The Ringer-Verse - Things We Missed in 2024 | Mint Edition

Episode Date: December 31, 2024

Come and end your year right with Jomi and Steve plus Jessica Clemons looking back at some of the tv shows and movies that we didn’t get a chance to cover on the Ringer-Verse! Anything from ‘The Dragon Prince’ to ‘Wicked’ is in play before this year comes to a close. Hosts: Jomi Adeniran and Steve Ahlman Guest: Jessica Clemons Producer: Jonathan Kermah Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's the final pod of the year of 2024. As we go on, we remember all the pods we did. together. And guess what? The only person that we could ring out the old year and into the new. The beautiful, the lovely, the wonderful Jessica Clemens is here to talk about all of the great things that we didn't talk about in the year

of our Lord 2024. Jess, how are you? I'm good. I forgot to, this is going to be, this is the worst way to start the podcast. No, it's not. I'll tell you what, the last 20 minutes was the worst way to start the podcast. That's all getting cut, by the way. None of that making it. Nobody will know this. Oh, my God. But I forgot this show.

We immediately started talking about Marvel Rivals and my wallpaper is Jeff. Yay! Oh my gosh. And real quick, real quick. Fuck Jeff the Shark. I'm putting it all right. No, Jeff the Landshark, I love you.

That's my number two up. Hey, listen, if you main Jeff the Shark in Marvel Rivals, I said it on the Regalverse Recommends Pod. I'm saying it here. Drop your location. Meet me outside. We got to fight. I need them hands.

You're going to fight Steve? Yes, Steve. Let's go. This is like the fifth reason he's fighting me today. We got it. Hey, bro. Listen,

it's the end of the year. I'm going to extend forgiveness. I'm going to extend an olive branch. Amen. I'm going to extend all of branch. I appreciate that. You say some dumb shit again, though. In 2025,

his hands. No, that's number two. Number one is Iron Fist, man. Oh my God. If I hear that shit, man, I'm sick of time.

He's flaming at me. I'm three hits. Bing, bink. Moose. Moom. I'm dead. It's that quick. Leave me alone. The only bonus I have as Mantis is that I can numb

them or stop them in their tracks for a little bit. I can run away for five seconds and he climbs a wall, flips three times, and then decapital. It is great when you have an iron fist attacking you and just like sleep bomb. But I can only run, again, so far. He chases me down.

He chooses me and I feel it. I feel it. I feel it. He should be plunged too. Pick some, aim something. You know what I'm saying? Aim some. Coward. Exactly. That is true. Honestly, Iron Fis Mains, you guys are cowards. Thank you. You cannot play as another character.

Exactly. You got no versatility in your bag. No. One trick pony. Nobody knows how to do that. Anyway, what we do love is to hear from you guys and welcome you in to 2025, but we're going to talk about the things that we didn't get to talk about, really, or didn't quite cover so much on the Ring of Verse Feed and on Mint Edition.

Now, before we get into that, programming reminders. Coming up next on the Ring of Verse feed, on the 2nd of January, we have history on The Midnight Boys. We have the recast, or as it's called, the black cast for Lord of the Rings, where Pew, Pew, Pew, Pew Productions. Yeah, no, just Pew Pew. Pew, Pew, Pee, P.P. Makes you recasts all of Lord of the Rings with a black cast, Black director, and a new setting. So stay tuned for that. Real podcaster.

Jess, would you be tuning in? Would you be listening to that? Yeah. If no one choose Nia da Costa, we're going to fight. Okay, what if she was in the discussion? Okay, that's fine. She was in the discussion for a certain character, which we will not spoil. Yes, yes.

We absolutely did. All right, and then we also have more House of R coming at you. It's going to be a great year. And even a couple of surprises that we're not even legally allowed to talk about it just yet. We can't even talk about it just yet. It's going to get in trouble. The lawyers. But it's coming very soon.

where can we find all of that Jomey? You can find all of it on TikTok for now, on Twitter, on Instagram, and on Facebook at Ringiverse, Lock In. What would you, what would be your, like, inaugural, like, your final TikTok on the Ring of Vers feed? Do you want to go, like, you know, band on the Titanic, just like keep playing the hits,

or do you want to do something crazy? No, man, you got to just let it fly, brother, you know what I'm saying? You just got to play all the stuff that we were like, so I got a whole bunch of, like, save sounds. Just air out the drafts? Yeah, I got like, a whole bunch of stuff that like, like this would be funny,

but I don't know if this is like, you know, for our audience. True. But like I made it like for me, I'm gonna let all that fly. Okay, go. It's not going to way,

right there. You can't see it no more. You might as well. I love that. You know? I'm gonna be so mad if I air out all my drafts and they go viral. Do you know what I'm saying?

When TikTok goes away, it doesn't go away for the rest of the world. That's the only thing. That's true. That's true. Like Canada's still rocking with you. Yeah, but you can become famous like Mexico.

You know what I'm saying? Why would you choose Mexico? You touched down. I want to be famous in Russia. You touched down in Paraguay and you're just like famous for some reason. It's for some draft you aired out. We love your TikToks, man. You got to make some more so you can't make more.

I can't make more. I have to go to Canada or Mexico every single time. Kendrick Breakdown. Kendrick Breakdown. Yeah. On TikTok. I can do that on YouTube. Exactly.

That's going to be. So yeah, that is true. Like, so if I just like, I'm like out of the country one day. Like I'm like, oh yeah, I'm in London. I can automatically get, I can just open the app and it works. Exactly. That's the same thing with Kerm when he jobs. touches down in Tokyo.

Konigua. There you go. Konichi what? Somebody saw Sonic 3 with us. I did. All right. So let's get into it. Things that we missed in 2024.

It's been a long year. It's been a packed year. It's been a very, like, I'd say it's a solid, like for the amount of things that we were able to miss, it's a pretty good backlog of things that we can talk about today. So we're each going to bring our, like three picks of things that we wanted. Mostly like TV movies,

but if we have games or anything else that we want to talk about, this is just a yapp sesh. We're here. It's the end of the year. We're going to have fun. If you don't let it fly, it'll be loose. Yes. Loosey.

Jessica Clemens. Yeah. It's been too long. Sir. What did you? Well, Sir. What did you mean?

Sir. Did you see that Christopher Nolan got knighted? He did. Yeah, he's Sir Christopher Nolan now. I was already calling him Sir Christopher. He also said gladiator two was his favorite film of the year. Oh, no, he did it. Yeah, he did.

No, don't tell me. I'm going to act like I didn't hear you say that. Okay, well. I'm going to act like I didn't hear you say that. I don't know. Okay, continue. Yeah, we will. All right.

Jess, what would you like to talk about that you haven't to speak on yet? I want to talk about wicked part one. Okay. All right. So you'll know that House of Argette. Wait, why did you make that one? I know. I liked, we're going to talk about wicked, but the wicked for good, let's be for a moment.

You need to under, you don't understand. I don't. For good makes sense for part two. It's going to be for good. I don't know. We could have had so many more puns. No, it's not a pun. It's for good.

Nah, here's what you're going to do, right? If you're going to call it Wicked Part 1, you've got to call it Wicked Part 2. Let's be serious. Yeah. If you just call it wicked and then you said Wicked for good, I could take that. But you can't do Dune Part 1 and it'd be like, Dune, he'll worm now. That don't really make sense. Dude warm time or something like that.

Yeah, that don't really flow. You feel? me, just like lock me in with the part one, part two joint. That's all I'm asking. I would agree. I would agree. It's for the song. I get it.

I get it. I wouldn't know. You'll know, you will know, like, eagle-eared listeners will know that House of R did their Glickett breakdown later on in the year, but we didn't really get to talk about on the Ringarverse that much. Midnight Boys left it out. Mint Edition didn't. We've all seen it.

Yes. Jess. What do you think? I love Wicked. I love Wicked. I love Wicked so much. I love Wicked. I really enjoyed it.

I really did it. I really did. Here's the thing. I don't unappreciate Wicked for what it was. And I was not, this was not on my radar for something that I needed to see in the year. My girlfriend's a massive fan of Wicked. As all girlfriends are. As many, it tend to be.

And we went at a wonderful time. But what I will say is that I've also seen the Broadway show. And I do like the Broadway show a lot. I think For everything that was enjoyable about it I think I just might be a bit too Kristen Chenoweth-pilled To fully get to appreciate Ariana Grande

Are you kidding? And this again, I'm not saying she's not great She's wonderful She's the best part of the movie No, she's not She's the best part of the movie She did a really good job She's the best part of that movie.

That's not true That's not true The Revo is the better part of that movie This is hard That's not true Okay here's what I'll say They both did excellent jobs but I'm supposed like

I hated Glinda bro I hated Glenda dog in the movie but Ariana's performance despite all that I was like I still mess with you I think that's the magic of the performance is that I hate the character

of Glinda Gullinda with the Gala with the Gha but as I'm watching a movie I'm like Arianna's doing her thing man popular than shake you through the boots come on now

so again I think popular is her massive set piece. That's the thing that like endears us all to Glinda. And again, I think the bubblyness that Ariana does very well, Ariana's funny in this movie.

She's funny. She's been funny. It's that Nickelodeon like Slash comedy that she's always going to have. That's why she's so good on SNL. She's like genuinely is very good at comedy. She's capital T talented. And like again,

I'll never take that way. I just think that like Cynthia Revo is like a galaxy that swallows that movie. and she's so, so, so great. She ate it up. And that's also why I love Wicked so much, because I'm like, people can choose which one they like more the stage or the movie, and it's still that they like it.

It's not, like the people that genuinely just don't like musicals or don't like Wicked don't like either one. And I'm like, that's fine. But most of the conversation that's been around this is just talking about which one was the best. Or not even which one was the best, which song in the musical was the best, which character did the best because they liked it all around.

Here's another slightly problem. Do you feel like it's okay that they split this into two parts? Yeah, because, just like intermission, I wanted to feel like that for the stage play. Are you not at all afraid that they might run out of juice in that second part? No, there's nothing to lose. Not the new songs that are going to be written for part two. Not by the fact that there's going to be like, like, no spoilers for part two of what Wicked is going to be.

But if either, there's more stuff to dance with. There's more stuff to dance with. But all of the big numbers are in the first half. Yeah. But for good is a lot of people's favorite. And so that's like... I don't... Okay, again, this is probably not my wheelhouse.

I didn't know that for good is that big of a stuff. Like, it's Define Gravity popular and then whatever you talk. Defying Gravity is always number one. But people that love Wicked understand like the me... Like, for good is so necessary to the entire plot. Like above that. I don't know. That's personally, personally, personally.

I don't really like Wizard and I. Not on stage. Cynthia Revo made me like Wizard and I. I didn't care about it before. I didn't care about it before. Again. Same with the play. Cynthia makes all of this happen.

Yeah. Well, even I wasn't the biggest fan of Dancing Through Life until the movie. That was a really good number in the movie. Yeah, and I was obsessed with that song now because of the movie. I was like, yo. Dancing to Run. If you don't punch this girl in her face.

She'd be playing with you this whole movie. Lock in. Forget all this. No, the dance. The Tien. It was necessary. It's not Wicked Part 2 running the fade. She had a hit with a stokel stutter, man.

Like, that's what I would have done. You know what I mean? Those micro braids were too tight. She couldn't do it. She couldn't ruin the micro braids. Also that, that will have changed from after this, but like her hair, the microbraids. And then also in The Last of Us, when she also had braids done, I was like, who the fuck is doing their hair in these worlds? And also give me their phone number.

The fact that not only are they doing their hair that good in the apocalypse. And Last of Us, I was like, Storm. We both know that your hair looks too good for a zombie apocalypse. I was like, who did it? Because your hair would, my hair would be grown out, everything all out. I'm like, I can't take it out. I can't take it out. I really, really, really enjoyed the movie one that I thought it was.

I'm not a beautiful. Are you not a big musical person? Not really. Again, I did musical theater as I was a young end. I need those home videos. I'm a big fan of like, I like, you know, high school musical. But like, you're not, what you're not going to do is be like, hey, yo, man, we're going to go watch. You know, we're going to go pantages.

We're going to watch so-and-witch and which. I'm like, hey, man. I was a witch and witch. Brother, man, you got to, like, I saw Lion King. Maybe I do I do like musical theater. I think you do, Jomey. I think you actually do and you really need to be. I went to go watch, my mom, she teaches at, or she's an AP at a school.

And she went, they did a field trip to Panagasy to see Lion King. She was like, you guys want to come. I was like, I'll come. I'm doing nothing. Went to it. It was bothering. And you liked it. I didn't like Lion King.

You liked Lion King? To be fair, I saw it recently. And because I know a lot of people have seen it when they're children, so they're like the magic. And I was like, no, I can see that these are people in really cool costumes. And then the way that they acted was very weird. But also, I was like, I don't like that the hyenas are horny. Okay.

It made me very uncomfortable. That's fair. It made me so uncomfortable. Yeah, I was like, I'm the only horny hyenaeanhas. I have two, I have two questions for you, for the both of you. Two questions for the, Jesus Christ, man. I drank too much water. Um, for the,

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Moving on. Now you asked something to say. Yeah, question for you guys. Do you think that the, like, all these live action animated adaptations, mainly like this, the Lion King movie and the Mufasa movie that came out this month, do you think, I kind of wish that they would go the Broadway route and just make them human, characters. That would be really fun. As

those people. Nah, but I mean, you gotta put them in the world. Like, don't make, like, you could do the Broadway show as a movie for the Lion King, but like, I think that's the actual way you should do this. Yeah, to make, well, would you want like a cinematic stage? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So you want, like, Mufasa as a guy? Yes. That's just Hamlet. I understand that, but, like, if you do a movie adaptation of the Lion King Broadway show, I'd be more down for that. It's just again, but it's, you just. I don't know. I understand that it's Hamlet, but that's what the movie is. That's what I'm saying, but they're lions.

That's what makes it different, is that they're animals. And I'm telling you that a person dressed as a lion is more believable to me than whatever the fuck Disney's doing with this. Is it though? Yes. Do you want to see C.G.I. Goop sing Hakuna Matata or do you want people singing Okunumatata? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, on stage. In a movie. In a movie.

All right, nah. All right, man. All right, man. Cut this out, bro. Be for real, man. So you want... Yeah. Wouldn't you want to see a movie version of the Lion King?

No, no, no. Let's think about it. Let's think about it. Let's think, like, let's be for it, right? So you want Beyonce and Donald Glover in a studio, dancing, singing whatever that song is. You're telling me that's not Blockbuster Box Office success right there? They sing in that love song together as their,

but they're like, we're supposed to imagine them as lions. but they're real people? Yeah. Yeah, you're not being serious. No, I dig it. Yeah. I'm for it. Yeah, you're fired.

Put a little prosthetics on them. I don't care. You're fired. You're fired. You're fired. Yeah. Cizel would be there with the bug makeup on. It's all there.

You don't be serious. I think that's way too complicated. I think it's overroth. Okay, fine. Second question, Jessica Clemens. When the Broadway adaptation of the greatest showman comes out, will you be there for that? I.

Because they previewed that at D-23, and let me tell you that brought the house down. Then probably. Okay. If it brought the house down? Absolutely. Dude, they previewed a number from D23. Jomi and I were there.

We saw that and we saw Hercules. That dude was incredible. Yeah. I genuinely, I want to see Hercules on Broadway because I need to see. He made me want to see. I didn't care at first for Hercules on Broadway. Then I was like, wait a minute. No, he's really really good.

But if I get there and he's not there, I'm going to be so upset. He's specifically, yeah. All right, that's wonderful. Jomi, what else did you want to talk about? I'm going to talk about a film that kind of recently came out, and we might have touched on it a little bit. I might have mentioned a little bit in the animation awards that we talked about.

Moana, too. We didn't talk about Moana, too. And I know that it's a movie that people, a lot of people have seen. It's made like nearly $800 million at the box office as of today. And it's probably going to make a billion by the time everybody's hearing this

but it's a here's the reason I want to bring it up is because it is not the first Moana if you've seen it you know it's supposed to be

a scrap Disney Plus show and then you turn to a movie Lynn Moreau Moranan it in return to do the music Right The music takes a little bit of a hit But as a Like there's story issues

But just as like a film It was cool I was literally I was sitting next to Eric Voss You know Eric Voss No No, you never married, well? It's great, dude.

Never heard of her. 10 out of 10, dude. Just a wonderful human being. He did tell me that. He was like, I saw Joe me there. And I was like, oh. Solid guy. Solid guy.

The movie ends, we're looking at each other like, a billion dollars. He said, like, we was going to make all the money because it's, it's a fun time. And I saw a tweet that was like, man. See, saw her life is now. Mawanna 2 came out, and nobody on the timeline is talking about it. I was like, guys. the movie's for children yeah

just like I'm sorry to say but like movies children that's why the movie's gonna make a billion dollars and you're not going to hear people talk about it because the main audience

are people who are not supposed to be online is not for it it genuinely isn't for us it genuinely is not for us it's one of those few movies where like they make like funny bits

but like if we're being completely honest these are for the four the three year olds to the 10 year olds People who are not supposed to be disgusted. They're not in the kindergarten going like,

hey, man, the cinematic achievement of one or two was incredible. I like that. Whereas Sonic 3, that's for the meme lords. That's for everybody. That I was like, felt, some of the jokes, I was like, this is definitely for children. Sonic 3 is for the people. Yeah, the babies.

You know what I'm saying? Jim Carrey cutting a rug like that? No. Jim Carrey parts were not for babies. But Sonic, some of the line Sonic were saying, like, aliens, why are we called aliens from a different? Oh, we are aliens. I was like, okay, babies.

Right? And so. Keep going, though, sorry. This, this is, it's a fun, it's a good time. Again, Moana, if we're talking about Moana One is like one of the, like a great achievement, legitimately an excellent film, the music, the story, the score, everything about it is basically perfect. It's not the same thing, Moana, too, but it's still a solid, solid film. And yeah, it's going to make a billion dollars.

Look, we talk about this a lot, but Disney, Disney's never making another original movie ever again. That's true. They never. Again, at D23, you're like, we are never. Whatever the movie? The closest are going to get is like Pixar doing it. Again, Toy Story 6. Toy Story's the new show.

Well, they have like Toy Story to work on Incredibles to work on. That's true. They're doing sequels. It's not out three. They have, they have, they have the one that's going to be about a body swapping gopher comedy. They got Elio coming.

They got Elyo coming. Elyo is coming, yes. They got the one that doesn't have the trans person in it. Yeah, they got like, you know, win or lose the show on Disney Plus coming. They have ELEO coming. And then they have that one with the, um, the gopher thing, whatever,

that's, you put your head into a gopher thing. I don't know what it's, I can't remember what it's called, but. It's also going back to the musical aspect of Moana too. I think Moana One, like Linman and Miranda is really good at doing theater musicals. And so the songs are like, can't be enough that you're repeating them over and over again

because it's like musical theater level music. Well, this is like a soundtrack, a cinematic soundtrack. Like the songs were more like, oh, this is like what, it's weird, it's hard to explain but I'm like this is what music music is and then when Lin-Manuel does it, it's like stage theater musicals. And so it's like a lot more

chipper, a lot more happy, a lot more easier to remember than like what was coming out Moana 2. And that's why I also think what made the difference between adults with Moana 1 and 2. So Moana, not a Pixar movie. No, it's not. Yeah, it's Disney. It's Disney, right? But the Pixar movies

coming out in the future. Elyo we mentioned Hoppers is the one we can't remember the name of. Oh, yes. Hoppers. Hoppers. Hotter Story 5, Incredibles 3. Right? And then remember, we're getting frozen

3 and 4. I'm going to eat those up. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not really, you know what I'm saying? After Hoppers comes out March 6, 2026, and we will not in our lifetime see another original

Pixar movie. Do you see these projections for like movies that are coming out in 2027? You're just going to be like, am I even going to be alive by that? Yeah. I mean, the entire DC Studios is like 2028, And I'm like, what the hell you told me that? Yeah, they announced Clayface for 2027, and I'm like, I'm not going to be alive.

Guys, yes, you are. I'm going to have grandchildren by then. I feel so far away. I feel like I'm going to be 56. Yeah, okay, but, okay, remember when they were like, Infinity War coming in 2018? We were like, dang, that's going to be crazy. That was six years ago. The clock's moves.

Six years is a long time. Yeah, it's going to move faster and faster. My heart is slowing down. Exactly, right? I mean, we spend all day dying. So why don't we have to be? Not on this pod This is when we truly live

We spend all day dying I'm sorry saying that We spend all day dying I mean God damn Jomey Might as well live a little Might as well Must spend all day dying Monitor though

That was yeah I think I do want to echo The fact that Moana 2 is not as bad As everyone was saying online It's crazy The heck was nasty I remember being like I'm genuinely not gonna see it And then I was given the task

To break it down And then I saw it And I was like Oh y'all made me think This was the worst thing That it's not bad at that Yeah, people are really, like, the dichotomy of internet discourse is only the best thing ever or the worst thing. Yeah.

You know it's crazy too because you know this movie is nuts because I was like, they could use a little more rock. More rock? That's no. That's horrible. Not, man. Then we're cooked. There's none enough rock. If we end our film discourse with that movie needed more of Dwayne the Rock Johnson, I do not agree with you.

Think about how much better the movie was. He was in there a lot. Think about how much better the movies when Moana and The Rock were together. I mean, yeah. Yeah. But that's because, oh, well, I will say, it was only better because it was the second half of the movie. Because the second half of the movie is the actual adventure. But that's what I'm saying.

They're not even getting, they get together, what, the N third? So in like 33% of the movie they're together, right? They go into the clan, the big clam. Yeah, that's when the movie, like, shoots off. Exactly. And that's what they mean. I'm like, that's like two-thirds way into the movie. But I don't think, even if they took the rock out of that part,

I still would have liked it. You know what I? Yeah, I still would like to do, but I'm like, if the rock should have been with Moana Way before then. Yeah. Well, again, and this was a part of it being a series first and then being made into a movie. Because they did take out a lot of that woman's character,

the one that, the Bat Fox lady. I love her. She was my favorite character. And then she didn't have a story. She's available. Hit my line. I can fix her. I can't figure you out.

And I never win. Jomey only wants, he wants, this is, these are things that I found out that he likes. He wants what he can't have? Yes. What he likes is the chase and fixing something that he can't fix. Damn. Listen. Damn, Joe.

Listen. You know what I'm saying? I didn't say I was perfect. Never said I was perfect. Okay. Damn, Joe. Never said I was perfect. Oh, boy.

Well, it's on to me now. I know that I've only got one horror fan here, and that's Jessica Clemens. I put two horror movies on mine. Oh, good. Maybe you put mine on in here. What did you put it? I'm talking about smile, too. Oh, I'm not.

Have you seen it? I like Smile 2. Smile 2 is great. Smile 2 is great. I know Jomi's not going to see this. Nope. I know Jomey's not going to be. Shout on Naomi Scott though.

Yeah, Newman's. Shout out to the homie, you know, lemonade mouth, Power Rangers, Aladdin. Real one. She's real one. She's great in this. Charlie's Angels. I love that Charlie's Angels. I love that.

It got a bad rap with Chris and Suez. It was really fun. It's just really. It's so fun. Literally, I was like, this was really great and fun at everyone. Really? Because Christine Stewart was so fun. Chris, sorry.

Chris Stewart is so funny. The 2019 Charlie's Angels from... They did the female Ghostbusters to it where they were like, this was bad. And I was like, it wasn't bad. It was not bad. Well, actually, the 2016 Ghostbusters was... I love the Ghostbusters.

Oh, my God. No, no, Jess. No. No, Jeff. I saw it in theaters. I was locked in. Chris has wrote the best part of that movie. No.

No. No. How many want John jokes do we need? Every single woman in that movie had me cackle. They're all doing the same bits though. You guys had, you guys. Listen, I understand that if I say

a bad thing about that movie. The old ones, too. The same bits were in the old ones too. Okay, Jess, am I allowed to not like 2016's Ghostbuzzards? No, you're not. And that's out of spite. All right, then I like it. Okay, thank you. But smile too.

Insane pander. Look, hmm? But smile two, I genuinely, I thought smile one was like a perfect premise. a perfect premise for a horror movie. And I think at the end of Smile 1, I won't spoil anything in Smile 1, but I think the premise was just let down by its ending,

and I didn't really think that it had anywhere creative to go. And then I see that they're making it a franchise and putting Smile 2 out there. I'm like, oh, this is not going to be great at all, because I don't even know if this story is worth being, like, anthologized or whatever. I'm all the way in on make as many smiles as you can now. in this. I want to see smile in the world of sports. I want to see smile in the world of like social media influencers. I want to see smile. This could be the next black mirror to me. This is so, so, so fun. Basically, like to the uninitiated, like a pop star is like haunted by a like mysterious entity that is attempting to kill her in a week. And it will, it's a weird smile demon that I won't spoil, but it looks.

fucking insane and really, really great. This was so, so fun. Just, tell me why you liked this. I just like, I like, I agree, I love the smile premise and I want to see it more. It's so easy to just replicate. It's so good. And so I'm like, just keep going. Just keep going.

Honestly, you don't have to spend that much money on it. They spend a lot of money on this. But I'm like, you don't need to spend a lot of money on this. I think, I just like the smile. I think I was pleasantly surprised. I didn't give it a lot of hope. My expectations were in the gutter because I was like, oh man, this is just going to be like a, like a, like a lesser version of an okay movie.

It's better than the first one to me. And you don't even really need to see Smile 1. No, no, no, no, you don't. But I think they... Oh, sorry, Jeremy. No, no, no. You know what movie they should have made it more of? Happy Death Day.

I was... Oh, man. They should have made a hundred of those. I was literally just about say... I think horror's back up with their sequels because Happy Death Day was so fun. That was... Happy Death Day, the sequel to Happy Death Day was fun.

Yeah. But still not as good as Happy Death Day. But it was different. But it was different. And I enjoyed that greatly. Everybody check out both Happy Death Day and Happy Death Day to you. Yes. But I also, I'm kind of glad that they are not really, like, jumping at, like, annualizing or, like, franchising happy death day because...

Yeah. You got to think of a really good hook for that. I'm glad it's kind of... Because it's done now. The premise is high concept. And it's, like, you got to do that well, and it's hard to do that well that often. Smile, I think, that can be formulaic. and still fun.

Just like make it a different setting. Make it different characters and have fun little twists on what like the entity can do. Yeah. And I think that's it. Yeah. Because I overthought the premise of Smile 1

being like, oh, this is like a deep thing about trauma and the people you pass it on to and all this other shit. And I'm like, man, that was stupid at the end. And now I'm just like,

oh no, it's the smile demon. And he's going to hunt people. That's great. Have you seen It follows? Yes. Yeah. It feels like the same kind of charade of like, oh, it's just going to keep following you forever.

And it doesn't need to be more than that. Well, yeah, but like, it follows as like a perfect movie. Oh, God, I love it. It follows, no. Top three. Top three for me. It follows as like a perfect thriller. I said easiest, like easiest idea. And I didn't think of it.

Genius. It's genius. It's probably one of the best premises I've ever seen for a movie ever. But yeah, smile too. It was really, really good. And more people should be talking about it. I'm sad that we have horror movies on here because Jomey's not going to see. Joey's not going to watch it.

Nope. Y'all got it. That's between y'all. Let me tell you what. A thing that you won't participate in? The Ouija movie. It was really good. I'm sure. I'm sure it was. The Ouija movie. I trust that it was. Damn. My next movie is more horny than it is horror. That makes it feel better.

I don't think anyone's seen this yet. I don't think anyone's seen this yet because it doesn't come out for two more days. God damn it. Okay. All right. No, I have a screener for this and I'm literally not watching it. No, Ferratu. Yes. I got a screener for this and I'm not watching it because I have to. watching the theater. It's so good.

Aaron Taylor Johnson is in this movie. Yes. I didn't see him do one ounce of press for Craven. You did? Oh, he did a lot. I'm sure he did. I'm sure he did. But I've seen him all over the Nosephiratu.

Mine is the opposite. I didn't see him once for Nosephratu. When I walked into the theater and saw him in it, I was like, oh, I didn't know he was even in the movie. I was like, I saw him on the, he was, I mean, I think, I think what it was, I saw him on the red carpet for the Nosephratu. I didn't see a lick of Craven press. Not a single ounce.

Oh man, he was all over TikTok. I saw him on Buzzfeed with the puppies. He was playing with the puppies for Craven. Good stuff. And that was beautiful. But Craven was not. No, no. Noseferatu.

Please go see it. I will say, though, it does have like maybe three jump scares. Maybe. Jump scares is not the issue. Okay. Okay, then you won't be scared. Oh, then it's gross stuff. It is gross.

But. But I like gross. It is, I will say that my friend got to see that screening that is like, Give us no, Sophia, like, see what we want back. A year ago, he was like, Jessica, it's, or it's vampires and it's horny. You're going to like it. And it's exactly that. Yeah.

And it is so good. Let me say something, Jum. I will say she did a great job for what I was not expected. I have not seen this movie. If you, if you sat through the substance this year, you can sit through Nosephiratu. Speaking of it. Am I wrong to say that? Yeah.

Oh, oh, easy. Easy. There's one gross scene in Nosephratu. And honestly, it's just because of the sound. But from my understanding, and I'm pretty sure that I'll be right on this too, Robert Edgar's is the king of vibes in his movie. Vives King? Vibes.

Immaculate. Willem to Foe in this? If you want some haunting ass, unsettling, spooky vibes, Bill Scarsguard. Oh, yeah, he's Bill Scarsguard. Oh, the weird-looking one? Yeah. Pennywise. And he does a voice the entire.

Hell yeah. You think that was the... Can't wait. Give me that screener. I want to just watch it over and over again. I need to see it over and over again. That was their first and only call, right? It's like, hey, Bill, man, we need a scary white guy.

It's all white guy. And guess what? He nails it every time. He nails it, every time. And then originally Lily Rose Depp's character is supposed to be Anya Taylor Joy. And I was like, this makes sense. And then she was like, I can't do it because of scheduling. So they gave it to Lily Rose Depp.

Wow. And apparently that is like a, she's a revelation in this movie. I was very surprised. I was like, oh, she is eating it up. I mean, again, I kept looking at him being like, but I know if Anya Taylor Joy took this role. Sure. She would have gone crazy. It's shocking to know that it's like, it's like, okay, Will Smith passes on the Matrix and you get Keanu Reeves.

Oh, wow. Keanu Reeves has still got it and he's a movie star? I didn't know Lily Rose Depp would have this in. And she does. And I'm very happy for her for this because I remember the last thing I saw her and was the idol. And I was like, this was a horrible thing that I even tried. You watched the I watched the first episode. Like everybody did.

No, not me. C.R. stuck with it the whole way. Shout out to CR, man. Hey, C.R. You got to come on the podcast. That's problematic. You know what I said? They watched the full thing?

They watched the whole thing. After the first episode, I said, I ain't going to do any more of this. I didn't even bother. Listen, C.R., you got to come on a podcast. We're going to figure something out. Chris Ryan, this is a call out of 2025. We're going to have you on in addition. I could not get into the idol.

Like, as soon as I saw the trailer, I was like, the weekend. Y'all got it, man. That's for y'all, man. I already got euphoria. That's enough garbage. It's a enough garbage. I mean, no. Y'all, that's, I heard, they, I heard Sam Levinson, I was like, I'm out.

Enough is enough. Yeah, I'm done with that guy. Free them, like, y'all got to free me of the shackles of Sam Levinson, man. I was going to say, free me from the shackles of Sam Levinson, there. That's a criminal right there. I'm literally, I don't want him near my stuff right. But you, God be damn, you know I'm watching Euphoria Season 3. And I hate it.

I hate that I'm going to. And yeah, and I'm going to sit there with my cane going, this is back in the day. And then I'm going to be like, who has a kilo. They're going to be, they're literally. They're literally. going to be senior citizens. And I'm going to be eating that up. I'm going to be like, look at how drugs did them.

Look at how drugs did them. The day it looks exactly the same and everybody else is. Everybody else is like 40 years older. It's not going to hit the same. Everybody looks like this. And yet somehow the stranger thing's kids are still alive. That's still coming out, by the way. Eventually.

Eventually. Allegedly. Those kids got social security though. But you need to watch Nosephraught too. You should. I think you'll like it. I really hope that. Alien Romulus.

You had a fun time with that, right? It was cool because I watched Spongebob. Shout out Spongebob. He introduced me to Nose Rossi. And that's what I went in thinking. Not the same. Not the same. Guess what?

Not the same as SpongeBob. Speaking of the substance, though. That was on my list. Things we missed in 2024, the substance. That was my third one on my list. Yeah, let's talk about it. I recommended it for Rigger versus Rick and Man's, but we didn't really talk about it in depth.

That movie, man. it's a it's a really fun and entertaining movie and then it gets gross for 20 minutes at the end gets real nasty it's been gross nah but it's not been gross yeah but like tall like just like pockets right tolerable like that's nasty but then a joke or the thing progresses

and you move on right like there's like the little bit of body horror when she first takes the substance and then there's a little bits here and there but it's nothing too crazy. As soon as the younger version, Margaret Qualey, takes a substance, and it becomes Monstro, Elizabeth. It just goes, like, all right, man.

I get it. Here's what I'll say. Turn it off. There's a really interesting balance and vibe that this movie has, where it's self-serious, but also, like, Gonzo as well. when you see Dennis Quaid

staring down the barrel of the camera and being like pretty girls must smile like that it's so unsettling and so weird What is he in that shrimp? But I can't That was the grossest part of it

The entire movie Yeah him eating that shrimp was the grossest part of that movie But I think it's so fascinating Like they're getting awards for this Yeah I'm shocked at how well received this movie was

because not only is it this like, like, you know, good, like, good message about, like, you know, body images using, like, Hollywood's vapid, like, aging and, like, how we run through people and just, like, dispose of them and all these great themes. It feels like, like, if it's a campy Twilight Zone episode, this is what it would be. I don't, I really don't know what I bump on this movie for, but something in me just, like, doesn't make me think that it's like that high on my list. I agree. I genuinely, I believe the hype I watched it and I was like, I love it as much as everybody else did.

And I think that's probably it's because people are more taken aback with how much they like a thing. Yeah. When forced to see it and think like, oh, that's not good. Oh my God, it actually is good. Now it needs a golden globe. Yeah, well, let's calm down. I will say, keep it up here.

I will say there's not that much about. like body dysmorphia when it comes to aging, especially in like horror. I think it's like people just kind of dealing with it. I think like I was thinking about it the other day after watching it. I was like, how many movies do we have that are in this trajectory? And I don't think we have that much.

I just watched like Britney runs a marathon. And I was like, oh yeah. I remember that movie. I was like, oh yeah, that was a woman that was like, I don't want to lose weight. I just want to feel better. And I was like, yeah, we don't really get those many movies. And I do think the winning part for the substance was it's Demi Moore.

Like a Demi Moore. Genuinely brave performance from her. It was in, yeah, so brave. And for like Demi Moore, literally Demi Moore. And I'm like, I think it was because of Demi Moore and Margaret Qualley playing this role that made people really devour it. I think it makes more sense when it's those two versus anyone else. I'll tell you what did make me think that it was worthy of Golden Globes.

And it's when Margaret Qualley Bruce Lee kicks Demi Moore across the apartment. Into the table. Oh my God. Like it was a fucking Looney Tunes cartoon. Yeah, that was incredible. I don't think I've laughed harder and more unexpectedly at anything. My favorite line was when she was watching

Margaret Qualia on the TV doing like a press junket and being like, she's Jurassic. She's like, I'm Jurassic. She's making that nasty meal. Oh my God. I was like, she's crazy beside herself, just like losing it. That editing made me so uncomfortable.

I said Demi Moore's eating this. I've never seen Demi Moore in my life act like this. Yeah, no. It was great. Amazing performance. Amazing performance, dude. It was incredible.

Again, that's not a movie I would have watched willingly, but the homies were like, yo, you got to go tap in. And then I'm sitting there and I'm like, hey, this is cool. Hey, I see it. Okay. And then she on stage and titty's dropping.

Yeah. The titty falls off and you go, okay. I'm like, okay, I'm going to throw up. Turn this. Oh, you can't do body hoarder that. I did it agree. I mean, it's a lot really quickly. She starts to explode.

Yeah. Hey, man. Shout out to that guy. she had over that one night and then she ran to the bathroom and he was just trying to check on her and she's just freaking out just like, go away! That poor guy. That scene made me so mad. I was like,

girl, you read the instructions. You know what it is? Yeah. I was like, do not shoot up that. I was like, do not shoot that up again. Oh, God. When he starts drawing out, it's more puss. Oh, God. I can't do the original needle in the hole in the back. I was, the hole that was already there. I was like, hmm, all right.

Why, is it free? What does it cost you? To be fair, I think it was only for pretty people. It was like, oh, it was only for like... If you qualify for the substance. It was, because they checked the spine, but then it was also like, that guy was gorgeous. She's gorgeous. The inner, like, the people example, and I was like, these are gorgeous people.

So I think it's only for, like, model types to keep their, like, standing in Hollywood. Maybe they'll tell other people that can, like, make it bigger, but it wouldn't be, like, normal people. But I'm just like, if this is supposed to be like a... I will say... I'm supposed to be like a... I will say, also regular people would probably give up halfway through. Like, I think... Listen, if I had even an inkling that a younger version of me was coming out of my spine and then leaving me as a husk for a week, I wouldn't do it.

But a distraught older, like, celebrity, like that person's going to keep continuing it because she's already been fed into this disease. Of course. And that desperation and that insecurity is really portrayed amazingly well by Demi Moore. Because I genuinely would have been like, I'm Demi Moore. I'm not taking anything. Look at me. I'm Demi Moore. This episode is brought to you by Prime. Obsession is in session And this summer, Prime Originals have everything you want. Steamy romances,

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I heard only good things. Really good. I'm behind. And I was about, I missed that, that stretch of all the horror movies. I had to watch the substance. I had to buy it. Right. On Amazon.

And then I saw, and then I was like, oh, I should buy a heretic. It was $24 to rent. I said, I'm going to wait until it goes down. Okay. Spend your money where you think it's worthy. But what I will say, Heretic, a ball of a time. Don't tell me too much. I won't.

I'll tell you what, have you seen the great film Ready or Not? Yeah, I love Ready or Not. Okay, great. Along those same lines, a bit more self-serious, a lot more of a villainous turn from Hugh Grant, and a really good, like, tongue-in-cheek exploration about, like, religion and faith, and, like, it's a cool, like, mazy, twisty-turny type of thriller. I like it when A-24 is going to try to, like, prestige-fi

like schlocky B premises I think that is probably my zone when it comes to A-20-premise? Huh? You think there's a B premise? Yeah. Like a villain mystery thing? Yeah.

This is really hard to do. It is hard to do. No, it's hard to do. But I think like the idea and the premise that they have is like rather simple. So when Mormon missionaries come to Hugh Grant's house, it's more of like an exploration about like how much they believe in what they're selling to him.

and it like I think it accurately and maybe like has an interesting thing to say when it comes to the idea of putting one's faith into others and like what somebody else's faith can mean to someone else

when that's sold to someone. It's a very good like intro monologue from our two main characters who are like going door to door looking to preach and it's this interesting humanization of both of these characters that it's not their entire personality

but their faith is something that is guiding them and as like a sort of like serial killer esk like you know thriller figure like Hugh Grant is put to them it turns their screws in a way that is like really interesting that I've actually like really really enjoyed and it's tongue and cheek and funny

at points but it's it's really really good And I hope people check that out. I think I might buy it when I'm back home for Christmas to watch my mom. It's worth it. It's worth it. For sure. This is the one with the candle? The candle?

Yeah, because... Oh, the smell of the candle? I saw the trailer. Oh, right, right, right. Yes, yes. It's not a real pie. Which is a candle. Diabolical.

That's kind of crazy. That's a great... I love that idea. Just that has an idea for a simple, like, I was like, oh, that's a good way to trap someone, I guess. Honestly, I'm a big candle advocate, only because, like, I have a terrifying fear of smell blindness for people that come over to my house. Oh, yeah. Does your house miss?

I don't think so. But it's more of just, I'm just like afraid of like my trash. I'm afraid of my trash getting. Just smell over. The way Jomey was already looking at me. Steve. I'm sorry. I was just afraid of my trash getting out of control and it gets stinking up the house.

I stared at you. Look directly at Jomey. Joe me's already staring. My man. I'm going to just keep it a buck with you, my boy. You can't, you can't let. that. You can't like that. This stay in the podcast, by the way. Yeah. You can't snitch yourself like that.

I can't snitch on myself. You kind of snitched up. You kind of sit there's a little bit. Do you leave windows open? Yeah, sometimes. You know what I'm saying? I've got a cat. I've got, like, I've got things that could smell. Here's the answer. You answer that question. Why do you keep a candle on? It's all my house to smell fresh. Yeah, well, my house to smell fresh. I want to, you know what I'm saying? I like to like some, you know what I'm saying? Some, some, you know what I'm going to be the person that, like, for breezes, like, crazy before people come over because I'm like, you're not fooling me. I'm like, I'm I know you did something smelly before I got here.

Fair enough. And that's not the way I do. Candles are a bit more subtle, more adult. Wow. I don't disagree with you, but it can't be like, my house, my stink. You can't tell people that. My house is. I'm just afraid that my house stinks.

I'm afraid of my house stinking. Why would you say, but why would you put these up? Why would your house be in a position this thing? Because I'm because of my trash. I make a lot of fish. I make stuff. I cook. Jomi, stop staring at me.

Look at him. He's talking to you. You're mad that I'm living my life. I'm trying to help you. He's trying to help you. I'm trying to help you. He's trying to help you. He's trying to help you.

He's trying to make a fish. You disney before the podcast started recording. No I'm saying. Now I'm trying to help you. That's how you treat me. All right. Say no more. Say less.

Say less. Jess, your last one. My last one. My last one was the substance, but just in case someone did say the substance, I had another one. Which I think you've seen. This should be your movie. Okay. Anora.

I haven't seen it. I got the screen in the mail. I got to watch it. Why haven't you watched it yet? Because I'm afraid of my emotions. Afraid of your emotions. Your emotions are going to be there. Afraid of falling in love.

Not because, okay, here's the thing, right? I saw last year the movie was past lives. Oh, God. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. It's not past lives. It's not past lives. See? It's not past lives.

It's not past lives. It's not sad. Past lives was sad as hell. People are like, yo, joe, joe me, why? Sad lives aren't that serious? I'm like, now it's not for you. You ever fumble a badie, bro? You ever fumble your wife, man?

Your wife. Your wife. You were a fumble your wife. That's real. It was the real. I have that mess. something to me. You don't have a wife.

Don't have something. Exactly. That's why I don't know where I'm at, bro. Y'all don't know where I'm at. Are you the friend and you were in love with the wife that had a husband? It's not that, it's not that deep.

Oh. I don't know. It's not that deep. But you, you seem like, yo, that should have been me. You know what I'm saying? That type of love.

Past lives, it was the reality of you can love, it's human to love someone. And it's sad if you love two people. Like, it's just, it's, I was like, That was the movie that made me be like, people can't fall in love with two people.

And if I'm that husband, I'm going to be distraught, but at least I'm going to understand. Like, this was her first love. He said, in your dreams, in your sleep, you're speaking in a language I don't even know. And I was like, ah! I said, you're going to try to learn. A shotgun shell to the chest, man. Oh, my God. Pass lives.

It's not that sad. It's more like a realization that you're like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Very X-rated. Do not watch that around your family. Say less. Anora? Yeah.

And like, turn down the volume. You're about it on vacation. That's a good call. Listen on headphones. Yeah, that's a good call. Listen on headphones. I saw an early screening and I remember being like, whoa, wasn't expecting this much. And then she did a variety of actors on actors with Pamela Anderson.

Oh, Mikey Madison. Yeah. And she, and Mike, and I don't, I don't agree with this. But Pamela Anderson was like, did you guys have an end-a-case coordinator? And she's like, no. Me and the director felt like we didn't need it. And I was like, no. You need.

I was like, it's, it's there for you too. It's there to, like, make, it's there to protect you. Uh-huh. But that's how much, like, play was in that movie. I've been seeing a lot of Mikey Madison Gasson, so I guess this is the movie. Again, another star-turning performance, like, Lily Rose Depp. She eats this, like, is it Bronx? I don't know.

Bronx or Brooklyn accent. It's, like, it's crazy that she does it. And she did say she researched, like, she went and hung out with a lot of, like, sex workers and strippers from, like, um. Brooklyn Bronx area to like just learn it better to like make sure she can do it better. How do actors do that? I guess she's not like a known, like she's not like a big. I'm sure you call a couple of people to be like, hey, do you know some?

Oh, I think you just ask, I would lead with like, what's his name, the guy that directed the movie because he's worked on with so many different people. Tangerine was literally shot on like an iPhone 5 and the trans actors here in L.A. on the Strait Valley. So I'm like, I'm sure she probably asked him like, hey, can you help me find people to talk to about this? And that's why she had that special screening that was only for sex workers. They got to see it way before any of us.

And I was like, damn, I should have got in there. Well. I should have got in there. But I'm surprised you haven't seen it yet. Some are saying the movie a year. I love Sean Baker's movies so much. But, like, Anora was so beautiful. It was so sweet.

And it is, like, a movie that I haven't seen a long time where the trailer was a lie. Oh, the trailer I do? Yeah. But in a way that I was like, oh. This was a good lie. This is a good lie. This is what we expected.

Someone told a good lie one day. Interesting. So I shouldn't watch the trailer if I don't want to get lied to. No, you should watch the trailer. I think it adds to the story. Because guess what? Love lies to you, Jomey. Love lies. Love lies.

Bleeding to you. Love lies bleeding. I mean, that's the one. Love Lies Bleeding. I don't know if y'all is all that. I love lies bleeding. That's a good one. It didn't make my list.

But that's a fun one. That's a real fun one. I love that. That one in the substance. I literally saw them both. Shout out to a song with Dan Comer. Shout out Dan at the Los Feilers 3. And both of movies through the series.

do the same thing where they're like kind of weird for like the first 80, 90%, then they're like really weird. The last 10% and it's kind of like, oh. I like that lot. Lovewise Blea made more sense.

That's a major break moment though. Drugged up like losing it at least. Yeah, I mean, but even the substance made sense. Yeah, that's true. Like, whoa, we're really okay, we're really going for it. She's a giant woman. Giant woman.

My last one. taking this back to our roots get a lot of horror going around here oh I've got one more horror God damn it's horror corner it's horror corner I think that says something though because we're talking about a bunch of horror movies

which means you guys don't talk about horror movies that much we don't you guys need to give everybody their due no exactly oh I just know I won't be there tough what do you do on Halloween Halloween? Man here's what I do on Halloween

Pray I go home I turn the lights up Put on some music No, usually the legs are playing that night So I mean, I turn the lights off So nobody like knocks on the door You watch your pooky LaBranja

You're so mean That is You are weird Halloween scrooge Don't hit my line for no candy We get down two brushes and floss out here Everybody's teeth is nasty You know what I'm saying Go to your dentist

Make sure you make sure your stuff is right Because we can't have A is rotting teeth Oh my God B nasty breath You're Johnny Depp's dad In Willy Wonka In the 2006 Willie Wonka

You're that menace And that's how he becomes Willie Wonka Yeah, you're gonna become Willie Wonka now No, his son's gonna be Willie Wonka Oh yeah, that's true

Sorry I just made the crib She's part of my business I don't even like dressing up for real I'd like get close From my house He's afraid of devil stuff

And make I'm not afraid of devil stuff I'm afraid of devil stuff I mean like Ouija boards definitely But like I don't know I don't really

I don't mess with the occult You know what I'm saying That's not where I'm at So if a kid's dressed As Buzz Lightier coming to your door I mean, that's fine. He's like, get out, be gone, demon. He's not going to answer.

I hate you so much. Excuse me, sir. Just making this. And then the kids see you watching the Lakers. Why would they see me? He doesn't give any candy and he just talks about LeBron James. If you're in my mom's neighborhood, they throw rocks at your door. So, think about that next time.

I love that. My mom has a debt at her door for one all the way. That's what they do in their neighborhood. She gave out toothpaste. She gives out toothpaste. We might get like one or two blocks a year, bro. It's not even that serious. I'm going to show him now.

Send me your ad. Send me your money. I'm going to bring the kids with me. Running up in his house. All right. What's your last one? The Dragon Prince. I didn't watch this.

Oh, yeah. The Dragon Prince final season came out on December 19th. And the great thing about this for everybody who's listening, who has not yet tapped in. because I had to wait for this show to come out, right? Like, so the third season came out on November 22nd, 2019, and that was kind of, we were like, okay, cool. Y'all coming back, right?

And they were like, we'll let you know. And they didn't let us know. We get off the rack for three years until November 3rd, 2022. We started getting more episodes. And now this is the final season. It's just been like an amazing journey. if you like Avatar

The last Airbender the actor who plays Saka is in this one as the main character as Callum and it's kind of saying it's Avatar of the Last Airbender

light is kind of that's doing way too much It has seven seasons Yeah That's a long show It's nine episodes each Oh only nine

How long are the episodes? Like they can be like They can range from like 30 to like 22 to like Wait 40 or so That's not that many episodes

That's not a lot of time Yeah, but okay, but I watch watch, years. It takes years to like, wait, so seven seasons. No, no, I'm saying, it started in 2018. Yeah. That's ending in 2024. That's true.

And there was a three year break in between like, Oh, there's a three year break. So sorry, yes, okay. Yeah, so it's like, what? 63 episodes. Yes. Which is only, which is actually two more than Avatar ever dropped.

Correct? Yeah, but, um, yeah, Shout to homie McCall. She's been a writer on the show for the entire time. And I can't wait to see the ending. I'm, like, really locked in on this. I know y'all didn't tap into it.

But this is one of those shows that, like, this is why this pod in particular was covered. Now, we need to cover it because there's, like, you know, there's sonics and there's, you know, arcanes that, like, you know, you have to get covered. But Dragon Pitch is one of those shows, men, that I wish we showed some more love to when it was on, because I had a blast watching the show, man.

The finale is, it's going to wreck me. I already know. I already know. Does it have, so when it did its break, did it leave from one place to another? Did it go for, was it always Netflix? No, not that. No, no, no, it was always Netflix.

You know, show ends you like, cool. Hey, one season four coming out. Hey, well, look, yeah. Yeah, huh? It's like, what do you? Huh? You're not going to answer a question? And they would go to cons.

And you'd be like, cool. Hey, one's six and four coming out. Hey, we'll let you know. Good talk. And it's like, brother, man. Man, it's been two years. Let a little nigga know what's happening. And eventually, like, it came back for season four,

and they were like, bet, give me four more seasons. Season four, five, six, and seven. Now it was hype. And that was cool. And we got a part, or not part one, but we got the sixth season earlier in July this year. And so, yeah, we're getting to finish off the year with the Last Other Dragon Prince. Again, if you listen to you haven't watched it,

You're going to be able to watch everything in one full go. It'll all feel, you know, very much on... It won't feel like six years has passed. It won't feel like six years, which is great. You get to watch 63 episodes. I can do math. Maybe Netflix is just having, like, mishaps with animation like that. To do breaks?

I mean, if you're not arcane, you'll definitely... Well, Arcane broke and they broke. First of all, first. So, and here's the problem, right? Because I can understand why Dragon Prince would take some time because... It's not the most popular show. I mean, I'm part of the fandom. Sure.

There's a whole bunch of fans, right? But it didn't win awards like Arcade. No, but, and that's the thing. I feel like production would likely be quicker. It's probably harder to get that green lit. Exactly. That's what it was. It was like, all right, cool, they made three seasons.

Get some more. It's like, uh, all right, all right, fine. You get three. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, they got away the pocketbooks for a bunch of shit. Versus a show like Arcane, which is just like, yeah, you guys, here's a billion dollars, make it whatever you want. And they were like, again, $2.

$50 million. And I was like, bet, would that'll be three years. Yeah. You know, we would, again, we talked about this on the podcast. It would,

we would like it to go on forever. But I'm not going to wait another three years for another arcane. I'm sorry. Yeah, no, it's like, it's kind of an untenable kind of deal that you strike with a show of that quality for that long and only to just get so little.

And that's why where I'm at with arcane ending this early is like, yeah, I wish we could have gotten a, another season, but we all know that like, all right, y'all got to come back in 2027? Is that real? Like, is that much as to anybody? No. But what I was thinking about with that, so they went on break after the third season, right?

Because, okay, because we were talking about this with Umbrella Academy, too, that Netflix is notorious for canceling the shows after three seasons. So do you think it was going to be canceled possibly, but then they thought the royalties actually would be making them money? It's possible. I feel like animated shows operate different like that with renewals. People always go back to animated shows because the whole like theory was like oh they get rid of them because of the royalty.

They don't have to do payment or royalty payments or whatever. But I'm like that show did they bring it back because they were like people like Joe Mere coming back to it? Maybe. Animated shows with 30 minute episodes

I'm gonna go I'm gonna watch a period. But for whatever reason they took Voltron off Netflix? That's true. Which is a Netflix original. Well. Which by the way I haven't talked about this in any public forum.

But I was an OG Voltron. Yeah, you've been there day one. I was there day one. I halfway understand why people hate the show now. I'm still all the way there. But like you understand the hate.

I get, because I was watching it until I was like, okay, yeah, y'all got to get out of here. Y'all speed running some things. Cool. It's not really what it's supposed to be. But I get it. Other people are like, yo, this is ass.

Like, like they kind of like Game of Thrones. but like way worse. You think about how people feel about season. They sped up that, yeah. No, no, no. But think about how people feel about season eight of Game of Thrones and multiply at times a thousand for the last like season and a half of Voltron. I promise you go into any forum, going to any conversation with people who are entrenched

in that thing, they will tell you that like Satan himself made the last season of Voltron. It was sad back. I'm going to start with the final season. And then I'm going to work my way back. Please don't because it's really good. It's like really interesting. But like, yeah, I mean, we talked, again, we had this on the animation podcast. How these, these companies treat animation is so, it's so sad. It's terrible. It makes me nervous with Netflix especially. Like, Netflix always makes me nervous because they do give like Voltron eight seasons, but then it's like,

they kind of treat it poorly. And they don't care how it ends out. They don't like marketing like that. Like, these shows have enormous fan bases. They're just like, cool. We're going to throw that up for you. y'all and if y'all watch it good if y'all don't it's cool yeah who cares blah blah blah we're going home like these things deserve way way better and they're like i they're like i've been on the Netflix uh homepage because you know every thursday i got to do don to don and i got to blue box that's like the the that's the double that's hitting Thursday nights right before i go to or before I tuck into my my nice little bed I'm like yo got to watch don to dawn to dawn on Thursdays and I got to

watch, uh, I want to go, I want to go, Joey, what were you watching? You're on mute anyway. What was the last thing on? Oh, yeah, the trailers are going to play if you click on it. Yeah, yeah. But like they got some interesting stuff on Netflix for now, like Gentry True or Chow, sorry, they got Gentry Chow is like a show that keeps popping up. I watched Star Trek Prodigy this year on Netflix, right? They have, we talk about Blue Eye Samurai. Oh, yeah. They have stuff going on, but. it's just too far away and too inconsistent for Netflix for me. Yeah. For me to trust them with this stuff.

I mean, I wish I could. I would really love to, but I just, I just can't hold it in my heart. I just can't do it. I just can't do it. They're too busy pushing Mary on everybody. Got I watched The El Tomato Me yet? No. No.

I did watch Carry On, and that's actually a really good movie. I heard. Carry on. It's really fun. It's very fun. Taryn, Erickerton's and Jason Bayvins and Carriott. Very fun. Okay.

Interesting. It's very, I actually, I was surprised. Oh man, D. Norris is in it too. Yeah, it's great. I was pleasantly surprised. And then if you guys don't even want mine, Eric was like raving about it before I was. And I'm like, I genuinely like a lot of things.

Eric doesn't. So if you take his, his penny for a thought, like that one's the one. All right. Number two, though, it ends with us. So I don't know if I trust Netflix's algorithm. Okay. Barbie's number six.

Hey, wow. It's still moving weight. Still moving, moving units. All right, my final one. back off horror corner Abigail came on my birthday month I love Abigail

is fun and Jomey I think out of all of these you will have fun Jomey you would love Abigail's right up your appell my fault my fault no this is on me because you said Abigail and I thought it was Megan No you don't like Megan I haven't seen that one it's so fun

Oh Megan's so fun I literally was like oh Come on it's the one with the little A hundred dolls No, it's a haunted ballerina. Yeah. Yeah, I was wrong. No, this is a vampire ballerina. Do a double feature night and do

Abigail and Abigail. What the hell is Abigail about? Abigail is about. Tell them. These thieves, they do a job and they get double crossed. Oh, is this the one with Dan Stevens? Yes.

And he's like, that's a fucking onions. Those are fucking onions. You should watch that shit. Because let me tell you what, this movie is fucking funny. It is like actually a really really good, like, thriller, question mark?

Like, there's a good cat and mouse dynamic with, like, the team of thieves that are stuck in a mansion with a vampire ballerina and who is forced to feed on these thieves. And it basically turns out into a, like, cat and mouse, like, and then there were two, and then there were one type of survival horror

movie, and it's so fucking fun. And a fool of... The only person I didn't recognize was the person that played the little girl. Yeah, and who is great? Jean-Carlop's Esposito's in it. Oh, Catherine Newton's in here. Catherine Newton's in it. Melissa Nguerner.

Yeah. Angus Clow is in it. Angus Cloud was very fun in that role. He is. He is fun. I could not have been more surprised by Abigail because I love it when I come in knowing nothing. And that's really the kind of the gem. That's why I love horror movies so much because you rarely hear that much buzz even about the good ones.

You know, it's funny, I hate going in not knowing, because I went in not knowing with don't blink or blink twice. Oh, right. And I said, I wish I would have known. I wish I would have known about that. I said, I was so, I couldn't even, I was like, I, I'm so sad. I'm so sad. I wish I was, I was, me and my friend went inside and were like, ooh, there's a warning before it. Someone's probably just going to get stabbed.

And then I was like, and I watched it and I went, I don't ever want to live on this planet ever again. Do you look at Shannington's the same way? Yeah, because I thought of him as that character anyways. Oh, wow. I'm joking. I'm joking. I should have been seen that one. I don't know why I haven't seen that one yet. That one was...

It's rough. It's rough. Really? But Zoe Kravitz, as a director for that movie, good on her. Good on her. I mean, they got Naomi Acky in there. Yeah. They got, um, what's her?

The home girl from, uh, from, um, what's it called? Oh, Alia Shaka? Yeah, she's also in there. But the home girl from... what's it called, the movie, the hitman. Oh, yeah, that is her. That is her. Andor.

Yeah. Right. I know more than men than I know of women, unfortunately. Yeah. I was like, I thought a movie has some. It's so, it's great. It's perfect. I think it's a great movie, a great premise.

It makes sense. It's just so many, like, shocking moments that I was like, oh, the trigger warning makes sense now. Yeah, no. And I was not ready. It's a tough thing. It's a tough thing. They had a trigger warning in a movie.

It was just like body horror. excessive gore. And so I was like, oh yeah, it's probably just that. And then when I saw it, that's not that. That's not that. No one should see it. But no, yeah, you need to see Blink Twice. And Abigail, I knew I was going to like Abigail as soon as I saw that trailer. Christian Slater, Simon Rex. Stop talking about the cast because you need to see it. What do I see? Those boys will make sense. This trailer played a thousand times. I saw it before challengers. I saw it before, like every movie I saw this summer was this movie was in front of When you see the movie, you understand why they casted those men.

It's like the men being casted are important in the movie. I wish I could talk about it because someone's going to be watching. Yeah, no, no, there's a lot that happens in that that we really can't talk about or that I don't want to spoil it. Don't want to spoil it. But Abigail, I saw that trailer and I was like, I know I'm going to eat this up. I know I'm going to love this. Just like I did with Megan. I was like, I know I'm going to love this shit and I loved it.

Abigail was so fun. It was so fun. I love that movie. It's a blast. Like, I truly think that like there are some horror films that you really can't deny only for the sake of how fun they like treat their premise and treat like the things that like what makes like vampires fun like oh are we not gonna like do the sunlight thing

does the garlic shit work and that's why the joke like those are fucking onions comes like it's a and that's not even the funniest thing that Dan Stevens says in that movie yeah Dan Stevens is very fun in that movie is really really good is so fun in that movie I was not prepared I like Dan Stevens but I was like I was not prepared to love him in the Dan Stevens, from, Dan Stevens from Legion. From Legion.

I even know he was English until he spoke one time. Some of us are, I was clearly not a Downabby head. I was like some of us are Downabby heads. Bro, I have loved him since the beginning. I'm not like happy. I'm not locked in. In that Christmas special where he could start to use his legs again,

I was a puddle of tears. I, oh my God, Dan, Steve. I can't even get into Downabber right now. Downabee was so good and it jumped so many sharks. Down Navi is my favorite white show Are they been in another movie? No I feel like they're not

But they also I wouldn't be surprised If they do in like Five years Just because they can Maybe I mean Maggie Smith is gone So rest in peace

Oh yeah that's true I was so obsessed with Down Abbey They were having a competition That they were like If you can write us an essay On how much you love Downabby And why it resonates in you

You can stay at the mansion For two nights I submitted I did not win Damn It's probably because I'm American To be fair Because they were like

Resonates with you I was like none of it Not a single bit None of this is real to me. They're making a third Downton Abbey film that will be released in September 12, 2025. Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Coming to mid-edition, 2025. All right, just put the brakes on. Bro, you watch the first season of Downton Abbey. Oh, my God. What can we do to Jomey if he watches the first season of down there?

I don't know. I'll get you a date with Dan Stevens. There you go. Okay. We can talk about Legion. Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, it's, it's, It could be just like a hangout. You can be a little hang out.

A fun hang. Maybe play some rivals. If I could get out of here, because I was on the Netflix page looking at all the stuff. You guys, there's a show in like, I don't want to be hyperbolic. Not on this podcast. Well, quite literally, talk about Arcane. We talk about actual, legitimate, excellent animation shows. Pantheon.

Pantheon. It's one of the greatest television animation chief. I've ever seen my entire life. This is on Netflix? Yes. The first season is on Netflix. And here's the problem, right? The show dropped on AMC Plus,

like ways, like a long time ago, right? They made season two. Season two was ready to get dropped. Everybody was excited to watch it. The AMC said, actually, y'all got it. We're not really going to drop it. It's never coming out. Goodbye.

Lock it, close, went home. Right. Except they did bring it back in New Zealand and Australia. You can. Rights are crazy. Get that VPN. You can go now to Netflix, watch season one of Pantheon, right? Again, legitimately incredible achievement.

Because, again, no IP, nothing. This just rests on the morals of good television. when I tell you it is excellent television it is by far one of the greatest things of ever see I am not lying to you I've said this multiple times across the years on Twitter Pantheon is excellent

the mystery the characters the emotions the story all of it works it does this like I don't want to again it's not succession I'm not going to say succession

I'm not that'd be insane but it does the thing where succession is talking about all this jargon and stuff is throwing at you, and yet you still understand it because the story makes so much sense. You're not, like, bogged down by all the technical stuff that's throwing at you. Yeah.

Okay. Go on Netflix. You can watch season one right now, and I am not saying to do this. This is not an advocacy for piracy. You can't find season two online somewhere. No. I'm not going to tell you where.

Jomey sent me. I'm not going to say that it's there, but I'm just saying. It may or may not be there. It may or may not be there, but it did get released somewhere. And it is, I haven't watched it yet. Me, I'm being completely honest.

I haven't watched yet because I'm frankly so scared because that season is a perfect season television. And I made my piece that I'll never see season two. Now that's there, I'm like, ah, do I dip my toes in? Do I go back to the well of greatness? I get that. Am I scared? Like, if I get sold now on the second season,

now I look like an idiot. I look like a fool. I mean, I think people will still be like the first season Joe Byshead was incredible, and that's the one I watched. The second one I did on my own accord, and it was bad. But no. Guys, if you're under the side of my voice, go watch Pantheon season one on Netflix right now. And then, hey, if you want to go find this between you and your God,

I'm not going to say, I'm not going to tell you to do it, you know what I'm saying? You are my God. We are on the one. And it's an awesome God. And it's an awesome God. He raged from heaven on earth. There would be. And power and love our God is an awesome God.

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