The Royals with Roya and Kate - Trooping the Colour
Episode Date: June 13, 2024Why being at Trooping of the Colour is so important to the Royal Family, and Kate and Roya discuss the possibilities of public appearances by the Princess of Wales. And why Kate was photographed with ...(football) royalty and Roya was suspiciously close to an attempt to deface a portrait of the King. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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                                         Kate.
                                         
                                         Roya.
                                         
                                         Single buttons, white plume on the left-hand side.
                                         
                                         Grenadier guards.
                                         
                                         Very good.
                                         
                                         Buttons and fives, white and green plume on the left-hand side.
                                         
                                         Welsh guards.
                                         
                                         Kate, we the school swat, the only pupil to go to bed on time
                                         
    
                                         reading the works of Dostoevsky and the Illustrated Guide to British Army Uniforms.
                                         
                                         Uh, yes.
                                         
                                         Hello, Kate.
                                         
                                         Hello, Roya.
                                         
                                         Hello, listener.
                                         
                                         Hello, viewer.
                                         
                                         How do we know that it's not the same person?
                                         
                                         Well, quite.
                                         
    
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                                         Welcome to The Royals with you, Roya Neeker. Roya, to me. And you, Kate Manzi. Hi, Kate.
                                         
                                         And together, we're the royal editors of The Sunday Times and The Times. Shouldn't The Times
                                         
                                         come first? We are older. Whatever. So we are the royal editors, but once a year, we need to become
                                         
                                         defence correspondents. Indeed, as this Saturday, it's the big one, trooping the colour.
                                         
    
                                         And we will be going through the meaning, the importance, the regiments, the horses,
                                         
                                         there'll be a lot of horses, and the royals.
                                         
                                         Who's there at horse cars and who might be on the balcony for the flypast?
                                         
                                         This is the King's official birthday after all.
                                         
                                         after all. But first, let's chat about what you've been up to. I saw a very impressive selfie, Kate,
                                         
                                         in our Royals WhatsApp group this week. Oh, we've just divulged we've got a WhatsApp group.
                                         
                                         We've got a group. Do tell. I went to see Prince William. Look how pleased you look. It's not because I'm... I know.
                                         
                                         It's because of what's coming.
                                         
    
                                         William was with Harry, Roya.
                                         
                                         Harry.
                                         
                                         William and Harry together.
                                         
                                         William and Harry.
                                         
                                         We can exclusively reveal.
                                         
                                         Hold the front page.
                                         
                                         You didn't file that.
                                         
                                         Well, I did, but it's not quite as billed.
                                         
    
                                         It's not the headline you were hoping for.
                                         
                                         It wasn't Prince Harry, was it?
                                         
                                         It was Prince William with King Harry Kane,
                                         
                                         captain of the England football squad.
                                         
                                         Super cool. And what was he up to?
                                         
                                         Well, William was there at the home of the FA.
                                         
                                         Why?
                                         
                                         St George's Park to say goodbye and good luck to the England squad
                                         
    
                                         as they flew out to Germany for the Euro 2024 tournament.
                                         
                                         That's football or soccer,
                                         
                                         if you're American. And he's president of the FA, isn't he? He's president of the FA.
                                         
                                         And he went up to give him a little pep talk and hand out these shirts to each one of the players to say, you know, here's a shirt, one of the ones that they'll be wearing during the tournament.
                                         
                                         And inside was really nice because they had like a little sort of pamphlet for each player,
                                         
                                         which was specific to them.
                                         
                                         So Harry Kane's had pictures of his club
                                         
                                         where he'd played as a youngster
                                         
    
                                         and pictures of him as a little boy kicking a ball around.
                                         
                                         And it was supposed to inspire them all
                                         
                                         to remember why they loved the game.
                                         
                                         So not the kind of Ferraris and all the cash
                                         
                                         and adulation that they have nowadays,
                                         
                                         but, you know, kicking the ball against the wall in the local park or whatever.
                                         
                                         And they were all really touched by it.
                                         
                                         He gave them this kind of pep talk.
                                         
    
                                         And he said that he'd been on the school run that morning
                                         
                                         and he'd asked his kids what advice he should give to the England squad.
                                         
                                         And transpired that Prince Louis had said,
                                         
                                         whatever you're eating, just double it.
                                         
                                         Just double it.
                                         
                                         Just eat loads.
                                         
                                         Double the portions. and go running around
                                         
                                         the pitch with big tummies see how you get on against Denmark good luck with that Harry Kane
                                         
    
                                         said I'm not sure the nutritionist would agree with that but he did say um when I spoke to him
                                         
                                         afterwards which was very nice and I had to take a picture otherwise you know you just my son would
                                         
                                         kill me yeah and he wouldn't believe that I'd met Harry Kane you see if I hadn't take a picture, otherwise my son would kill me. And he wouldn't believe that I'd met Harry Kane, you see,
                                         
                                         if I hadn't had picture evidence.
                                         
                                         Afterwards, Harry said that William will fly out,
                                         
                                         as they've announced today actually,
                                         
                                         that William's going to fly out to the Denmark match next week.
                                         
                                         But also he said that William is such a fan
                                         
    
                                         and he's so keen to be president of the FA
                                         
                                         that he's always in touch with them during the tournament.
                                         
                                         So he's going to be phoning Southgate, Gareth Southgate,
                                         
                                         the manager of England, and some of the players
                                         
                                         during the course of the tournament.
                                         
                                         So he's really going to be in touch with them,
                                         
                                         getting that kind of inside track.
                                         
                                         He's like the bossy dad on the sidelines, isn't he?
                                         
    
                                         He's like, come on, that wasn't that.
                                         
                                         But he's such a fan as well.
                                         
                                         He was sort of standing in front of all his a fan as well he did seem he was sort of
                                         
                                         standing in front
                                         
                                         of all his
                                         
                                         kind of idols
                                         
                                         and he did seem
                                         
                                         sort of slightly
                                         
    
                                         nervous
                                         
                                         giving this
                                         
                                         off the cuff
                                         
                                         speech
                                         
                                         but it's quite
                                         
                                         funny to see
                                         
                                         him like that
                                         
                                         I think
                                         
    
                                         he's sort of
                                         
                                         like a little
                                         
                                         kid going
                                         
                                         you're really
                                         
                                         Harry Kane
                                         
                                         and it was
                                         
                                         it was really
                                         
                                         fun
                                         
    
                                         fun
                                         
                                         engagement
                                         
                                         good
                                         
                                         we love that
                                         
                                         we love
                                         
                                         and it's good
                                         
                                         that you know,
                                         
                                         his support for the FA is key, isn't it?
                                         
    
                                         Because there was a story last week
                                         
                                         that the King had quietly dropped
                                         
                                         becoming patron of the FA.
                                         
                                         But what does that actually mean?
                                         
                                         You know, the Queen was patron
                                         
                                         of the football season.
                                         
                                         She was not a fan, was she really?
                                         
                                         She wasn't a footy fan.
                                         
    
                                         She didn't go along to football matches.
                                         
                                         She wasn't there waving the,
                                         
                                         whatever that thing is they wave,
                                         
                                         the ticketing thing.
                                         
                                         William has been the sort of royal champion for a while.
                                         
                                         So that's just the royal family being realistic and actually going,
                                         
                                         we're not just going to, Charles going,
                                         
                                         I'm not just going to be a figurehead of the FA
                                         
    
                                         and pretend that I'm really into football because I'm not.
                                         
                                         William's already doing the job, quietly ditch that.
                                         
                                         Although Charles is interested in England's outcome
                                         
                                         because at the King's Foundation Awards.
                                         
                                         He sort of feigned interest in the Iceland result Foundation Awards... He sort of feigned interest
                                         
                                         in the Iceland result, didn't he?
                                         
                                         He feigned interest with Beckham.
                                         
                                         He was sort of saying,
                                         
    
                                         well, you know, that defeat against Iceland,
                                         
                                         the 1-0 defeat.
                                         
                                         You don't want to expend all your energy.
                                         
                                         You could just expend some energy
                                         
                                         and beat Iceland.
                                         
                                         He was saying, David, you know,
                                         
                                         it is bad news, I must say.
                                         
                                         And David said,
                                         
    
                                         I don't think we should read too much into that.
                                         
                                         And that's because David Beckham
                                         
                                         has become an ambassador for the King's Foundation.
                                         
                                         And they have been sharing tips on honeybees, haven't they?
                                         
                                         So they're mates.
                                         
                                         And he's doing charity work for the King.
                                         
                                         Rod Stewart made a great joke that David's...
                                         
                                         He gave that off-the-cuff speech going,
                                         
    
                                         it's lovely to be here and I'm very honoured to be a knight.
                                         
                                         And David, yours is coming soon.
                                         
                                         We know David Beckham
                                         
                                         has wanted a knighthood
                                         
                                         for a long time
                                         
                                         and to be fair
                                         
                                         deserves one I would say
                                         
                                         probably
                                         
    
                                         that's another podcast
                                         
                                         yes
                                         
                                         and when he becomes
                                         
                                         Sir David
                                         
                                         Lady Victoria
                                         
                                         oh yeah
                                         
                                         let him have it
                                         
                                         I think
                                         
    
                                         well
                                         
                                         he's rung up now
                                         
                                         on the King's Foundation
                                         
                                         so there's hope for him yet
                                         
                                         yes but enough
                                         
                                         about my week
                                         
                                         Roya
                                         
                                         because I wasn't
                                         
    
                                         the only one
                                         
                                         sending photos
                                         
                                         in the group chat
                                         
                                         well dodgy
                                         
                                         it seems
                                         
                                         you were
                                         
                                         suspiciously close
                                         
                                         to the King's portrait
                                         
    
                                         the year one
                                         
                                         around the time
                                         
                                         it was defaced
                                         
                                         albeit not permanently
                                         
                                         but was it you and what's your alibi? What were you doing there?
                                         
                                         I strongly deny any insinuation that I went to the Philip Moll Gallery armed with cheese
                                         
                                         or any kind of Wallace and Gromit paraphernalia.
                                         
                                         So let's just break this down.
                                         
    
                                         For people who don't already know what we're talking about or rambling about.
                                         
                                         You might remember, those of you who listen to us, and thank you very much, those of you who do,
                                         
                                         that a few weeks ago, you and I talked about the first portrait of King Charles,
                                         
                                         which was Jonathan Yeo's very red portrait of Charles.
                                         
                                         It was red.
                                         
                                         And the butterfly motif.
                                         
                                         And after that was unveiled publicly at the Palace with Charles going,
                                         
                                         oh, it's marvellous, it went to hang in the Philip Mould Gallery. It's a commission for
                                         
    
                                         the Drapers Company, went to hang in the Philip Mould Gallery on Pall Mall. And I kept saying to
                                         
                                         myself, I must go and see it in person. I must go and see it in the flesh because I just see it on
                                         
                                         sort of screens and my laptop and social media. And I actually, I think I made a judgment about this painting. There are bits of it I like, bits of it I don't like, but I want to see it on sort of screens and my laptop and social media and I actually I think I made a judgment
                                         
                                         about this painting there are bits of it I like bits but I don't like but I want to see it in the
                                         
                                         flesh so I had a meeting in the area with Animal Rising no yesterday morning Animal Rising I can't
                                         
                                         confirm who I was with and I thought I must pop around the corner and see it so I popped around
                                         
                                         the corner having been in a So I popped around the corner,
                                         
                                         having been in a meeting and having not been on my phone and didn't know what sort of news was
                                         
    
                                         going on, genuinely, and I popped in and noticed a lot of people in the Philip Mill gallery.
                                         
                                         And you arrived in the aftermath. Someone with a camera sort of stuck a microphone in my face
                                         
                                         and said, what do you think of it? So I very honestly, without checking who was around me,
                                         
                                         started saying, you know, I really like it. I I love the butterfly motif I don't love the red red redness of it I think the face is brilliant I'm not sure about this turn around and saw Jonathan
                                         
                                         Yeo standing in the corner the artist and thought oops uh and then I thought no I think he'll I
                                         
                                         think he'll enjoy my honesty honesty yes and then I thought candor and then I so I went over and
                                         
                                         was like,
                                         
                                         I sort of said hello to him and asked what he was doing there.
                                         
    
                                         And he kind of looked a bit astonished and went, well, this.
                                         
                                         And showed me his photo.
                                         
                                         It was the Animal Rising people defacing it.
                                         
                                         And I was like, oh, I've just found myself.
                                         
                                         Just happened to be passing.
                                         
                                         And there I was.
                                         
                                         And so I had a really interesting chat with him actually about it.
                                         
                                         So what happened is the Animal Rising activists... Nothing to do with me activist had come into the Philip Mould gallery where it's hanging,
                                         
    
                                         where you can see this portrait for free,
                                         
                                         and put a kind of Wallace and Gromit head,
                                         
                                         Wallace head, where the king's head is.
                                         
                                         They used like water spray to stick it on, didn't they?
                                         
                                         Yeah, with a kind of little brush thing that, you know, you might see window cleaners with.
                                         
                                         And then there was a little caption, wasn't there look Wallace grommet I don't even want to really
                                         
                                         give give their slogan the kind of no time of day but the reason they did it they say is because
                                         
                                         King Charles is patron of the RSPCA and the RSPCA run a scheme called RSPCA assured which is to do
                                         
    
                                         with animal welfare across farms and a recent report showed that across all of those farms that have that scheme, there are breaches in terms of the levels of animal
                                         
                                         welfare that are expected. And so this was Animal Rising making a point with an amusing
                                         
                                         mollusk and grommet, a bit of cheese and a head over King Charles's head. I mean, in the olden
                                         
                                         days, they might have been sent to the Tower for that. It was an easy target, wasn't it? It was an easy target.
                                         
                                         And they saw it, and Jonathan and Philip Mould saw it coming
                                         
                                         because before that painting was hung
                                         
                                         for the public to view,
                                         
                                         it was actually covered with a discreet sheet of Perspex.
                                         
    
                                         Ah, very wise.
                                         
                                         While they recorded themselves pasting it on,
                                         
                                         it actually didn't touch the painting.
                                         
                                         It was on the Perspex.
                                         
                                         It was removed very quickly.
                                         
                                         My favourite bit of yesterday was a detail
                                         
                                         that was slightly lost in some of the coverage,
                                         
                                         which is that the two protesters,
                                         
    
                                         who had ardently filmed themselves
                                         
                                         trying to deface this painting,
                                         
                                         failed because it was peeled off very quickly,
                                         
                                         hung around for two hours
                                         
                                         waiting to be arrested by the police.
                                         
                                         Really?
                                         
                                         And the police just went,
                                         
                                         nah, didn't even come down to the gallery
                                         
    
                                         and in the end
                                         
                                         they just took
                                         
                                         themselves off
                                         
                                         hopefully coping
                                         
                                         and the police
                                         
                                         were like
                                         
                                         no we're good
                                         
                                         we're good thanks
                                         
    
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         that's brilliant
                                         
                                         I thought it was
                                         
                                         so unfair as well
                                         
                                         because the king's
                                         
                                         been such a champion
                                         
                                         of farmers
                                         
                                         hasn't he
                                         
    
                                         and animal rights
                                         
                                         and it was just
                                         
                                         a kind of easy
                                         
                                         cheap target
                                         
                                         I think
                                         
                                         Jonathan was very sanguine about it and said look just a kind of easy cheap target i think jonathan was very sanguine about it and
                                         
                                         said look you know in a in a climate of accelerating and increasing protests over
                                         
                                         public protest with people you know throwing things at mona lisa and you know just up all
                                         
    
                                         the other day we saw them um you know people constantly sort of targeting artworks they saw
                                         
                                         it coming they put up the perspex glass. And as Jonathan said, this painting has divided opinion
                                         
                                         and has had very strong,
                                         
                                         strong reactions to it.
                                         
                                         And I suppose this was another one.
                                         
                                         So he was quite sanguinary about it
                                         
                                         and there was no harm done.
                                         
                                         But someone who does love the painting,
                                         
    
                                         which emerged,
                                         
                                         and we wrote about it in the Times,
                                         
                                         is the king who likes it so much
                                         
                                         that he wants to have it hung
                                         
                                         in Buckingham Palace
                                         
                                         for a certain part of the summer.
                                         
                                         He's going to have it there for a little bit, isn't he?
                                         
                                         So that's a real...
                                         
    
                                         When he won't be there.
                                         
                                         Kind of...
                                         
                                         Sorry I'm not here.
                                         
                                         I love it so much, but hang it when I'm not there.
                                         
                                         Come and have an audience with my portrait instead.
                                         
                                         We could do that.
                                         
                                         They should send it up to Balmoral,
                                         
                                         and it should be there when everyone comes to Balmoral for their summer holidays.
                                         
    
                                         Hiya.
                                         
                                         Hi.
                                         
                                         it up to Balmoral and it should be there when everyone comes to Balmoral for their summer holidays. Hiya. Hi. So before we pop the kettle on and have another fanfare and a chocolate biscuit
                                         
                                         Kate, should we run through the other talking points of the week so far? The key talking point,
                                         
                                         the one and only talking point in Wales yesterday. Now, less of the sarcasm, Roya. I don't know what you mean. We're talking about Prince William.
                                         
                                         And his absolute passion for...
                                         
                                         Seaweed.
                                         
                                         Seaweed.
                                         
    
                                         And he even knows what the Welsh word is,
                                         
                                         but I'm not going to say it.
                                         
                                         Did he say it?
                                         
                                         No, but he did it on the Twitter.
                                         
                                         He needs to brush up on his Welsh, doesn't he?
                                         
                                         Doesn't he?
                                         
                                         I mean, he ought to a little bit.
                                         
                                         Not Google translating stuff for the Twitter
                                         
    
                                         when he goes to Wales.
                                         
                                         But seriously, he is celebrating seaweed because he thinks,
                                         
                                         and lots of very clever scientists think,
                                         
                                         that in fact this could be a big saviour for the planet.
                                         
                                         Rather than having disposable plastic one use
                                         
                                         and we throw it away for our takeaway food and such like, like you can have that stuff made of seaweed you can have everything so he went to see this
                                         
                                         not polar company which has won an award well from the earth shop prize which is william's big
                                         
                                         environmental legacy project and now you know not only are they doing takeaway food boxes out of
                                         
    
                                         seaweed although we look like normal boxes you can can't eat them afterwards, I don't think.
                                         
                                         And he even had a golf tee.
                                         
                                         This guy's now making golf tees made out of seaweed.
                                         
                                         So rather than all this like bits of plastic
                                         
                                         that then get pinged off into the, you know, bunkers.
                                         
                                         I don't play golf, but you know, the sort of bunkers or whatever.
                                         
                                         This will then biodegrade.
                                         
                                         I mean, I did think, are golf tees really the scourge of the environment?
                                         
    
                                         But never mind. It's a good idea. And if you can kind of use seaweed, we're on an island
                                         
                                         nation, we should be able to let the kelp help, as we said in our Times Leader today.
                                         
                                         Oh, gee.
                                         
                                         It's true, because also they're a big kind of carbon neutraliser. Yeah.
                                         
                                         But you can have them off coast, not doing anybody any harm,
                                         
                                         but just doing the environment a tonne of good.
                                         
                                         Charles is the climate change king.
                                         
                                         Is William going to be the seaweed king?
                                         
    
                                         Neptune.
                                         
                                         I like the Earthshot thing because it's a kind of trying to get special,
                                         
                                         new, innovative ideas to save the planet.
                                         
                                         And scaling them up.
                                         
                                         And scaling them up.
                                         
                                         So hopefully we can, you know,
                                         
                                         one of these bright sparks,
                                         
                                         he's probably about 12 years old,
                                         
    
                                         can come up with a way to solve the world's problems
                                         
                                         and Bob's your auntie.
                                         
                                         I think the 10-year goal of Earthshot
                                         
                                         is slightly ambitious,
                                         
                                         but again, it's from the moonshot.
                                         
                                         It's from JF Kennedy's moonshot,
                                         
                                         the idea that in a decade,
                                         
                                         you could put a fire under this,
                                         
    
                                         you know, these innovators to get something going,
                                         
                                         get some kind of deadline,
                                         
                                         get some sort of passion,
                                         
                                         and put a man on the moon,
                                         
                                         which they did in America.
                                         
                                         So borrowing on from that very famous example,
                                         
                                         Earthshot is the plan that we can save the planet in a decade.
                                         
                                         Let's come up with some really, really funky ideas.
                                         
    
                                         Seaweed's one of them.
                                         
                                         So, you know.
                                         
                                         So what we're saying here is, the top line is, seaweed has got a massive royal seal of approval.
                                         
                                         With all that seaweed chat, Kate, you know what I'm thinking?
                                         
                                         I'm thinking tea and then the main event.
                                         
                                         Trooping the colour.
                                         
                                         Tea and biscuits with a side of seaweed.
                                         
                                         And then what we love about Trooping the Colour. Tea and biscuits with a side of seaweed. And then what we love
                                         
    
                                         about Trooping the Colour. Hooray! Welcome back to the Royals with Roya and Kate. This weekend,
                                         
                                         London's Horse Guards Parade will be filled with the Household Cavalry, the King's Troop Royal
                                         
                                         Artillery, the Foot Guards, and in particular, number nine company and number 12 company,
                                         
                                         Irish Guards. There will be almost a thousand soldiers of the British Army's household
                                         
                                         division, 250 musicians, 20 pipers, 240 military working horses, and this will all be part of the
                                         
                                         spectacle that is Trooping the Colour, with the Irish Guards Regiment having the privilege this year to troop its colour, or flag, through the ranks. It's going to be unapologetically Irish,
                                         
                                         says Major General James Bowder, who's the Major General commanding the Household Division.
                                         
                                         So, you need to know your regiments, Kate. Yes, Roya. Red Tunic, White Plume, and Blue Tunic,
                                         
    
                                         Red Plume. Blue Tunic, Red Plume, Blues and Royals, and Red Tunic, White Plume and Blue Tunic Red Plume. Blue Tunic Red Plume, Blues and Royals,
                                         
                                         and Red Tunic White Plume, the Lifeguards, both household cavalry.
                                         
                                         Right, one for you, Roya.
                                         
                                         Who is Marmaduke Mulligrubs?
                                         
                                         Well, Marmaduke Mulligrubs, let me tell you, Kate,
                                         
                                         is the horse who is going to be ridden by the commanding officer
                                         
                                         of the King's Troop Royal Horse Artillery at Trooping the Colour.
                                         
                                         And what a splendid fellow Marmaduke Mulligrab's his, standing at 17.2.
                                         
    
                                         So he's a big old boy.
                                         
                                         He's got a lovely name, marvellous name.
                                         
                                         Tell me about the horses.
                                         
                                         They are going to be, never mind the royals, the horses.
                                         
                                         It's all about the horses.
                                         
                                         It's all about the horses, Trooping the Colour.
                                         
                                         Well, I always think whenever I watch Trooping the Colour,
                                         
                                         which is every year,
                                         
    
                                         and I would watch it even if I wasn't doing my job,
                                         
                                         I always love, for me, the standout shot
                                         
                                         is always the sovereign's escort of the household cavalry
                                         
                                         riding behind and in front of the carriage in the divisions
                                         
                                         from Buckingham Palace up to Horse Guards.
                                         
                                         And it's not just the sight of it, it's the sound of it.
                                         
                                         I thought you were going to say the smell then.
                                         
                                         The smell too.
                                         
    
                                         But it's that gorgeous clinking of the state kit,
                                         
                                         the House on Calvary state kit.
                                         
                                         It's the wonderful noise of the hooves, which for me is...
                                         
                                         We need some coconuts in here so we can recreate it
                                         
                                         in a kind of archer's style.
                                         
                                         And I just think, you know, when I look at that and you see a little bit of it on state occasions
                                         
                                         and, you know, for state visits and big things like weddings, it's such a gorgeous sight.
                                         
                                         But you also know quite a lot about what goes on behind the scenes in the preparation for this.
                                         
    
                                         Because tell us about your household cavalry riding experience.
                                         
                                         I'm lucky enough to be a civilian support rider for the household cavalry.
                                         
                                         So I help to exercise the horses regularly during the week, a few mornings a week, very early before I start my working day.
                                         
                                         And let me tell you, it's a very lovely way to start the day.
                                         
                                         So I do know a lot of the horses that are on parade and the
                                         
                                         brilliant soldiers and they are all magnificent beasts, human and equine. But there are going to
                                         
                                         be some very special horses on parade this year because of course back in April we all saw those
                                         
                                         quite upsetting scenes of a handful of the House of Cavalry horses out on their watering order who got spooked by an incident involving something on the street,
                                         
    
                                         some of whom got loose and two of whom went galloping for miles
                                         
                                         and ended up in Limehouse.
                                         
                                         Of course, people remember the images of the grey horse covered in blood.
                                         
                                         Luckily, all those horses are fine.
                                         
                                         Three of them, Trojan, Tennyson and Vanquish are back at the barracks in Knightsbridge
                                         
                                         and have been back on duty for a while. Two of them, Vida and Quaker up at the Horse Trust in
                                         
                                         Buckinghamshire recuperating. But the three, Trojan, Tennyson and Vanquish are doing so well,
                                         
                                         they are going to be on parade for the King on Saturday. That's a nice happy ending, isn't it?
                                         
    
                                         The humans were well, as we should probably point I think the humans All humans were well as well
                                         
                                         All the humans who were involved
                                         
                                         in that incident are all fine
                                         
                                         all the horses are too
                                         
                                         but I think that just shows
                                         
                                         you know just shows
                                         
                                         the dedicated care
                                         
                                         that the vets at the House of Kerry
                                         
    
                                         have given them
                                         
                                         There's another magnificent beast
                                         
                                         that's taking part as well
                                         
                                         The king
                                         
                                         No not him
                                         
                                         Someone hairier
                                         
                                         almost as big as a horse
                                         
                                         It's Seamus
                                         
    
                                         the Irish wolfhound
                                         
                                         Seamus And he's gothound. Seamus.
                                         
                                         And he's got a proper name and it's, I'm going to pronounce this wrong probably.
                                         
                                         Turlock Moor is his proper name.
                                         
                                         Apparently he's named after an ancient high king of Ireland
                                         
                                         and he's the mascot of the Irish guards.
                                         
                                         He's a lovely little hairy thing.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Anyway, enough about the animals.
                                         
                                         Should we talk about the people?
                                         
                                         Go on then.
                                         
                                         They're going to be taking part.
                                         
                                         I suppose so.
                                         
                                         At Trooping.
                                         
                                         Well, who won't be there, I suppose.
                                         
                                         Well, who will be there and who won't be there?
                                         
    
                                         That's the question on everyone's lips.
                                         
                                         Speaking about the horses, the king is not going to be on horseback.
                                         
                                         No, he's not.
                                         
                                         Buckingham Palace have said he's not.
                                         
                                         I mean, last year he was on Naughty Noble,
                                         
                                         the mare that was given by the Canadian Mounties as a gift.
                                         
                                         And it was kind of,
                                         
                                         I don't know how you would say this.
                                         
    
                                         She was quite feisty.
                                         
                                         In horse terms.
                                         
                                         Skittish.
                                         
                                         She was skittish
                                         
                                         and the groom came out
                                         
                                         and sort of was wafted away
                                         
                                         by Charles saying,
                                         
                                         no, no, don't worry,
                                         
    
                                         I've got it under control.
                                         
                                         But I did wonder
                                         
                                         if that was part of the reason
                                         
                                         given obviously his cancer treatment
                                         
                                         and then, you know,
                                         
                                         doesn't want to ride
                                         
                                         Naughty Noble again,
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
    
                                         No, I think Naughty think naughty noble naughty noble is will be on the pouring away at the sidelines this year and the king is going
                                         
                                         to be reviewing the troops from an ascot landau carriage um so that's going to look a bit different
                                         
                                         a little break with the tradition there we will have the royal colonels riding behind him so
                                         
                                         william and the duke of edinburgh and the Princess Royal will be on horseback.
                                         
                                         But no Andrew?
                                         
                                         No Andrew.
                                         
                                         Andrew doesn't get to hang out at Trooping the Colour anymore,
                                         
                                         no longer being a working royal.
                                         
    
                                         But the question, I suppose, on everyone's lips is,
                                         
                                         will the Princess of Wales be there?
                                         
                                         And, you know, I think not, which will disappoint people.
                                         
                                         But I think she will be.
                                         
                                         Oh, really?
                                         
                                         I have a suspicion.
                                         
                                         Well, listen.
                                         
                                         Maybe you have a bet.
                                         
    
                                         I don't think she will.
                                         
                                         I think she will.
                                         
                                         See how she feels on the day.
                                         
                                         My suspicion is Kensington Palace have been very tight-lipped on this.
                                         
                                         So we've heard nothing from Kensington Palace on it, keeping very tight-lipped on this so we've heard nothing from Kensington Palace on it keeping very tight-lipped we know that we've all been very careful of not speculating
                                         
                                         about the princess and her recovery she's still undergoing preventative chemotherapy treatment
                                         
                                         I was thinking about it today and thinking how will that all look in terms of you've got Prince
                                         
                                         George Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis who normally ride in the carriage with her when William's riding on the parade. Then you have
                                         
    
                                         them back at the palace on the balcony. And I was just thinking if she feels well enough,
                                         
                                         and of course it's up to her, it's, you know, one day you feel okay. One day you might feel
                                         
                                         less okay when you're having chemotherapy treatment, the king has said he's going through it himself my feeling is
                                         
                                         if she feels well enough on the day
                                         
                                         I think she would want to be there
                                         
                                         to support the children and her family
                                         
                                         it's quite a
                                         
                                         it would be quite a comeback though wouldn't it
                                         
    
                                         it would be
                                         
                                         but I
                                         
                                         do you know what I think
                                         
                                         even if she is there on the day
                                         
                                         I don't think it would be a comeback
                                         
                                         and I think there would be very careful
                                         
                                         handling of it and messaging of it from the palace
                                         
                                         that, as they've always said to us,
                                         
    
                                         if she, you know, they'd always...
                                         
                                         If you see her, don't take it,
                                         
                                         that she's back to work.
                                         
                                         We were told when we got the briefing,
                                         
                                         the announcement from her in March
                                         
                                         that she was undergoing treatment.
                                         
                                         The briefing then we got, the background was that,
                                         
                                         you know, she might choose to do some events now and then if she feels well enough, but that should not be
                                         
    
                                         seen as her as a return to duties. And I, it's a big if, but if she was to feel well enough to be
                                         
                                         at Trooping, we, and nobody should see that as her comeback because it won't be. But, you know,
                                         
                                         it's certainly the question that I keep being asked at the moment, you know, and I've, you know, it's certainly the question that I keep being asked at the moment, you know.
                                         
                                         And, you know, I've seen on some social media, a lot of questions and, you know, people wondering.
                                         
                                         And who knows? That's her decision. And we all respect that.
                                         
                                         Yeah. And I think also it's nice that the king has made this comeback.
                                         
                                         OK, he's not on horseback, but he has had a kind of tough hill to climb with his
                                         
                                         own cancer treatment still receiving treatment and to be able to be in a situation where not
                                         
    
                                         only could he do D-Day but he's out doing trooping as well I think is a big moment for him in his
                                         
                                         reign and number nine and number 12 Irish Guards were formed in September 2022 in the final days of the late Queen's reign.
                                         
                                         So it's nice in a way
                                         
                                         that they're coming through now,
                                         
                                         these young troops,
                                         
                                         and have kind of bridged that.
                                         
                                         They've seen him from the start of his reign.
                                         
                                         It's that sort of supportive element.
                                         
    
                                         He's given them new colours this week.
                                         
                                         We saw him presenting new colours at Windsor Castle
                                         
                                         and we heard him talking to the soldiers,
                                         
                                         saying how much he was looking forward
                                         
                                         to trooping the colour,
                                         
                                         celebrating his own birthday. Of course, it's his official birthday it's not his
                                         
                                         real birthday which is in November. You get two when you're a monarch so you get so you get one in June
                                         
                                         actually no don't sign me up I don't want to be extra cake you get one in June because the
                                         
    
                                         weather's going to be so much nicer in June but it's Britain so looking great you can't it's
                                         
                                         never guaranteed is it no but you're't it's never guaranteed is it?
                                         
                                         No but you're right
                                         
                                         it's nice to know
                                         
                                         that he's looking forward to it
                                         
                                         and he's enjoying being
                                         
                                         out and about Kate
                                         
                                         out and about
                                         
    
                                         yes
                                         
                                         good for him
                                         
                                         out of his cage
                                         
                                         in his own words
                                         
                                         anyway
                                         
                                         we're looking forward to it
                                         
                                         it's a big
                                         
                                         Trooping the Colour
                                         
    
                                         is always a big number
                                         
                                         for us on the Sunday Times
                                         
                                         we always get
                                         
                                         you know
                                         
                                         it's a live day
                                         
                                         it's a live day
                                         
                                         there's colour
                                         
                                         we get to see what face Prince Louis pulls on the balcony. Oh, yes, because we
                                         
    
                                         are pumped for that. So Flypast 12.52, you get the guns going off in Green Park. And
                                         
                                         then you get a 62 round gun salute from Tower of London simultaneously, the other side of
                                         
                                         London. And then at one o'clock, you get the tri-service Flypast, which is always a real
                                         
                                         show. Oh, the Red Hour is going to be on time this time, Kate.
                                         
                                         I hope so.
                                         
                                         We talked about them being late last week, didn't we, in Portsmouth?
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         At least we're on time in Normandy.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, that's true.
                                         
                                         Hopefully.
                                         
                                         And they hung around all night, the Prime Minister.
                                         
                                         Orcs.
                                         
                                         This celebrates a tradition for the royal family.
                                         
                                         More than 260 years to celebrate the monarch's birthday.
                                         
                                         And dates back from one of the Middle Ages when troops had colours.
                                         
                                         And before battle, the colours would be trooped in front of the regiment to remind them of their flag
                                         
    
                                         so that in the chaos of battle if they looked up
                                         
                                         they would see where their regiment was, where the flag was
                                         
                                         and that this was carried out before they went into battle.
                                         
                                         So this sort of tradition has been taken up
                                         
                                         as the kind of parade nowadays I suppose
                                         
                                         to reinforce that connection between the sovereign and his army.
                                         
                                         Well, that's why it's such a big deal, isn't it?
                                         
                                         I mean, it is part of the royal calendar trooping.
                                         
    
                                         The King's Birthday Parade or the late Queen's Birthday Parade,
                                         
                                         it is such an important part of their calendar
                                         
                                         because it is the royal family and the monarch,
                                         
                                         the colonel-in-chief of the armed forces, reviewing the troops.
                                         
                                         And he's there to say thank you for all your service.
                                         
                                         Thank you to all the regiments for everything that you do for King and country.
                                         
                                         And it's the soldiers' opportunity to pay their respects to their colonel-in-chief and we should never
                                         
                                         underestimate that because you know they all sign up they serve king and country and so it is a sort
                                         
    
                                         of thank you that goes both ways and we know because we talk about it a lot and we write about
                                         
                                         it a lot how important the armed forces are to the royal family and this is the sort of on the global
                                         
                                         stage watched by millions not only pomp and pageantry and don't we do this brilliantly
                                         
                                         and aren't we the best in the world in Britain,
                                         
                                         but it's a unique opportunity for the king and the armed forces
                                         
                                         to say thank you to each other.
                                         
                                         It reminded me of the, you talking about that,
                                         
                                         reminded me of the coronation when after they had sort of trooped back
                                         
    
                                         to Buckingham Palace,
                                         
                                         King and Queen came out into the garden at Buckingham Palace
                                         
                                         and there was that kind of hip-hip-hooray moment.
                                         
                                         With all the book guards lined up and doing that.
                                         
                                         It was amazing that.
                                         
                                         And looking at the King and Queen in that moment,
                                         
                                         they look very emotional, actually.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         And that really means, obviously, it means a lot.
                                         
                                         And with the King having just come
                                         
                                         back from the D-Day commemorations, the 80th anniversary, I think it is particularly poignant,
                                         
                                         isn't it, this year of all years? Yeah. And we know, you know, we talked a lot last week about
                                         
                                         how much he wanted to be able to be in Portsmouth and Normandy, the king would never miss trooping in a million years, would he?
                                         
                                         No. No, I think it's one of those key moments, isn't it? And in the diary, but also for the
                                         
                                         family as well, that kind of moment on the balcony. Where we all get to see them and,
                                         
                                         you know, look at the lineup and people go, who's that on the end? And look at Prince Louis
                                         
    
                                         pulling a face. People who are lucky enough to have seats in kind of audience
                                         
                                         in the stands at Horse Guards will see this wonderful brochure
                                         
                                         that we've got in front of us, which says,
                                         
                                         For Guards Regiments, colours also symbolise our direct
                                         
                                         and enduring link to the Sovereign.
                                         
                                         The Sovereign's escort of the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment
                                         
                                         carries a Sovereign's standard.
                                         
                                         A standard, very important.
                                         
    
                                         Which is its equivalent of a footguard's regimental colour
                                         
                                         and the lead gun of King's Troop Royal Horse Artillery
                                         
                                         is signalled in the same way.
                                         
                                         There you go, you can really geek out on this stuff, can't you?
                                         
                                         I love it.
                                         
                                         You are geeking out on it.
                                         
                                         Another treat for you, Roya, next week is more horses where we're where are we going to be next
                                         
                                         week kate royal ascot and you have to pronounce it ascot don't you not ascot ascot's the way the
                                         
    
                                         proper way to pronounce it i'm really excited about royal ascot you don't say there are horses
                                         
                                         there get to talk about horses yeah so i'm looking
                                         
                                         forward to that because i'm looking forward to the hats and champagne you're looking forward
                                         
                                         to the horses and i'll see you there and the champagne yeah and the hat yeah but mostly the
                                         
                                         horses i like the horses too all right well next week then bye royale see you in your hat bye kate © transcript Emily Beynon
                                         
