The Ringer-Verse - Top ‘Game of Thrones' Crash-Outs | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: January 15, 2026

The Boys are back, and they’re here to give you the best primer for 'A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms': the best ‘Game of Thrones’ crash-outs. But before they get to that, they give you a bit of N...erd News, with Sebastian Stan joining ‘The Batman Part II.’ (0:00) Intro (16:58) Nerd News (37:23) ‘Game of Thrones’ crash-outs (1:28:21) Outro Hosts: Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Producers: Aleya Zenieris and Jade Whaley Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:46 But before we do this, I got to talk about a couple of things. Okay. Wait, wait, wait. I have a question. Why the fuck were you taking a shower this morning? That's the first thing. I took a shower.
Starting point is 00:02:53 I took a shower at the office. Why? Because I had to go to the gym. Okay. All right. I had to go to the gym. I'm on the creatine now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:02 So I had, so I'm, my, my workouts are getting longer and more intense. Right. So I was at as she said. And boom, boom, boom, boom, be-bing. And so I decided, you know what I'm going to do? We have these bathrooms at the office. That have showers. And these.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And these bathrooms have showers. Terrible showers. I never took a shower in there before. I have. You see you? So why are you asking me? Why I took the shower? It's like 10 a.m.
Starting point is 00:03:26 They're y'all at me. You can't use the bathroom? They're show. I'm like, did he shit on himself? I'm like, let's go. No, just don't walk in. So I have to, I took the shower. Now, when you took it before.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Did you bring her own soap? I brought my own soap. Oh. I brought my own soap. A towel the whole thing? I brought the whole nine. Wow. When you took a shower here,
Starting point is 00:03:46 How was the water pressure? Water pressure was terrible and also cold. It was cold. Cold as shit. So it'll never happen again. I mean, the shower is an act of desperation anyway. No, it's a timing thing.
Starting point is 00:03:57 See, y'all, but I've been on talk shows before, right? And when you go into these talk shows and stuff like this, sometimes they have showers inside in the dressing rooms. So I've taken a shower in a place like that that has a shower before. I expected us to have top-knocked facilities. We don't. It's a fact. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And the parking garage never work. fucking showers not working showers. We barely get water bottles. Going here in the floor. They have breakfast for everyone. You get here 9-on-1, breakfast's gone. I see niggas like, let me tell you something. Steve's about to have a bad podcast.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Because on Brenton-Ref's a good. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Steve's about to have a bad podcast. Number one, Steve is one of those people that goes back for seconds for the office food. I'm quite greedy. Which is terrible, right? Come on, bro.
Starting point is 00:04:44 So we're going to talk about two things. that happened with Steve this last Saturday before we get on to the rest of the podcast. I'm happy here. The one thing is a small thing. So it's a small thing that set us up. Wait, we're going to go small, bigger, and then biggest. I want to fill in things that I think you were omitting. Brother, you know I love you?
Starting point is 00:05:05 You got to sit this one. I was not here. You got to sit this one after. Steve relax. Okay. First thing is a very small thing. Steve did the white boy food thing, which I hate. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I got some food. I got wings and I got fries I put my fries down there and Steve went ooh and he grabbed the fries First of all Okay Steve Steve Steve stop
Starting point is 00:05:25 Steve Steve Steve crazy Steve crazy I almost got in a fight at a hooters one time With a friend of my homie Who went Like I got my wings
Starting point is 00:05:37 It was a lot of wings Don't get me wrong And he went Ooh shit I was like Ooh get your ass out of my fucking food You gotta ask at least All right
Starting point is 00:05:45 He was like So you mean tell me I can't have one of the wings. I'm like, not now because you're going to do it without asking. And that makes me play. You need to ask? He just took the fly. And this is a bad? And all I did was I just, I looked at a league. I was like, what I'm saying? White.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Okay. And this is after everything. This is after. Okay. The rest of it, Jomi and I will tell in tandem. So it starts last week. The Bears are playing the Packers in the postseason. Steve, big, huge Chicago guy,
Starting point is 00:06:14 Bears fan. He's like, yo, do you want to comes to house, watch the game. I'm like, I'm down, man. What's up? We're family. Let's all hang. It's what we do. Friday, he hits the group checks.
Starting point is 00:06:24 He's like, actually, we're going to all seasons brewing to watch the game. Yeah. Do y'all want to come through? Stop. I can read the text. Don't do that. After response from nobody but Jomi, after response from nobody but Jomey saying, do you want to come over to the house?
Starting point is 00:06:44 Jomey says, yes, I'm down. Hey, quick change. your plans since nobody fucking else answered. Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve. Steve. Steve. Friday at 1249, yo, I'm thinking to go to all-season brood and watch the Bears backers and fial it down.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Game is that five. I'm like, cool, that's the move, then that's the move. Let's go. Additionally, I'm like, oh, what's the fellas? I'm going to invite Kai. Kai. Kai. Kai not doing nothing on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:07:09 You'll come through. I hate Kai. I can't set you down. I hate the group text. Yo, Kai's coming too. That's it. Boom. I get there a little later.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I didn't say later on, I'm going to come through as well. Now, I don't really text it to the group chat, but I'm coming through. Boom. So we're all, me, Kalika, Kai, Jomi, we go to all season's brewery to watch the Bears game with Steve and Lauren. Right. And whoever else. Okay, go ahead. So I get there a little bit after Kai because I live a little farther away.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And I pull up and I see it's Steve, his partner, Kai, and a bunch of these homest. So I'm thinking, oh, Steve, like, just put the call out. We all going to be all seasons. We're going to watch this game together. That makes a lot of sense. Cool, no problem. And then, like, two minutes into it, Lauren's like, oh, yeah, don't worry. We got, we're going to sit right here.
Starting point is 00:08:01 We got these tables. It's so-and-so's birthday. I was like, oh, it's a birthday? It's a birthday function? It was a birthday function for the partner of one of Steve's friends that Steve's, Steve made it seem like we were going to all seasons to watch the Bears game. But what we were really doing was coming to all seasons as part of a birthday function for someone we've never met. Someone we've never met and we do not know now.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Wait, so the Nies goes pulled up to a birthday party that they don't know. That we were not invited. This is not. Okay. So, so, now we'll say, Emily is very lovely. Emily. Emily is a lovely people. Emily, Emily, Emily and Cole, a lovely people.
Starting point is 00:08:49 This is a coinciding. This is nothing to say we are not invited to, right? So this is nothing to say about Emily and their partner. Lovely people. So amazing people, amazing people. So the story gets thicker. First of all, shout out to the people at all seasons. I'll never go back.
Starting point is 00:09:09 It's really cry. I'll never go back to all seasons. It's bad. All season sucks, bro. It's got the ones. Worst food you could ever possibly eat is like, we went there, different tables, speaking of the Game of Thrones, it was legitimately like Westeros.
Starting point is 00:09:24 It was like five birthday parties going on with different banners up all around the fucking place. And they vicious, they rude as far. I'm never go back to all seasons. All seasons can have it. If you like it, if you're your neighborhood, everybody knows your name, ball out. I'll never go back at hell. Now, so.
Starting point is 00:09:42 This is the worst part. So we are at this table, and it's like a longer table, right? And you have really what happens is the birthday party people are coalescing over here. These people know each other. They're friends, okay? Not the black people. The black people. Me, Jomi, Kai, Kalika.
Starting point is 00:10:04 We are on the other side of the table. There is a girl that comes over to us and sits. down. And Jomey? She goes, she's a little cursory look. She's like, look around and look at us. Do y'all, do y'all know to celebrate? You know, y'all know who this person is? I'm dead ass. You're not, y'all are fucking me right now. I promise she's
Starting point is 00:10:28 swear to me. I'm dead ass. I promise you swear to God. I'm dead. Looks at us and goes, do you guys know? And we go, yeah, yeah, yeah, we know. We go, we know. I don't know. Emily. The first thing I do is I look at Jomi and I go. I step in here. I'm not going in any way make a big deal.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I'm like, and then Jomi looks at me and Jomi goes, tough. Jomey looks at me. Kai, who has the number one temperament of almost anyone I know, Kai goes, nah. And we all looking around like,
Starting point is 00:11:10 not that being like, hey, the color table is are over there. You know, we all looking around like, this isn't really actually happening. The worst thing that she did though is when I say this, yes, I know Emily and we know the other person that's birthday, I name both of them
Starting point is 00:11:24 by name. And then this girl's like, there's not an Emily here. And I'm like, no, there is. Then she started, and then it starts to, we start to kind of, I don't know, and after that she kind of started to like retreat a little bit. Yeah, after he was like, no, no, Emily is cool.
Starting point is 00:11:42 because I mean, I said the same thing that you said. Yeah. But when I said it, she was like like, uh, well, he came in. It was like, no, no, no. Day with me, it was cool. And I was like, I had a, uh, this whole thing. I'm, she's actually, what, this is what we doing. We're not trying to ruin nobody birthday.
Starting point is 00:11:59 So, I'm serious. So we land back. I'd already got these wings. These wings are fucking terrible. Steve took one of my fries. I'm just getting fucked over. And I'm looking around And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:12:14 yo man, do I want to tell this stranger to eat a dick like right in front of all of this? Do I want to be a dick about this? And I'm like, you know what? No, let's just take it back to 2005. Let's just take it back to 2005
Starting point is 00:12:27 and laugh at long. But I remember when that game was over and when zero's on that clock, what the band did? Boom. Out of there. Gone. Boom.
Starting point is 00:12:35 The game ended up being like such a good football game. It's similar. The fourth quarter kind of took over. Yeah. But, I mean, it's all Maga Bruin, though, over there. All Maga Brewery. This is terrible. And, like, and Steve?
Starting point is 00:12:50 I had words with Emily and Cole about that. Well, look, the person that you should have blamed is the man in the mirror. Because you invited us to this birthday party. We would have been there. It's not our birthday party. The last time this happened in L.A. to me, my man, Will, shout out to Will Jellin. I've told this story before. My man, Will invited us.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Will said he was going to a party. Will wasn't invited to the party Okay Will knew someone that was going to the party We heard the yeah Remember I told this story
Starting point is 00:13:21 Then we go there to the party They make us leave We fought We fought the people So as someone who was not there I want to give Like I'm hearing your side of the story Now Steve it's not
Starting point is 00:13:34 Seeming great because A Especially because you have black friends You should know this They thought they were going to your house, they show up at a white person's birthday party, this is what we always know was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I'm going to give you a chance to defend yourself. Okay. I want you to think about the way fucking Christy Knoem sounds. I know. Standing up going to make a fucking fool on. When everybody knows what the fuck happened. I'm going to do what Christy Knoem doesn't do and take some accountability first.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Okay. I should have let you guys know that this was like in tandem with somebody else's birthday party that we were invited to. I had since let both Emily. and the person's whose birthday it is, know that, like, hey, I might be bringing the Midnight Boys in,
Starting point is 00:14:14 a couple of people from work as well. Is that cool? They all said that that's fine. Again, didn't let you guys know about that, my bad. All right? Okay. Nobody was not unwelcome here, all right? That's very, I want to make that very clear.
Starting point is 00:14:28 The change in venue was merely because, A, I wanted to get out of the house. Nobody else but Jomey responded to the group chat. Wait, why couldn't Joe, wait, is Jomey not enough to watch the best game? I'm not saying that it's not, but you're malleable. You say, like, hey, it's my house. It's going to be another bar. Are you cool with that?
Starting point is 00:14:45 I said, I'm thinking about doing it. Nobody else responds? I'd go anyway because nobody would show up. That's the point, right? I don't know, big dog. What do you mean you don't know? Because, again, the whole impetus of the entire thing is you were like, yo, I'm thinking about going to all season brewing,
Starting point is 00:15:03 not because it's your friend's birthday, but because you wanted to get out the house. That's what we all thought, I remember at the text. I could have been clear about. that but I did not make that about y'all that wasn't about that all right it is as far as the fries are concerned I want to move to the fries there's nothing you kiss the tail I know I know and I know that's nothing you just take it on the chip I love I put the fries over racism it's it's it's excuse racism but I can't see the fries I will I draw the line there I mean mainly the fry thing is a bad precedent setting
Starting point is 00:15:40 my behalf where like Van just gets a bunch of food and then he usually like nine times out of town and be like hey take whatever you guys at my house at your house. But you why didn't you just ask and be like, hey oh, can I get I know, that's me. That's me. That's me. I get too eager. Have a fry.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I jump on, yeah, I jump on the fries. You colonize the fries. I do. I do. I will say I'm a call a frieser. Do they not teach, you know, to ask? They do. I don't know if they do, bro. I let my parents down. There was another time
Starting point is 00:16:08 where this almost happened. My man, shout out to my man Tommy Talley. I have a bag of fucking Doritos and Tommy puts his hand in the do. No. No, I said to Tommy, I said, bitch, those are yours
Starting point is 00:16:22 and I get to the Doritos on. What's wrong? Reaching in the bag? He reached in the bag. Wasn't a small bag? That's not. It wasn't a small bag. And Tommy,
Starting point is 00:16:30 I'm not going to talk about just, no. It's wrong. Okay. Why can you even do a little like, hey, yokey? Like, I've dumped a little in my hands.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Can I just tell you something? This is something that beyond that one time at Hooters, which I think was somebody trying my manhood, you just don't run into this with Black. What happened at Hoos? We talked about the Hoosers Win before. No, because people, I will say in a black community, you do that, a motherfucker by swing on.
Starting point is 00:16:52 You're like, hey, yo. Get off my fucking point. What's my shit? Okay, what about the racism? That's, there's no excuse for that. That's bad. I talked to that girl. I talked to Emily.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I was like, who is this girl? What are you doing? What is she about? And she's like, friend of so-and-so asshole when she's drunk. I'm like, keep her up. He has to say, no, I hate when they use the excuse. No, I'm not saying that's the excuse. I'm like, keep her away from that side of the table. And you racist when you
Starting point is 00:17:16 drunk, you racist when you're sober. The crazy thing is when she sat down, I think Jomi was feeling something. It was calm down. When she looked over to talk, when she looked over to talk, I think Jome was about to go down. That's not. That's not what happened at all. Let's calm down. Let's not do that. Hey, it was not great.
Starting point is 00:17:33 They got for the game, though. The game was great. The game was fantastic. And we ended up meeting two other, we had me, two other white. Oh yeah, fans of the, fans of the podcast. Who are these guys? I can't remember their names, but they had come up, they came up to us also part of the birthday that were
Starting point is 00:17:48 fans of ours. They were having fun with them. We exchanged whites, because that one girl had pissed us all. Yeah, right. Coming over here playing with a seat. Jersey Swap with the whites. All season. Then I went up, and then I went up to try to close my tab out. I'm at the bar. And I'm like, hey, and this woman
Starting point is 00:18:07 walks up and she goes, she goes, hi. And he looks at there, he goes, well, you have. And I'm like, you know what, man. It's been a tough day. You all right. I will never plan anything that we do ever again. I promise you that. Down with all seasons. I will never plan anything we do. All right. Thank you for indulging this Chuck Neranew. This episode is brought to you by Spectrum Business. Fast, reliable internet means everything for your business. And even this podcast, that's why I trust Spectrum Business. They keep companies of all sizes connected with internet, advanced Wi-Fi, phone, TV, mobile services, plus 24-7 U.S.-based support.
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Starting point is 00:20:11 Tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms, or need a vaccine. Explore what's possible. Ask your doctor about Tramphia today. Call 1-800-526-7736 to learn more or visit Trimfairadio.com. All right, guys, we got some exciting news this week. First, we're going to start off with the most recent casting rumor, but it seems kind of true. Sebastian Stan is joining the Batman 2, according to the Hollywood Reporter, and it's rumored that Stan will be playing Harvey Dent, aka Two Face.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Van, I'm going to start with you. Not only what do you think of Sebastian Stan casting, do you think that this is like, I don't know, to me, Sebastian Stan is what arguably one of the best actors of his age working right now? How old is he again? He's like 40, 41, something like that. I would say in the MCU right now he's probably like what top three, top
Starting point is 00:21:09 five in terms of just like not only critical claim, box office, what do you think this means for the Batman too? Do you think this is a coup for Reeves and everyone working on it? How do you feel? So first of all, if this is in the Hollywood reporter, this has happened and that's the first thing. I think it's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Number one, he's 43. He is built to play Harvey Dent. It depends on the story in terms of what iteration of Harvey Dent that we're getting, if it's a one two-faced thing, if they're playing for another film. I can't imagine that they would be that much. I'm not saying he's going to be two-faced in the movie,
Starting point is 00:21:45 but I'm saying this film took so long to come out. I wonder what the future plans for this Batman saga is. I'm not sure about that. As far as a Marvel DC thing, I don't know. I don't know that that matters too much to me. I think the thing that matters more is that, Matt Reeves, the Batman universe, continues to cast actors who have a high artistic barometer in big roles.
Starting point is 00:22:14 They continue to go with people who seem like they take this work to actually tell stories and transforming the characters. If you're talking about Colin Farrell or Robert Pattinson or any of these people. And we didn't talk about it, but I believe it was also rumored and it seems pretty much fast. that Scarlett Johansson was also casting it, and people are suspecting that she's going to play Gilda, Harvey Dent's wife. Right. Now, so what I will say about this before turning it over is,
Starting point is 00:22:46 it doesn't surprise me to see a lot of actors who have played superheroes before sign up for more superhero comic book fair. Yeah. Because I do think something's happening in Hollywood to where there are some people who are going to reject that as being a step in their career. And it might be easier to harvest people who've already been in that world, but are serious well-respected actors, then it might be to get like Timothy Shalame or someone
Starting point is 00:23:22 like that to actually take up a role that is a superhero role. So the other thing I want to talk to you all about is the big rumor, I believe this for a while, is that Matt Reeves was going to try to adapt court of vows. But with knowing that Harvey Dent is in this, it seems like it's rumored that Gilda Dent is this, is in this? Do you think that this potentially
Starting point is 00:23:45 is a marriage between the classic Jeff Loeb comic, The Long Halloween and Court of Owls? Well, it seemed like they were hinting towards, I know, did y'all, in the first movie, the Long Halloween, right? It seemed like they were trying to kind of prime me for that. What do y'all think?
Starting point is 00:23:58 I mean, first of all, on the Sebastian Stan thing, I think we all, after Thunderbolts were like, Why isn't this guy doing, like, why didn't they build, like, a couple movies around this guy? Yeah. Because when he showed up in Thunderbolts, it was everything. He, like, brought the movie. He brought it, he made it alive, right? And then in Falcon Winter Soldier, it means a longer conversation about that particular thing, but I think maybe we were too harsh on it in the moment.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I think the finale soured, at least for me. Yeah. But I think what he can do in that role is amazing. So seeing him as Harvey Dent is great. I just think that, like, it's just really funny. If I had four nickels for every time, Harvey Dent showed up in the sequel to a Batman movie or like a Batman or Jason movie,
Starting point is 00:24:44 I'd have four nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's crazy that's happened four times, right? Batman Returns, Dark Night and Joker 2, Joker Falle Adieu, what's his name from Harry Loutley from... Yeah, right, right, right. Plays him, and now this. And so it's really interesting how, like, Batman gets successful
Starting point is 00:25:04 and like boom put two face in that thing you know what I mean but Sebastian's Tankin' Act I'm all for it I want to see to your point of like
Starting point is 00:25:13 if they're doing the long Halloween quarter of owls I was hoping they save quarter of owls for like the for the third movie but
Starting point is 00:25:19 I mean and again I don't know if I don't know if Matt Reeves like the clock on his universe might be run around
Starting point is 00:25:27 so he might be just like forget it if I'm being honest I was like hey yo if I don't do Court of Owls. James Gunn and Co. are definitely doing it. But I also think
Starting point is 00:25:36 what's interesting, if you think about the last the first Reeves Batman movie is that movie is so much about the corruption of the city, especially with the Penguin series. And now I'm thinking like, oh, the Court of Owls and the Long Halloween are both two stories that are really delving
Starting point is 00:25:52 into the history of Gotham as a city. And I'm just like, oh, that could be interesting. And I think the other problem with maybe the Court of Owls comic book is spoiler alert the big reveal is like what you're going to use owl man as your main fucking villain
Starting point is 00:26:08 I think Matt Reeves might be like hey yo the owls as like jobbers that Batman can fight is cool that motherfucker fight in Owlman is a little bit harder I mean he said that he's like he doesn't want like the fantastical elements of Batman the racial goal he's not he's not going in that direction
Starting point is 00:26:26 he wasn't more in the war but also like I trust somebody like Reeves to make that interesting and compelling Yeah. I don't think that like, because the idea of Razel Ghul, like happening in saying a Batman begins, seems fantastical and out there. But then Liam Neeson and Nolan and co make a home run. And that's a pretty great adaptation of that. As far as when it comes to what kind of story that this is right for adapting, I think you're right. Reeves is more interested, especially when it comes to just the first Batman movie that we got. He is interested in what makes Gotham a character in a Batman story. The story of this city, the story of the people that kind of like let this city fall from grace, be it either the people that are closest to Wayne or the people that are right outside that circle, that sphere of influence that Wayne, the entrepreneur and the businessman seems to ignore while he's being Batman.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I think it's great. I'm really, really excited that Sebastian Stan can do it. He's probably the most interesting of the Marvel alumni to do something post-MCU. Like, say what you will about that. that Trump biopic, but he went full bore with it, and he was amazing in it. He was being the carnival.
Starting point is 00:27:40 I think I've said it before. If they went the Bucky S. Cap route, I do think we would be having a different conversation about the MCU. Because you hate black people. I mean, if we want to, and I can put on my cultural coofy, I will say,
Starting point is 00:27:59 the next nerd news we have to talk about is the Wakanda trailer. And I'm just like, damn, all the white superheroes can get their own teaser trailer. But the Wakandians and Namor and Fantastic Four, got to share that shit. So, real quick before we get to that, race, baiting. That's my job.
Starting point is 00:28:17 No. I'm saying, like, that should be easy. Real quick before we get to that, I'll say this about Sebastian Stan and about this Batman world overall. Number one, Sebastian Stan, to me, had the right strategy on his career in terms of being,
Starting point is 00:28:31 a comic book actor. What he did was rather than in his mind have the belief that he was a movie star because he was Bucky, he used Bucky, in my opinion, to appeal to wide audiences. And then on the other side of that, he took chances. Yeah. All the movies were chances. He didn't come back, at least from what I can remember, I'll look at his IMDB with the weird romantic comedy that's trying to bring the audience over.
Starting point is 00:29:00 And now he did the movie where the girl, where he was like the cannibal. Yeah. Was a fresh. Fresh was great. So he did that. He did smaller films. He did films that allowed him to flex his creative muscle, right?
Starting point is 00:29:12 I think that there were some actors that were involved in the MCU that thought that they were movie stars because they were big comic book characters. Yeah. And when they went out and tried to flex that movie stardom, they realized that it did not translate at all. I mean, to people coming out. out to see you because you were one of these guys.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Chris Evans, I think, is the perfect example of it. Or even Tom Holland. Tom Holland. I was thinking about when Knives Out came out, I think we were just like, oh, not only is Chris Evans like, greatest Captain America. Look at this. He's like one of the best parts of this movie. And I think he miscalculated what makes him charming.
Starting point is 00:29:53 And I think Chris Hemsworth had a similar type. And if I'm going to be honest to them, I think a lot of this was Hollywood pushing them into that, like, your R. next movie stars. But also I start to wonder, I'm just like, Sebastian Stan just has taste. And I think that's something that you really can't teach. Where it's like, to your point, I think he was just
Starting point is 00:30:10 like, I don't need to be in the biggest movies in the world. I could be Harvey Dent. And that's going to get, like, that's going to give me all the money and all the cash A. So I can go be in an 824 neon movie. But you want to be an important movies. And by the way, yeah. Like, when you saw him pop up in the Martian, that role in the Martian is not like
Starting point is 00:30:27 a gigantic role. But when you look at that little crew, you see Jessica Chastain and Michael Pena. You see actors that are in an important movie part of an ensemble that matters.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Jome, you were gonna say? No, I was gonna say, like, to your point, like Chris Evans, uh, I love his portrayal nights out. The thing you get like red one, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:48 And then you get, um... What's the Antibaldi Armas? Ghosted? Yeah, that was so bad. I like ghosts. Sebastian stands in that movie. Yeah, but him and, um, what's his name?
Starting point is 00:30:58 Um, Falcon, they're in it as a cat. It's a little, it's a little MCU bait. Is this gray man of forgiveness? Are you going to forgive the gray man? Here's what I'm going to say about the gray man. If the gray man has no defendants, that I am dead. Okay? I'm telling you guys, when you look at these films, though, fresh, sharper,
Starting point is 00:31:14 Sebastian, yeah. When you look at these films, fresh, sharper, different man, the apprentice. He's picking good scripts. These are movies that also have a very direct, like, artistic thrust. Yeah. I'll say this about the Batman world before we move on. I've come to appreciate Matt Rees' The Batman more than I did when it first came out.
Starting point is 00:31:36 But I will say this. I'm not the type of person that really enjoys a Batman movie where it seems like anybody could be Batman. Like, where it seems like Batman doesn't have any real special skills. Like, Batman, not the baddest motherfucker in the world. Like, Batman can't really fight like talking about it. Where Batman doesn't do anything amazing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:59 The last movie, there was stuff that happened that was cool. But in a Batman movie, Batman has to be a superhero. You didn't like the part where he jumped off the building paraglided and then fell into a bus and still lift. That was an amazing enough for you. To me, like even in Nolan's Batman, which is very grounded, you got some real deal. How did he do that type shit? So you don't think it's enough for Reeves to leave? into Batman as the greatest detective in the world.
Starting point is 00:32:32 You're like, he needs to be the greatest superhero. He needs to disappear. He wants to a guy. Hits to smoke, disappear, show up on a roof. Because this man is, like, Matt Reeves' Batman, if we're being honest, is just like a skinny dude who's like a great detective and a kind of art. Like, I saw the scene again of when, like,
Starting point is 00:32:51 one of the cops touches him and it's so goofy. He's like, get off. And I'm like, what the fuck are we doing? You don't like regular man? I like, I, I, I, I'll talk. thought the first movie was compelling. It's compelling a lot because of Ritler. Rittler is just the character of Ritler.
Starting point is 00:33:07 The movie has this feel to it. That I'm not going to lie. It takes an expert director to create. And for a film that's that long to kind of have that type of pace and for the scenes to be that sticky, that matters. But at some point, I want to see Batman do amazing superheroes. You got to do a backflip. Come on.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Like, kick. He's got to. And then disappeared. You know what I mean? He's got to be like whatever. You know, anyway. All right. Next up, we have the, I guess, not the final.
Starting point is 00:33:39 There's rumors that there might be a Dr. Dune teaser. But the fourth Domsday teaser dropped recently, featuring the Wakandans, the Fantastic Four in Namor. And on Instagram, the Russo brothers wrote, quote, what you've been watching for the last four weeks are not teasers or trailers. They are stories. They are clues. Pay attention.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Hashtag Dumesday has begun. I'll just start off with this. Open your third eye, fellas. All right, the Russo brothers got a choke. I hate this. I hate this. Because I'm just like, now they're like, yeah, go back to the teasers, make the clues. I'm like, ain't nothing happening in that shit.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Like, come on, bro. Like, why don't we talk about. I'm going to let the Reddit detectives to figure this way. Yeah, sure. If they got something, they got something. But, man, put the movie out. Stop playing in my face. They get a little cute.
Starting point is 00:34:25 We get it. We restore the feeling. Everybody coming back. This trailer itself starts with Shuri. It seems like Mbaku's king now. Yeah, well, he's a king of Wakanda. Well, wait, wait, no. I thought how it was.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Wasn't Mbaku already a king in the land? No, no, no, no, no. I think that Mbaku's the king of Wakanda. Yeah. It'd be great if we see that full scene and he's just like. Yeah, I think Mbaku's, because she says, No, I heard it, but I just assume, like. That was the clue.
Starting point is 00:34:55 We have to prepare for our people. I think she's talking about her, Mbaku. Well, she said something about, like, she said something about my king or a king or something like that. And then I think Abaku is the king of Wakanda. King of Wakanda, Ben Grim, Yancey Street, between, you know, brother. But he didn't get punched in the chest like he did in Wakanda forever, then be king. Come on, bro. I think he's the king now.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I think he's the king. I think you got to, I think you got to make your peace with that. Yeah. I think you got to do with it. Oh, black woman can't be king? Apparently not. But maybe we don't resort tomorrow. Hold on time.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Wait, hold on those. Time out. I didn't make the rules. Angela Bassett was the queen in the session movie. Don't do that. Don't do that. She passed away. And they saw how motherfuckers reacted.
Starting point is 00:35:37 They're shirily like... You don't like him back. It was king. Fuck no. Why? He got pieced up by Niamore. And Chalda got pieced up by a killmonger. Sometimes it happens.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Yeah, and then he got his leg back. Right. Sometimes he got his leg back when he had the back the Black Panther spars. When they went human for humans, he stopped. Yeah, no, it wasn't good. Okay. When they went panther for panther, he won. But when they win human for human, all right?
Starting point is 00:36:00 Do you respect that more? You know, I've thought about it. I'm not sure. I think it matters more. Rest and peace to our brother. I think it matters more if you win human to human. Right. I think you still got a person to win a human.
Starting point is 00:36:15 That's straight. It is. That's straight dog. There's no juice. There's no sauce. There's nothing extra. If I can go ban for ban with you, human to human, you got to respect that. Guess what?
Starting point is 00:36:26 If you disrespect me in front of all my people, I'll lose the boxing match I am going to get the blicking there's nothing you can say about it Well I mean I'll go to the car Wait before I forget I really want to bring something up
Starting point is 00:36:41 Because we saw Damson at the Golden Globes My mom is like hey yo You're hiding the muscles They've been asking him Like hey yo we've been hearing The rumors And he's being a little cute
Starting point is 00:36:50 Trying to deflect I think it's I think Damson is about He's about to say he's black The problem is like He could be telling the truth At this point We don't believe none of these dudes
Starting point is 00:36:57 dudes no more. No. Nobody. You asked Chris Evans for three years. Hey, man, he'll be the movie. Meanwhile, swalt to the gills. Has not been this big since he was doing endgame. No, man, this and this. At this point, it really don't matter what he say. As long as he's attached to it, he's got to, like, we don't feel like he's lying. I think all of that shit is set up. Yep. I think all of that shit is set up. Hey, we're doing, I'm here supporting F1. It's like, hi, we're here supporting F1. Look, when we get, when we get on the carpet. it's cool to talk about F1. I was a big deal with Brad Pitt,
Starting point is 00:37:31 but I don't know if you heard some rumors that I'm Black Panther. I don't know if you heard about that. Even if it's true or not. I need you to ask me about that. And when you ask, total retreat. So he can flash that smile.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Like, ask me straight up. Hey, we've heard you some rumors and like lean into it. And then I'm gonna come. I'm not gonna give you nothing. But I need that question to be asked.
Starting point is 00:37:51 That's partly why I'm here and just give me the juice right now. Boom. But here's the thing. Tampson as as, as, Black Panther, Denzel Washington as the villain. That's pretty great.
Starting point is 00:38:01 That could restore the feeling. With Google at the helm on. It's great. Because also, Coogler did say, though, because I'm wondering now when the third Black Panther movie is going to come out because he's saying the X, he's doing a reboot of the X-Files, and that's going to be his next project. I think he's probably directing the pilot and maybe a few other episodes. So what? That means Black Panther 3. I'd imagine that probably starts shooting this year.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Yeah. Right? Because we got Doomsday this year and the Secret Wars the following year. Right, so you got two years to make something happen. Like, 2029? Black Panther 3, 2029 is too far. That's 20, you do that 28? Wait, so do you think it comes after Secret Wars, Black Panthers?
Starting point is 00:38:38 Definitely, yeah, definitely after Secret Wars. Yeah, you'd have to do it after Secret Wars. Because it'd be kind of crazy for like, like, I mean, I mean, it really depends on doomsday. We don't know what happens on Doomsday. But I feel like... They're saying it might start filming in June. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:51 This June? Yeah. That's very soon. But then, but then like, okay, I think it comes between I think the movie comes between Doomsday and Secret Wars. That could be cool. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:39:04 I think it does. There's no way. I think you need Black Panther. But then you would have to announce Damson as a Black Panther and that's a surprise. I would be surprised if Damson ain't Black Panther in Doomsday. That's what I'm saying. I would much rather have him like,
Starting point is 00:39:19 we go to theater, we don't know, and then he sells up at Dooms Day. We're like, oh, stand dancing, Black Panther. And then they do the rollout. Of the Marvel projects, the sandwich between that. and Secret Wars, I think Black Panther is the right thing to do. Black Panther's the only one to me that has the juice still. Because you can get in a Spider-Man movie already.
Starting point is 00:39:34 So the only other one that still got some juice left. So it's been reported. According to a new listing on the film and television industry alliance, Black Panther is rumored to be titled Shadows of Wakanda. We just thought about that. Set the film in London, June 15th, 2026. If that's the case, then you would imagine they shoot for six months. they up on post
Starting point is 00:39:58 that movie's coming out in 27 or 28 do you think that they're going to adapt the like intergalactic Black Panther storyline intergalactic I'm not sure I'm more interested in what they are going to do
Starting point is 00:40:11 because I personally think that Doomsday is going to set up Damson as Black Panther we're going to get that from either an incursion or some type of situation I guess my only question
Starting point is 00:40:25 is the Shurie survive this. I'd be kind of, that'd be kind of, that'd be kind of sick. My question is, do they do like some time, Tommy Wyme shenanigans and he's basically just to Chala's son? Because they already said that. Oh, fast forward to the time.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Yeah, so basically like, in the new timeline, basically he technically is Tachala, but give him a little connection to the first Chala. Hey, they set us up for this. All right. Top Crashout? Yep, let's get into Top Crashouts and Game of Thrones history. God damn you.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Who's taking this over? All right. Next week, we're returning to Westeros with the first episode of a Night of the Seven Kingdoms. To get ready for the Game of Thrones spin-off, we're debating some of the series' best crashouts. There will be five rounds.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Stark Targary and Lannister, Barathean, and Wild Card. Each Midnight Boy will nominate their pick with the winner of each round needing a majority vote. Special note, we're only focusing on events that have already transpired in the HBO show universe.
Starting point is 00:41:20 That means all of Game of Thrones and the last two seasons of the House of Dragon. That's because y'all didn't want to get up here talk about Robert's rebellion or Agon's conquest or the Blackfire Rebellions. I'm trying to be me. I've been doing this for, I've been doing this for years. We can't do it.
Starting point is 00:41:34 They're not lowerheads like that. We can't make them be lowerheads in any way, shape, or form. Jomi, we tried. We've tried. Let's get the round one, y'all. Round one is Starks. Then you start us off. Who's your first nominee?
Starting point is 00:41:49 So the Starks don't have as many crashouts as you guys might think that they do. when I look at the crashouts that you guys have already chosen, really a lot of the good ones are on here, but I'm going for like a lifelong crashout. I'm going for hating a baby. Hating a baby.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Cat? You stole Jomey's. So what? It's not as no, is, there's no worse crashouts. This was for sure the thinnest of all the crashesouts. But I'm thinking, like, John is not, John's whole thing is he's not a crashout. Ned Stark doesn't really close.
Starting point is 00:42:26 crash out. Oh, Ari again, her lickback. That's not a crash out. So, if you got to like plan something? The only other one I thought is because I could have done Ned crashing out basically on Cersy after he realizes that Joffrey is not a Baratian. Right. But Ned don't really crash out though. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Let's go to Steve because Steve's nominee is kind of similar. So this is kind of, this is like, it's bending my personal definition of. of a crashout, but it's kind of like a poorly informed decision that leads to destruction. That's how I'm kind of choosing to define crashouts in Game of Thrones, because that's kind of what all of these people do. And I nominated Ned falsely confessing to treason only for Joffrey to kill him anyway. Well, he had to do that to save songs. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Well, that was a plan, right? Initially... But he thought that, like, Honor would save him that nobody would act... That he wouldn't die from that, but it turns out that it did. and I think that that's like a poorly informed miscalculation that leads to destruction. I would venture, in fact, that your nominee is more of a crash out than that.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I feel like him, he was trying to play the game of dogs. Charles's nominee is the winner to me. All right, so my nominee is Rob marrying to Lisa. That's a crash out. First of all, when I watched that episode where literally his mom is like, hey, bro, you can't do that. You can't do that.
Starting point is 00:43:50 You cannot do this. What the fuck are you doing? Because here's the thing, I hadn't read the books up to that point. And when Rob is making the moves, I'm like, damn, he's getting it in. Like, man, this is, this is the Prince who probably. God damn, he's working him. And the minute he doesn't keep his word, I'm like, dog, you could have just had Talisa in the tuck.
Starting point is 00:44:10 She would have been your real number one. You know what I'm saying? You didn't have to marry for love and he don't listen. That's when I knew him. The fray girl. I mean, really. All right, the fray girl. All women are beautiful, but the fray will be.
Starting point is 00:44:22 all over the queen's out i can do that's the biggest crash out that's a crash out that changed everything you got your girl killed your mama your mom killed you got everybody fucked up when they have rob on the horse with the head of his tower that's it's nasty work you can't do it but also that's when i knew because this is that's when i knew rob really didn't have the heart for it Like, I'm just like, hey, bro, you, you know, want to know who you, he got a like chance to rap, chance of Rapper Westrose. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:45:01 That's crazy. Because let me, whoa. Okay. At the time, Chance came out. You know, everybody's like, all right, who's going to be the next up? Kanye was kind of on the way out. Drake was on top. He was like, damn, Chance is going to do it.
Starting point is 00:45:15 He's going to do the independent thing. Blah, blah, blah, blah. He drops a whole album about his marriage. Your motherfuckers was like, no. So you're saying that was a crash out for Chance. This is the only thing I'll say about Chance that I can't say about Rob. Chance is good at what he does. They are on Twitter calling Rob Stark if man, potential.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Whoa. Rob was winning battles. You can say whatever you want. Chance Cole. Rob Start is, oh, he whacked, bro. You say before he don't listen to Kat. and he marries to listen. My motherfucker was getting busy.
Starting point is 00:45:54 He won, he won't some battles. Yes, they call it. He went in regular seasons battles, but they don't playoff battles. He's the football. He's the Herbert. He's the rest of Rose, man. I just, I've never,
Starting point is 00:46:05 I understood that in order to make a good story, he had to do what he did, but that's a crash out, man. All right, so that's a winner? I would say it's going to. The Calum one is tough because it's like a lifelong thing.
Starting point is 00:46:18 She just hate that little baby. Right. And this is the, argument we were having where you were like Ned should have told Catlin that that's a or that's egg on target. No, no, no, but Ned is all about honor and he made a promise to a sister. So what are you going to do? What?
Starting point is 00:46:34 Wait, what's not going to do? Well, what you're going to do is you're going to say, my sister's fucking dead. And there's a living child that's running around getting played with by this woman. I've disappointed everyone for no reason. And this is how I know, this is how I know you're not locked in. because after he took that baby from the Tower of Joy, he took Sir Arthur Dane's sword back to his family house
Starting point is 00:46:58 and was like, hey, your homie died, but here's a little sword because I'm that honorable. That's what I do. It's not that I'm not like that. I don't know what you want him to do in that situation. It's stupid because here's the deal. To me, I understand that. You have to, you have to, now listen,
Starting point is 00:47:14 if you guys are saying that Catlin's start, that Cat Stark if she is the type of blabber mouth that can handle the secret that this kid is actually not my bastard that's one thing
Starting point is 00:47:31 I'm not saying you gotta tell John if it was me y'all know how I am I'd have ran back to Cat first thing and be like yo you're not gonna believe this is crazy this whole thing was crazy like
Starting point is 00:47:44 bro bro like on some real shit you want to hear some shit He did not kidnap her They was fucking married It's a baby Look at this little nigga He got black hair
Starting point is 00:47:55 Like this a Targary We got a Targary What should we do? Should we kill him? That Scott can't kill him My nephew What should we do? What if cat was awesome
Starting point is 00:48:03 Like hey yo That iron thrown his by now Like let's install our boys Then you say Hey hey chill and all that shit We can't do that shit But for real it's crazy But that's not what he did
Starting point is 00:48:12 He allowed him to be hated For 16 years And then he died He died also doing other dumb shit. Now, you guys can talk about, and this is another thing. When we talk about this, we can move on. We talk about this one decision, and we talk about Ned's adherence to honor.
Starting point is 00:48:28 I get it. I understand honor is very important. You're talking to one of the great all-time liars. I'm not the one that should actually be discussing this. But I will say this, though. There's really no way to look at the end of Ned Stark's life and everything that happens surrounding him. He's an idiot.
Starting point is 00:48:45 He's stupid. Absolutely. So doing that might have been he's honorable to a fault. It's consistent with his character. Right. It's also pretty fucked up. Well, but, whoa, whoa, whoa. Now, counterpoint.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Okay. John Snow. I think Kat did him a service. You know, he got it out the mud. That hatred formed him to who he was. You know, if he's pampered, if he's coming up, no, hey, oh, I'm half Targary. And this is all promised to me. I'm going to get busy.
Starting point is 00:49:13 He doesn't have to know. He doesn't have to know. have to know. If you want to wait to his 18th birthday or something and be like, but cat, but that cat would have been, like, baby him in a little bit. He would have turned out like fucking Rob. I don't know. I don't know if that's true. I look, I can, obviously the story demands this. Yeah. But I still think he could have told her and not let her live out trauma every time she saw what is essentially her nephew. And Ned was out there hitting hose. Like, Ned cares so much about his honor, but he out there, he let her believe that he was
Starting point is 00:49:45 out there. Can I ask this? Is it toxic for me to be like, hey, yo, can I, you got to get over it? You got to get over it. I think that, too. I mean, that's not toxic, man. You got to, at some point, man, it's been 16 years. But I'll tell y'all something else.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Don't bring it out on the kid. I'll tell y'all something else. Be mad at me. That's easy for y'all to say. Y'all got girls. The girl go away. She comes back pregnant. Just let you know, I had sex with someone.
Starting point is 00:50:09 We're going to raise the baby. Y'all niggas going to be like snooping baby boy. All right. Okay, no. All right. Fuck your fault, little, nigga. Say, Uncle, Uncle Jeremy, can you help me with my project?
Starting point is 00:50:24 No, nigga. Ask your daddy. What the fuck yet? Wait, so you tell the midnight boys. You're saying, like, we all go to McDonald's. I don't get the little home, you know. And I'm like, no, go to that. Call your father.
Starting point is 00:50:35 And he'll get a fish. All right. All right. So, for the Starks, I'm assuming that the winner is Rob and everything that happens. with the red wedding. I'm gonna say Rob and everything.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Before we move on, we're not missing anything with Aria, anything with Sonsa. Well, so this is, I'll spoil my wild card. I think of something else. Now,
Starting point is 00:50:56 my one that I'm surprised nobody picked was everything that happened with John at the Battle of the Bastards having no fucking plan just running in there on a sewer fox. But is it a crash out?
Starting point is 00:51:07 Is it a crash out of it works? No, no, no. It did not work because of anything that John did. It worked because of Sonsa. So y'all know my John Snowman. Almost crashed out, by the way. True.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Almost. She was, but, but she got stopped from crashing out by the hound. Right. Yes. The hound stopped her. That would have been a crash out. Right. Not really a crash out.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Can you crash out in self-defense? Not really. She needed to kill this. No, but she needed to, but she couldn't in that, like, she would have got, she might have got cooked to them over there. So wait. So you're saying John, John at the battle basketball is not a crash. So here's my thing about John Snowe in general.
Starting point is 00:51:38 He's always right. The problem is he don't really have the, he needs. he not he's always right but it's not really in in the right way let me explain what i mean by that at every point john's knows like hey guys we should do this people go nah man we not we not this not really where we're at exactly right then john's like well somebody's got to do it it's got to be me and he go by himself on some dumb half-thought idea but then eventually people go actually that was the right call let's go let's let's let's go with john and It works out to a point, right?
Starting point is 00:52:16 That's his whole arc. It's him just like, oh, sorry, I got to do this by myself. Remember, at the season five, when he's like, he comes back from the wilds. And they're like, yo, man, you're not really that guy. We got to kill you. You're not really him. All I'm saying is my guy is always right. He just don't go about it right away.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Was it a crash out when he gets raised from the dead and he looks at, Allie, all them guys, they gotta go. He's like, yeah, he knows. Everybody else, the little homie. He's crazy. That was the last one you got to, you gotta die. Yeah. The little homie has to die.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I felt bad for Ollie. That's my guy. You can't let nobody survive. That's the rules. All right, who is the rules? Round two is who. Oh, okay. Round two.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Targaryians. Van, you started soft. Okay. Viseres Targaryen, the brother. Danny's brother. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. You look at your sister.
Starting point is 00:53:12 and you tell your sister I'd let the entire Dorthraki Army fuck you if that to me that's still Yeah That's a crash I know that they're they're talking
Starting point is 00:53:25 He looks at his sister His little baby sister I got out I'm like in that first season There was a lot of Danny in that season Okay We saw a lot of day He looks at his sister and he goes
Starting point is 00:53:36 You know I will let the entire Darth Iraqi hoard fuck you If it was bring me an army to go get my throne back. Crash out on your own sister talking about you and let the Dr. Acky's hit. You can tell they don't shower good.
Starting point is 00:53:52 So, do you talk about your own sister? You talk about, nah, man, I know it's different ones, but when I think about all the cold crash-outy things that have been said in Game of Thrones that always jumps into my head. By the way, his entire character was a crash out. Terrible, terrible, terrible. He crashed out on Carl Drago. inside the tent that time
Starting point is 00:54:13 and ended up getting the goddamn the most of the line he got the crown of gold right he got the crown of gold that crash out right there could easily be the second crash out in terms of targary obviously there's a crash out
Starting point is 00:54:27 from whatever yeah yeah but but that is mine though two from him right there my nominee is and it was a different type of TV when Danny was getting carried by the brown people at Slavers bed How is that a- Are you saying that people of slavers bad clack?
Starting point is 00:54:42 She's not really crashing. You know, no, no, no. That's, first of all, we should have known right then that we couldn't trust Danny. Old white savior ass. You know what I'm saying? You can let the brown people carry you. You'd be like, no, no, just walk. You can walk me.
Starting point is 00:54:54 I'm not Jesus. I'm not. What do you mean? But she was out there frees of slaves. She's not humble, though. So she needs to be carried by the, she needs to be like, hey, yo, I need y'all to pick me up. They made a decision. They made a decision.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Man, what? Wait, I know you ain't saying, man. They made a decision. They made a decision. They said, they said the slaves made a decision. To be honest with you, they weren't slaves anymore.
Starting point is 00:55:16 It's actually the first thing they did as free people. Their first decision as free people were to care of. They made it. They made a decision. Oh, mom.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Come on. Once people are free, we should know this. Once people are free that always make the proper decisions like right away. They know what we said. Wow.
Starting point is 00:55:33 No, I remember when that episode dropped, back when people were still reading, man, the think pieces. Back with some people reading is wow
Starting point is 00:55:41 when you go back and watch that that shit you like I remember she was like I don't really like this
Starting point is 00:55:46 I don't really like this it my crash out is from house of the dragon and this is when Vaman
Starting point is 00:55:53 gets his head caught off by by Damon he's like so what's it Lainer goes off
Starting point is 00:56:00 to be with his little boyfriend they go across the narrow sea whatever don't call him
Starting point is 00:56:04 a little boyfriend that's his husband what do he's his husband he lived life together
Starting point is 00:56:08 that's true Well, look, they was together. And he was like, you know, I don't eat this anymore. I'm going to fake my death. I'm going to go off and be with my husband. That's cool. But then there's a little problem with who gets to be the Lord of Driftmark. Correct.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And they went all the way to the kid. And King was like, it's Lucerne. He made the call. That's what it's supposed to be, right? And Vaman was like, nah, dog, it's me. That's not even. And Damon was like, hold on, player. Don't, don't roll out.
Starting point is 00:56:35 And in Vamemant, her children are. bastards and she is a whore. That's it. And Vissarps was like, hold on, play it. And David was just like, too much dip on the chip now. He can keep his tongue. You can keep his tongue out. That's a, like, we're talking about validity of crashouts. That's a pretty valid crash out.
Starting point is 00:56:59 That's a righteous crash out. Because what you're not going to do is talk about my niece slash future wife like that. That's crazy. But you also are supporting the extra judicial killings of black men when you do that, like, you know. Oh, wait, so that, so he was, that's what it. Like, the, the excuse that he used is
Starting point is 00:57:15 excuse that the police use all the time. All right. He was doing too much. I had to get him out of here. And we, kick that, kick that. This is the type of shit. Hey, I'm going to say this.
Starting point is 00:57:26 And this is going to be bad. Like, I saw this beautiful video. Never mind. I'm not even going to go. Okay. I'm not going to do that. Fuck that. All right.
Starting point is 00:57:34 All right. All right. All right. All right. That's the one. It's the one. It's easy. destroying an entire city.
Starting point is 00:57:41 The part of this crash out, man, is, like, it could have been so valid. Like, it could have, if they had taken the proper time to, like, set this up for real. If we had seen Danny on Dragonstone just being mad and paranoid, and then, oh, John is also Targaryen. Ah, man, like, I got to do this. If she legitimately goes there after, like, episodes and episodes of being like, yo, if somebody don't do this, if I don't get this, if I don't do this, I won't get the throne. and I have to get it in fire and in blood would have been like cinema Obviously this is like the easy call
Starting point is 00:58:13 But like this only speaks to like kind of the The fall off that the last season of the show had Because while this is the biggest crash out It's kind of the most like Unjustified and unexplained and unwarranted one That we have and like because we don't have The source material to confirm whether or not This was the real reasoning behind it
Starting point is 00:58:33 But because it killed Masconde Yeah like because that Well we always knew that Danny was destined to turn mad. People disagree with you. People who argue that she was supposed to be the rightful ruler of Westrose. Story-wise, the only way
Starting point is 00:58:48 that Game of Thrones ends is basically Danny turning mad using the nuclear arms that are the fucking dragons and her lover John having to take her out. That all makes sense. It wasn't done well, but it makes sense. Can I nominate another Targaryan crash out from Hodger, drag? Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Which is Amin, killing his cousin, when they're riding through, remember the cousin comes? He's killing his cousin when they're riding through the sky on the dragons. He's still mad from having his
Starting point is 00:59:20 fucking eye cut out all the years ago. Is that an Aman crashout or is that a Vagar crash out? That's an Aiman crash out because Amon jumped up in the sky to fucking terrorize and he should have known that it was going crazy.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Vagar is nuts. I could nominate that. I mean, obviously the answer is Danny burning children. Yes. But like I can nominate that. We need to bring that up as a crash out because he essentially jumps up there
Starting point is 00:59:52 because he's an asshole because he's mad because he's got all of these issues and then kills his own kin up there riding around. Amy is a dude who's just like, don't worry, my dog don't buy it. I got it under control you like motherfucker dude. He's salivating right at my feet right now. Like, come on, bro. If we're doing additional Targaryian crashouts,
Starting point is 01:00:10 I'd also like to mention Alicent after like the I thing. And they're like, yeah, we're not really going to punish you kid. Yeah. She gets the dagger. She's going to stab Reneer. Yeah. That's like that's a crazy. We didn't see much of it in the Game of Thrones TV show,
Starting point is 01:00:28 but technically everything the Mad King did. Yeah. You know, yeah. Everything the Mad King did. Mad King was a crashout. Yeah, I mean, literally the crash out. He's not on the thing. I know.
Starting point is 01:00:38 I was just, I was just thinking, like, what about the Mac King? I was just going to... I think that, I personally think that maybe Ragar taking, the Stark sister.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Yeah. That's not a crashout. That's kind of a, Leanna, that's kind of a crashout. That's, I don't know, that's crash out. That's kind of a crash out.
Starting point is 01:00:58 You just, they just went up Skonda together. They were in love. They ran away. What is a crash out? Hold on. Wait a second. Is Eddard Stark coming down to King's Landing
Starting point is 01:01:06 and then him getting cut and then... No, no. That's not a crashout. I say that this... Now, we told me... We're talking about we're going to... How are you going to your Lord back?
Starting point is 01:01:16 Go. I think Raygar-Targar and doing that is a crash-out. He legitimately set the whole kingdom to war. Now, if you wanted to do that, it was maybe a way to do that, right? It was maybe a way to do that to, to, like, get the houses together, have a summit. Is somebody going to talk to Robert Baratheon? he's six foot five and he's fucking angry with a big ass hammer
Starting point is 01:01:40 is somebody going to discuss this with him this is the woman that's betrothed to him no that's not what you do it you took her you absconded it now everybody's fucking I don't know but the reality is if you just do it like that if you just do it like that with no
Starting point is 01:01:56 thought about the politics that's kind of a crash out she don't want you Rob she don't want you I understand but the reality is we are betraying There has to be a conversation from somebody. Maybe you go to...
Starting point is 01:02:11 Hey, Rob, hey, big dog. Rules is rules now. I know the tournament was kind of crazy. And I gave the lilies to your girl instead of my girl. My fault. But I didn't want to say, though. I'm talking with you. I'm taking with you back to the crib.
Starting point is 01:02:27 But there's like a whole thing. Like all the houses had come together and decided that they actually wanted Ragar to take over for the Mad King. He ruined everything. O' for life. I'm not saying it's not a big crashout. It's definitely crash out. But Eddard start going there crash out.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Mad King killing him crash out. Then at the Erie, John, crash out. That's not a crash out. I mean, you're not a crash out. You're just coming to the fence of your people at that point. Crash out. Like, Rob's definitely crashed out. Rob crashed out because Rob did something based on feelings that was like he didn't think through.
Starting point is 01:03:04 And when I'm saying that, like, all these people, making these dumb ass decisions. All right, but we need it for the story. So Danny and the bells for- sure. Danny and the bells for sure. Danny and the bells are the one.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Then next up, we have the Lannisters. Who are you nominating? Man, I got twin crashouts here. Twin and crash outs. The deepest of all of them. Yeah, the Lannis has got a lot of crash-outs.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Like, I got twin crash outs here. I said that, I see that none of y'all put it on there. I'm going, Tyrion and Lannister crashing out twice on Joffrey. Yeah. I love both crashouts.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Great. King. Now I have struck a king. Did my hand fall off? I love that. Smacked them right in his fucking mouth. That's not really a crash out to me. That is a crash out. You smack the fucking king. He deserved it. That's a crash
Starting point is 01:03:50 out. And then the second one is just now kings were dropping lies in the small council meeting. You know I love that? Go on. Because Geoffrey is so pussy. Like, Joffrey literally didn't know what to say.
Starting point is 01:04:06 You're looking around, blah, blah, blah, I am the king. And even Tyler was like, there's no man that his king has to say I am the king. Put the king to bed. And I love this. Tyrion had had enough of this kid's shit both times. He had enough of this kid's shit. He's like, you know what? That kid is fucking crazy.
Starting point is 01:04:31 My siblings have been having sex. There's probably something off about him. why are we doing this thing where we're acting like this kid actually has anything to say I smack your mouth, I threaten your life. Those are two crashouts that I put together. I love that.
Starting point is 01:04:45 I always thought the fall off of Game of Thrones as a show is best exemplified by the fact that in the beginning seasons you're always just like, all right, Tyrion is the smartest man in the fucking room. And by the end of the seasons, I'm like, dog, this is a different character, bro. Yeah, they stole the thunder.
Starting point is 01:05:02 If you're counting Rob or dot Rob Raygar of Scott and Winliana as a crashout then I'm gonna go with Jamie leaving Brian to go to Kings Landing and be with his girl or be with his girl, be with Searcy as a crashout. That was crazy. He had no need to do that. He finally had the love that he wanted
Starting point is 01:05:22 something safe, something secure, something that like people won't go lay in, look at you disgust and he was like, actually. Now he need his true love. He need the love of his sister. Come on. Game of Thrones proves it's anything. ever do anything for life. I mean, you could say, I mean, it's, he just, you know, the heart wants what's it, what it wants. And sometimes the heart wants a person that shared the same one with you.
Starting point is 01:05:42 That's what he said. That's what the show says. Y'all, y'all watch the show. And they died together and under some bricks and it was beautiful. There's another Jamie crash out that we're not talking about. All right. All right. We don't have to, we don't have to do this.
Starting point is 01:05:57 I'm just saying. Just say it. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go.
Starting point is 01:06:00 No, go. Go. Go. Go. Go. No, go. Go. No.
Starting point is 01:06:02 No. You know what? Jamie did something really disgusting on the show. Very appurant. Very apporant on the show. And it's a fucking major crash out. It happened on the show. If you watch Game of Thrones right now... That happened on the show.
Starting point is 01:06:15 It happens on the show. And it looked as if... Not looked as if. Jamie forced himself on Searcy. After what had happened... Joffrey died. After Joprey Jopjeffield. Right in front of his dead.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Right in front of his dead. That to me is a fucking massive crashout. And it's one of... not the black marks of the show from the standpoint of... You know what? You know what the funny thing is, though? Question about that seriously. That is looked at specifically as one of the most disgusting,
Starting point is 01:06:53 vicious, politically incorrect, whatever you want to use of the show. But throughout the history of Game of Thrones, women are constantly abused. Right, right. They're constantly abused. But at that time. That one is, no, at that time.
Starting point is 01:07:08 No, no, no. What I'm saying is, but at that time, I think what people were getting frustrated with was just how gratuitous it got. I think it was not, and I still believe it to this day where they got a little high on their own supply, and instead of it being something that pushed the story forward,
Starting point is 01:07:26 it almost was just like, how much can we turn up the horror? how much can we turn? Like, it always seemed like they were not, maybe not consciously they weren't trying to do it, but subconscious they're like, how can we push this up to 100 and 100? And I'm just like, all right,
Starting point is 01:07:39 this is not done tastefully. It's not done. It didn't seem like they were really trying to feel like, does this actually move the story forward? How much of this do we actually need to see? And that's what I think the big failing of the show will always be. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:07:54 My nominee, though, is, now technically she was getting her lick back, But, Circe blowing up the great sad. I mean, you can't beat it. So it's a thing about just being a crash out, right? It was like obviously planned. Like, she locked in with the wildfire from the Mad King. And what I would, and this is stuff for me because I'm a, I'm a day one,
Starting point is 01:08:15 Sercy hater. I hate Sircy. I don't think she's a great villain. Super one-dimensional motivations are like clear as class. I could not disagree more. I think she's a great thing she's awesome as a villain. I could not disagree more. I thought she was awful.
Starting point is 01:08:27 I don't know what you want. No, man. Like, I don't know. Maybe it was just like me binging the show in like a week. But I'm watching the show and I'm like, yo, I can see right through you. I don't know how nobody else does.
Starting point is 01:08:39 It's clearly all about power. She don't, she faked cares about her kids to me. I'm sitting here like, fake cares about her kids. Absolutely. She at no point. That's not true. That's not true.
Starting point is 01:08:50 We're going to talk about Tommy later. He jumped up to say she like, I guess somebody got to be, somebody got to be clean. Like, it's not even like, I can agree with you that there are some shows I don't think it's in Circe's portrayal, but there are some shows that where like a villain is portrayed and it seems like it's not that she's smarter than everyone, but it's just everyone's just a little dumber than she is.
Starting point is 01:09:12 That's exactly what it was. And I don't agree that that was like entirely what Circe's arc was on when it comes to her portrayal in that show. But I can see what you're thinking when it comes to that. She's just like, yo, y'all just letting her walk past y'all, y'all don't see that for real. But I will say despite all of that, despite everything my hate, she did that one with the sept, bro. She put everybody in all her ops in one room.
Starting point is 01:09:35 It was like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be there. But here's my issue, and this is always happens on Game of Thrones. Somebody about to get their lick back, they can't just be like, all right, I for an eye, they like, no, nah, we turn in this year. All the way, you know. They always do. It's all the drama, yo. This thing, you just several, she whack a guy, you, he whack you back, done.
Starting point is 01:09:54 But with Benedict But with Benedict It's a little different All right, yo See, what do you got? Tyrion kills Taiwan Yeah It's a good one
Starting point is 01:10:05 He came in there with the boat Like he had an idea You know what I mean But again, Thinking about that saying I don't really think it was gonna do it for real man I didn't think It's more of the shock of it all
Starting point is 01:10:16 Yeah It's just like what the What the fuck did you do? I love it I mean I loved when he did it Because it's yeah Tyrion is the time was the worst But then I'm on him like
Starting point is 01:10:24 you, Tyrion, man, like, you for real about it? And then when he does it, can you, could Tywin be nominated here for having sex
Starting point is 01:10:31 with the love of your son's life? That, like, maybe. We didn't even see it even worse. Having all of the Kingsguard have sex with Tyrion's first wife is some hate.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Yeah, that's the, like, from before the show files, yeah. Like, Ty would just, tie with hate. I mean,
Starting point is 01:10:53 he's one of the worst. we've ever seen. Just like in general. I mean, again, if you want to go back to Robert's Rebellion, what he did with Elliot Martel and everybody. Like, he's just like the worst of the worst.
Starting point is 01:11:07 My book, actually, I think it, I think Cerces is worst, but dog, Tyrion, because here's the thing, Tyrion have been weighing his whole life. Yeah, like, so I need this. He was like, that's going to be my vote. What?
Starting point is 01:11:20 Tyrion killing Thailand. Tyrion killing Taiwan. He's just, that baffle It was like, enough is enough. Yeah, you're like, you shoot you with a crossbowl, bitch-ass-nigger. On the toilet. On the table. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:11:31 He didn't even let him put his face up. He's like, nah. All right, what you voting for? I'm voting for Tyrion. You know what? Cersie growing up. That's more of a plan. I'm going for, I'm voting for Tyrion.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Yeah. Because he had to run away. Like, it's just like after that. It's just like his whole life was fun. Yeah. We also could put Tom in there. No, he's coming up. He's coming up.
Starting point is 01:11:54 He's a pirathing. That's right. All right, next. So, we're going for it, Jim. I'm going with, uh, Chiry. All right. Round four, Barathians. Actually, we already,
Starting point is 01:12:03 Jomi, start because we brought up Tom. Tom and watching Marjorie Tyrell blow up. It was like, you know what? I left. First time I'm watching it, I do that. Bro, I was crazy. It's not funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:17 But he saw, the whole thing went by and he said, oh, that's my girl in there. Two steps. I'll see you on the ground. It, it's not funny. But it's absolutely. It's really bad-angued. Come on, bro.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Because he's like, ah, he fucked. He immediately, be a ridiculous. He immediately, is that Natalie Dormer up in flames? I have no reason to live. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Jump straight off the fucking thing. Jesus. So, I'm going for one from season one. I like crash outs of the verbal variety. Like when someone actually gets incited, then they crash out.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Right. Robert Barathean crashing out on Ned because Ned didn't want to kill Danny. Yeah. That's so funny to me. The fucking whore dies. Go on
Starting point is 01:13:12 back to Winifal. He hates the Targary. He hates them. Ned is like, I don't know, man. We've been friends for a long time. We studied with John Aaron today. We were basically. with brothers. Maybe we don't, you know, kids,
Starting point is 01:13:29 maybe we don't like, you know, go all the way across the narrow sea to kill someone and all that. Maybe we shouldn't do that. Maybe that's like what the Mac King would do. And Rob, Bobby was like, yo, fuck you. I don't know if I have to remind you that I was getting ready to be married to the baddest chicken Winneville. Your sister and her brother kidnapped her, took her away, and all of this shit. I'm the king. I don't even like it.
Starting point is 01:13:56 All I like, I can't even get back to my realness. I'm fat. I'm having sex with everyone. I'm hunting bored. My wife is fucking her brother. My wife is fucking up. All of this shit,
Starting point is 01:14:07 because this fucking family in a crazy-ass bed, and you want me to not kill him? Get the fuck out. Well, so here's the thing now, because this reminds me to something that you dropped in the group chat. You said Westeroast is really the hood.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Can you break down how you came to this realization? It is. Because like when you look at there's nothing more when you look at like what governs
Starting point is 01:14:32 it kind of like your safety in the hood like if you just take South Baton Rouge where I'm from right it's all about
Starting point is 01:14:41 who you think has power who exposes themselves as even eligible to be fucked over like the way that you don't get
Starting point is 01:14:52 fucked over where I'm from is not to make yourself eligible to be fucked over. So if people think that you could be fucked over, you're getting fucked over, right? But you have to show enough power
Starting point is 01:15:03 to make people think that fucking with you is too much of a fucking big deal. And that's how Westeros is. Westeros is about consolidating power, alliances, and all of that, so nobody tries you. But you know what happens anyway? A woman, money,
Starting point is 01:15:22 a position, territory, the same things. All of the alliances that you make inside of all of these places, they're not good enough for just plain old human emotion not to creep in and make somebody fucking do something. Is that why the Starks are always getting God because they're the bitches of Westrose?
Starting point is 01:15:42 They're all about honor. They all about this. And it doesn't save them. And what happens is a cyclical perpetual get-back cycle. I'm getting back at you for what you did this time and this time. I mean, it's the same shit. Actually, now that we're talking about Westrose is the hood.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Let's do this exercise really quick. Why are characters? Oh, shit. Game of Thrones. You know, you know who Ned is? Who's Neff? Stringer. Ned is fucking Stringer.
Starting point is 01:16:09 You know why? No, Ned is Stringer. Ned is Stringer. Ned is Stringer. Nett is that honorable? Because the first time you watch it, it's not about being honorable. The first time you watch it, you think Ned got the answers. Then you realize, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:23 know what? There's a fucking idiot. Shout out to Jamel Hill. I defended Stringer. I defended Stringer because Stringer was an econ class at the community college. Nah. That's right. That's right. I was like,
Starting point is 01:16:36 oh, it's over. What are you doing? No, he was trying to bring fucking micro-economics of a hundred. He's like, because there's a thing, too. That's why the wire is so great,
Starting point is 01:16:46 because you do have Warren Honey who takes, like, one community college class and comes back. It's just like, hey, y'all, y'all, y'all don't know. And I'm not going about supply and demand, motherfucker. Dringing the back of the car, looking at them like, what y'all actually got is an elastic economy. And these niggas in the car, what the fuck are you talking about? Wait down, who's Marla?
Starting point is 01:17:06 Oh, Marlowe is a good one. Who's Marlough? Is Marlowe what's his name? I think Danny's Marlough. Really? Yeah, my name is my name. Like, she, everybody don't really. They're just like, who's his little?
Starting point is 01:17:21 Is Joffrey Ziggy? Yeah. Wait a minute. You wouldn't think rest in peace. You wouldn't think that like would not like Ramsey Bolton be a Marlowe? That's what I was thinking. Ramsey Bolton is. To me, Danny is Marlow because everybody is kind of like underestimating not only her,
Starting point is 01:17:44 but they're not realizing that the game has changed. And it's like Danny's the only one who's realizing like, hey, yo, I got these fucking dragons. all that shit y'all talking about is fucking over. This is a fucking new way. And by the time all of them are fighting over the thought, it's too late. She done took over everything.
Starting point is 01:18:04 The only reason I think about Ramsey is Marlowe is because if you think about Winterfell as West Baltimore, right? Yeah. Like the whole, actually not Winterfell, like the whole north. Yeah. The whole north. The more established criminal organization in West Baltimore
Starting point is 01:18:19 and the wire was the bar Stardell organization. And the Barstale organization is trying to hold the towers. They're trying to hold the corners and all of that stuff. But there's something there that's motivated not by what was, but by what they think should be. Remember what Marlowe said? Marlowe said, man, Barksdale weak right now. Everybody else was still living off the name.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Marlowe was like Barksdale weak right now. And during that time, Ramsey and his father and Laura Bolton, they were. went, you know what, man? Like, the Stark's weak right now. We don't give a fuck about no thousand years before. We don't give a fuck about no 50,000 years, whatever the fuck is going. We don't give a fuck about none of that. They weak right now.
Starting point is 01:19:05 We can see it. They're not around. They fighting for that. We take their turf. Then, when Ramsey actually gets it, he's so ruthless. Yeah. He's so ruthless like Marlowe is. Marlowe was, remember when Marlowe, the girl played Marlowe?
Starting point is 01:19:22 and she was working with Avon and them. Balo walked up on a shot her twice. Once in each breast and the whole deal, like he was sending messages like that, and that's kind of how I'm doing with him. Who was John Snow? Bodie? Not Bodie.
Starting point is 01:19:40 Maybe it's Bodie. Okay, so let's think about. McNulty. Nah, it can't be known. Can't be McDonald's. Who's the solo kind of Avenger always going out there doing jobs by himself? But who is the...
Starting point is 01:19:54 You know who John Snow is? It's DeAngelo. Really? This can't be Rob. Nah. It's DeAngelo. I don't know. I can't be DeAngelo because DeAngelo was a little weak.
Starting point is 01:20:07 DeAngelo was a... Who is the John Snow of the Wire? Like, DeAngel was a... Maybe it can't be one of the cops. Maybe it's, um... Nah, it can't be one of the... It can be... No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:20:20 It can be... No, actually, the... reason why it might be McNulty is because like, McNulty is... But he's such a liar. He's a dick. He gets in his own way, though. But McNulty does know that the game is changing.
Starting point is 01:20:33 In terms of just like how the police need to operate. And he's trying to like... He's seeing it beforehand. He's like, yo, we need to move different. But he's just at complete cross purposes with who John is. He's such a liar.
Starting point is 01:20:44 But here's the thing. He doesn't know... McNulty and John are similar and they don't know... Like, they're right, but they don't know how to go about it. And that's what gets them fuck. And then they get sent to the wall. Yeah. To the boat.
Starting point is 01:20:57 The boat is the wall. I got to think about that. When I think about John, I think about a character that's so pure, not really for that world. But John was also strong. To me, he's not a leader. But he was strong. He's also, it's like, I think about it. There might not be a John Snow, but then I got to think about it.
Starting point is 01:21:15 That's actually a good one. Who is the John Snow? It's Presby, Samuel Tarley. You know what? Ooh. It could be Avon. John Snow? Is Avon?
Starting point is 01:21:25 Avon is the one, Avon, to me, is the most truthful character in the wire. Avon was, Avon, Avon is the one that looked at Stringer and went, yo, I,
Starting point is 01:21:41 you, you, you, for playing these away games. I'm just a regular gangster. I'm a regular nigger. I want my fucking corners. Avon was honorable,
Starting point is 01:21:50 he was truthful almost to a fault. Like, he gave back, here's a thing. Give him back to the hood when you destroying his God of that cross purposes, but he did have an honor. In terms of just like, hey, yo, we're not doing shit on Sunday. There's rules we respect. That almost makes them knit, though.
Starting point is 01:22:11 Yeah. Yeah. Because that leds to your downfall. Who's Omar? Tyrion. Tyrion could be Omar. I think Tyrion is Omar. Tyrion
Starting point is 01:22:20 Carian coming Tyrion coming Who's the Who's the character That's the best With the sword That I have to think about this
Starting point is 01:22:29 We got to do this Sorry Yeah Let's get back All right So I'm gonna do my nomination For the Baratheans I nominate Joffrey
Starting point is 01:22:39 Executing Ned Because I That's Here's the thing You didn't have to execute Of course not Right Like it sets
Starting point is 01:22:45 So many things in motion That set the whole Game of Thrones Yeah, like, Joprey could have just been, because if I'm remembering correctly, doesn't even Sersie be like, all right, we're going to work too much. Literally, everybody in the world is like, hey, you don't stop. Send to the fucking wall, right? I mean, that was the plan, right?
Starting point is 01:23:01 Hey, we're going to send him to the wall. It's all gravy. We figured it out. No problem. We all let it go. And then Joffrey is just like, actually. Kill him. Kill them in the street.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Fuck it. And then, like, we get the whole thing. So, yeah, I mean, in terms of like, crash outs have, like, the biggest effect on the story. That one, that's the biggest one. That's the biggest one. And what's your? That would be, oh, we're in the... We're in the...
Starting point is 01:23:21 Sorry. There's one that's gonna win this up. I didn't have the... This is the easiest one. It's the easiest one. It's an auto win. Yeah. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Sorry, we love it. Steve, yours is Stannis. Yes. Sacrifices is his daughter. When you took that one, I'm like, all, it is it. Yeah, that's it. It's up. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:37 He didn't gotta do Shrine like that. It's for no reason. Why did I do Shereen like that? For a prophecy? That was actually when I was kind of like, this is when it's like, I don't understand why prophecy dictates so much about this world.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Yo. And this is why it's always, like, it's why Stanis never going to be the man to me. Stanis the man is, I ain't doing that. Because he was mad at Robert, because Robert gave Renly Storm Sand. Right?
Starting point is 01:24:03 And he gave him Dragonstone. And he's like, yo, I should be the king of, I should be the Lord of Storm Zand. I'm the older brother. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And then you go out and you kill your daughter off, what, some like, fake little Lord prophecy? That's what you get.
Starting point is 01:24:17 That's why you're not the man. Of a hunch. That's why you're not the man. But we could all agree is Stan is killing his dog. Sorry, let's go. Let's get through this one quick. We have a wild card round. Let's just like, let's just go.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Rapid fire. I got a tie. I can't do it. I can't. It's a tie. It's a tie for your numb. Okay. One is the, these, these to me, one, okay, it's a tie.
Starting point is 01:24:36 It's like a one A and one B. Okay. The number one is the viper crashing out on the mound and getting themselves killed. Okay. So that's a, that's a great, that's the greatest crash out in the history has shown to me. That, that's a, that's a, That's the greatest crash out in the history. Didn't have to do it.
Starting point is 01:24:52 The viper crashing out on the mountain, getting themselves killed, you're there. That to me is the definition of a crash out. Here's the thing I knew once that motherfucker was twirling. Right. And I'm like, kill this motherfucker, bro. Finish the job. He's freaked out. He knows exactly what he's going to say.
Starting point is 01:25:11 He's sick of the bullshit. He's beat him. Like, I need you to, hey, up my shit. Everybody on the side of the side of the site. Please kill him. Hey, hey, this big motherfucker I've been running around
Starting point is 01:25:22 doing crazy shit for decades. Kill him. And he's like, all, hey, I got it. Hey, chill. Hey,
Starting point is 01:25:28 you think to her. You waited at her. And Trian is like, hey, take the fucking spear. Stabbing in his, kill him. Doesn't end up working.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Nope. My 1B is the entire, the entire fucking night's watch. executing John Snow killing crazy crazy
Starting point is 01:25:52 taking turns they ran a train on him with a blade Jesus that's nice I mean that's what happened fucking night's
Starting point is 01:26:00 killing John Snow that's the one they always hated Johnny they hated pretty little bitch because he came in was like the little kid
Starting point is 01:26:06 and then he got he was like the Lord Commander off like off what nothing I'll be mad too he was the best he was the best fire
Starting point is 01:26:12 John Snow but that's what I think but they don't see that John Snow was dealing with some idiots. And the problem is when you surrounded by idiots and you're trying to be like, hey, yo, can we just play this right? Can we just
Starting point is 01:26:24 like think of a little? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's why you can't get over your steeds in like, in situations. You're fucking over in prison. If you, if you've been dealing with some of like a room full of motherfuckers, every single time you write, they're like, dog, we got to get rid of it. Yeah, yeah. Because they're mad. They're wrong. They're just
Starting point is 01:26:40 that they're right. He's coming there. He teaches people how to fight. They're like, hey, and Tyrion tried to tell them. He just let you know, these guys learn. They didn't learn how to fight with no master at all, like special shit. They just, like, this is the first time they're learning this. Why don't you get up their ass a little bit? Teach him how to fight.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Like, teach him a little bit. And John was just, John just wasn't, he was the kid from the private school that actually went to the hood. And, you know, try to teach a nigga how to tie shoes. And West Philadelphia, you're born and raised. But that was a bit, I remember watching that. Like, God damn, how many times they're going to stab him? That's why all he had to do. have one dude stab him
Starting point is 01:27:19 the requisite amount of times. How many times are they going to stab John? Everybody got a lick. Does anybody have? Because right now, to me, the runaway is the viper. Does anybody have one that could beat the viper? I don't know if I could beat the viper, but Kristen Cole or killing
Starting point is 01:27:32 Drawfree Loudmouth at the, at Rainier and Lainor's wedding. Yeah. Oh, that's tough. Because not only is it like, because the homie was just like, oh, you know, I heard that you went, oh, girl had a little thing going on.
Starting point is 01:27:46 You can't let that, like, That can't get out because, you know, Rainier's purity in that world, like, that means something. But also, he was a lay near his lover. So it's a little phobic. It's a little phobic. That's a little phobic. Aphobic. It is.
Starting point is 01:27:59 That's an acrome. You can't do that. You can't do that. I don't think I have the highest of picks. But I had the hound in the bells as well where he chooses not to survive and just dies with his brother. I mean, you got a... That scene is so funny because... That's such a bad episode.
Starting point is 01:28:14 You're right. What's your name? Sersie is all this stairdice and they're looking at each other. They're like, oh, that don't mind me. No, excuse me. Just get it. Just get it off my past. Oh, oh, let me write my best.
Starting point is 01:28:25 I would simply dodge that. Anyway. So, silly. And Ramsey killing. Aaron Rogers is in an episode of TV. What? Oh, right. I forgot.
Starting point is 01:28:34 I was like, you got a crash out. Hey, Sherry and popped up on that bitch. I'm like, that's really. I was like, what the fuck you guys? We really had a moment. It's so funny because I was listening. I was watching that scene. I was like, God damn, that motherfucker
Starting point is 01:28:46 sound good, who the fuck is that? When you heard his voice, he was like, singing, I'm like, that motherfucker sound good. This guy that's got the math albums. This actor that they brought in his nigga could really sing. And then I saw his Ed Sheen. I was like, yo, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:29:01 What's going on, bro? Like, what are they doing? If they had to have a musician in the episode, who would you rather have been besides that year? A-Sap Rocky? I'm going to say,
Starting point is 01:29:12 A-Sat Rocky. Put Drac-A-Rockey there. A-Sat Rocky being that bitch. No, I need Justin. Give me a Justin Timberlake. Oh, that's funny. Hitting all the holes on a set. That's so, you can't trust the J-T. Wait, wait. Was Prince still alive during that?
Starting point is 01:29:27 I think he was lost in that shit? Might have been. Prince checked out like 17. Yeah. Can you imagine if Prince was our Game of Thrones, bro? That would be actually amazing. He'd do a three-season run. All right, let me go over our winners.
Starting point is 01:29:40 All right, so round one for the starts. We have Rob, Mary, and Talisa. How do you say her name? Talisa? Talisa. To listen. Inspiring the Red Wedding, Targaryens. We had Danny and all the bells,
Starting point is 01:29:50 round three with the Lannisters. Close race, but Tyrion, killing Tywin, edged out. The Barthians is Stan is sacrificing his daughter and for Wild Card Vans and nominee of the Viper. I think we did a pretty good job. I don't think we missed anything too major. I don't think we missed too many crashouts.
Starting point is 01:30:06 I mean, of course, there's some Ramsey Bolton crashouts. Kill his dad and brother. Killing his dad and brother, doing all this stuff. but some of these things are plans and machinations and all of that type of stuff like that. Maybe they're not traditional crashouts in that sense. All right, look, we're coming back next year.
Starting point is 01:30:26 Next week, our coverage of a night of the seven kingdom begins. Yep. I'm excited. The reviews have coming now. Yeah, people are liking it. I heard some people being like, and or and or I'm like, all right, let's not let just the show come out. Let us really like.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Yeah, let's watch it. All right, that's wrap. This week on the Ring of Verse feed. On Thursday, button mask continues their follow-off, their coverage of Fallout Season 2. Hey, check in with Ben Lindberg. I'm serious. Big, uh, big, doing a great fucking job on Fallout season two. It's a great season of TV.
Starting point is 01:30:58 Ben's doing a great job covering it. I have had a lot of fun. I hope to go back and do it again. There was one snafu one time, and Ben Lindberg sent messages up the flagpole not to bring me back. He sent you to the wall? There was one. He said, I was sent to the wall. by Lord Lindbergh
Starting point is 01:31:17 Lord Lindberg sent me to the wall We got crossed up one time And now I can't come back and do the show I'm still watching the show Just what a fucking fun of it I'm not even covering it anymore He's gonna once Lord Lindberg Raises his banners, you gotta come there
Starting point is 01:31:31 That's your lead's Lord Yeah, Linderc calls for aid You know I am I'm Ben's I'm Ben's the hound And then it's you standing off against Matt James. I'm Benz the Hound. That's fucking whack. Our producers today are
Starting point is 01:31:51 Hey! Yeah. Aleas Zinaris The award-winning Alleyer's Zanaris. Golden Globe winning producer of Goodhang with Amy Polar.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Alea, take a bow. We love you. Jade Whaley didn't win fucking shit. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Come on. Come on. And Jomey and Wynoron on social, Jay didn't win shit because she produced in higher learning.
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