The Ringer-Verse - The Time-Travel Draft | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: June 7, 2023

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I guess we're combining all the elements of different Spider-Man. Man movies and we're putting them together to make the best Spider-Man movie. That's going to be a very fun experiment. Director, actor story? Is that what we're doing? Yeah, I guess so. Whatever they do, I'm into it. Check in with them on Monday.

Next Friday, the Midnight Boys will return to talk about the Flash and God damn it, let me tell you. I don't know if I've ever been more jammed up for a podcast in the history of this entire deal that we've been doing. I haven't seen the movie. I can't wait to see it. And I can't wait to have the discourse. This is a monumental watershed moment in D.C.'s history and in the history of the fandom. You guys, next Friday, we get to finally do the podcast on the movie that's been called the Citizen Kane of our times. I'll be real.

If this movie isn't one of the best superhero movies of all time, if this is not top three, the chopper singing, bro. Like, I'm scorched her. Because y'all, I let D.C. fucking run wild. Everybody was trying to tell me that this was the best thing since sliced bread. If y'all was lying, y'all going to hear about it. I need to see who's paid off. We need to see who's... We'll have a couple conversations, yeah.

There's going to be some conversations. David Zazlov, you know what I'm saying? Hit up my people, hit up Arjuna, hit up Steve. It's not too late for the check to clear, okay? You have, at this point, once it's coming out, Wednesday, We got a little over a week. We can be bought. We can.

The price has just got to be right. That's all. Look at Jomey. He's already been bought. Excuse me. I ain't seen no check. I ain't seen my bank account balance still the same, Blair. On today's show,

we're drafting our favorite time travel movies and television shows. Okay? Time travel. Movies and TV. shows. And the entire fandom, we're talking about it. Now, we have a tree for you after

that because Jomey watched Million Dollar Baby. And we're going to clear out for Jomey to give us his reactions to Million Dollar Baby, particularly the last portion

of the movie, which I re-watched and put Kalika through and was somewhere early. Had Kalika ever seen it? No. And it did not make for a great night. I'll tell you straight up.

She was upset. She was upset at Clint Eastwood. She was upset at a lot of different people for making her endure that. First, it was about girl power, and then it wasn't. And she was very upset. Okay?

there you go. All right, letting you guys know we're about to get to the draft. Spoiler warning for all time travel movies, television shows, and adjacent content. And unfortunately, guys, will also be spoiling

a million-dollar baby, which came out a long time ago. A million-dollar baby came out almost 20 years. Almost 20 years. So if you haven't gotten a chance to watch it, there were people that hit me up

about me spoiling guardians. There were people that hit me up about me spoiling Green Lantern. I'm serious. Wait, which Guardians? Guardians, volume three or the original Guardians? Guardians, volume, actually, they didn't say. They said, thank you for spoiling Guardians of the Galaxy.

And my response was, it really doesn't matter which Guardians of the Galaxy you're talking about because they're all past the spoil date at this point to me. If you haven't seen Guardians 3, guys, I can't help. Let's do it real quick for the Midnight Boys. what is the official spoiler warning, like, after this date? What's the statute of limitations you mean?

Yeah, like, and then we're talking about it. Three or four days after that, stay off until you see it. I'd give it a week. I'd give it a week. A week? I do TV and movies, like a separate. So movies. I agree.

You get a weekend. Get a weekend, right? Yeah, movies are a weekend. That's what I was talking about. Movies are three days. Television is immediate. Television, stay offline, right? It's like a sports event.

If you're not watching the game. Yeah, you know, you should stay off Twitter once succession drops. Like that's the- Yeah, stay off Twitter. That's all you. I actually think it's the opposite. I think, I think, well, actually, no, Jummey's right. Because TV, you get a shorter amount of time.

Film, you get a longer time. Because people got to go to the movies. You got to see a movie. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. No, that's three days. You get a weekend. You get Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

Oh, wow. That's nice. Some people go to see a movie in the second weekend, though, Charles. But we need to come up with the Midnight Boys. You know what we should do? We should draft. We should do a potter on this. We should do a Midnight Boys bill of rights for the audience.

Okay? We should do a bill. We should have a bill of rights. Yeah. A bill of rights for the audience, the Midnight Bylaws. And we should come up with all of these laws. And then we should have. Midnight Magna Carta.

We should come together. together, right, and a set of rules for everyone that we have to stick to and that we can invoke on each other and on the audience. And one of them, the most important one of them, has to be the spoiler fresh statute. When is something fresh and when is it spoiled? Because we can't, I can't have y'all, Guards of the Galaxy came out a month ago, y'all. Y'all got to go see the movie, man. I'm sorry.

It's like, you've got to go see the movie, man. I'm not trying to be a dick. I know people who have jobs and some people who are in school. Might be in another country or whatever. But it came out a month ago, man. We've already covered it on the pot. We already spoiled it. So I don't know what you want me to do.

You know what I mean? Anyway. Okay. Get into the rules, Charles, of this draft. All right. So next week, DC finally releases one of the most controversial movies in fandom in recent memory, The Flash. And seeing as the Scarlet Speedster is one of the most famous time travelers in fandom,

the Midnight Boys are doing our time travel draft. Each of us get four picks. We go in snake draft order, as always. Any movie or TV show is eligible as long as time traveled is central to the plot of the story. So no picking loss or heroes or anthology series like the Twilight Zone or Black Mirror. All of them disqualified. Without all being said, Arjuna, who's gone first, second, third, and fourth? Okay, first up is Van, second is Steve, third is Jomey, and bringing up the rear is Charles.

That's the second time Vans gotten the first pick. I think we should be able to view the process because this is ridiculous. Jomi, why don't you shut your mouth? No audits, no audits. Okay, like, why don't you shut your black? I'm just joking. What's your first pick, man? Back to the future.

Easy. Like, easy. Yeah. Easy work. Back to the future. Now, I almost picked Back to the Future, too, because I happen to like Back to the Future 2 more than Back to the Future 1. What?

I do. Yeah. Me too. Wait, no, this is, both of you please explain yourself. Like, this is wild. I mean, what's what? I mean, what's a while? No, like, Back to the Future 2 is a good movie,

but like back to the original is like a perfect movie. Yeah, I didn't say, see what, see, this is sometimes what happens. I didn't say, you know, I didn't say that Back to the Future 2 was better than Back to the Future 1. I said I like it better. Because I like Hill Valley in the future.

I like Gray Sports Almanac. I like Bad Biff timeline. This is the first time. that we got timeline talk in the movie, the timeline jumped off. I like all that stuff. We got the air mags and the floating skateboard, the hoverboard.

I like when he goes back into the school when he sees the events of Back to the Future One happening. That's pretty great. That stuff is cool. Right. It's cool.

So I like the movie, but Back to the Future One is better. And it's probably the single most popular time travel movie of all time. I would say. I would say of time, time travel movies.

Because I'm only going to do, this is what I'm doing. I'm only going to do one big, huge time travel movie. Right. I'm only going to do one big one like this. And then everything is your heart? You're going from your heart with the rest of it.

Everything else is my heart. That's more or less how I'm doing this too. Everything else is my home. Well, Steve, yeah. Like, you're determined to lose. Yeah, everything else is my heart. So this is,

so I had a bunch of big blockbusters. This and this is the best one I could possibly get. So I'm going with Back to the Future at number one. Can I, can I pitch you guys on, like, something I was thinking about? Would you guys watch, like, a Spider-Punk spin-off that's, like, back to the future, okay? But when he goes to the future, like, in the past, he realizes that he creates drill. And, like, he has to basically, like, fall back in love with real music punk. So this is, it's like this is Hobie going through time, accidentally.

inventing drill rap, him loving that, and then he's got to go back to his roots. No, no, he realizes like he creates drill, and then he's like, God damn, man. Like, I got to get back to the roots of rock and roll. How does he create drills to the future? No, he would go to the past. He would go to the past.

Wait, no, he sees the future. He sees Potsmoke and he's like, oh, no, I've done too much. I've gone too far. Yes, and then he goes, yeah, what's the nextest event that he's like, I need to fix this? It would be his bit.

Jesus Christ. Let me tell you. y'all something. Okay? First of all, let's get into what would have to happen here. So many things. So does he see?

Is there like a scene where he sees what drill music has done where people are smoking on ops and Jacksonville's going crazy and they play a G? Like, this is a rated R Spider-punk movie, right? Because he creates drill. We can't do a PG-13

or PG-Drill movie. So he got to go on some drills. He got to be party to some drills. He got to be in Jacksonville, Chicago, the Bronx, London. No, they got UK drill too. Like, you'll meet Drake. Drake will show up. Well, here's the thing.

We have to establish what time he's coming from to where he's going to. Because I'm assuming that this is like, what, 1980s, 1970s London that he's coming from? Like peak punk in London in the 70s? I would imagine whatever university is, like time. It could be like 2000s, but it's probably still. stuck in an era where he's got to be a rebel to be able to, like, advance his agenda. Or if this was back to the future, too, he realizes that his future son is a drill rapper.

And that's what he's trying to stop. Oh. It's about your kids, Marty. Yeah. Sorry, I derailed this within the first five minutes. Hold on, hold on. I'm not against this. What's wrong with drill?

What, wait, what? Jummy. let's not have a separate conversation. Okay. Because y'all call me old man van. But I'm about to get real old on y'all. All right.

Let's just move on to the next bit. We should talk about or we should, I'd like to have a corner where we just pitch movies using fandom characters because that's good. In creating drill. And I think that Drake wasn't really drill as much as it was grime. I feel like Drake was more grime and not quite UK drill.

Am I wrong about it? that. I feel like Drake's... It was on the bleeding edge a little bit, but I get what you're saying. It was like grime and then, yeah, it was a little bit of both. I don't know how we got here, but it was fantastic. Okay, back to the future one. Back to the future.

Great pick. Number one pick. Love you. That'll be me. All right. I won't go any of the other Back to the Future. Not that it disqualifies it, but back to the future one would have been my pick. Looking at my list here, I think my board probably has to

go with, I think, probably the most explosive and exhilarating and fun action time travel movie that I've probably ever seen in my life. And the more and more I've revisit this and the second that I saw this, I rewatched it last night. I think Edge of Tomorrow might be Tom Cruise's best movie. Fuck. I did not think you're going there. Edge of Tomorrow is tomorrow. No, Edge of Tomorrow like kicks ass. I should have drafted it first. Yeah. No. I should have. I should have drafted it first. Yeah, no, it's great. Wait, second overall pick, though? Yes.

I should, look, look, here's the thing. Here's the thing. I don't think that is amazing. So look, obviously this is a Jordan LaForge, but like, it's, it's a Johnny LaForge. It absolutely is. Obviously, it's a Jordy LaForge,

but I respect this Jordy LaForge. No, come on. 100%. I wanted, there was no way I thought any guys would draft the movie. I would be honest with you. I just thought, I didn't, I didn't think you draft it. Oh, come on. Great.

It's one of my favorites. I love that movie. Yes. I couldn't draft it first and I wouldn't have drafted it second. That's fine. I just knew I was going to be able to get Edge of Tomorrow, man.

It's a good movie. Is this a Jordan? Let's have a vote of the three of us. Is this a Jordan LaForge? I can guarantee you. At number two, absolutely. At number two, absolutely. Don't you worry.

You could have got this. When we went back up, you can. I got some bananas picks coming for you. Like, don't you worry about Edge of Tomorrow. So you're LaForge in your whole draft is what you're trying to. It's what he does every time. He does every draft. He's not serious.

This is why the women love Steve. You know, he always goes with this art. Yeah, he does. For real, though, I don't, like, I can't explain how much I love this movie because almost at every turn, not only is Tom Cruise amazing, but it makes me realize that Tom Cruise always acts like he's in the greatest movie of all time. And everybody else in that movie acts like they're in a Tom Cruise movie. because there's nothing that you can do to like match whatever energy Tom Cruise is giving you other than playing against him.

And I think Emily Blunt does that. I think everybody in the bunker with him does that. I think Bill Paxton does an amazing job in this movie. The script is super tight. Action's amazing. I can't possibly recommend this movie any higher. Like it's so cool. One of the best time travel concepts ever.

it would have been a greater hit if it got the title right the first time. Yeah, it's true. It was called live, die, repeat. And then they're like, wait, just playing. We're calling it extra tomorrow. Well, I'll say this. That was during the dark years for Tom as well.

That's true. Post-dark universe? Just post-dark universe. Mommy. Yeah, so Tom made some movies. And I'm a Tom defender of that era. I'm a defender of the dark years of Tom.

And I'm going to go to his filmography real quick and tell you what these dark years are because Tom continued to make Mission Impossible movies and the Mission Impossible movies went from being good to Mission Impossible Two, Mission Impossible Three is okay.

And then they just kept making them until they became, they were never bad but they kept making them until they became fucking fantastic. You know what I mean? They kept making them until they just fucking at some point. But in the middle here, you're looking at

so oblivion Rock of Ages both protocol is pretty cool Jack Reacher I like the first Jack Reach No I like the first track reach So all of these movies

I stand for these movies Guess what I like Oblivion McLeakassard and Thears And we went to the arc light And it's one of the enduring moments Of our I like Oblivion Abilien is gorgeous I'll say that

It's a gorgeous movie But like it's just boring a little bit So then you have the mummy American made. You have Jack Reacher never go back. Rogue Nation is in there, but there's a little bit of a dark period for here. And Edge of Tomorrow kind

of got lost in the shuffle of we're not really fucking with Tom Cruise right now. If Edger Tomorrow came out like right now, it would be a gigantic fucking movie because this is a great movie, but it came out during a little bit of a downtime for him. It really was something that got lost in the shuffle of like a generic

looking-ish action movie because ultimately when I saw it, I was like, okay, this looks kind of, you know, lame or, you know, run of the mill. And then I saw it, I'm like, what the fuck? This is so good. I mean, here's the thing also. All these movies came out at, like, the peak of the MCU

where it was just like pretty much any action movie that anybody tried to get going or any franchise was just kind of memory hold. Yeah. Like, I wonder if, like, part of Tom Cruise's, like, current success isn't just him being fantastic, but it's also like superheroes have cooled, and we're kind of looking like,

all right, we need a movie star again. He's just like, guys, I've been waiting. So shout out to this big, crazy thing. I mean, he's just been going crazy in between, like, Top Gun Maverick and the Mission Pops movies, like raising the stakes, especially on the stunts. You know, like he's on the plane in Rogue Nation. And then in Fallout, he's hanging from the helicopter,

and he's doing the halo jump, right? And then in Tomlin Maverick, they're in the Jets, right? Like, he's just bringing another level to the cinematic arts that, you know, whether, no matter how you feel about Tom Cruise, every time he's on screen, he brings it, man. Like, it's just, it is what it is. He almost has to kill himself for us to care about him, though. I mean, he's going to go to space.

I'll be honest with you, though. The movies are good. Yeah. Mission Impossible has up the ante and is, like, Edge of Tomorrow in a lot of ways was like Mission Impossible to me because I had given up on the franchise and then I'm like, wait a minute,

I'm in the movie, I'm like, in a minute, man, they kick an ass in this motherfucker. Ghost Protocol really set it off for me where I was like, whoa, they're doing something crazy. Wait, what was it? Was that Brad Bird? He did that one? Yes, Brad Bird.

Oh, yeah, I saw that in movie theaters. I was like, I was blown away. I was like, what the fuck is this? I was not expecting it. Right, I'm like, they kicking. I thought I was over this shit. They chicken ass in this bitch. And then, edge of tomorrow,

like, we go see the movie. My brother goes, hey, man, you know, this looks kind of stupid, like a video game movie, but, like, you should see it.

Me and Kalika go to see the movie. At 20 minutes, I'm like, I'm not going to lie, man. This shit is kind of off the chain. I'm not going to bullshit you. And Kalika's like, it's really good.

We're in a harklight. Yeah, but anyway. All right, cool. So Edge of Tomorrow, sort of a Laforge, but I love the movie,

so I don't know if I can call it a pure LaForge. It is a diet before. I promise you you'll be mad at some of my picks. I promise you this. Jomey, can you please pick this draft back up? What are you going with your first picture? Yeah, so, man, there's so many.

I'm going back to the future part two. Let's just call it, man. Oh, all right. Let's be serious. Like, we talked about it earlier, but this is definitely like, part one is probably the better film, but part two is definitely my favorite. The hoverboard chase and, again,

like him going back and seeing himself in the, in part one was just awesome. The old man makeup, you know, I love it all. It's goofy, but it's fun. It's super goofy. But it's just so much fun. Like, he's there on the roof, and he's like, hey, man, you know, who do you think? How do you think I did this, bro?

It was you. I got the almanac, baby. And he jumps off, then he jumps off. And he's like, oh, no, Bonnie McFly. He's gone. and then he comes back on the, on the DeLorean. This is great film.

I love that film so much. You love that. I do. I'm trying to think of like another movie that is like, or like a time travel movie that like interacts with itself from a previous entry. Because like I think the, I think I can only think of like maybe other one other one that like as a series

that constantly refers back to itself. In a time travel series. Yeah. I'm thinking of one, but like I don't want to blow up a pick. There is one. I mean, and the whole, that's what the whole movie is about. And I'm not going to draft it. Okay.

I'm not going to draft it on purpose because I want one of you sons of bitches to draft it. Guess what? I probably might do it. I know you will. And by the way, once you do it, I can't wait to listen to you, talk all about it. But I'm telling you right now, we all know the movie that's being discussed, and I will not be drafting the film. Here's the thing, I don't, Stephen and Charles can't draft it either

because y'all went crazy on here last week. Talk about y'all, y'all would rather see, you know what, it's cool. No, no, no, no, no. We'll get to them. We'll get to them. Oh, okay. I'm not, I'm not drafting it.

I tell you what, I bet Charles drafted right now. I'm ready. I'm ready to have the debate. Chuck, you start lying. It's your pick. All right, so I'm honestly appalled that this is going forth. I thought that this would be either the second or third.

Dog, I got to go with T2, bro. judgment day. Like fucking classic movie. Like one of the best classes in high school I had we watched this movie. I don't know what the teacher

was like programming. It was like a movie class and it was like Donnie Brasco, T2, Goodfellas, and Dr. Strangelove. Weird class. Wow. I remember seeing the movie.

Great class. Dr. Strangelo was awesome. It was just, I did not understand what the programming was. Like what was the through line. but watch this movie, loved it. I think that this movie has aged like Fine Wine

and it's one of the rare action movies that just doesn't feel dated when you watch it. Like, it's just like, oh, even some of the CG. It doesn't look like 2023 CG, but it works. It doesn't take you out. I loved T2 so fucking much. Okay. That's a great pick.

No, of course. That's a great pick. That's the greatest action movie of all time, in my opinion. I don't, and I don't consider superhero movies to be action movies. Okay. Okay. They're super hero.

Really? I don't. I mean, yeah, they're in, they've carved out their own genre in and of themselves. Of action movies, I think the greatest action movies, I think it's between diehard and T2 and I'm a T2 guy. I don't think it's the greatest action movie ever. I think I might be a diehard guy. Yeah.

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Okay, so Charles, you have another pick. So I'm not going with the one that y'all talked about because I think the time travel in that movie sucks to be honest. So oh man, this is if you guys don't draft it, I'm going to have to draft it. I just let you know, no, no, don't worry.

Okay? Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. You're not worried. Now I'm kind of like, you know what, fuck it. I'm going to draft it just so y'all don't go. No. I'm doing Avengers End game. That's a villain move. I'm doing Avengers End game because here's the thing, like the way Joe Me's list was setting up. I love it. I can't let you have it.

It's not even the one I want to pick. Like, but fuck it. Like, we're doing it. Avengers End game. I don't even like the time travel in that movie, but I'm trying to win the draft. There you go. I'll be honest with you. I'll be honest with you. Having T2 and in-game on the same team

is probably he's going to be tough to beat now. I'm definitely not going to beat him. I'm definitely not going to beat him. I can't beat him anymore. No, you're back to the future. Like, you can play a- The next couple of fucking movies that I draft are going to be like the next couple of movies

that I draft. I can't wait Yeah So right The next couple of ones that I draft You got two of the The greatest films Ever made

I have one of the greatest films But we're going down A rabbit hole Great I mean it doesn't really fall off a cliff Like that Like No wait

You just get into movies That you love at this point These are no There are some great ones Still on the board Like I have ones That were actually like The ones in my heart

But like If we're gonna be honest I'm like, you didn't pick the one of your heart though. Here's the thing. The audience don't give a fuck about the heart. They don't care. Like, we're trying to win this. You know what I'm saying?

So I'm going to go with end game. Joney. What? You don't want. No, no, no. Hold on. People listen to this pod, right? And understand what Charles just did, right?

It's not about his heart. It's not about, you know, the, you know, trying to be the best he can be. He just trying to, he just trying to win. What's wrong with that? That's what he always does. What you talk about? Nah, you got to, you know what I'm saying? It's all right.

Show me, no, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Tell me, me just do what you're about to do. You can't be making. Right. Listen, you know. You attack Steve for picking edge of fucking tomorrow. What do you want us to do? Pick our heart or win?

What do you want? Listen, there's a lot of game left. You know, we, there's so much here. A lot of game left. You know. Comey, stop. It's kind of like a, like a little bee. I mean, he stole my dick.

I don't know what you want to. I don't know what you want me to do. Like, you know. So make it pick, John. Where's you going to now? All right, well, you know, I was going to take advantage in game, but because, you know, Charles is tired of losing, you know, multiple drafts in a row.

What are you talking about? I just want to draft the other day. Which one? Which one? Which one? Which one we did? We were tied. It was like 50-50.

I was like 700 years ago, Charles. That was literally the last draft we did. All right, pick whatever. That was it? The other draft, the fucking drafted movie. Just pick up. movie, Jomey. Doc, I'm stalling, bro.

This is what you're about to do, you know what? Did your whole strategy hinge on you picking end game? Nuked it. You nuked it. Just completely nuked it. But I'm going to stick

in the superhero realm. I mean, fuck. All right. I'm just going to go with, I'm going to go with Days of Features Pass. Okay. It's a good movie. Okay.

I'm going to go with Days feature past. Wait, really, though? Well, you don't get to say Jack's shit. Second guess every single person's pick. You're like fucking Mel Kiper. Like every time somebody... Oh, right.

Every time somebody... Every time somebody... Every time... Anything about back to the future. That was an objectively correct you. I tell you what, this is not what this team needed. They needed on the first day. They needed help on the line.

They needed help on the line. Think about it right now. You have your franchise quarterback, but at the league in Sacks, two years in a row, when is this team gonna address the upfront and the line? I tell you what, I don't know what you do. I don't know what they're thinking up there.

I'm sorry, I won't say anything about anybody. Fuck it. I'm not saying shit. You have to as far as that you have. So you drafted what again, Jemmy? X-Men, Days Future Past. Okay, can I say something about this movie real quick? So this is one of these movies that I feel like over the years,

its reputation has taken a little bit of a hit. I would agree. Future Pass first came out. I think everybody was in lockstep or there was consensus that it was maybe the best of the X-Men movies that came out. And I'm not sure what it is if it's because of Logan or if it's because it didn't successfully, like, reboot and redo whatever the entire time. I don't know what it is, but it seems like over time, people are less jazzed about the movie than they used to be. Am I wrong? No, you're 100% right.

People were going insane for this movie. Like, it was, like, imagine, like, I like first class. Like, I think first class is, like, very good. But it was, when you went to see first class, it was more so, be like, oh, shit, like, they did it. All right, good movie. And then you get Days of Features passing your list, like, is there more gas in the tank?

I think, do you guys think if this was the last Fox X-Men movie that we got, it would be remembered more fondly? Not that it's a, this is a great movie, but because it was not the last, we tend to just group it in with the other X-Men movies now? I think that's an interesting point, maybe, because I expected that movie

to be the last time I saw Wolverine. Yeah. And it wasn't. They actually bought Wolverine back. Definitely wasn't. And Patrick Stewart. Like, yeah, and so, I don't know, perhaps, maybe you have a point.

I'm not sure, but I remember we were talking a little while ago and we were discussing days of future past and people weren't as high on it. I just remember when everybody was obsessed with the movie. So maybe they diluted it a little bit with some of the stuff they did after. What, boys, what do you all think?

I would think that this is probably the start of the X-Men franchise actually becoming a meandering mess until Logan shows up or until like the final two Wolverine movies show up. Really? I think, well, not to say that this is bad, but it's more of like, okay, it ends with the idea of like, all right, maybe we're going to soft reboot the X-Men entire. maybe we're going to actually like reset a timeline and do something incredibly new and all

that stuff but now it's just kind of like but then after that we kind of just start to like meander as to what the new type of mutants or new stories that we're going to tell what these mutants are going to be until we kind of just get back to the tried and true okay let's tell a wolverine story and make two of them good um not to say that this was like it kind of in a way broke the idea of a big tent pole team-based X-Men film, the last one that was decent, and the last one that probably had like an ensemble element to it that was handled well. Okay. I mean, I do kind of think that the way I looked at X-Men Days of Future Pass was that

the movie was actually cleanup for a franchise that had lost its way. I thought it was a return to form because, you know, there were movies in between there. I mean, at a certain point, the Fox X-Men situation was exactly like Marvel is. Now, they were just, it was whack. And it was X-Men Origins Wolverine, which I kind of did. It was that.

And then it was the last stand. And even The Wolverine, which is a movie that I like, but it wasn't a movie good enough to make people go, okay, these movies know what they want to do, right? but I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I'm... Also, really quick,

do you guys also think it's the MCU of it all? Like the minute we, the minute we knew that the X-Men were going to be part of the MCU at one point, the other movies

just start to take on a different patina, you know what I mean? It's possible, yeah. Yeah, probably. Probably. Steve, don't disappoint with your second pick.

Where are you going? Okay. I think, again, I kind of like when I like it when time travel movies get weird and I really do love it when time travel movies are like thinking outside of the box and playing with themselves

to the extent of a good thriller one of my favorite filmmakers in the world is Terry Gilliam and I think 12 monkeys might be one of his best movies ever I love 12 monkeys Bruce Willis Brad Pitt they're stopping a deadly virus from destroying the world. Bruce Willis goes back in time. Maybe a peak Brad Pitt performance. It's

one of my favorites and everybody else thinks it's lame. So, who's seen 12 monkeys in this in this chat? I haven't even seen it. It's just, it's more so like, this could have been your fourth picks. Like, once again. Again, don't worry about my fourth pick. I don't worry about my fourth pick. Wait,

can I just ask, like, this is just as your friend and colleague? Yes. When you're drafting, in the back of your mind, are you worried that somebody else will make these? Like, in your mind, are you like, no, not at all. Oh, okay. Not at all.

This makes me love you more. Yeah, of course. I, I draft with full confidence. It's just more of like what my order is going to be. I'm going to go watch 12 monkeys, but. Okay. 12 monkeys is a good movie. Van, have you seen it?

Come on. Of course I've seen 12 monkeys. Okay. Is it good? Yeah. Is it good? It's fucking phenomenal. Yeah, I know.

It's great. That's kind of crazy question. It's going back in time to, like, kill a deadly virus. Everybody's underground. like the world is covered in ash. Part of a movie, part of movie you're not sure if Bruce Willis is insane

or if he actually did time travel. You know what I mean? So it's a real freaking movie and it was during the time that it came out was when I'm coming into, what is this, 96, something like that? I think it's 95. 95.

So I just remember the hubbub over the movie was like insane. It was a big time player that year. It's a big deal, huge deal. Great movie. Have you seen this one, Jomey? I wasn't even born when the movie came out. You weren't born when a lot of things happened.

But when, but I honestly, like, Terry Gilliam, like, makes, like, unashamedly, like, grimy and ugly movies. And everything is kind of looked at with this lens of, like, being, like, twisted and weird and not nice and clean. And this,

this along with, like, Brazil is one of his movies where like it's it's bleak Brazil to Brazil is so good yeah but like it's a story that like a wild it's about hope and like changing the past but like the

idea of when time travel puts people on a sort of a set of tracks that will like make a sort of self-fulfilled destiny it answers that question and then ponder it again come the end I love it

it's wonderfully flawed, but super, super good. Brad Pitt's insane in it. A lot of great stuff in this. 12 monkeys. Watch it. 12 monkeys. Love it. Okay.

You got two picks, Ben. So there are a lot of movies on the docket here. That could be chosen. Okay. But I'm going to do something for two reasons. Number one, I love this movie. I saw it at the TLC Chinese theaters. Okay.

Great sound for this movie. Deep, deep sound in this film. The movie has an epic feel. It's about time travel as used to save this planet. It's sweeping. It's amazing. If it's deep, it took me a couple of different times to even understand some of the

time travel in the movie. And I'm hoping that Ann Hathaway and Matthew McConaughey have reunited on this planet and have a bunch of little babies. I'm going with

inter fucking stellar. Perfect. All right? I'm going with interstellar. I can't believe that you guys still let the movie be on the board. Charles picked in game. Charles, this is what I like.

Charles is literally like Shiv Roy right now because he made the right choice but he still lost his heart. Right? He made the right choice. Did you know Interstellar was like, this was the one, I was like, no one's picking it, like this is the jam.

I definitely wasn't picking it. Murph! Murph! Hold on, Interstellar is a fucking fantastic movie. I mean, they're probably more iconic time travel movies. My last dude, No, you guys are not going to pick them. Maybe.

But people don't think about this as a time travel. I feel like people think of this as a space movie, but it is more a time travel movie when you like really sit down. I'll be honest. I really don't mess with Interstellar. I think that this was the turning point for me with Christopher Nolan. I think he was just beaten up his own ass. Wow.

Fuck out of years. He's always in a bookshelf. Come on. Fuck that. Tap in the sand and the sand. No. No. Wait, you didn't get,

no, no, no, no, no. When he sent in the message, come on. When he sent in the message to Murph, like, you didn't cry, bro? No. Really? It's just, it's so serious.

And, like, no, it, like, for some reason, like, it, it's, it got into my brain where, like, like, it's, Nolan takes himself way too seriously now. And I feel like this is probably, like, a fan-based thing. This is, like, a film Twitter thing. where the legions of his devotees are, like, way too into his shit.

And to me, Interstellar was just, like, a fine movie at best about, like, the space concept of time travel and all that shit. And I'm like, he's just in a fucking bookshelf, like, whatever. Stay, I don't care. What's better? Interstellar or Tenet? I mean, Interstellar is better than Tenet, but, like, there's legible dialogue in Interesteller. or so. Is Tenet?

Wait, really quick. Is Tenet better on second watch? Because I saw it in the movie theaters once and I was just like, I was so pissed. Can't be honest with you? I'm not smart enough. I'm not smart enough. I'm sorry. I'm not smart enough.

This is the thing. It's great on a first watch. How about that? All Nolan knows is like little tiny script tricks that like are starting to wear thin. Like you see the prestige and then you see every single movie that he does afterwards and it's like all structured that same way. Wait a minute. All he does is like give you.

So wait, you don't like, you don't fuck with Inception. No, inception is good. But like, again, it starts to like wear off once we get past Dark Night Rises. Like the shines like is starting to wear off. Obviously, you can't really disagree. I think part of the charm and interstellar to me was that they took the science of the movie so seriously. Now, I'm not saying that all the science checks out because I don't know about that stuff. But I know that like they got with Kip Thorne.

and all of that stuff, and they took the science of the movie very seriously. However, the thing I say about Inneseller is that the scope and the emotion of the movie is enough to pull you through to the end of the film if you don't completely understand it. And I think that's where Nolan has lost himself. At its core, Interstellar is about a father and his family

and him trying to save the world for them. Inception, same thing. Exception at its core is about a dude who has lost his wife in the most unspeakable way because of what he does and him trying to get back to his family. So even if you all really get Inception, there's enough that you can glean from it to where the narrative and the feeling

and the performances can pull you through and then it's cool enough. I think Nolan lost that because Tinnett doesn't have any of that. Right? I mean, Tenet is like, so I think he kind of lost that. I would argue that Dunkirk doesn't even have that. Yeah, but Dunkirk is just a badass movie, though.

And that's the thing, though. Like, I feel like Nolan, like, makes movies that like, oh, if only these pesky humans weren't in my movie, and I could just make cool, like, stopwatches of films with, like, interesting cuts and, like, story tricks that play with each other, rather than have to deal with human emotion that actually propels through his story. When it's great, obviously, it's a, amazing because those two things intertwined

perfectly. But like man, did Interstellar lose me? Okay. My next pick? Yes. It's a movie. I'm not sure that all of you guys have even seen, but it's a movie about a man who's in a place. And then he becomes in another place. And when he is in this place, it is a long time ago.

And he is fighting off hordes of the undead. It is a movie that I love. is a movie that I cherish. Army of Darkness. Oh, hell yeah. Army of darkness is my next pick. All right.

Army of darkness. I'm loving it. Okay. Ash, Sam Ramey. All right. The type of sequel that completely sets things off. Oh, yeah. Like, I love the parent of these guys.

The New Evil Day. was too much. All right. It's scary. It's like, it was like, it was like, saw it,

but I can watch the old ones because it's like, oh, you know, shit doesn't look that real. They gave the same horror master new school effects and it hurt Van. He couldn't really watch it.

It was very scary. Okay. But my third pick, Army of fucking darkness. First of all, how many of you guys? have even seen it. Yes. I've seen it. It is awesome. It is a great, great, great movie. Fantasticical, baby. Sequel to Evil Dead 2, but like you just get sucked into a portal at the end of

Evil Dead 2 and then he's thrown into medieval times. And then there's just an army of zombies and he's got to basically be the warrior of time. And he's got all kinds of different weapons and rigs. It's just, it's amazing. I love Army of Darkens. It's funny. It's goofy. It's, it's action-packed, it's great. I probably, I go back and forth between Evil Dead 2 and that between being the best and that, like, original Evil Dead trilogy. But it's like an adventure film. It's not even a horror film, by contrast to Evil Dead 2.

Yeah, they completely changed the way that they made the movies, which was like, at that point, I wouldn't say that it was much of a chance because those movies existed sort of in niche. They never became huge mainstream entities. But it was just kind of that era of filmmaking where a guy like Sam Ramey just do what the fuck they want to do. Just take it like up the fucking ante and put the movie back in the day. Kill a bunch of the fucking undead. I love evil dead.

I love Army of Darkness. Fantastic inspired pick. Love you for that fan. All right. Where are we at now? It's me. I want to take it to the 80s two. Jomey, what does that look on your face?

Joey, what is drawn? The last like eight movies have been movies like I've not only, except for like interstellar, not only that I've never heard of them. I wasn't even alive when they came out. Well, great. You got a lot of homework to do because you got some great movies to see, including this one. This is like when I think back on this, I'm like, this is like a fun, dumb school field trip

with two burnout guys that just want to have a good time and learn some history. Bill and Ted's excellent adventure is one of my favorite time travel movies I thought this would be there fuck out here I'm taking

I'm taking some of the like golden era of like just fuck around with Socrates and fuck around with Napoleon So crates So crates

And Genghis Khan fucking around in a sporting goods store It's great He's on a skateboard Like Beethoven is like Killing it on the God damn Steve

And then they all Bring it back to the talent show, and they save the day. It's fucking great. Like a 10-year-old Keanu Reeves. It's great. I love it. I'm tempted to draft the sequel now. I know nobody will draft that.

Focus journey is fun, too. I really wanted it. I really wanted it. Let me ask this. Van, why don't you pick Bill and Ted over Interstellar? Because he doesn't think like me. The reason why I didn't pick Bill and Teller over Interstellar is because I like Interstellar more than Bill and Ted.

and I wanted to fuck with you. It's another reason why I know that you wanted interstellar. And because you sold yourself out for Avengers endgame, which is so poetic, I had to. It's so poetic. Oh, guys, I got picked. I got picked. That's a loser behavior, though. So, so poetic.

So poetic. I had to give you, I got beeswax, baby. So I gave Yeah, there you go. I got some. All right. Let's go. All right.

It's my turn. So, I will, let's I say, I would like to say something real quick. I would like to remind you guys that television shows are eligible. Nobody's really picked a TV show yet.

So I'm just making sure I'll remind you guys of that. I'm rocking with this. Sticking with the movies. I'm rocking with this movie. It was like, it was one of those things where they were like, oh, You got to check this out, man.

You got to lock in. I was like, I don't know, man. We'll see. I'm not doing nothing. Let's lock in. And I left the theater going like, wow, this is really incredible. What a film. Okay.

Starring Amy Adams, Jeremy Renner. Arrival. Great. Great movie. Great. Great film. Great, great, great. Great movie.

Great movie. Nobody gives a fuck about it. You know. It's a man. It's a really a good, it's really a, it's really a, hold on, hold on now. Wait a minute. It's really, it's really, it's really, it's really a good movie. It's a fantastic movie.

It's a fantastic movie. It's a fantastic movie. Eight Academy Award nominations. Hey, bro. No, it's great. Niggas forgot about that shit, bro. I'm going to be real with you. Like every, it's a great movie that they, people forgot almost immediately after it came out.

Let me tell you what, Denny Villeneuve, uh, batting a thousand for every, movie that he's directed, pretty much. Like, can I, can I run down his filmography real quick? Because, like, I think he's made some of the best movies that I've ever seen. 2015, Sicario, 2013, prisoners. 2016, Arrival, 2017, Blade Runner, 2049, and then Dune Part 1 and 2. Like, I, not a bad movie in the bunch. Yeah, he's amazing.

He's amazing. He's amazing. I would, give me, how many movies is that? That's one, two, three, four, five, six. So would you say that he's six for six? Well, six being doomed part two, I'm going to assume that that's going to be good. Try to think of, this is an exercise for the midnight mob and the midnight riders and for the midnight boys. Because we talked about four movie runs before.

People brought him up. It's about four movie runs. Think about six movies to start a career. It's an arbitrary number. But I got to thinking about it when I looked at this back in it. It's an arbitrary number six. It's like, whatever. But think about six movies to start a career.

Start? to start a career. I don't know. Not in a row at any point. Six movies to, because I can give you guys that had six just going fucking nuts. Right. What was that? All right.

Let's go. Guys who had six movies in a row? No, I know, no. Like, who are your top? Oh. Like, I would say Spilberg. Right. You mean directors?

Just directors? Directors. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Had a run.

I would say Scorsesey had a run. Uh-huh. Now, it depends on how people might feel about the last temptation of Christ. I think it's a great movie. But I think Scorsese had a run. I think Kubrick didn't make very many movies, but I could argue that if we're talking about six movies to start a career, that he would be there.

True. You know what I mean? What about PTA? He has a six in a row. Let's look. Like six to start a career? Hard eight, bogey nights, Magnolia, Harney, Harcite, Magnolia.

Magnollia. Magnollia. Punch struck love. Punch struck love. See, that's going to be the one that's going to stick for a lot of people. I love the movie. No, it's a good movie. It's a weird movie, but it's a good.

And then there will be Blood the Master. That's like a... That's a six movie run. What about Tarantino? He got six. Okay. So here's the thing. He does.

Wait. Wait. Wait. All right. Wait. No, wait. No, wait. No, wait.

No, wait. No wait. No wait. No wait. Because you can make the case that Tarantino, you could take any four movie run that he has. And it would be amazing. there is

when Jackie Brown came out back in the day people didn't like the movie that's a fact it's a top three Tarantino movie and I've talked to Bender about this

right like people didn't like the movie Tarantino's movies are so cool that people gravitate to them almost automatically right almost right and it was different

with Jackie Brown it took people a second to realize just how great of a movie it was I always liked it. So when you hear people talk, now they're going to be like, oh, Jackie Brown is in the run of Tarantino movies.

But then I just remember a bunch of people talking about it was too different from Pope Fiction. It was whatever. They didn't like it as much when it came out then. So I'm saying. So do you ding? Is it not part of the run for you then? It's part of the run for me.

But I think there is a little revisiting his history on how much people like it. I think it's his most watchable movie. like not his not his best but i think it's his most watchable movie it's the movie to me that has the most heart that has the most soul to it that's the most cohesive story out of any of the movies that he's done that to me you know i think there are movies that i like more but i think it's his most watchable movie jacky brown that's why i would say uh look these great conversations that's coming from the draft i love you yeah good rival all right i got two more you know what?

I'm gonna get a little this is to me this movie is a is a movie every teenager needs to see I'm gonna get a little funky do I understand this movie not really

Donnie Darko Do I love this movie? Yes I'm going Donnie Darko What's wrong with Donnie Darko? You don't like Donnie Darko man? I do. I'm scared of it.

The bunny's nuts. The bunny's nuts. The bunny's nuts. That's not what you want. bro, they bullied me into watching that. I don't like it. And I watch the movie. I'm like, yo, man, why are y'all looking at this?

Like, that movie is depressing and brooding and weird and a fucking bummer, bro. That's a scary, bummery movie. There were a couple of movies in the 90s where we're like, are we okay as a people? Like, it was like this, like Requiem for a Dream. Like, we were just like really on the downer shit. And this movie, you have to think about it. This movie, it's made before it, but it comes out right after 9-11.

So could you imagine, like, the national mood? And then you're just like, oh, let me like watch Donnie Darko. Yeah. It's not great. It was, so this movie didn't come out in the 90s, but I was you're saying it was like a 90s sensibility. But like when it came out,

I never remember the movie going to theaters, but it was one of those suicide kings-like movies that everybody was talking about. Hey, you got to go rent down your dark going to watch it. It didn't. It didn't. I don't think it had a really small run because you have to remember they have the plane in the movie. And because it comes out around 9-11, there was like, that was that moment in time where people weren't really, if there was plane crashes in the movie, if there was stuff, it was like, I think that's a pretty big part of its like history of why it became such a cult classic because you really could not see it in theaters for that long. Yeah. And I like, I watched it and it bummed me out. It's a good movie, but I'm scared of the movie.

Like, if I see it, if I see it, if I see it, like, if I'm on YouTube TV or something, that Donnie Darko is on, it, like, I have an anxiety reaction. Like, I do. It's a great movie, though. It really is. It's a tough one, though. All right, whose turn is it now? All right, so I got one more pick.

Damn. All right. Here's a thing. The one I will pick is I don't think any. I'm not going to pick this one, but shout out to this. Ryan Johnson's looper is a fucking Bro Louper is it

Wait is that your pick Steve? That was going to be it Yeah No I'm not going to pick it See if you can have it No you don't just say that You have to say you

I'm not going to pick I'm not because I don't know I don't know how many Looper heads are out there for real Why don't you just draft the fucking What are you a populace? No because I have something that's I have something that's closer to me

I'm going to go TV show Okay This was like When I was in middle school high school and I was starting to get like just adult humor. I was going through a phase, just got done with the Simpsons.

I think Futurama is one of the greatest cartoons. Is one of the greatest cartoons we have. Like it's left on. But like Futurama has one of the best just like runs as like a, like an adult comedy. Just Futurama is so fucking good. I remember, do you guys remember seeing the, what's the name of the episode?

with his dog that waits for him. Yeah. Jurassic bark. Jurassic bark. That shit destroyed me as a kid. I was just like, what the fuck, bro? So yeah, I'm going to go with my heart for one last one. I got to go future from it. It's one of those shows that like the degree of quality is like a baseline high.

Like it's not to say that it doesn't have peaks or valleys, but like consistently, if you just keep rewatching season, season to season, like it is always good. It is always solid. Yeah. There really isn't like a lull or like a time when the show sucked or like this season was kind of whack or this season was great. Like it's consistently good.

Oh, I agree. The snoo snoo snoo episode, fucking I can watch that today. So fucking funny. Yeah, I'm going Futurama. Jomi, you got the fourth pick. Where are you wondering? All right. So at this point, you know, I've, you've ruined me, Charles.

Wait, were you going to pick future Roma? Decimated? No, but the endgame thing, I've never recovered. I would never financially recover from this. So I'm going to go with the pick that's true to my heart. If you know me, if you really know me, you know I love me a good romantic comedy. Ooh, I know what you're going with. A good rom-com.

And this one came out in, I want to say, 2020. And it's one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the, of the best recent romantic counties come out in the last you can say like you know five, ten years. Decades. I'm marking yeah, I'm marking with Palm Springs.

Great. Fantastic. Very, very good movie. It stars our guy, Andy Sandberg, you know, and Christine Miliotti from High Metro Mother. And there's just such a great banter about him, such a great couple. it's also got the dude who play

Superman, I think, from your Lois and Clark show van. So I know you locked in. Wait, is he the groom? He's a, I think so. I can't remember off the top of my head. It's been a second, but now this is a great film.

Like they spend the entire movie you know, stuck in this time loop and they've got a, they ended up falling in love over you know, how many thousands of years they spend a loop. It's incredible. It's fantastic. And I love it so much. I have to be honest with you guys.

I hadn't thought about Jurassic Bark in a long time, man. Yeah, that's what saddened. I'm so sorry, man. That's about to break your heart. Bro, like, I just got fucked. I just got fucked up, bro. I hadn't thought about it in a long time, man. That is among the saddest endings that I've ever seen,

bro, where's Bozeman at? Hug Bozeman right now. Yeah, man. Like that, that's tough. It's good, good pick, Jomey. Charles ruined the draft. On multiple occasions. On multiple occasions.

Damn, y'all can't let me live. Okay. So I have to do a strategic pick now. Well, Steve, Steve, it's me. It's me. Steve, go ahead. All right. I'm between two picks, both of which I know

nobody on this call has. scene. Yeah. I'm going to put everybody on some game right now. This is a Spanish film by the name of time crimes. The premise is a man has a wife and a family and a beautiful home. And he gets terrorized into going back into time an hour. And proceeds to buck his life up for one hour. and I love this movie so much.

It's twisted. It's weird. Everybody's laughing at me, giggling. I win my own personal draft. I had fun. I won. Steve Allman signing off for the time travel draft. What the fuck?

Steve! What's it called? It's called time crimes. In Spanish. It's called crono cremenis. 2007. All right, so here's a deal. Let's look.

I'm by Nacho Belando, who also directed a great movie called Colossal with Anne Hathaway. This ain't the big pick, Steve. Like, damn. No, man, you got to see this movie. Can you pick Austin Powers, bro? Like, come on, man. It was going to be that or a girl who we left through time.

So I got to say something here. I'm sure that Time Crimes is the shit, bro. Yes. This is nothing about the quality of the movie. I'm picking a pick so that you guys can know about this movie. That's really it. This is a PSA pick. You're doing a public service, fans.

Stop thinking about Jurassic Bark before. Yes. Stop thinking about Jurassic Bark. Start thinking about time crimes. Los Cronos. Crimis. Los Cronos. Yes.

Okay. Steve, you're going with your dress. See? I'm thinking about, I love dogs too much. I like, so you're going with time crimes. Time crimes is what you're going with. Okay. I mean, Steve, this is your thing.

This is on brand, baby. It's on brand for you. You know, he's weird with girls, Jordy LaForge. LaForge. So do we, we probably don't have a video recording of when you made that pick, did we? Yeah, we did. It's a black, it's a black server drive. It's all online.

Okay. So I just think that we need to put together a mishmash of the best moments in draft history. Mm-hmm. and it's way at the top. And you've leaned into it. Yeah. You've leaned into it. And I can only be me and God damn if time crimes isn't a pick for me.

Okay, cool. Time crimes. Let's chronos. Times. Los Coronas commences. Okay. Time crimes. All right.

So look, I'm going to go with something next that I've never seen. Because a lot of the things that I said that I was going to pick. Yeah. I'm going to go with something I've never seen. I'm going on. I'm doing this for Joe. A TV show. Oh, man.

No, no, no, no. No. I'm a fantering. No, no, no, no, no. I'm better out of here, bro. No, no, no, no. This is a Joyne LaForest, wait a minute. How is this a Jordan LaForest?

Because you're pandering. How am I paying? This is worse than Avengers Endgame. You're pandering, bro. Exactly. This is Charles picking Avengers End game. Okay. It's totally, oh, it's totally above board.

You can do it, but this is the same as Charles speaking of Avengers End game. How? This is worse. You've never even seen Doctor Who. I haven't seen one second of it. I haven't seen one second of you. Literally, it's okay. Literally, until I started talking to y'all, I thought Doctor Who was a spy.

I thought that he was like a secret agent. I didn't know. I'm choosing Doctor Who. I've lost so much respect for you. Like, I never thought you would go this low. I'm not pandering. This is what I have to say. Looper is gone.

No, it's not. Looper is still there. Oh, looper is still there. Yeah, but you blew up that pick by just saying it. Yeah, so I thought that, so I thought, so I now can't really choose Luper because you said looper. Yeah, I would have chosen it if you didn't say anything. You can't be spoiling. I'm sorry, I said Luper.

I didn't know, I didn't know what this podcast was full of fucking looper heads, all right? I thought we were a small group. Looper's fucking cool. The movies that I had on my board, edge of tomorrow, I'm really doing this to get back at Steve. Right. As a fucking Bill and Ted. These are movies I really didn't think that you guys would pick. Oh, yeah.

I'm a sniper. Bill and Ted was in my top six. Billant Ted was in your top six. Look, nobody picked the original Terminator. It could still be picked. I don't know. It's not out there. I don't want to pick it because T2 is so superior.

All right. And there are other time travel movies, but I don't have a TV show. I would like a TV show. So I'm googie. That is true. You have a piece. You give him help?

No, don't help them now. No, nails in the coffin. No, Dr. Niels in the coffin. I amend my pick. No, you can't amend it now. You can't amend it. No, fuck out of here. Fuck out of here.

You already said Dr. Lou. We need a ruling. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Technically, I never said Dr. Who. No, no. I never said Doctor Who. Juna jump on.

Run the tape. Are Juna jump on. Don't pick bitch on me. Are Juna on the field? Juna jump on. Oh, do to jump on. Technically, I never said Dr. Hu. No, you picked Doctor Who.

I never said it. I thought this was post-game. I thought this was post-game. You picked your pick. Did I make the run? Did I bring on a Dr. Who head here so weird? Did I pick it? You did utter the name Dr. Who, though.

I said Dr. Who, but I said I've never seen Dr. Hu. I didn't say my pick is Dr. Hood. Stand on your pick. Stand on your pick. Stand on your pick. Now, by the way, it's, Charles, if I have to take a mushroom off your pizza, it's like it's still there I should have maybe

maybe I should have picked Loki I didn't have Loki I didn't have Loki on my board I wanted all movies and I wanted goddamn motherfucking Bill and Ted

yeah but I'll pick Doctor Who shout out to David Tenet shout out to Matt Smith You're reading off a list I'm not I'm not I don't have any doctor I don't have anything

shout out to all I just know that those guys were Doctor Who Shout out to the black person that was Doctor Who recently. And it changed the world. He's about to be Doctor Who. He's about to be Doctor Who. Jody Whitaker was Doctor Who one time, right?

Jody, shout out to Jody Whitaker, one of my favorite Doctor Who's of all time. See, let's choose Doctor Who. Lime. Wow. Let's actually go on the board. Like, what were the biggest movies? So you already said Terminator. no one picked Tenet, which

Why would you? I love Tenet, but it can't. No, man. Nobody picked Loki. Nobody picked any Austin Powers movies. I was going to do that as a troll, but I was like, no, I wanted, I want to I want to, I will say as a group, the fact that Loki wasn't chosen is not going to vote well for the people that people are going to fucking go, how did Loki not get chosen?

I mean, we were just, we were in a bit more of a movie mode, this draft. but I think that we were. We were, and also time crimes was drafted. Yes, it was. So, Sclerodil minutes. Put you on game, guys. Watch that movie. I'm not about to go look at that shit.

Now, it's great. I'm about to go watch Jurassic Bark with Bozeman. All right, so let's, before we get into a million-dollar baby corner, let's go over everybody's picks. Van has Back to the Future, Interstellar Army of Darkness, Doctor Who.

Steve has Edge Tomorrow, 12 Monkeys, Bill and Ted's Exalted Adventure, and Time Crime. Jones. He has Back to the Future Part 2, Days of Future's Pass, Arrival, Palm Spring. I have T2, Endgame, Donnie Darko, Futurama. Arjuna, can you come on real quick? Out of the four, who had the best and worst showing in this draft?

I mean, worst, I'm sorry, Steve, it's got to be yours. Don't you worry. Don't you worry, buddy. Don't you worry about me. Shout out to all my who hits. Who that? Shout out to all my... Shout out to all my...

Shout out to all my Ulians. Shout out to all my Wooligans. Do they got... Wait, do they got... Shout out to all my... Do they got Who Ware? Enter the 36 chambers. To the Hout.

Shout out to my hooligans, baby. Who they out there, man. Everybody. Shout out my people from England. You know what I'm saying? The man damn, bro. The mind them. From the Lendium.

Shout out to Daniel Kaluya. damson Idris and the rest of my who that's my hooligans my niggas from day one you feel me why I'm talking about you know what I'm saying? Labor party bitch all of that Labor Oh my

So who won? Jesus Christ Not of everyone are you know I think Charles I think you're going to win the probably will I don't know Van can you please take us to the moment in the pod

that we've been all waiting for Okay Twilight twists my friends During last week's episode, Jomi revealed that he had never seen the 2004 classic Million Dollar Baby. This is a movie that was Oscar Bate. Hillary Swank won an Oscars, directed by Clint Eastwood, also starred Morgan Freeman and a young Anthony Mackie. Also had the dude from, what's that movie? What's the guy's name? What's the guy's the guy's the fucking guy?

DJ Qualls? No, not DJ Qualls. he's like Michael Pena? Not Michael Pena The other guy The nerdy guy They got socked up

In the movie What's his name again? Oh, Jay Bruchel Yeah Who was in Tropic Thunder He's also in Tropic Yes, correct

The story is about an amateur boxer Hillary Swank She wants to be a boxer She keeps She's a waitress She's from a small town She keeps asking Clint Eastwood to train her

Train me boss Train me And he doesn't want to do it at first because she is a lady, but then he trains her into a million-dollar baby. She goes on an intense winning streak, becomes one of the best female boxers, one of the best boxers period that Clean Newswood has ever had.

And then something happens at the end of the film, which is fucking wild. Jomi had never seen it before. Jomey, I want to ask you, what did you think about the movie prior to the twist? I was really rocking with it. I was, you know, I'm locked in on, all right, you know, of course he doesn't want to train her. You know, he's going to eventually train her, so it's going to be fine.

And she's going to, you know, be the greatest boxer in the world. She's going to be like, she's going to have the WBA belt and all the, you know, you know, super, she's going to be the greatest boxing we've ever seen. She's going to hold all the belts. It's going to be incredible. It's going to be crazy. I can't wait to see the ending of this film. Wow.

I can't wait to hear a set to the top of boxing them. I was really, really excited to see that. Jummi, tell us what happened in the last. In detail, tell us what happened and then how you felt. So, if you hadn't seen the movie, she is finally getting her title fight. And she's fighting this East German woman. They make sure to, like, let us know she's East German. And this lady fight super dirty, super dirty to the point where after the bell has been run

and both guys are going, both women are going to their corners. She punches Hillary Swank. She punches Maggie in the face. And Maggie, of course, not expecting it, you know, goes down. Normally, that's all well and good, except for the fact that the stool that she used to sit on

was also in that same corner, and she hits her neck on the stool. and is paralyzed from the neck down for the rest of the film. There are 40 minutes left in the movie, and Hillary Swank is in a bed for all of it. It is tough. It is jarring. It is...

Completely fucking unnecessary is what it is. Unnecessary. That's what the movie is about. No, it is completely. like I was physically mad. All right? Like when I watched the movie, I ended up doing a movie with Hillary Swank after that.

And she came around to actually sign copies a million dollar baby for the people and nobody asked her, but she did it anyway. So look, she's very nice lady. And I told her, I think the movie is manipulative and I think the movie is un,

I'm emotional. Y'all all know this. I'm emotional. As we speak right now, I'm DMing the writer of the Jurassic Bark episode. I swear to God. I swear to God, I'm emotional. I didn't go to that motherfucking movie to have either a commentary or a discussion about euthanasia. Okay, so that's the part that got me.

Or B, to watch her get fucked up. At the end of the movie out of nowhere. It's the kind of thing that really gets under my skin. I'm glad that you had to see it, Jomey, at almost the same age that I had to see it. Did you cry, Jomey? Did you cry at any point? So here's the thing, right?

Here's the thing. I didn't cry when, like, her whole arc. I was just more dumbfounded and just like, I could not believe what I was witnessing. I was sad, obviously, but I was like, she was so close she was right there the part that got me part that got me man

was when was when old Clarence was beating up danger in the in the joint in the boxing ring brother that was that was cruel man when he put the one glove on and started beating

the shit when you're talking about okay so Clarence beat up danger and then Morgan Freeman put on one glove and then beat the shit out of Anthony Mackey's character. I have a problem with that. What's the problem, man? What's your problem with that?

He called the N-word. Danger called Clarence? Yeah. When? Danger used to throw that N-word around. I mean, at the beginning of the movie, he did it to, what's it called? To, I can't remember. Morgan Freeman.

And Morgan Freeman was like, man, he just, you know, he got something. You know what I'm saying? Danger got a little something. You got to understand. Danger had to get what he deserved, bro. I don't know, man. Look, my thing is you can't, like, something obviously is not right with danger. You got to let some stuff slide.

You understand what I'm saying? I get it. I can see what you're saying. You know, so you can't go up and be on him like that. You guys have some respect, you know what I mean? I'm about the DM Clint Eastwood. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ.

I am, bro. Make sure that your Avi is a chair emoji or something. Yeah, I'm about the DM. I'm a, because I, I, I tell you straight up, I'm glad you had to watch it. Charles, when you first saw a million-dollar baby, what did you think the movie went from Rocky to an episode of Black Mirror?

And it was like so quick and out of nowhere that her whole life. And then her family comes to the, her family comes to the hospital. And they don't even care? They don't even fucking care. They go, they went to Disneyland. Think about how, like,

I'm in there, I'm like, okay, I get her family doesn't give a fuck, but you're going to come to the hospital wearing all the merch that you just got. The whole nine, it's just, bro, when she takes the, she bites the two. Dog, that movie is fucking rough, bro. It's rough for no reason. All right, here's, to put it to you guys, I saw this movie, I think, when I was 11 or 12 at, like, my grandparents' house. And I was like, oh, man, this is just like, Rocky. it's going to be a nice boxing movie.

And then I just have to sit there when she hits the, like, I was like dumbfounded. Like, I was just like this little kid being like, wait, what? This can happen when you're chasing your dreams? Like, this is life? That shit fucked me up. You guys want to know, you're like,

damn, what happened in Charles's life to make him this way? It was seeing a million dollar baby at 10 years old. And me like, nothing's worth pursuing it. So imagine, like at the end of Rocky, Rocky and Adrian are walking home in the streets of Philadelphia. and then they get shot in the head by Meek Mill. By Meek, you know what I'm saying?

Shout out Meek, man. Street, shout out, shout out everybody in Philly, man. Shout out Philly a tough place. That would be, all right. That would be more so Creed. And then Spider-Punk needs to go back in time to save Rocky and then he accidentally makes drill. No.

Yeah, think about that. Like, Creed. Like, Creed, they walking home. Shout out to my man, Tone Trump. Think about, remember when Tone Trump got into him. this is perfect. Think about it.

And remember the original Creed when Tone Trump got into it with Creed? Remember that part? Yeah. Think about if Cree wins and then he's walking through the streets of Philly and Tone Trump's guys come back on him. Shout to Tone Trump.

He would never do that. And then put him in the hospital for the rest of the movie. All of a sudden, you're like, yo, man, why? Why would that happen? You know what I'm saying? Like, what the fuck?

Did you all just... You're acting like this is not a good movie. It's still a good movie. It's just really sad. It's just so sad. Dog, they ruined it. No, they did it. They ruined the movie with that stupid.

It doesn't have a happy ending. It doesn't need to have a happy ending to be a good movie. Do you understand the fucking gulf of difference between a movie doesn't need? She could have lost the fight. And that wouldn't have been happening. You understand the difference between the gulf of difference between a movie doesn't need to have a happy ending? And then watching the character break her neck and. commit suicide.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, do you understand? First of all. Does she bite her tongue off? Yeah. Don't. Twice.

Twice. Bro. It's too much. It's a lot. It's a lot. Oh, when Clint Eastwood has to go to the hospital for the last time and do that shit, I was like, what? That was a part of the movie that, like, really like, I was like, all right, she breaks

your neck. She can't walk. Like, that's tough. But when she's like, you remember what my daddy did for Axel? And I was like, no, bro. You can't ask him to do that, man. Yes. After all that, you can't ask him to do that.

It's like a totally different movie. It's Dr. Kavorkian. He has to kill. He's killing his daughter. Like, that's what, like, oh, this is his daughter. And they're like, the movie's like, all right, you're going to watch a father kill the most important person in his life. And I was just like, what is. All right.

What do we all, real quick, we got to go. What do we all rank Midnight Baby on the Midnight Meter? Jomi, you can go first. Jesus. All right. It's a 10. It's a 10. It's a 10 for me.

It's 10. Steve? Like, the 9? Like, it's rough, but like it's good. Like, there's a reason that it made the Oscar run. Like, it's sad, but man. Charles? It's a 9.

It's a 1. I'm never in my life. I don't like being fucked with it like that. And I'm never in my life ever, ever. look at that motherfucker again. Ever. Like, ever. The movie is great. Okay? It's a one emotionally for me.

In my mind, I'm a go with a nine. All right. I'll put this on the same level as across the spider verse. Just above Matrix Reserations. Just above Matrix Reserations. Solid eight. Bringing that back. A hard eight.

That was fun. We should, you know what we should do? we should like just throw more random movies in. More bullshit movies. We all need to figure out what are the movies we haven't seen with like really good twists. And they'd be like, yo, just nobody's spoiler for it. What's time crimes on the midnight meter? I'm not looking at time crimes, man.

Losz Florida, Clevertebetti. All right, we're done. All right, that is a wrap. What a fun episode. Follow us on socials, Insta, Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, save Jomi's job. This Friday, Min Edition. is going to review Transformers Ries of the Beast. I got to be honest with you.

I'm more excited for the Min Edition pod than I am actually for the movie. I'm going to go see the movie. I'm not going to go see it. But this pod might be the pod that breaks up the men boys. I'm going to be so honest on this pod. And Joe, he's going to have to hold me back. Because you don't have any understanding a scope or vision. That's really what it is.

You just don't understand what is going on in these films. Jessica is going to have to break up a fight. Her first day. It's going to be tough. Jessica's going to make, I wouldn't say her debut. I don't know. Have we heard Jessica on anything yet before?

No. Is it going to be her ringer-verse debut? Hell. Yeah. For Jessica Clemens, but not her ringer-verse debut. She's incredibly smart, and has done a lot of other stuff,

but she's making her ringer-verse debut on the Min Edition podcast. Monday, the House of All right will be building their best Spider-Man movie. Spider-Man. So my best Spider-Man real quick is Andrew Garfield at Spider-Span. Oh, I bet you guys didn't think that. Solid pick. Sam Ramey as the director.

Ew. Oh, daddy. Vulture is the villain. Oh. Yeah, whatever. Next Friday, the Midnight Boys will return to talk about the greatest superhero movie ever. It's a pre-ten on the midnight meter. I'm giving it a pre-ten, which is the Flash.

All right? The Flash is, that's next Friday. You guys, there are some takes that are about to. be flying these next couple of weeks. We're building up to secret invasion in a couple of weeks. There's some takes they're about to be flying. The Flash movie, we might go three hours.

I don't know. We have to talk about it all. We'll talk about the narrative behind the movie, all the stops and the starts. The whole deal. That's going to be a packed podcast of PeeP. Boo! Don't miss it, baby. All right.

Credits. Our producer is Steve, the architect Alman, Jomi, the explainer at dinner on its on socials. Uh, hashtag million dollar Jomi. Hey! Hey! An additional production from Arjuna Rangipal. Before we sign off, I want to tell you guys something. This Saturday at the Applebee's and Chatsworth.

Oh, my. At 3 o'clock, I'm going to be there. Rachel Lindsay's going to be there. Jomi is going to be there. Steve might be there. Steve is getting to be a little bit like Arjuna where he doesn't come to the things that he's invited. What are you talking about? Okay.

So we're going to be there. Just throwing back some $10 rum buckets at Applebee's and Chatsworth. Anybody that's listening is free to pull up. You guys are free to pull up and join us. I'll buy you a $10 rum bucket. We're getting it in. For what reason? I don't care.

My goal is to spend $1,000 at Applebee's. That's my goal. That's my goal. My goal is to spend $1,000 at Applebee's. Just give me all of those potato skins and I'll make you hit that goal. Potato skins, skin, skin, skin, skins, whatever. All right, Charles, take us out. Van was pandering with that Doctor Who picked.

And Avengers end game, I was a little out of line. But it can't be any worse than Steve picking time box. All right, are we going to have the debate that Jomey started yesterday? What started? Okay, so we're talking about what movies are time travel movies. And we're trying to figure out the rules of the draft. So, you know, we have a clear understanding of what's going on today. and a movie that came up when you look at time travel movies is Jumanji.

Right? The original Jumanji with Robin Williams and Kristen Dunst. Like is it also his thing, right? At the end of the movie, he goes back 30 years or however long it is. And then the movie diverges into two separate timelines, right? the one where he didn't come back and they did all the Jamongy Ventures and the one where he did

and they live a nice life and apparently they adopt Christian Dunst and her brother allegedly like there's it's very you know he he literally travels back like the movie starts with him traveling all the way back to the jungle

period of Earth right and then him coming back like I don't know I think it technically like it's really deep in the weeds but it's a time I would say no it is here's the thing It is a movie with time travel elements, which is different than a time travel movie.

Because here's the thing, Jomey. Here's the thing, Jomey. You said that at the end of the movie, he goes back in time. Well, at the beginning of the movie, he goes back in time. No, he doesn't. No, stop, stop. Where does you go at the beginning of the movie? No, you didn't travel back in time in the beginning of the movie, and that's the

event is for the movie. He gets stuck in the board game, which is basically stuck in time. He is stuck in time. Here's what I would argue here. Here's what I would argue here. They did not have the goal of completing Jumanji with the idea knowing that he was going to go back to fix everything. But he did. No, here's what I'm talking about.

The thing that we've been saying is going to be justifying the idea of time travel movies is the fact that time travel is instrumental to the plot of the movie to start. Okay, so if you don't get stuck in time, movie don't happen, right? Jumonti puts you in a pocket dimension where when you finish the game, you automatically reset to when you weren't. weren't playing it. That's what that's the rule is now. And they started, and they started the game like 30 years, 40 years after the fact,

because he was stuck in the game. I would say no. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I kind of feel like, you know, I just kind of feel like it's tight. Kind of feel like you gotta have the conversation.

Time crimes. You know? Time crimes. Los Cano do you menis.