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Episode Date: January 26, 2022

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If you go look on or if you go look on the internet right now, which you can't do because this podcast is coming out later than what we're recording it, you'll see that all the talk right now is about Boba Fett. And then right under that, it's about a Supreme Court justice retiring. So it's clear. Save for higher learning. It's clear that Twitter has their priorities. Exactly right.

All right. They're going to do a deep dive of the House of Arr will. Shout out to the House of Arr. They'll be doing a deep dive on the book of Boba Fitt chapter 5 on Friday. We'll be back from more Boba Fitt. Plus some fun stuff. We're going to come back with more Boba Fitt. Now on today's show, we're going to tell you what we thought of.

Oh, it's already starting. Look at here. It's already starting. I put a little joke in there. I put a little joke. The negativity. The negativity is already starting. What are you talking about?

This is the negativity. We hyped. I'm sure you are. The one true king has returned. Everybody's, no, no. The one true king has returned. No. No.

No. This is an episode. This is chapter five of the Book of Open Fed. In this write-up, Steve has, we'll let you know of what we thought about the season premiere of the Mandalorian. He's got that scratched through. And then he says it's actually the fifth episode of the book of Boba Fett.

I'm going to preserve the purity of the book of Boba Fett on this episode today. But before we do any of that, let's get into it. And let's run the spoiler warning. We're getting ready to talk about Mando. You're listening to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are coming. I'm telling you guys, it's not right. I'm just letting you know.

Save that shit, then. It's not right. It's not right. What you guys are doing. The other midnight boys are excited like me. Don't burst our bubble. I'm excited as well. It's very good episode.

Charles, can we please give the people the need to know on Book of Bobafet chapter five with the midnight manifest? Guys, I'm so excited. I'm so excited today. Armandau busting out the bando. The true king has returned. All right. Episode 5, the return of the Mandalorian, directed by Bryce Dallas Howard. You may know her as an actress, but also she directed two very good episodes of the Mandalorian,

Sanctuary and the heiress, written by this episode by John Favreau, the plot. Din Jajaran, our favorite Mandalorian returns. Mando arrives at a space butcher shop looking to collect on a bounty for Kaba buys. When Kaba doesn't come quietly, Mando easily disposed. batches Kaiba and his crew with his newly acquired Dark Sabre. But Mando sustains an injury to his leg from the Dark Saber due to his lack of skill with the weapon. Mando returns with the head of his bounty to his employer for information on where the armorer and his cover of Mandalorians the children of the watch are residing.

When Mando finds the armorer, he reveals how he won the Dark Saber from Moth Gideon. The armor tells Mando the saber was created by the Mandalorian Jedi, Tarr Visla 1000 years ago. The armorer then forces Mando to melt his Bescars spear down since Mandalorian steel is only meant for armor. When she asks Mando what he wants to turn it into, he requests she make it into a gift for Gros,

who he wants to check on to make sure he's safe. Then the armor tells Mando of the great curse of the Dark Sabre, the story of the Great Purge, and the destruction of their home world, Mandelor. The armor trains Mando how to use the Dark Saber, which the bounty hunter struggles to use as it gets heavier each time he swings it. Paz Vizla then demands a duel for Mando,

believing that since his ancestor constructed the Dark Sabre, it rightfully belongs to him. Mando beats Paws, but when he reveals that he's taken off his helmet, Mando is banished from his covert until he washes himself in the living waters beneath the minds of Mandoor, despite them all being destroyed.

Mando goes to Tatween to get a ship from Pellimoto and helps her reconstruct a Nabu N-1 Starfighter. Sannick asked for Mando's help in Boba's coming war with the Pikes, but Mandoz says he'll do it only after he checks on Grogu. And with that, guys, I want to get right to the episode because I'm so excited. You are all over yourself right there, Charles. You're just having so much fun.

You're reveling in it. Let's just get to, let's just talk about the thousand pound elephant in the room. This was obviously a fantastic episode of the book of Bobaugh. The best episode of the book of Boba Fett. I don't agree with that. I don't think that this was the best episode of the Book of Boba Fet. This was a great episode of the Book of Boba Fet. Wait, Steve, I don't even have to tell you.

I don't even have to tell you what you need to play right now. I don't think that this was the best episode of the Book of Boba Fett. The cap. Stop the cap on this app, bro. I think the best episode of Book of Boba Fett is Boba Fett when he became an official member of the Tuscan Raider family. I think that was the best episode. Look, I can. got to be honest with you. I don't think this was, I think this was really great. It was a great episode.

Now look, you guys, I see, see, this is what I'm here to do as the elder statesman of the Midnight's boys. This is what I'm here to do. I'm here to always keep you guys with your young buck hubris and your weird fanboy streaks on the rails. I'm here to keep this train on the tracks because the reality of the situation is this was a very good episode. I know what you got what to do you want to get on here right away and you want to use the fact that this was a great episode to discredit the show

that is the big of... Oh really? What did we discredit? Hold on, hold on for a second. So you mean to tell me that I'm not about to hear on this podcast with you three illustrious boys of midnight. I'm not about to hear on this podcast

that the best book of Boba Fett episode doesn't have Boba Fett in it. I mean, that's a fair. That's a fact. That's a fact. Like, he's not a fact. Like, he's not anything. See, see. So what does that mean? Go ahead. Get it off your chest, Charles. Say it. Say it. Man, the return of the Mandalorian. Let's be clear. This is the equivalent of Drake hopping on a struggle rapper's album. Like, just takes over the whole thing. See what I'm saying? Like, just like, this episode was like so pure. It was pure as Bescar armor. It had the feeling, the energy that I think we've all fallen in love with with the mandoling. Lori. And from the minute when he walks through the plastic gate of the butcher shop, I was like,

oh shit, we are here. And from then to the episode, for me, just did not stop in terms of setting the stakes of where Mando is right after the last season. I think this is kind of everything that

I really, really want from a Star Wars TV show. It had the emotion, the emotional arc of where Mando is now. He seems like he's in a very, very dark, distracted place after not being with Krogu for a while. He dispatches all of those guys in the butcher shop very violently. And you realize everything he's gone through with his sec, with his cover of Mandalorians and how much he's changed in his journey. So watching that happened, I was like, oh my gosh, this is actually like, this is why we all thought the

Mandalorian was the future of Star Wars because it handles stretching what we know about the universe while also making us care about the characters because this didn't have Grogu in it. It was just Mando for the bulk of the episode. And I think this was one of the most beautiful episodes of TV I've seen in a long time. Honestly, since the last season. Now, Van, please yell at me about being excited about this episode of the Book of Book of that. Not going to yell at you. this is what I'm going to say.

While many people will look at this episode of the book of Boba Fett and say, hey, the most obvious difference here is that Boba Fett isn't in it, and the Mandalorian is the Mandalorian, who is a character which we've already had two seasons worth of material on, not just one season, but two seasons worth of material on. So to compare them as far as that's concerned on a character that's a lot more fully formed to a character that we're still getting to know in terms of the real weight of it on television is number one not fair.

But also, there is a switch here on who's calling the shots behind the camera. I think if you watch this episode, the biggest difference isn't even the Mandalorian. The biggest difference to me is Bryce Dallas Howard. Because when you watch this, the pacing of this show, sort of the way the action is set up in this show, I think her direction in this, and this is not a slight at Robert Rodriguez or anybody else, who's been working on Boba Fett up to this point. I think the person behind the camera, I think some of the shots that were used here, the long shot that establishes the scope of the world

that the Mandalorian is in when he goes to deliver the bounty. I think there are a bunch of different things here that are done creatively by the director that, to me, gives this world a much, much bigger feel. And also, remember, we're already coming from what in Boba Fett has been a pared downfield. We haven't really been all over space. We haven't been in space that much.

I don't know if we've been in space at all. It was a show that was a little bit more intimate and we're comparing it to a show that in the Mandalorian was inherently different, right? So all I'm saying is for the people that are out there who really, there are other differences other than just the fact that Boba Fett isn't in this episode that makes it different from the other episodes

of the Book of Boba Fett that we've seen. And the moment that I'm watching it and I'm halfway through and I'm really enjoying it and I'm thinking to myself, this episode is going to, even though this is an episode of Book of Boba Fett, this might have been the worst episode for the Book of Boba Fett

because now the fans that are at this point looking for reasons not to enjoy the show or to harp on things or to criticize the show are going to say, okay, now all you have to do to get a great book of Boba Fett episode is to remove Boba Fett forward from it and give us the Mandalorian, and then we have our perfect show,

which I don't think is quite fair. I will say this. I agree that Bryce Dallas Howard just in terms of the way she shot the episode, the cinematography of this episode, the way it looks. And the pacing as well. And the pacing, all of that.

from a story structure is way more tighter because like to your to your point we've had two seasons to bake in the recipe of what a Mandalorian episode is and I think when you see just how it's shot even the action of it I'm like oh this is this is coming from a director this is coming from a team that understands how to do Mando and his story but what I will push back on you is that I think what I'm not even trying to compare this to Bobo I'm saying what I think is so successful about this episode is that it clearly sets up the stakes of who Mando is what he's capable of in a way that like sadly we've been a little bit wanting for Book of Boba Fett.

And what I mean by that is you've even said, we've joked, yo, how good of a fighter is Boba Fett? Within the first 15, 20 minutes of this episode, we understand how deadly of a bounty hunter Mando is, but how much further he has to go using the Dark Saber. Right there with just how bad he is at using it, I was just like, oh, this is where this character is now. He's just not O-P. He's not overly powered just because he has a Dark Saber. The Dark Sabor is actually illustrating something about his character, is that he's, he's divided. He's fighting against himself. He doesn't know if he can lead the Mandalorians, and he doesn't know with the way whether he can square that

with his love for Grogu. I was like, oh, that says so much about where he's been since season two within the first 15, 20 minutes of that episode. And that's why I actually loved it so much because I'm like, oh, they understand this character in a way that like has not been as easy for them to pin down on Boba Fett. I agree with that. The only thing I would say is in terms of the fight, this was the Mandalorian and his weakest in fights.

That fight, the first fight, he wins the fight, but this is very even-sided fight. that he leaves wounded because he hasn't know of the Dark Sabre. And then you see him failing to wield the dark saber is the reason why he, he beat the guy that challenged him, Visila, who challenged him for the, because neither one of them knew how to use it. And Mandel used that against him. So I'm not saying that necessarily that he's, him at his weakness.

I'm like, they scaled down the Mandalorian's prowess to fit him into the Boba Fed world here. Oh, I so disagree. I so disagree. Because, all right, let's, if we start from the beginning of the episode, That fight to me, do you remember when Tim Drake was introduced in the Batman comics? I do. Tim Drake essentially told Bruce Wayne, like, you need a Robin after Jason Todd dies because without a Robin, you get way too into yourself.

You're way too dark. You're way too violent. And I took that initial fight in the butcher shop as Mando. I don't remember him being like that vicious the last time he was with Grogu. I took that as like, oh, he doesn't know where to point his. anger. He's letting his emotion get the better of him in this fight. And that's represented by him burning himself with the Dark Saber. It keeps getting weighed down with each swing because he's fighting against himself, which is represented in the weapon. So I'm like, it's not that I think they're

pairing it down for this show. I just think that he does not know how to fight in this new way after letting Grogu in his heart and kind of changing so much as a character. That's what I took this took this part of the episode as. Not me. He doesn't know how to use the weapon. He gives the guy a clear ultimatum at the beginning. Like, look, we'll bring you in warm or cold. They fight against him.

The fights to the death, he has to kill them. He burns himself because he doesn't know what he's doing with the weapon. I will say that not having Grogu for the Mandalorian has thrown his rudder off, right? So he doesn't know exactly what his overall goal is, you know what I mean? Because if we look at the Mandalorian, and by the way, people are looking back very fondly on the Mandalorian because there's some time between it. I remember people criticizing the Mandalorian early on for not having a central narrative for being too, because like being too in the gun smoke way or whatever, there's a different

adventure every time. We just want to know what's going on with Baby Yoda, all of that. I think a lot of the stuff that came up between the, in season two, from the midseason on in season two has really reworked how a lot of people looked at even the Mandalorian when it was on. I think a lot of people forgot some of the criticisms that they had about, hey, like, we want to know what's going on with Grogo. We want to know what's going on here or there. It seems like there's a different, like we don't care about this. We don't care about him helping somebody on a new world. We don't care about him going here to do this. What we want to

see is what's going on with whatever, how he's going to get back to Grogo. And then in season two, I think a lot of those things they changed because it ended on such an enormous high and the season was so brilliant. So I think if we're being honest with ourselves, a lot of the criticisms that people have about Boba Fett, I don't think the Mandalorian was without those criticisms. I think they were a little bit more muted,

probably because we knew less about the character. This episode works because we know more about the character. Because we know more about the character, we don't have to get into this point to where we're learning something new every single time and we're not getting what we thought that we wanted. And so with BobaFet, every time, well, what BobaFet is supposed to be?

We think we know BobaFet. He's supposed to be this great fighter. Okay, well, he's not. Well, what does that mean? Like, he's supposed to be taking control of things. He doesn't seem to have control. Like, okay, well, what does that mean? And we're getting a little antsy and we're saying,

okay, this show isn't really delivering us what the Mandalorian was. And when you put it back in this, in this right here, if you look at it, this is another, they almost reset him in this episode. Finding a new ship. He's got a new weapon. He's no longer a Mandalorian.

There's more uncertainty around this character right now, even than there is for Boba Fett. But we accept it. We accept that fact. We accept all of that because we have more source material. So I knew, I knew that even as I was turning this off and it was so good. It was great.

I was like, I don't know if they should have done it. Rejoining Mando. Mando kicks ass in the butcher shop. He takes what he, what he's getting bounty-wise. Now, are there any questions you have about where we are in the whole Mandalorian lore?

Because he's there. He's talking to the armor maker. It seems as if of their guild, of their way, they are the last three. Where is the Mandalorian? in terms of all of the Mandalorians? Because there seems to be a situation now where there are different sex of the Mandalorians.

He's he doesn't have, he's admitted that he's taking his helmet off. It seems he's wayward and on the outside of where he wants to be. How do you feel like where are we? Let's say that this is a backdoor pilot for Caesar 3 of the Mandalorian. Where is the Mandalorian right now? I think this is the most interesting place that he is, or at least the most interesting place that I think he's going, is that he's a man divided between two houses, between two philosophies.

You have Bocatan and her Mandalorians on one side, and the armor says, you know, she thinks that Boketan and her people are responsible because she didn't win the Dark Sabre through ritual combat, that that's the reason that the curse happened. That's the reason that the empire destroyed Mandelor and all of that stuff happened. And you could tell, like, our... Mando, Dan, he does not, he's not totally with Bokitan and how they view things.

But when he meets the armor and he's rejoined children of the watch, it seems that he has gone through such an emotional journey. He takes off his helmet for Grogu, and he has such an attachment to him that he's at a place where he doesn't necessarily know if their religious views, their very, very hyper-focused views are right anymore. And the thing that I find so fascinating about this, it's almost a Games of Thronean type thing now, where he has this sword, he can lead these people,

but how will he lead them? Because he knows that he can't do it the way the children of the watch can. He can't do it the way Bokitan. So he has to figure out a new way to lead Mandelor. And if we know anything about Armando, he's not a born leader. It's something that at each turn, he's like, no, I'm not. I don't want this. Like, get it away from me.

I think that's the most interesting place to put the character. What about you? Where do you think he's at? I think he stands as the purity of the Mandalorian way. Because let's take the Jedi versus the Mandalorian because this is talked about during the duel scene, right? The fact that he said, look, I got to go back and give this to Grogu. She warns him, she says, look, the Jedi not into that detachment.

She goes like, well, she's on the subconscious, she's thinking there was just one Jedi who got so mad over his mom that he took a lightsaber and killed all these innocent people and we don't want that again. So don't try to get this boy attached because if something happens and you get a cold, let's say the Mandalorian comes down with COVID and then Grogu gets mad.

Younglings might have to die. Same people might have to die. Wait, really, really quick before you continue, do you think that when Mando reunites with Grogu he's going to have a little rat tail, like a gray hair rat tail? What would you do if you saw that? Do they do that for the Yodas? Do they have, do they get the rat tail?

You only get it when you're a pad. They don't have any hair though. Yeah, they have gray hair. Like Yoda has gray hair. Yoda has little, he's got, he's frizzy. I guess he's got some hair. It's going to be like when like black people don't have enough of a fro. So you really got to like pull that shit back.

So when we meet him, his forehead's going to be like two inches back. What if they take some Beijing and they do it? What if they take, hold of what if they take like Jim, Brown from the CBS football show. I don't know what this motherfucker is thinking. But my G, we can see you, dog. Like, you're on TV, my G.

We can see you. He had the Carlos Boozer. He had the Carlos Boozer. Like, we can see you, dog. I don't know, man. I know you like yourself in Beijing. I know sometimes you be like, yo, barber.

I've never in life. Lies, lies, lies. What are you talking about? I would never, I would be in here looking like George Jeff. before I put the Beijing one. I would never in life in any way, ever. They've never done that, ever, ever.

Would you rather go, Walt? Didn't look like a goddamn clown? Yes. But it would be cool if he had a Beijing little Paduan rat tail. So this is my thing. So if the Jedi over here, attachment sucks. Attachment's bad. We don't like attachment because we don't have control of our powers,

kill our own relatives, whatever. And then over here you have attachment is good. Loyalty is good. Loyalty is good. Attachment is good. Having something to fight for is good. Then it seems like to me, it seems like to me, on a natural offshoot of that, evolution of that is, okay, well, loyalty and attachment

is good, then who would you take your helmet off for? if loyalty attachment and being down with somebody is good right then that means sacrificing almost anything for them if that's truly good if that's purely and truly good that means what would you sacrifice for a person then what would you give up for them and would you give up for them the way would you give up for them the thing that gives you your edict if that's good if you found someone that you're attached to on that level, then what rules do you have that you're willing to break to form even more of a connection with that person, that individual, or doing something to save them?

So to me, it seems as if him taking off his helmet, maybe to him at some point to forge a connection with Grogu to Grogu is more Mandalorian than those Mandalorians might even realize that it is. If attachment is good, if loyalty is good, if connection is good. And that stands on the other side of what the Jedi are. And also, if the Jedi way was the way of the universe passed, right, if they were the highest form of order, if they were the highest form of security, if they were the highest form of like aspirational discipline in the universe, and that was what the Jedi believed, perhaps

the coming of the Mandalorian and like the way. his relationship with Grogu, perhaps that represents a higher form for the universe, a different way that you can be. You can still be incredibly lethal. You can still have discipline. But you can also do that through the bonds that you form with people. If that means taking off your helmet, then you take off your fucking helmet. If I could take that one step further, it also reminds me of the Last Jedi a bit where I think

Ryan Johnson, when he's making that movie, he was trying to really understand and contextualize what it means to be light versus dark, good versus evil, Jedi versus Sith. And I think it's so interesting that now you have the way versus Bocahattan, not the way. To me, Bocahattan is like classic Mandelor culture. And I think that Mando and Grogu potentially represent that gray area. Luke's journey in that, in the last Jedi,

was him thinking like, does the Gellar? Alexi really need the Jedi anymore? Does it need the force? Or can we democratize the force? Does everybody have it? And I think that's a journey that Mando's going to go through is like, what does it mean to be a foundling? To him, Grogu is a foundling.

He deserves some type of present. I don't know if it's armor. I don't know if it's a chain. But I think that does represent, he's just like maybe there's something in between a Mandalorian and a Jedi. That's a little bit gray. And potentially, that's why Grogu leaves Luke.

Yeah, maybe so. And maybe Grogu could be the next person who was both Mandalorian and Jedi to trace back to the origins of the darkness. Can we talk about what guesses? I want all the Midnight Boys to chime in on this. Are guesses to what the armorer created for Grogu? Because we see her drop these little chain links.

But I was just like, it's small enough to fit Grogu. What could it possibly be? At first I was like, is it a hilt for a lightsaber? That's what I thought it was. That's what I thought it was going to be, like a cool little lightsaber hill, but I don't know that that fits in that little Grogu shaped pouch.

Yeah. And it can't be armor. I don't think it can be armor because it's not big enough to hold a helmet. Is he icing his boy Grogu out with a 4PF chain? I was sad to see the Best Gar Spirrgo.

What do you guys think? Two chains, but he got him a few on. I think he's got some ice. You saw the links drop, right? So you got a little chain going on. We don't see your boy like, like Charles said,

dripped out with some best guard chains. Jomey, do you think Baby Yoda is 4PF? Oh, for show. Oh, yeah. So, come on now. Come on now.

You know the boy at Grogu. You know he win it. Respect the boy. Respect the kid. Steve, what do you think the gift for Grogu is? I have a little baby nephew and you always want to give him

something that they're at least going to grow into so he's probably going to get something that's a little big for him now, but like maybe in another 200 years, then he'll grow into it. God damn. 200 years. The only thing, the reason I will say before we go on,

the reason I don't think it's a lightsaber hill is because technically aren't Jedi supposed to build? Isn't that a right of passage for a lot of Jedi? They built down a lightsaber, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's definitely not a lightsaber hill. A lightsaber hill wouldn't, it wouldn't fit in that little thing. I mean, we've seen Grogu's hands.

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Because I knew that the ship would end up looking cool Because the OG Naboo Starfighters, they always look They always look cool. But I was thinking, I want to ask everybody this question. What kind of ship is better? Because like, what I was thinking when he gets in that ship, that's a cool ship to cruise around the galaxy in, But like his old ship, you could hang out in it, you could sleep in it.

There's no storage. No storage in this ship. You could store stuff in it. He had a hole. he had a whole like a weapons cachet in that ship and so I'm thinking

this is a little bit different way. It's sure it's faster and it's more nimble but don't you want a ship that you could put on autopilot maybe catch 20 winks in? I mean the thing that worried me

as somebody who's like watched like my nephews and nieces is I'm like how are you going to put Grogu in that little in that little glass thing? Last time we saw Grogu that man was the messiest eater

I've ever seen. He was eating on his little like teal cookies getting crumbs everywhere. Like how Grogu gonna like chill in this little ship? He needs a four door sedan and a baby seat.

He doesn't need a Ferrari. So what was I was going to ask? Do you think he's going to get another razor crest? It'll be bigger and then he'll be able to fit the Naboo fighter into it. Because there's no.

Okay. That's what I was thinking because I'm like there's no way he can travel with Grogu in this shit. for longer than like a day. Yeah, it can't be extended time. Well, I mean, he's not going to be able to travel for longer than the day.

Like, he's like to be in the pilot. And it's not even like he doesn't even have, he's in a fighter situation. He doesn't even have like a, he doesn't have like I can move around and take my shit off and go to the back and get a couple of coffee. He's going to have to get up and stretch his legs. But the difference is he doesn't have to dock to go light speed anymore. So he could technically travel probably far. Zero to 60 real fast in that thing.

Well, yeah, well, here's the thing, right? Like, you can go with that smaller Naboo ship, you can go from Tatooine to the Halo ring to see the Master Chief really quick. But at the same time, it doesn't allow for you to, like, carry stuff and hold stuff. So it's a trade-off. And I think, to Charles' point, we're going to get a bigger ship. Just from a practical standpoint, like, how are you going to turn in a bounty in that thing? Yeah, you're going to have somebody just ride.

That would be cool if you were dragging them behind you in the galaxy, though. Okay. That's what that's right. That's so brutal. You're bringing it. But think about it. But think about it, though. Think about it, though.

You could, that could be a part of the fact that you want to come in. You know what I'm saying? The fact is, look, you do whatever. Because, like, you don't want me to have to drag your dumbass behind in the galaxy. You know what I'm saying? Like, you don't want. But then you have to take everybody dead, though, right? That's what I'm saying.

Anybody alive. But also, all right, here's the thing. This might be a teaser for the next season of the Mandalorian. What I'm thinking is he has to go back to the minds of Mandalore. He has to be. bathe himself, baptize himself. Do we think that that's going, he's finally going to have a home base of like operations

where maybe they're like, all right, we can give him this little shit because so much of the action is going to be taking part on Mandelor. That could be, I was just wondering about the, when I saw the ship, I knew the ship and I knew how it would look and I knew it would look really,

and it does look really good, right? But I was just thinking, that's a different ship lifestyle. You know, that's like, that's going from a nine, that's going to a 9-11 with like you're coming from a big huge escalate where you can stop, hang out, let the back seat down, do whatever you're going to do, you know what I'm saying,

Selma Steve. And then at the same time, get back, and then get back on the road. So it's just totally different. Van, you know, I know you like the Nibu, the Nibu fighter. It's a midlife crisis ship. You know, you get rid of the kids. You get yourself a new whip. You only got one, one or two seats.

drive a Honda cross tour. I don't know what you're talking about. Are you saying that Mando is expressing some Jeff Bezos Kanye divorced vibes right now? Oh, I do want to say this one thing. He has a good note in here because the Phantom Menace. We don't normally talk about the best parts of Phantom Minutes, but the ships, there were best parts of Fat of Minutes? Of course there were.

Of course there were. I hate it when people say shit like that. So you mean to tell me you didn't like to do a little of Fates. Okay, that's fair. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. You know, y'all are some. Jomey.

J'all was talking. You know what? Y'all are cis. You're talking absolutes. Jome. Of course they're the, you didn't have the pod racing game on the N64?

Of course there are parts of the Phantom Men's. No. That arcade machine was great, by the way. It was fucking amazing. The pod racing game on the N64 was amazing. It's like an amazing game. Let's be very clear. You're absolutely right on Duel of the Fates,

but here's the thing, right? The fight between Quigon and Darth Maul and Obi-Wan, right? That is, like, so above what everything else in that movie is. Like, when I think about it, I don't even think about it

is from the Phantom Menace. I think about it as the duel of fates, right? Like, that's how much above the rest of that movie that scene is. That makes a lot of sense, Jeremy.

It was in the movie, and you don't think about it as having been in the movie. I'm not sure what to tell you, but I was great. But also, there was another fight scene. Remember the smaller fight scene just between Quigon and Darth Mall

in the... Pretty dope. that was dope. The pod race was awesome. Pod race was amazing, guys. Yeah, the pottery was, I mean, you guys look back like there's nothing good to take away from the movie. Of course, there was some good stuff.

What I will argue, the Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones type of, like, critical reevaluation, that agenda is coming. Like, when I was watching this episode, I'm just like, oh, I know what y'all are trying to do. Y'all are trying to make us, like, the kids be like, damn, these movies weren't as bad as we thought they were. I'm like, they had no parts. They had no parts, but they were exactly as bad as we thought they were.

So they're trying to pull a JuanaVision with the Age Ultron, where people go back and go like, hey man, that movie wasn't so bad. Don't disrespect Asia Ultron. Don't disrespect Age of Ultron. We ain't letting you get that off, Joey. This is one thing that's sad. This is very sad to me. I hate this that this happened.

The resistance goes through all of that stuff to win. They beat the empire and then they become the police. damn. Mando getting pulled over by the Republic Starfighters just to know that we went through all of this stuff, those same X-Wings had to be hidden and concealed. And now that they run the galaxy, they weren't around telling people what they can

and cannot do and how fast they have to go. I hate it. I hate it. I know Mando has a little bit of African-American in him because he gets his new whip. He works on it. He gets the big rims on it. He's taking it out for a cruise. minute, minute he goes a little too fast, police are like,

whoop, who, license of registration, please. Like, I was just a little like, the white X-wing fighter was like, wow. He was ready to run that man in. Yeah. Wow. I wonder, like, I really, I wish at that point that what they should have done in the show

was have Mando press a button and then start videotaping them both. He should have a button with a little room. Yeah, he should, could have a little button with the Republic symbol on there. And he should hit that button and then he records them both. Yeah, it's cool. You don't know, because that one guy,

the one dude let him off. But that other guy was like, yo, man, we're about to take your shit remote. Take him down there, have his body cam off. Next thing we know, Mando trending on social media, hashtag. Jesus Christ. Jeez.

It's how it happens, guys. It's like, we got to do better in the real world. Can I also say one of the cutest parts of the whole. thing was when Mando is building the ship with Peli and Pelley's just like yeah, I've had a relationship with the Jawa and the Java comes up and she's like, I'm

working on myself and I was just like, this is why Mandelorean is so funny. It's just so... Was the Jawa trying to get some ass right there? Yes. She's like, now I'm working on me right now. The Jawa, she says, I've had a relationship with the Jawa before. The Jawa was like, oh shit.

What's you trying to... What's you trying to say? You ain't saying shit. I got some ripple back in the hut, we can make this happen. No, she said, Pelly said they're furry and she starts licking her lips. I'm like, all right, nasty, free, get the fuck out of here. What's nasty about it? She likes a little fur. They got people walking around right now.

They're into that. They got furries right here. They got furries, bro. People are furies. The people are into it. Look at Steve for. Also, but also, you want to know why I know, like, Pelley's not worth, like, ain't shit. Because Mando, I know Mando's of the people. in the beginning of the episode, Mando is like, you know, communism, you know, down with the powers that be. He distributes the wealth to everyone. Then the job was come and, like, he throws them a little extra chain and she's just like, yo, they're going to start spoiling them.

I'm like, God damn, white woman. Like, he can't pay them for what their work is worth. Yeah, I don't know what kind of deal she has with them. But I think she likes living fat off the hall because if there's one thing, Jesus Christ, Jomey just took a swing. or something. It was out of a bottle. I thought that nigga Jomey was getting lit on the podcast. I'm like, hold on. It is green tea.

It is green tea. I'm like, I was like, I don't know. I was like, fuck. What do I was like, fuck. What do I say that Jomey hitting the sane eyes on the fucking podcast? I know he from Carson. So I'm like, I know they got niggas down. Like, Jomey just,

Jomey just went back. Like, it's 11 a.m. and Jomey is on the O.E. already. I'm like, fuck. What is that, bro? Blueberry and pomegranate green tea unsweetened from Trader Joe's. Get a glass, G.

Because you hit that shit. Jomi, you hit that shit like you was hitting the 40. I'm serious, bro. Yo, what time is in L.A.? It's 11 a.m. It's 11 a.m. Joni. Johnny hit that shit like he was hitting the 40.

I'm like, shit. That would be Jomey, too, by the way. Because most people, if you drink that green tea bottle, they're going to grip it by the middle. Jomi is so from that area that he's drinking it from the top. Like he's standing in front of the liquor store. Hey, hey, young blood, ain't your blood. Right in there, give me a pack of six to go with you, say the eyes I'm shaking. The sequence of them rebuilding the fighter, I thought was very amazing.

I really enjoyed them putting it back together. What, like, what specifically about that? you get into? What I like is like, you know, every single time I read about Star Wars and the making of it in George Lucas, George Lucas loves hot rods. That's why spaceships were so important to him and like that whole era of building cars from scratch. Like his father, he was saying like, he had to build, George Lucas had to build his first car as a teenager. So that's harkening back to like the beginnings of this world and seeing Mando have to put together the ship just the way he wants it perfectly. It had

that little spark of Star Wars that's so special that makes you feel like a kid looking at a new car. That's why I thought it was magical. Kind of like the meta aspect of like, yeah, George Lucas did love himself some cars. That's why in every single Star Wars movie you see a new

ship. What about it works for you? This is going to sound so stupid guys. I'm always interested in the fact that these guys are also mechanics. That always gets to me. I'm a guy of different skills. If my, if I, I can't build a new fucking Honda. You know what I mean? I like, if you, if I walk into a room with a bunch of scraps and stuff, but these guys back in,

in this Star Wars language a long time ago, the galaxy far, far away, they're also all mechanics. Like, Mando knows how to build a new ship. Like, he knows how to help. I just think that, I sometimes get in the fact that these people are, they're hand-to-hand combatants, their pilots, their mechanics. They have to, they just, I always love that aspect of the all around sort of Star Wars warrior.

I just love the fact that Mando's building his own shit. Oh, Steve's got something to say. I also think it's kind of interesting because if you scale it to like what the world is normally like, Han Solo just lives in his car and like fixes up his shitty van. Like that's probably the equivalent of like Mando just like, all right,

I got this hoopty that I'm just driving around the galaxy. And I got to fix it every once in a while because I can't buy a new one. Like, that's the equivalent of that to him. And you wonder, like, where's all the money go? All the money goes into the Millennium Falcon. So you get the money, right? Do you have, like, a little pad off the waterfall in some cool place somewhere where you can chill and hang out?

You know, like the spot that they were at in the beginning of this episode, that looked like a cool place to make a little homestead. That was beautiful. You know what I mean? The Ring City? The Ring City, yeah. Have a little 15th floor. apartment. Like, you know, you go up there, you take your Biskar off, you kick up your fucking feet. Yeah, but it's sunrise and sunset like every 30 minutes. Yeah. Yeah, that is kind of wet.

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I want to ask this to the boys. Boys, please don't screw up like last time. In relation to the rest of the season, is this the best episode of the Book of Boba Fett? Clear. It's so clear of the rest of the Book of Booba Fet. Here's the thing that I, to Van's point earlier, episode two is a great episode, right?

And it's probably like, again, like, I'm sorry, man. I'm really sorry. This episode was miles clear. Not even in the same galaxy. Of anything we've seen. Like not even same game galaxy. Come on. Anything we've seen from Boba Fett already.

It was just a great seeing Mando on screen again. And like they know that character so well. And Charles, you mentioned it, Bryce Dallas Howard. That scene where Mando's going up in the ship for the first time. And he like puts it in a high gear. I'm not going to hold you. Like I felt that Star Wars magic again. Like I really did.

I really did. It was really incredible. Yeah. It was really incredible. So we got, Jomey. I want to go to Selma, Steve. Was this the best episode of the Book of Bova Fett season so far? In the fact that of the episodes in the show,

The Book of Boba Fett, this is the best episode. But I also want to continue qualifying something that, to Van's further point, like we mentioned that his episode, his favorite episode is episode two, I believe, right? The Tribes of Tat's Wien. We talked about great direction. Of the ones that weren't directed by a one Robert Rodriguez, episode two was directed by Seth Green,

who had directed other television shows as well, great episode. We're kind of noticing the fact that other directors taking the helm away from Robert Rodriguez, we don't really know what credit to give or blame to place here with the things that we have with this story, but we're noticing more and more that the ones that aren't directed by Robert Rodriguez tend to be the ones that we like to more.

and it's further exacerbated by the fact that this doesn't even have Boba in it. And I kind of am like, ah, like, I'm kind of siding with Manabit. I'm like, does this hurt Boba in the long term in justifying the show's existence? Because we basically just got a Mandalorian episode. Before we get to your point with Van, am I hearing a Robert Rodriguez agenda from you, Steve? I mean, it's not an agenda. It's been laid bare pretty well here. Damn.

Damn. All right. Steve, I'm going to let the fans have at you. All I will say, in conclusion, why would the fans have at him for that? The fans have at us for everything. That's very true. Excuse me, I would carry on.

I thought it was self-explanatory. Charles, I stand corrected. Carry on. So, in conclusion, I think what this episode actually did prove to me, and I hate to say it, is that because the creators have such a firm hand, on who Mando is in this world, in like the greater Star Wars landscape,

I think it only highlighted the problems with Boba Fett right now as the character. I'm not even talking about the show. I'm talking about who they want the character to be. I know who Mando is. I know he's a bounty hunter. I know how good he's at fighting. I know he cares about. How he's been introduced has been pretty even throughout his whole existence.

I said it in the other episode. the problem with Boba Fett is like everything that Mando is and we know him to be is exactly who Boba Fett was in his small interactions that we had with him in the original trilogy. The silent but deadly type, everybody is afraid of him. You don't want to cross him. If you do have to cross him, you have to be on your game. And for the last, what, four episodes, we've all been questioning to ourselves, like,

is this the Boba Fett that we were introduced to? He doesn't seem like that much of a badass. He doesn't seem like he really knows what he's doing. it doesn't seem like people are that afraid of him. And I think it might have been a misstep to have basically a backdoor pilot for Mandalorian season three in your book of Boba Fett season.

Do I think that this is an amazing episode? Yes, I love it. I'm in love with this episode. But I do think that it undercuts them trying to build up Boba Fett's own story. Is that like, am I being super, super harsh? No. For Boba Fett, you have to take a character

that everyone thought they knew the character. And then you have to ground the character and give the character a narrative that's more than what we thought. He couldn't go around being a badass every single scene. I don't think he's been a bad enough ass and I've said that.

He couldn't go around being a badass every single scene, having even what Morrison has said, like I don't want him to speak too much and all of that. It's his show. He's going to have to talk. We're going to have to know more about him.

And so they had to break the character down and get it to its bare essence. Have they done that perfectly? Absolutely not. They haven't at all. But in building his world, you're building a reason for him to exist. You're building him a reason. I mean, we could have done a Boba Fed show where he goes out and captures

boundaries the whole time. And then some kind of way while capturing bounties, he uncover something or gets something that changes it. That was the Mandalorian. They already did it. And so for me, if you're going to make Boba Fett like a grounded, real three, dimensional character, like there's a part of this to where we're definitely going to have to give a little bit of time and a little bit of leeway for them to do that.

We're five episodes in and really only four, because only four have had Boba Fett in it. So after four episodes, I don't think that it's fair to demand that we have a complete understanding of the character. I really don't. I don't think four episodes in, we had a complete, like, understanding of Tony Soprano. I don't think we had a complete understanding of Walter White. I don't think we had a complete understanding of Nurse Jackie, which is a show that I loved.

It's a good show. Yeah, I don't think we had a complete understanding of any of those characters four episodes in. Now, I think if you're saying that based upon what we've already known about Mandalorian, they should be further along, further along, I agree with that. I would say the Mandalorian is a great Western. Like, it is a great Western Wolf and Cubs story. Great.

Right now, I would say Boba Fett is a better Western than a crime story. And you yourself told me that, yeah, the basis, the molecular of the story, it's about building a criminal empire. I'm like, well, if your story about building a criminal empire, that's the weakest part of your story, that's a huge issue. I'm not even just talking about, like, comparing the two. I'm just talking about just this show. If the whole hook of your show is building a galactic criminal empire and we're

both getting to the point where we're like, this is not even the best part of your show. That's a big issue. And that's the only thing I'm saying. I'm not saying it's a horrible show. I'm just saying that's hampering it. Yeah, I'm not going to disagree with you there. I think that in the next, where we have two more, I think in the next two more,

they would serve themselves well to go flashback light and really go longer and heavier. I don't know if we have runtimes on the next two episodes. Steve, if we do. We do not. I don't know if we have runtimes on the next two episodes. So it would be good to, to kind of know what the hell

would be going on. But we'll see. Really, really quick, I want to ask you about the ending of this episode. So Mando says that, he says, yes, I'm going to help Fennick. I'm going to help Boba to Fennick.

But I have to basically see Grogu first. Do we think that we're going to get Grogu in the next episode of the book of Boba Fett? Or do we think that the next episode, I mean the next season of the Mandalorian is going to be set in between this time of his journey to find Baby Yoda. If he goes

to find Grogu in the time that he decides to help the Mandalorian I would excuse me, the time that he decides to help Boba Fed. Like how long is that going to take? I mean, that's what I'm asking because he's like, I'm going to go, I have to go see Grogu first. I'm like, how

long is that going to take? We're going to have to see that. And I don't think they're going to devote a whole another episode to the Mandalay. or at least they shouldn't at this point. So is that just going to be an episode of the next season? Because then he's going to have to meet Luke. So I'm just kind of wondering how you do that.

I'll tell you what. If they think, the creators think, that setting us up for the big war with the Pike syndicate and with whomever else he's going to have to fight for the second season of Boba Fett is going to be enough for people, I think that at this point is going to be a tough sell. I think that, I mean, look, I'll just be honest with you. You're being honest, yeah. Yeah, I think that that's going to be a tough sell.

I think getting all your guns blazing and your guns in a row and your swords and your shit ready to have the big fight, I think there's going to at least have to be in episode six and seven some sort of gigantic schism, some sort of gigantic class, some sort of gigantic class, some sort of. of hardening of the lines there to where we see Boba Fett be able to be effective or in some sort of, there's going to have to be something hyper-compelling in these next two episodes. Now, I've loved to show, but to your point, devoid an entire episode to the Mandalorian where we were dying for more exposition into what was going on with Boba-Fet and where he's try to take over right now was an interesting plot choice for the creators of this.

And I'm super interested to see where they go in the next two episodes. I think they could do it in the next two episodes. My fear is that I am way more excited now to know about the Mandalorian's journey to go find Luke and Baby Yoda. And I'm just like, you should not show that in Boba Fett. Like, just give that to the Mandalorian because there's no way you are going to be able to land the ship. if we, if we, we just need to see Mando in the fight if we're going to end this season on a ring. Steve, Jomey, jump in here.

Well, I think that what will happen is Mando will be a, but yeah, like, he'll show up like toward the middle or the end of episode seven and save Boba Fett and have, you know, start, you know, kicking butt. Ultimately, I think that's where it needs to be

because like you guys said, like if I see Grogu next week, I don't even show me Bubba Fed again. Like, just, like, just keep me with Madhoku. We're going to see Grogu at some point. In this, in this season, in the next two episodes? Like, he's not going to join them until he finds Grogu. So, like...

Yeah, but, like, will we see that on screen? We don't know. Right? We don't know. I think next week is going to be, like, you know, getting the war ready, lining up the armies, getting people in check. Like, let's go. And then episode seven, hopefully, is 50 minutes of,

Pike versus Boba Fett's forces. That's the hope. But when will Mando come in? Again, like I think he'll come in late, episode seven, we won't see him. And I think part of season three of the Mandalorian will be him. Like that might be the whole season, the whole of season three is going to see Grogu and coming back and having to deal with it. Oh, I mean, I'm going to be honest. I was a little taken aback when he's like, I got to go see Grogoo because I was just like,

you just left this baby boy. Like are you guys, is the Mandalorian saying like, yeah, we kind of fake y'all out. We need Grogu in this TV show. Of course. Like, we, he's just going to go pick him up. Well, it was one of those little fun conversations after season two where everybody's like, well, season three not have Grogut. I was like, bro, the reason we're here is because we have Grogu.

They're not going to like, all right, man, we'll see. Nah, like, it's not, he's not going to college. He kind of is going to college. He kind of is going to college. Well, I mean, but yeah. Then why is Luke? Why is he going to leave Luke? is my question then.

Let's talk timeline here. When does, when does Kylo Rand fuck up Luke's whole Jedi training academy? That's not for a little while, right? That would be in about like 20 years. So like 20 years.

It's a while because Luke is very old during that flashback. Well, yeah, he was a lot older. His hair was super long and stuff. So then that has nothing to do with it. So how long does Grogu train with Skywalker then? Because if he's a,

if, if Grogu becomes a Padawan to Skywalker, then they're going to have to be together for like a long time. But do we even know that Grogu is Luke's Padawan? No. No. I don't even, to be honest, I don't even know how many how many Padawans Luke has at this point. Is Grogu one of the first? Is he the first?

Like, I don't actually know. Canonically. Well, I mean, if he is Luke's Padawan, then he has to be with Luke for a while. So there's not going to be a point, not really. really where Grogu's around and Luke's not around for a long time. Okay, but what if, you know, Mando pulls,

you know, like one of your parents pulls you out of school to go to Disneyland or something? I mean, that happens. Padoids go off and do their own missions and do their own things. I mean, you know, that, you know, that happens. I think Grogu's a little ways away from that. And remember, he's still a baby, you know, so it's like, it's,

you just wonder how much they can do with it. That brings us to the end of this highly contentious episode of the mid-backers. It was contentious on your side, man. I don't think it's contentious on anybody else's. Man was fighting for his life this episode. Here's the thing, like, we weren't even that bad. Like, I was just like, I really just enjoyed this episode. And he's like, I know what y'all about to say about Boba-Fa-Fa.

I know, I know, I know. I already knew. I actually was able to put a pin in it. I was able to put the pin in it. Because you know you fighting for your life, you losing this battle. What battle am I fighting? You're losing the battle. Wait, wait, wait, hold on.

We leave it all this in, by the way. If anything, I am trying to shield us for being hypercritical of things which our audience has already said they do not enjoy. So the reality is, Charles, like if anything, I'm trying to make sure that we establish. the differences between the Mandalorian and Boba Fett so we can talk about it and not just use this incredibly good episode of television to shit on the other stuff that came before. Is there, okay, before we leave, before we get out of here, is there anything else, fandom-wise, that you guys have on your mind? I'm going to give you this, this is a quick segment called On Your Mind.

It's fandom-wise on my mind. Yeah, there's anything else that's jumping out at you. Everyone, just let it flow. We didn't even prep for it. Let it flow. Anything fandom-wise, let it flow that's on your mind. Oh, guys, guys, guys, guys, I'm going to say here, I think Matt Reeves got me. I went, I went to the movie theater and I saw the new Batman trailer in a theater for the first time, like the most recent one, it might be special.

I was being a fucking negative Nancy, but it might be special. That shit looked amazing in a theater. Charles, you ready to sit down for three hours in a movie theater, my guy? I was like, honestly, like, Matt Reeves, this is sincerely signed your big. Hater. Actually, I love Planet of the Apes. Scratch that. But three-hour movie, tough. Okay? Tough. But, but the trailer's looking amazing. I think we might have a classic on our hands. So look, here's the thing. Here's the thing.

I was wrong about the bad man. We're having to walk it back a little bit. We're having to walk you back a little bit. No, no, no. You know what? We also need another segment where we call the crawfish. They just have to walk it back. Because crawfish, this is what we call it Louisiana. We call it crawfishing when you walk back on something. But like, the more I see about it, the more it fucking looks crazy.

That's what I'm saying. It's really good. Come on. Could it still be cheeks? It could be. It's not going to be. But I mean, like, you know who's going to be cheeks? We're going to be cheeks.

Because we're going to be sitting on our cheeks for three hours. Ass isn't going to hurt. We don't have cheeks anymore. Right. But it looks like they're doing some stuff in some ways. And I think I like the rhythm and the tone of what I can see from it. Like, it's, I don't know, it's different. It's going to be a big deal.

It's going to be a big huge deal. Even when I've been reading interviews with like Reeves and Padsden and all these people talking about the movie and the more they talk about it, I'm like, Matt might have been in his bag with this one. just how he's talking about constructing it like a puzzle in like all of the movies he's referencing like Chinatown and shit. I'm like, we might have something like really, really nice on our hand.

So like Matt Reeves do not disappoint. So I want to send out an apology. I think the Midnight Boys were hating just a little bit. Don't apologize yet. Just say that like, don't apologize. Like right now, just say you think you were wrong.

But don't apologize. I think I was wrong. I think I was a little harsh saying that like I'm bored of Batman. I am bored of Batman, but the movie theater trip made me be like, I'm going to be, my ass is going to be in the seat for three hours, and I'll be happy about it. Jami? I was going to hold on to this one, but since you asked, Star Trek Lower Decks got approved for season four,

and season three is coming in the summer. I, like, I'm not a big Star Trek fan at all. Like, I've seen the new movies, you know, the JJ Abrams ones, but none of the television shows. And so when this one dropped, I want to say 2020, I was like, oh, for sure, I'll check it out. Let's see what's going on. Star Trek Lower Decks is one of my favorite shows. It's on Paramount Plus right now. I know y'all ain't going on with the Paramount Plus.

If you like, if you like Rick and Morty, but like, like, set in like Star Trek, but it's also like not as crazy. But it's interesting and like the characters. It's just great television. Star Trek Lower Dex. You give them the fans hope, Joe. You give them the fans hope because they're always like, Star Trek Lower Dex. Like you like, it's fire.

Not going to feel bad because they're probably like, oh, they got to review the new season. Like now I kind of feel bad. Listen, you want, come to my Twitter every Thursday when it drops in summer 2020. And I got you all. I love that show. It's so good.

So I'm excited that I get to see it this year and again next year. So tap in if you haven't on Star Trek Lower Dex. Steve, you got anything? So look, hold on before we go to this. I just want to let Jomi know something. Jomi is my friend. What's going to know? And, you know, Jomey's going to be coming to my house this Sunday for the big

NFC championship, AFC championship weekend bash. I got to let you know something, Jemmy. Let's go on. I'm not watching that shit, bro. Look, you don't, listen. Hey, man. Van. I'm sorry.

Van. No, no, no. I just had this whole thing about the fans and shit. I'm not, like, I'm not watching that. Come on. I'm not watching that shit. It's cool. It's 20 episodes, Van.

You know what I'm saying? That's a lot. And by the way, almost everything Jomi tells you to watch. is fucking fire. I'm gonna be real with you. Jumby, I just don't have enough time. No, all right, that's a lie. That's a lie.

I don't know what you. I don't have enough time. No, no, not the time thing is a lie. Everything Jomey recommends is good is a lie. What are you talking about? What are my miss? If I say it, Steve, can you bleep out what I'm about to say?

Bleep it. Yeah, new shit is wild. Bro, stop. Whoa. Whoa. Shaky, bro. And that's why you had to bleep it. And because you know

they was going to finish you. You got to believe it, Steve. Look, I'm not going to be a man. It's a wild shaky. I don't know about that, right? I think they took some liberties, but in terms of getting in terms of getting back

to the characters that we love, that's what that show is doing. And so if that, if you don't want that, you're out of here. You're telling me that the season's not uneven. Be real, don't lie. I'm not saying it's perfect,

but I'm saying, and the goal was to bring the, and we haven't even seen, like, the best ones yet. We haven't even seen the best ones yet. Slow down. Bucco. Steve's going to have to bleep that. I want you guys to try to guess which show.

Because that's a lot. Okay. I am rewatching season one of Raised by Wolves because I'm the only person in the world that likes that show. Is the show good? Should I give the show? Midnight boy, should I give the show a chance or no? I think you should. I don't think you're going to fuck with it.

It's like when you watch something, but you're like, I get it. I get why people don't like this. Yeah. I like I think you should though, right? Yeah, but that don't mean shit now. I mean, like, you know what I mean? He's like really really is a fucking G. He's one of the best. But I don't know. I love Raised by Wolves though. And I'm excited about the second season. I'm also watching Expans. Hell yeah. Spancer is great. Oh, I might happen there. I was on Prime. I was on Prime.

It's wheel of time. So like right there, what I, what I watch the expand, they really, they're pushing hard for, they're pushing hard for wheel of time. Because whenever I watch the expanse, it's like, yo, you should watch Wheel of Time, but I'm not watching that shit. Oh, man. If you think that the Wheel of Time push was hard, just wait until Lord of the Rings comes out. Yeah. Oh, by the way, I finished Invincible. I read all three compendiums.

Where are you ready? I'm done. Bro. We're not ready for this show. bro. Like the rest of the show is just, it's going to be nuts. Whenever we get it in 2097 when they finished season two.

But like the rest of the show is going to be insane. If you haven't finished it, if you haven't check the comics out, do that because A, the show's going to take forever and B, the comic was really solid. Love to hear. Love to hear. All right, guys. That is a wrap. House of R. returns

with their deep dive on the book of Boba Fett. I'm sure it will be less contentious than what ours was today. shout out to Joe and Mal as always. Also, I know that you guys want more peacemaker coverage, and we are giving you more peacemaker coverage. On Monday, myself and Mal are going to catch you up on the mid-season episode of Peacemaker.

I'm loving the show. She is loving the show. We're all loving the show. The show has one of the woken moments by any white character I've ever seen before in my life on it. So, no, I'm really into Peacemaker. We're going to be talking about it more on my show. Monday that's going to be on Monday that you guys are going to get that.

The next Wednesday, the Midnight Boys will give our reactions to the next episode of the Book of Boba Fett. The next episode of the Book of Oba Fett, which we're told is going to be a standalone show for Hans Solo. What was he doing during this whole time? What was Han Solo doing this entire time? It's going to be a standalone Han Solo show. That would be so funny.

It would be so hilarious next week if in a first scene like, Donald Glover just pops up. And it's just like, it's just like the whole show is Donald Glover fucking nailing Landau. Like the whole show. Um, yes. But until then, at Ringerverse is on Facebook, IG, Twitter. And now on Reddit, R slash Ringerverse on Reddit, uh, join and send thoughts, questions, and ideas. Producer credits.

Our producer is Steve Almidjoy, the cut of us. silly Selbasactivus. Jomi, the explainer at dinner on is on socials. Hashtag free Jomi. Additional production from Arjuna, Ramgapal. Charles, take us out. Mando is back. The Midnight Boys love to bicker.

This is a special P-S-A to my man, Jomi. Stay off the liquor. I was really so good. Every single of us. Everybody was like, Like, you guys gotta watch the video on that. Yeah, but. Like, we're out of here.

We out of here. I was sad to see the best car spirit ago. What do you guys think? Okay. All right. I was away for Steve. You guys are not. You did not bring it today.

No, no. No. Oh, no. Okay. Oh, no, no. We're past that question. I had a bit. I had a bit.

I had to go first. No. Steve had to go first. Let Joey get his bit off. Let Joe get his bit off. No, no, no. Can I get my bit off? Stop being a crank today.

I'm not being a crank. We asked you guys. Stop being a crank. And I was waiting for Steve. Steve had to go first. Just because Boba's bitch made. Step up. And man.

And stop being a crank about it. I have no. Stop being a crank. I'm saying this. The show must go on. What's your bit? What's your bitch? What's your bitch?

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