The Rising’s Growing Together Podcast - Exhausted Mums, Wellness Trends & Real Talk on Parenting in Chaos Ep.19

Episode Date: June 7, 2025

Parenting during seasonal changes, sleep deprivation, and finding wellness that actually works we’re unpacking it all.In this episode of Growing Together, Billie and Charlotte celebrate a major milestone over 100 downloads! They dive into raw and relatable stories about parenting through the chaos of sick kids and seasonal shifts. From sleep struggles and low energy to testing wellness products and building healthy micro habits, this one’s all about real life, resilience, and routine. Stick around for laughs, lessons, and a few sound bites you won’t forget. Let us know in the comments: Which wellness trend have you tried that actually worked?

Welcome back, guys. Hey. Welcome back to another week with us. We're back. We're here. And I just want to say a thank you to everyone. We have hit earlier this week over 100 downloads. Yes, we have.

On Spotify and Apple Podcast. So for you, because you probably don't know even what that is. I didn't. No, I didn't. I did it. I really didn't at first. That means that people that download the podcast just for audio. Yeah.

More than 100 people have thought that. You'd like a voice there. You'd like that. I mean, YouTube's great. And obviously we're on YouTube as well so you can watch us. But then there's a lot of people that are listening to us. It's funny because I saw another podcast say the same thing.

That, like, YouTube, like a lot of people watch a lot of crap on YouTube. They'll start it. They'll watch it in the backgrounds or whatever. But to actually download and, like, listen to someone like by audio, that's quite intentional. Like anyone that I listen to on Apple Podcasts are like the things I'm interested in, like the things actually want to... Well, yeah, to have it there.

So it's easy access to then your content. Otherwise you're on YouTube and it's like I'll suggest it or they'll just whack it on and I'll put around the house or whatever. But no, more than 100 people. We don't have more than 100 people that are our friends and family that are doing that for us. So it's nice to know that we're growing and we get out there. Yeah. Thank you everyone.

So big thank you guys for the. support. And I think I'm up to 199 followers now on my little Insta page. So yeah, if anyone's watching, if you haven't followed our Instagram page for The Rising, please do. And you might hit me over 200 followers. Yay. And Bill will keep me up dead because I have no idea what it means. I just know it's good. So thank you.

I like it. I like that you like hearing us. Yeah. Yeah, it's nice. Like I say, it shows the support. and people, yeah, are enjoying it because, like I say, people keep mentioning it so we'll keep bringing it to everyone. Yes, we are. We're here. So how's your week been?

Oh, God. Did you want a positive one? Keep it real, Charlotte. Oh, God. I've had a sick child, bless him, my little morgue boy. Yeah, he's had an ear infection. Oh, no. Oh, yeah, I think ears and teeth.

Some is not even tight. I know. I know. I know. Yeah. Well, this is it. Well,

I suppose your kids have been in the pool. Yes, mine don't. Maybe it has a... Yeah, we did, we went to a public one. So I think, I think it was from that.

Right. But yeah, it's just been a... It's, I feel like, I know it's something, I know you've got a baby, but I feel like I've gone back in having,

you know, like a back, you know, that feeling of where you get broke and night's sleep and that kind of thing of, yeah, blessing. And you know, obviously you just want to take it often,

but... Like you say, teeth and ears, Like when you get that kind of pain, it's really hard to even like, you know, just watch your favourite TV show and like take your mind. Exactly. When you've got the flu or a cold, you can snuggle up and, you know, you can take your mind a little bit. Yeah, it's literally that.

And it was, initially it was just constant. It was just constant in pain, you know, constant, you know, kind of a scream because it was hurting so much sort of thing. Oh, dear. He's getting better. But that's been my week. It's been quite draining. Lexi made me laugh one time.

She said, well, I don't, I don't want to sleep with him or be me him because. I might catch it. I was like, Lexi, you can't catch it in friction. You can't. So we've literally been like sleeping different beds, swapping around everywhere. You know, it's just one of them weeks, really. So we do feel a bit drained. But he's getting better, which is the main thing.

I'm just glad it didn't happen. Because obviously everything's winding down now with school. Obviously, he's finishing. He's graduating of that time, you know, and I'm just glad it didn't hit that week. And his birthdays and his birthday is exactly the same time. So, yeah, obviously, I'm not glad he's got it. but I'm kind of glad to hopefully he'll be going out the way, yeah.

Yeah, definitely. Before anything kind of starts and summer hits because it's coming. Yes. It's coming close. And that's a hard one. No, it's not hard because obviously it's exciting. It's summer and da-da-da-da-da. But let's be realistic too.

Yeah. I think just the heat as well. Like you forget it's already like got hot quite quickly. Yeah. And doing anything in the heat. heat is just so much more effort. But I feel drained anywhere. I was just saying I go to work.

I work in the aircon and I come home and we've got aircon or the houses are cool. Do you know what I mean? And I'm still like, oh my God, it's so hot. I feel so drained from the heat. I haven't been in it or done anything, but just generally, you know. Like even the ideas to do things like, oh, let's go here. Let's go there. Let's go for a walk.

Let's go to the park. Like even last weekend, I think it was. I was like, right, let's go out the house just for an hour. So we've got the boys in the car. We went out. We went for a drive. Hayden fell asleep in the car to be first. We're like, oh, we'll just drive around looking at houses, you know.

As I'm a quiet, we'll just drive. Hazen, you can have the phone and he was like, you're bored, I'm not right. You can have the phone and where you can drive around while Hayden's asleep. Then we got them out when we got to a park and stuff. And it's like, there was no shade in this park. It was enjoyable. The place was boiling.

Even on the swing, I sat on a swing and put Hayden on my lap. I burnt my button, but like not just, you know, when it's like you sit down, it's like instant pain, but then it's like, sorry, if you stay for a little bit and it goes. So I did that, but then it was like, no, no, this is getting hot. It's getting hot, huh? It didn't cool down. Like, I stayed on it for like five minutes now.

I was like, actually, I need to get off. Like, it's not actually getting any better. And then. Oh, your skin? Yeah. But my arche cheeks, they're bright red for like hours. Bloody hell. But, yeah, like I say, just, yeah, I want it to be nice and sunny.

And like, obviously it's great to, you know, get up in the morning, sun's shining, and I specifically wanted kids with summer birthdays and just the reality of it, it's like, it's just so bloody hot. It is. It is hot. I think as well, even now, it's, it could be hiding from it. It's like five, five, six o'clock at night and it's 32 degrees. Yeah. That's what's the, there's no, okay, so fine, well, let's miss out at the midday. We'll do it later. It's not even that, you know, you literally wait until it's darked. You'll be able to go and enjoy anything. Absolutely. And it's not even actual summer yet. But without being negative, obviously,

we're sad and really miserable. I don't know. Because it is, it is fun. But it's just getting, it's just that, I think it's for me, it's that switch. It's that switch. If I always moan when it's really, goes really cold and I always moan when it just starts getting really hot.

And it's just getting back into, yes, we really are. I definitely am. But it is, it's just getting back into it because, because, yeah, it's. No, I think, like you say, I don't know if it is, the heat going up but I feel the same I feel absolutely wiped out and I thought it was you know having an intense um week at work when I was away and I was like Barcelona and Portugal like all the team here and then I thought it was just catch up from that yeah but that

was two weeks ago yeah and then I was like blaming in my period but that was a week ago yeah so it's like um what's wrong with me now is there actually something more seriously wrong with me because I don't just feel tired and yet even last night we had both boys in the bed. Hayden woke up from four till probably five o'clock kind of getting back to sleep which isn't typical but and then he's getting up at six so it's like by the time I'm getting the boys to bed which is somehow getting a little bit later and later at the moment oh that's the thing as well because the sun doesn't the sun hasn't gone down by the time you've finished school finished work wind down by the time you even fancy having dinner

because it's hot. Yeah. Like, everything's later. And that's like, by the time I've got both boys to bed now, and especially Hayden, still can't function without a third nap. I don't know. He's one next week and he's literally cannot stay awake for more than two hours at time. So I'm trying to drop this like third nap to try and get into sleep in even later in the mornings

because he's like six o'clock and he's awake. And I'm like trying to like figure out how to fix it. But so you've tried, you've tried cutting out of sleep or you've got to try. We've tried once or twice. which didn't really seem to change. So he still got up at six? Yeah. I literally can't...

He was doing seven half seven until the clocks were back which was a couple of months ago now. So I'm trying to like do things to change and bring in that extra out. I've hated that when you get into a routine and then the clocks change or sterile and then that sets you back.

Exactly. And then like he was sometimes waking about five years which was fine because he was still quite tired so then I could get him back to sleep. You get that little bit, only a bit. And then he gets back. then he's not waking up till like seven-ish. But no, now it's like six and awake.

And I'm like, six-half-six is a bit too late to try and get him back to sleep. By the time I've got him back to sleep, if he does go back to sleep. You got to get up and move. Cason's awake. So it's like, six-half-six, we're just getting up now. So I'm like, yeah, I've tried a few things. Tried to drop a nap. But he just, he can't stay awake.

Which is all right for you six, say, you say, when you're, okay, six o'clock. It's not, you know, you can live with getting up at six. Yeah. But obviously, with our change of the social. where everything gets so later on on on the evening. It's literally, you don't have siesters. By the time I got them both to sleep. Either I've been loading that.

I need to nap within. But by the time I got them both to sleep last night, I think it was like nine, half nine. So it's like then by the time I'm doom scrolling or just trying to switch off and trying to relax or feel like I have a bit of time to myself, I'm going to bed at like 11, half 11. And then I'm up at 6.

So yeah, I'm definitely not getting as much hours sleep, which probably contributes to why I feel so tired but no I feel like exhausted tired like that first trimester of pregnancy tired like wiped out a bit delirious I've generally probably just tired well at least it she was going to say I thought literally I was actually thinking

I might need a blood test but I actually feel like there's something internally like well I know I've obviously we've had the kids or obviously broken night's sleeps but like you say I think I can get through that you know what I'm like it's like you feel a bit tired yeah like have a cup of coffee yeah by the time you're up and you're moving and you feel normal again but being home from not a hard day's work you know what I mean

it's just a day's work and I could genuinely like lie on the sofa and probably fall asleep a bit which I could never fall asleep on the sofa do you know what I mean or anything like that but that and it is it's that when you're explaining about the first trimester of pregnancy it is it when you said it's not a level of time isn't it is that it's not it's not not just I feel tired. It's not just my sleep. It's another level. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's not just, oh, I'll go to bed early

tonight and I'll be alright tomorrow. No, like, I feel white. Yes. Yeah, I am the same. I do reckon it's the change of the I'm not going to say it's our age. We're well young. We're fine. It's nothing to do that. You say that, but then I see all these things about oh, is

your hormones imbalance, which for me could be, because I did read that it takes two years for your hormones to go back to normal after my baby. Yeah. And then also, I was low iron when I was pregnant with pain and even afterwards. Iron's a big thing, which is a big thing, especially for energy. I think it's quite linked to energy. So, but no... Fine a Guinness. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's it. I keep thinking. Like, how do I fix myself? Like, what, you know,

what can I do to kind of give me them little, like, pick me up? Yeah. So I've been, I've been a bit of a sucker on Instagram, I must admit. I've, I've, advert to getting me and I'm like buying things on Instagram. No, you haven't. Yes. Yes. Shop now. Buy me now. Yeah. Okay. And obviously Instagram knows what you search

for, what you're interested in and, you know, at the moment it's all health stuff. So it's like, oh, is that going to fix me? Yes. Take my money. Fix me. It's going to give me all energy, please. Yeah, so yeah, I think three or four things I've thought. What are you go?

What are we go? One's here. I'll show you. one is my new little face roller You're going to whack out of there then I know it looks a bit strange Must admit but no It's a face roller That is so Instagram Pop it Instagram isn't it

It is so Instagram I've looked at like facial things It's like a steel Oh it's heavy It's heavy, it's steel And then it's got little like beads on it So you basically like Rub it against your face

And it like plumps things up And it like Do you feel it as you do it though Well the first day I did it It's really everything It is nice and cool It is nice. Just for your face.

I don't want to do. You can do your whole body. You can get bigger ones as well to do your body. So you don't like your double chin. You do your cheeks. You can get a jawline. You can get rid of your wrinkles. Deep puff your eyes.

So yeah, that was, I was like, tick. I love that, please. It's endorsed by Jessica Alba. So, you know, a bit of honey. If honey says it's good, I'll give it a go. So, yeah, I did that. And then what else have I bought? No, that's a.

funny old thing in it yeah sorry because my phone's going to hear it and I'm going to start you're going to start seeing these on your

Instagram now yeah so I bought that and then I bought some vitamins what kind of vitamins you just said vitamins

I went for the Kardashian Bitterins so the last bit of it just sounds so it's pure Instagram really pick me up

pick me on Instagram just pop me back I'd say, just fix me, isn't it? Fix me. And obviously, Courtney Kardashians pop it into her natural era of life. And the last vitamins I bought were also off Instagram, which was that JS Health, which is de-bloat and detox, which you take, I think, just before you have a meal or after a meal, and it helps with, like, bloating and digestion and stuff, which I bought, I used a little bit. But the tablets are fucking enormous. It's like, if it's a tablet, just make it easy. Yeah, like a small plastic capsule, boom, whatever it is, not a massive powder one that gets stuck in your throat or then you have to snap it in half

and then it's like, now I've got to take two tablets. Yeah, and then you, oh God, no, I don't know. Yeah, so I wasn't that keen on that one, even though that's like massive everyone endorses that. So I might come back to it if they've not gone out of day. Yeah, but you haven't actually fully tried it like you say, because that puts you off. I haven't tried it consistently, but yeah, it wasn't easy to, you know,

make that a habit. Yeah. So I've gone for lemmy, which is the brand of the Kardashian Bitlip. Oh, oh, right. It's called Lemmy. I thought it was like the flavour. I was like that like lemon. No, it's called Lemmy.

And then what did I go for? I went for a digestion, like detox one, which is like, I think good for like gut health and stuff like that. So they're actual just, they're not little gummies. I'm obviously thinking of like kids. I bought two. No, I bought two. So one is a tablet. So like a supplement, a vitamin that you just swallow.

And the other one might be a gummy. So one is digestion, which obviously we've already spoke about, is I'm massively blow and get uncomfortable when I eat. So I want to do more digestion and gut health stuff. So I bought that for that. And then the other one was, it's called Let Me Focus. So it's got Ash, what you mean? What you shouldn't say now? Lines, Maine and a couple of other ingredients that I've seen.

Yeah, all this when you say lines main. And then it's like a moss and people it has. That's it. It's really meant to be a really good for you. So, yeah, I've got that. So hopefully that fixes my brain, gives me some energy because I'm needing it at the moment. And what else did I buy?

Because I bought something else. Was it all to do with, like, wellness, obviously. Like I feel like there's a kind of part. Oh, yes, yes. Natural deodorant. Natural deodorant I bought. So obviously, I think we spoke about it on another podcast. There was a woman that was saying how, bad aerosol sprays are

and I've tried roll-ons I don't like roll-ons I know you have roll-ons but it's hard I've got to go because I'm not a fan it is it's a year they are different I have to say it is so I tried and then I went back to my aerosol spray and then I've seen loads of celebrities endorse this fussy brand and actually

it was a company that was on Dragon's Den right I have I think I've seen so it's natural ingredients but like little rectangular things like that yes you get you get a case and then you buy the refillable so again it's sustainable you're not wasting loads of things it's not loads of plastic so it's more of a sustainable product but then it's also natural ingredients and really good for you because um yeah there's a lot that's in deodorant

that doesn't need to be in geodont um and actually worked with a woman who said that she went through going uh from like tradition not traditional but like store bought style and then she went into deodorant and she said it took sometimes i think a couple of weeks for your body to get used to it but then she was like I just don't need it yeah um so anyway yeah I bought that using to not using georgia to talk uh no to use like a natural one sorry I was yeah to use more of a natural one um it didn't take long for her body to to adapt to it and get used to it um but yeah I've gone for that because that is something that I did see and I wanted to give it a go um it's quite hard because you buy the you click the case that you want so

gone for a nice green um and then you pick uh i think the package that i went for you get to pick three ingredients not three ingredients three flavors yeah scents whatever it is yeah um it was really hard because it's like i don't have a clue what these are going to smell like because it i bought one that was like tropical sunset we're like yeah so it literally can be yang and loads of different ingredients i have no idea what yeah some of these even ingredients smell like let alone when three or four ingredients are throwing together what it's going to smell like so i've gone for I think like a fruityish one. I've gone for like a potteny one

and I've gone for like a citrusy one. Yeah. I think I've got it. I'll report back. Yeah. It's on its way. I've got a message today. It's been shipped.

It's on its way to me. So once I get it, I might even bring it on next week if I get it back then and I'll show people what it looks like. I'd be interested in that because I, well I said before, didn't I with the UK app that I have that helps me.

Because it is. You think you realise it's in everything. like go from your shampoos, which is direct, do you know what I mean? Yeah. All the way tea sprays, perfins, creams, all that kind of sun creams, especially here. Yeah. You know what I mean? I saw something just before starting recording actually on Instagram that was like,

like, what makes you feel so good at it. I can't remember what it was. It was a woman or something like get rid of everything toxic in my life. People, products and food or whatever it was. So it was like, yeah, no, it's good. Get rid of the products. bit by bit I threw out a plastic chopping board this morning because it was disgusting and yeah getting them as natural deodorant getting some supplements because I don't feel

like I get enough in me. Yeah I am I don't hate supplements I remember as a kids see my mum always take so you know like a cod liver oil and stuff like that and I don't know if I am I getting started I should really think about stuff like that I think it depends on your diet I think if you're good enough to get those things in naturally yeah which I'm not always always. better to take it through your food. Yeah. That's what I need a little bit of kick up the bum actually.

I'm very, very good at telling everybody else what to do and how they should do this and how they should do that and kind of, you know, that sort of thing. And not taking your own advice. No, I'm terrible. I think that's probably 99% of women watch it. Oh, God, it's so annoying. Like, I know, like, you know, like, with even with the, well, the older ones out in the house, with the gym, you know, making, you know, well, they go.

But obviously, you know, making sure that that, that, that, time for them and da-da-da whatever and I know and they it's not like they wouldn't if I needed that time to go and do my thing you know it's not like I couldn't get it but I just do it I think the most I do is walk my dog and that's I think it's like good thing but it's not like there's a massive shift you have to do and then it's like oh I haven't got the energy to make that so no I'm going to try and do little things and then see how I go and then once that's a habit then maybe add one more thing in and then once that's a habit then maybe add one more thing in because yeah I just can't do a drastic life change at the moment

I've barely got enough energy to survive and I feel a bit like that I feel like it's all right to say no I'm not I can't bob to do that today kind of thing but I feel like recently I've done it a lot yeah you know what I mean like and I'm like oh yeah lazy actually you know what I mean and it's I'm not I'm not a lazy person but it's just that yeah umf to just like I ran and um I was watching a like health wellness expert on a podcast the other day

And she said that a huge thing, which is so simple, is dehydration is an epidemic at the moment. We're not drinking enough. We're not getting enough water. And dehydration fucks everything up. Your body doesn't, you know, process food properly. Your skin, you know, brain-like function. Everything is messed up when your body's dehydrated. So she was like, my first hack for people is just to drink more.

And I think she said something like, drink too. cups of water in the morning before you do anything. Yeah. Did you, are you still doing your water? I've not been very good at it, but, you know, some day. That's it. I'm, this consistency, that's what I need to get better at, with myself. Yeah.

I'm literally so good at making sure everyone in the family is, you know, do, do, do, do. And that, and the same, they're on at me. It's not like they're not to, you know, support each other to go, go, you've got, make sure you've done this, do, da, da, da, kind of thing. But I am just really not good at doing it for myself. I think just the mental load at the moment of, you know, work. making sure the kids are all right doing all these extra things

summer, Burma's days you know like even just so many evenings has been like right sort of Hayden's birthday and presents and you know make sure that's ordered and send out invitations

and like it's just loads of extra things that by the time oh have you drank anything today yeah exactly it's like I haven't got the energy or you know even just wash my face and brush my teeth before going to bed

I'm getting to the point of like I just have to fall into bed Yeah. So it's like, no. Now what I'm going to try and do is when I get the boys bathed and ready for bed, I get myself washed and ready for bed. Yeah. I don't go to bed then,

but at least if I take the time to five minutes to do that. But we give them bad thing to time to routine to wind down and dead and we literally don't do it for ourselves. So I definitely need to kick myself up your body. But I just don't have any energy at the moment. I feel like even just talking about these things is making tired. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, we'll see.

Like, maybe do one or two little things, get a bit more energy. And like I say, just be kind to yourself. I cleaned the whole house this morning while the Hayden was sleeping. And then I was like, I'm done. You know, well, this is it. I'm kind of being myself a little bit here. I did the same. I've actually scrubbed my house today, which was quite a good thing for.

Sometimes we shouldn't, we should just. Yeah, not do anything. Sleep. I think last Friday, actually, I slept while the baby slept. His first, good. His first nap in the morning, normally is about nine-ish, when Liam takes case into school. So Liam took case into school, went to work.

So I was like, right, nobody's in the house. Yeah. Do it. I'm going to nap. Do it. Yeah. That's a good. That's the first tip.

Well done. It was hard. And when you get, all the vitamins arrive and get everything else in there. So I'm going to start a drink. I'm going to get some electrolytes because apparently electrolytes, it's like. I think you think of a song. Is that not a song, is it? No.

It's in a song. I don't know. So. Not sure like that one. But no, electrolytes are like the equivalent of drinking like 40 cups of water and one. If you have electrolytes in it, it's like extra. I've seen electrolytes and I've seen hydrogen water. You can get a hydrogen bottle that...

Yeah, I've seen something like that. I'm not very good at looking at this. It does things to the water. It's Instagram, see? Yeah. All these things are like throwing adverts at me that I'm having to bat away and not buy everything. Yeah. But I'm educating myself at the same time.

So, yeah, I might get some electrolytes. I'd go the other way. I think if you put, like, natural salt on your tongue and drink more, I think that makes more. Well, actually, I was looking at buying electrolytes to put in my drink. And then I was on Pinterest and it came up with natural electrolytes. It's leather water with Himalayan salt. Exactly. So maybe I just buy a jar of Himalayan salt.

Either way, however you do it, do you know what I mean? It is. It's about. Yeah, I was literally looking at drinking more water, maybe some sort of electrolytes. having some supplements trying to go to bed a bit earlier, that especially if the baby's... Hayden's clearly not changing his time table. I think it's summer and where we live as well.

It's not an early place. Especially now. Although having said that, one thing that me and Liam do, which I think most of our friends don't, is we don't really change our, like, bedtime routine and the time that Kaysen goes to bed much in the summer. Because you know, it's like, try and get the kids back, like, ready for school, like, yeah.

Kaysen normally goes to a bit about half-eight. In the summer, he'll go to bed nine, half-nine. He goes a tiny bit later. I try to. I know most people throw it completely out and the kids go to bed whenever. No, yeah. Or they go to bed super, super late. But we don't tend to do that.

We do kind of stick to similar. We try. We definitely try. But odd days when it's like, oh, you'll go to a lot of walk down the beach or, you know, for a late dinner. But we don't tend to do try. But we don't have to change the work. That's what I mean. So we're still, you know.

We still have a routine. Yeah. We do try. We definitely try to keep that routine because we, it is hard otherwise. Everyone just, I think my house just functions better with. I think kids function better with routine. Yeah. I feel like I have functioned better with a routine, to be fair.

Definitely. But yeah, we know what summer's coming and the routine sort of go out the window. But I do the same with that. Try. Again, try. But mine again, try. Mine are getting a bit older now, so it's more of a difficult thing. I mean, I was, in the other night, it went lay down.

And I was thinking, come in a minute out, it feels like you just go lie around the pool. Half nine at night. Still warm. Yeah. Like, sun, that out, sunlit, it's nice, hot. But yeah, that's definitely, do you know what? I need to do exercise because I bought a yoga mat. I could go, I'm thinking years ago, Bill.

Oh, I was going to say, live it was like, really. I let you use it for everything else and in between. and I don't think I've done one exercise only, or yoga, or just something. You've never been an exercise person. But I do want to do something, even if it's just yoga or something like that. Just for, that's a bit hard in it? No, yoga's worse. Oh, is it?

Well, I don't know which one's worse, but I find yoga boring because yoga is more, well, from what I understand, maybe I'm completely wrong. But yoga is you hold a pose and you just hold it. So it's like, intensive. Yeah, like it's about breathing and stretching and da-da-da-da. The lattes are similar, but it's more of like a strength. like it's more of a movement. Yeah. I couldn't stand and hold poses.

Well, I see, who is it? I think it's Stacey Sullivan's sister actually. Yeah. She started doing this fitness thing and she's quite small like me too. Because she's, yeah, she's really naturally thin. It's not about losing the weight. It's being fit. Yeah.

That's why she's, I want to be strong. And that's for me as well. I do want to start doing stuff like that. I want to be strong. I want to know that like, if anything, happened, like, I could do something. Well, yeah, I feel like I could anywhere. I'm sure.

Hopefully. And I would press a band and don't even a whole. Oh, did you see this thing that's gone viral? There was a girl who, um, I can't remember exactly what it was. I don't know if she went to be grabbed or someone started. No, it was a man. I tried to grab her. No, I don't think so.

It was either England or America, I think. But I think she went, like, someone tried to grab her, like, as if to kidnap her. and she was 14, she knows Jiu-Jitsu, she beat him off her. Good. That's what they go for these things for. Well, it's not. It is. It's not.

It is because it shouldn't happen. It shouldn't happen. But like, if this is a thing to get any of your kids, especially daughters, into, like, defense training, that's the thing. I want to be strong. Like, if anything happened to me or to the kids that I could do something. Same. I send my kids Lexi.

Yeah. Well, there you go. Why don't I do it? You know what I mean? And it's weird why I don't do these things. I know. And I'm like saying, Kason, you should have at least one or two hobbies. Yeah.

Why don't I don't have any hobbies? We've got the podcast now. We've got one. You should sit and chat, all right? It's, yeah, such a hard, hard. Just get through our mental health. Yeah. Thank you.

Thank you. No, it's true. It gives us the time to catch up. Yeah. And like saying that now I have actually this week. I have actually this week. Well, kind of. Because it's been June and we've gone into a new month, I'm like, right, I'm going to, I'm going to do something every day.

Yeah. So I have three, four days in a row done a little exercise routine on YouTube in the living room. So I've done one or two with like, even before the kids have gone to bed. But then I've done one or two once they've gone to bed. That's good. So I've done, I've got little weights and that Liam bought from like, you know, the magical aisle of Liddle. Yes. When you come home for our day.

whatever it is. Yeah. So, I mean, bread and you come home with all these. Yeah, exactly. I mean,

he got these last year, I'm sure. It's like my mat. for a long time. Yeah. So again, we started and that we stopped. But no,

I've done it. And Kaysen got involved because we've got smaller weights and a bigger weight. So I took the big ones. He done the little one. So he did one with me. That's good.

Literally five minute arm workout. That's good. And then I did 10 minutes and 15 minutes Pilates, like abs and flas. That's really good. So I'm trying to stick to it. But again, I just...

Yeah, it's that energy. But you feel so much better after you've done it. Everyone tells me they do. Everyone tells me they do. It's true. Honestly, in the minute I'm doing it, I'm like, oh my God, this feels so good. Yeah. And you just feel more revitalised.

But I've been doing it in the evenings, which is like the wrong time to get energy. Yeah. Because now I actually want to relax. Yeah. I remember when Mitch used to go to the gym. If he'd miss the gym, sorry, in the morning, he'd go obviously on the night just because the needs to go sort of thing and he'd come back and he'd be buzzing

and I'd be like right I can't be dealing with you like this since I'm like you're trying with me and saying you're going to have to just stick to the mornings and if you don't go you don't go no because Liam does the same he comes back from football training

and then he's like awake and I'm like I'm dead I'm like yeah to be fair I used to do the same when we came back from dancing yeah isn't it like you just have that like I don't know I have a little bit energy you just sit in there like okay should we go bed

yeah no so I've been doing in the evenings but I want to try and do it in the mornings but you know i'm i'm i you're up at six so you've got no excuse very true very true um so i'm going to try i'm going to try and do it in the morning like oh we're at the six again it's maybe using that thing isn't it i mean ideally it'd be up at seven and then you just use that and do that because i'm never going to be i saw a thing that it was like oh how to like boss being a mum or just how to like like hack being a mum was there's no hack there's no there's no there is that there is no hack.

I just put out of there. Yeah, there is no secret. But it was a couple of things that worked, this woman said, was like a load of laundry a day to keep on top of it. Get up before your kids. Just never going to be one of their months. Mitch Wood does. Yeah.

I don't. I'm just, especially we hadn't getting up a six. Yeah. What do you expect to go up at five? No, definitely. I'm just never going to be. And like all this like culture around, you know, the 5am club and, you know, to be an entrepreneur, to be a six.

successful business person be up you know i'm just never going to be that person yeah i don't think they live in europe or spain and they have like the hours that we have and the nights that they have nothing starts at 11 o'clock here in the summer okay yeah no i just i'm just never going to be early biser my body clock is into that six o'clock now so yeah you're there but you're not feeling it i'm waking up i don't want to get up exactly it's like i'm already convincing myself oh this is so early which i should just i think if i go to bed an hour hour and a bit earlier then you know if I get eight hours sleep and I get up at six it's going to be better than at the moment I'm getting like six hours sleep

that's the late and the open do you know what I mean I've not I'm not a very good morning like early do you know what I mean but then Mitch is do you know I mean so he just does this thing in the morning and then yeah I think like say if I get up wake up and ruin it do my little 10 15 minute that's flat his workout then maybe I'll feel a bit more I should I'm going to drink a big glass of lemon Himalayan salt water morning. Have my little supplement when it comes. Do a little face tone in the morning. When does this next week? We'll be different people. You watch. Or the biggest probability is that we come back next week and we've done that.

Yeah. Let's at least try and come back with something. Like we've done something. Little micro habits. Micro habits, micro commitments are what changes your life. Yeah. Big transformations don't come from. changes. I feel like we're really trying to talk ourselves. I know I am. I'm trying to convince myself, right? And this is all the stuff that I tell people at work. Like, we can't change your life overnight because it's just not sustainable. You can't, it's like you can't stick to things when they're too different from the way that you do things. The way in which you change your life, the way in which you have these big transformations, uh, multiple micro habit changes and little micro commitments. That's how you change your life. It's all right. I've been lazy.

days but don't have to be only um from which is cool yeah i think that's it if you have a lazy day if you don't do it yeah tomorrow's a new day don't throw it completely out window i've had more than one or two lazy days okay i'm aware so i'm going to come out of it but then it's it's i saw something as well today um a woman who's super fit super in shape you know she's got cookbook she's very um you know eats very well and stuff and she was like 80% of the time i eat well percent of the time I don't. And when I don't, I don't feel guilty and I don't make myself feel bad about it. So it's like you have to rest. We have to recharge, you know, especially with hormones and all these things and ill children, late nights at work. You're not going to

be able to do the same routine every day. So it's when you have them changes or the tougher times, be kind to yourself, let yourself rest. Pick it up again next week. Pick it up again tomorrow. Yeah. And try again. I like that. I like that. Well, be nice. nice to yourself. I actually feel better. No, it's true because I think I've fallen into that a little bit. Like, when I don't get things done or if I haven't been as productive or I haven't got all my little things that I've promised myself I want to do to feel better, then I make

myself feel bad. Yeah. And then that's not productive for anyone. Yeah. Like, even for me today, I... Because then you get stressed. Well, this, even for me today, like, I have, like, where I said, I've been a bit more, you know, like, just can't be bothered.

And again, that could be the just the change in the heat or just love to see this week has just been one of those weeks having an... I did. I got some stuff done today and rather than me just being, well, well, that looks good. Like, you've done well there, smashed it kind of thing. I'm like, yeah, I've still got that and I've still got that and I've still got that. You know, that rather than be like, well done, you've done that, it was more of like I'd have a dig to myself in my own mind. Yeah. That's what I think stressing me out a lot at the moment is I'm walking around the house and I'm like, that needs to be done. That needs to be done. I need to do this. I need to get

that. And it's like, just the list just goes on. And then like feeling overwhelmed with, I just, I'm in a proper mood to just throw everything out of the house. I don't do any of it, yeah, forget it. Throw everything out. And I've done a few big purges lately, actually. I had a bag like that big that my niece took to cut on have-binted and make money. I was like, take it, take it. Because otherwise, it's in my house.

Then I'm like, right, do I just put it by the bins at the, you know, the men that come around, collect things, which is what I normally do? But then I'm like, I should actually give it to charity. But then do I just dump a bag? a charity shop who then charge for it or do I, there's this woman who does always ask for help on Facebook for families that she's helping

and I'm like, I'd rather give it to her to just give to the families that need it rather than give it to a charity shop who then has to sell it to then has to them give the money to charity. You know what I mean? I'd rather give it to her. Especially like a lot of baby things just give it to the families that need it. So then I'm like, oh but I don't know

where the collection points are and then things just get put in the corner and then they mount up and then I'm like just getting stressed with all the stuff but how do you want to throw everything away? Yeah. I'm, I get, I get like that. Sometimes I'm looking at it down and sometimes it would just go on for weeks and why, why? Yeah. Why am I waiting so long just to, sometimes just to ask someone something, a simple, you know, what's this for this or whatever? Do you know what I mean to get something sorted?

And you're like, I'm just taking weeks to do that. Why? You know, it's like, well, you're not going to help, you're clearing out. You keep shoving on Instagram. I know, I know. So be fair, it's, um, wellness stuff. Wellness stuff, exactly. Wealth is health. Yes.

You can never, it's never a, wealth is health. Health is wealth. I was like, yeah, yeah, no, that's not right. It's all right. Health is wealth, yeah. To be fair, maybe if you're wealthy, I'm sure. You're going to be healthy with that. No, it's true.

But, yeah, you can't waste money if you invest it in yourself. Yeah, yeah. Whether it's education, whether it's wellness. That's what I tell myself anyway, with all the 50 books that I've got in my bedroom that I've not read any. I just see the on the shelf. I'm like, oh, that could be great to me, yeah. Lim bound to me from buying books at the moment.

He's like, until you read some, you're not allowed to find it all. I want to start reading. I think I've said this before. I do want to start reading. Obviously, I think I need to get the baby out the room so that I can then go to bed and have a bit of a light on and do these things and try to go to bed earlier. You might, you should try that. Have you tried putting him in a bedroom?

No. There you go. What have you tried then, Bill? Come on. I haven't tried much, I know. Well, I've tried to drop a nap. We've tried to... Where we're going to put him?

Exactly. Do you want a podcast room? Because at the moment, this is his bedroom that we don't have right now. So, yeah, no. Soon we'll think of a new solution for the podcast room to then put him in his room. Because generally, he is sleeping. Like I say, last night he woke up for an hour in the middle of the night. That wasn't fun.

But touch wood, most nights, he is sleeping through. He's just getting up early. And, which is not such, I can say, six, he's not such a bad thing, but I'll get you. Just that, even just half an hour. Even just call, two, seven, just that, you know, just that bit closer. Half six onwards, I could just about do it. Especially in the summer, because it's warm in the mornings. If it was winter, I wouldn't be wanting to get up a half six.

It's just, it's a different mentality, different five. I can just about manage half six. But it's like, he was going to bed at seven, half seven. But now he's going to bed at half eight, nine, and you're still getting up early. So it's like, I'm putting into bed later. I'm dropping a nap. What you want from me? Try to feed him, like, food and then give him a bottle before bed.

I'm still dream feeding him at like 11-ish to try and fill him up to keep him asleep longer. Is that you have? You literally, yeah. Yeah, we've tried. I wouldn't say I've tried loads things, but I've tried the first things that you do. But yeah. I feel like I forgot all of it. It's terrible, isn't it?

Yeah. But then they do say I've seen sleep experts like, that say sometimes they're sleeping too much or sometimes they're not sleeping enough in the day. So it's literally like a recipe of how much sleep that they should have in the day and how early before bed they should be awake. It is literally like a formula. Yeah.

And if you give them too much sleep or not enough sleep, you fuck it all up. But yeah, at the moment it's all, I say it's all fucked up. It's like I say, the odd day when he wakes up, it's a killer because it's like, oh. But if he sleeps through, if he sleeps through, as long as I go to bed at a reasonable hour. Yeah, it would, it's, it's, it's, it's a benefit from it.

I can handle it. It's just a few nights of waking up at stupid o'clock. Kaysen was in our bed last night as well, randomly. Oh, I don't you just love them nights when it's like musical beds or, you know what I mean? Like, yeah. Luckily, he doesn't come in our bed that often. But then last night, he did just randomly roll over and cuddle me. Oh, yeah.

Okay, I'll put up with that. Well, this is it? And then the other one woke up to make them. And then I had one in my arm on the edge of the bed, the other one's arm and leg on me. And I was like, right, the niceness was worn off. It was nice for five minutes. Yeah, and I swear they're telepathic.

Like, with waking each other up, like, and sometimes it's not even the noise. Sometimes, cases in his room, he's not even made a peep that they telepathically are awake. So it's like, I can't even try and get one back to sleep. And then it's like, all right, then let's go in the living room. Yeah. I'm just not a morning part of that stage obviously

but I just said I didn't just be having one seat child I feel like I have gone back to that couldn't do it I don't think I'd survive having another child that changed Liam has joked a few times like you want another one dear I'm like I don't actually think I could cope

I think I would crack up I can just imagine what the body change as well like you say you're still going through yeah so I've got no excuse I just need to kick myself at the bum and get moving motivation yes yes summer's been nice as well like I say it's a lot easier to do these things in summer I feel a lot more motivated or inspired shall I say to do these things and care about

myself in the summer I need to go shopping out I think that's my biggest problem we've said it before and I'll say it again is that I'm just grabbing crap out the fridge or no no I'm on about food wise like the other day I actually went to I Iceland for myself for some random reason and I went shopping yeah I don't even know why I ended up shopping just want to get out of the house probably yeah paint the baby let me out um and I grabbed like a hummus but then for lunch one day at work I had loads of chopped up cucumber some tortilla bread and hummus and that was a really nice satisfying filling but not bloated lunch yeah that was quite nice and then I had chopped up pineapple afterwards and I was that oh wish I like pineapple

I didn't until I had COVID and then I'd really like pineapple, yeah. That's bad. I used to hate pineapple. Even the smell and they're squash, I think it's just orange. Oh, I couldn't. I don't like pineapple squash. I don't like pineapple squash, but I like real pineapple. And I don't like pineapple sweets.

I don't like anything to pineapple apart from actual real pineapple. It's a bit like coconut. I only like Malibu. Minging. So I haven't drank, I couldn't tell you that I drank that too. But I used to, like, in, more than you anyway. When I was in Barcelona. my friend was like oh we got some chocolates we'll have like something and then she'd give me one

and I was like I've not had these before that it was that Raffello brand or whatever brand it is and it looks really like posh chocolate yeah put it in my mouth and I was like it's coconut run to the bin get rid of it got it don't you really like think something it looks yeah and it was yeah and it was like in my head I was thinking like a frereur-a-roche or like a king Buenno, like, yeah. And then I was like, oh no, it's going to that. No, but I don't eat bad. It's just being organised.

I don't eat bad. I'm just with, with, that's what I'm saying. I'm more like everyone else doing it. It makes you go out of breakfast and lunch. Well, I Pinterest loads of like healthy lunches and I like healthy food. I'm just not organized enough to have it in the house. And then I asked Liam to go and get me the things. He gets the things.

And then I don't actually make the effort to do it in time before it goes on. So what I've said I'm going to try and do is I'm going to batch my lunch Because I don't mind I don't mind Yeah It's all in the prep Yeah

It's all in the prep And I mean I'm quite happy to eat the same thing Like Liam would not eat the same lunch Two days in a row Even Kaysans like can I have bites again for lunch Yeah No you had him yesterday

But I really won bites No you had them yesterday Like he will not Or like spaghetti bolognaise Yeah but we have pasta yesterday Yeah but it's a different part No you had pasta yesterday The, you know, that's a bit, a day.

I mean, yeah, it's a bit, yeah. But I'm happy, so I'm like, look, I don't know if I could do the same thing. But for lunch, though, like, I'm, like, just batch the lunch. Because I like these little, like, rice bowls where you do, like, some chicken and some, like, cucumber and red onion and tomato and some, like, Tziki and some rice and just have a bit of, like, a Mediterranean, like, Greek bowl. Or, like, even, like, a taco bowl kind of thing, like, with Mexicanese. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And peppers and stuff. I say that I would, but then I feel like I don't want to kill.

it and then I'd never want it again. That's what I do. I do that thing. I literally kill everything. I'll have like, for... Get a lot. Yeah. And then I'll never eat it again. I did that when we went before and we remember I all did that tuna melt thing. Yeah. And I started making it home. I do this. When we go out, I'll find some meat and then I start making it home.

And then I kill it. And now I just really don't want that. Do you want this? I'm like, no. He's like, but you just had it like for the last help. You know what I mean? I killed. No, I do it. I do it as well. I shouldn't do that. I don't do it with meals because I don't actually make things. But like, come on Sorado. I went for a stage of like that was always in the fridge

or like chorizo that was always in the fridge or you know whatever it is Liam will end up buying it because he knows that I like or sweets or thing and then I'm like

I kill it or crisp whatever it whatever flavour I do the same with that if I've you know what I mean I'd have to I think I just have to

try and switch you up a little bit to do that but I do that will help no I'm happy to my idea if I ever get around to doing it is to like say

plan plan dinners for at least two three days in a row and just pick one thing that I'm happy to have for lunch or even two things and then just have it in the fridge

so it's a grab and go. I just don't have the time or I do have the time but I just don't allow myself to have the time to do these things or it's the energy I just I can't be bothered. At the minute I am anywhere

I can't be bothered if it wasn't for Liam literally bringing me drinks and food into my office I just wouldn't even eat and drink and now I complain why I have no energy yeah I'm the same exactly the same

but now it's summer Now like, you know, a fancy more lighter things and more healthier things and salads and, you know, I quite like salads but with like cooked chicken and stuff in it. And, you know, I think summer is a great time to do these kind of things. It helps, but then on the other time, sometimes my appetite goes in the heat. Yeah. That's true. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Probably why me and Liam have ended up having dinner at like nine o'clock. Yeah. And then I feel all Spanish. I know. That's what I mean. That's exactly what I mean. I'm over siesta and everything.

Yeah. Not even thinking about dinner At all, God knows what time I do get that What they do is a lot there It's a bit late What they have their snack But yeah

But yeah Don't know of the history on myself I was talking about it actually It's nice Well yeah If anyone has any ideas Of how to get a baby To wake up any late

At the 6 o'clock Please Please message me Help a mum out They're like six tall That's nothing Mine awake and stuff But this

I was gonna say I should It's not a bad time It's not too bad It's just because You probably thought that with the clock changing it would have gone it would have changed after a while

and gone back to his normal and it's like shift it you know just like 15 minutes like a week back to normal or closer to seven like you say closer to seven and even when he stays out is it the same um yeah okay yeah because mine would do all these things

and then they'd stay up many and grand that said oh no they didn't do that but what yeah no where my mum's been here is quite similar but yeah yeah well anyone help him out Half a mom out. Just half an hour. Or just tell me that your kids get up at five and make it feel better.

Whichever way. And then you have a yoga I'm out in the corner of this mid-ended years too. Yeah, exactly. Thanks. YouTube exercises for you, I think. Yeah. But no, thanks again for listening, following, supporting. And I will bring you my new Instagram purchases next week.

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