The Rising’s Growing Together Podcast - We Lost Ourselves in Motherhood… Here’s How We’re Getting Back

Episode Date: March 14, 2026

We lost ourselves in motherhood. And we know we're not the only ones.After a short break, Billie and Charlotte are back with their most honest episode yet. No guests, no script just a real conversation about what happens when "mum" takes over and the woman underneath starts to disappear.Charlotte opens up about "Be More Charlotte" really means not just bubble baths and self-care, but actually rediscovering who she is outside of her kids. Billie shares her own struggles with quality family time, the guilt of chasing ambition, and what she put on her vision board that surprised even her.They also take a trip down memory lane MSN Messenger, Bebo, internet cafes, and what their younger selves would think of the women they've become. Plus, a sneak peek at what's coming next for The Rising's events.If you've ever felt like you've lost a bit of yourself along the way, this one's for you.🔗 JOIN OUR NEXT EVENT: Keep your eyes peeled for end of April follow us on socials for announcements.📲 FOLLOW THE RISING 1111:Instagram:  @TheRising1111  🎧 LISTEN ON ALL PLATFORMS:SpotifyApple PodcastsNew episodes every week. Subscribe and turn on notifications so you never miss one.

Hey, everyone. We've had a couple week break. It's been a while because, well, the last times we've been together, it's been a lot for our guests. Yeah, I can't actually remember the last time we did a pod for us. Like a real get stuck into pod. We were more promoting, obviously, what we were doing and what we were having planned for the future.

So, yeah, it's been a while since we have got together and had a good chat. Unfortunately, as well as that, you have had some sad news in your family, so we've wanted to take some time out. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, yeah, we've had a family bereavement, which has obviously been tough. So maybe we'll talk about that at some point, but it's far too real and raw right now. So kind of using this as a bit of a distraction to, yeah, kind of keep it going, come, you know, bring you guys episodes and let, you know, what we've been up to.

But yeah, that's why we've had a little break. Yeah, exactly. It's definitely still processing everything. Yeah. But we thought we should come in and have a chat and talk about something a little more positive just to try and use that as a distraction, as you said, because we did have our third event.

Third event. Yeah. And it was, it was. It was really, really lovely. Yeah, wasn't it? It was a great, great. It was more focused on vision, boarding. Yeah, so the first two we had were kind of about connection and about self-awareness

and kind of knowing yourself a bit more and where you're at in life and what you want. So it was definitely a lot more about really thought-provoking ideas and sharing and it was quite emotional. And using a lot of techniques that. you bring, especially into a lot of the live coaching that you could use in that event to get deep and to get emotional really in some cases. And for people to feel a bit more in control or walk away with something that they have a takeaway and they can use and apply in their life. So yeah, it was a bit of a different style. So we've tried kind of different days, different times and a different style.

Yeah, it was definitely a different style, which we knew it wasn't going to be so, I say so deep, because it was. You really have to be honest and deep in what you want, really, to make a vision. It definitely still had those elements and, you know, people did get emotional still. It's just we geared it a lot more towards connection with the people around you, building those friendships and relationships and, yeah, kind of sitting with yourself a little bit more, rather than actually more of that teaching element. Yeah. But it was great. It was the most people we've ever had today.

And bringing just that, I don't know, a little bit like when we say we go and do our pottery thing that painting. Yeah. Nearly said making that pottery painting that we get together in. It was nice because, well, I've never done a vision board anyway. I've really been interested in them, but I never really knew where to start. they are so easy in terms of how you're making it.

It's just obviously what you're putting on it. You shouldn't have to overthink it. I think that's where I was thinking I was and I wasn't. In the moment, it was just really coming to me what I should be putting on there. And I think everyone was the same. Well, we kind of split things into categories, didn't we? So we provided all the images.

We split things into categories. So you had relationships, money, even like new house, affirmations, like all the things. And I think when you first start and you do your first one, and to be honest, this is definitely right up my street and I just never got around to doing one. But I think definitely with your first ones, it is not about overthinking it.

It's just about kind of doing it. And, you know, just for, in general, when you actually do, you create the clarity. And sometimes you think you need the clarity first before you do an action, but actually you gain it from just. starting. So, you know, just start picking things, cutting things out, whatever feels good in terms images or words and what resonates and you kind of stick it down. And I think your first vision

board should just be like that. Well, some people from your advice, um, bought or some stuff with them. So it was nice. A bit more personal. Yeah. So it was so it was nice that again, you've thinking ahead and knowing what you want to put on there. Yeah. Before kind of yeah. started. But for me, I was thinking, oh, no, I need this plan sort of thing. And in actual fact, it worked better for me to, in that day, to go with the flow. And it did. It was, it was, I think if you're new to kind of visualization and manifestation, then yeah, it's just about just trying it and not overthinking it and going with the flow. And what feels right. What feels right. And it will come to you. And kind of each time you do it, you can get deeper. And

there is different levels of manifestation and how deep you can get into it and people you know visualize every day what they want and the whole point of the board is so that you've got it in your house somewhere you can see it and to be reminded of the things that you say that you want will help you just in your day without realising make decisions that will align and get you closer to your goal but even I've done quite a few different manifestation um you know workshops and stuff like that and people go as deep as to say if you let's just say you know range rover is your dream car rather than just get a picture of it and put it on your vision board go to a showroom sit in the car smell it feel it like all your senses use all your senses like if you have this

dream property in mind like if it's a specific house actually go view it or knock on the door or if it's a type of house, you know, whether it's, I want a detached house or a six bedroom, whatever, go and actually see it. The more you can really use all your five sentences, then when you're visualising, it's more impactful because you know what the leather feels like. You know what the smell feels like. You can feel it. Because a lot of that is, it's not just thinking, wishing and hoping and it happens. But it's about creating it so that your mind is geared towards seeing more opportunities. So like you might say something to someone

and then that links to someone who they know and oh yeah, I can put you in touch with someone who can help you with that because you just actually, you've made it clear, you've said it and put it out there. And your mind is connecting you. So you're more aware of opportunities. But yeah, you can get quite deep with it.

And I think, yeah, just take it by bit by bit as you kind of learn bits more than you can just kind of apply it as you go. But yeah, I do think it worked really well. well, it was, it was lovely because we had a lovely dinner. Shout out to Derby's. Shout out to the two. The manager there and the waitress.

They were fab, not just the food was delicious. We all had a two-course meal that we actually had a personal menu created for us, which was really, really nice. I had the prawns, which was amazing and a shepherd's pie because it's not something I never have at home. But the food was great. but I think when you do events like this, it's all about the service and how well they take care of you. We didn't have to worry about the girls being looked after.

Yeah, basically. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, it ran really well. Again, where I said it was different, we had a lovely two-course dinner. And it was just more like how to, I say like crafty and chat.

Yeah. But obviously, again, it was like, on a serious, not on a serious level. It was deep, it was deep chat, but while doing something. And like you say, when you're crafting and you're making something, I think people, we're just meant to be creative people. Yeah. So you just feel so good and it's therapeutic.

So you actually feel really good at the end of it. And getting to chat and laugh and joke and hear other people's dreams and ambitions and, you know, what they've got going on and what they're doing to make it work inspires you and gives you the confidence, like, well, she can do it, I can do it, or even make connections of they can then help me achieve my job. Well, it is because it's nice, it can inspire you as well here in other things. And, oh, they have done it or they've done it or they want to still,

they want to do it like me in there, you know, and whatever. But I like to go around and seeing everyone's board as well and the true meaning of what was behind it. Because everyone was so different and brought so many different things. Yes. That is usually the best bit. Yeah. And, you know, we've done feedback forms.

We listened to our ladies so that we can always make each event bigger and better. Yeah. And yeah, that's what a lot of them said was their favorite part is the sharing. Yeah. So the learning bit is great, but actually just sharing with each other, like what they, like them to share, but also to hear other people share. It's the listening. Yeah. Like you say, and actually you feel like you don't want to share.

Like when you literally say, no, no, when someone says it to all no. But when it comes to it, it's actually really lovely. In a way, you can't wait for it because you're going around listening to everyone else. It's exciting to share like the dreams that you have and the ambitions and sometimes just saying it out loud gives you that confidence because it might have been something you've kept to yourself. But I think also the power comes from sharing the deep stuff and the stuff is not so great. And some of the ladies did do that. and the about being honest about where they are in that moment.

Where they are now, what they're going through right now. And, you know, there was so many women that was like, you know, I was there where you were, but I'm so many years down the line after going through a breakup or a business that didn't work or, you know, moving to a new country and making new friends that I've been there. It's so nice. And I think we even said this in Abby's episode. Like, it's one thing to give advice.

But when you receive advice from someone who's been where you've been, it's so much easier to believe them. And if you didn't, if you didn't, you know, let that out or be honest with the moment in sharing, you wouldn't have been able to hear that back. No. Which is important. Yeah.

You know what I mean? So it was good that everyone shared and listened and helped each other out. Yeah. Do you remember what was on your board? Well, I can remember some of it. I'm very picture. Yeah, photographic anyway. So mine's right in front of me when I get a picture.

the morning and the one that I literally comes out to me more than ever is the being more Charlotte. Yeah. Yeah. And that means and it doesn't mean we've just said this, not we before about feeling guilty with children's stuff. Yeah. Stupid things that you should feel guilty for. It's just because I don't mean like I've lost who I am, but you do a little bit

with being a mom, you know. You priority is your children. It is that, isn't it? It's your home and your family and your children and it's very easy. I don't mean just self-care because that's just one thing. I mean, actually who I am as Charlotte. You know, because there's some things I would probably have done as Charlotte but haven't because I'm like, let's just make me hold that in a bit.

I probably shouldn't do that or I shouldn't dress like that or I need to be responsible in this way or can't show the kids this and have to be a role model. Like there is a lot that you do keep in or dampen or don't. down a little bit, I think. But at the same time, what I'm being more Charlotte, is, is nothing, is nothing bad. No.

I should be showing my kids that. Yeah. But at the same time, I do think it's, I don't know if it's because it's the age of the children as well. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? I think for them to see who more I am,

rather than who mom is, because obviously when they're younger, it is, I don't know how to explain it, but do you get what I'm trying to say? A little bit. Like, so with, When they're younger, it's more, you're always mum, obviously. Yeah.

I'm always going to be their mom. But like when you're younger, again, you just think, well, no, don't do that, Charlotte. Don't do this. As they get older, I can feel like they understand while I do that. Yeah. So do you mean more like when they're little, you're basically just keeping them alive. So you're not having to second guess sometimes and they don't understand certain conversations. Whereas when they get older, it's like they're aware of how you react.

and how you deal with things and the way you talk and act in certain situations. Yeah, and just like, so, like we've said it before, we're just, everything is about them anyway, everything. And I just think, again, I don't know if it is an age, because they're older, that now I'm like, right, I need to do more for me. Yeah. I need to do more, you know, whether it's with my friends, whether it's with Mitch. Yeah.

Do you know what I mean? Whether it's just for myself or is it for my work, my career. you know and and if I'm more me yeah I will get there because if I'm in more mom mode I don't put me first yeah does that make sense and you kind of always put end up putting your children first anyway it's just one of those things but a lot of moms do park completely their ambitions their dreams their goals like I can't possibly do both and I've never And your mum's are okay with that. Yeah.

So if you want to be all in on your kids and you're happy to park that for five, 10, 15 years, do you? But some women want to try and do both and they don't want to completely give up, you know, their goals, their ambitions and their dreams. So it is really hard. I feel exactly the same that like, part of me is like, I want the kids to see me achieve things and do things and be like, that's my mum and be proud of me.

But if I'm constantly like trying to juggle and putting more time and effort in, just being around them and I don't miss certain things. Like I heard talking about, you know, growing up and kids and stuff, Hillary Duff, obviously, who's everywhere at the moment. Hey now. Hey now. That just really reminds me of me and you at 14. But yeah, she's a mum of four. she's been a little bit out of it I guess for a bit

she obviously has acted and sung and did a lot and I think she did a bit when she had her first kid but she's really went quiet from what we could see and she's just relaunched an album which is why she's everywhere and she's touring but she's still got quite young kids and even she said there are football games that I miss

there are shows that I miss I'm not there for bedtime every time every night but I'm there for a lot. Yeah. I'm there for most of it and the stuff that I miss, you know, it's real life. It shows the kids that they can't have everything they want all the time and they see me doing stuff for me and they see me achieving, you know, my goals, which is just as important as teaching them those lessons. And I think if she gets the right balance, then yeah.

Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Because at the same time I did see a video and it's true. We've always said it anyway. this is why we live the way we live and work, do you know what I mean? Yeah. And was about dads.

There is more value than to you than just bringing the money into the house. Yeah. If that makes sense. You miss so much time than from you going to work, work, work to provide for the family. Yeah. Rather than being with the family. Yeah. You know?

Definitely. And this is why I changed the way I work, anyway, which I don't regret that stays as it is because for me, I want to be at every match and every show and every whatever, but I don't think it's wrong that she is doing that by the way. Do you get what I'm saying at all? It's just I wouldn't, I wouldn't be happy in doing my concert say and not putting my kids to bed. I'd rather miss doing all that and put my kids to bed. The only thing that for me is because of how quick time I see time going my children. I think because obviously I've got an older child or an adult child or whatever that I know

how quick that time's going to go. And that time of that what I've got with them to what I've got with them. You know what I mean? Well yeah. I mean to what to what I've got after. You think you've got 18 years and then I read the other day that actually you pretty much got till their 12th. This is what I'm saying about the age thing so as much as I still want to be there every everything they're doing I just feel like they've they've all got their own routine and hobbies and life and not life again life in a way and I just feel like that they've all got their their things to do yeah and even just with us at home and family stuff and da da da da da um but I just don't have that little thing for me yeah you know what I mean like you know when we just to go to a dance club

for example, even just that. Maybe it's because we haven't been here for a while. Yeah. No, you're right. You know, like that feeling, I just want Charlotte back as in, you know, because they're younger and everything is about their days and what they're doing and, you know, when they're feeding and when they're eating and whatever it is, you know what I mean? I feel like, well, I know what they're doing now.

They all know what they're doing now in their lives. You know, I can do their own sort of, I need to take and drop them and be there, obviously, for whatever it is. Yeah. I can fit my little schedule, whatever it is, into that. Yeah. You know, and I do think it's important. I wouldn't want to be as, I wouldn't,

but this is where I'm not pushing, I'm trying. You're also not trying to be a pop star. But I'm good, that is true. But, you know, when I said about work, there's so much ideas I've got with my work and career that I just want to go for. Yeah. But that takes a lot of time. Yeah.

So for you, you've got that balance and you're happy to put some of it on pause. So it's a little bit like this. This is probably the way I'm, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I'm, I'm really bad of explaining this. It just shows how we don't plan our chats, doesn't it? Yeah. But like how when they're younger, it's more like this with you and the children, if you not what I mean.

And as they're getting older, you can kind of balance that out, whereas obviously it's kind of half and half, you know, like with their lives and your schedule, if that makes sense. It's not your separate lives, but you still need your own time. Well, and then when they're getting even older, even that more time comes for you again. That's probably the best way I've explained it. No, it's true because like I say at the ages that Kaysen and Hayden, they're constantly around us.

Kaysen has a couple hobbies, but generally our time is spent together. But as they get older, which is why I said that I've read that you usually have until about 12, because then they just love to be around like mum and dad and family, but then

gradually friends take over the priority. And I'd be worried if they didn't. Yeah, no, it's part of life. It's just natural. I'd be worried if my teenager just wanted to be in all the time and didn't want to go out with his mates, that would be worrying, wouldn't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's just knowing it and like you say placing, knowing that things will change eventually.

How many times have I say to you, I'm just at a different stage with the ages of the kids. And it really is that. But how quick it goes is unbelievable. So like that, I think that's just where I'm at the minute. Rather than that yet, I'm still like this. You know what I mean? And that's where be more Charlotte.

That's what I see more. And I'm trying. I'm definitely trying. some examples of what you want to do that will help you tick that box. So again, I've said this a million times to you. Everyone's got the own thing in the house and I've got nothing. So obviously Mitch is with a gym and he's with his motorbike crew. That sounds really sad.

But you know what I mean? You know, whatever it's called. And obviously, I say Mason, he's an 18-year-old. He just won't really wants to do. But, you know, like he's got his thing with his gym and all that kind of thing. He's working, studying. He's college. and he's driving and everything else is what going on, yeah.

And obviously the other two have got their, all their hobbies that they do, do you know what I mean? Their friends and all of that. They've got obviously the weekend schedules and sleepovers and, yeah, all that kind of thing. And I just don't feel like I really have anything. No. You know, like, and I want to, I'm such an active person.

I mean, look for my head. I don't want to know. It's got to be like, come on, let's go. It's fun. And we're going to buttlings, God's day. you know like that is I'm not a person who wants to sit around and do nothing and I I want to do so for example it would be that like a even go into that reformer Polaro's reformer I mean since I'm a bit scared I am now seeing like the videos of people stupid videos exactly but it probably would happen to me but something like that but even like a coffee morning like you know with your with your friends and just making the time unless unless you unless you plan it, it won't happen. Yeah. Well, this is very easy to just sort everybody else out. And then when you do have a

pocket of time, it's like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, this is like again, um, actually today I managed, because I said to some of the girls, I am not waiting to do my empire to see you. That is ridiculous. Do you know what I mean? Because we just never see each other. So we did, we managed to say, okay, we'll meet in the morning for a coffee at my house sort of thing. And, um, lovely. Turned out Lex is not very well so she's at home obviously um and and then I'm more obviously aware of obviously Lex is there you know what I mean so it's not like we are chatting but obviously we're not because we're careful of what you're saying we still have a child in the house if you know what I mean um and then I feel bad if I ask it to go into a room why why am I feeling

how many times are we tired yeah get out of the room this is adult conversation like no and then I felt bad because because obviously recording just ended up being a little bit later because I went over the time of it. And then she has to go in the car to go and pick her brother at. So it's like, say, a 45 round trip, minute trip. And I'm feeling bad for her to do that. Like, why?

Why? Yeah. It's stupid. Really stupid. So, yeah, just getting to that balance. That's what I can see on my vision board. Yeah. That was one.

Can you imagine if I have to explain all of them. Good job. Got it. No, it's a good one though. And I think a lot of women can relate to losing themselves a little bit. Yeah, it's quite a complex. It's not just being more Charlotte because it's a bit of both of being more Charlotte in how I'm behaving as well. You know what I mean?

I don't mean like a. Yeah. And that side of it, you know, of my own hobbies, I suppose. I think it's good to have hobbies and stuff to do. Do you know what I mean? of your stuff to fill in the diary rather than everybody else is. Yeah.

You know, so it's a bit of a mixture of that. And you do end up last in the list. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was my one that I definitely see every day. Yeah. When I'm woke up. So mine's got a bit of all different stuff in it. And again, it's after when you look back,

you're like, oh, I didn't put anything of this on or that on. But yeah, I mean, I've got here our logo, the rising growing together. So, you know, keep building that up. I've got a quote that I love, which is feel the fear and do it anyway. Yeah. You do like that one. Yeah, I like that one. Use your power and make an impact.

Yeah. I've got a few things that are around the thing of I get paid for being me, create the life of your dreams. I'm a positive force in the world. Those kind of things are related to, like, work and, destined for greatness, boss bay kind of thing. I put quality family time as well. I feel like we spend a lot of time together with, you know,

having Fridays off and Liam working for himself. We do spend a lot of physical minutes and hours together, but sometimes we're quite disconnected even in the same room. I had that. I had time and then quality and massive because you're right. We've done all this. We've trained, you know, like our lifestyle as in, you know, working less and, you know, earning less for that reason to have time because that's more

precious to us at the moment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like I'm always going, should we do this guy? Should we do that? And then everyone's like, I should just make them. Do you don't mind doing it? Mine go, mm. And then when it's bedtime, oh, no, no, no, no, no. You missed your opportunity. That was hours ago. Yeah, yeah. You know, so we've done, because when we're doing it, we're, we're bloody love it. Yeah. No, Cason's the saying Cason, if you ask him to do anything, no. But when I do, and sometimes I do make him, he ends up having a good time.

And to be fair, it is sometimes on the other side, not just the kids, it is us too sometimes. I have to be honest, because there is, sometimes it's just not the right moment, to be fair, and sometimes maybe I'm just being a bit lazy. Yeah. I'll be sure. No, I think I'm definitely lazy.

There's definitely times where I've sat there and I'm like, like, Hayden's playing and, and, you know, doing whatever. Kaysen's on his switch. Liam's watching stuff on his phone. I should really stop this right now. But I'm like, I haven't got it in me to get everyone up and to do something right now.

So I do, in their moments, start to feel guilty, but I do try to tell myself, do you know what, today's up the day? Sometimes, yeah, exactly that. As long as you're aware that it's not happening all the time. It is becoming more and more regular, so I'm definitely starting to like change. That word again, balance, guys. Yeah, it is really. It is.

It is. When you talk about, it's all about balance. Yeah. I've also put on here, and so the adventure begins. We've got a few plans and things that we want to do. We unfortunately were supposed to go on holiday to Dubai, which, good thing we didn't, with everything that's happened. And obviously with, you know, bombs and war and God knows what Trump's doing.

But we did in the... moment just rebook our flights for April which felt so far in advance from February and now that is in well it's two weeks. Two weeks. It's in literally about three weeks. So whether or not that happens who knows. But yeah, it's just kind of it's just nice to look at things and just remind yourself. I've got girl time on here. I've got keynote speaker. I want to do some events and like not just our events but I would actually like to get up and do some like motivational speaking and stuff. like that and yeah good i again what i'm trying to think what else i had i put i found a word that said thriving so i put 30 plus flirty and thriving those uh millennials will know what i'm talking

about um yeah no i think i'm trying to think what else i had on to me is a lot of mine was to do with with family uh quality the quality time obviously i'm getting married this year um and just remembering what's what that's about yeah you know it's not good getting lost in the wedding plan and reminding yourself what it is. Yeah. Yeah. And it's about us. It's about us too. Yeah. It's just two. You know? Um, so yeah, just reminding ourselves that. Um, and, and I also had connection. Connection inspire women. Um, very on brand for our events. I know, because I love it. I love, I love everything we do, whether it's here or with the events or, you know, other ideas that we want.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I love the guests. I mean, it does make me miss talking, obviously. I'm not going to lie. We'll have to just get another chair because you've got a mic. We just don't have a chair. So we've got space in here. We might have to just rearrange the furniture for when we have guests. I do. I love having our guests on. So yeah, it was good. Event was good. Vision boarding was good. It was nice to see new faces. It was nice to see. We did. We had about three or four new ladies. Yeah. Well, probably more actually, maybe about six or six or something.

new people. Yeah. And a few women that came completely on their own. So if you are watching this and you thought, is it for me, is it not for me? If you just want to be around women and, you know, whether that is a casual connection, whether it's something you want help with, business, inspire. Yeah, it's just a really nice environment. And don't worry if you don't have anyone to come with because a lot of women did come

completely by themselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that. So, yeah, on to the next. Yeah. Yeah. plan the next one. Yes.

We've put some feelers out, haven't you, to see what people... Yeah, so if you missed it, I put polls on my stories just to kind of check in with what day people prefer, what time of day, whether they liked the more of the fun, crafting casual connections or whether they liked the deep ones for the people that came to both. And generally, the overall consensus was Saturday afternoons and a mixture of both. so people do kind of want to learn and take stuff away, but they also want the sharing and the talking and the casual. Well, I know what I want to do for our next one. Yeah? Yeah, I'm not going to say on here.

Oh, I'm going to say on here. Keep you in suspense. I think I've mentioned it anyway, but I definitely, I know what I think. You'll have to not forget and tell me after we start recording. I won't forget. I think I've already mentioned it to you. I can't remember. But we went out. We're just thinking we went out together, didn't we?

we? When? We went to the Peaky Blinder place. Yeah, we went for a drink and then had a curry. Yeah, that was nice getting together. I was making an effort and doing something. And that was with about an hour's notice. Because it was just me and Mitch.

We tagged along on your date. I thought, okay, I'm going here if you want to come. I'm like, okay, I got a baby sit. I don't even know if you invited me. I invited myself. But it was nice. It's doing those kind of things. Yeah.

But going back to the board. Makes me think, obviously, talking about being more Charlotte and da-da-da-da-da, whatever, what would, how different would the board be then, if I did one when I was younger, kind of thing, to now. Yeah. And what, well, just praise what my younger self would think of me now. Yeah. It's crazy. Like when you think back to us watching Lizzie McGuire movie, dancing around the living room to what dreams.

are made of. Yeah. To if they could have a glimpse of what we've got now. Yeah. I think they're pretty impressed. Were either made from a card. I mean, I don't know if anyone had these. There were cards that you had to scratch off to dial in the number on your phone.

Yeah. To get cheaper calls. This is probably more for people that lived here. You had like a card with a bit of credit, didn't you? Yeah. To make international calls with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we also had.

have WhatsApp. No, no, no. We had MSN. Yeah, MSN. We had MSN. And we had, we had to count if we wanted to text because obviously it cost. Yeah, you could go on. You couldn't go on to two page. So that's, remember how we used to write, like, short and in words so much. That's why we ended up writing like that, wasn't it? And then we also had, well, here, in Spain, anyway, we had, I don't what it's called in English, Locatorios. Like an internet cap, isn't it? Yeah, it is. That's it. An internet cat. I remember even going to Thailand on holiday and me and Liam had just started dating and obviously we didn't have phones or we wouldn't have had credit to call internationally. Like definitely not. So I would find an internet cath in Thailand and sit and used to write on MSN to him.

That was it. I used to go to that for my MSN and international calls in them little cube boxes to do your calls. Do you remember when you used to connect. to the internet and if you were to get a phone or text message come through it would make a noise and you knew before your phone would ring oh the good old days

yeah I remember that hours spent sat on MSN yeah and you'd have like your tagline and you'd like the people that did it with all the fancy it's the noise as well for me you know like the noise it made like obviously when someone pops up and then you were little mojis

like the original ones yeah that sort of stuff and then it moved on, didn't it? It moved on to like Bebo. Was that? That was like the early social pages really. Yeah. No, I think we had MSN first.

Then we had a Bebo page where, yeah, you'd have like a profile picture and like you'd make friends and stuff. God, I dread to think what was on there. I know. I don't feel like we had that for long though and then Facebook come out. I was really trying to hold back with that. I thought Facebook was for older people. Well, yeah, because we had Bebo.

And there was also another thing that was MySpace. And there was like Tumblr as well, which I think we're a bit too old with Tumblr. I think that'll come out a bit later. But yeah, no, I didn't, I don't think my mum signed me up for Facebook. Oh, there you go. Yeah, she created me a Facebook account and I think I was 18. So, yeah. There you go.

Yeah, all them days. But no, thinking about it, I think, I think I've said this before. Or actually it might have been something that we spoke at the event out actually, about being kind of questioned as a young mum. It was something that I never questioned as myself. I knew I'd smash that sort of thing. It was the other stuff in life that I don't think I thought I would struggle with. Yeah.

Like your career? Yes. So actually my younger self would probably be quite surprised of the career path I'm in. and that I'm good at my job. I think, yeah, no, I think out of everyone, you've probably had the biggest change in terms of like, we all mature because we know each other for so long,

so we're all going through like big life changes as we go, so we're not going to be the same people. Of course not. But I think out of everyone, you have changed and considering out of all of us when we were younger, you were the most outspoken, you were the most confident, you were the most fun, like, you're still those things,

but obviously at a 35-year-old, you're just the same as a 14-year-old. No, that's what I mean. I'm a lot more... You're more cautious, you know, thought, think things through, whereas that comes naturally with age. I know it is age as well, but it's definitely... You would have expected you to have dialed some of those things down a little bit,

but I think you've gone quite a bit the other way. That's with just, obviously, life experiences that have... have changed my me as well sometimes you know and things that you develop with things that you go through and whatever else um but i know i'm more like that to be fair yeah um so there's nothing wrong with it no there's definitely nothing wrong with it but sometimes certain things i might not be happy with how far i've gone with that and i might want to yeah yeah i think i've i've always been quite a serious person but i think like even just talking about about being a mum.

Like, I feel like I'm, I'm parenting. I want to be more fun and do more fun stuff. So the kids can see a different side of like, it's not just, oh, you're an adult and you're a parent. But like, like, I'm fun. Yes. That's what I feel like sometimes with my kids that I must be a bit more charlotte because I have fun.

My parents are, I'm being honest. I know they do. I think a lot of people probably feel like that. You know, you're the rule set out and you have to make sure the kids do the right things and teaching them lessons and, you know, making sure that they're clean and doing all the eating the right foods and stuff so it can be boring

for a parent so it is nice to remember to be silly and just roll around on the floor and have fun and put the music on and dance around the living room because sometimes I don't you know I don't let myself go you know but but as as a younger one

I think my younger self would definitely I don't think I would have I'd be surprised how I am as a mum, to be honest. I could see that. That wasn't really a question for me. I think, oh yeah, no, I knew she'd be like that as a mum sort of thing. But I think my younger self would say where I've got to with my career,

oh wow, I didn't expect you to do that and you're smashing that. Well done. And you're actually really enjoying it because it's all right. Being in a career or having a job. But if you don't enjoy it, what's the point? And a lot of people fall into work is the first job that they get or they didn't really think much about it or it's what they studied for and what they thought they'd want to do like i always thought it was going to be a lawyer yeah um and i even enrolled to do

a law degree yeah and changed it very quickly when i realized how much reading i had to do yeah and that's not for me but yeah like even the career i'm in i've definitely landed in a place now that i feel is very aligned with like what i enjoy yeah what i'm good at but i would never have thought I'd end up working in a currency company. But it's all about learning anyway. I think we all think we know. And some people, that's it and that's that. Some people know what they want to do.

And that's my dream. And even Mason, like, he's going into a specific vocation. So, like, you know your job is going to be that because you've chosen that career path. But he never knew he wanted to do that. No, until he started. And literally, until he started, actually practically the job. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Does that the word? I think it's because I'm thinking Spanish. But you know what I mean? And it was a little bit like that for me in my work, to be honest. Yeah. So I think that's what my, would your younger self be surprised with anything, do you think? I think we would have both been surprised that we're still with Liam and Mitch just because it's not normal to meet someone that young and still be together.

Yeah, you're right. I kind of always thought, yeah, I would have, you know, quite a stable life. So, yeah, kind of the thing. to day to day life, I think is quite similar to maybe what I pictured. I always knew I'd be in like a corporate job. So that doesn't surprise me. But yeah, like the actual job and and then what is kind of leading to and what I'm starting outside of it.

And, you know, would never have thought I'd be a podcast post. And I'd be, yeah, doing some of the things that I'm doing. Yeah. So, no, I think that I think we would both be happily impressed to go. Yeah, I'd be happy with that. life thing? Yeah, yeah. I do. Yeah, I do, which is nice. So, yeah, it's kind of like impressing your younger self. Yeah, exactly. And if it doesn't, then... And that we're still friends. Do something... Yay!

We are. That's not. That's before the boys. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. We were, I think I've seen this on, I must be on wedding things because obviously, just, just what happens, isn't it? When you start looking at stuff, it always comes up. Something like they, they were, what if I can't think what have it? says it now probably says it. You came before the guy. Yeah, they were there before him basically. You know what I mean?

And it is true. I'm getting married but I can't do it without you. Yeah, like they were there before him, you know? So that is a point to be fair. Yeah. And like a lot of our friendship group. Yeah. Still still together.

So yeah, no, it's nice to kind of not just look at what we want to do, but yeah, reflect on kind of, yeah, our youngest. and where we want to get to. And, you know, life has lots of surprises and ups and downs. And, yeah, I think it's just nice to have stuff to look forward to and have plans and be, you know, sometimes pleasantly surprised that some of the plans don't work out. Exactly.

And again, it all stages, I think. You know, we're talking about our younger selves and obviously what now and da-da-da-da. I'm also excited and where we're in even different stages with our children. Yeah. That makes sense. But I'm also so excited so excited for our future stages because like you're saying with us is even just us as couples or us as friends, you know, that's another stage in life when all our children are off with their own life.

Yeah. That's another stage of life. You know what I mean? I've still got this big block in the middle yet. Yeah. But that's exciting. Yeah. You know, so.

So, yeah, visually. Vision boarding was good. I do like looking at mine every day, to be honest. I'm trying. Like I said, I did a coffee morning this morning, so that was a tip. Girl time. Yeah. I've got our girls' weekend away, celebrating me getting married.

Your hendoo. I don't know why you can't say hendoo. I can. Girls trip because I get married. Yeah, it just really makes me giggles saying about that. I think I said it to a patient the other day. I just like seeing people's face trying to work it out, right? I'm very excited for it

and one thing I'm happy to see the back of is looking at Sheen every bloody day for this stupid naughty outfit that I'm so over but still can't help but look every day Yeah so there's one outfit that is 2000's outfit isn't it? Yeah. Fancy dress should I say I mean it's quite difficult because we're all still

kind of in that It's coming back around It is coming back around like a modern version of it Whereas we want to go cheesy And make it more fancy dress, I think, the point of it, in a way for us. Yeah, I'm not trying to look cool. Bear in mind, all the outfits, Bill's has shown us so far have been like that. But Bill just has a little bit more think about it.

I've got too much time. Honestly, between when we started looking. The comment you made earlier about, I've actually put more thought into this than my wedding dress. Yeah. That's actually true. I've actually spent more time on Sheen than the entire process of such of my own wedding dress. made me giggle because I thought that's how I was going to be just because, you know what I mean? Like it's my, it's my hair and I want to look good at.

And I literally was like, no, it's done. You've ordered one outfit and never gone back. And even, you're like, oh, that's some parts of it's not going to. Yeah, I'm not thinking about it. No, it is. I'm not even going. I wish I did that. Just go.

Just go. Yeah. So yours is hopefully. Well, I've ordered, I don't even know what number of outfit am I now, but I've done another order last night, which is due to arrive the day before we leave. so we will just have to bring a thing and then you haven't got a choice yeah really I've got one outfit

and then it's either that or that yeah so so yeah that'll be fun not long to go for that now I suppose in a few weeks time you'll be hearing all about it yeah because it's literally in two weeks on aren't it yeah so that'd be nice getting together the other one no it'd be fun

lots to look forward too. So yeah. To be continued. Yeah. Well, we definitely want to be doing, getting our fourth event out there, don't we? Yeah, well, before you know, like I say, it's going to be the end of March. I may or may not be going away to Dubai, depending on the world. Yes. Early April. So, yeah, I'd say keep your eyes peeled for end of April.

Yeah. It would be a good time, I think. So, yeah. Yeah, in the meantime, we definitely will be getting in chatting in a way. I really missed it. Really, really missed. coming in and recording the two of us. Obviously, I know in between we've had our guests. And the kids are desperate to record as well. So we will do a kids episode.

I keep actually seeing it and I'm like, they keep asking. So we will have a kids episode. So you will all get to see more of Lexi and Kaysen doing their things. Watch everyone love them more than us. Probably. We'll get loads of subscribers that week. All right, guys. Well, yeah, stay safe.

And we will catch you next week. You will. Have a lovely day.