The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Big Cat Stops By for Sports City Trades, CFB Predictions, History Takes, and Life Advice

Episode Date: September 20, 2023

Ryen is joined by Big Cat from Barstool to talk about Roman Empire and World War II history (2:04), Deion Sanders changing the landscape of college football at Colorado (31:00), and sports city trades... (42:22). Would Patrick Mahomes be worth an entire NBA franchise? Plus, they give life advice to a guy getting punked at the gym and tell an OnlyFans story (52:17). The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming, please check out theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Host: Ryen Russillo Guest: Barstool Big Cat Producers: Steve Ceruti and Cliff Augustin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On today's pod, we do over an hour with Big Cat, also life advice in a new segment where we trade players from different sports to different cities. You'll figure it out. excited to do it dan big cat joins us what's up got booked by allison i now in the Sarah Walsh uh category of your friends where it's like hey the booker will just handle it we don't have to do this uh you know friends asking friends to do their podcast that was good I feel like I graduated there but uh yeah I I should have come on like a month ago we were talking about it but uh I love coming on this show because
Starting point is 00:01:02 I never know your fans are maybe a little bit I would say a little more intelligent. You have a higher brow. You have authors on and stuff and analysts and I just basically I basically give my thoughts from vibes. So like I will say something
Starting point is 00:01:20 stupid that makes no sense about like football or college football or some team and people like that's actually wrong. Like dude'm going off vibes i'm going off vibes i'm going how i feel well i wouldn't worry about it too much um but i i appreciate that you know you have a you have an author on talking about the north pole and next thing you know but look people got really upset with sir rudy when we have told this shane Shane Gillis story over and over again when you and I were watching him live. And you started just nudging me when he was talking about reading and how it makes you conservative. And then you were like, that's you, dude.
Starting point is 00:01:53 And then I didn't even share them all with Saruti, but we had professors that were ready to kill him. So, yeah, there's professors that listen. So maybe you're on to something. I don't really think of it that way. professors that listen so maybe you're on to something i don't really think of it that way have you have you weighed in on how often you think about the roman empire because i feel like that question was literally geared towards you i've already read stuff so i was like we're good right i was in a big roman empire like when i was reading through all of their different versions of governance i was like this is so fucking stupid.
Starting point is 00:02:25 We can't stop being the same people. Location, era, BC, AD, we're no different. We just have more technology. We're no different. Whatever we think, like whatever is going on, we always think there's a better option. And maybe that's a great way to live, but it's also exhausting. And maybe that's a great way to live, but it's also exhausting. So whenever I'll like be sitting, reading one of these books and I'm just like aghast out loud, I'll be like, oh, and then I'm like, wait, how old are you now?
Starting point is 00:02:55 Cause you would have never done this in your twenties, likely not your thirties. Like, why would you read a chapter about some? So I honestly, I'm going to stop myself. But yeah yeah when this roman thing started started making the rounds i was like well which version what what are they actually thinking so i i don't ever think about the roman empire i do think about world war ii like i would probably say three or four times a week just being like whoa that was fucking crazy like that guy thought he was gonna take over the whole world just random thoughts like that
Starting point is 00:03:24 no it's good i like it because i mean another perfect example this is one of the things about history that i don't like there's a lot of books on history there are yeah you i you don't have to challenge me on that there's a lot and so what happens is is like you read one and then i read a different one and we're convinced that whatever my take is like i'm right and then you're wrong because we just read different books that may have explored different parts of the storyline i played 18 holes with bushman matt bushman was staying with me he was my roommate for five days it was awesome to have a roommate i actually liked it again not going to do it long term but i liked it and so we started talking about rommel, right? Rommel was asleep on D-Day.
Starting point is 00:04:07 So Rommel is in, and this is amazing because Bushman goes, the African theater. And I went, what a great term. Yes. Did he know that he was asleep on D-Day? He slept till like noon on D-Day. We were simply in the African theater. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:23 So I'm sorry. You're right. Yeah. The Desert Fox. Right. The Desert Fox. So we kept it to that. And so whenever you look at, I didn't know that much about it. So when the states, the allied forces get there, you've got the French who are changing their mind every day, the English that want to be in charge, Churchill who takes credit for shit that he never wanted to do. And then when it works, he's like, I told those sons of bitches. And you were like, dude, three days ago, you didn't want to do this, whatever. But Rommel flies back to Berlin to be like, look, we're winning.
Starting point is 00:04:56 We keep winning because like Rommel was kicking everybody's ass, but he knew long-term this is not sustainable. Every ship, there's thousands more troops their resources are endless we're trying to fight russia we're in italy like this whole thing doesn't make a ton of sense we need to just fall back and make a defensive position that is impossible because we're just going to get thinned out here even if we're beating them at all these different battles which they were they were kicking their ass in the beginning rommel flies to germany and tells hitler like hey it's not going to work this isnel flies to Germany and tells Hitler like, hey, it's not going to work. This isn't going to work. And then Hitler doesn't let him go back to Germany or doesn't let him go back to Africa. But Bushman was like, yeah, well, there's also
Starting point is 00:05:32 a huge gas shortage. And I was like, yeah, but he flew back to see Hitler. And we were both convinced that like, hey, I'm not saying you're wrong. And all it was that we read two different books. So there you go. So is Saban is Rommel and Lane Kiffin is the new, the new, new kid on the block. If we're segwaying, cause you're going to, you're going to title this like football talk. And we just did 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:05:56 So I love it. Rommel though, by the way, was asleep on D day. He, I think he slept till like noon on D day. It was like, Oh fuck.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Imagine waking up like, you know, you know, when you're, or he might've like noon on D-Day. It was like, oh, fuck. Imagine waking up. Like, you know when you're... He might have been traveling on D-Day. That moment, like every now and then I'll do it maybe once a year where I'll forget to set an alarm or my phone will get unplugged or something like that. And that panic you have when you wake up a little bit later than you should
Starting point is 00:06:20 have woken up and your alarm wasn't the thing that woke you up. Imagine that, but also like every country in the world is invading you that'd be way worse than i'm gonna be like that would suck that would suck whenever i've read any stuff about d-day then you i mean again you know the winners write the history but when you go through the german command and where guys were and what they decided to do and then like at one point along the coast they're like let's just defend this peninsula and they're like you just cut yourself off entirely now you guys are defending this worthless strip of land um that
Starting point is 00:06:55 i would say towards the end there's a lot of german decisions tactically you're like how the fuck did you make it this far they were kind of going off vibes at the end. They were like, let's just try to do this. No, I also want to correct myself because I know that your audience will correct me. Rommel was not asleep on D-Day. Hitler was asleep on D-Day. Rommel, I think, was traveling for his wife's birthday. That was what it was.
Starting point is 00:07:17 He wasn't there. He was traveling, so he wasn't there, and he was supposed to be in charge. But yeah, they were going off vibes and just kind of being like, they were basically doing like 10 game parlays, 10 player prop parlays at the end. Being like, if we just hit one, you never know. Yeah, what time does Hawaii kick off? I've got to make this back. Yeah, right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I don't know that I love the Saban comp. I don't think, I just don't want. Oh yeah, people get mad about that. All right, so yeah, that is the, I actually am very curious what you think, because I don't want to reverse the interview. But you always are very, like, tuned into SEC and what's going on. And we've buried Saban before. But this time it does feel different to me. And I was at Tuscaloosa for the Texas game.
Starting point is 00:08:02 And the way the fans were talking was like a lot of how the hell do they not have a quarterback? Like, how is this possible? The funny thing is the beginning of the Saban run at Alabama, if you dug into it, they actually weren't getting the top recruits at quarterback. So they were doing that without the top guys. But again, it was a different game 15 years ago
Starting point is 00:08:23 when they got this thing rolling. Wait, who... You just said we've seen Saban dead before. When did he die? Every time he dies, he then wins a national title. But we've said he's... You know what I mean? It actually is very funny. I think the last time they were ranked
Starting point is 00:08:38 outside the top 10, they won the title that year. They die... We prematurely kill Alabama, and then they come back to life and roll off like a few titles so but this time it feels a little different i don't know i i do think saban doesn't get enough credit for adapting better than most coaches like the fact that like you just said the first like whatever it was 10 8 eight, ten years at Alabama where he's winning on defense and not great quarterback play,
Starting point is 00:09:07 and then this last stretch where he had the best quarterback and, like, maybe the greatest wide receiver room of all time, that, like, three-, four-year stretch, and spreading everyone out. It's like he needs more credit for adapting where other guys have not been able to adapt. Yeah, we had David shaw on and he brought
Starting point is 00:09:25 up i haven't really like look there's other things that popped in my head other than a david shaw quote for the last week but when i was watching bama like i was far more worried after and worried is is relative because it's not like i was depressed because alabama won a close game against south florida but whatever you thought you felt at Texas, even though they won against South Florida, then I was like, okay, wait a minute. And I knew Milrow wasn't really going to be the guy. I think the fact that they brought in Buckner from Notre Dame told you, okay, wait, he wasn't even that great there. And then they had moved on from him for Hartman, who I think is terrific. And then Simpson's a five-star kid. He's a second-year guy. He was fourth in the class.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And then there's another young guy that we were talking about with McElroy, which would seem to be a little urgent. But you'd still think – the whole idea was that they were going to have this big offensive line and they were going to run and they were going to get back to kind of like old-school Alabama football. That might have been a disguise that they're that lost. And they're on year two of a massive downgrade from wide receivers so
Starting point is 00:10:25 whatever whatever like shaw was talking about with the 10-year rule with bill walsh that after 10 years like even if you think even if you go into the office you're 10 you're not working the same way you're not the same way in a relationship like you're married right think about all the nice stuff you used to do well yeah pre-kids yeah a lot of nice stuff traveling like let me doing stuff you're actually probably you're probably great with it but like even if you were having kids you're like i want my kid to do this i don't want to do this and then you know he's 12 and he's watching euphoria upstairs you're like all right whatever i don't feel like telling him to turn it off so i just i just think human nature and this isn't like some
Starting point is 00:11:03 big revelation but it's just that human nature would be that the saban downfall should have already happened as great as i think he is it should have already happened so the fact that we have hints that it's possibly happening is really hard for me to even process but the south florida one because my big rant was like can they actually lose to a bad team for the first time ever because it doesn't happen since u.l mon, his first year. Yeah, yeah, that's the one that everyone points to. I also think, and obviously I'm high on Tommy Reese.
Starting point is 00:11:32 You are as well. We both know him. But I do think that we, as fans, sometimes forget how many guys leave that facility every single year and the turnover and how difficult that is because it's just there's definitely a brain drain that happens with these elite elite programs where you i mean you've seen clemson struggle with with their coordinators leave and i don't know if that was all the coordinators but when you have guys that you can trust and they've been in those
Starting point is 00:11:59 situations before and they know how to navigate themselves out of it and then you lose them and now you have a bunch of guys who've never been in this situation i i think the coaching does come into play with some of this stuff because saban can't coach every player you know so i we kind of forget about that sometimes but but the way normally i would totally agree like okay finally there's too many cracks right there's too many bodies that have left brain drain great term but the weird thing was after it kept happening i started thinking and i'd ask and be like do you actually go to tuscaloosa you're like i have to do the best version of my job i've ever done that you're so motivated to kick ass because you know if you do your sarka texas your kiffin who i didn't i didn't think was ever going to get
Starting point is 00:12:47 this high profile of a job again i just didn't like when when they were playing washington in the playoff and all the stuff around that and you were like man what the hell is going on with them and he was moving on and then it starts feeling like okay i don't i don't even know like where where is his career going and now he's back at old miss and he's a he's a real guy again and so even though there's so many coordinators that go in and out they felt like the rarity where you got the best from guys because they knew what an incredible opportunity it was um but maybe this is the case you know i have look i'll have a hard time ever being critical of tommy because he's a friend. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Right. Same. Impossible for me. Same. And I do think he's very good. I also one way to sound smart. If you are just trying to sound smart at the bar, you can always just be like, well, they did lose their strength and conditioning coach to Georgia. And then Georgia won two national titles because that's my favorite thing and I think there's truth to it that the strength and conditioning coach outside of the head coach in a in a college football program is the most important guy you have on staff because he's with those guys every single day for the entire off
Starting point is 00:13:55 season for the season everything and so that guy left Alabama after 13 years to Georgia and Georgia's won two national titles huh maybe I don't know was is is actually that how we should phrase it is Scott Cochran the real genius Nick Saban kind of overrated has like seven national titles in the last 13 years or 15 years you want an age guess on Scott Cochran oh uh i'm gonna say late 40s give it to me oh okay so he's probably should we start that debate is scott cochran the goat the goat because i don't know i'd have to do the math but if he was at alabama for 13 years he's been at georgia for three years he's got to have what at least six seven national titles
Starting point is 00:14:44 you can own this one i think you're early on this i don't yeah no it's probably happening in a more regional sense but i remember uh there was a writer for the boston globe named ron borges who despised belichick just hated him and then belichick would like win a title and then he would just be like yeah wouldn't hire him wouldn't you know just i mean it was nasty and it like he just kept it kept getting worse i mean to have that take early after the first super bowl and be like i don't see it um but then yeah but but then belichick went through like a down period you know based on his standards and and borges would be like doesn't want anything without romeo romeo now yeah and the guy behind the guy like what are what are you talking about? And then
Starting point is 00:15:25 it would like be, I think there was one you could, you could argue like so-and-so hadn't won without Todd Haley. Like if you keep going, okay, but it was this coordinator, but he had this guy. And then it just keeps going on and on. Maybe Scott Cochran is the guy. And honestly, it makes me think every single business should have a strength and conditioning coach based on what you just said and the productivity and understanding boots on the ground like how are the troops yeah get your hands hands on the guys every single day speaking of strength and conditioning how's how's your guy billy doing uh billy is good he didn't move he's he's in new york uh he's still doing macro dosing with pft but uh yeah he's he's i think he's
Starting point is 00:16:06 trying to get strong again he's got he's got double squat racks in his house i by the way have a squat rack in my house now which i'm looking forward to letting you use when you come to chicago for the uh nba combine i didn't almost kill myself putting in the squat rack because i was smart and i had someone else build it for me, which is a total emasculation move to be like, here's my big, heavy, uh, you know, gym equipment. Let me hire someone to build it for me. Smart move, smart move. Cause like, if you haven't used a wrench in a while, you're just going to, you're all, your fingers are going to be bloody at the end of it. Like, why is this hurt so much the whole time? So you're actually going for it
Starting point is 00:16:44 because I've argued that you're far more handsome than you're giving credit for. I think you like being in every man. I think you like, I think in a weird way for your own success, you've kept yourself less attractive. I can, I know this theory. I can, I can honestly tell you that is not the truth. I know this theory. I can, I can honestly tell you that is not the truth.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Um, I would love to lose 20 pounds cause I think I would just have more energy for my kids and for life and everything. Um, but I appreciate that cause it is kind of like the, the old, like, oh, I didn't even try on that test. So if I got like a B, like, well, if I had tried, I would've got an a, like if I tried, I'd be a supermodel, but I'm not going to try. But I do actually want to lose weight, so we'll see. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:17:30 I'm buying stock in it. I'm buying stock. Thank you. The other stuff is too late, but if you turn it around. But I think it'd be weird for your audience to be like, wait, is he good looking now? Yeah. What is this? In your 40s, it's the hottest you've ever been?
Starting point is 00:17:42 I think that would freak people out. Yeah. Yeah, because I think I don to you know do the midlife crisis thing i've watched you from afar and it doesn't look fun that's good now you got the fat one i got that one so yeah we're good we're gonna even play no i know i'm i'm not even offended when people say it'd be like wait do you do this oh you do this? Oh, you do this? And then you did this? And wait, didn't you do that? And I'm like, yep, yep, and yep.
Starting point is 00:18:08 But I don't feel like I ever had a middle-life crisis. I was so bummed out in my 20s that I'm like, I already took care of it two decades ago. Okay, so wait, do you think in your, because you and I are into it on Saturdays. Like, I love Saturday. I can't stop watching I mean you know when I was sitting there with Cal Auburn the other night I go you know you could probably go to
Starting point is 00:18:29 bed now you know and I was like I don't know I just want to see how Auburn looked and they looked like shit I thought Cal should have won that game but do you have give me some like I I may think this by week seven or eight of college football like who you think I mean just real simple stuff like who you think is good who you don't think is good. Because we got to no one is good really early, record time this year. Yes, absolutely. It's kind of crazy how fast that happened. I do, by the way, root for no one to be dominant
Starting point is 00:18:57 because those are always the most fun college football seasons. I have a thought, and this we'll find out very quickly. I think that a lot of people are kind of sleeping on Ohio State. I do think they're going to win on Saturday night. Because Notre Dame is one of those teams that everyone wants to be good.
Starting point is 00:19:18 It's the Texas. It's USC. You have these teams, these traditional teams. You're like, oh, it'd be more fun if they were good. Nebraska. But I think Ohio State, we've all kind of slept on it. And same with Michigan.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Michigan's played no one. And we keep saying, who's the dominant team? I think Michigan might be in that category. They're really, really fucking good. And then in terms of out west, which that is the story of college football right now, which is so funny because if the PAC 12 could have, could have done this year, two years ago,
Starting point is 00:19:49 they would probably stay. Cause they probably would have been like, name your price on a TV deal. Cause it is the best conference as we stand week four, going into week four. I really like Washington. I don't know. There's something like they,
Starting point is 00:20:03 they are electric and I, the PAC. There's something like they are electric. And the Pac-12 will almost definitely cannibalize itself like it does every single season. But watching them play, they feel like they can just put up 70 on anyone, any night. And I think that, like, if they go up against a USC or an Oregon, they'll be able to go toe-to-toe with them and score for score. And it really comes down to who has to play at Utah because that really is always the trip up for the entire Pac-12.
Starting point is 00:20:31 If you have to go to Utah, your season's probably fucked. But the Pac-12 is the most fun conference to watch in terms of quarterback play, in terms of fun teams this season by far. It's not even close. I know you hate that, but it's not even close i know you hate that but it's not even close yeah but i love that it's the pack 12 i love that this happened like we have i think there was some number that we've had four ranked matchups in all of college football on tv to pick from and this week alone we have three pack 12 games where both teams are ranked yeah um yeah
Starting point is 00:21:03 you know and i like penn state too. I'll throw Penn State in there because I think Georgia will be there but what we're going to do with Georgia for the entire season, because if you look at their schedule, it is the weakest schedule of any of these teams we're mentioning. We're going to do the thing that we always do when a team doesn't have to play anyone. Like, are we
Starting point is 00:21:19 sure Georgia's good? Are we sure Georgia's good? They haven't really played anyone. And then they'll probably go to the SEC Championship game and play a combo Bama LSU or Ole Miss and paste them and be like oh yeah fuck Georgia is good so I they always are kind of without even saying it I know that they're there I'm glad I caught enough of the South Carolina game because if I had just seen the score I may have thought I'd be like hey what's going on there? But watching it, and then once they came into the second half and they did whatever they wanted, and the use of the running backs and everything, and then Beck is obviously very talented and everything. So I'm not going to worry about Georgia, but it is a bit like Michigan with
Starting point is 00:21:58 the schedule thing where even though I was laughing, I was like, wait, they've got three and O Rutgers. I was making fun of Rutgersgers, Nebraska on and on and on. Like when the big 10 is lean, you can almost get to week nine or 10 before you really know what's going on. But just watching Penn state, I'm like, I think they're good. I just think that they're good. I love the Washington call. I love the Pennix has been there a second year, but the sad thing for the PAC 12, we're just talking about the playoff part, not realignment, which you argued for. I don't argue for. You want to just jump in there?
Starting point is 00:22:28 Like, where are you now? Okay, where are you now, though, on realignment? Because you used to tell me historically it's what always happened. We're supposed to get over it. But any new thoughts with some of these? Was Stanford and the ACC anything? Yeah, I mean, I think that the SEC screwed it for everyone,
Starting point is 00:22:42 and so did the Big 12. The Big 10 had to just do a move to try to keep everyone together by swooping in and getting Oregon and Washington after USC and UCLA. No, I am not in favor of realignment. I'm also just a realistic person where it's like, what the fuck am I going to do? I'm still going to watch the games. And yes, there are parts of it that definitely suck,
Starting point is 00:23:05 but I try to be a glass half full guy, unlike you who's doom and gloom all the time, like, oh, I'll buy a boat and all my problems will be fixed. I try to see, hey, look, the Big 12 is going to be awesome. The new Big 12 is going to be awesome. And not only college football, I love college basketball just as much. Like Arizona and Kansas are going to play
Starting point is 00:23:24 maybe twice a year coming up with the new big 12 so as much as it sucks i'm more of a like hey we're just going to have to find new ways to enjoy this because i will continue to enjoy college sports do you know who's in the big 12 right now that you like so much right right now or coming up right now i mean ucf is in the big 12, correct? Cincinnati's in the big 12. Cincinnati's got a big one against Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Uh, I, yeah, the big 12 is going to be fun. Arizona being added is going to be fun. It's good. The big 12 is going to be BYU is going to be fun. Like that's going to be a very,
Starting point is 00:23:59 very fun conference in a couple of years. I think that was the one saving grace of the entire you know oklahoma texas moving usc and ucla moving pac-12 being gone i'm happy that the big 12 is still going to be the chaos uh conference and it's going to be a lot of fun to watch because that's what it should be you did a good job with that you know i figured you would know because you bet so much but there have been moments where I, I forget, you know, you know, like with football,
Starting point is 00:24:27 like I'm going to admit something that I, that I shouldn't admit. Um, but you'll, I'll be like seasonal, right. And every now and then in the beginning of a football season, I'll be like,
Starting point is 00:24:41 wait, what happened? Oh, that guy's there. Um, like I, I forgot the Khalil Mack was on the Chargers. Well, so do Chargers fans because he hasn't been heard from. But we do, for part of my take, we had Jake make a slideshow of new players in new places.
Starting point is 00:25:00 In college or pro? Because college, good luck. I was going to do a transfer portal segment and i go this is just gonna be 30 minutes of you listing names it's stupid so i didn't do college is i did nothing bum me out more in week one when i realized i think it's louisiana tech maybe is where he is i realize i i i somehow bet on hank bachmeyer and i like turned on the game and i was like fuck dude i hate this guy what the hell so like college you no chance but pro yeah we do it we do a slideshow to be like adam thielen's on
Starting point is 00:25:31 the panthers remember that like all the all these uh guys because you're right it does sneak up on you you're like how the fuck is he there wow the the college one is stupid you know what let's let's just ask a quick badgers question. I was very excited. I was excited about putting together these two different versions, which is always a little aggressive. You're like, we're going to be a tough-nosed defensive in the Treasures, but we're also going to go air raid on offense. Mordecai, who we know would put up numbers.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Mertz is down in Florida, which I still think he kind of reminds me of the Mertz that I was like, I don't know. I don't know. Like, I don't think it's, it's drastically different. I know the first half against Tennessee was really good. Is Wisconsin kind of meh? Okay. So this is all about expectations. Um, I have gotten ahead of myself by the way. Yeah. Yeah. I got ahead of myself. I was like, I was going to do some weird Wisconsin big 10 stuff like right before the, and I go, I'm pulling back. I'm pulling back a little bit.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Yeah. Yeah. I was very, very high. I think that just resetting your expectations, you can't, not everyone's going to be Colorado where they just get 50 transfers and you see results right away.
Starting point is 00:26:41 And we'll see what happens with Colorado for the rest of the PAC 12 season. But Luke fickle is a phenomenal coach I think Wisconsin was more broken than people realize some of the stories that came out about recruiting and just like you know I I liked Paul Chris he was he was a very good coach but like the enthusiasm for recruiting going after guys. It just felt like it was lacking. So it was more of a overhaul than we realized because Wisconsin fell off, but they never fell off to the point where it's like a two-win season, right? So it never got so bad that you say to yourself, oh my God, how are you going to fix this?
Starting point is 00:27:19 Like a Nebraska has been falling off. So I think it's bigger than I realized. I really do think luke fickle is is a phenomenal coach and the right guy it's more like i thought maybe there was they were a 9-10 win team this year it's probably more 7-8 and then just keep progressing from there and even the washington state game like i knew that game was going to go bad before i said that i'm very nervous about this game cam Cam Ward is absolutely electric. There were some calls that I disagreed with,
Starting point is 00:27:48 but I don't complain about refs, but I did like how much the Badgers were fighting, and it was clear that everyone has bought in, and those are the little pieces that you have to see in a rebuild that, again, I don't think that people realize how big of a rebuild it kind of was. Okay, fair answer. You know it better than I would, but my disappointment is just like you. It's based on kind of the expectations of, wait, I think they could be really good this year,
Starting point is 00:28:15 and now I'm like, do you really want to pick them against any of the other three? So I probably don't want to do that. Get ready to start the NFL week off right, because right now all customers can get a no sweat, same game parlay for Thursday night football. Just place a three leg, same game parlay on this week's game between the Giants and Niners, and you'll get bonus bets back if you don't win. Okay. This spread is minus 10, which we all know is just a massive, massive number. And going into it, you were thinking, Hey, is it cool the Giants had this historic comeback, or is it way more uncool that they were down that big to an Arizona team that's supposed
Starting point is 00:28:54 to be tanking? When again, they're not really tanking. It's not like the guys are trying to lose games this early into the season, but we get the point. We know they're not going to be a good football team, and they got down big. So the line is still 10 on FanDuel. I wouldn't really want to lay 10 points for a primetime game, but after watching that Giants, so let's do this.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Let's look at some of the other stuff. Brock Purdy is over one and a half even money on the touchdowns. Christian McCaffrey receiving yards. So 25 or more is minus 182. But if you look at McCaffrey, he's actually been running way more than he's been catching the football. So I've just been thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:29:36 He's 20 carries, 22 carries, 42 carries. That's 116, 152. It's been awesome on the ground. Averages of seven and six yards per game but he's only gotten about eight targets now so if there's a payout here to see them and i'm just kind of thinking of like hey mcafree's not we're running them a lot let's dial that back let's actually get him out and get him some more catches. So plus 50 yards receiving is plus 240. Over 60 yards receiving is plus 400.
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Starting point is 00:31:08 We all know the story nationally. I'm with you. I kind of feel like the Oregon-USC thing are going to be wake-up calls. But if they get their asses kicked, because I just don't know if they can stop enough people passing the football. I think TCU is an example of that. I thought Colorado State ate them up with certain, like that crossing stuff. They just never really stopped and it just kept happening over and over again. So, but I don't think this should be like,
Starting point is 00:31:32 oh, there you go, told you so. Like, I don't know, that'll happen in some corners because I think whatever this is, it's already a success. Like after whatever the record is, I feel like this first year is a massive success based on like this is going to be beyond what any cu fan thought it would be and you know look i don't think they're winning nine games maybe that's the best version of it but i would hope people don't point to it if they lose and go like oh this whole thing was a fluke because i
Starting point is 00:32:01 think most of us that are actually like paying attention to this understand like that day's coming pretty soon in a matchup with a team that's like a top 10 team right right it is coming and i do think there will be that reaction um which you just have to deal with but dion it's crazy what he's been able to do i dion let me ask you this it does dion have maybe one of the most fascinating careers of anyone in sports because it really doesn't get talked about enough how insane it is that he was this hall of fame cornerback played baseball played in the world series then did like whatever it was 10 15 years of media and now he's a major power five coach that is having success there's no one that has that type of resume and the juice that he brings to Colorado and just the excitement
Starting point is 00:32:53 it's crazy I think he's like a one-of-one type of guy I really don't think that there's that that he's kind of screwing it back to like the Badgers he's kind of screwing it for everyone else who thinks that the turnaround can happen so quickly because I don't think anyone can replicate what Dion is doing. And let's just say too, because people will be like, how's he doing? The guys he's got are really fucking
Starting point is 00:33:15 good. Shador Sanders could have played at a power five, any power five school. He wanted Travis Hunter was the number one recruit coming out of high school that, you know, the Florida state thing he was, he was at Florida state was convinced they were going to get him so it's not like he's doing it with nobody's he's doing it with very very talented players but i it's really shocking to see how quickly it happened and it's just so much fun to watch like dion is college football right now he is the story of the of september it's funny with him because like
Starting point is 00:33:45 there'll be a wave of support and then it'll be really old school and some of the people that wouldn't support anything old school are then left in this kind of quandary like wait i think i'm all in on this guy but i don't like that comment i don't like that perspective i don't like what he's saying there and now it's success in the field so like i don't know what his approval rating ever is. He's not going to be for everybody. I'd also suggest that I've seen other head coaches that are hired by really passionate programs
Starting point is 00:34:12 that people shit on immediately. When Gene Chizik got off the plane at Auburn and there was one guy behind a fence screaming, we need a leader, not a loser. That's Auburn. Auburn is maybe the most toxic fan base by far there's no pushback here's sam and steve and i will like do an auburn five minutes on the phone every now and then where i go whatever you think crazy is then there's auburn yeah and yet they still are like really
Starting point is 00:34:39 good once every five years they're kind of like the kirk ferentz programs where you realize why you're still passionate about it because and i'm not even like necessarily talking about iowa because i think you know american eats farmers were very pro iowa other than that one year where danny and i went at it way too much uh that's that's one of the lessons of watching i could not get past that iowa wisconsin game the year people were arguing for iowa to play for a national championship and i thought wisconsin just gave it away and i I'm like, Iowa stinks. Do not fall for this. And they ended up getting it. I thought they were going to be. But Deion is somebody that's not malleable, can become unpopular. But I think him being unmalleable is one of his greatest strengths.
Starting point is 00:35:22 And even watching him with his kids when they were watching an NFL game, and I think Shiloh's going like, yeah, we could play these guys next year. And Tia's like, what are you guys talking about? You're not leaving. Yeah. You know, and if that were any other coach, can you imagine like a basketball coach
Starting point is 00:35:35 sitting next to his lottery pick going, and look, Shador's the guy that'd be going high, but he's like, no, you're staying. You have to stay on campus next year. Like people be irate. So he's not for everybody, but I don't know that he's ever changed. And he also, his story in recruiting is way more compelling than anyone else's. Like he can sit in any living room in America and be like, Hey, you know how you want your son to make it to the pros
Starting point is 00:36:01 and get paid and be his worth. Well, guess what I did? I did all of that. I made a position that never got talked about, a talked about position and all the stuff that he did at Florida state. And then getting drafted, like he is, he was NIL before NIL. He was the, the, the, the player, uh, you know, gets to decide the player rights before any of that stuff. So he can sit down and be like i am the guy i am the guy who knows that the goal here is to get to the nfl but yeah you're right his sons he can
Starting point is 00:36:30 basically he could basically do whatever he wants i did like i think it might not have been shiloh might have been uh deon sanders jr who called uh danny cannell a hoe for real um so that was the whole for real yeah that was danny danny danny had to know that was coming when he's criticizing dion and then the immediate first reply is hey danny cannell's last play as a starter was dion sanders pick six like you gotta you gotta be tightened up there you gotta know that that reply is gonna be coming for you so look i'm not gonna sit here and endorse every danny cannell tweet but i like danny but it was that one he just stepped on he stepped on the rake there there's two dannys okay there are there are two dannys and the the twitter guy takes an absolute beating um and by
Starting point is 00:37:23 the way that that wasn't that wasn't accurate the that was his last start ever because he started i knew as soon as it came up like it got turned into today was the day maybe it was it's a 25 year anniversary and that's why he's doing all these things i think danny as a null was upset that deon yeah basically like ever since then he's kind of like fuck tallahassee yeah i don Yeah. I don't care. I don't care. You know, there was something this year earlier where he was like, Florida State didn't do anything for me. I was prime before I showed up and all this different stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:54 And Danny was like very simple. I didn't even think this tweet was that bad. He's like, why would you say that? Like what? And then it started down this road where his kids are calling Danny Cannella ho for real. It's a great comeback, though. What do you say to that? You're a hoe for real?
Starting point is 00:38:10 No, I'm not. And then it's like, okay, so you're just a regular hoe? There's not many comebacks. No, no. One NFL question. Where are you on your Tua support right now? Oh, I'm high. I don't know that I really believe this.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I think you just want to align yourself with dangerous people. No. All right. So the Tua Non, my membership in Tua Non is for real, and it's because I actually like Tua the most coming out of the draft. I thought he was better than Justin Herbert. Joe Burrow is a different category because Joe Burrow is phenomenal. But Tua, he did karate in the offseason, learned how to fall.
Starting point is 00:38:49 That's big. Learned how to fall. Learned how to fall. He's a media learned how to fall. Like Sixers fans are telling us, no, no, no. He falls down. This is he learning to fall. Somebody should do some parody, Tom Petty, but I don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I don't know how to use garage band. Learning to fall. But yeah, no, I think Tua, we'll see because Mike McDaniel, we saw this last year where the start of the season was electric. Then people started to kind of figure out what he was doing. But he does feel like Mike McDaniel, the play caller, is getting into that Kyle Shanahan story or territory where he's going to scheme it up better than anyone else.
Starting point is 00:39:24 And what they were doing against the chargers um was like putting putting tyree kill in like short motion some of that stuff it's it's really really hard to guard against a team that everyone can run faster than everyone on defense so i'm a believer into it he's getting the ball out fast i think he's been hit like four times learns knows how to fall. I think too. He's, I think the front runner for MVP right now. So you have egg on your face.
Starting point is 00:39:49 And, and, and meanwhile, Justin Herbert just keeps losing games. All fair. Greeny has him. Number one. And it's not close.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Not close. We have an MVP. We have a greenie MVP tracker that we're checking in throughout the season. I mean, I think you and I both agree that it would be a phenomenal story it probably should happen but it will never happen is micah parson should be the mvp because i don't think there's a better football player than him right now every position you rather have micah would you rather micah or tua on the bears oh probably micah because we'll probably tua would probably get concussed, like getting off the plane.
Starting point is 00:40:26 So same ownership and then not resign him. Probably Tua would probably show up to house hall and like bump his head. Like, Oh, there's another concussion. Fuck. If he's learning to fall through jujitsu, he needs to get sacked and then come back up into like some role and then
Starting point is 00:40:39 like get up in fighting stance. Just the karate fingers. All of us. Yeah. I love, thank God for sideline reporters. Cause it extra jobs it's extra opportunities out there but man there's some nights but it's also you and i like when you're on hour 10 and you're like he started doing pilates and his aunt is actually the best athlete in the family the best was remember that
Starting point is 00:41:03 holly row from oregon oregon state when she's like my niece went to oregon and the oregon state fans were really mean to her one year it's like what are we doing right now because the other thing is there's different broadcasts that will be like hey let's go to the sideline like you know beginning of the game injury check-in set the tone second half, what's happening late. Like there's certain Fox NFL where there's maybe three hits. Right. Like the main sideline person.
Starting point is 00:41:31 There's certain college games where it's almost like different directors for films would be like, okay, use more natural lighting. There's other guys being like, go back to the sideline, check in again, she's got something. And you're like, this is 12 check-ins. My favorite is, I think they obviously have it planned if there's a blowout. And Cole Kublik, who's a friend who does a phenomenal job,
Starting point is 00:41:53 I always know when there's a blowout in the SEC, Cole has to eat the biggest burger or pet some live animal on the sideline. It's like, oh, let's go to the blowout script. Here's Cole stuffing his face. He's got nothing else. It's like, oh, let's go to the blowout script. Here's Cole stuffing his face. He's got nothing else. It's a 40-point game, and it's 10 o'clock at night. Okay, all right. So this is a good segue as I asked you about Tua and Parsons.
Starting point is 00:42:16 This is something you and I have kicked around. It was going to be a summer topic, but we're doing it now. We need a title for this. but we're doing it now. We're doing, we need a title for this. It's essentially cross fan base city trades, cross sports. So that's not the best title yet, but the concept is would a fan base in this city
Starting point is 00:42:35 give up this player on one team in one sport to another team and their fan base to get back a player from a different sport to solve one of their problems. So if you didn't have a quarterback, but you had a good NBA player, would you trade that good NBA player for another team's quarterback? Then he wouldn't end up on the bears. So that's basically kind of what we were talking about here. All right. So the first one, I know you have a couple for me. Would I did a real dud for you. This one's bad bad but let's just start off with a bad one
Starting point is 00:43:06 would chicago give up io for mac jones so that means io is not on the bulls he's on the celtics would this you get mac jones would this even make the bottom line of sports center it would be the first cross city trade and people like what who cares like both teams right i should have started off to be good i've got some real yeah okay okay let me do a better chicago one for you okay because that one wasn't the real headliner i should have i should have worked down to that as opposed to work my way up but i just was trying to think of like what's a reasonable quarterback that they could get for somebody that was on the bulls maybe it's more about the bulls than it is anything else.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Yeah. You can think about it. Let that one marinate. Let me do a better one for you. Would the Chicago fans give up Conor Bedard for Anthony Edwards? So Anthony Edwards is on the Bulls, but no Blackhawks Bedard. I don't think so. I don't think so. Conor Bedard, if he is what everyone says he is, I don't think you trade I don't think so. Conor Bernard, if he is what everyone says he is,
Starting point is 00:44:06 I don't think you trade him for pretty much anyone. I really don't. I think I'd say no to it. I also am biased because I did buy Blackhawks season tickets the second that the Blackhawks got the number one pick. So that would really bum me out because I'd be like, wait, why did I buy these? But yeah, I think that's a no.
Starting point is 00:44:23 I think that would be a no. Yeah, because this is a little complicated. Because like, hey, guess what? Hockey guy who hates the NBA. I know your answer. Right. But I think you're a better test. All sports.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Yeah. Right. Right. Case study for this. All right. Would they do Connor? Would you do Connor Bedard for Luka in a Bulls uniform? That one I would probably do.
Starting point is 00:44:43 That one would be tough because that's like luca is he is he is him he is he is he right so i think i think i might do that let me check his bio i think so luca but we would have to make sure that he just never orders portillos we'd have to like put up a put up a sign at portillo's and be like do not serve this guy okay uh i got another one for you this one all right so san francisco oakland fan base says this curry run's been incredible but can you imagine justin herbert on on the niners can you imagine shanahan with this guy would that fan base be cool that were the clippers because it's a chargers rule here he wouldn't go to the he wouldn't go to the lakers the clippers get curry oh and i don't know i don't know how many chargers fans there are in la anyway so i don't think i don't think they
Starting point is 00:45:36 would do that just because of what curry means to to the warriors right i i think that that would be the the stop right there but it is an interesting one because Justin Herbert is young and you're basically like, hey, we had this great run. Maybe let's because Justin Herbert in the Niners would be, I don't know how would they could be stopped? They would never be stopped, right? And I like Brock
Starting point is 00:45:57 Birdie, but that's a tough one. I have a tough one for you. All right. Would the Sixers... I can't wait to see what you're doing with this. Would the Philadelphia... I have a tough one i have a tough one for you all right would the sixers i can't wait to see what you're doing with this would this would the philadelphia i have a tough one and one that's a little outside the box but the first one was would philadelphia trade jalen hertz for devin booker all right okay so you're putting devvin Booker on the Sixers. Which is pretty much like that's you'd have to say that team is going to be almost impossible to stop.
Starting point is 00:46:33 The Cardinals get a quarterback. Okay, the Cardinals get a quarterback. Eagles fans can tell themselves, okay, our roster is still incredible. Like we can find someone else do you think that that i have my that might be a trade that would be done maybe throw in uh would phoenix do it yeah phoenix you think they care but they might maybe they don't care yeah they're gonna get caleb williams and we don't really care yeah yeah okay here's here's another one this is the outside the box one would the kansas city chiefs trade patrick mahomes for the entire dallas mavericks organization
Starting point is 00:47:11 so kansas city gets a basketball team i love this one because i was trying to figure out a tatum one like which tatum quarterback thing could i do and i actually wrote down tatum for burrow and it was like 5 a.m and i go hey dickhead cincinnati doesn't have a basketball team tatum's just gonna live there and hang out so that doesn't make a ton of sense and then i couldn't do buffalo then i couldn't do lamar unless i wanted to make the wizards but that's really the commanders i couldn't do it for trevor or Jacksonville, and then Mahomes was just... So basically, all of these really good QBs,
Starting point is 00:47:48 it didn't work for the NBA star because they didn't have NBA teams, and you just fixed it by offering up an entire franchise. I actually still think Kansas City would say no. Ooh. Yeah, this one, though, gave me a pause because you get an entire franchise in Kansas City. You're now two sports or
Starting point is 00:48:05 three sports because the Royals but like you I don't know that's a tough one maybe they throw in the stars you get Patrick Mahomes on the Cowboys and you just you you now are just purely a football town um obviously the Rangers are still there but that's that would be interesting Kansas City becomes a force-sport city. They lose Patrick Mahomes. They already got two titles with him. You know, figure it out later. It's not an easy one.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I still think they say no, though. Yeah, they probably do. I still think they'd say no. And look, I know there's football guys listening who are like, I don't even watch the NBA. Like, I get it. We get it. We understand.
Starting point is 00:48:43 That's not for you. This isn't for you. Yeah. Seriously, that's a great a great would you trade potentially the greatest quarterback to ever play still in his prime 10-year runway at least on this who knows with modern science with twitter now um that's uh x videos do you get it right you get an entire franchise okay i got another one for you let's go let's go big headliner here would the la fame fan base give up shohei atani to milwaukee oh so that means the lakers or no yeah yannis and and the Milwaukee Brewers get Otani. Well, the Lakers would definitely do that, obviously. I don't know if there's any Angels fans out there.
Starting point is 00:49:33 And Giannis, doesn't it feel like Giannis is now doing the things that he said he was never going to do, where he's like, I might leave if it's not all set. And then he's like, well, actually, I just want you guys to sign all my brothers. So maybe you say, say hey we can see the future here and and and show hey in milwaukee would be pretty fun and we won a title with yannis we'll just go back to being the bucks without yannis that's an interesting one here's the problem is that no baseball player is worth what yannis is to a basketball team and it's not true that yannis is better historically than shohei as we've already
Starting point is 00:50:12 covered what otani is and we can get into injuries and free agency and all that kind of stuff too which would be another part of it but if you just take it all out as great as otani is and what he could end up being historically it doesn't guarantee you anything Giannis for the next however many years guarantees you a chance at it so the basketball fan base would say yes to that yeah I want to probably say no yeah maybe throwing Mike Trout makes it interesting makes it real interesting real hard to say no advice yeah let's do life advice by the way did you get shit for the um i was listening to your show the other day uh talking about jets fans flip-flopping did you get shit for that yeah a lot people jets fans are psychos they do not flip-flop they're diehards i was speaking specifically to the group that i grew
Starting point is 00:51:00 up with and it was it was um i didn't look I was just trying I was trying an open I was trying something I was that I was like look I'm trying to be sympathetic and guys were like that was the least sympathetic sympathy of all time so don't like try a different tone yeah so yeah there was a lot of people who didn't like it and you know what we we appreciate the feedback and we're sharpening all the edges you know yeah yeah I just know from living in New York for seven years that they ride for their teams and they hate. Like Islanders fans hate Rangers fans. Jets fans hate Giants fans.
Starting point is 00:51:33 It's pretty like they really, really hate each other. You know what I did? I did a small sample size on what was convenient to me. So it was a different generational thing. And there was a Parcells carryover that was driving me crazy with those guys. And I'd like wait you guys are jets fans now and but and they'd be like well it actually more jersey guys are jets fans i'd be like yeah except for all the years you weren't jets fans and so that part annoyed me i do think there was a rangers devil look i explained
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Starting point is 00:52:43 Here we go. Did I get punked at the gym? 30 years old, 6'1", 185, bench squat, deadlift, max at 225. I haven't attempted to go higher due to past injuries. Or you're soft. No, I'm just kidding. Basketball comp Dwight Howard with a hangover. Can't shoot, can't dribble, solid post moves.
Starting point is 00:53:00 He actually didn't have solid post moves. Can jump higher than anyone on the floor. Generally bad at basketball. Advice needed. Fellas, I'm writing in to ask, one, did I get punked at the gym? Two, did I successfully save my dignity with my retort? Three, how should I have handled this situation?
Starting point is 00:53:15 Or other similar situations in life at the gym? I'm reading too fast. Recently, I was at the gym. One that I frequent three to four times a week i like to believe that i have a better than average gym iq and many of the local big guys have mutual respect simply because they see me in the gym at all times wow shout out to the big guys i was drinking a lot of water as usual gotta stay hydrated on the creatine diet for this reason i was heading to the hallway into the locker room bathroom to make room for more water i saw another guy walking towards me heading for the same hallway he was
Starting point is 00:53:48 roughly 30 40 feet away no big deal i started to pick up my pace as i noticed he was an older guy maybe 50 55 classic slow walker i thought i didn't want to get stuck behind him walking down the narrow hallway to the pisser the hallway offers no option for passing this is a super narrow apparently. I wanted to get in and out as quickly as possible. He sees me picking up my pace and appears to make the conscious decision to match my pace. Maybe this old guy's not as slow as I thought. We arrived at the entrance of the hallway at the exact same moment, and rather than act like a Neanderthal, I opted to respect my elder and let him go first. He was moving pretty quickly after all. The moment he gets in front of me, the man proceeds to pump the brakes,
Starting point is 00:54:35 walking painstakingly slow down the long hallway. It was clearly a ploy to punk me out and show he was the alpha old guy at my gym. He was a big dude built like a former fullback that had not lost his gym rat mentality in retirement. He was easily 230 and would easily kick my ass even at his advanced age dude he's 50 he's not 70 like yeah he was probably gonna kick your ass i had to think fast and let this jerome bettis-esque monster know that i saw his game respected it but wouldn't willingly take his disrespect after all was not a big deal almost funny but i like to think uh but i'd like to think i don't take shit from anyone especially unwarranted all right thinking on my feet i made the split second decision to walk directly behind him uncomfortably close as he intended what happened next he couldn't have planned for i proceeded to blow a steady stream of gym breath on the back of his bald head letting him know i'm right here pal pal. This luckily didn't lead to confrontation, but made my presence known.
Starting point is 00:55:25 I'm a hundred percent. He noticed as I was spewing wind, like I was playing the kazoo. Nothing ultimately happened, but I was mentally prepared to have words with this guy. If you ever turned my way, we went our separate ways. He went to the lockers.
Starting point is 00:55:37 I went to the can never to be seen again. So I have to know, am I overthinking this gym altercation? You want a quick answer? Well, well yeah what was the title of it did i get punked yeah because then he figured you know he's like am i overthinking it was i in fact being punked easy to say this is what i have done would have done but considering the split second decision i was faced with did i have the appropriate response to save my dignity how would have you handled this situation um anyway uh the hot breath on a neck is a tough like i don't want that right now just thinking about it no i i think the question the the answer to the question that he posed to start did i get punked yes uh not in this situation you got punked by writing an entire email to Ryan exposing yourself as a brutal narcissist and main character syndrome all over the place.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Because it started when he said the part about how all the big guys respect him. The big guys don't think about you, dude. They're not thinking about you. There's no. Yeah. Hold on. Hold on. Hold hold on hold on you might be right but there is something to like how the big guys just own the gym right and then i would always i would always talk about rick back in hartford because
Starting point is 00:56:55 he was just massive and he was stronger and probably thrown a few punches and taken a few over the years but he was so friendly but it was his gym that was his fucking domain and all the other guys were like deferred to rick so i think there was there was i can understand if you're not a big guy the other big guys being like you're okay this guy sucks this guy sucks this guy sucks but maybe you're okay so i'm gonna i'm gonna back him despite me leaning towards there is some main character stuff going on yeah i just think he's probably way too much in his head because this interaction feels like it was absolutely nothing, and he almost fought an elderly man over a hallway speed issue. I'm not close to elderly. What's elderly?
Starting point is 00:57:37 60, 55, 47? I just feel like 50 and 60 at the gym are two different worlds yeah you know yeah 50 50 you still think you have it i mean obviously i'm a little biased but yeah 60 is elliptical yeah yeah 60 i'm gonna hate everybody's guts yeah but yeah i i think i'm i'm gonna lean on you overthought this thing um it would have been funny though to get in a fight over hot breath on the back of the neck which this guy did have the right to fight you. I think hot breath over on the neck, a purposeful hot breath on the neck is absolutely grounds for fighting. I agree.
Starting point is 00:58:15 You're lucky you didn't fight here. I think what you did was excessive. So I don't think you got punked. I mean, clearly this guy wanted this hallway seems to be the bigger issue. I don't know who your architect was, but, you know, you could have just let him go. Like I let everybody like I don't go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Like how long was this this bottleneck going to take in the hallway? So you escalated it to a really high level. Maybe you got a kick out of it is kind of funny, but I think you're lucky here if this guy truly is a fullback who cared about getting to the hole before you did. I'm also realizing, I think he said creatine to be like, oh, I'm not on the real stuff. If you're getting mad about a hallway incident where someone's pace isn't there, I'm thinking you're on the gear.
Starting point is 00:59:02 I think this is a, he might be doing a little more than creatine because this can't make you angry yeah this can't be oh not with those numbers true good good point he's drinking he's drinking a lot of water because he doesn't want he wants the creatine to to absorb more so i think he said he's pissing all the time right and i'll defer to you you are the gear expert here nope Nope. All natty, bro. Okay. Girlfriend with only fans photographer. What's up, everyone? Appreciate you all taking the time to read this.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Don't have any weight room milestones, but a former D3 hooper that now plays in Europe. God, you have like the better athletic resume than anybody. You didn't give us anything. So I started dating this girl over here and had a disagreement over some half-naked to topless picture she wants to get taken by a quote professional unquote photographer he seems dubious i will attach a photo to give an example of what we're talking about her getting half-naked for a random photographer is not my favorite thing but it's something i could be okay with the thing i'm having trouble with is the exchange with the photographer first of all he has an instagram page that has a link to his only fans in the bio of it the content for his only fans page comes from the photo shoots like this one my girlfriend wants to do so the agreement my girlfriend this photographer
Starting point is 01:00:14 has that she can have the photos for free as long as he can post the pictures on his instagram but not only fans as long as her face isn't in it and she's unrecognizable she also tells me this time the photographer reached out to her saying he's got some stuff she would look good in. So it's not like she's doing the shoot because she herself wanted to take half the photos. Another important detail is she's done something like this with this photographer before we were together. So I don't really like the idea of more pics of her floating around the internet.
Starting point is 01:00:41 In addition to her having some weird, I'll do it for you for free deal with an only fans photographer so to avoid this i brought up the idea of just paying for the photos if she really wants them that bad that's what i would have done i agree with that move but she seemed less interested saying they'd be too expensive but didn't want to find out how much they'd actually cost so she just said no don't do that don't pay but it's too expensive and he's like you don't even know what it would cost so she asked me what i thought about it i told her i wouldn't like it but she can do whatever she wants she was upset i wasn't more supportive but said she wouldn't do it so basically i'm asking if i'm being unreasonable for not being comfortable with the situation would love to hear the thoughts it's a tough one I do think it's tough.
Starting point is 01:01:27 I think you should tell your girlfriend, just start your own OnlyFans and make a lot of money. That's what you should do. She wants people to find her attractive. She's probably very attractive. I think this guy, the photographer, is trying to fuck her. Let's just get that out of the way yes that's 100 you're right on that but if the end goal is that your girlfriend wants to be like everyone wants to be wanted right everyone wants to have the compliments be like let's let's start
Starting point is 01:01:57 up an only fans let's put a 50 50 you do it I'll be supportive there's a lot of money on only fans a lot of horny dudes out there. Yeah, well, look, we had one emailer. He'll probably sign up for it. So I think the problem here is that he's going to get her dressed up too on top of everything else, and then he's taking the pictures. Yes, there is some version of this that you're supposed to say, I support you, and even if I disagree, you can do it.
Starting point is 01:02:23 The emailer said, look, if you want to do it, you can go and do it. So her being upset that you're not being more supportive for something that you don't even want her to do, but you said you can go ahead and do it. And you offer an alternative. Like, I actually think the emailer is totally fine with this. I, there's also a level of like, how serious is the relationship? Is this somebody long-term? Like I dated somebody who was going to be a stunt double for a movie and she was going to have to run topless down a street because the main actress wouldn't do topless that's hot and my buddies were like how did you feel about that i was like i thought it was fucking awesome yeah yeah like i wasn't but granted her face was never going to be in it but yeah she would have would have been on set. She would have been topless.
Starting point is 01:03:05 She would have been running around. And they probably would have had to shot the scene. I don't know how many times. I would imagine it didn't take that much to get that one. But I was okay with it. But this private one-on-one photographer thing, if my fiance or something was like, hey, I want to start doing this. And I know this guy.
Starting point is 01:03:21 And I've worked with him before. And this guy's telling my wife or potential wife that he's got some outfits for pass. I'm out. Yeah. So I wouldn't be down with that. We did. We did get the Instagram. You sent me the Instagram account.
Starting point is 01:03:33 He takes great photos. I liked all of them. It might be the, the people he's photographer, you know, photographing, but good. He's a good photographer.
Starting point is 01:03:42 He knows how to get, you know, the nipples. Yeah. He's real. He's real. He's real. He's a good photographer. Uh, he knows how to get, you know, the nipples. Yeah, he's real. He's real. He's real. Uh, I, all right. So real, real actual advice here.
Starting point is 01:03:51 I think your problem is you aren't comfortable with it. And then you felt bad that you weren't. And you're like, I support you. You got to have an honest conversation. You got to be like, this is why I think this is a little weird because the problem is if you say go ahead do whatever you want then she does it you're going to hold that for a very long time like i really wish she hadn't done that you have to just tell her i really wish you wouldn't do this and here's why and if she's like well fuck you then you got bigger problems but you'd rather know the bigger problems than holding this in like if she goes and
Starting point is 01:04:23 does this and has only fans and all these you know topless pictures and everything you're gonna be pissed for a very long time and i feel like the relationship is gonna fall apart because of that you're gonna hold that resentment so honesty is the way to go here you have to tell her exactly why maybe even reverse it be like would you like people to take a picture of my cock okay maybe i'll do only fans cock pictures she probably wouldn't be down with that that's a pretty aggressive pivot you got to have a big cock too if you're gonna if you're gonna because if she calls your bluff like i could never say that because then my bluff would be called and it's like well who's gonna buy like a four inch dick on it only fans it's just way it wouldn't be good with a fat
Starting point is 01:05:06 belly you've always been very honest about this okay all right we got another one um the title is i look like borat 510 160 bench 245 good numbers hey r, I'll keep it short. I look like Borat. My slenderish face, black curly hair, and mustache give me a Borat resemblance. I thought it was funny when people would mention it at first. I even played it up by dressing up as him for Halloween one year, but it's been three years of this and I'm tired of it. I can't help but utter a fake giggle whenever someone says I look like him now. The constant, has anyone ever told you you look like Borat? Hurts me to my soul. All this is manageable. It could be worse, of course, and I can solve the
Starting point is 01:05:49 issue with one clean shave. Here's the issue. My girlfriend loves my mustache. Anytime I bring up the desire to shave it, she gets upset. We started dating a year and a half ago, and she doesn't know the man behind the stache. My current plan is to go as a couple's costume for Halloween that requires a nice shave because most costumes are worn with the stash. All it really gets people to think I'm Borat anyway. So he wants to come up with a Halloween idea where he has to save the mustache. He asked, what should I do? I love my mustache and my girlfriend, but hate being called Borat. Maybe I just need a witty comeback whenever someone mentions it thank you for the advice love the pod more than my stash all right so this guy looks like
Starting point is 01:06:31 borat you saw the pictures right like this isn't this i don't think you sent me this one i didn't send you this no i need to see the picture to to fully forward it to me right now but yeah this is um this is tough because you gotta yeah i okay i got i got some ideas off the top of my head i think what you need to do so i i haven't seen the picture and i'm about to see the picture a mustache is tricky because i you know i've had a mustache i have a full beard now but i've had a mustache many times in my life it is something that um can play incorrectly in the wrong crowds and you can be looked at very differently so what you have to do if you are a mustache guy you have to change how
Starting point is 01:07:13 people see you it's probably more about how you dress and it's got to be like a heavy dose of hawaiian shirts uh you know like some like you got to be the fun mustache guy, like more like a Tom Selleck than a Borat. So I think that there's a way to get around it, but it's going to be on you to figure out what you're wearing every day because it's not just the mustache. Mustache is not everyone's like, oh, Borat, unless this guy really does look like Borat. But I think you have to I think you have to start. You have to change your entire wardrobe and just wear Hawaiian shirts every single day. And then you're just kind of like party guy, mustache guy, not Borat. Okay, did you get it?
Starting point is 01:07:52 Okay. Oh, yeah, this guy's Borat. Never mind. Nothing he can do. Fuck it. No, he's Borat. He looks, here's what I would give him. He's Borat. He looks... Here's what I would give him. He's Borat. He's Borat.
Starting point is 01:08:05 He looks so much like him. Dude, there's not... He's wearing a costume of Borat every single day. There's nothing you can do, dude. Do you realize how funny it is that he said no matter what he wears for Halloween, everybody thinks it's Borat anyway? Dude, you can't wear a mustache. He has to shave his mustache. He has to shave his mustache.
Starting point is 01:08:26 He has to shave his mustache. Like, that's the solution. Now, the problem is his girlfriend is really attractive. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, okay. All right. So just on my feet here, trying to think this through, I think what you got to do is you
Starting point is 01:08:39 got to take a negative into a positive. I think this guy looks so much like Borat. He's got to sign up for Cameo and start making some some some money on the side as a borat impersonator and then you can be like it's kind of like my entire existence where i've made like i've always gambled my entire life but now i can in the back of my head be like when i lose money every single saturday and sunday i'm like well i'm kind of doing my job you need to do this where it's kind of your job, where you're making enough money on Cameo
Starting point is 01:09:06 as a Borat impersonator that you're like, well, it's not that big of a deal. These people are paying me like 20 bucks to do their fantasy football draft as Borat. That's a good solution. He looks so much like him. That's a very good solution. It might be some of the best advice
Starting point is 01:09:23 ever given out here. The reason I say like, if your girlfriend loves this mustache most guys would continue to be called bore out the rest of their lives to date somebody this attractive so there's that right um there's there was something else i was thinking about you know because like i get the the e and the name thing every single transaction of my entire life right every time card goes down every time anything and then somebody says it to me as if it's the first time and i'm just i just go yeah you know whatever i like it for me to be bothered would make me the asshole actually right right but this is a little more annoying and it is crazy how you could be like hey this guy looks just like borat and i'll give him this he actually looks like a more
Starting point is 01:10:01 attractive borat yes would you agree there yes but he is borat he is literally borat what if every time somebody said it to him he just has a a catalog oh yeah like hey has anybody ever told you you look like kathy bates with ibs just like every you like you kind of look like jeremy renner but shorter you know just every single time have like 10 of these and just be ready to go. You can make them way meaner than I'm making them now. Um, and that might be your own little joke, your own for an audience of one, just yourself. I love doing it at the grocery store. I'll say something like, why are you making that joke? And be like, I guess I made it for myself getting older, but I really, I really liked that but you're you're you're cameo even
Starting point is 01:10:46 though i think you and i you're not on it right because no i'm so much we made us packed i've always said that if i uh am on cameo that means i've lost all my money so if you see me on there that's it's over it's it's i've lost all my money that's why i'm on there so please act accordingly and do buy the cameos if you ever see me on there because it's that that's a desperation move i just look though cameo does not have a borat impersonator so you have the market dude like you know what'd be great is if your accent sucks yeah you're the worst borat cam so like don't learn how to do the accent and maybe you don't even get any trouble but you just do it in your normal voice but read the lines oh like a philly borat right right so people are buying borat videos from a borat impersonator who's terrible at the impersonation i like next level
Starting point is 01:11:36 i like it okay i have one or two options i have a different one i sent you another one do you care about this one that was checking in on me because yeah well we should do that because i gotta run in a minute but we should check in on you because i think people probably are wondering um the last time i was on this show i like ruined the chemistry of this show for about six months i actually ended up feeling a little bad about it um but i also gave you guys content because you basically you were able to make a storyline of uh kyle wanting to hang out with you so yeah let's do that one because we'll check in on you okay i have that and then i have a quick one and then we'll we'll say goodbye because i know i kept you longer than i thought i would all right yep okay uh 5 10 190 jeremy lynn comp uh i burn fast but bright and am asian late 20s still enjoy a cold beer with my buddies,
Starting point is 01:12:25 watching the NFL at a local pub. Location unspecified, but let's say our city's politics are known to be out of whack. One may say a little windy. Oh, I get it. I'd like to think that we as a group are the positive general demographic and represent your audience. Take that as you will. Middle-aged men with diversity in careers, ages, and personalities,
Starting point is 01:12:42 unified through watching sports. We have this one friend who dips in and out of the group chat around three times a week. Let's just say he's well off in his mid forties, owns a boat, often very astute sports takes that we very much appreciate, but wish we could show up a little more often and talk about his life as a friend group often does. We talk about our friend behind his back, sometimes express mild concern. I know Ryan's doing well, but is he okay? heard ryan or you heard ryan bought a boat do you think he's happy did you hear ryan stood up kyle again i will admit it's a little strange that all of us collectively share this like concern hence this email i now uh i know you
Starting point is 01:13:14 often joke about being okay as the lone wolf but as your listeners we'd like to check in with you you bring so much joy and laughter to men and their girlfriends who half reluctantly listen to life advice across the country and apparently the world how are you doing ryan uh i'm fine i can i can i speak to it because i i do think that this comes from a place of love of your listeners ryan's doing fine i i obviously ryan and i become pretty close friends talk all the time ryan's doing fine he's just a different cat he's just a different cat that's just and a different cat. That's just, and I'll say this too, because there's, you know, the whole Kyle, you hanging out, Ryan's a very fun guy to hang out with. We, we, you know, it's probably like two or three times
Starting point is 01:13:53 a year that we're in the same city at the same time and able to go out. It's a very good time. He's a fun hang. Um, I know that the loner thing, you probably, you probably lean into it a little bit more than uh you know you are but yeah i think you're doing great i i people people like to they they think like oh if you don't have the kids you don't have the wife all that thing like something's up i i daydream about your life sometimes because i have no i i don't have a second to myself i appreciate that yeah i don't know i've opened up about some things but there's not really anything to open up. I've, you know, look, that thing I talked about, like twenties, trying to figure out who you are, thirties line about who you are in forties. You're
Starting point is 01:14:30 like, fuck it. This is who I am. Um, that's where I'm at. You know, it's not always the best, but neither is anything else. So I would say I'm, I think it's kind of a funny email or whatever, but I would get from the outside and I understand anyone from the outside of being like what the fuck is that guy's deal and some people can just straight up be like i'm not into him without even knowing him because that is his deal and i also am cool with that all right last thing here last thing sorry i made that brief because also just one last thing on that the it's actually like a great compliment when your audience cares that much that's a reversal that I had to like. Yeah, but it's like one guy.
Starting point is 01:15:07 But I had to figure that out, like where it's like, why do you, why, like my audience cares about me and so they care about what's going on and sometimes you're like, oh dude,
Starting point is 01:15:16 why do you care about this? Like, no, that's actually a great thing. If they stop caring, that would be a bad thing. Haven't hung out with Kyle. Yeah, that will come, I guess. I don't know. I don't really hang out. We hung out that will come i guess i don't know i don't really hang out in denver i also i don't i that that was overblown too because like look hank is like
Starting point is 01:15:33 probably the closest person in my life outside of like my wife and kids like we don't go out together often or if ever like if we're if we're on a road trip we will but it's not like on a friday night i'm like hank what are you getting into i want to come hang out it's just not it's not that's not like it's just it's just different stages of life i don't know it's it's and you you definitely will bounce oh like i say no to the side like right i'll say like okay i haven't done anything forever like tonight's the night and i'm going for it. You will even in that mode be like, I don't want to deal with this with kids tomorrow. Like I'm out of here on top of everything else. People stop asking, which kind of hurts my feelings, but it's also like, what do I expect?
Starting point is 01:16:26 I say no to everything that is outside of like any Friday or Saturday night thing. I'm like, nope, going to sit. That's the best part is like, I have kids, but Ryan and I are doing the same thing every Saturday night.
Starting point is 01:16:39 I'm just, I'm in my basement watching every single game by myself. I'm literally like, that's my happy place. That is my happy place. That's what people always like. What would you do if you retired? I will retire the moment that I have enough money to lose it all in
Starting point is 01:16:52 gambling. That's when I'm going to retire. So like, that's my happy place. Like my, what my retirement would look like is exactly what my real life looks like. Watching every game,
Starting point is 01:17:02 gambling on every game. And maybe I'd sleep in a little more that's about it and be in better shape or worse shape i think better but that's also you know there's a lot of ways that i can trick myself to not go into the gym okay last one last one and then we'll say goodbye this will be quick all right um somebody sent us a listing in a neighborhood that you would know okay okay and they want to know what you thought of this zillow description of this listing okay i like this charm location history one-of-a-kind opportunity in one of america's most beloved cities need some work new additions were a choice,
Starting point is 01:17:47 but may not fit long-term vision of new owner. Low taxes, but committed. Committed HOA means strong reserves. Full disclosure, there was an attempted murder of main tenant from 2009 to 2016. He lived. Previous owners neglected upkeep and maintenance, but this leads to your chance for a one-of-a-kind property to either renovate or a full teardown.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Reimagined in your vision. Price tag $6.4 billion. Billion dollars? You just got NFL Zillowed, kid. Oh, no. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That one hurt. right thank you i like i just by the way i love any
Starting point is 01:18:31 any listing i know this is a joke listen but any listing that starts with charm is my favorite i my favorite line in that was committed hoa yeah like because whenever i've looked at properties in chicago not that i'm moving there i'm like oh that's not even that bad that place is sick did you see the hoa is the same as the mortgage payment you're like what the fuck anyway that roof that is the roof check out his podcast we're trying to listen i remember it was like wait please please subscribe to part of my take we're trying to make it out here in this crazy world. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Check it out. You guys will like it. It's this little up-and-comer, Pardon My Take. Say hi to PFT. Say hi to everybody for me. You guys are awesome. And just so everyone knows, if you don't listen to Pardon My Take and you just jump in for the first time, we're on a big lighthouse kick. So that will probably last for the next month.
Starting point is 01:19:22 We've been giving Hank shit about the new lighthouse at foxborough so um a lot of lighthouse talk we've probably done about 20 minutes of lighthouse talk for the last week and a half so well here's a little tip check it out check out the lighthouse listings they're way cheaper than you would think way cheaper than that one in chicago um we covered it some guy wanted to move to a lighthouse he's like wait it's only 300 grand but i think it's i think it's a little bit more challenging than having the most amazing oceanfront property for like a few hundred grand. Some, some things you have,
Starting point is 01:19:51 uh, your friend. Thanks, man. All right. Thanks, Ryan. Thanks to Kyle.
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