The Russell Brunson Show - Showmanship in Business: The Lost Book That Changed How I Launch Everything | #Marketing - Ep. 55

Episode Date: July 23, 2025

In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I dive into one of my favorite lost books of marketing: Showmanship in Business by Kenneth Goode and Zenon Kaufman. It’s out of print, almost impossible ...to find, and yet it’s filled with some of the most powerful principles I’ve ever studied when it comes to getting attention and making your message stick. This book was endorsed by Dale Carnegie and breaks down how to turn your product, offer, or brand into something truly memorable. I walk through the four pillars the authors teach, and how I’ve used these exact ideas in my own business to boost show-up rates, get people to share what I’m doing, and create real moments that matter. Key Highlights: The four pillars of business showmanship: Attract, Emphasize, Emotionalize, and Create Action How Tim Shields created theatrical experiences to sell photography training online The story of my “Dan Kennedy pilgrimage” and why it changed everything for one of our webinars Why a good message alone isn’t enough… You need a performance around it How adding intention and drama can 10x the impact of your marketing, even without a big budget This book is a reminder that people don’t just buy offers, they buy experiences. The best marketers aren’t just teachers… They're performers. And when you wrap your content in a little showmanship, everything changes. If you’ve ever felt like your message is getting lost in the noise, this episode will show you how to make it unforgettable. Get Russell's book notes here: ⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Russell Brunson Show. Welcome to The Vault. Today I've got another out-of-print book on advertising and selling that is going to change everything for you. So this book is a new one of my collections called Showmanship in Business. I got this book because we were focusing on like doing what we call dramatic demonstrations. Maybe someone back when they wrote a book about this and I found this book. I'm like, this is the book. I got a screaming deal on this book.
Starting point is 00:00:25 And some of you guys may think I'm crazy to spend $500 on a book. But this one costs $500. And he gets first edition. One of the cool things about this book, a lot of people probably don't know, is Dale Carnegie, who wrote first edition of How to Win Friends and Influence People. Dale Carnegie actually talked specifically about this book. I pulled out the quote today. He said, this is the day of dramatization.
Starting point is 00:00:41 You have to use showmanship. And then he said, read Showmanship in Business by Kenneth Gude and Zen Kaufman. It's an exciting panorama of how showmen are ringing the cash register. And he goes on and talk about some of the case day. So in How to Win Friends and Influence People, he's talking about this book. Yet this book is out of print. It's out of publish. You can't find it.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Not even on Amazon. We tried to buy one today. is not there. So that's what showmanship in businesses. It's all about how to add that extra flare in your business to get people to notice you to see what you're doing. You know, front cover here's got this dog on a parade, just an example of showmanship. So that's what the book's all about. I don't remember the story because again, it wasn't something that people were talking about. Whenever I'm deep diving into a topic or something that I'm geeking out and I'm trying to find the other source material for me to learn from, right? We have a framework called
Starting point is 00:01:20 the linchpin that we teach all of our people inside of click funnels. The linchpin, one of the parts of the framework is we have people do what we call dramatic demonstrations. So dramatic demonstration, it could be a webinar or a, you know, challenge or it could be, there's a lot of ways to create dramatic demonstrations. And so I was trying to find old school examples of this. In fact, Steve Larson and I are writing a book right now called dramatic demonstrations. And we pull a bunch of examples from other people from back in the early 1900s, late 1800s who were doing these big dramatic demonstrations, right? You think about PT Barter, who's the greatest showman, right? And so I had those books,
Starting point is 00:01:46 I was just trying to find some other related. I'm like, there's got to be some more things to look at there. So I'm always looking for old books. I was searching for things. And somewhere in my searches, this one showed up and just show my shipping business. I was like, just the essence of the title was like, yes. That's what dramatic demonstrations are, right? Everyone out there is running an ad to a landing page and whatever. But it's like if you want to get people's attention today, you have to be different, right? The thing that makes you stand out.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Again, in my world is creating a dramatic demonstration or adding showmanship into your business. That's how you stick out. That's how you stay relevant for a long, long time? People ask me a lot, like, Russell, how are you still doing this business 25 years later? And the reason is because I add the stuff into our business. Like, nothing that we're doing is just normal, right? You notice we add showmanship into everything we do. I saw the title.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I was like, yes, I need that book, bought it. And then I found out later, again, it was literally Dale Carnegie, you wrote about it in How to Win Friends and Influence People. So it's now one of my favorite books in my library. The person that kind of got me thinking about dramatic demonstrations initially was a guy named Tim Shields. He's one of my inner circle and my Atlas members and he's in the photography business, right? Which if you think about people teaching photographers how to build a business, you don't think
Starting point is 00:02:39 there's a lot of money in that, right? It's not going to be like this huge thing. But he's got a $10 million year business teaching this. And so I started watching what he was doing and he made this documentary sent to me. It's like a two-minute documentary and a little trailer. What he did is he was like showing how he doesn't just do a webinar on how to do photography. Like he creates a dramatic demonstration. So what he did is he went to the side of the grand campaign.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Like him and his wife, they hiked out there. They promoted this whole audience like, we're going to the side of the Grand Canyon. We're bringing in Starlink. We're going to do this webinar from the side of the Grand Canyon. And all the Bell's drama and everything is they got there. And they finally set it up. And they're in the most beautiful place in the world. And they start the camera and they do this whole webinar from the side of the Grand Canyon.
Starting point is 00:03:13 And I watched that whole thing. And then the next month he did another one where he went to Banff, Canada, on this frozen lake. And he goes out in the middle of this lake. And he does a webinar there. And he's done like eight or nine of these in a row back to back. And he sent me just some footage of that. And he's like, Russell, this is what most people are missing. like they're behind their desk doing a webinar.
Starting point is 00:03:29 And he's like, I don't do webinars. I do dramatic demonstrations. After you shared that with me, he's like, you know what you should do, Russell? I'm like, what? He's like, you bought Dan Kennedy's business. He's your mentor. You always tell us these stories about the pilgrimage people go to Dan Kennedy. You go to his basement.
Starting point is 00:03:40 And in the basement, there's no internet. And in all these things, he's like, we all hear you tell these stories. And we assume it's, you know, $100,000 to hire Dan to, like, have a day with him to see that. He's like, you should take the entrepreneur role. Take your world to take your world to Dan Kennedy's basement. He's like, in your business, you're doing these dramatic demonstrations. You've got to take your audience in places they wouldn't go on their own, right?
Starting point is 00:03:57 They're not going to go to the side of the Grand Canyon. They're not going to go to Banff, Canada, on a frozen lake. My people are not going to go to Dan Kennedy's basement, but they want that. They hear about it, right? And so we made this whole campaign, this whole dramatic demonstration where I basically said, we're going to Dan Kennedy's basement. Like, we're bringing Starlink in. I'm going to show you guys behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I'm going to show you that there's literally, like, his computer's not plugged in. I'm going to show you the fax machine. The nerds in the marketing world with me were freaking out. We got like 15, 16,000 people to register to go to Dan Kennedy's basement with me, right? And then, you know, we did this whole pilgrimage. As we were going to Cleveland, Ohio, we stayed at the La Quinta because it's like the worst hotel. Because it's like the worst hotel. But it's part of the experience.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Like everyone who's ever been to Dan's house always talked about the La Quinta and how it's the worst hotel. Like when we are pulling up to the hotel and we're like Instagram and live, and she comes out of the lobby. And she comes out and she's like, look at us as we're walking. She's like, this is the worst hotel I've ever been to. Don't go in there. I was like, yes, like this is like we're getting the whole experience. Next day we go to Dan Kenney's house, we bring in Starlink and we stream internet down. And what's crazy is a typical webinar, you might get 15 to 20, maybe 25% of people to show up
Starting point is 00:04:56 because that's what typical showup rates are on a webinar. Because it was a dramatic demonstration because we added the showmanship into this campaign and this marketing. We had like 80% of people who showed up for the webinar. People sat there. Dan Kennedy, we did a tour in his basement. He walked around, showed the bathroom, showed everything for like an hour and a half before we even got to any kind of sales pitch.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And nobody left. They were like enthralled. And so that's what adding showmanship in your businesses, right? It's like everyone's doing a webinar. How do I take it to the side of the Grand Canyon? How do I take my people to Dan Kennedy's basement? For you, who are your people? Like, how do you add showmanship where it's like you're going to give them access
Starting point is 00:05:28 something they don't have anywhere else? Like, those are some of the ways that we're using showmanship and creating dramatic demonstrations inside of our business. Now, dramatic demonstrations, they don't always have to be huge as well. Like last year for my birthday, the opportunity is there's something happening. I can talk about. I can make a dramatic demonstration. It's like, we're having Russell's birthday.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Come and register for my birthday party. We have all these speakers and come, everyone's going to talk. And it can be as simple or something like that as well. So the key is not so much like there has to be spending tons of money. you're leaving your location, but it's like it's creating something that's going to grab someone's attention and give you the ability to share and then to promote the thing you have. In the showmanship and business book, there's actually a four-part framework that every business who's successfully applying showsmanship follows these four principles.
Starting point is 00:06:06 And so I'm going to write these out for you, kind of talk about and share some stories with each one. So the first step to have showmanship in your business is to attract. And this one is something in our world, a lot of times online we talk about like creating a hook. Something that's going to grab some of his attention is the first key, right? How do you attract somebody's attention? So I always think about this, like if I was to go to the food court at the mall, and there's like 400 people and they're eating and talking, if I was to stand up on a chair and yell something out, would it grab their attention?
Starting point is 00:06:32 Would you ever stop and look at me or would they be intrigued or would they kind of like, and they walk away? So I always think about that. I got to say something that's going to get their attention, make him stop talking like, oh, what's happening over here? That's why I'm always thinking through. In the book, he shares an example, because again, this book was written in 1936. And so this is before, you know, obviously internet and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:06:48 But one of the examples they talked about the attraction is that there was a movie theater and they had all this candy at the movie theater. And there's a bunch of candy that nobody was buying. It just kind of, you know, it sat there for week after week and they were trying to figure, how do we attract attention to this? And so what they did is they got this little spot, like almost like a flashlight,
Starting point is 00:07:01 and they shown it on the candy that nobody was buying. And because it looked like it was an attraction, like people saw that. Like, there's something like, why do they light in this up? There's got to be something here that candy that's selling out most and it became the highest selling candy
Starting point is 00:07:11 because they added some attraction to it. They added a light to it, which is kind of a simple example. So it's like finding something unique and like shining light on it. It's like, again, my birthday promotion, It's my birthday, shining a light on it. I'm trying to attract people's attention to it.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I'm going to Dan Kennedy's house, shining a light on it, right? So that's the first step in the framework. Number two is to emphasize. So after you got their attention, you have to emphasize either the problem or the thing's happening so people see it so they're going to remember it, right? Like that's what showmanship is an extra level. Not just tracking their attention, they emphasize it. In the book, the example he shares is really cool.
Starting point is 00:07:39 This guy named Walter Chrysler, you may have heard of him. You know, it's a company called Chrysler. One of the stunts he did to emphasize after got people's attention, he actually took his cars and he had people come and he brought elephants out. And he had these elephants come and actually step on top of the car. Now, if you see that kind of dramatic demonstration, you see somebody emphasizing something, you see someone with elephants on the car, that's one of the things you're never going to forget, right? Like after that happens, it's like, okay, I'm never going to forget this thing.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I think about this, some of the best that I've ever seen doing this, right? Like, I love watching and studying infomercials. But if you remember Billy Mays back in the day, Billy Mays was the guy did OxyClean and, you know, most of the great infomercials of the 90s and 2000s, he was the best of this, right? He'd grab your attention really quick at the very beginning of the infomercial. And then he'd do a demo, right? I always do something where it's like, he'd have your white shirt and put it through grass where it's all green and nasty. And he's like, gets an oxyclean.
Starting point is 00:08:22 In five seconds, it's like, oh, it's oxyclean. Now it's done. He like emphasizes the problem and then the react, like how the thing solves it, right? Because you could be like, oh, yeah, these cars are really sturdy, right? Or you can have an elephant stand on the car. That's the difference, right? Oh, yeah, this will get stains out of your clothes. Or let me put a stain on it and let me show you.
Starting point is 00:08:36 You're emphasizing it to make it real inside their mind. That's showmanship. That's the next level beyond just marketing or just advertising. Number three is emotionalized. In the book, he said, people don't buy facts. They buy feeling. And this is something that is very, very true. When I'm doing a webinar or a challenge or anything,
Starting point is 00:08:51 a lot of times we share the facts because we're speaking to people consciously and their logical minds like, oh, that makes a lot of sense. But the thing that gets people to buy and to move and take action is the emotion. Like, what do they feel about the thing? The more I study and the more I write about the subconscious mind, the more fascinating is because people don't do what they think about. They do what they do what they feel. Like if I feel like doing it, they're going to do it or they're not going to do it, right?
Starting point is 00:09:09 And so feeling is what you're trying to create. So I attract their attention, right? Emphasize the things. This thing gets burned and seared into your brain. And then I got to emotionalize it, right? So I'm bringing emotion to the table. You're telling stories. You're showing examples like you're showing why this should be emotional to them.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Emotion can be a lot of things. It can be sad. I've seen people who are really good to tell their story. They get emotional, right? Or there can be fear. They can be pain, right? I've seen people at Fondel Hacking Live Stage who use some of our best speakers, but they use anger to emotionalize thing.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Where I'm not really someone who comes in angry and hot. I come in very much more like visionary and trying to show, like cast a vision and show people what's possible, right? And that's how I emotionalize things. So there's different ways to do it based on your style. But adding that emotion is the next phase. And then number four, which is the last part of the framework here, is to create action, which for all of us, you know, it was like, called action, tell them to do something.
Starting point is 00:09:54 It says in the book, it says, all this leader means nothing unless you have action at the end. Doing a dramatic demonstration, showmanship, doing all these kind of things. You get their attention, you give them emotion, all the kind of stuff. If you don't have them to do something, there was all kind of for nothing. So that's the framework from the book is you're trying to figure out, like, for you specific, like, how could I create a dramatic demonstration? Those are the things you're thinking through. Okay, what could I do that's going to attract their attention?
Starting point is 00:10:12 Okay, if we get them, how do we emphasize this so that gets seared into their brain. And then what do I do to create the emotional experience with them? And then where do I take them to actually take action? And those are kind of how we use showmanship inside of our business today. One more thing we do is showmanship and business. And again, a lot times we think this is just if I'm selling an event or if I'm doing a course or whatever the thing might be. You can use this any part of your business. A couple years ago, we hired the Harmon brothers who do viral videos to make a video for us. And a lot of money to create the video. We're going to launch it on YouTube and drive ads to it. And then I was
Starting point is 00:10:38 like, we got to do something bigger. Like we need to make this dramatic demonstration. Like, how do we engage our audience, get people excited to make this more than just like us putting something out onto the internet, right? And so we created a whole campaign around. And what we did, we rented out the Boise State Football Stadium. We went and got as many high level influencers as possible to come to the stadium for this event. We hired Gary Vaynerchuk to come and be our keynote speaker. And then to top it all off, I was like, we need something that's really going to attract attention, emphasize what we're doing, emotionalize, and create action. We decided to do the largest bubble soccer game in the history of all time. And this was all
Starting point is 00:11:08 to launch a YouTube video, right? It wasn't just posting online and just hoping for the best and maybe it goes viral. It's like this brings people together and let's launch it together, making an experience and create a dramatic demonstration. And so it was cool because we had almost two different ways.
Starting point is 00:11:20 There was the internal people who came who had this experience and all of them promoted it out to their followings in their list which helped this video to go viral. But then externally our entire audience was watching as we were doing this. They had a chance to like see behind the scenes
Starting point is 00:11:31 of this glimpse of like, oh my gosh, like, you know, they couldn't be here with us but we're taking them on this journey, right? We're not just doing these things in a silo, but we're letting them kind of experience it with us. One of the things I remember, one of my mentors, John Allan this told me one
Starting point is 00:11:42 time he said that our job as entrepreneurs as advertisers and he said that he got this from a movie in the 80s was a rock star talking about this we said for entrepreneurs like our job is to live the life their audience wishes they could live right they're living vicariously through us and so we're putting this thing on but allowing our audience to watch it so they can vicariously live through it's like watch this video go viral like see Gary Vien's other people speaking and like we're sharing that experience with them and just it takes the showmanship to the next level where that story and that message just keeps resonating
Starting point is 00:12:08 and growing again that was just to launch a YouTube video so next time you're putting anything out there. If it could be as simple as a podcast, YouTube video, or as big as a product launch, it's like figuring out how do you add showmanship into your business to get people talking, get people remembering you, creating emotion, and getting people to take action. You want my notes from the showmanship and business book. I've got my notes. There's a link down below. We can go and get the notes for this entire book. Because right now, it's not possible to find online. This is the only copy I was able to find, not even on Amazon. Go through my notes so you get the highlights from everything. You get some of the coolest quotes,
Starting point is 00:12:36 examples and cases. These are tons of examples on all four of these things. Example after example after example, I think it's over a hundred different examples inside this book for these different points that you can read through. And hopefully, it's first some ideas on how you can use this inside of your business. I feel like nowadays people are lazy because we have Facebook and Instagram, Facebook out and think they're genius, right? Back then, like, I got like a PT Barnum is like, I think he was the frontrunner of all this showmanship. Like, imagine there's no TV, there's radio, but who knows, how do you get people to show up to a circus or to a museum or to whatever? Like, they had to become masters of showmanship.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And we've forgotten the art of this. If you go back and you study the art of it and you weave that into what we're doing now with the amplification we have of the internet, it changes the game for everybody. So it's interesting, the lost lessons, but what they had to do. I think about the plus, like what I got started 20 years ago, like it was before Facebook, before MySpace, like back when Friendster was the social network, I couldn't buy ads. So we had to do all sorts of weird stuff. Like we were creating, making up stuff to try to get people to like find us on the internet, right? Like, we were doing all sorts of crazy things back then that were just fascinating. But we had to. And now it's like everyone's defaulted to just the one thing.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I run some ads, you know, or whatever. It's like, no one even remembers like all the things we had to do to get attention back in the day. And so for us, business a lot of people ask why we're still around 20 years later it's like because I weave these elements into the campaigns right we're using the media to like amplify but we're still doing the things that got us attention back before we had the media before these guys had the internet they were doing this stuff to get attention and so you can learn so much for these things and apply them to your business today and it just changes everything

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