The Ringer-Verse - The Third Black Heroes of Fandom Draft | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: February 8, 2024

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Together, we are known as about midnight boys. All right. Also, socials, Insta, Twitter, Facebook, TikTok,

save Jomi's job. Jomi. What's up? What's going on over there on the old social media's?

Oh, man, it's going great. Hey, I want to thank everybody for continuing to follow. I appreciate you guys, as always.

And I'm excited to make some stuff for you and coming up in the next weeks, man, let's get it. Valentine's Day,

big time for social media? Big time. Big time. Big time. You saw that earlier. I'm trying to show me some stuff using my likeness.

Look, man, I got to make this content. I don't know what you want from me, man. I was talking to somebody when I was out at the ringerverse live shows. Shout out to New York and Philly. Oh, the Rwashables live shows. Excuse me, the Rwatchables live shows in New York and Philly.

And he's another ringer social guy. It's a nice guy. What's his name? David. David? David's the best. David gave me his number, and David said that I could rely on him for my social needs. Sure.

You know, I just kind of feel like that. like we had this connection, you would come to me first. I know, but don't you think that competition in terms of that for social is good? So, like, maybe David should be taking care of some of the social stuff over on the ring of verse. I mean, if that's how you feel. See, now you just set a fire in Jomey because this competition is free innovation. That's what I'm trying to do, man.

Breed innovation. You know, Jomey is always innovating with the socials, but he's the only social person for the ring of her, so maybe maybe Jomeo will bring out. You know what I mean? I see the vision. I see what you're trying to do.

And it's working. Shut the fuck. All right. Browdy, everybody. Yesterday, the House of R. Gave us their winter mailback. Friday, Bloodmash will give you

their thoughts on suicide squad killed the Justice League and on Halo. Now, the suicide squad killed the Justice League game. I haven't heard a good bus. Terrible. It's not been great.

I want to ask, Charles, have you played it yet? I'm going to be on button match. So what do you, like, what do you, like, okay, I don't want to take away from button match, but like, what are your first impression? She's giving me a headache, bro. It looks fine, like, it looks cool. I guess the story looks interesting, but every single thing I read about it is, like, it's the worst thing I've seen.

It's also games as a service, which I also hate, so I kind of get it. Yeah, but it looks. It's just doing too much. Like, not to step on it. It's just, like, it don't know whether it wants to be like Spider-Man and Batman. or Fortnite, and then it's like, oh, we got riddle challenges. And I'm like, nigga, I'm not doing fucking riddles, bro.

Like, come on, man. Dang. They hate it. I also think that we're maybe entering a time where the superhero gaming world is going to become as fatiguing as superhero movies. There's still great superhero games out there.

The question is, are they stretching it? Are they dragging it? I doubt it. I doubt it. I think it's all about making the right kind of game because once we see, you know, Insomniacs Wolverine from the same makers of Spider-Man, I think that's going to be

just as popular, if not more so. Well, it depends if it's good. Spider-Man 2 was fucking amazing. So the Wolverine game, it depends on if it's good. There was some leaked gameplay that I saw and, you know, it looked interesting, but I was expecting to see limbs flying everywhere and stuff. That's also like very,

very, very early. Some real like previous stuff. Shout out to the people at Insomnia. They had a tough, tough time. All right, on Friday, the House of Argo

will give you their tropes course on golden trios. Mm-hmm. What the fuck is that? So, so think about Harry, Hermione, and Ron,

Percy, Annabeth, and Grover. And he's just making up names. Yeah. You're just making up names. Making up names. Fucking up names.

Fucking Lou. Leah Hahn. There you go. Look at you cooking. So how many golden trios are here? We got quite a few and we're going to learn a lot more of them. So it's a trio and it's a golden trio. Yeah, man. And so it's, so what's the

I don't understand. It's like a big three. It's a trifecta in an adventure story. Think about a big three. A big three of a fandom situation. Exactly. Yes. So let's let's name a couple of more. So Luke Leah Hahn. Yeah.

Is it Black Widow Captain America? Iron Man? Iron Man Cap and Thor like the in the game. Well, okay, so Iron Man Cap and Thor because they had a big trio section.

Exactly. Okay. Yeah. Some more. This is, okay, now I'm trying to figure it out. Now, because I don't know these tropes. Every time they come up with a trope, I don't fucking know it.

So my thing is, think about like Batman. Superman Wonder Woman. Golden Trio. Golden Trio. So is the House of R making these things up or are these things that I, that exist and I don't know them? They exist and you might not know that much about them. So I don't know them. Where do you go to learn about them? The House of R. The House of R.

I know. What I'm saying is that like, why do Joe and Mal know about this? And I never heard this. I've watched a lot of different stuff. I've never heard, this is a golden trio. Yeah, yeah. Actually, when I, a golden trio is something that I would assume that was like the name of a Brazzar's video. Oh, Jesus Christ. I was waiting for that. Because it's a Google. I'm on the Google's.

I think what it is is, I think the Harry Potter, like the other things that are golden. They're actually the OG Golden Trio, right? And then you just, you go from there. Oh, so Harry Potter. Oh, that makes sense. Exactly. So Harry Potter originated the golden trio term. Yeah, not exactly

I mean, I would say, you know, Jesus, the Holy Ghost. That's the Holy Trinity. That's different. If this would have said the Holy Trinity, right away, it would have been like, bang, I understand it. They didn't say that.

It said the Holy Trio. So, because, like, growing up, I'm telling you right now, there weren't, I'd never heard the Holy Trio. I'm interested to learn. I'm happy. Like, even when it was Long Wolf and Cove, that took me a second.

Yeah. It's crazy. I don't know. I'm not smart. No more problem. Programming reminders on today's show. We're celebrating the Midnight Boys tradition and also milking something to the very last one.

I can definitively say that this is the final time we do this. The annual Midnight Boys tradition, the third, black heroes of fandom draft, In celebration of Black History Month, we are once again returning to draft the best black heroes across all of fandom.

Same rules apply as last year. Snake draft with picks across movies, TV, video games, etc. All picks from previous years are off the board and ineligible for this year's drafts. Last year's picks. I'm not reading all these fucking names. That's fine.

That's fine. And Elmo is in there as well, which is very interesting because he was assaulted by Larry David. And if you think of it, Elmo as a black character, it completely changed his dynamics of how Larry. Fuck, Elmo. Wow. Didn't you pick Elmo? I probably did.

Elma has a little bit too much dip on his chip lately. What's the deal? Why? Explain it. What did Elmo did? He was checking in. I don't know. He got like a new fucking PR team, you know what I'm saying? He was talking about mental health. Yeah. Yeah, but he was really doing it for the engagement and then at the

end of the week, you're like, oh, it's his birthday. Oh, Larry David. I'm just like, all right, come on. The work is in. I'm not even dignifying that. So love Elmo. Shout out. Larry David, you're wrong.

You're wrong for putting hands on Elmo. It's a kid. I'm a black kid. I'm team Larry David. Larry David beat up a three-year-old black child. And that's according to the Midnight Boys. Sometimes they deserve it. Yeah, Charles.

Wow. Doc. By a white guy. So just remember. Like, you know, think about it, Larry. Think about it, Larry. Bill, to check your man.

All right, last year's picks. Each man-night-night boy will get five picks, including one wild card in honor of his passing. To honor him, not in honor of his passing. Right, sorry. To honor him. This year's wild card will consist of the best characters portrayed by one Mr. Carl Weathers.

Rest in peace, Carl Weathers, man. It's shocking to hear. about his passing such an integral part of my youth and an integral part of all of our experiences in fandom. Random number generator to pick the game order, but no matter what, Steve goes last. Steve goes last. All right, Steve, run the order.

Van, pick a number between one and three. I'm going to pick two. Charles, one through three. All right, so three, two, and one. All right. Sweet. So Charles, Van, Jomi, me. There you go.

All right. There it goes. the order. Let's have your first pick, Charles. Okay. So, in honor, you know, my niggas in the ends, you know, brough, just living their life, I'm going to go with Spider Punk.

Spider Punk. Hobie. Hobie Brown. Hobie Brown. I'm going to go with Spider Punk. Shout out Skepta. You know, shout out the whole connection. My UK brothers, keeping it down. I like Spider Pump. I like the backstory on Spider Punk that he was

fucking Gwen. All right. All right. Well, no. Okay. No. It is canon. It was ambiguous about whether or not they were having sex.

They did a jersey swap. She spent time. He did a jersey swap. It's literally in the movies. Miles was looking at her crazy because he was just like, yo, you wearing his, like, come on. Miles was asking. I mean.

She was living in his apartment. Yeah. I mean, it seems as if, which would make sense, by the way, Miles is young. He don't really know. He hasn't come into his own yet. Think about the Spider-Punk motherfucker is the last motherfucker you want to see rolling up on your girl.

You never want to see counterculture niggas fucking with your girl. Ever. Ever. Why is that? Because, number one, they're almost always sexual freaks. Like, you know what I mean? They've been around a lot. They do a lot.

And then number two, if they're not like beholden to like, society, that's like really inspiring to women. Like, you got to go to your job. He doesn't have to go to a job. He has a band. You know, he makes his own body butters. He's got dreads.

He's got the whole thing. He's cooking in some way. So, like, all of that stuff, those guys, those guys are the last guys you want to see coming for your girl. So I'm trying to, I'm trying to determine how old Spider-Punk is. He's saying between, like, 16 and 19 is what the consensus is. But I'm looking at a clip of, like, X-ray Vision, and it's almost like, I think there's not like 19-20 around there.

And we know that Gwen is, what, 14 years or 14 months older than our boy Miles. And he's 16? Like 16. Yeah. So she's like 17. Yeah. So 1917, no good? Mm-hmm.

1917? No good. So here's it. I'm not commenting on nothing. Hold on for a second. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a second. 19-year-old. Yeah, so he's 19-20.

Like, let's say he's 19. 19-year-old, 17-year-old, no good. Yo, the world is fucking insane. You guys are crazy. I know what, like 19-year-old with 17-year-old, we're saying no good. Y'all are so full of shit. Are you fucking kidding me? It's just a dubious thing to comment on.

I get if I get, I really do understand if this is 22, 23, 24, 25. 19 and 17. Teenagers and teenagers. I get it. Yes, yes. I, again, it feels weird to just comment on. That's all I'm.

That's what I didn't think about. I'm saying. I'm 31. I never have to figure this out. I will say, you know, black 19 is not. a white person's 19. That's all I'm saying. In terms of society.

If a black man's fucking a white girl, if he's just being real, you might have the deep shadow of this. The white man look at a black 19 year old like he's 30. He's like he's a grown man. But see, here's a problem though. Black men, like white men look at a black 14 year old

like the motherfucker's 45. That's true. So I'm not talking about, because we, if we talk, I mean, there's actually a very famous case from Georgia, a kid named Janarlo Wilson. Everybody go look at it. And it was 18, 16.

They put him in jail. He stayed in jail for a long time, right? But that's obvious race. What I'm saying is, it was senior sophomore. What I'm saying is 19 and 17. I'm asking with everybody's fucking rational mind, all right, 19 and 17, no good. You will never hear me even answer that question. I swear to God, bro.

Okay, that's fine, man. That's fine. All right. And we come back right now. Yeah. Come back. And we're so busy. I'm like, okay, cool.

All right. My turn. When I'm watching the movie, I'm not thinking about that. I get online and that's like quite the conversation. I'm like, man, can't believe Miles got his girl took. I'm like, oh, oh, man, y'all. Y'all was watching a different movie. I was not, I thought it was like, it's not like a bit per se, but it's definitely

preying on mom's fear. Like, you know, you like a girl. and he found out, oh, she got a, she got a homie she's really close to. Like, ah, dang. Mom's is a player hater. So, definitely. Right. I didn't think about like that.

I'm just thinking like, oh, Bob's just down back that much. Yeah, he's insecure about his crush. I was like. It's also crazy. I'm not going to allow you could tell this was like direct like directed by two. Not directed because, you know. Yeah. Kemp powers or whatever.

But it's crazy you got two Negroes fighting over the white spider woman. I'll be honest. I'm crazy. I had a lot of thoughts about this, but you guys both need to be careful about discussing this after what I witnessed on last Sunday, bro. After what I witnessed before, Blair Hayden and all of that stuff. I saw what happened. I was in Player Hayden.

Before we get off this, I'll say this. Just real quick, this is a correction. It could be an overcorrection because in the 80s nobody cared, right? In the 80s, it was like, it can't buy me love movie, the girl's boyfriend was in college. There's actually one movie with John Cryer called Hiding Out where he plays

a guy who it's like an accountant for the mob or something and he goes to high school to hide out from the mob to be in a witness protection program and he falls in love with one of the high school girls. And then at the end of the movie after like the last scene of the movie,

she's in college and now he's pretending to be a college student and they reunite. But he had to be in this mid-20s or a little older than that, like doing this whole thing. So it is a court's correction, but 1917, that's crazy. Okay, my first pick. I'm going to pick in the Carl Weathers category. Okay.

I'm going to pick Apollo Creed. All right. So Apollo Creed in the Carl Weather's category, and let me tell you why. Two reasons. Apollo Creed is one of the most important characters in movie history because it's the character that you need it as Rocky's foil to launch one of the most successful franchises, give you Sylvester Stallone also launched a career of Carl Weathers. But then very rarely does a character get the type of retcon and dusting off that Apollo Creed got with the creative movies.

They actually were able to take the character that Carl Weathers portrayed, the King of Sting, the Count of Monifesto, all of that, right? Rocky's foil, also Rocky's Barometer for Excellence, played brilliantly by Carl Weathers. And I'm not just talking about the physicality of it, because when you talk about the physicality of the role, obviously he looked great, he looked amazing. But when you look in Rocky 1 and Rocky 2, the acting work from Carl Weathers in there, it showed that he had actual real chops and those chops we can see for the rest of his career. The reasons why Apollo felt like he had to beat Rocky, like what that meant to him, waning in his career, what somebody that was unbreakable like Rocky meant. It was a very, very important character. the history of movies for a franchise that started off as very important high drama movies than moved into more of action movies than came back to drama slash action with Creed. But like when Creed came around, it was a revelation.

The story was about Apollo's story and Apollo's legacy and that legacy all comes from Carl Weathers, man. So rest and peace of Carl Weathers again, I think it's the enduring character that he played. So I'm going with Apollo Creek for my first choice. And it's a scalable. It's a great choice. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay, my turn. I'm going to just the wise a little bit. I'm going to see how this goes. For my first pick, I'm going to go with somebody who was in a show that we all loved and enjoyed very much. None of us had a bad thing to say about said show. I'm going to go with Assooketano from Star Wars. I don't know about this. Okay, see?

I don't know about it. You know, Rosario Dawson, you know, one. one of us. That's a white girl in those, in them animated series. That's a white girl. Yeah, but, you know, Rosarro,

you know, we've talked like specifically live action, you know, Rosario Dawson. She's not black, period. All right, cool, so we're gonna move on. No, you can,

you know, I mean, you can draft. I mean, I think you're cheating. I'm not going to drive. I'm out, but we're, hey, man,

look, last year we had Elmo Piccolo. We had the COVID characters and all that stuff. Right. She's not black. That's a white lady who voiced her. I'm talking in the, when she was played in live action, by, you know what I'm saying?

I'm trying. I mean, drafter if you want. I will. I mean, yeah, draft her if you want. She ain't black, though. She's not black. Honestly, the way Anna can be treating her is like kind of the perfect example that she's not black. She is literally performing in Tano face.

Like, that's what she is. Jesus, correct. Like she is. She's not black. Man, no, it's like African Ancestry. Come on, man. You know what I'm saying? You went to African Ancestry.com. No, I'm looking at Wikipedia.

And her mother is of Puerto Rico. No, no, no, no, no. We're not talking about Rosario Dawson is black. Yeah, but Rosario Dawson is black. Osokatano. Who played, who was played by. You know what I'm saying? We're not worried about that.

You're doing too much right now. Don't think about that. I mean, look, this is why I would say. She's as black. as Jar Jar Binks is. Yeah, you can take Jar Jar if that's what you want to do. I'm just saying. She's as black as Jar Jarvinces.

That's what I'm saying. But I mean, you could take her. It's a black woman playing a role. I mean, I guess we've been here before. It's a black woman playing a role. It's essentially like, so the only reason, you know what? It's kind of like Watch. It's not like Watchman.

You know why? Because Yaya actually played the role as a black character. Right. And Osokitano, bro. But that character originally was white. Yeah. But like the character itself, it was a black version of Dr. Manhattan. But it was also like weirdly like it was a fascinating thing because

Azamandia's comments on that because it's just like doesn't this feel like a little bit of an appropriation? Because I knew you before and that's not you now. You know, think about that though. Think about Dr. Manhattan. Dr. Manhattan's white man, you know, got pulled apart, particle accelerator. and then what does he do? He's now the most powerful being in the world. What does he want to be?

Yaya Abdul Mateen. One of us. Oh, Steve, can you admit that the black man is the most powerful man in the world? I'm not saying. The original man? I'm not saying that. If you were going to put Dr. Manhattan, what black man would you come back on, Steve? To be honest.

Not be, yeah. It's a same place. Don't turn to me. It's a same place. Yeah. This is black history. This is entrapment. I'm not.

If you could come back. as one black man. Who'd you come back as? And then we need you to beat him for Halloween? No, I'm not going to... Well... Come on, Steve. I mean, I was already Jordy at the live show. If you tell me that you can choose any

black man in the entire world and you're telling me that you're going to come back as Jordy LaForge, if you're telling me that's the most racist thing ever. Like, if you're telling me you can choose any black men, you know what you should have said? What should I have said?

You should have said like Malcolm X or something. No, we don't need you to be Dr. King. No, we don't need you to be Dr. King. Okay. Top three civil rights leaders go. Yeah, you can't name Martin Luther King or-Name Martin Luther King. Actually, you know what? Just name as many civil rights leaders as you can.

Just name as many as you can. This is what it. Off the door for it. Yeah, go nuts. We'll clear out. We'll clear out. Here you go. Yeah, you got it.

Steve. It's all on Steve. MLK. MLK. You can't use it. Okay. Malcolm X, Rosa Parks.

Damn. Keep going, Steve. The Chicago public school system is crazy. Steve, I need you to get to five. I swear to the Steve. Steve, I love you. Steve, I need you to get to five, man. I deeply need you to get to five.

Steve, if you don't get to five, I'm gonna call a ringer all hands. Like, I need you, I need you to get to five. I desperately need you to get to five. We will give you. If you want to the kid, you got two more, bro. It's more of like I'm freezing up because Like I'm put on the spot.

You can't name five, bro? It's more of like I'm worried about getting one wrong. No, that's okay, man. I get that. Yeah, that's what I'm more afraid of. All right. Like, I have a name in my head and I want to make sure that, like, it's right. It's no Google.

No, I'm not getting, here's what I'm not going to do is get one wrong. This is what we're doing next week. This is what we're doing next week. That's what we're doing next week, bro. That's what we're doing next week. We're going to do the same draft with civil rights leaders, bro. That's what we're doing next week.

Bro, that's, bro, that's what we're going to do next week. The civil rights leader draft and we'll take it by decades. The 90s ain't got it. Honestly, we should make it. That's so great. We got to make you, you know, a house in midnight. We got to bring in now.

We got to bring a Joe in. We got to make it a house of the ringer. Right, right. I need CR, Finacy, everybody. See who really. Billy Bowdy. See you really right. Next week, civil rights leader.

Steve, I'll give you time to bone up. I'll be honest with you. Imagine Ryan Ruslo. Like on the draft, bro. I'll just say the name now because I had Shirley Chisholm in my head, but she was a representative. I mean, it counts. Yeah. It counts.

I'll say this, Steve. Right. Shocking. I thought you were the activist, but it's... So you watch Selma and just didn't fucking pay attention. That entire time. We know. That's how we know.

Wait, wait, wait, wait. That's how we know it was for the ass. Yeah. Because it's at least 15 motherfuckers in that movie. Yeah. That is the movie. That's a deep one. Bro, first of all, you could have said Corretta Scott King.

I was great for Corretta. I was going to say, no. Like, you're not true at all. Corretta is. Corretta is on her own, man. Of course. After you haven't watched Rushire 2, this is for Mandela. Yeah, bro.

Come on. Bro, I would have even, you could have. James Baldwin wasn't there? James Baldwin is interesting. He's... Poet and author, yeah. No, he's still a rights leader. Yeah, okay.

James Baldwin did essays and did debates, and he was out there. He was out there, supporting. He was out there. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Stokely, Carmichael, Huey, Bobby, Fred Hampton, Edgar Evers, Fannie Lou Hamer, Ella Baker, It's a lot of people out there.

I'm going to need you guys to learn these motherfucking names. Did we say Rev. Al Sharpe? Yeah. I don't want to get into the whole N-O-I contingent of it because we could go there. Don't think we have the time. All right, let's go. Hey, I want to say something real quick before we move on.

It's a funny bit. All right. Don't take it too seriously, guys. Everybody loves Steve. If Steve asked us to talk about different white people who are in. in indie bands by Charles could probably do it. Oh man,

we're getting to the Arctic monkey. You know what I'm saying? Charles probably do. You can quote a lot of stuff. It's a bit. It's a bit. Everyone loves Steve and I'll tell you a lot of you guys are white right now

listening to it. You can't do it either. We know that it's funny that you can't. Everyone loves everyone. Let's move on. All right, Steve's time to draft. Steve, please draft W.E.B. Dubois.

That's what you. Can I just change my draft to civil rights leaders? Hey, man. Oh, boy. All right. I'm going to pick Angela A-Bar from the Watchman series. There you go. Okay.

Yes. Knight's sister. Night sister. Fucking great show. Enough said. Oh, you got nothing else for it. No. Regina King, no.

That was an amazing performance. She should have gotten a lot more acclaim for it. I fucking love that show so much. And like, I think the sixth episode where we talk about somebody that might also get drafted, like it was. a like incredible pairing of both of like what it means to be a hero in that universe and how that is turned on its head. It's a fucking incredible, incredible story. How disappointing is it that the story doesn't continue or did it end right where it was supposed to? What do you guys think?

Perfectly ends. Perfectly ends. You don't want more. Don't want more. I mean, I would take more, but I think the ending was served, serve a good purpose. And so if they don't want to step on that, that's fine by me. It's a great series throwing through. Yes. All right. Let me ask you a question. The egg at the end of it. Does she have the powers of Dr. Manhattan if she eats the egg? It's the thing where, like, should it matter if she does have them? Or is she just willing to carry on?

Because, like, that's the whole point. Like, at the end of the show, she ate the egg. She ate the egg. And now she, but again, we're trying to see if she can walk on water. Right. And she, like, and you just, like, it perfectly cuts away to, like, just seeing her feet touch the water. That's it. It's awesome.

Perfect. Virginia King, I don't want to say silently because she's. very, very, very popular. But just one of the greatest actresses of our time. I remember when I first found out that she was doing Huey and oh boy and the boondocks.

I was like, what? Like that blew my mind. Just an incredible actress. So, right on the money, Steve. Steve, your draft. All right, and the second pick, it is also going to be from the Watchman TV series. It is Hooded Justice. Oh, very nice. Yeah, because that is

the best episode of that show. of that show. Core Jefferson. Yes. An incredible turning on its head of that character because it turned a character that seemingly was one note into something that is multi-dimensional and incredibly well-storied from bringing back the first episode to now about the idea of pretending to be a

white hero when really being a black man is like an incredibly powerful message, making it so that that hero still never got its recognition, and he was still like very silently tortured by all of that. It was amazing. It's an amazing episode. One of the best episodes of television I ever saw.

Yeah. It was a fantastic, fantastic work. We could go on and on and on about it, but like, taking the construct of a black hero and using it as a thematic driver throughout that entire deal to really be microcosmic of what the entire show is about. Yeah. Of course, it's genius.

Jummi. My turn. I'm going to go in the Carl Weathers category right now. And with one of the, I mean, honestly, one of the best action movies of all time, one half of the greatest handshake in film history, I'm going with Al Dillon. Hey. From Predator. Good choice.

Just, again, one of the fantastic movies. We really haven't seen a movie quite like Predator in a long time. It's just generally a fantastic film, the character that Carl Weathers plays, Al Dillon. You know, he comes in, he's like, yeah, man, it's all good. Me and, what's this? It's Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's an alteration character. Turns out, hey, man, CIA, what's up?

Like, oops, I didn't mean, you know, that whole relationship and just a fantastic movie. It's actually insane how many people are in that movie now that I think about it. Like, Chess Ventura, Shane Black. Like, Shane Black, the dude, famous director, Iron Man 3, you know, ever heard of it, you know, just an incredible, incredible guy. So I'm going with Al Dillon, my second pick. Shane Black also the hottest screenwriter at the time wrote Letharth. The last boy Scott Leithful Weapon 2

Actually did he do Leithweapon 2? I'm more sure that he did Actually kind of broke ground As like a new wave Of like new young screen rather Wrote Leitha Weapon when he was still in college Shane fucking Black Oh also

The Nice Guys from Shane Black Shout out Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Bang Bang Shout out to my guy Aaron Edwards make nice guys too happen Yes You like the nice guys You want more of it

Nice guys is amazing It's, so, you know, you'd be on Netflix or whatever, streaming service, they got you paying $24 for no ads these days on. And you'd be like, I turn this on. We're going to see. I like Ryan Gosling. Let's see if this is any good. And then I watched it, and it was the funniest thing I've seen in a minute, bro.

That was when I was like, yo, Ryan Gosling, this dude is funny, bro. I'd never seen him be funny before. Let him be funny more. Barbie comes out. He's the hottest thing. I was like, I've seen the vision. Perfect. I seat it.

segue from nice guys to Barbie. Dodd. You know it's funny? Maybe we should have, maybe I should have known this because maybe we did this on the rewatchables because we did lethal weapon to on our rewatchables. Why Mel, why?

Martin Riggs dies at the end of of Shane Black's original script. Oh. Martin Riggs dies and the script didn't want, the studio didn't want to let him do that script. Died. I mean, It seems like, I mean, it's more of like an action comedy.

It feels like it was a pretty big downer if he just dies. Yeah, but, you know, then you replace him with, I guess then you don't have Mel Gibson, you know, and then get somebody else to play him. So you get somebody else to play him, the character's dead. I mean, like a new white dude. Yeah, you know. That's interesting. Okay, it's my time to draft.

It's your turn. I'm drafting Black Panther. Wait, what? Yeah. Okay. Now. So you had to be very specific on the Black Panther because we've got two on the board. Yeah.

I'm drafting Black Panther. So. Tochaca! Ah! Not Shuri. There you go. Not Shuri. Not Shuri.

It was already drafted. Chari was already drafted. That's true. Trujah. I want to keep the, Chaka. I want to keep the, the, uh, I want to keep the tradition of having one black Panther in this draft alive. That's good. That's good.

And I am. going to draft Tachaca. Okay. Now, Tachaca's hands up and his downs. Some would say. Some would say.

Kill his own brother. Look, I think it's a question for everybody. If your brother posed a threat to your life, do you think you could kill him? Nah,

I'm not going to kill him up. That's right? You know what I'm saying? That's kind of crazy. Jomey? The answer's no. I'm not killing my brother. Well, it seemed like

you were, I'm asking the The group. I met your brother who is just like I'm a big fan of. He's great. The way you look at your brother is like some real like fucking Mufa's content. Contempt.

It's like, I'm not going to lie. And by the way, I'm going to be honest with you. If we pulled a dark night and through one pool queue down in the middle of Jomi and his brother, you get poked up, motherfucker. He's poking you the fuck up. I can see him looking his eyes. He's going to love this. Yeah, I'm telling you right now, if we do the pool Q situation, you're in trouble, bro.

Sure. You're a hater, bro. I have to be a hater, you know, because he's a good kid. He's very, very, very smart. He's super intelligent. Like, he's going to graduate this summer at, like, 21 with, you know, full four-year degree, right? Just incredibly smart kid. Somebody's got to keep him humble, you know what I'm saying?

somebody got to like that's the biggest haters shit I'm not what you're like I gotta keep him I got to keep you know what I'm saying like you're not going to come in here so how do you keep him humble you know what you know what you know just like I'm sorry like you know what's surety what's up so a little man just put him down yeah like what's up man like what's up man like you got to remind him like I'm in charge you know you come around the corner you know little little little little bump shoulder elbow not elbow elbow elbow's a little two point little little short of and one you know like little joint and B type stuff just going on like uh uh huh Hey, what's up?

Yeah, I'm bigger than he. What's up? Like, you know, hey, watch yourself. You know what I'm saying? Keep him a little, you know, keep him a little tight. But he's a great kid. Great kid. Better than I can ever be.

You know what I'm saying? But somebody's got to, like, you know, keep the lid on. This is so fucking uncomfortable coming from me right now. Just seeing you as the older brother from fucking weird science or the Wonder Years or other stuff. I actually love my brother. I don't actually do this. I don't actually do this. We should play this part at Jomey's family's Super Bowl party.

Hold on. I completely forgot something. How many transatlantic slave points is Steve's inability to name five civil rights workers work? How much? What is Elon's net worth? Double that.

And then that's the number of kinds of letters. What's Taylor Swift CO2 emissions? That's what how many. How many inches does Drake have? Lord. mercy Jesus. Hey, yo! Yo!

What? I'm tell you, I can't wait for how to learn tomorrow. Because I just got to be honest. The way this generation talks about another man's dick, y'all, y'all, it's just so I love that that came out.

I love that that came out and they're still making fun of him. This was a collective. Like, that's the thing. They'll still make jokes. This was a collect. Dr. Miami say is, Dr. Miami Dr. Miami tweeted

very critically he said, yes, Dick enlargement surgery is a thing. Man. Jesus Christ. A lot of meat detectives, I've seen some insane

jokes. Insane jokes. Dick detectives like the meat magistrate was out there. It's like, y'all. They was zooming in on the shit. They just like, y'all, it's so weird though. The cock commandos.

out there in the streets. It's like everybody's like talking about, I can't wait to hire learning tomorrow to give my take. This is real toxic. The Shrewd-Toxic. It's not toxic at all. I think this moment is more important than y'all think it is. This is one of the most important moments in culture.

Please. See, you got to wait for it. You got to wait for it on Friday. But this is one of the most important moments because just the way y'all, the way y'all is particularly the York generation, right? The way y'all was so gleeful. Y'all was so happy to see this niggisers. dick, you're lying.

What are you talking? I can only speak for myself. I get only speak for myself. I'm so happy to see this nigga's dick. I can only speak for myself. Drake has done something different to y'all. And by the way, I hope this doesn't come off as phobia.

It definitely does. Yes. It definitely. Okay. Let's do this. Fuck it. I'll wear it. I don't give a fuck.

What I'm saying right now is, it's one thing, it's one thing to be like, ew, I don't want to say that another guy is handsome. Ooh, it's another thing to be like, oh shit, that Drake's dick Let's look at this dick.

I'm sorry. I'm not that woke. Like, it's like the nigger's dick thing, his dick leaked. It's a thing. It's a thing. But everybody, like, man, 22 was like,

and Aiden Ross were having a beef about who first called Drake's dick a missile. The times are different, and they are changing. That's all I'm saying. It's very important. important moment. We'll get to it next. I'm telling you, bro.

Jomey was so excited about Drake's dick. You just keep doing that. It's not, it's not true. All right. See how we got away from the Transatlant slave points and somehow got on Drake's dick had nothing to do with it. Everything revolves around his dick right now. Steve, by the way, you got off once again. You know what? How about this? What happened was so egregious? No Transatlant slaves points. Because you would have to get a million and then after that you're like Jordan Belfort. You're paying the government back for the rest of your life at that point. So actually you get no transatlant slave points. We're going to do something for Black History Month.

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You know, I got to go with who some people would refer to as the goat. The greatest of all time, you know, people wear his kicks. You know, everybody wants to be like him. I'm going with Michael Jordan from Space Chum. We think we need to have a discussion. What? Why? Is SpaceJol?

What? Why? Is Space Jam? Space Jam fandom? Yes. Is it? It's debatable. He does have superpowers in that movie. Yes, he does.

See, now... He stretches his fucking arm to dunk the ball and win the game. It's very true. Is this a fictionalized version of... Yes, I'm not picking the real Michael Jordan. I'm picking the Michael Jordan from Space Jam. Yeah. You picked...

Bugs Bunny. We really can't run this back. Fucking two episodes ago. I mean, and we were talking about animation. It's different. You picked Assocata. Different. That's what Eli...

Live action. Osokano. Yes, this is live action. Michael Jordan. That can stretch his art. Space Jam. As portrayed by Michael Jordan. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah, I mean, sure. I guess he's out there running with, you know, would Lola Bunny be considered also? Because she played by Zendaya and the new joint. She's a sister. Lo-W-Blobony tunes are there? Daffy's definitely black. Daffy actually gets called the N-word and H.Rawrameh Roger Rabbit.

He does? I swear to God. If you guys go back and listen to Who-Framed Roger Rabbit, there's a part where Daffy is going against Donald. They're going against each other. They're playing the piano or something. Did Donald Duck call Duffie? He says, you stupid fucking nigger.

I'm telling you. Wait, this is, this is in the, when they were playing in the club. And playing in the club. Doing the piano thing. Doing the piano thing. Let me see. This is insane. I work with a lot of wise, quackers, but you are despicable.

God, done, stop a little. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. That's pretty bad. All right.

That's pretty bad. No? I was a kid. I'm like, he says, doggone stupid nigger. I'm like, what, Donald? Yeah, man. What type of shit you're talking?

I don't love that. Donald does come from money, so you kind of expect it. Yeah. I'm telling you. I'm telling you guys right now. So I'm on Snopes right now, and they claim it's false, and they say that Donald said, uh, why are you, god darn stubborn knit with? That's what the closest outcome says.

It don't sell like that, though. What is the complexion of the writer who wrote that? I don't know They be slipping shit in, baby That's all I'm saying So I got one more pick Mm-hmm Yeah

I'm going with the light skin God himself You know He's brought me so much joy He is the leader Of the most successful African American franchise Of all time I'm going with Dom

A.k. A.k. A.m. I'm fast and furious Okay, no I see you brought this up We've already tried to pick up Did he win? I don't think we let that slide No you did not Dominic Torretto

he's black because Ben Diesel is black. He said, you've already tried to, you've already tried to draft him. He's not, he's not, he's not, he's not, he's not, he's not black, he's not black, and how could you argue against Assocataata, but then for this? We let Asocato slip through. Did we let Asocato slip through?

We absolutely did let us. We definitely didn't. Look, all right, fine. I thought that we said no to Assocata. We didn't. We didn't. I think that Asocatano can't be drafted. Ossoc has already been drafted.

But I, but I, does it set the precedent for Dominic Touretto or no? Then the fucking mustard's off the hot dog. If, if that's the case, if that's the case, if that's the case, that's when we're doing.

Of course you got Don. Because you got you got the racially ambiguous motherfuckers that are out there playing. If that's the case, then yeah. Here's the thing.

Dom is definitely black in the movies because most of his friendship group is black. That's not how that. I don't think that works. Yeah, he wants to hang around other niggies. I don't think. The Rock, Tyrese, ludicrous. Rock me the first foot is crazy. Well, the rock is black.

I'm not saying he's not black. Well, then, so this is my thing then. This is my thing. If that's the case, because really, Roman is not his real friend. He don't like Roman. Roman is. Roman is Brian's friend.

Yes. True. So, and him and Brian are like this. Yeah. Him and Brian are like this. Roman is Brian's friend. Yeah, right.

And really, if you get invited to the cookout eight, nine, 10 times. Like, everybody in the fucking town is invited to the cookout. Right.

All you guys are long. That table just keeps long, getting longer and long. That table is as long as the art to work. That table is as a long as long as drunk. Drake. Like that, like that, that table, that,

we're the picnic police now. It's five people that start off the thing. By the time, they got Helen Mirren at the fucking thing. That's true. They got missing nobody at the fucking table. It's like the Batman table. Every villain that they thwart, they invite them. They, oh, it's at the table.

You're Dominic Toretto. Huh? You're Dominic Toretto. Every time I'm at your house, everybody's like, you know, I'm like, how does Van know this person? That person. The table gets long. longer and longer.

That's what I'm saying, but all I'm saying is this. It, like, you know, a lot of them people is my friends, but then some of the people is Kalika's friends. You know what I'm saying? Some of the people

could be your friends. You didn't beat them in a car-based battle. Some of the people are Steve's friends. Steve's kind of, never mind. But like, we've never been more off the race. This podcast is on hinged.

Oh, my goodness. Okay, cool. Dominic Turado. I like that. It's fine. Yeah, yeah. That's what we're doing. Okay, Van.

You're your pick now. Back around. Okay. Let's see here. Let's go off the list here. Um, all right. Uh, and so then I am going to draft Black Adam. Yeah.

That's right. That's right. From Africa. From Africa. He's right. It's conduct. Yeah. I guess it's like North Africa's was, was slaving over the fucking pyramids.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's African. I'm going to draft Black. Adam. There we go. He's got black in the title. Hey, come on. Y'all got to stop acting like The Rock's not black.

He is black. The Rock is black. I just found it funny with Ludacris and Jarl Rule and Roman also in Fashion Friggish. He went to the Rock first. I went to Dominic Torretto. Why would you draft any of the other

niggas if you could draft? Vin Diesel's Black. I'm not saying Vin Diesel's not black, but when he said like, yeah, man, he got a lot of black friends. The Rock was like the first black guy you went to. Like, it's crazy. Motherfuck is really like, this is the type of shit that holds our people back.

For real. Who is and who isn't black? Who's more black than this? Oh, I'm on my agenda. Nah, I'm gatekeeping blackness, bro. Fuck that. It's too much shit going on. What's your phrase about gatekeeping?

That makes no sense. They have to be gates. Gates need to be kept. Gates need to be kept. I'm gatekeeping blackness. Yeah, it's too much going on, man. Especially after what Michael Porter Jr. You said on the pivot podcast.

Oh, my God. I'm gaykeeping blackness. Because the blackness is the only thing that people don't want to be gay keep, gate kept. Everything else gets gay kept and nobody cares. Nobody gives a shit. But now I got to live in a world where Travis Kelsey invented the taper fade. And I'm supposed to be like, it's okay. And he came out, he was like, yeah, no, they set me up on that one.

You know why he did that? that? Why? Because he knows that there has to be life after Taylor Swift. And he knows that after he has the money, a couple of kids, and all of that stuff, he knows that he's going to be just like Amy White House. Back to Black, nigga.

He knows, like, he knows, he knows, he knows that that's what's going to happen. Back to Black. You know we're recording this, right? What? I'm saying he's with Taylor Swift right now. I'm telling you guys right now, they will be married. They will have at least one kid.

And then Travis Kelsey will rule, mark these words. Travis Kelsey will ruin his life by stepping out on Taylor Swift. With a black woman, you're saying. Yes. And when he does that, he will ruin his life. He will ruin that black woman's life. There will be a whole Taylor Swift album called Travis around in the time where she's 39 or 40, which will be the biggest selling album of all time.

Then he will commence to being on Fox News, Sunday to replace Howie. I'm telling you, this is how this is going to go. You're telling me that we're going to get a Taylor Swift album where she's hating on this potential black woman. She doesn't care. Like, the black woman is going to be everything but stopped short of a nigger. She's going to be a vixen.

She's going to be a temptress. She's going to be all of that stuff. All right. Okay, okay. Okay. What? Let me tell y'all something. Let me tell y'all something.

right now. We don't eat this smoke, let me tell you something right now. And you can go back and look at this. This is verified. Kanye West and Kim Kardashian get together. Everybody's like, where is it going to go? Van Lathen says on television,

2011, 2012 maybe, 2011, 2012. It's going to have, I said on TV, I said a marriage and a divorce. I said on TV, I said,

Kanye is at the potentially the point in this career where he's not going to let her go and this is the biggest chance she ever has to get to the next level, a marriage and a divorce. So what's going to happen? You don't go from,

this is not a diss to Taylor Swift who is a beautiful, amazing, talented woman. But if you look at Travis Kelsey's past, the switch up don't happen in that amount of time. Like, Travis Kelsey is going to feel the primal pool

of the African drums very soon. Man, he's going to feel, play the drums, Steve. Steve, play the drums. Travis Kelsey is in his room right now. Play the drums. This is what he's hearing. He looks over at Taylor.

He's like, plays again. Is he like Green Goblin in the mirror? That's exactly. The heart on board. We take his heart. Travis. Travis. Honestly, I just need somebody on Facebook to make the meme of the guy looking back.

And it's just like a black one with a fat assy. Travis is looking. You guys got to look at who Travis has been with. You got to look. If we go to Travis Save Instagrams, I bet it's all TORC videos. All of it, the whole thing. But he will do the right thing for himself in his career

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forward slash active cash terms of play. It's facts. Steve is so done. So you picked Black Hat. Okay. My turn, I guess. Wow. What a turn.

events. What a journey. I'm going to go with, I think, probably one of the more celebrated characters in fandom. I think somebody that we all love in somebody, especially if you grew up in the 90s or watch a look some cartoons. I know I was getting on us because we picked too many cartoons last week, but we love them.

We're going with, I'm going with the Goliath from Gargoyles. Oh, as played by Keith David. That's right. Oh, I don't hate this. I don't hate this at all. Shout out to. our guy Keith David. I've never seen that show.

Gargo is awesome. Gargo is awesome. I remember being very depressing as a kid. I'm like, this is a fuck it. It's hard, though. It's great. This is a really emotional show. No, they get turned to stone for like centuries.

They were fighting in like medieval times. And then they lose a battle and they get turned to stone. Weren't they supposed to be making a live action of that? What happened to that? I mean, it's probably still getting made if we know what Disney does. So what happened to them? So they were part of like an ancient sect of Gargo's, based in the medieval times,

and then they lose a battle to, I believe, a wizard that turns them to stone for like hundreds of years. And then I think this cop lady gets into trouble and then some sort of magic thing

happens and then they turn back to life and then they're like the Guardians of New York. Gary Doberman and James Wan are tackling live action gargars for Disney Plus. This is from October 23. So this is like very recent.

If Keith David's not involved, I will not be there. I'll keep David. Gotta be locked in, bro. Come on. Key David is the main gargle? Yes. Yes, Galaff.

The one, no, no, I drafted. Yeah. Show like. So, uh, rocking with that. Steve, what do you got, bro? You got two picks. I'll go with another cartoon. Um, just a wonderful,

wholesome show that I actually love that's on Disney now. It's in its second season. Uh, Moon Girl from Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur. Hey, it's a good show. I like that show. Played a panda drop. How is that? How is that?

Panda. How is that? Pant. Turn to. How's that? a pander. How's that a pander? If anything, it's a Jordan LaForge. No, it's not a Jordan LaForge. I mean, he's deep in his drive. That's definitely a panda.

So, wait, did you think that Jordan LaForge was a pander? What? Actually, you know what? At first, I did. But then after I got to know you more, I didn't think that it was at all. Because I actually fuck with Jordy LaForge. No, if you go back and you look at the glee in your eyes as he was chosen. That I picked Jordan LaForge? Like, Steve, you were so. So fucking happy.

He was like, okay. Guys, this is character. All right. So he's weird with girls. He's really smart. This is a spot on impression, by the way. Charlie LaForge. What the fuck are you talking about?

So no, you couldn't have been capping about that. It was too genuine. Yeah. I mean, I like Moon Girl. This is a good show. You should watch it. It's really, really good. Bro, he doesn't watch Avatar the last airman.

Yeah, that's fair. And no, in no uncertain. terms, fan is not locking in on Moongirl and Devil's produced by Lawrence Fishburn.

Okay. Really good. Shout out to Moongirl. They got Parker Posey in the second season. It's like crazy cast. So Moon Girl's power is she's the smartest

person around? Yeah, she's like a genius level Tony Stark type. She builds a interdimensional portal in the sewers in New York and then she pulls in a dinosaur from the prehistoric era

and she adopts it as her pet and she fights crime. Yeah. And then they're pals. Yeah. I'm fucking with it. Besties. Yeah.

It's super fun, like, very indicative of, like, early 2000s Cartoon Network era stuff. It was really, really fun. Really nice and charming. Very light. Yeah. Remember, like, in one of the first episodes of the first season, they do a fight scene to sweatpants. Yeah. By Donald Glover, by Chattas Gambino, which is, like, for a kid show.

I love sweatpants. You know, it's great. Great song. Yeah. It's a wonderful, wholesome time. I love it. Should we cover Mr. and Mrs. Smith on the show? I would love to.

It was really good. I enjoyed it a lot. I remember we were talking about it in a separate group chat, and they're like, it's going to be terrible. The leads aren't hot. It's not going to be good TV. Donald Glover stinks. I was kind of like, yeah, yeah.

We know, like, Donald Glover was like my goat for a long time. I don't want to get into it. But show come out, I'm like, hey, it's kind of fire. And then it ends. I'm like, dog, this was awesome. Great time. Motherfuck is Hayton. Hey, well, I think, like,

Originally, yeah, it was just like, we're getting, we're getting too deep in Louise now. But you look at it, you're like, oh, we're going to get the movie. Movie works because it's got Brad Pitt and Angela and Julie, two of the hottest people in the world at their absolute peaks. How will Donald Glover and Maya Erskine replicate that? I don't see it. And then the show does a completely 180. It's like, oh, it's not them being hot. It's about them being normal everyday people who want normal everyday things.

but they also have to like pretend to be together and kill people. And it's like, wow, this is, this works. I didn't think it worked, but it works perfectly. And so if you go in with an expectation of all, this is just like the show or this is going to be like the movie, yeah, you're not going to really mess with it. But if you go on with all my mind, it's going to be excellent TV. I'm shocked that it was that good.

So I'm way too. Like, wow, it's awesome. Yeah. All right. So Moongirl, next pick from the Suicide Squad, Bloodsport, as portrayed by Idraselba. Bloodsport, okay. Yeah.

It's good. It's good period. Yes, I did some research into Bloodsport, and that's a very sad story for a hero. What was, what was again? I mean, the thing was, didn't they just couldn't get Will Smith again? So they were like, oh, we need another,

the guy with guns. He couldn't do it, and then he could do it. And so at first, it was that Idris was going to replace Will Smith. As dead shot? As dead shot. And then they decided not to do that in case they wanted to bring dead shot back

because Will Smith was like, I might want to play Deadshot again. So they brought Bloodsport in. Okay. But yeah, his powers are basically like he can, Lex Luthor helped him build a gadget that can make him pull like a gun from anywhere in the universe.

So like he can basically materialize weapons in any way that he did. Like, interestingly portrayed in the movie. That's a crazy power for a black man. Dude, I was thinking the same thing. I was like everything. Like a gun? life for real?

That's like basically can you imagine Lex Luther being like here's your power Mr. Blackman you can pull any chicken fried chicken from any universe like that's some racist that shit. Wait, you want to know the crazy thing? Like the original in like one of the original

appearances of him where like he was basically when he was a villain and like a mass murderer and like terrorizing metropolis, Superman finds out that he's going by the name of Bloodsport and he was portrayed as a ex-Vieter.

Vietnam veteran that was like going crazy and mad for like the country like turning their back on veterans. And then it turns out that that wasn't actually his story. His brother went to Vietnam and he dodged the draft. Stolen valor. Yeah. Dang. It's crazy. You know, what's interesting for me, like you mentioned like Sluthur, when I was watching him as a kid in the Justice League Unlimited and all that stuff, he was black to me.

who was black Lex Luther Because he looked tanned as shit In the animated joint Yeah he looked tanned as shit Come on Tell me I'm bro

Come on now I mean he's not black He's not black But he looked tan and shit Hmm He did look a little bit Like a mix between Vin Diesel and the Rock alone

First I said like Racially ambiguous For no reason right So I'm mad I'm like So when you first said I'm like Damn why I'm like

That's the kind of thing Like a black man like Lex would do Just give another black man a power to summon any blickie at any time and then be like look these Negroes man out here with these guns and these streets

you know they're not doing that's crazy right that's nuts that's nuts oh I guess it's my turn I'm looking at my list and I realize like some of them already got picked and like the last draft so I got to dig oh here we go boom this guy got done so dirty

in the first movie ever seen him in All right. Shout out to shout to my homie McCall hanging out. She was like, yo, you got to go with

I was like, yo, you're right. Going with Darwin, baby. Darwin, man. We can't do this,

man, first class. We can't draft Darwin. What, what you mean? We, what you can I drive Darwin? What?

Why can I drive Darwin, Charles? Because he represents everything that's wrong with the way white people see black heroes. You know what I'm saying? Talk about it.

I'm just saying, like, my man has the power. We've talked about this a bunch of times. This man is able survive anything and then the white man still finds a way to kill him like you put him on his draft you just like you're just reminding us of the pain it is tough it's really hard our boy

darn went up that but i'm trying to try to elevate him you know what i'm saying i'm trying to you know you think about how how far we've come since uh first class i mean my man looks have y'all seen him he looks jacked he's like in the gym oh yeah he's ready for mr terrific yeah he's like i was He's like, all right, man. We met him at a largest thing. We talked about, yeah. He's a great dude. Is he still holding on to that?

Is he like, yo, y'all don't even know. We talked about, we talked to him about it. And he still, Phil Salt is not good with him. And Phil Salt, and also he's like, all the time. Like, that's the thing he gets all the time. Everybody was like, yo, we did your darn. He's like, yeah, man. I don't know.

Like, you know, you go, you do it and it sucks. But shout out. Shout out to him, man. Yeah. Shout out Eddie. He's playing Mr. Terrific. Yeah, Mr. Terrific. It's going to be a big deal.

It's got to put the weight on. Got to get swole. All swow up. Swow up. All, who's drafting next? That'll be Vann. I am drafting one of the signature voices in all of sci-fi that belongs to one of the greatest villains in the history of sci-fi. I'm drafting Darth Vader.

All right, no. No. No. Okay. He can't. He can't. Okay. Because he's voiced by James.

James Joe Jones. And when they take off, whoa, when they take off that mask, in Return of the Jedi, what is under that mask? So here's the deal. This is the reality.

If we've opened it up to black people being able to play characters that are essentially not black, which is both what you guys did, so Catano is not black. What is Anakin Skywalker? What is Anakin Skywalker?

That is a white fucking man. And so is Dominic. Toreno. Whoa, whoa, all right. So, so is Dominant. Okay,

so this thing, here's the thing. You guys, see here's the deal. No, no, no. You guys, we've opened the can of worms. We've absolutely.

Oh, we're not, we're not, we're not doing that. Answer this. Just answer this question really quick. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on.

Dominique Terell's brothers, John Cena. So if we're not, if, if we're not, we cannot with Dartmouth. We saw, we saw his dad.

We know the whole family. It's not a black character. When fucking Darth, All right, I'll ask you this. Steve walks into this, into this booth, right? He gets a Darth Vader mask from Target. And when he starts talking, he has Jomey's voice. Is he black?

Well, I'm asking you, is Dominic Toreto black? Yes. He's not. So he's not black just like a subcontano. Have we ever seen Dominic Toreto's family tree? Have you ever seen my family tree? I mean, my family tree is a Confederate general. So the reality.

So the reality is that has a... Dominique Torito is not a... He's not black. That he is. He's not. The character is not black. It's not a black character. He's not black.

He was street racing stealing DVDs. Jordana... Jordana... Jordana Brouser is his sister. We're not black. This is... This is... What I'm telling you guys is,

by the logic... No. No. It's a little... How? It's like the... We'll ask this. Is Luke Skywalker black?

No? Is Leo Black? No. Wait a second, though. Wait a second though. Is Jordana is Assocato black? This is the character black? She's not even human.

She's not even human. Wait, no. So you guys are... We're not doing that the United. What you guys are doing? Hold on. I'm actually didn't want to draft Darth Vader. I'm drafting Darth Vader on purpose.

Darth Vader isn't even on my board. Right. I'm drafting. It's unprecedented that that was said. It's on preceding to. I'm drafting it to show the holes and the logic that you guys have laid out. What you guys have done is you guys have said that if a character is portrayed by a black actor, then that character is black, right?

Was James old Jones in the fucking suit? He is the iconic, iconic portrayal of Darth Vader, right? It is him, and he's played Darth Vader for decades. So here's what I think I've figured it out. I think I've solved the problem. Because at the same time, wait, at the same time, if we're talking about voices, he drafted a fucking gargling. Which is not even a human being.

He's not wrong. And so, wait, you guys don't understand this. This is the problem with the youth. I have you guys in a figure four leg lock of logic. It's inescapable. You draft, you, like, you, like, you drafted someone that is an animated character. Okay. That is voiced by somebody else.

By that logic, plus the other logic that you guys have put out, I can draft Darth Vader So you're taking two precedents putting them together Brough I'm making a precedent sandwich President Panini I think this is

Oppressed precedent Panini Because I like mine A little toast grilled I think when they put the pinnini now I want a panini now I want a panini now

Here's where it comes Here's where it comes I think Here's where it does what Here's where it comes I think this is where the question Here's where it comes guys Come come come

Gentlemen, you got to, I see if you got to break that out. You got to break that out. I don't know what to do. You got to break that out. Can, like, if this character said the N-word, what would be cool with it? Yeah. All right, you're lying, bro.

If fucking the Socatano said the N-word, would you be cool with it? If it's Rosari Dawson? No, what do you mean? If it's Rosari-Dawson, you guys, the character isn't black, the garg- If the gargol says the N-Ward.

If that gargawl said the N-word, With Keith David's voice Bro. First of all, in the last draft draft, we already drafted Panthera, right? So we've already said, which trauma would do. Pickleow could say that in word.

Let me ask you question. Is the person that that voice is Piccolo Black? Ooh, that's a good question. I don't know. Let's look. Let's look. Is the person that, because

Damn, can Elmo say the N word? Yes, definitely. Elmo is that niggas. I mean, he's a little young, though. I'd be kind of crazy. Three years old. Three years old. It's kind of crazy.

It's mad kids. saying it anyway that three years old. I don't know where y'all from. If the person that voices Piccolo is it black, I want y'all to put fucking, what's his name

on the board and shut the... No, it's been three different niggas. None of them are black. One is Scott McNeil. The other one is Christopher Sabat. And then the other one, and then the other one,

shout out to Toshu Fugahua. Put Darth Vader on the board. Nah. bro. No, I think I think we got to let it white white children

wait, wait right, I think we got to let it slide. You got to let it slide. You got to let it slide. By the way, Charles, I'm not saying this is going to win the draft.

It's not. Because I think Charles's team is pretty formidable. But what I'm saying is this, I'm saying that for the last and final draft that we do of this. By the real cook.

It makes. sense to just fucking break the draft apart, fucking blow it up. And the reality is, you set a precedent. I said a precedent. You set a precedent. The precedent has been set. Darth Vader is black according to the Midnight Boys.

Put them in. It's no way around it. You guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, there's no way around it. You cannot argue it. I'm not arguing. Tough. There it is. There you go. Skywrapher legacy.

The whole scene. The whole. thing is the whole thing is changed now. Wow. Skywalker legacy has changed. That's really. Yeah. Oh my God.

Charles, your turn? All right. Carweth's category. Honestly, I read, like, I read an interview, and this interview almost made me cry, but it made me, like, appreciate who Carwethers was. I'm picking him playing himself on Arrested Development. Damn. That's good.

Because, damn, that's so good. There was this interview where it was, like, Like, I think it was the creator of one of the writers was calling him up. And his idea was he's like, oh, I want him to play Apollo Creed. I want to kind of like make fun of this. And he calls up Carl Weathers and he's like, yeah, I'll be down. But can we not make fun of like Apollo? Like, that's what everybody wants me to do.

Can we like make me a real character? Make me cheat. And I think it just speaks to who he was because Carl, Carl, Carwethers, never wanted to be pigeonholed. You see what he did on Mandalorian. He was a director. He's a legend. and I just think if you watch the arrested development,

like him on it, not only is he like the funniest person, damn near every single time he shows up on screen, but he just does it with such grace. He's so multimensional. What's the line? You put this to that. You get a bone with some bra,

then you got a stew going on. You got a stew going. It's just he was so fucking pitch. My favorite is, I, he's like, hi, Lucille or whatever. Like, this is Carl Withers. And he's like, he just shakes his in. He's like,

I buy all my cars at police auction. That's so funny. It's like, when they're at the Burger King is like, you know, they get free refills? Yeah. And that was his idea. Carl Wethers was like, yo man,

you should do something like, make me really cheap. And I'm like, dog, like he plays it with pitch perfect perfection. Like honestly, the thing that made me also sad about his passing is like, you realize how much like you miss someone once they're gone,

but you don't realize like, damn, like, not that the industry did him dirty, but you're just like, oh, he has so much more to give. Should have been bigger.

He should have been, bigger. I mean, he had a great career. Dude. No, a legendary career. He had a great career. It's just one of those people should have been bigger. Looked great. The charisma was great. The acting chops were all there. We're all there.

He should have been an action star. Like he should have had like those like like and he did but it wasn't to the level of like when you go, you're just like man, man. Man, why wasn't he more of a leading man? And it's like he did have a chance in a movie called Action Jackson, which is a fucking great movie. just has to make a good amount of money.

Right. So I'm saying if that had been like a gigantic hit, maybe so. But maybe it speaks to the fact that maybe people weren't quite ready for the black action hero in that way. Because a couple of years after that, then comes Wesley Snipes. Wesley Snipes pops in. Shaft had been there. That had been kind of the first one. Wesley Snipes, because we talked about this a little bit.

Carl Wethers is a little too early because then you get Wesley, you get Will Smith. Then it's full on. I think he was a generation to. early. Yeah, and to be fair, like he, Apollo Creed, all these things

helped break down the doors so you can get a Wesley coming through and be like, no, like, guys, I'm here. But like shout out,

like I think Carl Weathers on Arrested Development is one of his best performance. Just all the black, black exploitation stars that were doing action movies and all of that, we recognize them.

And, you know, we're talking about the big time crossover stuff, but Charles is absolutely right about Carl Weathers. All right. Charles,

your final pick. Since the precedent has already been. I'm scared. I love it. I'm scared. The precedent. One of my favorite movies in my letterbox four, okay, made fucking money hand over fist, okay? You know, shout out to the mom who realized like she made sure her son was paid for the rest of his life.

I'm going with a little cub named Simba. Simba from the line. Yeah. No. Jason Weaver. Oh, that's right. Little Simba. That's right.

Okay, because I was about to say. As a child portrayed by Jonathan Taylor Thomas. Yeah, but the- Wait. Oh, you can't draft him. Yes, I can. No, you can't. When he was a kid, it was Jonathan Taylor Thomas.

But as in a, was it, was in Matthew Boudre? No, no. Who is singing? The singing the songs. That's not enough. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. The precedent is already set.

The president is already set. But you, but it's- Who is fucking Darth Vader as a kid? It's a split portrayal. What is Simba then? It's a split portrayal. Okay. What is Simba then?

Okay, so we might have opened the can too far. No, no, no, no, no. Because, because, because, Simba is not voiced. I'm not fucking redoubt. Simba is not. Cimba is not. Who sings I just want to be a king? Like, when you want a Broadway.

Who sings? Who sings it? It's black boys that are Simba. Yeah. So you draft them from the play. No, I don't. But the movie, in the movie, in the movie, in the movie, he's voiced by Jonathan Taylor Thomas. All right.

Who plays, who plays fucking Darth Vader in Obie? Okay, so, so here's. Hayin Christensen. But who does. the voice. So here's the problem. Right. Here's the problem. I mean, he's technically Anakin then, but fine. If we're not doing the split characters thing.

You look at the Wikipedia, you go, like, who voiced Simba? You got Matthew Brodyk, first, a white man. Donald and Taylor, Thomas, second, another white man. Joseph Williams, third, another white man. And then all the way down at four is Jason.

So Charles is doing the voice one drop rule. That's what we've been doing that whole fucking time By the way I'm against it all But this is But this is how it goes This is how it goes So basically for you

He came in he saying the songs That's enough I will say this If those Disney checks are still fucking clearing My nigger was fucking simple Hold on for a second Let me make a call real quick I don't love that

I'm scared I'm very scared Oh no Jay Dub What's up brother How are you? How are you doing my man Oh my god

You're on Like you're on the Midnight Boys Podcast right now I'm just asking you something Oh man what's going on My bad I'm sitting here in this makeup chair Man what's cracking

Oh yeah about y'all shooting the plug it Y'all shooting the new season of the shy We're doing season six of the shot right now Season six of the show I give it up for Jason Weaver right now. So fucking legend. Let me ask you a question. I just want you to answer the question as honestly as possible.

Sure. If I were to ask you who played Simba in... No, don't do... You're not a leading question. You're about to ask them a couple questions. Right, okay. Let's ask you a question. Who played young Simba in the Lion King?

What would you say? Most people would say Jonathan Taylor Thomas. Now let me ask a follow-up question. Ask a follow-up question. Would you say the deal? Disney checks are clearing. Therefore, you are also Simba and maybe the most important, Simba. Well, thank you.

I appreciate that. I mean, now that people are aware of the fact of my contribution to the Lion King, I think what makes me more proud than anything is that the community, the black community, associates the Lion King or that role with me now. Oh, this is cooking. Come on there. Wow. Come on there.

I love Jason Weaver. So I think the big question that we're all trying to get to, Is Simba Black? I mean, as far as I'm concerned, he is? Let's go! There's a fucking job! There we go! It rides.

Appreciate you, J-Dubb. Thank you. I appreciate you, man. Love you, dude. Love you, too, brother. Jason Weaver has spoken. That was fucking awesome. That was incredible.

That was amazing. Wow. Jason Weaver has spoken. Chalk it up. All right, where we're going now? That's you, man. Your last pick. Now, we put a new finish.

go off the rails here, bro. Who else can Van call to make sure? I think I got one that's kind of crazy. No, funny. If somebody picks Thanos, I'm about to fucking walk him. No, no, look. Josh Brolin can't say that. How big do you think Thanos is? Well, this is like the penis is

Charles Holmes. What? Might as well talk about it. This is how, this is what this is what you are saying, though. It's crazy. You're right. This generation is follow a question.

Answer, honestly, if you had the infinity gauntlet, would you use it to enlarge it? I don't think so. I got a, I got a, it's more important problem. Yeah, yeah.

It's not important thing. If it's like a multiple snaps thing, if it's like, if you get like five snaps. It's a fair question. If I had the infinity gauntlet, again, more important things, now if I had Mr.

Fantastic Powers, you know what I'm saying? Or you know what actually is the better thing? You don't have to change your body. you can snap and make every man in the world lose 50% of their penis. That's so haters. That's crazy. That's the most haters.

Charles would do that. That's the most haters shit I've ever heard before my life. Can you imagine just waking up one morning and your dick is half the size because of fucking Charles? That's literally, that can't be honest with you? That right there, we have to break this out. That right there might be the single most haterish fucking thing. What? I wouldn't even think to do that.

Not it. Everybody must suffer. That might be the single most haterish statement that's ever been made. How? Imagine the Avengers got to come back,

bro. Be like, yo, it's like, it's like, Iron Man, Thor, Cap.

You're like, yo, here's the thing. Tony's gonna wake up one morning. If that happened, there would be like, fucking 20,000.

Because everybody would sign up. We are finding him. Everybody was, that might be the single biggest hater move I ever heard. You know, I'm a draft Mufasa. I'm going to drop.

I'm going to draft Mufusso. James Earl Jones. I was looking for all the roles that James Earl Jones was placed. I'm looking at all the roles. And it's not as many cartoons as you would think. No. But yeah, I'm drafting Mufasa and my draft is done. What a fucking crazy situation.

How off the rails can we get, actually? I mean, let's try as well. You know what? Because Steve has to draft a car with this character. I'm not going to take Samurai Jack. I'm going to take Martian Manhunter. I don't think anybody's taking Martian Manhunter. He's been taken.

That's a friend. You got taken the drafts before. There's no way. If you tell me right now, I'm looking at it. Nobody's dressed in Martian Manhunter before. I'm looking at. Nobody's taking Martian Manhunter sucks. So it's part on.

You mean to tell me it's been three drafts. Three drafts. Nobody took Martian Manhunter. Nobody's taking John. Yeah. Nobody's taking Martian Manor. We wag, bro. Why?

Well, Jomey takes Martian Manhunter. Marcian Manhunter is cool. No, he's not. We haven't taken Marshal. Are you guys sure? I'm looking at it. We haven't drafted a Martian Manhunter. Oh, nah, we some whole-ass niggas.

That's a good draft. I mean, like, he should have been gone, right? He's actually black. Martian Manhunter has no feats whatsoever. You don't like Martian Manhunter? No. Martian Manhunter is so cool. You know, like, an alien that came to the earth and just like,

hey, I'm going to be a black man. I'm a I'm oh No, I'm trying to be riding Gosselin And your weakness is fire You can't have fucking scores, nigga Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa Steve Get your hands ready to play the drums

Okay Why? Why? Charles So are you saying That if you had your choice, you wouldn't be black? If I was an alien

Coming here from Mars I've seen what my people have been through I'm trying to play life on easy people No, that's crazy, bro. It's fine. That's not during black history. Wow, man. Bro, you just, you double down.

Now you just hate it on all. I thought me not naming civil rights. I don't. I don't know. Bro, you've been one-uped, bro. That's wild. That's one million transatlantic slave points for Charles, bro. I don't.

I feel so much better now. I feel so much better. I'm standing on that shit. I'm giving my top five white men I'll come back as, bro. Thank you. Go for you. Go back. Lock you.

Top five white men that you would want to be other than be black. Ooh. Whoa. Oh, no. That's what you said. That's what you said. That's what you said.

By the way, if I'm a Martian Man Hunter. Hold on. I don't want to hear that black king shit from you no more. Give me your top five. No, because y'all are pandering. Pandering. What? You came here and said it was whack that a dude came to be black.

You said, I would not want to be black. You said. You said, because there's a thing. If you had a choice, you would not want to be black, bro. That's what you said. Let's be. Let's be clear. It is whack because the Martian Manhunter is from fucking Mars.

He could have been any black man. And he decides to be some random motherfucker. Okay, so that's what we're doing now. You could have been Denzel. Stand on it. Do a favor. Denzel already exists. Yeah, he got to be like, yeah.

Why not? Stand on it. Now we've got to kill Denzel. Now you don't want to be a black man and you want to kill one of the most prominent black men. I don't want to kill Denzel. Martian Man Hunter would. So let me ask you this. Go ahead and tell us the white man you want to be.

instead of being black. Off the top. All right. I already said Ryan Gosling. Ryan Gosling. Paul Walker. Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks. Okay, cool.

He had a black son. Someone could have drafted Chet? Hey, it's a lot of games. Someone's still there. Like, like, shout out to Chet. I fuck with Chit. Damn.

Keep going. Who else? Who are the other white? Who are the white? Only three. These are the white guys. Charles, I'm going to need you to name. Get the five.

Get your name. Get your name. Next, I need you to get to five. Wait, can I do white women or does it have to be white men? Marissa Tomey would be number four. Okay. You know what? I got a shout out.

I got to come back as my nigger Robert Downey Jr. Let me ask you a question. If you come back as Marissa Tomei, how fast is it before you DM Drake? Oh. Oh. It might be the first night. It might be the first. See, our excitement.

That's what I'm saying That's all I'm saying Oh my God Steve close his cell Okay All right Well Charles actually took my Carl Weathers pick

Because I loved him In the rest of development But I'm going to take As my second pick for Carl Wisler's It is going to be Chubs From Happy Gilmore Oh wow

Damn Chubs are still on the Chubbs was on the board Coles weather had hits bro That's a classic He was so funny in Happy Gilmore, like actually incredible. And I've been seeing a lot of that, like, after Chubbs dies.

And then he's like, oh, I've got my hand back now. And he's playing the piano and all that stuff. Oh, so beautiful. And I was like, wow, this actually, like is really sad. This really makes me so sad. I think, like, the more important thing is, like, he's so incredibly, like, present and wholesome and, like, funny. And, like, I've never seen, like, a person be that dynamic in their

by being like a hard-ass action hero, Apollo Creed, and so funny, and Grief Carga. Like, we're, like, the undrafted Grief Carga, because he's like, because he's so, like, that versatile, like, incredible, incredible character. But yeah, Chubs. Grief undrafted, Action Jackson, undrafted. Yeah. You guys haven't seen that happen. That's before my time.

No. Yeah. So action, Jackson undrafted almost makes me, it was really between, Apollo, Apollo and Action Jackson, although the Predator performance, I haven't seen them on Arrested Element. I never watched it. The first three seasons of Rested Development are some of the best joke writing in television.

Top 10 comedy TV shows. Only the first three seasons. Only the first three seasons. So isn't there two shows like that with white people that are just like each other? Huh? Isn't there another show that became popular that was just like Arrested Development?

Succession. Succession, yeah. No, not succession. Sophia Vagara, she was on. Oh, Modern Family? And aren't those shows? Not even close. Not even close.

I like Modern Family, but it's not in the same. It's not. There are some jokes that take, like, well, I'm sure watching a lot took years, but, like, seasons to pay off. Right. That are absolutely, some sight gags. The Onyong joke. Oh, man. Payoff at the end of season three is fucking incredible.

It's absolutely hilarious. One of the best comedies. Man, Modern Family ran for 11 seasons. Modern family is in, like, I've only seen three episodes in total of Modern Family. I don't think I've seen. I've watched it all. I love Modern Family. I was in Locked in.

I get, like, clips on TikTok. I'm like, oh, this is pretty funny. They won the Emmy for a million times. It was so many. Bill Russell Self-Tix type stuff. Yeah, no, it was nuts. It was like, LeBron in the finals. Like, yeah, he's going to be there every year.

Like, that's, they went on a crazy run. I guess at some point I got to lock in because they ran away with that thing. It's good. For years. For years. The episodes I've seen it, they're pretty good, but I'm, like, not even touching Arrested Development. Like, that's, like, the jokes per minute are insane.

Arrested Development is one of the most influential TV shows. Like, without that. Old Simpsons writers. Hey, gave us our guys. For better or worse? Some would argue. Look, I mean, you know, which guys? The Russo Brothers.

The Russo Brothers. Like, I don't want to say started, but they got their big junk directing arrest development. Then they went to community. And then. They've also directed a couple of movies. Welcome to Colin Wood. And then the Netflix.

Nobody saw that. Yeah, because I thought Drus Brothers came from community and then they... No, it was a arrested development first. They were comic. I think they did a lot of sitcoms. They did. They did do a lot of TV directing. As directors, right?

Not as directors. Patty Jenkins also directed an episode of a rest of element. Yeah, but she had been around for a while. Of course. Yeah. So what are we, what's the draft looking like, Steve? What's the running down for us? All right.

So the draft. is as it stands. Vans' picks are Apollo Creed, Black Panther Tcha, Black Adam, Darth Vader, and Mufasa. Charles's picks is Spider Punk, Michael Jordan, Dominic

Torretto, Carl Weathers from Arrested Development, and Simba. Jomi's picks are Osoketano, Dylan from Predator, Goliath from Gargoyles, Darwin from X-Men First Class, and Marsha Man on it. And my picks were

Angela Abar from Watchman, who did Justice from Watchmen, Bloodsport from Suicide Squad, Moon Girl, and Chubs from Happy Goal. So just off the rip, I think Van is going to run away with this. I doubt it.

I don't. Charles is formidable. It depends on how the fans view the strict, how strict they are with the rules. Because you got Simba or you got Mufasa, Darth Vader.

and Apollo Creed, that's tough. We take out something. This black, it's over. Okay, first of all, it's over. Hell of a run. Hell of a run. We did it, man.

For your run. And I want to say something, this is a pretty, a pretty even draft, if you ask me, besides Steve's picks, which we appreciate, Steve, your participation.

I think my picks were all right. I don't know. If Steve kind of went during Blackishamoff, three black men? That would be very funny if the audience did that, by the way, which I would be for. I will say this,

we've had a lot of fun doing this over the last three years. You know, the podcast has helped us, you know, jail our way of doing it, and we have a very special way of doing it. Some people like it.

Some people don't, but that's just the way that we do it, okay? And I would say that, I hope that the fact that we can't get out of three seasons without drafting, without having drafted,

the majority of the influential black superheroes that exist should be very inspiring to everybody out there to create more black superheroes, and some that we didn't draft here that are really cool superheroes. I just want to name some of them and everybody like Fixin, Nubia, Calvin Ellis Valzad, Divinity, icon from the Milestone Universe,

Night Thrash. There are a lot of heroes out there. Aldous is Hawkman. I mean, I just had a long conversation last night. Aldous is Hawkman. Like, there are a lot of people out there that hopefully they get more shine, a deeper lore and a chance. Anybody else want to say something like that?

So we're doing this, and it's fun that we do it, but it's also we're doing it not just to honor call Weathers, but to talk about the long legacy, but also the limited legacy of black superheroes and like how that works and how that goes. You said it all right there, man. Excuse me. Like this is like a very pivotal point,

and hopefully we get to be able to have more black superheroes in the future. And so going forward, people can have more than we don't have to draft Simba and Mufasa in these things, you know what I'm saying? When we could have drafted other characters, obviously we were just playing a lot. We don't want to draft the scrubs. The question is, I guess for us right now, the next time we do this, will Charles be black? Because there's a chance that Charles has opted out. I'm in L.A. now. So, motherfucker, I'm one Illamada meeting away from just hot to the other side. They got that skin lining cream?

Come on, bro. I don't need too much. You're going to come back like Michael Jackson after the Pepsi commercial, bro. Wow, wow, stuff. What are our goals for this Black History Month? You guys got goals? I want to make sure we educate Steve. That's true.

But unfortunately, Steve, will you use this education in dark ways? Will this make you even more of this activist? No. Could you imagine Steve got his, like, his Hewey Newton book on his hip? Oh, man. He's going to be like LeBron James always reading the first page. The first page. He's like, yeah.

He's going to be at February 1st, 2025. He's going to be at a coffee shop with the Malcolm X biography first page. And then someone's going to come out. Wow. That's a good book. You don't take off his Malcolm X glasses. You know? Got the cap?

No, it's like, it's still on the first page, but I'm just like looking. Honestly, Steve, if you come to the Super Bowl party, like, with the fucking, with the black with a black, red, green African necklace, the shape of verity. You know what I'm saying? Like, I would love you forever. You sure? You don't want to?

If you came back as Tom Hanks, I'd love you forever too. Oh, man. When we get together on the mic, a lot of stuff happens, but there's a lot of stuff. No, this is in-studio behavior. This really is in studio behavior. For the audience that's listening right now, we'll reassess.

We'll re-assess. We'll look at the tape. We'll look at the tape. We'll look at a lot. A lot of stuff. A lot of things look at. We, like, after reviewing the play. Yeah.

We're going to go back. We're going to look at the film and we'll make adjustments and we'll see what happens next week. That's all right. Follow some social socials, Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, Save Jomey Job. Yesterday, the House of Arr gave us their winter mailbag. On Friday, blood match, will be giving you their thoughts on Suicide Squad, killed the Justice League and Halo that is featuring the one and only, Charles Holmes. Also on Friday, the House of Arr will give you their tropes course.

Golden Trio's. I'm going to listen to that. I'm going to watch that. I'm going to learn more about it. LeBron, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosch, Golden Trio. Okay, Duane Wade, Chris Bosch, Porzingis, Jalen Brown, Jason Tato? I wouldn't say that.

Okay, cool. No, I wouldn't say that. D.Lo, LeBron, A.D.? I would, yes. Yes, I would say, according to Darwin Ham, it's A.D., LeBron, and Torium Prince. Interesting.

Is the Golden Trio for the Lakers. He answered, you heard his voice. He's literally on set shooting. Thank you to the legend Jason Weaver, man. One of the nicest, coolest guys in this entire time. Watch season 6 of the shy when it drops. I think it's the last season. Support Jason and everything that he's doing.

He's really, really, really, really a sweet, amazing, and accomplished, man. Thank you, Jason Weaver for answering the phone. Credits. I producer is Steve, the architect, Almond. Jomi, Exhibit. Shammarajat, Samarajum. This show production from Adrian O'Ronga Park. Charles Sixth album.

Rest in peace, Carl Weathers. Black History Month can't be beat. And if the Midnight Boys love anything, it's that midnight. No. Me. I want to be very clear. I have not seen the video.

I have not seen the video. But I have seen the same comments. Oh, Drake, what? Oh, oh, no. All right, man, this is enough Twitter for me today. I'm going to just lock out. Like, y'all got it. Insane.

What have you heard about it? I've heard that it is, I heard what I got a couple group chats and they're like, man, my lady's seeing Drake's dick and some meme or some guy crying. So I'm like, oh, I'm sure. So it's got to be. Are we sure that it was actually Drake's dick? I'm seeing a lot of people being like. I mean, I can't. I don't know.

It might be. I don't. He's taking credit for it. He's taking responsibility for the dick. I've seen the dick more robustly discussed and debated by the guys on. It's just a new world. I think this is very. I'm telling you this is an important moment of coach.

I can't wait. I wrote a whole thing out. I can't wait to talk about this. You have a meat manifesto already? Not a meat manifesto. It's more about the concept behind the discussion. Things have really changed. I remember T. Payne got in so much trouble.

So the Kim Kardashian sex tape came out and they asked Tepin about it, right? Tepin is talking about it. And Tepin goes, shit, Ray J got a big meat. And everybody was like, my name is. What the fuck? Everybody was like, is it? The girl,

and my nigga was like, what? Do you want us to go back to the days of being penis police? I'm not penis policing. You are penis policing. You are penis policing. Well,

I'm not penis policing. What I'm saying is this. I'm saying that it's actually penis policing to talk about the sufficiency of somebody's dick. That's penis policing. It's all, it's like, it's Drake's,

to me say, hey, the nigga dick came out. Cool. His dick came out. It's fine. There's nothing, but hey, you guys didn't see the dick. I saw the dick. There was so much glee in seeing Drake's dick, y'all have a different connection to him.

That's all I can say. Y'all got a different connection. Why is it y'all? Who is y'all here? Nigger, you started this. By talking about it's happening in the black community. By the way, by the way, it's happening in the black community.