The Russell Brunson Show - How To Increase Your Tips (And Your Profit Margins)
Episode Date: June 30, 2017What was going through my mind when tipping at IHOP. On today's episode Russell talks about going out to breakfast with his daughter for her birthday and how watching the server work so hard to make ...a small wage made Russell wonder why he didn't work somewhere that he could make more money, and how that relates to being an entrepreneur. Here are a few interesting things in this episode: How Russell would increase his ticket sales if he were still a server. How waiters increasing ticket sales relates to being an entrepreneur. And why if you can't be the cheapest in your industry, you should be the most expensive. So listen to Russell's awesome advice on how to increase your ticket sales and make more profit for yourself. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-increase-your-tips-and-your-profit-margins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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So the big question is this.
How are entrepreneurs like us, who didn't cheat and take on venture capital,
who are spending money from our own pockets,
how do we market in a way that lets us get our products and our services
and the things that we believe in out to the world and yet still remain profitable?
That is the question and this podcast will give you the answers.
My name is Russell Brunson and welcome to Marketing Secrets.
What's up everybody? This is Russell and welcome to Marketing Secrets.
While I'm in my car.
Oh, this is a flashback from podcasts earlier.
Anyway, I'm doing this right now because, well first off, I hung out with Justin Williams last week and he yelled at me saying,
you used to do podcasts every single week and now they're like three, four times a week but now you're not in your car, you're not doing them very often.
So I was like, crap, that's right.
Anyway, I'm driving to get my haircut today because it's huge, and I figured out how to mount this thing on my car
so I can do it while driving
so nobody yells at me.
This is what actually happened.
I had a whole bunch of you guys.
I was doing the podcast with the camera.
Went into marketing a car with just my phone.
Nobody ever yelled at me,
but they saw me on video.
I got yelled at by everybody,
so I stopped doing it that way.
But now that it's mounted up,
I can just drive and talk
and not even pay attention to you guys,
so no yelling at me.
All right.
That's the deal.
All right.
So that said, um, today's a cool day for a couple of reasons.
Um, number one, uh, it's my daughter's 10 year old birthday, which is insanely cool.
Uh, and so, uh, this morning I'm actually flying out today.
So this morning I had a chance to go and, um, actually take her out to breakfast.
And so her, her breakfast of choice was IHOP.
And I was like, come on, we can take you to like Waffle Me Up or any of these really cool places.
And she's like, no, I want IHOP.
And I was like, as we're driving there, it's funny, I'm like, there's only two kinds of people that like IHOP, Ellie.
She's like, well, who are they?
I'm like, grandmas and little kids.
And I was like, watch when we get there how many grandmas are there.
So we got in there and we counted and there was like, I don't know know like 13 or 14 grandmas in there and then me and her so I was
like that's it anyway it's kind of funny so um anyway that was really fun and then she had a
birthday party so I went and raced and we got her bike this morning and then bring back the birthday
party and then I'm actually getting my haircut because I'm about to fly out to Utah because I
got two cool things happening in Utah number one one is the Harmon Brothers are making our viral video
and they actually started filming it today and to be
completely honest it's kind of killing me. I wish I was there. I want to
be watching it
but I couldn't today. So I'm flying down there tomorrow
to catch some behind the scenes footage
and all that kind of stuff
for our Funnel Hacker TV show.
So I'll be flying down there which is going to be really cool.
And the second cool thing is I'm actually going
to a meeting with Timothy Ballard who is the dude who runs Operation Underground Railroad, which is I guess it's a charity or organization.
I don't know exactly what it is, but they help they help save kids who have been abducted and put into sex slavery.
And so we're going to be helping build funnels and helping grow that whole mission.
So I'm really it's a passion project.
I'm really excited for.
So that's what's happening on this trip. So if you're watching Funnel Hacker
TV, you'll see behind the scenes of that stuff. If not, go to funnelhacker.tv and go hang out with
us over there too. There's a lot of fun stuff happening. So, all right, my, my message though
for you guys today, um, and this is something that I don't know why more people don't think
about this, but it's important. So we went to IHOP today, as you know, as you now know. And, uh, and, uh, my daughter ordered the pancake with the fluffies and the
sprinkles, their sprinkles on it and bacon and egg, right? Her cost is like three bucks or something
like that. And then I go and I ordered, um, scrambled eggs, side of bacon, side of avocado,
because that fits in my macros for all you healthy
nerds. And so our bill was like 12 bucks, you know. And I look at the server and the
server's running around, I'm grabbing all our stuff in his and grabbing water's and
grabbing A1 because I love putting A1 on eggs. If you haven't tried it yet, it's insanely
good. I did it one time because I had bacon and eggs, or excuse me, steak and eggs and
I put A1 on the steak and some of it spilled on the eggs. That way I was like, this is an egg topping, not for steak. So if you haven't had steak and A1 on your
eggs, scrambled eggs yet, like you should totally try it. It's amazing. Anyway, I digress. So
where was I going with this whole thing? Oh yeah. So the server's running out of frantic.
I get the bill at the end of it and I look at it and it's like, what, 1243 or something. And I was
like, all right. So as someone who tips and I'm a good tipper, so I didn't tip him that much.
I left a lot more money than that.
But if I was to say, okay, well, 10% of that means you're on a buck, what, $25?
$1.25 was what he made from me for all his efforts.
Or if I do 15%, it's like, what, $2?
If I do 30%, it's like $3.
And so that's what most people do.
Like, especially like the grandmas that are IHOP,
like they have their little calculators out.
They're figuring out, okay, I owe him $1.13.
And they give you exactly the tip.
And if you're, you know, if you're bad,
they're going to give you 5%.
If you're okay, you get 10.
If you're great, you get 15.
But that's how it works.
And I'm looking at this and the server was a young dude.
I'm like, man, like he's killing himself
for this little thing, right? And I was just in this and the server was a young dude. I'm like, man, like he's killing himself for this little thing.
Right.
And I, and I was just in the office before I headed to get my haircut, which I'm stuck
in traffic.
My haircut's in three minutes and I missed it.
I'm going to go crazy.
Um, anyway, so, uh, I was just talking to them.
I was like, look, if that dude, instead of getting a job at IHOP where the average ticket
is like 12 bucks, if you're doing the same work but got a job at a steakhouse or sushi place
where the average ticket's like 50 or 100 bucks,
you can do the exact same amount of work and get way more money, right?
Because it's just people tip off of a percentage.
So if my bill is 12 bucks, you're getting $1.20.
That's 10%, right?
If it's 112 bucks, you're getting $10, whatever math is on that, right?
By doing the exact same amount of effort.
So the moral of the story is like, if you're serving tables, like go and sell more expensive
stuff because you're getting paid a percentage of the ticket price, right?
So you got to sell the most expensive thing.
That's why as a Mormon, like when I go and I go to restaurants and they always try to
sell you alcohol, right? Because alcohol is huge, huge profit margins, big ticket, and then get you to
buy a lot more stuff. And so we never buy the alcohol. And so they, and those other Mormons
are out there know that like, if you're in a nice restaurant and you don't order alcohol,
they don't treat you as good because they're like, ah, crap. So I always tell people when they ask,
like, they ask, you know, what do you want to drink? I'm like, oh, we don't drink, but don't worry. We tip really, really good because I want them to know. Cause I don't want them to're like, ah, crap. So I always tell people, when they ask me, they ask, you know, what do you want to drink? I'm like, oh, we don't drink,
but don't worry, we tip really, really good.
Because I want them to know,
because I don't want them to treat me like crap
because I didn't drink,
because my ticket price is going to be smaller, right?
Like, good servers understand that.
And so I warn them ahead of time,
like, I'm a really, really good tipper.
Like, I tip 30, 40, 50%, sometimes 100%.
Like, I'm a great tipper, as long as you treat me good.
If you treat me bad, like, I'm still a good tipper,
but like, I'm a great tipper as long as you treat me good. If you treat me bad, like so good tipper, but like I'm a great tipper if you treat me
good.
Right.
And so, um, uh, anyway, so, so kind of the, the thought is like for, if you're serving
tables, it's like you gotta be selling the highest ticket thing.
And if I was serving tables again, which the only job I've ever had for real serving tables,
I really, really, really liked it.
Right.
Um, but it's all about like that, like ticket price.
Right.
So like if I was a server today, I would, I would have people order dessert first because most time the end of the end of the million, not hungry anymore. Right. Um, but it's all about like that, like ticket price. Right. So like if I was a server today, I would, I would have people order dessert first because most time the end of the end of the
meal, you're not hungry anymore. Right. You're not hungry anymore. You're not going to buy dessert.
And so then my ticket price went down. So my tip just shrunk. So I'd be going ahead time. Like,
look, um, you know, a lot of people, um, in the middle, they're, they're full or whatever. Like
I'm gonna give you 10% discount if you order dessert first. And I would do that because it
would increase my ticket price, right?
Because everyone wants dessert when you go in,
but when you're offered it, it's hard to eat it
because you're typically so full, right?
Number two, think about Olive Garden started doing this a little while ago
and it was brilliant.
After you get done eating, they say,
hey, what would you like to order for tomorrow?
And they had a second meal, so you order a second meal
to take home and eat the next day.
Now you just doubled your ticket price because you sold them two meals instead of one. Like if I was serving tables today, that's the first thing I would be doing is offering
dessert. Then I take their meal. And then at the end of the meal, I'm like, that was good, huh?
How'd you like, I know you guys aren't gonna come back tomorrow, but if you want, you can order off
menu right now and I'll go package up and then you can have this tomorrow as well. And I don't
know what percentage would take it, but I know there's a big percentage to take the second meal. And so now I just doubled my ticket price. And the tip of me
based on the ticket price, not on what I ate while I was sitting there. And so I'd be thinking like
increased value, increased value. How can I increase my ticket? Right? So that's if I was
serving tables again. Now, obviously I'm not serving tables. I'm serving entrepreneurs and
a lot of them, but guess what? I'm thinking the same thing. It's the same stuff, right? I know
I get paid based on
a percentage of what our growth is like as the entrepreneur in the company the way that I make
my money I do have a salary because I think you legally have to do that however that works so
you can do all the w-2s and all that techie nerdy tax stuff but then um the rest of my payment comes
from a percentage of profit share right so the more profit the more I get to share so I'm always
thinking like well how can I increase my profit share how right? So the more profit, the more I get to share. So I'm always thinking like,
well, how can I increase my profit share?
How can I decrease costs?
How can I increase the ticket values?
How can I sell more expensive stuff?
How can I sell more things?
And that's what my mindset is
because I know that I get paid a percentage
of what I get people to consume.
So I need to get people to consume, right?
Same way you do if you're a restaurant.
And what's interesting is a lot of times,
speaking to you right now, probably,
um, most of us, we undervalue what we do, right? We start, we try to be like the discount
leader because, um, because that's what, that's what, uh, we're used to doing.
And so like a lot of times, like we, sometimes we put like our own pricing values on other people.
So like, Oh, I wouldn't pay a thousand dollars for this.
So you won't sell for a thousand.
It's like, no, you don't understand.
Like that's worth that to somebody else.
Like don't, don't try to discount your prices.
Um, and so a lot of times that's what we do is we try to discount our prices.
We try to like lower ticket.
And so like, we're trying to like go back to IHOP and sell, even though we know that
the money that we make as entrepreneurs is based on the ticket price, right?
So the bigger the ticket price, the bigger money you make.
I've said this before. I'll say it again.
Dan Kennedy once told me this.
He said that there's no strategic advantage
of being the second lowest priced leader
in your market, right?
So if you can't beat Walmart,
there's no strategic advantage of being like,
hey, Walmart's the cheapest, we're number two.
We're the second cheapest.
Because then you're like looking like an idiot.
There's no strategic advantage whatsoever.
But there is a huge strategic advantage
being like I am the most expensive guy on the market.
Okay, so if you can't be the lowest,
then be the most.
Don't be the dudes in the middle
because there's no like,
it just doesn't work that way.
So I want you guys to think about that.
Okay, because you as entrepreneurs,
you're just like a server.
You're serving customers,
you're serving audiences
and you get paid based on the ticket price
of what people are spending.
That's why funnels are important.
Okay?
If I just sold people my free book and that was it, guess what I would be right now?
I'd be broke.
Okay?
I did a Facebook Live yesterday showing the three funnels we had inside of our book launch.
Now, when all of a sudden our book launch is over, we did over $3 million in collected revenue.
Now, obviously, that wasn't net, but that was collected gross.
What was funny is because I look at all these people do these big, huge product launches, like two, three, $5,000 product launches,
and most of them are happy to make a million to $3 million. I'm like, we did the same thing,
and we were giving away a free book. Okay, how? It's because I'm just like the server, right?
I offered dessert first, and I had upsells. I offered a second meal. I did all these kind of
things because I'm trying to increase the ticket price. Because that's how I get fed as an entrepreneur.
Plus, it gives me the ability to serve that audience better.
The waiter that lets you order dessert ahead of time, so you still get it.
The server lets you order food and take it home.
He's serving you at a higher level.
That's why he gets paid more.
He knows how to increase the ticket price.
But he's able to, first off, make the restaurant more revenue.
But second off, he gives you a better experience.
You now have a great meal twice.
Your wife doesn't have to cook tomorrow, or whatever that might be, or maybe it's you
cooking, whatever.
But it all comes down to that.
So, anyway, that's the moral of today's story.
I hope that helps some of you guys, because I'm sure some of you guys are all freaking
out, trying to be the cheapest possible person, and it doesn't always work that way.
Obviously, you've got to look at what the market will bear
but it, like I said, it's way better typically
to be the most expensive than the cheapest.
So, there you go.
All right, I'm here, I'm getting my haircut,
I'm only four minutes late.
Hopefully she didn't cancel my appointment
because I gotta get rid of this thing
before I jump on the plane.
I'm gonna be super embarrassed.
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