The Russell Brunson Show - Faith Vs Fear: Moving With Definitive Purpose
Episode Date: April 21, 2021One of my favorite principles from a book called “Outwitting The Devil” by Napoleon Hill Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com Learn m...ore about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey, what's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson.
Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast.
Today, I want to talk about one of my new favorite books.
And something cool I learned in it, that I'm doodling for a book that I'm writing,
and I just got to brain dump it.
So, hopefully you don't mind. I'm going to share some cool stuff with you right now. So the big question is this, how are
entrepreneurs like us who didn't cheat and take on venture capital, we're spending money from our
own pockets. How do we market in a way that lets us get our products and our services and the things
that we believe in out to the world and yet still remain profitable? That is the question and this podcast will give you the answer.
My name is Russell Brunson and welcome to Marketing Secrets.
All right, so the name of the book is Outwitting the Devil by Napoleon Hill.
And if you have not read this book yet, it is insane.
Kind of the story behind it. Napoleon
Hill wrote this back in 1930s. And it was about a conversation he had with the devil about how he
can like tempt people and get them to fail in life, which is really, really fascinating. And
we don't know if it's a true conversation or just something he made up, but either way,
the book is insanely good. So he finishes it in 1930s, like a year after he wrote Think and Grow
Rich. And then he didn't feel like he should publish it. He was scared. In fact, in the book, it talks
about why, you know, the devil's like, this is why you shouldn't publish it, why you're not going
to publish it and all these things, which is kind of crazy. So he never published it. Then he passed
away and then his wife got it and she read it. She's like, I'm not publishing this. So she didn't
publish it. Then she passed away. It went into the hands of the Napoleon Hill Foundation. And a
couple of years ago, somebody found it and read it and was like, this is really,
really good.
And so they called up Sharon Lechner, who I had a chance just recently to talk to her
and get to know her, which was really cool.
Sharon is the one who was kind of like the co-author and the CEO for a long time of the
Rich Dad Poor Dad brand.
So if you've heard her name before, it's because she's like on every one of those books, it
says co-authored by Sharon Lechner.
So anyway, so when I found the book, she's the one who one of those books says co-authored by Sharon Lechner. So, um, anyway,
so, so when I, when I found the book, she's like the, she's the one who put this whole book
together. So I had a call with her last week and she told me that, um, they called her up and said,
we have this manuscript. You should check it out. And she's like, I was the fourth person to ever
read it. I'm like, what? This is the craziest thing in the world. So she read it and they
decided to publish it. She put together, you know, put all the work in to get it a manuscript
live and they launched it. Now I believe it's in 40 together, you know, put all the work in to get it in manuscript live. And they launched it.
Now, I believe it's in 40 languages, she said, which is really cool.
But for some reason, I never read it.
And I wish I would have a long time ago.
But it's amazing.
And so in the book, it starts off with Napoleon Hill kind of telling the story,
telling the story about how he got to this certain spot in his life before this conversation with the devil.
And the first couple chapters are kind of slow because it seemed to tell the story.
They're really good.
But it's all like leading up to this conversation. And a
lot of things he talks about earlier, like were essential for the conversation to actually make
any sense. He meets the devil. He's in this like courtroom with him and he has this chance to
interrogate him and the devil has to tell him anything he asks. And so he starts asking all
these things and it is so fascinating. So, you know, my brain works in doodles. So as he's,
I'm reading this book, I'm doodling out the concepts and the principles and how they fit and where they tie together.
Anyway, I'm going to be having a chapter in my new book that goes deep into this.
You guys will have a chance to see my doodle someday.
For now, I'm going to visualize the doodle.
Basically, there's this person at the very top.
There's two choices they make, either faith or fear.
Every time something happens to us in our life, we can either choose faith and just move forward with faith or we can have fear.
Those are two opposite things.
Those are the two choices. Everything is tied to either faith or to fear. And so I have a little arrow going left to faith and right to fear, kind of diagonal.
And in the book, the devil says his goal is to get everybody to become what he calls drifters.
He says that right now he controls 98% of the population of man, and they're all drifters,
right? So a drifter is somebody who is not, you know, not pursuing things, not doing the right things. And the other side,
the 2% of the people are people who have what he calls definitive purpose. They have a purpose,
they have thought, they know what they want to do, and they're executing, trying to achieve that
thing. Okay, so those are the two things there's, if you follow fear, you become a drifter, like
98% of the people, or if you follow faith, then, then you, uh, one of the 2% who follow definitive purpose,
definitive purpose is like, you have a goal, right? I want to do this thing. I want to accomplish
this thing I'm going towards. I'm going, I'm trying to get it. I'm trying to achieve it.
I'm trying to do this thing. Right? So that's the, that's the direction. Um, and it's interesting
is like when somebody does have definitive purpose, when the 2% in the books are talking
about, here's the things he does to get somebody from this thing where they have definitive purpose, where they are using faith,
how do I get them to become a drifter? He has all these tools. One of the tools is when someone's
got definitive purpose and they build a business and they make money, first thing I'm going to do
is eat a whole bunch of food because they eat a bunch of food, they get tired, they're less likely
to work hard, and it's very easy at that point to get somebody to become a drifter. That's one
example. He has a whole bunch of different examples of things he uses to get somebody from the
side of faith to the side of fear, which is really fascinating.
Okay, then on the fear side, he talks about all these different things he does to get
people into fear, right?
And so it's interesting.
He says there's the six most effective ways to get somebody to have fear.
He said the fear of poverty, the fear of criticism, the fear of ill health.
Number four is the fear of loss of love.
Number five is the fear of old age. And number six is the fear of criticism, the fear of ill health. Number four is the fear of loss of love. Number five is the fear of old age.
And number six is the fear of death.
And he said that the two most powerful tools he has
to get somebody to have fear are poverty and death.
If you can get somebody to be afraid of poverty,
then you can control it.
If you can get them afraid of death, they can control it.
But he said, but then the two things
that are most powerful in actually controlling people
and keeping them in fear is number one is poverty.
So if I can keep people broke and poor, then I can control them because now they have, there's so many fears.
Like, oh, I can't do this, I can't do that.
Because when you're in poverty, you don't have the ability to go and do a lot of things, right?
So it keeps you in a state of fear.
And the other one is ill health.
If you're not healthy, then you're in a state of fear all the time too because you're not sure how your body's going to function and you're going to be able to do things and stuff like that.
So those are the two ways he actually controls people
and keeps them in fears through poverty and ill health,
the two most powerful things he has.
And if Neri talks about the habits he creates,
it's really cool, but all these things he does to get somebody,
first off, initially make the decision of fear,
and then from there, how he ties those things and locks you in
so you stay a drifter for the rest of your life.
And that's kind of the premise of this book, right?
It's like you've got two choices, have faith and pursue things with definitive purpose or have
fear and become a drifter, right? And like I said, in the book, the devil says that 98% of the people
he has control of, they become drifters, which is crazy. And so that's kind of interesting.
As I diagram that and start mapping out, like, well, for me, like, what are the things I need
to make sure that I'm not acting in fear? How do I act in faith? How do I, how to make the correct decision?
Right. And, um, as I started looking at this graph, it's like, here's all the things that
he's trying to do to get me into fear, to make me become a drifter. Let me look at the opposite
side. How do I, how do I act in faith? How do I make sure I have definitive purpose? How do I,
when I do have success, how do I not make sure I don't slide back over and become a drifter?
How do I keep pursuing, keep progressing and things like that? It's really fascinating.
And then in the book, it shows, it talks about this thing that ties the universes
together and he calls it hypnotic rhythm. And this is where people get into, say, when you get into
hypnotic rhythm, it's hard to get out. And so at the bottom of this graph, I kind of drew it,
it looks like a big whirlpool. It says hypnotic rhythm that's working to keep you where you're at.
And he said, the hypnotic rhythm works on both sides. He said, if you're someone who has definitive
purpose, hypnotic rhythm, that becomes your routines and
your habits and your things that after you've got those things in place in your life, they become
hypnotic rhythm. And typically you'll stay there, right? Or if he can get you to become a drifter
over there, he can create hypnotic rhythm that's going to keep you there. So hypnotic rhythm serves
both sides. It's just, what are the habits you have? You have habits that are keeping you
unhealthy. They're helping you struggle, that are making you,
you know, all these things make you become more of a drifter. Those habits will become hypnotic
rhythm and you'll stay in that whirlpool for forever. Or the opposite is true as well, where
if you act in faith, if you have a definitive purpose and you're doing these things, that
hypnotic rhythm will stay with you and it's easier to stay there as well. So anyway, it's super
fascinating. I can't wait. When my next book comes out, you guys, you have a chance to go deep and see my doodles. But for
right now, I'd highly, highly recommend going reading Outwitting the Devil by Napoleon Hill.
It's just an amazing, fascinating, like it's an amazing book. And I would recommend if you do
listen to the audio book, because in the audio book, the guy who plays the devil, his voice is
really, really cool. And you have a chance to like hear him debating back and forth in Napoleon Hill. And like, it's, it's pretty cool. Um, anyway, so that's kind of,
that's kind of what, what, um, one of my fun things I'm working on right now is just diagramming this
concept and these principles, uh, to be able to include in, in my next book. But, um, it's amazing.
So I went in the devil's awesome. Um, I know a lot of you guys are listeners who've read C.S. Lewis.
I have not read C.S. Lewis's books yet, but I know that there's, um, there's a whole book, uh, I think
a couple of books actually, like the Screwtape Letters where, um, it's kind of a similar premise
where, um, where it's like how, how these devils, how they try to convince people to do what's
wrong. And, and it's kind of that same perception, perceptive or perspective, sorry, the same
perspective. Um, it's opposed to like, here's all things to do right.ive or perspective, sorry, the same perspective. Um,
as opposed to like, here's all things to do, right? It's like, well, what does Satan, what is the devil? What's he trying to get you to do? Right. And, um, anyway, it's just fascinating.
So I love the book. Highly recommend it. If there's something good to read, read that book,
but look at it through that lens of like, okay, I want to learn how to protect myself, right?
How do I keep acting in faith and stop acting in fear? How do I focus on definitive purpose? How
do I, how do I move forward until I gotten to the spot where I'm in hypnotic rhythm
where I'm not going to break free from it?
And what are all the tools that devil's going to use
to try to get me to become a drifter?
And if I'm a drifter right now,
what things do I need to prepare myself?
How do I break free from this fear and these things
and get back to a state of faith?
Get back to a state of faith.
Get back to a state where you're focusing
and you're moving with definitive purpose.
Anyway, super fascinating.
And I hope that you guys enjoy it.
In fact, Josh Forty is going to be coming out next weekend. We're going to do a podcast interview on
this. And so I'll probably go a lot deeper into it, but this will be the preface for you guys.
And you have a chance, I'm sure we'll post the Outwitting the Devil podcast here in a couple
of weeks. You have a chance to hear me and Josh dive even deeper. So you got a little window now
between you hearing this and that next interview
to go and read the book so we can come back
and we have an intelligent conversation about it,
have some fun.
So with that said, go read the book.
And then in a couple episodes from now,
you'll have a chance to hear me and Josh
go deep on this concept.
So there you go, you guys.
Appreciate you all.
Hope you have an amazing day.
And we'll talk to you all again soon.
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