The Russell Brunson Show - From Creating Noise to Solving Agitation: Q&A from the OFA Challenge

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

In today’s episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I dive into one of my favorite strategies: creating and leveraging noise to make your products irresistible. I know firsthand how crucial it is t...o capture attention in a crowded marketplace, and today I’m sharing insights to help you do just that. We explore the difference between making your own noise versus aligning with noise that already exists in your industry. Both approaches have their pros and cons, but there’s a lot of potential in strategically using trends and events to drive traffic and boost sales. I share practical ways to capitalize on seasonal and cultural events, whether it's major sports matches or the wave of New Year's resolutions. It’s about harnessing the energy already present and riding that wave to introduce your offers. These tactics may seem simple, but they can be game-changers in connecting with your audience at the right moment. Key Highlights: Understanding the importance of creating a reason for your customers to buy now. How to align with trends and existing cultural moments to drive engagement. The difference between adding bonuses versus offering discounts and why the former could be a better strategy. Real-life examples, like how I’ve utilized big events like Black Friday or Christmas for ClickFunnels promotions. Insights on over-delivering in all aspects of your marketing to build lasting trust and brand loyalty. Whether you’re planning holiday campaigns or thinking ahead to 2025, this episode will give you the clarity and motivation to make your marketing stand out. Don't miss it! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:48 Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets slash Selling Online podcast. Excited to be hanging out with you guys today. I just got off a Zoom call with all of our One Funnel Away members, our OFA call, doing Q&As.
Starting point is 00:01:04 And we had some really cool things. In fact, we kicked off the session today talking about, you know, figuring out marketing, like how to actually market, how to tap into the existing excitement and energy of things that are happening around you to be able to get your message out to more people. So I talked about for 15, 20 minutes, let me do some Q and A's. And I think there's some really cool stuff in here. So, uh, I thought for this episode, we would dive into some Q and A's. I hope you guys enjoy it. On top of that, if you haven't yet, and you want me to answer your question live, you should come hang out with us. All you gotta do is go to onefunnelway.com. It's a hundred bucks. You come in there, you get three months ClickFunnels for free, and then you can jump on calls every Friday
Starting point is 00:01:36 with me and do Q and A's. And so if you want to not just hear these things on the podcast, but actually be part of it, go to onefunnelway.com and come hang out with us. So with that said, I'm going to jump into a Q andA episode with you guys, going to some really cool things about finding your message, getting out to the world. I think you're going to enjoy this one, especially the very last question. I talk about problem, agitate, solve, and start agitating some stuff. And I think you guys are going to really enjoy that. So thanks you guys so much.
Starting point is 00:01:57 And I hope you enjoy this episode. In the last decade, I went from being a startup entrepreneur to selling over a billion dollars in my own products and services online. This show is going to show you how to start, grow, and scale a business online. My name is Russell Brunson, and welcome to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. We have the man, the myth, the legend with us today, Russell. How are we doing today, my friend? Amazing.
Starting point is 00:02:19 How are you doing today, this beautiful Friday? Doesn't that just warm our souls? We get to see a Russell come on screen. Amazing. gives a goosebumps great to see you man you too excited for today be fun yeah me too i'm really excited and hey i know we have uh as always gang russell's got a crazy schedule so i really want to maximize our time together for this first hour we're going to talk marketing today i know we've done a lot over these past weeks and you guys have been really doing amazing putting to work the things that you're learning in the challenge. We're super proud of you and we want to give you ammunition, things that we can start doing to further our progress.
Starting point is 00:02:52 And what we'd really like to talk about today is marketing. You know, Russell, I learned from you, gosh, I was trying to, I was trying to look back at my notes and I couldn't really find it. I think it was like six years ago. I learned this thing this thing from you uh it was about creating noise around your product and as you taught it back then basically it's a very simple concept there's two ways to to get your product out there one you can create your own noise around your product or service or two you can align with noise that's currently in your marketplace and align your product and service with that noise and this has been something foundational and like as a in a personal sense yes but like as a coach for click funnels too as i get to work with all the people uh it works for everybody and it tends to be light bulb moments for everybody you know creating your own noise
Starting point is 00:03:39 is typically difficult there's a lot of work and thought that has to go into there we have to be like actually strategic but aligning with the noise that's currently in the marketplace. Well, that's not so easy. And that's a fast path to cash. So could you talk about that a little bit? Yeah, for sure. What a fun thing to talk about to begin the day off. So for all you guys, think about this. You've got your products, your services, whatever you're doing, you're trying to sell. And Dante is 100% right. Like the biggest reason why a lot of people don't have success is they create the most amazing thing ever and the best funnel. And then like, no one ever finds out about no one knows about it, right? It's like you said, there's like, you can go you can create noise,
Starting point is 00:04:13 which is I do a lot of that, as you probably see, like I get excited about something, I make a bunch of noise and try to make a great desire in people's heart and their mind, because then they're likely to go buy the thing. But what he's talking about, there's such an there's an easy way to feel like what are the what are the crazy things happening right now in the environment, in the culture, in the whatever that you can tap into, right? And so when you think about this with – this is true. When I'm trying to get an affiliate to promote something, it's true when I'm trying to get a customer to buy something.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I'm always trying to figure out, like, what's a – I need to create a reason for somebody to buy now, right? It's all based on this concept. It's like I got to give people a reason to buy something, I'm always trying to figure out like, what's a, like, I need to create a reason for somebody to buy now, right? It's all based on this concept. It's like, I got to give people a reason to buy now. A lot of times they'll see your product. They go, Oh, that's cool. I'm going to buy that someday. Oh, that's cool. I'm going to buy it someday. Right? Like I'm sure a lot of you guys probably heard me talking about ClickFunnels for a long time, maybe a year or two years or a decade. Right. And for some reason you didn't do it earlier. Right. For some reason. And then, uh, I'm guessing based on the fact that we're here today, that some of you guys was like, Oh, FAA, I made noise. I got excited about that. And it was like, okay, here's a reason for me to buy. Now I want to jump in now because Oh, if he's happening,
Starting point is 00:05:11 I'm going to get a live calls. I want to do whatever. And that was the reason for you to do the thing, right? If I'm trying to get an affiliate to promote something, but I'm like, Hey, affiliate, promote this thing. They may or may not do it unless I give them a reason to do it now. Like what's the re like people want a reason to do something, right? And so in marketing, a lot of times, like you have a product, you have a service, and the goal of marketing is to give them a reason to buy it now, right?
Starting point is 00:05:33 So one of the coolest things that Dante wanted me to talk a little about today is just looking at the current trends, looking at things that are happening. And so as I'm sure most of you guys all experienced over the last couple of days, we had a really large political thing happening here in the States. I wasn't paying that much attention to it, but I'm sure we all saw it, right? I think there was like $9 or $10 million a day in ads being spent between the two campaigns, right?
Starting point is 00:05:59 And it's hard. Ad costs went up for everybody. It was really difficult. And I didn't capitalize on this because I didn't want to get political, but I have a lot of friends who are very political and they totally capitalized. They did Trump sales and Kamala sales and they did that. And they were tapping into like this noise was already happening, right? And they didn't have to go and like figure out how am I going to generate energy?
Starting point is 00:06:18 They're like, what's the energy is happening right now? And they did it in all formats of their marketing. Sometimes it was, you know, it was in the funnel itself. Like I saw a lot of friends who were like, it was like there were pre pre-election stuff happening and there were post-election stuff. Like after election was over, if you were happy or if you're sad, they had sales for both of those. Like, oh, if you're, if you're depressed today, we've got a really cool thing.
Starting point is 00:06:37 It's going to help you bubble. And they had an offer there. Like, if you're really excited today, we have an offer to help you. It's like, it's tapping into this conversation. It's already happening inside of, inside of the society as a whole, right? So it happens in offer level, but then you just start moving up a little bit and moving up a little bit. It also happens from like, from a marketing level, from a content level, from the things you're putting out there, videos or podcasts. Um, I'm a, I'm a UFC fan. Any UFC fans listen right now? Okay. It's,
Starting point is 00:07:03 it's funny. I, there's a bunch of, there's a handful of like UFC commentators commentators that I watch all the time. And one of them I'll talk about his name is Chael Sonnen. If you guys know Chael, he was a wrestler. So he's from my world and became a UFC fighter. But what's interesting is his channel, he posts five YouTube videos a day, every day, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Right. And all he's doing, he's looking like what's happening today in the UFC community that people are already talking about. Right. And so every single fighter, every single fight coming at the fight card, the, this, the, that, if there's, if Connor tweets something, boom, there's a video. If you know, whatever's happening, he's popping video, video, but he's just tapping into the stream of consciousness,
Starting point is 00:07:33 what these, what that world's already caring about. And for him, it's five videos a day on YouTube. He's pumping out. And what's interesting is like, you can watch, if you go to his YouTube channel, you watch the threads, everything posts out five, and this might get 3,000 views, 8,000 views, you know, 2,000 views. But if he gets the, hits the right message, like again, if Connor's fighting or Connor gets a bruised toe or anything, Connor, Connor related, cause that's a big topic. He posts the thing, right? And that thing will get 80,000 views or 150,000 views. Right. And so he's just out there looking at all the current waves, video, video, video, video, video, right? So from a marketing standpoint, it's the same kind of thing. Like you want to look at like what's happening, uh, that people are already listening to. They're
Starting point is 00:08:10 talking about, cause if you jump out in front of it and you have a message, it's really easy to like bleed into that message versus have to go and recreate, um, noise by itself, right? Uh, cause there's noise already happening. So for you guys right now, we are at the time that we are going live right now, it's November 8th. So we are, what's that? In the next two months, there's a bunch of big things happening, right? We've got, well, we've got the Jake Paul, Mike Tyson fight coming up next week. How many of you guys are going to that or watching that? Come on, none of you guys, this is a big deal. So I'm going, I've got a picture. I've got a picture of Mike Tyson wearing a funnel hacker shirt. So you better believe that on my flight out there to go watch Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight. I'm going to be talking about click funnels. Mike Tyson, the funnel hacker, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. And trying to get people to buy click funnels because I'm going on this thing. There's a fight happening.
Starting point is 00:08:56 It's going to be the biggest, the most watched boxing match, probably in the history of all time. I'm going to make some noise around that. So we've got that coming up. Um, two weeks later, we got a thing called Thanksgiving, right so there's thanksgiving offers thanksgiving sales thanksgiving thing right what happens after thanksgiving then we have uh black friday right after right black and i hate black friday i've never gone out on black friday uh there's a couple years where like i i like my ego got so big in our company like we're not doing a black friday so it's stupid and guess what
Starting point is 00:09:23 happened we made a way like we made way less money because we didn't like we and so now like even if you do nothing if your black friday sells like hey it's black friday so you can buy my product at 100 the same price i normally sell just because you say it's a black friday sale there will be people who find like fine they can buy it now because it's black friday so you have black friday and then thank heavens for whoever made this up they invented a new holiday that two days later called cyber monday which is stupid. But like everyone knows what it is. So you can do a Black Friday sale and then a Cyber Monday sale.
Starting point is 00:09:48 You tap into that, which is exciting. So in the next two weeks, there's like four or five things that I can create YouTube videos about. I can do promotions about. I can create campaigns about. I can create offers about. I can create reasons for people to buy. People are just waiting for a reason to buy.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And so if you give them a compelling reason to buy, there's a good shot they're going to buy. Okay, what happens after that? Then we move into December. So December, um, I've got jury duty in December. So that's happening. Um, I could probably do a jury duty sale. Like, I don't even know. I'll probably get kicked off the jury. I'm like, who's like the guilty cell. Uh, if, if, if I, if I can pick this guy guilty, I'll give you a 10% off. He's innocent. You get 20% off. I don't know. And, uh, I'm sure I'll get kicked off the jury and then I'll have to do jury duty.
Starting point is 00:10:25 But then we've got Christmas coming up, 25th, okay? With Christmas, a lot of things. There's this thing called Hanukkah leading up to Christmas, right? There's this thing called the 12 days of Christmas leading to Christmas. Then there's happening to be Christmas Eve. Then there's actually Christmas.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Then there's the day after Christmas. Then after Christmas, then there's this thing called New Year's Eve and then New Year's and then New Year's Day. There's like 2,500 things coming up in the next two months that we can tie promotions, campaigns, content around that gets attention, okay? A lot of times we struggle because like how do we stimulate excitement and attention to our offers, to our videos, to our things, and sometimes we're thinking too hard. So what I like to do when I look at this,
Starting point is 00:10:57 I say, okay, I need to give people a reason to watch my video, to promote, to click, to buy, whatever. Like what's the reason they're doing something, okay? I'm taking my, like the business thing that I'm caring about, I'm looking at what's something big in social media or online or TV or holidays or something that other people are talking about and I'm gonna figure out how to morph those two things together, right? Like Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight,
Starting point is 00:11:20 what does it have to do with funnels? Everything, right? Mike Tyson, Jake Paul, funnels. Now you look at it like how does that happen? Like that doesn't make any sense. Like, well, what do funnels need? They need social media, YouTube stars. Oh, there's a whole story about Jake Paul here. He's a social media, YouTube star, right? Uh, you need a funnel. Mike Tyson happens to have a funnel, active funnel on side of click funnels, right? And I got a picture of him wearing a funnel hacker shirt. Therefore, Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight has everything to do with click funnels, right?
Starting point is 00:11:44 And so now I can tell a story and then weave that back into like, by the way, go get a ClickFunnels chart. By the way, go try OFA. By the way, here's Mike Tyson's blah, blah, blah, you know, whatever that thing might be. So, and you guys just got me excited because literally now I'm going to go and I'm going to contact Tyson's people and see if I can do a share funnel of his funnel that we could give away during the Tyson fight.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I didn't think about that until I just brought that up. So there you go. I'm making a Mike Tyson offer in the next seven days now. Thanks to you guys hanging out with me here. So that's kind of the thing I want you guys thinking through is again, what's the thing that you sell? What's the social thing happening? And how do you weave these things together?
Starting point is 00:12:17 One of the people that I think in our entrepreneurial community, that's the best at this is not from a selling offer standpoint, but from a content development standpoint is Gary Vee. If you notice Gary, like he doesn't have like other people in the marketing world on, he's got celebrities, he's got rappers, he's got things, but he's always tying it back to business and entrepreneurship. He's taking like the thing he wants attention about, the thing that's getting attention. And then if he's got to mush these two things together, so he can leverage the existing audience that cares about this and bring them over here. Right. So the reason why I haven't yet, yet to yet to be able to beat Gary Vaynerchuk in views and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Like I've had a mission for the last like 10 years. It's like Operation Barry Gary. Like how do we get more attention? And the reason why he gets more attention than me is because he's more strategic. He literally is going out there and partnering, you know, doing content with these huge celebrities that have nothing to do with what he's talking about. And then he weaves it back into entrepreneurship. And now he tapping to this audience and this audience, this movement, this exciting thing is happening.
Starting point is 00:13:10 And there's just so many more things. So I hope that gives you guys some ideas because a lot of times we build a funnel and then we're just waiting for people to buy. It's like, don't wait for people to buy. Give them a reason to buy. What's the reason right now? What should they do? And it doesn't always have to be, by the way, a huge discount.
Starting point is 00:13:23 During Cyber Monday and Friday, you'll see people always doing discounts. It doesn't have to be by the way a huge discount um during cyber monday and friday you'll see people always doing discounts it doesn't have to be a discount i hate discounting things as a whole so instead of like looking like i have to lower the price because a lot of times you like you'll lower the price like if you're sent off you buy during black friday and all your customers about last week are like angry like i paid full price like what you know so instead of thinking like how do i lower the price it's like how do you increase the value so it's Hey, if you buy during black Friday, you know, normally it's $500 for my course. You're still going to get the $500 course.
Starting point is 00:13:50 But on top of that, I'm going to give you these three bonuses that, um, if you buy during black Friday and that way you can give those bonuses to your past customers. So they don't get punished for buying from you earlier. But, uh, new people, it's like, Oh, there's a reason to buy now because again, it's all about that reason to buy. Um, so I hope that hope that kind of helps set off the tone for today before we jump into uh some q days any dante any follow-ups or anything you want me to add that kind of missed in there a hundred percent i mean i have a million
Starting point is 00:14:14 but let's try and keep it on track uh i i think that was an absolute gold nugget and you guys put a one in the chat if you agree about this gold nugget Russell just dropped where don't run a discount. Add bonuses to your offer. Bonuses. We've covered this pretty extensively. We've gone through a lot of Russell's books and his funnels and how Russell sells a physical product book but adds to it digital bonuses that add no overhead to our business. So add the bonus. And you put a two in the chat if you've ever had – if you've run a discount and then that discount created tons of logistical issues in your business, your customer support is crazy for two weeks because now everybody's all upset.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Now, nobody likes you just because you made a discount and it in your essence and your core. Yeah, I'm trying to serve. I want to get my thing to more people so they can smash these roadblocks and get back to doing big things in their life. I get it. It's all from a great place. But yeah, look at all the twos, right? I think that was an absolute gold nugget.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Just add, add bonuses and then give those bonuses to all your buyers. Cause what's the worst thing that happens? They get back into your product and service and they start doing the thing and they get results and then they want to buy more from you. That was that. He keeps over delivering every single time. This is great.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Yeah. Right. And we've talked about this a ton too, but you guys, I need you to really understand that, that the reason we all love Russell, the reason we all trust him, the reason we'll all do what he says is because we've said yes to Russell at
Starting point is 00:15:35 some point in the value ladder and Russell over delivered. He over delivered on what he promised us. And then we see over delivered again. And now we associate Russell with results. Russell, would you agree? there's nothing special about you? You bleed blue just like everyone else. You put your pants on one leg at a time. Everybody can do this.
Starting point is 00:15:52 You weren't born with some special gene that like, oh, people know, like, and trust Russell because he was born with this. No, it's your works over and over and over again that do that. Yeah, it comes back to like the foundational principle our whole company is built on is over over deliver. Like how do we over deliver? How do we over deliver? Napoleon Hill and his laws of success or in thinking, grow rich, both those, one of his laws is that, uh, do more than you're paid for and eventually be paid for more than what you do. And so it's like, how do I over deliver in every single situation? Right. And this is true, not just in business and marketing, by the way, this is true in your relationship with your spouse, with your kids, with your coworkers, like in every situation, it's it's like how do i how do i over deliver in this situation if you guys can get that mantra running through
Starting point is 00:16:28 your heads uh your marriages will be happier your kids will be heavier your friendships your customers your employees like everything gets better if you can figure out how to over deliver uh in every situation because if you over deliver people feel like man i'm getting the better end of the stick here and that just it changes everything it's a little simple simple, simple things that if you just start figuring out how to do that, it becomes awesome. So again, a lot of times just counting, it's like you're under delivering for the people that you bought earlier. It's like, that doesn't feel good. It's hard to over deliver for them. It was like, cool, let me hook them up. They get for free. So they're going to be pumped anyway. And then the new people are going to come in and they're going to be pumped. So I'm over delivering
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Starting point is 00:19:21 rocketmoney.com slash R-U-S-S-E-L-L. That's rocketmoney.com slash Russell. And talking about aligning with noise that's coming up, I think some of the most noise, especially for a lot of our experts here who provide services, I think some of the greatest noise is the noise just coming up now, which is going to be New Year. When the New Year hits, gang, how many people, maybe we even do it. We go to our Facebook and we start posting all this stuff. New year, new me. Right. We've seen it year after year after year. So I'm just curious, Russell, over your years,
Starting point is 00:19:56 have you like learned anything that's like, man, every single time the new year is coming, I'm going to run this thing. Like there's so much noise that's about to come. How could we align ourselves with that noise? Yeah, I think again, it comes always back to like, what are the people thinking about right now, collectively as a whole, not everybody, but the most people, right? January, it's like goals and your resolution, the new me, like I'm figuring things out. So you think about any of our products, right? Like for the most part, whatever we're selling, like we're helping somebody to get a result, right?
Starting point is 00:20:25 In some area of the life. And it doesn't matter if it's physical products or info products, but obviously we're on the, the OFA coaching or, you know, expert side. So for most of you,
Starting point is 00:20:32 it's that. So if it's like, let's say you're helping people lose weight or helping people trade money in the stock market, you're helping people to trade crypto. I don't want to, whatever your thing is, right?
Starting point is 00:20:41 So it's new year, like people are making these new commitments to themselves and they're excited. They're trying to change everything. So coming back and being like, in fact, um, man, I got a friend who every January he does a, he does a, like a time management, like prioritize your year challenge, like a three day challenge. And he does like five or six million dollars every January. Just doing this stupid thing where it's like, they all get on for
Starting point is 00:21:00 like three days and he gets everyone to sit there and map out their goals and create an outline and fill up their calendar. It's like, it's so simple, but everyone pays them. I think it's like 50 or 60 bucks to come to this challenge. And this entire audience comes because they have the result they want to learn from him, but they're coming in January. All right, we're going to plan. We're going to map things out.
Starting point is 00:21:16 It's going to be this amazing thing. And so putting something like that together, like how many of you guys, um, if you sat down and mapped out like a 365 day plan or or a 12-month plan or a New Year's resolution or the habits you got to implement in your life to get this goal within the next – by the end of quarter – something like that kind of a front end, that kind of a – again, if you study a lot of my stuff, I talk about dramatic demonstrations. It's a dramatic demonstration. Do a dramatic demonstration. Get people on a webinar or a call or a Facebook Live or something where they're coming in. And this is the reason they're coming is because New Year's, we're planning it out. The result I want to get is I want to learn how to trade stocks, make money, whatever your expertise is, fix my marriage, increase my testosterone, whatever your thing is, right? This is the result.
Starting point is 00:21:58 We're going to come into New Year's and do a plan. We're going to figure out how to do that thing together. So I think there's a lot of, uh, there's a lot of momentum moving into January that anyone in the expert business can tap into because people are every time, every new year's, what are people trying to do? They're trying to change. What is every expert business about? It's about giving people change, like taking them from, you know, it's all about contrast, right?
Starting point is 00:22:18 Taking them from bad to good, from, from, from, uh, you know, overweight to, to, to fit from poor to broke, like it's moving them from, from, from, you know, overweight to, to, to fit from poor to broke, like is moving them from, from, from hell to heaven. Like that's, that's what all of this businesses are. Right. And so coming in January and be like, Hey, the year's got done. And while most people, by the end of the year, like that's, that's why the new year's resolutions, they get to December, January, like, man, last year I had all these visions to do stuff and I got nothing done. Nothing changed in my life. Right. Same happens, by the way, in political campaigns. Four years later, like still nothing's changed.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Like if your platform has changed in a political election, you're probably going to win. Like that's kind of the thing, right? Because, but the same thing in the, as you as the politician of your market, right? Like you are fighting for the eyeballs and the attention of your market. So you're coming in and saying, look, change. You've been doing this for the last year. Didn't hit your goals. Maybe you did, maybe you didn't. But if you didn't, you know, look, change. You've been doing this for the last year. Didn't hit your goals. Maybe you did, maybe you didn't.
Starting point is 00:23:05 But if you didn't, you know, January, what is this? January 6th, we're jumping on. We're going to do a four-hour masterclass to help you guys to get your goals so you achieve this result, right? It could be a free masterclass. It could be a paid one. It doesn't matter. But getting people in, now there's a reason to jump in. You have to map out, like, here's the step-by-step process.
Starting point is 00:23:22 And it's like, hey, do you want my help with it? Cool, buy my course. Cool, join my coaching. Cool, do my here's the step-by-step process. And it's like, Hey, do I help with it? Cool. Buy my course. Cool. Do my coaching. Cool. Do my, but everything will help get you on that path. And so anyway, hope that kind of helps you guys be, I definitely don't, don't miss out on the opportunity to capitalize on, on big things in January, as you know, especially for the extra business is so big. Traditionally, it's harder to sell stuff in December in the expert world. Uh, in January is usually when everybody January, February, actually the best months. It's not always, I did a launch one day on january day because i was like january you know
Starting point is 00:23:48 so like new year's eve we planned it all the new year's day we launched the product i didn't even think about this i'm warming so i don't drink so i i just assume that everyone's like me and new year's day you're up at 6 a.m doing the same thing but apparently most new year's eve gets sloshed it's like we just launched on new Year's day and nobody showed up because they were all thrashed from the night before. And it was bad. So, um, so like,
Starting point is 00:24:08 I would not do a January 1st thing, but like January 6th, the next Monday, or even into February, um, you look at gyms, gyms don't get filled up in January. February is when it's like they buy the gym membership in January.
Starting point is 00:24:19 And then February is when it starts spiking. And then March is when it all drops off. But like, so yeah, you got like a good 60 day runway from January toary to be doing this with the audience and figuring something out putting something together that um that uh you know revolving around the message of change and how you can change and they can set the goals and they can you know finally achieve the the end result they've been looking for and that your program will help get them from from the hell
Starting point is 00:24:42 they feel like they're into the heaven that they're trying to trying to get to man you just really hit the nail on the head for for what like you changed my life with the one simple concept of know thy customer that's how i say it but introducing the dream customer right and i like to say know thy customer because if there's eight commandments of marketing because 10 makes me feel like a heretic it's absolutely know thy customer right it's where everything starts. But, you know, like Russell said, I made a launch on January 1. And it didn't work out. Well, what if your customer is Mormons specifically?
Starting point is 00:25:14 Mormons, 6 a.m., New Year's Day, let's go. Right. And it just reminds me of the Dan Kennedy, how he talks a lot about a dinner table conversation, right? Knowing your customer and if you know what they're doing on Saturday night, it typically tells you what they're doing on Sunday morning. And that can typically tell you all you need to know about your customer and how to market to them. So I just think that's gold. Russell, in the expert world, do you typically see that November and December are just lower as far as revenues? Because most people are focused on physical products and holidays and gifts and then that new year hits and that's when it ramps up?
Starting point is 00:25:50 I would say yes, but I don't think it's because of the customers. I think it's because of the mindset of the person teaching it. Everyone's like, December's a bad month, so they take their foot off the gas. I've actually had some of my best converting offers ever hit in December. So I don't think it's a real fault, a real thing. I think it's a false belief. And because people have that false belief, a lot of people won't go and push during December. But we have a, you know, we have an offer launched in December, November 26th. We have an event December 16th.
Starting point is 00:26:19 So it still works. People are still buying. They are more distracted for sure. Sometimes they're, they're saving money and whatever. Um, but one sweet spot just, you guys know that works really good is the week after Christmas. So what happens is Christmas happened. They bought all the Christmas presents. A lot of people, they got, they've got some money for Christmas. They got a bunch of gifts. They returned, they have some cash and, uh, that little week between, and a lot of them don't have work that week. So the week, like from Christmas to new year's is actually like
Starting point is 00:26:43 this little secret gold mine that I'm always sprinkling things in and, and, uh, making offers for people because they've got extra cash. They got extra time. Um, they may be around family and friends and stuff, but at the same time, sometimes they're tired of that. So there's a, there's a window there that is actually really ideal. Um, I'm, I'm figure I finished planning our strategy, but my guess is that week I'll do some kind of live virtual event to pitch into something in January that will be more around the goal setting type thing. So there's my strategy for you. Cool, man. I love that.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And everybody should be starting to think about this now. Right. You have your expert templates. Just clone that funnel. Make a duplication of that funnel. And let's start building our marketing for the months to come. Right. We've learned that over these years. That's how we have to start thinking. I know
Starting point is 00:27:27 if you're just starting out the challenge right now, timing may not be ideal, but a lot of you have already been in the challenge. You're existing, you have your thing. So let's start building and aligning with the noise that's currently out there. You gave a great example, Russell, of like a financial planner, whether it's Bitcoin or actual monies, it doesn't matter. Right now, there is so much noise around finance. Now that this election has finished, there is so much noise about finance. There is so much noise about where the market's going. There is so much noise about how to read the market trends and make the right decisions. I mean, if you're teaching people their actual physical monies and how to invest in stocks or whatever it is there is noise a plenty that you can align with right now start generating leads turn those leads into customers that was awesome that was by the way it winds up
Starting point is 00:28:15 like crazy right now there is and i checked you i'm like so grateful five years ago someone told me buy those bitcoin things wherever they were 100 oh man okay amazing it's only 12 25 so we have some time to talk to our people let's start it out with craig craig hasn't had a chance to speak yet and i'd love to hear from him how are we craig hey good morning all great to see all of you guys i do have kind of a strange question i'm kind of rushed to try and solve it um rus, you know about the program that you were offering yesterday. I need to sell about $2,000 worth of, obviously, funnels by tomorrow at midnight. What funnel am I going to sell to doctors, lawyers, people that need scheduling? Is a scheduling funnel going to be the best one for me to be able to try and pull this off?
Starting point is 00:29:08 So is it doctors or lawyers? Two different, very different demographics. Well, I've got a lot more people that are doctors, dentists, optometrists in my area. Because I'm kind of a flyover country in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. I'm targeting people like that.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Even with doctors, dentists, and whatever, that's still three huge segments. So I would say pick one. If you're a dentist, because there's a different funnel for each of those. You know what I mean? Okay. Well, with my deadline, I've got to pick one, so I'm going to pick dentists. Cool.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So Anissa Holmes is in my inner circle. She has been forever. She is a dental guru, and she does, do you think the funnels she uses? She does Invisalign and teeth whitening funnels. So she basically sets up a funnel. She targets a local area right around the dentist's office of people that are hiding at Worth and drives leads in there to get people into Invisalign, teeth whitening, things like that.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And so I'm sure if you Googled and looked around and started looking at some of her stuff, you could probably find a version of what she's doing or what she's teaching people and stuff like that. So I'd probably do a funnel like that and then come back and go find – hit up all the dentists around or – there need to be around, any dentist in the world. Hey, there's this really cool funnel that's working in the dental space right now. It's an Invisalign funnel or it's a teeth whitening funnel, whatever one that you find. Yeah, so I would go look at, look at Anissa Holmes. She's, again, she's a dental, one of the dental gurus who's teaching and doing funnels. There's probably a couple other ones out there. Start searching, doing some research, funnel hacking, find like
Starting point is 00:30:35 the structure of a funnel that's, that, that the other dentists are successfully using. Go try to build one in ClickFunnels as a as a as a case study and then start dialing for dollars start calling people and start showing them showing the funnels all right i'll go right after lisa stuff and see what i can find to put something together and then i'm gonna go to the dentist's office and say hey here's something i can offer you guys maybe we can get you a whole bunch of more customers be Yeah. And think about like, like one, one Invisalign customers worth, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:31:08 three, four, five grand for them. So it's like, if I get you one customer, will you help invest in this program? You know,
Starting point is 00:31:13 whatever that might be. So yeah. Great advice. I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah, no worries. And hopefully I'll be
Starting point is 00:31:21 in the group in the next hour and then maybe I'll be inside and be able to get my certifications. Appreciate the help. Thank you. Of course. I'm going from this meeting to that one, so I'll see you over there in like 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Awesome. And you guys stick around. After I let Russell go, I'll teach you value ladders based on dentistry. It's exactly how Russell taught value ladders to me back in the day, and it's how he told it in Dotcom Secrets. And I think it'll really help kind of pull everything together for you guys. Let's hop over, though. Let's hop over to Maureen.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Maureen has not had a chance to speak. How are we today, Maureen? I'm doing great. How's everyone? You're amazing. Awesome. So, Russell, in the VSL video video it's a bit confusing you mentioned some people confused but yeah i'm finding myself confused uh when you're building the funnel so we have the
Starting point is 00:32:18 lead magnet that we offer on the first page then you talk about the video that we don't have to create a new lead magnet. You can just use the video. So what video exactly are we talking about? Are we talking about the webinar, the perfect webinar video? Like where does it come from? So this is what I'm currently doing.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I want to, I'm selling an ebook. I have already sold over a hundred copies. So we have the testimonials and all that so I want to run ads and I'm building it using the VSL funnel so I'm thinking I want to combine the ebook and the master class so what and there are like three videos after the first one. So I'm really confused. Like, where are we getting all these videos? Number one. And then like what video goes where? Because you have the video on the first page. Then you have like four videos down that, you know, that are locked.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And then now on the next page is also a video. So it's a bit confusing like yep so on the okay gotcha so on the template those four videos those aren't four videos those are four screenshots from video they're going to watch on the next page yes so saying on the video next page you're going to learn this this it's just a screenshot of like different parts of the video does that make sense no come again okay so there's only one so on on the sales page only one video but on the the page before it those four videos that's screenshots from the video they're gonna watch so you basically video on the next page you're gonna learn step one step two step three step four and i'm sure a screenshot of of clips from the video they're
Starting point is 00:34:04 gonna be watching on the next page. Also, they're screenshots. They're not videos. Yep, screenshots. Okay. And then so what video goes on the first page? Is it the perfect webinar story? And what video goes to the second page?
Starting point is 00:34:19 Okay, were you on the call last week? Yes, yes, I was on the call. Okay, so last week, that's because we spent the whole time i was talking about that video so that video is the who what why how script right and then we went a little deeper we took the who and we did the epiphany bridge because we did epiphany bridge script yeah i have all that the that's the video that's the video that goes right there that's where you're pitching your book and your masterclass. Yep. Ah, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Makes sense. And then now on the next video, what do you put? There's no next video. Then they go over to form, they give you the money. Yep. Ah, okay. So in this case, since I'm doing a masterclass, so the masterclass will be about,
Starting point is 00:35:03 also it's just the who, what, where. That's like the masterclass. Because I've done a webinar before, so I was thinking, do I bring that webinar to that video or how does that work? What's the price point you're selling the thing at? The e-book is, I've sold it before for $29, but now, and then I ran ads, but it didn't work.
Starting point is 00:35:25 So now I just want, but organically it works, but when it comes to ads, it doesn't. So because it's a tech ebook. So I want to, because people are like, they want more of the video. So I want to combine both a masterclass and the ebook so that we have- What price point can you sell it then?
Starting point is 00:35:44 So I want to combine both of them at seven dollars 99 but i've sold the book before for 14.99 and for 29.99 just the ebook okay so the perfect webinars if you're selling something that's like a thousand dollars or more so you don't need something to sell a perfect webinar sell a 7 or 15 or 30, even a hundred dollar product. Right. Okay. So all you're doing is that who, what, why, how script tell the story of every beginning. And then from there, you're pitching the book. That's it should be from a 12 to a 20 minute video there. Oh, so the 12 to 20 minute video of the who, what, where, so that is like also like the masterclass. And then I pitched the book. That's it.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Was the masterclass a bonus that you're giving with the book or you're trying to teach the masterclass? Right. Is that, are they opting in for your masterclass information? Wow. So I think this, this gets confusing because I thought the master class is the video, the who, what, where master.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Is that the master class or no? Master class is something you sell. That's like a course. Yes. Ah, okay. All right. So I just wanted, okay, so I don't have to do the master class because I've done a master class before to sell a $2,000 book, not course.
Starting point is 00:37:02 So I can just do the video, the Who, What, Where video and then sell the e-book. That's it. That's right. Thank you. It's almost too simple. It's almost too easy. Make it easy for you. When I was running ads, I honestly couldn't get a sell
Starting point is 00:37:19 on the e-book and it was getting frustrating because people are like, this is technology. You cannot trade a book. But organically, I've sold the book in over 20 countries uh one thing i recommend for you because you're if you're selling a straight book the the funnel that we're teaching inside of one funnel way might be a little bit different so um like i look at a book funnel more specific so if you go to like any of my book funnels dot com secrets expert secrets traffic seekers and look at that that's probably how I would model it. So that's why I would funnel hack is look at one of those.
Starting point is 00:37:49 It's similar strategy, but I probably would go like when I drive ads to a book funnel, I don't go to a squeeze page. I go directly to the page. That's the two step order form on it. It's usually a shorter video because sell book doesn't cost and take a lot. Usually it's a three minute video. Same thing. Who, what, why, how, but it's a three minute video pushing to the to the book okay then from there then you have upsells and downsells for
Starting point is 00:38:08 other things but um yeah if you're selling a just a straight book i'd probably use a different funnel for that oh awesome so i can forget the vsl funnel for now and then just build maybe a lead magnet uh finally book funnel book funnel yes, but separately to get leads organically. I can do that. Oh yeah. You get a separate, but yeah, if you're driving ads, I would drive them directly to the homepage of a book funnel. Don't, don't put them through a squeeze page prior.
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Starting point is 00:41:09 linkedin.com slash clicks. Terms and conditions may apply. LinkedIn is the place to be, to be. Okay. Let's hop over to Tamar. Tamar hasn't had a chance to speak. Hey, Tamar. Hi. Oh my goodness. Hi, Russell. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Wow. This is, this is beyond incredible. First of all, I just have to tell you, I was in tears last week when you gave, I forget what her name was. Was it Annie? That story? Annie, yeah. That was one of the most special moments. Oh my gosh. Whoa. Okay. Quick question for you, Russell. I'm super excited for the Selling Online event. I'm attending that. I launched my own business a few months ago. I've been working as a
Starting point is 00:41:55 product designer for the past five years in corporate. And I decided to launch my own business doing product and UX strategy consulting. Grew up in an entrepreneurial family and always wanted to do something in the business space. My dad had a successful company that he decided to sell to Experian. So I went from working for a 150-employee company to joining a 20,000 plus experience group. And I just, I really wanted to be in a smaller setting where I felt like I could be a more valuable contributor and see, you know, the value that I was providing to the team and my assets could be more implemented and like a quicker, faster, you know, whatever. Anyways, so I saw a huge gap in the industry that I was working in. And that was the gap between strategic alignment with business strategy and product strategy. And as a product
Starting point is 00:42:51 designer, I was having a very hard time because I wanted to feel like I was providing value to the company at large. I wanted to know that the designs that I was working on, the projects that we were doing, were going to move the needle for the company. And I wanted to know, like, you know, how are our product strategies aligned with the business objective goals? And basically, for almost my whole career, I was really never able to get that answer. And that's when I realized that there was this huge gap between the strategic alignment. So I wanted to go off on my own. And basically, I'm basically on a mission to empower product managers to increase awareness and to be equipped with the tools that they need to encourage and execute and implement this strategic alignment within their company.
Starting point is 00:43:37 And there's clearly a huge gap because I started a podcast, or I should say this podcast kind of started itself. Someone gave me this idea. I teased it out with my network. Within 48 hours, I had 30 responses. I was like, yikes, okay, this podcast is starting itself. So I quickly put that together, and now I'm booked through February. There's an outpour of interest and support around this topic, but when it comes to actually
Starting point is 00:44:03 landing leads, I have not been successful. So I'm trying to understand it's very hard for someone like me, who's crazy passionate, right? Like ADHD bursting with energy, like could just talk to anyone about this all day long. I know nothing about that. No, nothing. I'm not going to inquire. Funnels are the best thing ever. Yeah, right. Exactly. So the question, the question is how to find, how to find that customer, right? Is that, is that the question? Well, it's, I have a group of like product managers that I can talk to, but what I have a hard time is I've identified the problem.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I know how I can solve it, which is usually with one-on-one coaching and workshop facilitation and collaboration like sessions, right? That, that is ultimately how you solve it. But a lot of these product managers are in a situation where they don't even realize that they have this problem. And so trying to market to them to show them that, wait, this is actually something you're struggling with is very much focusing on the results that I'm going to bring to them, but they don't realize that they need those results.
Starting point is 00:45:03 And so I'm having a hard time trying to figure out a way to first tell them, Hey, by the way, like this is something you're struggling with. And I know that because I've experienced X, Y, Z, this is what I'm seeing. Sounds familiar, right? Oh, yes it does. Okay. Well now that it sounds familiar, why don't you join me in? Right. So it's like the process is so long. Yes. Okay. So this is a, so this is what marketing was invented for, by the way. Um, because that's the problem is like people have a problem, but they don't know what's the problem and you have a solution, right? So there's a, uh, I can't remember who said it, but there's a, an old marketing, um, thing, whatever they call problem agitate solution,
Starting point is 00:45:38 right? So you find someone who's got a problem and we'll just like, yeah, I got a problem. And what marketing does is it takes that problem and it agitates it like crazy it's like oh oh you've got a problem you're you're not happy you're not and like that's what marketing is is like taking this problem and agitating agitating until it becomes like a little problem like this huge problem you're like oh and that's why marketing gets a bad rep by the way a lot of times because it's like you know we're all out here in any market like trying to figure out like you know your life's good but it could be better in fact this is the problem you have and we agitate actually, actually, it makes that problem grow. Right. Like when I got into this world, nobody knew they had a funnel problem. They don't even
Starting point is 00:46:11 know they needed a funnel. Like it wasn't a thing a decade ago, you know, but I was like, you have a funnel. Oh, I'm like, what's the funnel? I'm like, God, I explained it. And I had to actually eventually like, I had to have a funnel. I need, you know, and like, and then the market needs it. Right. So that's like your role as this is to do that so it's like you you you get this group of people right they have the affinity that and it sounds like you're starting that you're building that so that's a big part of is bringing people in affinity and then what your job is to do as the marketer is like how do i they have a problem it's probably a big deal right now i got a solution that can solve it but i got to make this problem feel really heavy so that they desire the solution right
Starting point is 00:46:44 and so there's a lot of ways to that. And everyone has different takes on how they do it. But if you watch really good marketing, that's all they're doing is they're just agitating the problem, agitating the problem. And it can be fun. It can be like you telling your stories. You're just like,
Starting point is 00:46:54 Hey, I had this thing and I didn't realize it was a problem. But then when I solved it, like this was the result and it was huge. And like it changed everything for it. It's just, it's storytelling. You know,
Starting point is 00:47:03 sometimes it's going to be the long form podcast. It could be short, like 60 second reels, but it's just, it's just it's storytelling you know sometimes it's gonna be the long form podcast it could be short like 60 second reels but it's just it's figuring out like that problem and you just gotta keep agitating and agitating agitating until people like wow this this problem really really is frustrating right i mean how many times have you guys this is for everybody listening but how many times have you like you had something that you realized the big deal in life and then all of a sudden you got retargeted on ads kept seeing over and over and over again eventually like like, wow, I do have a double chin. Wow, my pants are like getting a little tighter. Like I do need to go on a weight,
Starting point is 00:47:29 like I do need to go on a weight loss plan, right? Like that's the marketer's job is to agitate the problem until it becomes big enough that they desire the solution. And so that's just kind of the role that you guys start playing with. And I think you gotta find your version of it that you feel comfortable with, that you enjoy, that's fun, that's not like the sleazy. Because if you're not careful, you'll start hating, because like,
Starting point is 00:47:47 I don't like that I'm trying to like poke at this problem, but instead like, like what's your version of it? Is it humor? Is it funny? Is it story? Is it like, but kind of finding that and then start testing it with that existing audience. In fact, even interviewing people, like what's the problem? And then digging deeper, like. So that is my podcast. I have like 30 speakers lined up, literally, like industry experts, huge people, authors of like my favorite books. I am not shy. I have reached out. I mean, I have like, I don't know why in the world, I'm so humbled.
Starting point is 00:48:15 I don't know why they agreed, but they were like, sure, I'll jump on the podcast, you know? So like, I have a big name, like, it's definitely, you know, it's, it's going to be awesome. There's clearly a need for this because I have, you know, people who don't have time for me that agree to do it. So like tapping into those industry experts is for sure, I think, going to help to raise this awareness. It's just, you know, okay. So, okay, a couple things. So if you read Expert Secrets, I talk about this a little bit.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I talk about the hero's journey. And it's like the journey, there's the journey of achievement that in a movie people are aware of like they're aware of i'm trying to achieve this thing and then the hero's second journey is the journey of transformation and what happens with most people when they first get into this game they're talking about the achievement like oh no big money i'm helping help you lose weight i'm helping you have more time like that thing but like to make marketing really really good it's like you you touch upon like the achievement they're trying to get, but then you go down to the transformation they actually
Starting point is 00:49:10 desire. And a lot of times to figure out what that is. So when you're interviewing your people, like they're probably going to be very surface level, like here's the achievement, here's why it's cool. You know, in your job as the interviewer is to go deep. And so usually that means it's like you got to ask why usually like separate time. Well, why did you want that? Why'd you want that? And like, usually comes down to like this deep, there's, there's a reason. And like, when you can get that part and you can touch that, that's when, that's when those things will open up for people. Right. It's the same thing. Like when I tell my story, like, yes, I talk about the achievement, but then I always, soon they touch upon the achievement that I either desired or I went or I got or whatever
Starting point is 00:49:42 that I stopped. And I'm like, but the reason why is this? And I go deep into like that, that part of the story, which is, which is like what I, who I wanted to become and the pain that was in that. And like, and because I'm willing to share those things where most people aren't the rest of your audience also here and like, oh my gosh, I can't believe you said that. That's how I feel too. I would never tell it to someone publicly that this person said that. And now they have rapport with you because you're willing to talk about like who you were trying to become and the pain you were in. And when you're vulnerable like that, because everyone has the same vulnerabilities,
Starting point is 00:50:11 very few people are going to share them. And when an expert will come up and they'll, they'll show that they got the result, but then they'll talk about what they were actually trying to do. Like for me, starting a business had very little to do with money. Even though I talked, I wanted to start a business. I want to make money. Like the reality is my wife and I had just gotten married. I was a wrestler. She was supporting me. She was six years older than me. She wanted to start a family.
Starting point is 00:50:30 We couldn't because I didn't have a job. I didn't have any money. She had to support us. Like, that's why I really got business. I would see her every single day knowing that all she wanted to do is be a mom. And that broke me.
Starting point is 00:50:39 It hurt me, you know? And I was like, how can I support her? But I didn't want to quit my, my wrestling. I love it. I have to figure out something.
Starting point is 00:50:44 I figured out something like that was what drove me on the mission was I wanted my wife to be a mother. Like that was it. And I shared that then there's connection. And then they're like, wow. And they have their version of the story that they'll connect with. And that's where you're agitating the problem, right? Like you're not rich yet. You're not having money. It's like, no, no, no. Like that doesn't actually matter for my business. That's my version of it. Right. So if you're finding version and asking people questions to get them to feel that, um, and then that's where you start getting into people's hearts. And that's when, when things will shift for you.
Starting point is 00:51:14 And then ultimately you end up using the funnel to close a coaching. Like, is it, is it like a package of coaching sessions? It depends. There's, there's a million ways to do it. So normally what happens in the expert world, a lot of coaching sessions? It depends. There's, there's a million ways to do it. So normally what happens in the expert world, a lot of people come in initially, it's one-on-one,
Starting point is 00:51:30 they'll sell one-on-one stuff for a little bit. And then, uh, very quickly you'll get overwhelmed. Cause like, this is awesome and horrible. And then usually people switch from one-on-one to one to many to group. And then,
Starting point is 00:51:39 uh, that's what I did for a long time. And then the, the, the way I do my coaching, like if you look at, um, the prime mover coaching program, what we do, that's called facilitated coaching. We're basically a facilitators to facilitate. That's what I did for a long time. And then the way I do my coaching, like if you look at the Prime Mover coaching program,
Starting point is 00:51:45 what we do, that's called facilitated coaching, where basically I have facilitators to facilitate. And that's, I think, the ultimate place to get to. But you just start with one-on-one because it's the easiest way and you get the most money quickly. And then as you start getting to like the over time for free, you get overwhelmed, like all the pressure that's like, okay, now it's just one-to-many, you know, group coaching and then facilitation. So that's typically um typically the the pattern um
Starting point is 00:52:06 and how you fulfill it depends less on a lot of people like how many hours like is it five calls or 10 calls like it matters less about that and more about like the results how long does it take to get the result you're promising them you can do it in one hour call people have paid me 50 grand for one hour call because they're like i just have this one totally for me i'm like 100 done so figure out what's what's the the the value of the problem you're solving for them and what you actually have to deliver to get to solve that problem for them and that's that's the actual key they don't care about how many sessions or hours it's just like hey for us to get this done it's gonna take this to take us two months it's gonna take us six weeks like whatever that actually looks like give them a blueprint what it looks like and that's what they're looking
Starting point is 00:52:43 for is the actual result right absolutely because Absolutely. Cause people have said like, oh, well, do you have a coaching program? You know, that I could download? I'm like, yeah, no. Okay. So not yet. Exactly. I was trying to find funnels of people who were doing coaching, like sessions that I could like, like see how they were doing it. Do you have any names like off the top of your head of people who are selling coaching packages or like workshop facilitation? Yeah, this guy named Russell Brunson does it. So he does it all the time.
Starting point is 00:53:12 That's one spot. If you said you're going to selling online event, that's what we sell at the end of selling online events. So you can see kind of what that looks like. Fun, super. Richmond Din did a really cool, he spoke at the last Fun I Can Lie about tiny challenges. And then I did a really cool, uh, he spoke at the last phone. I can lie about tiny challenges. And then I did a, I did a YouTube interview.
Starting point is 00:53:27 So worst case, watch, go find the Richmond din YouTube video on tiny challenges. It's a really cool way to do it. That's really low risk. And Richmond, Richmond's killing it with those. He does these one-on-one little mini challenges. He charges someone like 25 K to do to like five, one hour calls. And then he charges people five K to listen in on it and it's so awesome and then aj and smart at their best i am an i'm like an honorary member jonathan
Starting point is 00:53:52 i was a member since 2021 they are like it's awesome okay fantastic thank you thank you dante thank you everyone no worries thank you you got Great work. Hey, Russell, it's 1248. I know I got to get you out of here. So let me do it now before I get too excited. No worries. Yeah, thanks, you guys. I got to jump on the other challenge to finish up. But thanks for hanging out today.
Starting point is 00:54:15 And hopefully you all got one or two things that will be helpful for you. And grateful for you guys being here inside of the OFA Challenge. I hope that it's been – hopefully it's been everything you guys need to unlock this part of you. Again, I'll just kind of end with how strongly I believe that every single one of you guys have been called to God to change people's lives. And this is the process and the path to figure out how to do that, right? It's figuring out who your dream customers, who you call to serve, how to create something that's going to change their life. And then what's the funnel that's going to connect those two things together. And so I know that all of you guys different points in your journey. Some of you guys are at the end, some of you guys are in the
Starting point is 00:54:44 middle, some of you guys are in the middle, some of you guys are all sorts of, but I promise you it's worth it to put the time and the energy in. And hopefully we're doing our best to facilitate that. Dante's insanely cool, as you guys know. The challenge is great, you know, but just keep diving in the community,
Starting point is 00:54:55 keep showing up. You know, for me, when I first started this game, there was none of this kind of stuff. It took me two years of trial and error with no guidance at all to figure out how to like sell a potato gun DVD, right? We've tried to shortcut as much as possible, but if it keeps showing up, sometimes we get,
Starting point is 00:55:11 you know, we get overwhelmed. It's like, oh man, it's been a month or six months or a year and we're not there. But like Tony Robbins always says, we always overestimate what we can do in a year and underestimate what we can do in a decade. If you keep showing up for your people, you know, in a year, five years, 10 years from now, you won't recognize. I mean, like I look back 10 years ago, that's before we launched ClickFunnels. Like the last decade has been insane. Um, but it all comes back to just showing up and keep doing it. So I'm grateful for you guys. Proud of you guys. And, um, I should be
Starting point is 00:55:36 able to see you guys. Oh, next week I'm going to be at Mike Paul, Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight. So if I can figure out how to do it remote, but anyway, we'll see what happens next week. So I appreciate you guys. Thank you, Dante. I'll pass it back to you to keep hanging out with all these amazing people. All right. We appreciate you, Russell. Maybe I can fire you up before selling online, but I know I say it a lot. I am so grateful for you saying yes to your calling and purpose. I'm so grateful for you being honest about your mission and your journey along the way. Cause all the honest, true stories are what hit me in the heart. And you were the catalyst to that little spark that I didn't even know what was in there because you did your thing
Starting point is 00:56:07 just like you're teaching everyone man eternally grateful we love you russell have an amazing rest of your day brother all right thank you thanks everybody awesome

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