The Ryan Hanley Show - How to Make Men Great Again | Adam Allred
Episode Date: July 14, 2025Join our community of fearless leaders in search of unreasonable outcomes... Want to become a FEARLESS entrepreneur and leader? Go here: https://www.findingpeak.com Watch on YouTube: https://link....ryanhanley.com/youtube Adam Allred Website: https://dghboy-assessment.vercel.app/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adamallredofficial/ Ryan Hanley and Adam Allred discuss the importance of reclaiming masculinity in today's society. They explore the role of tough love in parenting, the significance of male mentorship, and the difference between being nice and being good. The discussion emphasizes the need for community and brotherhood among men, the impact of personal transformation, and the importance of self-reflection and accountability. They also delve into the idea that pain and suffering can serve as catalysts for growth, and the necessity of choosing one's truth in the journey of self-improvement. Episodes You Might Enjoy From $2 Million Loss to World-Class Entrepreneur: https://lnk.to/delk From One Man Shop to $200M in Revenue: https://lnk.to/tommymello Is Psilocybin the Gateway to Self-Mastery? https://lnk.to/80upZ9 Episodes You Might Enjoy:From $2 Million Loss to World-Class Entrepreneur: https://lnk.to/delkFrom One Man Shop to $200M in Revenue: https://lnk.to/tommymelloIs Psilocybin the Gateway to Self-Mastery? https://lnk.to/80upZ9
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Women will say, I love dadbods.
No, they don't.
No, they don't.
Just so we're clear, this is all societal pressure.
It's all this fabricated creation to neuter men.
That woman that says, I love my husband's dadbod
is drinking wine with her girlfriends
at the restaurant drooling over the waiter that's in shape.
That's what's going on.
She's watching her vampire diary movies
and watching these hot sultry guys in shape,
and she's getting turned on.
And she's not getting turned on by the dadbod.
Women like dadbods in the sense that they feel safe with it
because they feel like they control that.
Women will say that because they've got the man neutered.
They like it because it puts in control.
But what drives the sexual attraction from women on a fundamental level
is that she knows her man's dangerous, she can't control him,
and it's
something I've been delving a little more into in the show.
It's not necessarily my area of expertise so it's not like all I talk about but raising
two boys, 11 and 9, right? This idea of masculinity, how they fit in the world, how they become the
best versions of themselves, how they align with kind of, you know, I have my tattoo on
my arm is the American flag with an insect cross, right? I believe in essentially Judeo-Christian
values and the initial ethics upon which our country was founded. That's those are the core values that I live by.
How I teach them, how you bring them up, you know, I've wanted to have more
individuals like yourself on the show because I want to learn and I think my
audience does too.
How do we reclaim masculinity if it was ever lost, right?
So, you know, with all that, dude, how the fuck did we make men great again?
Well, first off, Ryan, thanks for having me on the show.
I think these conversations are,
you're asking the right question as far as I'm concerned.
How do we reclaim it?
I think it is something that's been lost,
and I think it starts here with these types of conversations,
you know, like more and more coming together
and having really frank, honest conversations
where we're not trying to be politically correct,
we're not trying to sugarcoat anything, we're just talking.
You know, what we think is true and what's important.
First off, I just have to say,
I'm not really an expert at anything, right?
Like, I don't, I know what I do for work,
I've been in business my whole life, I'm good at that,
but as far as anything beyond that, I'm just a dude,
I'm just a guy going through life,
trying to make sense of it,
and realizing that so much of the things that I've wrestled with and struggled with I'm just a dude, I'm just a guy going through life trying to make sense of it.
And realizing that so much of the things that I've wrestled with and struggled with in this
masculinity phase, this crazy world circus that we live in right now, everybody's going
through the same thing in a lot of ways.
And so I started sharing a message on social media a couple years ago, had no followers,
had no expectation of it getting big or anything like that.
Started talking about these types of things.
Where is masculinity?
What's the state of it?
How do we reclaim it?
And it just resonated, just blew up.
People were coming from all over the world, like coming and weighing in on this and having
thoughts and opinions and a lot of women feeling that as well.
I think we have lost our way as men.
I think we've lost a lot of masculine, not all men.
There's a lot of really masculine good men out there.
I know a lot of them.
Collectively, we are in a really bad place.
And I think every single societal ill
that we're facing right now, everything
is directly or indirectly linked to the weakening
of masculinity in society.
And I don't think it's some sort of natural process.
I don't think this is some sort of natural process. I don't think this is some sort of organic evolution
of human consciousness to erase gender roles,
erase masculinity and femininity,
and create this kind of one gender sort of hodgepodge thing.
I don't think that's natural.
I think it's being fabricated and manipulated
by forces that want to control us and keep us divided
and keep us broken as a people.
So I think we have lost it.
And I think we reclaim it by coming together as men
and starting to have conversations,
starting to act like men, starting
to act like our ancestors.
You know, the dawn of time, men, they gathered in tribes.
This is how they operated.
They sat around the fires at night.
They planned where they were going to hunt,
who they were going to go to war with,
how they were going to keep the tribe alive,
where they were going to migrate.
You know, they had these conversations.
Boys were taken out of their mother's home at early ages in most of these cultures and
they were brought to the fire of men and they never went back to their mothers because this
is how you make men.
It's not a good woman that makes a good man.
I hate hearing that because I think it's such bullshit.
It's other good men that make good men, starting with a man's father.
But in the absence of that or when you move past that into the world and you leave your home, it's gathering in good tribes
with other good men where we hold each other accountable,
we call each other out, we have each other's back,
we share each other's journeys with each other.
And iron really does sharpen iron.
And we've lost that in our modern society, complex society.
We've been isolated.
We've been attacked at every angle.
We've been told we're wrong for the masculine qualities
that we have, and it's a real issue.
We're suffering the fruits of it now in our time right now.
You know, I'll give you a good example of this
as a microcosm.
So my son's playing in a state baseball tournament.
He's nine years old.
And the other team we're playing,
the coach is pretty hard on the kids.
He's not a dick.
Been played sports my entire life,
through college, after college,
been around a lot of different coaches.
He's hard on them.
Hard, but not a dick.
Okay, our coach, good coach, very nice.
They smoke us, okay?
So before the game, parents are going,
oh, you hear the way he's talking to the kids,
and you know, this one
kid made like three errors in a row in warmups and he dropped a god damn it, which I'm not
a big fan of blaspheming, but whatever.
And you know, parents are all, you know, half the parents are like a gas.
And they all look at me because they know I'm a coach too.
I coach my older kids and they're like, you know, what do you think about this?
And I'm like, they fucking need to hear it.
I'm like, he just missed three ground balls in a row.
Like he's starting at third base for his state tournament team.
Like I know he's nine.
I get that.
But like at this age, you know, he should be able to make that play.
And I think it's appropriate for the coach to express frustration at him
at the level of expectation that he has for him and to want him
to achieve more than than giving that mediocre effort that he did.
I didn't say all that. Basically what I said is they need to fucking hear it.
And it like, dude, I've been thinking about it, especially knowing that we were going to talk and
that this this topic would probably come up. I was like, just that idea that all these moms were
were like, were literally like shocked that he would use aggressive language and call kids out on the field.
And yet when it came to game time, they were energized, prepared, they executed, and they
absolutely smoked our team who is treated nice.
And it's this idea that like, we have gotten, we have confused nice for good. And I've seen a lot, there's been a lot of conversations
around this topic lately. And I'd love to know where you fall on that and where that
line is. Because I think this idea of being good versus being nice is something that just
at a base level is completely confused in our society. And we are way too nice to everyone.
And we're way too nice in the way that we interact. And then that spurs so much of this depression and resentment and confusion
and anxiety is because we simply are incapable today of speaking up for ourselves and expressing
what we actually feel in the moment. Because we always defer to being nice.
Yeah, we're incapable of that. Then we're incapable of getting punched in
the face, figuratively speaking, right? Like, so we're trying to insulate our kids. And
there's a lot of data that shows that, for example, single mother homes are terrible
for the outcome of sons, particularly even when you take out the economic advantages
that men generally have over females in separate households. Single mother homes are travesty
statistically. Now, of course, there's a lot of good men that come out of single mother homes. There's a lot of phenomenal single mother homes are travesty statistically. Now of course there's a lot of good men
that come out of single mother homes.
There's a lot of phenomenal single mother homes
that do a great job.
So not talking about all single mothers,
but statistically it is, the data's there.
And it's because of what you're saying in my opinion,
it's exactly this.
I get a lot of single women reaching out to me on my content.
What do I do?
I don't have a man in my life.
And one of the first things I almost always say
is get them in martial arts, get him in sports,
and let the coach coach.
Don't try and protect him from it.
Let him fail.
Let him get his ass kicked.
Let him get his ass chewed out.
This is what boys need.
They need strong, masculine presence in their life.
That's not afraid to just punch him in the face,
figuratively speaking.
Tell them what they need to do.
You share that.
I've got an 11-year-old boy.
Three years ago, he got on a basketball team and
The the first season we just got absolutely eviscerated and the coach one of my buddies shout out to rich
He is hard on those boys something similar to what you're saying. He yells at him. He loses his temper
he's hard on me pushes him, you know past the breaking point and
Over the course of the last he's been my son's been on his team for the last three years
And over the course of the last, he's been, my son's been on his team for the last three years,
a lot of kids have dropped off.
Almost always it's the mothers that are getting offended
that Rich is yelling and I'm with you,
I like to do it, Rich.
You know, it's short of actually abusing the kids.
Go hard at him, man.
Kick my son's ass, dude.
I want him to know that he's got to respect masculine,
he's got to respect the coach on the field,
he's got to be able to take his hits.
Go for it, Rich.
And we just had our last season.
We were one of the best teams in the league.
So three years, our guys, our boys have just progressed.
They went from zero, losing every single game
the first season, to now winning most of our games
our third season.
And I credit it to Rich, his coaching style.
He's hard on the boys.
He knows what he's doing.
He knows what he's talking about.
He's competent.
But then he really just gives these boys
what they need, which is strong,
dominant leadership to get these boys to like turn up
and do what they need to do.
So I'm glad you shared that story
because I think that's really, really important.
The question about the nice guy versus the good man,
they're not the same thing at all.
I think fundamentally when you're talking about being nice,
you have two things are going on.
One, you have a level of deception.
So the nice guy's putting on a front.
They're not actually saying what they feel.
They're not actually doing what they think is right.
They're trying to fill expectations
that other people have given them.
So they're really, really concerned about fitting in.
They're really, really concerned
about what other people think about them.
And so they constantly are trying to conform
to what they think the social requirements of them are,
either in a relationship with a woman or around other guys or church or work or whatever.
And it's a level of weakness.
So we're talking about deception that is also compounded because it is deception, it's
weakness.
And then we try to parade that as strength.
And I went, I was raised very Orthodox religious Christian religion my
whole life one of the things I have broken away from that largely that
theology and dogma I still consider myself Christian I read my scriptures
every single day I believe but breaking away from the religion and one of the
fundamental problems I've had with that is that the church that I went to was
constantly in the business of neutering Jesus,
trying to create a Jesus that was a nice guy, that tolerated everything,
that was sweet, that never offended anybody,
that just accepted all kinds of everything.
And I don't read that.
When I read the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, none of that fits.
And so I'm reading the Scriptures, I'm listening to the people speaking,
and I'm like, this isn't adding up.
Jesus was a man's man.
That guy told the truth at the cost of being liked.
He told the truth at the cost of his own life.
He was killed because he was a truth teller.
Just like all prophets that have come on the scenes that have spoken the truth,
they are killed by society because they're
willing to say what really needs to be said rather than fit in or be accepted.
And the nice guy is concerned with fitting in and being accepted.
The good man is concerned with telling the truth and orienting his life towards
the truth. That's the difference. I, in my opinion.
Completely agree. I, uh, one of my favorite, um, uh,
Greek myths is around, uh, Prometheus.
And for those of you who aren't necessarily, uh, attuned to that, uh, Prometheus stole fire from the gods and gave it to man,
knowing that he would be punished.
And his punishment was he was chained to the side of a mountain
in which I want to say it was falcons or condors,
some very razor-talloned bird,
basically ate his liver out every day for the rest of forever.
And he willingly accepted that punishment in exchange for doing what he thought was
right and was the truth, which was man should have this technology.
It shouldn't be held over them in the form of a fire in this case.
And I think that today, to your point, this idea of fitting in, it just destroys people.
It absolutely destroys them.
And I see it, and I've talked about it a lot on this show, I had an awakening about a year
ago.
I've always been fit.
I always try to keep myself fit and work very hard at that.
And I was coaching my kids' baseball team.
And I actually walked out. He was pitching. And I walk out just kids baseball team and I actually walked out, he was pitching
and I walk out just to kind of calm him down. He kind of had a couple bad batters and was,
I could tell he was a little out over his skis emotionally. So I was just giving him
a chance to breathe and I'm standing out there and talking to him and I'm kind of scanning
the crowd and I was literally the only guy, the only man, who didn't have a dad bod beer gut, right?
Now, I don't necessarily wanna be judgmental,
because look, everyone lives their lives.
But what I saw was an acceptance of an unhealthy lifestyle
because it was the norm for everyone else.
So instead of thinking for yourself and saying, you know what, I get that today having this
keg hard beer gut and being a dad bod is something that like is now held up as like there's like
t-shirts and whole brands built around it, which I think is fucking insane because you're
all unhealthy.
But like to just not think for yourself and be like, here, I'm just going to I'm just going to reduce myself to the meme so that I fit in with everyone else on this normalized idea,
even though I know my back hurts, my brain is foggy, I have no sex drive, I'm not attractive to my wife,
I am not setting a good example for my kids, but it's socially acceptable, so I'm just gonna let it go. And I was like, I will never allow,
and it changed a lot of the focus of this show too,
to this idea, which then one of my audience members
made this for me, bro, which is so cool.
He's like a wood shop guy,
and he's like learning how to do wood stuff.
It's just the letters GNF for those who are listening
at home, and it stands for give no fucks, right?
Live your life.
It's your life, live it.
And so when you're talking, like I'm very interested,
when someone comes to you, guy comes to you, right?
And maybe he's struggling with this stuff.
Maybe he had been kind of indoctrinated by his mother
or by, you know, kind of this postmodern liberal bullshit
that so many men have shoved down their throat in public school, etc
and he he's trying to break out but is caught in that vortex of kind of
Average in and you know this this niceness
How what's the first step to start to crack out of that?
Mentality want to package a little bit on what you were just saying a minute ago and then get to that's It's a great question. One, I hear this all the time too. Women will say, I love dad bods. And no, they don't.
No, they don't. Just so we're clear on that. This is all societal pressure and it's all this fabricated creation to neuter men.
That woman that says, I love my husband's dad bod is drinking wine with her girlfriends at the restaurant drooling over the waiter
that's in shape. That's what's going on. Or she's watching her vampire diary movies and watching these hot
sultry guys in shape and she's getting turned on. And she's not getting turned on by the
dad bod. So women like dad bods in the sense that they feel safe with it because they feel
like they control that. So women will say that because they've got the man neutered.
And so then they feel like I like it because it puts me in control. He doesn't have any
options. I don't feel insecure. But what drives sexual drive, what
drives the sexual attraction from women
on some fundamental level, and this is hard to say,
people tell me I'm wrong all the time,
and I'm telling you this is true,
is some level that she knows her man's dangerous,
she can't control him, and he's attractive to other women.
Doesn't mean he's acting on it.
As a man, I don't support any infidelity.
I believe you stand to your commitments.
You stand by what you say you're going to do.
You take care of those on your watch starts with
your wife I absolutely believe that I'm a traditional man that way but there
needs to be some level that she understands she has no control over you
and some level that you are dangerous as a man for you to be able to maintain a
sexual chemistry with your wife so all of this stuff that's going on right now
is designed to break down masculinity and I want to share one other quick story
on this.
My best friend, he's got a ranch up in Wyoming.
600 head of bison up there.
I've gone up there a bunch of times.
I've gone up a couple of times to harvest a bison.
I shoot a bison, take home the meat.
Awesome experience.
He has the females and the children, the calves,
they're all in one, out in the pasture.
He separates the bulls out from them because if the bulls
are in the herd it makes a whole herd hard to manipulate. It's hard to file
them off to the slaughterhouse or whatever he wants to do with the herd
because the bulls will rile them up. It'll stand up. It'll resist that control
and that manipulation. That's what's happening right now in society. We're the
livestock and the people in power are trying to either neuter the men, turn them
into this nice guy sort of bullshit syndrome stuff,
or completely remove them,
isolate them, tell them they're toxic, they're bad,
whatever else, make society hate them,
because the herd is easier to manipulate
when there's not strong masculinity within the herd.
That's what's going on, period, in my opinion.
That's what I see.
When it gets to the question of what do men need to do
when they start to become aware of this,
and they say, hey, what I'm doing isn't working,
I'm not satisfied. I'm not fulfilled
Whatever it is they're looking at in their life
That's not working the first fundamental thing you have to do is get in a tribe with good men now
That's gonna be hard if you don't have that in your proximity
You know a lot of men don't a lot of men don't have close friends. They've been isolated
They gave up their friends for a career or for a marriage or whatever because that's what they were conditioned to do
But if you want to level up as a man, you got to have brothers with you in the boat
doing the same thing.
You are the product of who you surround yourself with.
We hear this all the time.
And in our modern age now, it's not just who you surround yourself with in proximity.
It's who you surround yourself with on social media.
What type of podcasts are you listening to?
What type of influencers are you following?
What type of books are you reading?
What is it that you're putting into your head? That's coming from other masculine sources out there and the really cool thing in this complex modern society that we live in is
That you can pick whoever you want
Everybody's on social media so you can literally hang out with Joe Rogan every single day or Jordan Peterson every day or David Goggins
Or whoever because you can listen to their content every single day. So the primary step number one
is putting a constant source of masculinity around you,
whatever that looks like,
inundating yourself with that every single day.
And then you start to naturally level up,
your paradigm will start to shift,
your programming that you're putting
in this biological processor that you have
is gonna start running differently,
and the outputs are gonna start reflecting these inputs.
And the really cool thing about this
is it doesn't take an enormous amount of discipline
to like white-knuckle your way into being a better man.
It takes you just making a conscientious,
disciplined effort every day
to constantly surround yourself
with the right kind of programming
so that you can start to level up,
you can start to think differently
when your paradigm shifts, your thought shift,
your emotion shift, when your emotion shift,
your actions change and then your reality
changes.
Yeah.
I was given incredible advice by this mentor.
So I had a health scare in 2017.
And by health scare, nothing serious.
I basically passed out.
I was emceeing an event, second day, closing keynote.
I'm supposed to do a fireside chat.
I get, we're like five minutes from go time, right?
This is the finale. I fucking drop right to the floor. I had allowed myself. I was probably 20 pounds overweight
drinking too much eating shit food
Not mentally taking care of myself not sleeping properly, you know, I
Had this vision of myself back when I was a college athlete and post college and you know, I had this vision of myself back when I was a college athlete and post college and you know
I played three sport athlete in high schools. I had that vision in my head
Yet if I was like it wasn't translating with what I saw on the mirror, which was not the same person
Okay, so I had this moment. I
Basically, I'm on the floor. The guys got to go out and finish the conference by himself, I pull myself together, whatever, it's, you know, it was embarrassing but more of a wake-up call.
And so that's when I really started this journey that, you know, we find ourselves here 2025x
number years later.
But during that time, I met this mentor and he said, and I said, I said, man, I'm fucking
way off, dude.
Like I'm way off.
I'm not working out.
You know, zero quality in my sex life to what you're saying
before. Like just all the things. Just this shadow of who I would like to believe myself
could be. And dude, he looked at me, we were on Zoom, and he said, pick one hard thing
and just do that. Just do one hard thing. Find one thing that for you is thing and just do that. Just do one hard, find one thing that for you is hard
and just go do that for like three months. See where you're at in three months. Just
do one hard thing. And what happened was, as you can probably imagine, you know, I picked
a, I picked a, a, a deadlifting goal. I wanted to deadlift five plates. I didn't make it.
I got very close. I got to 465, but, um, yeah, I probably deadlift five plates. I didn't make it. I got very close. I got to 465.
But I'm good for you. Yeah, I probably could have got there. But to be honest with you,
I started to get some like knee pain and I was like, you know what? There's a risk reward there.
You got a balance. I was like, 43 years old pulling 465. I'll take that as a victory and
get back to just being in regular shape.
But what happened was, dude, and this is the beauty of this idea is like, okay, so that
was hard.
And so what did I have to do to get that goal?
I had to start eating better, had to start eating more protein, had to start taking care
of myself, had to make sure that I got appropriate amount of sleep, blah, blah, blah.
And then all of a sudden, you look up and you're like, and it didn't take me, just for
everyone, it didn't take me three months to get to 465. It took me
like three years. But the process, it was like to do that one thing forced me to do
all these other things. And all of a sudden I pop my head in up and I'm looking around
and I'm like, oh shit. Like I'm like kind of back to being almost athletic again and
like being a man again. And why, why?
And here's where my question comes from.
And how did you feel though?
How did you feel?
Oh, bro, it was like, so I've always been,
I came from a super poor family in a tiny little town
in the middle of fucking nowhere in upstate New York.
At 12 years old, I remember looking around my community
and this is God, to me this is God, right?
I remember walking around this tiny little town
Every male in my life was either an alcoholic drug addict or a criminal as well as all my friends dads right like we were just Getting by like it was everybody I
Remember walking through that town going I
Gotta get the fuck out of here
Like this can't be my life like I gotta get a out at 12. Right. And to me that can only
be that's only God put that thought into my brain because plenty of my buddies that grew
up in that town did not make it out. Some of them aren't with us anymore. Some of them
are in jail. Right. So like that was got to I always had this this like I don't give a
fuck mentality because I had to to get out of that situation if I did what those guys did I was screwed but but I
to your point in getting neutered like when I
When I hit when I got out of high school hit college and got into the professional world
I started believing all this shit that you're talking about right that like you gotta be nice all the time and you have to be
put together and you got to have the nice stuff and you and you know, you you know you don't want to be too aggressive you don't want to be too
intense and I completely lost myself and then in the process of getting after
that deadlifting goal I got myself back because now I'm you know like I'm in my
at the time when I first started I was in my early 40s, and it took me, like I said, three years to get there.
I'm lifting more than 24-year-old college kids at the gym.
And I'm walking around, and my shoulders are back now.
I'm watching women eyeball me.
I'm like, ah, this is fun.
This is different.
Never would cheat on my wife but like um it was just
it was like how did that change the energy between you and your wife
well we ultimately ended up getting divorced I think over it because she liked the neutered version
that's sometimes what happens man and that's what you have to be prepared for yeah I think
that's really important it can go either way in that it's either going to drive you to the punch
line which you just were too afraid to get to you're just going through this process
Like you know
We're supposed to stay together and do all this stuff and I'm supposed to be neutered and I'm supposed to be weak either
Get you to the punchline like this is not where you're supposed to be or it brings that relationship back together in a really powerful way
Yeah, both are the right outcomes. Yes
Dude, I'm so glad you said that.
I think that's such an important point, right?
Like, I think a lot of times guys who would love to go on a journey like this, right?
And they fantasize about a journey, taking on a hard challenge,
whether it's a marathon or whatever your thing is, right?
I think they project out all the potential outcomes,
and they assume some of them are right and some of them are wrong.
And I think that what you just said is one of the most powerful points that you can make on this
topic, which is whatever outcome comes out of the journey is the right outcome. That's a very hard
idea I think for people to catalyze in their brain. I think it's very difficult for them to do that.
Sorry to interject, I want to interject on this. I think this is so important
It's only hard if you don't know what your purpose is of as a man
That's only hard if you don't understand what your purpose is if you're confused with all these other side quests and all this program
You've gotten from society. It's really hard and going through divorce is hard no matter what like I'm not taking away
I went through a divorce six years ago
It was the hardest thing I've ever gone through my entire life and yet it led to the greatest happiest most fulfilled place
I'm at now in my entire life
So it was the catalyst for so many things after the fact but I really I really fundamentally believe this
That a man every man has the exact same primary purpose on this planet and that purpose is
to be the most powerful, best, authentic, vibrant version of yourself.
It's to know that your purpose is to level up.
That's your purpose.
Primary number one.
That's how you're orienting yourself towards this world of entropy where every day we walk
out our front doors, it's storming our own beaches of Normandy and the resistance is
there and everything's going to be attacking us and trying to tear us down
If you don't understand your role is to level up in that adversity and that adversity is good for you and adversity is what?
Makes you stronger and better and it's the only way you can learn
It's the only way you can grow that the world of entropy is designed for our benefit and it's happening for us not to us
And when you understand that's what your purpose everything else will start to make sense
You'll start to see it really clearly. But so many men have been conditioned
that a woman is their purpose.
They've been conditioned by a single mom or by a school
system where the women were the authority figures.
They roll into adulthood.
They're told women have basically arrived
and we're supposed to catch up with men
because we're really dropping the ball.
We're weak.
We're stupid.
We're bumbling.
And a woman's going to help us find ourselves.
And so they start to make a woman
or they start to make these external things
Their purpose and their priority and then everything gets fucked up at that point. Everything's off the rails
Look at the way men are portrayed in every fucking sitcom or show that happens outside of like John Wick
It's the guys a bumbling doofus who can barely keep it together and if it wasn't for the wife,
the house would be on fire and the kids would be, you know, animals running around like
Lord of the Flies.
And it's insane because that's not the household that I was raised in or that I saw.
Right?
I mean, my parents got divorced early, but in both cases, both my dad's, you know, him
and his new wife and my mom and her new husband over time, in both cases, like, while alcoholic drug addict criminals, in both scenarios,
the men, the man ran the house.
And I was blessed that even though there were fuck ups in their normal life, I got a lot
of love.
So I do understand that I was blessed in that capacity.
And not a lot of people come out of situations like mine with love.
It's absent of love, which is probably how I was able to make it out.
But this idea that we're the bumbling ones
and if it wasn't for these put together women,
now granted, I believe it's like,
and I've heard you say that it's a symbiotic relationship.
It's meant to be this relationship
where the woman is as important as the man,
but her role is different, right?
Our role is different than hers, but not necessarily better or worse, right?
Not more important or less important, but wholly different.
And that is the lie that I think is killing us, is that somehow we're just these dumb animals
who need to be pointed in the right direction.
And, you know, if it wasn't for women, we wouldn't know what we're doing.
And it's like, I've actually watched my career, my self-worth, my physical strength,
my relationship with God, my relationship with quick kids.
Since I extracted myself from that, from that marriage three years ago to today,
I am, I am as close to the best version of myself
as I have ever been. Once I took my power back and started saying this is who I am,
take it or leave it. You don't have to like the way that I am, but this is exactly who
I am and who I believe I'm supposed to be. But going back to the thing you said, like,
I would never have chosen that. I would have just stayed that neutered version of myself if she had a midlife crisis, essentially,
and kind of, you know, chose a different path.
But, you know, it just... I would never have chosen that.
I would have been unhappy for another decade of my life if I hadn't been able to extract myself from that situation.
Scary, difficult, challenging. I mean, dude, I know you went through a tough thing, right?
You feel low, you feel dark, you question every decision you made, you're depressed,
you don't even understand half the feelings that you go through.
How did you pull yourself out of that dark moment, right? Like you, you, you, you not necessarily how you got into it, but how did you,
how did you start to pull yourself out of that spot?
Uh, that's a great question. Um, so I, uh, when I, when I,
I did what so many men did in my first marriage, which is that I've always,
I've always considered myself a fairly masculine man, fairly driven, fairly ambitious,
but I really bought into this bullshit
that when you get married, happy wife, happy life,
you pedestalize her, you kind of worship her a little bit
and she can't really be wrong because she's a woman
and so the responsibility was on me
to kind of just constantly try to conform
to what she wanted.
And it didn't make either one of us happy.
It was a terrible frame of,
and I inherited this largely from my religious programming to be honest with you. Society
does it but I was really religious since I was conditioned to think this way. So I one
of the things I'd done tragically that so many men had have done before is I gave up
my friendship group because my wife didn't like him and my wife didn't like him because
she wanted to control me. I don't I don't think this was a conscious thing in her part.
I think it's just baked in there.
They do these shit tests and they see what they can.
Self-preservation for her.
Yeah, they start having kids that are vulnerable
and so what they're gonna do is try and neuter the man
to make him safe for her.
And essentially she's doing the opposite of that.
She's creating a man she doesn't respect
and then ultimately doesn't feel safe with
and then it's a whole thing.
So I did that.
I gave up my tribe of friends
and when I got started going through the divorce process
Was she instigated by the way, so she was the one pushing for it at the end
I was in this now you just go down with the ship. You just stay neutered. Yeah, we have kids now
It's all about the kids and she really started pushing it
What's ironic is as soon as I accepted that as soon as like yeah, this is what we're doing
She flipped and then she was like I don't want to get divorced anymore
But she'd already pushed it to the breaking point.
She'd already gotten a degree with her and get there finally.
And then she tried to play the Uno reverse card.
And I had broken out of that fog that I had been in for so long.
And I was like, I can't go back.
And then it's just kind of funny how the story changes.
So many modern women nowadays not all refuse
to take any kind of accountability.
So then the narrative that she told everybody was that I was abandoning the
family and I cheated on her.
Neither one of them was true.
I fought like hell for cussie with my kids.
I have 50-50 cussie with my kids.
My kids are sunrises and sets on them.
I never cheated on her.
I never even flirted with a girl when I was in a marriage with her.
But that became the narrative of why the marriage was coming to an end.
So one of the first things that happened and just a credit credit to my homies, is that they just showed up.
My buddies showed up.
When I was going through, some of them
were going through divorces at the same time,
so we could kind of share that journey together.
But even the ones that weren't, they were just like,
bro, we're here for you.
So I started hanging out with my friends again.
That was hugely therapeutic for the process.
But the truth is, is at the end of the day
You have to bear your own cross you have to realize you're gonna take a lot of hits in life and that's okay
And what happens so often for most of us is we get really resistant to the learning
We just are going through shit and instead of trying to learn and say what am I what am I being taught here?
What is this adversity designed to teach me we either just
trying white knuckle our way through it or worse we start to become a victim by
it we start to feel sorry for ourselves we think we got the short end of the
stick we feel like we're screwed somehow and we start playing this victim card
which is it's just the worst possible way that you can you orient yourself
towards life is that you've been shortchanged somehow.
So I, you know, but I was in that state.
I was going through this divorce.
I was mad at God.
I was like, fuck you, God.
What the hell was that about?
I tried my best to make that work.
I did everything that was right.
I did all the right things in it, you know, and it didn't work.
What was that all about?
I turned to you, I prayed to you, I asked you constantly why, you know, how to change me to help me be better, to make my marriage work, and none of that worked. Now I'm going
through divorce and I'm mad at you, I'm mad at my whole identity is being shredded apart,
all the things that I thought I knew about myself, my confidence, my money's being taken
from me, all my resources, and worst of all probably in all that, it was my kids. I'm
losing 50% of the custody I have with my kids. I love my kids. So I'm in that state.
And I was, for a little while, feeling like a victim.
I showed up every day.
I put one foot in front of the other.
I had responsibilities.
I didn't quit.
But I was in this state of being angry and bitter about it.
And I went into a constant state of depression.
Every single day, I woke up not wanting to live.
Every night, I went to bed hoping I would die.
I would fantasize about dying every day. I wasn't about to kill myself. I had kids. I had responsibilities. I wasn't like having
suicidal ideations, but I fantasized about it, just being released from the pain that I was going
through. And every single day there was no breaks. And I remember praying to God, just having these
conversations. It was breaking down even my anger at him. I was just getting so blasted by this and I was just like, God, can you just take this away for 20 minutes trying to
negotiate with God on this? Like just give me 20 minutes where I don't feel like shit. Give me 10
minutes, whatever I can get, just some break from this. And I had this really profound spiritual
experience in the midst of that. And I got this voice that came into my head where God was like,
son, if I take away the pain, I take away the learning.
I can't take it away from you. You've got to eat your broccoli.
This is your broccoli. You've got to eat it.
And when that epiphany hit my head, there was a catalyst of other domino effects internally
that started transpiring, and when I realized that, and I believed that,
I heard that voice, and I was like, okay, ah, that's what's going on.
I have to eat my broccoli.
I stopped begrudging the pain, even though I was still depressed,
even though as every day I woke up feeling like my backpack was full of bricks.
I stopped like feeling sorry for myself. And then, you know, I like, you know what?
I got a lot of bricks in my backpack today.
It may take me a long ass time to take care of my responsibilities, David.
I'm not going to quit. I'm going to carry my bricks and I'm not going to complain about it.
And then that started to translate into a state of gratitude.
And I started really, kind of had
to fake it at first a little bit,
but I really started trying to tell God
in my prayers and my meditations,
thank you for this, God.
This is teaching me to be a better person.
This is deepening my humanity.
It's giving me context.
It's giving me resistance and adversity
that I know fundamentally is how I progress and learn.
I really started leaning into that and within a couple of weeks my prayers of gratitude
for this pain and suffering that I was going through went from being faking it to really authentically believing that
and feeling that and having a real profound gratitude.
And then it was like overnight the pain went away. The depression was gone.
As soon as I took the lesson out of that, soon as I leaned into it opened myself up to it
Stop trying to resist it stop trying to feel sorry for myself
As soon as I started leaning into that and accepting that and embracing this world of entropy and taking it for what it's worth
That this is the catalyst for growth
Then it once I got that lesson
I didn't I didn't have that pain anymore
And so it's really the kind of those two things my buddies showing up for me like having my back knowing
I wasn't alone and and then having this recognition that my cross was mine to bear and
That I needed to appreciate the fact that I had even across to bear
to begin with and that that was important for me on a fundamental level and then it really just
I don't know man. It was just like it was like the launch pad. Yeah after that, you know
It we have a singing in my house that I use with my kids. Everything is your fault
Everything you strike out and you think the ump made a bad call. It's your fault
You got a bad grade on a test because you think the teacher didn't teach it right or doesn't like you and over marked your fault, right?
You didn't get this done.
It's your fault.
Everything is your girlfriend dumped you.
Everything is your fault, right?
Everything.
And whether that is technically true or not doesn't matter, you know, and, and
this is something that I kind of, I just had to develop through all my own beats
because I did the same thing, man.
You know, I would look at it and be like, God, I don't understand. Like, I'm a good person. I never cheated on my wife.
I feel like I give everything I have to my kids, everything I have to my friends. I do this podcast. I write this newsletter.
Ninety-eight percent of it is free. I just share everything I have. I just want people to be successful.
And I want to be, you know know I live in abundance and what the fuck
Like come on man, but you know I mean like you're talking you just don't understand and you know
The voice you got is exactly what you needed to hear what I needed to hear was everything is your fault
Stop being a victim right like if it didn't work out the way that you thought it should
Understand that it worked out exactly the way it was supposed to, because everything is your fault.
And when you embrace that, you stop looking at the world as like, oh, Adam said this shit
that made me feel bad, and then I needed a drink to cope with it, and then that drink
turned into five, and now I'm hungover, and I'm not doing well on this sales call.
It's like, no, all of that is
your fault. Adam did nothing to you, right? You know what I mean? He made a statement
that he thought was true. You took it a certain way. You're the one that decided to have the
drink. You're the one that decided to have five. You're the one that woke up hungover.
You're the one that's sucking on the sales call. Those were all your decisions, not Adam's
decision. And that idea, you know, that idea came to me after reading The Obstacle is the Way, which I thought was a really...
I don't always agree with Ryan's politics, but I do think his writing is phenomenal.
And that concept of like, God put that shit in front of you because he needed more out of you than you were giving.
So he needed to put some hard shit into your life so that you could ascend,
so that you could be a better version of yourself.
He needed you, right?
Like, obviously you have been called
to talk about this idea of masculinity
and helping men better understand how to retake.
Like, does that happen?
If you're the neutered version of yourself,
grinding it through a loveless marriage
or a marriage that, you know,
isn't working the way that you'd like it to,
does that ever happen? Do you ever become that marriage that you know isn't working the way that you'd like it to does that ever happen do you ever become
that guy that you are today most likely not no pain is suffering is a catalyst
it is a catalyst for all growth and I actually agree with everything you're
saying I take it a little bit of a different angle on it's all your fault I
say it's all your responsibility because there are things that happen in your
life that aren't your fault somebody does something you have zero control over influence over but affects you in a certain way
That you you had no control over that doesn't mean it's not your responsibility
It doesn't matter whose fault it is right you get so we're saying the same thing
It doesn't matter whether somebody else's fault or your fault. The reality is it doesn't matter. It's your responsibility
What are you gonna do with this?
And the the thing in life is that you get to manifest your reality?
Everything that we see in the external is a reflection of the internal
percent the external is the internal and
The the hard thing with this is that they're really like two truths in every scenario. There's two truths
You can put on a spectrum, but I just say for easy polarity. There's two truths
There's a negative truth and a positive truth. Both are equally true. That's the crazy thing about this
The negative truth is true. Oh, it's hard today. Oh this happened
Oh this happened you can come up with a long list of things about why life was hard
Why it wasn't fair whatever that whatever you want to come up with and it's true
Those things that you're saying in your head are probably true. There's a lot of good reasons to not show up today and
The opposite is true. There's a lot of good reasons to show up today.
The positive truth, it's just as equally true.
And that's why it's so hard to rationalize someone
out of a negative truth into a positive truth,
because in their mind, they're rationally right.
This is true, this is true, this is true.
I can hang my hat on this, this is why I'm getting screwed.
It wasn't my fault, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
That could be true.
But the other truth is that all this stuff is happening for you
It's designed for you to level up and grow and be better
That's also equally true and you can find all the reasons why you should succeed and so you really just get a pick
What truth that you want to lean into do you want to lean into the negative truth?
Or do you want to lean into the positive truth? Do you want to lean into being more?
You know
Submissive and compliant and broken or do you want to start becoming more authentic more powerful and more vibrant you get to lean into being more submissive and compliant and broken, or do you want to start becoming more authentic, more powerful, and more vibrant?
You get to pick that truth in this life and nobody can pick it for you.
But what helps enormously in that process,
going back to something we've already been jamming on,
is who you surround yourself with.
When you surround yourself with men that are picking the positive truth,
men that are taking their hits on the chin like men
and still getting up every day and taking care of their shit and leveling up and getting better,
whether that's in immediate proximity or whether that's guys you're listening to, you know, a phenomenal book that just had a profound impact on me was Jocko Willings,
Extreme Ownership. Like it is exactly what you're saying, that book was just so good for me. It taught me things I already knew, but it just in a more powerful, vibrant way.
But I'm surrounding myself by those types of influences. That's the stuff that I'm programming my brain with.
When I start hearing people complain
about how hard their lives is, no matter how true it is,
when I start feeling that victim energy coming off
from people, I can't be around them.
I'm like, dude, go away, or I'll go away.
I cannot be around that stuff, it's so corrosive.
And it's infectious, because you surround yourself
by victims, you'll start thinking like a victim.
You surround yourself by a bunch of people who think life's out to get them and it's that person's fault and it's capitalism's fault
And it's whatever else everything's fault
Not my fault you will start to think and inherit that negative truth and it will become your truth and it will become your reality
But you get to choose you get to choose they're both equally true. Which one are you gonna choose?
Which one's gonna have the better outcome?
I mean, it's a rash is an easy decision when you pull yourself out of the emotional, you know
Turmoil and you start to look at it from a macro level
It's like well, obviously if I choose to see things positively and optimistically my life is gonna start reflecting positivity and optimism
If I see things negatively, it's gonna start reflecting that so you get a pick man. Which one do you want?
So you're in this dark place and you start to pull yourself out and like all humans, you have setbacks.
How do you, a lot of guys that I know
who've started on a journey,
gotten three months, six months, a year,
sometimes multiple years into a journey
of finding who they are, becoming a more powerful,
connected version of themselves.
And then something happens, a relapse.
They go on vacation and maybe they have issues with alcohol and they drink too much and now they're kind of back into their old ways.
Or they feel like they're fixed and they start hanging out with that group of buddies who is toxic, who is victim, you know, and now they're... Calibrate yourself when you when you find yourself stepping off the path like what is your mechanism for for?
Reorienting yourself back in the direction that you want to be going in when you find yourself in a place where it it isn't that
Great this fit another great question. So progress isn't like this. It's like the stock market
It's gonna go like this and so you have to just know that you're going to take three steps back forward, two steps back.
You're going to take two steps forward. Some days you're going to take three steps back. It's going to do that.
That's that's the world of entropy. When you step out your front door, you're getting attacked.
It's just how it is. The world is against you. And it's not against you because the world is bad or evil.
It's against you because that's the only way you learn how to grow.
Like God designed this perfectly for our development and our progress
And so suffering really is a catalyst for everything and so you have to recognize that like and so one just
Accepting life on its terms instead of trying to get life to fit my terms
This is what I think it should be using words like should or shouldn't this shouldn't have happened to me instead
Like this is what happened to me and this is how it works. This is working or it isn't working
It's not whether it should be working or shouldn't be working.
It is or isn't.
And so I'm going to just accept life on its terms.
Like life is resistance.
Life is hard.
I'm going to get my ass kicked every day.
I step out the front door.
Some days it's going to be harder.
Some days it's going to be easier.
But either way it's coming at me.
That's the first thing is just accepting that in my opinion.
And then the other thing for me was really just learning to talk to myself like I was
somebody that I liked.
Instead of that voice inside that so many of us men are programmed with, that shame voice that just talks shit on us.
You're a failure, you're a loser. Oh look, you can't do that. You thought you had gotten better, but you're really not better.
Look how bad you are. You know, this internal voice that just is so destructive and corrosive inside our heads.
I got that from Jordan Peterson. I really started changing the way that I spoke to myself.
I started talking to myself like it was somebody I was coaching.
I wasn't trying to make everything
look like it was coming through rose colored lenses, right?
Own the fact when you fail.
Treat it like it's a constructive opportunity
to learn and grow instead of like it's game over
and you can't do this.
And I wanted one personal story on this.
Another is kind of spiritual and I hope that's okay.
I'm kind of waxing spiritual on our podcast.
Wax away, my friend.
When I was, you know, like,
even as I got out of this depression state
in the early stages of my divorce,
you're still, you never arrive.
So first off, you never arrive.
You never get there and then it's like,
you know, it's not like a video game where you get to save your progress
and you're good.
It's not how it works.
Every day is this refiner's fire.
And so you just go through that.
So there's no arrival.
There's no getting to a point where I'm good now.
Everything is a struggle.
And that's OK.
You know, my kids, unfortunately, they
go through the divorce too.
And as much as I tried to insulate them
and their mother, to her credit,
wasn't trying to bring this to the kids either,
we both tried to do best that we could by the kids,
which made the divorce infinitely better
than it could have been.
A lot of my friends went through different experiences.
A lot of the shit that you're going through as a man
gets poured out on your kids, unfortunately.
And I was taking my son to school one time
and he said something or did something
and I just snapped at him.
And he didn't deserve it.
He didn't do anything wrong, he was just being a kid.
I'm driving him to school and all the shit I'm dealing with
comes out on him and he didn't deserve it.
And I drop him off at school, I was yelling yelling at him just being a shitty dad in that moment I dropped him
off at school I watched him walk into school with his shoulders slumped you
know and that's what I'd given him for today was a bunch of bricks in his
backpack that he had to carry now that I gave him wasn't his fault it was my
fault I unloaded this stuff on him and I sat there in front of the school for probably like 10 or 15 minutes just I'm a piece of shit I'm a failure I'm
not doing this right I just you know just beating myself up and and a voice
came into my head again I get these occasionally and it was like hey just
skip this part you don't need to do this just just get to the good part where you
start to change and you learn from this And I stopped I actually listened to it and I was like
Okay, I've never thought like that before
But I'm gonna check myself right now and I'm not gonna say another negative thing to myself
Even though there's a lot of good reasons to talk shit to myself. I really screwed up. I'm not gonna do that
I'm just gonna get to the good part, which is where I make changes and I get better
And so I went through the rest of my day, I went off to work, went through the rest
of my day, got everything done, didn't carry all the shame and guilt, which makes it impossible
to progress.
When you're shamed, when you're guilt, shame is attached to addiction, for example.
Like they can scientifically show this psychology.
It fires a lot of the same neurons.
It keeps you entrenched in one place.
So we think shame is good for us because it'll get us to change. It does the opposite of that. Shame keeps you
entrenched right where you're at. So I skipped the shame part and I went right
into work, got my stuff done, went picked up my son from school that day and I
just had a real heart-tart conversation with him and I said, son I'm a kid too.
I'm responsible for you as your dad but I'm going through a lot of stuff you
didn't deserve what happened to you. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have done that. That wasn't your fault.
That was my fault.
And this is why it happened.
And it's not a justification.
But I want you to understand it wasn't, you know, it's coming from a place of me really struggling.
And I took that out on you.
And I'm sorry.
And then I took my son to go do his favorite thing.
I bought him some ice cream.
We went home, had a great night, you know, great evening.
And I've never done that since to him.
I've never talked to him like that since and I was able to skip the entire part of
just beating myself up and talking shit and just get right to the good part of
like and I had to do that by changing the voice in my head. I had to change, you
know, this voice came into my head that I don't feel like was mine. I feel like it
was something that came an endowment, you know, a divine endowment but then I had
to, I had to like hold it together where no, no, I'm not gonna talk shit. That voice
started coming back in. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. I had to I had to like hold it together where no no I'm not gonna talk shit that voice started coming
Back in nope nope nope nope nope. I'm only saying positive things Adam. You're working on this dude. You're doing good
You got a lot on your plate. You're gonna fuck up. That's okay
That's part of the process, but you're gonna get better you're gonna level up
This is all part of learning and I just had to force that positive
constructive coaching voice into my head and I was able to skip all of the nonsense and just get to what really matters which is that we learn from the trials and tribulation we're going through and we get
better and that's what I was able to do with that epiphany that I got.
I get a little teary-eyed there.
I've been through the same thing.
I actually, a couple weeks ago, I tell my kids all the time, especially when it comes
to sports, I literally don't care about the outcome, attitude and effort.
That's all I care about.
If I can teach you anything, it's attitude and effort, right?
And I saw my son not delivering the effort that I would expect to see out of him.
And we get in the car after the game and similar situation.
I kind of unload on him a little bit, right?
And I realize like two or three minutes into this diatribe,
I'm not even fucking talking to my kid.
Yeah.
I'm talking to me.
Oh, this is good.
I'm talking to me.
Yep.
I'm literally, I'm not even talking to him.
I'm literally, in my head, I'm manifesting all the things that I'm not doing, the bad decisions that I'm talking to me. Yep. I'm literally, I'm not even talking to him. I'm literally, I'm in my head, I'm manifesting all the things that I'm not doing, the bad
decisions that I'm making, the places where I'm procrastinating instead of taking action,
right?
And like, and in general, you know, I would like to believe that I'm a pretty intense,
hardworking person, but like, I still have these things inside of me and even things
from my past that I haven't dealt with, right?
Like I played college baseball, which is great,
but I probably never gave it more than 90% effort.
So I have this thing inside me of like,
you never got to see how good you could be
because you never gave 100%.
Now I'm putting that shit on my kid, right?
Who knows if he wants my life?
He don't want my life.
You know what I mean?
He's got his own life.
And I stopped and I just said, I'm sorry, bro.
I said his name is Duke. I said, Duke, dude, bro.
Fucking it's one game, man. Who cares?
I was like, you know, you work so hard.
It's a long season. You're 11 years old.
You play a massive amount of sports versus what we played back then.
Like, dude, you're good. I'm sorry. Right.
And I had and I'm fucking crying. He's looking at me. He. Like, dude, you're good. I'm sorry. Right. And I'm
fucking crying. He's looking at me. He's like, Dad, are you all right? And I'm like crying in the car
because I realized that like, oh my God, I was just willing to give my kid all this.
I love this idea that you said bricks in his book bag or whatever, right? Bricks that he had to carry.
I'm giving him these bricks that he didn't deserve he didn't ask for him and frankly at
Eleven years old I mean you have one game that you're a little off and whatever it's not like he didn't make any plays whatever like
Holy shit like take pump the brakes, and maybe you know you just found some shit you got to deal with right and
It's man. It really wakes you up when you can be self-aware like that. I
Yeah, I feel that dude. I feel that a lot, you know.
And talking to my dad, I've learned a little bit about that too, that some of the shit he gave me was stuff that he didn't deal with, you know?
And I think we do that.
And the break in that cycle, though...
Breaking that cycle, I think, is very, very important for us.
And then it allows, again, it gives us a target.
Now, I know, hey, I got some shit that I got to deal with around my relationship with effort
and this and stuff.
And I want to go back to one point, and I know we're getting close to the number here,
but I just have to touch on this.
I want to get your take.
So when I coach, I coach mostly entrepreneurs.
And when I coach those entrepreneurs, I walk them through what I call Reality OS, Reality
Operating System.
And you spoke about this a minute ago. And it's why I want to bring it up. I feel like so much of this conversation
The ideas that bring the actual toxicity into what we're talking about are
either cultural societal
Expectations ideas concepts etc that are placed us, that have no basis in reality.
There's no receipts for why those ideas
are pushed on us as true.
And yet we accept them.
And when you remove that veil,
kind of you were referencing this before,
different words, like when you just operate strictly
by what reality provides you,
so much of this nonsense goes away.
Because it's like, it's like,
it's not how it works in real life, right?
In real life, the beta soft weak man who can't,
who their female does not believe could protect them,
can provide for them, can have an original thought,
can be that driving force of the household,
whether she needs you to be or not. Once she doesn't believe it, that relationship is toast
from the standpoint of any true connection of relationship. So, okay, so that's reality.
So we can say everything we want about feminism and women's power and toxic masculinity, but at the end of the day, we are seeing more
divorces. We're seeing liberal women are the most unhappy and depressed constituency of
any that you can find in the United States, right? These postmodern liberal women who
live by this feminist mentality, they are the most depressed. So if you're living in reality, how can you maintain that vision, that idea that this
is correct when there's no receipts on the back end to show you that this actually produces
a positive societal progress?
I just can't get past it.
So I guess my last question for you is taking
everything we've talked about into account.
When guys are sitting here they're listening to this maybe hopefully they're
on a walker at the gym or they're just driving or whatever they're doing right
they're listening to this and they're saying shit I I want to be that strong
guy right. What what is the core concept in reality? What's the one concept that they can grab onto to use
as that initial light to pull themselves out of this place?
Right, if you could just give them one concept to say,
you know, again, we're broad stroking,
I know, individual, but you could just give them one.
You can hand them one and say, hey, you start here,
good chance you're gonna pull yourself out.
What would that be?
I'm gonna break the rule that you just gave me
and I'm gonna give you two.
Oh shoot.
There's no rules, there's no rules.
You can do whatever you want, man.
The first concept is that you can get better.
You have to believe that.
Like, too many people are in the victim mindset,
men, where it's like, God just cursed me.
It's just how I am.
It's just how it is or whatever.
And they don't think that they can make any real changes,
because maybe they've tried in the past.
They've tried to discipline themselves.
They've tried to do things differently, and it didn't work.
And so they just feel like this is their journey,
to just be that guy that goes down with the ship.
And life is just misery, and it's just checking off
boxes of responsibilities and being unsatisfied.
And you have to believe, and not just believe, and it's just checking off boxes of responsibilities and being unsatisfied.
And you have to believe, and not just believe,
but know that you can be better than you are.
And here's one way you know that's true.
This isn't like a pep talk.
It's not just something to try and get guys to feel more positive.
If you can look out around you,
whether that's in immediate proximity
or stories
you've heard, people you've seen on social media
or on the internet or whatever.
If you see somebody that's been given less than you
and done more than you, you don't have an excuse.
You can do better.
And everybody can find somebody that got a lot less handed
to them and did better than them.
All of us can see that around us every single day.
Guys that turned up, changed changed their life made it happen
So you don't have an excuse you can be better
And then the second thing is just like what we've been talking about
Too many people myself included in my first marriage when when I was coming out of it shaking my fists at God is things
I've done everything right. Why isn't life working out? We think we've done everything right
We think we've paid the price tag that needed to be paid
for whatever that is we wanted out of life.
And the truth is you haven't.
You just haven't.
The world of entropy doesn't care about your feelings
and it doesn't care about your perspective.
It's just the hard cold truth.
Either it is working or it isn't working.
And so when you say to yourself,
I'm doing everything right and it's not working,
you're not doing everything right.
Just start there.
And that's not to beat yourself up.
That's to start being constructive and saying, OK, what is it
that I can start to do that I can make tomorrow just 1% better?
It's like kind of what you were jamming on earlier,
just picking one thing to just start improving your life on.
1% better every single day for an entire year isn't 365% better.
It's 37 times percent better.
You can start in a single year in six months
drastically change your outlook on the world and therefore change, you know, when you change the internal, the external changes.
Everything in the external starts to change and so you have to take a
ruthless approach to your own self-development and progression and one
that doesn't sugarcoat anything or doesn't give you an out doesn't give you
an excuse you get the excuse because you didn't get what that person had or
whatever else nope this is your life this is your one life you got there's no
reset button so own it be the best version that you can be every single day
and that doesn't mean you have to hit the ball out of the park tomorrow that
means you got to be a little bit better tomorrow. Go be a little bit better tomorrow
than you were today. What does that look like? Well, there's so many different ways to be
better, so many different avenues, but it's going to start by who you surround yourself
with. What type of influences you're putting in your head and you'll start to see those
things that you need to improve on and you'll start making small changes. Jordan Peterson
talks about this. Get up and make your bed every day. Start with that. Organize your
life a little bit. You don't have to go and be like the John wick tomorrow
But start today just making your bed and then maybe tomorrow
It's like getting up 30 minutes earlier than you did the day before so you can execute a little better and start to take some
accountability for your life in the morning and you know
You just start finding little things that you can tweak and adjust and and then it kind of starts working and then you keep doing it
Then pretty soon like you said you pull your head up and you're like
dude I'm deadlifting 465 pounds I feel like I've got this energy in this drive
and yes my marriage is falling apart now but this is the catalyst now for the
rebirth the Phoenix of being reborn from the ashes into something better. God gives
us pain and suffering so that he can strip away our own bullshit and our own
self-deception our own lies and build this into something much more authentic and powerful than we were
before. So just make in those changes, knowing that you can make changes.
It's possible other people are doing it. You can do it and then start to look at
your life really critically. Not, I don't mean shamefully. I mean, like really
analyze what you're doing every day, but what's working, what isn't working.
Start making some of those changes. Don't stop. Don't quit. Don't give up on yourself. Keep making those changes. You
know, what do you listen to at the gym? What do you listen to while you're
driving to work? Or you just listen to music? Or you listen to some podcasts
about people talking about what we're talking about right here. What are you
putting into your head? Start making those small changes and suddenly your
world just turns into a completely different place.
Dude, I wish you didn't have to go to the darkness to be where you are today but I'm so glad that you're here today sharing this message.
I love it. This has been phenomenal. I know you have a program for guys where they can get in.
Maybe just tell them where they can go if they're digging on this and they want to get deeper into your world.
Where can they go to do that? How do they get deeper connected to you? How can they learn more from the work you're doing? Social media platforms, all social media platforms,
Adam all read official.
And then, yeah, we haven't officially fully launched the,
I have a whole, it's more of a community.
It is a coaching program, but it's more of a community
for men to gather where we have weekly firesides that I host.
We have curriculum and material that we cover,
but it's more of conversation,
brothers sitting around the virtual fireside, sharing our journeys with each other.
We have a chat group and we have a whole bunch of things.
We've got like 40 members right now, so there's hardly anybody there, but we haven't even
started marketing yet.
We're working on some software for some accountability.
We got this daily log book.
We have guys that are starting to, they're testing it right now.
We're working out the little kinks, and once we have that, we're going to fully launch
it.
But if you're interested in coming and being part of the party, I'd love to have you there.
The only thing we ask, it doesn't
matter what your background is.
It doesn't matter who you are, as long as you show up
authentically and you're coming here
to be part of the process of leveling up together.
All characters are welcome.
We've had really profound success stories already.
One of our, it's called Doughboy.
Doughboy is a spectrum for me.
I'm masculinity on one end of the spectrum. You have the Pillsbury Doughboy that was harmless.
You poked him in the stomach, he giggled. On the other end of that spectrum you have
the Doughboys of World War I that were willing to fight and die in the worst conditions for
love of God and country. Where are you at on that masculinity spectrum? That's why it's
called Doughboy. We have a masculinity assessment test, which isn't like giving you a score
on how much of a man you are. It's giving you a viewpoint of how you process the world through the seven
different articles of masculinity. Which hat do you put on the most? And then we
do a lot of training and discussion about how to put on hats for different
occasions, how to adjust so that you can be the best most effective competent
version of yourself in whatever set of circumstances that you have in your life.
So you want to become a part of it. The price point is really really cheap. This
is about mission over money.
We do have a monthly membership fee,
but it is to keep the lights on and keep the content made
and keep everything working.
But it's accessible to anybody who
wants to start making changes in their life.
So love to see you there.
Appreciate the hell out of you, man.
Thank you so much.
Likewise, Ryan.
Thanks for having me on the show.
Great discussion discussion man.
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