The Ringer-Verse - “Y’all Yelled About It” Plus a Comic Book Check-in With Kerm | Mint Edition

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

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I'm Steve Olman. I'm Jimenez-Iner-on. And this is the once-in-a-while podcast about all the latest fandom that you just can't live without. We're excited. We're back. It's coming up on the middle. of October.

Middle of October. Good God. Brother, it's about that time. What is that time? It's your favorite time of year. You love a Joe Meadiron, you love Halloween. Certified Halloween lover. You are competing for some tickets to Halloween horror nights.

Your favorite thing to do. Go to haunted houses. I love haunted houses. I love trick-or-treating. My favorite part of Halloween is when people put their hands on you randomly and try to scare you. That's what I love. That's what it means to me. Big fan of being touched in spooky houses, Joe.

Big fan. Love it. Love that. I can see the pain in your voice. One of these days I'm going to get a Ouija board in the studio. I'm going to find a way to sneak it in. Steve. I'm so, I'm so excited.

Jess is going to come in and she's going to be like, Hey, Jomi, we got a pizza for you. And then it's going to open up and then boom. It's funny. It's not going to be funny when HR can call. It's not going to be funny when you end that meeting. Yeah. No, no.

It's going to be funny because the meeting's going to be, I'm sorry, you can't call an HR violation for a board game. I do right now. You see what I'm going to tell him is you did that in spite of my beliefs. So he's summoning my demons. He's out here. I told him, I didn't believe in that. And he did it anyway. That's got to be some type of harassment. They got to take it seriously.

Yeah, it's funny now. It's not going to be funny when you out for six weeks on a suspension because you wanted to act a little funny. I mean, cut to me in a body cast Because you just thought the ghosts were inside of me You know what I'm saying? Stop, stop playing with me Okay, don't play with me All right, well, we won't be playing too much

But before we get into the show today, we're going to be having a great time Talking about the things that you wanted us To check out in a new segment we're calling Y'all yelled about it Also, we're going to do our comics check-in Monthly with the great X-Men expert Kerm And

we're going to get into like pretty much everything that you guys ever wanted us to talk about in some aspect and be like, sorry, we don't have time to talk about it. We hear it's great. We love it. We're going to keep it pushing. But for now, some programming reminders. Tomorrow, the Midnight Boys are going to give you their instant

reactions to Agatha and recapping the Penguin. And on Friday, the House of Our is going to give you their deep dive into Agatha as well. Before the months of October wrap up, let's not say what we're actually doing just yet, but we're really looking forward to November. November, man. November's going to feed families, brother.

Yes, it will. It's going to change lives. Honestly, like, legacy drive for us. Listen, we can't spoil everything that's going on in November. But, man, we got some things cooking. It's mainly one thing that's going on in November, but it's happening for all of November. Steve, it's called a tease. It's what in the business we call a tease. So if you wanted to say catch up with all of our teases on the internet, podcasting, and otherwise,

where would you be finding those things, Jemmy? You got to follow us on the social. on Twitter, on Instagram, on TikTok at Ringiverse. It's a lot of cool stuff coming. If you want to stay in the know, make sure to follow. Watch out. Exactly. Also, check out the YouTube.

Like, rate and subscribe, everything that we're doing there. It's very exciting. It's newish, but hey, we want to get into your algorithms. Yeah, you got to ring that bell. With our rhythms. You got to, you got to subscribe and hit that bell. So you're notified when the videos come on. That's what they be saying on the videos.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And those little like, Bing things. Yeah, they always have the graphic. It's the same graphic every time, but it never gets home. You wouldn't think that it works, but it works. But hey, listen,

what's going to be our secret YouTube comment? Good question, Steve. Well, you know what? How about this? We're going to think about it. And then at the end of the show, we're going to come at you like a Jomi hashtag. And then we're going to, and then it's going to make sense for us.

All right? Let's go. All right. So, we'll just figure it out. But for now, today's show, we're going to be checking out the things that you've been yelling at us to check out. And we're going to give you some highlights of the things that we picked from you in a segment

that we're calling. Y'all yelled about it. Let's get into it. All right. So we can't cover everything here on the Ringgiverse on Mint Edition or really anything ever because there's so much. It's a lot. Jomi, this is honestly, I wanted to start this off because I'm sure you get into a lot

of conversations about your friends that don't necessarily work in the jobs that we work at and have the privilege to watch and see and do as many things as we get to do for our jobs. I'm assuming that a lot of your friends come to you and you're like, all right, what do I need to be watching? Or like, what do you do? Does it get kind of hard to just not talk about the things that we talk about all the time?

I mean, yes, I know, because I've always been, like, the comic book guy, you know? So people are like, you know, with all this stuff popping off now, it's always like, oh, do I got to watch this? Do I got to watch that? I think where it gets me is the stuff outside of that realm. You know what I mean? Like, I try to keep up on stuff like Abbott Elementary, for example, you know, animal control, like shows like that.

But at the same time, there's that show called English Teacher. I haven't seen an episode. It's one of the best shows on TV according to everybody else. But I haven't been locked in because I'm too busy watching Penguin and Agatha. Yeah. And then a couple of other things that we're going to be checking out. But again, like, there's only so many hours in the day. You know?

So sometimes we need your guidance. What are you doing instead of watching? like grinding tape, Steve, like in between, like sleep, work, watching, like, what are you doing? What do you fill your hours with? I'm trying to play games. I'm trying to read more. I'm trying to do my audiobooks. I try to exercise a little bit.

Oh, yeah, I got to stay a little healthy. Got to stay motion. I can't. I can't outwork a bad diet, though. You can't. The diet's hard. Nobody can. Nobody can, Steve.

Nobody can, Steve. Abs are made in the kitchen, not the gym. That's right. It's right. It's real hard. But, frankly, it's hard to, like, find the free time to do it because all the things that we want to, that we do for work. actually gets to be really fun and enjoyable. And then sometimes we're just like,

okay, well, if we're locked into this, maybe sometimes we just want to throw on a love is blind. Oh, my gosh, that's been taking up so much of my time. And listen. I got to catch up. Brother, love is blind. You will. You will.

Has never been more back in the sense that this is the worst season I've ever seen. The worst season is in the worst people or the best events? Porque no los dos. Okay. Then it might be the best, it sounds like. You know what I mean? I'm watching it and I'm watching this dude who's like, imagine the guy who looked like Steve

and he was like, guys, guess what? I'm waiting for this to be a compliment. I'm 50% Nigerian. First of all, Joe, God. You don't know my 23 and me. Swear to God. Broke me, he was like, yeah, man, I'm Nigerian and like Gnian. So I'm like, Nigeria is a West African.

This guy is a white man. White man. Right. A white man. Now this could be an Elon Musk situation. No, no, no, no, no. it was a whole thing and he just comes in like yeah I thought I was Italian

You thought it was Italian I thought I had a little bit you know Italia in me but the 23 meet comes back and I'm like West African and I was like brother You could have kept that to yourself Interesting right Listen here's the thing I feel like it has to be true

Because sometimes people don't operate With that level of confidence I'm not saying it's not true I'm just saying You know You're you're printing around out a toner. You know what I mean?

There's no ink there, buddy. Right. You know what I'm saying? You didn't have to, I appreciate the sentiment. I know what you're trying to do there, Mama Guy. Listen, the world's made of a rich tapestry, many stripes, different folks. Nah, man. Peace and love all around. Love is blind. Love

truly is blind. But yeah, like, you know, instead of watching, you know, some of the shows like Silo or or foundation. Maybe sometimes we need to turn our brains off and get some of the nice candy. You know, basically anything on Apple TV.

Yeah, really. That's really how we do over here. We need to see Leigh Pace fight a bunch of dudes naked. Hey, but not everything on Apple TV. Oh. Oh. Do they still got the soccer contract over there? Oh, I mean, MLS, yeah.

We still watch on the less. But one of my other shows, the shows that we're checking in on Apple TV. So, you know, maybe. There we go. Well, again, that's what in the business we call a tease. A tease. Well, let's actually get to it. Let's stop teasing. Let's stop teasing him. You guys suggested a bunch of stuff

and we're going to be passing the ball back and forth between our suggestions because, again, it's a lot for us to check out, but I checked out some stuff. Jomey checked out some stuff from your guys' wonderful suggestions. And I'm going to start with the MGM pluse

series in its third season. You could stream this now on Amazon Prime. It's called From. So now I know why I didn't watch this because it's on MGM Plus. Well, it's technically on Amazon Prime. You can watch it. But it's an MGM plus production. Okay.

Okay. So. Plus joint. Here's, I'm just going to assume what happened. MGM was like, yeah, we need a streaming service.

We got to do our own thing. And Amazon's like, look, that's not how he's, that's not how he's going to get now. Yeah, y'all can do y'all streaming service on our stream of service. But nobody watches this shit.

Nobody's going to pay $499 or 999-9-9 for no GM plus. But we have all the James Bond movies. That's not how that works. How did you enjoy from, Steve? I greatly enjoyed from. I saw the first season. I couldn't crack the whole thing. But when I was told by many people,

like I keep looking at all of these acolytes. It's like a 96% of rotten tomatoes. It's like, it's been Emmy nominated. It's been a bunch of like, a lot of great press has been had for this thing. And I haven't heard Diddley squat about it in like the water cooler discourse around anything. I don't know anybody online that's talked about it thoroughly,

but like some people watch this show. And this is really fun. The premise being like that there's like a, it begins kind of like a Twilight Zone episode where these people are kind of like trapped in this derelict town and they can't leave for some reason. And there's this de facto appointed sheriff that makes sure everybody's safe

and that everybody is locking their doors and windows at night because at night some demonic flesh-eating creatures I don't want to save vampires right away but it makes you think of their vampires because they can't come in the house if you've locked your doors. Of course not. But there's this looming threat about how

these people can't leave this town and a new strange family wanders into this. town and has to kind of like figure out what is happening and how to acclimate themselves. It is in the vein of Lost. It's a mystery box show. There's a lot of like interesting stories between like an big ensemble of characters. And it's wonderfully intriguing.

I like this completely snuck up on me. And frankly, it's a pretty good ringer verse recommendation as well. Like this is kind of in our alley. It's spooky. It's got some cool mythic creatures. there's a lot of great drama and intrigue and I love it I love everything about it

you might not check it out though because it's scary it's spooky and scary and I like when I like when I'm in my home I'm watching you know content I like to be warm and cuddly not cold and scared yeah but that's

come on what do you mean come on I'm saying come on I'm saying why not and I'm saying come off come off Kerm, like, you could hear the disgust on Kerm's face that he just made. You're saying, come on.

It's like somebody just, like, shoved broccoli in his face. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, well, first of all, broccoli is delicious. No, no, I'm thinking of that gift from the office when Kevin gets broccoli shoved in his face. Like, ugh. Broccoli's good, man. You ever roast some broccoli, brother? I can't find a good broccoli recipe to save my life. Oh my God, dude, it's simple, man.

You take some olive oil, some salt, some pepper, some garlic powder. You just put that in your oven and air fire. Get, like, nice and crispy. Like the whole head of broccoli? No, man, you chop it up into the florets Okay, okay Come on, man. I just, I don't like broccoli.

I'm a child. I'll admit that I'm a picky. Let me tell you, broccoli, Brussels sprouts. Brussels sprouts I fuck with. Brousal sprouts I fuck with. Spargas is good. Asparagus is good. I just like, broccoli is just so nutritious for me

and I don't like it at all. It's good, man. It's good. No, man, it's just not, it's not, I'm not about it, honestly. That's what it is. That's ultimately what it's about. Can I sell you on Harold Perineau?

being the sheriff, aka Mercutio from Romeo plus Juliet. Romeo plus Juliet? Yes. Okay, now... That's not the official title. Of course not. But when I say Romeo plus Juliet, you know what I'm talking about. I think of John Logozo.

Yes. That's the one. That is the one. Yeah. Leonardo DiCaprio vehicle from the 90s. Yeah. He was one of the best Mercutio's I've ever seen, and he was awesome in this. And I genuinely was surprised at how, like, I'm sticking with this.

I'm going to keep watching it. I don't know why this hasn't been talked about more. Frankly, it's probably the only feather in MGM Plus's cap because I didn't, I legitimately thought they forgot they were a streaming service. Name one more MGM. I cannot. If you, if you,

if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you dangled my mom in front of a tank full of sharks and said, name another MGM plus show, I'd start saying goodbye to my mom.

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Man, speaking of Apple Plus TV, shows. Everybody, we saw a couple of these, and so I decided to check it out. And not only is it one of my favorite shows I'm watching right now, it's probably one of the best TV shows come out in the last, like, two, three years. Slow Horses, Gang, Rise Up, Slough House for life, man. It's based on a book series by Mick Herron, and it's about MI5 agents, you know, British intelligence and it stars Gary Oldman is Jackson Lamb the guy in charge of Slough House running

the show and it centers around him and his team of basically derelict spy folk so essentially Slah House is not The shit to your spy house well it's not I was gonna say like the G League but it's even worse than that you know it's kind of like being

like if you had to go they like sent you to go play basketball in Kazakhstan you know I mean like that's basically First of all Sean's guy's now I'm sure I'm sure A lot of people in that league are. I'm just kind of great. Shout out to the, hey, real quick, speaking of that region of the world.

Shout out to the guy who traveled from Egypt to Japan without flying a plane, without taking a plane. He, like, walked, boated, like, drove. So, every form of transportation but a plane from Egypt to Japan. People could do that. Well, brother, it was the whole thing.

Shout out to him. I think his name is Omar. It was awesome. But Sawhouse, legitimately, it's funny. it's engaging. As a spy thriller, it works. As a comedy, it works.

As a, you know, talking about like what people do when they're faced with insurmountable odds and nobody believes in them. It's just honestly perfection. And I know I said this on Twitter like a couple weeks ago, but River Cartwright is one of the worst spies I've ever seen in my entire life. Right. Okay.

It's bad news bears. I've only seen like maybe a. handful of episodes, like maybe two or three from the first season. And it seemed very good. I think I was just kind of a little turned off at how grimy it was. I don't know why, but I just wanted to get Gary Oldman shower every single episode. He needs a shower and he needs to take like an antacet and something to fix his guts. Yeah, no, no, no.

He looked like, have you seen Osmosis Jones? Yeah. He looked like Bill Murray from Osmosis Jones. Just constantly sick and like a boil or a zit on him at all. all times. It's gross. It's geese gross. I don't like it.

But no, it's great to know that it's a good show. I'm curious as to know, like, what makes a spy show constantly intriguing other than the moment to moment, like, this can't be like a spy thing of the week. No. This has got to be like an overarching plot. Yeah. So each new season has like a new story. Sometimes it takes character away.

It adds characters, you know. not they're not all safe. It's crazy too because you you find like, I don't want to spoil it for folks, but there are characters that you'll start a season, but like, oh yeah, this character's here for the long run. Oh,

they're gone. It's almost like impressive and it still matters to shock you each time. I think the magic of the show is the characters. It's Gary Holman's Jack Loudon as Rivercartwright. You know, their banter and chemistry. But honestly, just the banter

chemistry between all the folks at MI5 at Slauhaus, the entire thing. I just finished series three. I'm saying I'm like an English person now. Wow, series. I just finished Sherry Street, yeah. And the ending like that last episode, man, brother. I don't even want to start season four. I know season four just finished.

I don't want to start season four. Because you know it's going to end at some point. I do hate that. I hate it when like I know that I'm reaching the end of something, even if it isn't actually finished because I'm like, no, there's nothing. There's nothing. I've been like, man, can't wait to go home watch slow horses. Now if I watch season four, I got to wait like everybody else is season five.

I don't want to wait. It shows too good to wait. I need it now. I need it in my veins now, Steve. Well, they've approved season four. It's already going to be happening. Season five, season five is done. They're moving on to season six.

Great. At this point. But I'm still like, I don't know. I want to wait. I don't want to finish it. You can at least have the warm blanket of knowing that it's going to be around for like the next three years. That's true. That's true, man.

They make real TV. we're getting a season every year what happened to my country dog see how the English are doing it right okay you hire Thomas Coole and now you're getting like slow horses every single year man come on USA pick it up shrinking's coming back I hear

shrinking you watch shrinking I didn't like it oh that's tough you didn't like Harrison Ford I know I love Harrison Ford I'm not a big well who's the other guy Jason Segal Jason Segal I'm not a big Jason Segal He didn't like Jason Segal He's sure

What? Forgetting Serra Marshall? Yes, that's a banger, for sure. But, like, anything... No. The Muppets? Eh. Eh, oh, the Muppets!

No, he wasn't... No, first of all, he wasn't the good part of the Muppets. He wasn't... Okay, for... Okay. No, Steve! If you took him out of the Muppets movie, would that be a worse movie? I never seen the movie.

I don't know. Oh, come on. Get out of here. What do we talking about? Cut his mic, Kerm. Disrespecting me. I'm sorry, that's hilarious. The fact that I haven't seen...

That's actually fucking hilarious. I'm sorry. The setup is hilarious. I'm so mad. So mad at you. No, my God. No, but slow horses is, like, I honestly... And, like, I don't want to, like, put too much gas on it.

But it has been one of the funnest, most enjoyable shows. maybe because I'm particularly like me and particularly I love a spy thing so you can get a spy thing like a heist thing I'm always going to be there for it but this show in particular just how it seems it's like so I don't want to say self-serious because that's not right but it obviously takes the show seriously but then you have a character like Jackson Lamb who like you've mentioned is like dirty grimy legitimately like a disgusting human being

not in like what he like does or who he is, but legitimately like... Just his aura is just... It's just aura is nasty. It's like Gangar for the Pokemon's just like bleat. And then you have Rivercar, right, who again stinks at his job, right? Despite his need to be a hero is not really good at it. You know what I mean?

And then you have Ho who was just like the worst person in the world. Scratch and sniff. Like you have all these collection of characters together. And then you're like, how do these guys get... anything done. Only person who is worth anything is Standish. Shout out to Standish, right? And they ultimately end up on top.

And it's just like, it's so fun and rewarding to see these cast of characters, despite all their flaws and despite all their problems, make stuff happen. I, I mean, you get through Series 1 and you get all the, and I think after that, if you're not liked in by then, I don't know what to tell you. Right. Because Series 2 and Series 3 are just on another level. right and so like I would just say

give it a shot and you're probably gonna love it because I love it and it's good TV shout out to everybody all my sore horses out there be right at dawn baby come on hell yeah hell yeah awesome um okay so I was actually suggested but I was gonna watch this anyway but we actually haven't had a chance

to talk about this I'm keeping up the spooky theme because we're in October spooky Halloween um I'm gonna be talking and plugging uh adult swims anime Usumaki And you laugh Because Because I haven't watched it

Right And you won't be No no No here's the thing right Oh So I get online They're like Usumaki

Episode one Fantastic Just spectacular Oh yeah And so I have notes About that I do have notes about this I got notes

It was awesome And then episode Two come out They're like I know you've seen The Cliffs Yeah Yeah

Yeah Was this animated By a three year Yeah Yeah, no, they had some Powerhorn presentation clips What happened to the frames? Right. Who stole the frames?

Yeah, who stole the frames. It is like they robbed the studio after that, after that first episode. Just starting to take its cells, right? Yeah. It's like, well, we only, we're supposed to be, what, 24 frames for a second? We only have 16. We only got six. So the best we can do.

Put it back. No, all right. So, funnies aside, this is an adaptation of a long, beloved and much-heralded manga by the great and legendary Junji Ito. And before I would even say, like, to recommend this show, I would recommend the book, Usumaki, because of its art and it's incredibly twisted and fucked up story that is so fun. and it's been like heralded by like so many people like the more the more people that I hear were excited about the show I didn't know that this many people knew about the story of this

like the cross like anime cross generational fans of like oh you like you're not to anime at all but you like Usumaki it follows such like these random mysteries that happen throughout this crazy town that all reflect around the imagery of a spiral and this galactic sort of of almost Cthulhu-esque mystery that happens between...

Would you say Lovecraftian? Maybe. Not necessarily, but not Lovecrafty. There's no Cthulhu here. You said Cthulhu like? I meant to say Lovecraft. Listen, all right. Guys, I want to talk to us about words real quick.

All right? I have a very, very interesting. A couple of people have been on me about the word autumnal lately. A couple of people, it's been me. Yeah, it's been you. It's a fake word. No, it's not. It's a fake.

No, what you wanted to say, what you did tell me. All right. So for those who were uninitiated, Jomi and I were walking to get lunch one day, and I used the word autumnal in a sentence. It's not real. It's not a real word. And I'm like, yes, it is a real word.

And Jomey says that, no, that's a white people. It's a white people word, for sure. And it sounds to me, like any white word is just a word you don't know. Here's the thing, right? For whatever that word is, I can't say it. Optumnal? Autumn. Otumnal.

Yeah, sure. All right, is that, you make it fun of my accent, Steve? No. I'm like, take it syllable by syllable. So here's the thing, right? I grew up in Southern California. I learned in Southern California, basically my entire life, right? We don't have autumn out here.

There's no fall, okay? The leaves don't change color. Could be, yeah, and that could, this could be a regional thing. It's 72 degrees all the time. The sun is out, man. I go to the brother. Beach in November. Brother.

Thanksgiving week? Mm-hmm. You know where we at? We're playing ball outside, man. You know what I'm saying? Christmas Day? Right. We're out,

we're throwing something on the grill. Sure. It's love out here. It's beautiful out. Nary a crispy leaf in sight. Nary a crispy, never, nary a cold wind in the breeze, brother. It is beautiful.

There's no autumn. There's no autumnal out here. Right. It doesn't exist. So when you said that word, I was like, what? Autumn.

Huh? Yeah. Huh? What is that? I never heard that before in my life. So when I travel to the great city of Buffalo, New York, shout out Buffalo like one or two people said hi to me

because they recognized me for the pod which was incredibly nice awesome people to say went to an autumnal festival sure in Buffalo Buffalo New York City Buffalo New York City

and it was wonderful and I've just been using that word every time that I can because it's a great word and I'm not going to stop doing it Can you ever hear that word before in your life autumnal being of autumn.

I feel like I have, but I'm not going to sit here in front. It's not a word that I've ever used. All right, well, I've gotten much support, and all of that support is very welcome. Support from white people.

I feel seen and heard. From white people. This is beside the issue. No, it is the issue. No, it is not the issue. It's kind of the issue. No, no, no, for white people. Regional.

Regional. Mm. A regional with white people. Okay. Uzumaki is good. I was so excited because I get to see these things play out in a different medium because I know that while, like,

purists will say that, like, yes, the manga's perfect and it is, I like to see it translated into a show. And I think that while the first episode was kind of immaculate, the second episode, clearly rough. And it was, like, hit with a lot of, like, production drama. One of the producers, Jason DeMarco kind of took to social media

in a since deleted post about how production was kind of screwed over after the first episode and they've had to go with somebody that was more or less blackballed from the animation industry after the fact to get them across the finish line

not getting into the particulars himself but as much of a troubled production as this is I don't think it's like irredeemable and it's certainly worth watching because if you want something spooky and fun to see on a Sunday night from a nice like you know small mini-serie I think this is really good.

And it's like some crazy fucked up spiral stuff. You see a person turned to a snail. You see a black hole open in a girl's head and she gets sucked into a void. It's like a couple that is so in love that they like entwine and wrap and

crunch their bones inside of each other. Me and who? Me and who? I don't want something casual. I want this. I want our bones to turn to us together. Is it too much to ask ladies to just, you know, merge spines together Is that

What happened in love, man? Yeah, romance, like what happened at real yearners, man? Do it, do it. You know? Let's do it like the knights of old did, you know? Merge our spines together. I want my lady's favor.

Crunch up. No, I mean, that sounds, all that sounds interesting and fun. You won't be partaking, I'm sure. God, no, no shot. But I do think, I wonder if people can get past episode two, you know?

I encourage them to do so, because I've seen episode three. And like, again, does not look as good as episode one doesn't look as bad as episode two but I think that they're clearly onto something good they understand the tone of the assignment here and technical issues aside I think it's a fun

story that's always worthwhile I hear that's awesome that's awesome I'm gonna take that animation baton speaking my way we're going from TV to film I watch the wild robot ah yes

movie changed my life no funny bro Okay, so this is my main question because I'm by no means against this movie. But there's like a small like hater part of my brain where I'm like, why would I watch this movie when the Iron Giant already exists? Nah, this is different. Okay, and I figured, and I hope that it would be. But like, sell me on this. It starts with Peter Niongo as Roz and she's on this island and she has to, her whole thing is I have to. Not Ross from Frazier.

Damn it, Ross. And she's a helper robot, you know? And her whole thing is like, how do I help the people I'm supposed to help? But they're not people, they're animals. All right. And it's she, I'm going to start crying if I start talking about it. She meets this little goose egg. She takes care of little goose.

And she raises it. And then she has to let it go. And it's really beautiful. And like, it speaks so much about family and found family. and, you know, telling people, you know, that you love them when the time, the whole, man, it's just, it's, it's, it's, first of all, first of all, beautiful film, like, exceptional, gorgeous, it's gorgeous animation.

It's the same team that did, uh, Puss and Boots, The Last Witch. Oh, okay. All right. Well, then that's all you needed to say. Oh, my gosh. That's all you needed to say. It looks, yeah, DreamWorks. It looks incredible, right?

But then the, uh, Pedro Pascal is, is, Finks, the Fox. Bill Nihy is long neck Shout out Bill Nihy He's still getting these checks But the film Is just a masterclass At the end of the second act And the third act

I had tears in my eyes I'm serious It was it was it was like that Let me I'm not going to cry I'm not going to cry There's so As she's got the little

The little gosling You know And he like cooks He puts his his, like whole body in her neck, right? Like a little thing. You know, and it happens, like, a couple times throughout, like, that, when he's a little baby.

And then he's got to go migrate. He's got to leave, you know? He's got to leave the nest for the, for the winter. And Roz is, like, sitting on this, like, hill, like, looking. By the way, this isn't, like, the emotional climax in the movie. It's not the emotional climax of the movie. It's just a moment of the movie. And then she, like, puts her hands.

where he would rest, oh, my gosh. Oh, my God. Oh, man. It's just, I don't know, man. If you've ever, like, felt like loss or love or, you know, just, like, knowing that, like, things change and you're, like, the love you have for people, you never, like, the time you have of people is never enough. Even if you spend a billion years with somebody that you love. you love them, it's never enough. So you got to let them know.

And you have to let them know. And the movie just like completely shattered my cold dead heart. And I sat in the theater and bubbled like a baby because it was so beautiful, so well-acted and honestly just hits, uh, hits you right into emotions, right in the, right in the chest. It was, it's a fantastic film. I would recommend it, you know, saying bring your tissues. available to buy our rent now, I believe. Was it?

Yeah, it's on streaming now. Already? Yeah. Don't watch it at home. You're not going to cry at home because you can turn it off at home. No, I'm more prone to crying at home. You can't turn it off at home. You can turn it off at home.

Oh, I'll just stop it whenever I feel like I'm feeling. You start to get that emotion like, nah, put this off. Put the game on. Yeah. Basketball, basketball, man. Football. Yeah. Man.

Ronnie. It's his year. Yeah. Yeah. We're not going to talk about Ronnie. We can talk about Ronnie. I don't want to talk about Ronnie. He stinks. It's fun.

He hasn't even played. That's, yeah, because he stinks. Yeah, there you go. But no, this film is legitimately like, I don't want to say came out of nowhere, but nobody was talking about this film to me until you guys started yelling about it. And then, you know, you hear some word of mouth, like, oh, man, wow, ro, wow, wow, wow, wow. I'm like, we got this pod.

I'm going to check it out. I'm a tap. Sorry, real quick, you sounded like an adult from Charlie Brown. Just a spectacular, fantastic. I cannot recommend this movie enough. It is one of the highlights of 2024. We talk about animation being dead in the States. This right here makes me think that it's the life.

Yeah, man. No, it feels great. God, just an amazing film. I can't watch it again because I can't be crying like that. You know what I'm saying? I got a I got a I got a bit

Yeah If you cry too much Your beard goes away You can't have that It melts you The tears melt your beard away Yeah You know what I'm saying

It turns You turn you into that Tick-Tock filter Where it just gives you like Four chins For some reason But just an Immaculate,

amazing film I can't wait for it To win the Oscar For Best Animated Feature next year It will I look Interesting

I like Inside Out 2 And it's not the same I don't know It's not the same brother I don't know Inside Out 2 is pretty Go watch the movie.

Go watch it. Go watch Wild Robot. Tell me, I want you to go watch Wild Robot and tell me that it don't deserve that award over that. Okay. Over that. All right.

I'll have to find out. The voice acting, again, incredible Lupita, Pedro Pascal, fantastic. I mean, I knew was Pedro Pascal. I was like,

I've seen the Mandalorian too many times, buddy. I know what last of us is. I know I'm familiar with your game. Listen, I feel like, like, Pedro Pascal,

if he's not on the set of Fantastic Four, he's just living in a voice Booth. Good. Because if he's just because if he's not in Mandalorian Keep getting them checks. Then he'll be in some animated movie or he'll be doing a Corona commercial. Hey, listen. They pay, they pay well. I bet

the checks are clear. Got to be. Got to be. But no, legitimately a fantastic exceptional film. Run. Do not walk to your theaters to go watch the Wild Robot. And if it is, you got to watch it in your house with your kids

or whatever may be, have the tissues ready, it will knock you off your feet and put you into a world of emotions you have never even imagined you could be in. Wow, wow. Underselling. All right. I'm going to wrap up this with a little bit of a rapid fire.

Honorable mentions because, again, like we talked about this a lot, and we're going to be getting to our comic book section in a second. We got recommends for the Fallout show came out quite a while ago, but still, I've watched it, I loved it. I thought it was a, like, incredible adaptation of keeping, like, the spirit of the game that is wildly, wildly successful and still turning it on its ear to actually give it something new

and a bit of a fun, fresh outlook. Jomi, did you see Fallout? I did. Great show, but a bad show if you're eating. It's not that gross. It's kind of gross. You saw the substance. You can, you can, you're tougher now.

But I wasn't eating. Actually, I was eating during the substance, but it wasn't that bad. I legitimately didn't eat dinner after I saw the substance. I didn't need to see that. I was happy I ate before. Yeah. But I would have my meal and I'd be like, I put it on the prom. I'm like, yo, let's watch Fallout.

And then he's like cutting off a guy's finger. Mm. You know? And like you got to look at the ghoul and it's like, shout out Warren Goggins. He was excellent as the goal. He was fantastic. Like honestly, playing like two roles, playing like the guy he was before and then the ghoul.

He was great, but I'm like, oh, this is nasty. I should, let me put my food down for a second. Let's get to, you know, Ella Pernell and whatever she's on. Yeah. You know, let me leave the ghoul alone. Who's taking the crown for big eyes in Hollywood? Is it Ella Prunel? I think Anya Taylor's, it's between those two.

I know that. Yeah. I mean, Ella Pranel, she's like, she's so hot in Hollywood right now. She's got the stars thing coming out and whatnot, but I think it's still Anya Taylor. I think Ani Taylor needs to watch the throne. think she needs to protect her neck that's the thing about being like number one somebody's always coming for you now i'm saying you always and i don't think we've had a contender like elipurnal in quite a while maybe that's i mean you're probably right at the end of the day you know

shout out speaking of stuff that people will have been yelling us about but they haven't yelled us about this because this is just something that i started watching now i'm in ele pernell stars in star trek podigy baby yeah Yeah. Talk trick pot as you mentioned. One day. One day. One day, Jomey.

Brother, I put that, brother, man. I injected that show into my veins, man. It was, it was like... Was it one of the good ones? It's one of the great ones. Oh, all right. You know, Chris Ryan will never watch it because it was animation. But it is a special...

Like, I... Because the show does this thing that it rarely happens in... Honestly, in media in general. They write themselves at two. freaking corner, man. Yeah, but that's what, no, but that's what good Star Trek's about. They will be like, we, oh, we have to save the planet. Up, the planet blew up.

How do we fix this problem? Okay, so that's the plot mostly, but like, every time that like purists or whatever complained about, like, the Star Trek that was lost to time was just like, okay, we got to solve like another form of space racism every week. And like, and it's like the geopolitics of like one planet versus a council of aliens. And like sometimes it's just an adventure.

We're like, hey, we got to stop a planet from blowing up. And it's just not as ridiculous as Rick and Morty. No, no, no, no. But, and kind of like slow horse in the same vein, you have these collection of characters who aren't really supposed to get along and they find themselves like in being in Starfleet and like being out on their own for the first time. Right. And it's just, it's really fun and it's super, super awesome.

Hey, and Netflix, I know you're listening. make season three, begging, I am pleading. Please, please. Give us Star Trek Prodigy season three

because it's awesome and more people should be watching it. All right. Continuing on the Apple TV Plus route, somebody's recommended Silo. I had seen the first season

of Silo. Season two is coming. That's the one with Rebecca Ferguson? That is with Rebecca Ferguson and her unchanging Swedish accent. Oh, really? Didn't hide it too well

in some cases. Was she trying to hide it? Yes. No, she's wonderful. She's amazing. Well, here's the thing, right? She's not on a mission of basketball no more,

so now she's got time to do... Dune is set. Oh, Dune. Prophecy. Yeah. She's not in that one, though. She's not in that one, though. Because it's like a thousand...

She's in the movies, but... 10,000 years. Yes. She said, I'm not stumbling it for no Dune prophecy. Yeah, no. Becky Fur... Silo, though. Slide up.

Yeah. Silo was pretty good. I think the pilot is just probably one of the best pilots I've ever seen. And the show was solid enough for me, but, you know, maybe... Like, I'm hoping that season two stays as solid. I got another suggestion about Zabu mafu.

I don't really have... I loved Zabu mafu when I was a kid. With the crap brothers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. While walking in the woods one day, Chris and Martin saw something strange. Yes. Jumping, leaping, lemur

who liked to bounce and play. And then it says some other words. And then... Suboo... Mufu... All right, so we also got another suggestion. Me and you and subo mafu come along and see it, my friends.

They said it because we don't have animal knowledge, and I'm like, this isn't Van Lathen's show. Like, we're, fans the animal expert here. We're going to the closet. We're going on a trip. We're going to the closet to grab our stuff and split. And then the stuff will fall on them because it falls on them every time. That's the joke.

Because they don't organize the clock. Exactly. Yeah. We're going on a cool adventure and we don't know what's in store. We're coming from the closet and we're headed out the door. It was something like that. Bumpy ride there. Listen.

Shout out to whoever mentions of Bufu. One of the greatest shows of my childhood. I'm making sure my kids watching Mubber Food. because it teaches you a great appreciation of animals and garbonso beans. So in like the streaming like apocalypse where most like Disney pluses or anything won't have the things from your childhood, what things are you like pirating for your children that you had to be seen back in the day? Sesame Street. Sesame Street for sure.

I feel like Sesame Street will always be around. Battle and doer for sure. Zamufu definitely fetch with Rough Roughman. Oh man. What is Fetch with Rough Rough Ruff? Fetch! Hold on. Do do do with Rolf Ruffman.

It was like a game show for kids. No. What is this? Oh my gosh. Fetch a Ruffman. Brother, let me say something. I would have killed a French Ruffman.

I would have been in my bag. I would have won all eight seasons of that thing. I think those were in like four. But I would have killed that. What? Damn. Yeah, brother. Fetched with Ruff Ruffman.

All right. And then if I'm just going strictly off the PBS guest joint, I would say probably cyber chase. Oh, okay. All right. Cyber chase. Math. Math.

Got to know math. Got to know math. Shout out all my public, my public broadcasting people, man. You know, we didn't have cable growing up. We was broke. Yeah. No, I would be giving my kids recess. I would be given my kids.

Cable. That's crazy. No, that's not cable. That was ABC family. I don't know. ABC family won cable? No, no, no. Sorry.

That was ABC one Saturday morning. One Saturday morning. Yeah, ABC kids was trash. real. What? Yes. Huh? ABC's one Saturday morning.

That's what I'm saying. On Saturday mornings, right? Yes. That's where I watch Power Rangers. But it's not, it wasn't on ABC family. It was on ABC. That's what I'm saying.

We agree. Okay. It was on the regular TV. Yes. That's not cable. That's regular TV? Yeah, yeah. You said cable.

I know, but it was something, it was one, it was like, what, maybe like six hours of programming a day. Yeah, yeah. On Saturdays. I said, that's not. And they would, like, button it with like,

you're in this big, like, CGI mansion. Mansion. I thought it was like a sports thing. That's what you watched. No, no, no, no. So they changed like different like skins for that. So like, but you know what I'm saying where it's like, they're packaging all the shows if you're like watching. Sweet Life. Impossible. Proud family. That's O'Raven.

Hannah Montana. Power Rangers. Yeah, that's where I watch Power Rangers. So we knew, so you know what we were talking about. But like every once in a while, like, in that like package of the one Saturday morning thing, they would have their own like interstitial bits where like this was this is very 90s. Like it was in this big giant CGI mansion and they would have a team of these two janitors that took care of the big mansion that had all these crazy characters in it. But they would just be like getting into hijinks in like the

back rooms of the mansion where they're like they're going to play a game called What's That Sound? And it was just like they played a sound and it's like a helicopter and then they're like, that is a alligator calling for its mom. And then they're like, no, that's a helicopter. and like just dumb silly stuff like that. So one Saturday morning, that's what I'm pirating off of YouTube if that's not dead. Just that little bit. Just that little bit.

All right, well, that was a longer Zabomofu section than I thought we would have. It's a good show ever. Best show ever. Somebody asked me specifically about where to find Warhammer 40K lore videos that aren't boring as hell. So you're going to look up the guy, don't laugh at the name, Bricky on YouTube. B-R-I-C-K-Y. Amen. He's got great lore videos.

He's really, really good. He's good at explaining all these factions and making them fun. It's a lot of good stuff. And y'all are already looking at me funny because it's not my name. I didn't name him. Why did he name himself Brick? I don't know. You could ask him.

Big fan of that Bricky. Love some Bricky. This is the thing. The more jokes you make about it, you're going to make it more weird. I just moved on. I was like, his name is Bricky. And watch the figures. You were the one who was like, don't be weird, but his name is Bricky.

Yeah. I could have just been like, oh, what's up, Lou? No, because if I said Bricky and then just didn't comment on it, you'd be like, so you're just going to let that slide? Probably. Yeah, probably. All right, so look up that guy. And then books that I had read, they had wanted us to mention Brandon Sanderson. I had recently read two of the Secret Project books, Tress of the Emerald Sea and Yumi and the Night Painter.

Really good fantasy and fun and funny if you were looking to have a nice brisk read. also the Bright Sword by Lev Grossman I had recently read people have just wanted a couple of fantasy books recommendations as well and yeah that's me. Anything else that people yelled at things at you for, Jomey, before we go?

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with Kerm, Kerm, how's it going? What's up, guys? You literally brought your big comic books bag out here. My backpack has way too many comic books in it at a time. I'm going to be honest with you. There's plenty I haven't read, plenty I have read.

I just, I keep it on me. So, all right, you would mention this when I came into the studio. If you were to get rid of all of the X-Men comics that are currently in your bag, how many comics are in there? Right now, I would guess less than 10. Okay. And there's probably like 30. I would guess total comics in my bag right now.

Okay, I love that. So you're a Wednesday warrior. You've got pretty much everything known to man At least when it comes to X-Men in the bag And you're going to be giving us a couple of recommendations here Why don't you kick us off with some of the things That you had been reading recently Because the end of the Krikowa era

For the X-Men kind of brought us a lot Why don't you talk to us about that? Yeah, we're in the From the Ashes era And it's a lot of X-Men out, man I thought, you know, with this reset, a new era Would cause for, you know, less comic lines but I feel like they're just, they're riding the waves. So I guess I'll start with one of my favorite, I guess, X-Men titled comics.

They have currently three teams. They have adjectiveless X-Men lineup. They have uncanny. But what I want to focus on today is exceptional X-Men, which stars Kate Pride as essentially this new leader of the X-Men, whether she wants to be or not. You know, it takes place in Chicago, which is cool. I know you're from Chicago, Steve. And what's really fun about this comic for me is the way, fun is probably the wrong word.

But what really draws me in is the way that it's kind of speaking towards, you know, strategies and mental health. You know, and issue number one, Kate deals with like an anxiety attack outside of work and kind of showing. the process to kind of get back to her normal self, and that is also repeated in issue number two, where she's teaching a younger mutant, the same thing. But yeah, this, this comics is really, you know, it's refreshing. That's the best way I'll say it. Like, it, in the fact that it's not, oh, this is already 10 X-Men members, you know, whether that's your Wolverines, your gambits, your rogues, night crawlers. It's Cape Pride, Emma Fraud. and what looks to be a bunch of, you know, teenage mutants just now discovering their powers,

which I'm looking forward to the journey. We're about two issues in so far. I believe you guys have read it, right? You guys read exceptional? I've read exceptional. This one, it feels like, so after this Krakawa era ends, it seems like that there's just kind of been a lot of like casting of the wind to X-Men as we know it, and then we kind of like all have to pick up the pieces of where their stories leave off.

for Katie Kate Pride it seems like she's kind of just kind of getting back into her own as a like lack of better turn human as a human and living a life that is devoid of X-Men drama in all of its facets while she's seemingly picking up a sort of mantle

of a leadership role kind of a mentor right right so it's the mentorship it's almost being like thrust upon her and I should mention in the Krakawa era what Kate went through was like otherworldly. She really had to dive into the shadow cat persona and was essentially murdering a lot of motherfuckers. Like, killed a lot

of people. So I think that's why there's so much focus on the mental health aspect of Kate in this comic because it's like she just went through a lot. So it makes sense why she's so reluctant to be a mutant now or to be a mutant leader, an X-Men leader now. But it's like the next generation, she needs you in the same way. You were the baby sister to everyone on her X-Men team when she was growing up. Now, you know, you're like probably like 30-something.

You know, they don't say ages within these comics, but you probably like 30-something. Yeah, she's up there a little bit. Yeah. You old enough to pass off wisdom to the next generation, whether you like it or not. That's kind of the premises for this comic. Jomi, how did you feel about this kind of being a bit more of a slice of life in the world of a mutant type of story rather than like the rah-rah action type of stuff that we would have been getting. Because there's a lot of just like live in your life and then you occasionally run into a kid that's in trouble type of scenarios.

Well, it's good for Kitty Pratt because like you said, she's been in the ringer for a minute. Yeah. You know, no pun intended. But, you know, it needs to downtime. Even if you go to a concert and people start shooting and whatever, you know what I'm saying. Like you got to take what you can get. And I think she'd take this over all the nonsense she was gone with earlier. Right? I think my big question, and this is for you, Kerm, why is Emma Frost the way that she is?

First of all, before you've even asked this, I would say I'm not changing a hair on her head. Yes, I love Emma Frost. She's great. So Emma Frost, like, I feel like her through line, whether she's been a villain or who she is now is like kind of a hero to mutants, but also somewhat of a, you know, very much bossy, mean girl type of inner. She's always been a teacher first, though. And so I think in issue number two, without spoiling it too much, it's almost like she's forcing the mantle of teacher onto Kate, whether she likes it or not, because that's just Emma has always wanted to be a teacher

and a leader of mutants. And through the Krokoa era, Kate and Emma Frost got so close. And Emma Frost saw greatness within Kate that it just doesn't make sense. that Kate is so reluctant that Emma's going to force her. And I do kind of like the dynamic, and I'm interested to see how this kind of runs the comic in the future where it's like, Emma, again, isn't always on the side of the natural good, right? Like, she's going to do whatever it takes for mutant kind,

whether it's considered evil or righteous. And so having her balanced with Kate Pride, I think that's just a combo that should be really fun when you throw in a lot of these young teenage mutants with new powers and all that. So, yeah. I mean, it looks like there could be a lot of fun to be had in the next couple of issues. So I'm really excited. But, yeah, I mean, like, the first one ends.

And Emma's, like, going through all the mutant storm, Wolverine, no. Oh, get bread. How it sounds like, this could be a good time. And then the second issue ends and she's, like, at her door controlling. Yeah, controlling all the teenage mutants where it's like, see, that's my point where it's like, that's, you know, you're taking away their free will, but it's for ideally their safety in terms of getting Kate involved in this and making a whole school

for these young mutants. Yeah. Not the best way to do it, right? I just love how immediately after this, they're like, all right, let's go to recruitment, let's get the roster set up, we're going to find a school, we're probably going to build a new team within like, you know, a month or two. Like, let's get back in the lap. Whether Kate likes it or not. Yeah, I love that. So we might not have time to talk about all of the other X-Men comics that have come out from this, but you've been reading a couple.

Yeah. Anything that we wanted to look out for, things that might have been catching your eye, because we've got a lot of first issues, a lot of second issues. So, yeah, I don't want to go too deep into the weeds. Another issue that I just read, Storm Issue 1, written by, I'm definitely going to butcher this name. He is an African writer, Morewa, Iodelli, and the artist Lucas Warnack, who's become one of my favorite artists. in the past, you know, two years with his stuff on Immortal X-Men.

And so this, without going too deep into it, this would be a quick one, I swear. Storm is in Atlanta. That's where she's kind of been displaced. It feels racial, right, Jomey? It definitely feels racial. But it works. It works, though. In terms of Storm...

Why come she be in Nashville? You know, Tallahassee. I think Atlanta works, so, for what Storm represents, because it's not like Storm is just a walking stereotype of black women. It's the fact that she is

considered, you know, classy and truly considered a goddess. And, you know, Atlanta is the epicenter of just, you know, black culture. So you get, you know, all different brackets of, you know, wealth in these black communities in Atlanta.

So I think it's a perfect fit for her. But in this comic series, essentially Storm is like playing the role of like almost like a mutant ambassador, but is also a lot more vulnerable than she's been in the past. Like, Storm has never really died. While almost every other X-Men has died and come back to life, she hasn't. And they're playing with the idea of while she is this all-powerful, you know, mutant or

goddess, whatever you like to refer to her as, she doesn't have a healing factor. She can die and kind of playing with that. So that, only one issue of that, but really exciting stuff. Other X-Men stuff, you know, the adjective-less X-Men comic is pretty good. It comes out biweekly. For what? There's no adjective. So it's just X-Men.

You call it the adjective-less. It's kind of an important distinction, actually. Most X-Men comics, they tend to put an adjective in front of it. So you got like uncanny, new X-Men, astonishing X-Men. Like, they tend to do that. So I just said adjective-less X-Men, just saying it's just X-Men. And that, you know, that team led by Scott Summers, pretty good standard X-Men.

If you're looking for a real superhero team, X-Men stuff, that's there. Uncandy, led by Rogue, also pretty solid. I'm gonna be honest, for the listeners, if you're really tapped into the From the Ashes era, feel free to hit me up and let me know what other comics I should be checking out from this era, because there's a lot of shit out, man. I have not read X-Force. I haven't read X-Factor. I just started reading the solo Wolverine. Dazzler has a solo comic now. Wow. There's so many, you know, it's just a lot to sift through. So feel free to just hit me up on Twitter, on Instagram, and be like, I read these first two issues. I think it's worth it.

They gave Dazzler a comic? They did. They did. That's what they're like, they're cutting checks right now. Everybody got a comic. Rock stars got a superhero comic, you know, it doesn't matter. So X-Men is in a hefty, healthy place right now. Clearly.

But those are, I'll stick with, you know, exceptional. and Storm as well as, oh, and one more. NYX also really good. I think I mentioned that on Ringer recommends. But yeah, that's, I think it for the X-Men stuff for me. What else we want to talk about? All right. I'd say, let's get to something that you read, Jomey.

You're up on our Ultimate Spider-Man, yes? Yes. Let's talk Ultimate Spider-Man. Still ongoing. Here's the thing. Amazing. Spectacular. Ultimate, some might say.

It's, you, Kerm, we might have been talking about this on a pod or out for the pod, I can't remember. But in, I think it was like the fourth issue, he meets Harry. Right. And then it just changes, right? The whole tenor, the thing changes. Their relationship, like their back and forth is carrying that series right now. And I'm loving every second. It really is.

From what I've read I think that that's actually The Strength of this And it's because When we're eventually going to get our Big superhero battle between What seems like might be queuing up for like Harry v. Peter

v. Kingpin The context under those things Are going to completely change Yeah And I really like the idea Because I'm going to talk about another comic series that it's going to be like fundamentally changing

something about a character in order to make something different yet familiar. I think this is like something that is while still not breaking a mold necessarily, it's very refreshing and very, very intriguing to see just the perspectives of characters that have more or less been either outright evil or misunderstood. I understand every character

and their motivations in this. and I think that's the mark of a good writer and a good creative team that understands what can make each character tick not only in their core ways but making those different ways still true to who that character is. Yeah, I love how Jonathan Hickman uses

their super suits as kind of a way to pry into the heads of Harry and Peter's, like, with their motivations. You know, Spider-Man's suit is essentially Peter, his narrator, like their suits talk to them, I should mention if you guys haven't read the comic. So for Spider-Man, his narrator is another Peter Parker, essentially.

So he's talking to himself. So you understand that, like, you know, his main focus is doing right in the way we know Spider-Man to be and his love for his family, while Harry's suit is his dad, Norman Osborne, who's passed, kind of bullying him in the same way.

He would in real life. Yeah, in the same way we've seen in like the Sam Ramey movies the way. Do you just hear Willem Defoe's voice in this? Because I just do. I do. That's what I'm about saying. It feels so much like the Willam Defoe kind of arguing with himself in the Sam Ramey movies. Yeah, nothing. Yeah, I love it so much. And just seeing these two ideologies clash where it's like, Harry is willing to do whatever for the cause of taking down Kingpin. If niggas got to die, niggas got to die. While Peter very much is, again, traditional. And we're not killing nobody. It's all about, you know, protecting people.

And we'll take down Kingpin, but like we can't kill these lowly criminals just because. And you know it's going to come to a head sooner rather than later. And the way Jonathan Hickman's built it out for, you know, nine months now has been amazing to watch. I love it. I think it's great. It's going to be consistently good. I think once we're waiting for either a big reveal or a big fight or a big revelation to happen, this is just still cooking. It's really, really good.

All right. I'm going to be talking about, I'm going to be switching gears over to D. So we had the launch of the absolute universe from DC, and that's basically kind of having the same philosophy as the ultimate universe over in Marvel, where each series is kind of fundamentally changing one aspect about either a character's origin or their power set or their character to turn something on its ear

to make something new. And it more or less began with the Ultimate Batman comic that has been like much, much, much hyped discussed like honestly I'm reading this because of TikTok. I'm reading this because it first started. I'm got to get it because of TikTok. Right. So it starts off with

people getting pissed off about a Batman logo because it just looks like a big thick bat that's just like a couple of slashes which I think still look cool. And then it changes it to he looks, his proportions look ridiculous and the only thing that's really changed

about his origin is that he grew up working class and not rich. And that's kind of the impetus for the starting of this book, but it's a lot more than meets the eye here. Jomi, what did you think about this as a sort of alt narrative to Batman? And did you like it? I liked it. What I think of an alt character or alt being to Batman,

why does he have an axe? Because it's fucking cool. That's why. Because fuck you, that's why it's cool. Chop up. His fucking... Chop up his hands off. His Batman logo.

comes off and it's the blade of an axe. He tries, Hey, sorry about your hand. But I'm also not sorry. Othroat three bucks down. Go get that fixed or you might die. Like,

I don't really give a shit. I don't care. You know, I mean, it's fun. I think what was more interesting for me, honestly, is seeing Alfred like that.

Alfred's like Asian 47. Yeah, right? And he's like going to safe houses and watching from, you know, skylines. He's got a whole rack of guns

and like he's a secret agent. Do not engage. So Alfred's like the Punisher. Is that what I'm here? Kind of, yeah. Interesting. But he's got like a boss and whatever. And the comic does this thing that every comic,

or not every comic, but every Batman story does. And it's that if you don't have the Joker in it, you're going to have some guys. But we're all right. Which, okay, like every five of my being would be mad about this. See,

but I kind of dig it. This is why I hate you. You'll be picking and choosing when stuff is corny and when it's not corny. I know. And that's just how, as is how I roll. Sometimes it sucks.

It'd be corny as hell. And you'd be like, you know what? I think what they do with the Joker and this, I won't spoil too much, but it looks great. But I think the star of this

is very much the art. I want to shout out the creative team behind this. Written by Scott Snyder, art by Nick, Dragata, and coloring by Frank Martin. The art in this is incredible.

I think Batman's design is fantastic. It looks like, it's a little edge of lordy. He looks a little bit like spawn. He's just like a seven foot tall brick shit house. Yeah. And he's got like spikes on the back of his cowl. He has this like sort of like stilt aesthetic thing where like you know how bats kind of walk on their hands with their arms? He walks like that sometimes when he's fighting people. I think it's the art is astounding.

And I think that this is a really cool, fun iteration of Batman. Is it over the top and kind of ridiculous, sure, but I don't care. It looks really, really cool. And it's fun. And unlike a Spawn comic, he shows up in the first actual issue. And I wasn't, and I'm still mad about that. So, I have a question for you guys. In this

comic, Alfred goes through his whole history, Bruce Wayne's whole history. Sure. And Bruce Wayne was on track to be like a all pro NFL player. Sure. But he faked an injury. But he faked an injury. He faked an injury in college. It's like he could go and do Batman.

stuff. Yeah. So my question for you guys is, would you rather be an all-pro Hall of Fame NFL player or Batman? Well, you got, well, like Batman in all universes, you got to be a little silly in the head to not either be rich or a NFL prospect. Are you saying that Batman has CTE? I, no. He definitely does. He definitely does. So when you say Batman, do you mean absolute Batman or like Bruce Wayne, billionaire, Playboy? No, well, this absolute Batman, grew up working class and was like genius level in school and like a like all-star athlete. So yeah, so I'm essentially asking.

So the question you're asking is in this universe. Oh, definitely going to the NFL. The fuck. You know, Gotham, y'all can figure it out. I'm going to go move on. Get my mom out of Gotham. Get her in the metropolis. Oh my gosh.

I'd even think about that. Your mom's still in Gotham? You could have been, you could have been a Sunday night legend. You know what I mean? You could have made millions of dollars. Forget even the support of it. The endorsements, all that stuff. You could have moved your mom out of Gotham,

put her in Bloodhaven at least. You know what I'm saying? Which is crazy to think that a place called Bloodhaven is better. You know, maybe not marginally, but it's definitely, the Joker ain't there each week. You know what I'm saying?

You could have moved it to Metropolis, gave her a nice apartment. Yeah, on the Upper East Side. I want to chop off some hands, yo. No, that's crazy. I want to chop off some hands. What is, wait, what is, what is, what is,

What does Bruce Wayne's commitment video look like? Does he have the line of hats out? Damn, where does Bruce Wayne go to college? Where does Bruce Wayne go to college? What's a good program? I mean, you put him in LSU? You know, he's been like S.C.? I mean, Bama, I would love if you went to S.C.

I don't say, obviously for me. But he seemed like... He's like, oh, did they say his position? I don't think he said his position in the comic itself. I think he had the ball, though, right? In the comic. He had the ball. So he might have been running back.

or something. But he's built like an O-Lyman. Like he's huge. About like six, three. Oh, he probably be the greatest tight end of all time.

Oh, tight-in. Oh, actually, duh. Have you guys seen that graphic of the,

of the football players? But like, it's like, Anakin at wide receiver two, Spider-Man. Oh, yeah. Out of wide receiver one. Let me take something.

Bro. That man's getting blown up. Oh, my God. Quick slats. Oh, my God. Quick slats. Let me tell you something. Because, first of all, they got like Gojo.

Right. But like that, the defense is going to win that matchup 10 times out of 10. So I love Spider-Man. You have Flash at fullback. It's not how to. I don't understand who came up with that. If powers are still an issue. You're running an eye formation.

You know, what you have to do. He's running back. He's giving somebody a stiff arm in this thing. You need to, you get that spread offense, man. Get Batman out on somebody. Have him guard somebody in space. he's getting dusted, right? Sure.

But as a middle linebacker in like actual reality, he'd be like Ed Reed plus Brian Erlacker plus yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Plus Ray Lewis, like just a gene. Like he'd be like... All three of them built together. He would be like, yo, they're coming, they're running digs, he's on a wheel.

Like, he'd just be orchestrating the defense like crazy. You would never, ever, ever get something on, like, on him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That level. Like, he'd be going back. Like, Peyton Manning would be easy for him. It would be light work. Yeah, yeah.

Try to diagnose a Payne Manning offense. And, like, just from this one panel, by the way, like, you only see one panel of Bruce Wayne playing football. He's like a foot taller than everybody on the field. Like, it's nuts. Should have been to go to. Imagine. He's a beast.

He used to play with Bruce Wayne. He'd see the bad man going on. But like, hey, don't that, who that, don't that look like? Yeah. He played football. He played football. Yeah. He got, how what's his name?

Bill? a Ben some Wayne to something like that I forgot But a good comic They throw the Joker at the end there Because of course they do Because of course they do

Because of course they do Because I like what they did with it You don't like it when they did that In the Batman movie though No But it was the Joker You know what I mean When the movie does it

Boom When the comics do it Because it looks cooler Because it looks a little cool You didn't like Mr. Expresso With the makeup In that one? What's, uh, what's his name?

Oh, I got to jump. Because he was named Sabrina Carpenter. Oh, oh, Barry Coat. Yeah, he was. He was. You're not anymore. Mr. Espresso. Mr. Espresso. Now, listen, I would be Mr. Espresso.

You would be Mr. Espresso? I understand. Oh, wow. Lineage. Whoa, Steve. Oh, okay. Mr. Espresso. Wow.

Steve. I mean, he's Irish coffee at that point. Jesus Christ. Oh, my God. All right, absolute Batman. I'm really having a blast with this. This is really fun. I, I really dig it.

I'm probably going. going to check out the absolute universe. I was talking to Charles a little bit about this too because he was talking about this before, but it's been a minute since DC has been trying to get an ultimate-esque universe off the ground,

a la Marvel, and it really only lasts for a little bit, and then it kind of dies off. So, I don't know. I think that this looks pretty good, and I'm having a blast with it. I mean, it's certainly better than, like, a new 52, if anybody had partaken in that. Everybody hated the new 52. Everybody hated the new 52.

and this seems like something I'm digging quite a bit and then I wanted to bring into the DC universe again Zatana bring down the house which is coming out Kerm you read this a little bit too what were your thoughts about this because Zatana not exactly getting a lot of play

nowadays yeah issue one I read and for me the biggest thing that stuck out was really the color the art in general but I just love the way it's it's colored so shout out It's a gorgeous. Shout out to Javier Rodriguez. They went stupid. Yeah.

It's really, it just, I love the art. That was the biggest takeaway. And it seems, it seems fun. I think I'm going to stick around. As long as Javier Rodriguez is doing art, I think I'm going to stick around. Yeah. I think the key to this is a fun, breezy time. If any, if you had, did you check out, a human target when I recommended it a little while ago?

I think I bought Ivan ready yet. Similar artwork, different artists, but like that very much. much like 50s 60s aesthetic where there's a lot of like bright vagusy colors with these like slick suit wearing types very heisty very classy very like fun clean polished look to these one-off titles and like I had pre-ordered the trade that's going to be coming out for this in the collection I've been reading this as often as I can I genuinely love it when a like unbeknownst to me character gets like I get a crash course in like what their vibe is and it's and it's down from the art from the writing from each panel interaction to her dad pretty much just being Dr. Strange while

she just wanted to be like a street magician and just like trying to take money from kids. I think this is a wonderful time. Jomi did you take a look at this yet or no. I did not read that because I'm too busy reading Dream the life and legacy of Akima Lajuan. by one Mirren Fader. Now this is not a comic book, but we're plugging the homies. But plugging the homies, brother. Maren is legitimately one of my favorite writers at the ringer. But I mean, just in general as well, I don't know if you guys read her Janice book,

but that was amazing. I have read her Janus book. It was very, very, very good. And so she was like, yeah, we write about the dream. A Nigerian homie, what? Actually, back to back Nigerians. Shout out Miron. Represent the people.

Got a had to lock in. So you already know, check it out. Wherever books are sold, dream, the life and legacy of Akema Lajuan by Mir and Fader. Guys, go to your local bookstore and get one. Stay heat. It's really, really good. It's good. Hell yeah.

All right. That's going to be almost it for us. Anything finalists to declare, recommend, or give to the people before we leave when we get out of here. So we got to, like, go through TSA? What do you mean, declare? Like, where are you? I mean, declare your intent to share the intent. I'll just say again, like, real shit.

shit though. If you are reading the other X-Men titles, please DM me or like, yeah, DME at me on Twitter, because it's just too much right now. Like, I really don't want to touch X Factor, but if it's good, I'll do it. So just tell me what's good and what isn't. Give me your opinions at me, at Jonathan Carmel on everything, I'm pretty sure. So yeah, hit me up. All right. That'll do it for us. We are going to be out of here real soon. We got to, we need a YouTube secret YouTube comment. Secret YouTube comment.

What did we like here? Garbonzo beans. Oh, I thought it's something about Bruce Wayne's football career. What would be the secret the secret password

for Bruce Wayne on routes? Bruce Wayne. That's a Bruce Wayne route? Bruce. We need, man. Target Bruce or some shit like that? I don't know.

Stuff. Because like in basketball, you know, he was like, What is? I saw Bruce. I saw Bruce. You know, but in football, I never... Hot Route Bruce Wayne.

Hot Route Bruce Wayne. That's perfect. There we go. Hot route Bruce Rain. Bruce Ryan. Yeah, we've been recorded for too long. Yeah, we have. But it's a good tongue twister, and that's a good comment for us.

Hot Route Bruce Wayne. All right, well, on top of that, check out everything that's going on in the ringerverse. Tomorrow, the men I boys are going to be giving you their instant reactions to Agatha and recapping Penguin. And on Friday, the House of Arr is going to give you their deep-dyeyeye into Agatha as well. We are produced by the great Jonathan,

Kerma, the additional production by Arjuna, Ramgapal. Jomi, parting words for the people. Love you guys. Thank you all for listening. Hopefully you check out some more stuff and yell about, yell it again back to us,

either that you're happy that we talked about your stuff or you watched it and you thought it was awesome. Okay. Thank you again for listening. We got to give a shout out to our wonderful producer. our guy, Victor Wemben Kermah. All right.

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