The Ringer-Verse - What If Avengers: Infinity War Had an All-Black Cast? | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: February 7, 2025

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Welcome into the Ringerverse This is of course The Ringers Next is podcast feed For all things fandom We are Steve Darkett Almond the Builder and Tigger

of Things we are Jeremy the Explaner You've got questions He's got answers We are a Coke Baby Chuck the 24-carrier Closer aka the brunch

huddy We are old man van He of the receding Resergent Hairline I did those out of order But together We are known as

A Midnight Boys A-oo Sorry Chuck y'all Let's get the last introduction. I apologize for that. I fucked it up. Kerm is back there. The Midnight Collective. Jonathan, X-Man Kerma. He's going to redeem himself.

We also have Alea, S-O-B-Zanaris back there running the boards. Arjuna is in New Orleans. Still. He's still in New Orleans. You're about to be in New Orleans. I'm about to be in New Orleans as well. Steve has some things to say about him the last time. I hope Arjuna doesn't take it. Honestly, you know what?

This is the perfect time to bring it up since you're going at Steve for the last two podcasts. what the fuck is going on on your Twitter, man? What are you talking about? Oh, boy. I'm off Twitter, so I don't. Oh, boy. I got text about this.

You don't get, I'm off Twitter. Get the woke shit out of here. What the woke shit? I'm off Twitter. I know you, you know, anymore. It's what he does on Twitter? We're still, we're still on there. Bro, I got texts about it.

What happened? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Is that what you're talking about? Yes. Okay, so he's it. Explain it to the audience. So here's a deal.

Throw the tweet out. Throw the tweet up right now. So this is what we'll say to the audience. Taylor Swift has been a mainstay in culture for... Oh, this. 2000. Yeah, you know. You know.

I've never once in my life looked at Taylor Swift and gone, oh. But this one time, I was taking a back. I was taking a back. Motherfucker, it's February 4th. It's true. We're not even a week into Black History Month. How true?

Well, I mean, I could make an argument that saying that a white woman looks good is actually honoring Dr. King. Okay. Wow. He had, oh, man.

Okay. All right. Here's a thing. I never going off. There's a moratorium on us attacking Jomi for being a milk merchant. After that. After that,

that's tough. Okay, go back to the tweet. What did the tweet say? I've never been more disgusted. I'm disgusted with myself. Okay? That's what the tweet said. I,

I admit it. You're right. Everything you're saying is correct. You know what you also could have done. What? Nothing. Nothing at all. Nah.

Because if I do nothing, then that's letting the racist win. You know what I mean? I don't. Can you guys you guys a question? Let's just go around the room. Black man, have you ever slept with the white woman? Jomi, ever slept with the white woman? You're right.

Okay. We love our sisters. This is insane. Play the drums. Okay. Okay. Um, whatever, man. It's jokes.

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There's a Superman. There's another fantastic. Jurassic Park? Jurassic Park. Jurassic Park. Jurassic Park. Yeah. I'm probably going to get Thunderbolts and other Thunderbolts.

There's a lot coming. And frankly, stuff that we might not even anticipate. We've got a lot of surprises. Yeah, yeah. So we're going to be doing that on my day. Next Friday, Midnight Boys return with her instant reactions to Captain America, Brave New World. Um, high leverage movie. High leverage movie.

One might say. Yeah. High leverage movie. We'll give you honest, if we ever get the screening invitations. We'll give you honest feedback on that movie next Friday. But on today's show, we're doing it again. We're back in the saddle. Yeah.

The recast voice. Chuck, tell them what we got. All right. So this is our sequel to the black recast of Lord of the Rings, Fellowship of the Rings. We listened to all of the fans. Yeah. That we're telling us what movies we should do next.

And in honor Captain America, the new Cap 4, we decided to do Avengers Infinity War. Now, Black Recast, let's talk about the rules. We are recasting all white actors with black actors or actresses. Now, roles that were originally black open to any ethnicity? Yes. Okay. We have to set budget, director, where we're shooting.

We're going to do that quick, though. Quick. We can only spend 90 seconds on that. Real quick. We got to do it quick. We got to do it quick because we've got to get to the cast. And everybody has their own list for what black actors they think we should cast. We're going to quickly pitch our ideas.

Then after light debate, we make our decision. Let's get into our three big questions. Okay, real quick, just let everybody know. I'm doing this raw, unprotected. I have done no prep whatsoever. Those three, all three. It is insane. What are you talking about?

You want to repeat it? So once again, you guys are telling me. You're doing this raw, no prep? Okay, so you guys. Unprotected? Just real quick. Just real quick. Once again, woke bullshit.

Have any of the three of you ever had unprotected sex before? You've never had unprotected sex? Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Whoa. Whoa. No, no, no. Actually, time out.

You never took the top off? Time out. My parents watch this podcast now. This is getting cut 100%. Why? Why? What are you talking about? Sex positive podcast.

Your parents, your parents think that you're now out here fucking. They know. They smell the smells. Brother man. Brother man. You live in their house. It's not a conversation I want to have.

It's fine. You're such a liar, Jomey. You're not a conversation I want to have. So all I'm saying is, so then this is the thing then. If you don't want to have the conversation, don't start. When I say unprotected, just let it go. Because then I'm going to come back and ask you, I know you've gone unprotected before.

Steve, I know you've gone unprotected before. What is that you had a living? So you haven't used protection in like fucking four years. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You have flying back out on the streets. I'm wrapping it up. What is the world? Oh, my God.

One thing you told me when I moved to our leg, you're like, I told them there's some new type of diseases out here. But I'm telling you, but you know, I can't know. No. Just before we move on, before we move on, Mom, I'm sorry. Can we before we move on, before we move on,

because we do have to move on as a midnight tangent. It's actually, my generation is the generation of condoms. It's actually y'all's generation that is using condoms less and less and less. With ours, we were scared as shit. But let's be honest, some of the big diseases out there, they kind of got them under control.

And so for you guys, with all the therapeutics and all of this shit that you guys have, y'all stop using condoms. There's actual studies about this. This is true. Look that, Kerm, look that up. Condom uses. What's Kermen gonna do?

Because Kermenum is, I'm not looking at all the shit. What are we doing? Okay. Not on the company Wi-Fi. Let's just, I had a, okay. Let's just fucking start the goddamn podcast.

Before we get started, I thought that, you know, it is Black History Month. We're celebrating. Sure. Black culture. And I think it would be Uvahs to bestow some of that black culture to our, our friend here, Steve.

Oh. Black history, we got you a little, little sum of the. to throw it. Oh. Steve, go ahead and... Look like Nansen Pelosi out here. Yeah.

Let's go. You want to go, Steve? Get on one knee and... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Daniel Sonny. No, I'm not wearing that like that. Steve. This is how this is...

This is how you were doing? I know. But I want you to be a black warrior. And I want you to tie around your head like Rambo. Okay? Don't let him bully you into this. No. No, because I have my own sort of like...

Is he giving up reparations on the podcast right now? There better be some cash in there, my boy. It's something... All this is from the heart. Like, I wanted to kind of have a celebration of the friendship that I have with you guys. And give you guys some five words. I mean all of this. Just open the shit.

Because this is about to be a fucking disaster. Simply grateful. As we celebrate Black History Month, I want you to know how important not only your friendship, but your guidance and kindness has been to me. The Black story is not only one of oppression, but survival. Nigger, why is why should say in deepest sympathy? Through our conversations, you have opened my eyes to the beauty, strength, and resilience of black culture. Thank you for being a friend that challenges education and up lists all around you with love to speak. This is the most

Sactivist shit that has ever happened before Nah Steve, you my man I appreciate that Look at this shit 25 at Applebee's I will be taking a nice young lady There you go

You know out Half off apps What's the shit What they got? Oh my God They got two for 20 They got the rum buckets They got the rum buckets

They get the rum buckets Oh my God Sorry about all that Happy Black History Month Steve I'm fucking with it Steve All right man Get up for Steve.

Thank you. Thank you all. Oh, my days. All right, I'm going to take this off. Whoa. Whoa. That's on for the... See? This is what white people do.

He's all that. He's trying to take the fucking shit off. Jesus. You got to leave it on. All right. It's on. It's on. Thank you so much.

Just like the condoms should. Now, Charles, get us into it. All right. Run the show. We have the big questions. Let's do, like, let's get them out of the way. Budget.

The original budget. legit. Rumored for Infinity War, $325, 400 mil. They're not giving a Sneegro's 400 mil. I mean, well, 280. Good, locked in. 280?

I think 280 can be done. Yeah, because I was going to say $2.50. I think they could do $2. $2.80. Okay. Director. Easy. I have two.

Okay, go, Steve. Nia da Costa. Okay. Or Shaka King? It's Ryan Coogan. Mine was Ryan Cooplin. First of all, those are both great directors. Yeah.

Not going to guess, it's Ryan Couglin. I figured Cougler was too on the nose. He would have come up in the conversation anyway. No, you need someone. We've proven for this big of a movie, you need someone who's been there before, knows the system. Tyler Perry didn't get a call? You meant that to be a pejorative.

I'm serious. That was a diss. Because I assume we're filming in Atlanta. Show your list right now. You're going to meet Tyler one day. I'm telling you something. I'll keep playing with Tyler. You're going to meet Tyler one day and Tyler going to put you in your place.

All I'm saying is you're going to check you. We're filming in Atlanta. you know what I'm saying he got the big you know studio down we were it's not are we filming in Atlanta I think we should well so they filmed the other one motherfuckers in Atlanta yeah yeah yeah but half of all these movies if I'm gonna be real huh there's too much distractions in Atlanta for our for our brothers yeah all black wow see there's gonna be a whole second generation of the business out there on the opposite end we are a lot of sisters they're going to come up during that time.

You know what I'm saying? What? Yeah, because we want, yeah, that's why we shoot there. The local economy. We want the sisters to come up. And we also want them to, like, you know, come up for 18 years because a lot of these, they're going to bust back. You know what I'm saying?

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Let's see. We have four rounds, OG Avengers, New Avengers, the Guardians, villains, villains, and supporting. Round one, OG, Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Haw. Black Widow. Who wants to start with their Captain America? I'll start with mine. This was the easy... Okay.

What is your deal? No, no, no. I was like, this was my... Of all the things that I casted, this was least sure. Well, like, this was the easiest one for me. Captain America, Aldous Hodge. Hey.

I had oldest Hodge, too. I had all this Hodge, too. That, this is the easiest one for me. Okay. Yeah. Captain America, all this Hodge. And I feel like, honestly, similar to Chris Evans. because he's played superheroes before, I think he already kind of has been in that system,

knows the green screen shit, knows how to, has a certain type of gravitas. I like all the socks. He can be the rock, the serious grounded character that the MCU needs when the things get crazy, he can be the guy to say Avengers Assemble and have it mean something. I was on a big cross kick like a couple of weeks ago

and he crushes it. But who did you have? I had Boyega. Like, it didn't, it didn't, like, a hundred percent sing to me, but I was like, not American. Kind of, like, not American. Oh, yeah. Sure. We can't have, we unite.

Well, maybe not as Captain America, but. No, he's, I have Boyega somewhere. I also have Boiaga. But I was just like, ah, like, somewhere you get there. We don't have to go in order. It's fine. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let's go in order. Let's go in order.

Okay. Okay. All right. We'll, we'll do a reverse order here, Iron Man. This was the most difficult. one that I had to choose, and this is probably poisoned by the fact that I watched his new show Paradise. I had Sterling K. Brown.

Okay. Sterling K. Brown. I had Sterling K. Brown. You have two Sterling K. Browns. Interesting. I went older. I, or younger, sorry. I went, I went Boyega.

Interesting. I think that's too young. I think that's too young. I had a young actor there as well, but I feel like you need a little bit more maturity, gravitas. So I went for sauce. Here. I went for someone who can.

bring the bona fides in terms of the dramatics, but also ground the comedy. I went Jamie Fox. Ooh. Oh, it's actually... As Ironman. I like James. I think that leaves a little too heavy in the comedy.

Well, you got to think about the way to character. You got to think... I mean, he's best actor winner for Ray. Sure, of course. That wasn't very funny at all. No, of course. Nigger was blind. But it, you...

I think when you look at it, somebody who can ground you a little bit, who can be funny, who can be quippy, who has the charisma. I went Jamie Fox. So this isn't, I wasn't going to bring up Spider-Man until round two, but should we factor in whoever our Iron Man is who needs to have chemistry with our Spider-Man? It's Jamie Fox Sterling K. Brown. Yeah.

Who should be the Spider-Man? If it's between those guys, I think Jamie Fox. No, but what I'm asking is, you can't put any just- We'll get to it. We'll get to that. I got a pretty good Spider-Man in my book that can work with Sterling. And with Jamie, I think. I feel like for, if I'm thinking between Sterling and Jamie Fox,

I think Jamie more could encapsulate what Iron Man is, which is the backbone of the MCU. Now, I have Sterling K. Brown for another OG Avenger, by the way. I can see where he could also go. He was perfect for this to me. I actually know. Hulk? Yeah.

Okay. Sterling Kate Brown was perfect for Banner. So I think that also this is a soft pairing as well. Hulk and Iron Man, they actually do have to have a lot of good chemistry here. And I think with Sterling K. Brown, I had Morris Chestnut for Hulk. You had Morris Chestnut for Hulk? Yes. Way too sexy for Hulk.

Yes. Like, I had a chestnut. I know he's sexy, but like he could also. Has a sexy actor ever played Hulk? Hell not. Eric Banna? People don't like Eric Banner? Yeah.

He was sexy. But that was when, that was the last best. He, like, Chestnut is somewhere in here. Sure. That's a sexy-ass nerd. He's very handsome. I like Jamie Fox for Ironman and Sterling K. Brown for Old. I can take that.

I can take that. All right, let's do that. Okay. Then who's playing Thor? I have Winston Duke for Thor. So we already had him in. So here's the deal. I was watching Black Panther last night.

Mm-hmm. And I also had Winston Duke. for Thor until it was a knee-jerk right away for Thor. He's big. He's physical. He's funny. He's funny.

The whole nine. Until I thought about it for a while. Until I thought about it for a while. When I thought about it for a while, legitimately, Winston Duke for Thor was a slam dunk. Until I thought about it for a while. I thought about Thor as a hyper pretty boy because he screams Thor.

Because I watched him in Black Panther, But then I thought, who was an actor who could play Thor? And I had a lot of trouble casting it. I got myself out of Winston Duke. But I won't let you know, I'm on the same page as you. Sure. Does this actor have to be, well, they have to dye their hair block. I'm being dead tears.

No, no, no, they got to get the dreadlocks. They got to get the Dreelots. So it just look like Heimdahl basically? Whoa, I totally disagree. They got to be straightening, like, just luscious lots. So once I. I got really, really, really, really into it, I picked somebody and it's not a slam dunk at all.

I thought Tramante Rhodes and store. What was it? And for the, for the honest, what was he in? So the, so my thing was, and I spent, I spent way too long trying to figure out who throw would be. Oh, right, right, right, right. Because you want somebody who's like tall and imposing. Not as tall as you think, though.

Yeah, but, okay, but Chris has to six three. Is he? Yes. Oh. Right. See, this takes, this takes mine out of the... I mean, listen, Robert Dye Jr. had had platforms on. But that's what I'm saying, though.

You need somebody who's tall and, you know, can get big. Chris Thompson's already like a pretty swole dude, but like when he works out for Thor is nuts. It's insane, right? And so I think, at least for me, I wanted to have somebody who I could imagine in that role with that size. And I don't know if you guys were locked in. to ABC on Thursdays at 10 p.m. Pacific time. Alfred Enoch, he played West in How to Get Away or Murder. Six, four, he's an English guy.

He's going to have some accents. He's a little on the thin side, but I feel like with some Marvel sterolades. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I know Alfred Enoch. Yeah, he was in a... I think I've seen him a lot. As a kid. Oh.

We get him on some protein. We get them on the steroids. They're giving Chris Evans and them and Hugh Jackman. I mean, he's untested for me. I haven't, I really haven't seen him like that. See, I, here's a thing, he's a little too short. Too short. Because of the whole English, no, I'm talking about for my Thor,

from the English aspect of this, the like Shakespearean, I was like Boyega. Boyega could do it. Are we missing Aaron Pierce here? Aaron Pierce? Aaron Pierce? Excuse me. Because we can't put Aaron Pierre in everything.

Yes. Well, he didn't make our Lord of Rings movie. I thought he did. No, no, he didn't. He didn't, but he did. I wanted him for Legos, but he didn't make it. No. I mean, Aaron Pierre might be the.

Yeah, Aaron Pierce. I said Aaron Pierce. Fuck him. Aaron Pierre. Aaron Pierre, to me, if you, my, I had, I thought about Trevante Rhodes. Yeah. I said I didn't prep, but I obviously did prep in my minds. But I also thought Aaron Pierre could big, like, yeah, he could be your thought.

And he can, here's a thing. We need someone who's like, because all this can, like, get fucking jazz. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We know he can. Pierre can kind of like... That could be it. He could do it. I like Aaron.

Man. What's the height of Aaron Pierre? height of Aaron Pierre? Yeah. Oh, I think he's tall. He looks fucking huge. 6-3. Yeah.

All right. Then, yeah, he's in. All right, Aaron Pierre. So the only thing we have left is Hawkeye Black Widow. I thought Black Widow is honestly easy. Okay, so Zoe Kravitz. This is where I, this is where I'm bumping into other MCU roles. I actually have Tessa Thompson here.

As Black Widow? As Black Widow? Huh. You can't recast her, though, because she's already black in the MCU. What do you mean? I don't think you should be able to recast her. I guess we did with Sirling Key Brown, though. Yeah. Yeah.

We're going to be in, we're going to be bumping into quite a few. I had Joey, I had Joey, I guess, I had Joey Krivitz just because it's like when Scarlett Joe Hansen showed up in Iron Man 2. Just sleep back 2 a.m a.m.m.m.m. Who did you have for Black Widow then? I had Journey, uh, Somalette. I don't know. Smolette. Jernie Smolette.

That's good. Journey Smolette, really? She was in, she did, what he called it? Birds of Prey. So Tessa Thompson and other roles like that off the table? No. Not off the table, but I will say that it's one thing to cast Sirlin K. Brown, who is in Black Panther for a couple of scenes. It's another thing to take Valkyrie and then wholesale move her to another role?

Yeah, move her to another role. Okay. Because then we got to recals. I don't have that many, but like there's only one or two that I actually kind of want to entertain. But I'm fine with cutting Tessa for that idea. I'm going to make that argument one more time. Let's stay on Black Widow for a second. And let's get all of our Black Widow's out.

Who did you have for Blackwood? I had Testat Town. I had Journey. You had Journey. You had Journey. All right. Now, let's think about what Black Widow has to be. She has to be an assassin that's got some red in a ledger.

So she's got to be early 30s at least. She has to have some chemistry with Hawkeye and Cap. Has to have chemistry with Hawkeye and Cap. Has to be a seductress, some sort of. very flirty. And she has to play somebody that's tortured very, very well. Okay? So when you think about all of those people who are in that situation,

do you still like, who fit that criteria, she'd say, do you still like your picks? Yeah, I mean, it's easier to do the Catwoman Black Widow, like, one-to-one, right? I just feel like we've seen Zoe in a, like, not the same role, obviously, but a similar type thing and it's easy to pour her over. But I think, I don't know, I feel like

there's something, again, I like Birds of Prayer more than most people and I thought that Journey was good in that film and in that role. I don't mean, so I could see her as a black widow. Maybe, again, it's easier to see Zoe in that, but I just feel like it's too like for like.

Maybe I'm thinking it's just too easy. Maybe that's where I'm at. Maybe I'm psyched myself out. Can I counter with Naomi Harris? Naomi Harris, not bad. Yeah? Naomi Harris, not bad. No, but not bad. Okay.

I had Taylor Page. Okay. Taylor Page. Taylor Page. I had Taylor Page. Look, by the way, we haven't found our Black Widow yet. Sure. We got to keep.

Now, I want to let you guys know something. I would cast Nicole Bihari in every single. I knew this was coming. I would cast her in everything. I think she would be a perfect black widow, but for some reason, you guys hated on her during the Lord of Reins cast. I don't claim this.

And you're hating on her now. I don't claim this. By the way, in the back, if you guys have anybody that you think could be our black widow, I don't mind Nicole Bihari. Wait, I don't mind Nicole Bihari for Black Widow. You don't like it.

Why don't you like you? So in, in, how old is she right now? She's 40. 40? Yeah. She's 39 or 40. How old was Scarlet when she was in Iron Man, too? Her and she was probably.

No, she wasn't. She was not 25. She was 25. She was 25. So here's the thing. So Jomey is, so Scarlet Johanssen is how old? She was 24. Really?

Scarlet Johansson is, is 40 years old right now. And we're talking about Infinity War, Black Widow. And Nicole Bihari right now is 40 years old. They're the same age you hate black women. This is, this is what we're. We do to black women all the time. This is what we do the black women. They can't be young, beautiful.

They can't be the same. Are we? So if we're casting Infinity War, at the time that Infinity War came out, that was not the stipulation. Just make this up. Just make this up. It's so egregious, right? They're the exact same age.

They're like legitimately the same age. Why can Nicole Bihari be in this? Yeah. Like, why? If we're casting in 2009, sure. Right now it is 2025. I'm casting movie for 2040 for. that's going to start shooting in 2025,

now a movie that's going to start shooting in 2016, 2017. No, I mean, no, we're casting the movie of when the movie happened. Or we're just casting the movie, Joe, me, it's not that big, so if that's the, okay, if we're going to do the macro, then, Justice Smith was not in 1999 or 2001 when the movie came out. He was not the same guy he was.

Let's do a vote, Dan. Who's your vote? Who's my vote? Yes. I would vote Nicole. Steve? Or if we, if not Nicole, If you guys, if you guys don't want to cast Nicole in anything ever. I think it's between Nicole and Journey.

So Nicole, Journey. I mean, yeah, Journey is my pick. Steve. Nicole. I think I'm Nicole. You know what, Jomey, you go first for the next one. Who's your Hawkeye? Who's your Hawkeye?

William Jackson Harper. Locked in. Really? Okay. We can talk about it. I just don't. We can talk about it. No, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no. This is the way you do. Locked. Locked in. We can talk about who you. What do you guys have? Well, you were all. All Missouri.

William Jackson Harper is awesome. He's technically been in the MCU. William Jackson Harper is awesome. He was there for three seconds in Quantumania. I promise you nobody remembers. I like William Jackson Harper for Hulk as well, but Sterling Kay is better. Yeah.

See, for Hawkeye, I feel like you needed, well, I was about to be very mean. I was about to float Lakeith here. I was going to say, Shamee Moore. I got him later. I got him later. You got him.

No. Shamee Moore is obvious to me. I thought Shemique was, he's a hawk guy if I've ever seen one. But see, here's the thing about. Hawkeye though and the only thing about well Hawkeye's got to be a little bit of a hard that's a hard

ass assassin and William Jackson Harper is kind of like a more of a like comedic yeah quaint lighter lighter touch yeah I had Hawkeye as Jamie Hector Jamie Hector

oh my Marlow from the water oh oh no that's a lot Nah. I'm going to be like, yeah, well, Marlowe, what you do? Nah, because I can't look at Marlowe. Yeah, like, no, man.

No, man. I like that. I like that. Okay, because we're still trying to find our Harki. Okay, so you had Shameek. You had Shameek. Lakeith Stanfield. Lekeiths Stamfield isn't bad for a Hark Eye.

I don't think we've nailed it quite yet, though. I don't think we've got it, haven't nailed it quite yet. What about? I'll say that, like, Tyler James Williams. somebody thought about. Can he do assassin? Yeah.

I don't know. You watch Abbott Elementary. You got that boy with the guns out all the time. You know what I mean? You can do it. Do we have the John David Washington conversation here?

I think it works. I actually think John David Washington Hawkeye is actually the perfect role for him. I think it works. I wonder if we could get him to take it. But I think we could. I think we could. Okay.

OG Avenger? O.G. Danger. Hawkeye. John David Washington. It gets a lot to do in the next film. Yes.

John David. John David Washington and Hawkeye. All right. Wow. All right. Great. So before we go to round two, let's just recap Captain America.

Outis Hodge. Iron Man, Jamie Fox. Thor, Aaron Pierre. Hulk, Sterling K. Brown. Hawkeye, John David, Washington. Black Widow, Nicole Bihari. Now, for round two, these are the new Avengers.

We have Spider-Man, Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Scarlet Witch. Vision. Start with you, Steve. Spider-Man. Spider-Man, I have Caleb McLaughlin. Same.

Yeah. Okay. That was the only... That's the lay-up. It was the kind of, like, I know it's so obvious, but it's like... Yeah.

Now, I'll be honest with you. I had Chameek. I was going to go ahead and go to Shemika Bone here, but Caleb is perfect. Yeah. It works. Caleb works. All right.

So you got Caleb and Jamie Fox together. I think that's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's cinema right there. Yeah. Guys, I have a very controversial.

controversial You better not. Why will we recast Black Panther? Do we have to recast Black Panther? Yes, as a white character. Oh, that's right. As a white character.

Oh, that's great. As a white actor. Now, toss up between two here. You guys are going to think, this is a joke, but take it seriously because I think that this white actor has to embody everything about

whiteness, white boys, white culture. Yeah. I think Michael Seras, Black Panther Wow. See, now I had the same thought off the real. That's what? Wait, why not?

No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Michael Sarah is pretty great. Hold on. I was thinking the same thing. I was like, you had Michael Sarah? No, no, I don't have them, but like in my thought process, I'm like, ah, you know. If you were, if there was a secret.

Christopher Mintz-Plas, I'm like, there's a. Christopher Winston. That's not what I came down to. But Black Panther's got to be like, dash. and... Right. He's got a stoic. Michael, whoa, whoa.

Michael Sarah had a hose. Okay. I'm not... Whoa, whoa, whoa, Michael Sarah was cleaning up back in the day. Super bad era? And that's where,

and to your point, somebody who's dashing who's charismatic, somebody whose presence carries water when they enter a room, you feel something, right? That's why I went with

one of the greatest white men of our generation, Ryan Gosling's Black Panther. See, now... See, that's too easy. That's a little on the nose for me. Because people have all cast him in that respect.

That's easy, but I get it. I will say I literally rewatched drive, perfect movie last night. I'm gonna be honest. I didn't realize Oscar Isaac was in the movie. He was still on his way up. Yeah, he was on his way up. And he's really great.

And by the way, that was during the Oscar Isaac phase when you were like, well, who's that guy? And that's like Ex Machina. But I know, I forgot. It's a little bit before. No, it was at the same time. Drive is after X Machina. Is it?

Yeah. Okay. But I also forgot. Brian Krantzim is in the fucking movie. The movie has a fantastic guy. Albert Brooks. Yeah. So, like, the movie has a great cast.

I like Ryan Gosling as Black Panther, but is it too easy, especially as we just casted Caleb as Spider-Man? Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. You could, like, I was ready to open it up to the streets. Drive is...

I was wrong. Drive was before. X Machina. You know, I mean, Leo wouldn't take this role. Brad Pitt wouldn't take this role. They'd be too old. Those guys are old. Are we...

Is it mine? Go for it. Timmy. Timmy Shalamee. He's a little... He's small. He's small. And he would...

I mean, he comes from the Leo school. He's not taking this role either. He's small. What's it? Wait, who's the other white boy at a moment? Austin Butler? No. Other white boy.

Austin Butler is Black Panther. Fucking... Oh, that kind of cooks. Austin Butler? That's pretty great. Somebody photoshop. Austin Butler as Black Panther fucking cooks, bro.

Also, he played out of... Elvis and what you're call it play James Brown. What voice would he have? That's what I'm saying. He's going to be doing an African accent for five years. He's great. And that's what we need.

Oh, but in our universe, Black Panther is Scottish. Can I put something forward to the table here? I have a late, late wire from Malaya. Dylan O'Brien. Are we floating Dylan here? My nigger Dylan.

I'm perfect. I love Dylan. I like it. I like it. I like it. Dylan O'Brien. Dylan O'Brien. Dylan O'Brien is perfect as Black Panther.

I'm putting it in. I love Dylan O'Brien. God, you put it in. That's good. This here's good. This is also one or one or two holes away from like. Oh, Dylan. Oh, no.

Dylan's getting critical acclaim right now. For twin. Yeah. Also, for everybody who leaked it, fuck y'all. Yeah. But Dylan is, first of all, Dylan is a big time hardthrob. Dylan is a great.

Oh, yeah. Fantastic actor. Great guy. Charisma off the charts. Dylan O'Brien as black slash white panther works for me. So Dr. Strange then. You know who I had? Because this was one of my favorite TV shows as a child.

And he was the only black doctor on house. I had Omar Epps. Oh. Oh. Omar Eps is Dr. Strange. Because you need an asshole who's kind of like, like, like Omar Eps can do kind of like the. And he can bounce up.

off of Jamie Fox like that. You know who I had? I'm trying to get him in one of these movies. I had Donald Glover, man. I've got Donald Glover later. I got him later. We got him later. I had Donald Glover in this movie.

Yes, Dr. Strange. I got him later. Not for Dr. Strange. Okay, this is where I make my pitch for other MCU actors that have been featured this is going to be very on the nose. But I genuinely think that Chiaw for after Dr. Strange. I know that we can't. But like, I really thought of it.

I am taking it seriously. No, I think he's right. I think you're right in terms of, like, I get it. If he wasn't? If he wasn't, he'd be purported. Yeah. But we can't. He was being Dr. Schroen.

I get it. Yeah. So is Idris Elba, Dr. Strange? Maybe we did already, I mean, we cast him in the Lord of the Rings. You did cast him in the Lord of the Rings. I think, not Idris. No. Because think about what you need.

You need gravitas. You need seriousness. You need the whole deal. Omar is a legend. I don't think Omar is going to, work here. Is Damsom too young? Dancer's too young. So you need somebody that's between 45 and

50 to go with the whole source of the same thing. So, you know, dance is not going to work. This could be a Coleman Domingo situation. It could be. Maybe. I got him later. Is Coleman a little too old? A little bit. A little bit. I have a vision pick that could also be

Slot. Nah, he could do this. Now, let me ask you a question. Are we casting Jonathan Majors in anything that's in this movie? Hell no. Disney said they might cast them again? No, thank you. I'm telling you guys right now, you guys are being too hard on Jonathan Majors. Leave this in the podcast.

You guys are being too hard on Johnathan. All right. I'm serious. You guys are being too hard on Jonathan Majors. That's all I'm saying. Guys are being too hard on them. All right, but let's go back. Let's go back to it.

No love for Tyrese. Tyrese can't play you, Dr. Strang. I would love Tyrese. Oh, wow. Okay. What if I, okay, I'm going to save Tyrese for later. Saving Tyrese for later. So let's continue down the primrose path of casting Dr. Strange.

Daniel Kululia. Daniel Kulia, he works a little young, a little young for what we're doing here. Now, are we in this because there's a perfect actor to play it, Mahershala Ali. Now, here's the deal. Is Mahershala Ali Blade or not? He's a better blade to me than he is. I don't know. He's a-

But we haven't seen it. We've heard him. We haven't seen him. He is a good blade. But in our casting brains. But if we're going to Marvel, if we're casting this, we're going to like, look, you got nothing for him right now. Can we have him as Dr. Strange? I like it.

I do. But he is technically cast in the MCU. Yes. I might have to move on with it. They've taken it off the slate. I don't even know if a blade is such a. I'm going to be honest with you guys. You think they'll do it?

I think they might still make the movie. Really? I think they might still make the movie. I think if Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four work, they like, fuck it. To think that the possibility of the movie that comes after Secret Wars and Doomsday is Blade feels nuts. Michael Ely don't got the juice no more. Nah, it's not happening. I mean, he's a great actor.

He's got the juice, but I don't think he works for Dr. Strange anyway. This is harder than we thought. I mean, these are roles. These are actual roles. Like, let's keep trudging along. Winston can't be put here. No, that's young. No.

Doctor, it's strange how swole you are. Slamming people around. You're using the wrong type of magic. Okay, let's continue. Now, also remember, we don't want to go double up too many roles between our, but we do have Michael B. Jordan and other people like this available. Can I quickly divert to a vision pick that might fit into a doctor's real? We got to stay Dr. Strange.

Oh, no, no, but go ahead. You're, you're. So I'm going to just dip into vision just to bring this to Dr. Strange. I had David, David O yellowow as vision. I also think he could be a great strange. He's probably better as strange. He's probably better at Strange.

Probably better at Strange. Another person we casted already last time, does, uh, Réje Jean-Page work is Dr. Strange. No, he does not. Way too handsome. No, he does not. Handsome? Yeah.

Better to come from. But you need somebody that's more interesting looking. We know John Carlos Spazito's going to be in the new North America. Would he have worked in extraterrestrial? I would think that's too serious. I think John Carl would be interesting. John Carl would be interesting somewhere in here, but I think he's too, age aside, I think he's a bit too serious.

Like he's got to have like little barbs and jabs with Tony Stark. I think David can carry that. I think David will. I think he does. I think he does. He's kind of in the cheat. Can't pronounce the dude's name. We did, we're the same, we're in the same country, and I can't pronounce for Bob's name.

I think we should go with David. Yeah, we should go with David. Yeah, we should go with David. David? Because he's in that same Mordo, uh, mold, I think. Okay. Well, then I have no pick provision then. Who, oh, I have some picks for Scarlet Witch and Vision.

Okay. Oh, yeah. My Scarlet Witch, I'm going to go with Willow Smith. Wow. Oh, wow. I mean, not the bold pick here. Not a complete in a direction, but. Look, you know, when you, when you try to.

When you think about a character who can, or somebody who can portray Scarlet Witch and somebody who can, you know, deliver on the promise that the MCU has given us in Scarlet Witch, there's only one person that you can call Coco Jones. Why are you laughing? You're laughing as you make fun of. I'm not making fun of it. I just didn't feel like a popular pick. You know, I didn't think that y'all would rock with it. So I'm kind of just like, I'm going to let it fly. Why are you being so disrespectful?

I'm not being disrespectful. See, this is the second time you all done this. I need y'all to stop. It's ridiculous. Need y'all to stop. Not being disrespectful. I don't. Let me see.

What was? Did I not? Let me see the resume. Coco Jones can do it. What the hell is going on with Jome? He said Willow Smith is just a little different. Yeah. So I don't know what the taste.

I got Yara Shahidi. Yarr Shihiti is great. That was on my list. That was on my short list. That was on my short list. Yeah. I mean, again, I fucked it up with former past the MCU actors, I can Google and Bata Raw

here. Like, she could work as Scarlet Witch, but again, prominent and Loki. Nah, I mean, I think she can be cast, but like, it, um... Y'all are too much, she, she too bad to be playing Wanda. That's a diss. What? What? Like, Wanda is fucking beautiful. What are you talking about?

Elizabeth Olson. Here's the thing, bro. Oh, my God. Vision, don't got the juice for all that. He's a red robot. What? You think, you think, all right, whoever we cast, if it's Yarra, whoever we cast for Vision, got to have. So, I mean, I'm not saying it has to be Yarra.

Who else do we have at Scarlet Witch? Let's think about- I also had Kiki-Palmer. Kiki-Palmer could work. Kiki-Palmer could work at Scarlet Witch. We also had a suggestion from Alea and Dia Moore. Who? Dia Moore. India-More.

Yeah. India-more. Yeah. Yeah. I thought you said D-E-L-T. I thought you said D-E-L-T-L-A. India Moore. Because here's the thing, the reason I was thinking, potentially,

Eventually, Kiki, Kiki could do Wanda Vision. That's what I'm thinking. You can absolutely do Wanda Vich. You know, you need someone with rage. But could she do multiverse of madness? Yes. Yes. Yes, she can.

I can see her right now crawling out of that portal. I'm ridiculously high on Kiki after one of them days. Yeah. I think she could do dramatic. People forget she could do dramatic to. We forget. Yeah, she can do it all. I can get a witchy.

A witchy's a theoretical nature. Yeah. Kiki Palmer is Scarlet Witch. Congratulations, Kiki Palmer. Then who will we have his vision? All right. So. I got one.

Jay Ellis. Ah. I like not. I like that. Jay Ellis is a vision looking at all. Yeah. Jay Ellis. Oh, yeah.

Jay Ellis. Oh, no question. Ellis as vision. I'm putting all the homies in this fucking movie. Jay Ellis. Jay Ellis, that's easy. Ellis as vision. That's good.

Hell yeah. All right. So for our new event. Avengers. Okay. We have Caleb McLaughlin as Spider-Man, Dylan O'Brien as Black Panther, David O'Yellow. How do you say that last? A Yellow-O. A-Yol. As Dr. Strange, Kiki Palmer, Scarlet Witch, and Jay Ellis as Vision. Now, for round three, we have the Guardians. I didn't have someone for us. I could not think.

This is the easiest, man. Like, it's one of the first ones. Say it with me. Donald Glover. You need somebody. You need somebody who, who's dancing. dancing around, singing songs. I get it. As a scum, looks like a scumb bag, but has a heart of gold. Actually, I get it.

Also, community. Yeah. Yeah. I like Donald Glob. Do you ask someone? No, no, no, no, no. I was, I was thinking about maybe even J.L. This could have been Star Lord, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But Donald Glover I had for Dr. Strange. I like it, though. It works. That was a clearest day pick. Donald Glob. Now we get to Gamora. do we recast this is where I had Zoe Cravitz

As Gamoire? Yes Okay Do we Here's a thing I don't think we have to recast This is a black actress Yeah, but that's yeah We know she can't get blacker when she needs to

All right Okay, that's not all right Can we mean we were there We all we all saw it She's going through some tough shit with Amelia Perez You know She didn't do nothing wrong Yeah

It was it was Emilia Perez who said to things. Amelia Perez hate everybody. You gotta love it. I'm sorry, man. You gotta... The commitment to hate is something. And also the gall to be like, man, that was so long ago. Nika, this was 2022.

Yes. Yes, this was a year and a half. Wait, so we're not recasting Gamora. I don't have to. I just put the exercise I did it. This is where I had. We recasted Black Panther, though. Yeah, that's funny, though. Oh, right.

I forgot. Let's just do it. We're doing it. I had no one names here, but. Oh, then, give me, oh, Emma Stone. Oh, we were casting this white. Oh, we're recasting this white.

Okay. Oh, so if we were casting it white, that changes it. Okay, let's go. I had Olivia Cook from, Oh. Game of, or House of the Dragon. Okay. I think that that could work, but, you know,

where else you got? Oh, wait, and we're going interracial. This is perfect for Donald. Oh. And get the. face. I don't know if you listen to his music, but I mean, you guys listen to his music,

but I mean, you guys listen to me. You know. We don't have to re-litigate. You're not talking right now. Taylor Swift? Hell, my God. I say Taylor. I say Taylor.

No answer it. No, no. I sat on my tile. Interesting. Okay, so Gimorra then. Could Taylor Swift play this role? Oh, come on. How no.

Can I tell you, something right now? No, maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe not. Can I let y'all know something? If we put Donald Glover and Taylor Swift on the marquee together, that's tough. We going, we're going crazy.

Oh, wait, wait, wait. That's a billy. Wait, so we didn't. If we get the Swifties. But maybe that's a billy, but we were supposed to get this Mr. Mr. Smith, but we didn't. Phoebe Waller Bridge as Gomorrah. No.

That's not, that's not, Gimorra. Well, it's not more. She's too, she's too funny. She's. No, who's great. This looks great in making. up, Jennifer Lawrence. Brother, she's not doing that.

That's the mystique thing. That's the opposite. That's the opposite of... Think about it. Most dangerous woman in the universe. Kick, punch, kick, kick, kick, kick, punch, punch, kick. Emma Stone would never do this. No, she ain't.

Taylor wouldn't do it. I mean, we could get... Honestly, if we fucking around, we might as well just put Simi-Sweeney in there, just, you know. Okay, but are we... Little May December. What? okay. Now I'm saying, like, if we're just messing around, you know what I'm saying? You know

who has the face for this, actually? Anya Taylor Joy. Oh. It's actually money. It's actually perfect. She got the... That's it. That is good. That's a good pull. It's a great pull. All right. We want to do on a television? Well, wait. Now, what? Before we leave, before we do it, what about Anna de Armis?

I think that's the... She killed it in that fucking bomb. I'll vote Anya. I'll vote Anya over. Over. Okay. So, but we're casting Gomorra and Nebula. These two women can be our Gamora and our nebula. I think Ona could be a nebula.

Anya could definitely be nebula. Well, Nebula is white. So the character of Karen Gillian is white. It's a robot. All right. This is true. But it's played by a white woman. Yeah, that's true.

But the only difference between Vision is, and I got to say this about Vision, vision is a robot that could have chosen any race that he wanted to be. Okay. And Vision choked. Hold on for a second. Right. Vision is a robot. Okay.

Who, now, technically, Vision is the AI of Jarvis. Jarvis Ultron, Tony. And then Jarvis was white before. So maybe Vision sees himself as Jarvis. Well, hold on. You remember the end of Warner Vision. He had that turtleneck on. You know what I'm saying?

He was looking. Just saying. Not to you relitigate our Fantastic Warpod. Does Vision come? Do you think? Yeah, probably. He had to, right? They had two kids, so.

Like vibranium? I mean, he probably, I mean, he can create anything. Yeah. And the life from the lifestone. Yeah. Oh, it's the mindstone. Or the mindstone, excuse me. The mindstone can create sperm.

Probably. Maybe. I mean, what, you know what? They were created a whole thing. It's probably, you know, it's probably because, I mean, she got her power. She's creating his calm. So it's like a sea horse situation. No, I mean, I don't know.

I think. Maybe. I think that's what it is. I think she. Whatever. I think Vision. Whatever the Mindstone can, you know, envision, it can create. So he's giving himself a huge penis.

Yeah. Vision not playing around. So are we going with Anya Taylor, Joy for Gamora? Yeah, I can go with that. I think that's fine. I think that's great. All right. So you guys are going to kill me for my tracks?

I had Terry Cruz. I had Terry Cruz too. Oh, wow. I had Terry Cruz at first. Okay. Who did you have instead? Las Alonzo. Oh, hell not.

What if I brought back Winston Duke here? Winston Duke here. Duke is not bad here. Las Alonzo could be something else in here, though. But I think Terry Cruz, I want to, I think he could, he could do the comedy. He could do the comedy. He could do the comedy. He can't, Las not, Las don't, last Campbell club, but last not going to be as, you know.

But, okay, so no Terry Cruz for Dax? You know, I think, yeah, I think Terry's on the table. Terry's very much, like, that was my first pick, too. I was just like, maybe I overthought it. I think Terry Cruz as Drax playing, like, the. I can imagine him doing the little bit with being invisible by not being perceptible to the human eye. I think it would be funny. He spent a lot of years on Brooklyn 9-9-9 being funny.

Yeah. I think he could do it. Okay. So Tara Cruz? Yeah. All right. So let's do Rocket Raccoon and Groot together. Okay.

Who do we have? Because you guys, I think you need to open your minds and hearts to my duo. Okay. So we have to do Groot as white. Yes. Oh, I didn't have a white. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, we do, Vindezel.

Shoot. Yeah, Van Deals. All right, so I will tell you who I had for Groot originally. I think Rick Ross's group. Works so well. That's, like, like, Rick Ross's group is like, I am, white boy.

White boy. White boy. That's so funny. It'll be funny. It'll be funny if every time Groot, like, came on and like the little Maybach music Drop back that? Mayback music. I am grew.

Guardian's music. Guardian's music. But he has to be white. Okay. I want classic voice actors right here because I know Barry Cooper and Vin Diesel are huge megastars, but I think we've got to give a little shine to our, you know, animated voice actor people. So for Rocket Raccoon, I want with Phil Lamar.

Yeah, maybe. Very prolific. It's been in everything, basically, as Rocket Raccoon. And then this is a little bit more of a deep cut. But Groot, he was Captain America in the new Avengers, or Avengers As a Symbol, Sonic in Sonic Boom, Roger Craig Smith as a, as group. But that might not be huge names. But if you know, you know.

I had Ludacris as Rocket. Oh, wow. It's not bad. I had Chris Rock as Rocket. Chris Rock. I feel like Chris Rock has too noticeable in a voice where every single time Rocket would open. I'm like, that's Chris Rock. I mean, but also.

But think about the zebra from Madagascar. And I want that as my rocket? No. I kind of see it. I kind of hear it. I do. Could we do Chris Tucker as Rocket Records? Yes.

But remember, there's going to be some acting that goes into this too. Yeah. You think Chris Tucker can act? Yeah. Civil linings. Okay. Can Chris Tucker not act? He's not a fan.

Fantastic actor. I can, I have faith that he can deliver a rocket, raccoon. I think he can deliver a rocket, he can do rocket. Well, this thing, Bradley Cooper is kind of like, not, I don't want to say secretly because we never see him, because we do never see him, but like, he's kind of doing a different thing with Rocket, right? Like, when you, when you first heard the Rocket voice, we're like, that's Bradley Cooper. Kind of like, oh, they got Bradley Cooper do this voice.

Well, we didn't even, I had no fucking clues, Bradley Cooper. Right? Yeah. Yeah. It kind of doesn't make sense. So, I mean, if really think about it. like who who can we find

that can kind of mirror that you think who can come in and do something that we're kind of like we didn't know that we wanted the character to sound like this but now that it sounds like this we can't unhear it but also here's the thing this is the black recast so the accent

needs to be more of an accent that we own you know what I'm saying? Okay okay then what accent is it like deep south could be we could change rocket cultural thrust up yeah because I think we have to right so like I think our rocket should be like deep south southern like I mean the original sound for rocket is like cockney or something so okay so I say we take rocket to Atlanta and this is going to be off the wall

DC young five I'm not putting DC young five see now you act you are You missed the other one. That's Andre 300. Andre 3000 is Rocket. But first of all, shout out DC Young Fly, great performer. Shout out to the homeboy. Everybody down there, 85 South.

Andre 3,000 is Rocket works. I like that. What about Andre 3000? I like that. I think Andre 3000 is. Then who's going to be our group? I thought we already did Rick Ross. Oh, well, okay.

But we're doing it white. I still think Rick Ross is very funny. Rick Ross is group. That's very good. That's very funny. But it's not a recast. I'm just going to throw out John DiMaggio, legendary voice actor, voice of Jake the dog.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, guess what we doing? Shout out to the voice actors. That's not what we're doing. I get it. We ain't going to, he's a legend. Like, we ain't going to act like he's. Shout out to the voice actors. They didn't get put in the movie the first time,

and they're not making it in the movie this time. So are we doing Rick Ross or are we going somewhere else? If we want to put a white dude as Groot, then we got a dude. He got to have some bass in his voice. We got to do, like, Vinny, what's his face? Vinny. Vincent DiNofrio?

No, no, no, no, no, no. He could work. But Vinny, what's the white, the big, the guy who plays the heavy all the time? Vinny Jones. Vinny Jones. Vinny Jones. Vinny Jones.

Vinny Jones. No, I don't know Vinny Jones. No, I don't know who Vinny Jones. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, that guy. Yeah, Vinny Jones. Yeah, it's what are those dudes who you, like,

you see on screen, like, I know who that is. but you don't know his name. Vinny Jones. He played juggernaut in. Yeah. You know who? No, who I want, who was in? Who starred with Vinny Joe?

Nicholas Cage is who. Oh, fuck. It's not bad. Oh, that's good. Nicholas Cage. Hold on, hold on. Hold on. No, Ed Harris.

Ed Harris. Ed Harris. Eddie Jones. Vin Jones. Nicholas Cage or Rick Ross. Go ahead. Put Nicholas Cage in there. Nicholas Cage?

Nicholas Cage. Yeah. That's a, yeah, that's a good novelty. Yeah. Okay. All right, Nebula and Mantis. I'm fine with Anad Dehormis here with that. As Nebula.

As Nebula. That actually, I feel like that's a good. Same. Duo there. Then who are we having as Mantis? I have Janelle Monet. I like that. I like that.

As long as she's not. That's who I actually had, Jean-L Monet. As long as she's not doing Michael Jackson. That was tough. That was tough. You hate to see it. We hate to see it. She's fantastic.

I love you. Beautiful. Beautiful. beautiful woman, fantastic performing everything she's at. They've set her up to fail. This is the Michael Jackson situation. Timeout real quick. Are we Nebula? We're not,

Adidarmus, is not black? She's from Spain. Yeah, but is she black because it's a black recasting. Oh. Correct. Sorry, sorry. Yes, we were doing that. Take that out, so let's go back. So sorry. Backing it up.

Back up the truck. So Nebula. Nebula. Okay. I had, and this is, you probably, I think Zoe Kravitz has too much charisma for this, for this role. Zoe Kravitz has, what? Yeah, we're not, we're not doing, Zoe Kravitz has Nebue. That's what I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying. She, she's like, she's going to have someone. So, Pat. I put Taylor Russell in here, but I, you know, I don't, like, I've seen some of her work, but not extensively. I think for somebody to be, like, straight-laced and just, like, literally a roeastern. robot. I could see it, but I mean, she's just care what you guys think. Taylor Russell works. I think Taylor Page could work

here, too. I desperately think Taylor Page should be in the movie. Should be in this movie. I was thinking Issa Ray works too. Oh. I was thinking... Oh, yeah. I was thinking... Oh, yeah. She got a little bit of fun. He works too. Yeah. You do the more comedic shit can also get a little like in your business. But Nebula is not comedic. Oh, yeah, she is. She's dry. She's dry. She's dry. She's dry.

I like that. I like Taylor, but I can see Issa Rae. I'm willing to do Issa Ray. Yeah, I'm willing to-E-A-R-A-A. Let me see what Taylor Page has been in. Oh, man, Taylor Page is great. Oh, Zola. Zola.

Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it. Like, Taylor Page is great. Boogie. I like Taylor Page, actually. I really like Taylor Page, just in terms of, like, she can do attitude. She could do dry. She could do. Let's vote.

Taylor Page or Issa-ray? Where we don't say. Not too familiar with Taylor Page. Yeah. I guess I'll vote Issa then. Issa? You know what? I'm going to go, I'm almost trying to go with Star Power right here.

I'm going to go with Issa. I think of going to bring people into the theaters. We do actually. You got to think about the money. Okay. Issa, Issa works as Nebula. All right, we have round three. Our Guardians are Donald Glover's Star Lord, Any Taylor, Joy, Gamora,

Terry Cruz, Drach, 3,000 Rocket Raccoon, Nicholas Cage is group Issa Rae is a nebula Janelle Monet Mantis and for our final round for villains and supporting we have to do Thanos Lokey Nick Fury

For my Thanos He's already been brought up Once on this podcast I think we need to do Tyler Perry Okay Wow So I went I went Coleman Domingo

I'm voting for Tyler Perry I think if Tyler Perry is Thanos We just fucking keep his heads up so much I'm going for Tyler Perry and Stano Can you imagine all the Black Hollywood Trying to take down Tyler Perry, bro? They fucking already tried Like it's like it's like they already

They already tried And now that motherfucker got all the Infinity Stones Shout out to Louisiana Running Black Hollywood like we're supposed to Tyler Perry as Thanos I got it By the way I don't have Tyler Perry as Thanos I go one step further.

I got Medea as Stanis. All right now. All right. See? I got Medea as Thanos. Whoa. Bro, all of these heroes up against Madanos

given the Medea voice, the arrogant, never do. What did it bring you back to me? I'm already wearing a Tense cloth here, so I really can't contribute. I like Tala Perry and Stanos, though. I'm going to be real with you. I think we,

We would get butts in the scene. So here's the thing, right? Because I want to be upset. I want to be like, you guys are not taking this seriously. Like, let's be adults about this. Let's actually put our brains together, freak something out. But then I remember being in college and watching Gondor for the first time. And watching Tyler Perry act alongside Ben Affling going, Tadle Perry.

Tadipari, awesome in this movie? He's a good actor. Yeah, he's a really good. You know what I mean? Chahleperry, awesome with this movie? So y'all hate, like, he's a good actor. The jokes, the jokes write themselves, but I mean, like, if we, I mean, might as well. Tyler Perry of Thanos.

Oh, wow. Okay. Who did you have? Who did you have? This is where I put myershala. Because, again, like, technically, not in a Marvel movie yet. Yeah, he works, but we're going with TP, baby. We're going, we're going to shoot.

And we're about to get more out of the budget. Uh-huh. Because we're going to be shooting on them style stages. That's what I said. Oh, right. Oh, hey. We can give us a discount.

Come on, in your neighborhood. Now, I didn't, I could not think of an actor for Loki. I did. I do. This is where I had Shameek.

Oh, wow. Be serious. All right. Be serious. I got one. I got one for Loki. Okay.

I think this is where you use Lekeith. Personally, I think this is the spot for him. Lakeith has Loki. Lakeith has Loki. Lekeith is Loki. I had Damsen Idris.

The British, another Shakespeare type guy. I don't know if he has the trickster that, like, Lekeith has. I think Lekeith is perfect. He essentially played Loki in Judas and the Black Messiah. Wow. All right. Well, then that means if we got a recast Hawkeye, correct? Because we have him as Hawkeye.

Was he Hawkeye? Did we put him as Hawkeye? No, John David Washington. Oh, no. Oh, then, yeah, put him as Loki. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Loki.

He's great Loki. All right. Then last but not least, Nick Ferry. I'm excited for this one. To me, I had Billy Bob Thornton. Russell Crow. I like both of these. This is where I had Ed Harris.

Oh, shit. I think Billy Bob Thorne is, I think. All three of these are great. I think Billy Bob Thorne is your Nick Fury. God damn it. No, Ed Harris is so cool. I like Ed Harris, but. Shout out from Malia says J.K. Simmons, but technically in a Marvel movie as well.

He has Joe Joe Jonas Jameson. We know him is Jay Jonah. Yeah, that's Jay Jones. I like Billy Bob. I really like Billy Bob. He says he done this kind of role before in somewhere? I think he brings. I mean, Fargo, maybe, but like that's not.

I think he brings the, I have you guys, the whole nine. I think he brings the, and he brings the cool. Billy Bob Thorne is essentially the white Samuel L. Jackson. He is. He kind of, he kind of is the white Samuel L. Jackson. Oh, I was about to, I thought he was way older than, he only. 69. He could do this. Yeah. He could do this. Okay, so I'm thinking of his role in Armageddon.

Oh, an Armageddon? Bringing the team together. Right, right, right, right. I mean, being that, that guy. Yeah, Ed Harris got this, though. Man, I like, I mean, that was my, Ed Harris, my opinion. And Harris, to me, is a little too serious to the world. And he's 74. Yeah. That's fair. Any love for Russell Crowe here? No. Fuck, no. All right. All right, Billy Bob. Billy Bob. All right. So, we're going to go down all the rounds.

Captain America, Aldous Hodge, Ironman, Jimmy Fox, Thor, Aaron Pierre, Hulk, Sterling K. Brown, Hawkeye, John David Washington, Black Widow, Nicole Biharie, Spider-Man, Spider-Man, Dr. Strange, David O'Yote. How do you say, is it? Oh, yellow. My bad. They took our, they cut us off from my history. Damn. We'll even know how to say our own names, man. Jay Ellis, Star Lord Donald Glover, Zamora, Anya Taylor, Joy.

Say Brax Taylor. Say your first name? Ola-wo Jomi was you. Jesus Christ, not even close. Oh, no. Olua Jomi-Lu-Lu-Lu-Lu. No. Only was Jomi-Lu-Lu.

Olu-Wa-Jomi-Lu. I said that. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. Olu-Wah-Jomi-Lu. That's what I said it first. Oli-W-Jol-M-O-Ju. See, Oli-W-Jol-O-Lu-O-Lu.

O-Lu-W-W-Jomi-Jomi. Jomi-M-M-Ju. Lo-Ju. That's the nigger. You said Oli, Oluwa. Jomi loji. Olu, Olo, Olo, Olo, Olo, Olo, Olo, Olo. Olo was Yomi Luzio?

Olo was Jomi Luzu? That wasn't bad. Olo was Jomi Luzu. You're trying and that's all that. Well, first of all, you have to factor in my accent. Your accent, yeah. So Olo. What accent?

Like, the fact that I'm from Louisiana, you know, whatever, Olu Jomi Laju, that's, I know. It's off from our history, then. They did. They cut us off from. You know, they cut us off on my hair. To finish, Tracks is Terry Cruz, Rock your Roon, Andre 3000,

Groot, Nicholas Cage, Nebula, Isaree, Mantis Janamone, Thanos, Tyler Perry, Loki, Leakee, Stanfield, Nick Fury, Billy Bob Thornton. How do we think we did? I think we actually did really well. I mean, I think the single best casting

is Thanos as Tyler Perry. Yeah, man. I think it's a sneaky, good decision. I think it's a sneaky. I can't wait. You laugh about it, but then think about it. Think about it. You laugh about it.

Honestly, after that Atlanta episode, having Star Lord is Donald Glover, that actually is crazy. First Tyler Perry is. Think about that scene where they're about to have the gauntlet off. Oh, man. Yeah, that actually works.

I think that's a sneaky good cast. And I think the best characters are Captain America. I like Rocker Raccoon. And I think Star Lord is Donald Glover. You guys made me see. Black Panther. That's a slam dunk. Historic.

Shout out of a legend. That's a story. Dylan. So what's Black Panthers? I was about to do something. All right. If he's Black Panther, it was white,

like, what's his salute? I was about to make it. Let's not play with that. Make that Elon Musk jokes. All right. So before we wrap up, please, for the love of God, delete that from the internet.

No, Ele, leave it in. Don't delete my shit. Don't delete these niggas shit. Don't delete my shit. This shit is funny. My heart will go out to you. Your heart will go out to being a Nazi, nigga.

Okay. God damn. I'm sorry, I apologize. Now, we can't do this many more times this year because we are running out of black actors. Yeah. Which says a lot about Hollywood. I almost want to make movies.

And every single movie just cast 10 to 15 black actresses in the movie because we're looking for black actresses that have had a lot of opportunities and had a lot of roles when we're looking at casting this stuff. And, like, they're... Also, non-lawful. white-skinned black women. Oh, dude, it was impossible. Like, trying to find, like...

It was impossible. Dark-skinned black women who have gotten the chance to, like, lead movies and be in movies. Like, I was like, Hollywood, you should be ashamed. And so, you know, I'm saying when you're looking at all of these different roles, you're seeing people at various stages of their career who have upside, have had a couple movies that have bombed and came back from them or whatever. But, like, when we're doing this, we're really seeing that they almost, they cut the game off at 15, 20 people that really, really, really can do this.

And then the bench don't be as deep as it needs to be. So we just got to... But if we... For movies that we would do next, if we go around, what's your dream movie? We got to do Star Wars. We got to do Star Wars. And Star Wars is not as many roles to cast.

Yeah. I mean, we could... Sneaky hard, though. Sneaky hard. I mean, what we could do is just open it up. You know, we usually try to do, like, one specific movie. But if we did, like, sequel, prequel, or... original trilogy sequel,

and, like, just took the main characters out of those and then did, like, just a full, uh, Star Wars black recast. Also, you know what I think?

I think we should open up the black recast for Star Wars especially. All black actors and actresses throughout time. You know what I'm saying? So we can get, like, we're like,

we're casting Star Wars, but we can start getting in different people. Okay, no, but this is, this is interesting because what we could do is we could, do the original trilogy from that time period, do the prequels from that time period,

the sequels cast with the actors of that time period when they were released. So 2000s actors for the prequels, 70s actors for the original. Or in other words, exactly what Jomi just said. Why are you translating for Jome? You got the Kente cloth on? Can we relax on Steve?

I think we should do The Godfather, but the only thing is they're still playing in Italian. The God nigga. God nigga. The God nigga. You know what I'm saying? You like it? Just go ahead and laugh.

You can laugh. It's the amount that Charles laughed at it. It's the laugh at it. That's funny. The God nigga. Set that bitch in Harlem. We also got to do Dark Night. We've got to do Dark Night.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That'll be fun. I mean, there's a lot in Dark Night. Like, really? Like, Batman, Gordon. uh what's uh rachel joker who the fuck gonna play rachel

sonal a lathan hallie berry shit y'all be up here y'all know the reference yeah yeah they didn't give a fuck who played rachel so we shouldn't give a fucking hey hey hey i'm maggie jillenhall slander here casting anybody in that bitch uh yo yo

See? Oh, by the way, Jake Gyllenhaal would have been, I know he was already... Oh, that's a good Black Panther. He'd have been a sneaky good Black Panther, too. Yeah. Yeah, Jake Jillenhaal, Jake, J.K.G. Now, we got a lot of, a lot of the ideas, like, agreed. Like, it's tough.

I put, like, unnecessary parameters of myself, and I was literally up all night. Like, man, young black actresses under 40 dark scanning. It was like... That's what you were looking up, man, man, then they? How yeah, Jome. Hell yeah. Jomey tried to act like he was looking at young black actresses, dark skin for this thing. Jomi was gooned out last night.

He didn't make it like... That's what's crazy. Like, Jome was gooned out. You had a goon marathon last night in your parents' house, but you like... But you're not. You're not going to hit it raw on it? You're no raw, but you can goon it. I know you only use condoms when you goon it.

It used to be niggas in Baton Rouge that would do that. What? Yeah. Jack off into a condom. It's disgusting. They would talk about it. at school. You're like, I got a condom. I'm like, what are you doing that for? What's the point? These guys out there that notice that they jack off into a condom. Now we know that Jomey is one of them.

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Chuck take us out. Jomi loves an easy cleanup. Van thinks Taylor Swift is cute. Long live, the black recast. I am grew. Huh? Beem-hoo! Should we rename this podcast?

Like, our podcast? Like, the Midnight Boys podcast? Why? What makes you say that? Like, I just, I think that there's a better name. I've been thinking about it. Okay. Than the Midnight Boys?

Than the Midnight Boys? Yeah. Do you have one? Mm-hmm. What is it? Journey to Nigger Town. Okay. Okay.

I don't know why I expected anything. See, no, it's, it was like, it was, I got that, like, 30 seconds ahead of you, we're like, no, he's going to say something. It's the beam of, it's the beam of, uh, what's, uh, what's Jason Bateman in the best development. Oh, yeah. I don't know what I expected. Yeah. You, you see the thing, dead bird in there opening it. I don't know what I thought I expected. I don't know what I expected. Exactly. All right. Great. Awesome.