The Ryan Hanley Show - The Hidden Biochemistry Behind Anxiety & Brain Fog | Eva Hooft

Episode Date: July 2, 2026

I help founders & executives generating more than $10M in revenue find their Easy Mode. Start here: https://ryanhanley.com/subscribe Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/ryanmhanley If you've been on Instagram for more than 30 seconds, you've been pitched a detox. Most of those juice cleanses and 10-day kits are marketing scams. The real problem is that your body's natural drainage pathways are backed up, and you're carrying a toxic load that has been stacking up for decades, sometimes since before you were born. In this conversation, I sit down with holistic detox coach Eva Hooft to break down the root causes of chronic fatigue, brain fog, and anxiety. Eva walked away from an international modeling career after privately fighting chronic illness and depression, and she now helps people turn their body's own systems back on instead of chasing symptoms.  Connect with Eva Hooft: Website: https://www.evahooft.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eva.hooft/ The Realignment Program: https://realignment.evahooft.com 10-Day Total Reset: https://realignment-method.com/10dayreset Follow Ryan: Website: https://ryanhanley.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/ryan_hanley We get into the truth about heavy metals hiding in your water, food, and clothes, why fasting can make you sicker if you're already depleted, and why parasites are a signal rather than the enemy. We cover the lie you've been told about cholesterol, including my own story of refusing Lipitor and dropping 60 points anyway.  Then we get into the part that surprised me most: how your minerals shape your personality, and how fixing your gut can change your anxiety, your focus, and your mood. Everything Eva shares is her opinion and experience as a coach, not medical advice. Take it as a smarter set of questions to bring to your own health. You don't have to accept waking up tired. When you fix the biochemistry, you fix the mind. This is the way. Hanley. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

If you've been on Instagram for more than 30 seconds, you've been pitched some form of a detox. The process of detoxification is something that the body does naturally. As a society, we're just more toxic than we've ever been. It's just like a marketing scam or a marketing term just to sell you products. Just because it feels good doesn't mean it's actually supporting you. They're literally everywhere, right? Like tap water has heavy metals. Like if we walk outside and we're breathing air, we're breathing in aluminum. I was seeing things that weren't there. Literally, it can change our perception in the brain chemistry.

our bodies actually naturally have defense mechanisms to make sure that these parasites don't overgrow. Eva, thank you so much for taking some time with us today. I'm really excited to chat. Likewise. Thank you for having me on. Yeah, so I'm going to be very honest. This is going to be a very selfish episode

because I'm like armchair, amateur, all the stuff that you talk about. I'm like so interested in. but but with no background. So that's why I love the podcast because I get to bring on amazing experts like yourself and then I get to pepper you with questions for a while and learn a bunch of really cool stuff. So I want to start with the idea of a detox. If you've been on Instagram for more than 30 seconds,

you've been pitched some form of a detox in some form of ad in your stories or wherever. Maybe just break down for the audience at a high level. what is a detox? Why do we need these things in our lives today? Like maybe just let's start really high level on this idea of detoxing. And then I want to kind of bring us down to the ground and get a little nitty gritty as we go through our conversation. Yeah, that sounds great. So I think it's important to understand first and foremost that the process of detoxification is something that the body does naturally, right? Like it's essentially like in the simplest way to put it, you know, we're coming into contact with things that are, you know, not supportive to our bodies,

whether we talk about, you know, like actual toxins in the form of like heavy metals or microplastics or, you know, other things. But sometimes it's even toxins that our body or like organisms in our bodies produces itself or even just toxins that our body produces as the, you know, a byproduct of some sort of process internally. And so typically, like, let's say we look at like 100,000 years ago, you know, our toxic load in our day-to-day life was a lot lower than it is today. So, for example, you know, we have a lot more toxins in our external environment, but also one massive toxin that I think

people don't really understand is like the amount of stress that we have in our day-to-day life, right? So stress in general is going to have massive impact on the entire body, including that natural detoxification process. And so over time, due to all these like inner and external factors, the natural process of detoxification tends to slow down. And so what I kind of look at with detoxification is essentially just as simple as, you know, we're packaging harmful substances into less harmful ones and then hopefully excreting them out of the body, right? So that's as easy as we can make it.

Now, what happens is that if we are in a chronic state of fight or flight, which, you know, many of us wake up, we check our email first thing in the morning, maybe like we're eating foods that are not good for us. we're having this idea that we always need to work or perform or whatever the external stress is, that natural process actually slows down and a lot of those toxins end up backing up. And so, you know, by the time that we're 20, 30, 40 years old, chances are that we've probably been in a state of chronic fighter flight for at least a couple of the years, you know, that we are on this planet with like the high stress load these days and also

the additional toxic burden that we phase now versus like 100 years ago. And so those combinations essentially kind of lead to the body being in a place where it can't really deal with all the toxic load and the stress on the liver. Now, you know, there's so many things that give stress on the liver, right? We haven't even talked about like medications and alcohol and things that, you know, we normalize these days. Like even, you know, things like taking painkillers quite frequently. Like all of these things add additional stress to the liver. And at some point, the liver is like, all right, I can't deal with all this toxic load, right? So then the body has to package these toxins and store them for, you know, potentially a later time where the body does have time and energy to start to kind of move these toxins out of the body.

And a lot of these toxins, depending on if they are fat soluble or water soluble, they can be stored in fat tissue or even sometimes in our organs, our soft tissues, our nervous system. And especially this is true with heavy metals. So over time, you know, we start noticing symptoms maybe 20, 30 years down the line. and we try to look for external circumstances that caused our bloating, our fatigue, our brain fog, you know, our lack of energy, whereas the way that I look at it, we're just dealing with toxic overload from 20, 30 years, sometimes even pre-birth, because we also inherit a lot of toxins in utero. And so it kind of just leads down to this whole epidemic, I would say, of, like, toxicity that kind of stacks up generation after generation. And that's why I think today, you know,

we're facing so many people on Instagram saying, like, you need to detox. We need to have these types of detoxes because it's true, like as a society, we're just more toxic than we've ever been, you know, like I said, like 10, 20, 30 years ago. And I will just add like a little thing here. I'm sure we'll go into this later as well. Like not everything that people call detoxing, like doing a juice cleanse or, you know, buying a detox kid is actually detoxing your body. Quite often it's just like a marketing scam or a marketing term.

just to sell you products. Because the way that I look at detoxification, the best thing that we can do is just to turn on your body's natural detoxification process again or to kind of upregulate that in a way that's supportive and that honors the body's natural time. And so that's really where that differentiation comes in

versus doing something that's supportive for your body versus just something that's like a marketing scam that you spend a couple hundred dollars on that isn't actually going to do anything. So I'm going to butcher this word, but would like, autophagy, auto... Yeah, could you say it again?

Atopathy. Atophagy. I always butcher that word. So this would be, like, that's one of the natural processes of removing. I know that has something to do with removing cells, but it also, like, it finds the cells that are kind of, that have toxins in them and prioritizes that. And like, this is one of those natural processes that we have in our body.

Yes and no. So autophagy, right, is well researched in terms of like longevity, cancer research, stuff like that. So it's essentially, yeah, what you're saying, like the body's natural way of cleaning up like dead cells and cells that are, you know, no longer need it really. However, in that process, right, what tends up happening sometimes if we are fasting a lot, for example, because that's how we induce autophagy mostly through fasting or or things that kind of get us out of the digestive mode. However, oftentimes when we do that. process when we're already depleted, we might actually make our issues worse. So I think like autophagy and fasting and like doing those like very in a way like depleting things on the body can be extremely helpful in the right set and setting. So it kind of depends on, you know, the individual like what their mineral status is. It depends on how their nervous systems optimizing because like the process of fasting itself is actually very stressful in the body. Right. And we we talk always about like hermetic stress, like good stress and bad stress. And, you know, I personally believe that we need a good balance of both because we need to, you know, increase our window of tolerance when it comes to stress. However,

if someone's already pushed over their edge, any stress, even it could be labeled good or bad, is going to be bad stress to that person, right? So I like to say, like, when it comes to detoxing, like actually, like the process of like neutralizing harmful substances, packaging them, like excreting them, that actually needs a lot of co-factors in order to properly work. So it needs certain amino acids, you know, certain vitamins. And so oftentimes when we're in a fasted state, we actually lack a lot of those nutrients. So yes, in a way, it could be that you're, you know, removing harmful substances from the body one way or another. But you have to have both.

Like you can't just get your body into autophagy and fast all the time. Like it's not going to allow your body to release like heavy metals that are in the brain and the nervous system. because we actually need adequate nutrients in order to release those. That makes sense. So basically that is one tool of several in kind of cleaning your body and cleaning your body out. And just to kind of reiterate what you said for myself, when we're fasting and if we're doing maybe longer fast than say a standard 13 or 16, when we're getting into say a 24 or 36 or longer, if we have excess toxins in our body in that case because we could actually, you're saying we cause more harm because now there isn't the, we're not replenishing behind it, right?

Is that what it is? Now all of a sudden, like, those, they have more opportunity. Is that like a period of time where you might feel worse and then you get better? Or is it like, should we deal with an overload of external toxins in our body first before we start looking at things like longer fasts or whatever for longevity purposes? Is that, like is there a lot? is there a routine to it, a process to it, or is it you can kind of do everything at the same time? Yeah, there's definitely a process to it. Like when, and I always tell this to my clients, because I have

so many clients who are already in like the health and I'm on the space. They're like on a ton of supplements. They've tried a lot of things, right? And they're still like, well, I still don't feel great. Like, how come? Like, I've done all the protocols. I've done the fasting, right? And so oftentimes I tell them, like we have these things, like even as sauna, a sauna can be super beneficial to one and harmful to another. And so we have to understand, like, where our bodies are at, like, how are our drainage pathways, which you can talk about in a moment? Like, are they open? Is there congestion? Because if we have kind of like an issue with, like, one of the processes in the body, we can do something that's really helpful for someone else and it can actually poison us, right?

So I look at fasting almost the same way. Like if someone is extremely robust, their nervous system is regulated, like if someone, for example, has been on like a standard of merit, diet, right? Like, they eat, like, all these seed oils, like, they're super inflamed, but they've had, you know, like a calorie surplus for many years. They have excess weight, like all of that stuff, like maybe potentially, like, if that person doesn't have a lot of stress in their life and they have pretty good mineral levels, like them going into a fast is going to, like, decrease inflammation, probably reduce a ton of their symptoms, right? So, like, we're talking about person A, but the issue is that most people who come to me, like, they already are,

like super healthy on the outside, right? Like they're working out. They're like they're probably like high achievers. Like they're doing so much in their life already that actually is adding more stress than someone who's just like on the couch all day and watching TV like quite quite frankly. And so oftentimes these people that have done a lot of things that have done a lot of diets that are very selective with their food because of like whether it's like emotional stress, nervous system stuff from like the past or even just current circumstances, these people tend to come into my program's quite depleted already. So if they start fasting, right, yes, they might feel that initial benefit of mental clarity because, you know, the gut isn't, especially like if the gut

has some imbalances, like if you don't eat food, of course you're going to feel better because those bacteria don't start releasing these toxins, right? So you might assume you're getting better because your inflammation's lower and you might feel more mental clarity and less fatigue. However, just because it feels good doesn't mean it's actually supporting you, right? Like, it's the same thing with certain substances. Like you can have a glass of wine. It feels really good, but is it actually supporting you? So I kind of look at what is this person's body saying on all levels and what do they actually need? And quite often with most people, they actually need more nourishment, less stress, more rest, like more time in nature, you know, like working on their circadian rhythm,

optimizing their nutrition. And oftentimes that's the thing that actually really gives the body enough energy to start healing those like chronic symptoms, even though, you know, we're meant to believe like, oh, just fast and all your problems will go away. So yeah. Yeah, that was like, I can't remember, maybe it was late 20 teens. I remember fast. I mean, not the fasting is a new concept, by any regard, but like really kind of roared back into popularity and everyone was fasting and, you know, the rocks on Instagram talking about

his daily 16 hour fast. Everyone wants to look like the rock. So now we all got a fast 16 hours. and so before we go too much deeper in specific topics, I'd love for you to just maybe label or discuss, like, what are actual toxins? Like, what, like is it? Because I think, you know, as someone who, like I said,

I probably live in the not non-expert, but like amateur, you know, weekend health guy, you know what I mean? Like I'm super into it, but not enough to ever give anybody advice. And then, you know, I have a lot. but I have a lot of friends who don't take care of themselves super well. Maybe used to be athletes, you know, but all of a sudden you get, you know, I don't know how old you are. You get to your late 30s or late mid 40s and life gets super hectic.

You know, I'd hate to show you what my kids' sports schedule looks like and how much free time I have to work on myself. So, look, what are actual toxins? Like, I know when those guys, you're just thinking like heavy metals or some like, you know, getting lysol in your, you know, some chemical in your system, but I know that those aren't the only ones. And then could you also maybe talk a little bit about where like parasites and how they're different because I see a lot of stuff about parasites these days too?

And then, you know, we can get down into some more tactical things to do after that. But like what are these actual toxins and parasites that we're trying to remove? Yeah. So, right, like a toxin is really anything that doesn't really serve a purpose in the body and has some sort of influence on how. the body functions, right? So, I mean, there's so many toxins, like, way too many to name, but I will just kind of start with, like, the categories that people probably recognize the most, right? Like, heavy metals being one of them. And of course, like, people think that, like,

we get heavy metals from, like, very specific things, like, you know, the mercury fillings or things like that. But I think what people don't realize is that they're literally everywhere, right? Like, tap water has heavy metals. Like, if we walk outside and we're breathing air, we're breathing in aluminum, right? Like they're, they're everywhere. They're in car exhaust. They're in plain exhaust. Like, they're in basically, like, tons of things, like smoking cigarettes. If you've ever smoked cigarettes, you're going to have, like, a quite high capium burden. Same with, like, weed. Weed is really high in, like, certain pesticides that have heavy metals. So any foods that contain certain pesticides, quite often, there's heavy metals in fertilized, certain fertilizers as well.

There might be heavy metals in the soil, which is why some plants, even organic ones, will have higher amounts of heavy metals. So cacao is actually a really common one. So how many people eat chocolate or cacao, you know, like maybe have like a protein powder with cacao in them, almost always as it contains some levels of like cadmium and lead. Same with, you know, crops like rice. Rice is another really common one to contain higher levels of arsenic, conventional chicken, conventional peanut butter. Even certain seed oils are cut. I think it's nickel. Don't quote me on that. But like they're just like in the industrial process. And they're kind of everywhere. just like end up in our foods. And so, you know, we might think that we're eating healthy

because we're eating whole foods or whatever and maybe you have some like fancy protein powder and green smoothie powder. And little that we know, you know, we're consistently poisoning ourselves of these heavy metals. And so this is why I'm obviously really glad that more and more people are talking about it and, you know, companies are being more transparent about like their third body testing and heavy metal testing. But yeah, heavy metals, I would say is like up there amongst, the ones that are like most dangerous to our health and this is particularly because they don't just like pass through the body right like the body doesn't just like naturally eliminate them quite often but it actually retains them especially in the phase of mineral deficiency so these

heavy metals essentially hijack the same mineral uptake patterns or pathways and so let's say that we are deficient in zinc and the body now starts to kind of upregulate the uptake of zinc but certain heavy metals that through a process called ionic mimicry kind of mimic zinc, for example, at like the atomic or, yeah, like the level. And so then it absorbs more of that heavy metal and now retains that. And so the issue is that like in the phase of these mineral deficiencies, the body will actually use the heavy metal to function, like at a lesser function than, of course, when it has the mineral, but better than when it has nothing. And so this is also why it's so dangerous when people start to suddenly chelate or actually pull aggressively like these heavy metals out

of the body because of the body is still deficient. A, it's not going to want to let go of this metal. So you kind of get all those like really intense symptoms. And B, you might be potentially like making your issues worse by pulling a metal out that your body is actively using. So there's a lot of information there. Like one of my mentors, Clark Engelberg breaks this down super well. And same does like Dr. Paul Eck and Dr. Wilson's research has a ton of. information there as well. So I would say heavy metals are the ones that we need to be, you know, quite cautious of. But then we also have things like perfume, you know, how many products that you put on your skin or even just like soaps that you use or things like that have unnatural perfumes. I think anything that's labeled as perfume can have up to 3,000

undisclosed chemicals in it. Like it doesn't need to say that. So there's no regulation around what is in perfume. A lot of that is endocrine disrupting. It actually like has. a ton of effects on the bottom or on the body, especially if you spray perfume, you know, right on your thyroid or on your skin, which is a big organ of absorption. And then, of course, we have things like, you know, even microplastics, PFAs, BPA, so how many of us are, you know, wearing our Lula lemons and our allo yoga, you know, sports gear where every time that we wash that, it releases microplastics. Every time that we sweat, we absorb those microplastics in our skin. And then, of course, you know, when you're cooking in the kitchen, you know, like

the teflon pans, like maybe you're cooking on like aluminum baking sheets or aluminum foil. You might be using, you know, plastic Tupperware. So it's, it's kind of like it's everywhere. And it's, it's, you have to put a lot of time and effort in to avoid it. But the way that I look at it is like, rather than becoming a maniac about avoiding every single, you know, microplastic and every single metal and every single like toxin out there, if we have resilience and if we are in a state that we are like fully nourished and we have good mineral reserves, we're actually absorbing a lot less of these toxins and our detox pathways are going to work better. So you like remineralizing your body, you regulating your nervous system, you working on yourself is directly going to have an impact on how many toxins you absorb.

So like one person that might not be, you know, doing mineral balancing or eating good foods, especially if you're fasting all the time, you're actually absorbing more toxins in a depleted state. So, like, you know, people think they're doing all the right things, but they're absorbing more versus someone who is actually, like, eating really good quality foods all the time, like, you know, eating high nutrient-dense foods and stuff like that. So that's what I would say I look at toxins at. Okay, there's a lot of scary stuff in there. Now, how are parasites different?

because I read that the issue with some parasites is not that the parasites in your body is that it releases toxins into the body and it's the toxins. So what is, what is, maybe what are parasites and why do you see people talking about, you know, like if you have a cat, there's like a 90% chance you have this parasite

and if you have, you know, animals and, you know, and should be, be cognizant of parasites, do they fall in the same type of vein of negative impact as toxins in our body? Are they two separate things? Completely separate. So this is actually where I think a lot, there's a lot of misconception in the space. There's really two schools of thought here, right? So I'm not sure if you're familiar with like the term terrain theory and germ theory, but essentially like our entire Western medicine system is built on the idea of germ theory. So it's essentially says that like a parasite, a bacteria, or some sort of external factor is the cause of disease, right?

So if someone gets like COVID virus, they all have the same symptoms and illnesses. Or if someone gets exposed to this parasite, it has to be the cause of XYZ disease. And so there's another school of thought that actually was basically, it started up right around the same time of germ theory. There's a lot of good research around this. I would highly recommend people to look into this. And it essentially says that it's not the external thing that's causing the disease or the symptom, but it's the internal. So let's say like the hosts conditions of how their body essentially is functioning at the time, whether or not disease is expressed.

So for example, right, two people can walk into a moldy apartment. One person immediately gets a headache. They get, you know, crazy neurological symptoms. And the other person doesn't notice a thing, right? One person might be exposed to a virus or to a bacteria. And one person gets sick and the other one doesn't, right? So this kind of explains how we can't say with certainty that one organism causes one type of disease. And so we start looking at, okay, well, how come person A and person B respond differently?

And that's oftentimes everything that's going on inside the body. So again, comes down to the nervous system, right? Like how is their nervous system functioning? What's their mineral status? Like how are their detoxification organs or the digestive organs? Like how are they working and functioning? And so the way that I look at parasites, a little, you know, side brand here to kind of get to the point. So parasites essentially in the same way that when we look at a forest and we like take a scoop of the soil, there's going to be a million microorganisms in the soil, right?

And so the health of the soil determines which types of organisms are. are there. And so the same thing happens with our microbiome or with our body, for example, right? So there are certain species that, well, all bacteria are opportunistic, but especially pathogenic organisms or opportunistic. So whenever the body needs them to essentially overgrow or start to take up more space, because something's happening in the body, they will. So there's a ton of research, and I would, again, recommend people to look into this for themselves, that, for example, mold can bioremediate certain metals or toxins. Same thing with Candida. So how this shows up in the human body is if we have an excess amount of toxins, if we have a very low oxygen environment, whether it's because, you know,

we have like dysfunctional breathing patterns, we have, again, like nervous system issues, like our bodies can't actually uptake and transport oxygen efficiently, like whatever, the reasons are, if we have a low-oxygen environment, an environment where there's a lot of excess waste because the digestive system isn't functioning optimally, there are going to need to be a certain organisms that actually help offset that toxicity, right? Like, they have to kind of digest what our bodies can't digest for us. And so that's how I look at parasites. They actually serve a purpose in our bodies by consuming a lot of the excess waste and heavy metals, the same way that you might see parasites on like a decaying animal or you might see mold on a fruit that's decaying, right? It's actually just

helping down and breaking down essentially dead and toxic tissue or dead and toxic cells and waste. And so when we start to attack parasites directly, we're actually not dealing with the reason why they're there. And this is so often why you see, you know, a lot of these people on Instagram promoting, oh, do this parasite cleanse two or three times a year because they're going to come back, right? Because you're not actually dealing with the reason. and why someone has parasites. And I would go as far as to say that like every single organism is on this planet will probably has a parasite. Like if you're living and breathing and you're like walking around in nature, you're eating vegetables. Like you're 100% going to have parasites.

But our bodies actually naturally have defense mechanisms to make sure that these parasites don't overgrow. Like our stomach acid is the first thing. Right. If it's acidic enough, whatever like bacteria or parasites we encounter, parasite eggs, it will actually need. neutralize or kill them. However, if we are chronically stressed, if we're mineral depleted, if we have a congested liver, our stomach acid also goes down. And so now we don't have that first line of defense, right? We don't have enough bile. Like our microbiome is all out of whack. And so when we have certain imbalances, these opportunistic organisms can overgrow, take up more space. And essentially, yes, start to release endotoxins because they also release toxins. So it's kind of this,

like vicious cycle because now they're releasing more toxins. We get even more depleted. We get even more dysregulated. And of course, you know, they end up overgrowing. So the way in my experience and my opinion that we break that cycle and we actually naturally start releasing parasites is not by starting to fear them and starting to say, oh, we can't have pets and we, you know, we can't drink water. We have to like, you know, wash our vegetables and kill all the parasites with ozone. Like, great. If you can do that, awesome, but like it's not going to happen all the time, right? You're going to be at a restaurant. You don't know what they're washing their vegetables with. And so the best first line of the fence, again, is to regulate the nervous system, to make sure you're getting enough minerals,

to restore that natural function so that the immune system actually kicks into gear and it can deal with the toxic overload. And so this is one of the reasons why, you know, I have clients sometimes do emotional release practices, which is a whole other topic, but like essentially them releasing stored emotions from the body or they're starting to work on learning to set boundaries and they will start releasing parasites in the process of that because, you know, the stored emotion or the lack of boundaries and the people pleasing was a thing that actually like kept their nervous system in a chronic state of fight or flight. So when they start to release that and work through that, right, the body has more vital energy to start to deal with some of these parasitic infections and

whatnot. So yeah, it's quite a fascinating topic. Yes, it is. I want to put a pin in mental versus physical for a second because the last kind of, we'll say, 30,000 foot topic that I want to discuss before we start to work our way down is, like, what are the symptoms? If someone's listening to this, is it facial bloating, red face, is it constipation, is it brain fog, is it all of these things? Like, if I'm sitting here and I just feel off, maybe I just, This is the first time I've ever really listened at any extended amount about even the concept of detoxing, which I wouldn't put past people.

And that's not a knock on anyone listening. You know, I just get that everyone can't research everything all the time. So if they're sitting there and they feel off, they know they're not right, but they don't really know and they haven't. What are some of those symptoms that if someone came to you, you'd say, hey, you may have an issue here with toxins. This may be something, you know, you're overloaded. in one way or the other. What does that look like for people? So believe it or not,

it's like every single symptom you can imagine has some sort of connection to this. And the reason is that when one thing is off, the entire system is off, right? So if you look at blood markers, for example, the body likes to keep blood markers extremely tight. So by the time that you go to your doctor or, you know, you know, wherever you get your labs done, function health or whatever, and some markers are off, it's not just because like, oh, I have low iron, I need to take an iron supplement, right? Like, if we look at things like 100 years ago, do you think our ancestor were taking like a bunch of supplements and pills? Like, no, there's actually something that's up in the entire iron transport or regulation system because other things are off. And so everything that we're talking

about, like, and I'm sure there's like one or two things that I'm not thinking of that might not be connected to this, you know, but typically if one thing's off in the blood or, you in the body or you're noticing brain fog, fatigue, whatever the thing is, like something in the system is of that we can start to work on when we're looking at this like root cause way of healing. And so I don't even really love the term detoxification because it's so overuse. You know, people think that like if we're starting a program together, they're going to be on some sort of cleanse. Well, for me, it's actually the opposite. Like I actually get people off of those cleanses and into actual systems that kind of optimize the body, which for some people might just be

like, you know, regulating their nervous system and, like, eating more good food. Like, that in turn can literally change someone's entire path. So, yeah, if someone's listening and, like, I'll just kind of run through some, like, really common symptoms that we get because I was just doing a master class and we had, like, a sheet with some of the symptoms people come to us with. And I like to say we don't discriminate. You know, we have people in our, like, actually a lot of people in our programs with tons of different autoimmune conditions, like, even to, like, certain cancer diagnoses, which I personally believe cancer is 100% connected to the body being too toxic and wanting to store certain toxins into tissues or kind of, same thing with autoimmune

conditions. I don't believe that the body will try to kill itself. You know, again, like there's a lot of like mineral imbalances, toxicity involved in these conditions typically. But yeah, like I would say like from anything from like bloating digestive issues, constipation, Crohn's disease, departiculitis, like anything gut related, you know, high cholesterol, typically I see is really connected to liver congestion and excess amount of toxicity as well. So when we start to clear that up, cholesterol goes down. However, in general, cholesterol is a whole conversation in and of itself because we are 100% lied to when it comes to what good cholesterol actually needs. I want to come back to that topic. I definitely want to come back to that for sure.

Yeah. So, you know, there's a lot of these types of things that like we go to our doctors or whatever, and we get like one or two markers that are off, like I mentioned, right? Like, low iron, low ferretin. Like, I used to have chronically low ferretin. It was like, like, three, six, nine for like six years straight. I would do everything, right? Like, take iron supplements, eat more rep meat, cook out of cast iron pans. And until I started regulating my minerals, I started detoxing aluminum and actually optimize my copper because I had a lot of like, like copper dysfunction, like I had a copper IUD, I had hormonal birth control for many years, so I had copper toxicity and simultaneously copper deficiency at the same time, quite interesting.

And so because of that, I had very low seruloplasmin, which is a really big part of like iron transporting utilization. And so my ferretin was actually chronically low. And it started to raise when I just worked on optimizing my entire mineral system, not taking an iron supplement. So, you know, we get those people, we get people with like all sorts of like anxiety, like mental things like muscle activation syndrome, histamine issues. So essentially like the system being extremely sensitive and kind of on high alert all the time. We see that a lot in our clients. Sometimes it's like very emotional, like emotional volatility or, you know, things that we think are not related to our physical body, but they actually are. And then of course, anything, you know, that's related to like,

food sensitivities, like allergies, like that whole side of things and like skin issues we get a lot, like psoriasis, eczema, acne. Yeah, we like I said, we really don't discriminate. We see everything across the board. And quite often if someone's like, hey, can you help me with this? Like, you know, there's been a handful of situations that if someone has like a stage four cancer diagnosis, I like to work alongside their oncologist because, you know, there are certain things that are above my pay grade, but it's still really good to understand, you know, when we work together and you go through these processes, you know, what's possible. I had a client once who, her husband unfortunately died, but he dealt with like a stage four cancer diagnosis. He had tumors

all over the body. And essentially what they did with him is go through this detoxification clinic where they were doing essentially everything that we do in our programs, you know, like regulating the nervous system, liver flushes, cleanses, like all these things. His tumors within three months shrank, like 95% of his tumors were gone within three months, right, of him detoxing his body. And he ended up making the decision to, for the last 5% go into radiation therapy and, you know, unfortunately die during that. But it shows, you know, how efficient, like, detoxification can be in the phase of these things. And I've had so many stories of people who ended up going through, like, detoxification and, like, like, like, At one point, I was working with a client who was doing everything to get her tumor markers down.

And she just did this really simple gut detox for like four or five days that we put her on. And her tumor markers went down like so much that, you know, she ended up making a ton of content around that. So it's just really cool stories that we tend to see from these processes. And I'm just very excited for it to just grow and for people to become more aware of it. Yeah, I firmly believe that, you know, in some number of years from now, we will look back on chemotherapy and radiation. as treatments for cancer and realize what we were actually doing to people. I mean, yeah. In many cases, the best thing we have today and the people that fight through and have

beat it using those, God bless you, and it's amazing. But when you think about what you're actually, what they're actually doing to your body, is they're like trying, basically what chemo is like, we're going to kill you and hope the cancer dies before you die. I mean, that's essentially the tradeoff that you're making. And to think that you're just flooding your body with massive amounts of chemicals and toxic chemicals and just hoping the race to death as the cancer dies first is it seems very brutal. You know, I'm hoping there will come a day. And it seems like things like peptides, you know, some of these, you know, MRI stuff that they're doing now.

It looks like there's a lot of potential fixes that aren't as highly toxic to the body. But man, that's the chemo stuff. the cancer stuff is crazy. And I agree with you that I think a lot of it is it's your body's way of dealing with stuff that shouldn't be there. You know, obviously I can't put words to it the way you can. But it just, that's the way it feels to me. So I want to come back to cholesterol for a second real quick because, and I'll set the

stage and then I'll pass it back over to you. So I've had hereditary high cholesterol my entire life. Starting at eight years old, I've gotten blood work every six months since I was eight because my cholesterol level has always been high. And about two and a half years ago, probably, I went in to see my doctor. My doctor I'd had forever retired, passed me off to a new doctor, doctor does blood work for the first time,

sees the high cholesterol, and he's like, we got to put you on Lipitor. And it was probably 265, with a, you know, maybe slightly elevated LDL, I guess, so the stuff that's not as good. But, you know, this is the part that concerns me. And I have told this story in the past on the podcast, but her first instinct was just right to Lipitor.

Right, bam, go right to Lipitor. And I was like, I don't want that crap in my body. Like, I know that it can help people, but it also has major side effects. At the time, I'm only 43. I'm like, I don't want to be on this for the rest of my life. I'm not a big fan of pharmaceuticals to begin with. And I said, well, hey, if I don't have any plaque in my body,

body, then I'm really, is it a concern? Like, is this number a concern if I don't have any plaque? So she agrees why she didn't recommend the plaque test to begin with is most likely because the commission wasn't high enough. But, you know, I go zero plaque, come back. And I said, well, what other options are there? She has no idea. So I ended up finding a hormone specialist, because I also had an issue with testosterone for a little while that I fixed. And the hormone optimization specialist put me on terseptitide, a microdose of terseptitide and a microdose of tessimoralin. And then regulate, you know, work on the diet.

You know, and frankly, I eat pretty healthy. It's just always been high. And I watched my cholesterol drop like to 205 within three months. and I think about things like like peptides and and some of these other alternatives to taking a pill every day as a way to work on these things. So one, I would love for you to level set kind of some of the lies, as you mentioned, about cholesterol. I want to leave that to you. And then what are you seeing outside of the statin or just, you know, maybe if you're eating, let's assume. assume the person is eating a reasonable diet, right?

This isn't because they're just wolfing down, you know, crappy, processed, you know, McDonald's every day. Like, what is the lie about cholesterol and how should we kind of start to recalibrate our thinking around it? And then what are some of the ways that you deal with cholesterol with your clients? And, you know, is this related to toxins? And how do we do it without taking Lipitor? Yeah, so it's such a good question, you know.

So I think first and foremost, like we have to understand that I think, I don't know which year it was, but the good levels of cholesterol actually were changed. So previously, I think it was like the cutoff was like 220 and then they lowered it to 200. So like it's like they don't even really know what good cholesterol is, right? So you're going to see some clients that have cholesterol like at a little bit of the higher level like 220, something like that, like LDL a little bit elevated. But if their hormones are like fantastic, right, this is a very important picture. to understand because sometimes the body actually has higher cholesterol because it's needed for that like good hormone production. And so with a lot of clients that have, you know, like these cholesterol levels that are flagged, but like not extremely elevated, like let's say 220, like I mentioned,

I actually think that that's a great thing. Like I actually think that low cholesterol is often an issue. And this is also why when we're just like only focused on lowering a number, we don't really know the implications that that has on our body's long term, right? What happens to our hormones? what happens to like all these other processes in the body. And I also will say that like I really see. So first of all, bile are, you know, liver's digestive fluid is primarily made up of cholesterol. And so quite often people that have some sort of like bile insufficiency or like stagnant bile, colostasis, liver congestion, however you want to call it, whichever term you want to use,

these people end up having higher levels of cholesterol in the blood as well. And so I end up seeing when we clear up that liver congestion, oftentimes the cholesterol drops. And liver congestion, you know, it's such like an undiscussed topic, but, you know, you mentioning that you had this at eight years old. Like you can be born with liver congestion if, you know, you're, again, get if your parents have liver congestion, if potentially like they had higher levels of heavy metals or other toxins. Sometimes also, like, for example, things like estrogen also help create more liver congestion. and this is oftentimes why I think, you know, a lot of women end up having like more anxiety because they retain more copper, why they have more gut issues because they're all in birth control, which like massively influences our microbiome. So there's a massive connection with like the liver, cholesterol, but then also all these other parts of the body, right? Another theory that I know a lot of people in my space talk about is how cholesterol and plaque in and of itself, but we think about the idea of that, right? Like, why would the body build a plaque inside the arteries?

Like my idea there is like if we are highly toxic, the body will quite literally try to protect the arteries by creating a layer of cholesterol to not have the whatever is going through the blood. Like if the pH is off, if there's certain toxins in the blood that could actually damage this arterial wall to quite literally protect itself. And so again, like detoxification, I would say is like one of the main things and tools here that we use.

to essentially support people in that process. And then, of course, 100%, there's mineral imbalances that make, that have like a massive influence on this. And again, like certain toxicities. I will say that with peptides, because this is, I was talking about this on a podcast as well, I typically have a little bit of a different outtake on this than a lot of other people do. Just because, again, like, I think there's certain peptides that are incredible, right?

Like I have some clients that are on peptides. I've used them in the past. Didn't quite work for what I was dealing with. at the time. And some of my mentors love them, some don't. The way that I kind of look at peptides is like, what are we using them for, especially with the GLP ones when it comes to like the functional medicine space. I know they're using like a low dose of them a lot for, you know, things like that, things like Massal Activation Syndrome and stuff like that. I like to just always pose the contemplation of like, okay, well, why was the body expressing the thing that it was doing in the first

place, whether it is, right, like mass activation syndrome, high inflammation levels, high cholesterol. And just because we are using the peptide to kind of suppress that symptom and maybe change some other things in the body, are we actually dealing with the reason why that was happening in the first place? And I think that both can be true, right? We can take these peptides to support the body and if we look deeper at the reason why the body was expressing itself in that way to make sure that we're not neglecting that to cause further implications later in life. So, yeah, I always always like to look at, you know, especially knowing how much these mineral imbalances and heavy metals play a role. It's like if we're taking a peptide, for example, to lower inflammation,

but the cause of the inflammation was actually a high toxic burden, the peptide isn't going to release a toxic burden, so we still have to do that work alongside it. I do agree that, you know, certain peptides can basically lower the inflammation or support some process in the body so that the body has more energy to start to clear up some of these other things, right? I'm 100% agree with that, but I do think it's important to mention because I do think that the functional space right now, just with anything that's booming, like fasting was booming, you know, like whenever we were talking about like late, late 20, for me it was like 2015 to 2020. I was fasting all the time, right? And now we're kind of learning about, oh, it's actually not good for everyone or there is, there are certain

implications. And so I just tell my clients always to be a little cautious when they're jumping on trends that are like mass, you know, like promoted by everyone in the space. So I'll leave there. No, I think that's wonderful advice. And I completely agree. I had a buddy who reached out to me because I mentioned on the show that I was taking the Zepetite, which is a GLP1 for those that, it's a second generation for those that aren't aware. OZempic would be the, would be the gen one that most people have heard of. And so I mentioned that I was taking on the show and that I was really enjoying the results. It wasn't about weight loss at all.

It was three things. Targeting visceral fat, particularly. I wanted to remove the food noise in general. And I had found I struggled with fairly severe ADHD. diagnosed, not self-diagnosed. Not that should matter, but I feel like I have to say that these days because freaking everyone says they have it. You know what I mean?

Just because they have a little energy. And I don't use it as a crotch. This is true. And I found that treseptide in a microdose actually allowed, because I had played with like, as I got older, I probably have always had it since I was a kid looking back of my life. But when I needed to, when I was younger, I could like pull it back in whenever I.

wanted, right? So my brain would be like, shooting a million directions, but it was like, I need to like focus up on Eva right here. Like, I need to be present for her. I need to have my brain on what she's saying, listening, and I could just write down, right, and get rid of it. And as I got older, and I've gotten older, despite continuing to try to take care of myself very well, I found I didn't have that ability. It's like, if you've ever seen the movie for love of the game, like towards the end of the game, you can't clear the mechanism anymore. That's a deep baseball reference, but the, so I was searching for solutions and I tried, you know, my doctor also wanted to put me on Adderall and I tried that. It's fucking amazing. Horrible for you, but it does all

the things it's going to do. So not that I recommend you taking it, but having a little sample bottle for when you need to get some shit done isn't the worst thing in the world. Um, not medical advice. Remember, Ryan is not in the medical field, not medical advice. But I found that the GLP1, there was research around its impact on focus, on like, not that you can harness discipline, but on your task, like being, like getting more activation of your dopamine centers around tasks, which is essentially what Adderall does, right? Like milks your brain, your Adderall receptors so you feel good about tasks. Okay.

So that was a very long contextual diatribe to say at this point. I said it on the podcast. I had a buddy who was slightly overweight who was like, thought it was going to be this miracle, he goes out, he gets a prescription from his doctor, starts injecting himself and, you know, two months later, he's like, it's not working. And I was like, well, okay, why?

Like, what are you, did you, are you working out? Well, no. Well, okay, well, did you change your diet? Are you still, like, pounding beers and eating cheeseburgers and shit all the time? Well, you know, maybe a little less. I'm like, well, it's like, if you don't, it's not a, It's not like injected in your body and your body just sucks in and all sudden you have a six-pack abs and you look like an adonis.

Like that's not even close. Like it's it is a it is one other tool that if utilized properly in conjunction with all the stuff you're talking about, right? And I think what I'm hearing from you and I really like this about your philosophy is that there isn't like a thing. It's not like if you do this one thing, everything changes. It's we have to be, what I hear you saying is we need. to be cognizant of all these different mechanisms, which does take some work, but at the same time,

like you get one body. So if you're gonna focus on anything and maybe spend a little extra time thinking about something, this is probably the right thing to think about. And that's the part that I feel like unfortunately, when you get these trends doesn't get communicated, right? It's like GLP-1s and the Tessamoralin and Samoralin and these, you know, these types of things,

they're, there are, you can waste them. The one, they're expensive. And two, if you're just injecting them and not changing your body and not changing your lifestyle in these other ways, they're going to do literally nothing for you. It's like lighting money on fire.

They're additive mechanisms to a system that's functioning close to properly, not these like, inject yourself in the stomach with this thing. And then all of a sudden your life changes and you have bulging muscles and six-pack abs, you know, if you're a dude and that's what you're going for. So how do you, like when you're working with someone,

how do you get them to this more holistic approach? Because I know you said most people are healthy. You tend to get more healthy people. But again, let's take that. We'll just say right down the middle, average American who is busy, maybe they have a couple kids and they've let them sell, you know, they don't have as much time. You're only going to gym once a week,

and maybe they slip a couple of kids. cheeseburgers in there and cookies a little too often and not that they're like obese but they're not the way you know maybe they got a few more toxins a little extra weight like how does that person who who struggles to keep up day to day how do they start to develop this holistic approach to to their health and the toxins in their body and like just getting rid of just the simple things like the brain fog and some of the chronic inflammation fatigue which which is unnatural Like, how do you start to wrap your head around this? Because what I get from people is like, dude, I don't know how you do it.

Like, how do you keep up with all this shit? And I'm like, I'm not even an expert. So like, how do you recommend people do that? Yeah. So I will just preface, like, most of my clients are not healthy. They just try to live it or think they live a healthy lifestyle, but they're oftentimes extremely sick, right? It's ironically, usually the people who have the healthiest lifestyle that they're most sick

because they're like, you know, so obsessed with like trying to do everything perfect. That's a good point. Thank you. Yeah. So I think like the first thing to understand is that, you know, we, when a client comes in, I'm not just looking at their physical habits, right? Like I'm not just looking at like, okay, like, you know, this is what they're doing

every single day. But it's also like their identity. It's what matters, their priorities, right? Like if you are working with someone that exactly the case that you just described, right, like they're busy, they have a couple kids, like they're, you know, eating cheeseburgers or are they going out to eat a lot? like the first thing that I ask my clients quite often is like, okay, like what are your priorities and what are your goals, right? Because if you prioritize like having fun on the weekend and like having a

couple beers over your health, then it doesn't matter what we're going to do with your physical body because that's always going to be number one for you, right? So we have to look at like your inner reality essentially of like how you look at the world, how you look at your physical body. And that first needs to change, right? Because the willingness of change has to come from inside. It's not like, hey, my friend, this is literally why we don't take clients on with this particular profile who are like, hey, well, my so-and-so said that I needed to do this. And so I'm here to do it, but I don't want to do it, right? Like, if you don't have the willingness to do the thing, it's not going to stick, right?

Like, it has to come from inside. And so what we really help our clients with is just getting to that point of like, okay, like, what's the thing inside of you that's holding you back right now? Like, what's that inner critic, the inner voice or maybe even like, in my, my case, I used to deal a lot with this when I was having, you know, eating disorder habits when, you know, there was a part of me that wanted to eat, like, really healthy and just, like, not overeat. And then there was this part that was a rebelling against that and just, like, would eat cookies late at night and would, like, snack, like, at midnight in a pantry, right?

And so what I needed to do is actually do something, what I call somatic work or emotional release work, where I essentially would talk to that part of myself, which is quite always often a younger part of us, that feels like she needs to rebel against the thought. which is myself now, the authority that says, I'm going to eat healthy. And so there's this inner conflict that ends up happening in our nervous system, in our inner worlds, where there's a part of us that always feels like it needs to rebel against the part that wants to live healthy or have certain goals. And this is what I would say happens with like 90% of people with, you know, like intentions at the start of the year. There's a new part of them that's like, I want to be

this person that's living healthy, that has these habits. And then there's the younger part of them that says, well, I want to do things this way and I don't like discomfort and I just want to choose the easy path, right? So there has to be some sort of dialogue that happens between those two parts for them to reach an ultimatum that actually says, hey, we both want the same thing, which is we want to feel heard, seen, loved, and we want to have a good experience. And so within that, like, just shifting that inner awareness sometimes can change people's habits. Like I remember I had a client who was in his 50s, he like drove from like, he lived somewhere and like, middle America, like basically where no one knows about healthy eating, you know, like he worked

in construction. Um, and he was an alcoholic and he ended up driving to my place. We did like a couple of these like emotional really somatic sessions. And after one session, we essentially just extremely deeply went into the reason why he drinks, which ended up being some sort of like guilt and shame that he carried from like his dad's side generations down of like feeling like he wasn't a good man and whatever, like crazy story. he released that trauma and he didn't drink again, right? So it's like sometimes it's not like we have this idea that it's really hard to set goals

and it's really hard to do these healthy things. But as soon as we make that decision internally and we understand that it just clicks in, it's just like we get that momentum, right? We'll move forward. So we oftentimes try to get to our clients like, why? Like, why do you want this? And like how can we make that the number one priority that's going to move you forward in this process? And then typically, like, just making it simple, right?

Like, it's not about doing things perfect. That's what I always tell my clients. Like, just because I give you, like, hey, this is what you can do in the morning. This is how you can eat. Like, if you eat out twice a week, but you're doing the rest, like, you're doing better than you did before. So you're going to see improvements, right? Like, if you sometimes fall off or you, like, end up scrolling on your phone all day or watching movies and eating snacks at night, like, that's okay. Like, you're not going to mess up your progress.

It's just like, sure, it might slow you down like 2%, but it's not going to set you back in any way. Like I like to get away from that idea that we can have a setback in life. So when we reduce that pressure and we give people the opportunity to be more flexible and we just tell them like, hey, just take these supplements, try to do this the best you can, try to eat in this way. Like even if it's just eating some more vegetables, stuff like that, like awesome. They're still going to see results. They're going to have a good time and they don't feel that pressure. and over time, the healthier that we get, the better the choices are that we make, right?

It's like, yeah, so. What I think is wild is that I think a vast majority of the population doesn't even know what it feels like to feel good anymore. I think they've masked with food or some sort of toxic behavior, not necessarily toxins, but toxic behavior, that I don't even know if they can wrap their head around or even like visualize or experience in their brain. Like remember what it felt like to just be, like feel good.

Like not wake up tired, not wake up with brain fog, not look down and see, you know, body and places that they don't necessarily want to see. You know what I mean? Like they don't, they don't know what that feels like. So I sometimes I think it's hard because it's been so long since they felt good that they, they don't even know what the goal is. They like want to quote unquote feel better. But it's like sometimes they can't even rationalize like what that is. And I feel like that's very sad. And a lot of it I think has been, you talked about the lies around cholesterol, like so many. So many. So many.

aspects of our of our physical health um disconnecting physical health from mental health right I love I love this and I really you know I want to finish on this idea of how these two things work in conjunction because I love this about your work and I I agree in like it feels right to me right I obviously don't know the science behind it that's your place but like it feels right to me and the disconnection of mental and physical and acting as if they're two separate things. Like, you know, you talked, you mentioned before, and this kind of, like, a high level of copper can make you more anxious, right? Like, I don't think people realize that.

Like, do women who have copper IUDs realize that they have to be very careful? And you mentioned it, and I only know this because having dated women for as long as I have, that this can give them anxiety and that if they're not managing certain minerals in their body, that it's not their fault they're feeling anxiety, actually. Their body is producing anxiety as a reaction to what's going on inside. So now you might be going to a therapist thinking that you have something wrong with, you know, mentally with yourself,

when really it's just your body's not intaking or processing certain chemicals or certain minerals the right way. and there's so little talk about that. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, how many of you are? There's just not that many people like you out there. I mean, maybe in your community, you can name a bunch. But I'll tell you, to the broader world,

there aren't that many people talking about this. It's one of the reasons I love doing this show is just helping spread these messages. But talk, just let's finish on in our conversation here today around this idea of like, you know, and go wherever you want with this. But like, this idea of interconnecting, and your mental and your physical and starting to think through how you can just feel better overall.

Like if, you know, that kind of keystone pitch on this for people because I just, you know, not perfect, but I do work very hard at this. And I think for 45, I'm in pretty good shape. I'm in pretty good health. Like, I wake up every day. I feel pretty good. All things considered, like, you know, obviously anything can be better, but I think I'm pretty good. I just have so many friends that they just simply don't understand.

Like they don't understand what it feels like to wake up in your mid-40s and pop out of bed at 5.30 a.m. Like feel good, ready to go. Like, go get after it at the gym. Like, they're struggling to get out of bed at 7.30, 8 o'clock and get their kids on the bus. And I would love for those who have the inclination, as you describe, the self-motivation to get there. would love for them to connect, go down the path with you and start to feel better. I just,

I think our whole entire society would change if everyone just felt a little better every day. Yeah, this is such a, like you said, like people don't discuss this topic enough, right? So I'll start at what you were mentioning earlier about like the ADHD type symptoms, right? So when we look at ADHD and again, like for people that like to go into literature, like definitely would recommend them looking into the work of Dr. Pollack and Dr. Wilson, where essentially we're talking about like mineral balancing, right? So we're talking about like the mineral status in someone's body, certain metals, certain minerals. And these metals and minerals also have certain qualities. So copper, for example, like we already kind of discussed, like it excites the brain.

So it can create more anxiety essentially. And so we see also that copper is a very feminine mineral. And so like this is also typically why women are higher in copper and men are higher in iron because iron is a very masculine mineral, so or a metal. And so essentially like we start to see that these minerals essentially shape our personality. And this is where it gets really interesting because things like autism, ADHD, like any sort of like what we call, you know, like mental disorders tend to have roots in these mineral imbalances and certain like biochemistry that the brain then produces. And so this is also why, like, mineral balancing, um, it's been studied so well for kids with ADHD and autism with incredible results, like literally like incredible, because a lot of

these tend to be these heavy metals that actually create these like, like you said, right? Like this brain that just like starts to have like chaos or like these chaotic impulses. And so rather than saying like, oh, there's something wrong with me, we can start to say, oh, there's something wrong with the biochemistry that's happening in my body. And what's underneath that is oftentimes the certain minerals and metals that have an influence on our brain. And so one thing that I started to observe in a lot of clients is especially in relation to mercury. So people, you know, potentially like through vaccine injuries, like because there's mercury in vaccines. It could potentially be through eating a lot of fish, right? Like I have clients all the time who say, well, I only eat, you know,

wild fish like once or twice a week. And their levels of mercury are through the roof, especially tuna. I literally don't even touch tuna. Like, I don't think I'll ever do again because I know how toxic it is in mercury. Mercury fillings. So if you have those silver fillings in your mouth, or maybe your parents had those, that was my case, right? My parents had those. So they were passed down in utero. So I had more toxic metals in my body as a kid. And so, yeah, like, as a kid, you know, I had learning disabilities. I had eczema. I had like all of these things that you would assume, right? Like, how can a kid get such things while it's beginning? because, right, we're, again, we're born into, like, whatever toxicity or mineral pattern

our parents kind of inherit to us. And so when we look at this and specifically in relation to mercury, I'll just kind of tell the story of this client who had mercury fillings. And I've seen this with multiple clients who have had mercury fillings. A, oftentimes the parasite burden in these clients is a lot higher. In her case, she also had a root canal, which root canals is a whole other topic we could go down to, but they say that 100% of all root canals are infected, and they actually almost always contribute to massive inflammation and infection in the body. In her case, they found about 20 different parasites in her jaw, like all sorts of bacterial overgrowth because of this infected root canal, and she had all those mercury fillings.

Now, she ended up full-blown hallucinating. Like, she was seeing, like, dark forces show up in the flesh in her living room, thinking that people were haunting her. Like some of my mentors have stories that when they were going through lead elimination. So again, a heavy metal elimination, that they were quite literally convinced that the FBI was after them. They would start hiding in their rooms. And I've experienced this myself when I was going through these copper dumps, again, because I was on birth control and had a copper IED. I was seeing things that weren't there.

I would wake up in the middle of the night thinking someone was at my door. Like literally it can change our perception and the brain chemistry. And so I would, you know, like it's a bold statement, but I think that almost all, if not all, cases of people with mental illnesses, with like, you know, like schizophrenia, bipolar disease, like there's probably a correlation. If we had their mineral tests and we could see the heavy metals in their body, we would probably see a massive correlation there. And so that's, of course, just one of the parts. But even if we think about the gut and the brain connection, right, there's an awesome book that I read like 10 years ago, I think it was, I think it's literally called the gut brain connection. And it talks about this relationship between our microbes and, again, like our brain, our serotonin, right? So about 90% of our serotonin is created in the gut. So if we have imbalances in our gut, if we have, like what I said, right, liver congestion that leads to overgrowth of a certain bacteria that has more of these pathogenic bacteria overgrow and not as many of the

good bacteria that help create the serotonin, we might feel. feel depression and anxiety. And what happens, right, is like as a child, maybe we're put on antibiotics. It wipes out our good microbiome. Now we get anxiety and depression. There's a ton of information out there. Zach Bush does a lot of research on this as well, how I think it was like one course of antibiotics can, like can increase our risk of major depression by like 40% of just one round, right? So it's, we start to just see like the relationship to what we think is us, right? Our, our brain, our mental state versus like, is it really just a relationship or a result of how our physical body is functioning at that time? And the beautiful thing as well, and, you know, when we

look at like meditation or like working with like our mind as a way to heal ourselves, it also goes both ways. Like we can do things with our minds that actually end up signaling things to the body that it can heal. And this is why we see sometimes, you know, people in Joe dispens a retreats or these meditation retreats, they have these spontaneous remissions, or suddenly they can walk again after not being able to walk, because the mind in and of itself is also extremely powerful. So it's, is this bidirectional relationship that if we understand that, you know, we would optimize our bodies, I believe, more

so that we can really alter our brain chemistry and the way that we see the world and look at the world, we can become more positive and therefore, you know, do better in our job, do better with our finances and our relationships. and the other way around as well. Like we'd probably spend more time, like really working on improving our mental focus, on meditation, on all these things that we know improve the physical body and our energy as well.

So it's 100% a bidirectional relationship. And yeah, I mean, we could say so much here, but I think that's good. Eva, this has been a tremendous conversation. I could do another three hours with you. I find this topic fascinating. And I think it's so incredibly important because, as I said, I just know too many people who live day to day with this acceptance of symptoms that I think with even a marginal amount of attention applied to things like mineral imbalances, the toxins

were taking to our body, exercise, meditation, you know, some of these things could remove those and, you know, at least remove them in large part. And how much better is your life? You know, I mean, how much better is your life when you don't feel like you're looking through or thinking through a fog every day or you don't look at your face and it feels bloated and puffy and you don't feel athletic or, you know, you don't have to be, I just don't believe that you have to fade off into the night as you get older. You know, I'm fighting, I'm going to fight a tooth and nail, and it's not going to be done through pharmaceuticals and chemicals as much as possible.

I do personally put peptides in a slightly different category than pharmaceuticals. at least some of them. You know, I think you have to be very careful, guys. Obviously, I'm not a doctor. This is not medical advice. So anything that I say take is what I do, but not a recommendation. Eva, I know there are going to be a lot of people

that want to get deeper into your world. What's the best way for them to do that, both your content and if they're interested in working with you? Yeah, so I share a lot on social media. So that's just my first name, dot my last name. so at eva. hoft. And, yeah, there's links to free masterclasses. I'm going to be putting up a lot more free content there.

I also have a podcast myself. It's not fully active right now, but there is about 25 episodes or some 20 to 30 there for people that want to dive a bit deeper into that as well. And, yeah, everything, you know, I'm very, very responsive on DM. So I try to answer every single DM that comes in, even though sometimes that means that's like 100 a day.

But, you know, so if there's questions about the work, You can ask me that either on email or through the M's and also the link in bio will get you to my website where all that information can be found. Well, I appreciate you. I appreciate you out here sharing this message. I love it. I think it's important. And just thanks again for your time. Yeah, thank you as well.