The Ringer-Verse - The ‘Game of Thrones’ Draft | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: June 17, 2026

The Boys are back, and to prepare for the premiere of Season 3 of ‘House of the Dragon,’ they’re bringing you their ‘Game of Thrones’ Draft, featuring five categories: hero, villain, dragon, episode, and wild card. (0:00) Intro (14:13) ‘Game of Thrones’ Draft (1:21:56) Outro Hosts: Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Producers: Aleya Zenieris and Devon Baroldi Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell New 2k+ doorbells, coming to your front door The Ringer is committed to responsible trading. Please visit https://fanduel.com/predicts to learn more about the resources and helpline. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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on the socials. If you're following us on Ring of averse, Man that Boy's pod, House of Our Ever, you want your house of the dragon fix. This is where you're going to find it. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell fucking yeah. Yeah. Yeah, daddy. Charles, you don't want to get in on this? You don't want to... Get in on... Get in on the House of the Dragon fever. It's the fever of the dragon. No, these niggas had us fake laugh for hours, bro.

Why bring that up? Why bring that up? Why do I bring that up? He's the type of person who bring up old stuff, bro. We don't worry about that. We had Midnight Boys photos. Midnight Boys photo shoots today. Yeah. It was fantastic. It was photo.

It was class picture day here. Class picture. Honestly, yeah. Honestly, yeah. Everybody, we had our fits on, you know what I'm saying? I had an outfit change. You know, I just done on them a little bit. You know what I'm saying?

But we got out there. We took pictures. Shout out the woman who did our makeup. She revealed that she's a fire juggler. I was like, damn. A fire juggler. Yeah, I was like, you know, people got the... Nice.

She was lovely. I didn't get that far. We talked about musical things. the whole time I was in to make a chance. Of course. My lip went down. I walked into a glass door downstairs.

Reading on my phone. It's a great text thread to get. What were you reading at that point? I was reading David O. Yellowow's apology. Okay, great. Let's kick it off. Let's kick it off for real.

For a Nigerian show. And telling us that the slave accent was a Nigerian accent. Slow down. Slow down. He said that the slave accent is a slow down Nigerian accent and then when you put

it was a back clip. Shout to my man David Oyo-o. It was a back clip. So I was reading it and I crashed into the thing the guys downstairs didn't know what to say. They were like... I can't imagine. Was there just silence? Yeah. One of the dudes who looked at he was like, he's like, you can go ahead and laugh. I'll crash

right into the shit and hit my teeth and everything. But now it kind of went down. The makeup lady said, take some Advil because Advil will help reduce the swelling. I did not know that. Yeah. Yeah, man. Shout out,

shout out Abby, man. She was locked in. We're on YouTube, like, comment, subscribe, share. You can watch

every Midnight Boys and House of our episode on YouTube. com backslash at ring reverse and also on spot to five. Spotify.

Guess what? I will tell you guys something now is very special. I've begun to use Spotify. Oh. Yeah. We're on title.

Right? It's on title. Wow. I don't actually even know how to work Apple Music. That's how loyal I was the title. But I'm still on title.

Tidal is still my shit. But, I've been listening to music on Spotify. Spotify is a great platform for music listening. How do you like it? I like it. I like it. Well company man here.

And that call came in. They like, hey, yo. That's not what happened. Okay. I'll tell you guys this, though,

like, it is difficult using a musical algorithm that doesn't know you yet. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You got a thumbs up things. You got a thumbs down things.

I got to go through a little, because it's fucking, it's telling me I should listen to tape. I don't use the algorithm. Like, I'm never. Like, they're like, you should listen to this music. Oh, I listen to all this.

They generate playlists, right? You have your daily, my music tastes have more or less. I'm not, I'm not. I'm not. What do you mean? Like, your daily mix? It's like, for example, they give me two chains radio because they know I love me some two chains.

And so it would be songs that have, like, either two chains songs or two chains feature. That's how I know, like, you know, like, yo, Jomi Young, you. Let me tell you what title is on right now. Title, my mix number one. This is what they have on here right now. My mix number one.

It's the new mix for today. Right. The weather. Nipsey Hustle. Stay Fly, 36 Mafia. Let them know T.I. Callie is active to dog pound. Juice, Yogadi. Late nights, early mornings, Nipsey Hustle. This D.

T. Fly. An amazing fucking song. I love it. Gizi. How much Nipsey are you listening to you usually? I love Nipsey. Really? I love Nip. I love Nip. To me, to me, personally, the weather,

that song, Nip's first verse on the weather. me is a blissfully brilliant treatise in what it's like to overcome and get to where you are. It's just the theme of the song. Okay. When it rains, it starts pouring, but we made the weather change for us. Oh, my God, that nigger was,

that's my dime, rest of peace of my nitty. But anyway, all of this stuff, look, I'll pay for it, Soldier Slim. They're right into juvenile. Back that ass up. Ali Boumayet, the game, 400 degrees, juvenile, like all it is, it knows me. Title knows me.

Just listen to your music. Just listen to the same stuff. Eventually, it'll all come to get it. I just song Up by Love Ran to get on here. I never listened to that record before. That beat the piece of pussy up song. I don't like that song. I never liked that song.

You should go crazy in the club. I'm about to say. You go crazy in the club. Dom Kennedy platinum Chanel. All right. Don Kennedy. Now, let's get to the show. Y'all don't fuck is.

You don't like Don't, you don't like Dom. Yeah. Y'all don't be on a house like that. What? What? To me, the only niggas that don't like Dom Kennedy or niggas that don't get no girls. I swear to God.

That's a wild assessment. Clip this, clip this, clip this, clip this out. If you don't like Dom Kennedy, people say that about Drake, right? Maidenless behavior. People say that about Drake. Oh, my goodness. If you don't like Dom Kennedy.

You don't get no hose. You don't really get holes like that. Seriously, I really truly believe that. Like, that Dom Kennedy song is still calling? If you ain't never been in that situation before, if you ain't never been in that. Talking about real stuff. What was that?

You don't like Dom. My type of parties. Still collecting. Got it all. Yeah. He had that one. Your friend got a nice face. You got a nice face.

Your friend got a nice body. They just want to have fun. This is my type of party. He had the yellow album. I'll give him the yellow album. That's life. After that. Nah,

yeah, tough. God, man. Because I remember I was at USC this summer program. And my boy was like, yo, man, you got to listen to this Dom Cavity,

man. I was like, all right, sure, it wasn't my type of music. But to your point, everybody was wooded. Everybody was into it. The girls like Dom. After that. It's music for, it is. But that was 2012.

Whatever, bro. You putting that on in 2026? Whatever. All I'm saying, well, it's different now, right? But what I'm saying is, we were about the party in 2012. You know, I'm the same shit when I'm this age, you know, I'm the same shit. But what I'm saying is during the time of, you know, being outside. It's like, Dom, dumb is a situation.

It's a thing. See, I think the difference because I wasn't outside like that in 2012. I was still in high school. Who is y'all artists that y'all? Because, you're not about to act like Nip is, Nip makes a brilliant rap music. Oh, no. I'm not saying anything. You'll get dealt with here.

Right. But Dom, who is your guy? You know who your guy is? Who? And this makes a lot of sense. I've heard you say this before. Dom is like, my guy, your guy is Bryson Tiller. That's your guy.

And that makes sense. Right. That makes sense. Like, that makes sense. This is what happens when I think about you. Because you are, you are an eloof. Emo. Emo.

Ho's stealing. Like, that's what you like to do. Jesus. God. Stealing. Stealing niggers girls. God. Like, that's what you are.

That's Bryson Tiller. Nah, now the older age, now it's currency. I'll put on some currency. Oh, currency. Great. Racing stripes by currency? Good morning. Currency.

and Dom Kennedy's on that song as well. Okay? Currency and Dom Kennedy. Racing Stripes. Amazing record. Steve, who is yours? Willie Nelson. Willie, yeah.

I'm on Bob Dylan lately. You don't listen to the boss? No Springsteen? Not really. Wow. Who's your favorite white boy, Steve? Favorite white, like all-time white boy? Who's your favorite white boy?

In music? Um, yeah, just, overall, who is a white boy's favorite white boy? Michael McDonald probably That's a pretty That's a pretty good white boy We've had this conversation on here before

But Eminem used to be my guy Eminem was your favorite white man Eminem used to be my favorite white guy Yeah man To the point where Marshall Matherer LP2 came out I was like this is heat This is good music

But that was 24 That was 2014 This makes a lot of sense That was 2014 This makes a lot of sense And that was the last time He ever put pen to paper And it works

Right yeah I'm fucked with Paul Wall Bra Paul Wall's great Hall is still great. That's a good one. That's good. You know, Eminem is a good,

it's a good white boy to like, but if he's your favorite white boy, it's probably problematic. Yeah. Because he's a troublemaker. I mean, this is, well, I mean, this is like, so, now Mac was already coming up,

but I wasn't listening to Mac. Not until, like, 20. No, I got into Mac 2013, but it wasn't really until, like, 2017 that, like, I really locked in. No rapper could ever be. being my favorite white boy. Well, true.

That's fair. Because you got, it's too much overlap, right? Yeah. But actors. Actors. Robert Donnie Jr. is my favorite boy for a long time.

I mean, he still is my favorite white boy. He's like, cool guy. You know who's the new white boy where I'm like, damn white boy, you killing him? Robert Patton's the...

Oh, yeah. All types of sauce. All types of sauce. I tell you what, if, because Ryan Gosling was there for me for a long time too, right? If Robert Pattinson lets us down,

then we find bad old tweets, I'm done with him forever. I don't know. I can't imagine. How do you feel about him doing that Chris Hanson movie? What Chris Hanson movie? Robert Pattinson's playing Chris Hanson in a To Catch a Predator movie. I can't fucking wait to be nuts.

He's got the voice down. It's awesome. What's the thing, Robert Patterson going to do? Robert Pattinson played Chris Hanson is amazing. We got to get into the show, but I'll tell you y'all something. I'll tell you something, for real. Now, obviously there's some ethical concerns with To Catch a Predator. Of course.

That is what the movie is about. Yes. And there was a whole very notorious situation that happened. The reason why it's not on the air anymore. But let me tell you something. If you ever catch yourself on the Saturday night. You used to talk about this on a month. And you watch one to catch a predator,

to catch a predator, Georgia, to catch a predator, Long Beach, to catch a predator. One dude walked in and he was doing this thing. Chris Hansen walked out and he went, my life is over. And I was like, yeah, dog, you fucking feel. Yeah, it is. Like, you're done.

And I'm like, it is, it is, it is, there are, I don't know, this should not be entertaining. This is dystopian for this to be entertaining. But like, it, Chris Hansen will walk in, like, have a seat. So what are you doing here? I'm like, why don't you run? Well, the cops already surrounded a joint legs. A lot of them don't notice. And it would be so funny, guys would be like, so can I leave?

And they'd be like, yeah. So if I walk out of here, the police out there, Chris Hansen would be like, yep, I don't know. gangster you tell me right now I can walk out of here and I can leave and nobody's here Chris has to be like I don't know you can leave any time you want you can walk out you're looking around yeah that's Robert Pattinson's next move okay what is that what is that I think it's in like September it's gonna be before dude he's got he's at a hell of a year we covering that what in one word is that or real house a little bit of a band of his that I don't know we cover

in that. I love that. His fans all right. F-A-Ns. Oh, my, get out of here. Programme! My gosh! Okay, next week, the House of Art continues there, Nolan Summer, with the Dark Night Rises featuring Eric Boss. On Sunday, check for the return of Talk to Thrones.

Talk to Thrones is back. It's Dragon season. Dragon time. It's two years ago the last time we got the dragons, right? Yes, sir. On Monday, the Midnight Boys give their instant reactions to season three, the premiere, House of the Dragon. And, you guys,

in order to prepare for the House of the Dragon, we got something playing. Chuck. Guys, we are so excited for new dragons that we are doing finally, the Game of Thrones draft. Our categories today are hero, villain, dragon, episode wildcard. As with every draft, we're going in snake order. So can someone in the back please tell us who was going first, second, third, and fourth.

All right, today we are doing Jomey and then Charles and then Van and then Steve. Nice. Right. All right. Jome Skittle to Spittle. Where are you going? Because I'm very interesting. Before, before we were talking about who is the number one overall pick. I think there's a clear number one overall pick. I think y'all have some whole ass things if y'all don't do it right? Is it like a, I mean, it's, I have a, there's a person in mind. I don't know if my thing is, oh, I won't, I can't get the episode and the person if I'm going first. So I might as well go with, now there's a lot of good episodes.

I'm gonna go with the person, hero. I'm gonna go with my personal goat, number one overall. Going with John Snow. Of course. Interesting. You think John Snow is the,

he's the first round. Once we get through the first round, we'll talk about who we feel like is number one. Tell us about your experiences with John Snow. Why do you like him? So I love John Snow because even though John Snow was, was an idiot in many cases,

he was always right in the sense of guys, this throne stuff really don't matter. We got bigger fish to fry up top at the wall. And he would tell that to everybody he listened to. And they would be like, shut up, John. You don't know what you're talking about. You're a dummy because you made one mistake here, one mistake there. But ultimately, when it all came to fruition, he was like, he was the last one standing

like, yeah, guys, I told y'all this was going to happen. But nobody won't listen to me because I'm bastard or whatever and which in which. I really like I mean I told the story a bunch of times But I like main the first time I watched the series I watched the first seven seasons in a week Because that's all I had on the free trial And so I spent I was broke then So I spent like I watched one season a day of Gamer Thrones

Like I mainlined it right into my veins And by the end of it I was like yo this John Snow guy man He's going crazy I will say I did like in my first viewing Like that first season or two Because I did not read the book so I was like, man, fuck John Snow. I'm like, I'm like, fuck this fucking dog.

Because he was always complaining. Always complain. Always had so. He was so emo, but I didn't realize what was coming. I was like, damn. But because also I'm dumb now. Going back to like the first episode, because I knew nothing about this world,

I can't be like, damn, why they treat him like Charlie Brown? He was like Meg off family guy. I'm like, why does everybody? I hate this motherfucker so much. Hey, man, listen, man, you're big part of our family. We will have to send you to the wall and take vows. And you can never see us again. And you have to, like, I was the same way.

I'm like, yo, look at this dude. What do he, what do he do? I think that you like him also because just like you, he has an addiction to wild white women. Okay. Remember that whole situation? Man, you get rest in peace, man. Got done dirty, bro.

He just shot him on an arrow a bunch of times. But that whole little scenario, where they were together. Yeah. And being together was one of the best times in Game of Thrones lore history.

It was like, just them being together, him, you know nothing, John Sloat and him getting in where they got in a hot tub together and stuff like that. Hot tub, wasn't it a spring?

Spring? Spring, yeah. They're not jukuzas, no jets. But also in the beginning, once again, because I did not know

a lot about this world where you went to the Knights Watch. It was so funny because I'm like, damn, not only did your family hate you? But now they want to get them fucking out of here. Family hated him because he wasn't really one of them.

Catherine Stark was a terrible mom towards him. And the Knights Watch hated him because he was too good. Yeah. Too much of a Stark for the Knights Watch and too much of a bastard for the Stars. This man had no country. He was kind of like how the Knicks looked at Wembe. They like, you fuck. Hey, really?

What? Let him cook. Let him cook. Let him cook. Let him cook. Guys, you know, here's the thing. Shout out for Knicks. Fuck it.

Wemby, you know they got the whole clips, he's just like, yeah, the Knicks play a brand of niggerball. He's like, he didn't say that. He didn't, wait, we're talking about something like. He's like, what? He didn't say that. Oh, he didn't say that.

He did not say that. I want that to be very clear. I thought exactly what you said. Oh, dog. You know exactly? You don't know what's funny. You know what's funny? Hold on, hold on.

Wait, wait, wait, right, I got to say this. I got to say to that women. It's funny. that Wimby, you know, basically does the wrong thing all the time now, but he does have the right politics. All of these other niggas went to Trump and like all of this stuff like that. You got the right ass. But we got the right shit, but we still fucking, it's still not good enough.

Like, do a-nationalism, baby? I could believe that Wimby would say something like that. No, because you're saying, especially the week leading up to it. I'm like, dog, I don't want to hear about how this French motherfucker is sitting at the botanical garden drawing pigeons. Yeah, it's freedom fries. Yeah, it's tough. But like I would say, you know,

John Snow had all the intangibles He was fucking good with the sword He was a pretty boy The Knights watch was looking at him Like get this motherfucker out of you And what did he do? He came out on top He was like he became the leader

They tried to kill him Because he was said They was like I mean they did I mean they did They tried But then The watch is end

Boom boom All right Came back My watch is ended Chuck is up My God This is tough This is tough

important than John Snow in the beginning in setting the tone for the series and it would not work. Interesting. If you did, if this person was not so magnetic in the beginning in Hero, I'm going with Tyrion. I think Tyrion in the, yeah, especially in the early seasons. He was a. It was like, it was like there was something so magnetic about the portrayal and really just grounding what would become such a fantastical series. Yeah. something that felt very Shakespearean, very West Wing, intrigue, this and that.

I just, I know as the seasons went on, they fucking forgot how to write the character. Yeah. But in the beginning, to me, that was where the show really. I'm going to, I'm pretty sure this character will go soon. So I'm going to wait to X equation. But there's like, to your point, there's some significant falloff. Yes. For a lot of these characters.

And three in particular, that just like from seasons one through four to season seven and eight, you're looking like these are completely different characters. But I want to, I want to just hold off on that for a second. So there was also, I forget what this, because this, when I was watching Game of Thrones,

I was like, I remember I was on Vox and all these other sites. The fucking wiki's breaking it down. Ringer. What a great website. Would you guys have rather them went with the all three? Like, they were like,

Tyrion is basically going to be half Lannister, and he's going to get one of the dragons. Dan is going to get one of the dragons. And John's going to get one of it. That was one of the big. theories that I was reading. That's kind of, that's kind of, cookey. Yeah, but like,

that's the thing. We were thinking about everything. No, you know, like, we were theorizing everything. I think around the time where it was like, the books obviously weren't finished. And this was probably around like season three where people were just like, ooh, who's going to get the other two dragons? Because everybody was like, maybe Tyrion's a Lannister. That did not happen. No.

All right. My turn. I'm going for what I would have thought would have been the Ironclad first pick, which tells me that you guys aren't going to agree and no one listening is going to agree. I'm going an episode and I'm taking a red wedding.

Yeah, Rinsa Casper. That's what I was about. Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, I think that this is one of the most

important television episodes of all times. Yeah, 21st century, all time. 21st century, all time. Like, there used to be rules about which characters

would stay and which characters would go. And there was a time and we knew which characters were getting killed off of the show because of the business of the show. The show, hey, this person didn't, the killing of a character almost was secondary. It was almost something that you watched

to fill in the narrative that you got through, like, the trains or the online talk. This person didn't come back for this. This person asked off the show, like, Lisa Monet got in trouble, and so, like, there's no more Denise and all of that stuff. But, like, to watch a show, and then, you know, obviously it happened

happened in the wire, but like to watch a show and then to watch staple characters. Remember, I didn't read the books. Yeah. Get killed in that brutal and final away. Completely set the entire time. Because the thing, the show had done such a good job at this point where it's like, there was like, dog, Rob is killing him. Look at him.

He can't. Eat him in. No, Rob. He's the fucking man. And I remember watching the Red Wedding. And I was like, because the genius of. that episode is that like you're going through

the whole season and if you haven't read the books the Ned Stark death they do it once and you're like you can't that's like the craziest thing you can't do that that's like Tony Sopranos and then for them to do it again during the red wedding you're like oh this is the show then his whole family

get the fucking stars out of here what I will say I've never been that mad with a TV show then at the end when like they put like robbing them on the horses and put their dire wolf heads on them I was crazy it really is a post

like there's a pre and post red wedding pop culture world because that really like cemented the show was like a worldwide phenomenon that everybody needed to see because like a show never dared do what that did. All right so I'll go with our hero

for smack around. Yeah. So, yeah, the main hitters are gone mainly, but like, I, I, I, I'll, for hero? No, we still got, that's, that's probably the deepest, man. My, my, my, yeah. Hero's the, your most value category. I know. I, I want to go with, with an arc that I genuinely loved, and it was Aria.

Arias Stark. Okay, that's a great pick. Yeah, great piece for here. I think, I think, Ariah and Terry and R both could have been to. Aria is a fascinating, to know that she is this young, and this is like, Almost to the entirety of the show, she probably had the least tarnished when it came to how the show ended

because I liked that ending for Aria a bit more than anybody else's. But no, her character growth was incredible. And by the end of that third season, I was like, this might be some of the best like character growth that I've seen from a young character ever. It's great.

Phenomenal. Remember in the center of Assassin School? Assassin School. Man. Amazing. One of the more brilliant sequences remember when she was running and the lady goes, I help you. And she stabbed her and it turned out to be the girl. Yeah.

That was fucking crazy, bro. Awesome. Then she goes back to the lady who was, like the actress lady? The actress lady. The actress lady. They're all actresses. The actress lady who took care of Aria. Remember her?

That's not the fuck. She was a fucking actress in the stage show or whatever. And she took care of Aria. She played Circy Lannister in a show. nurse Aria back and she's talked about the fact that like, you don't remember this? I do. I know what you're talking about? I know what you're talking about. That's talking about a specific lady who's an actress. I'm like,

Doug, there's so many actresses in the show. I don't know. But I know what you're talking about. It's season six. In retrospect, yeah. Should Aria have killed the Night King? I mean, probably. No, not really, but. Definitely not. No, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, like, if it was not

Aria, who do you feel like it made more sense? I mean, John. John, obviously. Yeah, but all of Game of Game of Thrones is about subverting the expectation. I think that's... The entire series is like, it's got to be John. He's the Luke Skywalker.

It's got to be John. Like, in the moment when Ariah killed him, everybody was like loving it and it was amazing to see. But I think that might have been the moment when Game of Thrones got a little high on its own supply as far as subverting what it should be doing. Yeah. Because like, again, it's getting a little crazy at the end. But no, like, does it diminish the death of the night king?

by her killing him? No, because the Nike didn't do much. That's also true. Because that's why it was cheap. It wasn't the fact that who killed him. Mad, cash money, shit. Yeah.

And didn't. I remember what the All Sizzle no state. What's the name of the dragon when he turned the dragon? I was like, oh, it's about to get fucking lit. And then no. Hold on, but then he burns down the wall.

And you kind of like, hey, man, she's a baby to get pregnant. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He did his one thing, but that was it. See who's next. I'm going to take villain. And I'm going to take Amon Targaryen.

Okay. Yeah. Oh, you. Coniving, incredibly performed. That's not who I would have went with, but. It's got to be. It's not a Jordy. I don't think it's Jordy.

I like him. For villainy for that. That's definitely a Jordan. But here's the thing, though. You know what I'm saying why it's not a Jordy. Let me tell you why it's not a Jordy. The funny thing about a Jordy is, There could only ever have been one Jordi.

That's fair. Because the Jordy pick still remains the most controversial pick in ring or draft history. It might have been that. Yeah. I don't know that this was a jury. I think it's not a great pick, but I don't think it's a Jordy. Okay. I just liked Amon.

I like Damon. I like Amon. I like Amon as a villain. I'm going to reach on a villain. Sure. But I'm going to take a villain. Just because I want to have this guy. I'm going to take Taiwan-Lannis.

Oh, okay. He was used in my list. Yeah. Like, I'm going to take. This guy, man. I'm going to take villain. I'm going to take Tywin Lannister. Damn it.

Like this, I, this is the guy. Yeah, man. This is the throne of the Game of Thrones world. I love Tywin. I love Tywin. I love Tywin. Now look, here's the only thing that might curse me with the people is that Tywin Lannister is not in a ton of the Game of Thrones show.

He's very, very, very signitarily played by Charles Dance, right? Not in a ton of the show, right? There are other people who do more sadistic stuff. There are even times where Lannister comes off as slightly likable. I don't even say slightly. There's like moments where you're like, like when Aria is the cup bearer. Yep. And they're doing the thing.

He's like, I like you, girl, but be careful now. Be careful. Be careful. Be careful. Like there's like a sense of like paternity that he doesn't give, does not give to, like, does not care about, what's his name, Tyrion, that he gives to Aririan. that he gives to already that moment, you're like, hey, man, I can kind of see why Jamie looks up to him. But like...

But even when he's talking to Turing, he goes, oh, he's talking to, I don't want to say who he's talking to because that might be a draft pick. But anyway, I can't... This isn't happens to the small console. There's too many draft picks out there. I don't want to talk about it. But, like, he is sometimes wise.

Yes. And when villains are wise, it sometimes throws you off and it seems like a virtue. And so he is kind of wise. from time of time, like he knows stuff. But man, this motherfucker is a bad motherfucker. Everything that has gone on and happened, it's all

because of them. Yeah. It's all because of him. He is the one that really weighs to the last minute, gets involved in these wars. Has these people killed? Killed, like flooded a hole, but like him, he is the real big brain behind

all of the stuff that was happening, particularly with the political machinations of Westrose, which is why I've chosen. Everything else is fruit off of history. But I could see people saying, oh, there are worse villains at Game of Thrones. Obviously, there are a couple that are really, really fucking terrible for the stuff that they do in the show. No, but I think that's a smart pick, though. I will

stay in villain land and I'm picking Danny. No, no, no, it says. Who's who picked? Oh, you picked first. In villain, I'm picking Danny. She got to be. Okay, so that's interesting. Controversial. Right. Is that, I'm not saying you can't do it. This is a flex pick, technically.

I'm not saying you can't. Well, because you got to think about it. She was a, she was a hero. She was here for a while and then she wasn't. Until the last two episodes. Yeah, so was Anakin. You know? That's fair. That's very fair.

So was Anakin. I'm not mad at that. They're going to be mad at you. No. Danny people, nah, the Danny people hate. Oh my gosh.

She committed genocide. That is a villain. I'm sorry. Yeah. No, yeah. She burned down all of Kings Landing. Right.

She dropped an Italian bond on the head. She killed Aaron Rogers, dog. That's crazy. So here's the thing. And I mentioned it. earlier. When you talk about John, you talk about Tyrion, talk about Danny. Who fell off harder from

like the first couple seasons to the end of the show? Because those were like, not like our main characters, but the characters we follow throughout the world. Then you get to season 7 to 80, kind of like, all right, man. Tyrion fell off the worst because similar to his father, Tywin, he was the character

that was the smartest in the room and that's what gave him the power. And they just lost that fucking plot, but Danny is a close second. She is a villain to me. She is the end game of the series. They just did not set it up well, like, at all.

It was so fucking rushed. So here's the thing. I think the turn is rushed, but they spent six seasons going Targaryans, you know, 50-50. They could be cool. They could be crazy. No, no, no. They set it up in little ways.

They see it. But by the end of it, I'm like the turn one. Yeah, they give you a little bit. And then at the end, they're like, boom, here it is, quick. Like, which doesn't, it doesn't work. No. It doesn't work. You need, like, a couple more, maybe, like, another season or at least, like,

three four more episodes for her to, like, sit in Dragonstone, just be mad at the killed Massande and just kind of, like, slowly but surely you see her lose her faculties, lose her machinations. Yeah. And then, boom, set off on Kings Landing. Then I'd be like, ah, I could see why they would, I could see how she would get there. But for her to wake up a morning and go, hey, you know what? I'm going to burn it all down after, like, I'm not going to,

I'm not going to reinvent the wheel. I'm going to break the wheel. All that stuff. Freeing the slaves. I'm not going to rule like everybody else. And then one day she wakes up. She's like, actually, forget all that.

I'm going to just burn it all down. It's not, it doesn't really flush. Does that make a good villain now? I wonder. I mean, it is a villain turn. It is a big villain.

But here, I think she is, at least on screen, the most consequential villain that we have seen thus far because the destruction that she wrots on the kingdom. I mean, yes, she's got the highest body count for sure.

He's second only to the Knight King if we're being real. Yeah, yeah. Even the night, well, got me sick people draft them. I hear all the arguments. You could have gone hero or villain with her. Yeah, right. You really could have. She's a villain for 96% of the show, but when she turns.

And you mean a hero for 96% of the show? She's a hero for 96% of the show. And not just a hero, but like almost like morally, unimpeachable hero. She's like walking around. She's like Harriet Tubman mixed with John Brown for like a lot of the show.

And then she just fucking flips it and burns children. Yeah. Dog, the shot of Aria just being like, damn! My sats and skills ain't doing shit. Like, whoa! Ryan, you tried. You really tried. Wait, really quick before we get off this,

I remember the night that episode, dropped dog the disappointment everybody it was like it was like somebody that killed your child you're like damn so you know what's funny is I was on the other side of Twitter and I remember because I had a tweet that night

blow up but somebody accused me of stealing the tweet oh no I had a tweet that night blow up about brand and uh whatever the tweet was so I was on the other side of Twitter where people were just talking about man how to fuck

Do we go to Brian being the nigger? And we, everybody was so. But then, after all of that, the next day was when I, somebody wrote this tweet. I have to look at the tweet. Somebody's like, man, this dude wrote a tweet. He's like, bro, last night was crazy. He was like, I watched the episode.

I went to sleep. I got up this morning. I made some raisin brain, two strips of turkey bacon. I drank some orange juice Then I ran out and had a light jog A light jog One of those ones where you just get the runner high And none of the soreness

Came back, took a shower, sat down And damn that shit was at Like he had a whole day And it's still bad And he came out like Damn that shit was at man I feel like people were really upset Once they sat with it

But it's like when was When was the death knell moment for Game of Thrones? Like, when for you was like, no, it's gone. It happened before, but when Danny forgot the Iron Fleet, that was? Oh, my, bro. That was the moment where I was like, yeah, man. Danny kind of forgot the Iron Fleet was, I'm like, all right, man, yeah, we lost it. We lost it up.

We lost the sauce. It's over. It's over. All right. I check where you at. Nah, it's me. I'm going to go wildcard here. I know it's early, but I got to get them off the board.

My guy. Egg. Okay. I'm taking egg. Okay. I was interested to see how many people would be drafted from the other shows. There will be a presence. I got to get love to my guy, Egg, man.

He came on screen. At first I'm like, look at that ball-headed egg kit. But, man, when I told him, he flew in my heart. That little homie, man. When he out there, Dung, rise, get up, Sir Duncan. I'm going to start crying, man. That's my little dog, bro.

I wish, well, I hope he is a healthy, strong growing boy, but, like, damn, I hope we do get a few more years of just, like, the precocious. Please be cute for, like, one more season for another before you get crazy. Or the avatar problem where egg is face of wood, he's a little baby. He's six feet tall. He's tall in his sock. I like, what I like about egg more than anything is his comic timing. Oh, he's so funny. He is so funny.

So funny. He's looking at the different. he's just they they cast it perfectly right even talking about the show makes me miss the show i can't wait for it to come back i love that show they did such a phenomenal job it's so amazing it's so amazing uh i get i'm gonna take episode right now oh episodes need to start flying off the show i'm going an episode next man because there's i think i think of the ones that i need are taken then i know what I know what to do. I know what I, I know what I, I know what I, I know what I want to take, but I'm going to take

hard home. Oh, okay. I'm going to take hard home because, like, they go to the wilding things. They had a conversation. Interesting. This is not what I thought was going to go second. Nah. The Nike, bro, that, like, that race from the, whatever, like, little hut they're in, all the

way to the boats, dog. And then John uses the Valerian steel. on the White Walker and he turned the, he just turned the glass or whatever. And then the Knight King at the, bro, when you're watching that for the first time, like I didn't, again, I didn't get to watch a lot. I can't imagine what it had to look like watching a lot.

Because at that point, you still like believe, you still have faith that the Night King's going to be crazy. You still have faith that this is going to be the main God at the end of the day and to see him arms wide, looking at John like, what you're going to do, big dog, what you got? legendary shit chills

that special TV man come on I'm gonna go episode two and I'm gonna go with my heart this is my favorite episode of the series

I gotta go Battle of the bastards shit yeah the Battle of the bastards is I thought you take like I really

no disrespect to hard home that wasn't even the episode I was thinking about there's another episode you were thinking about one before after

there's one I think that is objectively, like, when I was going back through the ringer, shout out our website, did like the best Game of Thrones episodes. Their number one surprise me, but I was like, it doesn't surprise me because in the moment, as I'm watching it, I'm like this particular, we'll talk somebody. We'll talk somebody. If somebody doesn't pick it, oh, we'll talk about it.

I'm watching it. I'm like, I'm standing up at my crib. It is 2.30 in the morning. Everybody else is asleep. I am in my parents' house, staring at the TV. standing at there like this like, oh my gosh, I'm winning a cinema, but we'll talk about it. Yeah. But Battle

of the Bastards, when I rewatch it today, I'm like, oh, even in the moment, because I was watching this live with the people, we got so many memes. It's still one of the greatest shots of Game of Thrones of John facing down the Army. That's an all-timer. In real-timer, like, what the fuck

here? To this day, watching a little homie not Zigginzag. I was like, God. You're coming. Come on. Serpentine. Hey, guys, that is a curse of the Rickies. Oh, Rickon. Anybody named Ricky. In the game of the universe?

No. In any universe. In any universe. From Ricky. Ricky. Neither one of them knows how to zigzag when someone is shooting at them. Now, I'll say this. There's a difference.

Yeah. Rickon is what, like 11 years old. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, not known to be incredibly athletic. Ricky from Boys in the Hood has a scholarship to USC. Football. Yes.

Okay. He has a football scholarship to USC. This is the school of Marcus Allen, of Reggie Bush, of OJ Simpson. Even Lindell White was very fleet of foot. How much do you think the bobbing and the weaving and the zigzagging really would have saved. Who? From boys,

from... Yeah. It's a straight line and it's in an alley. Okay. It's an alley. He can only go so far. And it's a gun.

He could have tried to jump a best, maybe. Brough, first of all, I hope he got a shock. Yeah. Okay. You got to at least run. If you see the guy and upped it, you got to at least run, run, run, run. I don't know, man. Make him move.

Because you know what can happen? If you run straight away from him, he aims middle of your back. Boom. Kill shot. It's a spread with a shotgun. If you run to the side, maybe some of the pellets get you. Maybe some of them don't. Some buck shots end up in the wall, stuff like that.

But the way to ensure that you lose the 1v1 is to run either with Rickon or Rick E. These are two Ricks that don't understand you need to move. And with Rick on, I got to say this, man. This nigga had to shoot into the sky. Yeah, that was, he was calculating it pretty good. I was a little bit like, watch you go. Yeah, you got to at least. His arc was crazy.

Oh, by the way, just to let you know, there was nobody on the other side yelling for him, yelling instructions for him for him to do the right thing. Hey, what happened with that? Hey, it's coming down. To the left. Wait, so I will, if I could give Rick on, like, a little bit of credit.

Rewatching it, I forgot that, like, John starts riding his horse and how, has this handout. So he's probably thinking I need to get to John. I can get to John. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's not zagging. And he's not thinking that he can, yeah.

Yes, yeah, okay. But also John is an idiot because watching this, I was like, wait, John. Now you can't. You get hit with the arrow. I was kind of like with Ramsey. I was just like. Don't bring up too many names. There's people out there still for people to drag.

Man. The fuck is out there. What are you saying? Oh, I'm just joking. No, because there were a couple times where I was like, oh, this don't make sense. even this is also a fucking dope part when

fucking John gets back to Winterfell and Ramsey got the he's like all right we can do a 1v1 now and he's just shooting the air he's like block pop pop pop but I was like at one point he hits the giant I'm like why don't you just kill John there

nah dog it's not it's not cinema baby yeah we gotta get that moment though he's my favorite episode it was incredible all right man I'm going to hero net start great nah no that's no that's a I think that's a great picture yeah I'm going for the value right now

on my third pick I gotta take them I gotta take hero Nnet's north we could have taken him and villain being honest come on let's not do that let's not do that come on that respect everything

that's a value pick no yeah it is it is that's a value at this point in the job because there's a lot of heroes in Game of Thrones you can take but like but I'm taking here on Nett Stark man here's the thing Nend Stark is such a good hero

he doesn't belong in Game of Thrones because Game of Thrones got rid of him in season one. Look, the other thing about, he's so noble, he can't fit in this world. Let me tell you why Ned is so important to me as a hero. Ned sets the standard for both Game of Thrones heroism and Game of Thrones fucking idiocy. Yeah. Right.

Okay. Well, he says no. Yes. Yes. You're right. He's a dumb skull. And so it's his whole fucking family except for Sanzer. Yeah. Okay. He's a dumb skull. He is Ned made a lot of mistakes Ned is a heroic motherfucker Ned's heroism

actually starts the the entire destabilization of King's Landing that leads to not only this run for the throne but also to I guess a better understanding of things at the end he's the one that destabilizes things

in the entire way right like the cracks in the foundation start with the fact that he won't bend and budge to business as usual at King's Landing. But God damn this nigga, a dummy, bro. I got to be honest with you. Great, great hero, but kind of a hymbo type guy. Sold it.

I mean, the biggest mistake, and I'm sorry, I will take this with me. See what you think about this, Steve. The biggest mistake is Cat, come over real quick. Right. Okay, listen, Cat, listen. This again. Cat, listen, I'm sorry. Cat, listen.

You love me. I love you, John. Even though you betrayed me one time. Well, you're not going to believe this. We can't tell anyone this. Do you understand? I love you. You love me.

We can't tell anyone. We are betrothed to each other. Actually, not my kid. You're just making this up, John. You don't want me to believe. Listen, I put it on the wolf. The dire wolf. The sigil of House Stark.

Not my kid. My sister's kid with the prince. We can't tell. If we tell, air to the throne, gonna come, kill me and kill all your kids. So you're such a great mom. You want to keep this place safe. Do not tell this secret.

She's going for that. Right. But no else you could do, that's the second choice. The second choice is to not tell her and watch her kick his ass for 16 years until he gets sent to the wall. Can I be real?

Did Ned, he already saw it in Kat. He's just like, how she was treating John, that was always in you. You know what I'm saying? So like- She's not going to hold it down, man. You know what I mean? Who thinks that Kat Stark would have told? Who's she going to tell?

Who would she tell? You know how you keep a secret? You know how you keep a secret? By not telling nobody. We're talking about honor. Honor. We're talking about honor. He promised his dying sister on her deathbed.

She said, hey, don't tell nobody about this. You know what he did? Told somebody about it. Listen. Well, let me be real with you. I get this very heroic. Also, the wrong decision. I don't, how is that the wrong decision?

There's so many decisions that he made that were the wrong decisions. That's not one of them. But every decision that he made that actually strategically in a world full of cynicism was wrong, he made it for honorable heroic purposes. Who is more of Ned Stark's son in terms of having his blind spot? Rob or John? Because the same thing that undoes Ned It's John because

Yeah Yeah, because Ned Marries the Frey girl Yeah, right? Ned, if Ned takes a vow He would have done it He wouldn't have killed the whole family, right? He, Rob was like,

I'm gonna go marry Talissa, she cute, she not And everybody suffer for it. Ned never would have done that Right, under no circumstance with Ned would have done that. Probably true. Mm-hmm. problem there probably marries a fray girl

whatever Rob didn't do it these starks man these starks good at fighting not really decision makers not great decision makers not great decisions they're not made for politics and by the way can I say something else

don't really listen to women well I don't think anybody listens all right in that universe I think that's a problem the whole world has really listen to women Jamie listen to women like it's like Jamie listens to women or he listens

to a certain woman I'm just saying, Stars don't really listen to women. They try to tell them, this is what you gotta do. Don't listen. You get fucked over. Are they the Kennedys of the...

Without a doubt. They get the Kennedys. They're the Bushes. They keep dying. They're the Bushes. They keep dying. They're the Kennedys. But anyway, that's a value pick for me.

I like my team so far. All right, Steve. Okay, I got the turn. Okay, so my episode, I'm going to pick, speaking of Ned Stark, I'm going to pick episode or season one finale, Baylor. Okay.

Yeah. She was in one episode nine? Episode nine, yeah. Yeah. No, that's a, it's an incredible episode. And basically, like, to me, this is the thing that actually declares the show that it is Game of Thrones and not just some other show. Because a hero or a self-proclaimed, like, noble person like Ned simply does not belong in it. Because he does not think that he can survive in something like that.

Well, also, like, I mean, maybe this is more meta, but like, when watching the show, Sean Bean's the first guy on the call sheet. He's the first guy on his credit. He was like the selling promo picture on that show. I'm watching for Sean B. You're not going to kill Sean B. You're not going to kill House. You're not going to kill Michael Scott. Like you watch the show.

That's the main character. They cut a set off. You're like, oh, this is different. This is not regular TV. My heart broke. It was so hard of broke. There was his message board. There's this message board I go to.

And, you know, people in message board don't like when you talk about the message board. But, like, there was a post on there like, yo, there's only two times where that message board melted down. When Stringer died, nobody believed it. It was like, there's no way. He's got somebody. And when Ned Starr died, I was like, wait, they just killed Ned Stark like he's dead. It's the finale of the first season.

What happens now? People thought how Stark was, there were so many people I know that read these books. There were so many people who did. Yeah. There's some people who had no fucking clue. But also, what shows you how different the internet was is I had caught up probably, when is

the Red Wedding? That's season. That's season three, episode nine. So I got in probably at that point, none of this had been spoiled for me. Ned dying, the red wet, none of it had been spoiled. Oh, yeah. People were very, like, tight-lipped about spoiler culture back then, and it was a very big thing. It was like, oh, you don't know what happens in this latest episode. You got to, like, there's no.

We're also all enjoying the show together and rooting for people to have those same experiences. Real quick before your next pick, nobody picked the wins a winner. Man. I mean. We still got wild cards out there. There's some wild cards out. Yeah, we still got Wildcars out there, but Wins winner to me is

probably the last good game of Thrones. It's definitely the last. It's the last best Game of Thrones episode. Yeah, definitely. And then you're just like, y'all, y'all we're working up to this point. You're like, if we can land this play, we're good. Yeah.

We got the championship. And then everything that came afterwards. Yeah. And then I think I'm going to go with Wildcard here, and I have to pick Sir Duncan the Tall. I think that he exemplifies everything that I've loved about Night of the Seven Kingdoms and he's probably

the best thing that has come out of Game of Thrones in an age. Like, I loved that show from start to finish, and I think he is probably one of the best characters that I've seen on TV in a very long time. So I'm

going to go Dragon. I was often wondering what the first pick Dragon would be, and I'm going with the biggest, baddest motherfucker that there is, if they've ever been, going with motherfucking Vagar. You feel what I'm saying?

This motherfucker is the shack of dragons. He's the shack of dragons. He is the biggest. He is the baddest. She, excuse me. She's the biggest. She is the bag. A battleship in the fucking sky.

And I can't believe she got that motherfucker riding on her, bro. Come on, man. Amen? Yeah, man. That little motherfucker. I hate that motherfucker. Yeah. You chose him, right?

I did. Yeah. I can't stand. I hate that little bitch. That's a bitch-ass-nigger, bro. You don't think he doesn't deserve it? No, he's cunning. That's a true bitch-ass-nigger, bro.

That's a true bitch-ass-nigua. I'm gonna be real with you. Like, that's a true whole. Well, I agree. Counterpoint, though. He's the only one who got the killer instinct in his family. That's bad. That's right.

You can't really fault him for that. Like, he fought moves. He was just like, you know what? I just can't imagine if Vesania, the original writer of Vagar. looked down and saw Aiman running in. Yeah, but here's the thing, too,

they don't took that little motherfucker's eye. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'll be angry too. He took that dragon the night he lost his eye. Accident. I don't care what nobody's an accident. Nah, but what he did to, we did to Luke, man,

in season one. When he showed up, when Luke showed up to Storm's ends, when this little little dragon, and he looked at the corridor. He saw him. Big Gar, Big, yeah. I don't know. who better to me, man?

I'd be like, hey, man. Y'all got it. I'd have been that Willem Defoe Giff like, like, eh. No, I'm turning, I'm turning around. I'm getting out of there, bro. It's not for me. Chuck.

All right. Let's see, let's see. There's a lot. All right, I'm going to go wild card. Yo, I got to go, my man, Damon. I got to go. I mean, the definition of a wild card. Yeah.

Damon is just, that's my man. He's the only one who got the heart. What I trust him in my friend's circle No, but when I need him on the battlefield, come on. The motherfucker gets busy. He'd be putting hands on people. So I'm interested to see what they do with Damon this season. Because last season, you know, they kind of had him on the bench, you know what I'm saying?

If they got him anywhere near a tree, I'm going to be like, all right. Yeah, no, which stuff for him this time. He should be getting active this season. Yeah. And so hopefully it's returned to season one, Damon, where he was giving the crap feeder to the business. You know what I'm saying? So fingers crossed, I would have looked like. like but you right though that man he a menace when they get him acting right all right your last

your last picks my last two picks uh i'm gonna start with villain dang i'm gonna i'm gonna go ramsie in villain i'm a go surcy i have you leaving names off i hate surcy i've said this a many times i hear surcy i think oh come on the best she's one of the best she's one-dimensional me um legitimately got not because that's one thing to like hate a villain because oh they're so tough they're so good But there's another thing to be like, you're not really, you're not really partaking in this adventure. Talk about your pick. She a dickhead.

But now I ran Ramsey, bro, from Rieke to Sonsa to John to have just made everybody's lives. Hell. I hated him. I hated him. Oh, my, bro. When he, when Sonsa stands over his dead body man getting that leg back, that mess something to me, dog. That messed something to me. I wanted to see him dead.

Again, I watched the show in like six days. So legitimately, it was like three days. But I was hot. I would go to bed like, man, why is he still alive, bro? I was so happy to see him get God, bro. That meant something to me. My last pick, I got to take a dragon. I got a lot of options.

Can we take stuff from the books? Yeah, sure. But, nah, because I'm trying to win. So, I mean, Vagar is probably the right choice in terms of, like, the number one dragon. You know, I'm going to go... I'm gonna go Drogon. Okay.

The last remaining dragon in West Oroz. This is how you know that the dragons in Game of Thrones are semi-sentient in the sense that when... Spoiler alert for season 8 of Game of Thrones, when John stabs Danny in the chest and Drogon comes, and the first thing he does is burn the Iron Throne. because he knows he's got that sense like, oh man, this is what it's all about

and that killed. I got my mama killed. He left John. He let John slot. He was like, yo, you killed my mom, but this is what really killed my mom. I'm going to take her body, bury it somewhere and go.

He already knew. Brogan already knew. He's like, we was wilded a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. He was a lot. You know what I'm saying? Let me just take that.

We can deal, but you wouldn't have to see me again, where Joe Gondon had killed a bunch of kids. you know what else Drogan did Drogan set itself free Drogan was like

I'm about to fly I'm a dragon man I'm not about to be with these people because they don't know what they want They all they do is use me to burn everything up And burn elementary schools and shit I'm out of here

Was that his moment where he's like I'm done I'm done with you crazy white people Yeah yeah I got it Your show is tough One of your dragons Just quits on the job

I'm going back to Valeria Man y'all got it Do you think the dragons Were a little bit Towards the end a little bit like damn y'all motherfuckers just like keep using us for all this warfare why can't we eat chickens and goats in the country side the nukes packed up and went home yeah i think the dragons i think the dragons after the targaryian civil war they were probably like well what the fuck is going on man it's not a lavas left you guys don't care about us you guys use us to do all of this stuff i thought we was cool i thought we was friends i thought we had a bond a sole bond but you have nothing well they're supposed to but i mean that's why the targaryians were in charge for such a long time because of the threat of the dragons right because just hey just know for want to set this place to blaze i'll do it don't play with me and for the most part i mean agon used i don't want to name some dragons but used his dragons to conquer

the seven kingdoms and then we see at the at the end of the series dros or deniers like bet i'm gonna burn this whole this whole place down like it's a possibility chuck you on dragon time well you can't have a conquest without the black dread. I'm going with Balerian. There you go.

See, that was, I was thinking about that, but we, that's a cool ass name. Blerian is, I don't know

if y'all, if y'all got a refiring blood, man. The stuff Balaurian was getting up to, hilarious. Some stuff that we,

Valerius. Ballarius. We don't see it in the show, but it's just something that happens to a Patty Constantine's character,

Vassaris. He claimed Balaerian. He wrote, Balaireon flew across the city one time. And then Blair was like, that's it. Y'all got it.

Yeah, I'm dying. This guy, he got a problem. Just his luck. I'm out. I'm out. Y'all got it. Dog, that's so funny. Like, you'll be waiting for your drag.

Like, I could drive Ferrari. Did it out? You drive a one? But you got the black dread. This is the goat dragon. This is awesome. And then he flies in the sky. Like, his shadow covers cityscapes, dog.

Like, and for you to get the one ride, he was like, you know what? It's like that one, I forget, like an athlete go out there, throw one pass. Like, you know what? I'm good. It's tough. It's over with it. Yeah. I got to call it.

Call it. Go to one practice. Hey, call to press conference. Hey, hey. I'm done. Wild card. For my wild card, I am going to draft Searcy Lancaster. Hell yeah.

That's also a value. That's a good value pick up. Yeah. I'm going to draft Searcy Lannister. She was like, she's like a utility player, man. Her arc is insane. Her arc is insane. And the show kind of lost itself when it lost the ability to find out like what to do with her.

Yeah. Because she, to me, more than anything, exemplified what the world of West Rose was about. Yeah. She was born into this family. She, like, had this illicit, disgusting love. But then that love was really. replaced by the love of her children. This entire time she acted entitled.

She acted evil, but she also acted like she was really attached to certain things and she couldn't let go off. She could never get to being a good person because she wasn't raised in goodness, but she also understood love and all of that stuff and just became a really cynical version of herself. Loved her children so much that she bombed her last one's wife and then he killed himself and then she wasn't sad about it for real. She couldn't be sad. By that time, we was in all.

black. I'm wearing all black sometimes. You know what I'm saying? By that time, we had to just get busy. Oh, no, my children. Why in, like, fantasy, sci-fi shit, when they want to prove to you that a motherfucker is, like, means business, they always go for the all-black. Like, Luke, when he comes out with an all-black joint, all-black and the hair cut. She got the pixie-cuit. It's never like when they, well, no, because Gandalf came back and he was in the whole...

He was Gandalf the white. He was in the all-white, and he was looking crispy. That's when I stopped trusting him. Look. He was prime gandolph. I'm like, why I got to be white, huh? Why he got to be white? Asoka too?

Asoka to white. Let me ask you out something. Did you ever feel sorry for Sir C. Lannister? Hell no. Yes. No. There were times.

I actually think the show did a good job in the beginning with, like, that first season, first two seasons where I'm like, damn. Yeah. She married to Robert. Who one? She's in a messed up world. Yeah. Bobby B was a tough husband.

Like her dad, Tywin, using her as a fucking pawn in his big game. Yeah, she loved her kids, but deep down, you know, one of these is the antichrist. Yeah. You're like. Oh, speaking of that. I'm surprised. So far. Well, he's, it possible that we hated him so much we didn't even want.

He's undrafted. Like, really, you can go with him, we'll have that conversation now. I mean, Steve has one pick left. He's got a dragon, so we could have the conversation now. Definitively, right now it's time for prop clipping. Definitively, right now, who is worse? Who is worse? Joffrey or Ramsey?

Who's worse? Joffrey. No, Ramsey, easily. I would say Joffrey only because he had. like he ran all of King's Landing. He was like he was more consequential to more people's fate than Ramsey. Yeah, but if we're just talking about villains, I am always more afraid of the villain

that is just as smart, if not smarter, and more cunning and more strategic than our heroes. Right. And starts with less and amasses as much as Ramsey did versus Joffrey's cruelty came from stupidity. Right. Which is like, it makes you mad at the character, but I was never really afraid of Joffrey. I was always like, well, of course he was going to do that.

Right. With Ramsey, I was just like, how are they going to fucking get rid of this cunning motherfucker? Yeah, and that's why I say, like, he's a better villain. But he was, but Joffrey was clearly worse of a person. This is what I'm saying. I think what you guys just talked about is the difference between the two characters. Ramsey is more dangerous because not only is Ramsey. cunning and smart, he controls his way into being

to legitimizing himself with his father and taking Winterfell and being the Lord of Winterfell, right? He's also extremely lethal in combat. So he's legitimately dangerous, right? In that regard, in that respect. Joffrey is legitimately dangerous because of his access to power. Yeah.

Because he is the fucking king. And he comes from this line of Barathean slash Lannisters. I mean, there's no Baratian. That just means that, like, if he's having a bad day, 150 people might just die. Yeah. He might just, and so that's what makes the conversation. To me, that makes it a wash and just makes it about, like, which guy you think is worse, right? Because he is less dangerous from an intellectual standpoint.

Of course. but more dangers from a power standpoint, whereas Ramsey is like my worst nightmare. Sure. Yeah, man. If Ramsey was in King's Landing, then it's obvious. If Ramsey was in Kings Landing, he may be rules for 30 years.

Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know. Joffrey was unstable enough to know that he was going to get God eventually. Ramsey is. And also, Tywin. Tywin and Tyree,

you have people that are like, to me, Joffrey was always just a figure-hand. which is like a figurehead is always going to be less scary and lethal than the like... You're right. But it's only that when he's that immature and that...

True. Unstable, do I realize how dangerous power is? Because Geoffrey's just Trump. But he wanted to do stuff and there were people that wouldn't let him do it. Exactly. That is true. Like there were people that were like,

we talked about earlier and he wanted to like serve, like, Stark's head to Sanzah. He wanted to do stuff and Tywin was like, Terrian was like, no. And in Taiwan, Joffrey was held in check in a way that Ramsey was. Were you, who, then who would you be more afraid of Tywin or Ramsey? Because to me, I, Tywin.

Tywin. Tywin. Tywin. Yeah. Easily Tywin. Easily Tywin. He was, he was nuts. Like, like, but not, no.

Actually, I was afraid of him because he wasn't nuts. Yeah. He wasn't. He was always the smartest person in the room. He was pragmatic. Like he, like, he, like, he wasn't nuts. Jummy. Hey, go let, what do you call it?

Go down and go kill the, what do you call it? The Dornish Princess, right? Like, what do you call it? When Bobby B, like, that's what the battle, or what do you call it? Robbins Rebellion. When they get to. Well, he made the decision to kill all of the. Yeah.

Well, they weren't Dornish. They were Targaryians. Yeah, but they were Dornish. And he's like, go, the mountain. Go down there, kill everybody. Like that's just like, it's not like, I'm not going to say it's like genius level thinking or whatever, but that's just the person I want no problems with. Yeah. We're just like, yeah.

Go, go, go handle that. Go murder those innocent people who have no business. They murder. But we just can't have any threats to this throne, any claims to the throne. I'm like, yo, dude, that's a guy I want no beef with. And whatever, and whatever happens after that, we deal with it when we deal with it. Like, hey, the Viper wants his revenge one day. he's going to want it,

but the entire time he has to deal with the throne and we're the throne now. It was just, like, Tyler was a bad motherfucker. But out of the Ramsey Joffrey's situation,

I still can't. I never can quite make up my mind about who was worse. Yeah. Ramsey is certainly more dangerous. Joffrey was a cool, but Ramsey's more dangerous. Ramsey has to get it up the mud, too. He was a bastard.

He had to earn the Bolton name. Oh, you think is what break the tie. I think, I think, I picked Ramsey. Ramsey for a reason. Right? Like, Joffrey's, again, Johnry more like Trump

like in the fact, like you got power, but like, you can, like, he jingle him away from the worst decisions he could ever make. There are literally scenes

at the time and be like, shut up. He gets, he gets backhanded by, by Tyrion. Right, yeah. Right. Like, I don't,

I can't quite respect somebody. He's a guy. Over there again like that. That would never happen in Ramsey Bowl. Oh, he'll be dead.

He'll be fit to the house. That was another great one. He smacked him a couple of times. Oh, yeah. A couple time. Terry was not playing with them. No.

Teary not having that. Try that with Ramsey. You're going to end up in the stockade. Nah, dog. I don't want it. I don't want it. All right. You got a dragon?

Yes, I do. I'm picking Vermethore. Okay. And it's probably because it's one of the coolest scenes that I think Game of Thrones is done with the dragons. When Rainier was holding auditions for a rider. And they got like 20 motherfuck, poor bastards to just get eaten. The red sowing. The red sewing was incredible.

The bronze fury. He's the second. largest dragon. He's just unruly and it that scene of the red sewing is basically like it really was a great way to sell, you gotta be a crazy motherfucker to try to ride a dragon. And to tame that type of like otherworldly nature is just incredible to see. Shout out Jehires, man. Jehires the first. Yeah.

Was his, was his mount for a long, long time. He was the man. Man, we really did it. We did it. Charles, give us the rundown. All right. So, Jomey, you drafted John Snow, Ramsey, Bolton, Drogan, Hard Home, and Egg. I have Tyrion, DeNaris, Ballerian, Battle of the Bastards, Damon, then has Ned, Tywin, Vagar, the Reigns of Casimir, and Circe. Steve, last but not least, Aria, Amin, Vermethor, Baylor, Sir Duncan the Tall. Before we wrap up, who do we think, who we think ran away with this? I'm looking at these lists are very balanced. I think these are very balanced lists. Yeah, okay. Who should have been drafted, didn't go drafted? Who are the biggest, like the mountain isn't on here? Brand of Tarth, probably.

I was so close. The hound. The hound is, is, man. The hound's arc is so great. Bron, also for Wildcard. I love Braun. Braun was my man, dog. Barrett Dondarian.

But that's just me. But that's just me. She's very gorgeous to me. She had to flame a sword, bro. Rob Stark, if he didn't go out, like he'd, did. Rob can't get drafted. Rob's hard.

You can't make a mistake like that. You can't make a mistake like that. I was with Rob. I'm like, he's going to take us there. Yeah. Rob can't get drafted. Rob can't get drafted, bro. Yeah, Rob, Rob, can't get drafted.

That's my guy. A Stark can't be draft. A lot of Stark's went. Oh, no, Sonsa. No Sons. Oh, right, no. No Sons. That.

No Sonsa. Well, is that our fault or is that the show's fault? Because they did not know what they wanted to do for Sonsa. If we, if we, if we, if we, make a list of people that the show let down will be here all day. Sonsa to me is among the most egregious.

Not one black person I was just thinking that. We should have a black Masconde. You could take Alan You could take what do you call it? The sea snake. Seasnake was cool.

From a house of the dragon. Not one black person drafted and the black people's blurt's draft. What do you call it? The dude. Steve, you could have done the funniest thing ever. Oh, I could have done an all, oh my God.

You could have done the funniest thing. Oh my God, I need to do. God damn it. God damn it, Steve. I need to play, I need to be playing 40 chess here. Who else? You know what? If we, if we got to recast.

We didn't. No Night King? No Night King? No Wildlings. No Wildlings. You drafted? You drafted a Mans Raider? Come on, man.

I'm saying, like, we, we, we did this and it's good. There's so many characters, such a rich world. No Jamie. No Jamie. Oh, Jamie? No Jamie. No Jamie. No Padrick? Damn, I did love Pop. No Ed Shearing.

Good to draft of Ed Shearing. Pedro Pascal. Wait, who was Robert's bastard that they, like, introduced for a couple episodes trying to make it seem like he was going to go for? Oh. With the axe?

Yeah. Oh, Gendry? Yeah. No. No. No. They will argue. When that popped off,

I thought almost certainly he was going to be the one to get it. Because I thought they were going to go, okay, they're going to bring in a bastard, then legitimize him in some way. I'm a true Baratian. Yeah. And then, like, I'm going to be, he's going to be the one to get it. You know what character did not get drafted that I should have drafted? It was one of my favorite Game of Thrones characters.

Hodor? Hodor. Stanis, man. Oh. Stanis is one of the Stanis. Stannis is one of the most complicated, tragic characters in the whole fucking thing. He lost me,

when he, when he burned his daughter house. He did. He did. But here's the thing when that episode happened being on Twitter, we was like, we knew it was coming,

but he loved his daughter, bro. It just, it was too. He, to me, was just such a great example of what getting fixated on all of that stuff really meant.

So, all right, my last question for y'all, because we've never talked about this because also didn't go drafted Brad. When Brad go to the Iron Throne and tearing on all that bullshit about stories and shit in the moment I was like, fuck this

to fuck the show. If you, like, from the books to the pilot or whatever, it is very obvious that like Brand is like being a, like is a character when you just like, when you look at the entire arc of it, you're like, oh,

the show starts with him getting put that pilot, push out of the fucking tax. You're just like, well, of course he's going to become king. But is there any way in a TV show for that have landed better? Yeah, it's the same thing with DeNaris. You got to literally like take time to develop that. But they forgot about Brand for a whole season.

Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, yeah, but at the same time, like, to your point, you still saw the vision. You can see, going back, you can see it. You're just like the show didn't give it. the fuck about brand for so long I was like by the end I was like wait why the fuck would because also I'm standing there and like

Terry is making his whole pitch and I'm like these motherfuckers not only do they not who know who this nigga is they don't care about him we thought he was going to time travel at the end of this show like it was crazy people thought that yeah what they think well y'all had some crazy theories man

yeah the theories were nuts I was not locked in like that oh my gosh time travel yeah no man that's insane I mean I guess you are like you would his powers in some way that we go. And go back in time and be like, hey, guys, what was it, what happened in Justice League when the Flash came through?

Yeah, yeah. Am I early? Early? Oh. Am I early? I think of early. I think I'm early. Don't trust him.

That's what y'all thought. Bram was going to. Don't trust him. Those Snyder bots were so crazy for that. All right. Guys, that is it. Vote on who you think is the winner of this mother. Looking, draft.

On top of that. House of a Dragon is here. It's here. You guys excited? House of the Dragon. House of the Dragon. House of the Dragon. As we record right now, 100% on Ron Tomatoes.

How many people have seen it? Quite a few. Quite a few. That's like a Stephen Spielberg movie. Oh, my God. We will not be lying about House of the Dragon. Just a joke. If you enjoyed the movie, good for you.

It's a joke, guys. You know what's funny? People were, people that listened to us thought we were too hard on it. Like our audience thought we were too hard on it. Meanwhile, other people, everybody just had a problem. That's how you know that you still matter. I will say that about Spielberg as a filmmaker.

You still matter. You're still consequential. Because everyone had like a super strong take. Like people were like, you guys were so tough on the movie and all of that stuff like that. But, you know, now people are out there and people are. I saw someone, a shout out to everything. I was scrolling. I was like, someone actually circled back and apologized to you.

Vennie. He's like, yeah, I saw the movie. I'm sorry I was not I'm sorry that wasn't yet for the apology come on he said

because he got at me at first he was like oh he was like nah man I saw the movie my bad bro he must have

he must have hated that shit to go yeah it must have him like to go back on the internet

he was like oh no I got a tow van man my fault oh g all right oh before we go I want to like

are we gonna ever give the audience and Alleya can jump in here since we since we know, are we going to ever give the audience more Spirin'A war? It was a good season. I enjoyed it quite a bit.

What? Be serious. We got fuck your house and drag it. We got fuck your Supergirl. Charles, did you see any Spider-N-War? Nica, no. I was on vacation, bro. What news? It was a good show. It was a good show. It's a good show. It's a good show. Spider-N-Wore. Why are you acting like this, Chuck? He's allergic to having fun.

Chuck, Chuck, Chuck, Chuck. Check it out. I'm a die. one day and my boy's on the couch telling me to watch some Spider-Nuard, bro. What the fuck? You got really fucking mean with it. Why are you? We're going to be talking to a skeleton on a chair one day? What are you talking about?

That would be so funny if you know, when Charles is 125 because he's going to be with us for a long time. Right. He's laying down. He's with his he's with his great-grandchildren. Maybe his great-great-grandchildren at that point. And they're like, hey, Chuck, is there anything

great-granddad, Chuck. Is there anything that you regret? Granddadby, Chuck. Yeah. I should have never watched by the war. They're going to be like, what? I should have never watched. It was on prime video.

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There's so many of them. I come up on every single day when I'm scrolling around YouTube and watching stuff. Something else has been happening too. Like I'll watch a video and the video would be great and I get like 10 minutes into the video and I'll be like is this AI?

And you know that the videos are AI because they mispronounce easy to pronounce word. Like it'll be written as MVP and they'll be like Wolverine was the umph

of the Have you seen that? Have you seen Claude freak out trying to say WWE? What? Have you seen Claude freak out trying to say WWE? No, Oh my God. It goes into like full-blown psychosis.

It can't say. It can't say WWE. And it's just, for like 30 seconds. That's funny. So like I'll be watching these videos. I'll be like what? Like we was watching one on the Bible.

Me and Kalika was watching one on the Bible. AI videos in a Bible. Please free Kalika from these YouTube videos, bro. We should do a whole episode, the four of us we bring our YouTube algorithms and we just show

it. Hold on just real quick before I go my YouTube algorithm is I think I got the best algorithm

ever. Look at this I got what's your homepage looks like. Hey I see those videos too what?

Ken the guy shooting all the guns the nigger trying to shoot hold on this is the best algorithm ever is it gun videos

it's one it is one has Iran one and then how many that's the first that's the first video right

and then How many cast iron pans does it take the stop of a bullet? Oh, right, yeah, yeah, I've seen that guy. I've seen that guy. This guy shoots, he'll be like... He puts like a 50 caliber bullet through like 20, like industrial pans. Right, yeah. Then I'm like a lot of took a cross in us on here.

All right. All right. And then after that... I feel like the best one of the green eminence. I got Teddy swims on here. I got all kinds of stuff. That would be one of the best shows that we just went algorithm for algorithm. Oh, algorithm for algorithm.

Oh, let's go. I got Pitching Ninja on here. One of the greatest games ever pitched Jacob Debrowski. How did the original 1985 Thundercast in? Then I got Pierce Morgan. Wait, wait, wait, wait, let's go back on. Then Pierce Morgan? What's that?

Right on the left. That's the video. What? What is he? Let me see. It's one woman changed Olympic rules forever. It's about a woman changing the rules of the Olympics. Show him the thumbnail.

That's what happened. Show him the thumbnail. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course.

Yeah. It's an attention getter. Jalen Brunson, 2015, Mr. Basketball of Illinois a video from 10 years ago. I got the best. And then Marquise, Marcus Brownlee,

black tech guy that talks about this. I love this guy. Y'all can't fuck with me. We're going to do it. After the next part, at the end. Algorithm for algorithm. Algorithm.

Y'all can't fuck with my algorithm. My shit is crazy, bro. I got the craziest YouTube algorithm ever. Oh, my God. All right, on Sunday, check for the return of Thrones that will be back on Monday to Midnight Boys give their instant reactions to see the three premiere of House of a Dragon.

Our producers today are Aleas and theirs. Shout to Alea who's been doing an incredible job. He's done so much for us. Keeps the trains moving. Devin Baraldi, who also does a fucking amazing job. Jomi, who's here. on social. Hashtag Jummy Milkman of Westeros,

great hashtag. Phenomenal. Well, if we're going to be honest, most of Westeros that we've seen is milk. The Westerosie Badi's draft is deep. You know what? Honestly, we should be able to do a Westerosi Badi's draft. And I'm going to be real with you.

We should be able to. We're not going to do it because if we do it, then y'all are going to start marching and stuff. They're going to start marching. Can't do a Westerosey Badi's draft. But, I mean, you got to take Monsie. You take Monset first? Number one, not even close.

One of the baddest, one of the baddest motherfuckers that ever been on TV, period. I don't get a phone to what nobody said. Crazy. And that would be controversial. We should be able to do the draft, but nobody is going to let it. I'm even trying to think.

A Westerosie batty's draft, we should be able to do that. Again, I think 9 of the 7 Kingdom is really trailblazed here. I think Red was a revelation. I had Natalie Emmanuel to the list. I'm sorry. Oh, no. Wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I thought we were done adding. First of all, she's not retiring the list.

I know, but still, though, she got to be added to the list. Is this a reluctant ad, or is this? Yeah, I don't want to add her. Because she's been around doing a thing for a long ago. But unfortunately, you must. It doesn't make sense to add her, because that's not part of it's not out of it. I thought we were retiring. What's, what do you call it? Um, what do you call it? Um, Tyrion's girlfriend at Taiwan and,

then. Ooh. By the way. pressure. Super pressure and also gets busy. Right? It gets busy. You got a lot of game tape out there.

I'll say also, I'll say also the San Sisters. Oh, right. Going crazy. Because one of them was from Ironfish. Yeah, calling me. I feel like if we would do the baddies draft, we got to bring House of R on. We got to make it a. Yeah, man, that's pandering.

I don't, I. We don't need nobody to check our work. That's Pandora. Either we do it or we don't. Check on it. I always want to avoid. We got a laia. Tracking.

No. It's not a layer. If we go too far, Alea, I trust Alia and Devin. Do it? He was in chat. It's already going too far. You know, I trust Alea and Devin if we go too far.

If we go too far, I trust the Lian and Den. Look, like, I don't know how deep the Game of Thrones, right? Like, we'd have to, like, for all four of us. with like, you know, even 16, 20 categories. Crazy. Game of Thrones got them like that. Yeah, but I mean, what about the lady that was in the first season that was in the car? Yeah, right.

But that's the lady riding the cart is not really like. No, she was in enough of the show. We know her name. She was amazing. All I'm saying is you can do a fandom baddies draft. You can go Game of Thrones, MCU, DC, Star Wars. You guys can do Westrose Baddies, but you have to include men as well. Okay.

All right. That's fine. We got Patreon in there. Here's the problem. I mean, I don't, when there's so many women out there, I'm not going to be, I don't understand what's, I don't, I legitimately don't understand what's wrong with it. I don't understand. You don't think people would be like, damn. I don't.

Is it objectification? So here's the problem. But you don't, is it? Okay, okay, last thing I, okay, I'm going to ask. Okay, my ask. Okay, all right. We got a rest of road. We got a GOT baddies tier maker already made.

So, okay, let me ask a question. Okay. All right. We got some funny picks. Everybody can answer. Okay. You have some funny picks. In the back you can answer to you.

I'm taking a letter to Tyrone of a word overall. In the back, you can answer to it. Everybody can answer. Marjorie. Oh my God. Marjorie, see, is objectification bad if it doesn't come along with marginalization? Meaning, we just saying you look good. We're not saying that you don't look, that you look good, and that's your only purpose.

We're not saying that all you are. It's a yes and. See, back in the day, when you would objectify, I'm talking about, I'm making an argument for ethical objectification. And let me tell you what I mean. Okay. Just listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. I'm listening. Listen, listen.

Back in the day, there was the poster. And the poster was of the sports car. and the woman. And the lady, yeah. That's unethical objectification. Okay. Because it makes the sports car and the woman the same thing.

These are both things that you attain. These are objects. But if you're saying that you are a beautiful actress playing this great character and you also bad as shit and we're respecting your craft and respecting what you have to say and what you've done,

but also just saying you bad, I feel like that's okay. I feel like it's okay to be like, hey, you know what? Give me somebody that you like. Sabrina Carpenter, I bet. And like, it's like you like her. I can tell that's your shit.

No. Let's say you are a great, amazing, amazing singer, but I like the way you look in that little shit that you wear. Or be it whomever it could be. Beyonce, Lado, whatever. We respect the talent

and realize that you. you are a full three-dimensional lady, but also you bad as shit. That's not okay? So what I would say is not only are there not many women, especially in the fandom space,

nine times out of ten because we are dudes. When we talk about these women, one of the first things we do is, oh, she's bad. So then you got to dig a little bit deeper. If you're a man on Game of Thrones, there's some but ugly niggas on But men, especially as actors, can be ugly and we're not judging them based on how bad they are.

But to get on Game of Thrones or an HBO show, nine times out of ten, you have to be one of the hottest. It's not nine times out of ten on Game of Thrones, though. I'm not going to go there, but there's, but what I'm saying is, I feel like you got it is. I'm not going to go there, but there's representation. But all I will say, especially when it comes to the nerd space, Star Wars, MCU, whatever, because there's so few women. in these roles, it could get a little problematic. We are basically saying, like, we're going to do a draft about how attractive these

with it. It's not only that. It's not only that, like, because you're 100% correct. Even if we were to go, hey, guys, here's the setup. We want to glorify the whole thing, everything that you just said. Even if we set that at the top, putting the graphics, see what happens. I'm just saying, I don't care about that. They killed us for the sinners stuff.

They killed us for the sinners. Oh, man. The Sinners Recast, dog. I was getting DMs for days. Hey, hey, hey, what's wrong with you? Hey, fuck them. You don't get the joke. You don't watch our shit.

I don't get to fuck what you said. I had a thought, just a thought about this. I hear what you guys are saying, and I will stand down. I will say, though, that I do think that there's an ethical way to do this. I think that is uncharted territory. If we were a draft and then also talk a little bit about the actress and she went to the Royal Shakespeare Company and all of that stuff. So we're going to do, here we're going to read her. It might be like she's in a comedy, she's a actress.

She's bad. She's more than just a baddie, but she is also a baddie. That's a part of it. The leading women draft. We did the leading men draft how many years ago. We got to do the leading women draft. And it doesn't have to be about bad. It should be about acting talent.

But some of these not leading women, no. We just can't do it. We're not there yet. We need to get. Who says we can't? Get more parody in society. But I think, I want to hear from the midnight riders in the midnight mob. Do you think this is wrong

or do you think this is something especially the women? Yeah, I'd more so care about what the women. Yeah, what are the women? Ladies and Danes. What do they think? But we gotta be able to have the conversations. Nah, no, no.

It would be funny. Let me ask you this. Last thing I'll say. Oh, this is not going to be. Let's say that a new rock stars, boss, vase, heavy spoilers. If they did a black character's draft during Black History Month.

Would you guys be mad at that? Now, if it was four white guys doing the draft? Sorry, come on, man. Let's have some share. You think that's not? See, I would take it as a celebration. As long as they didn't put a dollar amount by the people and then that's auction.

Oh, auction. No, yeah. I'll say this. Any single time that's what's an auction draft. White people are doing any type of draft or auction where there is black people, anywhere near it. Nigger

we really got to go. I hear you. But the NFL draft is a straight-up slave auction, bro. It is. I don't disagree. I don't disagree. Them niggas come out with their shirts off and they body fat percentage. They run. They jump.

They talk about where their daddy's been from. They pedigree. It's a straight-up. The NFL drive is a It's a lot. It's not, you can't call these niggas slaves. They're making $50 million or whatever, some of them. But the NFL draft is straight up. They make you answer questions.

They do the whole thing. When you really break down. When you really think about it. When you really think about it, they'll see a guy standing up there. His shirt off. There's a bunch of white guys with clipboards around. And here you watch the white nerds going.

Debuted in 1973. Had all the intangibles. John Stewart came in. fully white organization really mixed the DC universe up. Nah, but it'd be crazy because they'd be like, you see, you see his hips and the way his thighs move, man,

his barrel-chested body is just running that 40. Oh, Mike, his arm size, he's like, brother, it's tough. It really is weird. But they got to do that. That's what I'm saying. Whoa.

Do they do not have to do that as part of the game? Do they have to? And by the way, we got to do it. But we're not going to because that's not what we're on. But I was just asking the question. question. Chuck, take us out. I'm just asking. You need not just end the podcast.

I'm just asking questions. A digital production from Arjuna, Ram Gapal. The draft is a wrap. Let your dragons fly far. And my black ass will never be watching. Spider-Man Newark.