The Russell Brunson Show - Showmanship in Business: The Lost Book That Changed How I Launch Everything | #Marketing - Ep. 55
Episode Date: July 23, 2025In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I dive into one of my favorite lost books of marketing: Showmanship in Business by Kenneth Goode and Zenon Kaufman. It’s out of print, almost impossible ...to find, and yet it’s filled with some of the most powerful principles I’ve ever studied when it comes to getting attention and making your message stick. This book was endorsed by Dale Carnegie and breaks down how to turn your product, offer, or brand into something truly memorable. I walk through the four pillars the authors teach, and how I’ve used these exact ideas in my own business to boost show-up rates, get people to share what I’m doing, and create real moments that matter. Key Highlights: The four pillars of business showmanship: Attract, Emphasize, Emotionalize, and Create Action How Tim Shields created theatrical experiences to sell photography training online The story of my “Dan Kennedy pilgrimage” and why it changed everything for one of our webinars Why a good message alone isn’t enough… You need a performance around it How adding intention and drama can 10x the impact of your marketing, even without a big budget This book is a reminder that people don’t just buy offers, they buy experiences. The best marketers aren’t just teachers… They're performers. And when you wrap your content in a little showmanship, everything changes. If you’ve ever felt like your message is getting lost in the noise, this episode will show you how to make it unforgettable. Get Russell's book notes here: http://russellbrunson.com/notes https://sellingonline.com/podcast https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is the Russell Brunson Show.
Welcome to The Vault.
Today I've got another out-of-print book on advertising and selling that is going to change everything for you.
So this book is a new one of my collections called Showmanship in Business.
I got this book because we were focusing on like doing what we call dramatic demonstrations.
Maybe someone back when they wrote a book about this and I found this book.
I'm like, this is the book.
I got a screaming deal on this book.
And some of you guys may think I'm crazy to spend $500 on a book.
But this one costs $500.
And he gets first edition.
One of the cool things about this book, a lot of people probably don't know, is Dale Carnegie,
who wrote first edition of How to Win Friends and Influence People.
Dale Carnegie actually talked specifically about this book.
I pulled out the quote today.
He said, this is the day of dramatization.
You have to use showmanship.
And then he said, read Showmanship in Business by Kenneth Gude and Zen Kaufman.
It's an exciting panorama of how showmen are ringing the cash register.
And he goes on and talk about some of the case day.
So in How to Win Friends and Influence People, he's talking about this book.
Yet this book is out of print.
It's out of publish.
You can't find it.
Not even on Amazon.
We tried to buy one today.
is not there. So that's what showmanship in businesses. It's all about how to add that extra
flare in your business to get people to notice you to see what you're doing. You know, front
cover here's got this dog on a parade, just an example of showmanship. So that's what the book's
all about. I don't remember the story because again, it wasn't something that people were talking
about. Whenever I'm deep diving into a topic or something that I'm geeking out and I'm trying
to find the other source material for me to learn from, right? We have a framework called
the linchpin that we teach all of our people inside of click funnels. The linchpin, one of the
parts of the framework is we have people do what we call dramatic demonstrations. So
dramatic demonstration, it could be a webinar or a, you know,
challenge or it could be, there's a lot of ways to create dramatic demonstrations. And so I was
trying to find old school examples of this. In fact, Steve Larson and I are writing a book
right now called dramatic demonstrations. And we pull a bunch of examples from other people
from back in the early 1900s, late 1800s who were doing these big dramatic demonstrations, right?
You think about PT Barter, who's the greatest showman, right? And so I had those books,
I was just trying to find some other related. I'm like, there's got to be some more things
to look at there. So I'm always looking for old books. I was searching for things. And
somewhere in my searches, this one showed up and just show my shipping business. I was like,
just the essence of the title was like, yes. That's what dramatic demonstrations are, right?
Everyone out there is running an ad to a landing page and whatever.
But it's like if you want to get people's attention today,
you have to be different, right?
The thing that makes you stand out.
Again, in my world is creating a dramatic demonstration or adding showmanship into your business.
That's how you stick out.
That's how you stay relevant for a long, long time?
People ask me a lot, like, Russell, how are you still doing this business 25 years later?
And the reason is because I add the stuff into our business.
Like, nothing that we're doing is just normal, right?
You notice we add showmanship into everything we do.
I saw the title.
I was like, yes, I need that book, bought it.
And then I found out later, again, it was literally Dale Carnegie, you wrote about it
in How to Win Friends and Influence People.
So it's now one of my favorite books in my library.
The person that kind of got me thinking about dramatic demonstrations initially was a guy
named Tim Shields.
He's one of my inner circle and my Atlas members and he's in the photography business, right?
Which if you think about people teaching photographers how to build a business, you don't think
there's a lot of money in that, right?
It's not going to be like this huge thing.
But he's got a $10 million year business teaching this.
And so I started watching what he was doing and he made this documentary sent to me.
It's like a two-minute documentary and a little trailer.
What he did is he was like showing how he doesn't just do a webinar on how to do photography.
Like he creates a dramatic demonstration.
So what he did is he went to the side of the grand campaign.
Like him and his wife, they hiked out there.
They promoted this whole audience like, we're going to the side of the Grand Canyon.
We're bringing in Starlink.
We're going to do this webinar from the side of the Grand Canyon.
And all the Bell's drama and everything is they got there.
And they finally set it up.
And they're in the most beautiful place in the world.
And they start the camera and they do this whole webinar from the side of the Grand Canyon.
And I watched that whole thing.
And then the next month he did another one where he went to Banff, Canada, on this frozen lake.
And he goes out in the middle of this lake.
And he does a webinar there.
And he's done like eight or nine of these in a row back to back.
And he sent me just some footage of that.
And he's like, Russell, this is what most people are missing.
like they're behind their desk doing a webinar.
And he's like, I don't do webinars.
I do dramatic demonstrations.
After you shared that with me, he's like, you know what you should do, Russell?
I'm like, what?
He's like, you bought Dan Kennedy's business.
He's your mentor.
You always tell us these stories about the pilgrimage people go to Dan Kennedy.
You go to his basement.
And in the basement, there's no internet.
And in all these things, he's like, we all hear you tell these stories.
And we assume it's, you know, $100,000 to hire Dan to, like, have a day with
him to see that.
He's like, you should take the entrepreneur role.
Take your world to take your world to Dan Kennedy's basement.
He's like, in your business, you're doing these dramatic demonstrations.
You've got to take your audience in places they wouldn't go on their own, right?
They're not going to go to the side of the Grand Canyon.
They're not going to go to Banff, Canada, on a frozen lake.
My people are not going to go to Dan Kennedy's basement, but they want that.
They hear about it, right?
And so we made this whole campaign, this whole dramatic demonstration where I basically said,
we're going to Dan Kennedy's basement.
Like, we're bringing Starlink in.
I'm going to show you guys behind the scenes.
I'm going to show you that there's literally, like, his computer's not plugged in.
I'm going to show you the fax machine.
The nerds in the marketing world with me were freaking out.
We got like 15, 16,000 people to register to go to Dan Kennedy's basement with me, right?
And then, you know, we did this whole pilgrimage.
As we were going to Cleveland, Ohio, we stayed at the La Quinta because it's like the worst hotel.
Because it's like the worst hotel.
But it's part of the experience.
Like everyone who's ever been to Dan's house always talked about the La Quinta and how it's the worst hotel.
Like when we are pulling up to the hotel and we're like Instagram and live, and she comes out of the lobby.
And she comes out and she's like, look at us as we're walking.
She's like, this is the worst hotel I've ever been to.
Don't go in there.
I was like, yes, like this is like we're getting the whole experience.
Next day we go to Dan Kenney's house, we bring in Starlink and we stream internet down.
And what's crazy is a typical webinar, you might get 15 to 20, maybe 25% of people to show up
because that's what typical showup rates are on a webinar.
Because it was a dramatic demonstration because we added the showmanship into this campaign
and this marketing.
We had like 80% of people who showed up for the webinar.
People sat there.
Dan Kennedy, we did a tour in his basement.
He walked around, showed the bathroom, showed everything for like an hour and a half
before we even got to any kind of sales pitch.
And nobody left.
They were like enthralled.
And so that's what adding showmanship in your businesses, right?
It's like everyone's doing a webinar.
How do I take it to the side of the Grand Canyon?
How do I take my people to Dan Kennedy's basement?
For you, who are your people?
Like, how do you add showmanship where it's like you're going to give them access
something they don't have anywhere else?
Like, those are some of the ways that we're using showmanship
and creating dramatic demonstrations inside of our business.
Now, dramatic demonstrations, they don't always have to be huge as well.
Like last year for my birthday, the opportunity is there's something happening.
I can talk about.
I can make a dramatic demonstration.
It's like, we're having Russell's birthday.
Come and register for my birthday party.
We have all these speakers and come, everyone's going to talk.
And it can be as simple or something like that as well.
So the key is not so much like there has to be spending tons of money.
you're leaving your location, but it's like it's creating something that's going to grab
someone's attention and give you the ability to share and then to promote the thing you have.
In the showmanship and business book, there's actually a four-part framework that every business
who's successfully applying showsmanship follows these four principles.
And so I'm going to write these out for you, kind of talk about and share some stories with each one.
So the first step to have showmanship in your business is to attract.
And this one is something in our world, a lot of times online we talk about like creating a hook.
Something that's going to grab some of his attention is the first key, right?
How do you attract somebody's attention?
So I always think about this, like if I was to go to the food court at the mall, and
there's like 400 people and they're eating and talking, if I was to stand up on a chair and
yell something out, would it grab their attention?
Would you ever stop and look at me or would they be intrigued or would they kind of like,
and they walk away?
So I always think about that.
I got to say something that's going to get their attention, make him stop talking like,
oh, what's happening over here?
That's why I'm always thinking through.
In the book, he shares an example, because again, this book was written in 1936.
And so this is before, you know, obviously internet and stuff like that.
But one of the examples they talked about the attraction is that there was a movie theater
and they had all this candy at the movie theater.
And there's a bunch of candy that nobody was buying.
It just kind of, you know, it sat there for week after week
and they were trying to figure,
how do we attract attention to this?
And so what they did is they got this little spot,
like almost like a flashlight,
and they shown it on the candy that nobody was buying.
And because it looked like it was an attraction,
like people saw that.
Like, there's something like,
why do they light in this up?
There's got to be something here
that candy that's selling out most
and it became the highest selling candy
because they added some attraction to it.
They added a light to it,
which is kind of a simple example.
So it's like finding something unique
and like shining light on it.
It's like, again, my birthday promotion,
It's my birthday, shining a light on it.
I'm trying to attract people's attention to it.
I'm going to Dan Kennedy's house, shining a light on it, right?
So that's the first step in the framework.
Number two is to emphasize.
So after you got their attention, you have to emphasize either the problem or the thing's
happening so people see it so they're going to remember it, right?
Like that's what showmanship is an extra level.
Not just tracking their attention, they emphasize it.
In the book, the example he shares is really cool.
This guy named Walter Chrysler, you may have heard of him.
You know, it's a company called Chrysler.
One of the stunts he did to emphasize after got people's attention, he actually took his
cars and he had people come and he brought elephants out.
And he had these elephants come and actually step on top of the car.
Now, if you see that kind of dramatic demonstration, you see somebody emphasizing something,
you see someone with elephants on the car, that's one of the things you're never going to forget, right?
Like after that happens, it's like, okay, I'm never going to forget this thing.
I think about this, some of the best that I've ever seen doing this, right?
Like, I love watching and studying infomercials.
But if you remember Billy Mays back in the day, Billy Mays was the guy did OxyClean
and, you know, most of the great infomercials of the 90s and 2000s, he was the best of this, right?
He'd grab your attention really quick at the very beginning of the infomercial.
And then he'd do a demo, right?
I always do something where it's like, he'd have your white shirt and put it through grass where it's all green and nasty.
And he's like, gets an oxyclean.
In five seconds, it's like, oh, it's oxyclean.
Now it's done.
He like emphasizes the problem and then the react, like how the thing solves it, right?
Because you could be like, oh, yeah, these cars are really sturdy, right?
Or you can have an elephant stand on the car.
That's the difference, right?
Oh, yeah, this will get stains out of your clothes.
Or let me put a stain on it and let me show you.
You're emphasizing it to make it real inside their mind.
That's showmanship.
That's the next level beyond just marketing or just advertising.
Number three is emotionalized.
In the book, he said, people don't buy facts.
They buy feeling.
And this is something that is very, very true.
When I'm doing a webinar or a challenge or anything,
a lot of times we share the facts because we're speaking to people consciously
and their logical minds like, oh, that makes a lot of sense.
But the thing that gets people to buy and to move and take action is the emotion.
Like, what do they feel about the thing?
The more I study and the more I write about the subconscious mind,
the more fascinating is because people don't do what they think about.
They do what they do what they feel.
Like if I feel like doing it, they're going to do it or they're not going to do it, right?
And so feeling is what you're trying to create.
So I attract their attention, right?
Emphasize the things.
This thing gets burned and seared into your brain.
And then I got to emotionalize it, right?
So I'm bringing emotion to the table.
You're telling stories.
You're showing examples like you're showing why this should be emotional to them.
Emotion can be a lot of things.
It can be sad.
I've seen people who are really good to tell their story.
They get emotional, right?
Or there can be fear.
They can be pain, right?
I've seen people at Fondel Hacking Live Stage who use some of our best speakers,
but they use anger to emotionalize thing.
Where I'm not really someone who comes in angry and hot.
I come in very much more like visionary and trying to show, like cast a vision and show people
what's possible, right?
And that's how I emotionalize things.
So there's different ways to do it based on your style.
But adding that emotion is the next phase.
And then number four, which is the last part of the framework here, is to create action,
which for all of us, you know, it was like, called action, tell them to do something.
It says in the book, it says, all this leader means nothing unless you have action at the end.
Doing a dramatic demonstration, showmanship, doing all these kind of things.
You get their attention, you give them emotion, all the kind of stuff.
If you don't have them to do something, there was all kind of for nothing.
So that's the framework from the book is you're trying to figure out, like, for you specific,
like, how could I create a dramatic demonstration?
Those are the things you're thinking through.
Okay, what could I do that's going to attract their attention?
Okay, if we get them, how do we emphasize this so that gets seared into
their brain. And then what do I do to create the emotional experience with them? And then
where do I take them to actually take action? And those are kind of how we use showmanship
inside of our business today. One more thing we do is showmanship and business. And again, a lot
times we think this is just if I'm selling an event or if I'm doing a course or whatever the
thing might be. You can use this any part of your business. A couple years ago, we hired the
Harmon brothers who do viral videos to make a video for us. And a lot of money to create
the video. We're going to launch it on YouTube and drive ads to it. And then I was
like, we got to do something bigger. Like we need to make this dramatic demonstration. Like,
how do we engage our audience, get people excited to make this more than just like us putting
something out onto the internet, right? And so we created a whole campaign around. And what we did,
we rented out the Boise State Football Stadium. We went and got as many high level influencers
as possible to come to the stadium for this event. We hired Gary Vaynerchuk to come and be
our keynote speaker. And then to top it all off, I was like, we need something that's really
going to attract attention, emphasize what we're doing, emotionalize, and create action. We
decided to do the largest bubble soccer game in the history of all time. And this was all
to launch a YouTube video, right? It wasn't just posting online and just hoping for the best
and maybe it goes viral.
It's like this brings people together
and let's launch it together,
making an experience
and create a dramatic demonstration.
And so it was cool because we had
almost two different ways.
There was the internal people who came
who had this experience
and all of them promoted it out
to their followings in their list
which helped this video to go viral.
But then externally our entire audience
was watching as we were doing this.
They had a chance to like see behind the scenes
of this glimpse of like, oh my gosh,
like, you know, they couldn't be here with us
but we're taking them on this journey, right?
We're not just doing these things
in a silo, but we're letting them
kind of experience it with us.
One of the things I remember,
one of my mentors, John Allan this told me one
time he said that our job as entrepreneurs as advertisers and he said that he got
this from a movie in the 80s was a rock star talking about this we said for
entrepreneurs like our job is to live the life their audience wishes they
could live right they're living vicariously through us and so we're putting
this thing on but allowing our audience to watch it so they can vicariously live
through it's like watch this video go viral like see Gary Vien's other people
speaking and like we're sharing that experience with them and just it takes the
showmanship to the next level where that story and that message just keeps resonating
and growing again that was just to launch a YouTube video so next time you're
putting anything out there. If it could be as simple as a podcast, YouTube video, or as big as a
product launch, it's like figuring out how do you add showmanship into your business
to get people talking, get people remembering you, creating emotion, and getting people to take
action. You want my notes from the showmanship and business book. I've got my notes. There's a link
down below. We can go and get the notes for this entire book. Because right now, it's not
possible to find online. This is the only copy I was able to find, not even on Amazon. Go through
my notes so you get the highlights from everything. You get some of the coolest quotes,
examples and cases. These are tons of examples on all four of these things. Example after
example after example, I think it's over a hundred different examples inside this book
for these different points that you can read through. And hopefully, it's first some ideas
on how you can use this inside of your business. I feel like nowadays people are lazy
because we have Facebook and Instagram, Facebook out and think they're genius, right? Back then,
like, I got like a PT Barnum is like, I think he was the frontrunner of all this showmanship.
Like, imagine there's no TV, there's radio, but who knows, how do you get people to show up
to a circus or to a museum or to whatever? Like, they had to become masters of showmanship.
And we've forgotten the art of this. If you go back and you study the art of it and you weave that
into what we're doing now with the amplification we have of the internet, it changes the game
for everybody. So it's interesting, the lost lessons, but what they had to do. I think about
the plus, like what I got started 20 years ago, like it was before Facebook, before MySpace,
like back when Friendster was the social network, I couldn't buy ads. So we had to do all sorts
of weird stuff. Like we were creating, making up stuff to try to get people to like find us on
the internet, right? Like, we were doing all sorts of crazy things back then that were just
fascinating. But we had to. And now it's like everyone's defaulted to just the one thing.
I run some ads, you know, or whatever. It's like, no one even remembers like all the things
we had to do to get attention back in the day. And so for us,
business a lot of people ask why we're still around 20 years later it's like because I weave
these elements into the campaigns right we're using the media to like amplify but we're
still doing the things that got us attention back before we had the media before these guys
had the internet they were doing this stuff to get attention and so you can learn so much
for these things and apply them to your business today and it just changes everything