The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Bills' Statement Win With Trent Dilfer, Ranking Tennessee After the Alabama Win, Plus an NBA Playoff Team Draft

Episode Date: October 17, 2022

Russillo shares his five biggest takeaways from NFL Week 6 (0:32), before he is joined by Super Bowl champion Trent Dilfer to discuss Josh Allen vs. Patrick Mahomes, the 6-0 Eagles and specific improvements QB Jalen Hurts has made, the Packers’ lack of identity without Davante Adams, Tennessee’s win over Alabama on Saturday, QB Hendon Hooker, and more (18:20). Then Ryen gives out his weekly rankings of the top 12 teams in college football (53:11). Finally Ryen and Ceruti draft their 16 NBA playoff teams (1:03:25), before answering some listener-submitted Life Advice questions (1:12:27). Host: Ryen Russillo Guest: Trent Dilfer Producers: Kyle Crichton and Steve Ceruti Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We are packed today. Trent Dilfer going over everything. I've got my top five things from week six in the NFL, my top 12 as well in college football. NBA will do more on Wednesday with the night starting it off on Tuesday, but Serena and I did a playoff draft as well. And we have life advice and an announcement from Kyle. Let's talk week six.

The five most important things that I saw from this weekend of NFL football. We're going to start with the Chiefs posting the bills. Now, it's a battle for the one seed and the way the standings look at now, which I'll start doing more throughout the season, even though it can be irrelevant at times, is where we are at in the AFC. Buffalo, after that win at Kansas City, the one seed in the AFC. Kansas City is two. Who is number three?

Plucky, Tennessee. Every time you look up, you're like, hey, look at Tennessee with a higher ranking. Going in, I wasn't sure that there was going to be an outcome to this game that was going to make me feel one way or the other, other than I just think these are the two best teams in the NFL. Two best quarterbacks the two best teams in the NFL. It's the two best quarterbacks, the two best teams. I know Philly won again last night. I just don't think Philly is as good as these two teams. And I think that's totally reasonable. But I wasn't sure there was going to be an outcome that was going to make me think different.

And throughout the game, that's kind of what was happening. Oh, the Bills are moving the football, then having some problems in the red zone, which is unlike them. And then Kansas City having their own issues at times. The whole first half wasn't much offensively. I like the Bills' defense better. It's better defensively. It's not much of a debate,

even though I love a lot of the personnel changes Kansas City has made and some upgrades there. And I think that defense will only get better because of so many young players that are playing. But then you get the Vaughn Miller factor, Milano, the linebacker, who really kind of, I don't know, unheralded or whatever you want to call him. That guy's a stud for Buffalo. So it's back and forth, back and forth. And it really is the modern version of

Brady and Manning because we are this lucky that we're going to see Mahomes and Allen face off for what, at least like seven years at the least and beyond that because of how young they are and how special they are. I don't know that it's going to be Brady Manning on the resumes. Brady's resume to me is unobtainable. Manning, perhaps more obtainable, at least on the Super Bowl wins. Statistically, you know, we're talking about the third third biggest passer in NFL history. The difference is this is like if it were Brady Manning and they were the sickest athletes ever. This is the best version of the modern day quarterback where I can burn you with a run, but I don't need to do it.

But I'll bring it out when I need to. And that's why any running quarterback that comes into the league, I'll be like, that's awesome, but you've got to do all the other stuff first. Use it as the extra thing, an extra weapon, not the main weapon. And that's the key of why Mahomes and Allen are so good. One of my favorite stats that I'll track all season long, how do you do on third-down conversions? How do you do preventing third-down conversions on offense? Buffalo and Kansas City are so good. One of my favorite stats that I'll track all season long, how do you do on third down conversions? How do you do preventing

third down conversions on offense? Buffalo and Kansas City are number one. And it's the same feeling for both fan bases. The other team has a third and eight, third and nine. You're like, eh, normally I feel good. But not going up against one of these guys. And that's the difference. You want to talk more stats? Buffalo right now with this

win is number one in offensive and defensive DVOA, which is basically a stat that they use to try to make everything as even as possible. It's adjusted for schedule. That is the first time an NFL team has been number one in both those categories after week six, the first time since Tampa Bay in 2003. We've covered it. It's the best two QBs, the best two teams. Kansas City, I thought Romo brought up a great point that if you want to look at some things

they don't do as well, because Kansas City's defensive stats are going to match up to Buffalo's, even though it looked like they did a really good job against Allen for most of the game. But Kansas City is having some problems here. I don't know if it's a real thing. I don't know if it's just the short part of the season against number one receivers. Mike Williams went off. Pittman had a good game. Evans, Adams, and then Diggs went crazy yesterday. And as Romo was saying it, Diggs

hits for a touchdown. You can argue, hey, we were down a corner. Welcome to defensive back depths or the depth charts in the NFL at this point of the season. Tampa Bay was missing three of theirs. Pittsburgh was missing three corners and Minka Fitzpatrick. So it's part of it. We try not to use injuries too much as an excuse.

Sometimes you can't say it's anything but injuries. We'll get to a little bit later. But in this case, I can understand that Kansas City part of the argument. The best part of this is that now it feels like the AFC will run through Buffalo. And I think an even better part of that, other than just what we feel like could be home field advantage, although it feels super early to just assume, oh, it's going to be in Buffalo and Kansas City is going to have to go up there.

It's that if it were the other way around, if Kansas City ended up being the number one seed and you'd have a rematch of Buffalo at Kansas City, if you're a Bills fan, you don't have to hear about how, well, can the Bills really get it done down there in Arrowhead? Even though both of these games are about as close and as even as you could get them, and I wouldn't say that there's some weird hangover, there'd be some storyline bullshit that you'd have to deal with,

and now you don't have to deal with that because, one, the Bills won there, and if it were to work out, you'd feel like, hey, they already beat them in Week 6, so why can't they do it again in the playoffs? But it could be a really cold game for Kansas City going up there, and honestly, Buffalo should be 6-0. I know there's plenty of teams that could play that game where they start messing with all the what-ifs in their schedule, but that Miami game was such a fluky, weird win as we had covered before.

Number two, the NFC contenders. How do you feel about them? Well, at least the ones we thought were going to be contenders. Let's not focus on the standings now as much as Tampa Bay. They lose at Pittsburgh. They're 3-3, though. They're still first in their division. The Rams are 3-3.

Green Bay loses to the Jets, and the Niners lose to an Atlanta team that's also 3-3. Atlanta's another one of those teams where every single week you're like, wait, Atlanta's in this game? They've been in every game this season. So the Niners on the injury front, that's where I actually think we can apply the injury excuse because by the end of that game, it was brutal. I'm going to sound familiar, Niners fans. So I'm going to put the Niners off in a separate category because I don't know what to make about my concern with them because I still think defensively when all the guys are there,

it's one of the five, maybe three best defenses in the NFL. Green Bay, we're going to get to. Let's focus on the Rams and Tampa. But before we do that, if we look at all four of these teams, look at the scoring drops from last season to this season. Tampa averaged 30 a game last year. They're at 20 a game, minus 10. The Rams were 27 a game last year, 17 a game this year,

as far as their offensive scoring output, down 10. Green Bay, 26.5 points per game, now 18, 7.5. The Niners down about five points from 25 points per game to 20. So that combined from those four teams, their scoring for last season compared to where they're at this season is a combined 32.5 less points per game between those four teams. Brady, his lowest QBR since we kept track of the stat. Was it the wedding with Kraft? How does that affect the legacy rankings with Bill going back into Cleveland 30 years later,

31 years later, and get a win against Jacoby Brissett with Bailey Zappi? Still need more data before I feel comfortable about the legacy rankings because apparently Belichick didn't go to the wedding. I don't know. Do you dock Belichick didn't go to the wedding. I don't know.

Do you dock Belichick for that, for not being a better friend? Again, I don't know. Cerruti could probably comment on that a little bit later. Right now, Brady's yards per attempt is kind of low, but it's been low before, so that's not the thing that jumps out. I think to be fair to Tampa, if we're still hanging on to what this team could look like in the second half of the season, the O-line has been

juggled all over the place. The receivers have not been consistent enough. It's another game where they look dead offensively and then they're a two-point conversion potentially pulling this off again. We saw the same thing against Green Bay. It didn't work either time. But Leonard Fournette is their leading receiver right now in receptions. But

Tampa's still in the NFC South and they're still in first place, and they'd actually be a three seed today because of that. So as bad as that's looked, I'm still more worried about the Rams because they're all lines of mess. They're 27th in yards per play. They're actually behind the Houston Texans.

Their number two receiver is Ben Skoranek as far as reception totals, and Stafford with another pick six. He's 6'8 on the TD interception split. I don't know how that gets fixed, and I'm more worried about what their division can look like if everybody else is right, more so than the NFC South. Number three, we mentioned Green Bay in the offense.

Now, this game is actually a little fluky. You get a blocked kick, blocked punt, but there's some stuff going on with Rodgers here that is real, and that is his problems with the deep ball. Let's go and take a look at the next-gen stats. Rodgers on balls with 20-plus air yards. That's 20-plus yards in the air past the line of scrimmage. From 2019 to 2021, he completed 36.5% of these passes. These are his deep shots. That's a good number.

His touchdown interception split was 28 to 4. His QB rating was 116. This season, he's completing only 20% of those passes with zero touchdowns prior to the Jets game. He did get one yesterday. And one pick, and his QB rating was 35. He was two, a seven on those throws, but the excuse very easily

could be the thumb injury. We saw that it was taped. We saw that Jordan Love was warming up on the sideline. So that actually be the kind of injury where you hope it's the thumb because Rodgers has not even been

close to being the same guy and no Adams on those throws, which changes a lot. And that's after losing to the Giants and Jets back-to-back weeks where you're thinking, should I be excited if I'm a Giants fan? Should I be excited? Look, the Jets, you should just be thrilled they won at Lambeau, all right? That wasn't supposed to happen.

But Green Bay, whoever they are this week, this is not the Green Bay of last year and the assumed Green Bay team with Rodgers that's still a really tough out. Number four, moving on to the New York teams. The Jets would be a five seed today. They're four and two. Their wins are against Brissette, Kenny Pickett, Skyler Thompson, and then again, Rodgers. So there's no part of me where this should be misconstrued as like,

yeah, you beat the Packers. I guess it is sounding like that. You beat the Packers, but whatever. All right. Maybe Rodgers is really banged up. But you won, and you're the Packers. I guess it is sounding like that. You beat the Packers, but whatever. Maybe Rodgers is really banged up, but you won and you're the Jets. So you haven't had a lot to hang your hat on recently, but we can find a way and the NFL community does tend to do this a little bit where when the quarterback you're not sure about, which usually means when you're not sure about, they're not going to be that good good more often than not right there's very few times where two or three years in you're like oh this guy ended up

being awesome right it can happen it doesn't happen that often and that's more of the case of daniel jones it's way too soon on zach wilson but if zach wilson in a loss completed 10 to 18 passes people are talking about zach wilson in a negative way on a monday in local new york talk shows like i mean Like this guy. He went 10-18, and that's why it was a little bit fluky. They get the win, that's fine. Again, that Jets defense looks like it's real. It's top 10 in a lot of stats right now.

The Giants on the other side, that's an incredible comeback against Baltimore. And as great as Lamar was in the first month where he was MVP, what of the AFC that first month? He's had a few games now where you say, hey, he's missing some throws. That last pick was brutal. But look, Mahomes had a brutal pick as well. At the end of the game, it can happen. And the Giants come back. We've talked to Ted Wynn about the stuff that they're doing. They're just trying to keep things a little bit more in check. But Daniel Jones has gone three games without a touchdown. I think he's had over 200 yards just once in a game. So nice wins for teams that we didn't expect much from. We knew the Giants schedule was going to be easy,

the way the NFC East lined up, strength of schedule-wise against everybody else. The Jets being 4-2 in itself is just sort of a miracle based on expectations. So it's kind of good. I guess you could just say straight up it's good. But don't let the wins trick you into thinking that you know you have a quarterback.

Wilson too early, Jones, I'm not changing my mind. The last thing I want to get you, number five, Jack Easterby. Let go today by the Houston Texans. This guy's got an unbelievable career. I'm going to tell you a story. He was the character coach with Kansas City in 2011, the team chaplain. He was with the Pats for six years. Then he all of a sudden got hooked up with Cal McNair

ownership with the Houston Texans where he then oversaw personnel like real NFL front office stuff once Bill O'Brien was gone. Now Nick Casario was there as well. I don't know that he necessarily had the final say on this stuff, but he was involved in all these things. And I think,

I believe, from what I'd heard, he'd sold himself on like, look, I've been around the past six years, the Belichick process, all these different things like I can help. And he got close enough to ownership to get this power and have a title that nobody ever saw coming. Like when he got that gig, I talked to a couple different Pats people that were like,

wait, what? Like he's like doing their draft board and shit like that's weird nice guy hell of a nice guy but that's weird and it reminds me of a lesson uh this isn't a secret to people who've been listening to me for a long time maybe people that you know just caught the show the last couple years when i started out i didn't want to be on the air i didn't want to be on the air. I didn't want to be on the air. I had really no desire for it. I wanted to work in a front office. And when I sent out a million resumes and all this stuff, story I've told them too many times, I was strictly about, well, how can I work for a team? And the irony of how it all came together is that the one minor league baseball team that

wanted to hire me because I was going to do sales, they were like, we'll put you on the air for a couple innings. And I knew how hard it was to get on the air, especially back then where you can't just buy a microphone now and be like, hey, I'm on the air. To get somebody to actually say, I want you to talk on the air for real, on purpose, and there's going to be a check every two weeks for it. That was an incredibly hard thing to do. So I thought, all right, if these guys are offering me this, which doesn't make any sense, and that's, again, a very long story, then I'll just go ahead and do that, throw it on the resume, and that's what will happen.

But I'll try to work somewhere in the gray area on some of the personnel stuff. But there's no personnel stuff when you're at minor league baseball. They're like, look, we just want to sell everything, sell tickets, sell ads, and there's no... The only time the minor league team is asked about a player, it's like, is he a drunk or a dick? And I wasn't in charge of that. So

anyway, I moved to Boston and I still really want to work for a basketball team. Okay. That before I was like, maybe I'd work for a baseball team. I mean, that's how locked in I was with all of my skills. I was like, maybe I'll do front office for baseball. Maybe I'll do it for basketball. I mean, again, it didn't really make any sense. Nobody believed in it and it didn't happen anyway. So I don't have to worry about it. But I met with an NBA GM and I basically was like, how do I get in? I don't want to be on the air. How do I get in? And he's like, really the thing you have to do is recruit ownership. Again, I'm 27 and I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about in my head he goes you need to

find out who the owners are and get to know them and if you can't get to them find people if this is really what you want to do your lifelong dream find the people that would potentially own a team and get in their ear he's like that's probably the only way that you're going to be able to do it you didn't play anywhere you didn't coach coach anywhere. You've never worked anywhere. You bring almost nothing to the table. So your best bet is to find a way to recruit ownership. And I left the lunch going, I think it's great this guy took the time to do that. I much appreciated something somebody did for me 20 years ago. And I can't believe the guy took the time to take that lunch. I left as confused as I was like, what do I do now?

I just start asking people if they're rich enough and want to buy a team one day. And I start telling them how smart I am about basketball shit. That makes, again, 20 years later, I'm on the air. So it didn't work out. Easterby is the fucking king of this, man. Because that's what he did. That's exactly what he did. Nobody could figure it out.

Have you seen some of the videos of him talking? Again, he seems like a really nice guy. If you're a team chaplain, there's a way that you're connecting to people. But that's what he did. And he almost pulled this off. Or I guess you could say he did pull it off. But the problem is for any organization, especially something that's this important, that's why fans and there can be so many struggles about what a team should or shouldn't do and what

it really means, because it feels more like a public trust than private ownership. And there's this emotional attachment to it that's beyond any other corporation, right? It's a difficult relationship because it should be more clear, but it isn't clear. And the reason it isn't clear is because it matters so much, which is actually a good thing for business. But if you have a team that you own, you're like, yeah, let's give this guy a shot. He's been bugging me. He hung out with Belichick. He walked around in Pat's hoodies. We'll figure this out. To put yourself in that situation is something you would think most teams would want to avoid, but not impossible. So keep trying, kids. Tip off the NBA season with FanDuel, America's number one sportsbook.

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Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Monday's with Trent Dilfer. Always a treat. All-time showdown yesterday in Kansas City. Allen gets the win against Mahomes. I don't want to guide you in any direction. I want you to have the floor here about what you see with these two guys.

Give me what you think is the most interesting discussion or the other QBs, the other people in the NFL that you talk with after getting to watch those two guys battle for three hours. I think there's a couple things. Number one, I think it just goes into this greatness bucket. And Parcells used to say the word great gets overused. And I agree. I agree with him. And like when I was on TV, I'd find myself saying it'd be like, that was stupid. Why did I say great? That was really good. Right. But with these two, it's greatness and greatness is making the nearly

impossible look easy. Like if you really want to make great hard to achieve, then it's making the nearly impossible look easy. And that's what these two do. The second part of it would be what other quarterbacks are saying. Cause I think you got to realize like, you know, you have some pretty talented guys that are, you know, some hall of famers have some pretty talented guys that are you know some hall of famers multiple pro guys that are on tv talking about the position uh you have a lot of us that are you know on this fraternity and we're texting each other we're commenting on stuff and we're all blown away you know it's like we're watching it going hey i you know i did that one time in practice or and i thought about trying that but never really was going to try it in the game. Whatever the conversation is, they're doing it routinely. These two guys are routinely doing

stuff that other quarterbacks say to themselves, yeah, I can't do that. No matter how much I work on that, no matter how much I really thought about it, no matter how much courage I have, I don't think I would do that. And they're just doing it consistently. I mean, I think Josh, his physicality, it's almost like he's got, trying to think of a good, Steve Young and Ben Roethlisberger in one body.

I think those are the two, right? Can you picture Steve Young's great historic runs, his toughness, and his not going down, his stumbling into the end zone. And every play felt like life or death with Steve Young. And then Ben Roethlisberger, who just seemed like a giant. He looked like, I remember in his prime, he was just so much bigger and stronger and more physically confident than any other quarterback.

You kind of combine those two, and then he's got the same arm as our herbert the same arm and he's got the art artistic qualities that mahomes kind of brought into the league it's like you're looking at the ultimate quarterback and then you're like oh gosh he learned a lot of this from the guys playing against mahomes who is stupid silly good and still does things that you can't believe um now i'll'll stop here, and then you can re-team me on something else, but it was the first time, too, I saw Mahomes get in trouble trying to do too much. Because I used to say, well, what makes Mahomes so incredibly

hard to stop is he does all the stuff that most coaches would call reckless reckless but he's hardly ever reckless like he doesn't make a lot of mistakes doing the sidearm off platform whirly dervish jump in the air throw it back across his body no look stuff he's made very few mistakes doing that over the last handful of years yesterday he made two critical mistakes doing it and he didn't have to do either one of them the one in of years yesterday he made two critical mistakes doing it and he didn't have to do either one of them the one in the red zone he should just thrown away back pedals create more time tries to throw a 50 50 ball gets picked and then the one in the game he doesn't

have to do that like there's nothing he in fact he misses he loses sight of the guy that picks it because he's trying to do too much. So that one, and I'm not criticizing him because, again, I led with, he hardly ever gets in trouble doing this. But yesterday was the first kink in his armor on that highly artistic, creative, blow-your-mind stuff that he does routinely. I remember, again, years ago, asked steph curry on an interview i go do you get bored sometimes because i've watched enough that i knew he got bored in games and he'd be like let me try this and he laughed because he couldn't say yes i get bored in nba games and try stupid shit but if you watched him enough during the prime you knew it was absolutely true

and him laughing to me like confirmed it i don't want to because kansas city lost to be like oh my homes i i do think there have been times other times in his career where you know the interceptions last year if you really looked at him especially the first half of the season i think half of those are like bad tips and it was like yeah it's not like he's not see you know my homes all of a sudden couldn't like became a guy who couldn't see the field i thought thought a lot of them were unlucky, but I do think there's a looseness to him. That is a much, it's much more of a positive than is a negative, but I don't want a Monday after with Trent,

we start going, Oh no, he needs to be a little tighter, a little tighter. Cause I would never want him to be tighter. I would never want him to be tighter. I mean, shit that play that could call back because the awful,

awful pass interference, the offensive pass interference on Kelsey, like the scramble on the play that you were like, or maybe it was an incompletion. There was that one scramble that it wasn't going to matter, and it was such a stupid play. I would never want him to rein it in because there's still way too much of a benefit.

Yeah, it was just a bad read. He didn't see the second defender. He throws a pick at the worst possible time, but whatever. I totally agree. I please hope nobody heard me saying I was criticizing. I'm in awe. defender he throws a pick at the worst possible time but whatever i totally agree and i please hope nobody heard me saying i was criticized i'm in awe in fact no no if i was his coach i would actually the last thing i ever say to him before the game kicked off was hey just go be you don't try to be anything but you now i do think there's part of this that kind of andy reed's genius is

also his achilles heel it's that he sometimes doesn't play conservatively enough. He doesn't protect his guy. And yesterday, they only called 14 runs. I think they had 18 rushing attempts because Mahomes ran four times. They only called four runs. And this goes back to the Eagles days when Andy would get criticized. I thought it was rightfully so. He becomes pass happy.

And, you know, last week they ran the ball really well. I think it was, somebody can look it up. I think it was like 180 something last week. And now this week it's 14 attempts. I think one way you can manage Patrick and manage, that's a terrible way of saying it, limit some of the negatives that could come with Mahomes' creativity is have more runs.

Have less people in the secondary. There is still something very true with rushing attempts. It brings more people to the line of scrimmage. If more people are near the line of scrimmage and Patrick becomes Patrick, there's less people in the secondary to defend what him and his receivers are doing. So I do think for the Chiefs to win the whole thing, that run volume has to be in the mid-20s every game.

It cannot be less than 20. Yeah, they were talking to Pacheco that they were using him more, and he had two carries. They have two really good backs yeah no no doubt uh but i'll ask you my favorite running back ever is charlie garner oh he was awesome charlie garner every handoff was like the last handoff of his life yes it was like you went to a guy and said this is the last time you're ever going to get to touch a football in a game and that's how he ran and you could argue hey that wasn't always the greatest approach at times because there was no like let's see what

develops he wasn't going to wait to ever but he was going to run he was going to hit that fucking hole as hard as anyone i've ever seen you missed him in tampa right you were already gone by then correct yeah but we played when he was in oakland so wait but you were never teammates you went up again no it's never teammates never teammates i think there's some pacheco stuff there nobody's ever going to be charlie garner to me but i love the ferocity that we saw from him and again that's not why they lost the game josh allen went right down the field against what i think is an improved chief's defense so i i left as i said in the open there wasn't really going to be an outcome where I spent Monday rethinking how I handicapped the Chiefs and Bills.

Agreed. But if you treat every game life or death, which I really do believe you should when you're one of the best. I believe you treat every snap like it's life or death, like it's the most important snap of your life. I think that's part of building championship culture. It's the most important step of your life. I think that's part of building championship culture. Then the Chiefs should check themselves on the play calling distribution yesterday. I think they should learn from it.

They don't have to be critical. You don't have to bury your head in the sand. They're still one of the top five teams in the league. But you're like, okay, if we don't call losing, losing, if we call losing learning, which most championship teams do, then we're going to learn that our dna this year is without tyreek hill it's multiple tight ends it's high rush volume it's more play action uh it's the way they played last week it's the way they played a lot of these games this year without tyreek hill is you can do this when you have tyreek hill because it only

takes one to become a home run. Like yesterday, think about this. If the Bills tackle, they don't get two of those touchdowns because those are just missed tackles. Those weren't explosive throws. Those were two missed tackles that got them touchdowns to Juju. So I do think this has to be a more physical, I don't want to say ball control when

you have Patrick Mahomes, but physical bring people close to the line of scrimmage. If I was just talking from 30,000 feet about the Chiefs, I'm a fan, I'm watching. I'm like, oh good, a lot of defenders around the line of scrimmage. We're going to be fine today. Oh, a lot of defenders out there in space. This is going to be tougher sled. Like you just want to bring people to the party because the more people that are at the party, the more damage Patrick is going to be tougher sled. You just want to bring people to the party because the more people that are at the party, the more damage Patrick is going to do on those door-in opportunities. Let's talk Philly. They're undefeated.

Of all the coaching staffs, and we're not even just talking about this year, but as we've seen the college influence go up to the NFL and sometimes it's looked like, wait, this isn't going to work. Is this staff

doing the best job with Hertz and the stuff that they're doing where it feels like the best adaptation? And granted, they deserve all the credit last year, too, for just going, hey, we've got Jalen. We've got to figure this out. We've got to fit this to him.

Where is this? Is this the best fit we've seen from some of those concepts with an nfl offense yeah and i and i really i appreciate what baltimore does that they do a nice job as well just because they've kind of played cruddy the last couple weeks i don't want to forget how well they've morphed um the college flair into the pros. And both of them have a... Yes, and I'll speak more specifically to the Eagles. No, you're right, though. I'm glad you said that, though, because I'm asking not knowing the answer,

but you can't answer this question without acknowledging what Baltimore's done the last few years. So good job. And I think Baltimore made it okay. That's the reason I always go back to them and when he was with the Niners. He was the first guy that made it okay. That's the reason I always go back to them. And when he was with the Niners, he was the first guy that made it okay. Like everybody in the NFL needs permission to do something. Very few coaches have the courage just to try something on their own. It's a copycat league.

You've heard every analyst say that for as long as I've been alive. And it's true. That's why everybody says it. He was the first guy. And again, I'm forgetting his name right now. That's why I keep saying um he was the first guy and again i'm forgetting his name right now that's why i keep saying he the office coordinator in baltimore that was in san francisco coach yeah roman uh he was the first guy that kind of made it okay to do this stuff because he did it with physicality and i think that's the key piece here there is no longer nfl college there's nfl physicality and college physicality the nfl

you have to have a certain level of physicality to how you play offensive football even if you're talking screen game like you'll see in the sec they'll run these line of scrimmage screens and it's pretty it's way more physical than the acc watch the acc do it it's way more physical than conference usa right that's fair you watch the nfl do it and it's way more physical than Conference USA, right? That's fair. You watch the NFL do it, and it's like SEC on crack. It's a whole different athlete going out because it's the best SEC lineman who's had seven years in the NFL. To understand it, he's the one blocking down the line of scrimmage

on a safety or a corner. You see the triggering of the secondary players. Like an NFL safety, an NFL corner that's triggering on this stuff is a different breed than what you're seeing in college. So what's not college and what's not NFL's physicality, there's a whole nother level of physicality. So now if you can find these college schemes, these misdirection, read RPO schemes and match the NFL physicality with it, now you're onto something. Because the NFL isn't used to, we saw last night, Parsons is not used to reading these things all the time in

the NFL. He probably was when he was at Penn State, but he's not used to it now. They're not practicing against it every day. You're only used to playing against what you practice against. And it's very hard to replicate that in practice when you're back up. I know he's starting now, but you're back up in practice as Cooper Rush, right? When Dak's there, or I know who their third string guy is, you're not replicating against a Jalen Hurts type player. And that was way too long to answer that question, but it's just a great blend of NFL physicality with college bells and whistles. And then here's the secret sauce to it that I heard one comment last night.

I'm glad he said it. They said, well, another great read by Jalen Hurts. And I went ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Like I'm a coach. We run this stuff. The secret sauce to it ding, ding, ding, ding. Like I'm a coach. We run this stuff. The secret sauce to it is the quarterback's decision-making. It's the same as reading down safety rotation, split flow, trap corners. It's the same intellect that it takes to read a coverage to read the box and the guy you're reading and his movements. And is he six inches

away from the end or is he 18 inches away from the end? Is his weight on his back foot or his front foot? Is his angle 45 degrees at me or is it flat down the line of scrimmage? And these are all decisions you're making when that ball's in the belly of the back and you're eyeballing the guy you're reading and you can't be wrong. And Jalen is a master. He was a master at Alabama. He was a master at Oklahoma. And he was a master at the elite 11. Like when we studied him and we're like, this is the best read player we've ever seen because one, he's a son of a coach. He's a football junkie. His IQ is off the charts and he's a grinder. and he, you know, he's all these things and a powerful athlete,

his decision-making in this read game is it's second to none. I mean, he re his consistent reads. If you graded his reads and it blows you away. Cause most guys are going to blow two to four reads a game, right? The best is going to blow two to four, just cause it's so fast. You really don't know and a lot of them guess a lot of them like oh i want to run the ball so i'm gonna put it in there that i'm gonna keep it he his read percentage of correct reads off charts yeah that touchdown to

davante was so like it was just so quick and the execution was perfect and it still felt like hey maybe all three decisions are the right decision because it was just such tight execution and i know with a lot of the spread stuff over the years we've kind of argued like it can look really different but some of the best teams are the ones that were like no we don't run a ton of different shit we do it out of different looks but a lot of stuff is the same a lot of stuff is the same. A lot of the routes are the same. A lot of this stuff is the same. And it just feels like, you know, I think there'll still be a game where Hurts is probably in the playoffs going to have to beat somebody with some deep throws. And that's different than the decision-making part of it. But their crispness, their execution, you know, Parsons was in a bad spot and then lanes out.

And then Parsons almost, you know, gets him back in the game by himself, which is a whole different conversation. But I just think there's a, there's everybody being on the same page with this where I still feel like when NFL teams would do a lot of this stuff, it felt too loose at times. It was like, Hey, we want to throw in some of these RPOs. We want to do some of these reads, but we don't really want to fucking do it. We just want to make sure we're doing it. And there's a Christmas to Philly's execution that I think is really special well there's a learning curve to it too

it's hard stuff to learn like you got to have a guy on your staff that's done this for 15 years and seen all the adjustments I would argue I studied football as hard as anybody out there and it's taken me four to become adequate at understanding it. You know what I mean? Adequate. Like I can talk about it. We can do it at the high school level, the high level. But I mean, I wouldn't pretend to be an expert on this. If I was in college with the NFL, I would hire somebody that's been around it for years and understand the nuance and the adjustments that go along with it. I think another interesting thing, I said this on the herd,

that is interesting about the Eagles. If you're going to take a skeptical look at this, if you're a skeptic, then look at this. Look at their explosive plays right now. They have a high number of explosive plays. The NFL book, as it gets written on the Eagles, in the regular season stays in about a three or five week book. Okay.

It's about three to five week cycle. You study on teams and you get into the late in the regular season stays in about a three or five week book. Okay. It's about three to five week cycle. You study on teams and you get into the late in the season, the playoffs, I would say post Thanksgiving, that book extends to eight, nine, 10 games, coaches,

GAs, and quality control guys will, and analytics guys will expand the book on the opponent. By the time you get to the playoffs and it's life or death, then that book is the entire every snap that's ever been run under this staff. And usually what you try to take away first is explosive plays against you. And if the Eagles, if they start dwindling and explosives, that would be the NFL book being written a little bit more on this offense and

taking away some of the big stuff. Go back to Kaepernick's Niners, even Lamar Jackson to a certain degree. This misdirection, call it college, call it whatever you want to do. Its greatest asset is the ability to create explosive plays within the run or really kind of high completion passing game that comes off of it. And when teams start figuring out like, wait a second, we don't have to take the bait. That's the term I use around here is like when, when teams don't take the bait, all of a sudden your explosives go down. And it's going to be interesting to see as this book gets more written on the Eagles offense, if that's the number that decreases, because if it is now, what you said about James, you have to beat you with drop back past it.

Because the only other way to get explosives is through the drop back past game or play action basket. Who are you more worried about? Green Bay, LA Rams or Tampa Bay? So I thought about this answer. You gave me a heads up and text me on this one. I'm not worried about any of them considering how crappy their divisions are.

The most I'm worried about are the Packers. One, because they're the Vikings, who I do think are pretty darn good in 5-1. They're the one good team in that division. But the bigger reason it's the Packers over the other two is they don't know who they are offensively. They have a massive identity crisis right now. It's almost as if they had this decision to make when Devontae left.

Like, okay, are we going to be this quick, piercing passing game and just have other guys do it? Or are we going to be more of a heavy, high-volume run team with Dylan and Jones and trust that we have one of the greatest quarterbacks that's ever walked on earth, make big, big chunk throws down the field? Maybe the volume goes down a little bit, but the impact of the throws go up. And when they played well this year, that's been their formula.

High volume runs, establish the line of scrimmage, get piercing chunk throws down the field. Had some drops, tons of drops. So a lot of this is identity crisis, plus receivers not playing very well. I think that's six yesterday. But yesterday, and some of these games haven't played well, it's been a poor

execution, but it's also been, oh, wait a second, we really liked who we were with Devontae. Let's go do more of that, even though we don't have Devontae. And these guys can't do it. And I just think they have an identity crisis. I don't know when they're by us. I haven't looked at the schedule, but it's almost as if they

need what Tom Brady did in Tampa last year. Or as the cameras last year, the year schedule, but it's almost as if they need what Tom Brady did in Tampa last year. Or as the cameras last year, the year before, where it was just distinct, drew a line in the sand at the bye week. This is who we're going to be. This is who we were. That was kind of fun. They really didn't work. I'm glad you guys had your chance to kind of say what we're going to be.

But now I'm going to tell you who we're going to be moving forward. And they went on some great run. I think that's going to need to happen in Green Bay. Aaron's going to have to go in there and say, okay, this is where Hall of Fame quarterback puts his foot in the ground and says, this is who we're going to be. This is who we can be, and we're not deviating from it. Yeah, you're right.

Two years ago when they won at Tampa was 75 by week, won four straight. Go ahead and win the Super Bowl. Green Bay's by-week, 14. Oh, that's a little late to do that. They might not be in the playoffs if he has that talk in week 14. This might be a today thing. I want to talk about another thing here, another concept. Because Russell Wilson, it felt like his biggest concern was that he just wasn't allowed to do everything he wanted to.

I heard, look, they wanted a bigger market, whatever. It hasn't worked. I hope he's hurt. There's no way he's this bad, this young. He's still too young to be this bad. But do you have anything? I don't know how long it took your career where no one was going to kiss your ass anymore.

But what Denver clearly was like, we're just going to do whatever you want, man. And then here's, I don't blame him. Like when you don't have a quarterback for a long time, especially Denver feeling like they'd blown so many great defensive rosters where like, we can't even get average quarterback play. It's like, fine, what's the bill. Here's the, here are the assets and we'll pay you whatever you want. And we'll throw it a million times in the red zone.

We're going to let Russ cook. He's going to have all these numbers and all that different stuff. If you have any stories, maybe as a backup of the balance between the quarterback getting his way and then perhaps getting too much of his way. And in this case with Denver, I still think it's a little early. It can be framed this way for Russell Wilson. But if he's not, look, he doesn't look healthy. I can't imagine he's going to miss this many throws the rest of his career.

Like, it just doesn't make any sense to me. But I do think there is some conversation around going, hey, we're going to do whatever you want. And then you're like, yeah, maybe we regret this a little bit. Joe, but I'll spin this question, I think, to answer what you're really looking for. I played for two Hall of Fame coaches in Tony Dungy and Mike Holmgren, and the quarterback never got his way. In fact, that's kind of a core philosophy. Really? Yeah, you don't give the quarterback his way

because not one person's more important than the rest of the team or the organization. And I agree with that philosophy. Now, Holmgren was very quarterback centric and he'll build the team around the quarterback, but the quarterback doesn't get his way out. Like if the quarterback asked for a cream of mushroom soup at lunch, you're going to get chicken noodle. Like you're not, there's never going to be anything that happens on the team where the team can say, oh, that's because the quarterback wanted it. Because now I think you break down the fabric of what football is at its greatest, which is everybody buying into something bigger than themselves. As soon as selfishness and one guy, one guy's agenda starts getting put up other in front of others. Well,

now you, you have distrust, you know, well, why is he more important than me? The economics already hard enough to deal with the players know how to deal with that. The economics of football is easy because parent players say that's the position, right? You're a pro bowler at that position. That's what you get paid. I play a different position. So that doesn't become, at least in my time, that was never really that big of a thing. But when a player starts getting special treatment and he is viewed by the organization as more important than the rest of us,

that's a problem because we're all sacrificing our bodies. And that's the thing people don't. Now I get it. I understand the argument. Well, they make a lot of money. They should sacrifice their bodies. I agree. I don't regret any of my energy injuries because I knew what I was signing up for. I was getting paid a lot to do it. However, we're still doing it. Like it still hurts, right? You're still dealing. You know that you're taking years off your life when you're playing in the NFL. You know you're not going to walk great. You know you're not going to go play Little League with your kids.

You know your days of pickup basketball are over. You know a lot of limitations you're going to have at my age because of what you did when you played. So when you're in the heat of it and you hurt and you know you're making sacrifices for the betterment of the team and Johnny over here gets whatever he wants because he's more important than you, now you got a team conflict. And I think if there's a mistake, and I do think it's a little early, but if indeed Russ is getting his way and he's running that show,

which I don't know to be true or not, you're going to have an issue with the team because that's the thing NFL players can't handle is they like him more than me. He's more important than me. I want to finish with college. Hendon Hooker. Go.

So much more fun to watch than NFL football. The pageantry, it's just more fun to watch. I'm not saying it's better. It's just more fun to watch. He's ridiculously good. I happen to know this staff really well. Alex Golish, the offense coordinator, and I have become really good friends

because Middle Tennessee and recruiting and all these different things. really well. Alex Golish, the Robbins coordinator, and I've become really good friends just because Middle Tennessee and recruiting and all these different things. I really admire him as a person, as a coach. Hype's done an incredible job. But they brag about Hooker for his professionalism. We have a professional as our leader. he works on every aspect of his game. He works on every aspect of his leadership. Like he's a guy you trust and he's only getting better. These were off season conversations and you're seeing it in the season. Now, like he was kind of known for some trap in his throwing.

Like it was kind of like this up and down. And now he's just so consistent. He's another guy doing a great job in the read game. And they have really a complex read game. They have a three-level read game. So they do a lot of choice stuff on the third level. Those receivers are making decisions 10 to 15 yards down the field. So he's making those reads.

He's making the mid-range level where they're reading linebackers in the RPO game. And he's making line of scrimmage reads because they are running some zone read, power read, other type of read stuff where you're reading on the line of scrimmage players. So they have three levels of reads you're doing. He's making them almost flawlessly. explosive qualities on his what you'd call chunk throw accuracy is really good like these are just like jump balls these are in stride inside release seam routes these are go balls that have three yards of boundary that he's working with he's dropping over the outside shoulder These are back shoulder high and away throws

that are perfectly placed. It's really, really impressive. When he misses a throw, you're like, oh, I haven't seen that in a couple weeks. Hey, I want to jump here on the deep ball stuff because his gauging on where the ball is going to go on the deep shots is really, really impressive. Now, I think Caleb has them in the RPMs.

I think Stroud has something where it just pops. Because I was thinking about it. I've watched almost everybody now at this point in the season. I'm asking you because I'm not sure if I'm right or not. But if I were going to say the three deep ball guys are the guys that impressed me the most, Hooker doesn't have the Caleb RPMs, but the trajectory that it takes on its way

and how dialed in it is, that's almost as impressive as the way Caleb can just rip it. Yeah, Caleb has the most horsepower. CJ and Hooker, I would say, are neck and neck in their anticipation of the deep ball is there somebody else i'm missing not in the deep ball we're just talking deep ball those are the three those are the three guys yeah bryce is more of a mid-range intermediate i mean he has a good deep ball but he's more of the he's gonna kill you at 25 yards and under

with his twitchiness but those three are the three best deep ball guys. And CJ and hooker do it very similarly. They really throw it early. Like they, they really anticipate those throws. I always talked about, it was a fun term when I was at ESPN, I would, I would come up with anticipation accuracy numbers. How many yards did they anticipate the throw? And it's super easy to figure out if you have NFL rewind, you can do it right when the ball's coming off the quarterback's finger where's the receiver and then when it's completed how many yards of anticipation accuracy was that right yeah i can take sally and she can run up she can have me run up 12 yards turn around throw it at my chest there's no anticipation accuracy right i'm a target that she's throwing to. But now you're running 4-2 and you're 22 yards down the field and that ball's completed at 46.

That's 24 yards of anticipation accuracy. That's a lot. You see a lot of anticipation accuracy with Stroud and with Hooker. Stroud's a little higher. He puts a little more air on it. Hooker throws a little flatter, which I'm not saying one's better or worse. But, yeah, it's incredibly impressive. And what I love about both these coordinators, and they would be saying,

Trent, you need to say this. You need to say this. A lot of it has to do with the receiver play, too. The receiver play is very disciplined. It's very well coached. These guys can finish. You have a lot of guys that can run fast. You have a lot of guys that can run fast and finish consistently. Both Ohio State and Tennessee has put a premium on guys that can finish down the field. When you are running that stack with Hyatt

and you get Alabama that many times, how does that happen? How does it happen to Alabama? They kind of force you into it. Sure. Because they force you to play two over two or three over two. And if you're playing three over two, it's other stuff you're getting. That's why the genius of Goldfish is, and again, I don't want to give away his secrets, and I don't really know them all.

I've just studied it. but he's never wrong. So the way they teach their passing game, they're never wrong. So when you get the two over two, you're getting aggressive throws. When you get the three over two, you're getting conservative throws or runs or RPO. So that is a very, very, very, very well thought out scheme that has a lot of nuance to it. So you watch the replay, like, oh my gosh, how could Bama line up their safety on the switch release again on the receiver? And Nick Simmons was like, well, do you really think that's what we wanted?

Like he's probably in his press conference saying like, hey, do you think we're all, you know what, idiots? And that's what we're actually trying to do. But no, they forced us into that because of other stuff that was going on because i've seen teams play the three-man rush drop eight against this and they'll rush the ball for 295 yards right yeah so you're right you're right that's the genius he's taking spread bullish if somebody put a gun to my head and said, a non Dilfer answer, a quick, decisive

answer on what makes him so good, I would say he's combining power principles with true spread offense post-snap. It all happens after the snap. If you're Alabama, you're thinking Will Anderson at some point is going to, if you're

trying to take this many deep shots. But this is the dumbest thing that I'll admit. I have certain personnel groups that their uniforms make me think all the time. Whenever it's a Tennessee offensive lineman in that orange, I just always think they're awesome. Like every time, it's the same thing. My worst example of it would be any edge guy for the Baltimore Ravens when they're in black I'm like oh that guy's making some plays and then I'll look him up and be like that's not even the guy that I thought it was there's certain uniforms that make me think certain personnel groups like for George's

secondary I always think those guys are awesome they usually are pretty good so it's it's not the the biggest reach um LSU defensive ends I'll always always be like, oh, that guy's nasty. Actually, no, he's been a huge disappointment. Yeah. I think you're 100% right. If I had time to prep for this, I probably am. We'll do it another time. Tennessee O-linemen,

because of that uniform, I'm like, man, these guys are real glass eaters. Yeah, they're all first-round picks, man. They have five first-round picks there. No, I know. You're right. There's something to it. I'm thinking Oakland Raiders back in the day. Oakland Raiders' defensive ends were all 6-9 in my mind.

Yeah, right. LSU has something to it. I remember when I was with a coach in an opposing team, we went out and got some food the night before. He was like, have you looked at there too deep on the D line? He's like, there'll be a guy that doesn't even play. And then he comes in and has seven snaps. He's like 6'6 from Lafourche.

And you're just like, who the fuck is this guy? And again, whatever. All right. So, yeah, that'll be another exercise. I want to talk Bryce Young later on. We'll do a little bit more colleges. We have more this season. So this is a lot of fun, Trent.

Appreciate it. And by the way, not to get ahead of ourselves, 8-0 for Lipscomb. So keep grinding. We got a rival this week, man. And they're good. And we got to go to their place.

I did not sleep this weekend. My wife was out of town. So I game planned all night, both nights. We're not going to ask. We'll break it down next week. Good luck. See you, brother.

All right. Bye. It's time for my college football top 12. Just to let everybody know, I did this late on Saturday night into Sunday morning before the polls even came out. So I think that's kind of important

because I want to do it before I see what everybody else has done. So I still have Ohio State number one. They're number two in the AP and the coaches poll. If you want to tell me they haven't played anyone because Notre Dame isn't that good, I would agree with you. There's not a lot there on the resume.

Yes, I'm giving them a benefit of the doubt. It's Notre Dame. It's Arkansas State. It's Toledo. It's Wisconsin. It's Rutgers. it's Michigan State. If it was a different team in the Big Ten that had their point differential, which is number one in the country, if they were beating all of their teams by 30 points and that was their resume and they hadn't been good in recent

years, I probably wouldn't have them number one overall. I also would like to, as I point out, sometimes it's, have you done something awesome? Who do I think would win head-to-head? What is the cost of a loss? What is the cost of a second loss? And another one of my rules that all contradict each other, which is impossible to do this again without contradicting yourself at some point. I just like them. I like them better. I like them better than everybody else. And that is subject to change. I like their offensive unit better than any other team in

college football. And I still think the defense is going to be really good. They have, and this is going to get ugly here, they've got Iowa at Penn State, which doesn't feel the same. We'll get to Michigan at Northwestern, Indiana, Maryland, and then they finish up with Michigan at home on November 26th. So, that's it. What if I think they're really good? I do.

They're killing teams, like I said, number one in point differential. And the winner of Tennessee-Georgia will probably jump them for me okay I have Tennessee number two let's spend some time talking about the Vols coming in Saban was 15 and 0 against Tennessee as the Bama head coach he beat him in 07 his first year when Bama was a 6-6 independence bowl team when they beat Colorado all right so you're like wait he got him that year too when that was the only year anybody got Bama? We could ask maybe Bama isn't Bama. We'll get to them

later in the rankings. But Hendenhooker is incredible. He should be your frontrunner right now for Heisman. In the AP, it looks like I have Tennessee is third. They have 15 first-place votes. The coaches put Michigan ahead of them.

Tennessee's fourth there. To beat Bama at home in the way they did with all of those ghosts, I'm going to add it all in. I don't know how Bama gave up the most points in the game since 1907. I guess Jalen Hyatt lining up in that stack formation and having five touchdowns has something to do with that. It looked like the corners were lost all day for Bama. Again, Willie Anderson, Will Anderson, excuse me.

That's one of the few games where you're like, wait, I feel like I'm not hearing from him that much. I'd have to break down the all 22 to really see, which I'm not going to do. It was 28-10, but you're always like, man, Bama will get back into this. Then it looks like the Tennessee's giving the game away on the fumble touchdown. They win it with the kick. The ghost of Bama, what this game has meant. Remember, that's Bama's assigned east-west matchup every single year, right?

Third Saturday in October. I'm old enough to know that Tennessee always mattered. Tennessee always mattered. Now, certainly on one night, they mattered again. When you look at the rest of tennessee's resume you'll win against a pit team that was ranked at the time beating lsu's doors in at their place 40 to 13 that is actually a good win stop you've heard this before but lsu's actually pretty talented team i don't know who was playing quarterback for him in florida yesterday but

that guy looks pretty good so the Ghost of Bama we've covered. This team has been out of the national spotlight for a really long time. There's been fluky, we hope. There was a game day appearance where I went there and they lost. They hadn't finished in the top 10 since 2001. Prior to that, they'd finished in the top 10 eight times in 16 seasons. This team always mattered. And like Nebraska ever having a win like this and feeling like they matter again,

that's kind of what this is for the South. I loved this for Knoxville. Okay? And the thing I struggled with the most, this is, by the way, their best in-season ranking since 2001, was if they had lost this game on the Riker kick, I'm like, I might put them ahead of some other undefeated teams.

That's how impressed I've been with them all season and hooker and certainly on this night, and then we'll see what happens against Georgia. They have to go there on November 5th. Number three, Georgia. They beat Vandy 55-0. Moving on. Why isn't Michigan ahead of them? I'd pick Georgia against Michigan. We were waiting for a Michigan game against a ranked team.

They beat Penn State 41-17. It felt like 50-10. They're actually trailing going into the second half in this one. First time trailing in the second half of the season for Michigan. If you watched the game, it was entirely fluky. It was the weird turnover that gave them the touchdown. Penn State was number five defensively against the run in college football. They gave up 418 yards on 55 carries. They got gashed by Donovan Edwards and Blake Corum, which

is a terrific running back duo and J.J. McCarthy's a sick athlete. He's completing all of his passes. Maybe some deep ball stuff there, but I still like the receivers. This is a really good football team. I just have Georgia ahead because I think Georgia's stomping Oregon. Week one is more impressive than beating Penn State

in this game. I can understand an argument with maybe moving Michigan up a little bit higher. I'm just not going to. Penn State now is 0-10 versus top 10 schools since 2016. Number five, Clemson. They're good. I love the front. Don't love the secondary.

Let's check in on DJ Uyunglele. 55% of his completions last year, six yards per attempt. He finished the season nine touchdowns and 10 picks. Since the wake game and his rushing element, this guy's been a much better quarterback. The guy we thought we were going to see when we all fell in love with him in that Notre Dame game. Completing 64% of his passes, 8 yards per attempt, 17-2 touchdown-interception ratio. This is a good football team.

Number six, Bama. Without Bryce Young, they lose this game by 30 points. But with Bryce Young and Jameer Gibbs, and I don't know why Gibbs didn't get a couple more carries there later on to kind of run clock and maybe get a little bit closer. That kick attempt possession kind of went sideways quick there. I think it's the best running back quarterback combo in the country. I would listen to maybe two or three other teams argument wise, but I'm just not going to.

So if you want to tell me it's not the same Obama, that's fine. I like Bryce Young even more now after this game. That guy's insane. I can't believe how good that guy is in the pocket. He's almost like Mahomes if Mahomes were better. I'm kidding. Like we talked about, the defense mess all day.

15 penalties against Texas, 17 against Tennessee. You can say they screwed up the punt, but that went even on the other one. I don't know about the pass interference. A smaller corner on a bigger receiver. Draped all over them. You're not going to,

the call's not going to go your way. They're still going to win the West. Have fun next week, Mississippi State. So I have Bama at six. I struggle with TCU and UCLA. I switched it. I'm going to go TCU at seven with three straight conference wins

against ranked teams. They look dead this week against Oklahoma State. Unbelievable comeback against Oklahoma State team. That's really good. UCLA will put them at eighth or ninth in the AP. Two ranked wins. Washington, meh, but Utah is a nice win. Let's stay in the Pac-12. Oregon at nine. I don't love where they're at because of who they've beaten. Arizona, Stanford, Washington State, BYU we thought was a nice win when they were 12th.

They're now 4-3. They lost to Notre Dame. They got stomped by Arkansas. BYU's 80th on defense. Is the Georgia loss worse than USC at Utah? Depends on what you think about Utah and Georgia. Yes, it is worse because it wasn't even fucking close. You could argue, well, it was week one.

Things are different. Bo Nix has settled down a little bit. I don't know. There's an Oregon resume thing there where I'm not 100% sure. We're going to find out very shortly here with the UCLA matchup. USC at 10. Caleb Williams on his own 16 with 16 seconds left. I still thought USC had a chance to do something.

Their defense is 64th in opponents' yards per game. They've lost seven straight now against ranked teams, their longest streak in program history. Utah's got the two losses. I have them at 11th going for two to beat USC. They look like they were toast a little bit earlier. They looked overmatched. Rising is incredible. No Keith.

You remember Kincaid making all those plays, left the game, came back in. That was such a gutty classic Kyle Whittingham, Utah win, so I have them 11th. Most people do not have them there. I'll check the rankings again, and Utah is 15th in both polls. Number 12, what's he going to do? Where's Ole Miss? They're 7th.

I do not have them ranked in my top 12. I finished with Oklahoma State. Would you pick Ole Miss to beat Oklahoma State if you're outside of the state of Mississippi? Or let's just say on the other side of Starkville. Ole Miss strength of schedule 109. They gave up 34 points to fucking Auburn

who was 96th in yards for play coming in. Auburn actually went back to TJ Finley for a series and there was like, nah, this is bad. You see TJ Finley tweeted out a stat page. He retweeted something talking about how Auburn was the most pressured

quarterback grouping in the SEC since whenever. And you're just like, dude, yeah, that's it. That's it. It's just that. It's everybody else. I would hate that shit if I were head coach. I'd be so pissed about it. And again, as soon as he came in, he fucked it up. And they took him right back out again.

I'm applying the who would I pick rule here. Ole Miss is actually favored as of last night against LSU going into Baton Rouge this week. I was a little surprised by that. I just am not super impressed with them. They've got that Kentucky win by three points

at home there. People are asking for cues. Give me a fucking break. Their strength of schedule is 114. They beat NC State without Leary. So not hearing it. That one's weird. Somebody I really respect had them 12th.

I respect them less now. So there you go. Oklahoma State 12th. Before we get to life advice, love doing drafts drafts ray make sure we keep this so so rudy and i are gonna do a draft of eight teams each see how many playoff teams we can get right because i do think and you know simmons when we're doing the over under pod we all kind of kept laughing when he kept pointing out the play-in odds. But I get why he was doing it, because there's actually, for a few teams, some pretty good value if you're like, well, wait,

if you think this team is five or six, why not lay down something on a play-in future, knowing the payout's pretty good on it? Go ahead, you can check those out at FanDuel, number one sportsbook in America. So, Kyle, who should go first? Me or Steve? Steve, no question.

Okay. You said that quickly. Yeah, there's still some... No, I'm quick on it today. It's Monday. Some disdain. I don't know. Sober October. I'm on it. Wait, sober October? Yeah, well, we can talk at LifeAdvice. This isn't time or place, right? Wait a second.

I don't know. I feel like the NBA takes a backseat to sober October. All right, yeah, we'll get to it at Life Advice, I guess. All right, a little nugget, a little tease. You do sound pretty fresh. I'm not going to lie to you. Although, I used to love when guys changed October to Rocktober in college. They just put a big R in front of it.

Because September was just a warm-up to how hard you were going to have to go in October. For Rolling Rock? What was the significance? No, not Rolling Rock. What are you watching? At close range? Bad joke. What? Just like rock? A couple Latrobes? Yeah, whatever you did in September, you were going to go even

harder. One guy tried to go out all 31 nights. I think he did it. And then, of course, you're making up for it in November. But then you'd have a little break. Next thing you know, you're asking for an extension, hoping you took something past Phil. Okay, moving on. So Steve goes first, huh?

I always thought it should be who's the fastest. Who's the fastest out of the group? Foot speed. All three of us right now. We talking like lateral quickness or 40 time? 40 time. I'm actually not that fast, like straight line. I'm quick.

So I don't know. You're 6'2". You both are taller than me. Bigger strides. I don't know. Kyle, are you fast? I was fast for alignment in high school. I remember that, but the rest of that, I don't know.

I think I made up my 40 time over the years. I don't even remember what it was anymore, so I don't want to share it. I'd just be propagating a lie. I thought it was pretty close to five flat, but who knows. I told you about this. I timed myself, and i timed myself and i timed myself wrong i thought i was running high four fives and then i said it to somebody in front of

a ball it's like in a bar and i said it in front of the bc uh strength conditioning guy who's like this all-time legend like all-time fucking legend and he's hilarious and he was older than me and he just basically was like dude he's like at your size if you're running the fucking four fives he's like you'd be in the league he wouldn't even be talking to us and i was like no i timed it and he's like how did you time it and then i was like oh my god i don't i mean again i'm admitting how fucking stupid i sound right now i never ever came close to running something like that but i convinced myself that i did it was like your dad timing you down a hill with wind so you'd be like Bobby Wagner

that was the case yeah yeah yeah he was the disdain got it can you I wish I could look him up because the guy was fucking awesome wait how old were you this is when you were traveling for was how yeah I don't even know what period of life this was no no no I wasn't even 30 yet I wasn't even okay I was convinced I was convinced that I was all of a sudden faster. He just absolutely cut me at the knees in front of the people. He's like, what the fuck are you talking about? He's like, you definitely don't do that. Again, everybody lies about their 40 times, so I guess you could just

say I was fitting in. I wish I could remember the guy's name because he was fucking hilarious and awesome at the same time. He was so cool, he was intimidating. I don't think the average person actually understands how fast 4.5 is. No. Well, this guy does. Because we're so used to, like, oh, this guy ran a 4.2 at the combine.

Like, 4.5 seems like it's some loser. You know, just another guy. There's more guys rocking around saying that they ran a 4.5 than, like, we have people with the second car. I don't even know what the fuck that means, but... Alright, back to the draft. Steve goes first.

I'm going to take the Bucks. I feel like it's an obvious one, so there you go. I feel like the top of this is going to be pretty fast. Yeah, there's no problem. I'm just writing this down so I can send it to Ray after. Alright, I'll go Warriors. On brand. Is it a bad pick?

No. I'll go Celtics. All right. Ooh, good one. Good one. I'll go Sixers. Good call. Let's look at the West here. Give me

the Nuggets. Okay, I'll take Memphis, also known as Mem-piss. Is that actually a thing? Second time I use that joke in a week. Okay. Second time I don't get it. Give me the Clippers. Let's go. Give me the Clippers. Let's go. People love the Clippers

this year. Give me the Clippers. You know what I'm going to do just to fuck all you people? Taking Phoenix with an arrow. Yeah. You were absolutely going to get them because they were probably too low on my board. I'll take the Heat.

Have them. There'll be a two seed at the end of the year. I just feel like, yeah. I don't like the Heat, but this seems like good value. Okay, this is where the real strategy kicks in. Because there's a team that we should have taken by now, but I already know what's happening because the floor is low. The floor is low. Do I take a lower ceiling team?

First off, establishing the ground rules too. We just get one point for every team that you pick that gets into the playoffs. There's no like seating doesn't matter. It's just you get a point for a team that makes the playoffs. Yeah. We're just trying to see how many of these we're going to get right. Because most years I'd feel like I was going to get at least like six of eight right in both conference. And this year, I think it's a little more challenging.

Okay. Charlotte was a 10 seed with 43 wins last year. Why did Borrego get fired again? Team Borrego. Very pro Borrego podcast. Yeah. Well, I look. Hey, shout out to the Magic.

I like him on the Magic. Just asking the question. Yeah. Well, I look, I'm just asking the question. Okay. I see. I kind of, I'm going to do a little games and ship here. All right. Give me Brooklyn.

Okay. I'm, I'm cool with that. I'll take the Raptors. Perfect. I'll take Cleveland. All right. So now, now we're in that weird West territory

where most of these teams could be either 6-7, play-in team, whatever. I'm going to go Mavs. I just think Luka's... I love Luka. I'm going to root for him. I want to root for my bet here. He's making the playoffs. Give me a break.

I'll take New root for him. I want to root for my bet here. He's making the playoffs. Give me a break. I'll take New Orleans. Okay. Give me... Magic's still available. Magic's still available. Yep. Give me the T-Wolves. Damn. That was going to be my last one.

Safe bet. They're going to win a lot of games. They're going to win a lot of games they're going to win a lot of games yeah that's my so okay that mean I have to take Atlanta Chicago still available Utah probably not going to take them Lakers I take Lakers or Atlanta I'll take the Lakers Utah, probably not going to take them.

Lakers? I take Lakers or Atlanta? I'll take the Lakers. Wow. So we picked... I feel like that was a bad move by you. Was it? We picked nine West teams and seven East teams.

Okay. Let's party. So just to recap, I have Bucs, Celtics, Nuggets, Clippers, Heat, Raptors, Mavs, T-Wolves. okay let's party with that so just to recap i have bucks celtics nuggets clippers heat raptors mavs t-wolves you have warriors sixers grizzlies sons nets calves pelicans lakers no one picked the hawks bulls or nicks uh and the kings are also off i know people kind of like the king so we'll see kind of like the kings but yeah. No magic. No magic. You're too soon. We do this next year, they're a prime candidate. Right. I'm just saying, Wash

King, I'm keeping receipts. I can't believe that. Hey, Westbrook off the bench? You never know. Maybe he'll finally accept his role. I kind of know how that's going to go. I've got like four Westbrook opens. I'm not sure anybody wants to hear them anymore. You want details? Fine.

I drive a Ferrari. 355 Cabriolet. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you could possibly imagine. And best of all, kids, I am liquid. So, now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required.

Let's get to life advice. Life advice, the email for submitting your questions. Life advice, rr at gmail dot com. There's been some thought of do we have a separate life advice like two days a week and then third day a week we do Judge Kyle.

Where it's just, you know, it's kind of off the am I the asshole, you know, thing that's been super popular. So it's not original or anything. It's like we just have separate. We have two life advice days and then one day is just straight up judgment because some of the life advice is veer into judgment thing. And if we keep them separate, just a thought, just thinking out loud, creatively keeping the audience involved. Some gavel sound effects, you know, law and order. Yeah, I like that. Well, Kyle, we're just going to follow up on what was happening before you offered it. So you tell

us what's going on. You just, what are you doing? Drying up for 30 plus? Sober October, you know, I'd forgot that I was going to do it. I'd said it a while ago. The fiance was a huge fan of that. And I was like, yeah, I could do this. Totally forgot about it. And then on the final day of September, a guy that I usually drink with was like, oh, it's my last day for a while. I'm doing Sober October. I was like, I guess I'll drink for both of us. And then later that day, I threw up.

And I was like, fuck, I haven't done this in so long. I was like, I came back and I was like, I'm doing Sober October. I remember now. So I did Sober October. It's been a super long month. Had a small break yesterday. Um, but it's half time halfway through the, just a small break from sober October yesterday. Um, so you're trying to, it's not sober. It's a small break. It's a small break and it's halftime and I haven't been to frolic room at all. So I think really that's what most mostly

matters here. Um, but yeah, it's, But yeah, I've been feeling great. Sleep well at night. I'm not going to sleep as early anymore. So me and the fiance are hanging out more at night now. It's great. She's liking that. It's been good. Wow.

Small break yesterday. But I think if I do it next year, I will incorporate a halftime, drinks at halftime, which would be like the 15th or the 16th of the month. But other than that, it's been really good. I had a buddy who used to do February every year. He was like, oh, it's the shortest month.

It is the shortest month. But the real reason I think he liked doing it is because he told everybody. He's like, oh, no drinking. It's like being a vegan. Yeah. You're like, okay, cool, dude. Don't drink. He's like, oh, I'm not going to be seeing you guys but you still fucking come hang out with us like what are you talking about do you go to so you won't go to the frolic room and just have some club sodas um no i'm not interested i mean that'll you only get one halftime you know per game so i just think it'll

be it'd be too many be too many halftimes if i did that um i got my on saturday i got my first like where the fuck are you pal what's going on um I was, I had nothing to do and I just went out and I got myself a pedicure just to do something for me, you know? Whoa. Added a 20 minute massage on what you don't, you never got a pedicure. No, I haven't. I'm not judging. I'm just surprised.

I just needed to do something. I was like, I got to get out of the house. And if I don't have somewhere to go, I'm just going to walk like a zombie to the frolic room. So I just went and I got a, just did a walk-in pedicure, you know, nothing on the nails, just, just clean up the dogs a little bit and then throw a little thing. Yeah. And then throw, I got to get the cow.

I've been doing a lot of walking, as you know. So I did the callus remover. That's impressive how much comes off when they do that cheese grater thing. But yeah, there was another girl like directly looking at me. I could just tell her seeing, like staring at the pile of, of, of dead feet on the floor you know as they were they were scraping so but i did did something for me and i almost broke down on saturday and then i went broke down on sunday but it's halftime and that's how we're gonna do it moving forward so you drank both days this weekend but it's so no no didn't drink saturday i wouldn't got pedicure instead of drinking you

know what i mean i'm just finding ways to fill that. But Sunday, I did drink. Okay. All right. Whatever. No judgment. Hey, man. If it's 30 of 31 days, it's still pretty good. That's like a month. Most people would say that's a month. Yeah. Most people would. Some months are 30 days, correct. 30 out of 31. Okay.

Let's get to the advice here. I like this one. It's simple, but I think it's complex. And then we have two other ones that I just think I'm going to throw on. There's one that's a follow-up, and then there's another one that's a request. All right. Here we go. Barbro.

37. 37. 37. That's a different email. Yeah. Hey, guys, check it in. I'm 37. Nope. He's 37. He guys, check it in. I'm 37. Nope. He's 37.

He's 6'5". He's 260. He's way past our... What was it? 6'5", 240? I think we were 6'4". 6'4 is tall enough. 6'4", 240 is what we said. This guy's past it.

Pushed three wheels in January. He's lost about 25 pounds since then i've seen punters on madden combines that can rep 235 more than i can it's 225 of the combine just quick correction the other day i finished a work event and went to the sports bar a block away from my loft to watch thursday night football this guy's got a loft two of my friends by were, by the way, loft can be amazing. It can also be not that sweet. Somebody who was in a loft, a loft early in his 20s, that was not, but sometimes lofts are sick.

So two of my friends were seated at the bar and I stood in between them and got my drink and started watching the game. About 10 minutes later, I heard this guy talking shit about this douchebag in a suit standing in his way. I work as a lobbyist and I get I was overdressed

for the bar. By the way, a suit in a bar every now and then? I got no problem with it. I think it shows your dedication to the bar. If you're in a suit, you can't waste a day. You should probably actually go into a bar just to let people see you. Even if you don't do anything. Yeah, right. I used to do it after TV sometimes, only so somebody would be like, where are you in a suit? Did you loosen the tie a little bit or did you go hopefully not dudes

now i remember like look i just i will share with you how fucking lame i can be at times or have been in the past but like i there was a bartender i liked and i went up suit and was like oh can i get a wet napkin and she was like okay i was like i have makeup on she's like oh what do you have makeup on boom ice breaker wow there you go i kind of hate it but it's all right oh my god i didn't even want to tell you guys but i just i feel like i always have to you know oh no where you keep myself man no that's good yeah so uh anyway oh yeah i was just uh i was on tv i think it was on earlier i think it's come i think the replay is coming up at 10 30 yeah you guys have dvr you guys guys get comcast lou tilly sports connection uh it was not post lou tilly sports connection that's a throwback uh with steven a steven i that was the original first take just him and i going at each other oh three ought three okay fucking email ryan focus all right so he gets

his overdressed i didn't want to change the game had already started i turned around and genuinely tried to apologize i get it i'm big and it can be inconvenient for people behind me side note i got way into john mulaney during covet and probably picked up some of his speaking cadences and definitely his hand flip during my apology this guy accused me of being condescending. I was legitimately trying to be earnest, but that set me off and I definitely became much more condescending afterward. Eventually, I let him tell me where to stand. And then once I cooled down, I decided to buy him a drink and offer an olive branch. I could totally see this guy being like, okay, where should I stand? Should I stand over here? I mean, the thing is,

Mulaney, you got a lot of size on him. I have one friend who ironically is the other way around. We tell him he's like 5'9", but a good 5'9". If he were 6'1", we're like, you would have gotten your ass kicked way more often. But because you were 5'9", guys wouldn't, they'd just be like, whatever, I'm not going to beat this dude up. You're on the other side of this. So if you're admitting that you can be, or you were sort of like Mulaney condescending, Mulaney to me is like a superiority thing. That's how it would come off. Again, I'm not super locked into Mulaney, but I know every comedian loves him. And when I do watch the videos, I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah, I totally get this. Anyway. So you're telling him, hey, where should I stand? Where should I stand?

So he decides, the emailer, to buy him a drink and offer an olive branch. He basically told me to fuck off, and I gave the drink to his friend. But see, this guy already thinks you're being super condescending, and you buy one drink for him and then bring it over, and it's not totally sincere and whatever. This other guy, by the way, he's at a bar watching a game. I get you blocking the TV and that sort of sucks, but the fact that he's stepping to you at 6'5", 260 and like what? Having three transactions with you where he's telling you off? Stones on this guy. All this is fine,

but now I see him almost every Sunday and he stares at me at the bar. How big is this guy? I have a loud personality. Russillo would probably hate me if he saw me somewhere because I want to talk to everyone if they are willing. And if my team isn't playing, I like cheering for whatever the team, the people sitting next to me are cheering for. I can tell

it's just pissing this guy off the whole time. I think this guy probably sucks, but I'd rather settle things because I know, especially after a few drinks, I might say something if he keeps having a problem. I would never want to fight because I'm an adult, but if it came to it, I'm not worried about him. All right, so now we know the profile of this guy. Right.

Right. How do I fix this? Maybe this guy just sucks. I mean, I like the email. Honestly, I like the emailer a lot. He thinks you wouldn't. So that's good. I don't understand why you never hung out with him.

Shocker. He cares. You know, this is somebody. Some people care. Shocker. He cares. This is somebody. Some people care. Some people don't care. We'll put this guy in the category of the fact that he cares about how he's perceived. I mean, you're right, Rudy. Maybe you just go fuck that other guy.

Why do you care? That's probably the simplest way. You're really going to worry about this other random guy that you are. You're not going to be friends with them. You're clearly not going to connect. It's probably irreparable at this point. It's very irreparable with dudes. Unless you get totally drunk together and you're just like you know you're all right dude yeah man

like you know what i was wrong about you let's get a place together um i think uh i i i feel like this other guy's kind of a stiff man i think he's kind of a stiff unless i'm reading this email completely wrong which some people will suggest that this guy is actually the asshole and the other dude was like look you're in the way now you're being because of condescending you bought me one drink from the table to kind of like show me up a little bit and yeah now every week i don't know why is the other guy going to stare at him like you're going to do anything you're not going to do anything she's just going to stare at this guy the whole fucking time so uh i don't know i side with the emailer because the other guy like who

cares none of this everybody should get all over like listening to this should make you want to get over other things that are going on in your life because none of this is important yeah i mean spend 10 minutes there's so much of an easier way to to do that like i was i was at a place yesterday a lot of tvs pats were only on one small the smallest tv with the worst brightness whatever what can you do yeah la what you expect um so so there was you know it's there's tables and there's a whole bar and there's a side of area where you're you're not really supposed to be in it's a high traffic area for the servers they're they're they're trying to do a lot of stuff it's crazy hectic so sometimes people just go up to the bar they don't want to wait for their server and then there's another guy who's like

sees his friend and he's like i'm like i'm watching him as he's like inching in towards my view. The waiters are all like, I was getting upset in my head. I'm like, look, the waiters are like, you know, dancing around him with like, you know, trays full of beer and food and stuff. And this guy's, he's like slowly creeping in as he's like shuffling around into my view. And I got really upset. And I was just like, I just tapped. I was like, hey, man, you might take it like one step to the left. And immediately he just sat down at an empty seat. And I was like, great. That's what you should have done.

You shouldn't be standing in front of a bar full of TVs when there's no space. So there's a total easy way, even if you're fucking pissed to just be like, hey, man, you might just step in two steps to the left. Instead of being like, oh, let's jerk off in the suit. What I would ask is, is this guy like intricate, like integral to the left instead of be able to do this jerk off in the suit what i would ask is is this guy like intricate like integral to the bar like is he like is he always there god forbid like that's the one thing i like is he a p1 a frolic room yeah that's what i'm saying like that's what i always liked about frolic room is i was always sort of like god forbid anything happens same way with dark room like the other guys leaving unless i'm fighting like i mean i

don't even want to talk about fighting i just mean mean, even if it's like a screaming match, if it goes down, if anything happens, if someone has to leave, it's not me. Is that the case with this guy? Or is he just an asshole that decides that, you know, this bar lets me be here and I'm here all the time being ornery to random people? Like I'd figure out what kind of guy that is to the bar. If he's going to be there and he's like, you know, going to have his picture on the wall one day, maybe, uh, maybe you should patch things up in some way. But like, that doesn't mean you have to be there and he's like, you know, going to have his picture on the wall one day, maybe you should patch things up

in some way. But that doesn't mean you have to be like hat in hand. You can be like, hey, man, what the fuck is going on? Like, what's the problem? I don't understand. You haven't seen me trying to patch this up. Otherwise I wouldn't care. But if you find out he's like a tier one bar guy that's been there for 10 years and is going to be there until he's dead, maybe you

should try to patch it up if you want to keep making that your place but you don't have but by no means do you have to be like i'm so sorry you could just be like hey man i just want to know what the hell's going on it also sounds like he he might have typecasted you like he saw you he might not be a suit guy maybe he works you know maybe he's like an outdoors guy works construction whatever and he sees this guy in a suit who's in his way and then it's like kind of a douchebag condescending to him and he's just like that's that's you just like trifecta of like this guy's a douchebag. And even though you aren't a douchebag, there's really not much you're going to be able to do to change his mind.

Well, I mean, I guess if you're always there and he's always staring at you, could you just like keep feeding him drinks every single time you're there? No, just be like, hey, this is from the guy over there in the corner. And I've printed some apps, some poppers. Oh, yeah. I don't know. Like maybe like if you really want to do this, force him to like confront you. And then you can be like, hey man, I didn't mean any ill will by this. Force friendship.

I see you eyeing me. I'm a friendly guy. Maybe we got off on the wrong foot. Again, I personally wouldn't give a shit. I know it's easy to say because this guy clearly is bothered by it, but I think if you really want to do it, you got to find an excuse to actually get up in his business and talk to him. Yeah, I think what happened

here is this guy's big. He's in a suit. He's a lobbyist. So he probably has the absolute alpha of alpha personalities. He's gregarious. Yeah, right. Well, I wasn't going there. No, I mean, like, I mean, the three things he's suit.

He's not self-aware at the bar in the way of a TV. And he was condescending John Mulaney to this guy. Like, it's kind of like it's not a good start. Yeah, but I'm just telling you, the gregarious guy who's kind of the center, and it sounds like this guy's kind of like a center of attention. To be a lobbyist, man,

you're going to be wired a certain way, right? And so that can be really beneficial to making friends and all that kind of stuff. But if you have no attachment to him and you're just sizing him up and you're the other guy, I mean, it sounds like those are guys from some part of Austin,

whether it's Southie, West Roxbury, Roxbury, or Dorchester. And he is sitting there going, this guy sucks. Who does he think he is? I don't know. You tried. You probably fucked it up a little bit. You probably were kind of a dick.

When you asked, where should I stand? I'm sure it wasn't sincere. Totally. So again, why do you care? You're right, Rudy'm sure it wasn't sincere. Totally. So again, why do you care? You're right, Rudy. Why do you want to be friends with this other guy? You're just going to look at each other and no one's ever going to do anything. You don't want to and you're pretty big.

So you told us you're not worried about him. Unless he's turning wretches or he's a mason. I got one thing I would say. Maybe it's an easy way to try it maybe you could go in if this is your bar you know what i've done when i wanted to like let somebody know that we can like talk or if i want to see what the deal is you know there's probably a couple people that you go say hello to either when they come in or when you come in you could just add them to your list and just see what happens the first time you're like hey what's up man like make sure he's

not the first person you say hello to but but maybe you could add it to him, you know, add it to your path when you walk in there and you're like, oh, fucking Jim's here. There's Sharon and this guy. Sharon, she's in town. Yeah, I just mean, maybe you could add him to your list of people

just to see what it is. If you're like, maybe this guy's got a weird eye thing and it looks like he's staring at me. He's not. Are you positive? Maybe you just want to see what he's like when you're straight up to him because I'm sure you haven't done that in a long time so i would just i maybe

add him to your route of hellos either when he comes in or when you come in and just see what happens i like that and then you can be like hey man what are you drinking like let's make this right go to the bar why do you want to keep buying this guy a drink man whatever it's i don't know because like this guy's a lobbyist he's been buying drinks for years yeah it's a company expense yeah all right i think we gotta we think we did enough time on that one. This is a life advice where somebody is actually going to help us help everybody. For those, this is a follow up to the Asian doctor who can't get dates. One of my Asian friends.

Can you say that? Reach out to me after. And she said, actually, it's very true that Asian men are the most rejected demographic on dating apps. I think some of it has to do with the population numbers. I think that's a fair thing to say. But yeah. Alright, so this guy's got a plan.

This is actually, I would normally never read this but it was so good, Kyle. Great eyes out of you. Always seeing where the safety help is he uh i read it was like maybe we just share this with the crew a lot of guys are always asking about how to meet people so here we go six four 230 pounds used to be over 300 pounds most of my life thanks for the seated shoulder press recommendation we're saving we're saving scapulas all over the place. Anyway, the apps are 100%

the way to go, Asian or not, and the return on investment of swiping from the comfort of your home is unmatched. I have procured countless matches and dates with girls out of my league via apps even while being well over 300 pounds. Christ, dude.

Bro. Are you ever sitting at a table alone after she comes back from the bathroom right okay all right all right we're gonna keep going what is this guy selling us right well i can't tell you how to maintain a positive relationship i can help you procure some dates via the apps. This almost feels a little copy and pasted, but again, it was really good. So here we go. Guys are like, get to it. This will 10 times your matches. 10 times.

Oh my God. Sounds like a spam email. Most guys have shitty profiles. There are more guys than girls in these apps. Not having a good profile makes you non-existent. A good profile means photos and a bio. Women will study your profile like the Torah.

Have photos that tell a story about who you are, not gym selfies and pics of you in front of a car. Wait, what? The more candid the photos, the better. Good photos are ones on vacation with groups of friends cuddling your dog. Guy's starting to get a little warmed up here, aren't we? Now we're like, wait, this guy's fucking on to something or out to dinner.

Need to paint a picture of what life would you would be like. And remember to smile for the Asian doctor. I definitely have an action shot of him in scrubs or him posing with a patient. an action shot of him in scrubs or him posing with a patient. Cheesy, but works. That was in italics to emphasize that. If you're 5'7", say

I'm the same height as Tom Cruise or I'm taller than Kevin Hart. You want to own being a short king. Jesus, this guy might have the secret sauce. The same height as Tom Cruise sounds way fucking better than 5'7".

For our doctor, I'd add something more cheesy about how he's achieved a level of success and is ready to share his life with someone, or talk about the fragility of life you see working in the ER, want to live out that moment or live in the moment with someone, not someone you wouldn't

want to live out that moment with someone dying. Live in the moment with someone. A little cheesy, but I think he's right. Women are trying to figure out what is he looking for. The key is once you match, keep it entertaining and do your best to get them to meet up with you for a drink, not dinner. You don't want to be at dinner with a disaster. Drink, short time frame. Got to strike while the iron is hot. You know what I like about the drink too is that you can get out. You can be way up in the game and be like, all right, this has been my best shit, my best material. In, out.

You got a little taste of this. Now I'm out of here. We're not going out. Who knows how long drinks are? Who knows how long they are? They could be 30 minutes. They could be two hours. It could be a three-day bender.

You'd end up with a booski at the VFW on a Tuesday. Happened. Not to me. Also, don't open any hey or what's up. That's what the other matches are doing. Don't open with hey or what's up. How the fuck are you supposed to open?

Use an opener like, quote, I already cleared you out a drawer at my place. I don't know. That's aggressive. I don't like that. You're losing me, pal. Or my go-to, quote, I hope you're not just after me until this point. You're losing me, pal. Or my go-to quote, I hope you're not just after me for my dog. Not terrible.

I don't hate that. I'm pro-dog. So, you know, yeah. People love dogs. You know what kind of numbers dog tweets get? You got a dog fucking in a Popsicle, that's 20,000 retweets. I might do a couple this week.

Have it be dog week on the show? Just, we don't deserve dogs. That should be in your bio. 13 out of 10. There you go. Also, you want to avoid these red flags in the apps. Girls with only face pics. I just have to add, this guy said he was over 300 pounds.

But I guess he just did full body. Maybe he carries it well yeah yeah he does maybe maybe he's a lobbyist any girl who lists a bunch of stuff she doesn't want toxic vibes any eastern european all right we're just wow clearing out the entire eastern block i don't know have you seen the pictures have you been to estonia all professional models they're just there to build their socials uh for any girl that was in dubai we actually i think brought that up so we agree dubai's oh weekends in dubai reminds me of dubai a lot of acronyms in their profile you're looking to go on dates not protests hope this

helps all right well this is just his personal preference but okay like towards the end those became more i think there's some real nuggets in here there is there are yeah yeah it was like helpful and then it sort of rollercoastered into a manifesto but it's all right we never we didn't have to read chapter two so we can just leave it there uh that was well written that was well written okay but here's the thing. I know where this guy is reaching out from. He's in another country, and his vibe and phrasing checks out. If you knew the city that he was hitting us up from,

which I'm not going to share, but if you knew the city he was hitting us up from, you would be like, okay, all right. And by the way, this guy wants to, maybe Kyle had us read this because he wants to plan. He wants to work with Kyle on something. Awesome. Okay.

I can't tell. He said he's from a city that is considered every girl being a Boston 12 with the morals of a Philly four. Wow. That's a violent combo. Yeah. Kyle, do you want me to put in? Well, I could just email him back, I guess.

Yeah, I guess. I just start it. You know, I don't always. There's a lot to read. I just like the favorite things to let you decide. No, it's a good. It's a good system. It's not like you had something more sturdy. No, I just it felt dangerously close to like a BuzzFeed article, but like with a different tone, like all those things seem really obvious. Right. But none of we didn't really think of any of them. But they're like, yeah, OK, that checks out. Like, yeah, I thought of the lead with a joke. Don't leave. Hey, what's up? Like, OK, again, I almost wanted to create a dating app just after this, where it would be me with like 17 of my best friends that aren't friends at some steak dinner.

And we're all like, yeah, this is awesome. Because like, that's the thing is you have to look for, if you're serious about like, you know, you're not just trying to have sex, but if you're seriously like trying to hope, if you see somebody who's never with anyone else in the pictures, you're like, wait a minute. The best point of all, I think what, like you should have a picture in scrubs. Yeah. You're like, wait a minute. The best point of all, I think what, like, you should have a pitcher in scrubs.

100%. 100%. That's a no-brainer. I'm mad we didn't think about that. Potentially, even, yeah, saving someone's life, like, you have, like, the flat line and all of a sudden

they're back spiking up again. You give a thumbs up. Like, the doctor thing sells. If you're not selling that in your profile, like, you're obviously missing out. I missed that last week. Went two for three on saving lives, but that's still a Hall of Famer in baseball.

She's like, hey, let's play two. Okay, last one. Here's the title. I want to fight Ryan on Rough and Rowdy. Oh, boy. Okay. What's up, guys? Six foot, 41 years old, 205. Stop stopped lifting a month after covid hit and failed to stop

start back up um but did trt at max prescribed levels uh and that prevented muscle loss not that ryan knows about that wink wink i don't know if that's a compliment or if he's talking shit i imagine if you start with i want to fight you yeah alright if you're talking about the TRT stuff you're right I don't we talking about testosterone that we're talking about TRT yeah no no all natty bro all natty over here

have definitely heard about how much better your injuries feel and have definitely gone wait so there's something I'm just not going to feel like this anymore I want to feel like this anymore I haven't done it I want to preface this email so this guy's not even going to pass the piss test and he wants to fight me although rough and

rowdy I don't imagine it's a really intense screening process can't imagine that's street legal yeah yeah probably more like probation than parole you know what I mean we had three middleweights test positive for meth that's alright that's alright because I helped him is this the deaf leopard guy throw him out there all right so um i want to preface this email by saying i love this podcast and ryan particularly i've listened from the start of risolo and scp

when ryan's name wasn't even on it thank you that being said i want to fight ryan on rough and rowdy i'm not a great fighter okay i'm two and four in street fights that's fucking awesome wow street fight record though yeah he said the last one was in 2005 so 17 years oh all right i have twin 14 year old high school freshman sons and want to teach them a lesson you can do anything you set your mind to. Even if it means getting your face beat in by your favorite podcaster. I'm willing to donate my winning purse to charity. Wait, so you just gave yourself the W here, huh?

I'm also aware that Ryan is punching above my weight class. I'll settle for fighting Kyle if Ryan attends the match. I'll fuck Kyle up to be honest. Wow. Hostile. Okay. He's way too slow. Man, everybody wants

to work with me. The other email was far more positive. I won't fight Cerruti. I'm a man. I'm 40 and Cerruti loves European soccer. Okay. I won't fight you either, dude. Sorry. Sorry to bum you out.

I'm dead serious about this i'll fight i'm a fighter i'll include a pic of me currently all right it's not it's not the most intimidating picture ever there's some accessories going on back here that in the household that are more intimidating um like nunchucks no i guess the guy likes to fight. I'd imagine you'd be more in six street fights unless there were more things going on. I don't know why he wants to come at Kyle. I don't like that. I don't like it at all, actually.

I was okay with it. Here's the thing. You have everything to lose, Ryan. This is like LeBron entering the dunk contest. At this point, there's just nothing to gain for him. It's the same thing for you here, so I don't get it. I don't like the hostility towards Kyle. I'm kind of put off by the email now. I'm not doing it because I'm not going to make

enough money off of it. Is there a dollar amount? I was going to say there's no dollar amount you even do this for. To fight somebody? Yeah, on rough and rowdy. What is it? Some random high school gym in West Virginia? well i don't know i mean you know eventually we all have a number for everything i think yeah i think that's probably true yeah uh

i i think i want to focus back on the kyle assumption here though why would this guy then is putting me although he assumed to win for himself by donating the money to charity he's putting he's putting me way higher above Kyle than he should at this point. I'm older. How old are you, Kyle? You're not even 30 yet. I'm 28. I'll be 29 November.

I think Kyle could fuck some guys up. I think I could fuck this guy up. I don't even know what he looks like. I'm just listening to what he says. I'm just more surprised as a guy who's got 14-year-old freshmen. How do you now decide you don't really have much to lose you look at you look at rough and rowdy and it seems like those guys normally are like it's more of like the hilarity factor of it right it's like wow look at these two fucking crazy people like i just i'm just surprised that you know a guy with twins i mean twins is a lot of

work i think anybody would know uh even without having kids i'm just surprised that he's like deciding he's got nothing to lose while his kids are still going through high school. That sounds crazy to me. Honestly, I think he just wanted to write a funny email. I want to prove to my kids you can do anything, so I'm just going to fight some random stranger. Okay, cool. Sick lesson, dude.

Kyle, what's your street fight record? I don't ever remember anything that's a clear loss. I mean, I haven't been. Undefeated. We could probably say undefeated. Yeah, I mean, I can remember two in Los Angeles. I mean, college, sometimes it gets messy when it's just like, I don't know. The college stats are tough.

You're not quite sure. All of a sudden, everybody's around. Is that a win? We got out of there. Did I lose? It's icy out. There's blood on the snow. It's not mine.

I don't know. It's just icy see how i'm not taking the l but um i don't know it's just it's a draw it's been a while for me too i'm just surprised at this guy after i mean it definitely hasn't been 17 years for me it's probably been more since uh 2016 so uh it definitely hasn't been 16 years pal i don't uh i don't like the assumption that he would smoke Kyle. I think he just wanted to write in an email here a little bit. He's kind of assuming the win, but also, I don't know. And honestly, most of those fights, do you know how hard it is to be actually conditioned to fight?

So everybody goes in. I'll be like, oh, I've been taking lessons. I've been doing all this shit. I've been doing it for like six to eight weeks. I've been training for this five-minute training. In 30 seconds, everybody's fucking exhausted. Totally. Swinging from the fucking shoelaces.

I remember. Is it straight boxing? I'm not 100% prepared. Yeah, I would street fight it before boxing. That's for sure. But rough and rowdy is not. It's boxing, right? It's not like floor stuff. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I took some boxing classes and like, all right. Yeah, everyone thinks I'll throw a couple of punches. The hardest hardest part like i did three rounds of some like amateur guy it was like part of like the the final or whatever and the hardest part is just holding your hands up

for three rounds like moving around like it's it's hard like it's not easy to like even just defend yourself while throwing punches like i man i don't know in summation don't underestimate kyle and you know where i'm at too once over october is over so you know if you ever want to if you're gonna take a trip to west virginia might as well take a better one to la what if we send you to fight in it kyle no because again it's boxing like i wouldn't want to box because you want to i want to throw my fucking weight around i got all this you know i want to throw my weight around yeah well if it's if it's looking south then i i got a whole nother way to to sort of try to tip the scale so um yeah i wouldn't box

you i think i think you're a bit of a loser bringing this up but uh that's fine yeah no i get it yeah i i wouldn't well i think we're good i think we covered it here thanks for the email though okay the twins well i luck with your rage, yeah. Look, I'm not dismissing him at all. I think he just wanted to write an email in, so there you go. Yeah, good for you. The email made it. I expected when it

said, I want to fight Russillo, it was going to be like a Daniel Jones or a Tua fan or something, or Westbrook's relative. I didn't know where that was going. So there you go. Okay. Wednesday, we'll have some more hoop stuff

because we did very little today with the season starting on Tuesday. So be locked in for that, as you mentioned at the top. Thanks to Kyle. Thanks to Saruti. Ryan Rosso Podcast. Please subscribe.

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