The Ringer-Verse - ‘X-Men ’97’ Season 2 Premiere Instant Reactions | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: July 2, 2026

The Boys are back, and they’re ready to talk all things ‘X-Men ’97’! They dive into how Season 2 of the highly anticipated show has started off and discuss what we might expect from the rest of it. (0:00) Intro (5:04) Spoilers ahead (7:05) ‘X-Men ’97’ Season 2 premiere reactions (1:03:48) Outro Hosts: Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Producers: Aleya Zenieris, Devon Baroldi, Jacob Cornett, and Jamie Yukich Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell New 2k+ doorbells, coming to your front door Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Don't tell them. Don't let them have all the fun. Yeah. you know, make sure you go to the right parties. Some people are doing. But don't let them have all the fun. You got a skin in the game in this motherfucker. Also, can I just say, yo, shout out to all my Mexicans, bro.

They was showing out yesterday. Man, wow. Yeah. I was in New York. You thought they won. I was in New York. And they have right next to the, in Hudson Yards, they have a big TV. I obviously got to be honest with you guys about something.

Now, me and you. you have had fun the World Cup. We went to Santa Monica Pier and we watched World Cup game. It's very fun. Extremely fun. I have to say this. What's up?

New York is doing the World Cup better than Los Angeles is. The city is different. Meaning the city is a more walkable city. They're more common areas and all of that stuff. To me, there's more sports bars where it's like you could get packed out.

You could just like... You go and you're walking around places in New York and just at random and you're just hearing people fucking screaming. It was people kicking around little soccer ball. and shit like that. The shit was awesome.

But the Mexican fans were going crazy last night, like watching the game on the big thing in the middle of Hudson Yards. Like, where other than you? I'm not going to lie. By the time it did get to 10 p.m. And I was still here at fire or something.

I'm like, all right, guys, we got work tomorrow. It's right. All right. Come on. That was going crazy. I was at a bar. And, man, Mexico would have the ball,

like, in the office. And everybody would just start going crazy regardless. When they scored, it, it was deafening. Game ends. I put this up on my Twitter. The game ends. Everybody's had a good time.

I'm literally outside the bar, bro, across the street fireworks. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. The place was lit, man. Did you see the video from Mexico City? Yeah. Oh, my God. Phenomenal. They haven't won in how long they haven't won a World Cup game?

They've never won a World Cup. They've never won a World Cup. They've won a World Cup game. No, no, no. Like, what's the last time? An elimination game, I think? A knockout stage. It's been a long time.

It's been a minute. It's been a minute. It's like 40 years or something like that. So shout out to Viva La Rasa to all of our Mexican brothers and sisters, man. Viva. Viva La Mexico, or way. Viaia, Viaya, Mexico. Okay.

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Oh, yeah. Critically acclaimed, really well-loved, first season for X-Men 97. Really a new era in X-Men storytelling? X-Men 97, season two, is upon us and we will delve into that

today as the Midnight Boys. But before we do that, you have to spoil stuff, which means you have to warn you about it, Steve. We're getting ready to talk about X-Men. You're listening to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are a

comment. All right, this is a three episode drop. And to get us through what is happening in these first three, Chuck Wagon is going to give you the Midnight Manifest. Take it away, Chuck. All right, this is your Midnight Manifest for X-Men 97 Season 2. The X men are divided across two timelines. The main team, Wolverine, Cyclops, Gene Storm, Morph are sent to the Days of Future Past timeline, where Apocalypse reigns supreme. Meanwhile, the Encelerator team, Professor X, Magneto, Nightcrawler, Rogue, Beast, are sent to ancient Egypt, where Ns, where N-Sacholitan. Sabanur is gaining power against Kang the Conqueror. Forge and Bishop build a time machine to get to the 90s X-Men back before they mess with too much of the time stream. Forge goes to the future, Bishop to the past. With the X-Men gone in the present, cable recruits Archangel, Cylock, Jubilee, and Sunspots

his new X-Force team. With the government funding its own mutant team called X-Factor, Jubilee must step up to keep both them and her new team in check. Meanwhile, in the future, Cyclops of Dean, distrust Mother Asconi was hell-bent on helping Nathan Summers realizes potential as a mutant Messiah destined to take down apocalypse once and for all. In the past, Magneto and Professor X argue over the ethical dilemma of trying to change their president by influencing N Sabineur in the past by episodes end.

The 90s X-Men have all gone back to their time. Even with it, on shaky ground, that has been your midnight manifest for X-Men 97, season 2, premiere. Throwing it back to you, Van. Thoughts on the return of X-Men 97? I think these episodes are really good. I think they were fun. I think

I love this era of the X-Men The timeline stuff Mother Oskiney, Rishal Summers All that stuff is always some of my favorite stuff Because you guys know I'm a big cable hand Love fucking cable. I come from the era where cable drops And cable is that motherfucker

Cable, cable, X-Force X-Force cable. Wait, really quick, this reminds me of a question I had Because I don't know this trivia When did Nathan Summers Get the cable name? Like who bestowed cable on him. Is it a code name or is it his actual name? Like, I am Cable. Like, what was that moment?

That's a good question. I really don't know. Like, when he was introduced, Ask Cable, because he was a new mutant first, I think, and then that becomes X-Force. Or maybe he comes in and makes the new mutants X-Fort. The mutant's become X-Fords, but maybe they become X-Force after they meet Cable. I don't remember how it goes. No, because it was new mutants and then it gets canceled and then it gets rebooted into X-Force. But Cable was never in the new mutants, wasn't he? Cable's origin. It was in the mutin's

undecided. Yeah. Yeah. And he was assumed to be a separate character, but it was later decided that he was an older version of Nathan and time traveling. By the time I come to Cable, because that might be like 89 or something. Like, what's cable? When did the Cable first?

90. 90. 90. Okay. So by the time I come to Cable, it's probably, probably a year, two years after that. It's probably 91, 92 that I'm really getting into a lot of that other stuff. So by the time I came on, by the time Cable was in my. world, I knew him to be Nathan Somers.

So the math is in 86 when they gave us Nathan Summers, she was just Nathan Summers, and then they've made a cable in the 90s, and then eventually they just... No, because I know that history. I'm just wondering, why cable? Like, who gave him the name? Like, he went around... Oh, why is his name cable? Yeah.

Oh, I don't know. It's kind of cool, though. Cable. It's a nigga Cable. It's kind of weird how, like, there's nothing cable about it. Yeah, you know what I'm just like... He doesn't work with cables. You gotta be honest.

Cable kind of hard. That name is hard as fuck. Should we call Rob? It is the same as like a nigga being called like Modum or something. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds like a, sounds like a great resource. Yeah, like yeah, we call Rob.

Like Rob, Rob is a fan of the Midnight Boys. Rob is a, Rob is a fan of this culture. Rob is also not a LeBron guy. Have you seen some of Rob? Yeah. He was hired of you and him. You pop a champagne, man. I've been popping any champagne.

I appreciate what LeBron did. Let's not get sidetracked. I'm not popping any champagne, but Lucas team, let's see what happens. For the next year and a half, he's here until he gets out. Yeah. But, but yeah, so big, huge, huge, one of the biggest,

never really had the Wolverine moment insofar as he breaks containment of comic books to me and becomes like a huge general character. But for a comic book fan, for comic book fans at that point,

Cable, at the time that he was hot, was as big of an X-Men as there was. Yeah. As X-Man as that was for me. Because they were kind of rising at the same time. Deadpool,

they're rising on. Deadpool does sort of break-contain a little bit, but not really. The movie kind of more did it for Deadpool later on. No, but I remember

my era of X-Men comics, Cable and Deadpool was a huge comic. Huge. Yeah. Like those two, because they kind of got dusted all for like the 2000s, 2010s, and then after that, Deadpool

just took off. Right. Like, I had the Stryfe's, strike file book, which, you know, Cable had the Stryfe, like, all that stuff like that. I'm sure people are wondering where we all think, but I think people are really wondering what you think of these first three episodes. This is, yeah, this is the baited breath. Please. Tell us how you feel.

It was true. It was a car too. I was like, all right, work. Expert 97 back. Was it, what, like, last year, it was a revelation. People really loved it. You weren't as high on Is there anything that changed this year that makes you like it more or less? Can you see the difference in like how they're approaching it? I would say with this season two, I was surprised.

And it makes sense with this storyline. I was like, oh, this is some deep X-Men shit. Where Joe Vee was talking about it before we got on, where I was like, oh, not only are we getting to the apocalypse of it all. We going back. We got insomnia. We got the apocalypse shit. Kang the Conqueror.

King the Conqueror. But then we also have a very 90s idea or book, which was X Factor. Not the original, but the Peter David one. He actually had two. So it's like, between X Factor, between X-Force, they had some like, not the new mutants, but the new X-Men. Like, there was dust in this shit, Anoli in this shit. I was like, oh, y'all digs.

Yeah. But, honestly, that's kind of how the first season was, too. The first season was moving through. No, no, no, no. The first season was getting, I was like, oh, shit, we already here. It was moving quickly, but you're familiar with these characters. You know who these people are for the most part. I'm looking at episode two.

There was Quentin. I'm like, I'm like, what? I know that's Palarus. I know that's Havoc. That's another's strong guy. Who's that? I love those characters. Exfactor.

I love those quack. Those quirky ex-factors. Madrox. What's the movie? Yeah. All of those people. How excited were you when they changed the intro to X Factor? It's cool.

I thought it was awesome. Like, they're actually having fun with this. But I like the fact that this world is as dense as it is. That's all I'm saying. Oh, yeah, I don't mind that. I think that's like, to your point, that's a credit to the show. They're not babying you. They're throwing you into the deep end.

And so as the story is progressing and you're learning about how like, for example, and, or sorry, cut that. Wait, is that not a spoiler? Yeah, that's a spoiler. But I don't want to spoil that. Don't want to spoil that. People are, people, you don't want to spoil that.

Because you're watching this show that don't know that. A lot of people. Believe it. Believe it. Wait, I'm being real. But who's watching, who's watching X-Men 90s?

It's possible. It's possible, but I want to, I want to be, I want to be kind. I mean, that's fine. I want to be kind, right?

But when, when they go back and Cyclops and Gene, they hadn't told Nathan that they were, that that was their father, or that they were their parents, right? Cool, mom, like,

it's a cool, moment. You know, they don't hold your hand with all this, like, relationship stuff and who these characters are. They just throw you into that already, like, either you would it or you're not. And I think, to a credit of the show, it works. It's great. I enjoyed these first few episodes. I thought the Jubilee episode was, you know, not the same, but, you know, that's how it goes. I don't want to get on my X-Force shit. I will say, not my X-Force. The minute Jubilee was out, I was like, cable, come on. What is your team lineup of X-Force that you were in there? Well, I think my favorite X-Force run was the

Recremenor Run, where it was Wolverine Deadpool, Silock, really? Archangel, and Phantom X. The X-Force that my X-Force was Domino, Richter, Cable.

Yeah, okay. Cannonball. Sunspot. Sunspot. Like that that was mine. No, no, they did a really class. This was actually a really classic lineup. But when they put Jubilee, I was like, come on, Jubilee. not an X-Works. Come on. Come on.

Yeah. Okay. So in these first three episodes, the pace of the, the pomp and circumstance of the show is the same. It's a show that takes itself seriously. Yeah. That's a cool thing about the X-Men, right?

Even the first one, it takes itself seriously. It doesn't have Gambit. Gambit's gone. Gambit was something in the first three episodes that was in the first season. It was very important for, like, lightening it up a little bit. and like kind of sexy in the show up.

This is a little bit more earnest in the first three episodes. What we're seeing in this particular timeline is very serious. It's hard to have a lot of fun with it. The stakes are very, very high in terms of like who's going to deliver the one-liners and stuff like that.

Yet and still, I still think this show has been able to express the DNA of what makes the X-Men great better than almost any X-Man property that has existed. in the last 30 years. And these movies have been really good at times.

They have. Been really good at times. But it seems like the essence of X-Man is reflected in this show as well as it is in anything else that they've ever played out. I just feel like the movies are like a, I don't know to say like sanitized,

but it's very, it's for everybody, right? It's very like for all four quadrants of people to enjoy. And they've been good movies. Absolutely been good movies. This one is for, is for the nerds, right? This is for people. You can enjoy it if you're not,

I has locked in because the storytelling is so good. I like a lot of the action that they do in this show. But if you're really locked in, there's no way you don't love this stuff. Yeah. And it's really the testament to how good animated shows can be because this really affords you a lot of plot leeway to really explore how deep the rabbit hole goes with some of the X-Men lore and how it still is able to play with itself even today.

Like they're still tweaking X-Force lineups a little bit. They're giving everybody alternate costumes. They're making everybody have, classic looks and revamp looks. And it really is kind of a evolution of season one where we haven't seen these characters since

like the original show that had been like 30 years now on. And now this is kind of a thing where okay, we can actually kind of go deeper into this world and really kind of show you what the X-Men are actually about. Question for you guys. I came up with this thing. Too much, too little.

In these first episode, the first three episodes, for you guys, whoever wants to talk. What was there too much of? What was there too little of? Too little Magneto. Too little Magneto.

I wouldn't say too much plot because these episodes kind of have to move, but these episodes are all entirely plot focused, I would like to say. Three different timelines in the future. The three different timelines was, it was funny because I was like,

oh, I get why you guys drop three episodes at the same time because I was like, this can't be the whole season in terms of just having the X-Men split up. I was very, very worried that they were going to have one team in the future, one team in the past, and I'm like, you guys need to get them together again.

And it seems like through three episodes, it's like, okay, we're doing the apocalypse stuff. There was a part one, we'll probably get a part two. And I'm assuming the season, and I'm hoping, will reorient with them back in the 90s. I mean, they, a lot of the gags and there's,

like, to your point, there's not really funny, but a bunch of the gags are, we got to go back to the 90s. To the 1990s. We got to get back to 1997. I'm like,

all right, guys, we get it. But for me, the show in the first season, what's at his best when Magneto was cooking, right?

Like the scene where he's at the, um, the U.N. or when, uh, near the end of the season where he, like, goes up his base and like turns off all the nutrition,

like, all that stuff. Like, the way they write. write him is different and unique to how to how they write everybody else. And so I, there's a lot more season left. But these first year episodes, I was kind of like, damn, man, kind of, kind of miss my guy. He was kind of, he was kind of the star in the first season.

Well, Apocalypse is a wholly different villain than Magneto. Apocalypse is a grander villain, a more, I guess, Magneto being, how can I put this? Magneto mutant terrorists with a very direct set of politics Apocalypse feels like more than a human thing like a it spans time it feels like Apocalypse feels like an entity

and not an actual villain which is a little bit more difficult to make like as foreboding and compelling as Magneto I have a theory on this across superheroes I feel like you have your you have philosophy villains and then you have forces of nature right to me Apocalypse is in the same category as like a dark side or a king where it's like a force of nature it's time it's hell it's something like that where magneto dr doom joker these are like what is your philosophy like it's

like the opposite of the hero and to me what makes apocalypse such a fascinating villain but sometimes a hard villain to adapt is like adapting a force of nature is really really difficult and i think this episode did a good job with Magneto trying to coach up Apocalypse because I kept being like, damn, if this was the old Magneto, he'd be like, man, fuck you. I'll kill you myself. Like, you were trying to, like, it was so funny seeing Magneto

trying to like comments, I'm a door down. He's like, hey, eh, eh. You want me to kill my first master? What you say is so, like, so awesome. It's so well said because, like, the, when you're talking about, like, Apocalypse or Dark Side, they come as these hurricanes. Yeah.

And they change everything. Come as they appear as these hurricanes. They come as the one, I apologize. So they change everything. And like even this world, it's almost like living in the wreckage of this gigantic natural disaster. Whereas like Lex Luther or the Joker or whatever, they don't, they don't kind of do that. Yeah. It's really.

It's a one-on-one type of deal. And they have to get their shit out. It's almost as if the hygings that they pull. are just conduits to them being able to tell people why they did them. If Batman, if Batman wasn't around, the Joker would not exist, but Darkside's existing,

whether Superdead, like, he's eviling. Because he has to find an anti-life equation, and that's bigger. And the only reason why he's running a file of Superman is because the anti-life equation is on Earth. And Superman is a protector of the Earth. So it wouldn't matter who it was here. We are actually lucky that there is a Superman

because it wasn't. Because if it wasn't. You know what I mean? It's kind of the same thing with Apocalypse, which to your point does make it, it translates a little bit different when you're watching it. So what I'm looking for at the end of this, because I've been rereading a lot of like House of X powers to 10,

and I like Jonathan Hickman, where Jonathan Hickman gets apocalypse, where almost like what he wants is, even though he's a force of nature, what he wants is similar to Magneto, where it is like he believes in mutant supremacy just from the fact of evolution. Like, we are meant to inherit the Earth

because it's, like, strong conquers. And, like, they start getting there. And, but we only got it with Enzabinor. And I really, really want to see it with, like, the classic apocalypse, gray face, big as the fucking Hulk. I do want kind of them. I do want the dumb shit

where the X-Men are fighting big apocalypse. I mean, they did a thing, like, you know, we kind of, we don't really see Apocalypse in episode one. Like, we do, but not, like, the big version he's like in that little whatever cocoon thing and then in episode three there's the shadow

when he wants to kill that guy and he's like covered in smoke and you see the shadow of the apocalypse we all know but then it guts when he comes out of it he looks like M-Sah manure for you guys who like read these comics and lived in these comics how do you think for like the first three episodes

they got off the ground with this character I like seeing the original horseman or like the horsemen like jab and the horsemen are weird dude Like those first ones were kind of weird. They were. No, the first horsemen were weird, but also it's very funny how like, dog, all the X-Men at this point have been horsemen.

Right. When you look at it as like Wolverine, Angel, Gambit. All of them. They've all been horsemen. Every single one has, like, had time with Apocalypse being like, hey, yo, you need a new death. Yeah. But, like, when I saw them, I actually had forgotten about, like, those guys for a second.

I think it's, like, pestilins. Pessalist and the Confederate jab guy and all that. So it was cool to see them because one thing that I love about X-Men 97 you guys have talked about this is like the X-Men comics are weird. Yeah.

They're the there were the weirdo contingent, at least for me, not obscure, two different things, not obscure, but they were weird. It was the weirdo contingent of people that weren't doing the whole Captain America incredible whole thing like that big big posters and stuff like this

it was like these people want to fuck each other you have like Silak being Betsy Braddock but also like revanchet did she have a British accent in this I thought this episode did Seidelok because I was waiting for Seilock

I was just like but that's a white British woman in the body of a Japanese woman so I thought she did in the X-Force episode I thought she had a British accent and I was like I don't I don't like that but like all of this is all of this stuff is odd and this show is a little quirky and it goes at the odd

it's a little, because of what they're doing right now, it is a little otter a little bit more out there than the first season was. The first season was like there was more on the screen, but it was kind of a little bit more. It was snappier. The first scene of X-Men 97,

the first season of X-Men 97 has a sizzle that this season doesn't quite have yet. Do you think part of that is like that first season almost there's a grandiosity of, and like a statement of intent where that season felt very much more

kind of hammering home the mutant as other kind of themes, the mutant as race or queer, all of these things, where this season is fully leaning into the comic book aspect. Now, why do you think

that was so well executed in the first season? Okay. And it might not be... Do we want to save that for when we talked about the Vanity Fair? Like we can, but the question is that specific feeling was really well executed in the first season. And it's something that they're not even really trying to do right now.

Right. And that's because, obviously, both de Mayo is not. We can save that when we talk about the vanity fair. But everyone's going to ask the question, has there been a drop-off or has there been a narrative shift from the first season to the second season? Because the creative lead of the show is no longer on the show. I will say this through these first episode, three-eastern, episodes, they are leaning more into the Saturday morning cartoon element to me, but they're still leaning into the X-Men.

It's just a different thing where it's like, and I think it's happening in X-Men comics right now, the X-Men eras that we remember the most and mean the most of people usually are the ones that balance all of the societal issues very, very well and do something revolutionary with that. And then after you have those eras, you usually get an era where they're like, all right, the X-Men are superheroes again, and they're just for comics, and we're going to get really, really nerdy.

And I think this is them doing that. Why? If you think about, like, I brought up Hickman. If you think about what's happening in the Hick, what was happening with Kerkowa, House of X powers a 10, and you look at what's happening with the X-Men now in Marvel, it is very much, man, fuck, all of those fucking mutants fucking each other

and all of these heady concepts of Magneto being in Israel and bringing the Kakros seed and what does that mean? They're like, no, no, no, no, no. We just give you comics. They did that with like Grant Morrison and then everything that happened after Grant Morrison's run.

To me, it's weird that the show was kind of mirroring the comics where it's like, all right, we hit you with all the race allegories. Now it's about like fans services. What I think? I mean, I think that both of those things can still work.

Like I don't I certainly don't think the Hickman stuff is very adaptable Right it's difficult I think it's I think they're gonna do that in probably the third of four season It's like they're gonna try but let me tell you something That motherfucker is just about the best writer I've ever read right yeah like he's like he's in this shit He has only a couple of peers you guys and that stuff I don't mean to cut some bottom But like that that he only has a couple of peers That stuff would be Incredibly difficult to me to reflect in another meaning

and we'll see how they do it. In animation? Right. Well, you need pages upon pages of... They would have said the same thing about the Morrison run, and we've seen from promotional images that they're using... They've already used stuff, whether it was the Genosha from last season. Their quitting choir is like little cameos where I'm like,

I remember when Grant Morrison came out, people were like, the X-Men are wearing fucking leather, and it's drawn by Frank Quightly, and it's all fucking weird. And now it's going to be, like, adapted into X-Lex... Like, I would have never thought that that would be adapted when I was a kid. Because that was the weirdo shit. You guys are convincing me slowly and slowly because I love Hickman's Fantastic Four. Like, that's what am I, like, my all-time favorites.

I love the Fesford. I love Hickman. I love that story. I got to get this, I got expense this Hickman. Hickman's X-Men run. Wait, you got to rock in? Oh. I'm not like, when I, I didn't start starting to buy comics until, like, I was, what, like.

Now, you got to tap him, bro. It's post-pandemic. Spider-Man, I got into because I, like I mentioned before, I love the Spada First Joint. I used to, like, watch that comics-explane video all the time. So, like, I got into those comics, and then I got into the Fantastic Four Hickman stuff. That's awesome.

That's the Future Foundation, all that stuff was amazing. All that stuff. Love it. Franklin and Victoria, great. I got to tap in Arjuna. You're going to get this expensive report for me later. I got to lock in. It sounds amazing.

Yeah, I'm not saying, what I'm saying is, in a 30 minute it's a lot. These episodes though to be like are deads. They cover a lot like the apocalypse history

and lore because like what's interesting about these three episodes I think I've already touched on this they're pulling from so many eras of apocalypse history

like we just didn't go straight to age of apocalypse apocalypse first shows up in X factor when it's all of the original X-Men and he kind of has this mystery about him, and then they add on the Egyptian stuff

and the N. Sabinor's stuff. And then a couple years later, you get the, oh, age of apocalypse timeline. This is what happens with all the Nathan Summer shit. So to me, part of the point of the X-Men a little bit is to get this confusing, is to have all of these timelines converging, where it's like, if you really try to write out

everything that happens in this episode, you'll be like, what the fuck is that's what this show has done well in its two seasons to me is take this like really really

wide birth of characters, lores and storylines and like almost make X-Men episode mixtapes they're almost

mixtapes in the way they feel is like they taking songs off different Gizi albums and making a greatest hit but it flows together, right? It's like the art of making a good mixtape is gone

now because motherfucking shout out to Spotify, man because y'all, y'all make the playlist and the playlist and shits is great. Oh yeah, yes, yeah. I told you, man. Spotify, where it's at? But you used to have to do it yourself. It was like, there's a point. And you have to make it good. There was an art. And these shows are

kind of like that. And they maintain their narrative quality throughout the entire thing, even if they have too much forge. Also what I'm thinking about in these episodes. You're too much too much. That's why I can I wouldn't say there's a bit too much. I was, I don't know about too much forge, but I'm a lot of forge, dog. I'm hating.

I fuck, I fuck, I fuck with. Forge sucks. Forge sucks. Thank you. What's going to say? What? And if I'm going to be honest, and I'm going to be honest, I've never liked, I've never liked Storm and Forge together.

If we rank in Storm's boyfriends, that's the weakest one. He's pretty much on the bottom. So, okay, Storm's boyfriends. Is Black Panther number one? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Who's two?

Will we? I've always. thought Wolverine and Storm was a little force because I'm like, we really know he's thirsty for the strawberry ice cream. You know what I'm saying? He's only going to storm when he's rejected. Right, exactly. And Storm is never seconded because Storm way better than Gino.

Hell no. I mean, yeah. That's not how they write it, but we know how we're here. Yeah. This nigga, like, this nigga Forge, he could. I just thought of it. I was hate on forge, bro. I didn't go lie.

I never liked it. I watched the episode. I'm like, bro. When I'm watching the episode, like, he's shooting up, I'm like, what the fuck he gonna do? Yeah. Are you gonna build something? That's it?

But also, can you? Like, you're fighting the thing. They're gonna swack them out. Can you imagine? Like, between Bishop and Forge, they're like, damn, we got stuck with Ford's saying for this. Damn, niggins. Like, Bishop, he don't even introduce himself.

He just starts, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Y'all ready? Yeah. You know storms there? Of course I'm going to the future. What I thought was interesting about this, and we have Spider-Man, at this point, we know Gene Gray up in that, that, bitch.

I do think it is interesting to have Cyclops and Gene as the emotional core of this series. And I'm hoping that they do the same thing with the MCU movies, where for so many years, Wolverine, Hugh

Jackman, and then Deadpool cast such a shadow. All the stuff with Scott, Jean, and Nathan to me really, really worked in this. And I'm like, yeah, if you orient this work, around the Summers family, there's just so much soap opera intrigue.

So I don't disagree. I will say this. It is a different undertaking to make the ageless guy with knives coming out of his fucking, the anti-hero with knives coming out of his hands to make him the hero. That's the passive police resistance. Scott and Gene are so easy to make corny dog.

That is true. When you get them right? You get them right? It's incredible. When you get them. You don't think they got them right in this? Yeah. Like, Cyclops is on the fucking come up because

Cyclops, Cyclops and Leonardo. A lot of people gave me a lot of Leonardo stuff to read because I think a lot of people looked at Cyclops and Leonardo from the Ninja Turtles. Oh, right. Yeah. No, Leonardo's awesome.

Yeah, looked at them. Leonardo, that y'all got a cool Leonardo. The Leonardo that we got was yes, man. I was sticking a buzz. I know. I know. I know. I know that.

What we got was yes, Master Splinter. Like that's the one that we got. And I think taking these characters that are like sort of these extensions of Splinter or Professor Xavier and all of this stuff and making them into guys that are a little bit more like, what do I need to do? Do I need to be? I think it's awesome. Gene consistently in these movies was a fucking drag and it's just fucking true. And so like to take those characters and we'll see what a brand new day has, if it's Gene, to take those characters and make them compelling enough to not have. have their love story and their trauma weigh everything down.

Like, oh my gosh, he's going to turn into the Phoenix. What happens now? Like, you know, all of that stuff. If they, if they nail it, then it'll be better than anything. It'll be better than Wolverine. I agree, but I think it's harder. Do you, like, how do you do it? Like, they do it, basically like they do it.

Make sidewalks kind of the badass. But I'm trying to, it's all about the actor. Oh, that's true. Where love James Marsden. James Marsden at that point in his career was not the right cyclop. I thought he nailed him. No?

Really? I mean, he nailed what they portrayed Cyclops as. But he was still kind of a wet blanket. Like Hugh Jackman was running circles around. Like, the whole joke in those early movies was look at this lame fucking boy scout.

I'm like Hugh Jackman. It took me forever again. Somebody who wasn't reading X-Men as a kid. I'm watching movies. I'm like, this guy sucks. Cyclops is black. It's not until, what do you call it?

I start getting X-Men. I watch what's called X-Men Evolution, this show talking to Kerr. Like, no, this guy, Cyclops, he's a real one. He holds it down. Like, that's the real-related. He also changed the way they wrote him. But he always was kind of fuckboy, to your honest with you. Yes.

Like, he, like, oh, Cyclops, like, Cyclops, like, Cycloths throw the dick around. Like, he always, like, everybody's throwing around the same. I mean, we mentioned it. All the X-Men got all types of bodies. Cyclops roster is crazy. But it's also he do got a fetish for the, Teletatat.

Telepaths. Gene, Lallin-Pryor, Emma Fras. Like, Syclaus was doing, Saucl was doing a lot of shit. It's crazy to fuck on the clone. And then Lee, like, it just... Wait, Steve. Yes.

You had some messiness you wanted to talk about. Right. Well, that's pretty much my favorite part of the X-Men. It's really the interpersonal drama and the messiness. So I have my four favorite best X-Men, X-Men, X-Mess. Messiest things that happened in 97. Okay, cool. And this is mostly from the first season, but I had to...

I watched the first season back again, and I realized how crazy some of these moments have been. I want to tell you guys what you think of this. Morph being Logan's rebound after striking out from Gene Gray. Love it. Demon. Love it. Like, for both of them. Morph made the move.

Morph, honestly, like, as a mate, shout out to Primuth, Morp is ideally what you want. Yeah. In the sense of... You know what the fuck I'm talking about. If you fucking morph, you're fucking everybody. Yeah, but what did What did, what did he say During

First Class Now I want the real you You know That's what Magneto told Mystique Oh yeah, yeah Yeah, I want the real I don't care about that All right I got another one

Cyclops baby mama being the clone of his wife And his wife getting mad about raising the baby Love that That was great That's classic X-Men bullshit That's cinema right there That specific scene where they're having that moment in Scott's head and Gene Sessing and G like hey hey get out of me get out of my house what you are going on in here why is she here he's like yo that's my baby Baba I don't know what to tell you we gotta talk and she was mad oh what else hilarious

Calcy looking at Professor X and calling Earth a Milky Way ghetto oh yeah Milky Way ghetto is crazy that's crazy yeah and my number one is rogue twerking on Magneto in front of Gambit the night they brought up See, that's by far the number one. That's so, that was crazy. That's insane. The Roe Magneto Gambit shit from the first season. Gambit, if we want to be real, is the cuck of the X-Men. Oh, man. You don't gotta do that.

Do Louisiana like that, bro. Come on. Am I wrong? I mean, a little bit. You're not wrong, but it's not nice to say. You don't love to hear. You don't want to hear that. I can't, I can't sugar.

He's like, come on, bro. He's a good guy. Shit, man, don't talk like that. Don't talk like that. Don't do us like that. Don't say that. Shit of you. All right.

Well, let's just have the conversation now. All right. So let's see it up. In a very sad... Sometimes I do love... I do love fucking media best. You know they dropped this. They like, ooh, they was waiting on the X-Men 97.

It's literally the day that it drops. Because then in Vanity Fair, there was a piece by Chris Murphy titled... Wonderkind showrunner was put in charge of Marvel's X-Men 97, and then something went terribly wrong. It basically tells the story of how this writer-reporter had a couple, I believe, like three or four, maybe five conversations with Baudameo after he was fired or let go from Marvel. The creator, it basically kind of tells the story of how he got his start not only as a screenwriter, but got his start moving up through the ranks of Disney.

and then Marvel Entertainment. And then, I will say the thorny and complicated mess of allegations made about him from various people who are working on X-Men 97, getting let go by HR, everything that happened with social media,

and then also Bo de Mayo's, I would say, pivot now from being someone who posted on only fans, not as frequently, but had one, had told Disney. And then now, he has pivoted into being a full adult performer. Right.

Let me ask you guys a question. In reading this entire thing, what was your impression about the set of circumstances that led to Bo DeMeo's firing from this show? Was, did you get, first of all, was your intellectual appetite for, or curiosity, for whatever happened here, satiated? Do you feel like you'd know why?

Boz de Mayo was like... There was no new information. There was nothing like a revelatory opening that we haven't like either heard or seen in regards to like why specifically he was fired. Right? Either from like the video that he did

that got up on YouTube or like any of the reports or anything. There was nothing like, there was no singular or even like multiple pieces of new information. It was more to your point of like background information of like where he came from like and the moment of his firing.

But there was no new information of why he got let go. And I think the thing that struck me in that piece was really the portrait of like fear that Bo was under after he got fired, regardless of whether or not his presumed innocence or guilt was illustrated properly in the article. It's more about the fact that like he is constantly trying to advocate for himself both pervasively online and through his adult content. and that just makes it like it makes me feel like he's kind of digging his own grave a bit in the industry

because he already knows that he's cooked in a weird way I think that was kind of the only like salacious thing that stood out and then from like as the substance of whether or not he was justified in his firing it still remains in litigation I'll just be honest with you I want to know what happened and I'll tell you why

number one, there's not ever going to be a world that I live in where I am one of the people that someone makes an allegation. I'm like, they lie. They're trying to take down a powerful person or something like that. I don't move like that, right? Like what I will say, though, is when something comes out, I would like to look at it and make for the decision of myself, make the decision for myself, should I say,

about how I look at this public figure or this person, whomever it is. Sometimes you get that because it plays out in a legal situation. And you get to decide from the evidence that's put forth in a legal situation to whether or not you believe it. Like you get to decide, like right now, even though he was acquitted, whether or not you believe that O.J. Simpson killed Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown system. You get to make that decision, right, because you saw everything. Like when you're dealing in public figures, that's kind of what you've got to live on. You have to live on that.

Because if not, let me tell you what you have. If not what you have as a guy that acted, some people say weirdly. right some people say weirdly he was up people were trying to tell him the article says people trying to tell him your only fans and all of this stuff is whatever whatever you think weird is whatever weird for the like however right and he's gone off the show well you know that's happened before like all types of tweets and different shit was unearthed by james gun and this a lot of this stuff i don't give a fuck what nobody say this shit is fucking weird right now it was a right right wing hit job for people to bring that out about james gun that is true but a lot of

of the stuff that was unearthed in those times, that type of shit, saying that type of shit was like legitimately, legitimately like what the fuck is going on here, right? James Gunn has people that work with him and around him, advocate for him. He comes back. James Gun is fine now. That's cool. I have no problem with that. All the information is right there for you to be able to see it.

For me personally, though, like in a lot of these situations, not just with Bo Jemail, I would like to know what happened. I don't want anybody who was a victim to have to, like, come out and out themselves. or tell their story, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying, though, if they had to take him off of this and now he gets put in the corner by the town, after creating something that so many people beloved, I think it's kind of fair for people to know

exactly what the fuck went on and whether or not this is more about Bo de Mayo sort of acting in a way that people think is inappropriate or if he actually harmed people. I think I say what you mean in the sense of when people, he made a show people of. and he did a bad thing. A lot of people get second chances,

a lot of people get to... Well, we'll even know the bad thing... That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying is we don't even get an opportunity to make the determination about how bad the bad thing was. I assume that it was a bad thing, and I get it and I understand that,

and I'm not saying that there's no there there. I'm just saying, what is everybody being so cagey about? I, I mean, that's someone who's like, I've never was... I've reported on stories like this before you have as well, being in the newsroom, I kind of understood what was happening in this piece,

which is like, it is very telling that Beau de Mayo was very forthright and forthcoming in the immediate, after he got let go, fired, whatever you want to call it, and had his lawyer there, and then went radio silent. Yeah. What I think, I think two, three things can be true. If a black queer man

is telling you that he was working in a situation that felt unsafe where there were microaggressions or there was racism or homophobia. I tend to agree the... I tend to not agree, but listen to the individual over the company just because it's just like if you are black in a white institution, especially an institution like Disney with their history of race, hey, yo, that institution is not going to be perfect. I think something else can be true, which was,

hey, the X-Men are culturally our ownership of the X-Men, we put a lot of the shit on it, where it's like black people have a specific relationship with the X-Men. The queer community has a specific relationship with the X-Men. But at the end of the day, they are owned by a corporate entity called Disney. So I wish we lived in a perfect world where someone had, like a showrunner of an X-Men show having an only fan's wanting to post a explicit content, that that is going to not even be a concern because it should not.

But this is Disney. This is the Trump administration. There's a lot of where I'm just like, no, yeah, you see how all of this happened. And I think the third thing is, hey, there were allegations made against him where HR had to essentially be like your services are no longer needed. Do I need to know everything that happened? No. it's just kind of like, yeah, like, it's a messy situation.

So this is why I push back. Everything you said is true. Even if you came to me and you told me, I'm a black queer man working at this company, and it's unfair at that company. I would be like, yes, I understand what you're saying, but what happened to you? I would say that.

I'd be like, okay, yes, what you just said is true, but what happened to you? What, like, what, what, what, what, what, what I mean is what, like, when, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if it's, if, if, if, it's tough working here, it's tough doing this. I'm going through this and stuff like that. But, blah, blah, blah. I'm going to be like, okay, cool. I understand all of that.

I've been working here for a long time. What happened to you, though? What's the information that, that lets me connect to what, to what went on with you that made you decide you have to put some space between you and the company or you have to tell Are you talking to the company? What I'm saying is in an overall situation, what the societal framework of things is understood. I get it. I understand that.

I always want to know specifics because the specifics to me are what litigate the actuality of the circumstance. What act? Yes. So you are this. So people were saying this and it made you feel that way. Or they did this to you and it made you feel that way. way or everybody else was around you was promoted and you

weren't like what happened yeah but I mean not only with reading the piece but how Bo de Mayo has conducted himself on social media there are strategies on both sides there's a strategy in terms of why Disney legally doesn't want to

say anything but just culturally doesn't want to say anything in the same reason there is a strategy behind why do Bo de Mayo picked the lawyer he did why that lawyer was present for all of the interviews, why they didn't want to continue the interviews, and why he has not come out.

Because they are still, this is going to be taking a court. There's still a court case. There's still a court. So it's like, I get that, but I'm just like, yeah, it's, you know. And by the way, if, by the way, if Disney comes out and goes,

we told this guy he couldn't have an only fans, we sell stuff to kids, he has the only fans, we, he's out. Then at least we get to contend with that. We get to say, well, you know what? It is for kids and maybe OnlyFans and there's an adult platform

and maybe you don't want, blah, blah, blah, blah, maybe that. We get to contend with that. But now, with all of this work, the way all it is worse, in Estimate 97 is by far the least important thing of that. It's like, you're asked sort of to treat Bo de Mayo as either a sexual deviant,

a sex pest, or a harasser or whatever, and you just don't know what happened. And like all of that stuff in the article about his, why are we talking about if there are allegations against Bo DeMeo for some type of harassment or whatever, who gives a fuck about his only fans? Who gives a shit about the fact that he has an adult career? People that have adult careers have them,

and at the same time, do not have tremendous allegations of sexual assault, accused, why is that relevant to any of this? Like, if that is the reason that he is fired and you're giving context and sort of a framing of the fact that he just got too hot to work with, that's one thing. But if there's a whole other thing that happened, we need to talk about that because either people like that, we're trying to excise them from being people that we support and work with. And this guy was kicked off the show.

He was fired, presumably for something, and no one will really say what. So, but I think, I think we're getting into, this is my opinion, the framing of the piece, which is like the framing of the piece because you have these conversations with Bo that start at one point in time, and then you're not getting any more, you're filling the timeline with what happened after, and what happened. after is he becomes more prominent on only fans, starts using sex toys, starts having Adelaidelees.

Yeah, but who cares? No, but what I'm saying is that's the framing of the piece. That's not how I would have framed it, but that's, it's more so to me, a failure on the fact that like we don't know what happened and we're probably not going to know unless this goes to trial. That's not me trying to say, like to say you're not warranted. wanting that, but it's like neither side at this point wants to reveal that. Yeah, and it felt frivolous kind of reading the piece

because I'm like, well, if you keep doing this digging and nothing happens, then what are we really finding out here? So, I mean, again, like in the piece and like the background information, we don't, like, both a mail and Disney, not like actually said, like, what was like the thing that got him got, right? According to, um, what's this called Jeff Snyder. This is... Sniter. Yeah, from 20...

Which, again... Grand assault. Great assault. And the N. Snyder, I mean, the N. Snyder would be getting busy? Yeah. It's grain of salt. It is claimed that DeMayo sent nude photos of himself

in sexually suggestive hero poses to several young staffers working on X-Men 97. His excuse was that they could be used as inspiration for the animated series. He was slow to stop, but they continued. Snyder also claims that Bo DeMayo grew up in a sister on multiple occasions and was considered emotionally

and physically abusive towards taffers. Okay, cool. All of that stuff... I mean, it's second hand, but yeah. All of that stuff we had kind of heard before. Like, by the way, this is not a defense of Bo DeMayo. Like, Disney did an investigation, and then they decided that there was enough

that they would let Bo DeMayo go. All I'm saying is in this situation, you had the guy, there seems like that there's been a weaponization of his identity as a sexual performer that's been used to kind of say, yeah, you just can't have that. And that's fine.

All of that stuff, that is kind of the stuff that I'm always interested in knowing. I'm interested in knowing what happened, how would happen, who felt unsafe working with Bo DeMeo? Who did Bo DeMeo impose himself on? That way we can know how we have to,

like how we want to orient ourselves. sales. And all I would say, even just like, go ahead, my bad. And I would just say, this is not a defense of the Vanity Fair piece

or honestly a critique of it. It's just like, having been through this situation, it's like, all right, A, to get any of what the Insinider reported, in a publication like Vanity Fair, you're going to need at least two people

to confirm it. You got to go. And it's like, all types of sources. Bo de Mayo, signed papers, where, legally it would benefit him to be quiet.

I am assuming there are a lot of people, there are people that were harmed who might not want to relive it. There are people who are probably still working on X-Men 97, who work for the company, might not be in their best interest. So I want to be clear. Not only is this is not a defensive bow to bail, it is Warsaw being like, having been a reporter in this situation,

I can see why a lot of this shit, you know exactly what I'm talking about. I mean, I mean, look, I'm not. Vanity Fair is the, you know. But what I'm saying is, this is only I'm saying, before I brand somebody the new latest version of the Hollywood Weirdo, I would just like to know, like everybody else, like whoever these people are,

like all of this different stuff, be it Louis C.K., be it whomever, I've heard first, you hear first-hand accounts from people, you get a lot, all of that stuff. And that's all that I was, like, I thought that this article was going to get into that, and it kind of didn't. It was kind of more about,

it was very good, very good reporting, very good reporting, but there wasn't much in there that I felt like, um, that I read that I went, okay, now I know why this guy had to get out to the periphery of the industry.

So, yeah, if we're, if we're getting back to X-Men 97, do you think this season, not only creatively, but culturally, can get out of the shadow, or is this stuff that, because we're so tapped in,

we're reading it, but the average person booting up Disney Plus, and they're not going to be like, oh, did it not? They're just like, it's their show. Right. Here's a deal. The show is good. It's good, legitimately good.

It's clearly missing him. And that's fine. Look, not everybody, when I say that, I mean, just because you talented don't get, well, shit, it shouldn't. But sometimes it does. Just because you talented don't mean you get to go around like an asshole.

So ain't nobody going to cry because, like, it's plenty of shit. I could, you know how much shit is not as good as the way it used to be because some of the people that have to get kicked out of town or good at what they do? Like, I mean, that's a part of it. If you want safe spaces, then you have to be willing to, like, make decisions that are about those. spaces and not about the art.

But I want to push back. I can't believe I'm defending season two of X-Men 97. It's a real face turn from you. Yeah, this is insane. I always pushed back against the Autour theory, and I think, like, the job... First of all, X-Men 97 wasn't the creation of one person. Obviously, it took someone very passionate about it

to get it over the hill, but I also think that, like, the challenges of a first season of X-Men-97 in the second season are completely different. So I don't think it's as easy as saying, well, Bo de Mayo's not working on it as much that might account for the dip in quality versus I'm like, not only our second season's hard, superhero fatigue is way different now

than it was back then. And also, they were telling a much simpler story in season one. And to my knowledge, season two, this apocalypse term was already planned. Well, not only that, I mean, he's credited as executive producer and a writer for this season.

Yeah. So, like, his- his DNA's still in there. It won't be until season three where they have a whole new writing stats that we can. Because, because the reason why I disagree is because he wasn't in the room. So, like, you guys-

The scripts, I mean, the scripts are written. I'm sure. But it's just, like, he, it's, it's, this is the deal. First of all, everything that you're saying is, it happens all the time. it happens all the time. It happens all the time

that a creative team comes back on the second season and something that doesn't go as well. Happens all the time. Happens all the time. But there is always going to be a thought. Like particularly with someone who has a point of view this strong,

like when someone that has a point of view this strong, taking them out of it, changes everything. And also, he was running it, right? He was the show runner of the show, right? He was running it. That changes a lot. It does.

By the way, you guys, these are adult decisions that we make. You know, we don't get to listen to R. Kelly. We don't get to listen to it. We don't. Hey,

have you been to a barbershop? See what I'm saying? I don't know. I'm being serious. By the way, but the decision that we make sometimes, and I'm like, once again, I'm not putting these guys on the same thing

because I don't know enough about the Bo de Mayo situation. But what I'm saying is, is like, these are decisions that we make sometimes, and sometimes the decision that we make, we go, you know what, in order to put people first and put victims first and put our collective safety first, then it don't matter how dope you are, what the fuck you are,

what the fuck you do. Don't matter how fast you run. Don't matter how good you sing. Don't matter how good you write. Don't matter how you got to get to the back if people are not safe around you. If kids not going to be safe around you, if people, that's fine.

I take that very seriously. And when I make those type of determinations, I like to have as much information as possible. But to me, I think that there's, the show was always going to be different if someone that was involved in that much of the creative is gone. And the Autour thing, be damned, but I can tell you right now,

if Mike White doesn't write the next season, a White Lotus is going to be different. I mean, there's a difference between the White Lotus and X-Rae. I'm just saying, they got a, he likes a mini-room, they have a whole room, all of these people are talented, because they still made a good show. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. But, man, if we know one thing is there's a difference between good and great. Okay. A lot of game left. The difference between green. I think this could still be great. There has not, I do not see as much of a fall off.

Well, you didn't even like the first, you didn't like the first season. It's the same show to me. Because you sit there talking like, you didn't fucking dig it. If I were caught correctly. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Good.

I'll give you example. Good is this show when Jomey is here. Great is this show where Rob Mahoney is. Oh, wow. Whoa, what was that? People take that back right now.

People gonna believe you. Nah, people go over this. That's getting clipped. People can be like, hey, yo. Honestly, I'm starting to believe everybody who says, like, deep down, you don't really be supporting, like, Africa at our unity and the diaspora.

Like, African diaspora? You not support, because you always coming after Jomey trying to kick the only The only Nigerian brother off the stage. You know what I did that? I just wanted to get off Steve for a second. That's fair.

Steve always gets. I just wanted to give it to gentlemen. But maybe, maybe, you know what? Rob, next episode, Rob will fill it for me. Wait, no, there is going to be one episode. Kai's going to be sick here. Rob going to be there. Oh, no, no.

It's, yes. And CR. Who are like the, like, if we all disappeared. And they had to, the, we all disappeared. And they had the, the, we're, call the Avengers, like the I forget the Earth Midiest Hero episode, where

all the Avengers disappeared and it called Spider-Man, Wolverine, the thing, war machine, like the reserve Avengers. If we all disappear. If you are getting in this seat. He ain't never leaving. He ain't never, I'm never getting in a good guy. So what's up in this blue-eyed samurai, huh? Could you imagine? Yeah, yo, CR name.

I fuck these cartoons. Yeah, I'm like to see you. We've got to watch eight episodes of We are going to eventually contextualize what happened with Supergirl. We're not going to do it today because it's a longer conversation, but we do want to have a conversation about some of the talking points around Supergirls, some of the box office and stuff like that, maybe we'll do that after the next episode of, of, uh, of,

Hey! Hey, what to me? Hey, what a we? It takes some time, though. Just know, it takes some time. When I say, we're not going to get into it, we really not going to get into it, but legendary bus throw, legendary bus throw. I need from my brothers, I need from my brothers a pledge that we do at least 20 minutes

or I have not seen a buck pass like that. Like, that's incredible. Actually incredible. I have not seen a buck pass like that in a long time, bro. And it was so cold, too. Literally masterful. You know what? I got to give James credit for that.

That was a lot. He was the genius that came up with one of the worst things. We went through 45 songs and James was like, that's the one. James was like, I got to have that one. So he was adamant about it. James. James is a genius. came to me was like,

yo, you hear this record? I was like, yo, that's crazy. No, but they got him. They got his ass because they was like, say he didn't even read the comic. I was like, they was pulling on shit. Everybody mad. I've never seen,

I've never seen a dog pile like this. It's been tough. And it's same words. Little appetizer, after the next episode, we'll get into that a little bit deeper. But Jesus Christ. Okay, program and reminders on Sunday, join Mal, Joanna and Chris for Talk to Thrones.

On Monday, the Midnight Boys are back with more House of the Dragon, and we're going to attack a little supergirl stuff on to the end of that. That's good at you guys. Okay, cool. Our producers today are ladies and theirs. Jacob Cornett.

Who is Jacob Cornet? I'm joking. Devin Barrowe. Join me a dinner on on social. Hashtag, Nigerian Strong. Hashtag not Rob Mahoney. Not Rob Mahoney.

Not Robo. Additional production from our Juno Ramga Powell. Chuck, take us out. Shout out to all my Mexican homies. Van really needs to cut our Nigerian. Jerry and brothers some slack and I'm very happy that our 90s meetings are back.