The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Eagles Win, But Hope For the Cowboys? Plus, 32 NFL Team Questions and Super Bowl Picks With Willie Colon.

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

Russillo starts the show with his thoughts on DAL-PHI before being joined by Ceruti to answer one question about every NFL team. Then, Willie Colon comes on to recap Dak Prescott’s performance, share his Super Bowl pick, and preview how Aaron Rodgers will look in Pittsburgh. Finally, Life Advice with Ceruti and Kyle! (0:00) Welcome to The Ryen Russillo Podcast! (3:05) Jalen Carter spits on Dak (11:27) On the CeeDee Lamb drop (12:45) 32 NFL Team Questions: AFC East (15:51) AFC North (19:32) AFC South (22:27) AFC West (25:30) NFC East (30:12) NFC North (34:18) NFC South (38:19) NFC West (44:43) Willie Colon joins the show! (49:53) How was Dak’s performance? (56:33) Who did you pick to win the Super Bowl? (59:57) We’re watching the decline of the Chiefs (1:02:46) What is your expectation for the Steelers? (1:10:14) What version of Jordan Love will we get this year? (1:15:22) Favorite young QB (1:28:58) Life Advice (1:36:31) Should I have fought someone at a football game? (1:48:56) Can I call my nephew Arthur, Thor? Check us out on YouTube for exclusive clips, livestreams, and more at https://www.youtube.com/@RyenRussilloPodcast. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Host: Ryen Russillo Guest: Willie Colon Producers: Steve Ceruti, Kyle Crichton, Mike Wargon, and Jonathan Frias Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A loaded football podcast for you on a Friday after the opening night kickoff in Philadelphia. The Eagles hang on after a fun scoring game turned into a fun defensive game after delay. I think the one thing I take from it, the most important factor of the game, I'll break that down a little bit. also the Jamon Carter spitting incident and more on that game with our good friend Willie Cologne, who's going to talk Aaron Rogers in his backyard, not New York, but his old stomping grounds, Pittsburgh, we'll get a Super Bowl picks. I'll give you my Super Bowl picks. They are definitive, they're emphatic, and we will be unrelenting with how serious we are about these picks. And Sir Rudy's going to go 32 teams in, not 32 minutes, but 32 questions, 32 teams

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Visit RG-HELP.com. Call 888-78-7-7-7 or visit ccpG.org forward slash chat in Connecticut paid endorsement. the NFL season has started we had one game the Eagles won it at home let's run through a game that was actually a ton of fun and then was delayed and stalled out quite a bit so Eagles win this one 2420 against Dallas the game opened with both teams scoring on every position so eight straight possessions we had points so it doesn't mean that every time everybody scores but like look obviously

it's a little bit more entertaining than having the dud that we had offensively after the back. So I don't know if that's just cut it to the defense or what. But Dallas fumbles on first down at the Philadelphia 10 with 440 go, 444 to go in the third quarter. And then we have a 65-minute delay. And then after that, it's five straight punts, turnover on downs, and then Philly takes a knee. During that 65-minute delay, I was scrambling for my Sunday night football too deep. And any of you that had the over in this game, which was 47 and a half, when you're sitting there at 2420,

you really hate lightning today. So we opened the game with at least the field action with Jalen Carter spitting on DAC, turned into a lot of what's up with this guy, the rep coming out of Georgia. I don't know. I'm sure there's some teams that regret not taking him higher than he ended up going

where Philadelphia is like we have a bunch of vets. We have good players in here. This guy could have been the number one overall PIP. We're just going to go for it anyway. So I don't, you know, people were trying to connect the two like, hey, this is why, this is why his draft status. And it's like, yeah, and still every other team would take him even though he spit on DAC.

But what we didn't know at the time, because at first you're like, what did Dak say to him? But Dak actually spit towards him. We saw that video later. Dak explained it after the game where he's like, first of all, he was talking shit to my rookie offensive lineman Booker, who was the first round pick. And then he said that, well, Dak was like, I then I went to spit in between my own line and I spit in his general direction.

He was like, did you try to spit on me? He's like, I use more Carlo for language other than, you know, he explained it afterwards in a toned down version going, why would I need to spit on you? And then they kind of face off there a bit and Carter spits on him. And in that moment, once again, proving that I think in the moment, at least with sports, our reaction to anything that needs to be punished is just absurd. We need to all give it 48 hours. But we're never going to do that.

I understand that. Because look, Carter gets thrown out of the game. He's going to get a fine. That's enough. people saying he should be suspended and then I think with further evidence at least you understand even if he was wrong to spit on DAC

you understand why he did it whether it was a misunderstanding whether it's him being immature who cares maybe it's all of those things maybe it's another those things so the feeling that he had to have walking off on the NFL opener on nationally televised TV and then not being there for his team which by the way

when Dallas was scoring was gashing this Philadelphia front You know, Javante Williams on the scene with two touchdowns, and I'm watching during the scoring portion of this game, because it's kind of the best way to describe it, the scoring version and the zero scoring version. But Philadelphia's D with all this personnel, even without Carter, there's just a lot of names I was looking for during this free-for-all that Dallas was putting together. And granted, we'll get to Philly's offensive output here as well because they won the game. But during this time, like, there was an 11-yard run by Williams on first down that set it up for the second touchdown where, I mean, I couldn't believe he had 11 yards out of that. They're like, where are these guys? Like, I realize Carter's gone, but like, how come Jordan Davis isn't doing something?

Nolan Smith, they don't hear his name for a little while until we do hear it. It's a tackle for a loss, but then he gets a taunting penalty. Quinnian Mitchell, who will get to the rest of his night. When you don't hear his name, that's probably a good thing with the corner. Cooper de Gene like some of these other guys I think Zach Bonn was getting there, getting some pressure but it's just such a loaded two deep when this team is right

that you would think is Dallas is going to move the ball and these guys whenever they want. And C.D. Lamb, despite the disappointing end of this game, any time it seemed like Dak needed some kind of escape valve. C.D. was just always open. I mean, the guy's stud,

there's just on a long list of receivers that are ahead of him, even though understandably everybody's very disappointed with how this game closed. out. And then you also had Dallas targeting a Dory Jackson, that holding penalty on CD in the end sound was just, I mean, laughable. He pulls his whole chest plate down and then he's looking around going. So anyway, Dallas ends up fumbling. There's some other plays in here where I think, you know, eventually with Philadelphia's defensive guys in the second half of this game where you started to see Mitchell make some plays even though he dropped a pick that he should have had. Zach Bond. tackle on Sanders, had me looking up Sanders 40 time last night because the linebacker shouldn't catch a running back from behind. Sanders runs a 4-4-9 at the combine. Zach was at 4-6-5 at the combine, but he caught up right to him.

And that ended up being a huge part of, you know, because normally you'd expect the running back, especially to run away from a linebacker in that spot. So who knows how this game ends up? Jordan Davis, did you start seeing him a little bit more? And obviously, Philadelphia's defense responded, and they weren't going to just be able run it right up the middle. But as that was happening, I was wondering, like, are you going to have Dallas because of DAC and because of the weapons, because of CD, because of Pickens and Ferguson and this old line? Like, are they going to use this old line to wear down a cardless defense

or did it feel like the defense for Philadelphia reset and then the old line for Philadelphia ended up winning this football game by being able to convert a bunch of third downs? Because we need to get to Jalen Hertz. In this game, the two touchdowns, 14. carries 62 yards. He started the game five of five on third downs. And if I had to point to one thing that decided this football game, and there's a bunch of different things that we can get to, you can say this is more important. For me, in my opinion, the most important part of this was a scrambling ability of hurts and breaking down any kind of stop that the defense for Dallas thought they were going to get in some of these plays. Like there's the third down where he ends up making a linebacker, which I didn't understand because they showed us the end zone angle of this. And I'm like, are they going to bring a spy in on Hertz? Because Hertz is starting to burn them a little bit, right? But a linebacker, inside linebacker, trailed a route in front of him that was past the sticks to double team the receiver.

And Hertz sees it and he's gone. The linebacker tries to recover to contest against Hertz. He ends up getting juked, falls down, completely out of play. Hertz, another first down. So Hertz did a great job of balancing what the offense needed at that time. Then we saw a couple of tissue pushes later on. And even though they looked like there was a pretty helpful. the spot on one of them. Nobody was able to stop it and two votes away from changing

this, which again, I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not I think it should or shouldn't happen. I guess I'm probably sick of talking about whether or not it should or shouldn't happen, but it didn't happen. And Philadelphia is the best at it, even though I thought it was funny that Mila had told the broadcast how much he hated it after the fifth one. He's like, put the camera on me because we hate it too. But it works. And there was another play too with Hertz where it wasn't just about a completion. It wasn't just about gaining yardage on the ground. It was about his escapeability in the face of pressure where it may not have even been a positive play, but it was about him avoiding a massive negative play.

Like Diggs, corner blitz, gets to him, but, you know, it's hurts. So he's still not 100% sure of how he wants to attack it. He misses the tackle. I don't know why. I hope he was smiling. It hurts because he missed him. And he was kind of like, man, you got like, I thought I had you and I got away from you as opposed to Diggs celebrating that he forced some kind of incompletion because you should

have been a sack and should have been a loss. yards. But those are the kinds of plays that don't necessarily show you that he did anything great as far as a completion for a big run. But he had a lot of that happening last night. I thought Dallas was getting better pressure than the final numbers would indicate. And again, in a losing cause here, but it didn't matter because whenever Hertz was disrupted, not to say that he was completing a lot of stuff, he was actually avoiding sex. So I thought that that was a huge part of this. Dak on the other side, he was aggressive in this game. I like the aggressiveness. First and 22 to Ferguson. This is before the fumble. Incomplete, but he just went

for it. Third and 22, throws it to him again. The penalty on Ferguson, or excuse me, well, the penalty on blanket ship, defenseless receiver of Ferguson on that one. The live part of it looked a lot worse than the replay, so I can understand why the rest of the flag, even if on the replay, maybe I didn't like it as much. And then look, he has the CD drop on first down with 247 left. I I did think that they should have run a play before the two-minute warning, unless they didn't like the look. Because if you play out the timeout math and then everything, it's like, well, if you end up having to punt, wouldn't have made more sense to get the two-minute warning, then the three timeouts. Then you have the extra timeout to try to figure out a way to save some

of this. So I don't know what was going on there. If it was we don't like the look or if they thought we're just taking a two-minute warning and we still have our three timeouts, it doesn't really matter. I still think in the back of your head, somebody on the sideline has to be like, Look, if we don't convert on fourth down, as much of the game is probably over, is there a way to salvage a timeout? Maybe, maybe. It's just something I thought about there. But you've got the CD drop.

That was the huge one, to 247 left. It's an unbelievable throw. He's got the post. They've got somebody on the seam that's kind of bringing the safety down a little. So CD just, I know it sucks because he had that drop. He had a drop earlier. And then on the last play on the fourth and four or fourth and three, where Dak went for CD one-on-one down the left sideline.

That's a really, really tough catch. I mean, he lays out, tries to hang on to it, even if he secures the catch. I don't know if he secures it all the way through the collision he was going to have with Earth after it. So I know it wasn't a great night for him, but he's going to have a great season. And I do like Dak's aggressiveness, even if there was a Mitchell pick that he should have had, even if there was another throwing a double coverage there late, that was a little dicey. But it really was hurts.

It was the O line. and I don't really look at this as I have all this blame other than that CD catch, I guess. But maybe, maybe it's that all of us collectively looked at Dallas going like, yeah, I guess they could get to the playoffs, but nobody's ever really taking them seriously going up against the best team in the conference at their place, Banner Knight, and the delay. I don't think Dallas should be getting beat up all week after a loss like that. But Hertz, again, felt like the difference in a non-huge statistical night.

Okay, before we jump to Willie Cologne here, let's bring in Sir Rudy. He's got 32 questions, 32 NFL teams. I have 17 minutes. Good luck. We're going to rip through these. Let's see. All right. I'm just going to go division by division.

These could be one word answers, too. He could just roll if you want to spend a little bit more time you can. Bills, lost two of the last five years in the AFC title game, four of the last five to the Chiefs. Do you think they have a better, worse, or the same shot as the Super Bowl as the five past years. I mean, it's still about Mahomes, probably as much as it is about them. And then you can throw in Burrow and Lamar. So I like the team better this year.

I thought last year was a bit of a reset year, and they still were terrific. I have a hard time believing they're going to replicate the turnover margin. They were plus 24 last year. They had only eight giveaways. They also had incredible continuity in the offensive line, which is a question. So I do think they're better. they may have a worse record, but Super Bowl chances has just as much

to do with everybody else in the AOC than them. All right. Pats. Do they have the best shot of anyone in the division to knock the bills off the top spot? How loud that sounds ridiculous? Because I probably still like Jets personnel. I mean, it's a Drake May has this roster because I think it, I don't know,

two years ago it might have been the most ridiculously boring roster in the entire league. They added enough. So it's a huge Drake-May thing. I'll still say healthy Miami is the best chance. Healthy Tua, personnel-wise, they have a better chance than New England. All right. Speaking of the Dolphins, is Mike McDaniel kind of a fraud head coach, or do we just get bored of him?

We're more bored than he would be a fraud. But it was pretty clear because he's a little different. And the thing that was celebrated is that he was different. He was weird. It's like, man, he likes rap. This is awesome. They weren't joggers. Yeah.

This guy, look at those shades. It's something you'd see in Scarface. So you knew all that was going to work against him towards the end, but his job was to fix Tua. That was a coaching staff prior to him that didn't trust Tua. It's my red zone thing. You see the play calling. You're like, oh, my God, they don't trust Tua at all.

And instead, McDaniels just feeds him the royal jelly. And whatever you think of Tua. Because I still think there are limitations there. He fixed the Tua asset part of this. So I don't think he's a fraud. He'll likely get fired if they're not healthy again. It'll probably be a great offensive coordinator for a little while. They do win when two is healthy too.

All right. Jets, do you have any hope left for Johnson Fields? No, but I'll tell you, the Fields Army, you are the strongest supporting fans based on the least amount of evidence that you're right of any quarterback I can ever remember. What's the line? God gives his strongest or toughest battles to his hardest soldiers or what I'm screwed it up. But that's, yeah, that's Justin Fields and his fans. Bengals, is Joe Burrow the most likely guy to win MVP, not name Holmes, Alan, or Lamar? Yeah. Unless Washington has an incredible year with all the momentum that Jaden has, I mean, is a non-quarterback? Could there be somebody?

Is Saquan going to match what he did last year and feel like, hey, let's give it to somebody else. Like, I always never underestimate the boredom part of it in voting, but I don't, I don't, I don't really know. I mean, you could be offering up somebody else, but odds-wise, I'd imagine it's Burrow. So, yeah, he is, he is the odds-on favorite. Jaden is fifth, J-1-Hertz six. So, yeah, Vegas would tell you, his band-o will tell you, yes. Hertz is probably not going to have the statistical stuff ever that is going to get enough voters.

and fair or unfair, but people are going to look at that roster and that he's not tasked with carrying a team the way Burrow is. The first non-QB is Sakey is way down there plus 6,000. Ravens, are they top the bottom, the best team of the AFC? Yeah, I think so. I mean, I want to see what happens with this Kansas City receiving corps. There's so many guys in Kansas City's defense that I do really like. They've changed over this old line with Mahomes now a third time.

time. So clearly they've had issues after the Tampa loss, after the Philly loss. They kind of deserve the benefit of the doubt. Like if Kansas City, it's like the old Spurrow thing. When Kansas City likes somebody, I'm like, okay, well, then it confirms it. But the secondary for Baltimore, finally having receivers, running back O line, all that kind of stuff. And I think the D line just kind of gets overlooked as a unit for Baltimore because there aren't maybe the name brands. There's not that one guy that so many other teams have. So yeah, I would say yes. Steelers, and I'm stealing this from Craig Horlebeck of the fantasy show, because I thought

it was intriguing? Is it possible that we're just underestimating Aaron Rogers, like that he's just going to suck? Like, could he be good? Because I mean, I'll spend a little more time of this one. 40 coming off in Achilles. Like, it's not terribly surprising he was awful last year. Most guys off in Achilles aren't good. And are we just assuming too much saying he's going to suck? If he weren't turning 42 in December, then I would be buying up more Roger's the same way I was when you had the 18 and 19 seasons where there was a push to be like, this guy's not the guy anymore. And there were some numbers that you could look at.

I forget if it was like throws outside the numbers. There were some stuff that looked like it was alarming and trending in the wrong direction. Then he won MVP back-to-back seasons in 20 and 21 at 37 and 38 years old. The problem is it's been four years since he's been really good. Okay. His last year in Green Bay, he was 26th in QBR. So that's 17-game season. So it's been four years since he's been special.

And I don't think he's going to suck, but I don't look at him as this difference maker, this elevator, even though Pittsburgh, even in the most down years, still finds a way to have a good record. Browns, does Shador start at least one game? Yes. Yeah.

The starter, they're not going to be good enough for the starter to start at all season. Dylan Gabriel can be higher on the depth chart. They'll probably just start Sanders to give in a little bit, and then that can turn into its whole thing. Because I'll tell you, that's Sanders talk. It speaks to the void of content, but the Sanders conversation, because I wasn't around for a lot of it, that was some of the dumbest shit that I've seen in a long time. All right, Texans, are they the product of a terrible division, or are they a legit AFC contender? legit aOC contender is I mean it's kind of two different questions I don't think they're a legit aOC contender until I see what the O line looks like it's considered maybe the worst group in the entire league and I still really like C.J. Stroud the rookie year into last year like I don't go up you know he's been derailed it's heading in the wrong direction but AFC contender with those other heavy hitters so maybe it's an easy division but I don't

don't even, okay, yes, it's an easy division, but then I can't take the next step until I see what the protection is like for this offense because it was bad last year. Titans, what chance would you give Cam Ward as being a better number one pick than Caleb Williams? Oh, ouch. That Sando thing shook my world. It was like, how many guys don't like Caleb? He's like, it's not like five, it was like 20 people that were really down on him after watching the tape. Because Cam Ward hasn't played yet. And because, you know, Cam's probably like his persona is something that people are way

more into than Caleb because most of the negativity that I heard about Caleb before even the draft was like, are you doubting him because anything he does in the field? Or you doubt it because you just don't like, you know, that he paints his nails and he cried because I think that has way more to do with it. But I'll put it at 25%. I'm not giving up on Caleb, despite Sandow's blitzing of negativity. we'll get to CA up a little bit later Colts this is not really a Colts question I guess

but it's like it seems like Anthony Richardson's done there would you trade anything of significance for him no and I don't think I would have drafted him so I mean you're talking to somebody who like lost it in the fantasy world last year going what are you guys doing and then of course it's like well fantasy is different the NFL I'm like I'm aware

but you guys have him like ranked number two people taking him like fifth overall he's thrown 348 pass is he's completed 51%. The numbers aren't very good, but it's just I thought he was as far as like a guy who's supposed to be a guy,

I thought it was the worst quarterback play of anybody that was still holding out hope. I imagine he's probably going to start again, but I wouldn't trade anything for him. He was a project when he was drafted. Speaking of still holding out hope, Jaguars, is this the last year before Trevor Lawrence,

like we officially say, hey, you're probably a bust. Yep. Yeah. liked him a lot as a prospect. I mean, it just seemed like he had everything. And though even the rookie bumps, you're like, okay, you know, this is part of it. It's very normal, even a top pick.

And then it seemed to get worse. Here's QBR rankings the last four years, 16th, 17th, 17th, 28th. Not great. Just not a lot of year six guys. This is the year. Hey, Liam Cohen, you know, Duvall, what's up? Chiefs, do you buy the offseason? I already know the answer to this, but I just want to ask you.

Do you buy the off-season hype that they needed this Super Bowl loss and they're now hungrier because of the loss? Okay. I know what you think I'm going to do and dismiss any of the public, two of my least favorite words, narrative and discourse. But we had Gronk on and asked him about losing the Philly, and he's like, we were so mad. We were so, especially if you were on offense after that Philly Super Bowl loss. He's like, we were so mad the entire year. So I don't know that anybody's like, hey, I'm really glad we lost that Super Bowl. I guess even last night they shared a bit that Andy Reid had.

said, I don't know it was Jason Garrett, because there was a lot of coverage during that delay where he was like, they felt tight, you know, whatever. It's just weird that this team could be through so many of these seasons and then be tight in a Super Bowl. Like that should, if anybody should feel really comfortable in a Super Bowl, it's Kansas State Chiefs. But it's funny how the Mahomes thing is done like year to year. And then if you look at the full Brady thing, you know, you go, so there was this massive gap

and then they did this or whatever. Like the normal thing is for Mahomes to have. a bunch of disappointments if he's going to do this for 20 years as great as he is and anybody writing them off i would like write off their opinion um so there there's probably more motivation of this than maybe you thought i would give them credit for all right chargers are they closer to the top or the bottom of the division that's really a denver question so i go kc1 and then vegas like what do you like better do you like denver's o line and defense better or do you like harbaw and Herbert better.

I like Harbaugh and Herbert better, even though I can totally understand with the defense, the O line, all that kind of stuff. I mean, there's some unbelievable Denver defensive numbers from last season. You go, hey, Peyton, Nick's year two. I don't think that's a crazy thing to say, but I'll stick with Harbaugh.

Harbaugh and Herbert. So I just go to the Broncos. Now, my question for them was, because I feel like there's no more hype team, maybe the Packers, but there's no more hype team than the Broncos. My question was going to be, do we just like them

because Sean Payton's friends with everyone in the media? but that's not going to be my question. You can answer it anyway. My question is, are they more likely to win the division or finish last?

Because there's people picking them to win the division. Yeah, I've met Peyton millions of times. I would say picking them to win the division is trying to be different. I just don't know

how you would pick anyone over Mahomes ever. Like I'm telling you right now, I'm picking the chiefs with Mahomes to win the division every year. He's there. Penn.

Raiders. I kind of struggle to ask a Raiders question. This might be dumb, but is Gentie in Vegas just Seekwon and the Giants 2.0? I don't think Jentee's Seekwon. I mean, it sounds dismissive of Gentie, but Seekon was like one of the best football players

I've ever seen at Penn State. And it was at Penn State. So, you know, I'm sorry that that factors into a little bit. The draft guys like them just as much. So I just, I can't do that to Seekwine. all right nfc i'll start with the eagles obviously played last night but are they still top to bottom the best team in the NFL yes feels like baltimore could be in the conversation and you know part of the open was just hey look at all these guys on defense all these names all these guys are expected

really good and why are they giving up 20 points to start this game you just say it's week one or whatever but i'll i'll tell you like throughout the game throughout any eagles game when you're just reminded of what the old line is, what the top three receivers are, the tight end, the running back combo, all the different D-line. Now, there could be a little like married to the name and draft pick and brand of where some of these guys have come from, but I think it's the most talented roster. Cowboys, is their offense good enough to get them into the playoffs alone? Yeah. I think we saw that last night. I agree. I think that, I mean, I like that. I'm just going to say I think he's good.

Commanders, would you take Jaden over any NFC quarterback to start a franchise with right now? So only the NFC. So that means... Yeah, so we're taking out Alan, Lamar, Mahomes, like, it's just not fair. So that means Hertz,

Caleb, Jordan Love, Spencer Rattler, probably on that list. And then Purdy, Jackson, Dart. Yeah, if you really, love Jackson Dard. Somebody would say Jackson Dard on a TV show. Just that Gough is older would be, you know, the reason why I'm not listing him here.

Man, it feels really stupid to say what I'm going to say, but I'm still going to take Caleb. I'm going to be stubborn. Wow. That's damn. I did not think you were going to say that. I think, yeah, I would say Jordan Love, if G. Ellen Hertz are probably the two other consensus. guys, but damn. All right, Caleb, not selling any stock. All right, Giants. Is Dave? The entire

NFC, that's one of the dumbest answers I've ever had. Because I turned it into a Jaden Caleb thing. And really, it should be, surprise me. Hertz should be the answer before Caleb. So I'm going to, I change that into an answer that I didn't want it to. So I'll, you're taking, so you're taking Hertz. I would take Hertz. Yeah, even though I still think that there's, a limitation. Well, maybe I'm not even sure if I'm, man, you really got my head on this one. Did you hear that latest or solo podcast? I've never heard of them.

I'm sure of himself. What's going on over there? Yeah, well, it's not Rattler. Love's had one okay year and we got excited about it. Yeah, we'll get to love in a little bit. Yeah, we'll get to like a love question coming up. All right. It kind of feels like Jaden has to be the answer, but I can't take Caleb over hurts. So now I'm just, it's just three different people.

with a gun on each other. So let me just say it hurts. Yeah, it's just kind of the state of the NFC in general, but I think it's a fair answer. All right, Giants, is Daibble a bad coach, or does he just have bad quarterbacks? Speaking of Jackson Dart, maybe he won't have a bad quarterback.

I kind of like Dart. I can't lie. But I only asked this because we love Daibble in Buffalo, right? We loved him. Remember the first year with the Giants, where he was like, this guy, like, oh, man, like he's so great. Everyone was singing his praises because he,

you know, what he did with Daniel, Jones. And then now it's like this guy's an idiot and he's trash. Like I just kind of think it's like he hasn't had a good quarterback since he's been there. Like is that fair to at least just acknowledge and in talking about him overall as a head coach? He's a good coach. He's done a bad job. The team has gone 9 and 7, 6 and 11 to 3 and 14. They're offensive and defensive numbers collectively like they're all in the bottom third on both sides of the ball. I'm sure you can find some number in there that you feel good about, but they're generally overwhelmingly not great and it was a Buffalo offense that it went from 30th and 24th to number two and number five

and then he gets the job. So if Belichick brings him in, if Sabin brings him in, that's enough for me to think that he's to say, hey, he's actually just a terrible head coach, but the results are the results. So I don't think he's terrible, but it's going in the wrong direction. Yeah, that's fair. I mean, I guess they do have a, I mean, their defensive line is insane. So it's not like they don't have guys, but a lot of people kind of sneaky like the Giants this year. Not like to do anything crazy, but maybe go over their win total. But it does see funny that everybody's just waiting for Wilson to lose the job.

Yeah. Yeah. Which has to be a weird spot to be. And then James is just kind of hanging out, just doing James things. What a weird quarterback room. I wonder if they hang out. No. Probably not. Lions. More likely to win the Super Bowl or miss the playoffs?

Win the Super Bowl. The roster. So there's no way that roster, unless they, their defense fell apart health-wise last year. So I love the roster way too much. So I'd say Super Bowl. Packers. Is Jordan Love over, under, or properly rated? I don't know.

I like him, but you mentioned it the one year and he's the, what, he's the second highest paid quarterback in the league. Like there's a lot, there's a lot of, and a lot of people are picking them, him to win MVP, them to make the Super Bowl, to win the Super Bowl. it just feels like there's a lot of Jordan love buying, and I want to buy in, too. I'm just not sure I'm there. But then I think there was a lot of buyout on him last year. I mean, like, this guy sucks, you know, so I don't know if it was an injury thing. The salary things can always be a little frustrating because it's almost like Jalen Brown. Like, this guy has the highest contract. And it's like, okay, but a lot of times it depends on what you're eligible for and when you're eligible for it. So there's always there are always, there are always, ends up being a couple quarterbacks that have an average annual salary based on the timing of their deal. We were like, how come that guy's getting paid more? It was like, okay, it's all because it's all because of when they sign. And then they're going to be surpassed by whoever, because as we know, the cap has gone up. So because there have been such extremes, I would say,

in less than 12 months with him, that means he's properly rated because it feels all over the place. Yeah, equal parts on both sides. Vikings, do you think JJ McCarthy will be good? the draft guys loved him I do think McShay has a good track record with this stuff yes I know he's made mistakes

he didn't need to send him to us but he the more he watched JJ when when Todd was on with us regularly he would come back going man I just watch

this JJ like there were moments where I think he was surprised how impressed he was because we know in Michigan he just wasn't asked to do that much

so it was harder for me because it wasn't like an evaluator of this whole thing it's like well you don't really need him because of the defense, the way they run the football, and Michigan's approach that year

winning a national championship. So then you add in that this team, by the way, you want to talk about, has there ever been a team that went 14 and 3 that people hate more than the Vikings? Because when it fell off the way it did, the last two games, it's like, yep, this team's a fraud.

Donald sucks. They can't actually do this. And then Donald moves on. Do you know how much they must think of JJ to make that decision for a team that went 14 and 3? despite how disappointing and it felt like being exposed. It wasn't just that they were losing games.

It was like the entire season was exposing these frauds. But wasn't that the best case scenario, that game, where they just get absolutely embarrassed in their first playoff game? And it's like, all right, well, okay, now we were on the fence. And now, like, now we have an easy out to just go to the guy we drafted, you know, in the first round, you know, this year. So I actually think they kind of got a little get out of jail free card there because they didn't have to pay Darnold.

And I think people just think the Donald to Seattle thing is going to be a mess too. So this is based more on the circumstantial evidence that for everything that they've done, whether it's drafting them and then making this move after this and then some of the draft guys, like on second viewing of JJ on a breakdown and not just watching Michigan games on Saturday, it seems like a lot of smart people think this guy's going to be really good. And I would probably go to that as opposed to just me watching him play at Michigan because he just, again, wasn't asked to do a ton. All right.

Let's pick up the pace. Bears. Have you thought about becoming a Bears fan again with Ben Johnson at the helm? Thought about it. Obviously, I'm still holding out to this Caleb stuff. But I don't know. That was a tough one. That was a tough one last year. Like, I'm getting way too mad about challenges, not challenges. I hadn't felt that way in a long time. And I was like, I don't know if I like this. I kind of miss it, but I don't know if this is healthy. So I might just fair weather this one. Talk to me week 10. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. Bucks, can they actually win the NFC? Never get enough credit. I feel like a real stable franchise,

but I don't see them at the Philly level. I don't see them at the Detroit level. You know, I don't know what to do with Minnesota, but I would say at least Philadelphia and Detroit. I mean, sure, can they, but it feels like there's two teams that have, better rosters that are in their way and it's like are you going to get through that you're going to get through maybe you get lucky and you only have to face one of them um and likely would be on the road but yeah they don't get enough credit but it doesn't mean that i have to then pick them to win the nfc to prove how like what a hipster i am i've seen a few people taking it surprised me uh good for them love baker but yeah good for them uh falcons is this the year kyle pit breaks out now i'm just kidding uh is this falcon situation yeah you were serious yeah it's like who

no we had a but we do this like collective this will be this will be quick we do this collective thing where all my buddies take a future and we parlay it so it basically like we track it throughout the year and one of my buddies was like man I really like Kyle Pitts 750 plus yards I was like I was like I will not be putting any of my hard-earned money on a parlay with Kyle Pitts it out like I'm just drawing the line here I'm not being a bad friend I just feel like I feel like we can't do this I think you're right I can't believe somebody still too I mean this is going to be that's going to be the Trevor Lawrence thing. Do you think if he has another

below average season, there'll be somebody on a national network that'll be like, I think this is a year Trevor Lawrence breaks out. Second year in this system. Yeah. Yeah, Liam Cohen's got his hands on him again. There'll be something. My actual Falcons question is like they're Ross, they're at least on offense.

Like they've got some dues. Like Drake, Bajon, it's Bajon now, right? Yeah. The offensive line's pretty good. I like Mooney. is this Falcon's situation on offense actually the best situation

of any of the first round quarterbacks last year for Penix um so you're talking like obviously JJ

with KOC in Minnesota with Justin I don't think we put the bears in there Jaden I don't think his situation's awesome it's fine but I don't I don't think he has

the weapons that Pennix has who else am I missing Bo Nix yeah but I mean he gets, he gets, you know, Sean Payton, good offensive line. I don't think you can put anything, I mean, because nobody looked at Jaden's situation last year was like, what a great situation. We actually would, if we were going to rank it of all of these quarterbacks

that were taken in the first half of the first round, that was going to be near the bottom. I mean, Drake Mays probably had to be the worst after that, you know, Belichick roster that they were bringing in. It just feels like I don't know this because I'll play Madden but it feels like like the Falcons would be like a fun team

that dudes would just use on Madden online because they just got a lot of dudes that are fun to play with. Yeah, is it Bo Nix because of the O line? And Peyton, yeah. And Peyton. Bo Nix and Peyton.

I would go with that even though you're right, the fun things, the fun toys. It seems like Atlanta has them more than, but it's not like Chicago, whether it's the investment in the O line this year or what you thought they had. It's like, hey, look what they did at tight end. Look what they've done in receiver here. They grab, you know, they draft Rome. Now we're taking too long on all this

thing. I really like the question, but I think I'm going to go Denver's O line and Peyton being your mentor. Panthers. Will Bryce ever be an above average NFL quarterback? Yes. Wow. Okay. I hope so. I like them. Saints, is there any reason to pay attention to this team at all? Yeah, their home games are fun, and a lot of NFL stadiums suck. Okay. Rams, is Sean McVeigh the best coach at the NFL? Not resume, not like whatever. Like, it's just like, is he just, I think he's the best coach in the NFL right now.

I don't know if you agree. I was reading a Nate Tice piece on Yahoo. And by the way, his stuff is just terrific. Like he explained the evolution of all the Shanahan coaching tree things and then talked about, like, this is kind of what their default setting was. And then this is how they've changed some of the running schemes and kind of like went off on all the different branches. And like anybody that studies McVeigh, they're, they're kind of in awe of. And even if you felt like, okay, you know, you go back to the Super Bowl where I feel like Belichick just completely figured him out.

And he was a little bit too predictable. But yeah, I don't, I mean, Andy Reid is tough to compete with, especially when you're talking resume and with all that stuff. The recency part of it, I don't know that I've ever heard anyone say like Nick Siriani is now the best. best head coach but I wouldn't somebody's didn't somebody just say nick seriani and hurts or the modern day brady and belichick it's like we got to we got to calm down a little bit too much tv time to too many hours to fill yeah i don't know you got like 18 years and a handful of super bowls but they're right there ony last year yeah yeah yeah everybody thought this guy's going to be gone by week eight although i would say when bellichick was hired in new england there wasn't

necessarily people thinking that was going to happen so uh yeah i'm going to i'm going to say McVeigh. And I can't be, I can't tell anybody else they're wrong about maybe two or the three other options, but he's on the short list. Forty-niners, this is a wild stat. Since 2003, they've either missed the playoffs or made the NFC championship game. So which one is more likely? Make the NFC. Yeah. Why do their players always get hurt every, every year? It's like, it's unbelievable. It's just, yeah, I'd be pretty bummed if I was a, I don't know. They're pretty thin, man.

If they lose a couple guys like they always do, I don't know. I was buying into them earlier. Then now I'm just like, stay away. That's just for betting purposes. All right, Cardinals, and we may have done this before, but I'm just going to do it again. Is Kyler Murray the Trey Young of the NFL? We're going to do this again, where we do the quarterbacks and NBA players. I don't know, maybe we get it a couple weeks.

I think it's kind of fun to go back and look at all this stuff. I don't know that Arizona fans love Trey Young. as much as Atlanta fans love Trey Young. Okay. And to be fair to Trey, he's at least done something, had one playoff run, which is, you know, some of those playoff runs, conference finals appearance can be really misleading. They can be a little fluky. But, you know, he was the most comfortable player on the floor during that Philadelphia series

and kind of wrecked, you know, that might be the end of like the Philadelphia thing. And we didn't, we were years, years ahead of it. happening, but who knows. Then they lose to Milwaukee, not that big of the deal, but there's a defense of Trey in Atlanta that I would say exceeds a defense of Kyler Murray in Arizona.

And Kyler, who, you know, I've gone through the cycles of it of, I have no idea, hey, I actually really kind of like this guy. Then I really didn't like him. I can't quit. You can't quit him. I just, I play. Yeah, Trey plays. So I don't,

And I don't like Trey, so I'm like being a hypocrite. Totally. I get it. I just don't know why I like Kyler. I do. I don't think Kyler's done enough to actually be considered a Trey, despite how we both feel about Trey. So, yeah, a little pro-Trey young stuff for you here in September. All right.

Last one, Seahawks. I kind of struggled with this one, but I guess is it more likely they're a playoff team or a total disaster with Sam Darnold? I have no idea what to do with this roster. I don't either. whatsoever. So I would say more likely that it doesn't work out. Good defense. Yeah, there's some guys in the defense that I do really like. Shout out to Witherspoon. Shout out to Aligni football. Yes. Shout out to Smallman. Smallman. Yeah, exactly. She's excited. They're back.

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embargoes apply commercial use excluded i'm excited to do this we love having them on we'll have them on throughout the football season it's willie cologne s n y and you're doing some good morning football right with nflb network yeah i'm jumping on good morning football i'm actually on monday and tuesday of next week and uh i've been doing a lot of stuff with first things first nick wright's crew wilds and uh brousad um and danny parkins so i've been jumping on there with them and, you know, tis the season. It's about that time. So I'm excited.

You ever spit on anybody? Bro. No. Come on. It's egregious. No, I've never spit on them. I've never hated nobody enough. That's not true.

But I've never, I've never, I've never spit on anybody. You know, I played in one of the most fiercest rivalries in all the sports between Steelers and Ravens, where it was like real deal, hatred for each other. But respect. and like even out back and forth we said a lot of unchristian-like things but I never thought or even had the thought of just cocking my lips back and spinning on anybody that's just just a wild just it's just the most dehumanizing thing you can do to another man so it's just it's a wild it was wild to see that happen after another

after another guy meeting one of your teammates was literally on the floor injured right It was just like the transition from the injury right out the gate to that happening. Jail and Hurts getting ejected and then like here, you know, football NFL season underway was just like, I don't think you could have predicted a better script, not better, but it was just like it was just didn't expect it to go that way. So it was, it was wild. Yeah, I mean, it was kind of, it made more sense, though, after seeing the DAC part of it, even if it's a massive overreaction because it just looked like a completely unprompted. you're just spitting on Dack because you guys are jawing a bit.

So even though it didn't look like Dack was trying to spit on him, I at least felt like, okay, well, I understand the origin of this a little bit better. I still don't. Like, there's a difference between spinning in somebody's direction and then getting sped on. You know what I mean? Like, that's just a different, just different, at least how I perceive it was just different. Nevertheless, I don't even think Dack is dumb enough to spit on the best defender of the Eagles, who you know you have to see for four quarters.

Like, why would you wake up that giant? You know what I mean? Just from a gamesman standpoint. And I don't even think that's in Dax real house. Like, I don't think he's capable of having that type of venom in his blood. So I believe that. I watched his pressure at the end of it. And everything he said makes sense.

I mean, I've been in huddles. Well, I've spit all over the place. You know, and I was one of the guys, anytime I was in a huddle, I'd never, you know, face the quarterback. I always have my back to the quarterback and listen to him talking. I always kept my eyes on the defense because I wanted to see personnel change, right? And so I was always facing the defense.

I never, if you go back to any of my tapes, especially with the Jets, Steelers, I always was looking at the defense and had my back to the quarterback. And I would just hear everybody talking or saying X, Y, Z, and then I would just play on. So, and I would always be, you know, going back and forth with a guy.

And I never, and I would never see, one, I never even thought about spitting his direction, nor spit on them. But it was just people spit. It's football. We're men. Like, that's just, a lot of us are spitter. I'm a spitter, so it is what it is. Let's talk Philly's defense. I don't know if there's some definitive statement after this,

and Carter going down and then having the two D-tackles had to play like a ton of snaps. I mean, it's, what, 60 plus snaps they're trying to make up for with Carter not being out there. I mean, I'm kind of taking a guess at what a snap total will be for a main guy like that, but especially somebody that's bigger. Usually we look at the defense being ahead of what you think it's ahead of behind the offense. It was just weird with all this personnel that I think we all collectively love for Philadelphia. Again, I don't think there's a definitive statement after one game last night, whatever, and then the delay on top of everything else.

But there's a lot of guys on that Philly defense, and I was surprised to see Dallas move the ball so effortlessly against them. Yeah, it was interesting. I was really hoping for the secondary of the Eagles to show up. I know they had Quentin O'Nichael at the, you know, he's the number one corner. He was guarding George Pickinson. You know, I knew Fanjo was going to, you know, he likes to match zone with his junk. quarters. I know that's for a fact. And I just expected more of an impact right out

the gate. It seemed like once Jalen Carter got ejected, they seemed lost and bewildered a little bit. And I knew there was going to be regression from a sack point, from, you know, or a pass rush standpoint, because, you listen, they don't have burning ram. They've lost some, they lost some key pieces on defense aligned, but. Yeah, like two other pieces too. Right. And so that outfit of, from what we've seen last season, compared to what we saw last night, I walked the, from that feeling like, man, the Eagles are in trouble. Like, they don't, they, they need more, they need more lead in their pencil.

If they really want to kind of do this thing again, offensively, I think they look right on par. I know Dickerson got hurt. Excuse me, Juergens, or Dickerson, the left guard got hurt. Dickerson, yeah. So I know he got hurt, so that's going to hurt him. But overall, I thought the offense looked right on par. I thought the defense looked like they regressed.

What did you think of Dax Night? I thought it looked good, man. He looked lean and trim. I mean, C.D. Lamb owes this man, like a steak dinner, like a Rolex. I mean, he just, oh, like that couldn't have played any better than what he played last night. I thought he was efficient. I thought he was, you know, very decisive with the football, excuse me. I just liked him.

I liked everything that he was able to do. I thought he stood alive in a pocket. I know that one time it looked like Jordan Davis was going to get him down on a sack. He was able to get out of that and kind of make a. which was great. So I was worried about him. There's one time when he scrambled out of pocket, man, and you tell he was trying to dig and dig and dig,

and I think he slid. And I was like, man, he's going to end up pulling his hamstring. You know, we forget that this dude is literally coming off torn hamstring. But you tell he was just, he was in fighting trim, man. If you're a Cowboys fan, you have to wake up this morning feeling good about what you saw out of him specifically, right? And I thought that, you know, Cowboys have a young office line. I thought they battled, man.

I thought they stood up valid. They didn't have Jalen Carter, so you can't make a full assessment. But for a young group, I thought they stood strong and competed in Fort Hart. For all the shit, Dak takes on those like 330 yard games. We're like, cool, another 330 yard game, pick at the end, take the loss. And now you're going to end up with like the second most yards and the season and all that kind of stuff. Because I'm convinced, like, Dak will retire and we'll still never feel comfortable about thinking about where he slots in with his peers. but I'm glad you said that.

I thought he was really good last night. I mean, there's some spots. I think there was the throw to the end zone where maybe he could have taken the decision underneath. Although I think it was described in the broadcast as like a short first down. And I think the time that I think it was a tight end

would have caught turned it. There was still like a defender of beat. So I'm not sure that I agreed that it was a certainty he was going to get first down. What about that one ball he threw to Ferguson? He almost got Ferguson decapitated. I was like, ugh. But it was third and 22, you know.

And on first in 22, he went to Ferguson. And I'm like, I think the aggressiveness, you know, you have to take that. Like there was another play where it was a big down where it looked like he probably could have just run out for the first down to the right side. But like ultimately in the NFL, you're going to have to figure out a way to beat everybody from the pocket. So I think his overall aggressiveness, despite not gaudy, DAC numbers that everybody kind of dumps out even when he gets him if they don't win the game. I'm with you. Like I think there's far more bright spots and the fact that, you know, CD becomes the target after that drop, not on the fourth down throw.

The first down throw, the deep shot, that's the one. So at least, you know, DAC would probably escape all the local blaming the quarterback coverage on a Friday morning. Yeah. And I also think, you know, I was, I thought we were going to see. And I thought from a protection standpoint, you know, they did a lot of six-man protection because I think it was trying to counter what the Eagles were going to try to do from a blitz standpoint. But I thought the Cowboys had a great game plan, man. I thought they

looked good. They ran the ball. They were physical. Sucked at Miles Sanders, fumbled that ball. I thought he was actually going to get in on that drive with him in Gray, X Eagle. He ended up kind of coughing it up. And I think Collinsworth did a great job. If that doesn't get that tackle or that's going to the crib, right? There's nobody stopping him. So overall, man, I I think a lot of people are frustrated. CD didn't have the best game valid, but from DAC, offensively, from an officer standpoint,

even defensively, I thought they kind of bucked up towards the end of the game. I thought the delay kind of, you know, took the win out of their sales a little bit. But overall, you know, I was encouraged by the Cowboys play. I didn't walk out of there feeling like, oh, man, you know,

Cowboys are in for a long season. It seems like a lot of people better kind of, you know, reassess who they really are. And I think they kind of did a good job of promoting themselves in a positive way last night. I don't know what CED is supposed to do. in that spot. That's the goddamn bald,

as you supposed to. What do you mean? I'm talking about after. You know, the Cowboy sucks chance go. It's Philly. He's got the thumbs up. And it's like at that point,

no one's taking his side. It's not like he's losing his mind. You know, he's clearly disappointed. I guess I would wonder, like in your playing days, you're an offensive lineman. So you're probably not going up to anybody,

but maybe later on in your career in a leadership role. Like, I almost would be more, bothered by a bunch of teammates coming up to show me how great of a teammate they are by trying to say like the right thing for the most part it's just like leave me the fuck alone man like i'm already i'm already dealing with it it's enough did you have anything like that where there was a guy that was like the worst to go up to uh when you were just trying to be a good

teammate oh that's a good question do i have no i you know not really um nobody i can honestly think of right now. I know we had a guy, I may have mentioned them before, and he was a part of our Super Bowl running. We had a receiver out of Texas by the name of Lyman Swede, who had the case of a drops, man. Now, this kid was a freak athlete. Like he, I mean, there's nothing he physically couldn't do on this planet. I mean, run, jump, skip, whatever. He was a freak athlete, man. But he has some significant drops and some important situations of, in games when we were making our run in a Super Bowl. And it messed with him mentally, man. It really did. I remember, I think we were playing the Bengals and he was at the X and he ran like a deep post and he was able to kind of break

the top of the defense and he got through and Ben lets it fly like it's like a moon ball and it hits him like right right in the bread basket and he doesn't drop in the ball but on the next day the post because I would sometimes grab the paper in the locker room or on the way home they have him ball going through the hands his eyes are like looking somewhere else and I did the paper just crushed him. And from that point on, the kid was his mental state was not good. Like, it was rough. I remember being really, really rough for him from a mental standpoint. And, uh, but yet, you know, if you go into that, I think our Air Force championship game against the Ravens in, in 08, he has some key blocks in that game. And he, I think he almost knocked

out Cori Avi, who was a DB for the Ravens at the time. So, um, it, but I've seen like those type with drops, like not just hinder a guy physically, but mentally, they can't get out of their own way. So it was, that's the only thing I've seen. But as far as like going up to a guy and kind of talk them out of it, every guy has usually been pretty receptive to that. Some guys need that. Who's your Super Bowl pick? Oh, I'm, I ain't going to bullshit you, Ryan. I don't know. I wish I could sit here and give you one of these like, oh, the Buffalo Bills. And I can see Well, let's figure it out. We can do it. We'll do it together right now. I struggle because I think the Ravens are knocking at the door

and I think Buffalo's knocking at the door. Those are my, I don't see the Chiefs knocking at the door. I don't. I think the Chiefs, I think we're going to witness an end of an era with the Chiefs this year. And I know a lot of people think I'm absolutely bonkers for saying that. I do. Yeah.

But I'm looking at, I think the Chiefs start. But don't you like, okay, I mean, are you trying to be different or are you just going like, hey, this is the way sports work, it's cyclical. And when you say end of an era, I assume you mean this group around Mahomes that would then be re, re, you know, like reinvented three or four years in Mahomes is still there. I mean, this, I guess I'm trying to answer for you.

I think to your point, I think the group as a whole, I just don't think when you look at the receiving corps, she writes down to suspensions, Hollywood Browns off and on, they've lost, I think they've lost their identity as far as running the ball. I mean, he was sacked 36 times last season. I mean, I think they were 15th in scoring. You know, there was a, from two, you know, from 18 and 19, when I thought Patrick Mahomes was like, man, this kid is Jesus Christ and cleats. Like, I mean, in 2018, he threw 50 touchdowns and threw four over 5,000 yards. We forget the AFC championship.

They were off sides away from going to the Super Bowl, right? And they rallied, they bounced back in 19 and won the damn thing against the Niners. But I think last year was just a step back. So a lot of people was like, Willie, they were in a goddamn Super Bowl last year. What are you talking about? But they, they, I mean, they were. what? There were four points in a missed field, a block field away from being a, what, three and eleven or something like that?

You know what? So it's like they were 11 and 0 and one score game. So it's hard for me to believe that that magic and miracle luck that happened last year is going to happen this year. I just don't believe it. So I don't look at them as like, not that they're not a threat, but I have the Broncos winning that division. I think the Broncos are going to be better than them. So that's just my pick as far as that division. But I see Buffalo knocking on the door and it opens up

and they land in the Super Bowl on the AMC side. NFC side, I think it's still, I think Detroit has to happen for Detroit this year. I think more than never, especially with losing

the masterminds of Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn. I still think they got more than enough. I think golf is due. So I got Detroit and Buffalo if I had to really make a choice right now. Why Buffalo over Baltimore? that's a good question um no one isn't i mean it's just i know the answer the answer is i don't

know for i mean we keep it in a buck yeah i don't know i just i think i think josh island i like josh allen the way he's been playing i mean he's been an MVP candidate for like the last four four something year four or five years um i think i think i don't know i'm just going buffalo and maybe it's part of my bias i'm a stealer i would never root for the ravens so that's a maybe some hatred in my blood because of that. But that's it. I like Josh Allen. I like the fact that they paid James Cook.

They got that out the way. I think Keenan Coma's going to make a jump in year two. So we'll see. Shakur, I think he's going to be solid. And you've still got Kincaid company. Yeah, I'm simply just trying to do something different, although I'm less involved in the momentum of, like, you know, the obituary for the Kansas City.

chiefs. And I mean the obituary of basically like defaulting to them. So I feel like I'm just picking somebody else and picking Buffalo the simple, like, you know, I've already kind of said it and some of the other stuff that we've done where I don't know if they're going to be able to repeat the O line continuity. There's certainly, it'd be mathematically impossible to recreate what they did on the turnover margin thing. But going into 24 with some of the decisions they had made for financial reasons, it felt like 24 was going to be more of like a reset year building this year 25. So, you know, everyone's sitting here end of August, beginning of September, assuming best case scenarios for health. And that's kind of like the Niners thing all over again. And then it depends on what you want to look at. Like most games lost, most injured and all these different kinds of things. Like the Niners feel like they deal with this in just traumatic fashion like every other year with them. But Buffalo is just, hey, it's it's their kind of time where. That's how I feel. Yeah. And when you talk about like some of the Mahal, stuff, like the offensive line play alone last year that then came to a head in the Super

Bowl, to me, that speaks of like Mahomes' greatness to still figure out ways to get some of the stuff going where there were Sundays. They were money good in a situation of football. I do not want to take that away from them. And they were solid in the red zone. But I think I, like I said, I fell in love from a football standpoint of their production in 18 and 19, right? And so when you talk about what they were last year, they skid it by.

I do a lot, right? Yeah, sure. So that's just my perception of what they were last year and what they're going to roll into and look like this year or shit tonight against the charges. So that's just me. I know a lot of people are just like, you're bugging, which is cool.

So, but I just, I think we're watching the defiance of the chiefs. You think Denver, with all the, like, you just love that defense and don't line that much. Man, I'm a sucker for Nick Mineta. I watched that kid last year, and I was just like, I mean, he's a Swiss Army knife. I hate using that because that's like the cliche thing to say for a guy that I could do a lot on the field, especially on the defensive side of the ball. But when you watch this kid cover, when you watch his instincts,

when you just watch him just be a football player or if he's coming off the edge and he's versatile in that, and that's from that aspect, I think he's a complete package. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a defensive player a year. Like, I expect him to have that type of output this year. And it helps that he just got paid, too. So hopefully, you know, he matches with his play. His play matches the contract he just received. What's your expectation for your Steelers?

What's my expectation for my Steelers? Listen, I have them making the playoffs. You know, I have them, you know, the question is once they get in, what's next? I think that's always going to be, I think they have more than enough on defense. I think the relationship between Aaron Rogers and John News Smith is going to be interesting to me. I know he's going to get the ball to D.K. I think that's going to be a factor.

That's going to be a part of the game script each and every week. But how effective can he use John New? And, you know, they have an office line that's young. You know, Broderick Jones and Troy Fontenews, they're really starting to come along. And I just, it's going to be a lot to see. It's going to be interesting to see how Aaron handles everything around. Young office line, two new pieces. with John Newell and D.K.

And from a health standpoint, how does he hold up? You know, because so much has been talked about his health the last two years. You know, I had the opportunity to be in training camp, excuse me, go to training camp this summer. And I'm going to be honest, though, he looked good. And I'm not just saying that I'm not trying to be a homer. I'm not trying to, I'm just from a guy who was on the field watching him do his thing. He looked healthy. Man, he looked good.

He was, you know, sure, it's good to look good in practice, but he also didn't participate in the pre-season. and I understand that. But just from a guy who I watched it prior, you know, the last two years and with the Jets, you know, this is a guy that looked like he got, if he rubbed the fountain of youth, like he put his hands in the fountain of youth a little bit. So we'll see.

I thought he looked good. He looked like he lost a couple pounds. He looks like, he reminds me how a DAC looked last night. He looks real trim and fit. He has like a different look about him. So I think, yeah, you know, I don't know if this is going to be his last year,

but if it is from getting off the bus, you know, that look test, I thought he looked really good. You always wonder about his personality and how it gels, but he's such a legend that, you know, sometimes it's like, all right, you don't have to be everybody's favorite guy. Like, just go out there, be the gunslinger on Sunday. I think he's okay with that, too, Ryan. Because, but I mean, I'm saying this as a positive. He's at an age now where, you know, it's one thing if you're like 32 and you're the new guy trying to resurrect your career and then maybe you're not always the easiest dude, you know, and again, maybe that's his enlightened.

interpretation of the world where you know some guys are just like what the fuck you're talking about it doesn't mean he's a bad guy or anything it's just like you're the way you talk about things like whatever i just want to fucking tackle somebody you know what i mean now he's so much older i almost think that that's a positive as far as the the personality chemistry thing because it's just like hey man we don't like we don't have to see i i on anything because i'm already expecting that there's not going to be that much of a connection so it was just something i was kind of thinking about because I do think that over the years, and maybe that's what's made him great, is that he kind of thinks everybody's against him.

What does it help when every time you turn on a damn TV, somebody's either going at what he's done in the offseason or what he's done in the locker room or if he's, if he's, you know, there's the whole Mike Williams situation where he felt like you kind of threw him underneath the bus, you know, and there's a magnitude of things that kind of build up around his name and who he is as a person. I mean, I do like the fact that when you watch a lot of his interviews, I think I was watching and the reporter brought up some comments Terry Bradshaw made.

And the first things out of Aaron Rogers' mouth was, well, first off, Terry Bradshaw doesn't know me, but if he got to know me, he would know X, Y, Z. And I thought it was poignant because it's true. A lot of us kind of, we have these flipping and kind of aggressive and kind of these, you know, these, and by the way, I've done it. You know what I mean? So let me not pull myself off. out of a, you know, out of the car that I've said in with multiple people talking about a man.

I've never had one conversation with or about, you know, with who he is overall. But I just thought it was kind of a moment. I remember watching the interview. I'm like, he's right. Like, we know nothing about this, man, other than what he's able to do on the field. And off the field, everything is reported, right? And so I gave him, I had to give, I give him grace in that aspect. Like, I think we got to pause a little bit.

because we don't know what Aaron Rogers has gone through or what he's been through everything he's been reported you can talk about the Achilles you can talk about

you know his will to come into New York last season and really revamp and change the culture and how all that failed and but I like

at the same time I gave him a lot of credit you know when he got to the Jets I thought he did a great job of immersing himself into the city he was going to next game

showing up that Yankee games hanging out with sauce gardener eating pizza like he was like he was turning himself into New Yorker when the, when a lot of people was ready to kill him,

because they didn't think he would, like, lower him, not lower himself, or he would even put himself in that position. But he did, and things just didn't go the way he planned or the Jets played, uh, plan, excuse me. So, um, yeah, I, I, I just, it's interesting to see what happens with him in the black and gold. I think he's, I think I, I'm assuming it's going to go well.

We'll see that. I'm going bills too in the AFC, uh, as we've already covered here. And, you know, A lot of the times, I'm just like, all right, is there a different way to, like, be different about it, right? Whether that's Detroit. People love Green Bay. And I don't know if that's- But you haven't mentioned Green Bay yet.

No, because I feel like we're going to do more NFC right now. I'm picking Philly to get back there, Buffalo Beats Philly in the Super Bowl. So there's my pick, official pick. I put so much thought for the entire thing. Green Bay, I was looking at Mike Sando, who you have a mound for the quarterback. here is, you know, I think this is probably the second time I've wrested him today at the pop, but he had eight executives, you know, go through and do the AFC and do the NFC. And I think Green Bay ended up being second. I was like, okay, this is like turning into the

classic recency bias of like they added Micah Parsons, but he'd like further explain. I think five of the people had voted before the Parsons trade had even happened. Going into last year, I loved Green Bay. I still think Jordan Love, I just have a hard time believing like he's this huge a mistake. No. The receiving group, I was, I was thinking like, man, there's like four of these guys that I like. And maybe it never quite felt like any of them obtained some status or I should say

attained status of like, okay, that guy's like the clear number one. Maybe they don't need that clear number one out of, out of this entire group. There's a lot of guys. Danny Reed is trying to get paid. So he needs to step out. Yeah. I think I just looked at them thinking. like, okay, in 23, whenever I'd watch

Packers game, it would have a week, and then the next week it would be this guy, and then it would be, so then going into 24, I'm like, look at this group, this is really good. It's still considered one of these overall groups, but I actually think I picked them to make the Super Bowl last year, and love, even when he was playing,

it just felt like a different guy. Like, now you're a mistake guy. Like, that felt like the thing that I could bank on, especially if the Packers, maybe it was the need of just the quarterback and how most franchises, but maybe it was it was me giving them too much of the benefit it out. I'm like, if the Packers are willing to

step up and just lock this up now, they must know that he's the guy. Well, one, I think from a Jordan Love standpoint, I think it's on Jordan Love to really kind of have this big time breakout season, right? Like, from this standpoint, I think

if he stays healthy and he just stops with the dumb turnovers, right? Like, sometimes you just look at him and do things. Like, man, that was unnecessary. You didn't have to do that. I think he's even talked about... I didn't think he was going to be with that kind of guy. And last year was alarming, right?

Right. But even if you go back from like week 11 and 17, I mean, he had like a 65% completion rate. Like he was humming at a high level. But prior to that, man, he was just so streaky and so many things. And I felt like he was dealing with the hand and all this other nonsense.

But when he's on, he's on. And you're like, man, this kid can go. I think he's even admitted through some interviews that I've watched of him, which is wild because we're asking him to be healthier, that he wants to use his legs more to kind of get him out of a tough situation. I'm like, kid, I don't know if you've seen your injury sheet. I don't know if that's the smartest things to do.

But overall, I do think if you talk about me liking the Packers to make a run, yes, I see it. But I think it all comes down to Jordan Love and which Jordan Love shows up each and every Sunday. I like the defense led by Halfley. I like the fact that they got Micah. You know, Van Ness, I think he's, I'm 50, 50 on him overall. But I think they're still a good defense.

They're going to be a good defense. I mean, they got McKinney. I think he's solid as he comes. So I think they have more than enough. I love the office line, big, strong. They're physical. Josh Jacob is a dog. So, you know, they have enough to make a run.

They just have to do it. And it all goes down to which Jordan Love shows up. Yeah, I'm kind of looking at it again as we're going over in some of the advanced stuff. And like the bad throw percentage is higher than it's been. The interception percentage is, is higher than it's been, but then there's some numbers. You realize he was actually better last year than he was this first full season. I think it was that first full season in 23.

You're like, oh, this is really great to build on. And because that didn't happen, then it's, you know, again, treated like a huge disappointment and the fact that he had the big contract as well. So I understand the Green Bay momentum, but it can't look like that again from the quarterback, even with all the other guys that I like for me to then go, okay, there's the Philly tier, which I think should be its own tier. There's a Detroit part of it. You know, I don't know if Washington like that, that defense,

I just, it's so exciting. Right. Go ahead. I mean, they just don't have enough on the edge for them to say, like, all right, this defense is going to be legit. You just don't. So you just, and you're praying that Jaden Daniels has another significant year like he had in his first year. You just traded Brian Robinson, Jr. to the Niners, right?

So it was like there's some holes. I mean, they were able to kind of patch up the office line, which I think is going to be better than what it was last year. But we got to see. I think there's still a legit question mark around the commanders. Just because, you know, they, and I think they have, what, 75 million? I don't know what it is now. But I think in the start of training camp, I think they had like 75 million in cap space.

So there's still room to grow. They just got to beef up the roster. But I think it all comes down to, you know, Can they make another magical ride? I don't know. I think people underestimate how much Jaden Daniels rushed last year. Like he was their leading rusher, which is telling to me for a division that, you know, has some really good runnerbacks.

Yeah, in the beginning of the year with the Jaden default to run thing, I was like, okay, this is great and it's working and they're winning these close games. Like that Giants game was when early on, it's like, hey, look what this guy did. I was like, you guys thought that that was a good game? And then he just kept getting better and better and better. The Cincinnati throw, you know, the Chicago game, and then the next thing you know, they're winning a playoff game at Detroit.

But the Philly game, I think that's where he really stamped when you put the league on notice, when he was able to come back and win that game. Yeah, that was sick. Maybe it was because of the injuries on Philly side that I don't think of that. But I'm, like, going through his entire year, I remember just thinking, okay, but is he going to just talk it and run every time because then this guy's going to end up getting killed and then it turned into like

full composure all of these throws a guy you can trust so now it was so impressive as a rookie you're kind of sitting there going what's he going to do like are they are they now a team that you go okay they have that part of it figured out and now we expect him to do really big things and the fact that they just want a playoff game with this group another thing too that i always forget to is jane's 24 he's 25 in December oh i didn't know that yeah So, yeah, but the maturity, the part of it of, you know, why he looks so comfortable. I don't know if that's college and experience and playing in big time games or the fact that he's like, yeah, I'm just a much older guy. I'm not.

I don't fool about what you kids. I'm a grown man out here. Which of the quarterbacks? Let me ask you this. I'll give you Cam Ward, because Rudy asked me a version of this question. I'll give you Cam Ward, Caleb Williams. Drake May Bryce Young ranked them

for who you would want Can Ward Bryce Young Did you want a pen? I'm trying to remember I'm trying to test my memory Which I struggle with Off the Rip, right?

I can barely remember my own name sometimes He just gave you five quarterbacks We'll do it again I'm here for you buddy We can there's no You don't have to hear it just once This isn't it's Cam

it's Caleb it's Bryce and it's Drake May so I'm giving you I'm giving you unknowns kind of still I mean certainly Cam's an unknown he hasn't even played yes I'm gonna go Cam at 5 um I'm just giving you four I think okay maybe see I can't even fucking count

so I got I got Cam at 4 um Bryce so this is gonna be wild and I'm playing in my head so I'm going Cam at 4 I'm going Drake May at 3

I got Caleb at 2 and I got Bryce Young at 1 You would want Bryce over anyone from that group moving forward now I think the way Bryce Young finished last season

I think the way what this man's been through I just something in my stomach say he's going to have one of them seasons were like let's kind of turn this disc bastard

let's turn you know like you had the old hip hop CDs as you like man this shit is trash and you put it back on a long car ride. Do you find yourself jamming to? That's how I feel about Bryce Young.

I think we've all thrown him away as this kind of throwaway quarterback. And then I watched him towards the last end of last season. And I'm like, man, this kid may have some. Like we felt, we loved him in Alabama. And then I watched him last year. And I'm just like, oh, okay. And by the way, I'm a Caleb fan. But I think there's going to be so much expectation on him to deliver,

especially with Ben Johnson, Duse. you're talking about DJ Moore. You're talking about Loveland. There's going to be so much on him to produce. I worry about the kid from a neck up level. Is he built to handle that pressure? I'm not worried about his skill set. I think the kid has everything you need.

I'm going to worry about from the neck up. Can he step into this role and really be what they need to be? I think it's unfair also for Bears fans, think this is a rubber stamp situation where you look at what Detroit did with Ben Johnson and that squad and think he's going to be exactly the same way

in Chicago. Like, we're bugging, right? People don't understand Detroit got some dudes, man. Like the Sonica knuckle situation, same Brown, you talk about La Porter, one of the most best office lines

in football. Like, they got a squad, right? I think they got like five pro bowlers and six all pros or the other way around, but they got some legit guys in Detroit. And I think Bears fans

was like, well, just take Ben Johnson, just take the brain. You got Caleb. It's going to work. And I'm just like, I don't know. I know they got the whole new,

you know, they got tuning. They got Jonah Jackson on the office line. And so they've made some improvements. I just don't know what Ben Johnson did in Detroit is exactly going to happen in Chicago. And I worry about Caleb from the neck up. And that neck down, I think he has all the attributes. He'd do a lot.

But from the neck up, I don't know if he's going to be as efficient as Jared Gough, who was number one against the blitz last season. You know what I mean? So I just, I'm just, that's where my head is in. I like that. I watch so much college and get to see a lot of these guys, and I wonder, and I'm going to ask, maybe it's going to pivot into kind of like a Ben Rothesberger question, but I wonder if there's these great quarterback talents, but so much of it is predetermined, you know, Saturday, as much as I love it, like, all day long, clap, look to the sideline. Right. You know, and it's like, okay, I'm checking, and it's like, whatever, how they're signaling it, this is what you want to look for or whatever.

there might be less like freedom. And I'm not even talking about like play calling or checking into anything, but just the lack of freedom of vision of like, I'm only supposed to look for this one thing. If the safety does this, then it's this throw. And if the safety does this, then it's this throw. And like, at no point, yeah, I mean, it's not even just going through like, I don't think you expect college kids if you're going through like four different reads. I mean, I don't think it even happens.

Maybe like a Nussmeyer type guy, like something like that. but so even with us all trying to figure out like the quarterback part of it it's great to have a great head coach it's great to have a play caller that's really creative and adjust to what he can see what the defense is doing before other offensive coordinators but like when it comes down to it it's a guy like ben is it better that you have somebody like ben i'm not even talking about like rothusberger's talent but there was probably some good fuck you in him where it was like all right it's 11 of us like i got this

this. And I know what they're, but like, there's going to be some times where I'm making this up as I go along. And maybe that's what we're- Yeah. But, but, you know, like, I think that that's the part of the game that is missing for a lot of the younger players, where there's almost, I feel like the quarterback position has less trust through, through high school, college in those first years in the NFL than maybe we've ever seen before. And, you know, look, I don't know if that's getting in the way of development but it's it's a lot to ask i mean because you're a lot of people that are saying like hey ben johnson's there's fine you know what i know is not there whatever it was they were trying to do on offense with him last season and some of it's on him but like the houston game like

there's stuff that's happening for decision making stuff if you were watching those bears games you go okay what what the fuck is this group doing no i i think i think you're spot on from a standpoint where Caleb just didn't look comfortable and i think a lot of of his instincts is a lot of, well, a lot of his game he took from the college and he tried to survive here in the NFL and it just didn't work. Like, you know, pulling backwards out of the pocket, running left, running right, worldly bird, look down the field, hoping somebody's open, just doesn't happen on Sundays, right? It just doesn't. And I think a lot of who he was from an instinctual standpoint, I think he realized, can't work here. Like, I got to, I got to go through

progression, I got to be able to read the defense, I got to be able to anticipate, I got to be able to look at fronts, and I got to be able to get this bowl out of my hand now, right? And so I don't think he just was there. And that's why I go into what I said three minutes ago, there's going to be an expectation with Ben Johnson and his offense for him to be on par like how Jared Golf was. And I think that's unfair to the kid, right? I think this kid is going to officially have somebody that he's going to have to jail with, build with, and kind of get this synergy moving in the right direction.

And I hope Bayer's fans allow him. him that patience, give him that grace. People forget, Josh Allen wasn't a guy in my eyes or a fish who like, you know, a top 10 quarterback until year three. You know what I mean? His game was so kind of a wild cowboy. Well, you're right about

that. Yeah. We're totally right about that. You know what they had to shave him down to make him art how we perceive Josh Allen right now. And I think Bears fans aren't going to give Caleb Williams that grace and then they're going to be pissed off solely because of where he was drafted and how he was drafted. And I think like, that's how

that's how you ruin a guy. Like the kid has it. But from the neck up, you got a lot of him to grow. And we'll see. Did you see the stat before the season started? What's that? 16 quarterbacks,

black quarterbacks starting week one. Well, I knew the, I know the, in the NFC East, oh, power to the people. Thank you, my brother. Yeah, I know, I know the NFC East. I mean, we hold, I mean, Dak, Jalen.

um jaden and the russ man so uh we're strong in it we're strong over here in the nfc east big time big time making progress making progress my man needed it need that feel great hey man it's a dual threat game we know brothers can run it and we can throw it too uh and be able to operate in a pocket like that's what makes great that's what makes like people will yell at Jalen for his, you know, his lack of ability to throw the ball or maybe the aggression of what he, how he threw the ball prior to winning the Super Bowl last year. And I'm just like, that's unfair to that, man. He put, he put the team before his stats.

You don't think he wants to throw the ball more, but he knows the strength in his team is what Saquan Barkle in his office line, so he's going to hand it off. And I thought he was efficient last night. I like, you know, there's some throws I thought he should have let it rip, but he trusted his legs and he ran forward. But everything was moving to stick. So I like Jalen. man, I think he doesn't get nearly enough credit.

I've never seen a quarterback come off winning a Super Bowl and people poo-poo on his success, right? So only because he had 18 touchdowns. He had 14 rushing touchdown. But the man had a 71 completion rate in the playoffs and had 77 completion rate in the Super Bowl. And by the way, both times he played Patrick Mahomes, he beat him in a stat category.

You know what I mean? So it's like, I don't know why we don't put him in that top five category and how people just continue to, like, shit on them because of the pieces around them, right? Like, if I hand you the keys to the porous, your job is to drive the porous. Don't crash that bitch, and he didn't.

He drove it home and came home with a little party. So just for the record, though, and I thought he was great last night, but Trent Dilfer was on a new team after he won a Super Bowl. He was on Seattle. Yeah. No.

I don't know that Dilfer was debated towards the top of the quarterback ratings the way Jalen is. I would concede that Jalen is considered a better quarterback, so therefore he should get more respect than Daufer was then. And basically, it probably, and Trent would be the first to tell you, there's a lot of quarterbacks that would have won with that Ravens defense. Yeah, but I think you also don't give him enough credit, man.

The man had, the man threw 15 interceptions in 2003 and 2005. He cut it down to five interception. Right? So there was progress made with the ball on his hand. You know what I mean? Like, we shit on that. Wait. Are you talking about Hertz?

Yes. I thought you were like, man, you're just rifling some Dilfer's stats at me? No, no, I don't know shit about Dr. Dilfer. Hell no. I'm talking about Jaylor-Hertz. Excuse me. All right. You want to guess Dilfer's quarterback rating for his career?

I don't know. 60. 55. Yeah, I can see that. Let's end. Let's end on that. Thanks, man. Enjoy the season.

And I'll see you again. Thank you, my brother. Always a pleasure, man. And seriously, from the bottom of my heart, though, we've been rocking for a long time. You've always been a loyal supporter of mine. You know I got you. Within a back alley or at a steakhouse, don't matter, though. I appreciate you. And I'm happy with all your success, brother. All right. My man. You can see Willie Cologne on S&Y, on Good Morning Football, on Fox Sports One, all over the place. He deserves it, man. Great work. Respect, brother. And now it's time for a special part of today's episode brought to you by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. If you're an NFL fan like me, there's one move to make before the season kicks off, and that's subscribing to NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube TV.

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Yeah. I cut them off myself a long time ago. 2010 defensive player of the week. Hell yeah. Honestly, I was bummed out when I got it because it was like you can either have a small, medium, or a 3X, and I was like, I'll just take the fucking grill cover. And now, you know,

fits a little better than it did that. So, uh, still a little large, but, uh, you know, it's funny how things work out. Why did they have? What's with those size options? I don't know. It seemed like the wide receivers, the DBSs. We're getting all the, you know,

the larges or whatever or like, you know, maybe some of the middle linebackers and, And I don't know, by the time I got there, it was probably like, you know, the seventh or eighth game, it was just like, oh, so all the normal sizes are gone. Got it. No, but it did feel like back of the day. I remember, like, I was a big, hey, there's an event going on on campus, like, and there's a free t-shirt being given out, I'll be there. And for whatever reason, they were always like two X's. And I'm like, it's a bunch of college kids. Like, why, why do we only have two Xs? Because all the regular size humans got there before you, I guess. Yeah. No, no. That's like just what they would order. just order, they'd have like all these huge sizes. I'm like, maybe they're just left over once.

It's a catch all, maybe? Maybe it's a catch all. Yeah. I don't know. Anyway. You're like an aftershock promo. Just like, you're going to be kidding me. I had a lot of, uh, smeared off shirts.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Skype parties. Uh, what was that week like for you walking around the hallways, buddy? After being named defensive player of the week. Oh, so awesome. So awesome. I think I had a, I had a, like a, it was like a fumbled pick sort of thing

near the line of scrimmage. And I don't know, they said my knee was down, but we saw on tape, it wasn't. So they robbed me of that. But I had a couple of great plays that game. God, love walking around school for that week after a, it was an away game, though. So not everyone got to see it.

That was tough. They heard about it, though. Yeah, they did. All I'm thinking about is the Sopranos scene. Anthony recovers the fumble. Got a real nose for the ball. Right. And Jeff is walking you back to the car.

What did you do after the game? Well, you just took the bus back, I assume, yeah. So that's usually what happened to road games. Took the bus back, yeah. I tell you, it didn't mess around at all during football season. Your boy was quitting everything. It was like, you know, a real dry January or whatever. But for whatever football season was, it was like, I don't know, for some reason that was just enough.

So other guys would be like, come on, we're going to go smoke after practice. I'm like, can't do it. Can't swing in. So, I don't know. That really got in my head football season. You made a contract with yourself. I really did. Just leading by example.

Yeah. Yeah, I remember the hockey team, like, would take a vow to not drink. Like, one guy would drink. It was a huge thing. I can't believe he's drinking during season, you know. Maybe I should join that 40 under thing I'm seeing on Instagram. Those 40 you football guys. It's the first thing I thought.

It sounds like you need to join a football team again. So I said to just unlock that part of my brain. I don't know. That would be great if you showed up to some under 40 just league where those guys either have the best insurance. My guess is they have none. I was going to say, I think it's the other way around. I mean, seeing the clips of that stuff, it's like I admire it so much, even though it's probably one of the dumbest decisions you can make. But just to see Kyle show up to the first practice, they get through reps.

And he's like, all right, so we're just all on the same page. We don't drink this season. I'm starting a pack right now. Oh, man. I think anyone who's playing any sort of tackle football, I feel like there's probably towns all over America. There's certainly ones, you know, in and around Poughkeepsie,

the crowd jewel where I'm at where it was just like guys who was like barbers, just guys who are in their 30s, 40s, they'll meet up in a field in like November and play like no pads tackle football or full contact. Like I think you got to be, you got to have a different kind of wiring to be like at the age of injuring yourself doing normal things. And you're like, let's just play football on Sunday mornings.

Yeah, post college. We had a friend break, just snap an ankle in half. And that was kind of the end of our pickup situation. Were you guys tackling each other? This was in college, though, I believe. Well, there's a high school or college. Yeah, we were tackling. It was in a field somewhere.

And, dude, it was brutal. And that was kind of the end of that. They'll just do it like before football. I was like, we just got to be done by like 12. So we can catch the first game. But dudes are crazy too because, like, we used to play like full contact pool basketball with like a fish or price hoop. Dude.

And that was like, honestly, like, my favorite part of the summer. I thought I was having a heart attack. this time I was back. I was like, hold that timeout, timeout. Like, dudes would be getting scratched retinas just for no reason in the pool. Like it was just slaps on the back. Yeah, it's bad. That I miss.

I miss that. You could still get me involved in that. Came of high intensity pool basketball. Yeah, come on. I'm right there. Okay, let's get some emails here. Let's start with salt water. 6-2190.

No true. gym stats. I work out at home. Workouts consist of Peloton rides, followed by Calisthenics, nothing crazy. MBA comp is Michael Jordan. Shout out to Michael Jared Wargon. Nice. Long time listener, SVP show. Listen to the segment about Kyle's dad in the salt water pool. The water is not salt water. It's a salt-based system with a chlorinator that converts the salt into chlorine. The water is far less abrasive of the skin than traditional liquid coral and the oil systems and much easier to maintain. But the water is a salt-based system. But the water in the pool is still chlorinated it is ideally around 3 ppm is that check out that i don't know

that i don't know we'll go with the guy here it's just sort of a blanket term like we like wow nice pool next thing it's like salt water that's just that's how we say it i know it's not actual like ocean water in there but for everyone else that doesn't know well he said the segment was still awesome but yeah uh i'd still couch that at salt water i wouldn't be like well you know it's a system It's a feeder system. Yeah, so it sounds like a 3 ppm chlorine situation. So you just dumps salt in it. That's really what you do.

I don't want to out myself, but I do have a saltwater pool. And it's pretty easy. It's pretty nice. Hey, it's not your dads. Apparently, just having it be your dads is the worst thing for your rep. If you got one, I mean, you're doing something right. I think the email backs you up. You're not as fancy as we thought.

I guess it does. Yeah. So Rudy has it. So Rudy has one. He's just laying in the cut all the Tuesday's episode. Yeah, it's right over here. Yeah, it's nice. I don't know.

I didn't want to. I don't know. You know, it's kind of awkward. But yeah, I do have a saltwater pool. It's nice. You just dump salt in and that's pretty much it. It sounds like he should be taking more shots on life advice. Salt water pool.

He's got some stuff figured out. What's awkward, working hard and being able to put in a pool at your house? Yeah, I don't know. You're right. You're right. You're right. I should be proud of more proud of it. What a dick.

I don't know. Bring Oregon back. that guy doesn't have a pool. All right. Am I a bitch? Hello, 29, 6, 3, 200 pounds, nothing to do crazy in the gym, but I can rep out 225. With the start of the football season, I want to get y'all's opinion on a recent situation on advice and how to deal with dickheads in the stands and public settings in general. I'd like to preface by saying that I'm definitely not a fighter. But if I were an elected official, I'd pass a law that every person can fight one person per year has to be a justifiable reason without any consequence is still working out to fine print on this legislation. I do think it'd be nice if there was something in there I think it would keep us all in check Like a committee votes Maybe you can't vote

But a committee votes Be like yeah yeah This is this is within the parameters Also know it's a jury Yeah I don't know No no no no no You're saying you could take a trial By combat

Right And like the committee decides Whether this is a justifiable thing But yeah I've been reading about dueling Again Can we bring it back Yeah just say jousting

jousting I think you almost have to really trust the opponent in a joust because it seems like there's stuff you could do there but to not aim at your head yeah this isn't jousting while you have a toothpick through your eye socket

come on dude I don't know I don't know all the rules on it but whenever I read about dueling like you know what do you know in the last sanctioned Hamilton, yeah. Was that a sanction duel? I don't know if it was.

Oh, it was. Well, at that time, it was done by that time. It was a very, the Northeast was very against it. And then the South was, uh, was for it. And then that's kind of like this gunfighter book that I'm reading where it's, it's kind of this southern migration to Texas. So there's some of these southern sensibilities with the lawlessness of just, and you don't talk about dudes breaking out of prison.

like every single chapter I'm reading about a guy. It's like, then he was arrested and then he got out. Like constantly. Like, and then the author even makes a joke about it. He's like, if you're catching on that prison security was laxed back then,

you obviously learned the lesson here. So anyway, I always think about, I always think about that just real quick. Like when, yeah, back in like the 1800s, like if somebody just like wanted to not be found,

you just don't find them. Right? Like where you just go away. They might be dead. We don't even know. Or they got a real nice want of, holster up you and you're like damn they nailed that one shit yeah that's awesome it's gotta be a good feeling when somebody like totally

botches it you're like they're never gonna catch me but they put out like a 98% match and you're like oh man I'm cooked yeah that's pretty much it's sir Rudy it's just okay I shot a couple people in this part of Kansas and then I'm just going to go to New Mexico now yeah I'm in Montana now okay sure what's your name Steve you pick I don't give a shit Steve Jackson

came up north from the Rio Grande okay he's not the guy you know and then you just go back to gambling it's like there's no ID anything I would let's run this

through the system what system word of mouth okay back to dueling all right so he's at the um CU Georgia Tech game in Boulder over the weekend I was sitting with my dad

all CU fans in a section of full of CU fans a guy behind us maybe 45 years old, not a big guy, looked like a bitch. Wow. And also a CU fan was obnoxious the whole game. He was hammered, screaming, ridiculous shit like, heard him, tear as Achilles. We're all

on your side just after that evidence, by the way. Yeah. The whole game, I love live sports and know a lot of this comes to the territory of going to live games. We all put up the screaming, even some occasional spit on the back of our necks. However, all caps, he was also constantly leaning on us and accidentally hitting us with his hand.

When he did one of his hand gestures, towards the end of the game, I finally asked him, Palaula, to keep us, to give us some space. He used some body control. He didn't take this well and started swearing at me and my dad telling us to go F ourselves. I've been a season ticket holder for 30 years and I can do whatever I want. That's the full quote.

Go F yourself. I've been a season ticket. Yeah, dude, whatever. What is it like seven games? That was always like the Pats thing. I look at Pat's Jets game. Late 90s, early 2000s. We had somebody else's seats.

They were pretty good seats. But it was back in Foxborough where we were on the benches. And, you know, you're just trying to, we weren't, we were so not rowdy because we had to drive back to Vermont. And, you know, somebody dropped the season ticket thing on us. Season ticket holder, 20 years. All right. Well, I guess you get to just punch everyone. My bad.

His friends realized he was in the wrong and being an asshole. So they made a move where he wasn't directly behind us, but he kept yelling at us. So I returned fire with some of my best insults and suggestions on what he should do to himself. Side note, calling someone who was angry and small, big guy. does not defuse the situation. That's a good one. Guy steps down to our level where he's in my face now screaming. Would I have been justified stocking before?

His friends finally removed him from our section altogether. I could have taken him easily and find myself wishing I had hit him to teach him a lesson. Common sense would say I did the right thing by not ending up on World Star, but what would you all have done in what public situation is okay to throw a punch? I think ultimately just to answer the overall thing, we're all probably better off when it's only when you feel threatened and you clearly didn't feel threatened. I know exactly what you're dealing with. I've had a few moments in my life where I felt like I'll just use your word a bitch for weeks after something where I was like, yeah, you know, maybe you should have.

Maybe you should have. Maybe you should have. It's like you're only playing out the scenario where you win and everything goes right and you're not sued, you know, because there's plenty of people that do strike and then it's like man i wish i hadn't done that uh some of its maturity some of its temper some of it's just you know knowing sometimes you're so overwhelmingly right that you are less likely to want to get physical and the other person kind of knows that they're so completely wrong or in this case they're hammered so they're not thinking clearly anyway so i totally get what you're saying i think everyone listening this has had this kind of situation where somebody's so completely wrong.

But, you know, you don't know. I mean, what ends up happening? I mean, if he doesn't do anything and then three of his buddies are filing statements saying that you started the whole thing, you know, who knows? You could be going in for appearances like three times over the six or seven months and explaining it to work. And so I understand. I understand that feeling all of us, I think most of us, you know, wanting to feel like

you can protect yourself wanting to feel like you can get on the other guy, but that was kind of a weird phrasing. But I would say, I don't know that anybody's going to go, you should have cracked him. What a loser. Well, probably everyone in the comments well, but that's easy for them to say. No one's tougher than everybody else after your altercation. Yeah. So, I mean, you got to think videos. I mean, half the time, if somebody's taking a video of a fight that's just started or whatever, you know, a lot in the stadium, a lot of people are like, look at these two assholes sometimes you can see the chirping and you know and there's context in there but for the you never see the beginning you almost no you almost never see the beginning unless there's you know

someone who's so drunk you're like i just got to see what this person's going to do but i mean it's just you're right it gets posted somewhere or there's you know if the loser of the fight i think is probably almost always a little bit more inclined to take things to the court than the winner so yeah i think especially you said he's a little guy i mean i think you could probably take a punch just to know that, like, if you think it's going to go there, like, just to be sure that you're on the right side of the law here. I think fighting in stadiums is almost always a no-no. I know I get, like, adrenaline's high and stuff, but it sounded like he was in the wrong section to be doing that type of thing, right? Was he, are they all Colorado fans?

Yeah. Oh, okay. We were just talking about this before the show. You saw Ron that video, the LSU Clemson altercation. Yeah, I mean, good for the Clemson guy. That, I mean, that's the thing is like, like you want the fuck around and find out kid to find out, and he found out, and it's awesome to see.

Because, I mean, that video is incredibly to begin with. I mean, like, Van broke that down on the tailgate show, and it was just incredible. I mean, like, it's just an older dude putting this younger guy who flips off. It's a younger LSU fan, I think it was like the final player or whatever of the game. He flips off this random, older Clemson fan, like, not old, but like, you know, older dude and he immediately you watch him do that mental math in like one second

yeah i'm gonna do it immediately puts him in a chokehold and it's just on and it's it's it's so great to see that happen because like honestly fuck that guy flipping some random stranger off like he kind of deserves it but i don't know yeah i i do sort of subscribe to like don't throw the first punch thing maybe that's a my dad thing because i don't know especially if you know you could take this guy like that's that's also a powerful feeling too, right? If you're just like, hey, you're, you're so below my level. I'm not even going to swing at you because, and make it make sure he knows that. But I don't

know. I think there's probably more bad that comes out of it, even if it's incredibly satisfying. Yeah. And as you get older, it's not like, oh, I don't want to hurt myself when I say like, you got more to lose. As you get older, you just realize like, I don't know, like, it's like one of those Oregon Trail things. It's like, if we do this, there's like five multiple choices here. Like items dysentery. Maybe we don't. do this. And I think I like those multiple choices better. So I think that's just, every year I get older, I like could get more towards that side of the trail. Look, that Rivian thing bummed me out for two weeks. But I don't know. I couldn't figure out why. I was like, what do you think the root

of your, it was like, because he was so confident. Like, am I not hitting the traps enough? Like, what? What would have made him so confident? Like, look at you. you're in the mirror like look at you what you're talking about you catch yourself on the wrong like a little dehydrated overtired face like a little bit older like did I age four years last night like what happened is there a line here what's going on yeah so like this is what this guy sized up was like fuck this guy get out of this rivion right now I'm not mad about your act like I'm not even mad about your aggressiveness I'm mad about confidence like what yeah but you know there's a lot of kids out there going my dad said

don't ever throw the first punch and you're looking up no but you're right like I think there is that you know in high school it's okay I think after that it gets a little I think there's sometimes where you better you know we'll sort out who was wrong later uh yeah I don't know I'm not the fighting not in this case not in this case though no I understand what you're saying is Rudy and it's kind of but I mean what are you going to do were you going to feel awesome if you beat up a hammered guy yeah they get arrested and it's like okay cool what happens now you know you're in stadium jail by the way did you see the Seahawks thing like they're putting guys I mean this isn't new but they're putting like cops and opposing teams jerseys now like now if that's

going to be happening like that's entrapment it just does feel wrong what if you're just heckling right free speech yeah yeah Yeah, I mean, what if you're just given the guy the business? And then what is the cop supposed to do? Just never engage. What if that guy's passionate about football? That's funny if the cops are like turns around. He's like, yeah, great job on third down today.

It'd be funny if those cops are like some, like those detectives that you can spot. It's like the haircut and like the type of undercover clothes they're using. And you're just like, oh, yeah. And he's like, hey, you guys got any, he doesn't worry and get any grass. It's like, what? You got to do it. I was wondering if you could just spy him right away. It's like right after the kickoff, you're like, oh, my God, we got one next to us.

Holy crap. How are we going to spend this four hours? Yeah. All right. I don't even know what we were talking about. Oh, the fighting. Yeah, don't fight that guy in the stadium. Okay, the mighty Thor.

Let's do this one. Good day, gentlemen. 510, 190 NBA comp, and Jennings, smart guy. It throws his body around every now. Every now and then the ball manages to go in. So my brother and his wife named their kid, Arthur, fine name, kind of regal, but also sounds like he should be playing clarinet in a middle school band. I decided Uncle Duties include nicknaming.

Sure. So I went with Thor. Wow. Gave the kid a stuffed, what is that, Mileneer? Mielnir? Yeah, the hammer thing. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.

I've had a hard time with the superhero movies lately. yeah it's hard as lately though it's been a while it's been a while since I've been I've watched a newer one recently stuff and I I realized why I haven't watched him in such a long time they had a good run had a really good run

all right so anyway he's been hammer smashing and drooling on it like he was born and Asgard my side of the family completely bought in we all call him Thor now here's the hitch over pancakes last week my brother casually drops and my sister-in-law, low-key doesn't like the nickname.

Now context when she says low-key doesn't like it, that's code for she's internally raging and would happily throw the, I got to pronounce this thing again, through my windshield. I was never much of a Thor.

I love the name, Thor. I've even joked about it. Naming a kid, Thor. Yeah, right. So what's my move? Keep calling him Thor because he's already halfway to leading the Avengers, go back to Arthur,

which feels like he should be solving mysteries with a talking at Ardvark, or do I go one step further and be the responsible? Just go Arty. Art. And I tell the rest of the family to drop Thor too, because honestly, Thor is an all-time nickname. If you can live up to it, what's up Oregon. So that's the ruling. Do I retire Thor or keep feeding the legend?

Yeah, look, man, it's not your kid. And so if the mom who named it hates the nickname where you're trying to, like, I'm totally, I love the name. I'm totally on her side and I would say based on like the creativity and fun you had with that email that I think this email is very revealing

of your personality and that you kind of think it's like hilarious and funny and the whole thing but yes to Kyle's point you also get it and I don't know man I mean if I had a kid I'm not even the mom

obviously but if I had a kid and then somebody else decided that my kid's name was something else yeah it's called it's like what no hold on just the same to Brian in it

yeah you're you got to let this one go and he doesn't have to go and tell the whole family even though he was the genius that came up with his nickname right the brother is also in the family so it's a brother's job to be like hey just got this word from HQ

just sending this memo out to everyone. That's not your job as the uncle, right? Um, so yeah, I think he might be. He started the whole thing. He started it, but he didn't tell everyone like, hey, guess what? Here, I got a great idea. He was probably just, you know, on a, on a like a little nephew, uncle, kid excursion and he came out with it there. So I don't know. I think, I think it could totally be that the actual father of the kid could come on and tell his side of the family, you know, that's like, that's what you have to do. And they're their in-laws. Like, if you got to, the person who is on that side of the family

has to get the message out to them so yeah I just go with whatever he I'd leave it up to the dad and just go with whatever he says so the vice president there I agree um you know the thing the thing is though

Arthur and Thor that those two dudes are growing up to be two totally different people right like I kind of strive to like your name developed yeah yeah exactly your name kind of like get you into a lane, right? You know, depending on what, like,

if you have an artsy, weird name, you're likely going to be more artsy, right? If you have like a normal kind of name, like, you know, like famous people have kind of, I don't know, they grow up differently. So if this guy grows up as Thor,

like, I just, maybe that's, that's, the other thing is like, you're, you're kind of like shaping the way that this kid could potentially grow up

and like maybe the mom's nervous of that. At the end, like, if the parents don't like it, like, that's the end. Like, you kind of have to back off.

And it's not, it's innocent enough for me. It's not his fault. Like, it's just in good fun. And of course, the kid's going to like the nickname. It's Thor. He's getting gifts from it and it sounds cool, but you just kind of have to drop it. Like, if he's, you know, older and still wants to keep, you know, be called that or something, he gets a call back to it maybe.

But, like, he's so young right now where, of course he's going to like it. Like, you're the fun uncle and you're giving him stuff. And, you know, everyone's kind of, everyone gets excited when they say Thor. But I think you got to, I think you got to back off. And also, family nicknames don't necessarily need to leave, like, the house. Doesn't need to, like, go into. the uh into the world like i go i went to some of my buddy's house in high school and like you know mom's calling him bow and boo and bug like just different names and i'm like for different people i'm

like what he's like oh yeah it's just how i grew up and it's like he didn't come into school and introduce himself as boo but uh so i learned that the hard way a little bit because i my oldest daughter i call her cheese she likes cheese and she has like this really incredibly cute cheesy smile right so we call her cheese okay and i and i started calling her that at daycare and then people started calling her cheese. And my wife's like, you can't call her a cheese. Like, this is like, this is not going to be a thing that's going to catch on. So I kind of had to, I kind of had to stop doing that, which was a little, at least in public.

So you're right, Kyle. You got to kind of be careful. I've never met an accountant named Meadow. So. And if you're thinking about like, can you imagine what your brother's dealing with? at home so you're just inviting some version of like some extra conflict you know there's going to be conflict it's unavoidable in a marriage uh don't do this to him where now you've created another conflict where the wife is clearly like this sucks i don't i name my kid something your brother

doesn't get to rename him um i think the cheese lesson is a good one in here you know I mean, do you want your dog? Like, you like to call her that. Do you want kids calling up when she's in high school and be like his cheese home? Although she probably has a cell phone. Yeah. Probably no house phone. So you wouldn't even know.

That'll do it for us today. Thanks to Oregon, zero effort. No. Well, all the, I like when he just checks in. So we know he's there. Takes a while to like turn this thing on now. You got to be, if you stay ready, I'm not ready. I'm not got to get ready.

I'm not ready. There you go. All right. I'm not just going to sit here in silence the whole time, though. How are you feeling about those yanks? Love it. Can't get enough of it, yeah. Big series this weekend, Blue Jays.

Big series. Big series. North of the border. In New York, but. No, I'm just a rivalry. Goes beyond. It goes beyond borders. What do you think is going?

on? Who do you think is having a tougher time with, like, foreigners right now, Toronto, New York City? Hmm. I don't know. I just, I just, I just, oh, Mike, come on. I, I've never been in Toronto. I don't know. Does New York have a problem? Is that a thing? Oh, no. I don't know. I don't even know. I just, I don't know. I guess some of the people that, um, I don't even know what I was doing there. We're getting emails asking about that. Yeah, just trying to put you in a spot. Yeah, we have a lot. We have a lot of policy on that for next spot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a

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