The Ringer-Verse - The Second Annual Black Heroes of Fandom Character Draft | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: February 8, 2023

In celebration of Black History Month, the Midnight Boys return once again to draft the best Black heroes across all of their favorite fandoms. (08:32) Hosts: Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Social: Jomi Adeniran Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman Additional Productional Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Instagram, Facebook, TikTok. Jomi needs the Celine S7. Guys, we're so close. We're getting there. We're so close to 25K on Twitter, and we're about 1K away from 20K on Instagram.

Those are rookie numbers. She needs to pump those up. You got to do that. You got to do that differently. You got to do that like the guys on YouTube to it. All right, take two. Hey, what's up, fellas, man? You know, appreciate y'all for like and subscribing.

Hey, listen, we're so close. Guys, guys, guys, guys. We're so close to 25K on Twitter. Make sure to smash. Yeah, smash that follow button. Oh, yeah. And on Instagram, too, we're right there on 20K. Guys, guys, guys, guys.

smash. And when I mean smash, I mean Hulk, smash that follow button. And that's a 28K on Instagram. You know, like that? Is that what you like? That's exactly right. Steve, give Joe me a round of applause right here. Yes, yes, yes, absolutely. That's a minus transgression for him.

That's a free transgression for him this show. Bitch, no. What? Okay. What are you talking about? You don't get, see what I'm saying? Just let you guys know. Arjuda is that here.

Just like to let you guys know, Arjuna's not here. And so Steve is counting the transgressions. And already, he's fucking up. I'm wild and loose with it. Wait, really, before I forget, Steve already has a transgression on the board. This is our first Black History Month transgression because we said that Steve did not know that not only did Nikki Minaj have a Stan Army. He did not know what the Stan Army was named. I figured that she had Stan Army, but she, okay.

Steve had never heard of the barbs. Wait, hold on. I need this part to be clipped. Like, look, I need this part to be clipped. Steve didn't know who the barbs were. Right. Barb's right there. A white boy in the middle.

Not me. Steve. Never heard of them. Quick question. What is Rihanna's, uh, Stan army named? What's Rihanna Navy?

Rihanna Navy. Did you look at the boys? I think you looked at it. No, no, no. I knew the Rihanna Navy. That's from battleship. Rihanna Navy is. It's the Navy.

It's the beehive. Yeah. It's the Swifties. Swifties, yeah. The bars. I didn't know the Barbbs. Does the Dell have one? The Delphonics?

I don't know. Steve, can ask a really quick question? When you were watching the Grammys and you saw Harry Stiles steal, Giancati's Grammy and say people like me usually don't win. I'm like this only happens to people like you, Harry. What do you talk about? That's what you have to say. Well, shout out to Harry, bro.

Harry. No, fuck it. No, don't do it. Man, Harry ain't do nothing, bro. Y'all's so mean. Like, we want to be Yonse to win. That's why. That's the only reason we want to be able to be able to win.

And Harry won. Man, Harry a good dude, bro. Like, shout out of hell. We ain't doing this today. We ain't doing this today on Black History Month. I try. Okay, out of here. All right, programming.

Okay. This Friday, the House of R will be giving you their Marvel villain tier list. interesting. On Monday, Min Edition is back to talk about the hottest trailers that dropped on Super Bowl Sunday. That's right, baby.

The whole show, hi, guys? We might have another thing or two up our sleep, but maybe we want to save that. Yeah, man. You ever thought of surprising the audience or keeping them on a hook, man? Okay, next Friday the Midnight Boys

will be giving our reactions to Ant-Man Quantummania will all be together to go see the movie pretty soon. The premiere happened. I couldn't go because I'm sick. Okay. But, you know, been hearing a lot of things. We'll make a determination Midnight Boy style about Atman Quantumany when it comes out. So far, I've heard that Jonathan Majors King is being lauded.

They're saying that he has the biggest shoulders. of any villain yet that he has the most defined pecks. Jonathan Major swallowed as hell, bro. We just got to be real, bro. It's like, Jonathan Majors is like, you ever see like a, you know, you're out to playing basketball or something like that, and you see a nigga out there and he, like, a nigga, put your shirt on, dog.

You know what I'm saying? It's like, what you're trying to do? The Ebony cover had the streets going crazy. Nuts. And then he, and then another thing about Jonathan is he act like he on, No, he was on higher learning. I was like, say, bro, do you know that you're about to send the women in a frenzy when you're doing this?

He goes, uh-huh, no, man, I'm just, shut up. That you do. You see it? You know what I'm saying? Did you see, like, there was a video about him. He was talking about, man, yeah, you know, wake up, go to the gym, we shoot, you know, halfway through, you know, get a little workout in. And then, you know, just late night, you know, go do some lifting, you know, and I would

eat, you know, 36,000 calories, you know, fish and chicken, fish and chicken. It was tough. I was like, must be nice. Must be great. We'll see. We'll see if he, we'll see if, we'll see if he has the bra to beat Antman,

which I'm pretty sure you do he does. On today's show. Wait, man, guys. If you were too sick to go to the Airman premiere, that means you didn't get to use your invitation to go to the Rock Nation brunch,

man. I was really excited for you. I thought, you know, I was excited seeing your pink suit. I don't, you know, next to,

you know, this is this transgression for Jomey? Is this? Yeah, No, no. It's an attack out of nowhere. An attack. That's not an attack.

That's not an attack. They do look like you'd be going to the Rock Nation brunch. Let's see, I look like I'd be, where's the last time y'all saw me at something like that? Just be honest with you. Be like, like, don't, you know what I'm saying? What's the last time y'all saw me or something like that? See, I don't know.

Where's the last time y'all saw me? What was the last time y'all saw me posing with a bunch of people that ended Colin Kaepernick's come back. Like, when was the last time y'all saw me or something? Yo! Brough! Can you not? Can you not?

I'm serious. Like, shout out to everybody that went. That's an amazing event and everybody I have them. You know fucking well I've never, they would never ask, but like, you know damn well I'm not going to nothing like that, bro. Okay. Jomi, take us through it.

Let's go. We are back in black for our second. annual Black Heroes of Fandom Draft In celebration of Black History Month, we are once again returning to draft the best black characters in all of fandom. Same rules

as last year apply. Snake draft with picks across movie, TV, video games, etc. All of last year's picks are off the board and are ineligible for this year's draft. Each Midnight Boy will get five picks,

including one wildcard, pick of ambiguous blackness. This pick consists of a black coded character whose blackness will be allowed to be debated with a majority vote to be allowed in the draft. Each drafter must designate this pick as their wildcard pick and allow it for debate. Random number generator to pick the order. And as always in Black History Month, Steve goes last. Has to happen.

All right. Van, give me a number one through four. three all right charles give me a number one through four two okay joamy four wow that actually worked out perfectly it goes van charles joey me all right let's do this okay can i just say this is going to be the draft that uh really shows who the real drafters are uh in this fairing and who uh the draft dodgers are because there's some slim pickings here uh this is tough there's not a

there's not a clear first pick like at all I have my clear first and I hope I get them whoever we picked first does show us the real spirit of who we are as drafters because once you take away Miles Morales and Black Panther and shit

you know it gets space we got to see how deep the bag is How deep is your bag, Charles? I have two people that I know you guys aren't going to choose. Two people that I know you guys aren't going to choose. All right, future Jordy LaForge winners. All right.

Congratulations. We'll see. We'll see. Maybe one. Okay. My first pick, I'm going to go with Nick Fury. And so the only reason is I just got to go with the Nick that did the most numbers. Because when you're looking, there are a lot of good choices here.

There are a lot of good choices here But if I'm going to go number one I want to just panter to the audience I want to bring in the MCU Nick Fury is a big name He is the closest thing To an Avenger Well no there's actually an Avenger on this list

I wouldn't choose it We're already here It's been three minutes We're already here He's the closest thing to a vendor. Well, well. So I'm going to go with Nick Fury. Nick Fury is not necessarily in power,

but in importance, in importance, I would say a top five most important MCU character. Oh, for sure. Bullshit. Top five? He's a big presence for sure. I, top five.

Ten, ten, ten. Wait, wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are you talking about? I think he's a top five important to your character. Iron man? Iron man's more important. Captain America. Yes. Spider-Man.

In terms of giving the MCU a second life, come on. Come on. Spider-Man's over, Nick Ferry. Okay, let's say, let's see, let's say Spider-Man. Okay, cool. Black Panther. Y'all say a note of Black Panther? No, no.

I put it on, yeah, that's on the board. For Black Panther, honestly, I think you could sneak anybody in here. Thor would be more important than him? Maybe. Maybe. Thor's not more important? So the, oh, this is, come on, bro.

So I get it. But the only thing I'll say is there's a difference between bigger and more important. Like, and I get what you're saying is, and your contrarian vibes were good. But there's a difference between bigger. Because all of these kids, there's big characters that, like Scarlet Witch is a bigger character than Nick Fury, right?

I would argue with that actually. But like bigger. But when I say important, I mean, the inner webbing of the MCU that tied everything together and really separated the universe from anything else that we had ever seen. seen before in cinema,

I could make an argument that the connective tissue of that was Nick, was Nick Fury. That the connective... You know what I'm saying? That's why I'm saying important. That's like that one character that became the through line to everything and really was like, you know,

sort of the tendons that held it all together was Nick Fury. That's why I would say he was top five. You could argue that the post-credits Nick Fury scene in Iron Man is a top five game-changing moment in the MCE. you. That sets the universe. That creates the universe. Before then, I don't know what I thought that they were doing, but I didn't think that they were doing that. That sent the intent of the universe. And now I'm like, oh, my God, I kind of know where I'm at. All right. So Nick Fury is my

choice. Wait, really quick, because now I'm just going down memory lane. Isn't it wild that, I don't know about you, I walked into that movie theater? We, like, staying after the credits for like a special gift. Like, I, like, that was fucking wild. And then just seeing fucking Samuel Jackson on the screen. I was just like, what? Like, I didn't even know really how to take it. I was like, oh, they're doing the Avengers. What was that?

Is that the first, like, post-credd-th thing? No. In nerddom? But... No, it's not, but... No, but it's the most... It's the biggest one, you know? Most consequential.

Most consequential. I remember for years, I didn't realize that there was a post-credit scene in... Masters of the Universe with Dolph Lungering. If you watch Masters of the Universe, you think that He-Man has killed Skeletor, Courtney Cox is in that joint. But if you watch to the end of that bitch,

Skeletor rises up out of the fucking gook at the end of it. I'm like, oh, my God. I was like watching it one day. I'm smoking weed. I'm like, oh, shit, Skeletor does it. Courtney Cox is in that movie? Courtney Cox is in that movie. It's a wild movie.

Yo, this is wild. All right, sorry. We have to get to me this. Yeah. All right, damn. All right. So, Nick Fury taking off the board. You know what?

I'm going to show some love to one of our newer heroes. I'm taking the second Black Panther, Shuri, clean off the fucking board. All right? I think she put in some work. She beat Nehmore's ass first time around. And got to put a black woman on the board because I know my fellow midnight boys might know. Okay, let's talk about this real quick. What have you done?

Why did you do that? Why did you feel the need to do that? Transgression? No, absolutely. Not a transgression? How is that a transgression? I'm asking. So.

A joke can't be a transgression. I'm going to stop asking. I'm going to just wait. I was talking to Kalika, right? And we were discussing the movie. And Kalika is just sitting there one day. She's on the couch. And I'm over there playing with Boseman.

And she goes, I don't like Wakanda forever. It's out of nowhere. Just out of nowhere. Wasn't on TV. Oh, it wasn't plain. Just out of nowhere. We might have been watching CNN. I don't like Wakanda forever.

I'm like, okay, why? She was like, it wasn't exciting. I'm like, what do you mean? She was like, I wasn't excited that she was Black Panther. She's like, I wasn't, there was nothing. The movie, like, he was cool, but it wasn't a very exciting movie. It was kind of a drag. And I'm like, oh, shit.

God damn. I'm like, is she bringing her real? Do you think that, so the question I'm asking is, do you think that Shuri Black Panther holds any weight with the MCU fans right now? Do you think the mantle has been successfully passed to where people really think that she is Black Panther? And it makes sense for them. I mean, I'm going to be honest, my man. Can you name me any hero that they've introduced, taking on that.

mantle in the MCU that has measured up to the original incarnation. What mansions have been passed, let's think about this. Hawkeye, Black Widow. Black Widow, for sure. Black Widows won. But the ceiling was lower. You know what I'm saying? Sure.

There's one Black Widow movie. But Hawkeye, I wouldn't say so. Like, close, but not really. I'd say Hawkeye is as good as it gets as well. But it wasn't a home run in terms of like, oh. I would say that like, like. Here's the thing. I'd almost make the,

I'd almost make the argument that people care more about Cape Bishops Hawkeye than they did about Jeremy Renner's. That Kate Bishops Hawkeye is like, oh. No, we can't go there. We can't go there. I'm saying that like, at least Cape Bishops' Hawkeye is like a thing. Like, it seems like Jeremy Renner's Hawkeye is dope, but he was kind of a dude who was there.

But, like, in this particular one, I think Kay Bishop's Hawkeye is like people actually root for and want to see maybe even more. Am I crazy for thinking that? I don't think you're crazy, but I think it's wild to say she's like above Jeremy Renner's hawk eye. Just, yeah, I need to see more. Yeah, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. We all, we all know how we feel about, uh, falkin, being the new cap, like, uh, who? Right, yeah, uh, yeah, yeah, so to have the mantles.

The mantos haven't been as good. No, but, but Shuri, Shuri, good part. So it's Jomi now? It's my turn. It's my turn. Honestly, I can't believe this character's still on the board,

you know, from last, last years, but got to go with them in my first pick. You know, you gave love to Semino-Jaxon as Nick Fury, giving him in love as Frozo. It's my guy.

It was my first pick. Y'all are looking confused. Really, bro? That's that's that's that's that's that's border in the areas of LaFran how was that border yeah we had we had a lot further to go before we got the phone zone I'm gonna be real with you that's a that's a LaForge Jomey that's Joe me that's not I'm surprised that I didn't that's a LaForge but nobody that's nobody was nobody was nobody was okay nobody was picking for Frozone my nigga I have I got the back to back

Like, okay. No, I have the back-to-back. No, he has the back-to-back because it's, bro, that's that was a little. Snake draft, that's my bad. My best. Snake draft, baby. I mean, there's a lot of draft left. There's so much draft left.

There's so much draft left. You're drafting like there's no draft left. What are you talking about? Listen. I'm not as old as you guys. I'm not as old as you guys. Whoa. Okay.

Joe. Okay. Okay. Transgression. Hold on. Can I finish? Can I finish? Can I finish?

Y don't even let me finish my. Y'all didn't move on my statement. You didn't want to feel it. It was you took a long pause. Like you should have paused before choosing Frozone until a couple of miles later. You didn't say, right? I wasn't out outside in the 19,

1984 watching, you know, whatever y'all have for the CW shows. You know what I'm saying? Like, I wasn't plugged in like that, okay? This is really rude. This is really rude. Such a transgression. Continues.

So, Matt. Y'all got, y'all bags way deeper, you know what I'm saying, in terms of the characters you y'all can pick. My Frozo's my guy, you know what I'm saying? From 2004 on, you see what I'm saying? I'm working with a little bit of a, my backlog hand is deep, you know what I'm saying? When we talk about these characters, so the fact that you would come out here and just depress me like this off the rip, you know,

it's just, it's tough. First of all, look, first of all, I nominate a transgression for fake victimhood right here. I love Frozo. I love Frozo. I just think Frozen would have been around. I think Frozen would have been around, too. Yeah, I think Frozen would.

It was just my, I was like, hey, man, Frozen on? You love that. You love him. He's cool. He was a stereotypical Negro getting yelled at by his wife, but it's all grave. You know, we weren't quite woke yet. It was like, that's part of the movie. You know, they had like a functional relationship.

They having sex and getting fit together. Frozone. Wear my suit, baby. It's going to be real. They were living well. You know what I'm saying? Oh, prozone. Skyrised apartment.

Yeah. Get that pet house, man. Frozen was kicking. Whatever he was doing for work was, who, he was living. Must be nice. Wait,

what's his face really quick? Do you think Mr. Incredible voted for Trump? No. No. Nah. No. No.

He got the look. He got the, he got the, he got the, I think at worst he'd be like a libertarian. No, I think like, I think he would be like, man, this Trump dude, man. I don't know. And then, oh, girl, this Alaska girl would snap him right back. Yeah, Alaska, let's keep it real, man.

Stop playing. Let's keep it real. The reason why Alaska girl, she definitely down, like, Mr. Fantastic is the first white dude she ever dated. There's no way. All right. Okay. No, back. There's no way that she is shaped like that.

And she wasn't like in college. We should not have let him cook. In college. Stop. Stop. Keep changing him. Continue, good. In college, she was fucking around with the football team.

And Mr. Incredible actually saved her because it was a guy named DeWan. It was a guy named DeWan that, you know, was fucking around with her, didn't want to be, Mr. Incredible was the one that because, girl, don't let these, you know, Bible Blah. That's why they got such a good relationship. Jesus, you know, but, you know. Okay. All right, my pick, I've got two. My first one is the MCU's first recast that I was genuinely super excited for. It's War Machine.

We got to give love to Don Chito. He was awesome. silent pick genuinely made Iron Man 2 like really really fun underrated at this point Iron Man 2 and I really I really really really like it I love Iron Man 2 right wait I got to ask you

really we probably talked about this before but how different is the MCU if Terrence Howard is still War Machine World likes different I think I think almost better nah bro if Terrence Howard no way

If you're a war machine, there would be no MCU right now, bro. He'd have taken it down with him, bro. You know what I'm saying? It's like, shout out Terrence Howard, man. But the last time, Terrence Howard had all kinds of weird storylines in there, bro. Last time I saw Terrence Howard, he was looking for Space Rocks in Ghana or something like that. Terrence Howard was a hot actor at that point. Don't get me wrong.

off of an Academy Award nomination, but they lucked up getting Don in there, bro. Wait, but I have to, do you guys know that our man, Terrence Howard, created his own mathematics? I heard this. I've heard this before. I hate every single second of it.

I'm just pitching you. Can you imagine an Iron Man, too? Terrence is just like, hey, I know you got, you designed the arc reactor, but I got this new mathematics, and he designs his own arc reactor, and it fucks Tony's heart up.

The shit would have been brilliant. Tony dies, he takes over the mantis. Yeah, and then all of a sudden he's trying to fuck pepper and all of it. It's just, it's not, you know what I'm saying? It's not. I got the way of our reactor, Maine, like, you know. Man. I would love.

I, man. I am Maine. Ain't Maine. Ain't made. Got to fool you. That's an egg made. Aidst part of Bay. Why does Terrence Howard say, Annette?

Roady. Roady. Hey, Maine. Like, Rody's way in the ass cot. You know what I mean? Around the. It's just, nah. They went with the right.

Next time, baby. That's still one of the funniest things to me. Can you imagine war machine with Terrence Howard's dreads from that show? You remember when they gave him Dredge when he went to jail or watched him with that Fox show? Yeah. Empire? Empire, yeah. You can't remember the name of the Empire.

He wrote him with Dredge would be amazing. Yeah. Yeah. I can't hang on Terrence Howard. Terrence Howard has had fantastic career, but he's a little, he might be a little bit too much for Disney. You know what I'm saying? They got him the first time, but it wasn't Disney yet. He might be a little bit too much for Disney.

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Steve, what's your next pick? All right, my next pick. I'm taking it back to the world of Star Wars. My Armenian friend that says that he's the first Armenian character in Star Wars, but Landau Calrissian is a hero that is probably one of my favorite Star Wars characters ever because he was so cool.

He was the coolest dude in Empire Strikes Back, and I'm not going to hear anything else. He was cooler than House of Love? Yes, because Han Solo God. This is a lie. As a black person He was not cool.

Yeah, he was not cooler. You just trying to be a good ally. You're pandering right now. You pandering right now. Steve, Steve, that's a, that's a transgression for pandering, bro. Pandering? Oh, wow. That's a, that's a transgression.

That's a transgression for pandering. Shout out to Lando. That's literally the movie where he gets, where Han gets his shit off before he's frozen in carbonite. I love you. I know.

Come on, bro. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy. Yeah, Steve, Steve, I almost want to disqualify you for the draft for that. I've got two amazing characters, and you got somebody with Frozone on the board here.

Hold on. Relax. Respect Frozone. Respect Frozone. I can't wait to see your second pick, Jomey. What do you pick after Frozone? Which, which Lando are you going?

Do you go on Code 45, Billy D. Williams? or you're going Billy D. Williams. Billy D. Williams. Did I have a fever dream watching solo? Was there a whole subplot where Donald Glover

wanted to fuck the Millennium Falcon? Yeah. Dude. Yeah, he was so bad. Yeah, he was having sex with a robot. He had a robot lover in the movie. I remember when I left,

me and my brother, we talked about the fact how him and a robot would express their physical love to one another. And we thought about all all kinds of contraptions that could be made. Because if you put like a flashlight on the robot, then what?

Let him cook. Like, he's actually, come on. No. I think we should be very careful about where we left Van cook. All right. I'm off. Look, bro, I'm going off the cuff.

I'm going off the cuff syrup right now. I don't give a fuck. I'm just saying. Me and my brother had a lot. conversations like my brother's like there's stuff you could do is star wars you know what i mean but they were in love emotionally and who's uh who's up next it's my joey it'll be joey me it'll be joey now right you know at this point man like i man throws him on my guy i didn't know if i was going to get him that late but apparently he was not on everybody's draft board don't take jerald

bro like just pick someone else no well okay i'm gonna rock with this guy um you know we was uh Back in the day, when we were still getting them Netflix TV shows, we were like, oh, man, this right here, this is cinema. Go back right now is, you know, it's probably not as tight as we once thought. Or even in the moment, we were just lying because, you know, we had to get this agenda off. But I'm going with Luke Cage as my second pick. It's a good pick. You know, the cotton mouth stuff was tight. that was legitimately awesome.

And then Mershaw Ali was like, you know, like paying me enough or I got to go win a couple Oscars. So I'll see y'all on a back half. And then he left in the show was never, was never as fun. That was one of the roughest backs of a show that I actually really did love. First season of Loucage was pretty, pretty good. Luke Cage was a good show.

It was like, it was, yeah, it never reached. Once they got rid of, Cottonmouth, man. It was never the same. Diamondhead was not the same. Yeah. Yeah. Once it got rid of Cottonmouth,

the show did take a turn. But, like, that show had us in his clutches for a while. Oh, for sure. That was a big deal. That show had us in his clutches for a while. The Netflix MCU was hot back then. Like,

just came off of Jesse Jones. Would you guys like to see Luke Cage recast? Yes. I don't know, man. I just saw playing with Mike Coulter. It was good. He looked good. You know, I don't know.

Jombie, did you go to the theaters to see Plain? I sure did. That should be a transgression. I sure did. I can't go to the theater. Who did you go to a plane with? I went by myself because I'm a grown man. You didn't go by yourself.

You're on my tip now. You're going to the movies by yourself. I love this. Movies by myself is fine. Dinner by myself is embarrassing. Nothing wrong with going to dinner by yourself. I would never get myself caught. outside like that.

I love dinner by myself. You got to go to dinner by yourself. Amazing. Bro, I love dinner by yourself. I'm bringing this back from a second pod. Like, there's nothing wrong. And in fact, it's great going to dinner by yourself. Like, you look important.

I stretch my shit out. Like, would just be you today, sir? Yeah. Bring me an appetizer menu. Yeah. You know what I'm sitting around here. Like people out there. My whole thing, shut out.

People are like, who is that guy? Who is that kind of by himself? Do you want to know what Joe Me suggested that it was better than this? What? He said, I would rather say table for two and sit by myself and act like I got stood up. We had it. Yeah, we stopped recorded then. That was like, yeah.

That was more pathetic, bro. Yes. I was like, that's insane. Wait, you really don't like you know. I was definitely joking about that. But no, man, like, what are you going to do over there and just sit there with your own thoughts? God forbid. No.

Bring a book. What are you talking about? This is I'm a young person said. Bring a book. I love you alone, my thoughts. Nobody bothering me. Eating by yourself is great. It's the only time.

Only time when I go to a restaurant where I do that shit where I'm like to the waiter, what would you recommend? Just because I feel like a boss, whatever they say I'm going to order it. Yeah, you feel safe. I can do that in my, I can eat by myself in my own home. I can read a book while I eat at my own home. I can put on some Netflix while I eat at my own home. You know what I'm saying?

Can't just be out there in the streets. People walk by the restaurant and like, Toxic black masculinity during black history. You hate to fuck your see it. What do you mean toxic black masculinity? I hate to fuck you see it. Who's that? Who's next?

Charles is up. All right. Shit. All right. I got Shuri. Ooh. What am I going? Where am I going?

All right. You know what? I'm taking this one off the board. He means a lot to me. It was only a very, well, it was only as I got to an adult. I realized how problematic this character was in the whole entire franchise. I'm going with the Black Ranger. from Power Rangers.

Oh wow. Mr. Brick dancing himself. He was Zach. From Mighty Morfin? Or which, like, I'm guessing Mighty Morphan. Mighty Morphins, Zach. Yeah. Dad, let me tell you something about this nigga, bro.

This nigga, this nigga awoke in my eyes to racism. He did. Because I never thought about just casual racist. until one day I'm sitting down and I'm watching the mighty Murphy Power Rangers

and I'm just thinking to myself yo why is this motherfucker dancing and during the fights too just fucking speeding on his head and shit

I'm like yo why is he dancing like why he got to dance and then you started to look at the Power Rangers and it was racist as shit

the yellow Ranger was the Asian lady think about that that can't happen Like it's just so, bro, it's just, you ever think about the choices for back in the day? That can't happen. There's got to be somebody in the room that goes, come, we can't do that. But wait, but here's the worst thing.

And this is what happened in the 90s a lot. So we weren't where we were diversity-wise. So anytime there was like a black character, his whole like attitude or presence would be something like breakdancing or graffiti. That would be his skill. Like he couldn't be like someone who would be like someone who would. really into like books or science. It was always like, hey, y'all, watch me hoop and fight the enemies. I'm like, bro, can we

like give him a normal fucking task to do, please? It's like nobody's about to start breakdancing when there's a 200-foot kajou, like outside, you know, and it's just, in the guinea, he rolls his body and I'm like, it really put me off the Power Rangers, because I'm like, why

we got to dance? Yeah. The Power Rangers also, my dad put me off the Power Rangers. Because think about it. The Power Rangers was coming on. This 92, 93. And I was 12, 13. I remember one day, my daddy was like, I was watching the Power Rangers

and my dad come on. My dad came. It was like, this was made to be like 94 here. And my, this rest of peace to dad, this is very toxic guys. My dad comes over, he turns the TV off. He goes, all right, now, well, I'll get you some pussy.

Okay? Yo. Bro. His exact words. His exact words. Like, he was scared that I was going to spend my whole life living in the fantasy world. I mean, cut the TV off. I was watching Power Rangers.

I was like, cut the TV off. He's like, go out there now. Go out there and get to go out there and meet some girls. I want to see you on the phone with some little girls or whatever. It was a funny. Steve. Look, y'all, y'all can't judge my dad. I don't judge it.

Wait. It was a different time. Different time he was operating out of a place of pizza. You guys, you guys' fathers never encouraged you to go. out to have teenage sex, that never was like encouraging y'all to go out there and experiment with girls, never. I'm so sad to say no, then, but like, absolutely not. Really?

My dad was more concerned about my grades and why I was getting bees. That wasn't a concern for my father. All of that stuff was in order. Like, I was too competitive. That wasn't a concern for him. His concern was like whether or not I was going to ever turn Star Wars off. Steve, what was your dad? Was he 17, 18 during that time?

I'm trying to brushing. Okay. Let's be back last episode. Okay. All right. Whose choice is it now? It's your turn. You get two choices, my man.

Two choices. Okay. First choice, Bishop. Boo. Fuck Bishop. Jesus Christ. Okay. That was very,

why are you? I'm very serious about that. From Bishop. Like, Bishop got nothing going on. If I told you to describe to me who Bishop was, you couldn't say anything besides the Negro and the fucking X-Men. You don't even know what his powers are, bro. It's right.

Bishop absorbs kinetic energy. He can turn it back on people. See, this is. Exactly what Gambi does. They couldn't even give him an original power. So this is your youth showing. Now, let me tell you why. Bishop, which I still have his first appearance.

Okay. Like Bishop, for my generation of X-Men comic book readers, was a very important character. All right. He was important because Bishop had come from the future, where the X-Men had been decimated. We didn't know how much information Bishop had about who had killed the X-Men. The time-jumping thing was a big deal during that situation.

So Bishop looking for whoever the traitor was going to be. The traitor ended up being savior. And at that time, as a black male ex-man, Bishop was the one that like we sort of related to. It was bish up. And it was all in your mouth. And so all I'm saying to you right now, Charles, is the hatred of Bishop,

who was a very important character. A member of a future X-Men situation. What's the Jerry Curles? No, what's your thing against curls, bro? That's anti-black, dog. If you have a problem with it... You know what I'm my X-Men at Jerry Girls? Is anti-black?

Yeah, bro. Look. Stop this trap, bro. I can't... Hey, can't be real with y'all. There are certain things that if people don't understand them, I look at them as like not quite black, you know? Wow.

I'm serious. If you don't really understand, and maybe it's because you're young. What year were you born again, Charles? 92. 92. So maybe it was gone by then, but y'all don't understand. Bishop was in my comics. I remember him.

No, no, no, no. How deep the Jericho had a hold on the culture, bro. Just everybody. Bro, how deep the Jericho. had a hold on the culture, bro. I never forget just watching my dad put like a kid in his hair and thinking to myself, is this my hero? Like what everybody had a Jerry curl, bro.

Everyone was curling up. Everyone went through a little face. The only person that never did it was my mom. My mom was like, y'all look ridiculous. So all of y'all, that smells and there's oil everywhere. Get out of my house. You know what I'm saying? But the Jerry curl was a huge deal, so they had to give Bishop to-

Did you have a- Did you have a Jerry Corrid. No, but what I would do is I would take, like, the Jerry Curl products, and I would use them in my hair to make my shit softer. I wouldn't actually get the actual curl. Yeah. Because I held on to the flat top for a long time. Like, I held on to the flat top.

Bro. I held on. So what I would do is I would take the curl stuff, came in, like, the gold bottle, and I would put it in my shit, and I would let my flat top would be, I would look like I was a new addition of some shit like that. But I never had, like, the four. There's got to be a picture.

There's got to be a picture. It's bad haircut time. Joey, what was your worst haircut in life? Worth haircut. Oh, man. I went to this barber shop, man. I wanted a,

I wanted a ball fade on all sides. Or not all sides. Just a regular ball fade, right? You know, two on top. And God bless this woman. But she could not hack it together. And so I just ended up having like a two. Like on the top.

and like a zero on the sides. It was, it was, yeah, because she couldn't fade it. It was nasty, brus. Which, which, which, which Supercuts location was this at? I can't, I can't, I had to be, I think it was somewhere in Long Beach way back when,

but I never went back there again. Now I got my guy, my guy, OJ, take care of me real nice. So I ain't got to worry about that. It was terrible. My, I can't believe I'm a real in this. The most embarrassing shit I ever did, I had the blonde, I had the Wiz Khalifa Blonde

streak in the Afro. Terrible. Wow. Wow. I'm not proud of it, bro. I'm not proud of it. It looked terrible. What year was this?

I can't, I can't reveal any more information. I'm already in this. 2015, 2013? Yeah, man. He was out here, bro. You know at a certain age, you're like, bro, just give me a Caesar. Like, I got to stop.

Like, just give me the record of shit. Steve, you ever buzz your shit? No. No, I think... You never buzzed it? No, I never did. I think when I was like a kid, like in grade school, I had like the...

that wavy 90s, like middle part, like that early DeCaprio shit. Yeah. Oh, I know what that is. Yeah. You should buzz your... Steve, you should buzz your shit for the summer, bro. No, I can't.

No, I got like... I got the weird, like, not thing in the back of my head. Like, if I had a full... No, you're going to buzz you. But it's thing, right? Steve ain't got no facial hair, right? Steve can't grow like...

Yeah, I can't. I can't be a... Let me ask you. Did you ever have the emo, like Fallout Boy haircut? Don't buy Steve. No, I did dress up as an emo for Halloween once, and I put it like a full like Fall Out Boy wig on.

Steve, you're going to buzz your shit this summer. No. Can't that? Yes, you are. Mm-mm. I don't know, man. If he can't look like a whole... I'm going to look like a thumb.

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Oh, okay. All right. Because these picks were slimmer than what I thought. I'm going with someone who I think is very clearly black and who had a huge, huge impact on my childhood. I'm going with Panthero from the Thunderhats. Oh. Now, look, all you guys have to do to decide whether or not Panthero is black, it's the picture of Panther.

Panther, like, look, man, look at Panther, bro. Like, I'm sorry, y'all. That's a dick. You know what I'm saying? You're the audience. VARETA shows us. Look at that, bro. A Panther.

You can't tell me. Panther got the bald head. You know what I'm saying? Panther got the eyes. They gave my brother the nose. The whole non-Panthro is black. He's also almost kind of like the wise magical Negro of the Thunder cats. He's got Nunchucks, which was a big deal in the black community in the 80s for some reason.

My cousin Sean had a pair of nunchucks and he, like, destroyed his fucking head with him. Also, he is voiced by a black man, Earl Hyman. He played Russell Huxable on the Cosby Show. The grandpa? The grandfather from the Cosby Show. Is Panthro? Is the voice of the original Panthro.

You guys, Panthro was the man. Lionel in a little, in a, Lionel sometimes after like kind of a little bitch sometimes. Like he didn't know what he was supposed to do. He was the prince that was promised. Panther was the steadying, older black guy. Like Uncle Panthero is what we will call him. I'm going with Panther as mine. That's my first one.

And look, I'm looking at every actor that's played Panther after this. Kevin Michael Richardson. look, that's Panther right there. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, let's see. There's one more. Chris Jai Alex,

Thundercats, Roar. Panthro is the black Thundercat. He's the black cat. Well, I have two questions, though. What? I just found this on Google. Did you know that Anthony Mackey

like was lobbying to play him? I bet he was. He did a live action Thundercats. I bet he was because Panthro is black. That's a true black character. Would you want to see him? If you had to see any black character play Panther, who would it be?

Any black guy played? Anthony Mackie's a good choice for Panther. I think my culture could do it. He got the like... Yeah, he kind of got the kind of Panthro situation going on as well. But I'm going with Panther. That's my black one. Also, Thundercats had the best theme song.

Thunder cats. Yeah. Yeah, Panthro. All right. That's it. I'm done. Charles, you're back. Oh, I'm back.

You know what? I'm going wildcard too, and this pick was denied me last year. Someone would say unfairly. Okay. Like, this pick, you would know was my Joker origin story. I'm going with a character that taught me what fatherhood means. What happens when you have to take care of a white man's child? You do it with grace, okay?

And you turn him into somebody who understands our struggle. Pick a little from Dragon Ball. See? There we go. All right, let's discuss this. There's nothing to discuss. There's nothing to fucking discuss. I mean, we discussed it all last year.

I was just saying, what makes Piccolo black? First of all, sounds like a black man. He's always like, go on, cut the fucking shit. All right, let's get to training. Okay, just let you know, spot on. That's the guy who voices Piccolo. Chris Sybott. Chris Seibot voices Piccolo.

I'm looking at him right now this motherfucker's wearing a beret or one of those little hats like I'm looking at this guy that's the guy he could not be he could not be wider that's the motherfucker

that voice is pickler no look I'm feeling you I'm just saying what makes Piccolo black because there's just he got the he got the drip

okay he's always angry and wants to fucking go home he doesn't want to hang around with the white folks okay and he's a great father when given the chance he never shirks his responsibility okay now he's almost like john morant's dad in a way of the jackalow is t morant is t morant and go on and go on being the streets like yeah bro i was raised on the hood you see me i got out the mud

gang man john moran me bro shit what jama rand a gangster bro okay we don't know like We're not litigating this on the midnight. No, we are not. No, we are not. Bro, Jabaran, bro. Somebody got to pull this brother back into reality. No, we're saying. Jaboran got people putting the red dot on people.

He putting prices on niggas head. No, here's the thing. Here's the thing. We ain't doing this because y'all NBA reporters out there getting wild races. I'll be listening to this show being like, he has $200 million. What's he doing out on the street?

That fucking roughy in? I'm like, all right, guys. We can say that you guys got a fucking chill. We're not doing this. Okay. Do we all agree that Piccolo is black? I mean, I have no say. Oh, man.

I think the conversations throughout the last year and change has been very pro black Piccolo. And to the point, you know, they always put a Coofee on him. He always got the head on. It's basically a Coofie, you know. So you might as well, you know, let Charles have. this time and let it slide. He comes from a race of oppressed people.

Okay. He was colonized by Friza. Okay. Come on. Sounds like a very black coded character to me. Okay. Piccolo, it is. He's green and he's voiced by a white dude, but he's black.

Panther is blue. All right? What do we do? Hey. Anyway, I was about to say something that would definitely get a transgressive. All right, look. This has not been a transgression fest, I should say. This draft is going swimmingly.

Who's next? To me... Jeremy needs to bounce back. Wow. All right. Well, at this point, man, he might as well just swing for the fences. I got to rock with my girl from last year's Batman movie.

Go to Catwoman. Catwoman. Guys, you can't, you can't. Wait, which cat woman are we talking about here? Catwoman from last year's Batman movie. We're talking about. Okay, okay. Zoe Kravitz.

I don't know why. I just don't give a fuck about that pitch. That's, I don't know why. I just don't fucking care. Like, it's like, is,

damn. That's tough. Is this after they soft cancel Zoe Kravitz? Is that why? Did they, honestly, drafted Zoe Kravitz during the black superhero draft is like kind of a transgression in it of

itself. What? What? Y'all see what she said on Instagram? She'll be... I did. I did. I knew exactly what she said on Instagram. We were all there.

And we everybody was like, hey, not you. Not you. Keep your mouth quiet. That was a tough thing. I'll be wild. I draft Holly Berry's Catwoman over over his own.

I have some respect. Have some decorum. Y'all were not. here. That was a TNC Saturday Night Classic. You only know here like that. So for real. What a... It's really egregious that Steve is out doing Jomey on this draft, bro. First of all, I'm playing in...

There's so much game left. There's so much game left. Steve, if you let me down, I'm going to be so mad. I'm picking an icon. I want an icon on my draft list, all right? And I'm picking Lieutenant O'Hora from the original Star Trek. Okay. Michelle Nichols.

Okay. Rest, rest in peace. Pioneer of television, incredible actress. Wrath of Khan, she was actually incredible. Like, what's there to be said? Like, I don't know if anybody's terribly familiar with the original Star Trek and what it would be, what it would mean by that. But like, she, like, her character was like incredible. I really, really enjoyed her.

All right. This is a legend. All right. Also, very, uh, force of your heart because it was interracial that was going down between her and captain. The first interracial kiss on television. Television, correct? Yes. They kissed interracially.

And I don't think it was the first one, but it was maybe like the biggest one. Probably the biggest one for sure. Kurt planted one on her lips. Bring that chocolate over to me. Bring that chocolate over to me. And that's kind of how, and that set a stage for your entire life. Right there, you said, as a young child, Steve was like, I'm going to give me a black woman. And I'm going to give me a black woman no matter what I have to.

do. You saw O'Hura and you're like, maybe what I should do is pull off the heart strings. This is the blueprint. All right. My next pick. I'm dipping a toe into the world of video games real quick. One of my favorite games of all time, one of the most important games of all time. Final Fantasy 7. There's a character by the name of Barrett Wallace. He is an eco-terrorist. He loves his daughter. He recruits Cloud to one of the greatest teams in video gaming history. He cuts promos like a wrestler like nobody's business. Barrett Wallace, a fantastic character. He's got a machine gun for an arm. What else can you say?

He's got a machine gun for an arm? Yes. What does he do? I mean, what is, I mean, what's his thing? He's like, he's one of the leaders of this eco-terrorist group that you fight this evil company with. And you got, you go on a great adventure. Yeah, he's kind of cool looking. He's like very, he's very buff.

Mm-hmm. I don't hold you, I was doing research on black video game characters. It's rough out there. You think it's bad at Combooks. Yes. Barrett's cool, though. Barrett's really cool. Can I ask you all a question?

Has Mario ever seen a black person? Oh, my God. Has Mario ever seen a black person? Maybe? Now you're asking what member of the Mario roster is coded black. Can I feel like that's a question? Should we be able to, Luigi Black?

Louisiana ain't black. Yes, he is. No, he's not, bro. Yeah, he's not black. Yeah. What about Wario? Wario's not black. I say this as somebody who really loves all of this.

They got to do better with black characters, man. They got to. They have to do better with black. I'm looking at the black characters that I have on here. And there's some cool characters. And there's some ones that I think might be left out of this draft. But it's not. It's not.

It's not lit. Not really. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, I'm having a great time. I'm having a great time, too. I always have a great time when I'm with you guys. But, you know, I don't know, man.

It's like, is somebody going to take brother voodoo? You know what I'm saying? I mean, it is wild that, we are almost done with our second black superhero draft. No one has picked the Falcon yet. Like, he's still on the board. Like,

Whose choice is it next? It's Jomey. It's my turn. It's Jome. God forbid. Actually, I'm going to use my wildcard pick right here. Okay. Going to the guy who, you know, he's done the Greek pantheon and he's done the most pantheon.

Go with Kratos as my black pick. T.C. Carter. That's right. T.C. Carter's right. T.C. Carter's what? T.C. Carter, voice. T. T. C. Carter. And Christopher Judge And Christopher Judge

If it's a black boy It kind of make you It make you black in the piccolo Crato is blacker than piccolo, bro Crato's is definitely blacker than piccolo, bro You got that little white boy around him Come on, bro Nah, that boy looked like he's from Ireland

He got his mom's features You know clearly, you know You played the second game, right? God of War, Ragn and Rock, you know he's a giant she's a giant you know what I'm saying so he got a lot of her genes

you understand what I'm saying but at the end of the day Quatos is just it's honestly God of the last two God of wars for the PS1 the PS5 really just pursued a happiness

if you think about it okay you know a dad and his son you know fighting fighting their way through their lives you know it's tough for the father

because you know he's got previous baggage and he's But all they're trying to do is take care of his son, you know, and they go on adventures and they walk through the, you know what I mean? Like, he's basically Will Smith and Jaynesmith doing pursuit of happiness. Do you know? A lot of more violence.

Do you know his story in the first God of War game for the PS2? Yeah. Yeah, he loses his wife and daughter. He kills his wife and daughter. He kills him. And then a witch burns the ashes of his dead family onto his skin forever. That's exactly why he looks. quite that's a brother if I've ever saw one well it is my pick now and I'm picking our favorite

hotel time traveler I gotta go with Kang baby about to fuck up the Avengers all right now I don't know if I will be upset about this pick uh in what do we say but we will be you know he'll be next week with him and man breaking bread talking about how I don't know man January 6th might have cool, who knows? If you're a black time traveler, what's the first thing you're fixing? Like, what's the first thing you're going to be real with you? This is my whole problem with Kang.

My whole problem with King as, my whole problem with a black King is he really let us go through some shit. I mean, so did Wakanda. Yeah, Wakanda, here's the, we know that Wakanda is some snobs. You know, but King is a time traveler, bro. You mean to tell me,

you can't set one motherfucker free Kane Because like Of all the people Of all the people that King has been King been Ramatut Immortus

All of these different people We can't get one slave revolt Kane Like I look back Maybe maybe what Maybe Tucson Maybe Tucson That could be King That Tucson could be King

I get it by I look at Kane I got so many questions Kane You didn't want to save Dr. King Is all about you King you know what I mean? And my head canning, right? Remember in Loki, you know, they're like, there's so many gangs, you know, we're all

exist on a da-da-da-da. Maybe, you know, a couple canings went, you know, back to the, you know, 1619. They went back to save Dr. King. They went back and did their thing. And ultimately, it just went really, really bad. Like, the white people got really, really upset, you know. And humanity didn't really recover from that. I don't know.

I would hope that's not how I went down. But I would hope that King has a really good reason for not going back there. I just really hope for not for not helping. Who are you more mad at? Who are you more mad at King or Cap? Because Cap knew everything. Well, Cap goes back in endgame, goes back to like the 50s. And so like he could have saved Alcumac.

He could have saved MLK. He knew Rodney King was about to happen like. Hey, but he, Here's the thing, though, about Cap. Cap didn't have no time for that. What the fuck was he doing? He didn't have no job. Charles, what do you think he was doing?

What's the first thing they... He waited for a long time, bro. That man was in the ice. A man said the world. He went back. It was literally probably about 20 years before Cap picked his head up. I mean, but the first time he probably only lasted 30 seconds,

you can't tell me he can't go to, like, you know, Barl Luther King's house. How does... I don't think Cap cares about Martin Luther King like that, bro. I'm just going to be honest with you. I don't think, because really, y'all don't understand. It was an ice that whole time. Yeah, I don't think Cap cares about Martin Luther King like that.

I think, I personally think that, you know, I mean, he had black friends that one of the Howland Commandos was Derek Gluck, right? So he was, he was ahead of the curve, but Cap. One black friend, really, man? Really? Oh, is it my pick now? Yeah, you got two. I wanted to pick someone that really means something to me,

since all of these characters are kind of in the shadows, if you will. There's a movie from the 80s that if you black, black, you love it. It's a film that probably couldn't be made today because it has culturally insensitive things that get said. But it is a movie about someone who doesn't realize the power inside of them, who doesn't realize that they have a superpower, who doesn't realize that they can operate at the highest levels of martial arts mastery to a point that they will glow. I'm choosing from the last dragon, Bruce Leroy.

the question is, how many of you guys have seen the last dragon? I have seen the last dragon. Charles? Not since I was a kid. Jomey? At no point in my life have I seen the last dragon. This is crazy. I have seen the last dragon and I don't feel qualified to comment on it in any way.

I'm not gay keeping. I'm just saying. You look crazy. You were just like, I'm just saying, hey, I'm not gaykeeping people's blackness. I'm saying we're doing a black person. draft. You draft Bruce Leroy. Nobody cares. There's so many all the characters still on the board, bro.

I know, but I love Bruce Leroy, so I want to have them. These characters don't matter who I'm going to draft. Fucking Finn. You know what I mean? It's just like, you know, I had Action Jackson on my goddamn board. All right, so this is my last one. I got to do this.

It's not about winning the draft for me. It's about making a statement. There you go. The statement I want to make is there's a character we've been way too hard on. Aw. There's a character that we've talked way too much shit about.

Part of being black in this world is given a cultural opportunity to people that look just like you. It's giving somebody a chance. Not going off their past stuff. Not going off the stuff that they haven't gone wrong, the fights that they've lost.

It's about giving someone, a chance. It's about letting somebody represent at the highest levels. That's what culture is. That's what cultural love is. That's what cultural acceptance is. That's what cultural power is.

I am drafted Sam Wilson, Captain America, as my final pick. He is not Falcon. Falcon is essentially the Los Angeles Lakers of fandom. Current Lakers, he can't win the game. Nope. I am betting.

that Sam Wilson as Captain America will finally win a fight. I am hoping that Sam Wilson as Captain America will inspire the team as leader of the Avengers, will put power and inspiration into the team. I'm hoping that his suit will get better. I'm hoping that his tech will get better. I am putting hope. What did Jesse Jackson say? Hope.

Keep hope alive. and this pick of Sam Wilson is an end to the whackness is it into the lameness well congratulations we know who the winner of the Jordan LaForge Award for today's I think is

it's crazy because you're the main one that would hate on Falcon this is a turn of events for you it is guys I got a it's probably my best interest to stop hating on Falcon You have business that you want to do in real life. Man, can you tell us about Falcons fight record in the MCU, please?

So this is Falcons' fight record of the MCU. He lost to... Falcon has essentially been the pinata of the MCU. Whenever you need a win, Falcon is the MCU's jobber. He lost to, let's see. Ant-Man, got his ass kicked. of all the Avengers that could have been there. Falcon loses.

He loses the Antman. He lost to various niggas. Spider-Man. American Civil War. He lost Spider-Man. He hasn't won very many fights at all. As a matter of facts, against the only fight that he was involved in,

I feel like you can actually grant him a win. Rumbo kicked his ass. The only fight that you can really grant him a win is he was part of a win, an unlikely win against the Outriders in Infinity War. Nah, fuck out of here. What about when they were in...

What about when they were in Scotland? And he helped Captain America and Black Widow sneak up on approximately midnight and Corvus Glave. That's what I just said. That's what he meant, the Outwriters. Yeah, the Outwriters. No kids hate to shit during that fight. That's not true.

That's not true. He kicked. He kicked. Kicked. Kicked. You know what I mean? Somebody got kicked. somebody got kicked you know and he won a fight he didn't

we didn't give him participation trophies he don't get that fight like they don't they don't let him win fights but look as Captain America because he's not that was as Falcon

you guys are looking at Falcon I'm trying to tell you not to look at Falcon he barely has to fight win as Captain America he does he won at the end of the season his record has been

wiped clean he is now a winner and so what I'm telling you now is that you guys can't look at it as Falcon. You have to look at him as Captain America and judge him accordingly. No, what I'm also saying is that we can't on this podcast be hating on our brothers. That's my team. My team is Bishop Panthro, Nick Fury, Bruce Leroy from The Last Dragon, and Sam Wilson, Captain America.

That's my team. All right. So I got one more pick. and I'm going with a woman who I was not that excited for her eventual TV show, but I am excited for the skills that she will give my team. I'm going with Amanda Waller because... What a fucking hypocrite. Oh, my God.

Jesus Christ, what a fucking hypocrite? No. No, don't do this to me. Don't do this to me. Don't do this to me. No, because let me tell you why, bro. We know about the Falcon shit. This is a redemption arc for me.

me. That's the difference between you like me. This is a redemption arc for me. I'm redeeming okay. You just shit on her. Like literally you just shit on her. You just shit on the character. I just

shit on the idea that we'd be giving Amanda Waller on TV show. Difference. Difference. I like the character though. Don't be mad because you pick fucking Bruce Leroy and like Bradst's Captain America. You're just going to make yourself look bad out here amongst the people's hating on Bruce

Leroy, bro. I mean, I'm telling you right now, y'all can hang on Bruce Leroy if y'all want. But all that's going to mean is y'all can't go to the Junetee celebration next week, next year. Like, y'all can't, y'all can't hit on Bruce Ler if you want. Hang on them. Keep hating on Bruce Leroy. Go ahead, Charles.

You already, you already like skin. I like my team. I like that they barely let you in. I got the new Black Panther, Black Ranger, Peckolo, Kang, Amanda Waller. Y'all make seen this team. Um, okay. It's time to wrap things up. Uh, whoof. I quite like my team, despite the early, you know, talk around the, the chatter around my squad early.

It's terrible, but I think we've rebounded pretty well here. Um, my final pick, not to say it's dire out here, but, uh, pretty this, okay. I, I, who, don't think Hancock. Like, I'm not picking Hancock. I have some respect for you. boy. I am going with a character who I you know just recently found out

he was black which is really which is really fun for me. I was like, what? That's a brother who knew. Rockwood. Kid Flash. Wallace. Ace. Allen. Yeah.

Joe. What's he in? Oh. What show is he from? He's a comic character. Okay. Comics. You go.

I guess the black kid that they replaced Wally West with, bro? Yeah, man. Yeah, man. I'm rocking with him. Nah, man. Listen, I was doing my research and saying, we got a black Wally Walsh. There's so many other black characters still left on the board, bro.

Probably. My thing was, I was like, I didn't know we had a black one because Wally West, my favorite character from me in Justice. I was like, we had a black, brother. Flash, that's tight as hell. I don't watch the Flash show. And I know Jordan Fisher was on there. I don't count him as my flash.

So that doesn't count. But this is Wally West right here, this brother. I'm rocking with him. I'll choose A-Train over that, digger. H-H-A and they try and killed people. So, you know. Yeah. All right.

So I have a question for the group. Is it a bit problematic if I speculate on a wild card pick? Or could I just pick another pick? No, do a wild card. That's what we hear for. Go nuts. Yeah, go nuts. But then I'm just asking if a.

characters blasts to you guys. Steve, just go to us. Just go ahead. Do it. This is a safe space, Steve. It's just us. My wild card pick is Elmo. Interesting. Oh, wow. Okay.

Elmo. Elmo. Sesame Street. Why do you think Elmo is black? I've heard that's the question that I was afraid of. I've heard that he's coated black. And like I would like

to get the group to weigh in on that. So he didn't do your own research. It's not about whether or not we think he's Black, Black. This is your pick. This is why I didn't want to do this. I would like to ask you why you think he's quoted black. Is it because he is misbehaved as a youth, Steve?

I don't know. Sesame Street clips I've been watching. You've been walling his parents. The original puppeteer behind Elbow was a black man. We know that, right? Yes. So that goes a long way to validating what it is that you said, Steve, because you know how I feel about the people. behind the scenes being black. What I would like to know about from you is what particularly about Elmo makes you feel that he is black.

And I don't think that that's too much of a question for us to ask you. Steve, can you please defend your pick? It was mainly because he was voiced by a black man. This is an, I'll tell you why. I'll tell you exactly why. I'll tell you exactly why.

This is an offshoot pick from our draft in Vegas when Charles had a question about the top three fictional white people. And I, as a joke, said Kermit the Frog. And Van got very upset because he claims Kermit the Frog is black and not white. Kermit the frog is definitely black. So here's the thing about me. I think all the Muppets are black.

All of them? Grover's Black? I think all the Muppets are black. Big Bird is not black. Big Bird is definitely black. Big Bird is definitely not black. Big Bird is a tall, light-skinned digger that everybody loves. Okay, big like big bird

I think they're all black I just don't think that there might be one or two white ones Snuffy's black Snuffy's black Gonzo is Gonzo black Gonzo might be white Gonzo is definitely a white man

Gonzo might be white Gonzo kind of got that kind of whole vibe to be Gonsal might be white Fawzy Stettler and Waldorf Yeah they did Obviously white right

In my life I basically am Kermit the Frog So, nigga, I know firsthand. All right, where are we now? We have tangented it out. We're done. We're done.

We're done. One of the teams. From the top, Van has Nick Fury, Bishop, his wild card is Panthro, Bruce Leroy from The Last Dragon, and Sam Wilson, aka Captain America. Charles's picks are Shuri, Black Ranger from Mighty Morp from Power Rangers, his wild card is Piccolo, and Chang from the MCU, and Amanda Waller from the DCU. Jomey's picks are Frozone from the Incredibles.

Luke Cage from Netflix, Catwoman, Wildcard being Kratos, and the Kid Flash from DC Comics. My picks are War Machine, Lando Calrissian, Lieutenant O'Hura, Barrett from Final Fantasy,

and Elmo. Chris, you're than Elmo. You guys, let's talk about this draft real quick. These are the people that I left on the board, for me. Spectrum, Night Thrasher,

who I've loved to choose. I love Knight Thresher. Mr. Terrific. All right. Sunspot. Sunspot. Black Adam wasn't chosen. I was going to ask,

is Black Adam Black. I think Black Adam's Black. I think he's Black. What are you talking about? The Rock is a black man. Rock is Black. And they were in Ejo. Don't do that.

Finn, A. Train, Calvin Ellis, and Valzaa, two different supermans both left on the board. Calvin Ellis, Valzad. No bloodsport, no dead shot? No bloodsport, no dead shot. Brother Voodoo, Lando was chosen, and I had Action Jackson on mine as well.

You guys never saw that movie. I can't believe you guys haven't seen the last dragon. I feel like that really brings my team down. I want to say two things to the people. Number one, you guys should watch the Super Suns movie, which I've watched since I've been sick with Damien Wayne and Jonathan Kent. It's fantastic.

On HBO Max, you should watch the movie. It's really good. And number two, we need more black superheroes. Desperately. Desperately. Yeah.

Moon Girl wasn't talked about. Moon Girl could have been on there. I love Moon Girl. No one chose Rie We Williams. I don't know if there's enough heroes here for a second version of this draft. What do you guys think? I mean, we could try.

We got a whole other year. How deep in our back? can we get? Nah, bro. This is the last year. And it ain't nobody left. Ain't nobody left. Took Elmo.

It is tough. Took Elmo. It's tough. What about anime? What about Afro Samurai? That's worse. Yeah, but a lot of anime gets quite racist, very, very fast.

You ain't seen Mr. Popo from Dragon Ball Z? Yeah, I've seen Mr. Popo from Dragon Ball Z. Fucking Jinks from Pokemon? Nah, right? It gets real racist, real quick. Guys, can win them all.

Steve, you got a tremendous job doing with this part. This is a wild ranking for our transgressions here. What's the transgressions? Van takes the most

with three. Jomi and me are tied with two. And Charles has zero. Let's fucking go. I told you I'd have zero before then. I fucking knew it. Let me tell you got something

about the transgressions. Hell, fucking. I just want to tell you something about the transgressions. And it's cool about everything that goes on with the transgressions. But I do want to say this. A lot of times I get hit with a transgression just for speaking the truth. Like, Steve, do you remember what my transgressions were this episode specifically?

It can be about my... I can list them off right now. List them off right now. All right. Transgression number one, you brought up Steve's younger parents. That's fucking one. That's a transgression. Yeah.

That was a transgression. Alastica girl. Yes. Why is that a transgression? Bro, that's crazy, bro. Why? It's so nuts, Doug. I really don't think that's a transgression, bro.

Y'all treat me like Rashid Wallace. To where I'm getting... You guys are just ready to give me a technical file. Like, it's like I'm Draymond. It's like, oh, look at him. Somebody flop. Transgression. You hit me with the transgression.

I really do not think that the Steve's family thing is definitely a transgression but I don't think that the Alaska Girl thing is a transgression I'm gonna be real I don't think that it is a transgression man that's a rap guys

the black superheroes draft part two and like most sequels you struggle to match the original but let me tell you something right now I stand by every pick

it doesn't matter who won I want you guys to go to socials and vote vote on best pick worst pick and the Jordan LaForge Award band mic at all three that's so you're so mean to me like you're so

mean to me that's why I had zero transgressions the Jordan to LaForge that actually should be a transgression no no not a transgression on this week's legend We're not banking them for next time. We're not banking it for next time. That's fine.

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The sequel to the Black superhero draft is done. And some of the characters on this list were quite mid. But shout out to Dan's great uncle and he's 40 beautiful kids you know who might be black Zeus

Zeus might be Sean Kemp Zeus Zeus got so many kids, bro I remember like I was watching I was watching Greek mythology Zeus all, bro

Zeus got to be you know how many kids you know how many kids you know how many kids is my Uncle Nushin had 42 children. Wait, wow. My Uncle Nusian had 42 children. How was that possible?

So he had 22 children with his wife, and he had 20 children with the woman up the block. Facts. And, like, my mother, this is a fact, okay? My mother, going in, I was like, I never told you guys about this. this. It's a cross-eye barber named Donna Rae. That cut at Webb's barbershop in Baton Rouge. My cousin, Donoray, okay?

It's cross-eye, but he cut hair. The best barber you ever see. This nigga was a dog. I was asking my mom, it's like, Donoray's cousin, you know, my grandmother's brother or whatever. But I was like, why don't we treat him like he's close or kin? And she was like, because Nushan had so many kids, it don't really matter. It's like, everybody's kid to us. Wait, so what was the cutoff for the family when they were just like, all right?

I don't even know. After number 15, we just, y'all ain't even family. I don't even know because think about this. He had kids and then his kids had kids and then their kids had kids. There's probably some logic to me being related to a law. large portion of Baton Rouge, especially in one area. Like, he had 42 kids. Wait, before we get off this, how do you have 20 kids with a woman up the block?

Nobody got suspicious, like, damn, these kids that this woman got look exactly like the motherfucking kids from up the block. It's almost a situation where everybody had to know what was going on. You know what I'm saying? Because he's, because think about 20 kids. Think about her being pregnant like 20 times. 20 times. Yeah, 20 times.

Think about her being pregnant 20 times. That's why when you say what was Captain America doing, like I feel like you underestimate him. Just look at my uncle new shit. Y'all look at this stuff and y'all think, hey, y'all don't know about the country, Louisiana, Badd Rouge stuff. You know, y'all don't know about this kind of stuff.

Because y'all, y'all different, y'all don't come from these areas. Are you calling me and Jomi New Blacks? Is that what you're saying? Not at all. Y'all. That's what it sounded like. I'm not, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying that there's, that we did better as time went on.

Which is a positive. I'm not calling y'all, y'all not. You know what I'm saying? But I'm still, I'm a little older. I'm still directly connected to a generation where a motherfucker would have. 42 kids. Like, it's just, just, you know, I don't know how we got. Those are Nick Cannon numbers.

God damn. Nick Cannon can't fuck with my Uncle Nushion. That's a joke. Nick Cannon got what, 12 kids? Shout out to Nick. Nick Cannon got 12 kids. My Uncle Nusian have 42 children. Yeah, respect the numbers, Charles.

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