The Russell Brunson Show - Elevate Your Offer: Q&A from the One Funnel Away Challenge

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

Hey everybody, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast! I just finished up a fantastic session answering some top questions in the One Funnel Away Challenge, where we dove deep into core selling frameworks and the strategies to make them work effectively. It was a great chance to connect with everyone and tackle areas where people commonly get stuck, especially with the “Who, What, Why, How” script and the Epiphany Bridge. In this episode, I break down these foundational scripts and how they can evolve to suit different contexts, from short ads to high-ticket webinars. I also cover how to adjust your positioning to boost conversions, plus a look at the “Perfect Webinar” approach and how to maximize it for bigger offers. Key Highlights: Understanding the Epiphany Bridge: How this storytelling approach establishes connection and builds trust in your offers. Who, What, Why, How Script: Why this simple structure is essential for quick pitches and short-form sales. When to Level Up: Knowing when to upgrade from a VSL to the Perfect Webinar script for higher ticket items. Offer Positioning: The importance of aligning your pricing with the problem you’re solving and the potential returns. Lead Magnets that Sell: Tips on structuring your lead magnets to create anticipation and increase engagement with your VSL. Tune in to find out how to take these insights and immediately start leveling up your sales strategy! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. What's up, everybody? This is Russell. Welcome back to the podcast. Hope you guys are doing amazing today. I just got off a One Funnel Away Challenge Q&A call and it was so much fun. A lot of you guys know we've been running

the One Funnel Away Challenge now for five or six years. But this year, we changed it and broke into two different tracks. One for those who want to become experts in the industry and one for those who want to do e-commerce. And it's been really fun. And so Trey Llewellyn runs the e-com track. I run the expert track. And there's a challenge. And it's amazing. Anyway, every single week, I have a chance to do Q&A calls. And I've been gone for the last 10 weeks doing events. And so it's the first time coming back. So I just did an hour-long Q&A call. It was so much fun. And what's cool about it is everyone who's in the chat

was just jump on there and ask questions. And so we answer a lot of really cool questions. At the very beginning of it, people were stuck trying to figure out their message and how to do the VSL funnel, stuff like that. So I spent 15, 20 minutes at the very beginning talking about sales scripts and how to create a VSL funnel. And then from there, we did Q&A. And it was so much fun. So insane. So awesome. So I wanted to share

with you guys today. Um, and so, um, this is the Q&A from this time, this, uh, this week's, uh, one funnel way challenge. If you are not in the one funnel way challenge, why do you hate money? That's the only logical reason. Uh, you get a live Q&A call with trade. We all know e-com stuff every week, live with me every single week, plus all the training and a bunch of other stuff. And right now we have the best offer we ever had had. If you go to onefunnelaway.com, you join the challenge for a hundred bucks and you get three months of ClickFunnels for free. So it's an insane offer. It's the best we've ever done, but you should go check it out. But as you do that, make sure you're listening to the Q&A because this can give you kind of a glimpse inside

of what the program looks like. But my guess is for a lot of you guys, your question will be answered during today's call, which will be a lot of fun. So I appreciate you all. I hope you enjoy this Q&A call. And when you are done, go over to onefunaway.com and get started. Thanks, everybody. In the last decade, I went from being a startup entrepreneur to selling over a billion dollars in my own products and services online. This show is going to show you how to start, grow, and scale a business online. My name is Russell Brunson, and welcome to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. So great to see you guys again. As you know, Dante here, always a pleasure to be with you. We have the man himself, Mr. Russell Brunson.

How we doing today, Russell? What's up, everybody? Dante, I'm doing so good. As you know, I've had an event every week for the last 10 weeks in a row. This is my first non-event week, which means the first time I had a chance to come hang out with you guys for a while. So I apologize. I've been off for a little bit, but I'm hopefully going to be around most of the next

foreseeable future. Other than I'm not going to lie, I'm taking my kids to the Jake Paul and Mike Tyson fight, so I may miss that Friday. Unless I can do it from the hotel room. But other than that, I'm here to hang out with you guys every Friday for as long as I can. So anyway, I'm pumped, man, and excited to be hanging out with you, Dante. Everyone going through One Funnel Away right now, congratulations.

Hope you're loving it and having so much fun. I love this game, and I love being able to share it with you guys. Anyway, so sorry. I'm just having fun. Me too, man. It's the best time of the week. So without wasting too much of this value time, Russell, we've had a lot of questions recently, a lot of great successes, and something that I've just noticed people are kind of getting hung up on. I don't think

hung up on is the right word, but could use a little bit more clarity. Is day six in the challenge, the epiphany bridge script and how that leads into the what, why, how? So could you talk about this a little bit for us? For sure. Yeah, this is, again, we have a lot of people who keep messaging and getting stuck on this part. So I'm gonna kind of step back in time a little bit and then, because, you know, Russell, you got story time with Russell for a few minutes.

So if you don't mind, if you can allow me to tell some stories for a minute, that'd be fun. So as you guys are getting into this game, in fact, I'm curious, how many of you guys are like, you're brand new to this whole online marketing game. Like this is like the beginning of your journey. If that's you either wave your hands or type in number one in the comments. I want to see more of my beginners. Okay. Number two, how many has been news for more than six months? That's you type into two. If

you're like more than six month type person right now, put it up into two. If you're more than a year, type in a three. I was trying to see, so we've got ones and twos, a couple of threes. Okay. So what are you going to learn? There's an evolution that happens inside of selling right learning how to sell and how it all begins and where you're gonna go from and in a perfect world I would come and I would just drop on you guys like here's every like the greatest things in the world but like it can get really really overwhelming in fact some of you guys know I do a three-day event called selling online I go really deep into selling and persuasion how it all works and eventually I should all go through that but like when you want to learn anything, there's like baby steps, there's, there's

levels to everything. Right. And so for me, when I got in, started this game, like I started learning a framework and then from there I learned other frameworks and frameworks kind of built upon each other and they started growing from there. Right. And so that's kind of what we're doing inside the one funnel way challenge. And so I'm selling anything, the most, the most simple, most basic frameworks. One of the easiest ones to learn and to understand and to master is ones that I still

use today, especially if I got compressed time. Like if I've got 60 seconds on a, on a reel on Instagram or short on YouTube, I'm going to use this script. If I got two minutes to sell something, I'm going to use this script. Right. Um, and it's the most basic one. I learned it originally, um, from John Carlton, who's a great one of the greatest copywriters of all time and he used to say he's like if you can just learn the script you're going to become really really good at selling anything so i remember i heard him say that's my ears perked up got my pad of paper out and he called it the who what why how script who what why how he's like if you can answer those four questions in a sales presentation somebody

will buy from you okay okay? And so, for example, I'm going to sell something for you guys right now, okay? I'll show you guys the who, what, why, how script, okay? So, number one is who. So, who am I? Hey, my name is Russell Brunson, and I'm here today because, sorry, I got, that's the who. Hey, I'm Russell Brunson. There's who, okay? Then number one is what, okay? What do you have for them? Today, I've got something really cool for you. This is a brand new supplement called parathexathine. And this, okay, so who, what? Parathexathine, which is a supplement, is basically they found the part of caffeine

that gives you the energy and they isolate that part of caffeine. They pulled it out and then, and they took it and they put it into a peel. And so you get the energy from caffeine without the jitters and the craziness of caffeine. Okay, that's what I have. So who?

I'm Andrew Russell Brunson. What do I have? I got this really cool new supplement called parathaxanine. Who? What? Then why? Why do you need this? The reason why you need this is if you are sick and tired drinking Red Bulls and Rockstars

where you get the energy and you get all shaky because you're like, I'm 5,000 grams of caffeine. And then you have this nasty crash afterwards. And you know it's destroying your liver and your kidneys and your whole body's falling apart. But you need it to stay awake. If you're sick of that but you still want energy to still awake, you need the parathaxer, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever it's called. Because this will help you to have energy but not get the caffeine high and crash and all the bad things for your body. Okay, so who, what, why? Right, so who am I? What do I have? This right here? Why do you need it? Cause it's going to give you energy.

How do you get it? If you want to, if you want some of this click link down below right now, that's it. Who, what, why, how, right? Who are you? What do you have? Why do they need it? How can they get it? So that's like the most basic, most simple sales script of all time, right? Who, what, why, how? And so again, if I've got 90 seconds on a Facebook ad and I've got to sell something, I'm like, hey, maybe I'll just grab another product real quick. Hey, my name is Russell Brunson and I've got a really cool new product

that helps with the immune support. It's called Beekeeper's Naturals. You spray it in your mouth to help increase your immune system, helps your voice get better. It's awesome. If you want one of these right here, click the link down below

or go to immunebeekeepersupport.com, right? That's how I would sell this in like 90 seconds. Who, what, why, how? Um, so who are you? What do you have? Why do you need it? How can you, how can you get it? Right? So that's like the most basic. A lot of my ads are that way. So watching some of my ads, you know, watching my reels, you start seeing stuff, you'll notice that pattern over and over again. Right? So that's like the base script we use for selling. Okay. So for some of you guys, you can do that, right? But typically when we're using a VSL, usually something's a little higher price point, right?

If I'm doing a VSL, a lot of times my price point's gonna be $27, 37, 47, 90, so somewhere in that window. And so typically I'm gonna spend a little more time trying to sell it, okay? And so what we kind of took is we took that core foundation script, who, what, why, how, right. And all we did is we took the who, and we, we kind of replaced the who with the epiphany bridge script, right? So that means

I'm going to spend more time on the who I'm going to tell my backstory. I'm going to tell the epiphany bridge story, right. For my who, and then I'm going to transition to what do I have? Why do you need it? And how can you get it? Okay? So, for example, that could be something like, hey, my name is Russell Brunson. I'm a crazy entrepreneur. I love, you know, trying to take over the world and create business and all sorts of stuff. But the problem is that a lot of times I'm working late hours, early mornings, I get tired.

And so for me, like I am past, I always had to take some kind of caffeine or something to keep me awake, keep my eyes open. But the problem is I would take it and for a few minutes, I like spike my energy. I'm going all crazy. It's awesome. I was awesome. But there are times I would crash and actually got less work done because by two o'clock in the afternoon, I'm like wrecked.

My adrenals are shot. I'm tired. I have no energy and it's really painful. And so what's crazy is I remember one of my friends told me about this new drink. The drink is called update. I have like 800 supplements on my desk here. I'm so sorry. These are all supplement jokes or stories.

It's clean called update. He said, drink. This is like a rock star, but no caffeine. I'm so sorry. These are all supplement jokes or stories. It's a thing called update. He said, drink. This is like a rock star, but no caffeine. I'm like, what? There's no way this works. I started drinking it. I remember it was weird because I drank it and it wasn't that I had tons of energy, but I just wasn't tired.

It was this really weird feeling. And I was like, wait, what is this? And he told me, he's like, this is this new drink. And inside this drink, there's this really cool thing. It's called paraxithine. And the paraxithine is the element inside of caffeine that they pull out and then they, uh, and, uh, it gives you energy, but doesn't make you crash or give you the jitters or anything. It just makes you have this, just makes you not tired. It's pretty cool actually. So I started drinking this and it changed my life. It was

crazy. I was able to get off caffeine, focus on my, my entrepreneurship. I had eight hours a day that I could actually work and get stuff done. I felt more productive. I've never had the crash, never felt tired. It was amazing. It was just awesome. Okay. So that's who I am. What do I have now for you guys? I've got this really cool supplement that is the supplement form of Brax of blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever it's called. Right. Um, why would you need it? If you're like me and you're crazy entrepreneur, this is why you need it. And how, uh, who, what, why, how, how do you get it? Clicking down, click the link down below. I fill out the order form down below and you can get access to it. Right. Does that make sense? So I'm doing, taking the who,

what, why, how script. And I'm adding the epiphany bridge to, to elongate the story of who I am to build connection to report. Cause I'm going to have longer to do it. Now, traditional VSL is usually somewhere from 12 and like 20 minutes.

That's kind of the window of what I use for a VSL. Okay. So for a lot of you guys, I want to follow my challenge. That's kind of what we're showing you guys how to do is a VSL. That's about that point. Now, one thing for you guys to think about is what if the things I'm selling is more expensive? What if it's a thousand dollars? What if it's 5,000? Right. What if I need more time to sell it? Okay. So the next level,

if you look at like how we're layering on sales scripts, who, what, why, how's number one. Okay. Who, what, why, how replacing the, who with your epiphany bridge story is the next level. The next level up from that is what I call the perfect webinar. Okay. Perfect webinar is weaving in a lot of these different things, right? I've got my epiphany bridge story. I've got, uh, multiple stories. I'm telling multiple hooks. I have a more complex way that I create. I do the offer stack, right? So I have a bigger way that I'm doing the offer stack. So I'm selling something that's more expensive. I transitioned to the next sales script, which is like the perfect webinar script. Okay. And so again, I can go and give you guys every script right now, but as we're doing this through the one front of my challenge, the goal is like

building blocks, like building blocks thing upon the next, upon the next, upon the next. So for the video sales letter, that's what we recommend doing is coming back to that core, like who, what, why, how script, right? And then taking the who and embedding your epiphany bridge story first right so telling your story and then transitioning to what do you have why do they need it and how can they get it okay and so that's what a traditional like how we do our videos vsl um funnels are right and you probably know it's like i do that even for like seven i saw someone ask about seven dollar reports or free plus shipping books i'm usually doing some version of that same thing where it's epiphany bridge story what do i have why do you need it how can you get it right like my free book offers I'm going to ask about $7 reports or free plus shipping books. I'm usually doing some version of that same thing where it's Epiphany Bridge story.

What do I have? Why do you need it? How can you get it? Right? Like my free book offers. Come on. Do I have a book? Oh, here's my books.

Okay. Here's me doing your guys' version of the VSL if I was going to be selling the expert secrets book right now. Right? Hey, my name is Russell Brunson and who am I? Right? I'm going to tell you guys my backstory. I came into this world.

I wanted to help change people's lives. I was excited, but I was also very introverted and scared. I didn't dare to talk to people, but I felt like I had this calling and this mission inside of me and I wanted to help other people. And I remember being so scared about just, you know, how do I put my face out there? How do I talk? You know, at the time, like, um, I, I never talked publicly. I stuttered a lot.

Like I talked too fast and people were like all sorts of stuff. I was scared to death, but I knew I had this calling, so I decided to step out and actually try this. I went on this journey. I remember one of my friends, he challenged me. He said, if you publish every single day, it's going to change your life. I didn't want to do that. I was scared.

I remember I started a podcast. It was called the Marketing in Your Car Podcast. I called it that because I was in my car every single day for seven minutes on the way to the office. I take my phone. I literally click record. I would just talk for seven minutes while I was learning. Here's what I learned like seven minutes on the way to the office. So I take my phone. I literally click record. I've just talked for seven minutes while I was like learning. Like, here's what I learned today.

Here's what I'm trying out. I start publishing this podcast. Every day I put it out there. And what's crazy is the first like 40 or so episodes, I was really, really bad. In fact, one of my friends one time came and he told me, he's like, he listened to all my back archives, my podcast. I said, every podcast. He's like, man, the first like 30 or 40, you were really, really bad.

He's like about 40, 45 ish. You started like, you started getting good. You started finding your voice. And like, it was, it was just amazing. I loved everything after that. And I realized for me to become an expert, I had to like, I didn't become somebody. I had to go out there and actually talk and learn how to speak and how to present. And it takes practice and repetition. Right. And over time I became an expert and look at what's happened since then. Like I've had a chance to literally change millions of people's lives. Like, here's a picture of me on, you know, at Funnel Hacking Lab where 5,000 people. Here's me at Grant Cardone's 10X event speaking to 35,000 people.

You know, me, shy, introverted, awkward Russell has had a chance to influence tons of people because I learned how to become an expert. Now, this is what I have for you today. I took everything I learned over the last two decades and I put it into a book called Expert Secrets, right? What do I have called Expert Secrets. Right? What do I have? Expert Secrets. The reason why you need this, if you feel a calling, you feel like there's something inside that you should be sharing with the world, then this book is going to help you to figure out how to find your voice, how to package your ideas and your information into something that people will pay for,

and then how to put it online and actually sell it. That's what I have. How can you get it? On the form right here on the side, you put in your shipping address. I'll send you this book for free. You just got to cover the shipping and handling. Let me know where to ship it. I'll ship you a free copy.

You're going to love this book. It's going to change your life. Fill in the form right now, and I'll ship you out your copy of the Expert Seekers book. So who will I have added in? Who will I replace with my Pimpin' Bridge story, telling my story about how I figured out

how to become the expert. So that's kind of the sales script we're looking at, you guys. And again, on the low end, like if you're doing a free plus shipping offer, it might be five minutes. If you're selling anything above that from free plus shipping up to $97, I'm looking at 12 to 20 minutes is kind of the window of how long that video should take. And then if you're selling something that's more expensive than that, then that's when we would transition more to like the perfect webinar script, which is like a full 90-minute presentation. But for right now,

we're focusing on the 12 to 20 minute version of that for the One Funnel Away Challenge. So, Dante, did you get all the pieces right? Did I miss anything? Man, that was gold. That was perfect. 100%. 100%.

So, are you cool if we open up any questions about that specifically? Heck yeah, that'd be fun. Nice. I know Justin has a question on that specifically, but anybody else, if you specifically have a question on your epiphany, what, why, how script or your video, your VSL, the actual V of the SL. If you have any questions on that, put a one in the chat for me, please. Let's put a one in the chat and we'll have a running list

going. Justin, you're up first though, brother. talk about it hey russell this is uh super cool man it's like you know i i listen to you on like all these different platforms and then seeing you here and i was at growth con uh when that was my first growth that growth con changed my life so that that was super cool to have seen that whole thing. But now I am really diving into some funnels for one of my YouTube channels. I have like 15,000 unique viewers a month that see my content. I'm trying to sell them material

to help them pass an exam to get their insurance license. That's like what one of my channels is on. So I have a, a, a, a, the, the, the story, right. Who, what, why, how, how to get the Tiffany bridge thing. And I don't know. I'm, I'm, I'm just, I'm just confused on, I guess I'm, I'm getting opt-ins. I got like a few hundred opt-ins, but I have one sale and it's $97.

So I don't know that going from free and then having the White House script being for a $97 offer on people who, you know, they're looking for a new job pretty much. So I don't know if like, if the offer is too high or it's 18 minutes long, maybe it's too long. I also, it the the call to action is for a free study guide so click the link below for a free study guide they go they send it their email then it brings them i was sending them a study guide but i figured if they get something they just leave because they're like i got what i needed so um how should i structure that what

white house script and should i do like maybe a seven dollar than a 37 instead of like 97 just right off the bat i don't know and so what how many people saw the offer you said a bunch like 100 people couple thousand people like if you got one sale how many people actually hit the landing page and watch the video um so like 300 something hit the landing page and i don't know how many watched the full video really i don't think a lot of them didn't watch the full video. Yeah. Okay, so the conversion number that you're looking at that you had, say, 300 one-person bots. So we're always working off of conversion rates to make our decisions versus our gut feelings because the math never lies.

And so on a VSL like that, so $97 offer. So just per perspective, so we have two $97 offers running right now. One of them is a challenge with Catherine Jones. And it's converting at 1.5% of people hit the page are paying $100. We have another one, the selling online event. It's 2.2% of people that hit the page are paying $100. So those are good numbers that we're able to scale and drive a lot of traffic to, right? So right now you are at one out of 300.

So that's like 0.3%. So definitely the conversions are low. So it could be a couple things, okay? I always tell people it's either the hook, the story, or the offer, right? It's one of those three things. So what's the hook on the landing page, on the page right now? So the hook is on the landing page,'s i have some testimonials and it's just like uh don't waste time with outdated study material watch my exclusive study guide video

revealing how to ace your insurance exam and then i uh that's you know the the hook i guess and then when i to get them to watch and then as i go through i give a little bit about backstory about how you know i i didn't really struggle with the material like a lot of my viewers are. But I found a way to study. And I think that's why I didn't struggle with it. And then I say, you know, here's the way I found. And I kind of show them a little bit of how I study the material for a few different types of life insurance policies. And then the the offer is I actually walk them through to give a little bit of the material to show like, so they are kind of getting some study help. And then the offer is, you know, I showed you if, you know, if this helped you guys learn these three types of policies, there's way more content on the exam. I do this for every single piece of content on the exam that you'll need to know. If you want

to master your exam, the way that you just mastered these three things, click the link below and you can guarantee to ace your exam if you don't or guarantee to pass your exam. And if you don't pass, if you finish this and you don't pass, you get your money back. What's the cost of the exam? The exam cost is, it's $40 for them to take the exam. 40 to 60, depending on the state. And then my course is off for 97 the course helps them to pass the the realtor test that you said uh life insurance license life insurance life and health yeah okay um and then if they pass the test uh how much money like like what's what's the average person make that passes the test is now in business? 92% fail their first year.

Okay. So the 8% who pass, how much money are they making in their career? They'll make over $100,000. They're the ones that make it do pretty well, do okay for their first year. And if they don't pass the test, they make nothing. So I think my bet is like you have to make the $100 seem cheap. Because in their because their mind like it's 47 to take the test and 100 to learn how to take the test like that seems that argument seems expensive it comes back to like hey um what percent of people what percent of people fail the test you say uh like 60 something percent failed the test the first time

okay so like what you're playing against instead is that. It's like, look, the average agent makes $100,000 a year. 67% of people actually fail the test. And so it's literally the test is this wall between you and a $100,000 career, right? I'm asking you to invest $100 to knock down that wall so you can go get $100,000. That's the argument you got to make because if $97 seems expensive when you position it get a hundred thousand dollars. Like that's, that's the argument you got to make. Cause if $97 seems expensive, when you position against a test, it seems really cheap. And you position against the earning potential when they pass the test.

Right. And so like, that's the story you got to tell in your story. It's just like, I don't know if you struggle with that or your clients struggle with that, but it's telling that story. Like, like they knew that they,

their career was right here. It's like the best career, like they're a hundred, a hundred thousand dollars a year is like starting wage. It's the best thing to start with, but this test could be in the way and they couldn't do it or you couldn't do it. Whatever it is, that's the story you're telling.

It's this brick wall that kept hitting. But then when you learn these things, then tests became easy and literally unlocked the door to this career. It's like unlocking doors, $100,000 sitting right there, but you got to unlock this door. Some people take the test three, four, five, eight times

and they're just waiting and they can't progress in their life until that happens like that's the part of the story i'd be making sure i'm telling because you just got to make that hundred dollars seem really inexpensive through the story then we get to the spot where you ask for the money it's like oh hundred dollars for me to get a hundred thousand done like i'm gonna go do that does that make sense yeah so how should i because since the cta is to get a free study guide. The CTA of the video? In my YouTube videos, I'm like, if you'd like a free study guide for helping you pass your life insurance exam, click the link below to get active.

And then that's the lead squeeze page is submit your email for access to a study guide. And then the next page, the VSL page is where the study guide is. So like, should I change that or how could I integrate that into getting? Yeah, maybe change it by free case study. Like you said, free study guide, like free case study on how to smash through your exam. You know, something like that. Because then the video becomes the case study. That's what they're opting in for is to actually watch the video versus them opting in to get just the thing

and then they're leaving because they got the thing and they're out. Because your conversion rate might be really, really good for all we know. It's just they're opting in and they're hitting that page to download and they're disappearing. They're not even watching the video.

You know what I mean? Yeah. So yes, maybe tweak that a little bit and be like, hey, free case study about how... Or even do you give them the study guide on the thing? Like after they opt in, the next page, they download the study guide there? I was having it sent in an email, but now it's just the video. I was following one funnel away with the template, and I was like, all right, let me just try just the video because he was saying like kind of combine the offer or what you're giving away, put it in the video.

That can be like part of it. The video is a lead magnet, right? So it's like you make the video provide value. So like, hey, free video is going to show you guys how we're able to, you know, the top three things that keep you from actually, you know, whatever the top, the top three things that keep somebody from passing the test the very first time. And like now it becomes the video is the lead magnet. Does that make sense? And they come in and watch the magnet, they they get the value and then boom then you're making the offer afterwards yeah that's right because i don't have to have like i mean the study guide it can be it can really be anything it's like hey this is you know but

tips or exact information so okay cool i'll do that if you look at like most of most of my lead magnets are the sales video or the webinar right right? Like a webinar is a lead magnet. Like, hey, watch the webinar to learn how to blah, blah, blah. Like it's just a lead magnet. And the webinar is the lead magnet that then makes the sales presentation. So I would tweak that just to try that out because first off, it'll give the existing YouTube people another reason to go back and click again, right? But then also it just positions a little differently. And now they're looking at the video as value versus just like, I'm looking for

a free thing. Where's the free thing? Why is this video cut? You know, like now it's like, I'm watching the video because there's where the value is inside of embed inside the video. You know what I mean? Awesome. Thank you.

Yeah. Good luck with that. Hopefully next week or whatever, come back and let us know how it goes. It'd be fun to see. I will. I will. Thank you. Thanks.

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I'm, I'm so pumped, honestly. So I've been, I've been drinking out of a fire hose of knowledge from you for about the last year. And it's, I feel like it's finally starting to like, you know, all of this knowledge and all this stuff is finally starting to culminate into practical implementation. And so what I'm doing now, though, is I've got an offer that I'm going to be actually developing men into unbreakable leaders. And so with that offer, what I'm curious about mostly is in your offer stack that you set up in the perfect webinar and everything um you say like have a bunch of different things to to add value to the

offer um and so right now like it's a it's a six-month coaching program um is what i'm offering it's going to be one hour per week plus uh access to a free group um for for the life of the group essentially uh so i'm just curious like with the there is a couple other things that i have ideas to put into the offer but i'm not 100 sure like uh how to position them so that they actually, so that they actually match what I'm offering versus just, um, versus just being kind of like extra pieces, if that makes sense. Okay. This is actually fun for me because I'm literally filming a VSL today, answering this question, uh, like three hours from now. And I have, anyway, I have the book in the other room for the VSL. If I had to hear, I'd show you, but have you read the book?

If you give a mouse a cookie or if you give a moose a muffin, apparently those are like, anyway, and we read that book before. If you have wave your hands. Oh yeah. If you haven't, I'll give you the gist of it.

Okay. So in the story, this mouse comes up to this kid. He's like, I want a cookie. So he gives a mouse a cookie. He eats a cookie. And then all of a sudden he's like,

I need a cup of milk. So he goes and gets a cup of milk. So he drinks the milk and then he drinks the milk. I got a milk mustache. I need napkins. So he gets some napkin. He gets napkin and they realize there's whiskers along. So he needs to trim his whiskers. Then he realizes he's getting tired. So he wants to lay down for it. And like everything starts happening in this whole chain of events, all because he gave a mouse a cookie. Right. So, um, we started looking at our offers through this, like if you give a mouse a cookie lens and it's changed everything. Okay.

So the core thing you are offering somebody is the cookie, right? And it's complete. They're gonna eat the cookie. They're gonna have it and have a great experience. Right. So for me, for example, like the core thing that I am selling somebody is in the ClickFunnels webinar is, is I'm going to, I'm selling them a training course or excuse me, I'm selling them a, well, it depends on my position, but let's say I'm selling them the click phone software so you get the software it's like okay i gave a mouse a cookie

congratulations you have software you can build funnels now right and that's complete like they eat the cookie that's amazing but as soon as they eat the cookie as soon as they get the the thing it solves that problem but it always creates a new problem right so what happens is they get the click phone software click phone software it's amazing i don't know how to use it i'm like oh good news the second thing you're going to get is I'm going to give you guys a course called the funnel hacks course. It's going to walk you through exactly how to use click funnels, how to use it for this and for this and for this. It's going to be amazing. Like, oh, this is amazing. Cool. I have click phone software. I eat the cookie.

I drink the milk, right? But by doing that, it creates a new problem. Okay. So I have the software. I have to train how to use the software, but I don't know how to get traffic to actually come to my funnel when it's done. Oh, cool. Well, the next thing I have is I'm going to give you guys access to my traffic seekers course. It's going to get traffic to actually come into your phone, right? So I'm looking at like every component of the offer. It solves a problem, but then it creates a new problem. So the next component of the offer solves that problem, but then it creates a new problem and keeps doing that until you have the offer stack should make it complete where it's like, wow, I have everything I need to be successful. I've got on software i've got the click on straight that's not the funnel hacks training i've

got the traffic secrets training uh i've got the funnel scripts help me write the copy on the pages i've got you know so like by the time it sounds like in their mind like okay i have everything i need to be successful okay so that's how i always think about offers now it's like the first thing you're selling so for you you said it's a the first thing is a course right did we lose you alex i think oh yeah sorry my uh my my sound is in and out for some reason, but I think, I think I got the gist of it. So basically what you're saying is like, if, so for example, like I have the coaching, right. And I mean, part of developing the five pillars is going to be like God, business, family,

and then health and, and lifestyle. So like, if I'm like, okay, we, family, and then health and lifestyle. So like, if I'm like, okay, we're gonna, we're gonna go through those things. So what are the pieces that are going to actually help you become a better businessman? What are the pieces that are actually like, and then from that piece, it's like, okay, what is the training that you need so that you can actually have a clear uh a clear path and it's it makes it easy for you to to actually do what i'm telling you to do is that could be that or if you if you got five pillars you could almost even just break up those five pillars into the five components of the offer right so what's is what's the thing you're leading with is it is it business is it god is it what's

the what's the from what you're teaching the, what's the, from what you're teaching in the webinar, what's the, the, the core message? Uh, so it's going to be, it's going to be mostly going to be about like faith and then that's going to be the core message. Um, and then, yeah, I guess that'll be where it starts is with faith. Okay. And then what are the five pillars? So it's a God, God, family, business, health, and lifestyle. Okay. And then what are the five pillars? So it's a God, God, family, business,

health, and lifestyle. Okay. So like I create the office instead of thinking there's like just one big course to give it as five components of an offer, right? So the first thing, first thing to help you guys do is get right with God and figure out

spirituality, whatever the, blah, that's the first thing. Now, after you've said, there's the cookie, right?

And it's like, now you got this, the, the spiritual side of your life figured out. The next thing you want is connection with your,'s the cookie, right? And it's like, now you got this, the, the spiritual side of your life figured out. The next thing you want is connection with your, with your family, right? So the second thing when you guys is the training is to help you with the family. Okay. So now you got God figured out, you got your family figured out.

But the next thing people worry about is like, what about, I don't want any money. Like I'd love to have wealth and dah, dah, dah. Right. So third, we show you how to start a business, right? They started business. Now you got wealth. You get your God, right? Family, right?

You got wealth, right? Next problem people have is their health, a lot of a lot of times people start business they're going to help because they're so stressed working out so the fourth component we're going to give you is access to the health system which is now going to help you to have the energy and the vitality and all the kind of stuff you need right and then the and then in the fifth year and get so like breaking that down into the offer um is probably how i would structure it because you don't need more stuff you just need to like position it in a way where each part like unlocks the next part does that make sense yeah totally yeah i was definitely um attempting to like to to bring other pieces in to like

be like okay this is this is kind of the core thing is going to be these things and then after that you're going to have you're also going to have this and this, right. But, um, yeah, if I just simplify it a little bit more than that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Cool. Everyone's so much nice. Go read. If you give a mouse a cookie and think about it when you do your offers, cause it makes it so much more simple. Like we had McCall Jones actually said that on training and she said, I was like, oh my gosh, this is the mate. Like it makes so much, makes it so much more simple. Anytime we create an offer now, it's just like, what's the cookie I'm giving them? Boom, okay.

After I have the cookie, what's the glass of milk? Oh, they need this. And then boom, boom, boom. And then it makes it really fun to create offers. Hopefully that helps you guys a little bit. That's awesome. Thank you. Yeah.

I'll make you guys a cool little chart too. So read that book over the weekend. Next Monday, I'll give you the framework for it. And when you guys all see the VSL and the ads coming out where i'm talking about if give a mouse a cookie go comment back that's the best ad ever because you'll know you saw the day i was i was writing and filming that ad and that vsl you guys are sitting here and you know about it for anybody else so how cool awesome okay hey let's hop over to jc jc's got a question. What's going on? Can you guys hear me? Yep. How's it going? Oh man, this is great. Uh, to piggyback off of Justin, you've definitely been adding so much value to me.

So, um, it's great to have you. And on a side note, Dante has been killing it. FYI, he's been holding it down. Dante is the man. So I, I have no fear when Dante's running stuff. I love it. Yeah. He's been holding it down. Uh, so I'll dive right into it. Cause I know we got a few questions. So I followed the 10 day process. I said, I'm gonna go all in. So I literally got my funnel up and going. This is about day 14, if I'm not mistaken. So I got my funnel going all this week. I set up, was it clarity? And you might've remembered my question on Monday, Dante, it was like, Hey, let's, how do I gauge? Cause I haven't really gotten any opt-ins. Um, so I was really just kind of gauging, do I need to change everything? Do I need to shut everything down and start all over? And he said, no, just kind of play it out and see where it goes from there. there so i will share it real fast and um i'll give you context or can i can i get it's asking me to request so i could share or become a host or co-host or whatever you should be good now let's try that that was different zoom is new every week i think it changed this weekend i know

all right sweet so uh this is i just did it from when I launched or from Sunday to whatever. So I got about 237 unique page views. Maybe 30 of those were me, but still a good, good, good base. But I don't know if I set up the clarity because I'm not getting a lot of recordings. I'm not sure if I set up clarity correctly because a lot of these recordings don't show up accurately. Like the numbers don't match if i if if that makes sense so um i'll just even go from monday to today from when i set it up um i got quite a few page views but i'm not seeing that in clarity is that i know that's probably i don't know much about clarity so that's that's not i don't use clarity i don't know what that is so i don't know

that but i'd love to kind of see the landing page and I'll give you some. Yeah, for sure. Perfect. That was going to be my, so this is where I'm at. So my challenge is the mind challenge. My year is not done.

I'm a coach and a consultant. So I work with individuals that want to maximize the rest of this year. And I give them 30 days of accountability, coaching, so on and so forth. So with that said, I'm not going to be discouraged. Technically, today will be day one. I have a list of people that are willing to be like my testimonials or guinea pigs, for lack of better words.

So I'm willing to do that this month because it's a two-parter. So I have the first push for November and I do the first challenge November 1st to November 30th, and then I do the second challenge for December. So I think what I'm getting at is my question is, should I spend this time, build more testimonials, build more credibility, or should I still double down over this next couple of days before I shut down November? And then within that timeframe, what should I do to,

to kind of get more traction? If that makes sense. Gotcha. Number one, I would do it anyway. Cause again, bring it by, by a group of friends and have people come in there,

do it with them. Cause again, you got testimonials, case studies, like it's always worth doing. Um, uh, and then you can use that

stuff on your landing page. And then number two is for this landing page. So the biggest thing that I would recommend is it needs a big promise. Like I don't, I don't, I see that my N Y N D challenge, my year's not done, no more excuses. So that's, that's what it is. But what's, what's the big promise? Like, what am I getting? Why would I want to do this? So that's my question for you. What would it be? Um, so what I push, so for the people that this is my third year doing it for the people that have done it, it's, uh, building enough momentum to go into 2025 with that, whatever it is off of their list. So I had people who finally started and finished their book. I've had people that, man, I wanted to, you know, lose 10 more pounds. And instead of starting the new year on a diet, I went into the new year already a little healthier. So the target audience are

young professionals, like people who just, you know, day-to-day life, but there's stuff that they still want to do. So I guess the answer question, the why is to finally check those things off the list that they've been wanting to do all the year and now they're going into the new year with that uh with that sense of freedom ready to to move forward gotcha is this a free challenge or paid challenge uh paid so um there would be it's i have it priced at uh 97 and then they have the option to go to vip okay um okay first your first homework assignment is a funnel hack me so i want you to go to um go to selling online.com so this is a a hundred dollar challenge with the vip uh this funnel is doing 1.5 2 million dollars a month right now so funnel hack it because you're so you're doing the same model i'm doing right so number one

look at very top big promise right like discover the one to many selling triggers allowed me to sell over a billion dollars online without a sales team so your big promise needs to be something similar like i mean not similar but like go into new, like discover how to go into the new year and no longer have the regret and the fear and the doubt of like, not hitting your goals and your dreams. Like if you've got a vision, you've got something you want to change the world, come on this challenge. I'm going to take you from wherever you are today to like, that's what's in it for them. Right? Like if you found someone on the street, my guess is you wouldn't be like hey come join the tmt and challenge right you'd be like hey this is why you're gonna join it like just pretend like you're

talking to somebody like for me if i was coming up with you on the street i'd be like dude i've sold over a billion dollars online i know exactly how to do it if you want to learn to sell online like i got this really cool challenge i'm gonna walk you through three days exactly how to do it right i guess i'd sell someone if i saw him on the street so it's the same way i sell through through copy on a page so just think about that like what's the big promise If you saw someone on the street and you want to get them in there, cause you know, you can change their life. Like, how would you say that to them in a, in, in like a headline, right? And that should be the head, like a big, bold promise of what they're going to get if they come to your challenge. And that's what I'd be leading with. I think that's

what's missing on your page. You just, it seemed too generic. It didn't get me to the point where I'm like, Oh, if I do this, it's going to change everything. Okay, I'm going to do this. You see this right now. You're like, oh, my gosh, if I do this, Russell's going to teach me how to sell the way he sells. And he's done a billion dollars in sales. I got to do that, right? I want to feel that when I see your page because that's what gets somebody to move and go run and find their credit card and run back to buy it and ask their spouse if they can buy this thing. Because they're able to go back to the spouse and be like, look, if I do this thing, man, JC told me it's going to change my life.

I want to do this. And then the spouse is like, yeah, go for it. You need to do this too. But they got to be able to communicate that back to the significant other, to their own brain, all that kind of stuff by just seeing the big promise above the video. Yeah, I didn't even have to scroll down. I want to buy this without even having to look at anything else. Everything else is just like justification afterwards. Yeah.

Got it. No, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. I was thinking of shutting it off. And then I guess last question before I go. So with the, so I've been just promoting it on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, whatever. I would promote that part of the VSL. Like this is the win, the big promise.

Go here for more information. Got it. Yeah. If you look at all the ads for this, it's always like Russell's world record holder sold more from stage in the history of all time. If you want to let her sell like him, come here,

come here. It's just like, he's pushing back to this, to that thing. You want to let her sell online, come over here. Russell's the best come to, you know?

And so same thing, like you gotta, you gotta kind of put your flag in the ground as the expert. Like I'm the greatest in the world. They're doing this thing. Like what? Like, I think this is true.

I'm saying this for everybody, by the way, like all of you guys, especially when you first getting started as an expert, you have this like imposter syndrome. Like I'm not worthy. I'm not able. It's like,

the reality is like, you have to just step up and claim the thing you are like. Nobody's nobody certified me as the best, you know, sales person in the world. I just said I was, and I, and I have some proof I've done good things. Like I just, I claimed it right. You just got to claim the thing that you were sales person in the world i just said i was and i and i have some proof i've

done good things like i just i claimed it right you said i claim the thing that you were the best in the world at and position yourself that way and then and then the people will come to you when you when you put that message out there and socially identifying like okay magic you know that was fire uh is there any and is there anything else i should add besides that at the top like the big buy-in so i just even looking at selling online like i said i'm gonna go through and hack your your funnel but a lot of the stuff i i have the testimonials i have the framework a lot of it sounds the same i just don't have the yeah i think the biggest thing missing is just the big problem it's like what's what's the reason why they should they should join the challenge

that's the biggest thing and then you can look at like Like what's, what's the reason why they should, they should join the challenge. That's the biggest thing. And then you can look at like, if you go do funnel hack mind, look at how we, how we structure the VIP page and stuff like that. Like, um, we test these things like a million different ways. And so if you just look at the structure of how we're doing it,

um, you know, like again, it's, it's working really well at a high level. And so I would just model that for, for a paid challenge for sure. Sweet.

I appreciate it, man. I won't hold it up. Thank you. Yep it, man. I want to hold it up. Thank you. Yep. Thanks, man. Good luck with it. Cool.

And you guys stick with me too. Russell just said funnel hacking. I got to shiver up my spine because funnel hacking changed my life. So I'm going to give you guys some really quick tips and tricks that JC can use and everybody else with some cool extensions as well. So you can really funnel hack. Leverage the success of others. Keep the arrows out of your back, baby. Can I mention one thing, by the way?

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I'm here. Thank you. Dante for, how's it going for that? Thank you, Russell. How are you doing? Great.

Yeah. Amazing. I was recently talking, uh, at Ted talk and I was mentioning you because you were the best fit for that. It was about giving the value. Oh, yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. I will share with you maybe, Link, if it's interesting.

And I was talking about how important is that in sales to give the value to other people. And I gave one quote from you and it was pretty interesting. Yeah, my question is, I'm struggling a little bit with positioning. And I wanted to ask, like, what would you recommend to position myself? Like, I'm a sales coach, but we have a lot of topics there you know and i cannot select the the niche or positioning that can make me really successful what type of selling do you teach people like one-on-one face-to-face phone sales one of many yeah um i have a lot of experience in sales 101 and it's over the phone linkedin or email like it's mostly bringing them to the

to the meeting and then after that trying to sell okay what's your unique mechanism how do you do different than everybody else um the conversion rate is really high because i see that people they they make it for for example, very long emails. You know, I write very personalized that the conversion is up to 40% coming to the meeting if it's email or LinkedIn message, for example. So it's like what you do on one of many, like giving a huge promise and everything like that. I put it just in an email, but in a very personalized level to exact that person that they feel sometimes they write, like, how did you know that I have this problem?

And they come to the meeting because I did a little bit of research. I know the segment really good. I know what kind of problems they have. And when I write that, they react immediately. And that's why I have very high. And also with the cold calling, for example, I do a lot of cold calls. And eight of the, from 10 people, eight I can convert to the meeting. Exactly the same process what I do on emails.

I take it to the cold calls, like really, really personalized. And it's just not just a random call, you know, so very personalized. So that's why that's what I do different. The unique mechanism is getting people to show up for the sales call exactly yeah that's awesome okay like that's that's what i position yourself as like the greatest person in the world at doing that piece of it and what's cool about it too is like because i'm sure you teach a lot of other stuff like the sales call and all the other stuff right same thing for me like when i got started i was i was um i got good at all the things in internet marketing so i'd go and i'd teach, like people ask me, what do you do, Russell?

I'm like, I do it all. And I would try to like, I can teach copywriting, I can teach traffic, I can do all these different things. And because I was trying to teach everything, like nobody, it was really hard to get people to actually buy from me and do anything for me. And I remember going to an event one time that I remember some guy came up to me after I spoke

and he's like, he's like, so what do you do? I was like, well, what do you need? I can do it all. He's like, but like Jeff Walker, he's like the product launch guy. And this guy over here he's like the the google pay-per-click guy like what's your thing i'm like i can do both of those and anything you want he's like oh okay and he walked away and he bought jeff walker's thing i remember like having that epiphany like oh my gosh this is so annoying so that's when i transitioned and this is back when i was writing

the dot-com seekers book we're about to launch click from so i'm like i'm gonna become the funnel dude that's new my whole focus and so I shifted my focus to just that one piece. And that's what I became famous for. That's what brought everyone into my world. But then inside of funnels, I can still teach copy and traffic and SEO, like all the other things I can still teach. But the lens they come in through is this one thing, right? So if you identify the same thing, like I'm the best in the world at getting people to show up to a call warm, right? Average show up rates are 20%. I'm getting 40, 45%. On a cold call, I'm getting 80%. And then people to show up to a call warm right average show up rates are two 20 percent i'm getting 40 45 on a cold call i'm getting 80 and then when they show up they're way better because of it right so that becomes your lane that like you become the best in the

world at that thing your vsls your messages all things are focused on that and then they come in your world then you can train them on sales calls and traffic all the rest of the stuff but narrowing your focus on what your your specialty what unique mechanism is is the key like blowing up and actually growing the company yeah it's actually acquiring the clients without putting any scent on that it's actually that what you mean because showing up it's it's high but closing rate is also high you know the main goal of the client is to sell of my client to sell them and uh how many people show up and etc it doesn't actually really matter for them a lot for them it matters that they sell a lot without putting a lot of money on paid ads or anything like that like creating content and etc that's

why maybe i need to then take this like acquire the clients without putting any any scent on um advertisement or something like that do you think it can be a good idea for sure yeah i think again there's a million there's a million ways to find a unique mechanism i would just look at what the things you do that are unique that you can talk to because that's what gets people excited in a in a really crowded really noisy marketplace you know i mean yeah yeah um i never heard about talking someone about this at your any events like do you think it is interesting uh for also like the you know like your group in general how to get free leads to sign up for sales calls yeah exactly especially in the beginning because people they don't want to spend a lot on meta ads and etc you know it takes a lot of money. Is there any way to apply for that?

I don't know for any of your events, like to talk about that, even, even. The way I pick my events is people that are in my world or during the coaching programs, inner circle. Those who I see, I see them speak in my internal small events. That's who invite to the bigger ones. So that's the best way is to plug into our, plug into our community, start showing up to events, starting to know you. And that's the, that's the way that I pick the speakers from.

Oh, cool. Okay. Thank you so much, Russell. Thank you very much. Great to meet you. Great to meet you too. Bye. Oh, so good.

Fridays are the best. I think we're going to have time for one more here. Let's hop over to Annie. Oh my God. Oh my God. Can you hear me? Loud and clear. I'm so excited.

Russell, you're amazing. I love you. I absolutely love you and ClickFunnels. I've been following you for decades and thanks to you, to your amazing One Funnel Away challenge and the 90 day time that you've given us i have finally started building my first funnel yeah let's go oh my god i'm so excited you don't even know how excited i am okay so um if i can show you i've only done my opt-in page i'm a little confused with the vsl and the four you know i'm using the template you you gave us so the four points at the bottom so um can i share my screen really quick yep you should be

able to annie go ahead okay thanks all righty let's see okay all righty so first funnel ever in my whole entire life Okay so So I just followed what I Saw in the training and I Called out you know The name of what I call my Audience of freedom seekers And

I realize now that I have to work on the headline to give it A better promise. But transform your life and embrace your freedom. Okay, so what this is, what I'm offering, it's, I can't get this out of the way. It's, my program is actually called Pathway to Freedom, 12 Steps to Life Transformation. Okay, so here's my logo and everything and um i'm a little bit confused about how to do this uh bsl page because um i see that at the bottom

there's four parts right but i have 12 steps i have 12 steps my I have 12 steps. My program is 12 steps. And I don't really know how to do this in the sense that should I put step one, two, three, four, and then talk about the fact that there are eight other steps? What is that? Okay, so the 12 steps are what you're selling somebody, right? They're going to buy the 12 steps, right? Mm-hmm. So what they're opting in for, though, is not the 12 steps. That's what they're going to be buying on the VSL page. So what they're opting in for is to be able to watch the VSL.

So the VSL is going to have four steps. So who, what, why, how, right? So I would say part number one, like this is like discover why I create this cool thing. Part number two, you know what? Like, and you know, and then number three, why? Like why you need it in part four. So you just, you basically, you're taking like, you're taking parts of the video on the next page

and you're telling them like, these are the things you're gonna be getting when you watch the video on the next page. Does that make sense? You're not giving them the 12 steps on the next page. That's what they're gonna, after they watch the video, then you're going to tell them like, I have a 12 step program. It's amazing. Click the link down below to buy the 12 steps. And that's what they're going to be buying from you. Okay. All right. Yeah.

Um, so I, I, I'm still not very clear on the four parts here because i mean should it shouldn't the four parts be like topics that i'm going to be talking about in the vsl and not who what i don't know i'm just yes but the things you're talking about vsl are the who what why how you're not teaching the 12 topics in the vsl vsl is not a not it's not for teaching the the training the vsl is to sell the training right so i sell the training you tell the backstory about how you discovered it talk about what it is why they need it and how can they get it and so those are the elements that you're talking about here is like on this video i'm gonna tell you how i discovered this really cool thing i'm gonna tell you what uh what it is and why you actually need this and how it's

going to change your life forever when you decide to take action. Those are the four things you're going to be talking about in the VSL. And the VSL then is selling the 12 steps that they're going to pay you for later. Okay. So then I guess when I name these four parts, it has nothing to do with any of the topics of the, of the, of my program. It's, it's just, you know, like you said, you know, the, the, my backstory, you know you know what it is. Why and how, right. Yep. So it's basically just hooks to get them to go watch the video on the

next page. Okay. Okay. Just one more question. Then I don't know how to get this stupid video on the next page. Okay. Okay. Just one more question. Then I don't know how to get this stupid thing out of the way. Okay. All right. So the next parts of the funnel, well, we have the VSL page, right? And then we have the order form. Is that, I don't have a program. I mean, it's all in my head.

I don't have a course. I don't have a book. I don't have any of that yet. It's all in my head. So I wouldn't be selling anything at this point. Or I don't know what do i what's the strategy with this funnel yeah the strategy is you got to start creating the thing to sell you can't sell a funnel can't sell nothing so you got to make something now is the time to start

creating it's to get these 12 things out of your head and uh and plug them in so i create the membership site make a different module for all 12 of the modules and then click record and start, start teaching it. It's time for you to step into your calling. The people are waiting for you. Okay. So, um, but is there a way for me to start collecting leads while I'm making the product so that I'm not wasting time, I guess. For sure. For sure. And you can even sell something that's coming soon. Just like college, right?

University. Like when my daughter right now is applying for university and they want us to send them money and school doesn't start for like eight months from now, right? But they're making us pay for tuition now for something that's coming up. So you just say, I'm doing a course, starts January 1st, and now you can start driving leads, and people can start paying for it even, right? While you're testing, you're tweaking, and then January 1st is when the first cohort starts.

You're gonna go through the 12, whatever that is, and then that way, and the reality is, you could just create one module, like create number one, like the very first video, right? Like when we sold the ClickFunnels offer, I recorded module number one and we started selling it and then like two weeks later i recorded module two and i added it to members area and two weeks later so every couple weeks i was adding a new one so you don't have the whole

thing finished to launch it either so you get launches saying it's starting january 1st and then january 1st you launch the first module and then a week later two weeks later you launch the second module and you keep just kind of adding to it after that. Oh, my gosh, that's amazing. I am so excited. I'm excited for you. I'm going to stop sharing so I can see you. I am so excited that I'm actually doing this. And I'm so grateful to you, Russell.

I mean, I can't show you more appreciation. I have no words, and Dante's amazing so thank you so much hey I want to can I give you a gift for being here today yeah I'm gonna give you two gifts and Dante if you can help me with this so I want to um for Annie let's bump her her click funnels billing out for six more months you're gonna pay for six more months and we also get her access to course secrets. It's a course I, I sell for 500 bucks. I'm on how to build a course.

So I want you to go through that as well. That way you have time to go through the course secrets, learn how to build the course and not to stress about monthly payments for six more, you know, for six more months after that. So that okay. Early Christmas present from me.

So early christmas present from me so thank you so much wow no worries i'm proud of you for i'm proud of you for doing it so hopefully it gives you a little more motivation to keep it going. So your people are waiting for you to change their lives. So hopefully this helps. Yes. I'm going to help a lot of people because of this, because of you. Thank you. Very cool. No worries.

Thank you. Thank you. Bless you. Thank you. And I got your back, Annie. I'm going to reach out to you after this. We'll get you all set up. I'm so excited.

I love that. Very cool. Oh, man. What a fun day, Dante. We'll get you all set up. I love that. Very cool. Oh, man. What a fun day, Dante. We shoot this every day. This is so great. Don't tempt me with a good time, Russell. Oh, man.

I wish I could stay on for another two or three hours to answer everyone's questions, but hopefully you guys all got value from everybody's different questions, got ideas to help you guys on all your journeys. And like I said, I should be back next week. I should be here, and I'll keep coming on as much as humanly possible. So. Amazing. And so guys, please go do, go do the thing, right? I talk a lot about lunch with Russell,

the price tag that we used to have and there's no price tag here. Russell comes cause he wants to serve. So please go do, go hit a new roadblock, go find a new part of the journey. You're not able to get over, go find another question so that Russell can come behind us next week week in the week after so excited for this man hey uh i don't want to take too much of your time so i know you're planning for that new uh new pitch where should we look out for the new sales letter by the way the give mouse a cookie um i'm gonna post i'm making it also youtube video so i'm gonna put it on youtube as well probably next week or two

weeks so if you if you follow the youtube channel it's just russell brunson followed there you'll see the video for there and then uh and you'll probably see it running as an ad at the same time so it's gonna be fun an ad for selling online um it's uh it's gonna be going to a vsl for a phone call to get somebody to buy uh what we sell at the end of selling online. So it's our VSL funnel for the backend coaching. Yeah. Amazing. I can't wait to watch that. Well, thank you, Russell so much,

man. It's always a pleasure. Thank you, Dante. Thank you, everybody. Appreciate you all. Don't forget your one funnel way.

Keep going with it. Appreciate you guys.