The Rising’s Growing Together Podcast - The Truth About Parenting in Public (During Summer Break!) Ep.21

Episode Date: June 21, 2025

The truth about parenting in public? It’s messy, unpredictable, and full of judgment especially during summer break. In this episode of Growing Together, Billie and Charlotte open up about what it's really like to raise kids in public-facing moments, from chaotic restaurant trips to emotional school milestones.

Welcome back. Welcome back. Why do I always? Hi. Hello. How? Bye. Hello.

Goodbye, kiss. Hey. Welcome back, everyone. Welcome back to another week. Yeah, happy Friday. We're actually recording on a Friday. I know. I know.

We are. We don't want to do Fridays or Thursdays, don't we? Yeah, we're in probably summer vibe. Just to give Liam a bit of extra time to edit. But no, we're, it's Friday. School's finished. Schools out. I know, yeah.

Summer. We're matching. habits again, which we didn't mean to do. Yeah, let's clear off a room ever. Because my sister-in-nor thinks that we plan our outfits. Which we don't. I don't even plan my own outfits for anything. So there's definitely really...

I'm going away on Sunday. Neither of us have a clue what we're wearing and lots of the other girls already planned. We don't plan our outfits. But telepathically... How? How have we done this? Quite a few times. We both wore green or we both wore like...

Just something like you say, a match... T-shirt. And yeah, today, I don't... think you could get much more matching apart from colour situation. No, no. I was because obviously I'm not a colour person. I was like, how did we've done that? How did we've done that? Brandon and Nike, a bit of Adidas. I know. Or Adidas. Do you say Adidas or Adidas?

I say Adidas. Oh God. And I say Nike. Yeah, Nike. Oh, I thought you said Nike. No. Oh, okay. No, I don't say Nike and... You don't know what you say. No, I do you. I say Nike and Adidas. That's what I said. Oh, no, I say Adidas. Is it a South thing, or am I just pronouncing it completely right? I don't remember I'm like, I know I'm from the Midlands, but I'm very, very southern talking as well.

So, although someone said I sounded posh on here the other day, and I was like, posh. I suppose you do because your accent's quite neutral and I think, I think the southern accent obviously sounds posher, don't it? Yeah, I suppose. You're not like grainy, I'm like, yeah, no, I'm not like that. I was going to say, jump in your jaw and char. That's cockney. Really? That's really. Yeah, we're not. No, I wouldn't have a clue what you're telling it. But no, I feel like my voice could be sometimes a bit posh, but I think it's just the southern accent.

Yeah, but that's what I mean. I don't know. I just don't know. I'd say Adidas. I think my lot of home say the same. They say Adidas? Maybe I'm saying it wrong. No, we'll have to. What do you say? Adidas. What is, what is this brand? Well, maybe I'm the only one. I'm just trying to think if I know anyone. else that says it like that. They can't tell us because they can't type. They're going to have a voice no as if you know as the guy because I really want to know.

Yeah, that's true. They can't type. Send us a voice note. Clear up the debate. Adidas or Adidas or Adi down. There you go. Or Nike. A lot of people do say Nike, you know. Really? Yeah. From what I've heard. Nike. I don't think that sounds right. I've heard people say it. But then I say Acropolis as well. You do say Acropolus? It's open. It's open. Yeah. Oh, God. It is summer. It's summer. Parks are open. Yes. This is it. So I have started. Yeah, so we went out for dinner last night And while we're on the subject of going out for dinner with kids We haven't actually been out for dinner very much

We used to go out two, three nights a week Pre-Kids and even with Kaysen We always took him to dinner He was always happy to just sit in the high chair, be there He was not a fusser, we continued to do that Yeah, and it was nice last night Because like you say, you celebrate an end of A year, you know what I mean, Sam of Skirt and they all passed

And I haven't really been out for dinner much with Hayden because he's not the same temperament as Kaysen. He doesn't like sitting in the high chair and being still and being quiet. But anyway, I doesn't know what you want. And he's at that age where he likes to throw things, which doesn't make it easier. So we haven't really took him out very much. But in the last week, we've probably been out to dinner three times because my mum and dad moved back to England.

So we went out for dinner with them. Then we went for an Indian, just us, and then we went out for dinner with you guys like tonight. So when we went out for dinner, we went out for dinner. dinner with with no one when it was just us I went to the Indian

there was like inside then they got like a conservatory so it's separate but it's all glassed in loads of tables inside loads of tables there's probably about

three tables in the entire thing and the conservatory was quite long so we went like as far back as you can so we're like

out of the way so this couple for a reason well with the kids with the kids and it's easy and I thought

with the pram and everything we'll just go in the corner so that we're we're not blocking the way because it's quite narrow

Yeah, because you have to potentially think about where, yeah. Yeah, with a mission, isn't it? Yeah, exactly, in the high chair and all of that. Yeah. So this couple turned up, maybe as we were having our starters, so we had like 15, 20 minutes where it was practically just us

and one person sat by themselves completely on the other side. And they come in and sat like the table opposite us, which annoys me anyway. When there's so much space, why sit next to people like even if I didn't have the kids with me don't sit on the table right next to me like why all of the restaurant why do people do that I don't know I would never do that I would go the opposite personally but then that's have a few tables in between spread out a little bit so anyway I thought that was a bit annoying and more so we've got the kids with us Hayden shouting screaming throwing like we're

trying to keep them amused so you're feeling kind of a little bit conscious of noise but then at the same time like it's I've not gone out for dinner late in the evening where it's like more adulty it's six o'clock so I feel like that's a little bit of an unwritten rule of you know that's when families can go yeah barely mind it's the age of your children by the way yeah exactly the age of your children is what one one year old sat in a high chair you can clearly see when you walk in that there's a little child there and then casein had his back to them and obviously casein's got his iPad we let him take a iPad for dinner and I normally tell him to like wait and you know we normally talk have starters and then i let him pay it a little bit

later but i'm fine with him doing that because in my eyes to make kids sit through a long dinner i mean it's not super long but it's good an hour or hour and a bit i i don't know it's just not a kid thing is it so i feel like i'm more than happy for him to take toys with him have his iPad um i don't feel like i should make him sit and talk to us for the entire time so that's that's my uh opinion anyway So yeah, they sat next to us And then Maybe within 10 minutes, 15 minutes They didn't say anything

I didn't clocked them looking at us They didn't do anything But Liam did turn around Halfway through the Mill And was like, sorry for the noise Like joking like laughing And I think they might have smiled But then I was like, hmm

How did you feel about that comment? I get it But then at the same time I'm like Why are we apologising for When you know, they're not They're not screaming, tantruming, arguing, shouting. Like, he's just making noises. Sometimes I think it's a British thing.

We're over-polite. Yeah, and we do apologise a lot. Working with so many different nationalities, actually, and cultures and whatever else. I mean, we are very over-polite in that sense. Yeah. But I don't, from how you've just said that, do you know what? Because you could say that, like that, when, in actual fact,

I'm not saying he was, but in actual fact, it's like a child who's really, not uncontrollable, but do you get what I mean of a point where right, do you stay them here? Do you just take them outside for a minute? Just sort the situation out. At the same time, it's no one's full. That's a child. Do you know what I mean?

There's no, nothing wrong. But I don't think, I don't know, I get what you're saying, because if it was for Mitch for it was sort of, whatever, in the situation, it was again, more of a polite thing. And you, in the way, you're that conscious of, not overconscious, but conscious that they are children being allowed or a baby, a baby, being loud, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's a huge difference as well. And it was more, I think it's more of a polite thing. Yeah. If someone was giving you dirty looks, because I've heard of it on planes. That's true. And things like that too. I would have got the amp. That's different.

Then don't apologize when they're being rude when, like, what am I supposed to do? Just never leave the house with children. Yeah, exactly. You were a child once. Yeah, exactly. You probably had children. And that just being children, unless it's a child that, again, is this a child, So babies are different.

I think babies are different. You can't really control babies, can you? I think at a certain age, children, well, should listen and be more, I say controllable. That sounds really hell of the word. But you get what I mean. Respectable. I don't know if, I don't take devices as in iPads and that to, I never have. It's just the thing I've never really done them.

I've never really had them. I would have, again, I would have took, mine are a bit older too. So I would have took like coloring stuff and stuff like that. Do you know what I mean? But as time goes on. on, I do find myself, like you say, at a certain point, you know, whether after it's we've eaten or had a chat or whatever, in giving Lexi, this is the thing of the age thing, isn't it?

My phone maybe to watch something or do something or do me dance or whatever she does on them. Do you know what I mean? That's sort of thing. But that's just, I think, how we've been. There was no reason for it. I just think we've never done it. Even on like a plane, really. Kids didn't have devices when Mason was little.

And then by the time, I'm more than come along. Then there's two of them, they can like newsy chat. other a little bit. So I mean, in the change of even just giving that to Lexi, I would never really have done that before. Yeah. You know what I mean? It was such a, such a, that, I suppose that's the change in us.

Yeah. But also, well, last night we played games together, for example. We made them a little, they made their own little game and then we kind of got involved and we made that. Yeah, because I didn't bring it because, like you say, I'm not going to bring his iPad to a dinner with other people. Yeah. I think that is rude and there is a time and a place for it.

But if it's just us and, you know, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're out and he's been at school all day, then that's fine. And that it's not on, I know this isn't the thing, and then it's not on too loud. Yeah. You know, I've been places where I can hear the child thing from the other side of the restaurant. I think that's disrespectful. I'm quite conscious of the noise.

You know that sort of thing. Yeah. And sometimes I don't think he can even hear it. No, it's just like you play it. I don't have it down so quiet. So no, like you say, yesterday I didn't take an iPad. I asked him if you wanted to take any toys. He said he didn't.

So then I was like, fine, because you can obviously play together. But yeah, then we were like, they got a bit restless by the end of the meal, didn't they? And they were trying to, well, they were up dancing because there was a singer, which was nice. Then they started to play tag, which is normally fine, but there was quite a lot of people sat trying to watch and they're trying to play tag in the middle. Yes. I think you need, as a pairing, you should obviously see the situation of right. And kind of all right. They are children having fun in a respectful way of wherever you are sort of thing.

And then there's a thing like that they're going to fun up. But they're just being kids. So as parents, you've got to go right. Yeah. Just stay away. Which is what they did. We let them play for a little bit. And then they were trying to run in between the tables,

obviously to get away from each other, which is part of the game. But then we were like, right, that's a bit too much now coming. So we played like the alphabet game. So like they had to think of something, beginning with A, B, and go through and take turns. And then we spoke about the memory game. Like, I went to the shop and I bought something.

And then the next person has to say what you bought. Apples. And then add something to it. Yeah. Which is like a memory alphabet game. as well um so yeah it was it was nice it was nice to but then talking about devices we were like oh ask the restaurant if they've got a piece of paper

they had no paper because they just about found a pen she had a pen yeah for some reason yeah but they do all of their ordering now on tablets so yeah which i commented i probably couldn't do that now because i when i ever worked in a bar or a restaurant it was just your pen and paper that copied yeah one goes to there one goes to there one goes to there, do you know what one goes to there, depending on where you're working kind of thing. And I was like, I couldn't do it, because all the little notes, all the changes that makes, I couldn't deal with that on a tablet.

I'd make, I couldn't. Yeah, because some people's orders are complicated. Yeah. So it's not just like, order that, order that. Yeah. But then again, that's just the change, isn't it? Yeah. It sounds so old, actually.

But it isn't changed. We have said that we are pen and paper people. Yeah, but as far as apologising, I think, no, in that situation, I think he's just being over polite. Yeah. There was nothing wrong or right about it. No, exactly. Which is why I was unbothered, but then it got me thinking, like, yeah. Yeah, unless you're, imagine you're not, you're so conscious anyway and you have actually

people looking at you or huffing or puffing or, do, do, do, do, do, do. For me, it makes me laugh when they do it on planes, certain people. So I think, what do you expect? Seriously, I'm not comfortable. I don't want to sit here. I'd like to get off. That child just had no clue what's going on. What do you think they feel?

Yeah. Pressure and everything going on. Yeah, I think some adults can be very judgment. Some adults forget, and most of these people have had children. And do you know what I mean? I think they forget, even I have to, we have to remind ourselves sometimes, you know, and we're closer to their age, you know, of what we were like, you know? Because it is, it's silly sometimes.

You think, what do you expect them to do? What do you expect that parent to do? At the same time as well, like, if you can have all your kids set at the table and they don't have devices, they have nothing to play with, and they're happy to talk and eat their meal and nicely, then great. well done you. But that's not all kids. And mine, I'm not saying my, mine could do that for a short amount of time. Yeah.

I could probably do that for a short amount of time. Do you know what I mean? Because it's just how we are. I'm terrible sitting here and I'm constantly like this and this. Do you know what I mean? So I mean, and like I say, all kids are different. There's not really, I mean, yeah, some parents will let their kids go wild and not intervene. Yeah.

Well, the difference of the age, so even with Morgan last night, I was like Morgan, you can't do whatever, certain things they, we're doing, which is, sounds a bit unfair, but it's just getting to understand that you're older now, you know, you can't really get away with climbing on the side because you're a big boy, you know, so it's that as well. And like you said, there is some parents or whatever who don't either acknowledge or care, I suppose. And I don't, and I think, yeah, there's kids that, you know, they, kids tantrum, you know, like you say, everyone's different. There's sometimes are going to be times when kids are loud, kids are noisy, they're not happy, they're winging,

they're whatever. And that's fine, like you say. And if the parents are there trying to tell and deal with it, absolutely fine. But yeah, if your kids going wild and you're just sat back drinking and, you know, leaving them to it and they're smashing things and climbing on things and that's different. But yeah, I think some adults can be really judgmental and I think there's nothing worse than when you're trying to sort the situation and you can just feel. feel and I do it sometimes I look over not to judge but like to sympathise like oh yeah I know

what that feels like but you know I do catch myself looking as well and even that might make them think that I'm judging and I'm not but yeah sometimes you really want to say something you can't think of the right thing to say or any joke or anything I've seen quite a few things on planes where people are like thanks so much to whoever that lady was because she saved me like I'm travelling by myself and you know she her holding the baby and she soved it for me while I was dealing with the other one. Rather than be a judgmental pitch, where you wanted to get asked to help.

Did I really? Yeah, yeah, exactly. I actually, it came up, I think it was yesterday I was scrolling and saw a video of a couple at a pub. You couldn't quite see who was in the video, but there was a couple people sat on stalls right at the bar. Then someone was trying to film this woman who was probably in her 40s, maybe pushing 50.

and she'd come up to these people and obviously I couldn't see how old they were but they clearly had kids with them I think it was a baby and the woman was going off on them why you hear you're disgusting you shouldn't be here with your baby that poor baby you should be taking that baby

literally was going off to the point that a woman half this other woman's size from the bar come over and was like you need to back off like telling them like their terrible parents for taking their kid to the pub What, in the day for like a drink? You couldn't see. It doesn't matter to day, night, whatever.

Obviously, the pubs in England don't open later than 10 o'clock anyway. Obviously, if you're there at midnight and you're drunk, that's a different situation. Well, God knows what they would say about my parents, because back in the day, we lived in the pub and used to smoke in the pub and everything. Just push the chairs together, like across the chairs. Next to her feet, under the table. Yeah. My mum, I'm really tired of, go and get chairs together.

Yeah, sleep. I was literally, that was it. That was literally it. I feel like the social clubs. Yeah. Nothing, I'm fine. even that with the smoking in it my mum or dad didn't smoke

I used to come home my hair smell of it I had clothes were stunk of it I remember that from when we used to go out when we were teenagers how much you'd smell I'm not saying that's a right thing to do but you know what I mean

I've got battered an island when we were kids no I'm not saying it was healthy but I had a great child I love getting the chairs together and just lying there yeah playing with all the other kids

getting carried in the car and then you'd get home and then you'd pretend you was asleep even though obviously you saw of asleep but then you knew you could really get up and walk out. Yeah. Like you'd be carried. Right for your dad to come and carry it.

And then you're making sure that you're inside yet. But, oh. No, I used to love that because my granddad used to gig at like the social clubs and stuff. So we'd go and my granddad would be there. And then we'd all be there. And yeah, like all the family would be there. So they'd all be, you know, drinking and having fun together and all the kids. Yeah.

Because that was a lot of us. Like even without no other kids there, just us lot, there would be probably, you know nearly take hits it was great yeah play paul one round outside yeah yeah that that kind of comment doesn't seem valid in my eyes what no what's your point do you know what I mean why can't they be here yeah you know what I mean why yeah why you here but not even like her past and comment she was yeah up shouting in their face that's what I mean the difference of and each to their own at the end of the day like how dare you have such an opinion on the way other people are parenting.

Like I say, it was extremely, it's putting a child or a baby harm or... If the child's at risk, then fair enough, maybe make a comment that I think, you know, whatever. But even then, yeah, if the child's at risk, then, yeah, maybe step in. But apart from that, if you're putting your own opinions on people, like, back off and... You're a bit easier. Mothers and help the people. But, no, and then I was cleaning all the food off the floor, which I think so, just respectful. Yes. I think as well as a person who's worked as a wait for me, do you know what I mean?

I think that kind of, for me, here in Spain, you know what I'm going to, I say it's more Spanish. I'm going to say that. They're very messy. I feel that when I used to do, when I used to serve Spanish people at the table to maybe other nationalities, it was a Spanish who were very messy. Yeah. Everything everywhere. Everything all over the floor. Just really just messy kind of. eaters we don't know but with a baby obviously that's the only really thing or child but yeah let's go baby um i think as long as you just yeah i i would like last night i think there was like a bit of tamal whatever on the floor and you kind of pick it up and put it on the side or in the tissue that's just like you say respectful yeah if there isn't if it's kind of food that

you're not going to obviously pick up with your fingers sort of thing yeah i think you either just go on i would personally apologize for the mess that's what i would say i just i'm really sorry about the mess yeah and i'm really sorry about the mess yeah and i I would think as a waitress should be used to that sort of a thing as long as it wasn't taking the piss. Do you get what I mean of a thing of, do you get what? I know what babies are like. There's a little bit of food. Then yeah, you've got a sweeping brush.

You've got things to click on because that's what you do at the end of the night. Yeah, don't you? You sweep the floor and, you know, even without babies, people drop things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, if you've made a right mess that's nasty that you wouldn't want, that you don't want to touch, then why would a waitress want to touch it? It's just more of that kind of leaving, you know, like living the table as if like, I don't know it sometimes isn't like that, but feeling

like I ain't got to clean it up. Yeah, it's not for me. Yeah. Would you do that home and chuck all that? Do you know what I mean? Obviously, you would let them chuck all of it on hope at certain ages. But do you know what I mean? To a point, obviously, you wouldn't let him throw food of the woods. I just like to say, pick up as much as I can and then then just put aside and then that's the and I feel I'm so out of that now. So weird. You are well out of it. I am out of it. You know, like to comment and I'm like, I don't even remember what I You know, like it's such a weird thing I can't even picture you of look at kids anyone.

Exactly, just going on last night even just again, just a difference of age for Paul Morgan bless him who just wants to get involved in certain stuff, but maybe because he's just that bit older or he doesn't get away with it. You know what I mean as a child?

Yeah. You know? Yeah, I think he's just being aware of where you are and how they are. But that's why I'd say. But we're definitely in Summer Vibe now. It's school's over. Yeah, that's why we went out to celebrate end of school. Cason decided he wanted to go to this place to have dinner.

It's really good shows, I have to say. It was really nice, yeah. It was a kind of place that even we were just going, me and Mitch were gone on our own, like you say, have a drink, pay game of cards, just listen to that music. Yeah, exactly. They had like acoustic guitar, but it was nice because it was like the perfect volume because it was loud enough to hear, but not too loud that you couldn't talk. Yeah, and that we're shouting.

But it was also really relaxed. in acoustic so it was like perfect like background it was a perfect background music but a lot of the times we're like oh I love this song I love this song it was it was nice he was singing from Beyonce to Mustang Sally Don't be a bitch on ticket to the floor now Yeah exactly

That really made me giggle that one Really really yeah it was it was really good It was a nice way to start off that summer I'm not there yet I have to say I'm not there with Like mentally I know that sounds really stupid but it's, I just, I don't know if it's just, I know his birthday is the same year, same every year, but it kind of, where we've had Morgan's birthday, fell on, so we had graduation, which was obviously quite a big emotional thing for us because, what for me, which didn't, obviously,

but we didn't, I'd never experienced it because Mason didn't get it. Mason didn't have the graduation or the whole thing because it was COVID. So it was the case of what's turning up. Yeah. I didn't think Mason came with me, actually, going to the school. to this clear screen, taking the scroll and his certificates and whatever and leaving. You know, it was so like, yeah, COVID, literally. So we had Morgan's graduation, which was so emotional.

It was lovely. They did, so they did the music, like all the certain music teachers played certain instruments. I don't know what they were like a trumpet or whatever. Guitar, I don't know. And then some of the students who played like the violin and stuff and whatever, else and then the rest of the students sang some of them started off for solos some some of the girls i think that was all girls yeah and then the rest of the year sixes joined in with the song stand by me oh man the night has come and i was literally like my eyes were streaming and they

all just got involved it was so lovely and something that my obviously my mom and dad commented on and a few of the parents of how it was nice just to see 12 year olds being 12 year old of that just not self-conscious of trying to act or anything even the girls not dressing up as I don't know 16 year old they were just do you know what I mean it was so lovely even the connection with the teachers of there's so much more touchy feeling here of they'll give them a cuddle and a kiss and just all of that it was just I like that yeah I do and it you know it was just such a lovely know very emotional so kiss on the head not kissing the lips no no no no but like it's nice that they they're so different in it right now

They're all so worried. Nice to see that. Just of how you, you know, of that, well, I can't think of the word, but, you know, of how they portray themselves of cool, I don't know what you want to say. Yeah, it was just really nice. It was such a nice, I don't know what you call it,

a ceremony, I don't know, but it was amazing. That was lovely. And then the next day, it was the last day of school, which is obviously Morgan's complete last day of school there, and his birthday. So literally, we've had the graduation on the night, getting up in the morning for school, obviously, still got work too,

trying to deal with all that. And a birthday. Had a birthday. So then he finished his school. Then we've got people visiting for his, like Nannies and Gwanda, aren't he? Visiting for his birthday after school. Then we had all his friends come in because we had like a little party,

say party, but, you know, his friends come around for a sleepover. Sleepover. Why did I say sleepover as well? Stupid. No, they were fine. I have to admit. They were absolutely fine. We went to the trampoline park.

They've closed part of the trampoline park, which really annoyed me. So anyway, they were fine. They did that. Got some takeaway food. that they wanted and went in and out of the pool I think I said to you about it it started like one minute's 40,

well it was still 40 degrees but then all of a sudden it starts storming lightning raining and I'm just like oh my God all the kids are in the pool and at first I was like right get out now please they were like why I was like

because it's lightning I didn't think that that was bad it's only because of certain stories you hear like oh I know that very extreme but electric shooting in the rain like a kid on a football pitch and stuff like that

you know like certain stories and I just remember them. You know what I'm like, anyway. Yeah. So I'm like, right, get out because it's lightning. And they're like, no, they're all still playing, jumping and out of the corner. And I was like, I walk back in the house and kind of like this. You know, like, just don't ruin the fun, Charlotte.

Don't ruin fun. And then I said it to Mitch. He was, oh, they're all right. Don't be silly. I was like, babe, it's really dangerous from To be in a pool when it's lightning. And then I was like, am I making this up? Like, am I just being over the top? So I did the whole searching thing of, is it dangerous to be in a swim pool when it's lightning.

And it literally come up. Yes, extreme. and I was like, get him out of the pole. I didn't know that. So I went from like calm, kind of mom. I'm like, come on, get out. And then I was literally like to obviously, I'm not, I'm serious now. Get out of the pole.

Google said so. Get out. I will get dry. Get in the house. Like kind of the whole lot. Oh, I didn't realize that. But yeah, no, that like storm thing just kind of come out of nowhere. Well, I'd put Hayden to bed.

Liam went to put Case into bed. So I was back in the living room by myself while he was waiting for Casey to form of sleep. And I could see it come in. What are you going to say? Sorry, I've never remembered. And then the canopy, we had like a, is it, what's it called? Canopy? Yeah, a gazebo. A gazebo thing.

But like a plastic one with like a sheet over because we've got a fixed one. Yeah. But we had an extra one for Hayden's birthday last week. Yeah, more like a 10 star. More like, yeah. Just have like extra, extra shade in the garden. And I could just see it, like, starting to like lift off the ground out of the corner of my eye. And I was like, oh, crap, it's actually going to take off.

like go flying, like, down the street. So I've ran outside by myself and I'm holding on to, like, the pole. And I'm like, right, I don't even know how to, like, what do I do with this 10? I've got, I've got one arm and I'm like, what do I do? Because both of the things are holding down, aren't you? But I'm like, like, I can't actually, like, reach it. I can't even think how to take this thing apart. So I'm like, just trying to wedge the poles between the chairs of the garden,

trying to like wedge it together. So I'm out there for about 10 minutes, like trying to wedge it together. And then as I'm trying to wedge one side together, the other side's taking off. And then I'm running to the other side and trying to hold that down. It's pissing it down with rain at the same time while the wind's blowing me out. So about 10, 15 minutes, I'm trying to like figure out, I didn't even know how, what am I doing?

How am I going to get this thing to like maintain? Everywhere. Then Liam eventually comes laughing his head off because he was in the bedroom with his phone waiting for case and to fall asleep. And he can see the motion. detectors like of the garden so he thought like oh it's just the wind and then he's looked and he's seen me trying to like hold this kizmo down in the garden but he didn't come on health he didn't get up and leave kaysen to just be awake he's waited to case and fell asleep left me 15 minutes

struggling by myself about to take off in the garden before he comes out to try his to help and then he's like we just need to unhook the material and take the material and i'm like oh yeah that makes sense oh yeah that would make sense but i forgot how we because it's my mum so i only actually put it together for the first time last week so I didn't cross my mind how to dismantle it and I was thinking oh it took me like ages to put it together

I don't want to dismantle it because tomorrow is going to be sunny again so I was thinking of ways to keep it and just pin it down but I couldn't pin it down so yeah we just took the material off and then just left the frame that was like Mitch instead of that worried about all of us and the kids in the pool getting electrician

and he ran to his bikes over the tent or whatever over his canopy that was over his bike Exactly. Don't worry about the keys are getting electrocued, babe. My bike. I know. Don't get wet. Don't get wet. Oh, my God. Don't have the sun touch it. Do you and me.

My God, come on. And then back to being sunny again. Yeah. And now it's, that's what I mean. It's summer. I don't know if you can explain it unless you're here in that time. Because it is, I take a bit to just change into, you know, obviously, well, for me, I've, but not today. But usually you've got to get up and go to work, whereas they haven't got to get up.

You know, that sort of thing. thing, that's a bit of a change in the house because everyone's a lot more chilled. Late night, that's the summer. It just literally turns into later nights because that's just how it is. Nothing happens too late because it's hot. You don't even want to eat dinner till late.

Everything like that is, isn't it? It's all that change. We don't tend to shift too much out of routine in terms of what time it goes to bed. Normally it's within an hour later than normal. But I think I said this before, some people like, it's just, you know, super, super late. Yeah.

Then saying that, Lexi was over for a sleep over last night. Yeah, she's needed a first sleep. So, a first sleep over at last. She did admit me. It was first sleep. She said when I walked. No.

And obviously we were at the pub till I think we got home about half eight. Yeah. Which isn't too late. By the time I put the baby down to sleep at about nine o'clock and they were still buzzing. Yeah, they all want their, because they're having a sleeper. Yeah. So then they, in that time, they played on the trampoline. They come back in.

They played on the PlayStation. Then they played with their toys. And then I was like, right, okay, it's getting near 10 o'clock. Let's put a film on and start chilling. and the first half of the film they were in and out and in and out like, can I have some Chris? Can I have a drink?

Yeah, still not really set. Yeah, like, I'm like, put the toys down. Need to chill now. Yeah. And then it got to like 11 and there was still quite a bit of the film left. So I was like, right, I'll turn it off now. Yeah, I'm tired. Exactly, but that's how I get.

I think I've got to get up. It was only because Liam, I would probably would have done it earlier because Liam went to football training last night. Yeah, you kind of said yes before you realised. Yeah, to be fair, by the time we got back, Hayden went straight to sleep. Leon then went out and then them to just a huge of the house, which was fine. And then, but Liam was at football training. So he, I stayed for a drink.

So he got back late anyway. So I was staying up until he got back anyway. So I let them stay a bit. But yeah, I turned the film off and then had them talking only for literally about 10 minutes and then silence. But they were making me laugh. I put the film on. They watched the film. film that Kaysen's play is tomorrow.

So Lexi got to see the movie before the show tomorrow. And there's a bit where one of them says, oh, they've had a colonoscopy. And obviously, I must have told Kaysen what one is. But as I think I've given drinks, and as I've walked out the hallway, it said it in the movie. And Kaysen's like, Lexi, do you know what a kodoskip is?

He went, no, he went, it's when they shove a camera up your bum. I was like, I didn't expect him to remember or even have a brutal description of that. You learn why he was at Bill's Lexi? So that made me laugh. And then Kaysen's got like a couple teddy's and stuff in his bed and there was a few underneath. So they were sharing out who has what so that Lexi had some as well.

And so he gave her like his captain one. And then he went and you can have the love hot one because I love you. Oh, bless him. He is sweet, isn't he? Yeah. He is a little cute. They get to like listening to him. They're like, oh, like he bumped him.

her leg, oh, are you okay? Yeah, I'm okay. That didn't hurt. It's like, oh, really, they're tearing and cute together, right? And their ages, that's what I mean. So when they're together on their own, they get on so well. And then you throw their ages in, and you can see that change of kind of, Lexi goes towards the kind of older thing. And then Casey would go. Or the babies. Yeah, yeah, that or that. And then the younger thing. And then when they're on their own again, they just get, it's such a strange kind of dynamic, isn't it? Yeah, they do really well. Good, dynamic, obviously. Yeah. They, they.

they get on really well because Lexi's super chilled. Yeah. She's super easygoing. And Kaysen is to a degree, but then he has his moment. So obviously they just really work well together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a cute. Yeah, it's so nice.

Yeah, their little sayings and stuff made me laugh. But yeah, his first sleepover. I just remember how excited I was for sleepovers. Yeah. My house is quite, well, I did ask Kaysen, didn't I? Yeah. And he's like, no, it's two tents. Yeah.

My house is too intense. It's too intense. I don't want to sleep over it. It's too intense. It's too intense in there and I was out, yeah. You're probably right. That's just his new word. He's saying a lot.

I don't think he actually means it's intense. No, no, my house. He sleeps to my mum's, but he's, I don't know. I don't think he'd sleep anywhere else. No, I think he's a bit funny with that. So rather than just said, I don't want to. No, the house is too intense. I know.

To be fair, it's quite right about it, though. He's quite tense. There was everything going on in my house all the time. But as well that, Morgan would prefer to stay at home. Yeah. And he'd rather have his friends over, do you know what I mean? Whereas Lexi is out. She's out every weekend.

Yeah, every, she's happily. The only thing we stay at home is to be fair to her cousin because they literally, as soon as they usually a Thursday or Friday hits, well, obviously, someone else is completely different. It's going to be every day. They literally are just like this, do you know what I mean? So the only reason Lexi stays at home is so her cousin can actively stay out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not always her stay.

She'd just stay out all the tight. But she even said there, didn't she? I'm not going to miss you. No, yeah. She doesn't. She doesn't. Well, Kate's not like that in my mom's. He never misses us.

Which is just made me laugh. Yeah. Yeah. It is cute. I'm glad that she did it. But then I thought they'd maybe sleep in a little bit since they went to bed at 11. What time did they get out? Well, Hayden was up at 5.45.

And I was like, you're not getting up. So I made him a bottle. And I was like just stroking him like, go back to sleep. Go back to sleep. Finally went to sleep probably just before seven. And then they woke up at seven. That's early, isn't it? Yeah.

Saying that I was up early today. It was really annoying. I know you missed me at half eight. I was up at seven. I didn't want to even message that early to you because I thought because Lexi would usually lay in if she's up late. Do you know what I mean? At least, she'd usually make up like nine at that time.

See, Kate's him probably, he's up normally seven, half seven. But yeah, if it was like 11 at my mum's, he would normally then sleep into it at least at half eight. Unless it was, because it is sleep over and the excitement. They've obviously heard each other and worked straight out. It's just the movement and realised it. They didn't even wake me up there. They got up and they walked straight into the living one together.

but it was only because I was barely asleep because I was trying to get him back to sleep Hayden had just gone back to sleep and then I saw them get up because I saw the light in the living room so I was like, oh, I was like, yeah so I was thinking like, oh, he went back to sleep because I was thinking, oh, just one more hour.

Yeah, just one more hour and I'd be happy. Yeah, no, they didn't. Well, I, when you say that, that they didn't come into you, they went straight into the living room. I, um, mine are at, obviously that age now that when they get up, they don't, they just get up and do their own thing.

They do their breakfast. and they just do their own thing. My thing is just don't get on a device when you open your eyes. That's one thing that annoys. I come down's there and it's like nine and Morgan's got his Xbox and I'm like, Morgan! Do you know what I mean?

It's just really, things like that, really annoying. I don't know why. Just see Kays and go straight on his iPad and... Yeah, and it's just like, just give yourself five minutes, just to wake up or something, do you know what I mean? We've never had boundaries around that, but yeah, I get it. I think it's just... I'm very not like that as well.

I think that's part... I know I'm more over the top with it, but anyway. And then what I've found is that I really miss the coming upstairs just to give me a cuddle in the morning because you're awake. You know, that sort of thing. You know, I'm like, hello, you wait. Why haven't you come up to me? Don't know what I mean?

It is. It's that, what I mean? But when you wake up, come and give me a cuddle first. Like, they always used to when they wake up, you know what I mean? And then you can go out to what you want. It's funny because, like, you, it's like, at the moment, I'm just like, you're just sleeping. Just sleep it.

It is. I don't get wrong, I do enjoy my sleeping. Yeah. But then, like, soon it would just be like, just get up and you don't even. And you do miss it. Don't get me wrong. You really do miss that. It's hard. It's reminding yourself because it is tough. It is. Don't get right. Last night, I didn't go to bed until midnight. That's what I mean. Then you're up at court.

But then, yeah, I've had just a bit more than five hours sleep. Yeah, that's, oh, God. Which is, yeah, now I've said it out loud. Now you feel. Now I feel even more. I think that's why I would never get one of them watches that tells me how much I sleep. I used to have it on my phone. I was like, no, it's actually making fun more time. I used to. If I wake up in the night, I used to check the clock to see how much longer I had to go back to sleep. Now I don't even know. I don't know because it makes you.

I do a little bit now with Hayden to check like, right, is it time to actually get up or can I try and get back to sleep and stuff? But yeah, before Hayden, I'd check and I'll be like, oh, yeah, and I'll be out of sleep. But then I'm like, right, just don't know because. Then you start, how, yeah, I make myself more tired because I'm like, oh, I had a shit asleep rather than actually think, how do I feel? I just tell myself, I'm tired.

It is, it's true. To be fair, I feel more tired today because I woke up at seven or just before and I was like, Why am I awake? Yeah. I think it's because it's hotter and just all that. Yeah. And I've tried to make myself, I didn't go back to sleep, but you just kind of light. Maybe because you've got a busy, you've got a busy day today.

Yeah, it's just things on your mind, I think. I don't, and it's actually I don't have an alarm on, obviously, when I'm not working. Yeah. And I think it's that. I think I'm more like, oh, if I don't wake up, wake up for walk. You don't need to get on that early, just chill, you know what I mean. You're not that old. You're not not awake up early enough to do what you need to do.

Yeah. It's not even that early, but it might, see, go 10 years ago, this was, I was, this, that was me. Oh, you know, by half seven, God, that's middle of the day. Yeah. You know, for you, that is now. That was literally for me, where I was like, oh, God, half seven now. Yeah. It's like I even remember the four kids on the weekend, I'd be sleeping into 11.

Yeah. And that was normal. I couldn't even try to sleep into 11 now. Well, I haven't done that. That's what I'm saying. That's for a long time. It's been years since I've done that. And now I feel like I am turning back into a thing.

I think I'm up today because I woke up at seven after. Yeah. And try and go back, just trying to just chill. Like, I don't need to get up. And then I woke up, well, obviously must have drifted off for 10 minutes. I'm working up feeling more tired. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?

And feeling like I'm more like puffy and tired. And in my throat, I don't know if that's just the aircon. But you know, like all that kind of a thing. I'm like, oh, God, I feel like I've been out. You only had an extra 10 minutes. Don't. I'm a bit worried for, I'm a bit worried for going away in two nights. I mean, everything is just so busy.

I know, that's a different thing because we've booked to go out. That we are, because we had, like, say, you've got Morgan birthday, all the kids finish in school. Then my sister's over today. We've got Kaysen's play to tomorrow. We're going away on Sunday. Monday I'll come back. Rick goes again on the Tuesday.

It's like, yeah, this next couple of days specifically. This is always a bit nervous about, like, I've drank since I've had the baby. But, like, I've not gone out drinking. I've literally had a couple beers, couple shandies. Yeah. Maybe a Tinto de Verana. Like, I haven't been drunk.

Yeah, it's just to a point, because you know you're going on. So it's been like two years. Because I don't... Pregnancy and the baby. Well, I say that. We did have a couple last night, but not it was only just... That's what I mean. I've had a couple drinks here and there quite a lot.

Yeah. Like, I've always got shandies in the fridge and normally on a Friday or Thursday even up. You're on a Thursday? Then it's like, happy Friday and he opens it. It gives me a shandies. so like I do drink regularly in a way like you know every week or so I don't tend to drink during the week but yeah maybe on the weekend I'll have one or two but again it's one or two See, I've never been drunk and I haven't even had a hangover and I'm a bit nervous. Yeah, I'm a bit nervous, to be fair.

But I think we're all a bit nervous, don't we? How sad for we now? No. But I'm really looking forward to it. I am. We're going to like a bingo boom thing. Bingo bongo. Yeah, sorry, whenever it is.

I don't know what it's cool. Bingo music thing. That's how, in my head it's going to be. I don't even know what to expect. Well, I don't, to be fair, but in my head, I'm going to. You know a little bit more than me. You know what I'm just going to make it. I think I know, because obviously what someone else has come in with us has

been for. Yeah. So, um, so I just expected it to be, obviously like bingo and then music involved, good music involved with numbers and numbers of certain sayings that you're saying bingo.

That was it kind of thing. But now obviously we've found out that if you win the house of the numbers, you then have to go and do a challenge on the stage, don't you? Or challenge. This again, I could be making this up of actually how I've, I'm kind of got it,

but I still didn't really get it. So you have to do a challenge. I was like, oh, okay. This goes even for. further of just doing bingos, isn't it? Right, so that's trainers. Yeah, that's what I'm not dressing up. We're going to win this shit. I tried a tough one that shouldn't really

have a bra because of the way the top is and I thought oh, what if I can't do my challenge? How stupid am I? Like, what if I can't do the challenge? Because I'm more worried that my food won't stay in properly because I'm don't know what the challenge is going to be. I'm imagining like jumping on a

space hop up. I'm literally making stuff up. Oh my God. Yeah. So, Let you know how that goes. We'll see what that's like. We'll see what that's like. And then obviously we've got... I want to win an air fry. That just shows your age as well.

I know. I'm getting excited for air fries and food of. I don't want a bottle of alcohol. I just want an air frown. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll see how we go. I don't think it's going to take much for me to go tipsy.

I'm definitely more... I don't know if that's the words conscious of that. Don't get me wrong. We used to go to Benedorm on a regular, on a bus. sorry parents didn't actually know we were there just literally going home on a bus going to Benadorm and coming back in the morning as if I stayed at a friend's house

and not actually staying anyway just staying up until the bus runs and leaving away at the house and being in the middle of that environment and that's dangerous alone and I do feel like it's got a little bit more dangerous of the certain story so I'm also quick feeling quite scared

I know that sounds stupid I know we're going to this place, that's one place. Yeah, yeah. But then just thinking of outside of that. I haven't thought about what we're doing after. No, no. Do you know what you mean? That side of it.

I'm like, oh, I used to walk into them plate, like bowling, like I'm bowled around the car, bowling to their places. At 16. Yeah, like, nothing can touch me. That was my own house. Like, yeah, just walking in, like, when we're two drinks. And being really drunk as well. Really, really drunk.

I used, it was like a challenge of how many sticks you could get and how many two for ones you could get, this awful drink. Do you know what I mean? But then, like, you don't really get drunk anymore. No. I actually can't remember the last time we've been out where you've been drunk. No, the last time I remember being very, very, very, very, very bad was in Benadour and my cousin's neighbour.

And that, again, scares me because I remember waking up going, how are we here? It was in the middle of the day still, Bill. Oh, like literally the middle of the day. You didn't even make it to the night time? No, we were, no. Day drinking. Honestly, we only went for luck. We'd met them for lunch just as we got there.

They left the lemon cello on the table. Oh, no. Being excitable as being because of get-we were together, drank everything, started drinking on the, I don't know, what happened. But anyway, I remember waking up, I've never, ever ever done that in my life. Of all the things that we've done when we're younger, I've never woke up and thought, oh my God, how have I got here? I mean, I was in the whole room in my bed.

Like that's scared me so much. Yeah. Like, and I've never ever, I don't like that my life. I don't, you know what I mean? I get drunk, but I don't like. being blackout drunk. I don't like not remembering. I don't like being uncontrollable. Well, obviously, in the moment, though, I thought I was. Does that make sense? Because I think you go through, I think, again, it's the only time I'm having been there, then not being there.

Yeah. Do you know what I mean? And when you're having fun, like you say, you don't go, oh, one more and I'm going to black out. Yeah. Don't know when it's going to happen. Sometimes it's after your fourth drink. Sometimes you can drink seven. Well, now I'm two. I'm two. And then once I go to have to two, literally, once I go to the, Depending on what, I don't really drink. I'm not a big drinker. It's literally like bits and bobs, you know what I mean? But yeah, it is a bit of a weird feeling, isn't it? I don't know if that's...

I'm just more excited to have a lay-in. That did make me laugh. Like, when you said that... Like, not being interrupted in the night and just have a lairier. Yeah, that's literally your main focus of... Yeah, well, but then again, like, you said, your body clock will probably end up. I'll probably wake up, but just not having to get up and chase a baby around.

It's that, isn't it? The minute you open your eyes, having to chase a baby around the room. Yeah, even for me. So even, not that I haven't got a baby to get to, obviously, but even that of just, oh, well, you can just go and lie back down. Yeah, and you can just, like, pull back to sleep and stuff and chill. Not know that the baby's still behind your crying. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

I'm still here. So, no, that would be, that would be. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited for that. But I have had them thoughts, do you know, of, obviously, I don't know if that's our age or, I mean. We're not old, do you know what I mean, but just because we think more. Yes, exactly. Exactly.

Yeah. And I don't want to be hung over to the point that the next day's written off. No, and I don't think, I don't... I want to be drunk. I want to be tipsy, I want to be. We will be. I'm really excited. I'm a good time.

And you know one of the best things about Benadorn is that you can get food at the end of the night? Yes, at any time. Because everywhere around is, crap, that. And there's nothing better than when you're a bit drunk, having a nice kebab or a pizza or chips before going to bed. Yes, that's what I'm. We're going to start on a nice luncheon when you're finishing on a dirty dinner. yeah that's exactly what we did i love that it's true that's what you want though isn't it so and then wake for the morning with absolute destroyed bellies yeah which that's what i'm going to

be asked for sure yeah but i'm excited i'm very excited i've always wanted to do something like that haven't i said it for ages i wanted to do so i'm glad something's here yeah you know what i mean it's close enough to be able to go and do it about flying to somewhere else you know what's like yeah so yeah that's that's exciting and then that'll be it that we're in full some summer mode then. What are you doing with all this school work that they bring home? This is what I'm saying about.

Bags and bags of books and work and... This is what I mean about these two weeks. Worksheets. Yes. Well, now we've hit the finish line kind of thing, but prior two weeks kind of thing. I just feel it's the worst two weeks because you think you're prepared and ready for it every single year

and you're not because... You said this a month ago. I know. I'm not ready. I'm not ready. They never really give you any information until the day before anyway. You know what schools are like here. They're very, well, Spanish, maniana maniana.

We'll let you know what kind of thing. So they kind of leave certain information out for the last minutes. And you've got to work your diary around different shows and da-da-da-da, you know, that kind of meetings and stuff like that. Like today, I've got to go for a meet. We've been at school for the last however long. Why didn't we go then? Why couldn't I come to see that? I know they told me, Case another meeting at school yesterday.

I'm not going to school now. Well, I wasn't going to go. I don't think of the end of year meeting when he finished. So I have to go. Yeah, but that's because you have to get, like, grades and stuff. I get that, yeah. But again, it's all very last, when I've tried to plan. But then, yeah, the books, the books, the colourings, the make stuff, the...

All the artwork. It drives me. I feel bad, binning it. I don't want to keep it. No, so I used to keep, you know what I'm like with key with stuff anyway. So starting with one child, he used to keep everything. Every book, every work book, every colouring, every, anything that had Mason's name on it, it would be kept, right? because, oh, then you can go back and look at all your maths-worthy

you stick. He doesn't give a shit about that book. And when have you ever looked at your stuff? Exactly. It's just a big box of very heavy books that we've got to keep lumping around everywhere because, you know, when you tidy up or, you know, you're tying stuff around or whatever. So as I've gone more on having more children, I've obviously realised it, Charlotte. Can't do that.

Can't keep that many books. Like, that's ridiculous. You don't even need all the books. Why are you even keeping the books? Do you know what I mean? And even then they come home with books that's that much worked on and we've still got that much paper left in the book. Do you know what I mean? So then I don't know. And you feel bad, didn't it?

So no, I won't. I'll rip out the work that they've done. Okay. And then keep that, them books. Do you know what I mean? And depending on how much paper is left, they can use that for when they go back. Do you know what I'm saying?

It's still a whole book. You mean plain paper? Yeah, you know, like the books that they write, just play a plane. Them ones, all right. I think they've got the ones with like the work books. Yeah. So then they've got the books obviously that they,

what's it called? Like a book bank in the school. So them textbooks stay in the school, the ones that they don't write in. Then there's certain ones that the textbooks they write in. With actual like pictures and things. They have to get thrown now. Again, I haven't thrown them yet. I think I've got about five different piles of books around from the kitchen to the dining table to the like the craft cupboard.

To the bedroom where they've obviously come out, got home from school, took all their stuff, all the shit that they've got. Four recorders I've seen. Why do you need four recorders? There's two of you. And no one, no one playing for the recorder. We're not allowed to play at home because the dog sings to it. And it drives me insane. I was like, no, you cannot play the recorder at home.

I mean, I have four. We all of a million different colour red crayons when why do we, why? Do you know what I mean? When I thought about six-packet. It was the first gig case and brought home, like, workbooks because normally it's just been a wad of, like, printed sheets of, like, tracing things and artwork, which normally after a while, I kind of slide in the bit. Or I pick out one or two things.

Yeah. But, yeah. This is the first year. He's come out with actual, like, textbooks, but. ones that you write in and i say half of it's like still there so it's like i feel bad bin in it because so i've said to him i'm going to leave them well not leave them out i'll put them in his room but yeah if you're bored oh yeah so i've done that before i've left but do they actually is it worth it no i'm not i'm going to my house i don't because i don't even do homework in my

house do i so i'm a bit being for that i don't mean that in a bad but i mean like if he's bored in the summer you want something to do it's up and out yeah yeah so i did that i've done that before in keeping the textbooks that they haven't completed with the intention that they're not that's one of those you just never actually get around to it there's not a chance mine would do that not a chance that i'm going to make and sit down and do it because can't be bothered with a battle i wouldn't make him do it no no but my children wouldn't get up and go oh i'm going to go and do this textbook of maths exactly yeah not chance they're going to get in the call exactly that so well at least you could use it as that well don't tell me your board there

because you're clearly not that board because you would do your math so but also at the same time it's a long time three months is a very very long time to not be doing any recap of stuff and I'm not big on it but I do find that difference exactly so I have found the difference of not doing anything over summer

and literally we get to September and I'm like oh my God they forgot just this and more time table that's the thing when they don't do anything in the summer I don't I don't but again I think I get more conscious of it getting to the end of summer like shit they actually haven't done

anything. I think I say it's just them things of making yourself feel bad. And it's like they go to school for like nine months. Yeah. It's just that big chunk of not doing anything that it makes, God, that is quite a long time of not doing anything. It's very easy for them to forget things that they literally just learn. Yeah.

At the same time, I feel like, because even in my head I've seen things like, oh, having a bit of a routine. Like if you want a device in the summer holidays, make sure you've made your bed, you've had your breakfast, you brush your teeth, you've got dressed. And then I think, let him just relax. And again, I probably might get one day

of the whole 12 weeks that I would think like that and think like that. But then at the other times I'm like, all I repeat myself to them, especially obviously Mason's, Morgan's left now, just enjoy this time. This is the best time you will get of, not trying to put a damper on being an adult or anything,

but just have fun and be, you know what I mean? Being an adult's not all it's cracked up to be guys. Sometimes we have to be so serious. Even I feel like it. I even say to them, I'm not doing this to be miserable. I don't want to say stuff and go on. He's studying, he's working, he's earning.

There's lots that comes with the responsibility of that. So, like, while you don't have to work, while you don't have to study seriously, well, you do, but you don't, you know what I mean? You're not, this time is to learn, but it's not to put pressure on that. Otherwise, you wouldn't do it then. So, yeah, but no, we've,

I've got no plan plans for summer, but I've put Kaysen in summer school for three weeks. Oh, you have? Yeah. It's actually done. Booked. As does he know? He knows.

Okay. How does this reaction? Because I didn't want to go, didn't it? No, he can't say to me, have you booked it yet? No, no, yeah. Good. And I'm like, right, you are going though. So I nearly booked it because they, um, I'm putting him in one near us.

And they only do four weeks. So I was going to book the four weeks and Liam's like, it's the first time he's going. It's not his school. He doesn't know anyone. Just do three weeks. And we've got the baby at home. So it's not even like we're kid free. We can work.

But you're not doing it for you. it for his brain, like, so that he's not bored. I said, I'm not doing mine. I said to him, I was like, you've got a week and a half to do nothing, then you've got summer school for three weeks. Then you've still got eight weeks off. That's exactly what mine are doing. I'm usually wearing for the whole of the summer because usually Morgan makes me extend it.

I was going to say, he enjoyed it. Yeah. So usually I have to, I only book a certain amount and then by the end of that, he's no, I want to go longer. So I have to try. It's an easy way for you to see your friends, isn't it? It's in making new friends. Yeah.

Because the different. And that is fun. It is easy. different people. That's what it is. And okay, yeah, if you're all your friends, so you go, but you do end up interacting with different people, do you know what I mean? And they do so many activities. That's what I said to me. I was like, it's fun stuff that you're going to enjoy doing. And then the minute I booked it, so I told him, and then he was open to it in the end, because they emailed me saying, like, yeah, there's space and let Casey know

the theme this year is space. So then I was told him and then I think that made, that made it land nicely I think that it's space I was like you love space you know so much about space I know so no I think that would be good so he starts like the first week of July yeah that's literally like mine so they go for that

and then it's well end of July August I'm going to take time off I always take two weeks off in August just because I've had to learn although I'm very fortunate that I've got obviously both sets of grandparents and auntie and auntie because obviously uncles at work

Yeah. And Mitch is around. So, yeah, we are very fortunate. However, I've always thought of it. I've just always done it this way. But no, I have to sort them out as if I'm on my own. I'm not obviously, but just how I think. And August, nowhere does childcare do they? Literally, shut everywhere here in this country, shuts down in August.

And I do get it. I do completely get that. It is. I do get it. The only thing, a question is, what do you? expect the parents to do who do obviously need to work in certain areas of the life I think that what do you expect them to do for four weeks or five weeks because then it goes into September you can't you don't even have that much holiday in a whole year so that

so I've always took two weeks off and it fell on my birthday and now obviously it falls on Lexis that's great so we have the two weeks off of that I think it's nice because it gives you that proper quality time with them and like I say we've always been lucky the similar situation to you Although we don't have my mom and dad. Oh, yeah, you haven't now, have you? They've moved back to England. So we don't have one set of nanny and granddad. And he, and...

They're the ones that Kaysen would always sleep at. Yeah. Like I say, he's, he only sleeps at theirs. And like I say, they work for themselves. So it's like whenever we needed them, they would have both of them. So, yeah, we don't have... And either he didn't need them to have them. This is the thing.

Yeah, they still... Like, no, we haven't had them. Because sometimes Agrobras are like, we haven't seen them. Yeah, which is nicer because then like you feel like it's not safe. You only ask for childcare when you work in or do you know what I mean? Something like that. It's never just to not do anything. Do you know what I mean?

Or just go right, should we just? Whereas sometimes when they offer, when you're not expecting it, it's that, oh, yeah, we've actually got nothing to do. That's nice as well. So, no, like I say, we're still lucky because Liam can, you know, pick up the childcare. I'm off Friday, Saturday, Sundays and then I think, yeah, I'll do the same. August will be quiet for work anyway,

so I think I'll take some time off. I'm not quite, but I've just always had, I've just two weeks of August and then that's it, do you know what I've always done it. And then you've got that last drag of the September bit having you when you get your list and you've got to go out of your huge list. I've never had to do that.

Case in schools, they make us give them 80 euros at the start. I think as used to, that when Mason was at school. But, yeah, they literally give you this huge list. And this is why I end up with 10 reds of a crayon that you don't need because I'd buy certain stuff and then they come home and they need more stuff. How do you need more stuff? Yeah.

Do you know what I mean? And then it comes all back home. And then that goes into the cupboard. So I've got like however many years of rubbers and sharpeners. Because instead of using them, we'll go out and buy a whole new set again. And I get it because I remember when I used to start, September, was the next to the New bag. New pencil case, new bag, new trainers. And everything's kind of coming back, I feel, from our era. Is that right?

So do you remember? Y2K. Yeah, and the pencil case. Do you remember the pencil? The pop out and all these things have come out. Oh, yeah. They like the push the buttons and then you have like the slides. Lexington out one. I was like, oh my God, this literally takes me back to well. Do you remember like the Lucase bottle with a zip round the top or like the Coke bottle, Pringle one? And then I used to start using, I think it might have been second shot, unless it's it was in year six so we had to get used to

write it with a fountain pen. Yes, fountain pens. Do you remember? And then you get the eraser. No, but then, you know, in the cartridges

you had out the balls. Yeah. Why I used to bite them out was that not the thing at your school? I think people to get the bones out.

Yeah, people did mess out of that. To get them to collect the balls from the cart, ink cart. I don't know what that was about, but it was a thing.

Do you remember gel pens and smelly gel? Smelly gel. Glitter gel pen. I, I, I, I, oh my God. Lexi actually has some gel pens and I was there smell and she looked at me like do they smell like as if I was weird but obviously we had nice smelling one

Lexi doesn't know that so I was like oh do they when she had these gel pies I was like oh my god I love them pens what do they smell like and she was like what do they feel you're about mum but no you I remember going to like WH Smith's and then like you you pick out like the individual ones and they're like popcorn yes bubble gum the baby pink bubble gum and I'll tell you why I know this because remember this so vivid because I remember getting a new set right of smelly gel pens and I had my oldest niece come over to our house

I don't know for the night or whatever it was and my dad obviously not realising how special these pens are to me kind of thing let my little baby young baby knees colour colouring with my gel pen but she used the whole of my bubblegum baby pink gel pen and seriously it was like the end of the world for me my dad didn't understand what was

going on. Obviously, my niece was obviously a child, didn't I have a clue? Do you know what I mean? She was just colouring that I'd give her something to colouring, bless up. And yeah, I was literally like, you've let her use all my family child, but I remember getting the paper like, no, it's just, oh for gone. It's so sad. It's like impossible to go by another one.

It was so sad, but that was precious. That was life back then. Stationary was like precious. Yeah, Lexi's quite a bit like that with, and her cousin, he's a bit like the stationery, stationing with queens. Every time we go to a shop, we've got to buy a new pen or a book or, you know, like something. Your niece made me that when we had a private Hendo meeting.

Did she? Maybe that, yeah. Oh, you think she asked me what my favourite colour was while we were planning your Hendo and then brought it to me. Oh, that is so cute. I was going to say as well that bracelet. Because my bracelet broke, my decisiveness thing. Oh, no.

It did. And I knew when I kind of took it, it was caught into something. I thought, as I pulled it, I thought it's going to go. But I have saved all the balls. I was going to say Liam has got it because all of these have been stabbed. Oh, wow. Yeah, Hayden's broke every single one of them. So Liam bought the stuff and he threaded it through for me.

So, yeah, bring, bring, I know, I didn't even ask it. That's really good. To bring all the be. Nietzsche would have threw everything in the bin. Yeah. Well, I nearly did. But then I was like, I have actually got all the balls here. Yeah, that's what I've not gone everywhere. The room, don't get me collecting them.

So, Nick would have. definitely through it. He's the kind of person who when you bring stuff home from the shop and you can't fit it or find a space in the fridge, he'll throw something out to be able to put that thing in fridge. That's funny. That isn't it? All over. So yeah, bring your beads next week and we'll fix your bracelet for you. I do like

wearing it. Must help me. No, it's nice to keep things if you can. Yeah, yeah. So now we're on summer heads. Yeah. Is it now? I have the holidays started. We will have sore heads probably next time we record. oh yeah

oh god yeah it's this week it's getting it's this too sleep yeah so yeah next week

we'll probably catch you up with bingo bongo benedorm night out we will catch you up with Kaysen's play watch us go

we didn't even make it we went to lunch and didn't even make it to the big don't someone joked about there on the WhatsApp chat and I thought

right I'm not drinking it lunch because that will be me was there once you can stop I'm not very good at stopping so yeah it's fun it's fun times so thanks for joining us again we've reached 52 subscribers wow so we're climbing up the charts so yeah thanks again for your guys support we love it

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