The Ringer-Verse - The Midnight Resurrections | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

The Midnight Boys are here to discuss all things canceled, from Van’s hot takes to shows they think deserve a second chance. Each of the boys goes through the top four shows that they think deserve ...a TV resurrection (09:13). Hosts: Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, and Jomi Adeniran Producers: Aleya Zenieris, Jonathan Kermah, and Steve Ahlman Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:18 So just to be clear as the mud, you're inevitably going to step into the summer. You don't need WeatherTech unless you plan on doing summer. Visit weathertech.com today. Welcome into the Ringiverse. This is, of course, the Ringer's Nexus podcast fee for all things, fandom. We are, okay, this is difficult. Because you just see me and Jomey right here. Charles is joining this from his house.
Starting point is 00:01:58 So I'm going to do a quick. We are Steve is on vacation. Yes. We are, join me to explain our dinner on? You've got questions and he's got answers. We are Old Man Van. He has the receiving researcher hairline. We are Coke, baby Chuck, 24-k, closer.
Starting point is 00:02:12 AKA The Thai The Thai dinner hottie. Okay. Joining us is the Midnight Collective. Alea O'Brien Zanaris and the chocolate drop himself Mr. Chocolate, Mr. Midnight,
Starting point is 00:02:33 chocolate rain, Jonathan Kermann. Okay. We are the Midnight Boys. Now, we should say this. Okay. So everybody is sick. And then everybody is out.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Steve's on vacation. Yes. Okay. Charles has a sexually transmitted disease. I wouldn't call it that. I have food poisoning. Get the fuck out of your. Charles,
Starting point is 00:02:53 Charles, listen, Charles, this is all I know. This is all I know. Charles went on a date. Okay. And after he went on this date, all of a sudden he couldn't come into work. Okay. My best bud and I went to go get some Taiwanese food
Starting point is 00:03:09 and I woke up at 5.30. Drop it at a time. atomic bomb in my fucking bathroom. My cat was running away. Now, it's not what you want to hear. It's not what you want to hear. Now, we'll say this. Bro, I'm going to be honest. Like, the pepto-bizmo is about to fucking wear off.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So please. Also, social, Insta, Twitter, Facebook, TikTok for now, save Jomi's job, Jomi. Soce's going great. Hey, if you're a fan of rings of power, Mal and Joe are going, nuts over there. So we're going to have a bunch of videos, a bunch of social clips for y'all. Make sure you follow and stay tuned in. They're going to go crazy. Lock in. That's interesting because
Starting point is 00:03:55 the only fans of Rings of Power are Mal and Joe. Well, I argue there's like dozens, maybe, you know, maybe 30 of them. I would say, Joe. You haven't even watch Rings of Power, then, so don't be unfair. I'm not being unfair. I'm only judging, you're right. That's very true. I'm only judging it by what I'm getting back. And what I'm seeing, Is there being a lot of conversation and negative conversation about rings of power? I also saw Joe fighting the good fight. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:04:27 On behalf of Rings of Power, she was asking people, why do they care how much Rings of Power costs? She was fighting on behalf of it, so that tells me that things aren't going well. So- Oh, I mean, things aren't going. Here's the thing. As someone who has watched a couple episodes, yeah, I'm not surprised. Rings of Power, it ain't it. It's tough. Can't want to more.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Let me ask you a question. Before we get into the show, just real quick, if rings of power were to get canceled, if something like that were to happen, how big of a black eye is that for Amazon? It's not great because, again, you did spend a lot of money, even though I do agree with Joe that, like,
Starting point is 00:05:03 who cares how much, like, a billion-dollar studio was paying for content? At the end of the day, if you spend a lot of money and you get nothing back from it, you do kind of have to look at it like, hey, man, what's going on? You have to reassess.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I start asking some important questions. Like, what are we doing here? Is this the, if it gets canceled, is this the last Game of Thrones play that a streamer or studio tries to do? Because it feels like this is like, we're on our last legs of all these streamers trying to be like, this is our version of Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 00:05:35 So Rings of Power doesn't work. Do you think they're all going to kind of just abandon trying to chase that dragon? No pun intended. I think that that's already kind of happened. I think so, too, but speaking of dragons, I think Amazon is developing fourth wing for a TV show. It's another book about dragons and like a big fantasy world,
Starting point is 00:05:54 so kind of maybe, probably not, but at the same time, they're not stopping. It's an interesting question, and the reason is because we're seeing some of these streamers pivot towards things that they know people want, live sports, things of that nature. Right. But before, the first thing was to go grab will of time,
Starting point is 00:06:12 foundation, everybody wanted to try to get a deep lore, halo, all of these things. And they have all been basically kind of failing. They were trying to get people into these worlds so they could expand these worlds. And this was part of the IP rush that we saw a couple of years ago. But to Charles's point,
Starting point is 00:06:31 it hasn't been a really successful experiment. No. Like really with anyone. It's tough. So you might see people pivot back to reality or to live sports, and maybe you'll get less of these shows, but maybe the shows you get will be better, who knows, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:46 I mean, a lot of the streamers are already trying to do TV shows that already worked, like hospital shows, procedural, cop shows. So I think they're all realizing, like, maybe people wanted one Game of Thrones, and now they just want their soaps and their police shows and doctor shit. Yeah, it's true.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Well, we're on YouTube. You can watch every Midnight Boys House of Our Talks of Thrones episodes, YouTube.com, backslash, at Ringervervus. like, comment, subscribe. I also forgot to introduce somebody. Arjuna is actually here. He's on the screen as well. Arjuna, the watcha.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Rime Gapal, he's sick. Everybody's, me and Jomi, the only niggas keeping it real, you know what I'm saying? Steve somewhere. I don't know what Steve's up to right now. Steve's not sick. He's on vacation. I know.
Starting point is 00:07:30 We're sick at him. Or he's sick of us. Either way. On Friday, Button Match returns to discuss Star Wars Outlaws, which I'm hearing is the best Star Wars video game ever. Who told you that? People are saying it. Not true. You don't like it.
Starting point is 00:07:45 I like it. Man, you know, it's not perfect. Also on Friday, a house of our gives you their deep dive on Rings of Power Season 2, episodes 1 through 3. Yeah. Rings of Power back. Rees of Power. Back. Back with more power. More rings. This should have been season two of Rings of Power. More
Starting point is 00:08:00 rings, more power. Two rings, two power. More rings, more power. Let's go. Guys, this is, I feel like the fans now. I feel like in the studio. Y'all are going off on fucking tangents. I'm telling you, we're on a fucking timer. Well, because your booty hole is leaking.
Starting point is 00:08:15 That's why. We don't care about what you're going through. Anytime you got to go take a shit, go take the shit. You can go leave, you're like, go do this. Keep the pep to Bismal right by you, just take the side. Rush me. Yeah. Nobody, hurry up, hurry up.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Nobody told you to pick up that girl from Blind Barber Saturday night. And then, like, nobody told you to do that. Now you're going to come here and rush me. We're having fun. Me and Jomi and Kerm and a little. We just ordered breakfast. This is my cool for all of Wednesday. We're going to spend me and my friends are here together.
Starting point is 00:08:51 I just get down on the friend circle. Yeah. You should have been here with us to eat a burrito. Actually, that's the worst thing for you, right? The worst thing to do it. Set it to his house. Okay, Charles is seriously not feeling well, so we have to get into it. I have to go.
Starting point is 00:09:07 But on today's show, we've had enough. after the latest spat of cancellations in the Midnight Boys have decided to go back in time and resurrect some of TV's greatest fandom shows that should have gotten a second chance. Jummi, what's the name of this? Midnight Resurrection. What's your favorite resurrection?
Starting point is 00:09:28 My favorite resurrection? Well, some would say Jesus Christ. I knew you were going to say Jesus. Others might say Agent Colson and Ages is Hill. Charles, what's your favorite? Favorite resurrection? Favorite resurrection. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:09:44 You know, got to go with the classic. Superman coming back to life. Superman coming back is a good one. Let me tell you why. I like a Jesus involved resurrection, but not his resurrection himself. That's actually a cold resurrection.
Starting point is 00:09:55 That's dope. It's fire. Because you're doing it for yourself. You're calling your own number. But when Jesus resurrected Lazarus, bro, think about how people was looking around that time. Jesus, Lazarus! Rise.
Starting point is 00:10:11 When he just dead through that? Oh, my gosh. Bro, there's another resurrection that's dope, too, though, real quick. Franklin Richards Reserrecting Galactus. Rise! To me, my Galactus, boy. Boy, I love.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Matrix. Matrix Resurrections doesn't get in there. Doesn't get a top three spot. It's not. No. No. Let's get to the show. Okay. Spoiler warning for all.
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Starting point is 00:12:16 Your next obsession is waiting. Watch only on Prime. All right, Midnight Resurrection's last episode, we discussed the cancellation of the Acolyte, which follows a trend of fandom shows getting canceled after one or two seasons. So the Midnight Boys have decided to discuss the television shows that either deserved a second chance or should continue where they left off a la X-Men 97. We each get four picks, and unlike our drafts, we're allowed some overlap. here who wants to start us off.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Yomi, you want to go? I'll go first. Because you got so many different shows. All right. Well, that's, that was rude. Yeah, Jomey, this is really your episode. This is really your episode to cook, Jomey. This is Jomey's grievances.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Jomey's grievances. Well, I'm going to start off with the classic. You know, I can only be me. Young Justice, season five, baby. Let's make it happen. Let's go. No. Just me?
Starting point is 00:13:05 No, young justice doesn't count. Young justice already got resurrected once. And we're bringing it back again, dog. You know what I'm saying? You know, like, all right, no, no, no, pick another. All right, we got established some rules. If the show already got resurrected once, you can't resurrect that motherfucker twice. Come on now, like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:21 You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like, you get one one up, you know what I mean? You can get two and Mario, you feel me? Like, kind of feel like it's fine, right? All right, if we got to, if we got to go with another one. No, pick Young Justice, that's fine. Resurrection something twice is insane. It is, where's the thing, right?
Starting point is 00:13:38 How long do you want to run? Well, the thing, I was going to say this, Greg Wiseman, the creator has said, it could go on forever. It'd go 12 seasons, whichever. He's always got a story to tell the universe.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Well, obviously that nigga is going to say that. Yeah. It's his show. Like, who's going to say? Well, some people are like, we have like eight seasons
Starting point is 00:13:59 or we have five seasons. Like, succession. After season four, they're like, hey, that's it. We're done. This is the only story we have. He's like, bro, we could just keep cooking on this thing.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I mean? And I think it'd be really fun. I think part of, why I'm attached to this show is the main six characters. Like, specifically, and this was what I was going to like, if I had to do with season five, I would pitch like a season one and a half in terms of, so there's this big gap of time. There's five years in between season one and season two.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And the characters grow and they change. We don't see that on screen, right? And while I enjoy the characters getting to grow, you know, Robin becoming nightwing, the entire thing, I love to see the main six characters. go through that five-year journey, you know? And so while, yes, it did get resurrected already, I also kind of feel like, hey, there's obviously lots of still in the universe, man. Like, what's the problem to keep going?
Starting point is 00:14:56 It's good. I mean, look, I've never, I've watched a little bit of the show. Too much pluck. It's plucky. It's plucky, yeah. But I do like the fact that every once in a while you see like the OG Justice League in there, and sometimes they have to do with it. But it's very plucky.
Starting point is 00:15:11 It's super plucky. And I don't like Aquilat. What? I'm like, What's from Al-Qua-Lad? See, my homies, what's your own with Aqualad? They were like,
Starting point is 00:15:18 yo, it's Aqualad, man. He's black. And I was like, all right, bro, he's just going to make, like, Aquaman's side I kicked black. I'm not really like a lot of,
Starting point is 00:15:25 you know, young queer black superheroes. And he's great. Aqualette is awesome. But you guys know, I don't like young superheroes. Yes. I don't like kids Superman,
Starting point is 00:15:34 young Hawkeye. Yeah, Superboy? Who's kids super? I don't like it. Wait, what's the point? I like the dog.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Hold on. Let me tell you something. The dog over the dog, man? Crypto. Wow. I like the dog more. How about this? Fucking underline it.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I like crypto to super dog. Better than I like any of them. That includes any of them. I like the dog. The dog is fun. He's a fun dog. He's got superpowers. He was on Titans.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I'm going to go next. And this one is going to be a little bit controversial. Okay. Lovecraft Country. Hmm Okay No no you you talk Land this plane man
Starting point is 00:16:16 You speak Land this plane You got it Okay so Lovecraft Country Was a great Bleck The Bleck penta
Starting point is 00:16:25 Sci-fi show that came on HBO It starred Journey Smollett Yes And Jonathan Majors Okay It was based on Lovecraftian
Starting point is 00:16:37 monsters and lore and all of that stuff to be lovecraft it's great it was ambitious it was well acted the chemistry between the two leads was fantastic and it was not renewed
Starting point is 00:16:51 it wasn't renewed for a couple of different reasons now in the wake of everything that Jonathan Majors has gone through obviously bringing Lovecraft country back would be slightly controversial however there was So much good in the show.
Starting point is 00:17:09 I thought the show at times got a little wonky, but it was the first season and it was still finding its narrative and it was more than enough wonder, awe and execution there for it to come back. I was very disappointed. Didn't come back for a second season. I would love to see a second season of Lovecraft Country despite everything that Jonathan Majors has been through recently.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Would you, here's the thing. Would you bring Jonathan Majors back? Yes. Interesting. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe tight. I can't.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I mean, they probably wouldn't. Look, here's a thing, guys. They probably wouldn't, though. They probably wouldn't, though. But here's the thing. I am different. Clearly. I personally don't see any reason why.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Any reason why. At this point, Jonathan Majors should not be able to resume his career and continue acting and continue acting. and continue as a contributor to the arts. I don't see any reason. Like, particularly if someone takes accountability,
Starting point is 00:18:23 if someone understands the gravity of the situations they've been in. And I'm not necessarily saying Jonathan Majors has done that. There would be some people that say maybe he hasn't done that. but I'm saying if that is done with everything that came out and the way that things ended up, I don't think that Jonathan Major's career should be given the death penalty.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I really don't. What's your pick, Charles? Hey, casual question. How do you guys expect to be good podcasters? It's like, it's interesting. Like, you guys are so pussy. This is a mean way.
Starting point is 00:19:05 You know, Jonathan, Like, how do you guys are going to be good podcasts? I'm fucking fine. All right, we'll put down it. All right. Everything we try to bring back the most. Y'all is so fucking scared.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Like, what the fuck? All right, so I'm bringing back a way less fraught show. I just don't get it, man. My first choice, I think it's probably one of my favorite animated superhero shows of all time, Justice League Unlimited.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I think honestly, if you brought it back in the same way they did X-Men 97, just continue where it left off. That's something. It's still on Netflix. It's something that when I just need something on in the background, I turn on. And to me, it is probably one of the few Justice League stories in TV or movies that I feel like they've gotten right. Like, I feel like the problem with the Justice League is they're always too powerful. So it's hard for you to make a story where it's like,
Starting point is 00:20:05 who's going to stop them? And I think Justice League, Unlimited, did a good job of being like, no, the interesting thing is these characters having to interact, where it's like Plastic Man has to interact with Batman and Superman, or Green Lantern has to interact with the question.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And honestly, if they were going to do a Justice League, the DCEU was going to do a Justice League movie, I would hope that, like, James Gunn would continue the trend of, let's put some lesser known heroes on the Justice League because trying to get Superman Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern Flash, Aquaman, and whoever the set of one is right on screen can be very difficult.
Starting point is 00:20:46 So my first pick would be Justice League. It's interesting. It only had 39 episodes. I don't know why as a kid, I thought that thing was going on like all the time. But only at 39, that's a good pick. I honestly thought I had more. But because do you remember the Justice League show before Unlimited?
Starting point is 00:21:02 Yes. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think that's why we think it was like longer than it was, but Unlimited is way better than the original OGs. Never liked anyone who doesn't like that show. Everybody, it's the show managed to achieve, which is another reason why it's interesting that there's only 39 episodes,
Starting point is 00:21:23 a certain ubiquity during that time. Everyone kind of knew it. I think John Stewart as the Black Green Laner, was you just call him Green Lantern but he's black Green Lantern He's just the Green Lantern. He's just Black Green Lantern. He's just the Green Lantern. Do you call Hal Jordan white Green Lantern? So this is an important thing.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Okay. Because you guys think that you have me in the figure four leg lock of logic right now. But let me let me explain something to you. Okay. Okay. Okay. The entire thought there was that John Stewart as the as a black green lantern was one of the main reasons
Starting point is 00:22:05 that people were intrigued by the show. It gave them a new depiction that they hadn't seen before. So in this particular case, the fact that John Stewart was the Black Green Lantern made people curious. The Blick.
Starting point is 00:22:20 The blick. The bleak. The bleak green lantern. It made people curious about the show in a specific way. And to Charles's point, which he said a second ago, it wasn't just the same old heroes that you were used to. It was like a different take on some of the heroes and people were interested in that.
Starting point is 00:22:38 So while you guys are jumping out of your pants, Charles's soiled pants, to be like to be woke. There was a point to what I was saying. All right, before we move on, what was our feelings on John Stewart and Hawk Girl? I don't know if I ever fucked with him. You didn't think that were, they, they, that, you didn't think that worked? for you? No, it was just, it was the infighting. Once Hawkman was in the shit, I was like, John, you could do that. Like, come on, bro. I mean, like, on a rewatch during, during the panty, that was like one of the parts of the show that I was like, that you completely miss as a kid.
Starting point is 00:23:15 You're not like really thinking about that. You're like, yo, when did the superheroes get to fight the bad guys, whatever? Rewatch, I was like, oh, yeah, John Stewart had it like that. He was putting on for the, let's go. You know what I mean? Shout out. What's up? He was putting on for what? He was putting on for the niggas. What? that's why you like John Stewart, Joe? He's doing his thing. He's doing his thing. I ain't mad at him.
Starting point is 00:23:36 But you never felt that way about how old Jordan, because it's different because he's the black, green laner. Why y'all doing this thing? All right. Yo, Joe, Jome, you're up next. I'm going with something that, like, I think, I don't even know if anybody under the sound of my breath was watch this show. Because CW pulled it.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Like, this last year episodes didn't even air. I don't think. Powerless. Never heard of it. Exactly. Oh, Powerless. I heard of Powerless. Powerless.
Starting point is 00:24:09 It was a C.W. Show. It starred. The Black guy? The Black guy was on the show? Ron Funches. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Danny Pouty, Alan Tudick.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And it was basically, like, they were a superhero insurance thing. So, like, when Gotham gets ruined or Metropolis gets ruined, they come in and do, like, the cleanup and handle all the business. and it was out of there as soon as it got there. Nobody watched it, nobody messed with it. And I think, like, this is, like, right? Like, I think, like, 2017. I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:24:41 So, like, we're, like, getting into, like, superheroes, like, um, Gary Devil, all that, all that, all that, John, all that nice stuff. And it just completely went over everybody's heads, got canceled immediately. Kind of feel like in 2024, you know, like a superhero comedy. We don't really get those. I know we've had She Hulk more recently,
Starting point is 00:24:59 but, all superhero stuff is mainly serious and mainly like, ah, we got to save the world and this and that. But like a superhero workplace comedy is hilarious. And with a little fine tooling,
Starting point is 00:25:10 I think we could have had something special. So let's bring it back. Now, was this superhero universe set in a universe that we know? Yeah, it was D.C. It was D.C. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Alan Tuduk was like Bruce Swain's cousin or something. So I had this this idea for a superhero show that was basically, it was called, apartment 503. And it was basically like a friends or a living single set in the Marvel universe.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Okay. So like you're on your way to work, but you got held up at work because Thor was fighting, but it's a single camera sitcom. And so like you get held up at work because Thor was fighting some kind of multiversal demon. And it's all of that stuff. It's about the regular lives of. of people in like this universe. Like two of the characters are in love,
Starting point is 00:26:05 but then one of them is dating, I don't know, like Tony Stark or Hawkeye or somebody like that. And he's trying to like, it's like a, but like a regular episode where they all go to a funeral because one of their homies died in Cicobia or some shit. I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:26:22 but but they're just regular people that live in this world. And it's, New York City. New York City, it's single camera, but maybe one of them works at Stark Industries, maybe one of them works at the Baxter Building or something like that. I like stuff like that. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:26:39 It's just like, yeah, I got a day with Black Widow on Friday, man. What do I wear? You know what I mean? Or kind of. Or something like that. It's like I thought it would be funny, but every time I would try to soft pitch it and these people would be like, that fucking shut out of here. Like, we don't want to make that.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Get that fucking shit out. Like, does one of them get powers? No, they never get powers. We don't want to, we don't want to. But I'm like, you get to have cool guest stars. Like, Spider-Man would pop in and different people will pop in and all kinds of different stuff. You'd have to, it would be cool, but you'd have to grind. No, we don't want to.
Starting point is 00:27:17 That's a stupid idea. You're stupid. And so, I don't think they said that. That's the kind of thing that they say. No. When you get to know the studio people? Wow. They go, hey, I got notes one time, and the notes was like,
Starting point is 00:27:29 hey this is the main note this is bad what I won't tell you from which studio cook you like hey tough main note this is bad
Starting point is 00:27:39 second note you have talent though hey you came out on top wait why did they lead with the second one dialogue
Starting point is 00:27:50 great this idea too much okay I mean I'm I'm in for stuff like that I do think that maybe right now things are a little too saturated for it.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Probably. Well, I mean, even in 2017, right? It was like there was even a lot going on then with the Netflix shows and things like that. So, like, maybe in 2024 might be cooked. But I think, you know, maybe not taking a superhero property all that seriously could be fun.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I'd like to see it. All right. Another controversial choice for me that you guys are really, really, really, really, really going to hate. And maybe they're going to do it. There's been talk that they're going to do it. HBO Watchman's season two.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I mean, well, it's not that controversial. I mean, a lot of people, a lot of people think, oh, it's a perfect story. They told a perfect story. Leave it alone. Leave it alone. Leave it alone. There's only one thing that's better than Kyle Bell.
Starting point is 00:28:46 More Cowbell. More Cowbell. I'm talking, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. I'm talking fucking Mississippi State. I'm talking about Cowbell, baby. You're talking about Sacramento? I'm talking about the kings. I'm talking about that's what my whole thing is.
Starting point is 00:29:05 I want fucking Kyle Bill. Give me more. I'm actually going to try to get the Roberts Rebellion movie. Like, give me more. Just give me more, more, more, more. Wait, so you would rather Lindelof do watch him in season two than the lantern show? That's a good question. I would probably rather him do the lantern show.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Okay, but if you had a second one superhero thing lined up, you're saying Watchman's Season 2 easy. So here's the thing. Here's a problem is that I don't think Watchman's season two would involve Linda Lof. I don't think that he would come back to do it. I think he's been pretty clear about that. Jeff, Cord do it? Cork could do it.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Like, I was talking to court, like, Core could do it. Cork wrote one of the best episodes. Do you think Corden would want to do season two? Probably not. But like it, but what I'm saying is they created such a. an awesome world. I just want more out of the world. I thought the show was sublime. I thought it was amazing.
Starting point is 00:30:05 I thought giving Regina the chance to be there and be in that world and be sister night. I thought it was great. I would love to see a season two from Washington. I know that a lot people don't agree, but I would love to see a season two. I mean, I think it just ended on a perfect note. You're not wrong. Yeah, with
Starting point is 00:30:23 Regina, like, stepping out. Does she have Dr. Manhattan's powers? And it cuts and we're left to wonder. And I think, I I think obviously it would be nice to know the answer to that, but at the end of the day, I think that not knowing that level uncertainty, it was a perfect ending to the series. And so I don't mind it, but I mean, it would be fun to see. Do you think she had his powers? No. Oh, you don't think she did?
Starting point is 00:30:44 I think she stepped on the water and just fell through. See, that's a great fucking, to open the season, she steps into the water and she falls straight into the water. But little does she know she actually does have this power. But it takes a little time for them to manifest and they manifest throughout an entire season. They fuck with her psychologically. All of this stuff like that would be so fucking awesome, man. Give us the cowbell.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Why are we going away from things that we know where, you know? People are, right. People like Charles Rangers. Probably another controversial pick. We're already doing Daredevil Born Again. Okay. The only way I would want this series is we just need heroes for hire.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Luke Cage, Iron Fist. Recast, Finn Jones. Don't explain it. Aunt Vivim. Like, just like, just give us a new white boy. Do not explain it. But I do feel like the one thing that I was always pissed about with like Luke Cage and the defenders and Iron Fiss. I was like, why don't you just do Heroes for Hire?
Starting point is 00:31:47 Just put Luke Cage, Iron Fist in the fucking same show. It works. Make it a buddy comedy. And I think that like they just canceled what's a, what was his other show? Evil? Evil. No, evil. No, evil.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Even came to an end on Paramount. Yeah. Yeah, so we got some time. So I'm like, yo, I think they could do a nice hero spire series. Here's the thing. So I thought you're going to pitch Iron Fis Season 2, which is basically what you're doing. Or Iron Fisd Season 3, sorry, which is basically what you're doing. The Finjo-
Starting point is 00:32:17 I just got two seasons? It got two seasons. Here's the thing about, here's the thing. Iron Fid Season 2? Also ass. But, like, not the worst thing I've ever. ever seen, right? It's not great, but season one is legitimately, like,
Starting point is 00:32:33 some of the worst television I've ever seen in my entire life. But Luke Kate's season one, pretty good. The first half is, like, legitimately, like, special TV. It fell off a little bit when they lost rehearsal as character, although, from what I understand, that was always the plan. I mean, the creator talked about it on Twitter, like a recent thread. Yeah, it was like, that was the plan. Mercer had, like, other things going on.
Starting point is 00:32:55 It was cooked in. While it did lose momentum, you're right? the first season was pretty good, but that's like first couple episodes, Marcia, the second season of Luke Cage is not bad. Not bad at all. It's just like not as great as the first season was.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Luke Cage is a good show. Do you think, though, that in the Disney Plus system, kind of just then maybe getting a handle on Daredevil, hopefully, that they could bring back like a Jessica Jones or bring back a Luke Cage? In the show.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I'm, like, I don't think that's confirmed, but like, there's like, they're all like they post photos together and they're hanging out and it's like what does that mean? What do you mean by that? I think like there's a chance that
Starting point is 00:33:35 they do show up in the show. I mean, we're being honest. The Netflix shows on their average have been better than most of the those shows. We can try to act like those shows were fucking insanely successful when they first came out.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Like as both as Netflix shows and as cultural talk pieces. People were talking about Charlie Gibson and his daredevil was really, really incredibly successful for Netflix. And it just, they never really
Starting point is 00:34:06 figured out a way to truly integrate the Daredevil Netflix universe into the MCU even though they were like, hey, this is after the incident and all of that stuff. They never really found a real way. But those shows were very successful. They had to have very successful little universe going on. Yeah, and like Daredevil Born and again is like 18
Starting point is 00:34:22 episodes. So I kind of feel like there's no way for Luke King. Judge Jessica Jones or maybe like a recasted Iron Fist to like show up at one point. They got Wilson Fisbeck. Fiskey. Right? Wait, how are we going to cover? How are we going to cover board again?
Starting point is 00:34:36 We cannot do 18 weeks straight. 18 weeks straight, baby. Lock in. 18 straight. Hey, we've been on this podcast asking for Real TV to come back. 22 episode, 22 episode seasons, not taking year off. We got to lock in. 18, Charles.
Starting point is 00:34:51 That number's got to mean something to you. Come on. It doesn't mean anything to Josh Giddy, but it's got to mean something to you. Why? Jesus Christ. Why would you? Why? Why is my question. It's a very well-known story from... Jesus Christ. It's a well-known story.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Kerm, you got that joke. Did you? Did you not? No. See? Kerm, how was your birthday? My birthday was pretty good. Thanks for asking. What did you do? We went to a barcade, and then on my actual birthday, I got dinner. Did you have a donut? I actually had a donut.
Starting point is 00:35:26 yesterday, but unrelated. I can tell. Jesus. All right, Jomey, is it back to you? Apollish. What does that even mean? Wait, yo. What?
Starting point is 00:35:36 There's nothing. I was saying, I could tell he ain't. Why are y'all looking at me like that? I'm just saying, I could tell he had a. Why are you? What are you in this podcast? No, first of all, Kerm, that nigger Kerm. Swole.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah, but what are we doing? We're not allowed to eat donuts? Your Kerm is in good shape. You'll see Kerm, Kerm, like a little linebacker. Curr, like, Kermit, good shape, man. And all I'm just saying, he was like he had a donut. He was like, I could tell the sugar. First of all, there's nothing negative about that.
Starting point is 00:36:05 You guys are making that into something. I don't know, man. Finish that. Is it negative to look at somebody and say, you look like you had a donut? Absolutely. What is it? Arjuna, hold on. Arjuna, jump in.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Is it negative to say somebody? Don't bring the manager on to the podcast. It is. Arjuna, is it negative to say it? That is negative. That is negative. What? negative about that.
Starting point is 00:36:27 I want the audience. No, no, no, fuck this, man. I'm not giving up on this one. I want the audience.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I would. I want the audience. Please give a negative. Please give a punishment. Is it negative? To look at somebody and go, you look like you had a donut. Here's,
Starting point is 00:36:42 Eddie, you got a negative. Vad, you got to think about it. Imagine it's Thanksgiving. You're on all your family. I've seen in a minute. And they come in,
Starting point is 00:36:51 they're like, hey, how's everybody doing? Your Auntie, look at you like, it looked like you had a donut. That's crazy. Okay, that's a different situation. That's what's the difference?
Starting point is 00:36:59 Because, because would you go to Rachel? Would you go to Rachel and be like, you look like you had a donut? I definitely would. But, like, Rachel, Rachel eats, I don't know if you guys know, but Rachel's a pork at it.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Rachel, all Rachel, O'Brien knows this, like Rachel's a pork at it. Rachel looks like a pork shop eater. She looks like she just had fresh pork. Jesus Christ. Every single. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:37:26 But hold on, but wait, but wait, but wait, hold on real quick. Joni picked a time when someone always tells you your fact, which is at family gatherings, which I don't know what's wrong with older black people. I don't know what's wrong with that. They got to let you know. Boy, goddamn, you didn't got some big. I'm going to get in a room.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I'm going to go listen to Nirvana. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, go in there with the rest of the old people. I'm going to go listen to lithium because you, I'm depressed now. What the fuck is wrong with you? Oh, that's good. Are we, are we, okay, Kramm, I apologize. I was like, it's done.
Starting point is 00:38:04 He apologized. He's done. It's over. It's over. It's over. It's over. It's over. It's over.
Starting point is 00:38:08 It's over. It's over. It's over. You had to enjoy the donut. I want the audience to weigh in on the donut gate. They're going to disagree with you. Jovee, what's your third pick? My third pick, real quick.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Powerless was on NBC, not the CW, but it looked like a CW show. So, you know, that's probably why I got canceled. NBC. NBC, dog. NBC. I don't fucking have a E. That was actually, I was actually wondering
Starting point is 00:38:33 if Vanessa Hudgens would do see W. She did. She did. It was NBC. In W. Oh, I think I've seen clips from this show, though.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Okay. Like there were clips where I think I saw clips. Anyway, go ahead. So my third pick, this is a classic, Jemmy. We're not even going to get by it.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Agent Carter, man. Bring Agent Carter back, man. I got two seasons on ABC. the first season was really good, really good. Shout out Chad Michael Murray, Shea Wiggum as Agent Dooley. That went hard, you know what I mean? Season two, it's a little mixed baggy.
Starting point is 00:39:09 You know what I mean? It wasn't one the greatest thing I've ever seen. However, I thought it was fun enough and good enough. I mean, Agent Carter been in the MCU for how long now. It's always coming back. What if Dr. Strange, Multiverse Madness. Locker Sin.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Agent Carter's Season 3, man. Who's down? I'm down. You couldn't pay me to watch Agent Carlin. I never saw it. Nobody watched it. It's fine. That was one of those shows, man.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Because they would air like during the break between the agent shield or agents of Shield like winter break. And so I would be like in, I'd be in college like doing winter classes or whatever working and just be like, yo, it's Tuesday, 9 o'clock. And Jack to Tar, I'm and I was the only person on the TL talking about it. It was really just me. So I understand that none of you would have would have tapped in. But it was some good drama, man.
Starting point is 00:40:00 The show was really, really interesting. All right, can I ask this? Go for. Controversial question. Does the M. Does Marvel Comics have enough good women superheroes? Or is the MCU just obsessed with giving shows and movies to like the most boring women superheroes? I'm going to need you to explain that.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Agent Carter. Agatha. Like these are characters where I'm just like, really? Like this is, even Black Widow to a certain extent. I understand she's like an Avenger,
Starting point is 00:40:34 but like Black Widow, there's not a lot of people who go into a comic store and be like, dog, I can't wait to pick up some Black Widow. You know,
Starting point is 00:40:41 She Hulk makes sense. She Hulk has fans. I guess the other Marvel women superheroes are tied up like the best ones. Like most of the best ones are X-Men, so they were already tied up.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Oh, you just answered your own. Oh, you just answered your own. question. Look how that worked out. No, I was just, wait, but which ones could they have used that weren't like hmm? Would you would probably watch a storm show? The bench is bad, because I can't use Spider Woman.
Starting point is 00:41:06 You will probably watch a storm show. You will probably watch a Gene Gray show. There's, there's... Outside of the X-Men, though. I mean, outside of the X-Men, I mean, Claremont really cared about developing female superheroes. Like, I guess the question would be
Starting point is 00:41:21 is, uh, they try Captain Marvel, right? Captain Marvel was a big female superhero that they had been making a push for in the comics in the last 15, 20 years. She's been around for a very, very long time. Rogue is a big deal. A lot of those female characters are coming from X-Men lore.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Scarlet Witch, all of these people, they're a big deal, but they're kind of tied up. I would say that it's not really necessarily a problem that only the women have, I would say that even the second generation of the male characters, right, are just not as
Starting point is 00:42:01 interesting. You know, like, I would say that Shang Shi is not quite as interesting as Black Panther. I would say that the Eternals are not quite as interesting as the Avengers. Like, a lot of this exists in that way.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Now, there are also characters that have made a push recently in the comics that you'd have to get right in live action like Miss Marvel and it kind of didn't get her right although I think the performance I think they did get the character right maybe the show
Starting point is 00:42:31 yeah the performance is fantastic done well the TV show right and movie less so right so I think you know and something with the Agatha show is that just Marvel saying hey we can take somebody that comes from our lore and making a good show about but all of the heavy hitters that you're talking about
Starting point is 00:42:48 to be honest with you they're tied up well I mean we got they're either vision right and they're either X-Men or like the other problem with Marvel is like all of the women characters nine times out of ten if they're not on a team it's like spider woman or she Hulk it's like they're connected so it's like you have to basically introduce the male version first most of the time to be like all right how is she Hulk going to make sense unless Hulk exists you know what I mean yeah yeah I mean that's fair I think the thing like uh I enjoyed a lot about Indy Carter was the espionage stuff and and while it's again again again, like, it's not, nobody was locked in. I was like, yeah, I'm going to watch Agent Carter show. I think for me personally, like, bringing it back to Agent's Shield, got to get this agenda off, like having those universes come together. And because we don't get Asians and Shield any, like, any mentions after the Avengers.
Starting point is 00:43:41 That's done with. That's over with, right? Right. I guess after the Winter Soldier, they don't bring up a shield anymore, right? But having like that tie in, having those connections, they brought Susa back. All my Agent Carter fans, y'all know, they brought Susan back for season seven, Agent Shield. I don't want to talk about the relationship with him and Daisy. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:01 But, you know, having those universe together, that worked for me. So I tap in. I'd watch it again. All right, Van, what's your third pick? Fringe. Ooh. Deep fucking cut. I don't think it's that.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Fringe. People love Fringe. Right now, I think Fringe would go so fucking hard. Now, Fringe was on for a while. Yes. I think Friends ran Five seasons It's on Fox
Starting point is 00:44:27 It's on Fox It might have been five seasons You guys One of the most significant occurrences to me In the history of television Was the 08 or 09 Or whatever it was
Starting point is 00:44:43 Or was it the 2010 Which rider strike was it? Can I remember? The rider strike that happened Around that time That's significantly altered the momentum of so many good shows and good ideas.
Starting point is 00:45:01 There was a little movement that was happening right there, and then the writer's strike changed everything, took things a little while to get rolling again. Fringe was great talent on the show, great talent, Joshua Jackson, you know what I mean? The leads name is, she's very,
Starting point is 00:45:21 no, not Sarah Pollan. Anatov. Anatov. Anatov. Canadian actress, great. I just confused my white women. But like a fantastic show, great show, right? Lance Reddick on it. A lot of HBO recipes, Lance Reddick, a lot of HBO names that you see that would come and go.
Starting point is 00:45:42 You had, Spock was on the show. Leonard Nimoy. Leonard Nimoy. Yeah, Lenin Neymoy was on the show. He was on the show. He played William. So massive dynamic was the company That was behind all of the crazy stuff that was going on in the world
Starting point is 00:46:00 And Joshua Jackson's dad on the show Dr. Dr. Joshua Jackson's name was Peter His dad's name was I can't remember anyway But he had starred this company And then this guy was hiding out in another dimension Everything was building up to this massive huge thing And the show kind of lost steam because of everything that was going on and stuff But like even right now the world is so better
Starting point is 00:46:23 primed for fringe to come back now fringe fringe man now well whoa whoa but fringe was coming out at a time when we were not assaulted by fucking so much multiversal shit do you feel like if fringe came back now people were like not another multiversal fucking story perhaps however
Starting point is 00:46:43 I think that fringe did lowercase multiversal stuff and not capital multiversal stuff explain fringe on a show to show basis was a little bit more akin to like the X-Files. Now, everything was happening because of the world that Fringe existed in, but fringe division was essentially investigating weird and kooky and quirky things that would happen.
Starting point is 00:47:09 It would always tie back to massive dynamic, but there were times when the story became directly about what was going on. They were all in another world. There was a different version of the characters and all of that stuff. But it wasn't strictly a multiversal story. I think that fringe could exist in this in this world. I really do. French.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Bring back fringe. I'm not really a... All right. My choice, I think this is, I would want this to get the X-Men 97 treatment in terms of just like just starting where you left off. I was a big fan of Batman Beyond. Like I like, I don't want to resurrect Batman the animated series.
Starting point is 00:47:44 I think that's like a perfect series. I'm like, leave it alone. Batman Beyond was one where I was just like, I like it, Terry McGinnis, future fucking Batman. They did some weird shit. Injustice League Unlimited where they were like Bruce Wayne your Bruce Wayne's son actually
Starting point is 00:47:59 but the sperm went into your father his spray it was just like some weird as shit they should just retcon all of that out Batman Beyond make it less weird Hearing it like that is nuts Whoa that's right Wait did you guys do not remember that episode
Starting point is 00:48:15 I do remember but no they weren't like They didn't say sperm on the episode man You know what I mean I never watched this Well like what like I never watched this show My understanding is... You don't remember the Justice League Unlimited episode where they revealed that Terry McGinnis from Batman Beyond, essentially, if I'm remembering this correctly, his father had sex with his mother, but had Bruce Wayne's sperm.
Starting point is 00:48:39 So technically, he was Bruce Wayne's child. I don't know why he keeps saying sperm, but like, somebody's... Explain this to me. So Amanda Waller, Amanda Waller essentially put Bruce Wayne's DNA into Terry McGinnis's dad. So Terry McGinnis, his dad, DNA-wise, is Bruce Wayne, essentially. Yes, which I understood as a child. But when you come in here and say he put a sperm in, I'm like, oh, that's not what they said at all. What is sperm?
Starting point is 00:49:08 But not fucking a cluster of DNA. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying you're uncomfortable with it. I'm not saying I'm uncomfortable. That's not how they explain it to me in the show. Right? When I'm watching the show. Essentially, though, in order to get the DNA.
Starting point is 00:49:22 I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm not disagree with him. Terry McGinnis. That was just a nuts thing to say. The dad to the thing is literally nuts to say. But yeah. How was it nuts? How was sperm nuts?
Starting point is 00:49:32 sperm is nuts. sperm is nuts. But let me ask you a question. What's the deal, Jomey? It's still deal. Jomi, seriously, bro. Like, it's their sperm. Okay, yes.
Starting point is 00:49:43 And the sperm is the use, like, what's wrong, Jome? Why are you so uncomfortable? I'm at work. This is my job. Did it happen in the show? It did happen in the show. But it didn't happen. Sperm, you could have used his DNA.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Like Kerm did. Kerm did it in a way that, like, makes sense. People and people who watch it, like, yeah, that makes sense. I was a child. I wasn't thinking about sperm. Jermy, when I was 12. Jummi, say the word vagina. Vagina.
Starting point is 00:50:07 How's that feel? It's a word. It feels liberating, doesn't it? Oh, my God. Well, yeah. Anyway, so you want that show to come back. Is Terry McGinnis the old Batman? Batman?
Starting point is 00:50:23 Does Terry McGinnis become like the old Bruce Wayne and then there's this new kid, Larry Go Lucky? Oh, no, we're not fucking doing that. It's just the continuing adventures of Terry McGinnis as the future fucking Batman. Like that's the same thing I was in that show, like an older Bruce Wayne. He's like, uh, he used the gun one time. He was like, I can't do it no more. I got to.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Oh, that was the funniest shit where he picked up the blicky once and he's like, I don't deserve to be Batman. Can't do it. Can't do it. It's over. It's over. I watched Dark Night Riot. this weekend. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Good though. I gotta be honest with you, man. It's a little long. It's a little long, but the Dark Night Rises is, the Dark Night Rises hits, man. It's a movie that I think when it first came out,
Starting point is 00:51:11 people responded comparing it to the Dark Night, but that movie has aged like wine. It's a good film. It's a really good film. I think I'd probably put it too in the trilogy
Starting point is 00:51:23 when I'm when I'm ringing them It's easily two in the trilogy I mean honestly I don't know if it's easily to I used to think Batman McGins was too and maybe now I'm thinking I have to watch Batman Begins I used to think Batman Begins was two
Starting point is 00:51:34 It's not easily too Batman Begins is good You don't like it You don't like you don't want Batman Begins I think Tom Hardy's being to me is way more fascinating and interesting
Starting point is 00:51:44 than Killion Murphy's scarecrow Okay I mean I know Scarrow is not the villain of Batman Begins He's one of the villains He's one of the villains, but I wouldn't compare out
Starting point is 00:51:57 You'd have to say between him and Raz al-Gul Rage-A-Rash Rish? Rish. Is it Rase-Rash? Is it Rase or Rage? Huh? Depends on who's Rage. Because in the movie it's Rage, but I've said Razz Al-Gul for my entire race.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Well, in the movie is Rage, but I think in Young Justice, it's Rosh, and it's like, all right, cool, man. We just, who cares at this point? You know what I mean? I still, Bain is more entertaining than Raz Raz Rage. But I will say, the beginning of Batman begins
Starting point is 00:52:23 when that motherfucker goes to the League of Assassins is some of the fucking great. Why don't we rewatched this? So we ordered food, okay. And our food is here, and a nigga literally just put our food on the street. Can we send somebody down to go get the food, please?
Starting point is 00:52:47 I'm not fucking bullshit. No, it's in the street. You got a screenshot that. You can just literally put off. I'm reporting that. I'm getting a free nail on that. Because what do you mean? Just literally put our food in the street.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Like, it's a picture of a bag. The bag is in the middle of the street. That is kind of nuts. Did you leave him instructions on wear it up? I did, leave him instructions. He said, fuck it. Damn. He literally didn't even get out the car.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I'm getting paid either way. He just tossed that shit in the road. They'll find it. Man. Hey, he's doing this thing. All right, Jomey, last pick. My last pick. I'm debating, but you know what?
Starting point is 00:53:31 I'm just going to go with, I don't know if it's a classic Jomi, but this is a show that is honestly one of the better animated shows of the 21st century and the fact that the story didn't get to finish, honestly, his tragedy. This is the Greg Wiseman curse, I guess.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Spectacular Spider-Man. Y'all, y'all didn't, you know, that's not a lot of it. I don't know. I watched, animated shit. I watched Spectacular Spider-Man. People are going to kill me for this. I was like, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:54:00 That didn't move you, Spokaneus, Sparta Man? What? I mean, so did the 90 Spider-Man movie? All right, so here's the thing. Maybe Van you'll agree with me. Did you get to a point when it's like when you're in high school where it's like the animated superheroes? You could like, I can like watch them and be like, this is cool. But there was a level of like, I was just on different shit.
Starting point is 00:54:21 That's not me saying the show was bad. Yeah. It was just I already had my Spider-Man show. So I was like, why do I need another one? They start, it started to become a little bit, because I'll watch them when I catch them. But it was like, it was X-Men Evolution. It was Wolverine and X-Men.
Starting point is 00:54:37 It was like a bunch of different shows. And I started to have trouble keeping up with everything. X-Men Evolution is a good one, too. X-Men Evolution was good. Here's the thing, Jomey, to your point, a certain generation loves spectacular Spider-Bad. Like, they are like, it is injustice of our age. That shit got canceled.
Starting point is 00:54:54 I was I the theme spectacular spectacular but it man and like and y'all know me man like so we talked about this
Starting point is 00:55:05 in the group chat they told you know they asked the 10 year old to the 10 to 24 year olds is there too much sex is there too much romance in TV and they're like yes I don't know why you're asking
Starting point is 00:55:16 10 year olds at but that was crazy you're really mad about that but that's not the point the the the you put this in the chat oh yeah the they asking, wait, were they asking
Starting point is 00:55:26 Gen Alpha. Yeah. Like 10 to 24 year olds, I think. I don't think they were asking 10 year olds, I don't think it was 10 year olds. No, no, no. The age, that's what the thing. Look it up. Like 10 to 24. Anyway, what I'm saying is, I think that your generation and like right around
Starting point is 00:55:42 your generation, you guys are trying to take the sex out of movies, the sex and the nudity. I mean, I don't, I mean, sex, I don't really feel any two ways about it. I think I think it's weird that people are saying there's too much sex, which is like, It's usually like for a plot reason, right? They're not just showing gratuitous sex just for like, all right.
Starting point is 00:56:00 That's not how we used to do it in the 80s and the 90s. I think today, I think today it's just like. In the 80s and the 90s, like a pair of tities would just pop up on the screen for no reason. Okay. Like for no reason. What is the problem? Here's my issue.
Starting point is 00:56:13 What is the problem if I'm watching like an R-rated movie and just some titty show up? Like what if there's no box? I don't do you like that. That's fun. Yeah. You dig it. I think. Show me, I know it's not fine for you.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Because you, Mr. Sex's negative. It's fine. You don't even want me to say sperm on the fucking pie. The more, the thing that, the thing that bothers, Jesus Christ, the thing, there was a better way to say that. The thing that bothers me is like the romance stuff. I'm like, that's the kind of stuff I like. Bring it back to the Protective Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:56:38 That boy, Peter Parker was going through him, dog. Liz Allen, bro. Gwen Stacy, a Mary Jane. That boy was out there in the streets. Now I was like, yo, that's my dog right there. That's my Spider-Man. My Spider-Man got to have all the women, bro. That's what I'm talking about, man.
Starting point is 00:56:54 That's what you're going to end up like Charles. That's my... I'm... I didn't say me. I said my Spider-Man. His Spider-Man is going to end up like Charles. On the toilet? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:04 CBC. On both ends? Comitia baby Charles. No. Shit. Can you fuck off? Can you got to stop? God damn.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Shit. Chill, bro. Like, him and Gwen Stacy finally figured it out. Like, what was spectacular Spider-Man? What was the... What was the... I was about to say the thrust. What was the...
Starting point is 00:57:24 what was that one about? Like what was the different story? Because all these Spider-Man have a different... What was the spectacular Spider-Man? I never saw it. I've never seen it. I mean, it told a lot. It told the story of the lizard. It told the Black Soom Spider-Man. I think that's probably one of the better adaptations
Starting point is 00:57:40 of that storyline in comics. Right? The Sandman was a great villain. Like, Doc Ock, you know, Sinister 6. Like, it took all the stuff you know and love from the Spider-Man comics and brought it to life in a way that felt genuine and felt what cared about.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Jay Jonah Jameson was awesome in the show. You know, like all the characters you know and expect from Spider-Man lore were there and represented well. So it felt like an authentic real, real-al-life Spider-Man show. And to see after, you know, season two, it's like, all right, we're getting out of here, 26 episodes. It's Lidip. It's kind of disappointing.
Starting point is 00:58:15 You want more of that lived in real-life Spider-Man world. I think it deserves more. Shout out. Hell yeah. All right, Ben. Your last choice. No, for my last choice, I was thinking about a lot of different things, but there's a show that's coming to an end now abruptly have been downsized by D.C.
Starting point is 00:58:38 And it's a fucking travesty. Oh, I already go with you. It's a fucking travesty that this show, which is one of the best depictions of this character ever, a character that DC cannot get right for whatever reason. I'm not talking about Clark, I'm talking about Superman, that this show would be ending now when it's been so good
Starting point is 00:59:05 to me for such a long time. And the name of that show is Superman and Lewis. Superman and Lewis to me is ending with a sort of truncated run, a truncated last season. They fired half to cast. Because apparently there's not, Not enough room in D.C. for Superman to exist on television and in the movies when the two worlds have nothing to do.
Starting point is 00:59:29 It's going to be confusing. There's two supermans run around. Who's the real one? I love Superman and laws. And I don't understand why the show has to go away. It's a great show. It's a beautiful looking show. It's a show that actually put Superman in the world where you believe that he's in trouble, that he's in peril.
Starting point is 00:59:46 It's a human Superman. I love the show. It's going away, man. I don't like it. So I have a question for you. you're going to watch, you love Superman, you're going to go watch the movie
Starting point is 00:59:56 eight times would have come out in theaters. Do you think there's any chance that David Cornswet can match the energy that you're getting from this particular
Starting point is 01:00:06 incarnation of Superman? You love this incarnation. I do. I think it's different. Okay. You know, this Superman is a dad. He's much more a father than he is the protector of Earth.
Starting point is 01:00:17 And that's kind of what makes the show work. Yeah. All right. He's a deep-powered Superman in a lot of ways. He's not an all-powerful Superman. It's always something that somebody that can challenge him or something that can slow him down.
Starting point is 01:00:28 They do a really good job in the villains that they choose because the villains always throw Superman for a curveball and some of the depictions of these people are good. Courtswet will have to be the protector of the earth and the shining beacon for all of the heroes of that earth in his role as Superman, which is something that we really haven't
Starting point is 01:00:52 seen in Superman and Lewis. So it's a completely different set of circumstances for David Corinswet. I do, I will say something right now though. Yeah. I think Corn Sweat will nail it at Superman. Yeah. I think so too. I think he will
Starting point is 01:01:08 nail it as Superman. I think he's one of the guys that you can see has that little thing that makes the role playable for him. Did you see the video on Did James Gunn make the call then? I think big James... You weren't talking about Superman like this last week. Big, big DC. Hold on for a One more second.
Starting point is 01:01:25 I'm saying the portrayal of the character will be great. Yes. The movie looks wonky. A lot of game left. A lot of game left. And I have to see a trailer. The movie, the set photos and everything we got from the movie looked wonky. Speaking of that, did you guys see soups hanging out with Halliberry?
Starting point is 01:01:44 No. Soups was with Halliberry. Wait. Corn sweat hanging out with Holly Berry? No, no, corn sweat. Soups. The social media. Suops.
Starting point is 01:01:52 from Marvel. No, I'm not bringing him up on this. You're not talking about soups. Did you guys see the video of the Twisters cast reacting to David Corn Sweat? I did see that. They were so excited for it. I was so excited for it. Very nice.
Starting point is 01:02:01 When Powell was jumping like this. I want to ask you this because you're a country boy, Van. I learned about some shit, but I did it. Like, I read it on Twitter. I'm like, I'm throwing up. I'm not going to go look this up. Is there a such thing as Corn Sweat? Like, where it's like, there's so many fields of corn like in the Midwest that it's like, it
Starting point is 01:02:22 can raise the temperature. Interesting. Like during summer. I wouldn't know anything about that. I'm from Louisiana. They don't got corn in Louisiana. We have, we have, it's too wet down there.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Sugar cane. I'm sure there might be some cornfields up there in North Louisiana and stuff like that. I'm sure there's some, I mean, we had a, we had a couple of cornfields. Don't get me wrong. There was actually a maze. Cornfield maze almost had a panic attack in a cornfield maze, a Halloween.
Starting point is 01:02:46 You got lost in a maze? Yeah, so there was a cornfield maze. and you go there and they put different fucking characters from horror movies there and you go through the maze as like a haunted house, right? But it's, I'll tell you something. In nature,
Starting point is 01:03:03 it's scarier for some reason when you do the cornfields. Yes, got to be. Absolutely. When you're out there, you know, when you're out there and it's dark and you're in, you're not in a haunted house where there's stuff, you're like actually,
Starting point is 01:03:15 because you're thinking if there was somebody that was really fucking crazy, this is where they would like hang out to kill. You know, so you don't know. So I started having a panic attack. Of course. And the dude was coming towards me like he was a leatherhead, Chase the Chainsawr Masker guys.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I was telling him like, yo, I'm fucked up for real. Like, leave me alone. And he's like, I'm like, I'm like, nigg, I'm going to fuck you up. Like, you don't have to really. You don't get paid enough for this, right? Like, I'm serious. You give him a warning. Last time that happened, I just started swinging.
Starting point is 01:03:45 I'm like, don't go close. Yeah, like, my heart rate's like 1.30 right now. Like, I'm on the ground. Like, leave me alone. I know that you take drama at LSU, but I'm going to fuck you up for real if you come over here with that fucking, fucking broke-ass chainsaw that you got. Anyhow, but I guess there are cornfields there, but not enough to raise the temperature or whatever. So I look at it up. Corn sweat is a thing according to the weather channel.
Starting point is 01:04:11 And the Washington Post describes corn sweat is the process by which corn plants release moisture in the air to stay cool. and it brings a surge of humidity to the Midwest. Wow. That's what it is. Shout out cornsway. Our new Superman bringing humidity to the Midwest. He bringing humidity to these ladies. So this is a controversial.
Starting point is 01:04:31 My last pick is controversial. Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. Hold on. Did you hear that? Nobody heard that. He said making them all wet. Now you tell me what's more.
Starting point is 01:04:42 See, this is another thing that I don't like is he's a hypocrite. You tell you, like, you tell me what's more. inappropriate to talk about. Sperm, which is scientific and a part of the reproductive SIDS, it's just a classical name. Or to say making them wet. Would you say that? Would you go home and say that in front of your mom and six?
Starting point is 01:05:04 Would you say that to your mom in front of your mom? Probably not. Probably not. Yeah, exactly, Joe. Leaving in the locker room there. Leave it in the locker room. And you got to relax. You got to chill.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Got a chill. So my last choice, I know that he's canceled for good reason. So I'm not going to get into that. Guys, I don't support the band. But there's the thing. This show, did you guys ever watch Firefly? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Yeah. I know it had a movie. I know they wrapped it up. Firefly was my shit. I was in college. I love these Cowboys now. Space Cowboys. I have not rewatched it.
Starting point is 01:05:43 It's probably way more problematic in 2024. Wait, did the burritos just get here? Get here, brother. The burritos are non-existent. I search every row, every alley. There is nothing. There's no trace of burrito. He left the britt.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Oh, hold on, man. What did he say? Stop the buck. Wait. The last one was Firefly, but for the audience, the audience is to know what we're talking about. Before we got on, Van ordered everybody in the room burritos for when they're done
Starting point is 01:06:17 recording. and you're telling me that the burritos that he threw on the street had been stolen. The nigger threw the burritos on the street. They threw the, the nigger threw the burritos on the street, okay? Number one. I got to, I got to be a Karen now.
Starting point is 01:06:31 I'm sorry. The nigger threw the burritos on the street. That's number one. Number one. And then number two, somebody probably rode by on a bike and scooped them fucking burritos up. All right. I got help with the order.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Pass order. I got to do it. Uber support. I'm sorry. You're going to talk to somebody. My order never arrived. And they're going, when they refund us money, we're going back in. But all the stake is going to be gone then.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Well, we'll see. Let's walk in. They sell out of steak. We're going to find out. When we, when they refund our order, we're going back in. Back in. Here's the thing about Firefly. I think there's been a lot of gas around Firefly.
Starting point is 01:07:15 A lot of gas. Just the right amount of gas. Nah, man, like that. When you talk about everything, you look it up right now. Shows that got canceled too soon, the lead is Firefly. It's Nathan Philean and his freaking vest and his khaki, khaki pants holding a gun looking over the horizon. That's every, that's every image. Jomey, you want them to bring back Agent Carter.
Starting point is 01:07:40 All right. So let's not put, like, let's not talk about too much. Okay, nobody's talking about Agent Carter, though. You know what I'm saying? I'm bringing, I'm bringing notice to a cause. I'm saying, I'm just saying that's really like, you're saying Firefly is a boring choice. I mean, like, it's the choice.
Starting point is 01:07:52 It's the choice. I liked Firefly when I was in college. Relax. It was a good show. Sure. I mean, it was a good show. Firefly was a good show. You didn't, have you ever seen it?
Starting point is 01:08:03 No. Oh, it's a good show. I'm sure. It's a good show. But you were wanted to bring back. Who's going to run the show, though? That's what he said at the beginning. Don't, don't.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Not, not, not, not, not, not, oh boy. Yeah. Yeah. I like Firefly. It is, they got their movie, but I mean, all of those actors are like,
Starting point is 01:08:27 what's Alan Tudick doing right now, you know what I mean? Yeah. What's Nathan Philly on doing? He's doing like seven seasons of the rookie. It's been eight seasons. How you still the rookie? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:08:37 At some point, you got to be the vet, right? So, I don't know. All right, guys. That's been our episode. How we do it? Wait, hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:08:48 I got a smuggle. I got one smuggle. And because, well, actually, it's not really a smuggle. It is smuggle because it's five. Lower decks. Paramount, well, it doesn't want you. Paramount's going to, trying to cancel it, right? It's got its final season on Paramount coming out, I guess, sometime later this year.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Go watch it eight times. We can get season six. It's not canceled yet, like they've said as a final season. But at Comic Con, they're like, final season on Paramount. So I think they got some. in the works. Hopefully it works out. It does get canceled. Let's bring Lower Decks, Star Trek, Lower Decks, Back for Season 6, baby. Lock in. I'm there. I'm going to watch it a thousand times. I'm surprised you controlled yourself enough not to
Starting point is 01:09:27 pick Agents to Shield. Here's the thing. I thought about it. Aison and Shield got 136 episodes. Hell yeah. That bitch was on for a long time. Seven seasons. That's nuts, bro. Like for me to come and be like, let's give season. You always act. If the show didn't get its dude, they rich off that show. That show was awesome. I'm not. It's not that the show didn't get it's due. It's that, all right, we're about to get into it. Let's let's let me open up some wounds. Okay. It's not that the show don't get is due like in the circles. I come on here, right? I'm like, hey, it was a great show. I just need you guys to trust me. Y'all like, actually, go fuck yourself. Go die in a ditch. The show sucked. You suck. Hate everything about you and the show.
Starting point is 01:10:05 That's what y'all do. I just need y'all to support me. But I'm like, hey, I like the show. It was good. Just trust me on that. Instead of y'all to be like, Jomi, you know what? We ain't got to watch it. We ain't got to do all that. We just got to support you and love you. You actually hate everything about you. I hate your life, hate your guts. I hope you die. That's what y'all do. God damn.
Starting point is 01:10:22 That's how it feels to me. All I need is, y'all to support me. That's all I ask. But I'm like, yo, age the shit was cool show, just be like, yeah, Jomey. I trust that. I trust that. I believe you. That's all I ask.
Starting point is 01:10:32 That's it. Just support me and love me. Charles? Let's wrap the shit up. I got it. All right. You guys. We got to get these burritos.
Starting point is 01:10:43 I got to figure out what's happening with the burritos. If you're out there and you run a burrito company or something like that, just know that we're hungry. And I had myself all ready for a breakfast burrito and Uber eats fucked clean over us. Tough. All right. It's disgusting.
Starting point is 01:11:01 And it's not what America's about. No. Okay? Or maybe it is what America's about. Disappointment. Wow. That's it. All right.
Starting point is 01:11:08 That's it. No more show. That's a wrap. Follow socials on socials, instant Twitter, Facebook, TikTok for now, save, Jomi's job program. Reminders, Friday, but match returns to Star Wars Outlaws. Also on Friday, House of Arc, usually their deep dive into Rinesbauer.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Scene 2, episodes 1 through 3. Saturday, the entire Reingverse crew is back to give you their Ringiverse Recommends. Yeah. Our producers are Alea O'Brien, Sennaris. Jonathan Kerma! Chocolate, man. Socials is Jomi, the Explaner, a dinner on. Steve, the architect
Starting point is 01:11:39 Alman, not here, but always here in spirit. And our Juna the Wacha. Rhyam a pal overseeing everything Charles, take it away. Steve, we miss you. Chicago is very far. And if you order off Uber Eats,
Starting point is 01:11:56 just remember the burrito is at large. I'm not going to tell the story of the hallowed Vegas trip of 2002 where a certain member of our crew was next to the window whimpering.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Oh my God. And we had to go to the clinic and things, our lives would change forever. Certain member of our crew was next, like, this was kind of the era where we didn't have enough money for everybody to have separate rooms. It would be like seven or eight dudes in one room. And like, so everybody sprawled out around the room, whatever. All of a sudden, I hear somebody and then next to the window. What? What's going on?
Starting point is 01:12:56 And then we actually had to call back to Baton Rouge, ask somebody. dad what we should do and then we had to go to the clinic and all of that stuff and had to get it figured out how did we get on this fit can we get to the show we can get to the show i'm just saying well i'm saying all that to let you know that there's absolutely zero stigma here of course there's zero shame charles there's no there's zero shame and me having food poisoning there's zero shame in what you're going through right there's no there's no shame in what you're going through right

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