The Rising’s Growing Together Podcast - The TRUTH About Valentine's Day: Real Love vs. Grand Gestures

Episode Date: February 13, 2026

Welcome back to The Rising's Growing Together ! In this special Valentine’s Day episode, we’re peeling back the curtain on what love actually looks like from the primary school "butterfly" feelings to the reality of keeping the spark alive after 20 years..We dive into the adorable (and slightly awkward) world of our kids navigating their first crushes, discuss why a handmade card beats a designer bag every time, and break down the 5 Love Languages to help you understand how you and your partner best receive love..💖 VALENTINE’S GIVEAWAY: We are giving away a pair of Love Bond bracelets! To enter:Follow @TheRising1111 on instagram.Like the giveaway clip.Tag 5 friends in the comments to share the love this valentines! To get the chance to win the prize!!

Hi guys. Hey! Welcome to a Valentine special. It's Valentine's. Not that you can see because it's absolutely no Valentine's stuff in it. I wasn't that prepared for this episode to be fair. I did want something.

I just looked down and I was like, oh, is that a lot part, but it's not as cherries. I am. I've got more and more porpovo. Well, you've come all prepped. Tried, and I went for pink today. I was going to say that's a little bit different for you. Yeah, I'm already regretting it.

Oh, yeah. I think it's going to come off either until like like... Is it a stank? Yeah. Well, no, just like a... Yeah, sort of. It's just like a stick. Yeah, like a stick.

Like I use the other one, my cheeky one. Okay, yeah, yeah. That in just a different colour. Okay. But it is, um, I can't actually see myself. I know, I know it's quite bright. You're doing that a lot. Like, yeah, I know it's bright.

That's why. And I don't usually wear bright. But yeah, I thought I'd get me. It's better than red. Or it was a bit. Yeah, very lot. Like just come around the day. I really like wearing red lipstick.

But at the same time, like it's a lot. Yeah. And it's bright, like you're saying I'm like. I used to wear pink a lot. But like more of like a lighter pink. I think it's probably why I've never bought this. It's probably a body on. I was like, whoa.

But here I am. It's Valentine. Yeah. Are you feeling the love? Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to lie. I didn't really think about it. I think because it's on just a day for me with football and stuff. It is just almost like every day.

It's not like a bank holiday or anything. I think it's different when you're younger and you've got really, that's kind of the only thing that you've got to kind of do. I think when you're young, And when you're in an early, part of a relationship, it can be really lovely. Yeah. Like, it is more of a thing, whereas I think, you know, 20 years deep. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's less of a thing. Yeah, and again, I'm not, especially, Mitch makes loads of effort and it's in, it's lovely for me and Lexi. Okay. Not the boys, just the girls. No, not the boys, actually. It's funny you say that because Morgan did go, you know, Dad gets like Lexi something. Can you get me something? Can you get me something?

Okay, this is just going way far now. Kids are just taking over everything, aren't they? But I'm sure... Kids never used to be... No, kids were never involved. Getting involved in everything. But having said that, when I was younger, my mum and dad would get me like a card

or like a little snow globe or like they would get me... You're right, like a little white teddy with a red part of them. I don't know, I know what you mean. Yeah. But when he said it, I was just like, yeah, all right. But I'm sure last year I got... I got them saying this. I don't really help myself.

I'm sure I got them like a little Valentine's basket thing. Yeah. But I'm presuming that was because... it did. The day fell on a Friday. I didn't have much to do. I obviously had the time to kind of sort it all out and lay it out and all this kind of like Insta-Tick-Tock style. Yeah. And I did that last year. So I think they're expecting this. It's not going to happen this year. I think I did it for Kays and one year, but literally one year and I'm pretty sure it was before Hayden. And I got him like, I think I just went to like flying tiger and got like, you know, little, yeah. I think he was into

like rainbows. So he had rainbow socks and like different things like that. which was cute but yeah I'm kind of feeling like I need to do something but it's like tomorrow and I haven't done anything well I used to so well I used to I would put something in their lunchbox even if it's on a little bit of post-it note thing and just put like a heart and that's cute yeah something like that or if it was if it fell on valentine's day they were there again it would and they were in school I would do like a little chocolate heart in the lunchbox

not now for obviously Morgan and that because I think he'd probably be devastated but he definitely like it when he got home yeah you know what I mean he appreciates it just don't embarrass me in front of my friends alright yeah he definitely want to miss out but yeah imagine like getting your lunch out

or something you won't even take a lunch box now it's just a you know like a baguette or something like that just like that you're on a box serving it's no no it's fine so it is more of like a thing for the girls in your house yeah which is nice I think it shows like, was it chivalry? I don't know. When like, like men with good manners that open the door for you and like open your chair.

And it's just nice. It's not a thing of like, do I mean, I do think it's nice, you know? Yeah. And I don't think you have to spend a lot. Like, I see, I think I spent like a tenor on K. That's what I mean. I mean, like, even going. I don't expect big presents for Valentine's.

Even with me and Mitch, I don't. It actually, I'd more think about what you spend. Yeah. In anything else. I've said it before. Just like my birthday and things like that. coffee in bed. You know what I mean?

Literally a card, homemade preferably, because how expensive things are getting out. Cards are ridiculous. Yeah, things like that. So it's when the cards cost like three, four euros. It is. So things like that,

I just think they mean more. You know, like they put more personal touch. It is, you know, going back to it, I know it is different when you're younger,

I think, it is more of like a, you feel like you need to spend so much to make it. Well, it's good and how you think it's more. more of like the value and the gift. Yeah, that's it.

It's a weird thing, isn't it? And as you get older, you do it sometimes. But, you know. There are couples out there that spend a lot of money and expect a lot on a Valentine's Day. But yeah, like you say, I think I'd rather, you know, show me all year. Something a little, you know, different on Valentine's Day. Yeah.

Even if it was just a handwritten note, Liam used to write me loads of notes when we were younger and cards and stuff. Even on the back of a dentist appointment, you know, you don't have to spend a fibre on a bloody card. It is. It's true. It's just taking that time, just like on Mother's Day, Father's Day, whatever it is, just to remind yourself actually how much. But I think it takes you like maturity to realise that, whereas as kids it's less.

I mean, some of the ideas Mitch has come out with them, I'm like, who, who do you think you are? You're like a billionaire or something? Also, you don't need to, it's lovely. Like, it's so lovely. Do you know what I mean? But first of all, she's not that kind of a girl to expect, you know, whatever you're thinking of. And you don't need all that.

You know, you're putting yourself pressure on yourself. Do you know what? I like that I've seen dads do where it's like take them out for a date or something. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, it doesn't even have to be like a new outfit, but like there's an outfit. Be ready or sort your own outfit.

Be ready at six. Exactly. I take you out and then, yeah, it doesn't even have to be anything. But I think, yeah, treating them like little ladies. Yeah, I like the idea of how Mitch does do it with Lexi. that is a nice idea for the dads to do it with their daughters. I'm probably not so much going to do it with the boys. And I do think you've got, especially, you know,

so I mean, I don't mean kids shouldn't have it. But at the end of the day, you know, this is about, I feel it's about couples. Yeah. It's about your Valentine, isn't it? When you're younger, it's about your crush. It's about, I think, anyway. No, it's true because, you know, little things like that for years, me and Liam have have bothered, you know, the odd year maybe,

like say something little like chocolates or things that you know lollies that I know that he likes and stuff you know silly little nice things that are the thought but as I'm kind of getting a bit older and Kaysen's getting a bit older I'm starting to think hmm should Liam actually make more of an effort to do those things kind of like every year not spend much no just even for my last birthday I said to Liam don't just go get me something take Kason with you and let him like be with you because it's he's getting to the age where he needs to start seeing the effort that, you know, Liam is very thoughtful.

Yeah. But if you're always doing it and he doesn't see it, then he won't be thoughtful. I see, I suppose mine's see, I've done that anywhere. I've kind of done it without knowing I'm doing it. Yeah. Does that make sense?

Yeah. In them situations. So with like that, if Mitch goes out, the boy, it's like a team effort of going to do it, whatever it is. You know what I mean? Well, even the other week,

I dragged casing out because obviously Liam's birthday was only two weeks ago. And I wasn't really going to get in much, to be fair, because we've got lots of things coming up anyway, and we just bought tickets to go back to England for Neo and Acon. So I was like, we don't really need to overspend, like, you know, better to spend, like say when you need and want something. But I was like, oh, Kaysen, let's go to a little corner shop,

let's at least get him some chocolate and stuff. Got to the corner shop and it was closed. I was like, Kaysen, we're going to have to go. like so we popped head and I was like just taking the car keys and then we went on a little mission and ended up getting him like a new man bag because he wears you know bags and his is a bit old now so I got him a new man bag and a couple of nice t-shirts and stuff but yeah it was nice to take him out and let him see that yeah have that have that memory of going to like yeah good doing it yeah yeah it's nice again I we just do I've obviously done it without knowing I'm doing it

just because they go and do it together yeah Yeah. Kaysen did make me laugh the other day. He was like, so seeing his Valentine's days coming up, that's actually how he talks. I was like, I think I might ask his crush to be his Valentine. I said, yeah, okay. I was like, you know, normally like you get like a little card and you ask them to be your Valentine. And maybe like a little gift and then they say yes or no. And then he was like, I've changed my mind. I went, why, in case she says no? And he went, yeah. I mean, she's not going to say no. And I said, even if she does, like, it's a nice little gesture. Like, no matter what happens, you should still do something if you want to do it, trying to, you know, give a life lesson.

And he was just like, nah, I'm over it now. Forget it. God's sake. It's very much like that, isn't he? If you think, you know, like no certain design app, I forget it. Yeah, but I was all like, oh, that's nice. I was like, I'll take you out. And because it's on Saturday.

And they go to drama together. I was like, oh, you'll see her on Saturday as well. So, like, on Friday, we'll go, we'll get something little. And, you know, you can give it to her. And then he was like, nah. And I was like, you don't have to give it to her in front of everyone. You can just, you know, do it just you two. He was like, no, no.

Completely. Because I'm saying nice way. Going back to, obviously, like, with the school, like school times, you know, I mean, like when you get Valentine's cards and it's a question mark and you don't know who it is, but you definitely know who it's from. Do you remember one year when we were at school and there was two boys that got us gifts And did they give you or me a lighter? Yeah, I think it was you.

I don't know what you got the light up. Anyway. I remember that. But I also thought they were, they obviously thought about what we liked. It was actually thoughtful, but it was a lighter. But it kind of like chocolates and everything else like that. But yeah, a little lighter. But it is going back.

And even before, like, you know, for example, these, as are in primary school, well, your old is my youngest. But I've had that experience recently with Lexi Blas. there. So she's, I hope she don't mind me talking actually about this. She's got a crush. And, so she's had an experience of someone else having a crush on her. Oh, I remember this. But her just wanting to be friends. Friends. So yeah. So Lexi's had experience. She has a crush. Yeah. But she has, sorry, so she had an experience that someone had a crush on her. Yeah. but she didn't feel the same.

She just wanted to be friends with them. Oh, bless her. And that really... That was well out of her. That really kind of upset her because she didn't want to upset the person who had a crush on her. Oh, she didn't want to hurt his feelings.

Yeah. I've been in that situation a few times. It's horrible. Yeah, but she still wanted to be friends and she didn't want it to change anything. Do you know what I mean? Which is really hard because at that age you just feel so awkward. Yeah, and yeah, I think she really got upset about it, bless her.

So then, but then I was also trying to explain to that young, it also shows you haven't got to just do something because you feel sorry for someone or whatever the situation. You've got to keep other people's feelings in mind, but you can't, yeah, you can't, you're not responsible for other people. And that's not just for that. That goes for everything. So, do you know what I mean?

Whether it's friendships, anything, do you know what I mean? It's got to feel the same, you know, otherwise it's not whatever. But obviously she's very young for this sort of shit. But anyway, I remember it so well when you're that age, it's everything. isn't it? Oh, it's the whole world. It is, it is.

So now she has a crush, bless her. And it was so cute the other day. She came home and said that they were playing like hide and seek and whatever. And she couldn't see the people who were supposed to be like tagging her or finding or whatever. And her crush kind of came behind her and put her arm around her and kind of pointed to where she should see where the people are. And she was like, how do you touch me. you know like that kind of extreme kind of feeling bless her so um she's she's been all prepared to take a little something in um she wanted to get uh like a little gift and a card again just

something little um and had Mitch around Mercadonna smelling all the all the clones as she calls them um and and yeah so she she was all prepared to to take a little gift in a card And, yeah, last night she had an accident with her big brother, and she's really her foot, so she didn't go to school. So she hasn't able to go and give it to him, which she was absolutely gutted about, bless her. Oh, it's fine. It's fine anyway.

You've got Monday. Yeah, it's not the same. Between, did I get what she's trying to say. So it's all ready to take Monday, but just going back to how it, you know, when you're younger, it's more of like a... It is a huge thing. Like a butterfly-y feeling, isn't it? Yeah.

Because at Lexi's age, when we were at school, you would get like a card with a question mark and it'd be like, who is it? Whereas now I don't feel like it is hidden. No, it's not, isn't it? You openly kind of ask people to be your Valentine or you make it known. Whereas when we were kids, I was like,

I got three Valentine's cards, who are they from? Yeah. And I think just because the way just society and everything is now, there are so much more extreme stuff. Back then it wasn't so, that was it? but the things that you can see now happening, which is lovely. Again, I sound so miserable with stuff, don't I?

But it's just not, for me, obviously it's lovely to get a nice bunch of flowers and, you know, and whatever. But I don't, I wouldn't want some of the stuff I see. You know, like, I'm just like, that over the top. Yeah. Well, a lot of the time, you know,

I saw this on another podcast. The couples that make the biggest grand gestures generally tend to be the ones who like, or counter-waxes for something else. Don't actually have, you know, much going on or actually on the verge of breaking up and they do tend to break up. The ones who post so much about each other and talk about each other online a lot. Yeah, tend to be. Yeah, I think for me it's that.

I think what I would love more than anything is some time, go for a walk, watch a film. Like, that's me. The free stuff. Yeah, it's lovely going for a dinner and things like, honestly, it is. It's lovely. But what do we really enjoy most? And that would be it, you know? It's funny you say that.

I'm lucky enough to be, to be, you know, shown those things. Near enough weekly, every, you know, daily or whatever. So it's nice to have that extra special day, definitely. Yeah, but like I say, I don't think it has to be the big day that it, yeah, the little things count more. And even before we started recording, I was trying to do a love language test. which took me like 15 minutes, even though said it was five minutes. And then at the end it didn't give me the results because I wanted me to pay for it. Because I wanted to find out.

To see what you were. But a lot of the questions were, would you prefer a gift or would you prefer to go for a walk? Would you prefer quality time or would you prefer, you know, things? And I think we're in quite a similar situation whereas I wouldn't describe Liam as the most romantic person. But when I actually list like the little things that he does on a regular basis, They are really thoughtful and loving. And yeah, I suppose it is romantic. Exactly that.

Because then imagine you, you're, the whole year, it's, you don't really get any acknowledgement or appreciation or just anything. You know, that sort of anything. Yeah. And then all of a sudden Valentine's year, get all this massive faff and you think, where's that come from? Like I say, I would much prefer my cup of tea made every morning. Yeah.

Come home from the shops with, oh, I saw this, I thought you'd like it. random text compliments or in-person compliments and affection, then a designer bag once a year. Exactly, yeah. And yeah, a little gesture on your anniversaries and Valentine's Day. Yeah, of course. I want some gifts. Because it's Valentine's Day.

No, no, no. But for me, for me personally, like you say, I think we're on the same thing. All that would be. Well, if you add it all up, there's just too many bloody celebrations all year. Everyone would be broke. Yeah.

Like, like you say, Burrush. birthdays and anniversaries are much more important because they're personal. Valentine's Day, you know, it is the day of love. But like you say, it's just a day that, you know, shops make a lot of money. Yeah, it is the day of love. So give me a handmade card and some, my favourite chocolate or something and, yeah, be done with it. Yeah. But when you say it's the day of love, I think it is more focused on a couple thing, you know,

because when you say what is love? Yeah. Well, there's, like we were saying this before we started, there's all different types. because I love some of my friends. I love my family, Liam, my kids. They're all different loves in different ways. Exactly that.

Exactly that. Yeah. So when you, if anyone was to, you know, question me what is love. Who? Love who? Probably explain it a different way for each different person.

So if Lexi was to say, what does it mean to be in love, like with a partner? How would you explain to? Well, I suppose, yeah, a partner. So love generally is still a feeling. Yeah. It's a feeling.

So say, it's just like saying you're, angry. It's a feeling. It's like a bit of an emotion, isn't it? Is that the right word to use? So as, as, as, as as as as much as you would kind of be, you know, angry, you can, you can, you can love. Yeah. You know, so it's a feeling of love, but it's also a feeling of it's a positive feeling, I think. It's not a negative feeling. And it's more of a feeling of, um, care. Like it's a lot of different things, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. If you think about it. I think you can't just love some... Yeah, with loads of things under the other things.

But also, I think that you can, you can not have some of the things and still love someone and probably not want to love them. Yeah, yeah. But you can't help that. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah, definitely. Because, you know, we just said love's positive. But when you love someone, if they love you back, that can be fantastic.

and that is, I think, what everybody wants. But there are situations where you love someone and it's not, they don't love you in the same way back and then it's toxic and... Well, it's not what love is, is it? Or you still love someone when you're not actually getting it. Yeah, it doesn't mean. So you could, all these things happening or whatever,

oh, but they love me, well, they can't love you because they wouldn't do those things if they loved you. Yeah, they say they love you. You know what? Actions don't show it. Exactly, you know, so... I think that's a lot of. good to say like love is a feeling but being loved is almost you know it is about you know loving other people but

also being loved and it's not just how what you say to someone and it's how you make them feel and it's that's with all your behaviours and your actions yeah so you can say it as much as you want but i think what's really important to teach you know not just girls but boys is you know do people back up what they say because, you know, words are easy, but it's the actions that show you the truth. Exactly that. And again, partners was one thing, but love can come in so many different ways. You know what I mean? Like you say how we love our parents to how we love our partners, completely different. How we love our partner to how we love our children is completely different. We've had this conversation before of what was the question. Who would you say first?

Was it? You know what I mean? You know, it does. Yeah, that guy was like, I saved my wife. I can have more kids. You know, like you do. You do love and our friends and all these, all these, you know, pets even. Yeah. You know? I do think that the love that you have between you and your partner is probably, I don't know how to explain it, whether it's the biggest love or the most impactful love because it is ultimately the biggest decision you're ever going to make

who you're going to choose to spend life with because that depends on the whole trajectory of your life who you choose to partner with. But obviously, if you lose your partner, that's your complete other half that you do life with. That is a huge hole. And I'm not saying losing anybody else would be not as bad. But that's the person that you spend the most time with, that you use to do life with, make decisions together, support each other. Like, yeah, it is a very different love. I suppose it's more, most impactful maybe.

It's the one of, I know French movies too, but it's one of the only loves we kind of tune. I've seen that before and I like that. Because you're born into everything else and everything else is kind of made that way. Your parents love you because they're your parents. Your siblings love you because you're their siblings. Your friends, you can kind of choose. But that is like I say a different level of love. But yeah, your partner is the person who's chosen you for you with no conditions of strings attached.

So I do really love that. I think that is really nice. Yeah. And again, I think with I've either. heard it a lot. You can love someone, but not be in love with someone. I agree with that. I think there are two different times, loving someone and being in love. I think that I think that's probably what happens a lot with long relationships. Sometimes bad things happen and, you know, it has to end. But for those where there's probably a lot of people where you just gradually

drift apart and yeah, you love them, but you're not in love with them anymore. And I think you have to really make the effort to stay in love with someone. Yeah, and get that spark or remember where that came from. Yeah. Sometimes it does kind of, you know, come back and sometimes it just doesn't, whether that's just because of time, age or you've grown out of that. Or you've changed so much that you're not actually each other's kind of vibe anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

So it can change as well, can't it? Yeah. Well, another thing that I thought was quite interesting is love languages. which you said you didn't actually know about before we started. So I've heard of it and I'm sure, you know, back in the day doing like the magazine quizzes, like you probably would have done that. Oh, yeah, I do. Yes or no. Is that what you mean when you're getting, so know, you have to go down and then.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So the kit that it would have definitely been on there. You probably would have done it. I'm sure it's like a, you know, a Cosmo Girl kind of type quiz. Yeah. I can't think what I add. But yeah.

So generally, I mean, there's loads of different things, but generally the consensus is there's five love languages. And it's how you like to be loved. And I think what some couples fall in the trap of is I love Liam like I like to be loved, but Liam likes to be loved in a different way maybe. So you actually have to know each other's love language that you do that. Because you can love them with all the feelings and the actions, but you might miss because there are different types of love that we like to receive.

So words of affirmation. So these are more verbal compliments, appreciation. encourage, you know, written notes. It's all about words of affirmation. That's one love language. That's one love language. The other is quality time. So this is undivided attention, engaging in shared activities, doing things together,

meaningful conversations without distractions. That's another type. Another is physical touch. So that's through physical gestures, holding hands, hugging, kissing, cuddling, that kind of thing. Acts of service demonstrates affection by doing things that, easy other partner's burden. So helping with chores that they know you don't like, helping with the cooking, running errands for you, anything that can make your life easier and they do the tasks. So that's acts of service. And then receiving gifts. So involves thoughtful,

tangible tokens that show partners that they were thought of, focusing on the gesture rather than the monetary value. So not big gifts like we were just talking about, but actually thoughtful gifts. So yeah, they're the five types. I don't, I get, there's, The acts of service makes me feel like it's like a little Jerry for you. Like, you know, like the way it says it. Yeah. I, I, um, we are definitely like that as a, as a, as a, as a couple. Yeah.

But I feel like, I don't know, because I'd probably have to do the test. I think I need to do the test. I think. I would be the time one. Is it the quality one? Quality time. That would be me, I think. Yeah.

I think because, um, we just don't get it, you know? And even when we, we do get it, we're not really using it probably properly. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, I like that. We spend a lot of time together, but the quality time is like no distraction, you know, focused in on each other. We got this thing ages ago actually, which we will start.

It's like a calendar thing and you've got like scrap it, like a scratch card. You got like scratch it each month and each month has got like a something to do. That's cool. I like that. Like a date calendar and a whack, sort of like that. I'm sure February was like, I don't know if January February was like, go ice skating. The next time was like to start a dance class.

You know, like something like that. Or do a dance class or something like that. You know what I mean? I did hear from... It's hard if it falls out, you fall out and doing those things. You end up to go for dinner. I did hear that one of like a relationship expert said, one of the best things that you could do to keep that freshness and connection

is to do new things together or to go to new places together. When you experience something new together, you know, it's memories, it's laugh and it's love and yeah, I think that's really good. Yeah, I do. I think as well with just how parent life is with children, like I say everything's around them and their hobbies or parties or, you know, their schedule should we say, do you know what I mean? So even, you know, if we never just take that time out for,

yeah, we've got a class or we're going to play paddle or we're going, do you know, for example? And do you think Mitch is the same? He would pick quality time too. think he prefers to receive love in a different way? No, I think he would be the same. Don't ask me it's what he wants to receive. I'm not even another kind of work.

No, I think he'd be the same to be fair because we really like each other's company as well. So it's nice just to get that time together without having a conversation without obviously being interrupted. Or, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that. The quality time. It's hard because I like all of them and I think I would need all of them in a relationship.

But yeah, there's definitely some that I prefer more than others. I quite like words of affirmation. Yeah. Liam's quite good at like just messaging me like throughout the day like random like compliments and things. And like I say I really like when he writes me notes and things. To be to be fair, I'm get a bit of every, all of them. So I'm very, very lucky. I think you do need a bit of all of it.

And again, people, like you say, people, I don't know, enjoy your, their relationship, it's better or whatever. Because that's what they like is more of one of. Some people like being showered with gifts. Yeah. That's that to them being shown that they loved, for example. Well, that's it. And I think I've read if, you know, couples that are struggling where,

they think they're showing love to their partner but their partner doesn't feel loved because I need to be told that you love me and what you appreciate about me and that you encourage me and you support me but you don't do that because you buy me gifts so that can be a mismatch and it doesn't mean that you don't love each other

is just that you're showing it to the other person in a way that they don't receive love I laugh a few years ago Mitch I don't get like sexy picks off Mitch or anything like that I get Mitch like selfie just washing up selfie just hanging and washing it out I've seen videos of guys doing that

Do you want to turn your wife on Go do some chores That's what I get Like it makes me laugh That's about it No I'm joking But again people need Me and Mitch are quite easy

But then again Is it because We have it You know And it's there now And this is it It's true I think we're quite easy

As well But I think the more You understand yourself the more... It's easier to know what, to tell them what you want. Yeah, yeah. No, I even watched a podcast, even with like a sex expert. And it was like, oh, we were married for 10 years before I actually started to ask myself

and learn about even just how the female body works. Yeah. So I don't know any of that stuff, really. Like the basics. But until you like learn about yourself, what you like, what you don't like, and then you have honest conversations. How can you respect anyone else to? Yeah, yeah.

It is that, isn't it? I suppose. So, yeah. It's a good thing to know. If you want to sit for a test and pay to you a year, obviously. I'm joking. I'm sure there's free one about that. That bloody test.

Okay. Do you think love is different to kind of what you thought it was going to be when you, like, you were a teenager? Well, I've been with Mitch since I was a teenager. Yeah, but like before getting into a relationship, like kind of what you thought. thought being an adult in a relationship. Is it different? Is it different now to what I thought it was? Is that the question?

No. I've, I know. Because I think, well, I suppose it depends. Because when you're younger, like I say, I think, I don't know, I was like, oh, again, I was, oh, they should shower you with gifts and they should, you know, be like a prince to you. It's a weird thing, isn't it, how you are? Yeah.

And then, obviously, when you are, you know, it feels a bit like, you know, don't, you want all that you just want to be used together sort of thing not like um this princess you know in a way and again some running a girl like that it's just obviously I think that's maybe what I and I think that just comes from maturing maybe that's what I mean that's what I'm saying I think maybe that's what it was yeah when I was younger was that um whereas really I think it's just about being a good couple a team yeah you know and and and and and all of that comes with that, you know, of team and love. Yeah.

Like you say, that umbrella and it is. And along with that, we're parents. And for me, he's the best dad and that's something that. That's like another level of love, isn't it, when you then see them become dad? Yeah, watching him and seeing him and being such a good dad and how the kids literally adore him as their dad and are so proud for their dad,

I don't think you can get much better than that. Do you know what I mean? So even if we wasn't in a relationship, if that makes sense, that enough is for me to, again, love him that way, you know? And then you've got the side of, well, I said it the other week, didn't it? You've got to want to sit on their face, girl, on his face girl, you know, like that kind of thing.

It is that thing. And I'm so lucky. Yeah. We are both so lucky, that he still get that feeling for me and I still get that feeling for him. Because can you imagine if we didn't? No, I do, you know, I do think that sometimes with like, you know, when you see headlines of, you know, couples breaking up and, you know, even just in, you know, people that you know, breaking up. And I do think to myself like, oh, I'm so lucky. Like, that's, I'm so glad that's not me.

And I can understand why it happens because totally. These things. And sometimes it is for the best. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just so glad that we both, you know, 20 years later, still want to be in it. And I think that is another big thing with love is that you both need to want it. Yeah.

And I think it's really sad when you do see one side of the relationship kind of giving up. And it's always the other person who's like, you know, really trying to push in. And it's like, I even watch something, what are we watching? I think me and Liam have, we've run out of like series. So we're rewatching ghost. You probably haven't seen it. I know that. Isn't that a film?

No, it's the series. Oh, it's not called Ghost. It's called Power. Oh, okay. Yeah. The guy's characters called Ghost because he's a drug dealer, so his name's Ghost. But he's happily married with a wife, three kids. He's a drug dealer on one side.

He's got a nightclub and he's trying to go clean or whatever, legit. And then he bumps into a woman or he was in love with as a teenager. But then they moved away and then they had separate lives and they hadn't seen each other in like 10, 15 years. Then they bump into a child. other and obviously all those feelings come back and then it's like he like starts having an affair and then comes home and acts so completely normal and honestly it just gets me in the gut. Oh, it's really pissing out.

How can people just do that like to someone that they still love and she hasn't done anything wrong gives you everything and yeah, it's just not enough. Yeah. Again, I think I'm lucky where well, me and Mitch are getting married. Yeah. on our 20 year anniversary, fuck sake. Do I mean? I'm not saying we haven't been through shit

because fuck, yeah, we have. Do you know what I mean? I don't think we've been normal not to. And we've been through shit that some people in 60 years of marriage haven't even been through. Do you go what I mean? So we've definitely got through it.

But where we're getting married, you know where people usually obviously get married in the first few years of being together or whatever? Obviously, we're not. It's 20 years later. Yet we are still feeding like kind of kids again in a way, you know. But again, we always feel like that. But we're so excited.

Oh, we're getting married. We've been together 20 years, but oh, we're getting married. You know, it's, I think it's good. I say we're lucky. It's a really stupid word to use, isn't it? Well, in a way, I think in a way it is luck because you can't ever know when you meet someone how long it's going to last. So in a way, it's luck. But I think that's probably 5% of it. When you actually think what makes a relationship, it's all the stuff that you put into it. And we wouldn't be sat here in 20 year relationships if we didn't really work on it. And luckily, like you say, the person who you've chosen to really put the time and the effort in and love and, you know, grow that life with still wants to do it with you. Yeah. And it still does want to.

Because it's not easy, like you say, and there is a lot of ups and downs that people don't see. But, yeah, it's just still the willingness to show up for each other and still have like that love. and respect for each other. Yeah. Because you've got love and then you've got heartbreak. Yeah. Which is a whole other level, isn't it? Yeah. You know, like, again, the heartbreak in different ways.

But it's from loving someone that you can be heartbroken, I suppose, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Again, in many different ways, partners, families, pets, whatever it is. Yeah, I'm trying to say. Well, they say that you can't, yeah, you, like the, I don't know what the saying is for a change. I don't know what the word is.

But it's like, yeah. lucky to have loved in the first place anyway, then to not ever at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But how hard it can hit, whether it's loving or heartbreaking, isn't it? It's such a powerful, powerful feeling. I've never felt a heartbreak from a relationship,

but I've been around people that I've obviously gone through that. And yeah, it looks very brutal. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, what do you think? Like how has love changed from when you was a teenager till now? So we've touched a little bit of odd. Like the love changes when, you know,

you reach different levels of life and then you have kids and stuff. But yeah, how do you think it's different now to when it was when you first met? probably just again being more realistic and more mature things you know your mind changes doesn't it or your expectations or whatever it is it's hard for me to say because obviously we were parents from so young so I feel like we didn't get the couple times that's that bit in a way although we obviously still would celebrate it's we still had a life of the child it's a lot of side yeah isn't it

it is different it is and um I think it's probably just more that. That it's of, you just mature and you don't. Do you think the, the saying of like more in love now than before? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Definitely. For me. And that you fall in love with that person multiple times. Yeah. I feel like that. Yeah. Definitely. For me and my relationship anyway, I don't know about you.

Yeah. No, I agree. Because I think, you know, as you go through different like milestones, whether it's years, whether it's, you know, like, buying houses, having kids, you know, career changes, life unexpected things. Like when you support, and I think actually the love grows even more when you go through more shit. Yeah. Like it's great to celebrate good stuff.

But I think the love when you've gone through shit, yeah, if you get through it together, then that becomes even stronger. Yeah. Because again, it's about action showing, isn't it, in a way, rather than... Showing up for each other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That would be for me where it's just growing up, maturing and things kind of, again, life experiences would definitely have made every day more than a million percent.

Yeah, I agree. So let's play a game. Yay, I like this bit. A couple's game. I feel like we need like a game. Come on, Liam, give us a game. What's the word? Theme tune. It's the game time. Jazz hand. So this is kind of like the games that we played before, but it's between, instead of, because we did a little game that we posted the other day with me and you, this is between like you and Mitch and me and Liam.

Okay, right. So who is more romantic? Mitch. Million percent Mitch. Really? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mitch is so much more like romantic.

Definitely. I would say me, I think, in more of like, of like a romantic gesture. Yeah. I think Liam is more romantic in all the little things. Yeah. He's more thoughtful.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would just point out to say Mitch to be fair. Who apologises first? Oh. Liam. Oh, is it? Leo, oh, I think that's a hard one for me. He always says I don't apologize.

I do apologize. If you're in the wrong. Yes. Yeah. I'm not going to apologize. I was just about the reason I got all is because that's a hard. Mitch finds it quite hard to accept if he is in

the wrong. Yeah. Is that you? Probably. Probably. Just in yourself, you know like got get all your face there. Yeah. I'm explaining you. Yeah, no. Liam will say that I don't apologise and I do but just very rarely. Yeah. Yeah. I suppose, I suppose, what was the question? Who? Who? Who apologises first? Yeah, I'd me. Me. And then if Mitch does, he'd have to make his big hoo-ha, all right, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't just say sorry then. Like a big thing about it. A medal. Loon does that to me. Just so sorry. It's fine. It's easy.

I'm like, no. The more you push the more I'm not going to do it. Who holds grudges longer? Definitely me. I'm going to say me. Probably me. Yeah. Yeah.

It depends what week is. To be fair. If I'm due on or that kind of thing, I can be a little fucking bitch. Yeah. But I also do put it out there to tell everybody. Just so you know. Morning. I do.

I do. I actually do because I do think some people look at it. me and think, whoa, what, all right? And I know it, you know what I mean? So probably me, especially if I was having a week. When I was young, that, oh my God. Like, I've definitely got better than I've got older. I definitely, like, get over things much faster.

But when I was younger, I could not talk to him for like a whole day. Yeah. Yeah, day. Maybe few. I was trying to be nice. And then he would need to buy shout. And then he would have to apologize, even though it was probably me. Who plans date nights?

Uh, we don't really have late nights. Yeah. More Mitch, if anything. I don't think ours are that planned. Sometimes it's like an accident or someone offers to like, say, have the boys or like, oh, we'll go for dinner and we'll sort it. Exactly. It's not really on either of us. No, I wouldn't.

Yes. If more anyone, again, more Mitch, because he might organise for all his mum's asked to have the kids or something. Then he's like, well, let's do something then. Yeah. And he knows, he says it. And I know, because it's true, he knows, he knows, this is like a joke now. He's like, we're not going to go out, are we? We're not going anywhere.

We're just going to end up selling. We're just chill. Because either we can't decide where to go. That's probably, you know what we're like. We can't actually know where to go. Or I'd just rather, especially like this time of you, I just want to get all snuggily. Yeah.

Sometimes it's nice to actually be in the house without the noise. Yeah. So, yeah, no, I agree with that. It doesn't always have to be a night out. Yeah. But yeah, no, we're probably the same. Liam has planned a couple. Yeah, one that he planned that.

was out of the blue and he didn't tell me where we were going what we were doing. He'd got us tickets to go to the cinema to watch Top Gun Maverick, the new Top Gun film. That was a really cool day. I like that. I like that. I like that was a great movie. It's just nice and it's exciting things like that, I suppose.

The fact he said it like at the beginning of the day and was like, he got away and wouldn't tell me. I feel like, I feel like I'm really bad now because I feel like I'm going to maybe, maybe here and probably one. And then think, I've done this and I've done this. Yeah. It's hard to remember in the moment. But I've definitely done a lot, but I just can't actually think.

You might have even done the whole, you know, when you put an outfit out and you say dinner at seven or whatever kind of thing back in the day. Yeah. You know, where we've hinted. Yeah. No, that's, yeah. But yeah. Who's more likely to forget an anniversary?

Ooh. Liam. Well, if it's our wedding anniversary, both of us. But actual, like, in terms of... I'm going to say Mitch. Yeah. I'm going to say Mitch. Liam's just not good with dates and stuff.

The anniversary, I don't think he'd forget to be fair unless he just didn't know what the date was. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. But I'm very good with dates. Saying that, I think this year already. It's because you're very good with like diaries and calendars.

Yeah, I am. And also. It's that thing in my head though. But saying that, I did it the other day with our friend. I got, it was at half 11 at night and I don't, I must have just not wrote the date or sin the date because I know if I'd seen the date, it was the first thing I would have thought of would have been our friend's birthday. Yeah.

And it wasn't still half 11. night I think I went like that you know like you lock your phone see the time or whatever I see the time see the day I was like fuck I haven't even wished happy birthday or nothing like you know what you're like say the day's going you don't even know what date is yeah yeah yeah I get that um who's more flirty oh Mitch definitely Mitch yeah yeah I'd say later yeah Mitch is we've got this this joke actually I don't even know when did say it so Mitch is this thing right he does. So he just has this face on him and I'm like, what? And he's like,

so, imagine, I was just thinking, no, sorry, this is what he does. So I go, what, what, what's, what's, what, what's wrong? He's like, then he'll go, so I was just thinking, imagine if, and then it'll just be this real, like, exaggerate thing of something sexual. Yeah. I mean, imagine if she just did this. Imagine if she just did that. Imagine if, you know, like, she just did that. Imagine if, you know, like me, looking at me, obviously. Imagine if she just, I don't know, whatever. And while this, we're cooking or we're seeing, didn't it? It's not like we're in a moment.

Random. Yeah, it's very random. So he's got a little gap, hasn't he? On like, where he needs to finish his tail. I was like, you're going to have to put imagine in it because all these things that you start with imagine. As I was just thinking, imagine. But yeah, no, flirt wise. Yeah, definitely. I definitely wouldn't say I'm flirty at all. Oh, you're not. No. No. No. I think they would like me to be more flirtly because yeah I think it's just easy for guys everything's a bloody sexual innuendo it is it ends up and again but that's quite nice yeah sometimes well I think I may have used to get like a bit fed up not fed up but like yeah kind of thing I did actually I was scrolling through Facebook and it came up on like one of like the mother groups where people just put in for advice and it was a woman that was like I am sick to death of my husband and like everything I can't even look his way and it's like oh you know everything is a sexual joke to the point like I don't even want to look

way. Like it's put me so off. And I think with a guy, I mean, it's just like they're always bloody turned on. It's so easy. Whereas with a woman, you have to be in the mood. And it is a lot more about like your emotional connection. And yeah, sometimes you are in the mood and most of the times you're not. But when it's like constant, like that would, yeah, that would drive me crazy. Yeah, I suppose. But I just feel like a bit of meat. Like, do you even like me or? Yeah. Am I a thing? A blow up, down. Yeah. Am I just holes?

Yeah. Like, but at the same thing. But at the same thing. You just feel like a bit of me. Like, like, But at the same time, if I had none, that's it. It's like, I saw a thing and it was like, you know, when like you get slapped on the ass or like you can't even walk up the stairs up putting your hands behind you. And I was like, yeah, every now and then, like if it does slap me on the ass, I'm like, how, or whatever. And then he's like, yeah, well, you moan if I wouldn't. And I'm like, it's true. I would moan if. Saying that I had to stop that years ago.

No, I had to ask me to stop that years ago because the boys were copying it. Yeah. And I was like, like, they can't, they can't do that to me. Yeah, they get into the ages. It's not appropriate. So, like, yeah, let's not be there. We don't want no Victoria, bloody Brooklyn Beckins in here. Oh, God, that'll be another conversation for another day, actually.

Oh, God, we haven't actually spoke about that, no. Who gets more jealous? I'm definitely more jealous. I'm probably going to answer that bit. Oh, we're probably a bit on par. Not that we've got a problem, but like, I don't know to say. I'd probably say maybe Mitch at a push a bit more. Yeah.

But there's not really, I'm trying to think what. But you're not on a scale that jealous as a couple. No, no. We know. It's not what to. I'm definitely nowhere near as bad now as I used to be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm definitely like hyper jealous. I probably could be. That's what I mean. It's more of like. Bellowed. Yeah. Yeah. We've mellowed as we got older.

Probably could be, yeah. But no, I mean, Liam is like, not jealous on like, the whole other end of the scale. Like, I'm going to be jealous. To the point of like, can you be just a little bit please? Like, I love that. Like, come on now. Yeah.

I remember being at college. There's women who can't move and then you're like, come on. Yeah, like, yeah, I definitely don't want suffocate in jealousy. Absolutely not. But like the odd little, the odd little bit like, hmm, you know. But yeah, even just I remember being at college. And obviously at college, what are you like? 16 to 18 so it's like height of like hormones and like all the guys and all the girls and

you know and all of that and I remember um like I had quite good boobs then yeah not gonna lie you still have good boobs now not too bad but back then oh was even obviously better and um I remember somewhat I can't even remember how it came up but the conversation came up about page three and Liam was like yeah I wouldn't mind if you did that oh I'm like imagine the lads in college opening up a newspaper and having a picture of me in college that wouldn't bother you and he's like no i'd be like that's my wife or girlfriend like at the time you know that's the sort of you'd expect off of mature like yeah you know what old a man not a 17 year old like you've been together six months yeah but um they're like say if you did get that that jealousy kind of overload

oh i'd hate it you would wouldn't yeah i i definitely am glad that his mindset is like oh yeah look at her she's my wife like yeah dress hot like look your best like yeah that's my wife i'm definitely glad that is the vibe yeah yeah but yeah just a little bit of he needs to watch himself you know every now and then would be quite nice um who gives better surprises Mitch yeah I'm shit in my own shit actually I know need to make more effort Charlotte yeah no what about you um oh I think we're we're quite tied but for different things that I'm more of like a big gesture kind of surprise like one valentines I did book us flights to Dubai

this was when Kaysam was really small but that was mainly because we knew we wanted to go so I just used that as a ticket kind of thing whereas like yeah like even for my birthday just gone Liam got me ugg slippers but in my head

I thought he was going to get me the ugged like trainer things that I quite liked but he got me slippers and I'd be like oh they're expensive slippers like I would have been happy with like H&M slippers or Primark slippers but I wear them every fucking day. I'm so glad that he got me them and not the other things. So, yeah, like in some things him.

I have done, maybe I'm just forgetting. I have done loads of different surprises. It's hard, yeah, over the years. But maybe I just feel like, because I get a lot too, that it is him. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. But, you know, I'm just straight off. I'd say Mitch, I think he's.

What topic are you opposites on that you don't agree on? agree on. Yeah. Something where you're on different pages. So for us, the only thing I can really think of quickly is private school. So Liam thinks it's a waste of money, whereas I think it's actually can be worth it.

God, I don't know. What do we know? Not university, private school. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to think. Although there's not much we don't agree on, to be fair. Yeah, we're pretty much on. I have to get back to you if we have a debate over something now.

I really will, because there will be something. Yeah. There will be. I feel like the kids need to be here in this game. Who made the first move? Ooh, move. I'm going to say it was Mitch just because how I was then. Probably still I am now.

Like, prudy. Yeah. But I know when I first see Mitch, he probably didn't have a clue. And I was like, he's going to be my boyfriend. I picked you, but I made you work for it. Yeah. I literally remember him seeing him, him riding off. And I was literally like, that boy,

he's going to be my boyfriend. Yeah. And then that was that. I think we were quite the same to be fair because, wow, we'd actually walk past each other before. But I didn't know this until years later. Because I remember being with a friend of ours at Washington, a good old bar, we used to hang out at.

And he was with another friend of ours that I did know. And I remember having to double take. But I didn't realize that was him until ages later because he was like, I swear I met you at Washington. and I was like, oh, was that you that day? So we knew that ages like after us. But yeah, on the day we technically properly met, which was my 16th birthday,

yeah, obviously, clocked him was like, yeah. But I never really had a boyfriend. I was, yeah, quite timid and that kind of stuff. But I think after a couple of drinks, I was a bit like, yeah. You would have been after a few drinks. But he was quite closed off and I couldn't read him. So I was like, does he like me? Does he like me?

So, yeah, I remember talking to friends of us. and they were like, oh, he's just, you know, like that, but I think he liked you. I remember talking to him outside for a bit. So I don't really know who made the first move because we did have like a little kiss, but I can't remember who went in for it. But I will say that I had,

I don't know why I had our friend's phone on me. So a girl that was there that night, I had her phone for some reason. I put it in his pocket. And as we were like leaving for the night. And to be fair, everyone went back to his house for an after party and I didn't. I think I was a bit nervous.

like what, you know, could potentially happen. So I was like, no, I'm not going back to his house. But I remembered as I was leaving, oh, her phone. And then I went, oh, no, I need a reason to, like, reach back out. So that's technically a move. Yeah, that is a bit of a move. I'm not sure who lent in for the kiss, maybe him. But I definitely set it up.

Yeah, but we'd have to talk again. I would say Mitch would have made the first move just because of how he is. Yeah. Mitch would have definitely put it on me straight away. straight away. I'm sure our first kiss was through the fence of school. That rings a bell. Because I think I probably came up to the room.

Oh my God, I just kissed him. Yeah, because we did just to walk over to the fence and speak to a couple of them. Yeah, you used to bring me a bottle of ribena, didn't they? A pack of my nose. There you go. That's nice. True love. Gifts.

Who's more affectionate? I'd say Liam probably actually is. Affectionate. Probably Mitchie. is there anything we are i know why are they still with us i'm joking we're doing something right clearly no i just can't tell you what i think i think i think i think in all of it to be honest most of it we would bounce off in what we would need yeah do you get what i'm saying but if you were gonna if you think was needed you know if i didn't need to be more affectionate to him in

You know, just of the day of, because of that week, how it's gone or whatever, whatever it is. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I think we would probably, you know, kind of evaluate. Sometimes you read each other and you stand it. But do you know, at least two times a day, me and Mitch end up kind of just meeting somewhere in the house, you know, where we're kind of crossing. Stop. Have a hug.

Yeah. The hug lasts like a good, yeah, good 20, 30 seconds. Nothing gets said. He either kisses me on the head. We'll give a key and then we carry on before. I was probably going to get the washing out or whatever. I do like a kiss on the head. That is a nice sort of thing.

I'm very like, I like that. Yeah. I think I did hear once that that is like a proper, there's a spiritual thing about people, like human beings. Like I can't remember exactly what it is, but it is linked to something like the animal instinct in us.

It's a meaningful, caring money. It's like, I don't know if it's like looking into you kind of thing. I do, I like, yeah, I like. Yeah, it's weird that that's just a thing. Like, that is a good thing. Yeah, by Mitch, obviously, not just like by anyone. Yeah.

Yeah. Exactly. Partless only. Best date ever. Oh, God. I can't remember any of the people. Just as now you're putting it on me now. This is really hard.

This is really hard. Best date. I can't, I'm not going to lie. I probably could. I couldn't tell you any. Not, let alone my best. date. Yeah, it's really hard.

Again, we're not like a big date kind of a... We don't make it a thing of naming it as a date, but yeah, there's plenty of nights we've gone out and done things together. Yeah. Like even a couple times last, no, it was before Hayden, so it was a couple of years ago, on a random when Kaysen would stay out, it would be like, oh, let's go for a drink and a dance and we'd be having passion. Yeah, that was cool.

I loved that. I loved you doing that. Yeah, like just going for a dance together. That was kind of like... What's the word? This inspiring to the right word. But you know what I mean? Oh my God, that is so cool.

Why don't we do that? I know. And it was like half ten and we're like, fuck it, should we go out? Exactly. We had to actually wait for passion to open. We had to go and have a drink in a bar to wait for passion to open. Then we went for a little boogie. So that was nice.

And obviously I think about like being on holiday. But I don't think you date on holiday. I think you just, you do date things. I think that's what I was thinking. And we're always aware. I don't feel like that to date things. No, that's when you're on holiday, you just. Do those things.

You do do those things. I did like the cinema one because that was more of like surprise that he kept all day. Yeah. But yeah, like I say, it's, yeah. I feel like I'm going to, the minute I'm going to bring me. Yeah. What have we done? Yeah.

It's so much. But it is like saying, it just is really hard to remember everything. And especially when we do these pods, it's like, oh God, I should have said that. And nothing is ever prets. So clearly I'm like, oh, let me have a little look. Yeah. It's just like, shit. We've had lovely dates, by the way.

I just, I can't think of any. and I can't think of the best. Well, clearly you spend a lot of quality time together, so you definitely have that time. That's that thing. I'm struggling to wonder how I'm going to get through my three-day hen. So we're never away from each other. I'm like, you know, just going to stay like in the road.

She just pop out. He was like, no. Right, one to finish on. When did you feel most proud of your partner? Oh, my most proudest moment. Again, I keep saying this and I will. I will because it's quite a deep, quite a deep subject. I still feel proud of my partner.

Mitch got through alcoholism. Yeah, yeah. And it was hard on all of us as a family, as a partner, as a parent, as whatever, do you know what I mean? It was hard on everyone, but even harder on him. Yeah. Do you get what I mean? He was in it, he was doing it. And I am so proud of him every day.

for, I don't know, probably just finally realizing what was happening and actually doing something about it. Yeah. I'm really trying and really sticking to it and realizing that he feels better. We're all better from it. And that he's still going from that. And actually people now come to him for advice. Yeah.

And yeah, that's my biggest, proudest moment of my partner every day. Yeah. Every single day. I agree. I agree. Hats off to me. Yeah, that's my. Definitely.

That was definitely an easy one straight. Easy. Yeah. The first easy one. Or the other ones. I don't know. Sorry about it, but well done. Oh God, that's a hard question.

Because like I say, you probably like, miss out something really big. Yeah. Because there's just so much when you've spent 20 years together. Yes. But maybe when we come back to Spain and he started his business. Yeah. Because for those of you that would have known,

only and beforehand, I mean, I would have to call the Chinese takeaway because he wouldn't talk on the phone. Yeah. So to then start a business where you're putting yourself out there, I mean, first of all, taught yourself even how to do the business. Yeah. And then putting yourself out there, answering phones, messages, meeting people. Like now, some of you that know in recent, be like, that would never have been Liam because

he's just not like that anymore. He's completely changed. Like he'll talk to the neighbours, you know. very, very different, whereas he wouldn't actually call a takeaway. Yeah. So actually do, and I'm sorry, I didn't want to forget the point. And for the point of what he's doing it for, he's doing it. Yeah.

To make you two and your lives in Spain successful. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, because he could have stayed doing a crappy job that he was doing while he started his business. So that it would never have worked, would it? You live in here, but you're not happy. So what's the point?

Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, it takes a lot, you know, and even like doing this and, you know, doing the coaching and trying to start something. It takes a lot of courage to put yourself out there. And that for you was your, I would say that's fair. Yeah. Because it's not, it wasn't natural to him. Like you definitely had to push through.

It was probably, I don't want to use the word nice now. It was nice and proud to watch him go out there and come out of his shell because you would see that side. But then when it would come to somebody else, she'd be like, yeah. Where is my Liam kind of thing in a way, you know? And now you've just, he's come out of his shell and he's so, it's not so out there, but he's more out there than he ever was. Yeah, definitely.

For you as his wife. Yeah. Like you say, looking at him so proud of you. Yeah. And that's a turn on. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

Yeah. No, definitely. Like I say, him and just being able to take charge and take control and have his thing. Like, it's nice that he's got his thing. And, you know, when you're in a relationship, and it happens to a lot of women, you see it. And I think we probably a little bit like that at the beginning, when you do everything for them.

which I think, you know, is just the women in us, but sometimes you go a bit, you know, too far to the point that you end up having, like, another child. Yeah, exactly. I mean, we work at a time. I actually think I've mentioned this to Mason's girlfriend. Sorry, Rosa. Stop doing everything for him, you know?

You're just making your own thing, you know? It's hard because, like I say, you want to do that. It's different then. You want to do that for them. So, but it's only as an adult. So, Matthew's pile of clothes, knowing that she comes on a whatever day and knows that she'll be like, oh, I'll hang them up for you. I'm like, Rosa, don't do it.

It's hard because there are things that you love to do for your partner. But when you're an adult, you're like, oh, I see how those things turn into big things, you know. But like it's nice just having a partner that can make dinner reservations, that can book us a holiday, that can, you know, look after the kids without a list, you know, all those things really make a difference. And obviously we met young. so he's definitely come into his own. So yeah, very proud. Yeah.

Good. Well done. Well done. Well done, boys. Yeah. So, yeah, there's a Valentine's Day episode. Yeah, I hope you have a lovely weekend. Whatever you do.

It's with family, friends, partners, little dirty weekend away, eh? Yeah. You never know. Whatever you do and I hope it is lovely. We have a Valentine's Gives. giveaway actually. We do. We do. We will make obviously a clip separate to this, but just to know, we are doing a Valentine's giveaway of a love bond pair bracelet for partners, friends, whatever. I'll get all the information up. So that's basically where you put the bracelet on and you fix it on so it doesn't come off.

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