The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Chiefs 0-2, Tush Push Drama (Again), Joe Burrow's Injury, and the Dolphins' Mess With Dianna Russini. Plus, Should Miami Be Ranked No. 1?

Starting point is 00:00:00 Week two, let's do it. Big win by the Eagles in the Super Bowl rematch. Is that the best win of the entire week? Yes, probably. I don't know that there's a lot of debate. A lot of debate about the worst loss. Not that all of them are terrible losses, but just a few different things and storylines to pick from.

Starting point is 00:00:27 And I'm going to talk some college ball as well. Well, after we speak with Diana Rossini, who has more on the Dolphins situation, more on the giant situation, a quarterback in that loss and overtime to the Dallas Cowboys, but yet Russell Wilson, redemption time, week two from week one. We've got some stuff on the Niners and Mack Jones, the borough injury, how long that one could go for, and we also have some stuff on the Vikings, and one of the storylines from the summer that didn't go well with Vikings fans. and of course, life advice.

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Starting point is 00:01:45 Call 888-78-9-7777 or visit ccpg.org forward slash chat in Connecticut paid endorsement. Let's start off week two with the best win. match Philadelphia going to Kansas City and taking care of the chiefs. So the biggest problem for Kansas City, at least that was apparent in this game, is the four-man rush isn't working. You say the five-man rush wasn't exactly working. They had a blitz hurts on 64% of his dropbacks. I've seen some different numbers there, but it's all above 60%. The highest blitz percentage that Spagnolos used since he became the defensive coordinator in Kansas City in 2019. And it still felt like Hertz had all day to throw on some of the bigger downs. Even with all of that, not working,

Starting point is 00:02:34 Hertz still felt like he, like I said, had all day. He was only 15 to 22 for 101 yards, nine rushes for 15 yards. So they contained the Hertz part of this. The receivers, if you look at AJ and Devante's combined numbers, 80 yards receiving and then held up pretty well until that 28-yard completion on 3rd and 10, which kind of sealed the game. Devante just wins the ball. and then sets up the tush push to make a 2010 and that's kind of game and we'll get to the Kelsey mistake here in a second but uh look I still think Kansas City is a good football team I'm not going to start like even with their issues you know maybe they're not the clear favorites hey it's them and then everybody else in the AFC uh certainly not with them losing the Super Bowl last year so

Starting point is 00:03:18 there's not really moral victories when you're held to the standard that the chiefs are the standard that they would hold themselves to and be like hey at least we didn't get our asses kicked this time by the Eagles. But there were a lot of things in this game where once that 28-yard completion happened, because you're still wondering, you know, I think whenever you watch Mahomes, you're kind of wondering, is you going to be able to figure this out? And when Kelsey Bobbles the ball at the end zone, that possession alone, like, I still think the Chiefs might find a way to pull this out, even though I think we'd all collectively say we'd like the Eagles roster, one through 53 better than probably any other team in the NFL. That sets up the tush push on the Devante catch

Starting point is 00:03:54 and you know really good job i think by the television broadcast of showing you i felt like this is the most damning replay of the tush push yet they're like oh so four guys false start on that offensive line um and even watching it set up you're like how is who how many guys are off sides here offense and defense so you know they had a vote to ban it it was 22 to 10 in favor of it they needed to be 24 to 8 I feel like that replay alone when they vote on this because that was the vote in may of 25 of this year so they'll vote again next year that replay alone feels like it would be enough to get two more people to be like yeah enough of this because look it is boring but it's legal and it's unstoppable when Philadelphia does it and if I were an Eagles fan I would defend it to the death and when you're not an Eagles fan you just go like oh I guess I guess they're going to do this and even when you think you stop them hurts or so strong and in the push behind him. It's like, oh, no, you thought you stopped. No second wave coming. So again, that's not why they won. Certainly not why they won. Chiefs had 10 points. The Kansas City Chiefs had 10 points. And then you have the Mahomes miss on

Starting point is 00:05:10 Thornt, then he ends up hitting him later, but it's a two-possession game. You could get into the punt decision, the timeout decision. There was a lot of stuff in there I didn't necessarily like. So Kansas City's O-line, I still think there's questions, although great play by the rookie on that touchdown saving play after the Kelsey Bobble. Rice still suspended, worthy, injured. Again, I can't really get too dismissive of them. The Bobble in the end zone, Kelsey's had two bad plays right at the goal line, back-to-back weeks to start the season.

Starting point is 00:05:40 And, you know, the more you watch this Mahomes story develop, which I do think is always kind of like, you know, he's chasing one guy and Brady here, and it's important to remember. remember there were these long Brady gaps. I mean, he was still terrific, but like, oh, he went that long without winning a Super Bowl. It was almost like the second act or three acts for Brady, if you really want to get into it. But the Mahalms numbers from 18, 22, I mean, I expect that we'll see that version again at some point once he has better receivers and I figure out some of the old line stuff. Maybe it's spending less on TV, you know, just like the long term next 10 years,

Starting point is 00:06:20 which is really stupid to do after week two here because he's 30 years old. But I do think about it in that there are a lot of arguments to be made about, you know, you just look at the year-to-year stuff and the slow start they're getting too offensively here again. Yeah, there's numbers and charts that back any argument for the fact that he's declining. I just don't think he's a declining football player, even if the numbers show it. So then there's the oh and two-start thing that I despise. since 1990 teams that start O&2 make the playoffs 11.5% of the time. Last year we had Baltimore and the Rams do it.

Starting point is 00:06:55 Cincinnati, when they made it to the AFC championship game in Los to Kansas City, they went O&2. The O&2 number is weighted down by all the teams that suck for all of those decades. It's a lot like the running back career longevity number, where if you look at running backs, on average, their careers last 2.6 years. And we hear about it all the time. I think big running back is very powerful. in the lobbying world.

Starting point is 00:07:20 No one ever talks about the receivers lasting 2.8 years in their career. So the running back number gets weighted down by all the running backs that are all going to get cut. The guys that are drafted late, the guys that are undrafted, the guys that are drafted earlier, they're going to get cut. And then it turns into this like running back awareness momentum. Although I feel like that's worn off a bit. I don't know if those guys are still doing the Zoom meetings.

Starting point is 00:07:43 I'd love to know. But that 0 and 2 number is just weighted down by. all of these terrible teams. So it sounds kind of interesting when you're on TV on Monday, but I just don't really think it makes all that much sense. Kansas City also, by the way, 26th in the NFL right now, two weeks in on third down conversion. So I still think that's clearly the best win,

Starting point is 00:08:01 going to Kansas City and taking down a team that I still think is going to be part of the playoff conversation. Where's loss? We have a lot of options. You could say Broncos are Colts unless you think the Colts might be good. Broncos missed a 42-yarder that would have put him up 3126, but then Danny Dimes, you can't give him 315 right down the field. That sets up the game-winning field goal.

Starting point is 00:08:25 Daniel Jones now is sixth in the NFL and QVR. He's completing 71% of his passes. The Colts are ninth on third-down conversions of the team. So that can't be the worst loss because what if the Colts are sneaky good? I remember reading a preview that was basically like, yes, the quarterback situation is likely a mess and could be a carousel. Who knows what's going to happen? But it's actually a nice roster.

Starting point is 00:08:49 It's a talented roster. I just remember thinking, like, it's like the nicest way to say this team's done okay but has no chance whatsoever. And now I'm starting to wonder if Giants fans that demanded apologies about some of the criticisms of Daniel Jones being drafted as high as he was, are those Giants fans feeling better today that Jones has gotten up to the start? And maybe they were right all those years ago. Probably not.

Starting point is 00:09:13 We'll get to that game. is Miami's lost the worst loss. Tua started 17 and 19 in this game against the Pats at home. Then we had the punt return touchdown where the Pats tackling were terrible, immediately followed by a kick return for a touchdown by the Pats. Tua, next two possessions, throws a pick, was a bad pick, then he was sacked on fourth down where you just can't take that sack. So even though the numbers were there,

Starting point is 00:09:40 Tyreek was more involved in this game, I guess they had to have a player's only meeting. after week one. And whenever the dolphins are losing, Mike McDaniel looks like a guy who works part-time, not full-time, part-time at snarfs. So it just never really looks like,

Starting point is 00:09:54 whenever they lose now, it's, and this is a really nasty way to lose, and considering the money that they spent over the cap over these years that McDaniel has been there, they have not been afraid to spend. And look, it's an okay, Pat's team. Drake May, third down pass, incredible,

Starting point is 00:10:09 his run-in, avoiding a sack. Really nice. They've done a good job with him. him. It feels like to start the season, but I don't think the paths are necessarily good. So it's more about the back and forth drama of this game, Tua getting off to this incredibly efficient start and then having the two terrible decisions on those last couple of possessions, but I still don't think that's the worst loss. Jacksonville at Cincinnati, how about this one? Burrow, who will ask more about with Diana Rossini as she joins the show a little bit later,

Starting point is 00:10:36 burrow is going to be out maybe a few months with this toe injury. So he goes down. Browning comes in, But a lot of you remember, Browning in 23, stepped in seven starts, team went four and three. So you're still in it. He's going to throw some picks. It doesn't matter. I'm going to stay in this one. So he leads a 15-play, 92-yard drive to go up 31-27 with 18 seconds left. And on that possession, Jacksonville gives up a pass interference.

Starting point is 00:11:05 Well, they get called for a pass interference, giving up a first down on a fourth and five. and that's one of those deals where like burrows out even though we're on the road Trevor Lawrence is kind of putting up big numbers but obviously it's three touchdowns that first one he was late like it was a read across the back of the end zone and they showed the end zone angle from it you know like he actually almost missed him and he was wide open the picks weren't great and it's just the same with Lawrence like the QBR numbers now the worst he's had to start this season again it's only two games but it's the worst that he's had since his rookie season.

Starting point is 00:11:41 The completion percentage is disaster. We're in year five, and there's a lot of hope with the new offense and a new head coach that's just going to be quarterback and offense first, what Liam has done with Baker, and yet it really kind of looks the same, and then to lose against Cincinnati without Burrow. So that's on the board. Buffalo killing the Jets, Justin Fields fans, will always have week one. He was three and 11 for 27 yards.

Starting point is 00:12:09 is when you get knocked out in the beginning of the fourth quarter. I don't think it's that. You'd expect to lose the bills. I'm going to go Bears. They gave up 52 points to Detroit. There's an added storyline of Ben Johnson going up against his former team. 52 points is the fifth most the Bears have given up in franchise history. At times, their defensive backs look like Wisconsin going up against the skill players for Alabama.

Starting point is 00:12:31 Vegas still just doesn't like Detroit to win the NFC. They went from eighth to seventh best odds to win the NFC. They're behind Arizona. still. They jumped Washington, which I think if you look at Washington and you realize, okay, Giants, the first Thursday game of the season, you've got to go to Green Bay. Everybody loves Green Bay right now. I think getting off of Washington might be a little too soon, even if you're worried about some second season having taped knowing how to pitch Jaden Daniels. But look, I just can't fathom that Arizona has better NFC odds than Detroit does now. San Francisco is still

Starting point is 00:13:09 third on Fanduil to win the NFC, and they're missing two of their four, two of their five best players already. So Caleb, here's some positives in this one. His pressure rate went down and the bad throw percentage that we cited last week after the Monday nighter went up. Well, excuse me, I should say it the other way. The bad throw percentage went down. The pressure went down. So meaning it went up, meaning it got better. There's really not much else to say because they get their asses kicked. So I don't know that it's just a Caleb thing when you're giving up 52 points.

Starting point is 00:13:41 He did get benched, but it may have been just to protect him. How about some numbers? Daniel Jones went 16 to 25 for 265 yards yesterday against Denver's Blitz. That's the fourth most passing yards against the Blitz in a game

Starting point is 00:14:00 since 2016. Cleveland. Yes, they lost, but did they do anything that would resemble a blueprint game in their approach to slowing down Baltimore's rushing offense? I kept tracking this game because it didn't make a screen, but when it was 20 to 3, Baltimore still only had 1.8 yards per carry, and Derek Henry had six yards on six carries. So maybe the blueprint is Miles Garrett and having the best edge guy, the most disruptive force on the defensive side of the ball in the league. look they still lost 4117 so i don't know if this one would go down as a blueprint game but i couldn't believe those rushing numbers because when they played buffalo in that game and collinsworth is going over all the different options and the mesh point stuff and you think

Starting point is 00:14:47 it's henry then it's lamar after we set up henry and then when you go you know zone and you try to keep safeties back just to be able to tackle some of these guys in the open field and safe flowers are running all over the place it felt unfair it's like baltimore and granted they lose the game it's like is baltimore going to have an unfair offense and those things don't exist. I mean, we'd lost our minds there for a while being like, what are we going to do with these passing attacks? Like, what's going to happen here? And, you know, sports are great because there's always, there always seem to be some sort of counter for all this kind of stuff. I don't know if Cleveland's discovered the counter. I don't know if it's because of a division game.

Starting point is 00:15:21 They're just a little bit more used to them and all that kind of stuff. And look, they still get their ass kicked here. So we can't really call a blueprint game. I just couldn't believe those rushing totals. So number three here, we've got to talk about Russell Wilson. Because if I say after week one. He looks like he's going to be the first quarterback benched. And then I said it doesn't even seem all that insightful because it was the entire story out of New York the whole week. He gets off to an incredible first half. Their left tackle there, that guy, he had four penalties on that one position. And then he went to the sideline and just lost it, which I can kind of understand it's like, hey, you're making it worse. Like you are screwing up almost every snap.

Starting point is 00:16:04 and now like he punched that guy in the head and then couldn't believe he got the penalty then he had the two false starts then he had another roughing or unnecessary roughness uh penalty dables just like circling his finger on the sideline being like we're to get somebody else in there and then it's like and now you're going to get mad i mean i know you're mad at yourself but like how do you want us to handle this give you a hug so russell wilson ends up with 450 yards in this game and three touchdowns he hits the huge shot to robinson the huge shot to neighbors and he's just throwing these moon balls up there and credit to him for doing it. I start to wonder if the best way to attack sometimes is like if I have any kind of one-on-one, I mean, the neighbors one was against essentially two defensive backs, but I have no idea what the safety was doing. Like, what are you looking for underneath?

Starting point is 00:16:54 Like neighbors is going here. And neighbors, as an aside, I mean, if it's Chase or Jefferson coin toss, how many other people are you putting ahead of neighbors in that group? Like, is neighbors already the third best receiver in the NFL? And considering what that guy did last year as a rookie with what the Giants had at quarterback, I mean, sure, there's a lot of names that we can throw around and everything, but I don't, I mean, the real question, the real segment if you were teasing on a radio show

Starting point is 00:17:23 would be how close is Malik neighbors being to the best receiver in the NFL? I don't know that I can do that right now with the other two dudes in front of him, but I don't know that I'd have a problem putting him third. So the Wilson game you know he ends with the pick I mean Dallas is absurd with Aubrey this kicker. He hits a 64 yarder and they're

Starting point is 00:17:44 like totally fine lining up from that far out. They've changed the balls so you're already seeing these kickers just bomb it away two weeks into the season because of how they're handling the prep with the ball. And then they win in an overtime on the field goal. So I don't really care about the Wilson but like to hit those two bombs to go for 450 yards and then also be platooned technically because

Starting point is 00:18:08 they had the jackson dart package handoff that worked when he fell down that didn't work wilson looks furious wilson after he hits neighbors and everybody's congratulating him he almost had this look of like now everybody likes me here so that was kind of cool to see some personality out of him and he leads the NFL in passing yards right now but kind of a brutal loss and i know this sounds crazy when you give up that many points. But there's guys on the Giants defense that I do really like. A couple of sides here to finish off. If you're a team or you're a fan base that has a quarterback situation you already don't like. If you're already thinking about the 26th draft, I would tell you to not watch Saturday because so many of these guys are projected

Starting point is 00:18:48 first rounders have not looked great. So I don't know what the 26th draft is going to look like. Yes, it is really early. Speaking of quarterbacks, what's the worst? Let's rank these. what's the worst scenario to have if you're a QB to have the guy behind you be better than you the guy drafted behind you be better than you to have your backup have incredible PR or to blow up in a prime time game I don't know I would say having the guy drafted behind you be better than you is the worst prime time it's going to happen backup excellent PR is probably the second worst. The Ryan Rosillo podcast

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Starting point is 00:22:15 Okay, Monday after week two, let's talk with Diana Rossini, covers the NFL for the athletics. She has Scoop City up and. And, of course, check out every Saturday morning at 10 a.m. She drops a bunch of insider notes. So let's run through the league after another week of results. Burrow, the injury, Diana. This seems serious.

Starting point is 00:22:36 What's the latest? All right. So he's going to get surgery. It's turf toe, which I don't know. I feel like turf toe sounds so simple, right? It sounds like a paper cut to me. But it's not, right? And I had somebody explained it to me on Sunday night.

Starting point is 00:22:50 he's like essentially it's like the knee the big toe is the knee of the foot think of it that way all the same ligaments that you have in your knee you essentially have in your big toe and he tore a bunch of those ligaments so if it was in his knee it would obviously be pretty scary and freaky but it's just as difficult and you have to get that repaired which is why he chose to get the surgery we've seen in the past i think it was patrick mahomes had it once he played with it you know the guys will shoot it up before the game But this is to get this fixed, to get this right, because it's also really painful. Brock Purdy's dealing with it too, but on a lower level, it's just like on a lower scale. He's dealing with the torn ligament as well. But he doesn't have multiple ones like we're seeing with Joe Burrow. So we're talking minimum three months. So that puts us at December-ish, if all things go well. So obviously, like, here we are again.

Starting point is 00:23:47 Another story about Joe Burrow dealing with an injury. Yeah, you're right. Turf Toe needs to be rebranded as something because I've just, I've even had buddies over the years. We're like, oh, I can't believe that's that big. And it's just like nobody seems to understand what the injury is. Yeah. I mean, what weakens it? Is it the word turf or toe?

Starting point is 00:24:06 I think turf. Yeah. Yeah. I think it should just be, yeah, I think we need to come up with a new term for what that is. Like something that would gross people out. Like, oh, that's bad. I don't want that, you know? Whenever I hear Patelotend, I'm like, oh, that must be bad.

Starting point is 00:24:27 Or torn Achilles. Like, oh, because you can just feel it, right? Yeah, we need like a slashed foot or something, you know, like something net. Or like, you know, people like slash their spleen or get their spleen's cut up. And you hear that. Laceration. Laceration, yeah. You're like, oh.

Starting point is 00:24:45 So, yeah, let's try to think of this because these guys are tough. right like there's no one's questioning joe borough's toughness as he's hopping off and but get get a get a cart for him like i don't understand i don't know if it's true that the bangles are the only team that don't have one but get the guy's a bite get him something uh just watching him limp off was was that that was a harder watch for me than the actual injury on the field yeah i don't know if it's true about the cart thing i mean if you don't know then i'd I certainly wouldn't know, but I do know that, like, some players would go out of their way to be like, I'm not going to be in the car. Like, no matter what happens, like, I'm not getting in it. Yeah, that's fine, but I've never seen, like, I didn't see it. But you know what? You know when you do see the cart? When the owner's around, remember, like, door with the contract drama, like Mike Brown is just like in the car and Joe sitting passenger and they're talking about the deals.

Starting point is 00:25:42 So they have them. They're out there. Let's talk a little bit about Miami here because, you know, not, I mean, as soon as they lost week one to the Colts, which then can become a Colts question that I think is probably worthwhile here, considering the start that they've had, you know, it looks like this horrible loss because the Colts part of it maybe doesn't look as bad now. But, you know, I don't think that Pat's team is any good and they're at home and it looks like it's going to work out for them. It's back and forth game. and then they have the mistakes at the end. And then you read about the week one part of this, having a players-only meeting. And, you know, receivers are just selfish guys, especially the premier receivers.

Starting point is 00:26:25 And for Tyree Kill to have to like acknowledge all of these things. And I can understand that he's frustrated, but it's like, well, you wanted to get paid somewhere and you got paid. And now you're going to be a distraction for a team. Like the last thing this team needs is for somebody to ego out. So I don't know what the player's only meeting was like. I mean, it's just a bummer of a loss because he felt like, hey, you're going to feel good. You're going to beat New England. And then to lose in that fashion, to have the mistakes at the end of it, it just seems like a mess really quick.

Starting point is 00:26:56 Yeah, and for year four between with Tua and McDaniel, right? Like, you wanted to be better. And at times, we've seen it. I mean, what? It was just two years ago we saw when they hosted Denver and hung 70 on John Payton. Remember that? And it was like, oh, my gosh, they're reforming the offense and what it's going to look like. And he looked like a genius.

Starting point is 00:27:16 And it just, it looks rudderless now, right? They don't look motivated. They don't, there's tons of self-infliction. You know, and even during camp, I heard about some cultural issues. Usually that's just like a nice way to say there's players talking up and players not buying in to the program and not doing the things that they need to do. And look, you got to figure Jalen Ram. was maybe part of that. We've seen him before.

Starting point is 00:27:42 We've seen him do it, right? Like, he's pretty outspoken. And, you know, you see him now with the Steelers defense. That's not great either, but he's made some plays. So they obviously addressed some of that going, all right, we got to, we got to fix some of this and get rid of some of the issues. But the issues are still there. And Tua's part of it. But they need them.

Starting point is 00:28:00 One of the stories I worked on over the weekend was whether or not this team would trade Tyreek Hill. No, they're not going to do that because this offense needs. needs a weapon in what Tyreek Hill is. He's still good. I don't think he's one of the top three receivers playing football right now, but Tua relies on him. And it just seems these two defenses, I mean, Lou and Rumo had Tula in a blender, you know, just completely confused. New England obviously took a page from that, not saying that the Patriots defense is that stellar, but they at least look like they wanted it more too. And these are two teams that were trying to avoid an oh and two star. And so look, the dolphins are in a really bad position here.

Starting point is 00:28:44 They've got the bills on a short week, right? Then they've got this long essentially week before they play a Monday night football. So you got to wonder if there's going to be changes. And, you know, I have nothing to report at this moment of hot seat. But it doesn't, it doesn't look right. Like even McDaniel on the sidelines, he doesn't even look himself. He, his head was just in the call sheet, and usually he's up with the guys. It's just bad vibes. You know, I think it's that simple. They're the bad vibes team this year.

Starting point is 00:29:18 You had a note on the Colts from this summer, and, you know, I was kind of kidding around like the beginning of the year. It's like, how did you lose of those guys? And then they take care of Denver. So the Daniel Jones start. I mean, we've seen little stretches of him before, probably with the Giants Diana. We're like, okay, is it just going to take forever with this guy? And I do think there's some, clearly there's the physical gifts and then there's a throw

Starting point is 00:29:42 every now and then that I, you know, I think like the holding out hope. This is why we gave them the sort of weird team friendly extension on this kind of stuff because maybe it's all coming together. So I don't know that I'm going to fall for this all over again. But give me the idea of where they were at in the summer and maybe they're less surprised that they're two and oh than everybody else is. You're not buying into the Indiana Jones yet. I have a hard time with that nickname. No, no, I get it, right? Because we saw so much, we saw more bad than good, right?

Starting point is 00:30:11 We saw moments. And I remember talking to Sakewell and Berkeley last summer. And I was doing this interview at his house. We were just hanging out on the couch, catching up. And, you know, Daniel Jones is one of his best friends. So I'll preface that. But we talked about Daniel Jones for like 30 minutes in terms of just how good he is. And I was asking Sakewon a million questions about it.

Starting point is 00:30:32 Like, why is he, why do you think he's so good? Like, Seiguan was talking to me about him the way you would think he'd be talking about Jalen. And this was the summer before he played with Jalen, but he's like, I'm telling you, he can play. He just, we had no weapons, we had no protection. You know, obviously there was a little bit of play-calling situation, mess, disaster there in New York. The fresh start for him and even Daniel Jones' time with Kevin O'Connell in Minnesota there, Minnesota wanted to keep him, right? So they had Sam Darnold, they had Daniel Jones, and of course, J. McCarthy coming off this injury.

Starting point is 00:31:04 And Daniel Jones wanted the Vikings to basically say, you have a fair shot to win this job. And they couldn't do that because they're all in on JJ. And so Jones and his camp is like, all right, we got a better shot of winning this job in Indy. Let's go there. And so that's where they wound up going and they won the job with ease. I know this summer there was a narrative out there of like, oh, this is neck and neck. You know, that was not the case.

Starting point is 00:31:28 Like anyone I talked to there was like, dude, Daniel Jones is playing so well. And look, we, we determine great quarterbacks by so many of those, like, fabulous off-scheduled plays, right? Those are what the good guys do. But Daniel Jones is just throwing the on-schedule stuff. And sometimes that's all you need. And I think that's what he's doing well. And back to what Seguan said, look at the way the Colts team is built, right?

Starting point is 00:31:54 Let's start with their coach. Great play caller. Hands down, right? Everyone in the league agrees with that. I think we've been a little in the gray about it because it hasn't been great with Anthony Richardson and Joe Flacko, and you're like, what is this? But you look back to who Shane Seichen has worked with, including Jalen Hertz, he's had success. So you give him a quarterback that can at least run what he's looking for and then

Starting point is 00:32:15 you surround him with the running back who's like Sequin, right, and Jonathan Taylor when he's healthy, with Tyler Warren, a tight end who's, I mean, he's a freaking stud, a decent O line, despite the fact that two of those guys are over in Minnesota now. And a solid defense, what Lou Aniromo calling it. I mean, you talk about a roster, or Luz never had. Like, this is the best defense Luz ever had in terms of talent, I believe, maybe outside of that Super Bowl team

Starting point is 00:32:38 or the team that played in the Super Bowl. So I just think he's set up for success. No turnovers. They haven't even punted, you know? So I'm with you. It's early. It's that time of year. We love to get excited about teams

Starting point is 00:32:52 that may not pan out. But for, you know, the Colts here, losing their owner and coming out like this, I didn't see this coming. let's go back to kind of my headline of it because i just didn't want to go eagles eagles to start both segments of the pod here but you know in a day where hertz doesn't have to light it up the defense that at times against dallas you know dallas has some of these offensive

Starting point is 00:33:15 numbers like okay i mean i think they're the number one team on third downs right now um they've they've put up points in back-to-back weeks but there's so many names on this eagles defense that i like and it didn't feel like they really made a huge statement until later in that week one game against Dallas. And they basically hold this chief's team to 10 points until the late touchdown up to scores. So those are always like, I almost wish those counted for like four points or something. But again, that's my own issue.

Starting point is 00:33:44 This Eagles team, we've all talked about being the best. Is there anything about them two weeks in that surprised you? Is there anything that you weren't thinking about in August that you've seen two weeks in? Well, I always count the Super Bowl hangover as real because, as our friend Chris Long has told us, like, it's real. It's, it's the offseason. It's the party. It's the enjoyment. I wasn't sure what they would be after this. And a change of coordinator, just seeing what Petullo is doing now and seeing him get warmed up. He's obviously not comfortable. I think they're still trying to sort out their identity here. But I was

Starting point is 00:34:22 talking to someone close to Geelan Hertz recently. And I was just asking about Geelin, because I'm still trying to understand him. I've had tons of conversations. with him over the years. But he's just so mysterious to me. Like, I just, he's hard to describe. And I've asked his teammates to, like, explain him. Like, what, like, how can I get to know him more? Um, just to do my, my job better. And he is really focused and really different. And this person I was talking to who's tight with him was like, the difference with Jalen now is he's done it. He's lost it and he's won it. And in terms of his like mental state, he's, he's kind of fearless. now. He's not afraid anymore. And it makes all the sense in the world. But I do think losing

Starting point is 00:35:06 helps in that. And he feels like now he's figured out how to crawl out of that and obviously win the big one. So just seeing, even just did you see that back and forth with Chris Jones and him after the game? You know, Chris was like giving him shit of like, oh, you only had 100 yards. And he's like, yeah, we won the game. And that to me is just a microcosma who Jalen Hertz is. He's just trying to go out there and win. And so to me, just the fact that they don't, they now look like the team that Kansas City once was, right, where they figure out ways to win. It's not perfect yet. It's two games at. You know, they don't look like the team that we saw in the Super Bowl in New Orleans, but you can see that they will just figure out ways, whether it's on defense or whether it's

Starting point is 00:35:48 offense, Fangio's going to come up with something. And they're going to win. And I think to me, that surprises me that they're coming out this hot. Do you think that the Kelsey look of a suit with essentially dress shorts looks worse when you bobble potential going ahead touchdown? Because when they do the fashion show tunnel thing, I always kind of go back to being like, what was the guy wearing? And it just never. Me too.

Starting point is 00:36:19 Someone on the Giants yesterday had a leather vest on, like just a leather vest. That I could get with. That I actually think is cool. even if you didn't play well. Yeah, but you know what's, you know what? It's always so fun to watch that. It's not even, it's not even them walking in. It's them walking through the metal detectors, you know,

Starting point is 00:36:39 and it's just like, it just doesn't, it doesn't fit, you know? It's like, you look amazing. You're probably wearing a $25,000 vest, you know, coming through and you're cool from head to toe, but you don't look cool, like walking next to like two plastic picnic tables and a crappy metal detector, you know, at the star or at MetLife Stadium, wherever they were. But yeah, I think it's tough when you're making those gestures too during the game

Starting point is 00:37:07 and you're obviously not the same. And look, I actually think he looks a little bit better in some regards physically on the field than he did last year. But it's obvious that this Chief's team is not the same. Like to me, I have concerns for Kansas City way more than I have concerns about Philly. The Philly's closer to being what Philly's going to be. I think this is the year where we can't say, like we always say, oh, Kansas City, they've got Patrick, they've got Andy, they've got Spags, they'll turn this around, they'll be fine. I just, they don't have that same magic.

Starting point is 00:37:41 It's too much Mahomes trying to do it himself. And without these receivers, and look, I know health is a problem. And, you know, we'll see when Rishi Rice gets back in there and Xavier Worthy's expected to be back soon. And we'll see how it changes. But I just think for me that this is a new world. This is not the same old chiefs. I want to talk about the tush push a little bit because I mentioned in the open how it was 22 to 10 in favor of banning it. They needed 24 to 8.

Starting point is 00:38:12 I thought the replays were pretty damning for it yesterday. And I'm sure when they put this vote together in the owner's meetings, they have all sorts of clips. you know, the lobbying that goes on, like, how many votes do we have? Do we have the NFC North? Oh, the NFC North guys are, or, again, you know, I'm just kind of making that part of it up. But I wonder if some closer inspection of, I mean, that specific replay was really damning. Yeah. Yeah. Every year it heats up. And that thing was close to getting banned. It was, as you just laid out. And people obviously changed their vote. because of Jeffrey Lurie and Jason Kelsey's passionate, passionate speech.

Starting point is 00:38:57 I talked to a bunch of different owners and people that were in the meeting afterwards, even during, and people were just blown away. Like, Jason Kelsey's crying, people had goosebumps, you know. It's like, I think there were some. Okay, but can you understand how crazy that is? It's ridiculous. They are good for Kelsey. But if I were an owner on the fence, if somebody started crying that was benefiting,

Starting point is 00:39:21 from it and the owner that's benefiting from the play, I'd be like, I'm definitely voting to ban this. Correct. If I think it's the right thing. Yeah, like they're just, they were a victim of the moment, right? Is that the saying of just, you're just kind of caught up in it rather than going,

Starting point is 00:39:37 wait, we keep losing to them or they're the reason why we can't get back. Let's get rid of this. Remember Jeffrey Lurie even described to the owners what a Super Bowl was? and he called it like a little, like a young boy's wet dream, which, by the way, one of the hardest things for me to report that day when someone texted me that during the meeting was like, Jeffrey Lurie just said this. And I thought the person like didn't mean a text, like it's an inappropriate thing to text.

Starting point is 00:40:08 So I'm like a wet, like as in what I think that means. And it's like, yes. I'm like, how do I tweet that? Like do I, how am I able to write that? I have no follow-ups. yeah no it's fair um i i i actually held off not that i didn't trust the person the person's wonderful uh i was like i just feel like i got to talk to philly about this this just seems like something they don't want out there you know and philly's like they he said it like you got to

Starting point is 00:40:36 write it you know so uh i try to bury it in my story because it just it felt a little a little strange but look i mocked the wet dream comment but guess guess what's still here the tush push yep uh I yeah look I mean Kelsey's a really lovable guy he's awesome everybody who spends time with him likes him all right what would you do if you just said right like I thought about this before not that we're not that I want to come on here with go hot takey with you but I was thinking about this earlier like what if Ryan and I just were like you know what we're just kind of over it like we're over him he's not good anymore the tailor hiding behind the thing like are we make that no like we should never say it like are we not a lot of criticize it i never know

Starting point is 00:41:22 what to do here i can understand people not liking it but i i think it's it's just kind of lame like we were talking about this i was with some friends yesterday and then a course it comes up right because then it's like you go from the chiefs eagles game to an ad where another kelsey's in it and it's like look the manning brothers walk so the kelseys could run so let's true. I don't know that I could ever really get that mad about anybody optimizing their opportunities. Yeah. And I have no opinion on Taylor Swift other than when I hear a song of hers, come on. More often than not, I'm like, oh, that's pretty good. I'm like, I kind of get why she's this popular. Like, she's incredibly like, that was a great way to do that or whatever. Like, I'm never going to put it on.

Starting point is 00:42:09 I'm never going to be in the car putting it on. Certainly not going to work out to it. There'd probably never be a time where I would come home late and be like, you know what, let's pop on. Taylor Swift and end this night, right? But maybe I've just come to a place where, like, what are they doing? They're not really doing anything wrong. So you're going to get on their case. And the other thing, too, is that there's so many people that I know that know both guys that love both guys to death, that there's people that I'm, you know, friendly with that I'm like, okay, well, if they like these two guys this much and sure, like they'd probably be the first to admit that, yeah, to see me have a catch or see this other guy. And then it's like,

Starting point is 00:42:46 a couple ads and then a promo right and all these other things that it's annoying yeah sure like the oversatuation point like nobody's famous longer and then people go you know i didn't like them in the beginning but now that they're everywhere i'm starting to like them more and more it's just a natural human instinct for most people to just go i'm so sick of these dudes so i wouldn't be upset with anybody saying that i'm sick of them but i would never i don't know that i'd ever like go oh i'm so over it and turn it into a monologue on like a wednesday podcast because it would just feel at least at this stage of my life, incredibly unfair. Yeah, I agree with you.

Starting point is 00:43:18 We vacation in the summer in Seattle City where Jason and his family vacation. And I mean, everyone there from Philly loves the gossip about, oh, I saw Kylie there, oh, I saw Jason there. But everyone's interactions are always like, they're awesome. Like, you don't keep, like, I mean, I'm talking everyone. Like, random waiters, bartenders,

Starting point is 00:43:34 people that work at the bike rental place. Like, everyone talks about how wonderful and kind they are. And so you can't, you have to just look at it and go, well, those are people that played all of this really well and smart. And if they happen to be also tremendous souls in the meantime, then, you know, more power to them. I just think, remember when Baker Mayfield was doing so many when he was in Cleveland and it was like, it was like uncomfortable, right?

Starting point is 00:44:02 Like the Browns wouldn't have scored a touchdown like three games. And like it would be some state whatever. I forgot what big insurance company had at the time. Well, you had State Farm and he was great in him. But it is, this is. He's still good. I saw one the other day. I'm like, God, he's such a good actor.

Starting point is 00:44:16 Like, he's so good. Like, I just like this is a very, like, predictable thing. Like, I remember when RG3 comes onto the scene and he was in a ton of ads. And then you, you don't play as well. And it's like, well, how come this guy's in this many ads? Well, tell me if you agree with this. I had a coach. It just seems unfair to the player, but go ahead.

Starting point is 00:44:38 Do you agree with this sentiment? I had someone say this and he was like, just always watch those. rookie quarterbacks of who does the most business, we'll call it, those are usually the ones that don't actually believe they'll last that long deep inside their heart. Like, they're out there going, got to make as much money as possible because I don't know how long this is going to last. And then you start, like, ripping through it. Like, you don't see Jaden anywhere, right? Like, and I think his is really purpose. Like, I don't see a lot of Jaden Daniels commercials. Do you? Do you see yeah, I mean, off the top of my head, I don't. I know that.

Starting point is 00:45:14 his mom is like on it you know so i don't know if everything has to go through her or what i i don't even know if that would be fair like first of all it would be a really hard thing to track like would you just go through every every guy in his rookie contract and you would i mean we have to do local and national ads i mean we've turned this into a thing that i don't even know that i can come up with a definitive answer but it's whenever it's it's a very result playing phenomenon that happens is the guy that does a ton of ads that doesn't play well, they end up blaming his ads. And it's like, well, maybe it's like, what about all the other guys that didn't do any ads and didn't play well either? Like what happened there? You normally has way more to do with the player

Starting point is 00:45:57 than all these other things that we just add on to the pile. Yeah. I think, I think the lesson is just do them when you're close to being done, right? Like the Mannings. And then no one cares because they're just like, oh yeah, I like to. And then I almost think you reinvent yourself where you become even, like, Eli's so likable now. I live in the New York area. No one liked Eli. Now ever loves Eli, you know, like all like the dorky, quirky, weird stuff that he used to do as a quarterback is now embraced and cute. So maybe that's what it is.

Starting point is 00:46:27 You just got to pick the right time and it looks like the Kelsey Boys, um, grand slam, man. Yeah, I think we handled that. I think we handled that well. It sounded like you really wanted to go in on Taylor Swift. And so I was going to save you from that. No, no, no, I didn't. I didn't, I, like, Darlington was with her the other night and he, like, texted me. It was like, dude, she's incredible.

Starting point is 00:46:46 Like, she's, like, one of the greatest people I've ever been around. I'm like, that's awesome. Like, you don't hear that consistently. And all you hear about Taylor Swift is just how amazing she is. Some people listening to this may be surprised, but Darlington sending a text, Hey, I'm with Taylor Swift is maybe one of the least surprising things in the Darlington resume. Dude, he's so not like that, actually. He is around a lot of powerful people.

Starting point is 00:47:09 That's what I mean. I usually, no, oh, yeah. That's what I mean. I'm not talking about bragging about it. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like, I'm actually impressed about how little he will tell me about situation season until later, or if it comes up naturally or his wife offers it up.

Starting point is 00:47:26 Like, I'm like, wait, you were on a private jet with the owner of whatever. Like, why? It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, I saw him at the grocery store and, you know, we just start. And the thing is he doesn't even talk football with anybody. That's always my favorite, like, quality about him. Like, even I, as one of my, like, my real. good friends. I don't think I've ever talked about football with Jeff. He's just

Starting point is 00:47:44 that's just not his trend as he's one of the lead NFL reporters for ESPN. Like he's just great at all topics. Let's touch on a couple more things here. Speaking of New York and New York fans not like an Eli when he was there,

Starting point is 00:48:01 how do you think they feel about Russ today and what is going on with the Jackson Dart package? Gosh, I love it. Well, first of all, it's not like a It's not a Jackson DART package where you're seeing DART on the field at the same time as Ross like we saw with like Justin Fields, remember. It's more, they run the same offense essentially and they're just trying to use him. I think to just give him the, I think it's like twofold.

Starting point is 00:48:26 It's to give him the experience and to get him out there, but also to give the offense a little something. Brian Dable is doing everything he possibly can to win these games, knowing that the sea is warm. All right. So look, 500 yards of offense. The last time the Giants did that was, I think Pat Shermer was the head coach, right? So it's been a long time since we saw that. So Russell, I think the Giants are waking up going, all right, Russell Wilson is not perfect. But that was pretty damn good.

Starting point is 00:48:54 They came to play. The Jackson Dart thing is it's one of those break glass situations where they, I think they want to break the glass because I know Brian Dable loves them. He's got the moxie. He's got the aura about him. we saw a little bit in the preseason but he's still a rookie um dable lives in my town and i ran into him at dairy queen with my two sons who by the way i said boys you know they're three and two i said this is this is coached table he coaches the giants and my son mike he goes go eagles because he thinks every team is the ego he doesn't understand so i was like no no no uh anyway

Starting point is 00:49:37 So I quickly just talked to Dable about all this. And we just had a good smart conversation about quarterbacks and just trying to be patient, something that I know Minnesota wants right now with J.J. McCarthy. Like, it doesn't matter how good they are. You just, you want them to get that experience, but you don't want to mess them up. You don't want to put them in too soon. And you certainly in New York do not want to put them out there without Andrew Thomas out there. I'm hoping Andrew Thomas is going to be getting back this week.

Starting point is 00:50:02 He was trending closer in this Dallas game. So we'll see if he'll be ready to go against the chiefs. They've got to rev him up, right? So he's coming off this injury. But you just look at the protection here. And I think that's where they want to get better. I mean, did you see his backup? He had four penalties.

Starting point is 00:50:19 It was brutal. Brutal to watch that. So it makes sense. Russell's got the experience. I think Russell's going to obviously stick as the starting quarterback. But I just think in terms of personality, Jackson Dart from what I can tell him from even just talking to people. He's like a really good match for table. Daible's firing and crazy.

Starting point is 00:50:37 and I think Darts got a little bit of that in him, which is why they liked him coming out. So it's a matter of time. But this is a team that's oh and two. And, you know, it's funny. It didn't really feel it. It doesn't feel like they are because there has been this feeling of excitement about them,

Starting point is 00:50:52 knowing that Jackson could be decent. But obviously, Dak Prescott just, I mean, he showed up yesterday too. He's so tough in the pocket. And I like forgot about that. When I was watching Dak, I know that sounds weird, but I'm like, oh, yeah. I forgot he can make plays.

Starting point is 00:51:06 I forgot he can stand tall in there. But, yeah, credit to them. So we'll see what happens with New York when they face the chief suit. I mean, two desperate teams, huh? Yeah, look, the JJ thing that you just touched on there, though, is good. I mean, the fourth quarter is really good against Chicago. He was terrible last night against Atlanta. Atlanta trying anything to – I thought there was some really good stuff from Ulbrook there

Starting point is 00:51:29 who had been with the Jets, talking about his stubbornness with the Jets and like, hey, my four-man rush philosophy. And then it's like, hey, guess what, it doesn't work? And you can't just stick with it the whole time, you know, which is its own thing because you're probably sitting there if you're like on that jet staff going like, yeah, we were talking about that all year long. And like it doesn't, it doesn't work. But they load up two first rounders to try to get some more edge pressure with an Atlanta team

Starting point is 00:51:52 that he mentioned like on paper right now with this front four. Like we don't necessarily have one of those top five game records, which I think everyone would agree with. So I like that storytelling part of the broadcast last night. And so, you know, look, JJ and his second start wasn't good. I mean, who knows? It doesn't really mean a ton to me because I don't know what it'll look like by the time the end of the year is when this guy has far more experience. But there is something to be said of like, you took a lot of heat from talking about Minnesota, maybe sending some feelers out there of like even though we're moving on from Darnold because maybe they just didn't want to pay him.

Starting point is 00:52:28 The last impression that Darnold left in Minnesota was not a good one. They've spent the pick on JJ, but he's been hurt. He hasn't played in the year. and like every other part of this team seems ready to go. And so I don't know, you know, Jefferson, I expect him to look frustrated on the sideline yesterday when they can't move the football. I don't know if that's alarming.

Starting point is 00:52:45 I don't know if it's just a receiver being a receiver, but that's okay because I think he deserves a benefit of the doubt and has like enough equity with what he's been able to produce and for the most part's been an awesome team in, I think. So the JJ part of it is something again, like you caught some shit for it because everything that I think you were saying made sense because it's like, would it make more sense actually just to go into 25 with another development year for McCarthy?

Starting point is 00:53:09 But this is who they have right now and who knows what it's going to look like. Yeah, and they've got the right head coach for this, right? And I think that's probably how the organization looked at it. If Kevin O'Connell can develop and get all these different backup quarterbacks to play at a decent level and bring them back to life, then let's invest in the young rookie, essentially, and coach him up and get him ready and just kind of take the chance that it's not going to be great and keep the offense simple. So, you know, I spent some time in Minnesota this summer and it was it reeked of we need to be patient. And I was there on a day where JJ was fantastic. He was tearing up

Starting point is 00:53:49 the Patriots defense. And he has that moxie too. And we saw it. Seven bad quarters, one really good one. if I told the Minnesota staff, let's say, that, you know, JJ's going to not be great in September, but he may win you a game to, you know, on Monday night football. I bet you they'd go, yeah, I believe that. I believe that it won't be great. And that's not because they don't have confidence in them. They have, they're all in.

Starting point is 00:54:17 I mean, if you read the articles and saw every single quote, it is quite obvious the Minnesota Viking staff is hitching their wagon to J.J. McCarthy. this is going to work. And they believe in them and they were propping him up in such a positive way that you're supposed to when a quarterback is coming off a significant injury and probably needs to know he's the guy. After Sam Donald, people like him on that team. You know, this, yes, Donald's last appearance was God awful. But remember, they won 14 games with him. Remember in the locker room when they were jumping around him? It was awesome. It was one of like the highlights of the year last year of the team being, you know, just kind of

Starting point is 00:54:55 coming together around Sam Donald, one of the good stories. But I think a lot of this was purpose to just help him know he's the guy. Let's get rid of Daniel Jones. Let's get rid of Sam Donald. We're all in on you. And it's just got to take time despite the fact that the roster is built. So when there was some reporting in the offseason about maybe some conversations that they had with Aaron Rogers, I didn't disagree with Minnesota.

Starting point is 00:55:21 I knew what they were doing. It makes sense. It's like, let's just maybe give him a little bit more time. But they chose to not go in that direction. So, you know, you see Aaron Rogers now, and Aaron looks 41, right? I think we can agree. But would it be better in Minnesota? I don't know.

Starting point is 00:55:39 I can tell you my confidence is in O'Connell and what he can do in that whole coaching staff with the quarterbacks. So I think JJ's just going to get better. I've no doubt, like I think he's the guy. I just think he needs time. And it's only September, man. Okay, good transition to the last one then, because watching what Shanahan does with basically any quarterback, going back to like Mullins, you can go Bethard, you like, Mac Jones steps in. And yeah, the Saints are still searching for this win. And I actually feel a little bad for like Spencer Rattler because I think he's out there just competing.

Starting point is 00:56:14 I know. And you're like, you know, let's just get this guy a win here. You know, I don't know if he's going to be a 10 year starter. it looks like he may be around the league for a while mac jones you know i thought was pretty overrated in the beginning with new england there was nothing more maddening when it's like you know when brady started out he was kind of just like a system game manager and it's like look at it's like so because mac was like not super impressive in a passing league as opposed to when manning or excuse me manning when brady entered the league um like okay so he's going to be like brady

Starting point is 00:56:45 and it gets worse and worse it seems like mac in the building isn't super popular um But as a first round pick, you know you're going to get another chance. And sometimes with first round picks, it's like, all right, I'm curious, like, seeing which, which franchise goes after the guy that flames out somewhere else. Because Matt could also go, I had Matt Patricia Collin plays. I had no receivers. Like, are you guys kidding me? So there's a very pro-Mac Jones argument to protect him, to defend him. I personally just didn't really think he was that good.

Starting point is 00:57:13 So he's at Jacksonville. So they grab immediately. So does that mean, you know, anything? I don't know. But then when Shanahan gets him, you're like, oh, wait, does Shanahan actually like him? Although at the same time, too, when I was watching Tua, I think it was after the interception, he was sitting there with a coach and they were talking and Zach Wilson is sitting on the bench right next to him. And I was just, I got lost and thought.

Starting point is 00:57:36 Yeah. No, because I'm wondering, is Zach Wilson going, I would have made that play? Or is he going, please don't like just stay healthy so I can just. hang out Miami all year and maybe I can be like this journeyman backup if I never have to play no one's ever going to see because I mean the Zach stuff wasn't very good so anyway we've got Mac in San Francisco and I am probably so stubborn about the Niners because of Shanahan because I feel like they'll figure it out they're already down to again their most important guy with Purdy maybe second most important yeah actually I'd say second most important guy maybe left tackle

Starting point is 00:58:16 in Kittle on offense, and, you know, look, they beat the Saints, but some of the Mack stuff looked good. So maybe there's just a default that we have to go to that no matter who's playing quarterback for Shanahan, he's just going to look a little bit better than you'd expect him to be somewhere else. But I don't know if it's enough for me to like hold out hope that the Niners are going to win a bunch of games if the Purdy absence is extended. Yeah. All right, let me rip through a couple things. First, Zach Wilson, he got married this summer to this blonde girl from Jersey, who's like a 15 out of 10. So yeah, he's just sitting there.

Starting point is 00:58:49 I just want to go home. They got married in New York, the whole thing. He was in Denver, and when I was at camp, even this past summer, talking to Davis Webb, the quarterback coach, we were talking about Zach Wilson. Apparently, like, he was really good in Denver. So who knows what Zach Wilson's going to be. Maybe he can be a resurrection project somewhere

Starting point is 00:59:07 if he gets an opportunity or if Tua gets hurt. You know, who knows? It's probably on the table, right? Spencer Rattler, you mentioned. Now the person that you meet, person so different than when he well actually kind of makes sense he's i met him at the super bowl great guy cool like electric life of the party just really liked him didn't expect that same thing with mac jones no idea of that kind of personality funny as hell just super dry serious but like you're like

Starting point is 00:59:32 are you joking and he's like joking so um all that being said uh mac jones in san francisco now and if you remember when they traded for they traded up in that 2021 draft that covid year they traded up for Mac Jones. Like that was who they were going for. That's not a rumor. That's like, that is fact. It was the COVID year and remember everything was over Zoom and it was weird. I'm not making an excuse.

Starting point is 00:59:58 But it's really hard as you know, because you do this all time with people over screens to really get people and get a feel. And I know from talking to people that Shanahan and Mac really hit it off. Not saying that Kyle was banging the drum like, he's the guy, he's the guy. In the end, they obviously chose to go with Trey collectively. Nothing happens in San Francisco without Kyle Shanahan being part of it, right? Like, I think there was some scuttlebut that, oh, it was John Lynch's pick. Of course, John Lynch is great, but we know that Kyle Shanahan is the scientist.

Starting point is 01:00:32 He's the genius there. So now he has, now he has that chance. Now he, this is his opportunity. So from what I was told, like, it was already good, even from the offseason and them kind coming together. Do I think Mac Jones is going to replace Brock Purdy? No, obviously. They just paid a gazillion dollars. But if Brock is going to be out another week, which from what I understand, that's going to be the case. I think this is a pretty good plug and play person for now. It makes sense. And you talk about Kevin O'Connell being one of the best quarterback coaches

Starting point is 01:01:04 in football. You can't talk about that without bringing up McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan. They just know how to do it, which is why when you see other parts of their, we'll call it coaching tree, which is funny to even think about. But, like, that's why on the whole Zach Taylor thing right now in Cincinnati. Like, go win games, man. Like, I know Jake Browning may not be a superstar, but you've got weapons galore around you, just the way San Francisco does, right? With Kiddle and we'll see what happens with Joan Jennings and if he continues to get better.

Starting point is 01:01:33 And they can actually probably use a little bit more help in San Francisco. But these are the coaches that are supposed to be the quarterback guys that can get these offenses functioning, whether they got Joe Burrow or not. So in San Francisco, I think they're always going to have that advantage. Always. I mean, look what they did with Jimmy Garoppolo. You know, I don't think we appreciate it because Jimmy was talented. But as long as Jimmy could run what Kyle wanted, he was going to have success.

Starting point is 01:02:01 And I just think the same type of quarterbacks that can process really well, which is exactly what Mack Jones is. He's really smart. They're going to have success. So my concern for San Francisco isn't on the quarter. back. My concern for San Francisco is just the injury thing. It's just how many times do we do this every year? It's like this one and this one and this one. So hopefully the injury bug is done with them after September. Yeah. And it's also a kind of a defensive reset with some of the guys that moved on from. You go back and look at the draft five picks, the first four rounds. They spent it all

Starting point is 01:02:33 on the defensive side of the football. So there's a couple of younger names that are guys I really liked on Saturdays and we'll see if they start showing up more throughout the season. That is Diana Rossini. She is terrific. Check out her podcast, Scoop City, and also her updates on the athletic, including every Saturday morning, a 10 a.m. drop Eastern time for all of her insider stuff to get you ready for Sundays. Thank you. Thanks, guys. I want to talk college ball. I'm going to start with the AP poll. Not the end of the world, not the biggest deal. I'm not even sure if I love my first few paragraphs here. I'll probably do some sort of college football playoff thing with the top 12 and the first two out. It just doesn't make a ton of sense right now. I'd be giving too much the benefit of the doubt,

Starting point is 01:03:16 but again, it's impossible to not do any of that stuff. So I'll probably do it in another week, yay. And not be passionate about it, though. So I'm just telling you, don't get mad because I'm not going to be passionate about it, even if I do it. Maybe I'll wait to week six. Who knows? All right. So the AP today, Ohio State, one, Penn State, LSU, Miami, 4, Georgia 5, Oregon dips down to 6, Florida State, Texas, Illinois. How about Illinois? A&M moves up to 10 with their win in South Bend. So do we care? LSU being number three behind Penn State doesn't sit great with me.

Starting point is 01:03:54 You could argue LSU now beating Clemson means, okay, but what's Clemson? Well, Georgia Tech's now 18th of the polls. Brett Kee, their head coach, all he does is win as an underdog. Outright wins the most in college football. Yeah, I mean, it would have to be the power four. it would have to be everything. He's got 12 wins as a dog, the record against ranked teams in his conference. I mean, Georgia Tech, when Haynes King is healthy, they're a really good football team.

Starting point is 01:04:23 And they got after that bad start against Colorado, so maybe people just weren't on it. You know, look, it's the Miami game last year. It's the Georgia thriller at the end of the season. So this isn't new. But then again, you're looking at Clemson, who goes from 12th to unranked in the AP after losing two of the first. three games and the game against Troy where they look terrible in the first half. So this isn't just an LSU game. It isn't just a Troy weird game delay. I mean, they straight up lost in Georgia attack. I do think it's going to be interesting too, looking at the mock draft from 25 for 26 where

Starting point is 01:04:59 Clemson has three of the top six, I think on ESPN.com, three of the top 10 players, basically consensus in every single mock draft that I saw. Maybe I got to look at the all 22. I just don't see the edge guys. I see those other linebackers, but the big names, I just don't see them a ton in these games. And then you have Clubnik where, I mean, is it just that he's, like, he was too good last year from thinking, oh, yeah, he's just not that good. I mean, we've had players look really good one season of quarterback and then completely fall off. It's not entirely new. It's just hard to think how important Clubnik was. I know Antonio Williams isn't there, but Westco's a, he's an awesome receiver. So it's not.

Starting point is 01:05:41 like he doesn't have something. And I just, for the teams that consistently are recruiting in the top 10 every single year, I don't usually have a ton of sympathy if you're missing like one of your receivers or one of your offensive linemen. But Georgia Tech just straight up beat them. And they just keep beating teams that are favored over them. So if you looked at LSU and said, well, they have to be three now because we don't like Clemson and because we think Florida stinks, because they're one and two after the loss of LSU were lagway through five picks and all of them were bad. As bad as all of those five were, none were as bad as Nussmeyer's one pick where they're up

Starting point is 01:06:15 2010 in the fourth quarter and he throws it back across his body, into the middle of the field, into traffic, Brian Kelly, near aneurysm, which was predicted. I guess you just have to walk away. You go, yes, I'm aware. That was a horrible pick. But that's in the scattering report for Nussmeyer and something they've talked about, win the down, not the game. Whatever, LSU wins the game.

Starting point is 01:06:36 But I can see voters looking to me like, well, we don't like Clemsman. anymore now we don't even like Florida anymore um if you are doing that though it's fair to say well how much do you like Texas right now because then this is why I am proud of the podcast at times because when he goes up against san Jose state in week two and he has four touchdowns in five minutes and you're box scoring it and you're not watching the game which i'm not expecting everybody to watch that game there is a lot of like hey figured it out he was terrible against utip he went 10 straight pass attempts, 10 straight incompletions, gut-bood. I mean, they were up 14-3 against U-TEP. I mean, U-TEP's not terrible. They lost the Utah State. Week one, Utah State's actually

Starting point is 01:07:22 okay, you know, scored some points against A&M. But still, it's Texas and their U-TEP. And so the arch story, the question marks around it continue. So, yeah, look, if you're knocking LSU there a bit, you could probably apply the same thing to Ohio State, but ultimately I've already spent too much time on this. Let's talk about Georgia winning in Tennessee because it was 217. You're looking at Joey Aguilar and Brazel, who's just a stud and receiver for Tennessee. They're like, this guy, he's going to be in the Heisman list to then Georgia totally shutting them down for a stretch. It goes from 217 to 2421. And that 14 play drive to start in the second half by Georgia. If this season is special for the Bulldogs, that will be a drive that should be remembered

Starting point is 01:08:10 because it was just this, hey, you know, you guys are flying around, you're throwing a deep shots and your receivers are winning against our corners. We're going to hand it off 13 out of 14 plays and run it right down your throats. And they did that. And that felt like this kind of gutting drive still very early and credit to Tennessee because they get right back into this game they take the lead they put together a couple touchdowns another deep shot to brazil they get staley for another one they're up 3530 after a field goal from Georgia and now all of a sudden rocky top sounds good again you're starting to think about the streak is going to end at eight straight losses for Tennessee against Georgia and a place that I love going to games in Knoxville you're like hey and it's

Starting point is 01:08:53 not like this hasn't happened they beat bama last year they beat bama with sabin when it was that shoot out a few years ago. So it's not like Knoxville's like, hasn't had their moment in a long time. But when it's Georgia, when it's the division opponent and the rivalry and it hasn't gone your way and Georgia has that just physical dominating possession with all of those runs to take the lead, all the momentum's on their side. And now you've hit for two big shots. You're like, you're going to survive this.

Starting point is 01:09:16 So it was a constant cycling of like, who am I going to be more impressed with who survives this football game? And Gunner Stockton, who I loved Herb Street on the call because as I was watching it, I was like, yeah, he's all right. he bails a lot and then they brought it up and it's like you know he's a little quick and it happens with a lot of guys with an experience that first read's not there I want to run it because I know I can at least get some yards here and some positive plays but he had two plays on one of the possessions where it was like okay it feels like he's growing up here a little bit facing pressure on a rollout dime and then another play where he just gets wrecked I can't even believe he got the ball out he completes it it was just a baller type of play and I even wrote down I was like man he's growing up here a little bit and then of course after the win Kirby smart's like yeah he's he grew up today. So me and Kirby Smart, almost the same guy. But that's not even the play because it's fourth and six, two-thirty-two left, and he hits London Humphreys on that 28-yard just drops it right into the bucket. That doesn't be in the touchdown. They get the two-point conversion. They tie it. And

Starting point is 01:10:13 even throughout all of that, so all of these things to feel great about now with Gunther Stockton, you know, like, you still might lose the game because Tennessee lines up for the 43-yarder. Everybody's got the phones out and they miss it. And then they lose in overtime. Nine straight for Georgia against Tennessee. So Miami moves up to four because the AP doesn't like Oregon's schedule, I guess. Oregon's tight ends are mutants. I know it's northwestern. I know it looks like a high school stands on the side towards the lake.

Starting point is 01:10:45 It's still beautiful to look at there. But yeah, I get it because Miami's now beat Notre Dame and then they crush the group of five darling in USF 4912. I think USF beating Florida helped Miami get up for this game even more. They held their quarterback Brown. He's just running all over the place most games at two yards rushing minus 16 on the sacks. So it's really 18 yards on design runs. And Beck's completing 78% of his passes. So I think Miami, because we'll get to Notre Dame here in a second, Miami dominating USF like that,

Starting point is 01:11:19 beating Notre Dame at the beginning. Again, you could make an argument if you want to start going resumes here. Like this is how much the AP voters love Penn State. And Penn State may be the best team in the country, so I don't want to make it seem like I'm knocking Penn State at all. But it's credit for Miami's schedule based on pre-season ideas. And it's, you know, look, again, a lot of this is, it's just hard to kind of change minds sometimes of the voters.

Starting point is 01:11:43 All right, let's finish here, A&M at Notre Dame. So it's A&M's first road win against a ranked non-conference opponent since 1979. That stuff blows my mind whenever I see it. Last time they beat a ranked opponent on the road in general was a Auburn in 2014, then they just go, wait a minute. So when did they join the SEC again? 2012. Man, that went fast. I can't believe it's already been 13 years. So I can't believe it's 1979 since they did what they did against Notre Dame. So this game's a free-for-all in the first half, 40, excuse me, 52 points combined. And if we go box score again here, much like we did with

Starting point is 01:12:21 Arch Manning against San Jose, it'll tell you that sophomore quarterback, Marseille, they'll read for A&M through for 360 yards, two touchdowns, one pick. There has to be over 200 yards after the catch in that total. And on the game winning touchdown drive, watching Reed drop back into the rent zone and take forever, and I'm assuming like the first thing isn't there, it's crowded, it's really hard. But I've also watched enough football to realize, like, if you just keep dropping back and hoping it's going to kind of work itself out back there, there's just not going to be

Starting point is 01:12:54 any throwing lanes. It's unless like somebody falls down or sometimes you see the chemistry between a quarterback and a tight end receiver or it's like, hey, when everything's sort of breaking down, let's let's have something we kind of like eye contact and we're going to do something throw to one side, you know, whatever, like that kind of chemistry that develops and certainly with Reed not having that many starts and new receiver group and all that kind of stuff. That's probably not going to be there. But the fact that he threw the game winning touchdown on fourth and goal for,

Starting point is 01:13:24 from the 11. The only thing that I could think of is he's due, at least, because around the defensive holding that reset the downs and gave him the first down, there's four incompletions there where it was awful to watch. So with A&M crack in the top 10, you may think this seems a little unfair, but now we're looking at A&M as a playoff team, right? Like how far can this team go?

Starting point is 01:13:47 And like any of the teams that we're talking about most weeks, it's, hey, you're good, you won, but is this the guy or all that kind of stuff? And the read part of it, maybe it gets better. But those dropbacks just were horrifying, yet he gets the win. He gets the game winner. So I sound like a jerk today going through some of the fire points. Notre Dame, by the way, still in the AP poll, 24th. I like it.

Starting point is 01:14:12 The rest of the schedule, the only ranked team they're going to face, at least that's ranked today, is number 24 USC. SC Twitter, the conspiracy is over. The conspiracy to keep your program down by dark web powers, it's over because now they're ranked. So if Notre Dame ends up 10 and 2, are they in the playoff? Some people have eliminated them already. That's fine. Again, it's 10 and 2 against who else. Is it like we had last year where it's a handful of these teams and we're arguing about them?

Starting point is 01:14:45 And then the SEC goes down their leg with three different losses for some of the teams that were in the conversation. So it's not just a middle of September, your 10 and 2, you will be out. Who are we comparing Notre Dame 2? Because right now it's two losses to two top 10 teams down to the last place. And I would ask you this, is a 10 and 2 argument for Notre Dame in 2025, the same as Indiana at 11 and 1 in 24? While other money managers are holding, Dynamic is hunting. Seeing past the horizon, investing beyond the benchmark,

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Starting point is 01:18:22 You want details? Bye. I drive a Ferrari, 355 cabriolet. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you can possibly imagine. And best of all, kids, I am liquid. So now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required. The email address is Life AdviceR.R. at gmail.com. We've got Kyle. we've got Cerruti. And Oregon is always warming up. Just getting warm. I remember there was this guy Dickinson or something like that.

Starting point is 01:18:57 It was a reliever. We're in the Trent and Thunder and the call to the bullpen and be like, hey, get the dick hard. Wow. Crazy. That sounds like something you'd say like in college or something. That's nuts. Like some saying no one else gets, but like the boys in your house or something. Yeah, you start yelling it.

Starting point is 01:19:15 Can you imagine how cool you felt? If you were on the phone in the dugout, you're in the bullpen, like, hey, get to Dickhart, just hang up, man. That's great. I love to. I have, like, phomo that I didn't, that we didn't do something like that. That's incredible. I wish, I wish that guy, I'd have him on if I can remember who it was.

Starting point is 01:19:39 I go back and look at the roster. It might be worth it, honestly. Just ask one question, like, where? Who was the first guy who said that to you? Yeah. I don't think he was that good either. Doesn't matter. Imagine if you were the best.

Starting point is 01:19:56 Oh, if you were the best. Just the best. I don't know if he was good. Yeah, right. There'd be some sort of graphics on the Jumbotron. I don't know how you could pull that off. Because I saw something on, go ahead, Sirudy, sorry. That's like everybody with like the cocks, you know, you turn,

Starting point is 01:20:15 like 15 you just got i get a south carolina hat got to get a cox had it kidding me you did i think i traded something for it off a dude it was used i was like all right now shit's gonna start coming together yeah a lot of the freshman in pottsdam the high school is there were the pottsdam sandstoners so but it was just the stoners and so you know the the school the local school store was just you know empty always soon as the freshman came in that's that's good got to get a stoner's hat yeah So I went to Goose last night in Vermont, I'll be back in L.A. shortly.

Starting point is 01:20:49 I have never had to do that before. I watched football while all of my friends had their boats tied up in the marina of Lake Champlain, pre-gaming for Goose. The venue was a few hundred yards from my hotel. So I was like, look, I can't. I was like, I'll see you guys when I see you down there. And pre-game, they did. Good group.

Starting point is 01:21:13 A lot of height in this group. I guess one ex-Swedish hockey player. I guess technically, I don't know, I think he's retired now. His boat's name was Swedish fish, which I just think is terrific. Swedish fish are just a great candy. Yeah. Anybody has a problem with Swedish fish, especially you get the right texture once. You're just like, oh, this is such a good time right now.

Starting point is 01:21:36 It's almost impossible to eat Swedish fish too fast just because of the texture when it's correct, you know. I will say, though, the little ones, not the big ones, right? Little ones. Yeah, same page. The big ones actually do taste different. They're not as good, I don't, in my opinion. And if it's just the red, it's like, okay, but I, you can find those ones that have the mixed.

Starting point is 01:21:54 Really? Kyle, you didn't, you like just red. Classic, yeah, classic, you know, medium size red. I think that's my. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong. Goose is a band, right? Doose is a band.

Starting point is 01:22:05 I'm just looking them up. Seemed like cool dudes. No, it's a, it was a positive thinking seminar that I went to. We did have the, uh, the singer on a couple months ago, right? yeah rick they were great i mean they were great and they went for it um but yeah i couldn't partake in the free game stuff and then i was watching chiefs eagles sorry on the boat and that wasn't my normal situation so made her over to the show the show was great i'll say something about i don't know if it's acid but i'll say something about the confidence of guy with potential acid

Starting point is 01:22:39 face. I went over to get something to eat during intermission. Beautiful little setup on the Burlington waterfront. Just incredible. They just never felt like they optimized the waterfront potential when I lived here. It seems like they're doing more and more stuff. They could likely do more. Church Street is a different topic. As a resident that was here a long time and coming back to visit every single year, Church Street is in decline and it's very frustrating. But the waterfront it seems on the ascent. So I'll leave it at that. But I went to go get some food and a dude looked at me with a face I just have never

Starting point is 01:23:16 ever seen before. And so maybe it's gummies because it feels like literally everybody's on gummies now. But it wasn't a terrified look. You're saying it's different. No. He looked at me like I was, it was just like knowing look and he was so happy. And he just, again, I've never, I don't have any experience with. that and i don't know why i'm saying acid face and maybe i'm being unfair but it was different it wasn't

Starting point is 01:23:42 just a it was just a look of like determination happiness understanding all kind of like combined wonder yeah wonder yeah that's great kyle and he looked at me like i felt like i had a bear suit on i was like did i wear my bear suit today no just i just got a shacket on hat not a big deal and he looked at me like he knew everything about me and we've never met yeah crazy shout up shout out to that guy again goose was great but I had to leave to then walk back up to the hotel watch the chiefs eagle stuff that I needed for the show today prep up a little cottage football and watch Michael Pennix take over man so you should have just stayed a tough watch

Starting point is 01:24:35 those solo those solo games when they're bad it's just like what am I doing why am I watching this game fair I was about I was about to ask you I was like isn't it like something like if you goose somebody isn't that a thing and I was like

Starting point is 01:24:51 let me just urban dictionary at first and I'm like I didn't want to bring it up but once I read it I just couldn't stop laughing so if anybody was wondering why I was fucking laughing if war got it didn't cut it out it's like isn't it like thing where you goose somebody? I was like, oh, wait, never mind. I just looked it up.

Starting point is 01:25:08 Yeah, what did Rosillo do? He flew cross country to go just punch dudes and random strangers in the ass. He's wicked into it. Like, there was something in the back of my head. I'm like, what is that? And I just like, let me look it up before I ask about it. Get the dicks hard, you know?

Starting point is 01:25:24 I don't know. Just the way that it's like said on Google is just a funny word. It's so stupid. All right. I had never heard that one. Oh, shit. You've never heard that term before?

Starting point is 01:25:35 No, I know I've heard it before, but I didn't put my finger on it. No, no pun intended. Oh, shit. I think now that I got that out, I can be normal. There's a festival every year here in Vermont, and you can't be in trouble for boosting strangers. You guys have never. I got you a shirt, Kyle. Oh, shit.

Starting point is 01:25:54 All right. I'm going to be okay. I got Houston Burlington. No, I got Kyle of my shirt that says I'm here for the goose and. oh shit all right okay dudes are losing it early

Starting point is 01:26:08 it's just ridiculous wording it really is you're just looking it up oh shit that's funny we were standing by this like security barrier because like eventually because a few of my friends own all these places

Starting point is 01:26:23 and I'm like we're not in the VIP like what the fuck's wrong with you guys that what happened to you since I've left boats guys but not VIP guys yeah right Right. And then as we were standing in some barrier because somebody was like, don't worry, working on it, working on it. A guy went by and did like a cup check to like six of us in a row. And I almost threw a punch. Who did? One of your buddies you're saying.

Starting point is 01:26:46 It was an adjacent buddy. So I wasn't really psyched with him touching my dick at a concert. To be honest with you, it wasn't my favorite part of the show. And I'm so mad. Like for five or six. seconds like cocked and ready to plant my feet and yeah when you think about how long it's been you know what i mean every year you get away from being a guy who has to worry about that it really the more it feels like assault yeah i think i'd be mad now and you've got like you know you certainly got a few years on me and if somebody did one of my buddies did that to me i was like no no no i would just i think i have to have a talk with everyone like we're not going back we're not going back we all survive i don't want to do this i don't want to be a defensive stance i don't want to do

Starting point is 01:27:31 this. And I don't like you guys, I'm not playing. I want to do it to you now to get even. Right. And now it's just going to,

Starting point is 01:27:38 you know, revving up the old engine. No thanks, man. Yeah. That's a great point, Kyle. Like certain age,

Starting point is 01:27:46 you have to be like, hey, we need to have a meeting because we're not going back to this. We've graduated and we are not going back. Right. You got that one and that's it. That's it.

Starting point is 01:27:56 All right. No advice. What we got here? Somebody sent me, yeah, I haven't done advice yet. That's probably my fault. I'm so sorry. Somebody sent in a picture of the Fenway peanut guy saying, hey, he's still there, crushing it. I've seen this guy that the picture is sent up.

Starting point is 01:28:14 This guy is also really good. He's not the guy. I'm an imitator. Different guy. This guy's awesome. The picture that has been sent to me, I appreciate. This guy's one of the good ones, but he's not the guy I was talking about. And I'll also just say thank you to everybody that hit me.

Starting point is 01:28:31 me up on the open because I can't do it with everyone. Yeah, you're feeling that. It was good. You seem to really like it. Okay. Oh, somebody had an interaction with me at Goose last night. Do we do this one real quick? Yeah, I mean.

Starting point is 01:28:46 Took my daughter to see Goose for the second time in about as many years in Burlington. Trying to get his memories in before she wants nothing to do with me. I like that. How old? Eight-year-old daughter? I think that's cool. There were some people with strollers there. I think if you have to bring your kid in a stroller to a concert.

Starting point is 01:29:06 Yeah, if you need to have a vessel, maybe it's a wrong. Yeah, wrong move. But I think eight's cool. One of the drawbacks is taking an eight-year-old at a concert, there'd be multiple trips to the bathroom. Most likely we'll make it to the end while making the way to the bathroom right before the first set break or walking by. Who do I bump into? But Mr. Life Advice, Ryan Rusillo, said a quick hello and off we went. Here are my questions.

Starting point is 01:29:24 Are these interactions ever not awkward? I tried my best, but left wondering if R.R. could have been happier to see me, walk away no two did I manage go ahead sirie no I'll just tackle

Starting point is 01:29:38 the beginning you are an awkward greeter I've said this multiple times it could be in person it could be on a Zoom I feel

Starting point is 01:29:47 I feel obligated a lot of the time when somebody comes in on the Zoom to say something first because you just don't say anything and I think Kyle knows what I'm talking about

Starting point is 01:29:56 probably work on too and it's not I don't think you're I don't think you're being a dick it's just kind of you So I don't think you don't appreciate people coming up to you. I just think that's kind of your personality. Like you're a little unfriendly, but not like you're not unfriendly, but you can be unfriendly.

Starting point is 01:30:12 Hmm. Fair. All Friday feedback on Monday. Yes. Yeah. So number two, I did manage to ask when we were going to see a live show to which Rosillo replied along the lines of quote, I'd never sell this out. Yeah, that's exactly what I said.

Starting point is 01:30:27 I'd say that I'd humble. Yeah. I'd say that five. There's a 5,000 person outdoor event in the Burlington Waterfront is, why can I not speak right now? Let's try that sentence again. I'd say a 5,000 person outdoor event at the Burlington Waterfront is actually 50-50, but even not. Nectar's no longer an option. Nectors did close.

Starting point is 01:30:48 There are plenty of places we all packing to see a live show. That was a great interaction. You were super friendly, nice, and you actually never stopped. Kept going throughout all of it. And I was standing with like six buddies. So it was fine, and they were all having a little bit more fun than I was. Okay. How about an email?

Starting point is 01:31:08 All right. Mother-in-law wants to go by Nona. What do you call your grandmother's surrety? They were just grandma, grandpa. Grandma, nice, grandma. There was a discussion about my mom, I think, wanting to be called something, and we kind of just nip that in the bud right away. Oh, dude. This one's for you.

Starting point is 01:31:29 You got to let her, dude. I'll hear the email first, but yeah. Well, my brother wanted when he was, he's like nine years younger than me. And everyone was like, you know, my one grandma wanted to be called nanny. And I was like push. I was like trying to teach him my younger brother. I'm like, no, this is grandma. She's been grandma like, you're the new kid.

Starting point is 01:31:44 You don't get to just make a new one. And it turns out I learned as I'm older. My grandma wanted to be called nanny. And I was like, oh, man, I just stood in the way of this thing. And now the kid's like, you know, he's an adult now too. So I robbed her that. I think you got to let the mom's pick. but anyway history's being written right on a roy i remember when um so i was the third

Starting point is 01:32:04 oldest child on my mother's grandmother's side so of the grandchildren i was the third oldest and the oldest because the grandmother didn't want to be called grandma she's like i don't want to be called grandma and so the oldest grandchild was like what you should do mimi she was like great Mimi, not realizing that that cousin's, the grandchild, the oldest, other's grandmother was also neat. She got it from the other one. So this went on. Oh, it was like, it's like, incepted into it.

Starting point is 01:32:36 Yeah, it went on for years because she was like, well, if I had known that the grandmother on that side, his name Mimi, I would never, ever have accepted this at the time. And it was like, fucking too late. Yeah. Get awkward. Yeah. That's too late. She didn't have all the data.

Starting point is 01:32:50 So my wife and I are expecting her first child. I saw them a few days. My mother-in-law wants to go by Nona. No one or her family's ever gone by this. I'm pretty sure she just wants people to think she's Italian. My wife agrees. It's weird, but doesn't want to say anything because she's more focused on birthing the baby. Is there anything or any way I can push for her to just go by grandma? Should I let it be? Some additional insight. My grandma was born in Italy and owned an Italian restaurant with her husband and still went by grandma. My mom is 100% Italian. Still goes by grandma. Assuming she should let this go, is there any window to stop my mother and law, like, going by Nona. I think if she's not Italian, you've got her leg to stand on, otherwise, I think you just have a Nona. I think that's what it is. If she's, like, Polish or something, that's insane. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:33:37 Asian. I mean, I guess each, each, I feel like country has their own, right? So, I don't know, there could be whatever. But if they are Italian, I mean, you could just call them grandma, like, just tell the kids to call them. You could just ignore the request and just go that route. Ignore it? I just

Starting point is 01:33:54 Can you do that? I think you can. Yeah, just call, Hey, we're going to grandma's house and then your kids to start calling a grandma,

Starting point is 01:34:00 you know? What does she corrects them? Are you going to fight that fight? No, you don't, but you could just, you just don't have to entertain it, I think.

Starting point is 01:34:08 Yeah, well, you're kind of, you're like, this is pretty, this is about a passive, aggressive moves as you can make. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:34:15 If you don't want to, if you want to do it, don't do it. He's not like, I want to be called Beau. Like, this is, this is like an acceptable,

Starting point is 01:34:21 It's like an acceptable name. Maybe you have like a pitch meeting with her. Maybe you have a pitch meeting and you, and clearly she doesn't just want to be grandma. And sometimes, I don't know. Maybe it's like, you know, maybe some people when they get older, they're like,

Starting point is 01:34:34 I don't want to be a grandma. I want to be a Nona or I want to be a Gigi or whatever. Like what? Well, maybe you can have a pitch meeting with her and you put your heads together. So I guess I don't know the origin story of these. And I always thought it was like some natural thing where like the kid just said Nona or the kid said me,

Starting point is 01:34:49 me or the, you know what I mean? And, like, it was like an organic thing. It's like, it's kind of like giving yourself a nickname, right? Like, remember when Dwayne Wade gave himself the nickname, what was it, wow? And everyone was like, that's weird. Don't do that. I kind of feel like it's the same.

Starting point is 01:35:03 It's like, hey, call me. I mean, I guess it's, I don't know. It's kind of earned, though. It's not like you just, hey, I'm in, I'm in college now. I guess what everyone's calling me. Like, it's kind of earned. It's really like the third generation of, you know, whatever. You end up living through these grandkids, it seems like.

Starting point is 01:35:15 Yeah. I think, you know, I think you just come up with something you both like. I don't know why he's so against Nona unless he's like, someone's like, it's always grandma. It's going to be grandma this person and grandma that. Like, I don't know. I think you should let her have a say, but if you guys are both against Nona, I'd say just have a little pitch meeting with her and figure out what you can all live with.

Starting point is 01:35:35 You guys are underestimating the steely resolve of older people. Dude, that's why I would just say, fine, you got a Nona. But it seems like he's writing an email, so he really doesn't want that to come to pass. It's also not his mom. Right. It's the mother-in-law. Right. Imagine the grandmother's holding her and she's like, I'm, you know, no.

Starting point is 01:35:56 Just like, no. In the room. We've actually discussed this grandma. Not going to work. No can do. It's got to be your wife's call. Totally. I would stay out of it.

Starting point is 01:36:14 Fair. That it would be pretty funny if to, kids were of crayon age and they did like dear grandma stuff and you're like hey put this on the fridge see how she reacts she may have to give in um we've got an email here that I haven't read and it says something about a grandfather being addicted to hookers so we're going to go ahead and we're going to preview that one maybe star that one but we could do it for once yeah let's star it put it on the important tab yeah circle back

Starting point is 01:36:51 forward this back to the the primo that will do that for the life advice special what have we had an older person on they just come on and be like hey we've got this no no one we've got this hooker one for you like you know we're all I'm not against it at all the same age but this is where maybe we're a little limited in our scope here

Starting point is 01:37:13 and we just have an older guy who comes on a wild card in the life advice I love it yeah he's like 75 and he just every all of his advice is like just fucking leave him be i don't care you shouldn't either made it to three quarters of a century let him cook all right um can i spray down my neighbor's wasp nests do we have to read the email i almost feel like this is a yes 28 years old 510 185 no impressive gym stats career high bench of 275 one rep but had surgery in a torn labor him a year and a half ago and that has significantly decreased my weightlifting.

Starting point is 01:37:52 I hate hearing that, buddy. NBA comp, PJ Tucker, without the elite defense, camp in the corner on offense and occasionally heat up for three, or play small ball center against the Lakers in the playoffs. My wife and I bought a house in Dallas in a suburb, don't care if you use the city, okay, a couple of weeks ago. Sorry to experience the burdens of home ownership. Here's my dilemma.

Starting point is 01:38:15 I had several small wasp nests around my house. that I was easily able to spray down, but my next door neighbor has two large nests on the side of their house. Even though all of my nest have been eradicated, I'm still noticing a large presence of wasps. How would you guys engage this? I briefly consider just spraying the neighbor's nest down, but I feel like that crosses a line. The easiest solution would be to ask my neighbor if I can spray down their nests, but don't want to come across as passive aggressive, some information that may be helpful. We have been in the neighborhood for approximately two weeks. I have not seen the neighbor come and go. I have no idea of their age,

Starting point is 01:38:54 gender, et cetera. At least you're not assuming anything then. I assume it is either a single person or an older person given a lack of activity. I'm quite confident there are no kids present. I can see that the neighbor's backyard contains a large garden. I heard someone working in it yesterday. Okay. So if there's a garden there, that's a good sign because it means that someone who didn't just move in for the functionality of sleeping and watching TV, garden tells you a lot about this person. I think that's a really positive sign. You got a garden surreity?

Starting point is 01:39:27 No. Neighbor does, though. There you go. Tomatoes for days. The lawn side of the house with the wasp nest has been moaned recently. Part of me wants to wait for more information before I make a move, but I'm also growing tired of the wasps. How would the tribunal,

Starting point is 01:39:48 but please weigh in if you want to, Oregon, approach this. Thanks for the laughs. All right. So, you know, we've got two wasp nests here. He sent in a picture. Shades drawn.

Starting point is 01:40:00 Got to keep the cooling bill down, maybe. I don't know. Yeah. Good call, Kyle. Texas, Dallas suburb. It seems like a great way to meet your neighbor, no? Doesn't it? What if something goes wrong,

Starting point is 01:40:11 down? What do you mean? What could go wrong? I've never sprayed a wasp nest down. Like, I don't know what the danger of that is. You know, Google search. Well, what is it? You just spray it.

Starting point is 01:40:22 It looks like it's like soapy water and it just suffocates them. But what if you, like, miss and then you agitate them and I'll be getting like a swarm of wasp in this person's yard. You got to be pretty confident. The gas trick. The gas trick is all that. Saw that. Pop it right up there. The fumes just makes me wish I had a wasp nest.

Starting point is 01:40:37 Right. I don't know. I just don't see why this isn't a great, you know, opportunity to, you know, opportunity to introduce yourself to your neighbors, be like, hey, I noticed I was just not, you know, I just, you know, absolutely destroyed these wastes nests. I'm pretty good at this. I notice you have two. Do you want me to just do that? Then you're, then you're saying, hey, I'm new to the neighborhood, whatever. Because the only way I could see, there's a few ways I could see it going wrong is like, I think back to like true detective is like, I mow my lawn.

Starting point is 01:41:04 Don't you ever mow my lawn. I know that was like more of a girl thing. And, you know, Woody Harrison's character had like a guilty conscience at that time, but like, it could just be like, I take care of the stuff on my lawn, so don't worry about it. Or it could be like, you know, I'm thinking about my wife. She'd be like, there must be a more humane way to move these wafts when in reality, I would just go and be like, oh, yeah, they left. I don't know what happened. Just lie to her about, you know, the ugly truth of the situation.

Starting point is 01:41:26 So I could just, I think it's just better to talk about it with someone, you know. Somebody you don't even know. This is like, you know who you're living next to now as well. And you're getting off to what you assume is a nice foot by saying, do I'm going to help you out with this. I'm already doing it anyway. or no you know it's some face-to-face thing that you're worried about there or being nicknamed wasp guy in the neighborhood like nice loafers uh yeah exterminator

Starting point is 01:41:52 i think the garden tells you everything because if there was no if you told me like rusted patty up herding frame you know tarps yeah yeah a lot of the lawn has major issues blue tarp in it everywhere. Outboard engine and Evan Rood, 10 horsepower, just kind of off to the side. There's a bunch of wood that I can tell has been there for years. I don't know. I don't think they have a fire pit. It's sorting tables.

Starting point is 01:42:22 A bunch of knick knacks, like an antique show in the backyard. Bird fountain with no water in it. For years, yeah, I think if that were the decor, then it'd be totally wrong to just go over there because you have no idea. Just spraying down the nests. It's going

Starting point is 01:42:40 over there just in general without anything other than an introduction yeah who knows you know careful yeah yeah the whole thing i think the garden is a huge positive the lawn being fresh is a huge positive and maybe with the way it's lined up and with their shades down from the from the pictures that we have maybe they don't even know maybe it's a non wasp area their garden so i i think going over there and just introducing yourself or if you just felt like a little shy about it even you say hey move move next door here's my name here's my number there's two's wasp and that's i took down a couple over here who who would ever in the battle of neighbors be like hey my lot my wasps nobody would ever do that so i think you i think you're a good spot here yeah

Starting point is 01:43:27 wargon anything i don't have much i know you're high on the garden what if they're using the wasps as like a natural predator to turn for the for the garden They can keep pests away. Did you research that? I did. He seemed pretty confident. Yeah. That wasn't.

Starting point is 01:43:49 Wasp, isn't there like a better, isn't there a better one than wasps though? Wasp are like angry, man. They're nasty. Yeah. Yeah. Like, hey, look, my peppers need to come in. Sorry about your kids. Might not want to have the slip and slide out anymore.

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