The Russell Brunson Show - Small Wins Can Swing Big Doors & Building Momentum Inside One Funnel Away

Episode Date: July 10, 2024

In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I had the pleasure of joining Dante Torelli for another invigorating Q&A session with our One Funnel Away challengers. It's always energizing to get back and connect with our community of funnelhackers, especially after being away for a bit! Dante and I kicked things off by welcoming new members and celebrating everyone's quick wins - because as we always say, small hinges swing big doors. Throughout the session, we tackled various questions from our dedicated community members. These questions ranged from the technical aspects to the creative challenges that I love to play around with! Each question is an active testament to the hard work and determination inside our community, and it was exciting to see their progress and passion. As you’ll listen, you’ll get special access to hear: Quick Wins Celebration: Emphasizing the importance of small victories in the journey to success. Technical Setup: Tips on integrating payment systems and connecting domains. Content Creation: Strategies for outlining and launching courses, webinars, and funnels. Community Support: The power of sharing wins and supporting each other in the challenge. Mind Mapping: Utilizing mind maps to streamline development and comprehension. Whether you're new to ClickFunnels or the One Funnel Away Challenge or if you’re a seasoned FunnelHacker, this episode is packed with insights and inspiration to help you on your marketing journey. Tune in and let's keep pushing forward - together! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get groceries delivered across the GTA from Real Canadian Superstore with PC Express. Shop online for super prices and super savings. Try it today and get up to $75 in PC Optimum Points. Visit superstore.ca to get started. What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, this week, we are back by popular demand with another Q&A episode.

You guys have liked us so far. So if you have just been catching up or just plugging in, every single week on Friday, they do a live Q&A with the One Funnel Away community and open up for an hour to Q&A. And it is so much fun getting people asking questions from all over the place. And we've published the last couple of Q&A sessions with you guys and the feedback has been really, really good. I think a lot of times when somebody asks a question, if one person asks it,

there's probably a hundred or a thousand who are wondering as well. And so this episode, we got a bunch more questions coming in from One Funnel Away community. If you are not part of the community, I go to onefunnelaway.com. You can sign up for a hundred bucks.

You get three month free trial to ClickFunnels, which is really cool offer. Probably the best offer we ever put out there. And then you can get on live Q&A calls. Trey Llewellyn does an e-commerce call every Tuesday. I do a live expert info product call every Friday and get your questions answered. And plus you also get access to the One Funnel Away Challenge, the brand new updated versions. Again, there's an e-com version and an expert version and they're both amazing. Anyway, so that's kind of game plan. So if you're not a

member yet, go to onefunnelaway.com, go get signed up. With that said, I'm going to jump right over and let you guys listen in to this last week of Q&A calls. And I hope you get one or two or three nuggets for yourself that will radically transform your business and maybe even your life. Thanks so much. I hope you enjoy the Q&A show. In the last decade, I went from being a startup entrepreneur to selling over a billion dollars in my own products and services online.

This show is going to show you how to start, grow, and scale a business online. My name is Russell Brunson, and welcome to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Let's get after it, gang. How are we today? Dante here, as always, ecstatic to be with you, ecstatic to see you. So many familiar names, so many familiar faces, and we also have Russellsell with us today russell how we doing my man what's up everybody dante how you doing man i am living the dream i couldn't be doing any better how about yourself i'm so excited i've been gone the last two weeks as you know and i'm pumped to be back hanging out with everybody and uh having some fun so i feel jealous you've

been doing it without me for the last couple weeks so yeah i'm pumped to be here we're juiced to have you back man uh so we're gonna do this session the same thing we've been doing, gang. First of all, before I get too deep into it and I forget, are there any new One Funnel Away challengers with us this week? Anybody here who's new, this is your first week in the challenge. If you're new, I'd love to see you. Beautiful, Leslie, Sonny, great to see you guys. Welcome to the challenge. If you're new, please go into the chat.

In Zoom, you have the chat, you have the Q&A. If you're new, I'd love to see you and I'd love to welcome you to the challenge. Just go to the chat, put new in the chat. Who else? We had a couple more new ones. Coach Stacy, great to see you. Welcome. Jacob, welcome. Jesse, welcome. Elvira, welcome. Great to have you guys with us. This is the One Funnel Away Challenge, where we love to do big things for big people and truly have an impact on the world. And for all the new people, as you can see, we have a rare opportunity to speak with the Russell Brunson. So without too much ado, Jonathan, great to have you. Without too much ado, I want to save as much time for Russell as humanly possible. So we're going to start this session off just like we have been. Small hinges lead to big doors. So let's do our quick wins. And quick wins are not specific to anybody. If you're brand new here today, I want you to know you can share your quick wins with us. Your quick win might be something so simple as, hey, I actually signed up for the challenge. I actually said yes to doing the thing. Instead of saying on the sidelines or sitting on a fence, I dove in. I said yes.

I challenged myself. Small hinges lead to big doors. So we want to celebrate those wins. And just a quick reminder, gang, these are quick wins, 10, 20, 30 seconds. We don't need to hear about your entire business or your life story. We have tons of time for that in the very near future here. So let's get to our wins. Selene, good morning.

Let me hear a win. Selene is frozen. Let's hop over to Daniel. Good morning, Daniel. Good morning, everybody. My win is I needed to find some articles for my newsletter, and I went to PLR bundles, and I found some, and so I'm ready to go. And I'll have questions later. Bingo. My man. Great stuff, Daniel. Kira, how about a win?

Okay. So apparently the way to get past the hurdle of payments AI is to cry. I finally got approved for payments AI. So I'm launching ads this weekend. I'm so excited. I love that. I love that, Kira. Way to stick in with it.

Way to go. Captain, great captains are born, not in calm seas, but in stormy seas. It was a stormy sea locked in there. Super, super proud of you. You're amazing. Don, give me that win, brother. A huge win is that I got my blessing behind the scenes from you that I can share my new brand with our, my provocative new brand with our group. It is going to be awesome.

Super cool, Doug. Great to have you. Michelle, let me hear a win. Hi, I finished my perfect webinar, the entire thing. So I'm very, very, very excited about that. Yeah, we should be. That's a bear. It's a burden.

That's a task and a half, but way to get it done. Can't wait to see how that turns out. Karen, very excited about that. Yeah, we should be. That's a bear. It's a burden. That's a task and a half. But way to get it done. Can't wait to see how that turns out. Karen, let me hear it. Hey, 90% done with my funnel. It's my first time on Expert. And I found the time to carve in to do the Think and Grow Rich Challenge. So I'm missing it, Russell, right now because you're playing now.

So I'm going to have to catch the replay. So I'm really happy. I love one and two. Oh my God, I love it. I love it. So I win. That's amazing. Great stuff, Karen. Great job. John, come on with it. All right. Can you hear me? Loud and clear, John. Awesome. Happy Independence Week, everybody. And that's what Trey Llewellyn said. We're fighting for financial independence, living the American dream. Quick win. Set up my payments. I am excited about that. And then I got a final order in of a lot of vendor material that I'm going to be using for my product on e-comm. And so I'm excited. We're ready to go. Set up, man. Good stuff, John. Way to get after it, man. Lisa, let me hear that win.

Hello. Outlined my course, which is going to be my lead magnet, and starting on the slides. Bingo. Love that, Lisa. Masco, give me the win. Hey, hello, everyone. I was just trying to find the buttons. Dante, I finally launched my course, which is a 10-week power program.

And then I created the funnel and I launched it on 4th of July. And it's not accidental. We all need to be independent in our brains and our minds. Absolutely. I will need some help fine-tuning it, but I guess we will come to that point. Thank you very much for your help. Oh, yeah. I'll get you squared away with that. Great job, Nazco. Next is Alonda.

Let me hear you. Hey, guys. So my big win, I have two this week. I have a fully functional funnel, amen, which I'm excited about, very excited about. And I also had my first graduate who's going through the funnel process. So I'm excited, excited, excited, because it's like wildfire. All I need is one and they just talk to each other. So it's great. It's really good. Great job, Alonda. Amazing. Thank you. Thank you. Selene, let me hear it. Did you see me?

There we go. I hit the magic button, Selene. You should be able to unmute. There we go. I'm so sorry. Just my internet sucks today. So my win with this portion of the class is I sat down with Russell's class because I got the concept of the perfect webinar, right? But I was like, I talk too much

and this is not putting myself down. This is just, you know, I need that hook quick. So what I did was step by step wrote down, okay, in my case, what is the first step, the second step, the third step? So it took me like three hours pausing, pausing and analyzing my situation. And I have the full script now. So I'm going to start recording.

I'm not going to practice too much, Dante. You know me, I always try to be perfect. I'm not going to do that this time. I'm going to practice like two, three times and then switch it to the funnel. So I'm super excited about that. Thank you. Come on with it. Finally going to let the world see.

I did put a question, but because my internet suck, it bumping me out. So if you could please, because I have to leave at one because I have curse secrets too. So it's a super quick question. Sorry.

Thank you. I'll do the best I can. Way to go. And way to finally let the world see the true you. Super excited for that. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Absolutely. Jason, let me hear it. Is this the first time we're seeing each other, Jason?

On this one, I think so, yes. Nice. Welcome. Let me hear that win. So I just scheduled my first tiny challenge, kind of four-day one-on-one that I've been putting off, doing a big webinar, and I'm doing the one-on-one that I've been putting off, doing a big webinar, and I'm doing the one-on-one challenge. And so it's scheduled for Monday. Very cool. Very cool. Tiny challenge is a new thing. You are on Russell's YouTube, that is for sure. Jacob, great to see you. This is the first time we're speaking as well,

correct, Jacob? Yes. Yes. I'm so glad to speak to you and to have as well Russell on the line. I'm so grateful for ClickFun the book funnel, which is super explained. And I take the time as well to go through the challenge and mind map it because my passion is mind mapping stuff. So I'm sharing then the mind map with community just to speed up, you know, like development and comprehension for the rest. So that's my wins. And my win with three kids going around and being sleepy, I'm participating in one hour webinar with my wonderful wife taking care of them. So that's another one. That's amazing. That's a bunch of big wins, Jacob.

Great for you, man. Great to have you here. Welcome to the challenge. Thank you. And to round us out for the wins, let's hear from Grace. Hi, Dante. How are you? I'm amazing.

You're not going to believe it. After seven years in business, I have finally landed on my ideal client, my avatar, this week. And now I've been able to rename my product, my membership, that speaks to them immediately. It will identify whether or not it's appropriate for the person, so immediately in the title and I've mapped out my whole level of my membership, so level one. So I am so excited being busy this week. That's amazing, Grace. I'm excited for you. Congratulations. Great job. You're welcome.

You know, before I just open the floor and let Russell start dominating some questions here and solving problems for us, I just want to remind everybody and really point out to the people, especially who are new, small wins lead to big doors. It's really true. I know everybody's been saying it forever and it's really easy for us to just be like, oh yeah, okay, whatever. I heard that before. No, small wins lead to big doors. It's true in our personal lives. It's true in our personal relationships. Do not forget to celebrate the small things. All right, and for everybody who's new, I'd love to hear your wins next week as well. Might be a little bit pushing you out of your comfort box to get up live and to speak to everybody. I understand, but everybody else you just saw share their wins. It was uncomfortable for them as well. Super excited to have you guys here with us. So, Russell, are you excited?

You ready to get into it? I'm excited. Let's have some fun. Awesome. Me too, man. I've been looking forward to this all week. The first question I would like to talk about is actually one that comes from the Facebook group. And I saw Dan ask this early a couple days ago. Dan Havey asked this. And man,

I just thought it was such a great and honest question. So I'll read it to everybody, but I'll also put this in the chat for you. Dan says, and this was to Matt's post, if you could ask Russell Brunson one question, what would it be? And Dan's question was, I actually believe that people like Russell are driven by obsession. Napoleon Hill refers to it as a burning desire. Henry Ford was obsessed with building a mass-producible automobile in his day there were dozens of auto manufacturers but his obsession made him a household name we can come up with dozens of examples elon musk tony robbins or modern day examples but for us average people who don't feel like we have that obsession how can we elevate our desire because i don't believe

you can fake obsession it's always been Dan's problem with the entire metaphysical movement, which he has lived for his entire life. So how does the average Joe without an obsession still get very high results? Ooh, what a fun question. Um, yeah. So I have a couple of thoughts about this. Um, and hopefully this will help somebody that's listening to this. Um, when I was growing up, uh, a lot of years ago, I'm a wrestler of thoughts about this. And hopefully this will help somebody that's listening to this. When I was growing up, a lot of years ago, I'm a wrestler. In fact, if you look close, you can see my cauliflower ear, which is very important to me. In fact, I bought wrestler.com and the logo is literally going to, it's my ear where I have the logo designed. It's amazing.

So, but I remember when I was growing up, I used to, I got into wrestling. I started loving it. I became obsessed with it. I'm very, I have an obsessive personality. So like that's easier for me to like get obsessed than to not be obsessed. But I remember I was watching this video and there, there's these two twin brothers named Tom and Terry Brands who are wrestlers. And I put this, it was a VHS tape I bought.

I put it in and the very first screen came up and it was Tom Brands. And he's looking at the screen and he's like, my name, my name is Tom Brands. My goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world. And then it flips up his twin brother and he's like, my name is Terry Brand brands. My goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world. And then it flips up his twin brother. And he's like, my name is Terry brands. My goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world.

I remember like hearing that and I got chills down my body. And all I could think was like, I'm Russell Brunson. My goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world. And like, that became my like driving thought for the next, like two, like next decade and half of my life. When I got into business, it was similar for me. Like when I, cause the first I was dabbling, I was having fun. But as soon as I realized like, this was the thing

I wanted to do, I shipped it from like, oh, I'm gonna try and figure out how to make some money to like, my name is Russell Brunson and my goal is simple. I want to be the greatest marketer that's ever lived on this earth. Like that became the goal that became the plan that became the, the thing. Right. Um, and like, it started this obsession for me because I think I had this, I had this goal and the goal wasn't, I want to make some money. Right. It was like, I want to be the greatest. I want to be the goat and whatever thing I do and everything I accomplished. So that's a big thing that I do for myself personally. But again, I also know that not everybody is like naturally as obsessive compulsive as I am. So the next question is like, well, how do you, how do you like, if you don't

have that yet, like how do you increase that desire? Right. Um, and desire is a funny thing because desire is like a flame, right? You can go big, you can go small. And like, so people are like, Oh, I have no desire. Now I have tons of desire right now. And like, and it ebbs and flows with things. And so for me, it's like, you have to find the thing that, um, like the thing that keeps you up at night. Right. And the reason why I feel like in our world, most people don't become obsessed is because they coming in trying to figure out how to make money and figure out how to make money is great. Like, that's awesome. Like money's fun. It's a good scorecard. After you start getting a lot of money, your rise in money is not that cool. Cause you're like this,

like, what's the point of this? Right. And then that's when people's desire dwindles and that disappears. And so you have to find that desire and something different, something bigger than that. And so for me, like it really began when I started having success for people. Like what, like my success was great. But when I had, when like I had a client or a student or someone who I was able to help and they got success, like how many of you guys have felt that before? Like that's a better feeling than yourself, right? Like I remember like you, you have success. You're like, yeah, that was awesome.

Then you have some of us have success. You're like, whoa, that was even better than when I had it. Like it's like this weirdest thing. It's the reason why people go into coaching. It's the reason why people go into coaching. It's the reason why people go into, like as an athlete, right? You're a good athlete, you win, that's amazing.

But then you help coach someone else and they win. That feels even better. Like there's like, that's where the desire and the obsession starts growing. And so for you guys, like the faster, especially we're in the expert track, which, you know, I love trade, but come on now. E-commerce, physical products, come on. Expert stuff's way better

because like you guys are pouring your expertise into somebody. Like something that you've figured out that you've learned that's actually changed. Like you're giving that to somebody else and you can see their results. And so the faster you can start transitioning to that, the more that desire will start to grow, right?

So that can be a lot of things. It could be like, like maybe if you don't have any clients yet, it's like, well, let me go find some clients. Let me go, like, I remember hearing Tony Robbins tell the story when he, um, he wanted to learn NLP. So we went to this like six week certification program, like traveled there.

And after the day two, he's like, this is amazing. I have these skills I want to use. And, um, and all his, you know, all the people in the class, like, well, you're not certified. I can't use them. He's like, but I have something I can use. And so, um, they actually, he got so frustrated. He like, I can't remember exactly where is's at, but he left the hotel room where they were studying NLP.

And he went to like the 7-Eleven across the street or Holiday Inn or something like that. And he found people in the lobby. He's like, let me fix you. And he's like fixing people and using all these things because he was so obsessed with it. And he stopped working on them and he got more and more obsessed. And then the NLP like practitioners got so mad that he was using it without being certified. They kicked him out of the group and he never got certified through NLP, even though he's like the biggest, like, um, you

know, uses it more than anybody else probably on this planet. And so the key is like, as soon as you like, you start helping other people, that's, what's going to like, going to make that, that desire grow. So it's like, go find someone you can serve fast. Even if you don't have a business yet, your course isn't done yet or whatever's not done yet. That's fine. Go like, go start helping people right now.

Find your friends, your family members, find someone off the street. Like just go serve someone right now while you're doing this process. And as you start seeing the light bulbs go off on their head and then having success, like that's at least for me, the best way to increase desire is seeing that like the, the, the practical application of your knowledge in somebody else's life. Like that's the, that's the best one. So I hope that helps two different, two different paths for the already obsessed. There's how I do it. And for the ones who want to get obsessed, that's how you one. So I hope that helps. Two different paths. For the already obsessed, there's how I do it. And for the ones who want to get obsessed,

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Okay, I have another question. Talking about two sides of things. We have another, yeah, there it is, gang. Talking about two sides of things. We have another question. I just put it in the chat, there it is, gang. We'll pick up two sides of things. We have another question. I just put it in the chat, but it's banging. So I'll put it back here and we'll see if we can keep up. The question is, this is from Lauren.

And Lauren says, how would you advise that someone go about launching a two-sided marketplace business? It's an entrepreneurial matchmaking site with no pre-existing list or audience to market the subscription to. How can I ensure that there are enough members on each side of the match for there to be balance and value for all upon joining? Thank you so much in advance. Oh, very cool. So marketplaces are awesome and they're also hard because like she nailed it. Like there's the chicken and the egg, right? Like if I have a big marketplace, everyone's going to be there, but if no one's there, who's going to come join the marketplace. Right. And so you have this kind of like this, this middle ground. And so what's like the, the hard thing is like, you have to

create the, um, you have to get the demand and you have to create the supply, right? You're creating supply and demand. And then that's what the marketplace is. It comes together when there's when there's, there's high demand for the thing and there's a supply of the thing and you have to create the supply right you're creating supply and demand and then that's what the marketplace is it comes together when there's when there's there's high demand for the thing and there's a supply of the thing and you're the ones bringing it all together and so if you don't have that yet don't have a list yet that's you gotta think through it's just like okay because the marketplace isn't hard like it's just it's software in the middle that facilitates this thing it's you creating the demand and then creating the supply that that's magical so um for me what the the first step typically is is i gotta figure to figure out the supply, right? Cause if I also a bunch of demand, but there's no supply that demand will

go somewhere else. It's like, Hey, what's the supply. So if you're, it sounds like a two-sided marketplace, entrepreneurial matchmaking site. So you're trying to find the matchmaker. So like what I would do is I would try to go find partners, people who already have existing entrepreneurs, like who already have your dream customers and say, okay, try to find five or 10. And the reality is anytime you do, you're reaching out for partners. It's, it's a numbers game. And this is like a lot of people don't do joint ventures or affiliate stuff because they're scared of like, what if someone rejects me?

And the reality is most people will reject you. It's a numbers game, right? When we do a big launch and even inside ClickFunnels, like I'll reach out to 500 people personally. And then from the 500 people, like I'll get a hundred that actually respond. From a hundred that respond, 30 say yes. And from the 30 that say yes, 10 actually do something. And so, and that's me. That's Russell Brunson, who's been doing this forever, right?

Like it's just, it's a funnel. And so understanding that. So it's like, if I need to get, I need to build supply and demand. I'm looking for entrepreneurs. Like I got to go find people who already have the entrepreneurs and bring and sell them on this idea. So what I would do is I would come back to, you know, Russell Brunson, one-on-one build a dream 100.

Who are the a hundred people got your dream customers who, who would be facilitating this marketplace anyway, excuse me, figure out what's other people that I feel like what's in it for them. Why would they want to bring their audience to this thing? I got to create some, some value for them to actually bring this thing in. Right. So I'm thinking like, what's the, what's the value for that person? Is it, is it giving them exposure? Is it giving them leads? It's like, what's the thing for them? And then I go out there, I contact all hundreds. Hey, we're doing this thing. We have a marketplace

launching. Uh, you know, we want you to be one of the train, the head facilitators. We want your face on the side or we want whatever, whatever the value is for them. Right. And if, and you do that, then you bring your audience in and this is how we're going to do it. Right. So like, that's the, that's the thought process in my head that I'd be focusing on is, is really that is like, okay, um, that's, that's, um, uh, like that's how I'm going to do it. And then I'm going to go message a hundred people, right. Hit message dream 100 and try to contact them. And then from there, try to get, you know, if I mess with a hundred people, try to get, you know, 30 to say that respond back to me from there, get 10 to say yes. And there get three or four to be part of it. And

then that's it. You have three or four there get three or four to be part of it and then that's it you're three or four people three or four people you bring their audiences together you're the facilitator of the whole thing and then boom now you're now you've got something that you can launch and you can start going out there and running with okay but it's gonna if you don't have a list right now it's definitely gonna be partnerships it's gonna be dream 100 it's figure out for the dream 100 partner what's in it for them like why should they send their list or their audience to this marketplace and then then number two is then like, um, after you figure out, after you've sold them on what's in for them, it's like contacting all of them and just realizing it's just a big funnel.

Dream 100, your goal is to get two or three people, but you got to have a hundred. If you just respond, if you reach out to three people, you probably get three notes. So it's like, it's, it's volume, it's numbers. And that's the key you have to understand is, is always reaching out to a lot more people. So I have a project I'm putting on for next month, right? And same thing. We're building a brand new dream 100 list. I'm contacting a hundred people and that's the whole, you know, like, and it's the same thing. I'm hoping to get 10 people to say yes. And so that's the, that's kind of process. Oh, nice. She's with us. Yeah, please feel free to unmute. If you have any

final comments. No, I was just going to say that is so helpful. I'm just kind of trying to wrap my mind around how to just kind of project the timeline when I'm reaching out to so many different people in terms of like a projected, I don't want to say like launch date, because obviously if I'm reaching out to 100 people and 10 get back to me and then only three end up, you know, moving on the idea, just in terms of trying to get an idea up, you know, moving on the idea just in terms of trying to get an idea of, you know, when things might start moving since I'm trying to white label a matchmaking software and then in trying to put things out in terms of marketing, just getting an idea on like a rough, you know, launch date, just kind of how you conceptualize those kinds of things when you are reaching out to so many different people at the same time, just in terms of, you know, when,

you know, things can actually come to fruition, just in terms of you know when you know things can actually come to fruition just in kind of trying to get an idea of how it will all actually play out for sure so what i do is i actually do pick a launch date but but like i'm okay moving it if i don't get people to say yes but having one because it gives it gives um the people you're contacting it gives them like a window to see like let's's work for me or not. A lot of times, a lot of times they respond back. I can't cause it doesn't work and that's fine. But then you at least have them in a,

in a, you know, list like he's people who would, who were willing to do it, but the date didn't work for him. And then if you need to shift and come back to say, Hey, we had moved dates for this speaker over here. Are you okay?

If you know, would this date work better? Maybe you get a yes from there, but I definitely would leave. Like when I'm contacting them, I would, I would cut, I contact them with absolute certainty.

Like this is the thing I'm doing. This is the date. This is like, cause when someone comes I would, I would like contact them with absolute certainty. Like this is the thing I'm doing. This is the date. This is like, cause when someone comes to me, like I want them to have absolute certainty. They have a plan and a path. If you come in like, I'm thinking about this thing, maybe the next month or two, like, it's like, Oh, they're not really sure what's happening. You know? So I would just pick a date, even if, even if it's going to change, like just pick a date and then like lead with that. And that way, um, yeah, like in any situation, the person with the most certainty wins. So if you're going to be contacting somebody, you got to come,

even if you don't feel real certainty, you got to come into a certainty. Like this was happening. This is the day it's going to be amazing. This is the plan. Like you got to sell them with your, with your certainty on why that's so amazing. And that's what can get someone to buy into the, to the vision. That makes sense. Thank you so much. Can't tell you how much I appreciate your time. No worries worries i'm excited to

see your matchmaking site that's cool thank you and and you know it's funny the timing you you just talked to steve about this i don't know when you talked to him but it just launched recently about like when you were trying to do your dream 100 and you talked about how you got out of your jeep a hundred times over and over hey get out of my jeep hey this is uh hey hey how's it going hey what's up man hey yeah i filmed a literally um i've done probably a dozen times in my career but every time it was important i sat down i recorded 100 200 300 plus videos all my dream 100 personalizing it this is for you this is why and um that's a lot of work but it's amazing and results are better too, right?

Because like you were saying in the video, you're not just sending out like some kind of spammy email. It's not just text. It's not just like, oh, hey, come try this thing. It's really personalized. And we're talking, this is a numbers game, right? So anything we can do to increase the numbers, to increase the people that actually open

to pay attention to it, and that increases the people that we get. Man, that is gold. I love my life. Okay. I saw a really good follow-up question. Michelle asked in the comments, she said, do you message via, uh, via message or email? The reality is every single person I contact at Dream 100 has a different process. And it's annoying. Like for me, people in my world know the only way I respond to you is, is boxer. Like that's it. I won't respond to anything else.

Other friends I know are only Instagram. Some are only DM. Some are telegraph for crying out loud. Like there's a guy who I have telegraph on my phone for this one person. Cause that's the only way I have two or three people I know who only communicate through Skype. And so I have no idea. So for me, it's like, as I start reaching out, I'll reach out on Instagram.

Then maybe two days later, I'll reach out on Facebook messenger. Then I'll try until I get some hook where it comes back. And I'm like, okay, now I know this person responds on this platform. Sometimes I have to send direct mail. I've sent pizzas to people's offices before. I've done all sorts of weird stuff to try to like figure out because everyone's got their own platform or their own way that they communicate with. And so you have to be respectful of that. Like when someone works with me, I'm doing a deal right now with someone right now

and my first thing is like, hey, do you see, if you're going to do a deal with me, it's got to be on Voxer and their whole team's downloading Voxer now but if I'm doing a deal with them, I will bow down to whatever platform that they want me to communicate on

and then that's where I focus on because for me, everything's about them and I'm asking them for something, I will do whatever they say and I will do it in a way that they want me to say it. Nice.

Thanks again. Yeah. All right. The next question comes from Dominic. Dominic says, let me just put this in the chat for us all really quick so we can follow along. Okay, Dominic says, Russell, we have generated over $2 million in the past few years with your teachings. Thank you for that. We have basically flatlined at about $750,000 per year for two years now.

Our attractive character has limiting time to consistently do a webinar. I am personally the integrator. He's the Todd. Would you still advise for us to do a webinar every single week for one year lives excuse me okay it's a great question um so uh this is one of the hard things like when the attractive character is like all bought in 100 ready like it's easier like for me it's like easy for me to do webinar all the time it's like i'm the person uh i know um i know this question is from so he's i think he's the one driving things more. So he's got

this attractive character trying to get to do stuff. So it kind of depends. I mean, the, the doing a webinar a week, uh, every week for years to master the presentation and match the master, the pitch. Um, and I do that until it's converting well. Now, some people do that a lot faster. Like Annie Grace is a good example. If you guys know Annie Grace, she came into our world and she was like, I think she was like eight and a half months pregnant when she came to Fun Hockey Live. She had to drive there because they wouldn't let her fly. She came to the thing. Then she joined Inner Circle like two weeks later.

She was at Boise's office. We told her to do a webinar. She modeled the whole thing. She recorded the webinar. I think it was like six days before baby was born. And then she put it live. And then she went and had a baby. And then it converted.

The first version converted great. And it's been six years now to keep running traffic, that same version that she, that she recorded like six days before her baby was born because it worked. Right. So I think that's the bigger thing is like the reason why I tell people do a webinar every single week for years, because most people it's not going to convert, but if you got one that's converting or they do two or three or whatever, like, and that's the amount of time you have with the attractive character. Like that becomes the focal point. And then you can start driving ads to it. Now I want to add one more evolution to this idea that,

um, that's been, uh, really big for me just in the last three or four months. Um, some of you guys may know who Tim Shields is. Tim is someone who's, uh,

he's one of my Atlas members. He spoke at last year's fun hacking live. Um, and it was really fascinating because, um, he, if you get on, in fact, it's worth getting on his list. He's in the photography market, right? He's doing over $10 million a year in the photography market, selling a $500 course. Like it's still kind of crazy to me what

he does. But what he does is he, he, he does, he calls them, I mean, he does dramatic demonstrations, but he does them in different spots, right? So he'll do a photography course on the side of the Grand Canyon. Then do a photography course at some lake in Banff, Canada. There's another photography course in Hawaii. So he does these courses. He'll fly out to Hawaii. He'll record this course. And then while he's in Hawaii, he'll do an actual webinar. And the webinar is like, hey, I'm in Hawaii.

So it's like unique dramatic demonstrations. They're coming to Hawaii to see, you know, they're streaming him. He's streaming to them live in Hawaii. He does a presentation doing very specific with like the thing he's doing in Hawaii. But then the offer is the same offer. It's a presentation doing very specific with like the thing he's doing in Hawaii, but then the offer is the same offers $500 course he sells. Right. And then, uh, and then a couple months later, he does the one in beside the grand Canyon. So over the last year, he's built up nine webinars. All of them have different hook. They have different dramatic demonstration, same offer. And if you join his email list right now, you'll notice that the first week he promotes one of the

webinars, the nevergreen version, the next week promotes the next one and actually person and he goes through the the the nine webinars so if he joins list every week you'll see him for nine weeks and he gets to the bottom he starts back at the top and he just keeps going through and he gets the bottom goes back to the top so he's promoting a different webinar every single week that sells the same offer does that make sense so he's hitting it from different angles, but his list never gets tired of him promoting this webinar because they're all a little bit different. And so, sorry, my iPad's ringing. My daughter, anyway, long story.

She got hooked up to my iPad. So every time she calls her friends, my phone starts ringing. Anyway, so that's just like another model too. Like if you have an attractive character who's like, doesn't want to do multiple times, it's like, cool, have them do one on this angle. Have them do, you know, and you start automating a couple of. Like if you have an attractive character, who's like, doesn't want to do multiple times, like cool, have a new one on this angle. I'm new.

You know, and you start automating a couple of versions. Now you have different versions. You can drive traffic to as well. So. And it sounds like in the question, he's just having his hard time getting his attractive character to kind of show up and do the webinars.

So if that's the case, would you just be thinking evergreen the best one he's done so far? That way you can continue to run it. You can do that. Or one other idea that I'm doing now. So like I just did, some of you guys are on the course secrets call. evergreen the best one he's done so far that way you can continue to run it you can do that or one other idea that um i'm doing now it's like i just did some of you guys are on the course secrets call i have a course secrets call starting in 30 minutes so i did think and grow rich we did thinker's challenge to sell course secrets uh and then i did um an info riches master class for the

dan kennedy audience selling it and so what the difference was like i came on and i facilitated the webinar and i clicked play and they watched it was like a 50 minute clip from the thinking words challenge that we played on the webinar. And then I came back and I did the, I did the pitch direct. So one thing, um, one thing he could do is just like, he could be the facilitator, jump on. Hey, what's up everyone? It's June 29th. Welcome to the webinar. All right. I'm gonna show you guys a really cool clip from so-and-so teaching boom, like pop over and have the attractive character do the teaching for 45, 50 minutes, and then come back and then him do the pitch and do the call to action by himself. And so that's another way to do it where you become the facilitator, you know, plug in the content. In fact, I have a whole bunch of webinars I'm writing right now that literally are like me introing, playing a clip from Funnel Hacking Live, and me coming back and stacking the clothes at the end.

Because it's like so much simpler. It saves me 45 minutes or an hour of like reteaching something. And it's, anyway, I'm trying to figure out easier ways to do more webinars this stage of my life, so. I don't blame you. And I imagine it'd be a lot easier

to get your attractive character to come back and do another webinar. If you're like, hey, we're just going to try and do one that we can evergreen and not have to keep calling you every week. He'll probably be jumping at the bit for that one for sure or just have them do the training part and you do the the stack and the clothes you know all things like that as well right 100 okay uh final question and then we're going to hit some hands that are up

this one is from ezra and ezra says i'm following russell model. Let me put this in the chat for you all. Sorry. Let's do that there. Ezra says, I'm following Russell's model of working for a client for free, getting results, then go live to start charging and getting paid clients. My question is, at what point should I pull the trigger after the results? For example, how much results is great results to then officially start charging for his services? That's a good question. Um, I don't think you have to wait. Um, you know what I mean? Like a lot of times, like the biggest problem we have in this, in any business is just waiting. Like we, we keep waiting and we keep waiting and keep waiting. Right? Like when I had drew cannoli, I did the work with drew cannoli. I flew out in, those are the context on that before I launched my coaching business. Um, I found a dream client, Drew Canole, it flew out to his office, worked for free, helped them build the thing out. Um, and so I was working with them doing a bunch of stuff, but at the same time, like I was working to launch my, the consulting brand. And so like, as I was doing stuff, I was, I was like practicing on them and I was putting into my coat, my course I was practicing. And like, and so like I was,

I was doing it in real time. Um, and I started selling it before, before I had like an insane result for them. Cause I didn't want to wait for six months. And I'm like, what if they don't have the result? What if they take forever? What, you know, like, it's just nice to have so that when you do have that, it becomes this really powerful thing. Right. And so like, I wouldn't wait.

In fact, um, uh, you'll see, uh, so next month I'm doing an event. Probably I'm still figuring out the date and time and stuff. I'm doing a, a virtual three day event. And, um, and to lead that event, some of you guys may have heard the podcast. I did a podcast looking for two people who want to pay a hundred thousand dollars for me to, to do five calls with them on how to do, um, on how to create a webinar. Right. And so I got two people paying a hundred grand.

I'm doing the calls right now. Um, but, but part of it's like, I'm doing the five calls, but another webinars are done. They're not going to be done. You know, like, and so it's not finished yet. Um, and so I don't have that result, but the result I do have is like, I'm doing the five calls, but none of the webinars are done. They're not going to be done. You know, like, and so it's not finished yet. And so I don't have that result. But the result I do have is like I had two people with $100,000 to get the same thing you guys are learning for just $10,000, right? Like that kind of transition.

So it gives me a thing as well. So it even gives you the ability to say, look, I have clients I'm working with right now. I'm working with this client right now. Like you can start saying that you're working with clients, even though, you know, maybe they don't have the result yet, or maybe they have a little micro results. Like you can share whatever, whatever piece that they have right now, but don't wait until like the perfect result comes before you can launch something. Right. Like it's just keep doing it and then share the mini wins you're getting along the way. And then when they do have that big result, then you come back in and amplify everything

else with that. Does that make sense? Absolutely. I would say just don't, don't wait. Like everyone wants to wait. Like wait like yes getting a client working for me is great do that stuff but keep moving forward like it's just all it's gonna do is amplify yourselves there's a lot a lot of people who make sales without without a testimony without a client it's not anything so you can still make money without it um but like as soon as you have that testimony that success story that case study then it'll amplify everything else but don't wait for that to get started. 100%. Such great advice there. Okay. So like Russell just said, he does have another webinar coming up and we can't keep him too much longer. So I want to knock out a couple hands that are up.

Selene said she has a really quick one. Let's start with Selene. Actually, I don't need Russell for this. Sorry, Russell. I appreciate your time. But so I private message you. It's just a friendly reminder for my question last week. I need to, I don't know how to identify who is clicking in my offer because I want to call them and see why they didn't move forward. So that's one question. And the other simple question was, of course, I forgot, but I put it in the message. I just don't want to take Russell's time for this.

But thank you, though. I appreciate it. No worries. I'll get you that answer in a couple hours here, Selena. Thank you. I appreciate it. Absolutely. Hey, Funnel Hackers, I want to talk about building your business.

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A lot of bad stuff happened, but the group itself has about 14,000 members. And although it isn't technically affiliated or connected to my new projects, which is geared towards health and anti-aging, et cetera, the company that I used to have used to help moms with sick babies with acid reflux disease. Those moms over 15 years have reached a certain point in their life, and they could very well qualify for what I'm doing now. How can I utilize that group? I mean, there's close to 14,000 members in there. I had group leads on there for a lot of it. So I have a lot of email addresses. Like, what can I, I want to change the name. I don't know how to handle that, but I don't want to

like throw those leads away. That's a lot of leads that could potentially turn into, you know, people I could help or. Yeah. How different is that market to the new one? Are they like night and day difference or is there a tangential? Babies usually only have acid reflux for a year and they typically move on to other areas in their life. Now, a lot of those moms 15 years later could potentially be in their 30s and 40s, which is where I'm targeting now because I'm helping both men and women deal with, you know, combating or optimizing the healthiest life they can as they grow older. And I'm doing that with products and services. So what do you think? Do you think I can do something with that group? I would say, so a couple of things I would say is number one, it's definitely worth doing something to try and move people over. But at the same time, it would almost be easier to build a new 15,000 person group than to bank on moving those people over.

You know what I mean? So I would say is I would probably create something, a campaign, maybe spend 14 days doing a video campaign or something, trying to get the right people to raise their hands. Like, hey, this new thing I'm doing, this is amazing. We're moving everyone over here. We're shutting this group down. If you're interested, let us know. And like do some kind of campaign and get people excited.

But then knowing that like there's going to be beginning and an end. And I would even like tell them we're shutting this group down. It's going to be dead. And then who knows, you may get 300, 500 people to raise their hand and move to something different. But then you got that new group. And then from there, I start focusing all effort on just on growing the new group that's very specific to the thing you're trying to do.

Does that make sense? It does make sense. But would it be, in your opinion, do you think it would be just as beneficial to make an announcement in that group and say the group is changing rather than counting on them to take those two or three steps to join another group? Like maybe do a video or an announcement saying, hey, this group has served XYZ for a number of years and now we're focusing on this. Is the group active right now? Yeah, it is. I haven't engaged in it in probably four months

and I've got like 2,000 people waiting to join. Oh, really? A lot. But are they all waiting to join. Oh, really? A lot. But are they all waiting to join because of acid reflux? Like their kid's going crazy and they're like, get me. It's a huge like emotional thing for me. There was a lot of stuff that happened. I'm not going to get into it, but it was a business fail, right?

Yeah. But I wanted to. My biggest thing is like, my biggest fear for you is like, because the algorithm is going to, if a group is active on a topic, it'll start showing more people. So if you've got acid reflux and you're trying to bring them over here and all of a sudden like they're commenting, you shift the conversation. And again, 15,000 is only like 300 actually want that stuff. I mean it's –

And all the other conversations will slow down. Right. I get it. But I mean wouldn't those – whoever switches over or sticks around, maybe 10%. But still, that's. Well, just because you change the name of the group here, it doesn't mean you change that person or their identity or their problems or what they want. Right.

True. Yeah. Yeah. I would try to get the people raise their hand. They're interested in that topic and I would move them off. And then you can start building a clean group. Cause then if you have the 300 people actually want that topic and then you start on some basic Facebook ads, I mean, you get 15,000 people in the next three months. And that's the right people.

And then that algorithm is going to feed that, and then it's going to bring more of the right people. Versus right now, they have 15 years of data that this is an asset reflux group. So when you're trying to, like, advertise and bring more of your new dream client in, it's going to find these assets. Even if you change the name, Facebook's like, the commonality that these 15,000 people have is this. And that's who they're going to start finding, and then you're not going to get the right dream client in it's going to find these assets even if you change the name facebook's like the commonality that these 15 000 people have is this and that's who they're going to start finding and then you're not going to get the right dream client in got it like that'd be my biggest fear is like it's so like 15 000 groups great but like you can build them way faster um and then the right people and the algorithm can find the right people ads can pull the right people and then it just becomes easier from there you know thank you so much for everything that you do for us both you

and by the way dante is a rock star he's great right i love him so lucky to have him he's amazing awesome thanks so much thank you and kira i'd like for you to stick around uh uh when russell goes i'm going to start the second half i have a story for you about the hypnotist. Cool. Let's hop over to Sabir. Sabir, how are we, man? Hit my magic button. There we go. Hello.

Hey. Thank you. Thank you very much for prioritizing me. I have a question about my funnel so i've built my funnel i'm sales coach and um try to build my funnel now and the first step is like a book for free it's like eight powerful skills um that will make you unstoppable in sales and then second step will be um like upsell like a webinar for a small ticket price and then um bringing them to to webinar um with a around 400 euro price and then after that the high ticket sales is that an effective strategy you think or i should do something differently

maybe okay say it again. So you're going, is it a free webinar or a paid webinar, Fred? I think about the paid one. Okay. And how much do you charge for the webinar? Think about something small, like seven euro. Okay. It can kill my conversion rate.

You had a step before the webinar too, correct, Sabir? Did you say it was a free consultation? No, it's a free book. The name is Eight Powerful Skills in Sales. That will make you unstoppable. So it's just kind of a hook to get the email address. And after that, there will be a page coming with the webinar. Cool.

That's an e-book, right? Yeah. Yeah. So free e-book to a $7 webinar. Yes. And then after that, they will come to webinar. And in this webinar, I'm going to pitch the package with different courses and et cetera 379 euro and then once i get them as a client so they might be interested in high ticket as well that's that's a general strategy yeah gotcha so there's a i have a debate in my inner circle with uh more so on challenges because like um half the group does

like free challenge have to pay challenges we always fight back and forth like who's right who's wrong and the reality is they're different hammered. They're different tools, right? And they're different things. So webinars, I don't actually know anyone doing a paid webinar right now. I'm not against it. I haven't seen anyone successfully grow or scale a paid webinar. So it's harder for me because I'm like, oh, here's how so-and-so is doing.

I've seen the model. I don't think it wouldn't not work, but I have not seen somebody yet who's crushed it with a paid webinar. I have some people crush it with paid challenges. So it comes back to just the end goals, right? For me, I like having webinars with a lot of people. I don't like having a brick wall that keeps people from showing up. You know what I mean? It's like that's kind of why I like doing free webinars because I want as many people as possible.

So I can make the pitch and have as many people there as possible. Same with my free challenges. That said, next month I'm testing out a paid challenge because everyone who's doing paid challenges is like, oh, you know, this is the best people show up. They're more likely to buy. We sell more high ticket stuff and there's all that version of it as well. And so, um, yeah, that's kind of, it's kind of like it could work. It couldn't work. I would probably test that and maybe try a free one, try a paid one and just see because one was going to be dramatically better than the other. We couldn't work. I would probably test that. Maybe try a free one, try a paid one and just see, because one was going to be dramatically better than the other.

We won't know until you actually test it. Because if you do a, if you do a paid webinar and seven bucks and you get 30 people to pay and show up, that's hard. Cause then, you know, your show up rate will probably be higher. You're probably getting 90% of people to show up, which is great. But if you do the same thing as a free webinar and you would have got 300 people registered and you get a hundred to show up, you up, which one's got a better audience? And so I think that would say I would test back and forth just to see which one ends up giving you more money at the end of the day.

But then after that, the rest of the funnel and the strategy sounds perfect. That's the only one that's unique that I haven't seen somebody successfully execute on yet. I'm not against it. I'm not going to like – every time someone does something different, I always get these battles with them. Like there's no way a paid challenge will work. And then someone does one and they pull out $2.3 million on their paid challenge. I'm like, okay, I guess paid challenges will work. So I'm not going to say it's not going to work.

I just haven't seen it yet. And so I'd say it would be a cool thing to test and then – but I would do a quick test, maybe one week one way and one week the other way and just see what the numbers – how they shake out and then double down on whichever one whichever one wins uh if you would um have a one strategy for sales coaches in general like what kind of funnel would you recommend um are you teaching them to sell on the phone not only all the ways like also with um helping helping ai in their everyday job also with phone emails linkedin outreach and also high ticket sales like everything included in one sales package gotcha basically i do is i would make sure that that what the process you're teaching them is the process you're using does that make sense like i see people all the time who, like, I'm going to tease them. So, Stu McLaren, I love him.

One of my best friends on the planet. He has a course teaching people how to do membership sites. And I'm like, if you instead sold the membership site and had a membership site, people would see the process. I think it would do better. But he has a course teaching membership sites. Like, if you're teaching high-ticket sales, you should be doing, like, if you're teaching phone sales, you should be doing phone sales. If you're teaching, like, live event sales, you should be doing phone sales. If you're teaching like live event sales, you should be doing live events. So I would sync it to the process that you're teaching so they can see like the process that they're buying through should be the same process you're teaching.

So I would sync those as close as humanly possible. That way they're seeing like, oh my gosh, he does what he's talking. It worked on me. Like when someone goes to my world and they see me do the perfect webinar, you should see the comments. You're like, he's doing the perfect webinar. Oh my gosh, this is real. Oh, like they're freaking out

because they've learned about it and they're seeing me do it, right? And so it's like, that's the biggest thing is like, make sure you're congruent with like how you're doing the thing and how you're fulfilling the same way because then people will be like, oh, it worked on me.

Of course, this can work for them. They're more likely to follow the process. Does that make sense? Yeah, of course. Thank you so much, Russell. Very cool. Thank you. And as I've been thinking about it, you know, you really have me on a P.T. Barnum kick lately.

So I am very amateur studying P.T. Barnum. But I don't remember P.T. Barnum, if you guys don't know, is the king of dramatic demonstrations. And it's the inspiration for Russell doing his old thing on dramatic demonstrations. And it's amazing because dramatic demonstrations really, truly are the key, especially now that paid ads are getting all crazy. And it's just the landscape is changing. So, like, forgive me, Russell, but I am an amateur at the studies of P.T. Barnum. But I don't remember P.T. Barnum ever making a dramatic demonstration paid, which is what your webinar is. Nobody ever had to, like, pay P.T. Barnum $3 to learn about this new really cool event or really cool thing.

The dramatic demonstration or the webinar is free. People can join that. And that free thing then shows them about the paid thing and they pay to go do that thing. So if you were looking for a nudge on where to start, should I start paid? Should I start free? I would nudge you to start free. Get a bunch of people in that webinar. Get them hyped up and excited just like we do it.

And then turn those people into sales down the line. Speaking of dramatic administration, do you want to see something cool I got in the mail this week, Dante? Yeah. Are you kidding me? Yeah. Here's Nerd Russell. This book cost me way too much money. But as you guys know, I buy old books.

And I found this book called Showmanship in Business from 1937. Wait, is that right? 1936. 1937 wait is that right uh 1936 1936 and it's like all the dramatic demonstrations these guys were doing back in 1936 that's insane so you can see like the front they got the big old balloon on anyway so book nerd here i just got excited and he said drag demonstrations because my new book well that's great now i'm gonna be on a trail of ebay trying to find that book i've never even heard of that. That's awesome. It's 1250. Can we do one more quick one, Russell?

Heck yeah. So my next one starts at the top of the hour, but I'm going to go in like two minutes before, and then I'll jump off and switch over there. So yeah, I'm good to go. Of NASCO, Daniel, Cesar, and Ryan, do any of you guys know your question is fairly quick? Okay. Cesar, let's do it then. Let's hear it.

So I'm actually in the next course too. Also, I'll be seeing a little bit, but I'm doing a supplement sales. So I know you've done that before. I jumped in on this because I wanted to build a click funnel into the course. I have a partnership with Spartan races. I shot you a couple of messages, seeing if you're interested in doing a race i'd pay for your kids to go for free so my question um what what would you recommend i do with that partnership giving away a free race giving away supplements doing a training program what kind of funnel would you recommend i build starting i'm starting it today what is the first step to come to a race well so the idea is to sell supplements and i'm able to give away a race say again uh so my niche is to people who've never done a race before that's who i'm trying to get i'm trying to get people who've never done a

race before i have a training program i have joe to send us free a book that i could get so i have a lot of resources at my disposal because of this partnership. So I'm trying to figure out what the best way to put a supplement funnel together in order to encourage people to buy the supplement and in exchange, get a free race or buy the race and get a free supplement. So they try it. That's where I'm kind of stuck. Very cool.

Yep. All right. So I do, I would, we did this in Lady Boss. We did it with canton pole and we did it was called the the uh the cake challenge and so it was like like we wrapped it in a thing where it's like okay the goal is to lose x amount of x amount of weight a certain period of time but it's the cake challenge inside the cake challenge you have to work out and you have the supplements and all these kind of things and it became this complete package so i've been thinking the dream customer is someone who's not racing right now so i'll do something like yourfirstrace.com or racing to to a six-pack or something whatever the end result is right that's gonna challenge

like that so then the challenge comes in it's like hey the challenge kit the first thing you need you're gonna get the book then you're gonna get the so when we sold like the um the the cake challenge it was like you're gonna lose weight based on the weight, here's the challenge kit you need, which is going to be supplements, workout thing, whatever it was, right? And it's the kit that they need to be able to fulfill on the challenge. Now, they didn't have to sign up for the kit, but that was the upsell. Someone registered for the challenge. Then the upsell page is like, hey, thanks for joining the challenge.

We're going to help you lose weight. This kit's going to help you get there faster because it's going to give you this book and this thing and the supplement sheet for the next 30 days plus blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You had all the stuff put together and then we shipped it out. I think the conversion rate was like 30-something percent on the kit. They gave them, again, the book, the supplements, all kinds of stuff they would need to be able to have more success during the challenge.

If it was me, that's what I would do. Just some kind of challenge funnel where the end result of the challenge is this. It's a free challenge. You can get the free education, but then challenge kits like, you know, we got two types of people to join the challenge. Those who sign up and do it for free. And it's great.

They get some results, but those who get the best results are those who actually have the supplements. They have the book. They have the motivation. They have the VIP calls. They have all the other stuff. So you've upgraded right here.

We'll give you that stuff right as well. So that's how I would probably structure it. Awesome. Thank you. you that stuff right. Well, right as well. So that's how I would probably structure it. Awesome. Thank you. Yeah, no worries. Tell Joe. Hi, he's awesome. Yes. Thanks. I will. Dante, you're muted. I don't have a magic button. First day on the job. Well, that was awesome, man. I know it's a couple of minutes early, but I think everybody's going to be going to hang out with you in the Course Secrets training anyway. So I won't keep you too much longer for today.

Do you have anything you want to end us out on today, Russell? Cool. No, the biggest thing, guys, I hope you're enjoying this process. Like, again, business is stressful. It's fun. There's all this stuff. But like when all of a sudden this is a game and it's fun and you should be enjoying it, right? It's creation. It's enjoying it. It's creation.

It's trying things. It's failing. I think people always ask me, like, Russell, you've worked with hundreds of thousands of entrepreneurs. What's the difference between those who have success and those who don't? And the reality is the difference is the ones who have success are the ones who are not afraid to just throw stuff against the wall and see what happens. I would say that my experience is athletes usually do really, really well as entrepreneurs because they're used to going and stepping out on the mat or on the court or on the field and trying and losing and trying and losing. And that's what entrepreneurship is.

And so a lot of times we're like, I don't want to mess this up because if it doesn't work, then I'm a failure or those kind of things. It's just like, no, you're putting these out there. No one's even seeing what you're doing, right? Did any of you guys see when I launched Zip Brander? Oh, none of you did? Oh, really? That was the very first thing I launched when I was in college. The very pre-potato gun, pre-everything Zip Brander was the first thing. How many of you guys saw Excitewear.net? Oh, none of you guys? Oh, weird. Cause I put that out there like 20

years ago. It was like, that was like, I bought the domain name. I was so excited. I'd just gotten married. I told my wife, I bought our first domain name. It's Excitewear.net. And I was going to sell exciting software as my plan. And my wife was like, are you selling lingerie? Like what are my parents going to think? I was like, and so like, I, I've spent $10 on this domain. I didn't get to use it. And that was like $10 I didn't have. And I was all stressed out, but nobody knew about it. Right. And so like all these things you're doing that you're failing along the way, the coolest thing about it is nobody actually sees any of it. I think we think that everyone's seeing it and they're like laughing at us, but nobody actually knows. Um, I've launched probably

three things this year that didn't do well. How many guys knew that? No one did knows. Like you see the email, you see the promotion, you see the ads and then you don't see anything else. And it's like, Oh, maybe did well. Maybe didn't. Nobody really knows. I had somebody told me one time that was the best offer you ever did. And I was like, I was like, I think you might've been the only person who actually bought it because nobody else did. But nobody knows that, right? And so don't be scared.

Like, just put it out there. Like, try this, try this, try this, and just keep trying stuff. And then eventually if you keep doing that, something's gonna stick. And that's when you double down on. And then in five years from now or 10 years, whenever you're like, you know,

again, I'm 20 something years in this business now, 20 years now, all the people are there and think you're amazing. whenever you're like, you know, again, I'm 20 something years in this business now, 20 years now, all the people are there and think you're amazing. And you're like, you have no idea how many times nobody bought my stuff until it worked. And you don't know though. It's like, yeah, it's the whole, the whole philosophy of one funnel way. The first funnel, you don't know which one it is. You're just putting them out there and one's going to hit. And then that's when everything, everything starts changing.

So keep sticking with it, you guys. It's a lot of fun. The game is, anyway, I think it's the best game in the world. I appreciate you guys all. And I can't wait till next time we all get to hang out and do this again. So thank you, Dante. Thank you, everybody.

Thank you, Russell.