The Rising’s Growing Together Podcast - I Nearly Cancelled My Wedding Dress Appointment... Ep.16

Episode Date: May 16, 2025

Charlotte nearly cancelled her wedding dress appointment and it turned out to be one of the most meaningful parts of her wedding planning journey. In this episode, Charlotte and Billie get real about the stress, surprises, and emotions that come with planning a wedding. They talk about family dynamics, bridesmaids, guest list drama, and the pressure to follow traditions. Whether you’re engaged, married, or just love a behind-the-scenes moment, this episode brings heartfelt reflections and honest advice.

Welcome back to another episode. Cheers. Cheers, everyone. Today we don't have a coffee or a smint. We have a blue WKD. Feels up a long day. Had a long day. I'm joining her.

Straight in from a full day of training, the team, which was really good. It's, I've got a bit of a headache now, but that's only because I get quite hyped up and it gives me a lot of energy. Yeah, it takes a lot of energy. It takes a lot of energy, but it also gives me a lot of energy. So I'm like a bit... It's like having three coffees. I feel a bit wired. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

After... I'm just like, what are you doing? And now, like, I've stopped for a minute. It's like... So I've got in, I've been actually out of the house today, hence why I'm a little bit... Freshly dressed today. So I was in the office and then I come back in and I was like, oh, I knew you were coming over and I was like, oh, I've got a headache and how day. And Lee was like, I'm joking.

Well, no, we plan to record because I'm away this week. So we're actually recording on a Monday today, but you're going. get this on a Friday. Monday vibes. So yeah, I've walked in and then was like, I've been indoors all day with the kids, so I'll go to the shop and get you a drink if you want. I was like, that's a bit long. He's like, no, I'm very happy to go.

So, yeah, I was like, well, if you're going to go get us a blue kid. That's one of our drinks for the night out, isn't it? Our little soft drink. I say soft drink. It's an alphallic drink, but it's our week's drink. We don't drink much anymore. No, no, no. You'll see when this is finished, how we are. I know, I'm a joke.

I'll be that way. Yeah, it might be a bit louder by the end of the episode. No, it's nice. Nice shout, nice. But, yeah, oh, that hits the spot. It is a long day. It is nice. So, yeah, it's only really been a few days since we recorded.

But, yeah, like I said, I've had a busy day at work. But you've had a busy weekend. Yeah, I did. I went to my wedding dress appointment. Yeah? That was, I don't even know what it's called. But I went to the, yeah, so I had an appointment to go and look at wedding dressive. I know, I know.

I wasn't very excited, I have to say. Okay, how did the day start then? You know, I think stereotypically, or maybe just most women are, you know, really excited and, you know, can't sleep to get up there. I was probably the, I didn't really, really think much of it, do you know what I mean? Because I'm not, you know, I'm not so nowadays, anyway, plan ahead, you know, if usually I'll just see what's there when, before we go out and that'll be it. Because otherwise it would go over thinking.

and then it will just become more of a stress. So something's in there and I'll find it and it'll be fine. So, yeah, I think I felt a little bit like it the day before anyway. Maybe it was subconscious anxiety. Who knows, do I mean? So, yeah, I woke up of the morning and I just thought, oh, could really not do with this. Yeah, I don't want to get up and get ready to go.

It wasn't even early. But it was just, I think I was just making excuses and making myself anger with everything, really. Sometimes when you're just not in the mood, Yeah, it was that. And again, I'm not a plan person. So I think it was more, if I had woke up that day without an appointment, I'd thought, no, I'm not feeling it today. It's not the right day to go and try and come on because I'm just going to go no to everything. Yeah. But because sometimes we have them days. It's not really anything's happening. It's just maybe hormones, mood swing. Whichever. Exactly. Exactly. Like, yeah, like shit's getting real in a way, you know, or a bit closer. So I do really need to plan because I don't really have it. Right, everything's still quite up in the air. Yeah, yeah. Very up in the air.

Not that we're not getting married, but it's just whatever, what we're actually doing, you know what I mean? Yeah, to mark it or celebrate it. You had a venue, you cancelled the venue. Yeah, all this, low. So everything's still up in the air.

Yes, yes, yes. So very nearly cancelled the appointment in the morning. I actually was, I was going upstairs to get my phone to call the place and make some excuse. Well, in my head theory I wasn't lying because I was going to say, I'm just not feeling very well, which is kind of true. But as I went upstairs, I had a miss call, actually, off my sister-in-law, who had Lexi,

and Lexi was coming with me. So, weirdly enough, maybe if it was anyone else, I probably wouldn't have returned the call, you know, and I just would have carried on with what I was doing. Yeah. But I returned the call to my sister-in-law, and obviously she heard it in my voice. Then I've gone, you know, like, I don't want to do, I don't even want to go to the appointment. and she's literally obviously just pet taught me out of it like sort yourself out this isn't even for you this is for lexie my mum literally like that and um i bet it's easier to sort yourself out when you think oh lexie's probably so excited for this exactly exactly even my mum

my mum was waiting and to see if you're going and i'm her only daughter you know this experience for her as well is is a massive day yeah so uh so yeah she she definitely shook me out of my little kind of tantrum or whatever was going on with me and so then Lexi came back from from hers and she's done all her hair so she'd done all her hair

ready for the day and oh it was lovely so I did go to the appointment and it was lovely it was such a lovely day it was really was to be honest I've tried on a lot of dresses more than 10 and I wouldn't say more than 10

close to 10 yeah I got to obviously your point with the way home as well was like I felt like right I've got to stop now I'm getting a bit fed up and you won't go in there specifically to try and find a dress it was more just have the experience get some ideas like I think you you didn't have that pressure so you didn't have to keep trying yeah and I know that well I did ask her and she said that they have a 90% rate that on these appointments all the 90% that they buy their their wedding dress there and then which is great do you know what I mean and there's a song that plays every time I think it's the wedding march that plays every time some someone says yes to address or a man to like a suit in this shot and it didn't stop going and I was thinking oh I don't really feel like I'm close to saying yeah do you know what I mean um but the lady even did say to me um you're not going to say yesterday are you I was like no I won't be saying yesterday but I knew I wasn't in my head well I could have if I found it I probably would have but in my head I was like no today I'm not it's not the day and I'm just I think it depends how you go in like exactly maybe yeah exactly um so I told her what I didn't like and that's

first dresses she came out with and in the end with a bit of adjustments they ended up being more of my favourite type of dress which i don't know if that's normal for the bride they do say that um you end up like a or the dress that you end up going for is not what you thought you'd go for i think out of about like six there was six dresses sorry that i could have probably picked a little bit of everyone and made it into it you know because none of them were the one but I did like little bits of a few well I only got one picture from one of the dresses that you put on and I thought that was amazing yeah I don't even know like what of that dress that you didn't like because if you said that that was the one I picked

I would have been like yeah suited you look lovely on you oh my god yeah which one did like was it like a lace thing at the back it had the back was all pretty and then it had probably because your boots are a bit out that you probably didn't like it because I know you're like i know i know it's weird then you could have because it was quite um it was quite low but it had like the net see through so you could have put the lace net in to cover any so this was part of it i think part of it was i think certain things that i was saying i liked the lady was saying you know like scientifically you can't have fat dress yeah you know it doesn't go with that typical of why wasn't have a low back and a detail

it doesn't exist um but um the experience um the experience was amazing. It was brilliant. It's a really nice place. It really was. It was lovely. Compared to, I mean, it's the same place that I got my job. I fed this to my mom. Where I went and to wear like the places now. Another level.

For a friend of ours. They've literally transformed. Another level. In the eight years. Yeah. Honestly, it's insane. It is, it is immense. Like I was so and then so we got a little bag. Me and Lexi got a little bag and I got, you know, like your wedding.

dressing gown. I know it's not called that but you know like a slip. I don't know what the blem and hell they're called. You know the dressing gown thing that you wear? Yeah, robe. There you go Bill. It's not a dressing gown. Clearly I don't have one of these things. Do you know what? Americans call a dressing gown a house coat. Yeah, so do. It's Scottish I think

because obviously... What the fuck is a house coat? Imagine. Housecote. Just stuff to get my house coat so coat. Obviously the kids' friends are Scottish as well. So some of their moms we have... I've had this conversation. It's so bizarre. Over and over.

There's a few other things like that. I can't think of the top of my head now. But, yeah. Carry on. Yeah, a robe. So I got the robe. And there was like these glass water bottles that Lexi had her eye on. So although they wasn't given, Nanny bought her one of those to take home.

So Lexi came out with a whole goody bag. But yeah, no, the experience is great. It gives me a few ideas. I definitely feel more, because I'm not very educated, let's say, on styles of dressing. so there's like mermaid and there's a line I don't think the only people are unless a wedding is like something you're obsessed of since you're little

if you're one of them kind of girls then you probably know all the words like even like oh brilliant cut diamond cut the clarity and all those things and I'm not so that was probably difficult for the lady when she was asking me

I was like I don't know but she did say that I was sort of sticking to the same style in a way which I was okay then I'm not sending you two crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because these women are so good at their jobs, I have to say.

Yeah, you think it's just grabbing something like the rack, but... They are not. They are not. So I'd shout out to Susanna there at Sedcanovia. There you go, little... Yeah, she was good, I have to say. A little inside... Yeah, yeah, no, she was fab. For someone who's no idea.

And just generally... A difficult client. Yeah. Just generally, the experience was great. In the end, obviously, after my little meltdown. So that was lovely, really lovely. And then we went. for lunch after and finish off the day, which was, which was great.

Yeah. So, yeah, no, as a day started as if I weren't doing it. Yeah. You're glad you did. I'm glad I did. Yeah, I'm really glad I did. But the only thing now is that I have thought, I haven't even told you this. Okay.

I don't know, I had to think about, well, I thought, I need to see if it replied to me, of bringing my wedding earlier. Not my celebration. The actual league or my ceremony, yeah. What made you do that? Because of how I fell on that morning, I think, I thought, oh, I'm planning on more or less doing it in the same week, aren't I? And I thought, oh, that's just going to be too much for me. And why I'm not, then, why am I doing it? Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. And talking about all the time of, it's about us. And really, the way I've done it, I've done it thinking of other people. All right. Does that make sense? So I've, maybe this experience made me think of this for a reason. I don't know. But I've asked to see if they could change it.

So, I don't know. I might need a dress sooner than I think. Yeah, because you're going to wear the dress to both. Well, I'm planning. I'm wearing the same dress. Yeah. I'm not planning on having one dress for one and one or the other. It's just because when I did the legal bit, I didn't wear a dress.

Which a lot of people don't do that. Or they wear, let's say they don't make a fuss on of the outfit. fit so much. It depends. Like you say, you're doing it a little bit differently to us. So obviously you're doing the legal bit. You're making more of a thing of that. And then the secondary bit when everyone comes together is going to be more of a celebration. You're not doing a ceremony. So it is a little bit different. Whereas I had the legal bit. Which we wouldn't have known about in a way. Which nobody would have known about because on the actual day, which was a fake day. We done the aisle. We did the, we signed a fake rig.

Yeah, we did all of that. So we did, obviously, everything on that. So we made less of a thing of the legal side of it. But we did ours eight, nine months apart. Yeah. Which I think, I think a lot of people do have. That was from what a friend told me. Yeah.

So she got married the year before in the December. And she went to Gibraltar quite a bit of time before. I think, wow. I think she went in like August So August to December's quite a long time frame But she was like oh my God Like if you're planning on doing it Because our wedding day was September

If you're planning on doing it just before Don't go in August It's a nightmare traffic people tourists All of that so I was like right Well I definitely can't do it the summer So I'm going to have to do it at least maybe four months before And then it just so happens that when I reached out to them They gave me

Date and Well this is a bit funny actually because they gave me what I thought was like the day we met, which was the day before my birthday. So in my head, I thought we'd done the legal bit on the 24th of November, the day we actually met. And I thought, oh, that was nice.

That's like, even though I'm not counting the legal side of it, and I count my wedding anniversary as the fake one, at least it's linked to something. So the day that we met. Yeah, some connection. When I've actually gone back into it only in recent years, I got married on my birthday. Did you?

I got married the day after, on my actual birthday. So it was your birthday? You didn't even... Well, obviously, at the time I'd must have known, but years later, I just thought I'd done it the day before. You've got that memory in your head. In my head, I thought it was the 24th. But no, I actually got married on my birthday.

Which is still kind of the night of right, because we met on the night of the 24th, which went into my birthday, which is the whole point, because we met on my birthday. But, yeah, actually, the legal date for our wedding... It's funny anyway, you have these things in your head. So, like... Yeah, that is it.

And then... I'm told people like, oh, really? The document does that? I'll probably don't know about most stories I've been on here. Like, my mom and my brother, like, my dad, no, you never. Or even friends, I never heard. What are you about? It's true, and it.

Everyone remembers things differently. And sometimes you'll have a conversation. You'll be like, do you remember that? I'll be like, no. Yeah, or the other way around. Yeah. So we ended up going in the November. We didn't actually do the big celebration with everyone until the following September.

So that gives us a long time. to have things, you know, like spread out. Like I say, you don't want a stressful week because also the week that everyone travels is the week that everybody wants to see you. Especially when you're in Spain, you get a lot of people coming over on holiday. So they want to see you more than just on the wedding day.

And do you feel, what's that word? What's the word? Do you feel like you need to see everyone in that? You know, like, obliged. Yeah. You know, because, right, everyone's here for you in a way. Yeah. I feel like you might not have done but I haven't got there yet.

You know, everyone's here for you and it's all this run up to your day and da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And you feel like you need to give them that time. Yeah. But obviously not everyone's together. You've got other stuff to sort out maybe in that week. Yeah. There's a lot going on. Yeah.

There is a lot going on, isn't there? So I just didn't have. And obviously you've got lots of different groups of people. Yes. It doesn't matter how close your family and friend unit are. you're still the still group yeah we had liam's family we had my family i had uni friends come over i had college friends come over i had one of my childhood friends come over so um which we'd all sort of a little bit met at the hen didn't we so yeah girl wise let's

girl wise people would have met at the hen which was in the june july of the you know a couple of months before so some of the girlfriends had met um but obviously we're talking about parents and, you know, family members and that have, you know, there's some of fat, Liam Stanley, they've never met some of my family. Yeah. So there was a lot. And I think, I'm just trying to think back. It was a busy week and we definitely did meet up with people that week leading up to

the wedding because my childhood friend that come over, she come over with her partner, daughter, who's my God daughter and who was my bridesmaid. And her mum and dad came over as well because obviously I've known them since I was like seven or eight. So I invited them too. So they come over for like a week's holiday. So it's like they're coming over for me, but they're also having like family time together themselves. So we did have like a beach morning or a beach day.

So we went and me and Liam popped down and we saw them. Yeah. So we kind of dipped in and out and we went like some of my uni friends that come over. They come over a couple of them and some with partners. So then we went for like dinner one day with them. Yeah. And then some of the. Yeah.

people I didn't actually see before or after um because some people were flying in you know the day before and flying out the day after so you didn't have the opportunity so where possible I did we did try I think but you didn't feel stretched so much I didn't feel oh we've got to go and do this no I didn't feel stretch from what I can remember um and where possible group lots of people together and see everyone all at once but I don't think I went out of my way completely to see everyone that come over for the wedding there would have been too many people no because I've heard so many different stories and I've seen experiences of, obviously, struggles with, you know, what guests you're inviting, shit between bridesmaids or dresses

or do your hen party, weekend nights who you invite in, what the cost of stuff, you know, you know, like all these things. For example, in, sorry, mum, in my, in my dress appointment. my mom questioned if I was going to be sleeping with Mitch the night before our wedding. Yeah. Which traditionally is something that you spend the night apart before the wedding. Yeah, yeah, traditionally. Yeah.

But I... Traditionally. No, I just said no. And it was like, oh, yeah, like, no, what, no. Yes, I am. And she was like, no, you're not. What I'm saying, the right thing then. No, you're not.

And I was like, yes, I am. Because for me, when Mitch, if I was to have to sleep probably the night away from him, on that night especially, I probably wouldn't sleep very well. I'd have a shit night's sleep. I'd wake up tired and stressed and more anxious, I suppose. I'd prefer to be with him and sit and relax and think, right, it's tomorrow, this is it, you know. And get up in the morning, have breakfast together with everyone and then separate just to get ready. and that's our plan, you know? And I didn't know if, obviously, this is just, obviously, my first question I've been asked

that someone's sort of, well, I was not, well, I disagreed with, but obviously it was more of a shock because obviously she's so traditional, you know. So I just didn't know if, well, did you have any questions like that off your mom or anyone? I think, did we give you shit as brave, brave? To be fair, I think I was very lucky with my bridesmaids. I've heard multiple stories as well with things like that going and causing loads of problems, which is not what the bride needs to be honest when you've got that much going on. But in terms of all like the little traditional things, I think my mum's quite open.

Yeah. So I don't, there wasn't really anything in particular that she would have been like putting on me or wished that I would have done it a certain way. You know, she's done things in the right way, the wrong way. You know, she's very open-minded as well. So there wasn't really anything that she really insisted that I did. I did spend the night apart from Liam because I think it was just, are you? Well, I guess so. Right.

Went along with it. Yeah. So, again, if I was to do it now, I would have, I'd be thinking each time rather than this is the way it goes. Do I want to do that? And if I had the choice, well, I had the choice then. I wasn't really forced into it. No, but like you say, you just question it. No, yeah.

I just kind of went, oh, that's what we do. Okay, I'll just do it. And it just made sense because I was getting ready at my mum's the following morning anyway, which is 20, 25 minutes away. So I just spent the night there. But yeah, going, if I was to do it now, I would absolutely spend the night of William because, again, we're very similar.

That's the way we would like to be. Catch up in the morning before, like, I'll see you in a few hours. That's the way I probably would have preferred it. Not that my experience was bad, but again, I just didn't think and I just went along with it. But having said that, in my mind, like, you say, oh, yeah, it would have been a nice experience to, like, spend the night, you know, with family or whatever.

And, yeah, I was like, oh, I was staying at my mom's house. But I ended up being in the shopping centre until 7, 8 o'clock at night, trying to find shoes for my sister the day before the wedding. And then getting back, by the time I'd had something to eat, I don't think I got into bed until 10-11. Not how I would have had it in mind, like, oh, you know, we'll chat all evening and we'll, you know, have, you know, watch a movie or, I don't know, whatever.

Because really, as a bride, they say, you should be doing anything, you know. And in a way, I think with having bridesmaids or, you know, close friends or, you know, your family, sometimes maybe asking too many questions, maybe, because it's not even a fact, maybe it's just that, it sometimes brings more stress. Yeah, totally. Maybe. Again, I don't have them, but I can only go on experiences of, I mean, For example, I even just sometimes planning a hen, I know I've experienced sometimes, and I think, oh, for goodness sake, you lot, like, you're either coming or you're not coming, you know,

or you want to get involved, or you don't want to get involved. Because this isn't about you, this is about her, this is for her, and this is it, you know. And, well, I will say it, when it comes to mine, anyone fucking around, they're not coming, all right? Yeah, get out of the WhatsApp group. I just think, you know, like, no, it's true. I think, oh, God. I think when it comes to getting married, hendos, kids, all of that, the more you talk about it, the more opinions you're going to get.

Unsolicited opinion sometimes where people just, you know, give you, I think this or I think that. And I think... Sometimes people help, but sometimes it just makes the situation. Well, sometimes it can make you question yourself. It can make you overthink something that you thought you'd already decided on. It can make you feel bad and maybe feel like you have to do something, which you originally didn't want to.

So the more people you speak to sometimes can go against... And sometimes it can open into your eyes actually how selfish your close ones are. Yes. Well, this is what comes up with a wedding. I think a wedding more than anything that you go through in life will show you who your true friends are and having kids, obviously, is another thing. But I think, you know, I've had it so many times with hens I've organised.

Yeah. With, I mean, I've got some stories of, like, when you organise my hens, some stories come back to me. but generally of some of the hens that I've been involved in or I've actually organised and I'm like, you're her closest friendship group and you're causing so many problems right now. Like there was one that was fairly local, fairly within, you know, I say cheap budget.

Obviously everyone's money's different, but it was well in advance. Feasable. People didn't have to fly, things like that. So it wasn't a super expensive hender, which I think nowadays they're getting more and more because everyone's, everything is special. Leveling up and up and up, aren't they?

So, like, but yeah, this was more than reasonable. There was, obviously, accommodation that you had to cover. There was a few activities, you know, to keep the couple of days fun. And then chipping in for, you know, a couple of, like, gifts or covering the hen's side of it. So that she didn't have to pay for accommodation or activities. Well, some people were like, well, if we're paying for all of this and we've got to pay for her as well. And it's like, between all of you, it's actually maybe 40, 50 quid each extra. and this is like you say you're on a hendu for her

I want to say I see other people say but in this situation I don't like I would fully cover yours I would expect you to cover mine like this isn't something that I expect from other people for me and I wouldn't do in return and like you say this isn't a random associate this is someone's wedding that you've been not only invited to the wedding day but you've been invited to the hendu which is very personal not every wedding guest goes to the hendu I think it's a big deal to be invited.

And sometimes some of these people were bridesmaids. So you have been distilled the honour of a bridesmaid. As someone, you can't go to the bride, can you? In that moment, obviously, after we'd tell you everything. Yeah, but in the moment, you don't want to ruin it. Like, your bridesma's a fucking bitch. Yeah, are these your mates or what? Where did you find these long?

Some are family as well. Don't forget. These aren't friends. Some are family. This is it. And everything's sweet until this. sign of a shape. It's real. And yeah, it is. It's like wedding brings out and I don't know if it's jealousy. I don't know if what the reason is, but you give me an ugly dress. I'll wear it. You tell me we're

going to a place I hate. I'm going. Like, this isn't about me and my decisions. I'm going wherever you want to go and I'm doing whatever you want to do. Exactly. Because with, with a, with, especially with the dresses, obviously the bride's picked them for you. Now, as it's someone is close to you, obviously, if I was to do that for you saying you didn't feel comfortable in something. I wear that clothes. I would hope that you'd go, look, I really don't feel comfortable. I'd probably know your reaction because I know you that well. But generally

I would hope that you'd go, I don't really like this. Or as soon as you see it, if you didn't like it, go, really? But that would be in a different situation. Do you know what I mean? The, um, what, oh God, I've lost. But realistically, should you give the bride that feedback? Or should you just suck it up and

wear it? In a way, yes. But I'm just saying if I was really, really, really that uncomfortable and really you are obviously one of my close friends or family to choose me for this personally I would want that person to come to me and be like I don't feel is there anything we can do

to maybe, you know what I mean? Yeah. And as the, if it was a group of people that come to me girls if you're not comfortable you don't like the look of it go that's an ugly dress style like you're really in theory as you want to wear it that fine because I'm quite open

to that kind of thing, you know but when it comes to to other things you know I just think like... Like if you had an activity that you specifically said, I want to do this on my hand, do it. I want to go to this place on my hand do. Exactly, because it's your hand and you like them things.

So that your hand is planned around you and what you like. Yeah. If someone doesn't want to get involved in something, because they're boring, or they just don't like that if it's an activity or they've got a fear of whatever it is. Fine, absolutely fine. But then don't make a big deal out of it. You just go, look, I'm out of it for one.

Exactly. I'll pay for it. But I'm there. But for example, we did a cat and rang trip. There's a couple people that I know that get travel sick. And there was someone that was really ill on the boat. But she still tried to come. She still tried to be there.

Other people took a tablet. I don't know if one person didn't come. But yeah, like... But I was eight and a half months pregnant. Exactly. And you were massively pregnant. And you wanted to get involved in water activities. And you couldn't.

I just sat there crying and like, ooh. Yeah, I think there needs to be a balance. So, because like you say, I think if, if you're really uncomfortable to the point that you really don't want to wear something, then you should be able to try and figure out a way around it. But then at the same time, I think, unless you're literally crying your eyes out, which some people would do that anyway, like just... I was going to say, depends on the person. And like you say, depends how much this issue, if it was an issue, an issue. But generally, no, it's not about you. It's about the bride and a group.

it. Whatever's been given, respect it, go with it. And like you say, a lot of times the brides pay. Yeah. So in that instance, you really shouldn't, you know, kick back at it. Or sometimes the bride might pick it and you have to pay, which doesn't happen as often from what I understand. That's a bit different. If I'm having to pay a lot of money for a dress, then I want to enjoy it. But then at the same time, it's your wedding. So, you know, you pick it and you go for it. I'll wear it. But I think it's when these little like dress alterations crop up or these extra costs like you've got to think of the pressure that a bride goes under with all the things that you have to pay for. You're budgeting for a long time. You're having to save up usually for these weddings. When these unexpected things crop up, you know, this is when normally what causes sometimes a problem because the bride like, I bought the dress but you know, you cover your alterations which I've I've been in the situation for um or hair and makeup

I think that's fair a lot of brides sometimes they pay for them sometimes they don't I don't but I feel that some people expect yeah people expect that to be covered well if you was going to the wedding right you'd be buying your outfit you do your own hair and your own hair and makeup yeah well if it was me wouldn't I'd go and get someone to do it because I'm not very good at it so I would be going to pay for for that do you know I don't I don't think I think it's nice for a bride to get the dress, the bridesmaid dress, I think because they get to pick it and, yeah, in a way they should cover the cost for that.

But I think I don't expect a bride to pay for hair and makeup. No. I think that's such an extra cost. If you have a number of bridesmaids, that could be an extra 500 quid. I don't, what I mean is I just think that people expect it. You know, like as soon as you get a title of bridesmaid, you kind of expect, oh, literally, they act like the bride.

Okay, so what shoes them are wearing? and what dress is it and what colour is it and what style is it and how are we having a hair and how we're... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah.

It's still about me. And I've seen... I've seen bridesmaids be more bridesillery than the bride. And, you know, that's not fair. I think at the end of the day as a bridesmaid,

the actual title is to make the bride's date better and easier. Na, you should be catering and trying to help her and take pressure and stress off her, not give her extra things to think about and extra decisions to make. Yeah.

I mean, for mine, I got the dresses. I'd give you guys the colour of the shoe but said, do what, you know, get whatever shoes you want, but get silver, I think, or white, or one of them. Anyway, I picked the colour. You said silver or white and I think we had to make the decision together, was it? Possibly, yeah. I don't remember that. And then you guys then decided and you bought whatever shoes you wanted.

I think you spoke about and some of you even bought the same ones. But it was down to you to, you know, the dresses were long, so it was very easy. But I've been a bridesmaid with a short dress. And it was, this is the colour of the shoe, go away. You didn't say, for example, you didn't say to us, right, I want all your hairs like this. No, I'll let you guys do. These exact shoes, I'll send you the link kind of thing. Well, I had to have mine dress altered for, not for fitting, but for breastfeeding, didn't I?

So I could breastfeeding in it. Yeah, because you gave birth. So I didn't then go, oh, there's the bill, bill. Exactly. Well, you decided to get married. What, at this time? Yeah, so, exactly. I covered the dress.

You guys got your shoes. I let you guys do your own hair. and makeup. Yeah. Which obviously you went and got someone to do that. I took your... You guys took my makeup eyes. That wasn't like...

That wasn't planned though. It just went like that. But yeah, no, I think, like you say, there's certain expectations that come and like, I don't think you should put any expectations on... No. If you're like involved or not involved, like on what you get paid for,

what you don't get paid for. Like if you invite me as a guest, if you invite me as a bridesmaid, tell me what you want and it will be done. Yeah. Tell me what you, like, weddings are expensive. Whether you're a guest, whether you're a bridesmaid, there are things that come, you know, even as a guest, you've got to travel. You've got to pay for accommodation. Like, there's lots of things about your outfit, you know. So there's.

As a guest, it's still an honour. And I think people lose that. They think, unless you're in the wedding party, then it's like, oh, well, it's someone's wedding. Yeah. It's like, they've chosen you to be in the wedding. Yeah. Out of all the people that they know, that's a privilege. They're paying for you to be there.

Regardless of whether they have buffet, sit-down meal, evening, reception, whatever it is. Usually they're paying for per guest to be there. So, yeah, I just think the level of expectation or, like, an entitlement. Yeah. Like, just make the bride's life easier. Yeah. Whether it's the hen, whether it's the wedding, whatever she wants goes. Yeah, I think, I think whatever you get told to pay for,

or pay for. Don't go. Yeah. You have that choice. Yeah, like you say, I'll suck it up and get on with it. Yeah, exactly. Like, if you pick an ugly dress and expect me to wear it, I'll wear it. If you send me to pay for it, I'll pay for it.

It's fine. Fine. I'm willing to, but I'm not going to tell you that. No, it is. It's true. There is a lot of, a lot of, you know, ups and downs that happen in between the, literally. I think we're just quite thoughtful friends, though. Possibly.

To be honest, I think, you know, from hearing, you know, through the Great Bina, the friends and what they experience and being, like, part of what's up groups for hens and all these things. Even say, I'm shocked at what some friends, family say. But even on hens, I've been with hens and it's like it turns into more, it turns into not about the hen because, I don't know, three of them are wrecked in the corner and, you know what I mean? and the hen's just like... Yeah. You know? Relax because of a stuff. Yeah, yeah, rather than it's...

You're supposed to be about this person, you know? That one person. When in fact, now it's about you. You know, because now we've all got to look after you. Yeah. In a way, you know? I think. I think.

Yeah. There's lots of dynamics that weddings throw up. You know, like family dynamics, friend dynamics. Before the wedding and even at the wedding, like you say, not everything always goes to plan. No. Things happen and like I say expectations until you start talking about the wedding. Like your mom expects you to spend the night apart.

You didn't know that until you got to the point of talking about it. Yeah, yeah. And even sometimes it's just someone could ask a question. And it's just a question. That's all it is, is a question just that they want to ask. I didn't think about that. But then it makes me overthink then. I'm like, oh.

Or it's so-and-so coming and you don't know. And then you think, should I be inviting that person then? Yeah. You know, it kind of makes your second question yourself on stuff. And maybe that person you ever asks, it doesn't mean of that. But it gets you going, doesn't it? And it's, at the moment, for me, I mean, I'm a little bit, Mitch is definitely easy to work with because work with, work with on this, this mission. Because he's just like, yeah, just whatever you want.

Whatever you want, really, whatever, because he's happy, he'll just go with the flow. Liam was the same. His only thing was, I don't want to get married in the church. Yeah. Anything else you want to do? Yeah, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's very thing with the invites. I think if I give him the invite situation, it would be, I could probably count on my age. And if anyone's questions, you should be like, ask Mitch. Talk to Mitch. Mitch's problem. Exactly. Because, yeah, like you say, I think,

I'm a bit of a people pleaser. I probably am more so than Mitch, definitely. And I think definitely 10 years ago. Yeah, yeah. If I got married now, I would have had a lot more of, you know, felt more confident in my decision to think now because that just naturally comes with age anyway. Yeah.

But back then, yeah, I think there was things that I would have done differently. It's because when you say this, it's because I'm more like with, yeah, but they are my, he's like, you haven't spoke to them for two years. Why would you, why? You know, and he's completely right in what he's saying. He's completely right. But then you feel on that deal. Yeah, I'm the one that has to maybe see them or them ask questions.

And maybe, maybe, again, I'm not so, we, me and Mitch generally, are not so like this. But maybe as well, if it was either way around and I didn't get invited, I'd be like, oh, I know we haven't spoke, but I would love to be a part of that. You know, for example, you know, maybe that's why, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is a, it is a weird one. Well, I think that's a good way of doing it because it's like if you wouldn't be offended if they didn't invite you, then you definitely shouldn't invite them yeah because if you're not offended if they don't invite you then are you that close that yeah because i'm not like that anyway you know in that way of yeah well you know

feel i don't feel entitled you know yeah it's fine it's your thing yeah but there is some people aren't there that you think oh no they would you know yeah they'd be upset if they were invited and and stuff and i think that's what's hard because you don't think like what you should think is if they told me they couldn't make it would i genuinely be big, like it. Yeah. If you would, then absolutely they should be on the invite list. If you get a no and you go, yes, one less person to pay for, then you know that they shouldn't

be on your guest list. And I started doing that. So I know that I invite people that I shouldn't have. Because I was like, oh, yes, one less person to pay for. That's a good little tip that. Yeah. So if you're not willing to pay for them or you don't want to pay for them or you're excited if you get a no, then that's the, yeah, play that situation out in your head.

And if you would genuinely be gutted that they wouldn't make it, then you know. that it's a true. I had an experience of I'm mostly can attend, you know, weddings and, you know, big events for people, whether it's here or in the UK or whatever. Because, you know, living here, it's not just one place, is it, you know? So, and usually I can go to everything. And there was one, one wedding that I couldn't, we couldn't go to at the time because it just wasn't the right time, whether it's financially or whatever the reason. And I had to say no. And I remember on the day, I was gutted. Yeah. I was. I mean they, they, I don't mean they wasn't. I don't mean that they wasn't. But obviously, they were absolutely fine that I wasn't there, absolutely fine.

But it was the one thing that I was just like, really felt like, oh, my God. Yeah. I really wish I was there, you know. It was all my family and it just looked, it's just one of those things, you know, that I was just like, oh, really gutted that I couldn't. Well, it's one for the lifetime experience, isn't it? Yeah, but you can't relive someone's wedding. You can't go to it next year. Yeah, yeah.

There's one wedding that I was invited to that I can think off the top of head that we couldn't go to because I was on the cusp of being 36 weeks pregnant and you can't actually fly. And obviously with the second, they could come any time. Cason came early. So I was like, you know, legally I actually can't. So it made a bit easier because if it was the week before, I probably would have forced myself to go knowing actually it's not safe.

Even though legally it's okay. I really shouldn't be travelling that far but yeah legally I couldn't go but I was going yeah I, in your case

it was like you definitely can't yeah mine was more of when it's your we made a decision on the fact of what how it was in that situation

and we made that decision that we couldn't do it and looking back I wish I'd just force myself and made myself just to do it because you end up figuring things out anyway

yeah and I just wished I'd done it because it was the one that I was just like, and again, they had a great time. The day really wasn't ruined that I wasn't there. But I, it's the one thing that I, even now, even now, I'm like, oh, you know. I even got, like, from messages, I wish she was here, you know, so I was just like, oh, from the, of the family.

Yeah, I do too. I really wish I was there, too. No, it's a tough one. It's a tough one because, like you say, you can't replicate that again. No. But obviously, when you make the decision, you have to stick with it. Yeah. But then it's obviously right for you at the time, but yeah, it's hard when you.

In hindsight, you're like, some things you just have to go with. But like you say, even planning for the day for us, I was thinking about different times of the year because of school, holidays here, holidays in the UK, different work programmes for different people in the family, thinking it was it suitable for them? And like Mitch said, this is our day. We've got a suit to us.

I did the same thing. You know? And actually, the venue that I ended up picking didn't have a huge amount of evadability. So I got married on a Sunday and I was like, oh, but people have to travel for work. And it's that I didn't realize this until after I started to get feedback from the guests that, oh, secondary school starts in England

the day after the wedding. So some people's kids were going into their first year of secondary school so they couldn't make it. Yeah. And so I was a bit like, oh, I didn't realize that. But again, it was, I didn't have much choice. No, but again, that's what I'm saying. It makes you ever think, okay, we need to change the date then.

We need to, you know, we've only got this time frame for the people. We can get married whenever we want to. But we're thinking about it. everybody else again, you know. You have to, to a degree, because like you say, if there's key important members of family that you want to be there, like one of the reasons why we got married in Spain and we didn't go far,

which would have been our first choice, was for, you know, Liam's nan. Because she would never have flown to Jamaica, to America, to other places that we originally were first looking in. So, and we knew we didn't want to get married in England. So this was like the next best choice. And you knew that was, you, she would be. able to get there. She would be able.

I mean, she didn't actually come in. So she had the option. But she had the option. It was close enough. She could, yeah, exactly. So it was being able to make it so that key members of family could come. Yeah. So, yeah, you have to think a little bit about other people because, like I say, if you're going, I would be devastated if my nan didn't make it.

And then you choose the other side of the world. Yeah, you kind of make, you're right for yourself. You're creating that situation. So, yeah, you have to think about people a little bit. But yeah, even to, like, evening guests, a lot of people have day guests and evening guests. I didn't really have evening guests because my mom was like,

are you really going to get people to travel all the way to La Manga just for the evening? Well, no, that's a bit mean, isn't it? So then it makes you crazy. Now everyone's a day guest. Like, now everyone not got to pay for the day rather than the evening. So, yeah. Really, you could have gone, yeah.

I should have. Yeah, because if they want to come, then they can just stay up the night. Oh, they don't drink and they drive home. Yeah, exactly. I could have left it, One thing that was quite handy is I think this was Liam's mum that organised it all

because like the area that we live in to La Manga where I got married is a good like 40, 45 minutes. Yeah, it's a bit of them. So they all knew that, well, we spoke about it and then they arranged a mini bus. So people could have stayed down there. There are a couple of hotels. We just stayed obviously. Some people just stayed locally.

My mum even rented an apartment for three, four days before and a couple of days after so they went down there for a while but yeah there was a minibus that went down to take people and then brought people back up at the end of the night oh that's a good idea but again it was an idea it's a great idea and then i was like this is your responsibility yeah yeah i can't take on any more extra thing if you want to sort it because i'm not traveling on it so if you want to sort it here's a list of guests that are all in this area that would benefit from that go ahead i'm leaving you to organize it all and you can organize paying for it i think that was my mom

And everyone shipped in like a tenor. It would have been cheaper than a taxi. But I don't know if your mom was saying, but I can even feel my mom overthinking stuff. Like, right. So if they're coming over, we've got these places that they could stay. Yeah.

And they could stay here. And then we've got over your way. We've got that and this and that. I'm like, whoa. To be honest. They can look for some. Yeah, no. To be honest,

my family are useless with stuff like that. So my mom actually had to book everyone's flights, book everyone's hotel. Sort out. Yeah, she had to do loads of that for housegued. That'll give me um if my mom asked to do stuff like that. Yeah, and that is like going on other family bloody holidays everywhere. Yeah, why can't you organise, yeah, and with the internet now, like you say, if you're...

Well, I've lived it 23 years. Yeah. So the area is quite easy to find. I haven't moved far. Exactly. You know, in that respect, you know. All you have to do is give someone a location of the wedding and it's very easy. Like, I, you know, I've been invited to weddings in places, you know, Leeds.

I've never been to Leeds before. No. You know. It was all right, won't we? Yeah, exactly, Boston. I'd never been to Boston before. So, you know. I was thinking, what, what? Oh, yeah.

Exactly, but two of the weddings that we went to this in the last six months. And we picked her out. We survived. Exactly. We knew where we was. We got around. They told us to wear it one. Yeah, we hired a car.

Yeah, exactly, because we knew that there was far to travel. And did we pester the bride with all of that? No. Give us the location. We know where to be, when to be there. And we just googled it. Obviously, we're younger. It's a bit different for our nans to figure stuff like that out.

Oh, yeah, obviously. But that's one person. Like, your grandparents, that's fine if your mum was just thought of them. Yeah, exactly, as I really are. But no, my mum had to do, she stressed a lot that. Yeah, that's a lot. That makes the piece. Especially my side don't do that to my mum.

Hellenia. Oh, mum, don't do it. Right. My mum probably enjoys doing stuff like that. She'll say she's, oh, but she actually really. Yeah, yeah, secretly enjoys it. Yeah, I think, like I say, my mum probably did to the point of just, if she didn't do it, she knew that there would have been problems.

So she probably would have. It's easier for her to do that. It's easy to know where you are what you're doing. She knows what's coming. But then at the same time, you're all well old enough to sort yourself out. There was no need to do that and put it all on my mum to sort out. Oh, yeah. I'm not going to make it like a puzzle where I am.

It's not like a, I'm not in the middle of nowhere, but I'll give you an idea. Yeah. But, you know, it is that as well. Here's the venue. Here's a couple ideas for hotel. Which is what we got on all of ours to be fair. Fly into this airport. Yeah.

Easy. Exactly. Here's a couple of transfers if you need it, car hires, like, say you can book your own holiday. It's the same aspect. Yeah. Well, let's see what I've got to come. Yeah, I've still got a lot more coming up. Yeah, you've hardly made any decisions yet, so you've got a lot of decisions.

I've made decisions for everyone to have an opinion on, so. That's what I mean. You haven't even started yet. Well, I had one. You've got one from your mum straight away, no? Well, that's good, though, because you've made that decision. then you're not changing. Definitely.

That is one thing. No, no, no, no. If that's one piece of advice that I can give to you, it's make the decisions that are best for you, regardless of traditions, regardless of any family members, that goes for parents as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Make the decisions that are best for you guys. And I do like some of their opinions or advice because it's nice to hear. Yeah. You know, and some of it I'll take on board, and some of it I won't. Yeah. And if I don't, you don't get offended by it.

Because it's not, it's my day and it's just quite a one. So, yeah. And the world's very different to when our parents got married. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you say, when you have your wedding renewal? Because you are having a wedding renewal. Telling you now.

I feel a bit weird about that. Why? I love the idea of it, but then I feel a bit cheesy. Do you? I don't know. Well, saying that, I think we said that about renewal and then you just had a party instead, didn't you? Yeah. Was it your 10 year?

What year was it? No. We'd been together 15 years and it was my birthday. Birthday, was it? Yeah. Yeah, that would have been COVID. I think it was that because I kept going renewal and renew it. And then you came out with having like a...

We just did like a night out. That, what, for the 2000s thing? 2000s, Jess said. Yeah. No, that was, yeah, again, because I love the idea of celebrating, but the actual then inviting everyone to something for me, like, say it's hard. But then again, a renewal wouldn't have to be... We could go on holiday for a week and go, look, guys,

we're going on holiday to celebrate us being to be in. for the 20 years or whatever. Yeah. But, you know what I mean? And, you know, you come in with us? Yeah. It could be that, didn't it. It didn't have to be a wedding, walking down and sang your boughs again.

Yeah. I love the idea of that. Whether I actually do a whole ceremony thing, that I'm not sure about. Well, I'll never get that because I'm already 20 years into my relationship. So I'll never get that. I'll be like 90 years. You'll have to celebrate then, so you'll have to do a renewal. Yeah.

With your zoomer frames. So funny. I won't get that oxygen tanks. I won't get that such. Shall I turn it off? Turn up your hearing, what did you say, love? I definitely won't get that option.

I've done it completely other way around, haven't I? Well, next year will be our 10-year wedding anniversary, but next year you're getting married. And it's like 20 years together. So that would have been the first milestone own for us because it's 20 years and 10 years but that's the year that you'll get married so there's no real need to

do anything. We've got loads of celebration it's fine. So maybe we'll do... Well I think then after me I think again I think that in terms of I think everyone's married in our close group most people have children or

want to start having children say you know, in that thing. So in terms of us getting together for that, definitely not happening, because that's done or it will be done. So we will just start having actual just adult holidays. Yeah. With kids and without kids, you know?

Definitely both. Yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely both. Yeah, some with some of them. But I just feel like at the moment, we only do stuff because it's a empire, it's a wedding or it's a milestone. Yeah.

We don't just do it because let's, well, we did it once with Madrid, but you know, like we don't go, let's go away. Very rarely. Yeah, like I say, we want to get better at that, more of the local things. But yeah, I think we've never all been a way away. For just a holiday. For a holiday. It's because, so I'm saying, so there's always one person out of our group who has, doesn't, well, two people.

Because obviously two people are getting around, but more thinking about the bride here. The bride, yeah. Is, you know, it's got a lot on them for that time, you know. It's never just all of us away relaxing, because we're there relaxing. But that was your original idea. It was. It was. But in theory, I wouldn't have been relaxing.

Exactly. The theory didn't work out. We like the idea of that. So we'll just do that without the pressure of a wedding. Exactly. Then that's exactly what I said, wasn't it? I will definitely do that holiday. But it doesn't have to be for my wedding.

Yeah. You know? I like the idea of that. I mean, I actually like the idea of like putting my dress on and everyone getting dressed up and actually having a proper do. Yeah. But then whether I actually do that or not, I'm not too sure. If you do, then we could all come in our dresses too.

Wow. Do you know what I said this years ago? I've still got my bridesma dress Well I said years ago that Like every now and then We should just host something That's like bring your dress Yeah

Whether it's a bridesmaid dress Whether it's a wedding dress And just host like a girl's night Where you just get to put a dress That you only ever have worn once That you want to wear again Like a prom night And things like that

I never got a prom night You got prom night didn't you Yeah I never got prom night Yeah And I had my prom dress I think I'll put it on my memory box now because I wore it a couple times

because mine was short like simple like a silk kind of thing whereas I know a lot of people is a big pop dresser so I actually did wear mine a couple of times but yeah

you get to school before that yeah I did did you keep your wedding dress then have you still got your wedding dress I've still got my wedding dress yeah because obviously some people sell it some people keep it some people keep for their chill

her straight up for sale the week after she got married done I've kept mine and I don't have any daughters so I can't Can't pass it on. No. But I've still got it. Yeah. I mean, you could have a daughter in law as well. Could have a daughter in law, you know, as an option. I don't plan to have more children.

No, no, no, no. You never know. Well, that was clearly answered earlier, wasn't it? Well, exactly. And obviously, Lexi come along as a surprise as she was a daughter. Yes, exactly. So, don't speak too soon. So, no, yeah, I've kept mine. I didn't, mine was reasonable. I think my mom actually bought my wedding dress. Okay. And I got it. at the same place that we went to and it was discounted so I think mine was about 800 quid

which is a lot for a dress it's a lot but actually realising the prices that's really good yeah well I know brides that have paid multiple friends of ours that have paid upwards of two grand for a dress so yeah

I thought 800 was more than reasonable for and he said one this is what I'm a bit about because you know what I'm like anyway and I'm thinking yeah you know really yeah really you know I think that was kind of my threshold

I don't think I could have gone more than that. Yeah. Having the money, yeah, but I wouldn't want to spend that. Exactly, exactly that. Exactly that. I think I'm a bit like that. I can't just find that. Probably will do it,

but at the same time, I'll be thinking how much I can set it for after. Yeah. But no, I think, no. Well, again, I don't have to, but I would, I think. Like, the truth is, again, as tradition, a lot of brides wear their mom's wedding dress. Well, I didn't know my mom's dress was borrowed. Oh, really?

Her dress was from her friend. She went to the shop, you know, the bridal shop, things like that. Because that's what she was shocked at this bridal shop, because it is on another level, isn't it? Yeah. She was expecting, you know, more of a normal high street bridal shop, which majority of them are. Yeah.

And she went to a bride, I think she tried some dresses on, I think really stuck with her. And then I think her friend said, well, I've got mine. Do you want to try it on? It fit her. And I think she wore that. I was like wow I never knew that Yeah

And it's weird because there's a bride You think you'd won your own Yeah And especially if you're in the same friendship group As the bride Yeah Seen the dress But then like

I was brides made for a friend of mine My childhood friend And I offered her to wear My earrings that I wore to my wedding for hers Yeah Because it's almost like I had good luck in it We're eight years married now

Like here's a bit of good luck I can share it with you whether that's something that you wear or, you know, something that you do. And I don't think, yeah. I think personally. Whether it's a friend or a daughter or whoever ends up being. Well, again, I've never thought about these things. And the other day I went, as that my mom, and she asked me if I had anything of my, what's it,

borrowed, something, borrowed, something blue, something old, something new. Right. So she asked me that and I was like, no, come on. Don't even know where I'm getting married. I'm like, come on. It's the last time I'm getting married. I really know. Again, it's quite an old tradition.

It is, but obviously, I'm really, no. I haven't got any of that, not at all. So she opened, well, she gave me a box, and it had my nann's engagement ring in it. So I haven't got it. I tried it on and very weirdly, because I personally think I've got quite chunky fingers, you know. You've got big knuckles.

I think so, yeah? And my nann never did. Well, my mom and my nand don't. They have quite feminine, you know, fingers. Child fingers. If you really look at fingers, there's a difference. And so I never thought any of my mum's, all my nans would ever fit me because they're Mert Petit, you know.

And, yeah, so this engagement on my nans actually fits me on my wedding finger. Oh, wow. Yeah. So obviously I'd wear it on this one. Yeah. For you to just wear that day as something like, on that day of something borrowed and old, yeah.

And I was just, yeah, it was just really nice because I didn't, I wasn't thinking about it, obviously. And I don't think, and my nan. I didn't think, exactly. I didn't even think. think of anything to do with... I think mine was last minute

to be honest. I think it was again something maybe I'd add the question a few times and maybe last minute leading up to it I was like oh have I got stuff

and someone got me a thing and that had a bit of blue on it so I was like right I got blue I borrowed my mum's bracelet new is pretty much everything else so you could pick something

something old I don't know if I had something old whether the bracelet is borrowed and old don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is it, isn't it? So, so again, I didn't think of it. But when it comes to me, like you with your friend with the earrings, I just feel like you think, oh, that's, I like, yeah. It brings more sentimental things into it. And I think that's what's good with some traditions. Yeah. Some, like I say, outdated, don't really agree with. It doesn't

work for me. But some traditions are nice because it gets you thinking of those things. And I think the more sentimental things you can bring into a wedding, I think that's very rememberable. One thing for me, which I feel, I don't know, tradition you want to call it, whatever, is my dad giving me away. Yeah. That's one thing for me.

I actually said to me, if my dad doesn't give me away, we won't be getting married. There's no point. Honestly, that was it. We won't be, you know? Yeah. So that's something I hadn't really thought of.

No, but it's just like, oh, that's a big thing for me. But in the moment, like, my dad saw me and then walking down the aisle like that ended up for you one of my favourite memories and it wasn't something I'd over thought of or thought would be a big thing and like a father-daughter dance yeah I really liked that I did that and again something that I didn't think of was an option yeah a lot of my friends aren't doing that anymore oh really so that's one thing I've loved you I don't know if my dad will because

he's like he's like quite a panica with things like this you know I've even said you don't know you don't because even a friend of mine who I was surprised didn't because she's a proper daddy's girl didn't plan to and I think last minute there and then they put a song on and she grabbed her and they didn't even nicer in a way that it was that natural to happen

but yeah that is the one thing I think for me means a lot was is that with my dad giving me away and I think my mum just having that experience with me try and dresses on you know so we have that and with my daughter too

you know I just think that was nice and if my nan was here my mum would be there obviously but fortunately she isn't so at least you'll have her ring yeah yeah so yeah I've I've had a nice weekend really and it's definitely kicked me at the bum to start actually

sorting stuff out because I know all the girls are a bit like so are we having a hen or are we not having a and I get it because even as if you know if it was used of like what's going on you know we have a life too to plan yeah and like you say you're not making

it a thing where there's a lot of decisions to make but I think once you get your venue you know rough dates like there isn't much else because you're not making it a thing with all these additional things like not doing bridesmaids you're not doing vows there's not there's quite a lot of decisions you've cut out

having to make with some sort of yeah I think that's nice and yeah definitely do your legal stuff way before well I've are so you know watch this space I could I could be married by the next time you could be a wife soon I could be you never know I'm not going to tell you

the date I've asked one. So we will see. Yeah. Yeah. Never know. Oh, amazing. It was just how that experience ended up really literally making me think like, okay, let's, yeah. I think we might do it this way now. Yeah, well, like I say, it's go with the flow. Our legal bit was Gibraltar. Just, you know, parents and siblings, went down, went in, got married within 20 minutes,

is very quick and straightforward in the little office that they did it in. I just had a jumpsuit on we didn't exchange rings and then we went to pizza buffet and to Morrisons. That is like yes

you've got to hit Morrison's in Gibral I'm sorry but that was like mine and Mitch's highlight of our little visit there sad I know but but no it was that's why we're getting married great experience

because we got both sides of the family together we ended up getting really drunk and celebrating the night before that we were actually hung over I had my head out the window on the way to the office and then went and had pizza buffet

That is it. It's about... Exactly. Exactly that. But I know what I won't be having I won't have any eggs from bridesmaids because I haven't got them obviously. And Lex is going to be obviously the biggest diva that she just agree with any of her out. I can see that. But yeah, I mean, we'll see when it comes to the hen, won't we? Because you'll all be telling me. So watch the space. You never know. Yeah. Might be just me and and you. My girls are good. My girls are good. Yeah, yeah. You can trust us. We'll be there for you. So yeah, hopefully you've enjoyed that ended up being quite a wedding episode. It was actually, I don't think you said about anything else, did they?

No. So it's, yeah, lots of different things going on, lots of different experiences, like I say. I think being our age, you get to see and learn from everybody else. I wonder if anyone's actually cancelled a wedding because of that feeling? You know, like, no, no, this is too much, we're not doing this. Or there's been arguments because of planning of a wedding that actually got cancelled. Anyone? Yeah.

Anyone? I reckon there's definitely people that have cancelled a big. wedding and gone off and done it by a loaf or whatever it's called or just gone off and done it. I want to hear that. But whether it's actually led the bride and groom to break up over it, that would be interesting. Because everyone we knows could just come with, obviously everything's

normal, got married, everyone's fine. They've had stress and arguments but they've continued with what they've planned. That's what I mean. I've just like to marry. No one's ever said to us oh by the way, this could be by the way, you know the... You've done now, this is you. The invite I give you, we're not going to do it. Scrap it.

We've done it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Have you? Looking up, I wouldn't know. No, that's interesting. Yeah. Help Charlotte out, guys. She needs it.

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Well, yeah. Well, countdown's on. Most people take a year to plan. I know. You're getting very close. I know. I know. So, yeah.

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