The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Brady vs. Rodgers, Andy Reid, and Playoff Story Time With Former NFL Fullback Jon Ritchie

Episode Date: January 18, 2021

Russillo shares his thoughts on James Harden's debut with the Brooklyn Nets (5:00) before talking with sports-radio host and former NFL fullback Jon Ritchie about the Buccaneers' win over the Saints a...nd upcoming NFC championship game vs. the Packers. Jon discusses his time playing for Andy Reid on the Eagles, why Reid is so universally loved, the infamous story of the Raiders' locker room after the team's 2001 loss to the Patriots in the "Tuck-Rule Game," what is next for the Eagles and Carson Wentz, and more (10:00). Finally, Ryen answers some listener-submitted Life Advice questions (49:30). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, it's Ryan Russillo. This is the Ryan Russillo Podcast, the Ringer Podcast Network. We're going to have John Richie on, former co-worker at ESPN, now has a show in Philadelphia. He's awesome. So we're going to talk some football with him, hopefully get a couple of good stories out of it. We get a little life advice and just a sprinkle of hoops for you off the top.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Okay, John Ritchie in a little bit. Life advice at the back end. Here we are. Four teams in. Love that Brady game. How'd you feel about that Brady game there, Kyle? I'm proud of my guy. I'm proud of my guy.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I've got to tell you. Maybe rethink the entire Tom and Bill rankings. Really? Just that game. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Big time. Big time.
Starting point is 00:00:48 We're over here. I was just going through all sorts of charts and whatnot. I'm not sure if we came to any kind of conclusion, but let's just say a lot of thought has gone into just kind of where Tom is now as a quarterback. I wasn't sure before Sunday, but that kind of performance. There's some crazy stuff there with Breeze. I will admit I was probably defiant about Breeze. This is something I said on the podcast on Saturday because I did some stuff with Kevin Ringer
Starting point is 00:01:18 for the Ringer NFL show. I can be late to anoint, but I'm also a little late to dismiss with, with athletes. Um, I don't know if I do that to normal people. That would be weird, I guess, but like, I don't know about this guy. Uh, so, you know, with Rogers playing the way he's playing this year and just how filthy it was at times against the Rams, you're, you're watching that and you're thinking, okay, well, this is why I don't give up on this guy. Because every time I think of something, and this is annoying because it's my job, but
Starting point is 00:01:50 everything is always a segment. Every time something happens, I'll say, and actually, it's one of the funnier arguments we get into because he just gets so sick of me saying it all the time, but he was right to be annoyed with me, but I was right about the deal. It's like something would happen, an accomplishment would happen, and I'd say, okay, but what's the topic? What's the actual talking point to this? And so if you were looking at Rogers and you were saying, okay, some of these numbers are declining. And then I would immediately say, okay, but what now is the segment? And I know that we've probably everybody that we've had on, whether I had Dilfer on Sando, who does a great
Starting point is 00:02:20 job with different statistics and tracking and stuff and the tier things and all that. Um, everyone that we've had on that we respect a lot with the NFL, I would always ask, okay, what, what is it about Rogers though? What are these numbers actually mean? Because I felt like in some circles,
Starting point is 00:02:34 it was almost being sold as you want to be off Rogers. Like he actually is declining that much. And that's, he's the kind of guy where I'm like, I don't, I don't know that I can do that. And it worked out. Whereas breeze,
Starting point is 00:02:44 I'm like, yeah, okay. that I can do that. And it worked out. Whereas Breeze, I'm like, yeah, okay. You know, he still makes great decisions. There's some numbers there that make you think he's been really good this year because he's mistake-free. That did not happen against Tampa. Tampa ran – I always like looking at man and zone breakdowns. Tampa ran a ton of man defense, and they basically were saying, the Saints, you need to beat our guys on these deep routes, and you breakdowns. Tampa ran a ton of man defense, and they basically were saying, the Saints, you need to beat our guys
Starting point is 00:03:07 on these deep routes, and you can't. And they didn't, and Thomas gave you nothing. And then you have the turnover game play out the way it did. So, you know, one of those games where I'm like, oh, this is different than Rodgers. This is where I'm like, you know what, Rodgers, we were all smart.
Starting point is 00:03:24 All of us that were really smart knew he still had it in him. It's not like he's 100 years old here. And then I felt just as dumb looking at Breeze. And I'll admit, like the last month or so, and not even with the ribs, probably, look, before that, I shouldn't even say month or so, but I know that I personally was kind of like, yep, he doesn't make a ton of mistakes, but man, it's tough to threaten any defense that's really good.
Starting point is 00:03:46 And here they were. They still had a chance in this game, which is probably the craziest thing. The top three quarterbacks in QBR, still alive, and then Tom Brady. So, Rodgers, Mahomes, and Josh Allen, and then Brady's ninth. So, there you go. We're going to do more on that. All right, I want to talk a little bit about the Brooklyn Nets because I was excited to watch that Nets game. A little afternoon basketball here out on the West Coast.
Starting point is 00:04:11 And, hey, we know it's going to look good. Okay. We know that Harden, despite all of my stuff and over the years of talking about him as a player, where I feel pretty justified in everything I've said about him, there's no part of me that will be like, okay, but because I don't like him necessarily, this isn't going to work. I was surprised. I guess when I look at reactions, I'll go,
Starting point is 00:04:38 wait, what did you think Harden and Durant were going to look like? Did you think it was going to look bad? Did you think they weren't going to score? Well, of course they're going to score. But they played the Orlando Magic, all right? And it was actually a close game. And the Magic are missing some guys. So when I look at this Nets part of it
Starting point is 00:04:57 and the recency of it, there's just a lot of like, oh, yeah, well, that's it. Nets coming out of the East. I saw a lot of that. A lot of it from people I've worked with. And I was surprised because I'm like, that's giving a Nets team with some serious questions about the makeup of the team, the Kyrie part where he's still not back yet.
Starting point is 00:05:20 That's just not going to go away. That part of it, Kyrie alone is enough to temper expectations. So this is is two things I'm not saying the Nets can't come out of the east I'm not saying they won't come out of the east I'm saying this this reaction of an 8 and 16 that doesn't play any defense who has a star who doesn't really seem to want to play basketball and Harden who you know let's face it you know what you're going to get. You're going to, you're going to win some games, the regular season, you're going to put up a ton of numbers. Um, but to just say they're going to come out of the East and defensively, we'll see how this looks. We'll see what happens, how much the hardened part of it changes. Harden had that new car smell in that game. It was actually really, really funny.
Starting point is 00:06:00 The first four times he touched it, he passed it before he took a shot. So it was like, Hey, I'm going to, you know, look at me, look at me passing the dudes out here and look he's always been an incredible passer he was he was actually great and then um defensively i think the first time he was used in a screen he fought real hard got through it steal and uh you know it's like okay then it was the nets broadcast team too so it's So it's Ian Eagle and Kustak who are terrific. And there's this announcer rule with Harden where you have to do the, I'll use the terrible word narrative here because it plays out perfectly. But the, hey, you know, Harden's actually a great post defender.
Starting point is 00:06:43 You're like, yeah, yeah. All of those times where harden is in the post over the course of a game like somehow the two times he gets posted up and holds his own that's enough to like make up for all the other bullshit that he does so look he's going to be super engaged in the beginning i don't care what it looks like at game 10 let me know what it looks like game 50 let me know where kairi's at. Defensively, they're middle of the pack in the NBA right now. They're 15th. That's not a death sentence by any means. Denver last
Starting point is 00:07:10 year was 16th. Houston was 15th. Houston, when they went small, it wasn't really about their defense, although the Lakers are a terrible matchup for them as it was their rebounding. Their rebounding was atrocious. They couldn't get any rebounds. So, that's it. It's not an anti-Nets thing.
Starting point is 00:07:26 It's a tad bit of confusion about just penciling them in to the NBA finals when I think there are other really good teams in the East. I mean, Boston's getting Kemba back, and they were flirting with the best record in the league. That's crazy to me. We'll see. We'll see what happens. We know it's going to look good. We know they're going to score points, but let's, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:07:52 we get a couple more games, not against the Magic under our belt. That's all I'm asking. John Ritchie, seven years in the league, eight playoff games. Quite the resume. Now with Joe DiCamera on WIP in Philadelphia. What's up, man?
Starting point is 00:08:08 I'm really fired up to talk to you. We had a reconnection recently. Yeah, we were buds. And then I was like, what happened to Ritchie? Yeah, well, I sort of relocated jobs a couple times. And we lost touch and i got back in touch with my voice twin after all these years and i don't really think we're voice twins i don't think so like it seems like a lot of people believe that we are yeah well i uh no no no that's that's fine i don't yeah the
Starting point is 00:08:44 voice when whenever anybody was like hey you guys look like each other too. And I'm like, do we, so who should be offended by that one? Um, so, all right, let's, uh, let's start with the games. Okay. I said this off the top. Like I love, I love trying to figure out, okay, what are they doing defensively? And to see what the Saints were doing or excuse me, what Tampa was doing against the Saints, their coverage, like, is that something immediate? You're like, okay,
Starting point is 00:09:12 so now we're going to have to run some man beaters. We got to figure this out. And then it never happens. Like there is this number I saw for breeze where breeze through to 26% open receivers, which is the lowest rate he's had in like five years. Like they just, nobody was beating anybody on any of these routes. you know that are you able when you're in that kind of game like what are the keys what are some of the things you're looking for being like okay this is what they're going to try to do against us well you you have a great idea what tendencies look like i i'm not sure what the tendencies were heading into that game, but that's an incredible number that you bring up. And if you have a quarterback who can't drive the ball in there
Starting point is 00:09:52 against tight coverage, then you are left where the Saints were left in the lurch to some degree. I don't know how they come up with numbers like that, though, Ryan. Like, who actually dictates the 26% covered or uncovered? Like, that seems a little subjective to me. I know that when you play a guy like Tom Brady, when you play a guy like Drew Brees, you're going to try to throw all sorts of combo coverages out there to try to give him something that he's, he's seen it all that you can't invent
Starting point is 00:10:34 something he hasn't seen. So you try to throw stuff out there that maybe he's seen less, or if you feel like you, uh, have the personnel that can just flat out outplay his personnel, his receivers, which I guess they were able to do, you go that route. That's amazing to me, though. It's not reinventing the wheel when you're playing coverage in the NFL. You're doing what you can with the personnel that you've got from a defensive perspective. I'm always amazed when an older quarterback,
Starting point is 00:11:18 like these legendary quarterbacks, go out there and look like they're hesitant. And Drew looked like he was hesitant to push the ball downfield. Now, I don't know what the reason was for that. I don't know if that's once upon a time he had his shoulder reconstructed before he landed in New Orleans
Starting point is 00:11:37 and now he's got arthritic change in there and so he can't physically do what he once did. I don't know if that's because he's not a hundred percent certain he, his receivers are, uh, are going to do the right thing. I don't know if that's because he's not clear on the coverage itself. So I got to go back and look at, uh, the details on that one. But a fascinating game. My favorite game of the day. That's for sure. Of the weekend, I should say.
Starting point is 00:12:11 No, same deal. Do you see enough from Tampa to have a read on them against Green Bay? Yeah, I think they're not good enough. I mean, I kind of, I don't want to jump the gun on this one and say there's just no way that the ball will bounce their way again like it did against the Saints because they took fate by the horns. I mean, they manufactured their own destiny by playing great defense, but I do not believe you will get multiple takeaways
Starting point is 00:12:44 against this Packers offense. And I could be proven wrong. But people seem to just completely discount the weather thing, too. It sucks. It sucks so bad playing in the cold. And those Green Bay guys, they hate it too but at least they're used to it and they know what to expect heading in like it's so stingy like just catching a ball is all stingy and you're like oh man i hate that you try hitting people when it's cold like that
Starting point is 00:13:21 tampa they don't know what's about to come their way. And, you know, I experienced it myself when I got to Philadelphia. You know, we'd be playing in the postseason and I would have much rather played in the dome. I'll play on the road. I don't care. Just take me where it's not minus five degrees
Starting point is 00:13:44 because this makes me hurt so much worse. There's more mental toughness that comes into this thing than people realize. And Green Bay just has a real advantage there. Green Bay is a better team. They finally, once again, have balance offensively. Aaron Rodgers is just untouchable. And they've got cold weather on their side.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I think it's, yeah, a done deal. The Packers are going to be in the Super Bowl. Okay, you had Andy Reid, that 2003 Philly team. You were talking about that. So you had him. You beat Green Bay. You lost to Carolina. Carolina went on to play, obviously, the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I can't believe how long ago that was. I mean, this kind of blows my mind. You haven't played in like 15 years? Yeah, 16. Boy, that is crazy, isn't it? I couldn't believe it when I was looking at it. I'm like, wait, this dude hasn't played since 04? Yeah. isn't it i couldn't believe it when i was looking at i'm like wait this dude hasn't played since oh four yeah well i played in i played in camp in oh five and i wasn't good enough to make a team anymore and my body broke down which camp were you in i was in phillies i was i thought
Starting point is 00:14:56 i was gonna be the fullback and they cut you yeah andy called me up and we're going to go ahead and cut you. We're going to go ahead and release you. What did he say? I was totally blindsided. That's what he said. We're going to go ahead and release you. We don't think your knee is where it needs to be. The other guy is younger and he's cheaper. Well, great. be and the other guy is younger and he's cheaper and you know well it's great so i went to cincinnati and failed my physical there and it was done were you were you done was he right about your knee unceremonious uh yeah yeah he was right when i was in cincinnati they put they x-rayed my
Starting point is 00:15:42 reconstructed shoulder and my reconstructed knee and the doctor put the x-rays up there on the you know whatever the light board i said wow i've never seen x-rays that have all these colors on them what is this is this new technology he said that's sharpie marker where i've circled all the crap that's wrong with you we know know you've been playing, but we don't know how you've been playing. Like you're jacked up. We're not even going to take you to the, the facility. We're taking you back to the airport. Like you're not playing football. So I called the, I called it off. I called the, my, my agent and said, I want to be able to play with my son, who's now going to be 16 in a couple days when I'm 40 years old. And I guess I can. I mean, I can throw the ball and shoot hoops and do all
Starting point is 00:16:40 that stuff with them. So it paid off. And I do wonder if it was all for the best that my body broke down before my brain did. And fingers crossed, I hope that I was able to preserve some of the brain cells and I didn't set myself up for future atrocities and brain problems. I worry about that a lot. I know you do.
Starting point is 00:17:09 And I know we've talked about it in the past too. I think the last discussion we had about it, wasn't there a chance that you could get screened for it? And you were like, I just don't want to know. I was afraid. Yeah, I was afraid to find out. I have since been doing, you know, been proactive, especially about my nutrition and just getting all the testing done, staying on top of it. And I'm good.
Starting point is 00:17:35 I'm good so far. But it's, yeah, it's, it's the thing that scares me the most is that, you know, a guy like Kevin Turner, who was when, who was, when I got to Oakland, John Gruden's first year as head coach in Oakland, he put in the tapes of Kevin Turner, his previous fullback, and said, do what Kevin Turner does. Here's 93 week, do it exactly like Kevin Turner. Here's 14 counter halfback away. Do it exactly like Kevin Turner. Kevin Turner passed away from ALS. He was like a hero of mine. The guy was an awesome fullback, but he was asked to do the same stuff that I did in the same offense for the same guy
Starting point is 00:18:23 for about the same period of time. And so I, I worry about the causality and the, you know, the side effects of what we did to ourselves. Yeah. I can imagine. I think there was one game you told me you rammed into like another linebacker in, in John's offense. Like it was like 70 snaps. You just plowed. What was it? This was like 2000 or 2000. I think it was 2000. We played, we came back to Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:18:57 So I got to play, you know, back in my home state against the Eagles and we had to run the ball 50 times. It, and a good majority of those were lead ISOs, which is crazy. Like you might see one lead ISO in an NFL game today because it's stupid. It's a stupid concept. Hey, we're going to take two guys. You both weigh 250 pounds.
Starting point is 00:19:21 We're going to line you up like 10, 12 yards from each other. Both run as fast as you can and jam your heads together. Okay. Now do it 50 times. And the thing, and, and, uh, yeah, that game was crazy. And their, their Mike linebacker was Jeremiah Trotter, who is a monster. Yeah. Uh, try, I don't even think he made it out for the second half of that game now he probably had something else going on but uh i it was brutal when i got to philadelphia as a free agent that's the game all the players who were eagles for that game they wanted to talk about it and say like man you guys kicked our asses you ran
Starting point is 00:20:06 the ball up and down the field on us and i was like you kicked my ass i mean granted it was uh we got the better on the scoreboard it was 20 to 10 but when i got home uh people looked me in the eyes and said you just took five years off your life with the glazed look uh you did something wrong to your your head by bashing it into all those people did you uh did you like playing for andy more than john or the other way around oh well i mean that's well that's a loaded question isn't it i i not yeah it's probably crap i just sorry i just threw my phone i got so flustered with that uh andy i played for andy for for two seasons for for two and a half years uh grew drafted me yeah i played for grew for four years and then he left you know when he got traded to tampa so
Starting point is 00:21:07 i played for grew like twice as long i probably got to know him a little bit better i'll tell you it was andy reed was amazing and he what is it what is it about him legend yeah what because i i'm like happy that andy has one now because and Andy was always in the group of really good coach, good system, but he's not good at these things. And then all of a sudden, all those criticisms go away when you magically win one. But I'm always kind of interested in having you explain in further detail of why a guy like Andy Reid is so revered.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Some guys command respect just because uh the way their demeanor the way they carry themselves um andy reed is a guy that everyone everyone adores because you know he's gonna he's gonna have your back as a player he's always going to blame you know take all the blame you know he'll never sell you out but the way things were set up you know when he was in Philadelphia he was wearing a lot of hats I mean he was the head coach and and you know running things in the front office for the most part and he he was a greatator, but he did a great job of bringing the right guys, right guys in a great assistant coaches, as you can see. I mean, they're all, a lot of them are head coaches now, it seems like,
Starting point is 00:22:36 and having success, but he was terse. There wasn't a lot of oververbalization. He wasn't getting flowery with it. If he said a couple words, you knew that they carried weight. And when he was standing down at the other end of the field during an offensive period and you caught a ball and ran close to him and he said some things to you, you know, you remembered those things. He was, he was always observing. He was always, uh, I mean, a brilliant offensive mind who, who customized his offense to the skill players that, that he had available. So we appreciated that about him, but he's just a guy who wouldn't, he never asked you to do too much, like more than, than he would do himself.
Starting point is 00:23:35 You know, I guess as a former college player, he sort of understood that dynamic better than some coaches do. And, and guys trusted him and, and he's a, he's a likable man. Uh, he he's, he's good with people, despite the fact that he keeps, you know, he he's one for brevity with the talking part of things. He's, he's, he's honest and, uh, just a guy that we all respected a whole lot. And, you know, like when he held my now 16-year-old son the year we went to the Super Bowl, it meant a lot to me. There's like a father figure thing that sort of takes over with Andy Reed because you know how much he cares about you as a player but you know more it's more family oriented it feels like family with Andy that's not to say I I don't think that great things about John Gruden I I love Drew uh and and always will yeah I don't think I don't think it came off, um, like that at all.
Starting point is 00:24:45 So I, yeah, I just think the, the Andy part of it, of people in Philly were, were over them and they were just like, all right, it's time to move on.
Starting point is 00:24:53 And then I, you know, knowing everything that he was going through personally, I kind of was like, gosh, this guy's not going to take any kind of break, but sometimes people need work to be healthier. Um,
Starting point is 00:25:01 as opposed to, you know, cause he was going through to lose a son the way he lost his son. And then he went right back into it. And, and honestly, like it was a, it was a decision at the time. I was like, man, this, I don't know. I don't know about this, but then I didn't, I didn't realize I, you know, I don't know the guys, so I'm just on the outside guessing, but he's, he's right back at it.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And I kind of loved what happened yesterday with Henny in that they didn't really change the offense. You know, it was, it was like, it's going to be changed. Cause it's not my homes, but they didn't screw around. Like they weren't apologizing for having the lead and then having Henny in there. They were still trying to play football.
Starting point is 00:25:32 So he believes in his guys. I mean, you wouldn't, he wouldn't have you on that team. If he didn't trust, you could do the job description. He doesn't view it as a major drop off. I would, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I mean, I wouldn't have trusted me the way he trusted me as a player. And it was amazing. I got there to Philadelphia and he would say things like, you know, we're going to get you the ball. I'm going to get you the ball down near the goal line. You're never going to score so many touchdowns
Starting point is 00:26:02 as you score here with the Philadelphia Eagles. And he was right. I mean, I scored a few touchdowns. It's not like I was blowing it up, but he actually honored that statement. I played fullback. I mean, I got to catch the first touchdown from Donovan McNabb at the link. That's a real honor. You know, cause Andy made it happen.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I amazingly, I just, I think the world of them and I'm, I'm so glad that he's got a chance to win another and another and another. He deserves it. Do you think you would fit in at Buffalo? Like if you would have had to play there, that seems like you should have played for Buffalo. The Raiders too perfect for you though because it's you know whether it's your
Starting point is 00:26:49 love of Mastodon and knowing that like okay Raiders like John Richie yeah that makes sense there the Raiders felt right that's for sure uh man the Bills you knowcdermott another guy i mean he was he was in philly uh as an assistant when when i was playing here that guy meant business that guy i never saw him smile i mean he was like guys would mess with him all the time like just just trying to trying to like make sure he was human sean mcdermott was like a cyborg when back in the day, but he's another guy. I mean, he learned from Andy and,
Starting point is 00:27:29 and, you know, Ron Rivera, another one, these guys, they know what they're doing, but yeah, it seems like Buffalo's having an awful lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And you know, the, the quarterback seems to be a big reason why. I mean, he wasn't talking about how, you know, he, he loves the, the area. He loves it. Yeah. He goes, I don't want traffic, you know, or any of that stuff. Like I wanted to go to a small town. And that's just the best.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Like if you're a Buffalo fan and you get to hear that as opposed to the NBA, the NBA, you'd be like, should we trade them now for two firsts? You know? Yeah. Well, I, I sort of agree with that. I wish I could have done without the traffic in the Bay Area and Philadelphia. I mean, it's the bane of my existence. And the anchor bar up there in Buffalo is pretty legit. I don't know if you've been. I've never been to Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Wow. I've been almost everywhere. But if there's not a college town for you know football or something those are the places i haven't been san antonio's another one i haven't been to san antonio i'm with you on that buffalo you should you should check out the anchor bar and then you can go to niagara falls which was very underwhelming to me i heard yeah i mean i saw that it wasn't like Jim and Pam got married there. I know.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Yeah. I do remember Superman, Superman, or was it two? No, I think it was one Superman. No, it was,
Starting point is 00:28:53 I think it is. Yeah. I'm not sure, but I'm with you. It doesn't feel like one where the kids hang and look. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't look like that at all.
Starting point is 00:29:03 It was one third the size of what i expected which was that's not cool no it wasn't great majestic the chamber of commerce is going to hate this podcast out there they're gonna be like hey guys take it easy i just couldn't tell like has it worn down since they filmed superman like is this just erosion because it looks nothing like superman's niagara falls it's a lot of questions what's going on what is what are some of your other questions about topography that you wanted to touch on what city graphical which city have you not been to that you want to go to uh what uh i i want to go to scotland you know like that's my family is from so i guess i don't know edinburgh yeah you know you just said scotland
Starting point is 00:29:54 that's fine glasgow glasgow uh that's what richie is richie used to be mac richie and we had like a clan and stuff dude you look like you're still in a clan i mean if there's anyone that yeah so i do i have a kill i'm dying to go to scotland because i'd like to retrace you know the ancestry or whatever that'd be pretty cool uh but also san antonio i hear is great uh i've i've've not been to Austin and they've got an awesome music scene. So I'd like to go to Austin. So basically Texas and Scotland are my next destinations. Okay, that's cool. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:30:34 No, actually they're not because I'm not going to go anywhere because I love our show. And that's Monday through Friday. And I have a 10-year and a 14 year old and a 16 year old. So I we're staying put. Got school. I got one in elementary, one in middle and one in high school. Just have the high school guy keep track of it. And you go to Scotland, just walk around, start ramming, ramming into trees, hold down the fort. I'll throw the caber. I'll do some caber tossing over there. That's right. Caber tossing.
Starting point is 00:31:08 That looks easier on TV than I bet it is. It does not seem that, that challenging, but I bet it is a land. You have to get it to land like perfectly up and down. That's the trick. Like I know I can toss that thing. Yeah. But I don't know if I would be
Starting point is 00:31:26 able to aim it properly. This is one of my favorite stories from you. I don't want you to share it with everybody. Um, the snow game at new England tuck rule, uh, take us through the end of that and your, your celebration, which was not a celebration celebration no well that was that was unbelievable that was the year of 9-11 and uh so there were a lot of traveling that season was a lot different than it had been previously uh you know a lot more precautionary steps and we're going the whole way across the country we never should have been playing in new a lot more precautionary steps. And we're going the whole way across the country. We never should have been playing in New England to begin with because that year we had blown the last game
Starting point is 00:32:15 of the regular season against the Jets. I remember that. We lost out on the first round by. We should have been at home throughout. You lost your last three games. were 10 and 3 really see i i didn't remember that detail but we just i don't know no one showed up against the jets we played them the very following week in oakland again and just blew them out then we had to head uh to this was the last game at the old Foxborough, the tuck rule game.
Starting point is 00:32:48 It was, I'd never played in conditions that were that frozen. I mean, like before the game, it was like permafrost. That field was, it was frozen solid, rock hard. So we were, everyone put the inch long cleats put the screw-in inch-long cleats, and then the equipment guys sharpened the inch-long cleats. So it was like we were wearing, what are they called, crampons? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:17 The things that spelunkers use for mountain climbing. Mostly spelunkers, yeah. Yeah, which was amazing. climbing those were mostly spelunkers yeah yeah which was amazing uh but no uh to condense this we got opposed everyone knows that and what's going on on the sideline because you're going wait they're going to overturn this thing like what do you guys talk about on the side we we knew we'd won i mean brady walked off the field everyone you know their offense left they they knew that they'd turned the ball over it was a sack and and beak recovered uh or was yeah beak recovered charles gets the sack beak recovers and and we're going home like our offense is on the field we're
Starting point is 00:34:01 waiting to basically run the clock out and we're standing there standing there the snow's coming down and they're not restarting the game and so then like some of the officials are wandering around we're like dude what's going on here and we hear that they're talking to new york and we have no idea why they're talking talking to New York. Well, okay, it was a fumble. No one knew what tuck rule was or that there was a tuck rule. No one knew that there was anything that should be deliberated. We thought there was a delay with like the TV link up or something from weather. We're confused. So when it was all said and done, we lost for a lot of reasons other than just that play. But as it turned out, there was a lot of animosity in the locker room. How out of control? What did you guys do? It was the last time anyone would ever be in that locker room.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And so there were no more sinks attached to the walls in that locker room somehow. I mean, by the time we left, you know, toilets that they might have been, did everything you could to deconstruct the locker room for the construction guys who would be in there and wrecking the locker room when they tore the stadium down. So I guess we just helped them along in that process of tearing the stadium down. And there were never any negative ramifications for that i mean we raised the locker room like took it to the ground trashed it i mean just you guys you were telling me it was like wild animals right just you went yeah uh i mean i vague recollection once again uh no names that i can recall but it it got very destructive and i mean it was a lot of pent-up frustration and emotion and a ton of testosterone going on
Starting point is 00:36:13 with the removal of fixtures and whatnot and it was bad it got bad i've i've never been i've never seen anything like that sheer destruction and mayhem mayhem. And the kicker, like I said, is that we never heard anything about that. It just completely, I don't know, went away. I guess because it was the last game at the stadium. And it didn't really matter. So at some point you thought you were going to get a call. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Like, hey, guys, we're fininging you you just tore the stadium apart with your bare hands but that did not that did not happen did gruden did anyone any of the guys on the staff be like all right hey like dial it back a little or god did anyone say stop destroying everything um again this is this is very hazy long long ago i know i i don't think so i mean everyone was completely incensed and it felt right man it just felt right brian it was justice being served i've always loved the part where you just they were like whatever let it go yeah because i don't know if every owner would have done that the crafts just were like yeah hey we got one over on that team they deserved to take out a little bit of that pent-up frustration and we're about to wreck the whole stadium in a week anyway so we'll let it
Starting point is 00:37:46 we'll let it slide this time okay last thing here what what happened or let's do it this way what's going to happen with wentz what does the city want somebody you know as you said hosting the show five days a week you guys have a better idea of the pulse. What's that like right now? It's actually, we did a poll today and it's 49% of the city wants Carson wants to be back and playing quarterback for the Eagles next year. So it's 50, 50 still, despite everything that's coming out, I mean, it was a doozy just recently. Jeff McClain, a writer for the Inquirer here in Philadelphia, just did a massive expose about how Carson essentially refused to take coaching and undermined Doug Peterson and the staff. and undermined Doug Peterson and the staff and that he was a bigger problem than people were willing to fess up to. I guess I think there's still a lot of confusion
Starting point is 00:38:52 as to who's most responsible for the downfall of this Eagles organization over the last couple of years. And there's people like me who feel like it's Howie Roseman who has no business being a GM, yet is somehow our GM with total power over every decision in that building. There are a lot of people who feel like Doug Peterson,
Starting point is 00:39:15 as evidenced by the fact that he's not next in line to take any of these head coaching jobs. I mean, you've got two openings that are left, and one of them's with the Eagles. He's not going to get that one. Yeah, rule that one out. Yeah, the Texans, I mean, that was rumored long ago that the Texans had interest in Doug Peterson,
Starting point is 00:39:36 but it doesn't seem like Doug is a guy who's in high demand right now. So there are those who blame Howie, there are those who blame Doug. So there are those who blame Howie, there are those who blame Doug, and there are those who blame Carson. And certainly it's a mixture of all three. But I think it's Howie's... I mean, it's a joke that this man has been given the freedom
Starting point is 00:40:02 to control the fate of this organization, if you ask me. But Carson was bad. And we're learning every day that Carson was worse than we thought bad was because he was a terrible teammate, it sounds like. He was difficult to coach. He was set in his ways and insistent on doing things the easy way for him, which is pretty messed up because it goes against everything we were told about this guy. So, uh, sort of flip a coin right now. It sounds like this, uh, you know, Jeffrey Lurie and Howie Roseman. Oh, we found out that Jeffrey, that Howie Roseman was setting the game day actives and inactives, which is crazy. What new coach wants to come into a situation where he doesn't even get to say who's up and who's down?
Starting point is 00:40:59 There's so much to talk about with the way that this organization fell from grace over a very short period of time. And Carson Wentz seems to be the major villain in a lot of people's eyes. whole thing where Carson could circumvent Doug's authority by going to Howie Roseman, the math GM. So this, uh, this isn't getting solved anytime soon, but it sounds like we might be Josh McDaniels in it up, uh, according to all those who are in the know which could be good because it could carson to actually have to be accountable for the first time in a few years yeah the carson thing has been a weird timeline man and then you know eventually you have to just sort of give in to the reports that enough of it's around because i always felt like yeah if you have a guy on a team all you need to do is find two people out of the 50
Starting point is 00:42:05 to interact with him. You can make him look bad if you want to. And earlier on, that's kind of what it felt like. It was like, okay, so there's a pocket of guys on the team that don't like Carson, so now it's turning into Carson's this bad guy, and is that really accurate? Or is it just a couple guys that don't vibe with him?
Starting point is 00:42:20 And then it's morphed to what is now. There's a real problem with this guy. Whatever his deal is, he doesn't get it now. But I am not... He's not working. Yeah, even though, you know, in the top I said I'm very... Sometimes I'm slow to dismiss players. Even with all of this, I don't know that I'm in this huge hurry
Starting point is 00:42:39 to get off of Carson because we know what he's capable of. We do. I mean, this year's a mess, but I don't know. I don't know. It's obviously weird. I feel like if they're able to hire Josh McDaniels, who's not, you know, it doesn't feel like he's having teams beaten down his door either because of the whole Colts fiasco
Starting point is 00:43:00 and the, I mean, complete explosion in Denver when he was a head coach last time. I do think the discipline and the approach, the no-nonsense approach he'll take, will serve Carson well. Because we heard that when Frank Reich and John DiFilippo were here as offensive coordinator and his quarterback coach, they demanded more, they expected more of them, and they were the ones with experience in the league, and he was the young player. I hope that Josh McDaniel's success in this league, if he becomes the coach, will allow him to exert influence and discipline on Carson,
Starting point is 00:43:45 who seems to be sorely in need of discipline. It's great to catch up with you, man. Check out John Ritchie, WIP, five days a week. Yeah, 10 to 2. 10 to 2. Great to see you and hear you, Ryan, and stay virtually in touch. And I'm coming out there someday soon.
Starting point is 00:44:08 It looks kind of nice. Yeah, we got a good crew out here. Yeah. I need to, well, no, I'm coming to your house. I'm coming to visit. I'm not just, I'm not coming to, I'm coming to your house because I am jealous of your life. I'm trying to vicariously enjoy your life
Starting point is 00:44:30 and it's difficult. I mean, I'm Mr. Mom here and you're doing, uh, fun things. So I will be there as soon as I can be just, uh, make sure sure there's an extra blanket on the floor. Perfect. I've got a great spot on the floor. I might have a 10-year-old and 14-year-old and 16-year-old. Four blankets, please. No problem. We had a four-year-old here the other day.
Starting point is 00:44:58 It was tough. I was adjusting. I had one packet of fruit snacks and I threw on Transformers for him. No way! Transformers for him. No way. Transformers. That's a great choice. Yeah. I was like, what do you want to watch?
Starting point is 00:45:08 He's like, Transformers. I love Transformers. They were my favorite, man. 1984. Transformers were where it was at. It's too bad you weren't here. This kid loved them. You guys would have had a lot to catch up on.
Starting point is 00:45:20 I know. You're right. All right, my man. Well, I miss you, man. Thank you. Take care. You want details? Bye. I drive a Ferrari.
Starting point is 00:45:32 355 Cabriolet. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you could possibly imagine. And best of all, kids, I am liquid. So, now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required. Lifeadvicerr at gmail.com. Okay, you know what? We're going to do a couple, we're going to do some new things here with Life Advice. I've got a personal trainer
Starting point is 00:45:56 who's a guy who's been really cool to me over the years. I don't know that we've actually ever hung out, but he's an IG model. So he's wicked, wicked cool. He's actually great, but he's going to come on and do life advice, all fitness related. All right. Cause I don't think I'm qualified to do it. And honestly, my father is so sick of hearing about people talking about me working out. He's like, I wish you were fat and out of shape. I'm so sick of hearing about people talking about me working out. He's like, I wish you were fat and out of shape. I'm so sick of hearing about this. He's like, you're not even that impressive physically. I'm like, yeah, no, more.
Starting point is 00:46:32 I'm just, I'm exaggerating here a little bit. And then we got Daymond John this week. So do this. Hit us up. You could just put fitness in the title. I mean, I guess you don't have to, whatever, because I just want to be able to sort these for Kyle the right way. But so we'll do some fitness ones with my guy who we'll confirm it later.
Starting point is 00:46:50 So I'm not going to use his name yet. But Daymond John is coming on. So I don't know. He's a little different than just straight investing. I'm trying to find the right guy for that. But this will be maybe people starting businesses, small businesses. You know, I'll ask him about, you know, where he sees everything, especially this next year. You know, hey, where are you with stocks and that kind of stuff?
Starting point is 00:47:11 Because I know a lot of people keep asking. I just, I don't feel qualified to be like, hey, well, I did this and this worked. And then here are the things that I didn't do. And then everybody just starts, you know, trying to do whatever I did. And I'm not even saying there's no guarantees. I would hate to give anyone advice. I'm not going to pick stocks for you. I'm not going to do that stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:30 I mean, the most basic thing ever is just make sure if you have any kind of 401k that you're kicking in because you're losing free money basically by not doing it if your company matches. So there you go. All right. Here we go. Big fan of the show. Got a question situation. A little bit about me. 29, live in Boston, have a pretty successful career, real estate going. Side note, not a huge fan of the real estate advice you do allow, especially the mortgage stuff. Oh, okay. Well, don't quote a guy a number and then say, hey, you know, we're actually going to be like 30% down after you've closed. Sort of closed,
Starting point is 00:48:03 but not really. But I get it. I don't, I'm not anti every realtor and mortgage person. I've just, I've had some frustration in the past and I don't, I don't think that's, you know, I'm not going to do the real estate sector, so let's keep it moving. All right, here we go. I'm a big guy, 6'4", and I've always been a bigger guy. Big frame, carry my weight pretty well. Kyle knows that. After college, I let myself go a lot. Didn't adjust to adult life all that well. A lot of us don't. Work too much, ate poorly, never went to the gym.
Starting point is 00:48:32 I ballooned up to 370. 370. That's big. All right. He says he's down to 285 now. Diet comes and goes, but I've gotten pretty religious about going to the gym, so it's done pretty well for me. This past year since my weight weight loss i've been a lot more active in the dating pool than i was before yeah i gotta tell you i don't know that there's a ton of depth um
Starting point is 00:48:55 at 370 for you like if you're a girl and you're gonna date somebody 370 that's a that's like almost a fetish. Yeah, I can't imagine. I mean, dropping 100 pounds, you're like, all right. Because, dude, 370 is big. That's big. So, yeah, I'm psyched. Whenever a bigger guy is emailing the show, being like, you know, the dating pool, you got to think about the other side sometimes in that dating pool, right? You're going to be like, Hey, if I weigh 370, will a ton of
Starting point is 00:49:28 girls like me? Or if I weigh a hundred pounds less, will there be more girls that like me? So there you go. Okay. So he's crushing it. Not a ton of sustained relationships, mostly a series of hookups. Okay. I finally met a girl I really liked. I knew I liked her from the jump. She's a gorgeous 25-year-old Peruvian girl who's way out of my league. We matched a dating app in an effort to impress her. I'm worried I may have overdone things. First date was at one of the best restaurants in the city, number nine park. Second one was one of the more expensive steakhouses, Grill 23. Shout out. I usually stay around Girl 23 when I go home. Things have been really, really great. We've been seeing each other for about
Starting point is 00:50:10 two months. Finances aren't an issue. Like I said, I do well. My man broke down how well he does, including investment properties and the whatnot at 29. Super proud of you. All right. But I don't think that's essential to where he is with his mortgage and tenants um to you but just our guy's doing well here so he says i'm just worried that i'm setting myself up to be used i've still got the fat guy insecurity that creeps into the back of my head saying she's only with you because of your money am i overthinking this is it even the worst thing is she's tolerating me because of this it's not like i'm about to propose or anything. Okay. Um, wants to know if I've had any experiences. If somebody who's really attractive wants to date me and tell their
Starting point is 00:50:52 friends cause he's doing all right. I don't care. I mean, I just, all of us are keeping track of what the other person brings to the table. Okay? So some are categorized as like, oh, that's kind of shitty. But what are you doing? You know what I mean? You're attracted to her and that's why you're hanging out with her. And maybe if she's like,
Starting point is 00:51:17 let me rephrase this. I don't blame anybody for wanting to be with somebody who's successful. Right? And if you, by being successful, end up meeting somebody who likes you, then all you're doing is putting together your own personal portfolio of what positives you bring to the table. And if a good career and some money are part of it, can you blame the other person? I mean, especially in
Starting point is 00:51:45 this situation, like I don't, if I mean, what, what person would be like, I want to meet somebody broke who has no prospects. You know, what if, what if this is somebody that wanted to start a family and they go, okay, this guy's got his shit together. So if, if that's what it is, like I get, Hey, I don't want to be used. They're going to see signs. Okay. Like there's times, like there was one person I remember I did. She didn't pay for anything, like nothing ever. And she actually did all right. Okay. But never paid for anything.
Starting point is 00:52:16 If it was fucking frozen yogurt, she'd like have her hand out for 10. And I was like, oh man. And I don't care. I don't care if paying for everything. I 10. And I was like, oh man. And I don't care. I don't care for paying for everything. I expect to, I'm older, whatever. It's not a big deal. But every now and then there are little signs you can say like, oh, okay, this person's going to be like great with money or this person's going to be terrible with money. And look, it wasn't like I was going to get married anyway. But first, like you said this, you're not about to propose. So she's hanging out
Starting point is 00:52:44 with you and you like hanging out with her. And part of it's because you're successful. Don't apologize for that. Who cares if guys are like, oh man, the only reason she's with him, who cares? Who cares? Like the athlete that's dating somebody. Oh, the only reason she's with him is because he's an athlete. Yep.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Um, the older guy with a much better looking younger girlfriend. Like, oh, the only reason he's, well, yep, yep. Because she's hot. Exactly. Yep. I prioritize that over all the other things. Sorry. You know?
Starting point is 00:53:15 So don't worry about any of this stuff. Just don't. I wouldn't. And then if, you know, she has these moments where you're like getting a little thrown off. And you're like, oh, wait, is she going to be bad with money? I don't know. Maybe leave a hundred bucks on the dresser and see if she steals it just kidding don't do that okay uh want to follow up with our our bar cart guy um kyle was really excited kyle had an emergency zoom meeting for potential investors i've been thinking about he's been thinking about
Starting point is 00:53:46 you he did write back he goes thanks for reading that update the ex got her own dog so that window was closed but she'll probably still be good friends for a long time which i can deal with it was her move to leave by the way all right so i think we kind of figure that out so this is the guy that wants to either stay. We were saying, Hey, move, um, that he's wants to start a bar car thing.
Starting point is 00:54:08 And so he said that it's, even though it's in the panhandle, um, the bars of vintage Airstream that's gutted into a bar. So that's probably, yeah. Kyle's freaking out right now. He wants picks.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Um, but this is the fall. This is the reason I'm reading it. Normally I'm not always doing these. He said when it does get rolling that Kyle myself have a round or two on him. All right. And some merch visors. Kyle, this guy is going to send visors.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kyle's so excited. Kyle. Kyle and I talked about this off the air afterwards where he was like yeah dude you know like i think he's i think he's really on to something i'm already imagining the color of it this is great i know
Starting point is 00:54:52 i don't know i don't know what the rules are on that kind of thing you know like can you just start one is it a food truck but then you can just have a mobile bar i thought liquor license were like addresses because there's a spot i just moved into across the street there's like an empty place and it says it's got a liquor license already so if you wanted to move in there so i was wondering if like it's like tied to an address i don't know yeah i think the liquor license game is like one of the hardest things to be in just from like the very limited background that i have of knowing people who have to get them things to be in just from like the very limited background that i have of knowing people who have to get them yeah all my friends had them you know for the bars back in burlington so it wasn't
Starting point is 00:55:31 wasn't that hard um one guy got in trouble and uh then they threatened to take it away from them so um a lot of times that's what you're buying. You're right. Like, you know, whether it's extending the lease or, you know, buying, I think there are going to be so many places that are closed next summer or this upcoming summer, like places that are still hanging on. And that's the thing that, you know, of, of the many things that have sucked in the last year. But I worry about the small business people too, because I just think that you've spent your whole life getting this thing open and you're going to probably make a bunch of bad financial decisions to do whatever you can to keep it open. And obviously with people thinking, hey, this will be a couple months. And then it's like, no, everything's closed again. I don't know. This outdoor seating thing here in my town's ridiculous. You know, they basically, a bunch of these restaurants are going to stay open with outdoor seating. And everybody was fine with it.
Starting point is 00:56:28 And then a couple people on the town board said, nope. And then they started leaving the tables out there. And you could do the takeout and just sit there. And then they shut that down, too. But then supposedly in February, they're just going to let everybody do outdoor seating again. So, I don't know. I'm not trying to go on some rant and complain about it all. It's just I don't really know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:56:45 All right. Uh, let's pick one more here. Uh, this one's not an advice podcast is great. Happy for you commented recently. How hard do you work on your legs? And that it shows we just,
Starting point is 00:56:54 we just went over this. So this is my fault. Um, he's like, I wasn't entirely convinced. I did some research and sounded, found a pick from 2014, 2014.
Starting point is 00:57:03 And I was shocked. Um, they're goddamn statuesque thanks man okay uh government contractor early 40s working uh whoa let's go guys over in uh afghanistan with covid and troop withdrawal back of hangers become a makeshift gym. All parties working program roughly 60 day on, 60 day off rotation. I guess that's what they're saying here, 60 day on. So people come and go all the time. New group arrived a few days back and this morning have this guy working out shirtless in this shit ass gym. For me, I'm like, what the fuck? Pretty disgusted.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Co-workers not so bothered. I work 12 hour shifts, seven days a week week and most of that is in the hangar is it or is it not just bad etiquette guy also scoots around on electric skateboard thing board with one big wheel so maybe just picked him as a douche from the beginning all right uh i was to say there's a lot, there actually isn't much here to this. So I don't think, you know, would I like it better if you could not wear a shirt at the gym? I actually would, but would I do it? No, I probably wouldn't do it. Like, I think it's funny and I think it's kind of awesome. Um, but at the same time, I don't know. It's, it's, it's kind of a, I can't believe, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:25 I'm very split on it because I wouldn't do it because it's such a bad move even though I'd love the option. Does that make any sense? I don't think that makes any sense. There's already gym tanks that are so close to not wearing a shirt.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Like, that should just be almost as good of an option. I'll leave you with this. When ESPN... I used to work out in that gym all the time because the first, you know, few years that I was living in the hotel, Skip Bayless and I stayed in the same hotel for three years. I would go to the ESPN gym and my schedule back then was pretty erratic. So you never quite knew. And I had a membership back to the place in Boston where I missed that pickup hoops lunch game so much. It's unbelievable how much I miss that game. So I like to wear like shooting tanks.
Starting point is 00:59:16 You know, I have an NC State one, Chris Corchiani. For whatever reason, some guy was the GM of some like semi-pro league and he he had all the stuff he was throwing out and he was like yeah chris corchiani was signed to the team for a while and he left his nc state practice jersey he's like do you want it i was like are you shitting me of course i want that and so i would work out in that and that's funny because now everybody's on the tank thing like the tank thing's totally cool now. ESPN would constantly get the people, not ESPN, ESPN. It wouldn't be like, Hey, Jimmy Pataro's on the phone. He wants to talk about your, your, uh, your gym attire. But I would get asked to put a shirt on at the ESPN gym.
Starting point is 00:59:58 And I did another thing there where there was like a vertical jump testing thing. And so you had to like take the Velcro piece and put it on the Velcro part of the wall. And I was just slamming into the wall, testing my vert. And, uh, the female trainer came running out. She hated me. She came running out. She's like, what are you doing? I was like, I'm testing my vert. Like, why is this here? If I'm not supposed to test my vert, why have it in the first place? Like, you know, it's right here. It has all the numbers and so yeah they uh they constantly were like hey you need to put a shirt on i think one time they made me put on like a gross lost and found thing uh yeah i i honestly felt like they were like hazing
Starting point is 01:00:37 me a little bit and then they took out all the benches too all the benches chris cotter was beside himself it's just like okay you guys did this like you put all these racks in it's a little bit more crossfit here but like there's no you can't just keep one old man bench in here it's not that kind of gym yeah right i felt like they were doing it to prove a point like oh it's not even functional you know okay all right yep cool you kept the incline but not not a flat like there was no actual flat area uh well they had some dumbbell ones over there okay for a guy who said he didn't want to talk about the workout thing that's literally all i did on this one so not the greatest life advice we'll make up for
Starting point is 01:01:14 later this week enjoy the week everyone thanks a lot Thank you. you

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