The Rising’s Growing Together Podcast - Wedding Planning, Honeymoon Dreams & The Pressure Let’s Talk Love & Laughter @TheRising1111 Ep 4

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

In this episode of Growing Together, Billie and Charlotte dive headfirst into the world of weddings from wild proposal stories and hen party chaos to heartfelt reflections on what really matters when you say “I do.”They talk about the pressure to please others, how weddings have evolved, and why it’s so important to follow your heart (not the crowd). You’ll hear thoughts on intimacy in marriage, balancing fun vs relaxation when planning events, and the biggest honeymoon regrets or wins. Plus they wrap it all up with a hilarious round of Mrs. & Mrs., revealing even more about their friendship and dynamic. Follow us: www.linktr.ee/therising1111 New episodes every Friday Hosted by Billie & Charlotte best friends, ambitious mums, and career women bringing you honest chats on life, love, and everything in between. #WeddingPlanningPodcast #marriagetalks #honeymoonideas #HenPartyChaos #MrsAndMrsGame #growingtogetherpodcast #LoveAndLaughter #realtalkrelationships #ProposalStories #weddingmemories

Welcome back. Before we start, I just want to say thanks to everyone who's subscribing, liking, commenting. We're feeling the love, aren't we? It's great. Thank you. So, yeah, excited to keep it going. So what have we been up to? A lot. We've been, yeah. You've been away together. We have. We've actually done lots lately together. We have. We have been to Titt Leeds. Yeah. We went back to Tit Leeds for one of our friend's wedding. Yay, congratulations. So, and second wedding, really, because we did another wedding together in September for another friend of us.

So it has been the seasons of weddings lately. And I went to one in August. So. Yeah, we have. And I actually missed out one in May because I was about three weeks away from giving birth. So that would have been four weddings that I would have had to go to. But now, we went to our friends in Leeds. So it was a bit cold.

I was all prepped with my duvet coat. My duvet coat. You already freezing. But no, it was lovely. And it was, it was really nice because it was very untraditional. Yeah. She did it in her own way, what she wanted. Well, actually, she didn't want to send any of this there originally.

Yeah. Originally, it was just going to be them. Then it was just really close friends and family. So it's been quite nice to, obviously, because you'll be planning yours for next year. It's another experience. Yeah. You know, everyone does it differently. And I think what's nice now is that everyone really is kind of thinking what is good for me, what do I want, rather than kind of just going down the traditional route.

So, yeah, it's nice that there's been quite unique experiences. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So, out of us. Yeah. Yeah. You've said a few times over the times how you probably change things or not do something or do something. Yeah. You know, it's always. Definitely. there's um so i've was it eight years i've been married now i think eight years you're asking me

yeah lexie's eight yeah exactly it's very easy because you had a what a three week hold at my wedding so uh my dress was custom made all the day i'd be able to breastfeed yeah so that's very easy actually so yeah however old lexies is how long we've been married so yeah eight years um and i loved my wedding I really, really did, the kind of venue, the location, it just, the minute I visited it, it just gave me real nice, you know, just happy, chill vibe. From that bit to that bit to that bit. Yeah, where I'm at with it. Yeah, yeah, because the venue that we had was really cool because we had the ceremony on the beach.

Then we went upstairs to kind of like the room where we had our sit-down meal, which had, you know, glass view all out over the beach and the marminore. and then we went down and they had like a separate room for like the disco so it was nice and small and had a bar and everything so yeah i i wouldn't change my wedding but i would change certain things around my wedding for sure and even leading up to it like um some bits of like the hendoo and stuff like that so yeah the main things i probably would change about my wedding is guests so i've definitely given everyone that's got married after me this advice yeah what like over inviting people over invite people

yeah people that should not have been invited um i think in the end if i actually tally up everyone who i invited it was probably over a hundred we had about 80ish i think guests in the end yeah um way too many yeah way way too many it's hard because i think you know i'm a proper people pleaser and i think i'm getting better at that as i get older but obviously i was 26 i think when we got married or 25 i think i was 10 26 um so yeah back then I was definitely a people pleaser and the guest list just kept growing and growing but you know me and Liam have quite big families so by the time you invite your families then our friendship group then even some you know friends of parents and things plus ones

plus ones you have to give plus ones yeah really well that's the other thing it's like I think these are things that you now question and you think about and the more people I'm talking to about their weddings they're like well I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm I just kind of went along with this is how weddings are. Yeah. And you just pick the, you know, your style, but then you still have all the things. Yeah. But yeah, guest lists would definitely have probably been halved.

I don't think we really needed more than 50 to 60 people, to be honest. I think I think people just automatically assume that if they're friends with you and they know you that they should come to the wedding. But weddings are really personal. I think it should only be your close, close, like friends and family. Like people that if they told you, oh, I can't come, I can't make it, that you would be genuinely gutted. Not, oh, thank God, that's just saved me a person per head, you know? Yeah, yeah, exactly that. So I think, yeah, guest list I would definitely redo.

The sit-down meal wasn't really something that we originally planned. It was just kind of what the venue offered. In the end, I think it worked out okay. But, yeah, we kind of thought maybe we would do, yeah, more of maybe. like a buffet thing or I think it suited the venue if we had different venue that maybe we would have gone down the route of like um you know different trucks and things but again you don't have the options much here do you know and they're like you say there's they're the things that you add up that yeah yeah yeah yeah in the end up well yeah because we had the sit down meal

I mean luckily the the venue that we had um they've been doing weddings for a little bit but not for a long long time and they've won awards and everything since so we have actually had a really good price per head for the dinner and it was like a three-course dinner included beer and wine and drinks and stuff like that so yeah it actually was okay but then we added on the evening buffet then we added on a free bar and again genuinely because it was quite you know well-priced catering to everyone yeah more so yeah in a way william doesn't even drink so yeah pay for everyone to get drunk but yeah I think like I say it was the good thing is is it was within our means.

It was obviously something we had to save up for. But I don't feel like it put us out. I don't feel like it stressed us. Yeah, there's people who put themselves in debt for years, don't I? Like, really. And if that's worth it, that's fine. Some people, all they've ever dreamed of is their weddings. So obviously they're going to put a lot into it.

For me, sometimes it causes two bosses. Exactly. It can do, you know, the pressure that it puts you under. I mean, we were really lucky that, you know, both parents, contributed towards a wedding that took a massive edge off and then we didn't go I don't think we went silly like there was loads of extra things we could have had that we didn't have I think Liam kind of reeled me in a little bit there

but do you know when you say about parents there is people who I'm not married so I can say what I want really there is people who presume that parents should pay which I don't agree with no I really don't agree with I think that... And especially not the bride's side. No, any presumption of anything. Do you know what I mean?

At the end of the day, you're the one deciding to get married. Yeah. So you should be the one that can afford it. Yeah, yeah. If they're willing to help you out and gift you something, then that's a bonus. Do you know what I mean? That's amazing. Yeah, that's just over it.

I just wanted to put that thing on that because I know a few occasions I've heard of different things happening with... Yeah. Or just hear you in a comment like, oh yeah. And I think, yeah. Yeah, no, I don't. think parents should have the assumption. No, exactly.

I mean, I would love to help my kids out with their wedding. I would. And I would, who would want to if I could at the same time? That's, that's it as well. Like, especially the assumptions on parents when they are not in a position to help. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, even if they are. But yeah, it's just, yeah.

But yeah, just that assumption. But then that's a lot in general life assumption people, right, new things, isn't it? Set yourself up for disappointment. But no. So, yeah, apart from that, really. I think even like the little things of like bridesmaids and stuff like that, I mean, Liam didn't have groomsmen, but I had bridesmaids. Yeah.

And again, I wouldn't necessarily change it, but I think it probably would take the pressure off, especially like even I spoke in, you know, in the last couple of weeks to someone planning theirs. And then it's like, don't want to offend them, don't want to offend them. And it's like, it's your wedding, but you don't ever feel like you can make your own decisions. But it's kind, especially if you want to keep everybody happy. It comes out of being about. the people who are, they're getting married. Yeah.

It becomes about everybody else, whether they're happy with the dress or whatever they agree on the hairstyle or whatever it is. It's not about, you know, what it's about or it should be about. Exactly. Well, so it seemed. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And, I mean, you've mentioned you're not having bridesmaids.

I'm not having any of that. That really takes the pressure off. And I think all these things that people are kind of changing their mind on just really brings you back to the reason why you're getting married. in the first place. Like, I shouldn't have had a cake. Me and Leam don't eat cake. We literally cut it, have a photo.

Didn't you say, was your knife still left in it? The cut was still in it. So we went back the next day because I took some personalised things for like centrepiece and stuff. So she bagged it all up for me. So I went back the next day. The whole cake with the knife cut was still there because in the sit down menu, it provided desserts.

I even got a girl that I worked with to make new cupcakes for the buffet. So I had cupcakes. literally I paid 100 quid for this cake and that was cheap because it was a friend of our's cousin so she'd give me a good price still 100 quid wasted and we don't even eat cakes so why the hell do we even get why it's like one of these things that you think you should that's what I mean yeah didn't even cross my mind that I could not have a cake it's weird yeah I knew I wasn't going to spend a lot of money on a cake and it wasn't going to be this big fancy thing I knew that yeah but like you say you even then you tried to do it in the least way

possibly and he just shows how it just felt like a bit of a waste but um no like I say I loved my wedding I enjoyed it I think you know everyone was really surprised at how chill I was yeah you was um was even leading up to it and even on the morning even trying to get you out the bloody door yeah come on everybody's waiting no no I told them to get early I'm not late okay yeah okay that's always me laugh actually because people do say to me you were so late I'm like I put a 30 minute buffering on purpose because I know what some of my guests were like So I told everyone be there for three because I was always planning. I think it was three.

And then I was coming out at half three, whichever time it was. But yeah, I gave myself half an hour. It was just because it was so bloody hot. Everyone was. I had these people going, you've got to go. And then you're like, no, we don't. We're fine. Okay.

We were pretty much on time. I mean, I think the only thing that slowed us down was the makeup and stuff. Because obviously the makeup eyes had, she went to you lot first, then come to mine. and then Rick had a problem with her eye I think and then she had to sort her eye out quick as we were walking out the door so yeah I think yeah the makeup artist just had too many people to do that morning otherwise we would have been plenty well we weren't even late we weren't even late but yeah um yeah I mean most people are really late but I was actually on time

for all them people that think I was late I was exactly that but no I had a really really good time I enjoyed it um I think it was a good balance between not being too early, not being too late in the day. Because that was the thing. It would be nice to have like a sunset and just like a buffet or something casual. But then I was like, but then I only have the wedding day that's like five hours. So then I wanted longer. So yeah, there's just so many decisions. But I would have, I would have liked to have got married now in in the sense that I feel like I would be able to make a little bit more decision. I mean, I love, like I say, I loved my wedding. It was coming up. It was definitely us. I don't think

we like say we it was well within our means we saved up a little bit but it didn't break the bank no but we were reasonable looking back you would other if i got married when i first met it would have been completely different if like i'd say now wouldn't it it's only the fact that yeah i've i've gone through like experiences of going to different well i was one of the first out of our friends i think out of other friends i'd only been to two weddings before that a friend from college and a friend from here um so yeah i didn't really really have that much kind of, you know, ideas for it. Well, no, because you, like you say, you go forward in thinking, thinking, or whatever,

the traditional way, you get this, you have a cake, you do this, you do this, so that's what you do. So you're throwing all the traditions out of the window. I am keeping some. I am keeping some. Because some people, more recently, actually, are doing like a father-daughter dance and a couple of those other traditions. So what are you thinking?

Well, because it's just going to be... me, my five, and our parents and our siblings and their children, my nieces and nephews. It's, like I said, well, I've got no bridesmaids. I don't, well, I've got my flower girl, which is my daughter and Mitch has got his best man, which are our son. So, yeah, that's that. Obviously, originally I thought I wanted all of this, you know, but it's not all just about me either. I am married someone else. And actually, I do one more what he would prefer, which is the, if he had his way, we'd fly somewhere.

Go Vegas. Yeah, exactly that. We'd do that and that'd be it. So, yeah, we came to the agreement of having, you know, who's important, not that obviously he's not important, but just, you know, of that. We don't need everyone's eyes and whatever else for that. That's extra pressure as well. That's one thing. And that's something.

The pressure, exactly that. And I felt that, well, and Mitch felt that we wouldn't be us in exchanging our bells with so many people there watching, you know. You know, it's just really nerve-wracking. You don't really think about that bit. I think the bride thinks about walking down the aisle. And it was only when I actually got there that I was like, oh my God, this is a bit awkward. Everyone's staring at me.

Because Liam was emotional. Liam was emotional. Well, before you see. Yeah, wasn't he? So even thought of, well, that threw me because for everyone that knows Liam, like, threw us all, he got us all. I think I can count on one hand the amount of times I've seen him cry and did not expect him to get emotional. But it wasn't, it wasn't just a.

It was really emotional. It was a proper man. So, yeah, when I saw it. He was being forced. True. He definitely wasn't. He had 10 years to back out to get him 10 years before we done it. But yeah, that threw me because I did not expect it.

And then when I saw him, that's what choked me up, actually. So I was holding it together pretty well. And then I was like, oh my God. And then I was thinking, make up, make up. Don't cry, don't cry. So yeah, that threw me. But yeah, it must be a lot. Because the guys have to stand there and watch everyone and wait.

Yeah. And then watch the people go down before. And then I've seen a few like TikTok videos that are like, you know, the guy's perspective of like waiting. they see their kids first like obviously we didn't have kids at the time but then I would think that made me think of you and Mitch because obviously you'll have your kids there like imagine Mitch trying to hold it together with the kids coming down or dress that smart like yeah yeah so that is that is a lot of pressure yeah it's so so yeah um you know talking over what

what we really want and what it's really about yeah so you know getting married is about us to at the end of the day um which goes on to talking about honeymoons because obviously our kids think that are coming on a honeymoon? No, no, no, no. That's just this too. Family holidays, a family holiday. Honeymoon is just rest here, okay? That's good, though, because I think a lot of parents that have kids

probably have that toss up between, are they coming on the honeymoon? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because some parents... Yeah, some parents take theirs, but I think it's nice for you. No, no, that's time, but you two have basically been parents as you've been together, so you need a honeymoon to yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like our first date night all over again. Well, you don't have much opportunity to go away together. You normally, whenever you have time to do holidays, you always eat for kids.

We do. We do. We love that. But I just think that's what I'm saying. You've got to think of what it's about, what marriage is about, you know. And usually the way is that you do meet someone, you get married and then get house, then have children. I'm just saying, you know, that I think originally it was because you weren't supposed to actually live together first. So that's why your gifts were all pots and pansy.

And it's like that. Exactly. But then obviously, a lot more recently, you end up living together before we get married. Things changed. Yeah. And the way. Why was completely not by the book or whatever you want to say. So yeah, so that was, so when we'd kind of, you know, gone down to the point of right, actually, yeah, we don't want any of this.

Yeah. That's when when we agreed we were going to, you know, have our, have our wedding bowels, you know, which is the most. important of everything of just us and then of course we want to have a celebration yeah don't ask me yet because I don't know what's happening yet but um so yeah the plan is to have close immediate family to to do like the ceremony and the actual getting married and then you have the big celebration which is where you invite your friends yeah yeah yeah so no one panic because like I'm talking like everything's planned and yet it's really not I have a day but I don't have a date so just chill okay well it was nearly planned about a week ago it was nearly planned and

everyone would have had, like, invites and, well, save the dates, whatever you want to call it. But going back to that, we knew what we wanted and I found the venue and that was great. And then everything just gets on top of you and gets, like, sold to you. Like, you know, and I pay. Well, these are the only options for pick, right, but it's not what you're envisioned. Yeah. So, so, yes, I did pay the deposit. There were like three days there.

I canceled it. Lucky I got my deposit back, thankfully. Yeah. But, yeah, it was just more that that. that I'm glad you made that decision beforehand because otherwise if it had been would you have lost your deposit would you've just gone along with it would it have been what you wanted in the end well this is it I mean when I put it down to it in the nicest way possible of respect to all of these different places and things that do it because they're great um when it comes to how many

people like you know my my family is huge as well you know um and our family and our friendship groups get bigger yeah we've just got more and more children as me Yes, go on. And I say, because you've got kids, you're going to be inviting some kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it would go, I feel about sounding tight, I don't know paying me like 15 grand for taking people for dinner. And I'd just rather not do that.

Yeah. You know what I mean? I'd rather have a celebration, a real celebration. Yeah. You know, of what it's about, you know? Yeah, I think. If you want to come for dinner with me, come for dinner with me. But I ain't going to pay.

of the day, the dinner bit isn't the bit that you remember. No, but when you break it down. But that's the most expensive bit. That's what your bill is, isn't it? And that's not what's important to her. Yeah, and that's not what you're 10 years later in any of talking about. It's going to be the other thing is that you've got planned that you want to do. So yeah, yeah, it's just, just on it somewhere to do that celebration.

We'll get there in the end, it's fine. Yeah. I'm very last minute anyway. It obviously wasn't meant to me. No, no, no, no. It definitely, definitely wasn't. And I feel so much more better now. Yeah.

Although I did fall in love with the place, because of how we're very, you know, it was very open and spacious and whatever, but I don't, I don't want, I don't want or need all that, so. No. Yeah. Back to sort of square one with the celebration side of it. Kind of, but also you've got that feeling and an idea of what you want. So it's just not settling and being pushed into something that is not where you want.

It's just, yeah, so the, the, yeah, what it's all about. is in and it's done and it's worked and we're excited. Cool. Well, it's sort of, sort of, yeah, it is booked. I just need to just plan, plan it more more. Any ideas on honeymoon? Mitch has always said Maldives. There's not many places in the world that appeal to me.

I'm such a bit of a scaredy cat with traveling. I know it's strange, but I do, there's places I do want to see. Yeah. Like I went to South Africa as a child, I don't know, about 10. 11, something like that. And it's one holiday that I really remember, like really remember, you know, going on safari and stuff like that. And I'd want to do that with mine as they get older. Well, that's it. You can't, like the honeymoon's for you to, so you don't want to go anywhere that you'd want to take the kids. So then it's like, it changes the places. Yeah. And

Mitch has always said the Maldives, which sounds lovely to go and to, but also me and Mitch are not very people to just sit and not do stuff. So whether these places, I'm guessing they've got more stuff to do there. Not much. My mom and dad, they had their honeymoon in the Moldies and my mom was pregnant as well. So obviously my mom and dad loved diving. My mom couldn't do it at the time, but my dad was going. So it was fine for them because every day you could go diving and stuff.

So I wouldn't get enough a chance. So that's. But there's sharks and stuff there. Yeah, but he likes all that. I just. So yeah, as a couple. I'd be sitting on the big. I'm not sure that's probably, I reckon you'd be getting like, it.

I just don't know. That's what I mean. So I don't know. It's just there's lovely places I think to like have dinner and drinks and and there's like very islandy vibes. And I always see people that go there. I've not been, but I've seen people that go there, you know, riding bikes and stuff. And he's, he's, he's, I've never thought about it. He's, I think there's more of like a children's always said. So yeah. I don't know. I really, really don't know. I'm supposed to get married first. Actually put that into thing. Yeah, well, you don't always have to, I I mean, the original thing was people literally leave for their honeymoon that day or the day after. We didn't.

We got married in the September. We didn't go on a honeymoon until the November. Yeah. But that was purely because we found a cruise that we were going to go on, super cheap. And obviously, it has its fixed dates. So we waited two months. And then where do we go? So we flew to Miami.

We had a night in Miami. Then we got a car. We drove to Orlando. We went to Universal Studios And then we Drove back to Miami, flew No, we got on the boat I think then we got on the cruise

What cruise? Like a Caribbean cruise? No, I'm completely lying. What am I talking about? What was your honeymoon? Isn't it the husband you don't know about? No, no, no, no. I just trying to think where we got the cruise from That didn't make sense. No, we got the cruise from Spain, but from Malaga. Oh. We got on it from Malaga. It was a transatlantic one

which sometimes works out quite cheap because you're on the boat for a long time and obviously a lot of days at sea so it's not probably the ones that people tend to book so that might be why it's cheaper but we got on it from malaga and it done a couple places like um like portugal meyork or i think like nearby then we were at sea for five six days and it went into miami so then we did Miami or land yeah and then we flew up to new york and we had a couple days in new york before we come back so we did like a little bit of the that side of America with a cruise so it was three weeks long but most of it was on a crew I think yeah 12 nights or two weeks on the on the cruise um so obviously that was all paid for

you buy your drinks package whatever and there you are yeah yeah so I haven't done a cruise we love cruising I do want to yeah again that's one thing I just want to do with the kids is weird isn't it yeah I don't know I just say that like you know you say doing things I don't know Yeah, we want to do that, want to do that. Yeah, no, we like cruising, but I suppose before I ever did one, it wouldn't have been something that I thought I enjoy or want to do. We went on one because Liam's mom and dad booked to go on one for a couple of days, so we tagged along.

I think we're about 18, 19 at the time. There was only five nights, I think, around Ibiza and a few places from Barcelona. And then we loved it. So since then, I've probably done four-five. I've never heard anyone be negative about it. And everyone said, even with kids, it's easy. and we're going on one next week. So this will be your first experience with children on a cruise?

With the kids, yeah. So Kaysen's never been on one. Obviously, Hayden's first holiday. And apart from that, I've did the first one we did with Liam's mom and dad. And then Liam's mum and dad actually went on the transatlantic one that we went on for our honeymoon. And I did one with my family around the Caribbean. I think I was about 18. And then me and Liam have done a couple on our own.

So few then, really. Yeah, now I've said out loud. Yeah. We must have done about six or seven. Because I did one for when I was pregnant with Kaysen, like as our baby moon. I booked me and Liam one. So you've done a few. So I've done quite a few around the med.

And then we've done one, no, two, obviously the honeymoon one. And then one with my family, was around the Caribbean. And then this one we're doing is from Miami around the Caribbean. Yeah, so I don't know. I don't know where we'd go on a honeymoon actually. I wouldn't actually know. But as a question, that's something that Mitch has always said. I would advise you to go far because, like I say,

it's so much easier to travel far to places. If there's anywhere far away on the other side of the world that you like the idea of, then do that because it's easier to do it without kids. Yeah, it would be. It would be something that's more, you know, like that. But at the same time, we're not all, America scares me too. I know, Maldi scared. They don't count in I around seeing Maldives and stuff like that.

Like, I just, yeah, exactly. I'll stay up there. I'm easily pleased to drive. It's because I think of like the world, as I'm saying, the Maldies. I'm like, oh, I've got pirates. You know, like, things like that. I just literally go to the worst. His boat was meant to go, the one that way.

Hotel Base Week was meant to go. up the, is it the Panama Canal, whatever it's doing. To be honest, I've tried not to even look into it too much, but my mum was saying that that bit of it might be cancelled because of pirates or something. This is what I mean. See, I don't make these things up, you know. I'm not that bad. It's real.

It's real. It's real. And it would happen to me, okay? To be fair, that does worry me about America. Me and Liam have done America quite a few times, like both sides. We've gone across to L.A. a couple times. And Vegas and San Francisco and we've done like Miami. me in New York and stuff and before going I always worries me like just the gun stuff

yeah um obviously the racial stuff as well yeah and being mixed race yeah but also the gun stuff because like I say you could just be shuffled it's a world isn't it and then something happened but every time you travel to a different place you should it but you just have to try not to think about it because like they just saying back to married is how did you how did how did they propose to you because like you wasn't here or she no we were living in England at the time. So obviously we've met here. We were here for so many years. Well, no, first of all, we weren't. We went back to England after about six months, didn't we? Yeah. So we were there at the time. Then we have obviously been back here probably about 12 years. But no, for the years we went

to college and university in England is when he proposed. So I think we'd be together. How old we were? Yeah. So we got together. He was 15. I was 16. I was 16. I was just turning 20. It was my 20th birthday. So I think I was officially 19. And yeah, we were going out for dinner for my birthday. So obviously going for Chinese. Myna Lee's favourite.

But obviously you just get ignored Chinese takeaway. But there's this, wards this nice restaurant. And there was like a little bit further out. And it was like a buffet order off the menu start. So it was like, ah, posh Chinese that we could go to. So, like, as an occasion, push the boat out. Yeah, you get your table away. Sit it at you.

I get it. So, yeah, he took me there for my birthday. And we've been together four years, or around four years, because obviously we met on my birthday. So it would have been our four year anniversary. And people, obviously, at the time, you've been together a few years, oh, when you're getting engaged, and obviously, I mean, we're still super young, but still the things that people say. So in my head, I was thinking, I was still young, still at university, so maybe next year. We've been together five years.

Five years sounds like a nice round number. I like my numbers. So I was like, that's a nice round number. So maybe I'll expect it next year. And then completely did not expect him to do it there and then. What, in the restaurant? In the restaurant. So, God, I wouldn't have said Liam would have done it in a restaurant, actually.

Well, exactly. I don't even know this, do I? I don't think I've heard this story. I actually thought it was in a house, so I don't really up. Yeah, well. I don't know. probably haven't really talked about it that much. Yeah.

So, yeah, in the restaurant. So again, Liam's quite quiet and reserved in, you know, around people he doesn't know. I mean, he's so much better now, 20 years on, since coming back to Spain, since having his own business and obviously that. Being his dad. Yeah. He's obviously grown up a lot. But back then he was, yeah, would never have said that's what he would have done or the way

he would have picked it. I would have, you know, imagined he would have picked something private quiet. But no, we were in the middle of us. meal, I think. I don't know if it was at the beginning start of the end. I couldn't tell you. I just remember, before he got up, I actually, there's a photo as me playing with the chopsticks, like in my mouth. Literally, I think there's a scene in Friends, where Rachel from Friends does it. And I think I just did the same thing, like a Walrus. So yeah, being super immature at the table. And then he gets up and I was like, where are you going?

thinking he was maybe going to the bathroom or something. So where are you going? And then he got down on one knee in front of the whole restaurant. And everyone turned, waited for me to say yes. Then everyone was like, I was just you two at dinner? Just us two at dinner. So you didn't know anyone else in the restaurant? Didn't know anyone else at the restaurant.

Did I know. I just envisioned then. You've been sitting there with your family having dinner. No, just us too. I have no idea who else was there. But they all started clapping. So, yeah. And then on the way home, we went to my mom and dad's house to tell them.

He hadn't told them. Oh, he did that. Something that's a little bit different. No, not officially. Why do I do that? Does anyone know what that means? I just bring them in. I don't know what I'm talking about.

Hello. Did you ask? That's not the right way to use them, by the way. I usually use them at the right time. I know he didn't feel right. I only had one. Funny is. Yeah, no.

So I don't think he's officially said, I want to ask Billy to marry me, is that okay? or whatever the conversation goes. Not to your mom, your dad, he says, he says this is does. I don't know how old Sean it was them, but anyway, yeah. Yeah, so no, he said he didn't. Partly because he was worried that they might let things slip or just, you know, like just change around me

and just maybe give a hint without real idea. And obviously, we've been together many years. And at that point, we were all living together at one point. I think by then we got our own plays. But obviously, not only were we four. years deep but I mean yeah we was all living together at one point they're basically like his adopted son so he said I don't know if he had any like maybe side hint conversations with my dad beforehand but he was an official thing he basically let your dad and said no he never done an

official yeah ask but he kind of said I had the feeling like they'd be cool with it and have you told her for the rest of my and I say yes see yeah so no he didn't ask and then we went around afterwards to tell them. Are they happy? Yeah. They were. Yeah, obviously, yeah. They were happy.

And yeah, we were together another six years before we got married officially. So I was engaged for six years. I was it like, oh, I suppose you came back, I think now? Well, yeah, because we had to finish another year or two years at uni. Then we moved back to Spain. Then I had to get a job. So then we got a job. Then we got our own place.

Then we bought a house. And then we started saving for a wedding. Oh, no. We bought a house completely knocked all the. internal walls and revamped the whole thing, then we both the wedding and got married. So yeah, it took us, took us a few years to get, to get there. Yeah. What about you? Tell us, my proposal. It was on holiday, in Lapland. Family holiday. Family holiday, yeah, family holiday. Yeah, the five of us was in Lapland.

We, so obviously now knowing, obviously I didn't have clue. not a clue not even a little bit of a thing that it would happen in Lapland or just no not even a clue really because it's like a special holiday no but not for me and Mitch I know that sounds

did you think maybe he would do it just the two of you so it wasn't a thing for yeah but not on a family holiday in Lapland I know it's magical but I think it's a family children magical yeah yeah you're with me yeah I'm glad he did it there because that's like that is Oh, it was, it was, so now, this is, so now knowing, so basically what happened was we, we were walking through the forest.

This sounds like, it's not real, but I'm just going to say how I was, because it was, all right? Yeah, well done, Mitch. Hands off, sir. Hi. We were walking through the forest in Lapland, and we, I don't know how we have, I think we just said about having a photo or something like that. And we took a photo or a selfie or something. And then Mason said, I'll just take one of you two. And then he took it off us too.

And he was video and taken a photo time. And then obviously Mitch went down on one knee. Yeah, because the photo has all the Northern lights. Northern lights. Yeah, yeah. It was, yeah. It was lovely. And the kids got to be there. And the kids were there.

So, yeah, so going back. So Mason knew. So Mitch had told Mason that he was going to ask to marry me when we was in Lapland. So bare to mind, Mitch had to carry this ring. But I don't, I pack. That's what I mean? That's stressful for a bloke to have to carry the ring abroad.

Looking back, now I knew, now I know why. Because I was thinking, why are you looking so dodgy going through security and stuff? Do you know what I mean? So yeah, he had to travel through, because we travelled from Spain to Scotland and then Scotland to Finland. So all these travelling. And then unpack it. When I pack, and then be in there, because I unpack everything and we get in there

and hang it all love and da-da-da-da-da-la how did he do that yeah he I don't know actually it's kind of kind of scary how we managed to do all right but he did it but no going back I start realizing certain things you know like when I said I was going to get to me he was like I asked something so it was in the cupboard he was I don't it's fine I'll get it and I was like all right but I didn't at the time it was just didn't clock on yeah and so we so Mason knew he told Mason before we flew and he had to get this this ring through everything when I usually take care of the bags

I don't carry them, obviously packed, did I do it? Got to the accommodation was there and he had originally planned to do it when we were going to go like on a husky ride and then he was like oh I don't know because there'll be loads of people you know and so then he changed it and he didn't actually know when he was going to do it

it um but basically he just took the ring out one morning and put it in his pocket and he's up i've got to it literally that point so bearing of mind obviously we're in all our snow gear as well so we've always got gloves on and everything yeah so we were actually at lunch um and we was all sitting there was lunch yeah it was lunch and we're in there talking and brendam i don't seriously don't have a clue tell him about this dream i had that he like the night before that he that that he had asked to marry me, but then he dropped the ring in the snow and da-da-da-da-da-da.

This was me telling them. Now you're giving him extra anxiety of, oh, God, this could actually happen. And it's so funny because then I, Lexi need the bathroom. So I've got up and walked out with Lexi, but as we walked out, there's like a window and I took a picture of them

because just the way the window was, that the thing. So literally was those minutes before. Looking at him, him and Mason are kind of like near the each other. Yeah. Again, going back, you kind of realize what's happening.

So then me and let's go to the bathroom. We come back to where we're having our food. Finish our food. That's when we go out into the snow and we have our day or we've been to swimming or whatever, whatever. For anyone he's still got this thing in his ring in his pocket. Do you know what I mean? And then obviously when we start going,

I think we were walking to a shot through the forest or whatever it was, that's when he did it. The little ones didn't have a clue, obviously. Yeah. But yeah, that's how it happened. It was very magical after day. It was very, very lovely. And he did ask my dad.

Yeah. So my mom and dad knew, well, I say they knew. They didn't know he was going to do it when and where he was going to do it at all. Right. But Mitch had asked my dad. Yeah. Was it permission? What do you are?

Permission, yeah. And so I think they just presumed that he was going to do it there after. Yeah. hit that i think anyway so yeah so that was that was and i think it was nice that mason knew as well to be fair because that was quite cute um and it was just the five of us in the forest nobody else was around yeah um yeah you got lucky with the lights the the sky was beautiful and that mason was obviously got it all you know what i mean that's that's one downside to us having done everything that we done quite a long time ago is just the photos and the videos yeah by

just trying to think back to what phone I would have had when he proposed but definitely at our wedding we all had like camera phones and stuff but you just weren't on it and using it as much as you do now whereas everything's a picture now we have so many videos and photos now of other things and stuff that we've done but yeah I've got a couple snippet of videos and I just wish that's one thing that we didn't actually get that I wish I paid for was a videographer but it's true but they say don't they or at least my mom's got one picture of me I've got five thousands of one of them blowing his nose. I mean, like that. You know what I mean? It's true.

One picture of my first Thursday, and then all the, you're random Tuesday afternoon. Yeah, so that, that is one thing. Or not even necessarily to go to the length of paying for a professional videographer, but definitely someone having a lot of, yeah. Because I've got a couple, and even though they're blurry and stuff, I really don't care. It's just nice. Like there's a couple in like the disco bit with sort of the music and everyone like dancing. But like you say, I think, if that happened now in a restaurant,

you would definitely someone else would have that on video or picture or some he could have asked one of them to do it yeah true yeah so yeah that is the only downside because I would have liked to have had um like I say there's photos of me from that night I took on my camera um yeah but obviously yeah we didn't have yeah good quality or even just in the habit of using yeah things like we do now yeah yeah and then your hen yeah yeah the hen was really good. You planned it with another friend of ours. I was so heavily pregnant.

Heavily, heavily pregnant to the point you probably shouldn't have come, to be honest. I was heavily. I was forward to you. You had Lexi basically middle of August. And when was the hen? Beginning of July? So yeah, it was like a month before you ended up having her. So, um, but obviously, the hem was great.

I'm just saying like, I didn't stop you. No, no, I blew up. My uncle blew up. Yeah, you did have to keep sitting down, putting your feet out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, no, we went to Marbea, which was nice. We all jumped in cars and drove down there. It's about four-hour drive from where we are.

So that was really nice. We had some great, you know, big apartments. Again, I feel like, not that there was anything wrong with my head, I loved it, but there was a lot of people. Yeah. I did feel a little bit like. Where am I going? How can I spend time with everyone and stuff like that?

And, I mean, there was... As you as a bride or the one who's... the main focus of it, trying to be with so many people like once. Yeah. I mean, there was no one there that shouldn't have been there. No. Everyone was close friends and family. Oh yeah, no, I know what you mean. But there was, there was a lot of people. And I don't know, I feel like when there's, when there's a big group of people, I do struggle to, I don't know, it's just makes, yeah, it's just difficult for me to focus and hear everything and stuff. So I do prefer smaller groups. but it was it was great we you know we chilled we went on a boat catamarrang we did some games

um the way linnikas was great where we had like a little affection to ourselves and everyone dressed stuff as cheerleading at university i was on a cheerleading squad yeah so everyone dressed up as cheerleas and you all had practiced as dance and when the song cheerleader came on yeah you all knew this dance routine that was that proper shock yeah that was great that was a really good memory um but yeah no it was really nice girly time um we dressed this mom went for a nice meal we done fancy dress yeah we had a bit of everything we did we did have a bit of everything and it was quite chill like it wasn't rushed it wasn't loads of things to do everyone got on we had because i know some people don't have like their mums and stuff on their hand they do more of like

a friend's thing and then sometimes like a more of a like a sophisticated thing with their parents but No, my mum was there. Liam's one was there. They had some friends come with them as well and stuff. And we all, we were all together. It was really good. Yeah. Really good.

Yeah. What about you? What are you thinking? Oh, God. Here we go. I don't know. Because obviously back there, you're all way of my life. We were like out drinking.

Like the whole thing, if you think of hen's stuff is if you go like out party and drinking. Yeah. And I do, I do. I don't know if I would have done it. Like if I was to get married now, if I would have done like three, four days of going out. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what, yeah, exactly. I might have had more of a balance down.

I think I can do it anymore. That's what I mean. I don't actually think I could do anymore. Oh, it makes me, I mean, when we're in our jamas now, Bill, for Godfay, yeah? We are in our jama. We're actually jama. Let's get real, yeah? We're real on here.

I mean, you were thinking about it, like, fired, I don't know. That's the thing, though, because I like my cheer and I like, I don't get me wrong. I don't, I like going out and having to dance and I'm going to, having a drink, a little, you know. We did actually have the last night, some people went home, but the last night, we did stay in, didn't we? I think on mine. I think we stayed in and had more of like a chill thing. We played games on like the balcony. But yeah, I think I would have a balance of maybe a nice meal, maybe going out, but then also maybe like a slumber pie type vibe. But also I like my activities. There's only one activity I booked on yours. I couldn't do it.

I know. Yeah, we did the war inflatables that are in the sea. Like I didn't you swim out. Oh, I couldn't do it. I was the video. I was the cameraman. And for another friend of ours, we did that go eight. That was good. That was a lot scare me than I thought it was going to be. I did not think I was going to be nervous till I got there and they were explaining to us how to clip on for our safety

and then I was like, we are in control of this. Okay. No, no, it's fine because you can only click one and I was like, yeah, but you want me to control me up there on this one two, one clip. I'd never put two and two together about the activity till I got there and then I was like, but it was brilliant. It was really, really good and me, you and

a friend of ours, the bride, we stayed and obviously some, wasn't some people's thing which is completely understandable and it is again going on hens he's got to remember who it's for yeah exactly you know that they enjoy doing and we are quite active yeah we are we that's what I mean very activities I don't I do I do like my stuff yeah the problem is there's not much here like that yeah a lot of the stuff I'm seeing is in England I'm like even that like party bingo thing where it's like like oh song go bingo or whatever the whatever it is I don't know

the least enough they play bingo I just see videos like yeah being like on the top of table That looks, that's a good, but there's not much here to do that. But at the same time, I don't, I don't want to go England. You know what I mean? Or then you could make it good. That sounds horrible when I say that. But I just, I think, because we live in the... It's just the space, the ideas, isn't it?

There's more, like, ideas of things to do there. And that's that, I think... But we have the weather and stuff, so. Yes, I don't. I'm not sure. I, um, yeah, I like the idea of a chill and just because we're, like, the chat and a laugh. Yeah. Yeah, fun.

and messing about and then I like getting dressed up and then I like dance I like my music yeah I'd say we are girls that do it all so yeah and then I've just like PJs dress up

smart dresses because we do love hills and then I like to go and do it but then we also like put our trainers on yeah we like our trainers and like to do like I ask and have a laugh

and you know and relax yeah yeah would you want to go away like a little this is for me I think everyone he's asking me about everyone I feel like everyone

nobody's like for asking me. It's in my head. I don't know. It's, it's, I don't really care. This is probably it. I don't actually care where it is. I say in the middle of England. I think it's just because we live here. It's like the idea. I think you need to have an idea of finding what I want to do. That's it. That's it. That's the thing. It's what I want to do, I think, more than anything that's, that's, it's got a, yeah, I don't want to just sit and drink and eat. You know, like that. I want to this. Do something. Yeah, yeah. Well, like you say, we enjoy going. now but we're not massive drinkers that could drink three four days in a row and it be all about the nightlife side of it it needs to have a balance what should we get there day one right girls

that's gold well no obviously when you're with the girls like you yeah like we do want to do it but it's not me that's not the whole thing is that way yeah i am i do yeah like a bit of everything i just don't know where or how it's a little we're like the celebration really isn't it so basically yeah we're not sure if you're even going to get a marination was it's whether you make a decision and that is both of our weak points we are not good at making decisions even before we started recording I had to make a decision and I can't make a decision trying to go to dance the other night we drove for 10 minutes before we made a decision we're not good we're not that is yeah I am very indecisive and it's one thing I really dislike about myself

yeah yeah yeah one thing I want to get better at is making decisions I know yeah so unless it's something I know I want, then I'm okay. But it's like with this, yeah. I know what I want, that I don't know what I want. So it's hard. Part of me is very decisive. Like even we're remodeling our onsuit bathroom at the moment and I'm like, Liam's like, do you like this? No, don't like that. Don't want that. Yeah. So yeah, there's certain things that I'm like, no, I know exactly what I want. Yeah. But then, yeah, sometimes that in between the, like, what do you want for dinner? Don't. Where do you want to go for dinner? Don't even start on the little book. So, that Good, gorgeous to divorce.

Anyone who knows me, I ask everyone, we'll be dinner tonight, what you have to do this night? Oh, it's the bane of our bloody life. Last time, we hate it. But, yeah. Well, we're over dinner tonight. Just let me know. Yeah, well, you can actually, that was our big thing.

Picking the bloody country we wanted to get married in because we were thinking Vegas, we were thinking Jamaica, we were thinking all these places. Then we thought, right, some family aren't going to be able to travel that far, so we'll go more local. And then it was Spain. Then it was picking. And once you were thinking about family again,

was the nicest, in the respect, she is like that. So, yeah. Well, we wanted a holiday. We would have gone away. We was going to have a holiday. Oh, there they are. I think that was right, though. I think.

Kind of. Holiday, wedding. And go away on a holiday and. Yeah, and it'd be like a week celebration. A week holiday and have, say, the wedding on the second day and then the best of thing. But even then we were like, well, it was like, then it's going to be a thing of, oh it's tomorrow and it just gets more and more and more like oh no I think I love that idea yeah but now you said it and explained that I think of why wedding or not I always do

extra worried every day later to it and again if I want to go on holiday with all my friends and my family and everyone is close to me then let's book a holiday you know clearly yeah so yeah so I sound really boring and tight I am going to have a lovely wedding and a beautiful celebration like so you just want it to be like people you want it to be authentic to you and And like I say, you want to spend the money where the memories are, not on all the additional things you're supposed to have. There you go. I'm about the only, yeah.

So, yeah, I think that's right. I think you should spend the money where it's meaningful to you. Yeah, and that's it. And if it's not on food, it's not on food. Yeah. I love my food. Yeah. But you don't want your whole wedding to be about the food.

You want it to be about the memory. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right. So to round up this wedding episode that they ended up doing. I thought we'd play a little game of Mrs and Mrs. We actually played this ones. Do you remember?

We went away to camping and that was a few of them. Oh, no. And it was your mixed with a year. But we paired up and we did it and we actually won. Yeah, we did. So, yeah, let's do Mrs and Mrs. I forgot out that game actually. Yeah, that is a really good game.

You see it on TV, didn't it? Yeah. With celebrity couples going on it. I did like that game. So we're not going to do the whole game, but we're just going to do the Who is More This Word. Okay. So, wait, wait, how do we answer it, though?

What do I do? We'll just say it. Me or you. Okay, so who is the more loud? Oh, me without a drink, you with a drink. Yeah, that depends on if we're so broad or not. Yeah, that's true. That's how I would answer that probably, yeah.

Yeah. With a drink, it feels louder than it. Everyone we know. Yeah. Do you get loud after a drink? Okay, confident. Who's more confident? Oh, it depends what it's with.

That's true. Because I feel like, freak, let's go to dance. for example I feel like we we pump each other up yeah yeah so if we nearly didn't walk into that first dance that's what I mean we were both nervous we were both sitting in the car thinking of excuse you not to go in and then we kind of yeah yeah I don't know I think walking into like a room full of new people I think you're probably a bit more confident if it's in like a professional setting probably yeah you so yeah yeah it depends yeah okay that's that's yeah I'd say we're we're quite similar I don't say I wouldn't say one of us is

majorly more overconfident than the other one, but yeah, I'd say we have strengths on the end in the scenario. Yeah, yeah. Who's the funniest? Ooh. I'd probably say you. Yeah, I think I'm quite funny.

I don't. I'm just being a very modest of you, Charlotte. And I actually don't. No, watch you back to one of these episodes, I've actually found myself laughing out on you. Oh, me? Yeah. Oh, okay, maybe I am there.

I'll give you that crown. Oh, thanks. Who's the smartest? You? You didn't even need to ask that question. come on now who's the messiest oh messiest

yeah I'm going to have to go back to when we were younger I don't know then messiest like messiest like I'd say as teenagers you were messy

yeah I was going to say back then it would have been me I'd say now we're probably yeah I don't but yeah as a teenager you were messy definitely

probably because you had more stuff you just had stuff everywhere and I had stuff everywhere and I needed about hours to get ready to do anything. Yeah, you'd have to get up like an hour and a half before school to wash and blow a drive straight and then I'd stay asleep in bed and then yeah, right, wake me up when it's time when we've got like 10 minutes left. Literally, hair on to my head, helmet on, let's go.

Yeah, I'd definitely be like, okay, yeah, I definitely didn't need long to get ready in the morning. What happened, Nick? Now it's completely the other way around. Not that I'd take long to get ready at all because I'd actually still get ready in about 10, 15 minutes. But yeah, yeah. Yeah, like this, Bill, don't get changed. I'm coming in my pyjamas too. That's weird. We are both literally the same this morning. Who is the angriest?

I'd say you. I was going to say me, but I feel like, am I angry? Am I just really? I wouldn't say angry, but I should know. That's a politically correct way of putting it. I'd say, no, you definitely have tantrums. Yeah, I...

Yeah. Not tantrums, but like if something pisses you off, I'll go on one. You, about it. You let it affect you quicker than me. I think I'm able to keep it. Oh, I feel like I'm getting really angry just thinking about something. No, I think I can keep it together. Yeah, that's what it is.

But you let things bother you. Yeah. When, like, obviously for a reason, you're not a person that gets angry for nothing. But when something bothers you, it's difficult for you to keep it together. Yeah. So, yeah, I'd tell you. And then when you have a drink, you let it, you let everything go. So, yeah.

Yeah. when you're a drink you're angrier than me I'm not I'm not that's true it's not angry you're not even angry are you it's just more like you're ready to go I've arrived

right now yeah let's not talk about my secret my secret what's it called I'm alter ego I tell everyone this was not even a thing so yeah

after a drink I'd say I'll get a bit more comfortable sometimes a bit louder The world's a good word to you. Yeah. In a good way. I'd say I'm a fun drunk. Yeah, she's well fun. If she's on a dance floor, she's like if she's on a dance floor, she's like she's in a music video.

Oh yeah, totally. Get that proper dance confidence. Yeah, I think on Beyonce. Definitely not. But if you told her a secret late earlier on that day, guaranteed to be showered across the room, like, guarantee. I don't mean like a secret. Not a secret, yeah. No, I'm a good secret keeper.

I don't mean a secret, but just something. Yeah. I was whispered. would definitely get showered out later on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do sometimes forget who's around me, sometimes. But, yeah, no, this is obviously who I've been the whole time I've drank, so. Yeah, this hasn't just, yeah, this isn't a new thing, definitely that.

Well known in our group and joked about sometimes, but this person has remained nameless for 20 years. It was only on this trip. This trip to Leeds, and I wasn't even that drunk, to be fair, I was just merry. I said this alter ego needs her own name you know if fiancé can have

Sasha fierce this alter ego needs a name was Liam said that this But you asked three different people Yeah but before this Liam said She needs to have a black name

Yes I don't know why But Just more sassaner Yeah So that's what he said So yeah Was it three different people

Yeah separately By the way They wasn't standing together At the same name Sheniqua. But I'm not on board, no, not on board. I know this doesn't fit her now.

Trust me. She's not named. She's not named. I'm in a video when we go out. We'd never go out. Any time we go out one time. I'd just say I'm just a bit more comfortable. I'll look like you.

I wouldn't say I completely changed, but I definitely, yeah, just not as maybe, I don't know how to explain it, but yeah. She's not named Shaniqua. We'll move past that. Definitely is that. best dressed you yeah yeah i'd say younger probably you yeah but i don't need to dress now as the as the older you've got you've got a lot more like you don't give a shit it's more work as well because i go into work and i put scrubs on i just think oh what i'm literally going to work

putting my scrubs on i've come in out and that's it going home yeah obviously i've got a corporate job so obviously i dress more smart for work so that's obvious but outside of work and design yeah I suppose, yeah, back then I was, now I couldn't, I'm literally like, remember back then it was like, how expensive your clothes could be. Now I'm like, get so cheap, I've got this. I can't get a compliment without going, I was only this price, it was only from there. Yeah, but if you said it, it's went, oh, yeah, okay. Yeah. No, it's true. It's funny how things change. But yeah, I'll take that one. I'll take that one. Who's more emotional? Me. Yeah. I think I'm emotional, a lot more emotional. I could. in every emotion in everything yeah cry laugh scream shout yeah yeah you you definitely yeah take that one yeah yeah definitely you cry way more than i do yeah but i'm not a cryer

i could cry now but you know you're right i'd say you're just more not animated but yeah like when you when you feel an emotion no matter what it is whether it's a good emotion or bad emotion you are yeah it comes you're easier to show it whereas i think i hold a lot in and i've bottled things more so yeah I don't cry very often and yeah yeah but we was yeah just yeah in my PJs for that reason of feeling mm because it's that week mm you get me yeah I was talking about emotions wasn't it literally like one minute I'm like oh I want to wreck your head off the next thing I'm just oh my god please just hug me and then I'm like don't touch me yeah and then I'm like come near me I want you to touch me and then it ends what day and then I get for like four days of my life where

I'm just me. I'm quite lucky that I wouldn't say that that bothers me. My period doesn't really affect my emotions. Yeah, more. Like I say, I get more, the older I've got, the more, like, physical, like, yeah, I get a headache now I've realized, or Liam realized that I'd get headaches a couple days before. I'm starting to get, like, back aches and stuff like that.

But generally, it doesn't actually bother me. I wouldn't say that I'd get into the cycle of emotions, like, leading up to a cold. Yeah, definitely. Or afterwards. Definitely me. But I know a lot of people do struggle with that, but I'm quite lucky that, and I thought maybe it was the pill because I took the pill for so long, but then even periods where I've not taken the pill. It still had that. Luckily, but I think it's just me.

Yeah, I'm definitely. There are sometimes, obviously. I think it has got to me. Yeah, sometimes, but generally, month by month. Yeah, I'll take that one. But yeah, you can take that one. How can you get like the clever stuff and I get like that stuff? There's nothing more.

We've been emotional. Got funny. Okay, fair enough. Go on, go on. I feel like you the test. I'm joking, I'm joking, I think. Who is the strictest parent? Oh, between me and you? I'd say we're quite on par with the way in which we parent,

but I'd say you're stricter just because I think yours are older, so you're probably at the point where you have to enforce things a little bit more. Because in my house, I don't feel like I'm the strictest. No. Like, at home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd say you've got your rules. Oh, yeah, yeah.

But, yeah, I'd say sometimes Mitch can be the discipline. Maybe he follows it through better than Ida. I think that's probably what it is. He backs you up. Yeah, but he just sticks with it. Yeah. I can't stick with it. Yeah.

You probably give them a little bit of leeway, wait. Yeah, so yeah, okay, I'll go on that. Yeah, I'm strict, so. Yeah. Who is more thoughtful? Oh, you're much better at thinking things like. I think you. Yeah?

No, I am. I would describe myself. Okay, let's put it this, but I think I'm thoughtful. I don't do it. So how are you thoughtful? Because I think about doing it, I just don't actually do it. I think, oh, that would be lovely, then just don't do it. No, I'd say you are thoughtful, but I'd say I'd say, I'd probably more.

You do it, that's what I'm trying to say. So you're thoughtful and do it. I think about it, just don't do it. So actually, there's no point thinking about it if you're not going to fucking do it, Charlie, you know what I mean? That needs nothing to no one, really. It's just like coming up to you and go, oh, I'm all about your birthday. Didn't message me, though. I don't just say I have a bath, have a good day.

You know, it's a bit like that. Right, who holds more of a grudge? Ooh. I'd say we're both not very good at this. No, me, both. I'm not going to go into the detail at that, but I think. Yeah, no, I'd say we're both. I think you more, though.

Do you think? Oh, no, I don't know, because it depends what it is, but I think you'd follow us through with something more than I would. Although I'm the way I am, I'm a bit more like, oh okay yeah whereas you're like no don't do that because of this this this yeah i'd say it takes it takes a lot to get me to that point but yeah yeah yeah if you cross the line you cross the line yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm not even going to ask who's the most intercive because you probably couldn't make a decision on who's the most intense exactly that we are terrible

actually so yeah well we'll end it there we'll end it there that was good i like that that was a nice episode yeah that was good talking about things that've happened and things yet to to come but yeah god yeah weddings are so personal and there's so much to get into that we haven't even thought about but no we could go on forever and i'm sure it'll kind of come with the fact that i'm not actually married yet yes so we'll probably revisit this episode there we just thought the other area going on the fact that we just come back yeah recently from one wedding and again the one before yeah the end of last year very close friends it's nice that yeah everyone in our group is yeah is like for the last two years really kind of like getting married and stuff and

yeah everyone's wedding so far as have been different and unique to them and it's nice it's just love's love it's great yeah it is it is just don't get in too much debt for it goes yeah be smart see you later guys love you