The Ryen Russillo Podcast - 2021 First-Round QBs and Mahomes Stories With Todd McShay. Plus, Russell Wilson May Have Actually Said Something.

Episode Date: February 12, 2021

Russillo shares his thoughts on the notion that Russell Wilson could be traded (1:30), before he is joined by ESPN’s Todd McShay to discuss 2021 draft QB rankings, and why he has five QBs going in the first round (13:00). Finally, Ryen answers some listener-submitted Life Advice questions (42:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

great pod today Todd McShay's newest mock draft is out all offense all quarterbacks all the time and that's what we'll be doing and an open on Russell Wilson and we'll close with life advice for the weekend before we get to McShay today and we'll do some life advice there at the end you know what with McShay coming up because if you haven't seen it his mock draft is out it's all offense at the top five quarterbacks go in the top 12 he has trades in there as well and the first reaction is like you're gonna be kidding me you're gonna have five quarterbacks go this high so I need to update the QB bus rating thing or ranking whatever it is I don't know either apply in this case. I did it a couple years ago when I was still at ESPN,

but I went through the last 20 years of first rounders, and I didn't want to make it super complicated. I wanted to make it pretty easy, kind of a common sense consensus on quarterbacks' careers because when five go in the first round, two, maybe three are going to be terrible. It's unbelievable. And it's a 50% bust rate. I really believe that. So I'll go back and look at it again. Depending on mood,

maybe the percentage will change a little bit because I was being pretty fair. I wasn't trying. I wasn't doing a confirmation bias approach here where I was like, let me try to find a way to prove my point by anything that's close that goes in my favor and the category that I want it to be. I was trying to be open-minded and fair about it. So it was bust, great career. And then the guys in the middle, I didn't even count as bust. And even with that, first rounders, about a 50% bust rate. So you've got this excitement if you don't have a quarterback right now and you're like, hey, make sure he has his dialed in with the quarterback. So we'll go over all the different QBs and some of the issues there. And there's so much to do on it. I think it's going to be QB heavy, and we know we'll have Todd on again

probably a couple more times before the draft even starts. So that's coming up. But first, I want to talk about a different quarterback, and that is Mr. Unlimited, Russell Wilson. Russell has been one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL now for years. In the beginning, it was about the defense, maybe entry point. It was harder for others to understand, like, are you really paying attention to what this guy is doing? Because in the beginning, when you'd look at him versus some other young quarterbacks, they weren't asking him to go out there and lead the team. And now

what they've been doing, transitioning away from that, is it's been the Russell Wilson show. And I would hope everybody understands that I've defended him or I don't even feel like I've had to defend him. I think it's just me going, you know what? He's my MVP one year. And then I think Brady kind of ran away with it at the end. I just think he's great as a quarterback. I love him as a quarterback, but I was very early on the Russell Wilson is a weird talk. And, and I guess the better way to describe that would be his post game things. Like we get it, you know,

there's, there's not going to be a ton of depth there, but it's so predetermined what he's going to say that it lacks any authenticity whatsoever. And by the way, it doesn't matter because if you're a Seahawks fan, I'd much rather have the better quarterback than the guy that has a touch of authenticity to what he's saying. And I've never quite understood it, but I remember being so early on it that people were pushing back for me like a pioneer

on this one. I just was like, no man, there's something's weird here. Like this is weird. This is weird. And I know that Van Pelt loved him. I think there was a Wisconsin, maybe even a wheels up connection there where Van Pelt would be like, you're wrong. You're wrong. And I just like, no, I just think like none of it matters. None of it impacts the football part of it, but there is something in the way he processes every single comment that is so constructed, so predetermined that I just think it's weird. I just think it's weird.

As an observer of things, which is essentially my career, I've made that observation and I was on it early and I was on it so early that people were just like, why are you rowing to the West Coast? I'm like, I just want to see what's out here, fur trade. All right. The reason I do all of this setup here is because I thought his comments on Dan Patrick's radio show were revealing, not for anybody else, but incredibly revealing for somebody like Russell Wilson. Now, this has made the news now for a couple days, and I can't tell if this is a big deal or not a big deal. If it were someone else, I would think, ah, it's not that big of a deal. a big deal or not a big deal. If it were someone else, I would think, ah, it's not that big of a deal. But the headlines have been that, you know, Russell Wilson's criticizing the offensive line, which by the way, if you've ever seen him do any single post game, anything whatsoever,

the speed with which he has his mouth moving and his brain operating, he'd be like, oh, the offensive line, like it's incredible. So let's get to the Dan comments first, because he asked him a few different things. And Dan is terrific. I still think Dan, going back to when I was just a fan listening to the radio, he's the best with big-time athletes, because there's a level of respect for Dan as then the face of ESPN and now still very successful. But Dan's just good. He interrupts people in a better way.

He'll steer the conversation. Because, I mean, look, if I were offered Russell Woods, I would have passed for years. I'm like, it's just not that interesting to me. But Dan Patrick is terrific at this. He always has been, continues to be. And he's a big reason why we got anything out of him. And part of it was, hey, what's up with the offensive line?

You've been sacked 400 times. You're going to go down as the most sacked quarterback in NFL history. It's not just the sacks, the hits. And Russ, it was basically about personnel and all these different things. But then it even got to this point, which I think is important, where Dan Patrick actually asked Russell Wilson

if he were potentially available in a trade. Yeah, I definitely believe they've gotten calls for sure. I think that, you know, I think anytime you're, you know,

you know, a player that, you know, tries to produce every week and has done it for, you know, consistently, I think people are going tries to produce every week and has done it for, you know, consistently, I think people are going to call for sure. And I think it's part of the process.

Yeah, but you're a franchise quarterback. You're a Hall of Fame quarterback. You're not available, are you? Well, I'm not sure if I'm available or not. That's a Seahawks question. So I'm sure if you didn't see or hear any of that, you're thinking, okay, Ryan, that's not really that big of a deal.

Okay, that's fair. And maybe you're right. Maybe it isn't a big deal at all, but I still think for Russell Wilson, it is a big deal. What if I propose this to you? Okay. Again, the most careful speaker perhaps in any of the major sports. I mean, here's an example, Kyle, let's just go ahead and play this. This is him. This could have been him after any game fucking ever, like forever, ever, ever. And it's the same stuff. Here's Russell Wills. You got to look forward to the moments. You know, we look forward to them. You know, we don't shy away from them. And I think that that's what great teams, they come through. And we keep trying to find a way. So I think the reality is we're just 5-1. That's the reality, and that's a good reality.

But we want to stay the course and just try to win the next game. We've got a tough battle back at home. And so to come in here in this environment, these fans here were tough. And our fans showed up, as you can see right there, and it was a great game. I think Tyler Lockett played great. DK came up with a huge third down catch right there. Big-time play. Chris you know the line did tremendous i think about george fan having to step in there that was great tremendous i mean the fourth and one stop at the i mean by our defense i mean it's the championship football that's what we need

congratulations thanks so much and this ball right here this i'm gonna miss you babe this ball's for you babe love you brother yeah so again maybe in this moment if you haven't been paying attention to stuff you're just like hey that's not that's not that big of a deal i'm like no no it is a big deal because i have a little insight into it because i think that russell wilson looks at himself as once football is over there's going to be something beyond football, like a greater calling. And whether that's business or leadership and who am I as someone who is not even remotely as successful as Russell Wilson to be critical of any of these things. Because I'm not. Again, I'm just emphasizing this. Not being critical of his pursuit of whatever it is that he's going to be.

But I almost think at times he sees himself as somebody who's going to be something else that just happens to play football right now. So I've also heard that the way he is so calculated with these answers is this pursuit of this ultimate approval rating so that once he ventures into business and philanthropy and all these different things, it's going to be like, hey, everybody really likes me. And I would argue that, you know, eventually authenticity plays out a little bit more unless you being authentic is that you're the worst guy ever. And that's not the case with Russell Wilson at all. So I think he's very protective. I think he's crafted this thing since he came to the league almost a decade ago, where it's like, I am going to be the face of this franchise. I am going to be thought of in a, in a certain way. He has branded it perfectly. The GQ thing was great, but modern lovers, if I ever do a GQ shoot, I can promise you it will never be the modern lovers issue.

They say babe in it about 700 times. Look, just trust me on that. I couldn't make my way through it, all right? So it's not my thing. It's not my deal. It's not catered to my tastes. But that Russell Wilson was even saying anything about the offensive line that was remotely negative is actually a pivot for him. And I don't know what to make of

the offensive line. If we're being completely fair about this final grades, depending on websites that you trust, I think the PFF guys had the Seahawks in the middle of the pack, like 14th as a unit, which is actually the highest ranking or grade that they had had for the offensive line since Russell Wilson came to the league. Entering the season, they actually had him ranked 28th. So that was a big bump up for them. But if you're a Seahawks fan or anybody that's watched Russell Wilson, as great as he is,

and he is all of that, he makes it really hard on an offensive line. I can't imagine having to block for that guy because it's brutal. And then you're like, okay, well, how are you actually assigning blame or success to any of the guys on the offensive line? How do you actually grade that with somebody like Russell Wilson? When you're out there thinking you're blocking something, and then all of a sudden the guy behind you is sacked. Whatever it is, there's a lot more good in it than there is bad with Russell Wilson's approach. But to just say all the hits are a lack of personnel or that Russell Wilson needs more input on personnel. But then when Dan's

like, hey, are you available in trade? And he's like, well, that's more of a Seahawks question, but he's even flirting with it. That is revealing. This may end up being nothing. Maybe it's a moment where we spend a few days on it and it's not a big deal. He's under contract through 2023. It's a very favorable contract. Remember when he did his first extension, I think the Seahawks even did it about a year earlier than they needed to, because he was at a really, he was at minimum wage numbers for a, for an NFL quarterback.

And they hooked him up there. Not to say that anybody ever that gets paid goes years later and like, you know what? I'm not really happy with my current situation, but they stepped up a bunch of years ago. So I owe it to them. No, it's your money. It's in your pocket, your account. So you don't care anymore about that. But somebody who has been this careful, would it be surprising that Russell Wilson would say, you know, maybe I need a bigger market. Maybe my pop star wife doesn't want to be in Seattle forever. Although I don't understand why you couldn't play in any NFL city

and then just live in other major cities most of the year. It's actually a fairly easy schedule other than the physical part of it. But you get my point. So maybe this is another quarterback that we add to the list of just kind of understanding

that they have NBA player power, which we've been on for a long time. And we've seen it. And we're going to see more of it. And the guy that you would think would be the last to even allow these kinds of discussions to happen because he's been so protective of his words, as it stands today, I think this is actually a big deal.

And if he's somewhere else, I'm not going to be surprised at all. Coming up, we'll go over all the first-rounders. McShay has five of them in his first mock draft. It's that time of year. His mock draft is out up on ESPN.com. It is Todd McShay. Let's just get to it. Offense is the story, at least the beginning here,

and then you have five quarterbacks going to the top 12. Give me how this has developed because it's not entirely fair when it was like, oh, it's always Lawrence, it's always Fields, and then you guys start breaking it down a little bit more. How has that in the last month or so changed from Fields being the certain number two to now Wilson ahead of him

and even Trey Lance? Yeah. To be honest with you, when the season ends, you go back and you study the tape. And Trevor Lawrence, to me, I don't want to say is a no-brainer, but he's as close to a no-brainer coming out of college since 2012 with Andrew Luck. So I don't think Urban Meyer, I've talked to Urban, I don't think Urban Meyer takes that job in Jacksonville.

He doesn't have a once-in-a-decade type of talent coming out of the quarterback position that he knows he can bring in and develop. And so I think that's, you know, you start there. But to me, the draft starts at number two with the Jets. And when I studied Wilson, the frustrating part is you don't get to see him against great competition. And then a year ago, we had the shoulder injury and the thumb injury. But I'm convinced after the tape study,

and with some character concerns who come up and we could have some injury issues or durability, question marks with the medical exams. But if you're just basing it off of the tape, Zach Wilson to me is the number two player in this draft, certainly the number two quarterback in this draft. And that's why I put him with the Jets. And if the Jets don't take him there,

they're going to move out of the team and move up to go get him. Where it becomes interesting. So basically, Ryan, it's Lawrence and then a small gap, and then Wilson and then a small gap. And then I think you put in Lance from North Dakota State and Justin Fields from Ohio State in that third tier, if you will, of quarterbacks. And what I've seen with Fields is obviously he's so physically gifted.

I mean, he's big, he's strong, he's sturdy, he's durable. He's got a big arm. He extends plays. He's competitive. And he's accurate when he can see his receiver open. But that's the issue that I'm kind of working through between he and Lance. Lance, he's not quite as accurate consistently at this point as Fields is. And clearly didn't play as many games and against the same competition.

But I think that he sees the field and processes faster. He has faster eyes. He can go from progression one to two to three to four quicker than Fields does. And what happens with Fields is he, Ryan Day is such a good quarterback coach and that offense is so quarterback friendly and it allowed him to be very accurate in a lot of games. But when defenses were highly talented

or threw a lot of different things at him, he struggled. And the Clemson game, he was great. But you look at Indiana, Northwestern, and then the championship game against Alabama, he completed around 52% of his throws and had five interceptions in those three games. And that's where I'm, you know, that's the kind of defense he's going to see in the NFL. You know, and even ramped up, obviously.

So that's where I'm struggling between those two guys. But again, I think it's Lawrence, one, clear cut. Wilson should be the number two pick, and then it's Lance and Fields. I think you can go back and forth on that. All right. Understanding that my version of evaluating this

is far limited compared to the way you're doing it. With Fields, at the beginning of the year, I was like, man, you know, this guy's right there with Lawrence. Yeah. And then, you know, I'd start thinking about when he struggled a bit and I go, is this on him or are they so good on offense at times that he's wondering like, wait, why is there a safety over there now? So it was almost like I'm almost defending him in that I thought some of his struggles at times,

it was like, oh, wait, this has been so open the beginning of the year. These post routes, which I think are a lot easier than people kind of understand, because if you get one-on-one with some of their receivers, especially, it's like just throw it up in the air and the guy's going to go ahead and get it. And then as the season went along, the people started doing some different stuff, and then it was like, oh, wait. Okay, that thing had been opened all the time, and now I've got to adjust for that. And then I thought the North—go ahead.

That's my point. That's my point, right? That's my whole point is you've got to adjust, and that's what you're going to see in the league. And I'm seeing the same things you're seeing. And you're coming from a positive standpoint. I'm coming from more of a concerned standpoint

in terms of, is he going to be able to adjust? And because he has so many weapons around him and because he has such a good offensive coach in Ryan Day and because everything is kind of mechanical, if you will. This is going to be a read. This is what we're going to see.

This is what we expect. Boom, boom. You know, when things are right for him, he's special. I mean, he really is. He extends, and he makes throws, and he can be pinpoint accurate. But when it gets muddy for him, and it's not a clear window, that's where I'm, again, I'm still working through it because I just, I don't know.

Because in the league, when it gets muddy, that's when the elite quarterbacks excel. You know, when Tom Brady sees something that is different, he figures out a way timing-wise or adjustment-wise to handle the situation. Aaron Rodgers does the same thing Drew Brees has for so many years. All the great quarterbacks,

they do that. I just haven't seen enough of that from him yet. That doesn't mean he can't adjust and improve and mature, but I just haven't seen enough of that yet to be convinced that he's the number two or number three quarterback in the playoffs. Yeah, no, all of that's fair.

I think the Northwestern game, they dropped everybody. They have a good secondary, and I think that was more on day, going like, all right, do we now, do we want to keep trying to throw the football against these guys, or do you guys want to run it a little bit?

Next thing you know, Trey Sermon almost wins the Heisman in half. He was bad. He44% in that game? He was bad. He was bad in that game, but I also thought they were dropping everyone. And I thought Ohio State

was stubborn about what they were trying to do on offense. And I'm not turning this into like, hey, I think Fields is awesome and you think he sucks. I just, I watched him all year.

I watch every game. The beauty is, like, Jim Donnan, right, who was the old Georgia coach, he's been texting me saying I'm crazy. I'm crazy. I'm crazy.

I've gone to practice every day. You're out of your mind. He's not the first quarterback in his class. And then I've talked to three different GMs who think he's the fourth or fifth best quarterback in his class and just are not on board. fourth or fifth best quarterback in the class and just are not on board. So it just depends on who you're talking to, what you've seen and how you translate it to what he can be in the NFL. And that's what you add that to the fact. First of all, we've got Trevor Lawrence, Fields, Wilson, and Lance,

and Matt Jones who had an epic year this year in Alabama. And then you've got all these quarterbacks. Is Sam Darnold going to be in New York? Is Jimmy Garoppolo going to be in San Francisco? What's Chicago going to do? What's Indianapolis going to do? They're pretty good at 20 and 21, respectively. And both teams are trying to court and get a deal done with Carson Wentz.

So there are so many moving parts. New England needs a quarterback. There are so many moving parts of quarterback now. And there are so many differing opinions on the NFL draft quarterbacks this year, the guys who are going to be rookies. To me, this next three months is going to be the most fascinating three months leading up to a draft that I've had in 20 years.

Because of all the veteran quarterback movement, because this class is unique, and because of all the different phases we've had to go through in the last 12 months with COVID. Back to Wilson. When I watch him, it feels a little bit like that baseball arm that everybody's in love with so I don't know what his background is so go ahead and take that any direction

you want and then I have to follow up on the character part that's why you get a lot of Mahomes you get a lot of Mahomes comparisons because he's similar in that

the arm angle can change it's like it's kind of like watching the shortstop turn turn a double play right if the ball

is out and then what I love about him Kind of like watching the shortstop turn a double play, right? If the ball is out. And then what I love about him is he has instincts and a natural feel in the pocket. I've told you this before. We've talked about it a lot. Mahomes was one of the hardest evaluations I've ever had in my life. Because he did every single possible thing wrong from a mechanical standpoint and from inside the pocket. You know, get the ball in that Texas Tech offense.

He was kind of fading back. He was off balance. Sometimes he was like submarining the ball, throwing it 50 yards in the air. But the end result was right up right on money extended play you know created something that wasn't there initial play broke down he made he made something happen and then at the end of the play the ball would be in the correct spot even though he went against every single rule that you would teach your son in terms of playing the quarterback position so i remember going through like the first two games and like, oh, I just,

I don't see the mechanics of Royals and all these things. But at the end of the play, like everybody, I went back to my notes and said, completion, completion, ball on spot, ball placement. And at the end of it, I said, you know what? This guy, this guy could be special if he has the right situation. And he did. He had Alex Smith. He has Andy Reid, who's one of the best quarterback coaches.

He had a year to learn, and everything came together. So I think the same with Zach Wilson. I'm not saying he's going to be Pat Foles. But I'm saying he's kind of in that similar situation where he's coming from a situation at BYU where he didn't play great competition he may need a little bit of time and developing and learning to play within this system but if he has the right coaches around him in the right you know the proper time to develop I think he has a

chance to be elite and one of the top five six quarterbacks in the league four or five years from now yeah look I mean Kansas City deserves all the credit in the world because anybody that watched Mahomes that year, you're like, what am I supposed to do with this? And then the one thing that I was told after the fact is that some of the stuff that he did is because he knew they're going to give up at least 50 on defense every single game. So he was actually that smart that he was playing

to the limitations of the defense because there was stuff that he would do. You go, how the hell do you throw that ball there? How do you do it? And he just sort of knew. So, again, Veach and... The best part is I actually did... I did the Chiefs preseason games for two years.

And his second year, which was his first year as a full-time starter, we sat down for the first time. I had talked to him during the draft process for the first time that he was in the league. And we talked for about 25, 30 minutes. And he looked at me at one point. I asked him, I was like,

how important was it to get a year to learn under, you know, with Alex there being willing to help you and to have Andy Reid. He said, let me just give you an example, Tom. I have never identified a Mike linebacker, that middle linebacker, which I learned in, I think, probably in Pop Warner, and definitely in high school. He's like, I've never identified a Mike linebacker.

And he's like, three out of seven times, I would misidentify it. I was like, what do you mean? He's like, I just have never been asked to do it. When I grew up in Texas and played in Texas Tech, we never had to do that. It's the simplest thing. It's like, 54 is the mic. If you watch any football game in the NFL

and you just listen to the pre-snap stuff, the first thing the quarterback does is say, you know, 39 is the mic, 54 is the mic, whatever the number is, and that helps the offensive line set protection. He didn't know how to do that. I mean, it's as simple as the thing, but that's why he needed a year,

and that's why all these quarterbacks come out, we can all see the talent. It doesn't take a super scout, but you have to have the right situation for the quarterback that you're bringing in. And that's why you spend so many hours trying to figure out where they are mentally. Who do we have

to coach them? What kind of time do we have with them? And that's why we're talking to different head coaches this week. I've had three different calls from head coaches this week asking me questions about what I know about the quarterbacks. Because they have not had any face-to-face time with these quarterbacks this year. And it's driving them crazy.

Man, that was a good story. That was great. I mean, I think I can identify the Mike at home. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm misidentifying him. Because sometimes I'll just be like, what's the point? Like, yeah, 53. You might be getting the will, the weak side linebacker.

But yeah. In one year, he learned that from just being able to sit back, take it all in, learn from Alex, and learn from Andrew. By the way, there's a really good chance of getting it wrong at home. Alright, let's keep going here.

Matt Jones. You know, I texted you about his footwork in the pocket. I right, let's keep going here. Matt Jones. You know, I texted you about his footwork in the pocket. I go, it's... I'm not... Hey, you texted me about a lot of quarterbacks in the past. I do, I do. And I'll always tell Todd,

I'll be like... Oh, the boys and Tebow. You know what I mean? Nah. Your track record is... My track record is incredible, first of all. The height thing on Tebow

is my bad, all right? That was my bad because i was like this guy's not that big i was like this guy's not that big i was i was with him tonight and then um mccoy i was right about which is fine because there's there's a debt there but honestly i think over the long haul that i'm still up money wise with you you taking care of stuff so i'm not i'm not complaining about that no i talked about mac jones mobility in the pocket where i go the thing that i like about him more than just hey sarks dialing this up and everybody at alabama can throw to these all pro receivers that just happen to be in the sec right

now that his footwork in the pocket was really special i thought for somebody that young that that what that was the part where i go i think there's a little bit more to this than just a big number season. Yeah, I agree. He's difficult, too, because... Trevor's Trevor. Zach didn't play great competition and had injuries in 2019. Trey Lance had one showcase game this year and didn't play that great and was playing an FCS competition.

And we talked about Justin Fields and kind of the issues that I'm still fighting through and trying to figure out. With Mack, there's so many things to love. But you have to keep in perspective, he has three offensive linemen that are going to get drafted in the first three, four rounds. as going to get drafted in the first three, four rounds. He was a wide receiver in Devontae Smith, and he arguably had the best season of any wide receiver in the history of college football. And you look back, and Najee Harris is a first-round running back standing behind him.

So he has everything around him with, as you mentioned, Sark is one of the best play callers in college football, if not the best. So you have to keep that in mind. And that's what I've tried to do. But what I love about him is what you just said, his poise and presence inside the pocket, even though he wasn't pressured nearly as much as most of these other guys,

he feels it. If it's outside pressure, he climbs the pocket, he's poised, he doesn't get rattled, his eyes are down the floor. If the pressure comes climbs the pocket, he's poised, he doesn't get rattled, his eyes are down the floor. If the pressure comes from the inside, he slides a little bit. Now, is he going to take off and run like Zach can or Trey can or Trevor can or Justin can? No, he doesn't have that in his arsenal, but he can pick up six, seven yards when you need to. And then the other part is his accuracy. He throws the ball on time and has pinpoint accuracy within about 20, 25 yards. He underthrew his receivers several times when I

studied all of the tape on the deep ball. And it just so happens that he's got Mechie, who I know nobody really knows about because he wasn't one of the big name four receivers who was in the first round draft picks in a two-year span with Jerry Judy, Henry Ruggs, Devontae Smith, and Jalen Waddell. But Menchie stepped up and made some big-time plays for him down the field. And Devontae Smith was absolutely phenomenal. So it's tough because it's only one year, 17 starts in a two-year span, and he had so much greatness around him.

But I think he has a chance to be one of the few guys that come in the league without great mobility that can have early success because he's so smart, he's so determined, and he's so tough. I love talking to Sark about him. Early in the year, we actually did the Missouri game, I think it was. It was the second or third week of the season.

And Sark was like, you know what, we can win. We have so much around this guy. I just need him to stay in his lane. If Max stays in his lane, we can win. The second game that we had, he said, you know, he's developing. We're really impressed with where he's come and I'm giving him more than I usually give to quarterbacks. And by the third game that we had, he said, you know, he's developing. We're really impressed with where he's come,

and I'm giving him more than I usually give to quarterbacks. And by the third game that we had live with him, Sark just came out and he said, listen, I have never, and I've had all the USC quarterbacks, I've worked with Matt Ryan, but at the college level, I have never given more to a quarterback. And he's been able to digest it and be able to operate at a high level like this guy. And now it all runs through him. In the beginning of the year, it was stay in your lane, just be a game manager.

And now it's all about this guy at quarterback. And it was really cool to see S sark the transformation in terms of his mindset of who this guy was in september versus who he is now in in december okay i have a couple more things so let's let's run through it uh cadareous tony at florida is is one of those guys when you watch the gators i mean obviously pits is a stud you have them going higher tight end um you're like man this this guy you know out out and out in space um there's a little there's a little juice to him i think he's got some physical stuff where i'm like man i like the whole package even though he's a little raw

and obviously undersized the thing that i always get afraid of is all the dudes that we fall in love with whether it was d'anthony thomas up at oregon or jeff demps or Jeff Demps even at Florida. Jeff Demps was probably just a straight line go or they'd run some sweeps with him and that kind of stuff. I think he was even more limited as a receiver and a route runner. There's some of these smaller guys that dominate in college that we're all blown away and then we never hear from them again. For you to have Tony in the first round, what is it about him that either sets him apart or projects to be somebody that actually stays in the league for a long time?

He's explosive and he's versatile. And those are two of the things that you're really looking for right now in terms of offensive weapons. And you can line him up in the backfield. You can use him on fly sweeps. You can use him in the slot. You can put him out wide.

And he's not polished. He's, you know, he's not Jamar Chase from LSU. I have going six overall to the Eagles. He's not Devante Smith, who I am going to Detroit at seven. He's not Jalen Waddle.

And even though Waddle can still develop as a route runner a little bit, but he's still not at that level. And I, I've got Waddle going to Miami. I projected trade, but that's number eight overall pick but the reason i put uh tony at number 19 to washington is because he can do so many different things he can develop as a receiver in terms of his routes and getting in and out of

breaks but he has the physical tools to do it and And that's what makes him special. And I mean, look at, I'm not saying he's Tyreek Hill. He's more Debo Samuel is what he is. He's not Tyreek. There's only one Tyreek in the world. But I think Debo Samuel is a really good cop in terms of who he could be

in the NFL. And you're talking about a guy who, again, you can hand the ball off to, short game, get a couple vertical shots to him, maybe use him in the return game. And a guy who makes it easy on the quarterback and easy on the coordinator

and easy on the offense. When you can throw a quick swing or a hitch or a slant or anything in the quick game and get 25, 30 yards. And that's what Tony is. And you know what I loved about him too? Obviously he had a great senior year

and Kyle Pitts was the attraction, the tight end position, deservedly so. He'd be a top 10 pick. And Kyle Trask picked a great year. He's probably going to be a second round pick. But what I loved about Tony is that he got better as the season progressed. He played big in the big games. And then at the Senior Bowl, I watched him early in the week in practice,

got tangled up with the defensive back, ran into the goalpost. And he came over to the sideline, and the trainers were all over him. You know, what's going on? I was standing five feet away from him. He was saying, I can't breathe. I can't breathe. There was something with his rib, and he just was having trouble breathing.

He dropped two passes later that day in practice, and I read from a bunch of different people, Tony came out here, and he was dropping passes. He doesn't look like the same guy. But you know what he did? He went back into practice. And he really didn't have to be there. He showed up, he got injured, and he kept practicing.

And he showed up the next day and he caught everything. And he, to me, was, if not the most explosive, he was up there with two or three most explosive players at the senior bowl that we can practice. Why chase over Devontae Smith?

Why Chase over Devontae Smith? I would say traits is the best way to put it. And I had Devontae over Chase in the last mock draft. I have identical grades on the two. One in Chase is bigger, more physical.

He's got speed for days. He averaged 21.2 yards per catch in 2019. And everyone condensed that because he opted out and, you know, out of sight, out of mind. Devontae comes back. Jalen Waddle goes down in the fifth game. And from that point on, he accidentally took over.

I mean, I struggle with things. It's 50-50 with me. I think Chase has a bigger upside. I think he's a better talent. I think Devontae is Marvin Harris. He doesn't look the part. He's got skinny legs.

You wonder, how is he doing this? But he just keeps doing it. And I mentioned Ruggs and Judy and Waddle and all those four guys. This will be the first time in the history of the draft that a school has had two receivers on the first round twice. And it's going to be in consecutive years. So think about that wide receiver role. And there's nothing I enjoy more about being on the sideline

than watching the Alabama wide receivers sit on the back of that bench and yell at each other. They chirp all day long. They are so competitive. They tell each other, why didn't you make that cut? What are you doing there?

You got to catch that ball. Block that guy. You know, and they just get after each other all the time. I've never seen a more competitive group over the last couple of years than when I have the Alabama wide receivers. And I think that's what makes Devontae special. He's just worked his crap so hard

to be the most consistent receivers of four wide receivers that can be first-round draft picks. And that's exactly what he did. Yeah, that was the fun thing about, especially being in Tuscaloosa for that LSU-Bama matchup, where you're looking at the field and you go, there's like seven or eight first-rounders running around right now.

We're just talking about pass catchers. And so for all the love that you'd have for Judy because of the route running and then Ruggs and then Waddle would show up in speed, I'd always be like, six is always open. And then you wonder, is Devontae open because of all these other guys? Judy was precision.

Ruggs was speed and toughness. Waddle's like speed plus. Waddle's twitchy speed. Just get the ball in his hands. I don't care how you do it. Get the ball in his hands. And then Devontae was always like, well, what is he?

He's kind of skinny. He's not 6'1". He's not 6'2". He's not 200 pounds. He doesn't have like 4'3 speed. But the dude just knows how to get open. And he's not afraid of doing anything in terms of dirty

work, blocking, going over the middle, all the things that you love about receivers. Chase is physically more talented. I'm in love with Devontae Smith. I think he's going to be a special player in the league. And I think he's going to take that competitiveness in the league. And I think he's going to

take that competitiveness that he had in Alabama and he's going to take it to another level in the NFL, especially if he's the number two wide receiver taken off the board. He'll come in with the chip. All right, we'll do more of this

as we get a little closer, man. I appreciate the time and a busy schedule. And stay safe. We'll talk soon. All right, brother. I'll talk to you soon. You want details? Bye. I drive a Ferrari 355 Cabriolet. What's up? I have a ridiculous house

in the South Fork. I have every toy you can possibly imagine. And best of all, kids, I am liquid. So now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required. Life advice, rr at gmail.com. May do a couple follow-up. People are really excited about the joint checking account, apparently, Kyle. Our lumber magnate who was worried about the joint account.

People just had all sorts of, and it was all different. So hey, celebrate. Celebrate differentness on opinions of that one. We had a couple others. I don't know. I don't know if I want to turn this into feedback corner, but your content, Kyle,

this week, spirit award for you over there on the Xbox. Yeah. Actually, we should have titled that podcast. Kyle sells his Xbox for weed oh shit and NBA observations

so you know I don't know what to do with that one no it appears yeah right right it appears people were sympathetic to your plight, broken Xbox. What are you going to do?

Yeah. Got to recoup your losses. Speaking of weed, check in from California. Big guy grew up in new England. He's given up too much personal information here. So I don't want to, I don't want to get him in trouble.

I moved to California after college with almost no plan entirely i was dating a girl who moved out there together shockingly we didn't last but hey we're young you give it a shot shout out to you she left and i'm still here ben over three years now now i find myself working as a caddy at i he why does he have all this personal information i'm just going to cover for you here. Maybe you don't care and it doesn't matter, but he's a caddy at a really nice resort. And also a few years bartending downtown at night. So caddy day, bartending at night. To say your boy has been impacted financially by the pandemic would be putting things lightly. Service industry, I'm sure you get it. Anyway, this is leading to my point. So here I'll explain my dilemma because work as a caddy has been

sparse. I've got another day job. I work for a cannabis dispensary here as a delivery driver. It's not what I want to be doing, but it's paying the bills. So here's the thing. I don't like weed for whatever reasons. It doesn't really matter, but I personally think it's stupid. And I absolutely hate all the crap about, oh, it's medicine and that sort of thing. It's weed. You just want to get high, admit it. We were all adults. It's fine if that's what you want to do, but the charade is what kills me. There's a million other examples of this sort of thing in our society. We don't need to go there. All right. Um, I got a big chuckle out of that because there are times where I just go, like, give me a break.

You just want to get high. We've talked about the editable, the edible part of it again, where I'm like, oh yeah, is your anxiety down? Like, were you tripping? So there are people that will tell you, especially anybody going through significant health stuff that they'd rather do this than take any kind of, and I want to turn it into a pills and opioid debate and all that kind of stuff. Um, because I, I tend to lean, uh, towards

the marijuana argument on this, but there are moments in the pro marijuana argument where I would just be like, okay, come on. Um, or maybe we're just saying cannabis now. All right. So I understand your point. All right. So now I'm literally driving around town, delivering weed to people. I'm a drug dealer. I don't feel proud telling my parents, oh yeah, I'm just going to go sell some weed today. So my question is this, how do I sleep at night knowing I'm a drug dealer? Like I generally don't believe in what I'm doing. It's not like I'm slinging meth or killing people, but there's part of me that doesn't like what I'm doing. And really it's just a job for the meantime until I get back to caddying, but it bothers me. Anyway, thanks for taking your time

to read. Would love to hear your thoughts. I think you're being a little too hard on yourself in a way. I, I almost didn't, I think it's kind of cool that you have this, this standard for yourself and you feel it, but you're not a drug dealer. I mean, you're Uber for weed. So yeah, I mean, if we want to get into a whole semantics thing here and say, yeah, actually you are, maybe you disagree with me saying that, but I think you're being a little hard on yourself with that. And considering you're in two different service industries where I doubt you've been able to make any money, there are worse decisions that you could have made and you didn't. So, you know, you could even tell your parents, hey, I don't feel proud about what I'm Um, but this is what I'm doing. I mean, I don't know if you've even told them. I had a buddy that worked at a strip club as a door guy and he didn't want to tell anybody. And then it got out. And I

think somebody was saying like the family found out that he was working the door at this, this strip club. And he's like, look, I'm, I'm in'm in between jobs he by the way was not ashamed at all he was he was loving life um but his family was not real supportive of that like we sent you to a really good school and now you're a door guy and so you know and he wasn't even a big dude he just was friendly and people liked him so kyle i might ask you to chime in on this one other than you asking if there's an application available, but, uh, I think our guy's just beating himself up a little bit too much. I mean, it's kind of cool in a way that you have these standards and you're so thrown off by this, but if it's easy hours, the money's good and you know, you're not doing it forever.

I would, I would lighten up a little bit on yourself. Unless you're so principled that you truly feel like you are a drug dealer and then if it's bothering you that much and you can't sleep at night, there has to be a different way you can drive around and deliver stuff that's maybe not weed. Yeah, a few thoughts.

Didn't you say you work as a bartender? Like how much like you're literally serving up alcohol to people. You're upset people are getting weed. Also can i imagine you're driving for an app can't you deliver literally anything like what if you just went to postmates instead and i get if it's a dispensary that hired you but a lot of these things around here it's like um blaze and all those other ones like those are just apps it's just it's uber for weed you could do the same thing with alcohol so yeah just lighten up dude you're just dropping shit wow yeah you went

bartender weed argument there that's um that's pretty good i mean there's more of a direct impact on whatever that guy is going to do after you gave him his fifth gin and tonic than when you're dropping off a fucking eighth of weed i don't know i would yeah especially gin especially gin kyle serious you know cousin of gasoline although people like gin again now not when i was younger guys would be desperate you know before you turn 21 and then somebody'd be like i think there's a bottle of bee feeder around here you're like i guess we're staying in yeah we had one guy that would just only drink gin and we were like why what oh my god how long did that last ever forever still today he still only drinks gin yeah he's like a big weed guy but he's like but i'll have gin

well the gin thing now is it's very fancy so you know there's there's a lot of like crafted gins and different stuff so whatever the gin of today the last few years um it's far more has any mixers though it's just like i just brought a bottle of gin to the thing and it's like oh awesome gin used to always make me think like of movies where they would it would say like old movies where it'd say gin on the bottle and that was when the guy was absolutely at his bottom like it wasn't any other thing than just like be like oh that guy's drinking gin regularly right yeah yeah right like a sign

around your neck hanging being like hooch so yeah there's definitely people listening right now mixologists that are like now you guys are totally missing the point on gin. No, no, I get it. Crafted cocktails, you know, a little basil in there. Maybe some, maybe not with gin, but some thyme. I've seen all sorts of different things that you guys have done. So I'm aware of that. And some of the small batch stuff that everybody really likes.

I have a couple of friends that drink it now, but it's a very casual, like have a gin cocktail thing. It's a, it's a very grownup thing. Whereas the gin options, we were a lot younger. No one in college was going, yeah, I do a, maybe a Tangray and tonic. I think there was a time where that was, that was a pretty big deal, but, uh, I don't, I haven't seen anyone order a Tangray and tonic now. I don't know how many years it's been, but it's been a long time, but again, I don't

bartend. So, you know, I could be wrong. Oh, we got a, we got a guy checking in here, a young guy. Here we go. I know most of your audience is full-grown adults as well as your life advice segments, but I'll give it a try. High schooler in the Northeast, I attend a relatively prestigious boarding school that every other member of my family attended.

I'm the youngest of four. All my older siblings are extremely successful so far in life. There's an enormous amount of pressure on me to go to an elite college and be successful. I'm not complaining. I'm extremely grateful that I've been given an opportunity that many others aren't,

but I find myself so extremely unmotivated this year. I've been virtual and in person, but I just can't seem to care about school. I know how important school is and how much my parents have sacrificed to send me to a private school, but for some reason, I just keep pushing about school. I know how important school is and how much my parents have sacrificed to send me to a private school, but for some reason I just keep pushing off school. I've gotten fine grades, but certainly below what is expected of me.

I just need a kick in the ass to help me get motivated. The reality is there's no excuse for me to not give 100% of my effort in school. I just need some advice in getting off my feet. All right, so we're talking high school here. I don't know if he's still there. Look, I'll tell you, bud, as somebody that went to essentially an extension of a prep school for college in Vermont and me coming from public school, how badly I wanted to transfer to private school to play sports because I just, you know, I really didn't

like going to the high school that I went to. And then things kind of worked out there at the end, but it was, it was tough to move at that time of my life. So it wasn't like, Oh, I want to be a private school kid so bad. It was just, I wanted to go somewhere that I could really focus on sports and that wasn't going to happen for me at home. So it never happened because I'm pretty sure that eventually my father was like, I don't want to pay. I'm not paying. This is ridiculous. And for me, I was also going to have to like take a boat every day or board, which is even more than my father

was definitely not paying for that. Not when you're paying taxes so that you can have your kids use the public school system. So when I got to Vermont, I remember, look, I don't know if it was jealousy or envy, but I'll tell you, like, I was kind of like, man, these guys that went to Groton or Taft or Choate or Westminster, Hobart, no Hobart's college. Sorry. There's a, there's a different one in there. Um, I thought that shit was cool. So here you are, you're in it and you know, I don't know why I thought it was cool, but I just did.

I just did, man. And then as you kind of move and navigate through it, you realize all that stuff doesn't really matter. It just doesn't. It's like you get a couple of cool rowing shirts. You show up earlier and be like, yeah, I was a chode. Oh, do you know Hopkins Hopkinsons? And he's like, yeah, are you saying I do know choked choked for me real quick. And then I'll leave it. Are you saying Chode? I do know. Chote? Spell it for me real quick, and then I'll leave it alone.

C-H-O-A-T-E. Okay, got it. Thanks. Yeah. You thought I was saying Chode as a prep school the whole time? Well, not Chode. I mean, that's not what I thought, but it was running across my mind. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, you're thinking that's the worst name for a prep school ever.

Chode. Correct. I would agree with you. I would agree with you. Okay, all right. So my point, my point is, is maybe I don't know what my point is. All right. The point that I need to make back to this is, is this is like, all right, you're in this situation where it is really cool. And since you're the youngest, I was the oldest, so I don't really know what that's like. Although I can pretend to realize like that's a ton of pressure for you and you're not feeling it and everything's

been messed up. So you've been virtual, you've been there. I don't know if you're boarding the whole time, but you better start enjoying the boarding part a hell of a lot more. But as far as doing the work, I went to school and I thought like, oh, I'm so smart. And this isn't even that hard of a school. I'm going to be great. And then I wasn't. And part of it was arrogance. And you can tell me anything at 18 anyway. And I signed up for all the wrong classes. I think we've been over this before and I bombed a couple. So I started off terrible, but there was another part of me as a student, which I think is what we're hitting on here a little bit is that I didn't have any good habits as far as what I needed to do. Now, look, this goes back to

pre-junior high when teachers are on your case about putting a little bit of time each day, put a little effort in, and your reward will be there. But most of us don't even work that way. I mean, however you, I mean, even, look, I'm convinced no one's going to really care about the environment until it's way too late. And some scientists would argue right now, but we, for whatever reason, most of us can't do anything until we know it absolutely has to be done. And for a lot of us, it was like, there's way more of us that thought of school that way than the person that was just kind of grinding along slowly.

But the other thing that I used to, I don't know if this is your case, but I was so excited to have freedom and be out on my own that there could literally be nothing cool going on and I would still want in. Somebody would be like, hey, we're firing up a game of Sega. Rasul, what do you want to do?

I'm in. Clat. I'm like, hey, I'm going outside to actually do nothing. Really? In. Hey, Rasul, I'm going to fill up my gas tank. In. Shotgun.

Like, I just loved the movement and freedom of being like in a real place as opposed to Martha's Vineyard in the winter that I was honestly a little overwhelmed, which sounds ridiculous because it was barely 8,000 students and it wasn't this big town or big city or anything like that. But it was so much going on. And what I regret about those early years when I wasn't a good student, I became a really good student afterwards. And I know how great of a student I think I would be now because I literally spend all my time studying or writing. And granted, it's a little more streamlined and

stuff that I like, but I would tell you this, you need to challenge yourself in a way that makes you feel a little uncomfortable. So for 30 days, give yourself an hour. That's it. Give yourself an hour. So if you're still on campus and you're boarding at the school, before you go back and go to the dorm and know that there's all sorts of awesome distractions, and even if they're not even that great, it's still a distraction. I started to turn it around whenever I was done with school. Whenever I was done with class on campus, I wouldn't leave main campus until I just made myself sit in the library for an hour or two. Yeah. Kick it at the library for sure. That's it. Now the problem is library, Vermont turned into like happy hour as you were getting closer to exams because it was just a

scene. Guys were going there. They didn't even have to to study but if i could just do a little bit before i went back and it was really simple math like hey i could be back to my dorm and be done for the day at one or i can be back at the dorm and done with my day at three like what are you going we didn't even have cable we were watching fucking ricky lake reruns you know so if you could get that in your head that i'm just going to stay and i took way too long to do this this is actually not great so i apologize but if you can get in your head that hey before i go back to do all those other things that i want to do that are more fun that are with my buddies and all that stuff you're gonna change and if you think

like oh i don't really do you want to do this where you go hey i'm look myself in the mirror and say, you can or can't do this for 30 days. It's going to be a really terrible feeling to look yourself in the mirror and go, well, I can't do it. I'm incapable of doing this and taking like a 30 day challenge of making sure I stay on campus for at least an hour or two, finishing up some of the work and just the workload part of it. It's actually an incredible feeling when the anxiety of not having a million things hanging over your head work-wise is gone gone all right i need to tighten it up by the way on that one that was that was uh that was a lot we had some people checking in on the um the guy who was dating the girl for the potential debt help scam the scam yeah yeah the guy followed up and said

another kicker in defense of the program he said that the girlfriend said they give you like 10 grand so i felt like that was important to get there what does that thing looks even the way he said it it sounds sketchy they give you like 10 grand yeah right right oh we had this guy chime in having hoops down has been killing me as well i actually went out and bought my own rim net and step ladder so i can shoot around i just find a park with a backboard and hang my rim so far no one has given me any issues i live in philadelphia born and raised so a couple guys here and there have walked up and shot for a minute but nothing too irresponsible from a social distancing standpoint. If you really want it, you'll make it happen. How about that? All right. So that guy's calling me out because I

haven't bought a step ladder, a rim net, and some bolts, which you conveniently seen. I guess maybe the bolts are still up there off the old rim. I'm not doing that. I'm not driving around with a ladder. Sorry. Oh, we had another guy chime in before we get to our final one. He says, I don't need any life advice. I'm currently living the dream, adventuring through the first two years of marriage, suffocating and crippling debt from buying a house and dealing with the spousal stress of trying to get my wife pregnant. Couldn't be better. He noticed the videos here. People really concerned about this room that I'm doing the videos in and he wanted to know if we have the same headboard and he sent me a link to

his. No, it's not the same one. Okay. This is a tough one. This one is tough, man. A little background. 32, married, father of a five-month-old, wife's sister. So his wife's younger sister is getting married to a 22-year-old. I get a group text out of the blue from numbers. I don't recognize. Turns out I've been invited to a two day extravaganza that features shooting. Not my thing. Golf, not my thing.

And a sleepover. I don't sleep well. How do I possibly go about getting through this? I've been to the shooting range at a previous bachelor party and may have ruined everyone's time. I'm a good enough athlete where I'd have fun with golf, but my main issue is being around young strangers and not feeling like the Steve Buscemi meme. That's the hello fellow kids,

right there. I get that one. I get that one thrown at me a lot, but usually it's because I'm making fun of a trend. So, uh, I also have a main issue of potentially having so many mental illnesses that it's like the Simpson sketch with Mr. Burns, where he has so many diseases that they all work in perfect

harmony. I'm just a moody, anxious person who finds a way to make everything about themselves or can really just flat out not have fun and freak people out. All right. Just double checking. This isn't a movie plot or anything like that right kyle just a quick rolodex no i don't think so it would be a shitty movie i think it well maybe vince vaughn was in it'd be good i could already see that part okay so here's here's

the guy's question do i tell this kid flat out that i can't go or do i booze it up the entire time and risk end up like will ferrell in old school? The kid's a great kid. He helped me put up my heavy bag. I want to be someone who is able to have fun. I also don't like being closed-minded about future things and tell myself it won't be doable, but this doesn't seem doable. I'm going to agree with you. I don't think this is doable. Because when you say, do I just booze it up? These guys are 22. They're getting after it all the time. They're just going to be able to drink better than you will at this point. Unless, I don't know, unless you're incredible, but I'm just talking about science here. Um, because anybody that goes to the college run and then that little bit of run after that, it's,

it's a, it's a real, there's a real correction on the human body so um you don't want to golf you don't like shooting you've mentioned that at a previous bachelor party at a shooting range you you did something that ruined everyone's time um what would that be i don't know i mean did he start saying like a joke i don't know are you walking around going do we really need guns we need to that would need to overhaul you're right right that's probably when you're in a gun range with a bunch of gun guys asking questions about the second amendment being like yeah you know is this necessary so um yeah so if you just get i mean unless you're maybe you can totally take care of but if you already have all this anxiousness going into it and then you're like, oh, I'll just get drunk and deal.

I don't know. I don't like that math. I don't like that math on this one. So you don't want to do anything and you don't even need these. You don't even know these people all that well. Your only problem is the guilt of not continue to do these things. And my guess is you're going of not continue to do these things. And my guess is you're going to continue to not do these things. And as you get older, you're going to have less

guilt because you're just going to kind of accept who you are at this point, which is kind of a nice feeling too. You're like, all right, whatever. I'm just a guy that doesn't want to do a ton of this stuff because I just don't feel comfortable doing. But here's where you are off the hook. Here is the good news, my man. They don't want you there, right? These guys are only inviting you because the guy's wife's older sister is your wife. So you're off the hook. They don't want the 32 year old guy to be there. They are going to be a little afraid about some of the back and forth because there's

nothing weirder than a guy that's this orbiting moon. That's not really part of the main deal of the planet who just kind of shows up to these this stuff. Almost the success rate on this is so low. Also ties back to the wife sort of like, you know what I mean? It's like, you know, what's he going to go say that then it's that her that her sister you know not that they're doing to do anything nefarious but it's also like you know you're not on the other team but you definitely have a connection to the other team kyle immediately gives us the prostitute warning label or just like somebody made a joke that was

so funny and somehow it slipped out a week later when they were fucking making breakfast and i don't know well all of those things are on this yeah look all those things are fair great observations all on the table um but i don't i wouldn't worry about this too much i mean look the guy's marrying your wife's sister you're gonna see him around's awesome. He helped him put up the heavy bag. Unless you're like some badass or something, you know? Um, and you guys are going to have plenty of time to probably socialize in the future. So take a deep breath, exhale, say no problem solved. Word. Larry David, this one, no doubt.

word Larry David this one no doubt yeah and but the great thing is you're being invited to something the people inviting you are hoping you say no to likely unless my people are all the worst but every every single time there's been kind of an outside the mix guy it was always like oh and you know you're gonna bring deb's husband oh what's his deal and some see the funny thing is i kind of like our emailer here because he's going into it knowing like ah we've had guys show up that were like yes this is amazing you know guys in their 20s early 30s they rent out this house they do a weekend here and then there's some guy who's just there and everybody's always like who's that guy

oh what's that oh it's oh it's the wife's sister oh okay yeah it's a brother oh okay that's the best one is when the guy's the same age and your wife's brother has to go and nobody knows him and then that guy usually didn't ever. Rarely are people like, you know what was awesome at that bachelor party? He's the guy none of us knew. Let's do more stuff with him. Enjoy the weekend, everyone. Thank you.