The Royals of Malibu - LATTES WITH LUCY E13 - Being Bad and Humble with Alyssa McKay (Ella) Pt 2

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

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are based on personal experiences and general knowledge, not professional expertise. If you are seeking professional mental health support, we encourage you to consult a qualified therapist or counselor, which we are not, even after a season of doing this. Emma, we're here. Welcome back everybody to our final episode of Alattes with Lucy, a special bonus series of the Royals of Malibu. And just thank you guys so much for such an amazing first season.

Will there be a second season? Only time will tell. But for now, this is the end of our season of Lattes. And we're just so grateful for all of the questions. I know, I'm so sad. I feel like this was kind of like a form of therapy for me. Yes. Talking through other people's problems

has kind of made me reflect on my own life and wanting to take my own advice more. Oh my god, the amount of times I forgot what I've said on this pod, listened to it a few weeks later once it's out and been like, oh shit, I need to apply my own advice. Yeah, I mean, by no means are we experts, but regardless, we really appreciate all of you guys writing in and trusting with us with these big things that are happening in your life. And it's been an honor to work with you Steph and answer these questions. And we appreciate,

we love our traumas more than anything. We're seeing all your DMs about season three. I promise you we're going to have a very important announcement very soon. So just stay tuned, be patient with us. We really appreciate it. We really do. And Emma, it's been an utter joy. I feel like I sing your praises just far too much. It's like so cringe, but I'm obsessed with you.

I feel like this has been a really amazing back and forth between just like, even just like our age difference and like our different life experiences. Like I feel like we can give really different perspectives on things. And yeah, I really can't stress enough that like, it is so brave to write into this show. And like, those of you that gave your names, like that's scary.

Like I wouldn't necessarily be comfortable doing that. I'd be scared to do that. I think it's really, really so beautiful. And if anything we said helped even a little, we are grateful. And if it didn't help, we're sorry. I'm really bummed that this is over. This has been so fun for me. You know, I'm always usually behind the mic producing. So it's been fun. No, literally, it's- Actually, it's pretending to be talent. And like, I have a newfound respect for all of

the hosts and actors I work with because it is hard. It is hard, but literally you do it so effortlessly. You are not pretending to be talent. You are talent, and I will never ever get over that you saw something in me to do this. It's really like, this has been absolutely wonderful in every way. I adore you, and you have been so good at navigating all the many sides of me, the scared, the anxious, the freaking out, the common zen, which only appeared a few times, and just all of it. I feel very supported. I feel very lucky and just so in awe of how wise you are at such a young age. I know you're not that much younger than me, but you are and you're doing just incredible things and this is amazing. And we can continue to Lattes at Lucy with each other IRL after this. Well and everyone listening to this is the last Lattes with Lucy

episode but remember that Steph just launched her own new podcast called Never Late to the Party. So if you need to continue getting your stuff fixed, be sure to subscribe. Yeah, subscribe you guys. Never Too Late to the Party. It's basically all about what I talk about on here, which is that I'm 33 and single and I feel late to my life, but I'm proclaiming that you're never too late. And so it's kind of like me discovering how to not feel too late by interviewing other people on how they got out of their own way to achieve their dreams and how they see the timing of their lives.

I think there's a lot of like cool advice. So, yeah, check it out wherever you're listening to this right now. And hopefully the next episode you see on this feed is season three. But until then, let's jump back into the interview with Alyssa McKay. We are back for part two with Alyssa McKay. I saw this one come in and Alyssa, when I found out that you were going to be on this episode, I thought there's no one better to answer this than you. It has to do with posting online. Oh my God, Alyssa. Yeah. And YouTube stuff. I think- No, this is exciting. I don't post. Go ahead.

You are posting. Yeah, I look- I am now. Now I'm a TikTokker. I don't post, go ahead. You are, yeah, I like. I am now. You're saying you want a good content now. Now I'm a TikToker. I made, I literally am so inspired by Alyssa's post. Like I made this, I did for the first time Alyssa, I'm like, come with me on a trip to Santa Barbara. And I was like, I'm channeling. So you channel your inner Ella, I channel my inner Alyssa McKay.

Oh my God, I love that. It was great. I was like, can I just say, just to like, on a quick tangent, like filming your, like it's so funny what we do, and by we we I mean you all the time, me one time. Like isn't it so hilarious, like, trying to like film your life, but then in having to film it, you have to kind of like put the camera up and then be like, and then, and like, isn't it just so fucking ridiculous?

Do you feel ridiculous sometimes? And I mean that in the most like supportive way. No, I do. And also it's weird too, because when I film for like different platforms, even though it's like the same shit, I always feel like when I do my Snapchat, I'm not nervous at all. I'm just like, okay, whatever. Right, like here you are.

But yeah, but when I film a TikTok vlog, I'm always like, how do I start that? Or I'm always like, hey guys, then I'm like, don't start with hey guys, you're fucking dumb. Like, you know what I mean? I'm trying to like sound like myself and for whatever reason, if I'm filming like a TikTok versus a Snapchat, I can never sound like myself. I'm like, it's Snapchat, it's Snapchat, just think of it that way. And no, I always feel stupid and then I watch it back and I'm like, do people actually want to see this? So I'm with you.

We all feel the same way. You have to do a masterclass in social media training for us millennials, but that can be another side hustle to your hundreds. We'll talk about it later. Emma, take it away. Okay, so this is Jane and she's from New York. I am a junior in high school. Recently I've started posting videos mostly fashion and get ready with me style on TikTok.

Some of my videos have hit five figure views, but most of them do not get that many. I really like editing and creating content regardless. However, my friend at school told me that several girls at school have seen the videos and have been talking trash and making fun of me. It's made me feel cringy, but at the same time, I think they should mind their own business.

What should I do? Never stop posting, number one. I just like, if you, I have people from high school that make fun of me and I have 10 million followers. Do you know what I mean? So like, unfortunately that aspect never goes away. There's always gonna be people making fun of you, but at the end of the day, they're making fun of you

because you have the courage to do something that they would never have the courage to do. And just speaking from experience, like it's... I actually saw something the other day and I was like, oh my god, like I resonate with this. It was so corny, but I was just like, oh my god, yay! Like, it was like an athlete will never make fun of someone who is just getting started in the gym, and a business owner will never make fun of someone for starting a small business. So it's never the people that are like in the industry doing the thing that are gonna look down at you for trying

or for getting started or doing something that you like to do. It's always the people that can't do it, to be quite frank, you know what I mean? Or too scared or too embarrassed or whatever the case may be. So, you know, it sucks and it's uncomfortable, but even me, like I post things and I'm like, fuck is so fucking cringy. Like, I'm okay with this being

on TikTok. Am I okay with it on my Instagram? I don't know. But I post it on my Instagram anyway, because at the end of the day, like, this is my business. And if you want it to be your business, or it's something that you just enjoy doing, you shouldn't let, you know, other people's fear of failure, stunt you or stop you from doing what you want to do. Yeah. I think that's exactly it. I think, you know, who is it, Brene Brown or someone, someone iconic and smarter than me said, you know, like it talks about being in the arena.

And it's like, you only want to hear from people that are in the arena. Like anyone outside of the arena, like just have no context for what you're doing. And I think that's exactly it. I've been so horrified to, I mean, even doing this podcast, doing anything, like really putting yourself out there and posturing yourself as a person that wants to be seen, like when you're seen, you could get rejected. And you know what, like Alyssa said,

until any of those bitches, I'm sorry, until any of them, you know, are doing what you're doing, they can literally shut up. And honestly, like, it's so corny and obvious, but it's like hurt people hurt people, like, they're feeling really insecure, they're feeling like shit about themselves, they're feeling really, really resentful and jealous that they're not brave enough to do what you're doing. And it makes them feel really deliciously safe and secure to just stay over here in the safety outside of the arena, not

doing anything and just taking down the people that are. Like Alyssa literally just said, anyone who's down there with you is like, I see you, I support you, keep going. Yeah, and I publicly endorse you, so show them that. Hey. Yeah, I mean, like anyone who's a creative or an artist, you have to start somewhere, right? And I think every single person who's successful has had a cringey phase. You know, like that's how you learn. That's how you get better. And if you're afraid of that, you have no business being creative, in my opinion. Like you have to put yourself, you have to be uncomfortable.

And there's always going to be a critic. I mean, I think the fact what's that saying? Like any press is good press is kind of similar to this. Like, yeah, if you have haters, you're kind of doing something right. Like, to an extent. But right. So the other day, I work at a very fancy restaurant and I serve a lot of agents and a lot of managers. And the other day, I work at a very fancy restaurant and I serve a lot of agents and a lot of managers. And the other day I was really beside myself because I was going through something

really difficult with like a creative project I was working on. Like, and I just felt like I couldn't figure it out. And I just felt really, really stressed out and really upset. And one of my tables like could tell, which is, you know, I probably should have hit it more, but that's all right. Anyway, this amazing agent at WME literally said to me, she was like, I don't know what's going on and I don't know what the issue is, but like I have to tell you, the person that you are going to become

in this exact moment to overcome this exact situation is the version of you that's going to be successful. And I've never heard it phrased that way. Versus instead of just being like, yeah, bad things happen and you get you get stronger. It's like, no, no, no, like, not only do bad things happen, but they're happening on purpose so that they create the version of you that you need to be to get to the next level. And I just thought that was such a great way to look at it. Instead of being like, why is this happening to me? And like, whoa, is me. And like feeling really defeated, feel almost like fired up to get through to the other side.

And like had this crazy shifting of things not happen to me, I would never have like had the confidence to just like buckle down, create these TikToks, do these things I'm fucking terrified of, get my shit together. And I feel like that's the version of me that knows how to get their shit together within a crisis is the version of me that's going to be even more up leveled a year from today. So I think be grateful for the haters because it's building you into the person you're meant to become.

Absolutely. And I also wanted to like, and correct me if I'm wrong, but when I was so when I first started on social media, I did these rich girl raps, rich girl skit type videos. When I watched them now I Hate them. I hate And people are like I've literally been at dinner tables with executives They're like look at this funny video she did and I'm like, oh my fucking god. It's like the worst it away I hate it. I love those videos. Oh

Like Emma you reached out to me to like, you know, be a part of Tron because you saw those videos. That's what I found. Yeah, I saw those videos. You know, you were like, yeah, like, let's talk to this girl. And even though it's something that I'm like, oh my God, I can't believe, like it opens doors for opportunities. So you have to look at everything you do as like, what can this potentially equal?

And if you think it equals opportunity, there's really no harm in putting yourself out there at all, in my opinion. I think it's great. I think it's kind of like a numbers game at the end of the day, right? The more that you can put out there, eventually it'll come to you. It's a numbers game. Yeah. Yeah, Alyssa, in your experience, is this kind of stuff a slow burn?

I guess were you posting for a while and then they took off or did they take off like boom right away? So it's interesting because there's so many ebbs and flows and especially with short form video creation, the landscape has changed a lot from 2018, which is when I started posting to now. But I started posting just like casually on musically and it was nothing revolutionary I was just like lip-syncing this stuff and doing the whole like oh Like you know doing the thing doing the thing you know what I mean? So it's like that that stuff wasn't blowing up I would lip-sync to a few little like movie scenes sometimes and like a video that I lip-synced to mean girls got a million views

And back in the day getting a muse a million views on musically was like oh shit like she's famous you know what I mean? But I was, and I just started doing those rich girl skit videos, which did really well, and those started blowing up, which then led me to doing it in musical form, and I don't know why I did that. People always ask, where did you come up with the inspiration? I'm like, I don't know, I just woke up and did it. I just was bored, it was COVID, you know what I mean?

So I don't know, I feel like a lot of it happened kind of all at once, and then I just saw just was bored, it was COVID, you know what I mean? So, I don't know. I feel like a lot of it happened kind of all at once, and then I just saw what was working and I continued to do that, and that worked really well for a long time. And then when I transitioned over to Snapchat, like, I was wildly successful over there. So you know, things change. You have to evolve as a creator. That's the only way to keep your, you know, keep skin in the game. You have to consistently, like, see what's going on, and like, that's the only way to keep skin in the game. You have to consistently

see what's going on and it's hard because you don't want to be a trend follower, but at the same time, you need to notice trends to see what you can do to contribute without doing the same thing everyone else is doing. It's a tough thing to do. It's really hard, but the first step is posting. You know what I mean? Yeah. What would you say to someone who's posting consistently and they're just stuck in the no view jail, what would be your piece of advice to keep going? Well, number one, just keep going.

Just keep going. Don't let it discourage you. Don't let it discourage you because I also hear from creators all the time. You would not believe the caliber of creators that come to me and say, I know, I started posting on Snapchat. I posted for two days. I didn't get a lot of views, so I stopped.

And I'm like, dude, like, you know what I mean? Like you have to work at it. Like this is not something that happens overnight. It's something like nobody's going to hand you anything either. Like I think people are kind of under the assumption that like the algorithm chooses who's going to be famous and who's not. But you really gotta put the work in. You look at like, Tara Yumi for example. People think that she just popped out of nowhere, but she's been doing YouTube videos for years.

Do you know what I mean? It just kinda happens at the right time, if that makes sense. But you really have to put in the work and be consistent. Obviously there are some people like Hakuta or whatever that get famous literally out of thin air but that's kind of the beauty of social media is that the landscape it's like the Wild West and you really can kind of do whatever you want and make it your own but I recommend also just doing things that make you happy even if it's not like the traditional things that you're seeing on your for you page like if you enjoy sewing or creating clothes or whatever post that it doesn't matter if only

five people are interested because those five people will share it with other people that are interested in it. That's how you build a community of people that love what you're doing. Nobody's going to fall in love with you for doing a lip sync trend that everyone else is doing. You can incorporate that, but that shouldn't be the main thing that you're doing. You have to find something that's yours and make a space for yourself in the landscape. Look at this business masterclass we've entered. I know, Steph, I'm like, we should be writing notes. I know, like, fuck.

I was just saying to Emma right before this, I was like, I don't understand like what time to post anything. And I was like, is there a rationale to any of this or is it all random? The world may never know. People say that there is, that's such a hard thing because I honestly don't know. I'll post whenever.

I mean, if it's two in the morning, I'm probably not gonna post it. Right. I post whenever, like even brands will say to me, post during your most engaged hours. And I'm like, I don't know when that is. You're like, what even is that? I just say like 12, you know?

Like, I don't know. How's noon? Actually, I do it at the best time. You I just say like 12, you know, like, I don't know. How's noon? I just, I think the best time, you have to think too, when you're on TikTok, it's all kids watching before and after school. So like 12 is like the best time on the West coast. Oh wait, no. How does, how does time zones?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 12, cause then it's 12 on the West coast and three on the East coast. And three, yeah, yeah, yeah. So East coast kids are getting out of school and the West coast kids are on their lunch break and then they'll be getting out in a few hours and they'll probably see your content still. So, or like, yeah, three also is good because it's three and six.

So there's like a few hours where you can kind of rationalize at the end of the day. If the video is going to go viral, it's not going to go viral because the time you posted it. You know what I mean? Totally. Yeah. It's like things will, right. 100 percent. It's kind of freeing in that way. It's like, yeah, sure.

Like there might be something to it. There also just might not. And again, we're just repeating ourselves, but it's like just posting in that way. It's like, yeah, sure. Like, there might be something to it. There also just might not. And again, we're just repeating ourselves, but it's like, just pose. Like just whatever. Your group photos are likely missing someone important. You. With Ad Me on the new Google Pixel 9 Pro, never rely on a stranger again. Add yourself to any group photo through the magic of AI.

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This has been a really amazing journey. Okay, so this last one is from Zoe and she is from Boston. I am a month into uni and in one of my class discussions I got paired up with a guy I think is kind of cute. Eventually I got his Instagram. After a few days I was hesitating about whether I should DM him but then he DMed me first. He sounded very chill and funny, however he texted too fast. Like I swear I'm a humorous person but I couldn't catch up with his jokes. He ended up going back to study and I feel

like a dummy for not being as quick witted or like a boring person that makes them want to stop talking to me. Am I getting friend-zoned early? How can I be more interesting in terms of talking with people?" I don't mean to laugh but I just I so relate to this really like... It's such an honest question. I mean... Such an honest... I'm laughing out of understanding. Emma, you haven't started, we'll let you start. It's kind of like a two part question. Like the question that she's ending with is like, how do I be more of like a humorous

person, but then there's also the component with this guy. First of all, I would not put a ton of weight over DMS of someone like, I do not put a ton of weight over DMs of someone. Like I do not put a ton of weight on texting in general. Every single person texts completely different. Like honestly, like I'm very short in text. I'm not much of a texter. And like people have said to me, are you mad at me? When I'm nowhere near mad at them, I was just like busy with something else at the same time. So it could truly just be busy. The way people punctuate, I know some people

look into that from a very granular lens, whether they put a period or an exclamation point. At the end of the day, I really think texting does not mean anything. I think if you really want to see if you guys connect, you should meet in person, especially when it comes to his humor and being quick-witted. See what that chemistry like is in person. Like maybe he is super funny and maybe your sense of humor is different. It's not necessarily about whether you can match him. It's whether does he match you? You know, like every single person is different and every single person has different kind of chemistry and that's okay. But I really wouldn't put too much judgment on this until you spend more time with him in person. That's my first thought.

I completely agree. In psychology, we call this catastrophizing. So literally, you guys meet in class, okay? You're like, I hope he DMs me. He does. You then have a really cute exchange. He's being funny with you. And then he goes back to study.

Like, honey, maybe he got a phone call from his mom and then you like realize, oh fuck, I gotta get back to, like don't hold someone's probable ADD against them. You know what I mean? This could literally just be like someone was like, I get it though, there's nothing worse than like when you're in an active, like not to date me, but like it feels like an instant messaging.

Like we're like, we're on AOL, it's aim, it's before Alyssa was born, you know? Like there's nothing like the instant instant like back and forth, back and forth. And then when it stops, it's so easy to read into that as as having weight as Emma said, but it literally is my therapist always always I'm laughing because I'm like this is me in a question. My therapist always reminds me to say to myself like what else could be true? Because my brain immediately just assumes the worst in people, not because I think the world's against me just because my brain is broken. And I love my friends and I love everyone I talk to. It's not about them, it's about me.

My point is, what else could be true? Yes, sure. Maybe one possibility is that he's like, you know what, she's not quick-witted enough. She passed this test of who can be the funniest over text in our first exchange, and that's it. She's out. Even saying it out loud, it's like, that's not it. And I say that with so much love. I'm not trying to make fun of you.

But it's like, realistically, like 999 other things happened in that moment, and you're fine. And the other thing too is realizing like, I'm realizing too so much lately that like how much negative thinking or like going with the worst case scenario fucks us. Like we all know that, like no shit, but if you really think about it,

if for instance you choose to believe what your brain is telling you, which is like, oh, like it's over, I fucked it up like, it's done, then it will be done. But if you calm yourself down, like rework that negative thought pattern, come back to earth, it'll be fine. Like don't, don't self-sabotage it before it's over. And how can I be more interesting in terms of talking with people? Girl, you already are.

He de-yem-do immediately after class. You're already doing everything great. I understand feeling not super adept at texting. I get it. I get it. It's an art. Honestly though, I'm really good at texting. I'm like, I love texting.

And I feel like, first of all, it's not that impressive of a skill. And second of all, I feel like the people that are the best at texting are usually not very interesting in real life, not to shit on myself. But you know what I mean? How many times do you match on an app and the banter over text is amazing and then in person it's like crickets? Don't put so much weight. That was a really convoluted, strange way to put myself down.

I think I'm great. But my point is that being great at texting isn't everything. It's a cute skill. It's an interesting skill, but as Emma said, let's put it to real life. I don't know how to talk like a Gen Z. Just meet in real life. Thank you. Alyssa? Yeah, I agree with what both of you guys said. I also, I just feel like number one, mindset

is important. It actually made me very sad that you said, how can I be more interesting because it really, like you guys said, it's not you. It really is just one of those situations where I'm funny as fuck, but some people don't think I'm funny because my first of all I also text terrible like I'm the type to send like a thumbs up instead of okay like I'm like a 60 year old dude like it's actually really bad like I don't even know I text like this do you know what I'm saying like I'm not good at it and also The Office is my favorite show so that's where I derive my sense of humor from and not everyone gets that so like when I meet someone and we don't have chemistry and this is this goes for friends like usually I'll meet people and I can click with anyone there are some people I have met where I'm like

damn like we really just have nothing to talk about and I don't understand like one joke that you're making and that's okay because not everybody is the exact same and so um yeah it's not a youth thing and also there's so many fish in the sea and you're does she say a junior in college or high school? No she said she's a month into uni. So she's a freshman. A month into uni. Yeah. Oh my god this is like the first person that you've saw and been like oh damn like you know they're good-looking like you'll find so many people and there will be someone where like you both are just laughing your asses off and it'll be amazing and you won't even think about this

interaction and it could be with this person once you like really spend time with them like you never know so it's not you you're amazing and you're great and you're so funny and you're so interesting so I agree I'm rereading I'm rereading it I think as I reread it it says he ended up going back to study so maybe again we need context this is like the classic joke of the show it's like we know we always need more information like so my answer was coming from a place of like, oh, he just like stopped responding. Maybe what happened was he was like, all right, I gotta go. Like maybe he cut it off. But again, I think all of our advice like still applies that like, even if he ended it short, much like Alyssa saying, like thumbs up, like sometimes people just end things abruptly

and there's no there there. It's just, it's just a style of communication. Or like maybe he was like, oh, this is my first time talking to her, I don't wanna do too much. Yes, wait, that's a great point. Maybe he's like, oh, I'm too weak or I'm too over eager. Like, you know what's, wait, that's such a good point. It was like, when he was like saying you,

when you said he was texting too fast, I was like, oh, she's gonna be saying that like he was too over eager and it was too much. Cause I like it. She got the ick. Yeah, she got the ick. And then, oh wait, we've solved it. He was trying to play it cool. Done, case closed.

Honestly, that's one of the reasons I hate texting because I feel like there's so many games involved too. I literally, I've talked to people that calculate how many minutes it's been since the last person texted them and won't text them back a minute before that. Because they don't want to see two acres. You're lying. Oh yeah. In their 20s they do that. It's crazy. I'm like...

Wait, Alyssa, how old are you? Can you say? Do you care? I turned 25 in January. Oh, look at her. That's amazing. I love peppercorn. I remember that. Love. Oh my God. Alyssa, if you're comfortable, I'd love to end if do you have a question you want to pose to the group? What would you write in? It does not have to be super deep.

What question would I write in to Lucy? Yeah. Fuck. Well, I guess I would say who should I pick, Reed or Isaac, but I already did. Okay. Well, who would you? Okay. Ella aside, Alyssa, who would you choose?

Also I'm going to put Easton in there too. Oh my God. Okay. I feel like it's a little unexpected, but me personally, I would choose Easton. Mm-hmm. Me too. Me too. I wear my team Easton sweatshirt.

You need the funny guy. I love funny guys and I also love like the person that's just like an asshole to everyone, but they'll kill for you. And I feel like you can do that too, but he's not as funny as Easton, obviously. You could train Easton to be exactly how you want, and that's what I want. I so agree. You can train Easton to be a better guy. I don't think you can train Reed to be funny.

No, you can't train him to be funny. And also, he's going to do things people don't like. I feel like Easton's the type where you say like don't do that again bad boy and he goes yes I won't do that again. Yeah, I Can feel Chris caffaro getting offended? Actually asked me this when I did the the Royal boys podcast and I said Easton also and Chris was so upset He was living it up though, He was like, hell yeah. That's so funny.

Wow. What about between Isaac and Reed? Honestly, Reed, because Isaac gives me, it's actually so strange because when I was reading the script, I was like, damn, Isaac kind of gives me me personally, the ick, just like the type type of dude, like no shame, no nothing, because obviously like they're just so kind and so sweet. But like, I feel like when you're like kind of like

rough around the edges, you don't necessarily want someone that's nice and sweet all the time. But it's so weird because too, like I didn't feel like when I was shooting like the scenes with him, I didn't think that I would shooting, when I was recording the scenes with him, I didn't think that I would... When I was recording the scenes with him, I didn't think that I would have as much of an emotional reaction as I do when I record the scenes with Reed and we're screaming at each other or whatever.

And I remember the most unexpected point where I had to say, I had to do this voiceover line where I said, even after I broke his heart, he looked at me like I was his favorite person in the world. And I could hear that line. I started bawling my eyes out. It was so embarrassing. I was joking me. So I would pick Reed, but Isaac is just so like so special.

Any lady would be lucky to have him. Also low key, Edgar was so fucking wise. I don't know if any of you got a chance to listen to the episode that came out in real time this week, though obviously when this episode airs, it will be weeks from now. He's just like a 99-year-old Buddha in the shape of a 20-something male. Truly the wisest. We were sitting and I think we were on break and we were sitting there and we had a conversation. I can't remember what words he was using, but he used

and I use big words too. Yeah. Okay. I'm a postgraduate. That's right. He used a word so that I've never heard. I literally looked at him and I said, where the fuck did you learn that word? I was like, dude, I sound so not eloquent next. Like, come on, don't ever put us on a podcast together. You'll make me sound real dumb. He's so wise and he's so like intelligent. It was so funny. Cause it's like, I feel like Emma is very like chill, very grounded.

And I'm like this like neurotic Jew. And then like, he comes on and he's like, I have a ritual with my coffee. I'm like, what the fuck? He's so cute. I love him so much. He's just so cute. He's the best. He's the best. Wow. I mean, is this it? Sad. Have we reached the end? I know. I don't want it to end. Alyssa, we don't know yet when we will be reunited

for season three. Theoretically, it's happening hopefully soon. I just want you to know that I cannot wait for the hug that we will share when we are back together again. I'm so excited. I love that photo of us and I'm just like. I know. Alyssa's like a tomato sobbing and I'm like, my daughter. When we met, we've talked about this before, but I really can't stress enough, it was this very effortless connection. It was very weird. It was like, oh yeah, safety done.

Yeah. No, we're the same person. That's why. You're like the one side of the brain and I'm the other side. Yes. And together, worlds collide. Yeah, it's amazing. And Emma's the stem just. And together, worlds collide.

Yeah, it's amazing. Just keeping us together. The voice of reason. I am honored to be that stem. Yes. You are the trunk of tree of life of the, the trunk of the tree of life. Okay. I just want to be quiet and keep, keep hearing more metaphor stuff.

Yeah. I mean, I'll just keep going. Alyssa, in your life right now, what is, just to end on a fun, what's not really a fun note, but a pensive note, is there any kind of affirmation or just words to live by that you're clinging to right now in just whatever phase of life you're currently in? What are you kind of constantly telling yourself to get through the day? Well, I tell myself I'm a bad bitch every single day. That's it.

Whether it's out loud or in my head, I always say that. Even sometimes I'll walk into a room and all the thoughts, especially when it comes to auditions and stuff, like, oh, there's going to be people better looking than me. There's going to be people that can act better than me, like whatever. You walk into the room and the thing is you have to do it with grace. You have to be humble and you have to tell yourself you're a bad bitch. I never ever ever want to tell myself something. Sometimes you can tweak in your brain and then be like, oh, I'm better than other people.

I never ever ever want to cross that threshold because one, it's so apparent. Two, it's self-sabotage. But I just try to tell myself that, you know, what will come to me will come to me. You know, there's been like so many opportunities where I'm like, oh my God, like I'm going to book this job or I'm going to do this and then I don't. And instead of like putting myself down and being like, why didn't I get this, blah, blah, blah, blah, who got it instead? Like it's more so about like inviting the universe to give you the opportunities and the guidance

that you need to grow and move forward. And the things that are meant for you will present themselves. Was that too much? Too long of an explanation? No, perfect. That was perfect. You're a bad bitch, but a humble bitch.

Yes, bad and humble. Title of ep. Bad and humble, that's a great episode title. I'm gonna steal that. Also, Alyssa, if you haven't auditioned for the Legally Blonde show, I hope you do because hello. I'm planning on it. But to be honest, that was one of the moments where I'm like, it's okay, you're a bad bitch. I was doing it and I was like, fuck this. I can't do it.

I was just so like, I couldn't get the lines right. I know. It felt like so much pressure. So much pressure. And then you see on TikTok all the other girls that are like, I'm auditioning to play Elle Woods and they look exactly like Reese Witherspoon. And I'm like, fuck.

See, I feel like you do. I feel like you do. I've never heard that, but I'll take it. I definitely do. I definitely see it. For the very last time, we don't want your questions anymore because it's over. It's a good point, I should have written that.

I'll make a new outro on the fly. Well, thank you all so much for participating in this experiment that was Lattes with Lucy. It literally meant the world to me, Stephanie Sherry, who plays Lucy and also is her inside and out. And Emma, I mean, wow, like the dynamic duo that is us will forever live in infamy online. I am really just so appreciative. I really hope that the fans got something out of it for anyone listening that just felt like it was a fun thing to listen to or in any way inspiring. We appreciate you.

And Alyssa, I mean, no better person to end the show with than our leading lady. So thank you so much for being here and continue to listen and keep an eye out for season three. Yeah, stay tuned. News is coming soon. That's all I can say. Coming soon.