The Rising’s Growing Together Podcast - Adulthood Hits You FAST! Boozy Breaks, Teen Drama & Mum Life Mayhem

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

In this week’s episode, we’re diving headfirst into the wild reality of adulthood: parenting teens, planning that epic 18th birthday bash, managing illness, and sneaking in a work trip to Majorca all while trying to keep our sanity intact. We spill the tea on our lives, from the highs and hangovers to the heart-to-hearts, and discuss what happens when life speeds up just when you need it to slow down.The girls are back after a little summer break, and they're sharing some hilarious stories about pretending to have a tantrum to get their way in public! From banks to supermarkets, they're testing the limits of funny fails. Is this seeking validation? Listen to their stories!

Welcome back, everyone. I'm back. I bet you all think that we disappeared off the face of the air. Oh, we're back. It's summer, right? Yeah, well, after an unplanned two-week break. Yes. We are back.

It wasn't planned, but I kind of sent our tech guide to England. Yeah. Then we've been ill and then, yeah, the last two weeks has kind of just run away with us, but we're back. And to be fair, I think, midway through the year, first little break we've had. And it felt ages. I genuinely feel like I've not seen you for a month. Yeah, it felt ages and even not just seeing you, even doing this, I chat, do you know what I mean?

It's only been two weeks, but it feels like we've not done this for a month. But also, we've done a lot in them two weeks. Yeah, well, we always seem to do a lot in a week. But yeah, it's been a busy two weeks, probably more so than other weeks, which is why we've, it took a while to catch up. Yeah. I've said our, our, um, back up support wasn't here. And then we've both been ill.

Well, last time we see each other, it was pre-Benerdorm going out. It was anxious, should we say, about having a three. Really nervous about going out and drinking for the first proper time. Yeah, it was a good. So, yeah, Benadorn was really good. We did like a bingo thing, didn't we? Yeah, it was called, well, I thought it was called bingo bongo, but that's, I think, the English one. Yeah, this one was boom bingo or bingo boom or something, which...

I didn't agree, none of us won. I know, it was a shame, really. we didn't we didn't get anything but no it's good they had like we only had like a couple games of it and then yeah people that got like the line or the house or whatever you had to go on stage because there's two three people that all won at the same time so it's obviously a little bit placked then you had to compete like a little challenge on stage like you know put a costume on a dance as the thing in the costume stuff so yeah it would have been a right laugh if one of us had to go up there and it would have been one of us because out of six of us

three people that already said it's not going to be me I'm not going on stage and nominated me you and another friend of ours so but that was

we still went up there in the end didn't we we did the conga and the macarana and the you did the conga I went to the bathroom and the other one

da da da da da da da da is that we were doing yeah it was be my baby that one makes me feel like I'm nine again It did have proper, like, campsite, like, vibe where, like, you've got the disco and stuff, but that was good. There was some drag people there and music.

It was a good starter, because it was an early one. Yes, it kicked off the evening because it was it six o'clock or something? Six started, wouldn't it? Yeah, yeah. So that's, like, it was a good starter. Yeah. To carry on if you wanted to. Yeah.

Which we did. It was fun. We did. We carried on. I think the first place we went to after that was a little mixed tribute. Yeah, well, we stopped at McDonald's first because I needed some nuggets. Well, me and you ate, obviously, of so, yeah. You walk out and it's there, and after a drink, you're like, oh, okay, I'll love that.

Yeah, I'll love that, please. So, yeah, me and you ate, which is like the longest McDonald's ever. They kept sweating for ages. It was quite long in there. Just for, like, chips and nugget. I did, yeah. And I was like, oh, yeah, no, but nice. It's starting already.

It was nice. Yeah, so we had McDonald's. Then we went to the Little Mix Tribute. Yeah. there was two there was two of them yeah but I have to say one of them was sick though

I thought how could you have a little mixed tribute with only two of you but they did say I have to say they were good singers yeah I think they were singing I wasn't that driven though yeah no they were singing yeah I'm trying to think now like yeah no they just made this thing up

they were singing and they had like dance routine as well and they got changed and had different outfits yeah I mean the only thing that annoyed me was that they didn't sing it like them you're a tribute band they sang it like their own way

which if you want to be your own singer be your own singer but if you're doing a tribute and you're dressed like them and you're trying to imitate them especially when they're like it's popular songs you know when like you listen to a cover version and it's like it's like a bit like I'm going to the only one I can think of right now is it like a Ronan Keaton when he's like I'm mad or what you know you've got a thing like that

You can't be like, no matter what I tell you. Do you know what I mean? Just doesn't have the same effect, is it? Yeah, you've got to do the boys as they do it. Like, don't change and do rifts or all these weird singing things. But no, they were good singers. They were. And that was good to watch.

It was a good stop off. It was a good stop, start, have a couple drinks. And then we went on, did we go straight to that last? But we were in basically one bar all night. Yeah, we did. I think we stopped at a shop at some point. I don't know why. I don't, because nothing's that far from each other.

though. We got a drink on the way didn't we? I don't really know why we did that. We stopped for a drink on the way to a bar when everything's very, very good. Yeah, it only takes the five minute water to get there. And then we went to, what was that place called? Yeah. Which was, uh, that was really, that was, quite packed.

Initially, I was a bit, the first, yeah, when we went in and walked up to the bar, I was like, this is too busy for me. I'm not going to be comfortable here. We've got no table. We've got no, like, corner, like, no space. And I feel like something's going to start. Yeah, well, there's just everyone's on top of you. and like we weren't that drunk at that point It's like all it takes is for someone to like keep bumping to you

And it'll piss you off At first I was like oh I don't know if we're going to be able to stay here But um no then we ended up getting a little bit of space And some good songs come on And we just stayed Yeah it was good And that was it Yeah long walk home up the hill

God yeah we were like up a proper incline of a hill And I was trying to eat my KFC as I was walking It's like I forgot we got KFC We got KFCC the minute the door was closing They must have hated us. It was a very, you know, we made cook for us. It was closing.

Yeah, it was literally like one minute too. And I was like, oh, are they not closed? And then I think Em was like, we got three minutes or something. And I was like, okay. Oh, they're done. Yeah, so we went in and then all ordered meals, like, have to stay open for another 15 minutes. And it's a very clean KFC, to be fair.

Well, I mean, I was ready for a kebab. Yeah. But then the general consensus was a KFC, which I like KFC anyway. So, yeah, but trying to eat and walk up a steep hills, not very easy. No. I did start my meal actually in caretsey while everyone was waiting for that. Okay, then we got back out. We did have to leave.

And then when the final meals in it, we all had our stuff. So I think I ate like bits of it and then I had my burger up there. And then the next day here and I was dreadful. Yes, yes. Because you actually let loose to be fair. I did. Like normally it's me the one that's like more drunk than everyone and having fun. And I think that's surprise you all.

Oh shit. I need to watch what I'm doing now because I actually did slow down. a bit like she's not slowing down yeah I don't know well there was plenty of us so it's not like you know if you're out we're just one or two of you and one of you's really drunk you've got to be the one that's responsible it wasn't like that but I just naturally I don't know if it's because we weren't like near home and I think just naturally I didn't get to that level you did I did which was nice because like I said to you that like it's been a long time since I've seen you really just let loose yeah no it was fun it was like normally I don't even notice you

tipsy. No, but I was. You was, yeah. But nice, not like, oh God, she's drunk. You weren't falling over. You weren't drunk, drunk. But yeah, you were definitely tipsy. Like, you could see that, yeah, you was having fun.

Yeah. But just the next day, I was dreadful when we were. I thought I was going to be hanging. Yeah. You're usually the one that suffers quite bad. I'm normally, yeah, because I'm normally, because I'm normally drinking too much. Doesn't know when to stop when I'm having a good time.

But normally it gets me that night, but like, I think because we'd ate on the way and then I'd eight before going to bed which really helps and like I'd I was going to say I was steadily drank but I drank quite a few different things as well and that's normally not great I was on southern comfort I think I had uh beer maybe even a cocktail I did I had mahito so I've yeah changed my drink quite a bit but I was and some shots I think there's some shots you ordered shots I'd do that yeah I normally do that as well when you're like Does anybody else do that? You know, when you're never going to have a shot.

Yeah, and then the next day, who? Did you. Yeah. No, well, we're similar like that. When it's like, everyone's at that, like, fun bit, I just, that's when I just don't know when to stop. And then it hits me too hard, but luckily it didn't. And the next day, I actually was okay. I was tired.

I was groggy. Like, I knew I drank the night before. Yeah, you're thinking you're going to get your full night now. But I thought I was going to be really ill. And, you know, when you're like, oh, and we had an hour drive home. So I was like, oh, my God. but you were feeling wrong. I don't, that's, I'm, well, I haven't been like that for a while,

but, you know, when you think I don't know how I'm going to get in the car and go, I'll just sit here, do you know what I mean? I couldn't even sit there. I literally couldn't even sit anywhere, could I? No. Literally was in the toilet. Yeah. Oh, God, it makes horrible now.

But miraculously, I don't know how, but I got in that car, which I wasn't driving, obviously, because I definitely couldn't drink anybody home. I got in the car and it just kind of, which I'm surprised because that was, the bit I was dreading because car drives anyway, especially in the back and just generally, obviously. And it just disappeared. It was just like, oh, I thought, yeah, and you pulled up behind us as we, like, nearly got home

and I just thought you'd be, like, dead in the car asleep. And I could see you waving. I was like, wow, she's alive. She's alive. It was so weird. So I got home and all of you said, like, a little siesta or whatever or a cheer. Yeah. I didn't even have a siesta.

I just carried on. Then that messed me up, obviously. But yeah, I was fine, you know, not like I was in the morning. But you probably had nothing left to give it. If I was like that for the rest of the day, I don't think I would never go out in my life again. That would completely put me up. But now I feel like I'm, what's the word, like untouchable. Unasset.

Let's do it again. Well, we've got birthdays next month. So we have. That'll probably be the next time now. Because we'll meet up and we'll do things with the kids through the summer. No, but to have a lot of plans night out. A bit wildish. It will be birthdays.

Yeah. It's not long. No, we're already like mid, mid-July. Yeah, so that's the next one. Yeah. So obviously what else we got up to, like I said, we'd sent our backup support tech genius to England. But anything in particular, did he have a... No, so it's a wedding or a funeral, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah. Someone said that to me the day, actually. I only go back through the happy or sad occasions. But no, it was just kind of unplanned last minute. Obviously, we were coming into the start of summer, like no routine or like having the kids and all of that. And I just saw cheap flights. So I called his friend in England because, yeah, out.

Yeah, he's got friends here. But I'd say like his close mates, which is like us in England. So, you know, it's different. Like, you need, you need that, like, checkpoint catch up and, like, let off steam kind of thing. And, you know, when you feel like you need it and you have that, like, catch up of your friends, like, it's great. You're ready again, yeah. Yeah, it gives you, give you a bit, feel, yeah. So, yeah, no, not that anything was wrong, but I think, obviously, being back at work,

Liam's been doing the majority of the childcare in the day. Hayden is a full on. Well, that's, isn't it? We talk about moms, us, being drained and tired and this and that, but, well, I know for me and you, and a lot of others, actually, and it's becoming more common in a way, that that they are doing a lot of, say, our roles, so I don't mean it like that, but, you know. The traditional roles have changed. So whereas people think, like, oh, moms need a break because generally the traditional way

everything was on their shoulders well we split a lot of it but obviously he's took the brunt of the childcare because I've been doing obviously being back at work and working so yeah I just thought it'd be nice to and we take our breaks whether that's us going to Benadourm

well that's it we had a thing in Benadour yeah you know we do our podcast we had random dinners and stuff and I just thought like Liam hasn't really had anything fun for himself or to look forward to so yeah I just called his friend and he's like yeah well first of all I was like can I fly you here and then he was like I've got these stuff going on um what about if he comes to me and I was

actually it's probably better because if he's here then it's going to be like yeah we're still all around and still having to pitch in and stuff so that actually that'll do that'll do better and then because I've got long weekends I was like I'll send in to you Thursday um after work and then yeah then he can stay till I think he's done like Thursday till Saturday. Yeah, nice. So two nights away, three days. So, yeah, it was nice for him to just have a break, do something fun, go out of his friends. They had some nice Jamaican food, which I'm so jealous about. There's a really nice, like, lunche luncheat place in Portsmouth. That's, yeah, like more lunchtime things, like Shack

vibes, but like proper food. They went, I think, twice. So I'm so jealous. So, yeah, they go for food, they go to casino, hang out with their friends and there's like two of them in England and just after I booked that because we were thinking about going to England in August anyway just to see my mum and dad

and then one of his friends announced he's getting married in August. So then I was like right okay so that's nice. You can obviously catch up with him do your boys thing and then the week that I was looking at going anyway now we definitely have to go because there's a wedding

and so we booked that. Oh, nice. So, yeah, it's nice that he obviously went and had fun when I was solo parenting. How was that? Yeah, right, actually. I thought, obviously, with the heat and stuff, it's like, oh, what shall I do with them?

But in the end, I think Thursday, like, I worked and then we went Mercadonna, like, took them out the house for just a little bit, grab some bits. I was like, I'm going to cook. I did actually, to be fair, yeah. I made it really con-coni, actually. Wow!

Which is, yeah, a bit out there for me. And I wouldn't have been bothered to do that. I know it sounds stupid, we just meet... Well, I didn't think I would be, but then, you know, we just have like a burst of energy for five minutes and I got the stuff and, yeah, and then I was like, I'll just got to do it like the next day. So, yeah, no, I think one day we just went there.

Then the next day, what did I do with them the next day? I think we went to the boulevard. Yeah, I did. I took him to the boulevard. um you found like a lego set thing that he wanted we walked around um because the sales run so i tried on a few dresses for for the wedding and stuff so yeah we just mooched about really for an hour or two got out of the house and then the last day um i went round liens and dad's to go swimming type of kids there somewhere different yeah for a bit

scenery different scenery so i did actually take them out by myself every day while um he wasn't here i don't mean i don't that sounds i don't know what the word is But, you know, like, I didn't mean, oh, good. Like, well, done, you took your own kids out. I don't mean that. Don't mean like that. Well, I mean, it's when you're, when you're, well, we're the same, you've got your things that you do.

Yeah. And it's not that you can't do them all by yourself, but obviously you're a team. So you have your own things to do. So when that person's not there who's not doing them bits and you all kind of take, that's what you know, like it's sometimes, it's not that you can't do. It's just like, I need to get used to doing it again.

Do you know what I mean? Because they're not. Yeah, because you, like you say, with us, we just naturally fall into they're your jobs, they're your jobs, these of things we do together. And like I say, we never really like a sign that we just kind of fell into it. And then we've been together that long,

we just get on a bit. But then, yeah, I was like, oh, right, so I need to prep dinner, make dinner, do the dishwasher. I don't normally do those things. And watch the kids at the same time. Which, like you say, when there's two of you, it's a lot easier. So, like, obviously hats off to all single parents out there.

Because when the kids are little I'm saying about roles now Yeah I don't know what The first start out of word to use But especially now at homes You know Tradition is not at home

You know what I mean It's we've made out our own way Do you know what I mean Of what suits and how it is And we are a team Yeah yeah yeah So I'll do the shopping I'll do the washing

It's just the washing Yeah and we like tag team right So that you take case into bed I'll take Coden to bed Yeah yeah You do bath time I make the dinner Like yeah we do that

When there was in terms, say goodnight to him and then we cross over to say goodnight to do. That's it done. Yeah, we normally like do one each and take them to bed and stuff. So, yeah, no, it was fine. Like you say, it's, you know. Shorts are a bit short, sorry, I see it.

The age gap's easy. So it's like, it's not like I'm dealing with two little kids. No, but I just mean that change. But yeah, yeah. It is obviously more. hiring. I don't like the night times because I'm not used to being on my own. Yeah. That's the thing that I don't like. Yeah. To be fair, I like locked the house up. I think I left the hallway light on, you know, like little things that... Yeah, I have to have Mason at home.

Go to stay out, please. Not they've... Not that he'll eat my bloody hair. Not they didn't do anything. He doesn't hear anything, an alarm or anything. So he wouldn't be able to say... And even if someone came in, you're not going to let Mason defend you. You would be like, get back, you know, arm them up. But no. As he towers over me. Yeah. He'd be better off, but, you know, natural of my instincts, you'd probably jump in the way anyway, so it's not even like he would help.

Unless he was a cockroach. Yeah, give me a man and I'll take him out. If it's a cockroach, Mason, help me. Anybody help me. I'd leave Lexi and go and do it. I don't even get here. Just not me. Yeah, so, but no, that was fine.

And then, obviously, that was the main weekend that we had a break because Liam wasn't here. And we're, although we're the faces of the podcast. We do nothing else with this podcast. It's literally he sets everything up, he records it, we literally sit down. I don't know how to turn it off. I think the only thing I know how to do now is click stop when we finished. And that's it.

So, yeah, we couldn't record that week. And then you went to England. Yes, I did. I went to England because Mason is turning 18. Shit. Next week. Yes. So, yeah, my boy is going to be 18, which is weird.

he's an official adult yeah yes but very proud very proud of him so yeah we went to England because for part of his birthday present we got him tickets to see 50 cent that was really good and it was nice because it was just you Mitch and him yes so obviously when you've got multiple kids it's hard to have time with he's the one-on-one so I feel like I haven't had time with Mason well saying that probably when he was a bit bit younger trying to make that time when you've got younger children but it wouldn't have been the the three of us, it would be maybe me and him and then Mitch and him. You know what I mean?

Because you have to look after the other kids, yeah, exactly. So there's not been much of the three of us. So that was really, really nice. We had a really good time. 50 cent was brilliant, like amazing. And it was good because I feel like 50 cents relevant for so, you know, he's still

relevant there and there here. You know, like 20 years ago he did a concert and all them, I don't know, 40 year olds went, if you know what I mean. And it's the same music now that my 18 year old. Well, how rare is it that you've gone with your kid to a concert, but you're both fans of the person? And we know all the songs.

Yeah. Do you know, it was, because his music just stayed, you know, relevant to every age and everyone in a way. So, yeah, that was really cool. And he was good live because you never know. Yeah. It could have ruined how I felt about him, I think. Yeah, totally.

Because people, like, it's not just singing your songs. Like, one, it's doing it live, which, like you say, you're in a studio booth, like, Yeah, singing live is very, very different. And it's like, and you've got things, doesn't it? Yeah, and you have to perform, you have to, like, capture the audience. Like, I remember my mum went for a stage when we lived in England, taking Shawnee when she was a teenager to a couple of concerts. And, like, for example, she went to Justin Bieber and she went to One Direction.

She said One Direction was shit compared to Justin Bieber because he was a performer. He had controlled the stage, it captured you, like, One direction they were okay Yeah But she said like And for her she's not a fan Obviously a Viva of them

But like she said like Yeah you just were in France Then he captured you in like the stage presence And all of that It was and the way The I don't know I don't know what you'd call it Like the animations

And all the theatrey stuff That yeah The production Yeah that's it Production and like Even the dancers I have to say The dancers

Not just for this concert But I went to even Rod Stewart, I went to see her with my mum last year. That was good, actually. But the dancers are such a big part of these concerts now. They are so much a part of the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean?

When they're doing their... Because obviously sometimes, well, most of them they go off, don't they? And then they're doing their performance. You know what I mean? And that could lose, you know, your attention in a way. But they don't. They keep it on them all the time. You're just waiting for, obviously, the person...

If they're good. Yeah, exactly. I have to say, they were good, very good. That was good. And then we was literally only there for two nights, so that was there. And then I managed to see one of our best friends, which I haven't seen in, I can't tell you when, but it wasn't planned. So what was nice... Well, it would have been since Tammy's wedding, wouldn't it?

Yeah, exactly. Do you know what I mean? It's like September. Oh, okay, yeah, but that's quite close to be fair. That's quite close considering like she's in English. And before that, it would have been years. Exactly. So it was just nice because it wasn't planned either.

Yeah. But you're not there long to plan, aren't you? No. I know, it sounds silly. It was Mason's weekend. Yeah. You know, and I wanted to make the most of that too. Yeah. So basically we were flying, we flew into one airport and we were flying out of the other and we were flying out of South End.

So Mitch had mentioned that he used to go there a lot as a kid and he had these different memories and whatever. And because we had a late fly, we'd said, well, why don't we go there for the day then? Yeah. Because it was all very close to each other parts of London and all that. You know what I mean? It was all very close. The airport and what we wanted to do. So then, yeah, my friend just said, well, I'll take you there if you want.

It'll, you know, it's literally down the road. Well, I can drive there. So she spent a bit of time with her son. So he see Mason. That was nice. They went off in the arcade. Mitch had a little walk down memory lane. Yeah, he was literally sending pictures to his mom and dad.

Like, oh, we did this. And when we did this, he felt like it was exactly the same, which was nice. Because so many places we go back to, and I don't mean they're ruined. I don't mean that. And I don't think our kids have that. Because we, wow, your kids might because you go camping and you've got that pretty. Maybe for them bits, yeah. But that regular thing.

I don't go to the same place with my kids. Exactly. Whereas I feel like, oh, we go here every summer or we go here every kind of Christmas. Whereas I feel like, you know, I had holidays going to different places. But then we also had a couple little like, you know, caravan ones. Yeah. Exactly. You know what I mean?

That have the memories and that, yeah, it is the caravan pops really that comes back. And it's the same place that we went to again and again. Yeah. But yeah, I don't feel like our kids will have that. So it's nice that. that he so we went so we so um then because our flight was quite late we then that when my friend had gone home and whatever then we did it together so we went into the arcades and um literally like two penny machines do you know what I mean it's brilliant like walking on on the beach there was

um oh god it's cool I'm not very good because I didn't go there because I don't live anywhere near um it's called Adventure Island is it I don't know something like this I could be completely wrong, like the fair thing that's there, walked around the town, Mason treated himself to a ring for his birthday, yeah, I know, yeah, I know, nice one too actually. But it was in like a jewelers

that had, it was a, one of them was like a porn broker, as it called as well. So they had like all the old jewelry we used to wear, you know, like ragdoll and clown and your earrings with the balls and... I thought I was so... Do you know, like, all of what we used to wear? And it literally just bought it.

Yeah. Like, and... tiki looking one with the and then the ragged I nearly bought some flexi I'm not going to lie you know what we would have as a kid once yeah yeah I nearly very bought them and I was like they are very pretty well I need to try on I'm on but I need to see her to see if that could you know like the low bit

if you know what I mean yeah but it really just brought me back to oh my god we're walking with loads of money on us and like solitaire rings full sovereign necks sovereign not solitaire everything yeah but what did you say sovereign

how old are we now rings, I know, I was like, that's not quite the right word, isn't it? Sovereigns, yeah. Lady sovereign. Yeah, just everything. So it just bought all that back as well, looking in the shop and realizing what we used to walk around one of us. Like, yeah, not appreciating what we had, by the way.

You know, like, literally. Yeah, yeah. So that was nice. Then we got delayed, which was long. Not too, it wasn't even hours and hours compared to some that I've heard over the . Even in the last week there's been so many delayed. like even your sister-in-law in the airport nine hours nine hours one way and then

yeah a few hours coming back exactly so we weren't too badly because it wasn't and when i went to milko i wasn't as well but it was just the time so like because you had a late flight that was the one i think it's a long day after a late flight exactly i didn't get back till four in the morning so that was long next day it killed me i'm not very good with stuff like that i've got to admit i even just flying alone sometimes makes me feel a bit oh i like it do you know like it just makes me feel like i've i don't know it just makes me feel like i've i don't know it just makes we feel just, not ill, I don't mean ill, but I just feel drained. Yeah, being on a couple of hours time.

Travelling is, travelling is really tiring. Like, even New Yorker, it's a 50 minute flight. Like, it's really not far. But by the time, it's, well, it is. It's literally, it takes me an hour to get to the airport. Then I'm in the airport for an hour. Then I fly for 50 minutes, then I get there. But yeah, it just gives me that, it's just tiring.

Yeah, it does kind of add up. Yeah. But that was that. And then, oh, and then Sunday, it wasn't very well. Kids have gone to the polar part. I was in the car on the way, going with them and everything. And Mitch, like, you're right? I was like, no, I need to go home.

Yeah, because you had nauseous for, what, a couple of days. Yeah, so that was that day I got back-ish. I think it might start when I was away, but it wasn't really anything. Because I didn't take my tablets, my belly that helped me that, all that kind of thing. I thought it was that, to be honest. And then, yeah, and then it just got worse and worse. And then I was actually sick. Do you know what I mean?

Because sometimes just feeling sick's worse. You know what I mean? Yeah, very rarely on my actually sick is normally the feeling. but yeah I have the two worst six bugs that I've ever had in my life where it's just constant and like you can't stop yourself was when I was pregnant with Kaysen

and when I was pregnant with Hayden Oh so it's pregnant then well I never had morning sickness or anything It's like you get it all now in one I think no that's a lot I did because I even remember buying bands trying to stop nauseous I had nausea from being pregnant

but this was a sickness bug like 24 hours when I was very early pregnant with Kaysen I remember thinking like, I must have been like eight weeks pregnant or something and thinking, if this is morning sickness, kill me now. And if it's not, I'm surprised with the babies still alive. Like, you can't feed up anything. Literally, I actually went to the hospital and they were like, you shouldn't really come here being like pregnant.

And I'm like, well, I'm dying. So help me. And then the second time was a really bad bug that I had when I was pregnant with Hayden, but I was a bit bigger. I think I was about six months pregnant. No, it wasn't. I must have been seven months because I remember getting a fit to fly certificate because I was going to go back to England for.

Liam's auntie's funeral and then all that night I was throwing up so I didn't go but yeah no I was sick as well last week yeah but you had you had like a you had like a COVID I reckon I had COVID yeah because about two weeks before my sister was really ill yeah and we'd seen her the day before she like you say and yeah so she she actually tested and and it was COVID I obviously don't bother tested or anything anymore so I went to bed I had a sore throat like you know like dry, a bit swollen, like, just uncomfortable. So I went to bed. Which can be normal at this time of the year with the air.

Yeah, exactly. And we've gone from, like, using it a bit to, like, using it all day, every day because it's bloody hot. Yeah. So, yeah, I went to bed with a sore throat, woke up, like, I really don't feel great. I had a couple work meetings, and then in the day I was going to, I had an appointment for Kayson's residency thing. Hayden's residency thing.

but not just me with my kids one of them yeah and then I just felt and normally I'm quite good normally I can suck it up and I can work but I was like

I can't do I actually can't work through this like I feel really bad so I ended up calling in sick to work which is very rare for me but yeah it just went downhill we got back from that appointment stopped at my mum and dad's on the way past

because Liam's been looking after their poor while they're not here and I was sat there and I was just you know when you just don't know what to do with yourself because you're like, I really don't feel good. You don't know if you're going to be sick, faint, that's exactly how I felt. And then Shawnee was telling you like, yeah, that sounds exactly like what I had.

Starts with a sore throat. Then you feel ill. And then it was like my body was hurting. So I was feeling dizzy, nauseous, like on the verge of throwing up and also, like, I feel quite lightheaded. Well, this is what you're sitting in the corner as well. Well, yeah, we wrote my mum's for like 20 minutes. I ended up saying to leave, and again, I'm normally all right with doing that. I was like, we need to leave.

Like, we need to go. I need to go home. So he was like, okay, so we left. And then, yeah, on the drive home, I was like, you know when like, you don't know what to do for something. I'm like, do I hang out the window because I actually feel like, like not just I feel nauseous, like I actually am worried that I'm not. You don't know how to go.

Because that's probably why I'm miserable to meet. You were right. That's what he started off with. Like, as we left and driving up the road, he's like, are you right? And I'm like, hmm. I can't even talk, you know, and then as we, like, carried on, then I just was getting more, and I was starting to panic, like, because I was like, I don't know, am I going to pain?

What do I do with myself? And then he was like, are you okay? And I'm like, no, no, I'm not okay. And then he was like, like, say, trying to rush home. I don't know. And then the car's, like, making you feel worse. And then we pulled up outside. And by that point, my hands has clumped.

up which like for those of you this hasn't happened to like fully clamped hands I cannot separate my fingers at this point now go back however many years this yeah so when how old were you when your appendix birth yeah so obviously being kids you must have told me this story when we were like 14 that when your appendix burst and obviously when you get to the point where it actually bursts, poison is going through your body, and it's super urgent, you get rushed in. And you told me, your hand clamped up. So that's always stuck in my head,

always, always been in my head that your hands clamped. So, yeah, I remember even random time being at college, like Liam moaned about his appendix. And I'm like, well, if your hands clamp up, you know, if you get serious, you need to get tossed up. So this has always been in my head, yeah? And then, God, a couple of years ago, this was, I was in, I was working, it was summer.

super hot. I was queuing in a bank for work and I started to feel the same thing. Really dizzy, really lightheaded. Went outside, you know, sat on the curb, really not feeling good. Don't want to be outside. So I'll come back inside. And then the same thing happened. My hands clamped up. And I'm sat on this chair and again, I'm starting to be like, what do I do with myself? I'm by myself in a bank full of about 50 people and my hands clamped up. So I'm trying to message me of like, I think I'm having a stroke. like my chest hurts like my hands are cloned up and like fully panicking like what is like genuinely thought I was dying like and this woman come over and this Guida Seville man come over as Guides Civil man come over he sat down she um I think she had wipes in her bag so she put

some wipes on my back she gave me a suite she was like suck on the suite and the guides civil man was like do you know what's happening to you I was like yeah please tell me because I just feel like I'm dying He was like, you're having a panic attack. And I was like, okay. I don't know what's happening. No. No.

So then he told me I'm having a panic attack. And I'd message Liam like, like, help. I couldn't even type and he's trying to call me. They called an ambulance. And anyway, Liam pulled up to the bank as the ambulance arrived. And then I went to the little Torbiacar Central Salud thing. So basically it's a hyperventilating, Bill. Your appendix hasn't been on.

Well, you never told me that your hands clamped because you were hyperventilate and you told me that it was because of your appendix. I must have left that. I thought that that was the poison in your body. Then that's why. So actually in that moment I thought, oh fuck. Maybe I need to go out of the spill of those poison. I'm dying. My hands are clamped. So anyway, then I then I clocked the two together. My hands clamped because I was on the verge of a panic attack. So then the same thing was in my head here. Like, then I think I was hot. and dizzy and I was going to pass out, but this was obviously, I was really ill. I had the body aches, like, and not just body aches from flu, but I actually thought my spine was, like, snapping. It was so bad, so intense. To the point that as we pulled up outside the house, I'm literally, like, I feel like my vision's gone.

Liam's left the baby in the car, and he's walking me to the front door because he's like, you actually don't look like you'd make it. And he was like, do I take you to the hospital? Do I take you home? The baby's in the car. Case is about to finish the summer school, what do I do? Who do I do? Who do I choose? He's like, who do I choose to save?

So he was flapping like, do you need to go to the hospital? And I'm like, you know, like, can't even talk. So I ended up, you brought me to the shower. And I just got in the shower and my clothes on. Wow. And then I just, for about 10 minutes, just stood there, like, trying to unclamp my hands, like, try not to faint. And then I just collapsed in bed.

That's bad, actually. Yeah. That's really bad. All day, then I was just like, yeah, tablets, hot water bottle, like... Hot water bottle? Well, because of the pain in my back. Oh, yeah. From, like, the muscle, ain't...

Well, exactly, it's hot. The last thing I want is a hot water bottle, but my... Like, the muscle pain was so intense, like, almost like having contraction. Like, it was that bad. Oh, that does sound like... And then, yeah, I just collapsed in bed and didn't move for a few hours. And then the next day, it just felt like a little bit like flu and then I was fine. But yeah.

It was touching go for a minute. My friend next. Can you take vitamins yet though? Have you had anything through? I can't remember what you said you had through. Yeah. It was just thinking. Yeah.

So I've got my tablets. So I've got my brain focus gummies, which like I say for the last week with all of what's going on, I've just been off of it. But yeah, I've got my gummy. I did start taking the gummies. To be fair, they're in the fridge and Liam's the one that's like, take it. You pay for them, you take it.

And then the other one, I haven't, but they're my digestive ones. But I took them a couple of times and they're much easier, much smaller, very easy to take compared to the other ones that I had. And that were, they obviously still help. Yeah, they must be helping. So I'm going to get back on to making sure I take them every day. But my natural geode never arrived. So I messaged them. And to be fair, instantly, they were like, oh, sorry about that.

That should have arrived by now. I've literally sent you out another one. But that's been about a week now. So I need to chase that up. So everything else has always arrived. There's just one thing hasn't. Yeah. So now I can't give your feedback on the natural deodor yet.

But yeah, I've got to start taking the other stuff, which we'll see. We'll see how it goes. But yeah, that's obviously why the second week we had off. Yeah. Because, you know, recovering from my appendix. And you was. I would have been no hope in that situation. I would just laugh.

No, actually, I would have been scared, actually. Well, Liam said Like, you're explaining You looked so ill I actually thought Maybe I should take a strict hospital Because we all do it You know when you just don't know what to do with yourself

Huffing and puffing Because it's like you feel like you're about to be sick But And someone talks to you can't talk back No Are you okay? That's what even By the end of me is like

Are you okay Like am I taking into the hospital Or you and I'm like Oh no Like That's all he got out of me to be fair But oh No, that was rough.

And then you went, you went to work away. Yeah, so then, yeah, by the time I got over that... The time I was, you recovered, then I recovered, and then you was... Yeah, so that was Thursday, I was really ill Friday, and then the weekend, like I said, I was not completely right off, but I was just getting over it. And then Tuesday, I went to Miyorka. Tuesday and Wednesday I was in New Yorker.

Did it nice? Yeah, I love my little trips to New York. I used to do it probably every four to six weeks. like pre-pregnancy and then kind of when I got pregnant and we had so much going on on the mainland for like growth of the company and stuff I ended up passing over my responsibility for meyorker to to someone else so I could stay in focus um just a coincidence that I was pregnant but we had lots going on and then being off and then going back and stuff so yeah it's been a while to try to just check everything so it should be there yeah so

in person we've got two people there now so originally um I I went over to interview. We recruited a lady there and then, you know, I was there to support her. So I was going over to help the growth and the development when we first kind of started off in Mioka. And then, yeah, she's done really well. She's grown. We've got more presence there.

Then we hired another person. And then obviously now my role's changed a bit. But instead of kind of being in charge of this area and Mioka for like sales and numbers, obviously now my roles to support in training and development for all of them so I'm still involved in working with them so I went over I spent a day with one of them the next day with the other one

which was really nice because yeah even though it's pure work literally like I think I got up at 6 in the morning left here at 7 was on a flight landed by like half 9 10 o'clock did a whole day's work I literally did a whole day's work with one of them got back to the hotel interviewed someone else

online. Showered got changed and went for dinner. Wow. Which, yeah, dinner's obviously like a bit personal. Like, it's nice with the ladies, but we are generally all talking about work. I was going to say it is, but you're still there. Yeah, exactly. And it's a full on day because it's like, it's not just, you know, 9 to 5. It was like seven till 9, 10 o'clock at night.

And then then excels with the other one. And we were like strategising plans and, you know, putting things in place. and ideas and getting systems and processes and fine-tuning stuff which was really nice because the first day it was like out doing meetings and like with someone and supporting them that way and then the other one was like all the background stuff which is fun what's the plan going forward kind of yeah exactly so it was like two very different days um but no it's really fun like say i love it it's um it feels like a bit of me time even though it's it's work and it is like full on work yeah but this role that you do in this company as well you

it's what you thrive in anyway yeah do you know what I mean you're so specialised in it that yeah well it's you love it you love your job well you get what I mean and it's that weird saying it but it is

it's true it's true and even the second day when I was with one of them when we were strategising like she's got a new big account and obviously it's her first time like managing a really big account so she's done really well like I think we're about four or five months into it

so then it was like right what's the next plans how we're going to take it to the next level and then helping her with like organization and planning and prepping like in the background. And then I was like, right. So first thing, well, we could do this, we could do that. And then she was like, are you excited? I was like, I was so excited.

Yeah, I was like, I was like, I was buzzing. And I had to like check myself. I was like, I'm in like a workspace. Like, you need to be a bit quiet. But that's brilliant. But I was like that. And to be fair, she was like, because obviously I've not been there to,

because she's more experienced. And a lot of my first six months in this role has been with people that, you know, recently joined us. less experienced, like only maybe been with us a year and she's been with us a couple. I've not really worked that closely with her yet. So she was like really happy that I've gone back and she had that feedback and that time to strategise, you know, use my experience and stuff and she felt like excited as well. Yeah, it's good.

But yeah, we were like bouncing off each other. So yeah, no, it was really nice. And I like travelling by myself. Maybe because it's easy. If I was doing a longer flight, it'd be different. But like going to the airport, get myself like something little to eat. and then sitting on the flight 50 minutes so it's like listen to a podcast and stuff

then checking into my hotel the hotel sleeps of it's hit and miss because again like when I'm actually in there I did I put a chair up against the door the balcony doors like if someone tries to get in it I'll hear the chair and then I put like you know the little stands that they give you to put your like suitcase I put that up against the front door

I left the bathroom light on so I'm not the best at being well we've had partners at 16 I've never for more than half my life now, I've not really set by myself. So, yeah, I do get a bit nervous, even in the hotels. And I'm not staying in rough places. They're generally like four-star hotels. It's just with what we're used to. But I still can't fully relax.

Yeah, it's just what we used to. Yeah, I was, um, sometimes I don't have the best sleeps, but, um, no, it's nice. It's a nice trip, like, going out for a meal, having a nice meal. And, like, New Yorker, especially when you're with people that, like, live there, it's like, we go to nice places, we go to, like, you know, a bit posh place, not posh, but, like, like, you know, nice vibes. Yeah. But they know the nice places because they live there.

Yeah. You know what I mean? It's literally knowing. Well, it's just the way things are decorated, you know, everything's just pretty. And like the co-working space we went to for the second day was this like vegan calf place which was like nice because it's, I say, weird and wonderful things that I would never eat. Yes.

But I've really enjoyed. And like, you know, just the way it's decorated really like. like not girly but yeah like just like very boho yeah like cute artsy creativey spaces bit more like cityish but it's not yeah yeah because we just don't really have much like stuff like that around here so we have had a busy couple of weeks haven't we yeah summer school started i'm still not in the summer mode or whatever you want to call it because i am not feeling any so the first week of that so the first week after school That was the hard bit.

That was like, oh, where are we? Because there was no real thing. There was no summer school for that week. Exactly. So there was for my mom. I just didn't put them in. So then I started mine to have like a month of July kind of thing. Yeah.

And so that started first week. It was fine. I was fine. It was more routine and da-da-da-da. And then I realized, no, no, I'm not any more energetic than I was at the beginning. The kids are fine. How they go out and do all that in the heat and not the heat. And they do, you know, swimming to tennis, to football, to dancing, to whatever they do.

So then come home. learn how what we're doing now? Huh? Nothing. It's 40 degree. I was like, I'm not moving. That's how I feel. Like, I just don't want to do anything.

And then I still feel lazy with myself. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. But now I'm talking about it more. More people are like, everyone feels the same. Everyone feels the same. It does make me feel a little bit better and not as lazy.

I think it's, I think it's our generation thing because I saw something the other day and it said that it's a, It's a response to trauma that you're, and I think it's just the work ethic and the way that we've been brought up, it's we see rest as a reward. Not actually something that you need to continue. Yeah, exactly. Like you don't have to operate and do all of this before you're allowed to treat yourself to rest. It should be something that you do regularly to recover.

Like you need to drink of water kind of thing. And it is, like, if you're sat there and you genuinely have no energy to do anything and you're looking around and I'm like, so bad I should do this. Or like the worst thing is with the baby naps, because he's quite full on and he's quite hard to do things when he's awake, I feel like I should use all his naps to do all the things. Yeah. And then when he's awake, he's not hard work, but like he's physical. Like, you know, you're after him and you're keeping an eye and you're, you know. Giving the attention, mate.

Yeah, exactly. And then when he naps, it's like, God, I need to sit down. Yeah. But then it's like, no, you should clean the house and you should be bar for you should leave the dishwasher. Time, really? I know. But it's, I, that's how I. I used to, I used to make myself feel bad. But now I don't.

No. It's like, you know, even with, you know, doing the podcast is great and obviously starting the coaching things on the side. I haven't really put loads of time and effort into the coaching thing because it's literally been at the same time I've gone back to work. So it's like, look, let me just get my routine for work. Let me get my routine for. having a toddler ish one and it's summer like you just don't have that same of level of energy and motivation and right now you don't need that pressure you sometimes you do need that pressure yourself to get things done and do it and do it yeah i just feel that right now

everyone just giving myself grace yeah just just take in literally the spanish culture which is pull your shut us down so the sun and the heat don't come in have a siesta because you're still up in the morning and you're still up at night that's why they have a siesta yeah it makes sense now like when you're like oh what all this manana manna mann stuff is like yeah because have you tried to work in this bloody heat

and and the whole thing of oh god I don't think I could sit in the dark obviously you're not sitting in the dark but in my head I was like oh because we're used to as I don't know is it is our cool sun's out shutters up windows open

because you don't have some very often exactly so but no because it's 40 degree air as well like not just that it's not even does not I think that's what's been the trouble this year is that it's got hot quick June's never been that hot. It's the hottest June since records began.

So it is a bit out there and we've had like this class of heat wave. But the air is hot. Even England. England has been heat waved. Yeah, exactly. So if they're struggling and we're 10 degrees hotter than them, it feels like...

It's blimming, you know what I mean? It feels like a hair dryer heat. Like the air is hot. That is how it feels. So I've now... If there's air, because it doesn't feel like there is even air at the moment. So I now have...

completely take back everything I used to say when I slag them off about being in dark houses, boring, miserable and siesters and all that. No, no, no, you're right. Yeah. You're right. Okay. To the point that, yeah, like, I keep going, like, oh, should we do that? Oh, no. That's me. That is me and I've just needed, no. Just, just. Although yesterday I did, you know, the baby was winging. He's getting to the point where we're, you know, we're trying to drop that nap and keep him awake and that kind of between five and seven is that kind of, what they call it, the watching. Oh, I was going to say danger out. It's a danger nap.

It's danger nap, but also like just when he's just in a not a great mood. Yeah. So I was like, right, let's go. And Casey has been at summer school all day. So it didn't really have to make him get up and go up. But we did. We jumped in the car, picked up my niece on the way. And we just went down to cabroig for a walk, which was a little bit breezy, but it was hot.

Yeah. Went to the park. Parks in the sun is bloody odd, isn't it? So like a bit point. Because that's what I mean? The sun doesn't even go into, what, half nine? And it's, that's fine. The sun goes in.

But it's not any cooler. No. You know, that doesn't mean that it's cool. You can't even escape it. That's what I've said. Like, walking Kaysen to summer school, because it's like we can literally walk to it, which is nice. We walked and we were five minutes early, so we went the long way around to it. My back was dripping with sweat at half nine in the morning because it's nearly 30, over 30 degrees at that time of the morning.

So June at least, we would be able to do things early or things late. We don't have any of that in the minute. No. And, yeah, it is, sometimes if you're out in it and you're in it and you're kind of in it and you're already in it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, well, that's, we walked, we went and we grabbed a McDonald's for like, you know, late dinner. I feel like, where I'm going to work and being in the call and da-da-da, and then coming out and I'm like, oh, my God, it's so what, they're getting in the house. I'm not leaving this house now.

You know, it's a bit like that. I think if I got up in the morning, I don't say we're going the beach, let's just say. Yeah. And everything was Pat, we're going and you're in it and you're in it, aren't you? Yeah. You're in it for the day or every night or waterpark or wherever you go. Do you know what I mean? I think it's easier to...

But daily at the minute where we're doing work and obviously da-da-da-da-da, yeah, I'm not there yet. I'm getting there. I've even started watching tennis. Tennis. What Wimbledon. Yeah. I know. Lexi even call me pathetic.

She did. Thetis. It's actually quite a good thing you get into it. But that's me, that's making a point of me, because I don't sit down at home. If I just sit down, put that on and you watch that and then the matches are a lot. lost so long on tennis, you're there for ages. You know, because I want to know who wins. I'm there for ages.

Yeah, no, it's tough. Like, the heat does make you not want to do anything. So, yeah, you know, in my head I'm like, oh, I keep seeing everyone going everywhere, doing everything every day. Like, I should do more. And then I'm like, why force yourself to go out to not enjoy it? No, we do stuff. We're fine.

Everyone's happy. So, yeah. Don't put that pressure. We've been doing the same thing, like summer school, working. chilling in the air con because like I say with a baby as well it's like yeah I couldn't imagine because he's on you as well or he's not

he wants to sit down he wants to be doing stuff and he can't and it's well that's the age anyway because he's very heavy to hold but then he doesn't want to be held but then he's literally crawling everywhere because he can't walk yet so it's like it's like when he's holding him he's not just like there yeah because he's wriggling

climbing up you and he wants to get here and he wants to get there and so yeah even like yeah going for a proud of walk and stuff in the evenings is fine but yeah not really wanting to go anywhere else yeah i'll get i'll get that i'm out of them ages aren't i but yeah um but yeah mine kind of know now that then hours in between we just when they come back from summer school if if we're doing something like we could be going the fair or it could be just to walk along the canal or we'll go to walk to the beach you know it won't be because it's a lot you know energy and financially

to try and keep them. Yeah. Yeah, I'd like I say, I'm just not pushing myself to do much. Yeah, and there's a lot of traffic around at the minute. I'm not usually wanted to go around. I've barely, I've barely been out. Well, I think me and you have actually taken, go about today. We didn't go together, but we had to drive out. We did.

And we've just realised that all these things that are getting built. Yeah, before recorded, didn't we? So obviously, generally working from home, but I've been in New York, and I've actually been out, like, locally with three different people. last week. I went out every day. Ooh, well done, Bill. I know. I was like, but yeah, I went to Torayaka to

I had to go sort of some paperwork out on our Fridays, like I say, never end up having an idea to ourselves, always fill it with stuff. Always. But yeah, I sat in traffic. It took me like nearly an hour to get somewhere that's 20 minutes down the road. I couldn't believe the traffic. It's long.

And then luckily I was in and I was out, but then there was traffic coming back and then, yeah, what's that huge building? I didn't know there was a new Chinese out and another Chinese restaurant. restaurant. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, I found a plate place. Great. Oh, you're one row. Because I normally have to drive half an hour at the road to go to the reformer Pilate. I've found one and it's half the price. Yeah, we'll have to give that a little go.

I'm definitely going to give that a go. Well, I've never done it. We're not doing dance anymore. I, um, I would like to try it. Yeah, I'm definitely going to do it, especially with those prices. It's so reasonable. I'm not good with stuff like that though, am I. Just the thought of it for me is a bit like, it's a bit Jimmy. Yeah, but that's because you're not an exercise person. But then, I think I don't enjoy, well, you enjoy it more than that you wouldn't go fishing. I don't mind going to a gym randomly. Like every now and then, pre-kids, I would do stuff with Liam. Okay.

But I didn't enjoy it enough to do it regularly, whereas. It didn't give you that, oh, to get up in the morning. No, whereas this, these classes is the only thing that I found that I actually genuinely enjoy and I miss. And you stuck with. I did. And that was a long way to go to. Yeah. and I'll drive there, half an hour back, our class. It'd take me two hours to go and do it.

So, yeah, pre-Haden and then after Hayden, I did go through stints where I was going for like, you know, maybe eight months or something quite consistently every week. So, yeah, I'm definitely going to get back into it now. It's 10 minutes down the road if the class is good. The place looks nice. They've got quite a lot of beds. But is it all the game?

It's just, well, I actually found that these people, I only opened in April, according to their Instagram, but they've had a place for two years in Guatemala. Oh, there you go, then. So they must know what they're doing. I did think a patient mentioned it to me, and I did take all the details to tell you, but I probably forgot.

You know what I'm like, yeah, sorry, I'm sorry. So we will try it. Yeah, we'll give it a go. Yeah, definitely. I'll definitely go, so you'll tag along on. Yeah, I'll try. I'll try, I'll always try and support, okay? Yeah, so that was a busy week, so we have been away.

We have been away, but we're back. We're back. We're back into it. And then I've, well, I'll let you know next week because my boy's 18. And I've got my nephew over at the minute. So he's flew for the first time on his own. Yeah, he's turned 16. So he flew on his own.

Harrison. So yeah, he's over, which is lovely. But at the same time, it's that he's 16. Mason's obviously nearly 18. well he is 18 if you want to put it that way it's only two years I know that age is a big gap and I don't mean how they behave anything like that's nothing I just mean how I parent them

if that makes sense I don't mean I'm going to treat them any different but obviously I still feel that they should have a time to come home because he is at an age and I'm responsible for him he's not my child even if he's my nephew is not my child you know what I mean so you're at a point with Mason where you don't really tell him what time he has to be in I don't because I don't really need to he doesn't really go out it does go out obviously but at the minute he goes to work

he's actually took a week off so he took a week off work yeah to have that time with his cousin and at the same time there's a boy Irish boy Kahal who comes over every year and he's over as well so they've all made plans together to do stuff

which is lovely do you know what I mean but yeah so they went they went the go-karts and then they went like you know the KM place or whatever it's quiz I don't know they went out somewhere and so it was yeah it was more like okay, we'll just be careful and da-da-da-da-da and what time you're going to be home and don't be late

and Mason's like, what's late? And I'm like, I don't know what to reply, you know what I mean? Because really, you do what you want in a way, but to be fair, Mason does everything with respect anyway. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? It'd be a bit different if, you know, he really tested. He doesn't go out and drink, drink or anything like that. So he's not become around five, six in the morning, smash out of his head, 18-year-old, if you know what I mean? He's not like that, you know?

We've been there, don't know that. No, but yeah, so it was just that of, I don't want to feel that to my nephew that I'm like parenting him, if you know what I mean, because he's a young man. But then he's still 16 in your care, so there has to be something. Yeah, I'm just like, yeah, just don't be too late, okay? I didn't even answer, I just don't be too late, okay? When Spain's late, you know, they didn't even go out until court past 10, you know what I mean? So, like, it is a hard one, but no, that's just me overthinking it. They have no idea of that.

So what do you do with Mason now? Like, because he's still your child. He's still living in your house. You've still got siblings. Like, do you feel like you're still parenting him? Yeah, I would, like... I think that would come as an instinct as forever in a way of that feeling of even just advice. Because, you know what I mean?

But I think, yeah, advice has always be there. But how much now are you actually like, no, this is, you have to do what I say? I think, I've always. he's done it for a couple years anyway and kind of hope that he would make his the right decisions for himself if that makes sense but then when he was a bit younger when he'd maybe done it made a decision that wasn't very good I'd be like ah no you ain't doing that kind of thing you know what I mean to not you can make your mistakes but I know this is going to be a complete failure so we're going to stop it

before it was even started kind of thing um but obviously I I I want him he's he's a he's a man he's a young man now you know so you want him to you don't want to be a drip because mammy said this and mammy said that kind of thing physically can't ever make any decisions without you exactly and uh and i don't want that but i also want to keep the side of that i'm his mom and you don't want him to be so independent that he's almost like a lodger i don't think they would because i think we are as close unit family anyway and the way he is and no matter like wherever he's when he comes into summer he gives me a hug and a kiss and when he goes somewhere you know that kind of a thing

that's how he is and always says love you at the end of a call like just that's just how we are and he tells me a lot I mean like I said to you earlier Mason's the kind of kid who've asked to get in the shower like he's his shower you know like to your home get in the shower kind of thing yeah but he's just that's how he is with himself so it's easier I guess when you have a kid who is just naturally got good head on his shoulders is doing the right things is respectful there's something probably easier some things that I've had to say you know whether it's even if it's the way, I could be making, exaggerating again, you know, when I say I over-explain stuff,

that sometimes I feel that he was just a bit more ruder to maybe me or Lexi, and then I'm turning it into, you're rude to women, you know, like that kind of a thing. You know, I'm going into this whole thing as well, and he's got a girlfriend. I'm like, she's lovely, you know, hope you're not talking to her like this. And, you know, like, he's like, what kind of thing? But it's that, it's that he's a young man now, you know, and it's a hope I've done enough to, you know well in a way you probably think like right well I've done my parenting so like I'm here

to support and to still guide but like the parenting bits done but then at the same time they get into a new state yeah they're entering new experiences as like I would always navigating a lot of new stuff yeah I'd say probably the right way to say I'd always parent him if that makes sense as long as he needs me for certain things some things you're a man you're you know you need to sort of you know decide for yourself and whatever that is, you know. But generally, yeah. I think the other two are going to be different.

So come back to me in another 10 years and I'll let you know. Do you know what I mean? I don't think it's going to be the same with my other two. No. Mason, like... Mason's still in that generation slightly as well. I know it's not stupid. He's not, but he's closer to how we was brought up. And I know I've bought the other two up differently.

It's my own fault, really. And kids, like we said, are just naturally different. anyway, even if they have the same parents, you know, things are, you just, they're just different. So you are going to have to do. Well, actually, someone asked me about, what was the question? About boys and girls, basically. What do you think was easier to parent? I think that was the question. And initially, I think I said boys, right? But I said, well, actually, it depends on the child because, you know, Lexi, Lexi's got the sass and she's got this and she's got that. But she's not a winger. She's not, you know, she's quite down-chilled and

all these things, you know, she's, she didn't need nappies, she didn't, you know, like, oh, so actually she was probably the, the easiest in a way. Yeah. But that was because of her personality. Yeah. I don't think that's because she was a girl. Yeah. Does that make sense?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get you. Yeah. So, you know, when people say about how girls and boys are and girls are, boys are more affectionate or, in my case, I think they're all three different in that respect. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, whereas my mum would have said probably, girls are easier. There you go.

As kids, because they're just a bit more independent. There you go. Don't whinge as much. Yeah. But then, like I say, I think it's down to it. And my brother had major tantrums as a kid. Like major tantrums. He would throw himself on the floor screaming in the shop and stuff.

I don't know which mine, what, it could have been Morgan, to be fair. The, that whole, remember the advert when the mom, when the kid goes off in the supermarket and then the mom does the same thing, that has like a tantrum in the supermarket. I've done that. Literally. It works. It actually works. Well, it did on mine. I mean, if it doesn't, you're just going to look very stupid. But it works. I don't know if I can do that.

No, you've got a full on go for it because... I don't know if I can do that. Yeah, I've got a drink before. Just knit the bottle of wine or whatever before and then throw it. I can imagine it would probably stop them in their track. Yeah, years ago. So I don't know if it worked. It could have been amazing to me. But yeah, no, going on that question. Yeah, it's

Mason's, I suppose, made it easy. I don't want to give him a big head and whatever. It's true, though. Like, if he was a lad that was, you know, experimenting a lot with drinking and coming in late or not messaging you or, you know, just not keeping you involved in feeding like, you know what's going on in life.

And a lot of teenagers do completely go, like, mysterious, don't they? And they don't talk as much. But, so, yeah, I'm sure he just tell you everything, but I feel like he is quite open, whereas I can imagine a lot of other teenagers aren't, and then it's a lot harder to have trust and know what's going, or they're pushing their boundaries. They're, you know, doing things.

And then I can't, it'd be struggled to, yeah, how do you parent a 17, 18 year old who's not on the right path, not making the good decision? Yeah, that would be a very different problem. Who's really against me, I suppose. Yeah, who thinks you're ruining my life. Yeah, yeah. That's probably how I was. Sorry, mum, actually. Young, though, a lot younger than that. But yeah, yeah. No, he does. He makes, yeah, after me, he does, not all the time. Sometimes he does my head in and some things.

Yeah, kids aren't perfect. But, no, I even think the same with Kaysen, like, he's getting to an age now where I find he's, he's a bit more difficult. And, like, obviously, because I feel like, now's the parenting lesson. Whereas before it was, like, discipline. Now here comes the lessons and the conversation. Yeah. But he was so easy. whereas I feel like Hayden's going to tantrum and I'm going to have to... Proper pull your... Have to discipline and do things in a different way

whereas Kaysen I didn't really have to. It's strange, isn't it? It's hard, yeah. And I used to laugh when people are like, oh, second child syndrome. I'm like, that won't be me. That won't be me because I'm going to do things exactly the same. Or I know, you know, I'm going to do things

the way I did it before or whatever. I think even if you're doing, you don't... Obviously, I actually thought I had parented mine the same, which I suppose, based, yeah, I have, but we've spoke about this before with how the world is and you do parent differently. Yeah. So I have probably parent differently to each three of mine, you know what I mean, in a way of the way things have gone in life, whether that's me at home or the world outside or whatever, whatever, do you know what I mean? I don't think anyone can parent the same because

you're a different person, your kids are different people, like some are sensitive, some are not, like there's no way you can parent two kids exactly the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's impossible. Even if you have twins at the same age, you don't treat them. That's where I see my nephew and Mason is the same, but they're not. And it's only a small thing, but it's just making me think. You know, like, actually, I don't want to just go and do what you want, boys, you're on holiday. Yeah. I still want that.

Right. Check me. Exactly that. Check it. Have fun but be safe. That's probably all I ever saved the most. Have fun but be safe. Have fun but be safe.

I did see a parent's thing actually because Lynn does like, be careful, be careful. Like, obviously with them being small and stuff. And I'm like, I read or heard that telling kids to be careful is pointless because they don't know what you're telling them to be careful about. Say, mind the corner of that table. Don't stand on the sofa. Like, tell them what it is because be careful is useless. Be careful.

I told you that was going to happen. You did. You said be careful. So, yeah, exactly. So you might want to say a bit more than be safe. Be safe for what, ma. No, because the way I over it, go around. He's probably over-explained everything by now.

You don't... That's enough. That's almost a more... He doesn't need more. Yeah, exactly that. That's it. Right. Well, I think we'll stop there.

Yeah. We probably could keep going, but I think that's a lot to catch up on for two weeks. Yeah. Yeah, no, we've got loads more, but like you say, we'll come back. We'll...

And we're getting together at the weekend. Both weekends. I know. We actually have plans. We have. We have. And I've got an 18 and 16-year-old to do it with a home. Yeah.

So everyone's at mine tomorrow. We're a friend of ours next Saturday. You've got a 18. in the middle yes i have okay yeah i have right we'll let you know how it goes guys yeah have a nice weekend next week happy summer