The Russell Brunson Show - Not Enough Time To Build Your Business? Do This Now!

Episode Date: March 30, 2022

If you're struggling to find time amongst all the things to get your business out there, this little hack/shortcut should help get you to the finish line fast. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me...! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing That was quite the podcast episode! Russell really dove deep into the process of building a business while juggling various other responsibilities. He emphasized the importance of momentum over time management, suggesting that getting started and putting your work out there imperfectly is key to progress. Russell shared his own journey of creating products and the initial failures he experienced. He stressed the need to embrace imperfection and to start selling or publishing before things are perfect, as waiting for perfection can hinder progress. His advice to start talking about your project and making it public, even if it's scary, resonated with the idea of building momentum. By consistently putting your work out there and iterating based on feedback, you can accelerate your progress and eventually find success. It sounds like Russell's friend, who's struggling to find time for his passion project, could benefit from this perspective. Encouraging him to start sharing his work and seeking feedback could help him gain momentum and move forward with his business goals. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:31 Good morning, and welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I'm heading down to day number two of the writing retreat. And I wanted to talk to you guys today about a question that one of my friends sent me, which I think, you know, obviously if one person asks me, there's probably a hundred or a thousand of the same question. And the question was all around, like, how in the world do I find enough time to do my day job plus my hobbies, plus my family, plus my, my passion, and also start building this business at the same time. And so I want to address that, give you some thoughts and ideas. And so we will dive right in after we come back from the theme song. So the big question is this, how are entrepreneurs like us who didn't cheat and take on venture
Starting point is 00:01:12 capital, who are spending money from our own pockets, how do we market in a way that lets us get our products and our services and the things that we believe in out to the world and yet still remain profitable? That is the question and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Russell Brunson and welcome to Marketing Secrets. Alright everybody, I hope you guys are awesome. First off, we had such a good day yesterday at the writing retreat. And like I said, we're writing all of the copy for ClickFunnels 2.0 and the launch and the offer.
Starting point is 00:01:47 And like, oh, it was just so much fun to get a whole bunch of creatives and smart people in a room. And then for me to have a chance to like share the vision, like here's what's happening with ClickFunnels 2.0. And here's how the market's shifting. Here's where we're going. Here's like just giving them the brain dump.
Starting point is 00:02:00 And then we literally had everybody, all the writers, and there was like, I think five or six, maybe six of us, I think. Everyone went to a different room in the brain dump. And then we literally had everybody, all the writers. And there was like, I think five or six, six, maybe six of us. I think, um, everyone went to a different room in the, in the penthouse and closed the door. And we had like four hours, like, all right, write your, write your sales letter, write your BSL, write your script, write whatever it was. Right. So everybody went and they wrote their own thing, which was really cool. And then at the end of the day, we came back and had everybody sit up and like read it. And so they had to like stand in front of the group and perform it, which was, I think everyone was really nervous because it was like,
Starting point is 00:02:29 you're putting this thing out in front of it and you're reading it to everybody. Most of our writers, they write really well, but they don't normally present in front of a group. And it was so much fun, first off, to hear them each present their own scripts. It was fascinating and it was fun to see their personality and the different angles.
Starting point is 00:02:47 And it was cool. Everybody had their own angle. Like it was fascinating and it was fun to see their personality and, and the different angles. And, and it was cool. Like everybody had like their own angle on how they presented it and like the, the hook and the story and all that kind of stuff. But then like, it was interesting because everybody's scripts kind of like bumped into each other in the middle. Like we all use very similar analogies or we all use different things that, it was just really fascinating. Like the cross sections of where things lined up. And so when it was done, it was like, okay, these are all amazing. Now what do we do? And, uh, and then what was cool is we took like, like there was one, there's one script that I think was my favorite from like the video standpoint. So we took that, my headline, I, well, I was very proud of my headline. So I, maybe I, I bolded those every, actually I was the only one that wrote a headline if I'm honest. So
Starting point is 00:03:20 we use my headline, that VSL script, and then, and then, uh, took parts of like my, the way I did the call to action and the offer and stuff like that. I put that in there. And so I put all in the one huge doc and then I went through and I went through everybody else's scripts and I found like the things they had said and talked about are like different chunks. Like, Oh, I loved how so-and-so did this part. I love how so-and-so explained this. And then I went in the Google doc and I highlighted where those parts would fit in. I kind of made, I kind of like highlighted and made a comment. I said, okay, let's see if we can weave this part of the storyline from so-and-so's script into it here.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And then so-and-so's thing into here and kind of did that throughout the entire thing. And now we've got one kind of baseline script that we're going to be working off of. And so today, the writers are going to go deep on those and kind of try to like do another pass and polish it up and clean it up and figure out more ways and get it better and better which is gonna be really cool and then some of the other scripts that we weren't able to use as the core video or vsl they're still really good and so we're gonna um have some of the writers work on taking those and developing them into actual ads and and other things we can use them for ads email sequences etc so anyway it was a really fun day yesterday i really enjoyed it and i'm definitely gonna have to do it again so uh the way home, as I was driving back, one of my buddies messaged me.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And he's someone who's awesome. I have so much respect for him. He is an amazing father. He's got his day job, which is consuming. And a lot of people, when they get in this business, they just will ignore their job to try to do their side hustle. This guy's got enough integrity. He works hard at his job, and he's focused there. Then he gets done. He also is a wrestling coach, so he's coaching wrestling.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Then after that, he's being a husband and a father. At the same time, he's trying to build this thing. He's passionate about it. He spent the last couple years working on it. He's been through OFA a couple times. He's been to Funnel Hacking Live. He's like, so he's, he's in it. Right. Just like all of you guys, like he's in it. He sees the dreams, he's the vision. He's trying to create something amazing for his family. And so, um, but at the same time, he hasn't like, he hasn't gone live yet and he hasn't launched, he hasn't started
Starting point is 00:05:20 selling anything yet. And he's, and he's just like trying to figure out how in the world do I find the time between all the things I'm doing to be able to dedicate the time. And as you guys know, the first time you jump into this business, it's not just like, it's not like something simple, where like, Oh, I'm going to learn how to flip hamburgers and do it. Right. Like there's so many things, so many skillsets. Like you have to learn first off, like just the strategy of how this even works. Right. That's number one. Then you got like, now I know the strategy. Now I got to figure out like, how do I create a product? So you have the whole, like you have to develop a product, which for a lot of people, that's a whole brand new thing, right? Like how do I write a book or
Starting point is 00:05:50 how do I create a video? How do I make a course? And then after you rewrite it, well, how do I edit? How do I make a PDF? How do I make a video? Like, like there's, you know, all the skill sets involved in just the product creation. Like there's tons, right? Then the product's done. Then it's like, now I got to figure out how to sell it. And like, how do I put it in a member's area? And now I have it, you know, after it's there, I have a tangible thing. But now I got to figure out the words. Like, what's the copy? And then what's the funnel?
Starting point is 00:06:11 What's the upsells, the downsells? And how do I position? And I need graphic design. Like, the first time you play this game, there's a lot of pieces, right? And it takes time. It takes energy. It takes money. It takes all the different things.
Starting point is 00:06:24 And so as I say that, first off, for anyone who hasn't had success yet, I'm sure you're thinking like, whoa, what if it doesn't work? That's a lot of work. And it is a lot of work up front. But after you've figured out, like, and after you get it done, then it becomes easier and easier. In fact, it's interesting because a lot of you guys know, I've heard, told my potato gun story a million times, but that wasn't actually the first product I created.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I created some other ones first. Um, and the other ones took the longest, but they took, I made the least amount of money on them, but it was my first idea. And I, same thing. I had to go learn all these things now. And I'm also going to tell you guys not to, not to be that annoying guy, but like, it was actually harder for me back then because we didn't have click funnels. Like I was also trying to figure out how do you buy a domain name? And then how do you hook the domain name to a server? And then how do you even buy a server? And then after you have a server, how do you FTP? And then after you FTP, how do you, like,
Starting point is 00:07:12 how do you, you know, get it to show up? And then I'd figure out how to, like, how to edit a webpage and front page. And then we had to, like, now you have that, like, how do you connect it to a shopping cart? And, like, it used to be even harder. So I'm just saying that, but I was lucky. I was able to do it in a time when I didn't have all the other responsibilities.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I was wrestling and I was married, but we didn't have any kids. I didn't have a job. So I was able to, I had time to be able to figure those things out. But it was a lot harder back then. Nowadays with ClickFunnels, we've taken so much of those, like the annoying things off your plate so you can move things faster, but you still have to figure out all the rest of the things, right? And so, um, Oh, Tesla, if you auto drive, it's really cool. But if you, um, don't pay attention to it, then it cancels auto drive. So I just got kicked off auto
Starting point is 00:07:55 drive. So I have to hold my steering wheel for the rest of the drive to the, to the riding retreat. Anyway, I apologize. This is ADD Russell jumping out for a second. Okay. So like I was saying, I'm trying to memorize that. So what I was saying is like the very first product I built was the hardest because I had to learn all those things. Like it took me so long to figure out this stuff and then getting copy written. And I remember I hired someone to write copy because I didn't know how to write copy. And like I paid him like 500 bucks, which was a ton of money for me back then. And the copy came back and it sucked. And I didn't, how to write copy. And like, I paid him like 500 bucks, which was a ton of money for me back then. And the copy came back and it sucked. And I didn't, I knew it sucked, but I didn't know how to fix it.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I'm like, ah, and I was, it was just thing after thing after thing. And then, you know, I spent all the time, the energy, the effort. And then like, I finally launched it and guess what happened? Nothing. Nobody came and saw it. I was like, oh man, I put in like a year's worth of work and nobody gave me any money. Like, um, and then I, and then, you know, I kept trying and then trying, then you figure out the next step, which is like, now how do you sell it? How do you drive traffic?
Starting point is 00:08:49 How do you get eyeballs? I spent the next few months trying to figure that out. And I made a couple of sales and when all of a sudden done after the first year, year and a half, almost two, actually 18 months for me, first 18 months is when I started making sales and you know, and, but it wasn't like, it wasn't good money. It was like, Oh, I made the product. I was, I was, I'd created, I was selling for $67. I made a sale and I was like, I made 67 bucks.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I'm like 18 months in $67. Like if you do the math on that, it was like a penny an hour or less. Right. And I'm like, this is horrible. But what I didn't realize at the time, looking back now, is that when it was like, after I'd done it all and I launched that, it wasn't making that much money and it wasn't the best market, but I had learned all the skill sets I needed to do. Right?
Starting point is 00:09:33 And so after I knew it, then I was like, oh, well, I'm going to do this potato gun thing. And like that went fast because I knew, all right, I just need a product. I need a videotape. I got to edit it. I got to put up a sales page. I knew the things. And so that one, instead of taking me 18 months to do, I did that next one in a month. Right. And the cool thing is I had met people along the way. Like I met someone who did graphic design. I met someone who could write copy.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I met, I met all these different people. And so the second time I didn't have to go find all these people again, I was able to go faster. Right. Launched Potato Gun. I made a little bit of money, but not, not a ton. And I was like, okay, what else can I do? And I had another idea for a thing called Article Spider. So I created that. And that one went from, you know, 30 days, got that done in like, I don't know, 21 days, right? Three weeks, I got it done. And then that one did a little bit better. And then I had an idea for this thing called forum fortunes. And these are all these, these are all the products in the, in the cemetery of Russell ideas. And that one, um, I found someone to create the product and that product got done in, in like five or six
Starting point is 00:10:23 days. Um, at that time I had some momentum happening. I'd sold a couple other things. So now I had a list of a couple hundred people. And so I remember I had that product done. I knew the designer, I knew the copywriter and boom, boom, everything got done really, really fast. I sent an email to my little list. And I remember to this day, I had my very first thousand dollar day and I was like, I had a thousand dollar day. This is insane. And then I was like, wait, now what's the next idea? And I kept developing idea after idea after idea. And we got better and better and faster and faster. And the momentum caused and created more momentum, right? Because after I success with the first one, the next one, I had a customer list. The next one got a little easier and it got a little easier
Starting point is 00:10:55 and got a little easier. And nowadays, I mean, I've got an amazing team of people, so we can pump out things very, very quickly. We've got a list. We got it. You know, like it gets easier and easier along the way. The first one is always always the hardest and so one of the things i found is that for a lot of people because the first one's so hard they're putting the most time energy because they're nervous like what if it fails what if it you know what i mean and like and that you get into this like perfectionist syndrome because it's like man i spent 18 months of my life on this thing or two years of my life on it if i don't do right, then I'm gonna feel like a failure. Like I've been telling my friends and my family
Starting point is 00:11:28 and all these people, this is gonna be successful. And if I do it and it launches and it's not successful, like, oh, like what are they gonna say? Right? And then, and that becomes the real fear. And then it causes perfectionism. They start focusing on like tweaking this and tweaking that and tweaking, tweaking, tweaking, tweaking,
Starting point is 00:11:41 because you don't want to mess it up because you spent so much time and energy. Because you're thinking, man, if I don't get a big return on this, I only made a penny an hour and I'm going to look like a failure or I'm going to look not successful or it's going to be a status decrease for you. Okay. And so that's totally understandable. Like I, I understand that. I relate to that. Like I remember feeling that. Um, and so I want to, and so what happens is again, we get into this thing where we're trying to make it perfect. And that, that process of trying to make it perfect takes away more time.
Starting point is 00:12:15 And every waking second, all the energy goes into making it better and better and better as opposed to getting it out there. Right? And that is the, that is the lesson I want to share is that the way you, you find the time is not so much like you need more time. We all have the same amount of time, right? Right now, I'm in the middle of launching four supplement companies. I'm writing a new book. We're launching ClickFunnels 2.0. I'm launching two and potentially three other brands while running ClickFunnels, Magnetic Marketing, and all these things.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Plus, I'm opening up coaching. There's all the things, right? We all have the same amount of time. So it's not time, it's momentum. Okay. What I mean by that is, is the first time you do is taking 18 months. Second time takes 30 days. Third time takes 21 days, fourth time takes.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And so it's because we get a momentum. And so the biggest problem is until your first one's done, you're not a momentum. You're sitting there in a spot working on getting a perfect and you're stressing about that and you're worrying about that and things like that. And what I would recommend is we have to get a momentum as quick as possible. So what does that mean? Number one, it means we have to get out of the creative zone and into the selling zone as quick as possible before it's even finished.
Starting point is 00:13:18 In fact, most people I recommend before you launch your product, we need to start talking about it today. You need to start publishing like instantly. Like the second you're like, I'm going to build a product on whatever. It's like, I need to start talking about it today. You need to start publishing instantly. The second you're like, I'm gonna build a product on whatever, it's like, okay, I need to get a momentum quickly. So the way to do that is you gotta start publishing.
Starting point is 00:13:32 So it's picking, either you're gonna do a podcast or a blog or a Facebook Live or just a post on your personal Facebook or something, but something that puts you into momentum, right? Puts you into creation, puts you into something happening. So it's saying, okay, as of today, and so I'm telling you all, everyone who's listening to this, like this starts today, not tomorrow. So today you got to pick the platform where you're publishing at and do the one that's going to be the easiest. Cause if it's going to be hard, you're not going to do it. So
Starting point is 00:13:54 if it's like the easiest thing is I've got a Facebook profile, therefore I will go there. Easiest thing is I've got Instagram. Cool. Like it doesn't matter. I don't care if you have zero followers or whatever. It doesn't matter at this point. It's just starting. So going and doing a Facebook live and saying, Hey, or doing a podcast and be like, Hey, I'm working on this project. I'm writing a book. I'm creating a course about blah. I'm going to document my journey here and then just start talking about it and start talking about it. Start talking about it. Cause as soon as you start talking about it, now you're in momentum, right? And now you have a chance to put these ideas out there and the thought out there and like it gets you in the crazy, the
Starting point is 00:14:22 creative mode and it takes away the fear of like, what if I put something out there and like it gets you in the creation the creative mode and it takes away the fear of like what if i put something out there and it fails because typically most things we put out there initially will fail okay the first time i talked about funnels it failed it failed it failed for years it failed literally for decades before anybody caught on but it's getting into momentum okay so that's the first thing number two is like just starting to sell something like putting it out there today before it's done like not waiting for it to be perfect but like starting to sell something, like putting it out there today before it's done, like not waiting for it to be perfect, but like starting to post something out there. So again, if you just randomly post like, Hey, I have this new product I'm creating. I didn't want to buy it. It's going to be a little hard, but if you start publishing it every day for the next two weeks, you're publishing something like, Hey, I'm working on this thing. Um, I'm working, you know, and you,
Starting point is 00:15:00 and you talk about a technique or a tactic or something you're doing. And then you talk about the next day and the next day and for two weeks on your personal Facebook profile or wherever you have the ability to publish anything, you're talking about this thing. Now, after two weeks, it's easy to come back and say, hey, I'm working on this project. If anyone's interested, let me know. In the future, I'm gonna be selling this for blah,
Starting point is 00:15:19 but I need some case studies and some things. Anyone who wants it for the huge discount, let me know, and you can go through this process with me. I'll give you the course, plus you can do one-on-one calls with me. I just want to, I'm going to get some success stories. And boom, that gets you into momentum. You can even get away for free at first.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Like, hey, I'm looking for some beta people. I'm looking for five people who can go through this. This process, this program, give me feedback. But you have to actually implement it if you want me to give it to you, right? And now you're in momentum. Now someone's going through the course. Now they're looking at it.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Now they're giving you feedback. Now you can make tweaks and changes. But now you're in momentum. Now someone's going through the course. Now they're looking at it. Now they're giving you feedback. Now you can make tweaks and changes, but now you're, you're not sitting back in the creative mode, waiting and perfecting and, and worrying about that. You're putting it out there and you're moving forward imperfectly. Um, so I don't think for most of us that the, the real problem is not enough time. Like we have enough time. It's just, we're spending the time on trying to make the project perfect as opposed to, um, imperfectly throwing it out there and trying to get it working. Like, like, like testing on people, trying it, selling it, getting feedback, getting
Starting point is 00:16:14 ideas, getting like making it public. Um, so many of us who are creators, we create in private and then whatever we're, we're selling, we, we post it publicly, right? Ryan Holiday talked about it in his book, Perennial Seller. He talked about this is the problem with, or not the problem, but the conundrum with all authors, right? Like you spend a year of your life writing this book in private and then the fear is like,
Starting point is 00:16:38 what if I put it public and they reject it? And so the default, what you want to do is you want to keep editing, keep correcting, keep, you know, make it because it's like it's less painful than putting it out there. Right. But putting it out there is how now you get the feedback. You find out what works, what doesn't work. You get the changes.
Starting point is 00:16:52 You get the tweaks. And like that's now that's when the business actually begins. Now you're in momentum. And now the next variation, the next version goes from 18 months to 30 days to 40 days. And I would even assume like the first product I'm putting out is going to fail. Therefore, I need to put out quickly So I know what the audience wants. So I can make version number two and version number three, because now that you know how to do it, you can start doing them faster and faster and faster, right? It's speeding up
Starting point is 00:17:12 the process, but you don't know that until you put it out there. Okay. How many guys remember zip brander? No one does. It was my first product. I sold a dozen of them and then that was it. How many guys remember article spider? No one. How many guys remember foreign fortunes? No one, right? This is the graveyard of offers I had to do out there. But if I would have banked everything, like, you know, um, foreign fortunes has to be the thing that works. I would still be, I would still be working on it right now. Right? I couldn't get to click funnels or.com secrets or any of my projects if I didn't put these elements out there quickly. And so that's the biggest thing. Some of you guys have heard me talk about
Starting point is 00:17:47 one of my favorite videos on all of YouTube. It's by Jack Dorsey, the guy who started Patreon. It's called Work to Publish. Go to YouTube and Google. Go to YouTube and type in the word Work to Publish. You'll see the video. And it's all about this. It's like we can't pick what we're famous for.
Starting point is 00:18:04 We only get to pick, like we're only, we're famous for what the market decides, it wants from us. And so our job is to go out there and to publish as much as we can, putting as many things out there in the top of the funnel as possible. But if we spend 18 months, two years, three years trying to publish one thing, it's, you know, it's like spending the entire game trying to make
Starting point is 00:18:21 one perfect shot in basketball, like it's not gonna work. Like you gotta take a bunch of shots. Same thing in wrestling. If I just try to like, I'm just going to get one shot. I'm going to wait until it's perfect and shoot it. You're not going to win the match. You got to be out there doing it, doing it, doing it. You're putting in shot after shot after shot, opening up, making situations, getting things
Starting point is 00:18:36 out there to be able to create opportunities for yourself. It's the same thing in sports, same thing in business, same thing in publishing. And so anyway, that's some of my feedback. I hope that's helpful for everybody who's listening, especially my friend who I think is amazing and is doing a great job. It's just, we need to get him and all of you guys out there starting the process,
Starting point is 00:18:55 start publishing, start talking about the thing, making it public, as scary as it is. And right now it's just putting it out there, talking about it. And people are gonna tease you. People tease me, I'm like, I'm gonna write a book. They're like, okay, you're gonna write a book? Like you barely to tease you. People tease me. I'm like, I'm gonna write a book. They're like, okay, you're going to write a book? Like you barely graduated high school.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I'm like, I know, but I'm gonna write a book. Like on what? I'm like marketing. And that was way before I ever wrote a book. And now, hey, you know, 15 years later, people read my book. But it's because I put it out there. I started talking about it and started moving and getting myself in momentum. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I hope this helps. I appreciate you all for listening. And if you enjoyed this or got anything, please share with somebody else. If your spouse is the one who's struggling, make them listen to this a hundred times, then go to YouTube, type in work to publish, watch that video, and then start publishing. Let's go. Thanks, everybody. I'll talk to you soon.
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