The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Georgia Concerns, the Second-Best Conference, CFB Playoff Draft With Danny Kanell, Plus Worst Take

Episode Date: October 5, 2022

Russillo shares his rankings for the top 12 teams in college football (0:24) before he is joined by Danny Kanell of SiriusXM and CBS Sports to talk more college football, including Alabama, Clemson gaining steam, ACC QBs, the debate over the second-best conference, playoff speculation, and more (8:30). Then, Ryen, Ceruti, and Kyle present Worst Take (56:06), before answering some listener-submitted Life Advice questions (1:05:09). Host: Ryen Russillo Guest: Danny Kanell Producers: Kyle Crichton and Steve Ceruti Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A lot of college football in today's podcast. My top 12. We'll talk with Danny Cannell for about 45 minutes, including conference rankings. We'll do a playoff draft. Just a bunch of stuff. All the topical stuff going on in college football. If you've got worse take and life advice.

To start today's podcast, I'm going to go over my college football top 12 because this is what the playoff will look like. Alright, I have some things I feel strong about, other things I don't know, and I'll tell you when that happens. Not super strong on number one, but Ohio State will be number one on my rankings at this point. You could

make an argument if you wanted to that they've only played teams that actually aren't that good or not that exciting, especially post-Notre Dame after that win. But I just don't think that's fair. I love their offense. I love their offense. I can imagine any scenario because it's actually going to get better here when it gets healthier. I can't imagine any scenario where I don't love their offense.

So I'm going with them even if their strength of schedule is below a couple other teams at this point. Will that be consistent with every ranking? No, it will not be. I have Bama number two. Is the Arkansas win better than any Ohio State win? Probably. Strength of schedule is better. Strength of record is better.

All those things. Jalen Milrow comes in a four-star quarterback, runs all over the place. They're number one on yards per play on offense, and they're actually, or excuse me, they're number three, I believe, in that category and number one in defense in the Power Five school. So they're doing something right.

If you want to put Bama on, I'm not going to tell you you're wrong. Georgia have down to three. I'm now worried. I'm now worried a little bit about the offense. Not saying that it can't get turned around. This tight end, multifaceted, it's going to be fucking awesome and all these different things. It just seems to be slowing down there a little bit.

And they really did battle with Mizzou. Now, I saw Joel Klatt, who hates the SEC. He moved them all the way down to five, right? And it was kind of like, well, you know, the Michigan, excuse me, the win against Oregon doesn't matter as much, whatever. You can't put Georgia behind Michigan, okay? Because I don't think there's any version of events where Michigan beats Oregon 49 to three. I don't. So that's why I have Georgia third.

I had Michigan fourth, back and forth with Clemson at five. I'm actually moving Clemson up. I just like their best two wins better than Michigan's two wins. Beating Wake and beating NC State, if you don't pay attention to ACC football, you may be dismissive of it. That's more impressive than beating Iowa and Maryland. It just is. And Maryland's

pretty good. Iowa has to be one of the easiest teams to ensure their defensive numbers are pretty good because their offense is absolutely atrocious. And if I'm putting you fourth to play in the playoff, I need you to do better than beating Iowa 27-14. That could change there. I originally had Michigan 4 there, but I was like, why am I giving them benefit of the doubt when I like those two wins back-to-back weeks against Wake and a top 10 ranked at the time NC State's not

really used to being ranked that high. Offensive yards per play, Clemson's getting a little bit better, certainly better than something that we were tracking last year where they were terrible. 58th, or excuse me, 5.8 at 46 right now offensively. There's some stats that Michigan certainly is better than. No problem. Just like Clemson a little bit

more. Struggling with 6, 7, and 8, but like a lot of people, I have Oklahoma 6. I like the Baylor win more than anything that USC has done. SC's non-conference, not that great. I have USC 7, Rice and Fresno. Fresno's all right, but they've already played three conference games, which is saying more than what you're looking at with some of the non-conference stuff there with Oklahoma State. So if you want to put SC up there, I'm not

going to tell you you're wrong. Both overall strength schedules at this point are basically bad and even 90s into the 100s, strength of record, same deal with them. Okay, this one I moved around a ton. I started with Tennessee, Ole Miss, and Penn State in that order, and then I changed it. I put Penn State eighth. They technically have zero ranked wins at this point. I just think it's hard to go down to Auburn and beat them. They put it on them. The Northwestern score could be concerning at 17-7. Yep, but they also had five turnovers in that game, even though the turnover margin was plus two. I'm making some excuses here for Penn State, but I'm looking at the strength of schedule

and giving them a little bit of an uptick. Then I'm doing the game where I'm making some excuses here for Penn State, but I'm looking at the strength of schedule and giving them a little bit of an uptick. And then I'm kind of doing the game where I'm saying, all right, Ole Miss against Penn State, who would I pick? I'd pick Penn State. Tennessee against Penn State, who would I pick? And my answer is I don't know. I think I'd lead Tennessee there. They have two ranked wins, but they're pitting Florida.

We're both unranked now. So that's always the dangerous game there that you're going to hear from media members and fan bases that are pushing certain teams is are you using ranked wins at the time or are you after 10 weeks using wins against teams that were ranked? Are you doing the weird shit

where you're taking it out and saying against the top 35 schools, how many top 50 wins? I'll do that later this season where I'll take a team and make the most glowing presentation of their resume. And then I can also do something that's pretty damning. And that's why I think later on we get to some of these 12, 11, you know, teams 11, 12 and 13 later in the season.

You're going to go, have you done one thing that's like really awesome? And then now you're going to be in a playoff. So I changed it around. I put Penn State eighth. I put Tennessee ninth. I put Ole Miss 10th. I'd pick Tennessee against Ole Miss. I feel stronger than that one against Tennessee, against Penn State eighth. I put Tennessee ninth. I put Ole Miss tenth. I'd pick Tennessee against Ole Miss. I feel stronger than that one against Tennessee, against Penn State.

And then finally, it's Oregon and Utah, the two Pac-12 schools. Right now, the SEC has seven. Pac-12's got five. ACC, four. Big 12, four. Big 10, only three. We'll change. We'll see.

Not sure, though. Oregon, the UGA loss. You're like, is that one that much worse than Utah's Florida loss? Sure felt like it in the moment, right? It's worse, but then you can play the game of who's Florida now to compare to who's Georgia. So I put Oregon here. Strength of schedule on this one favors Oregon because they've got that Georgia one there, which is like,

cool. Our strength of schedule is awesome, but we got dismantled for an afternoon in Atlanta. And you could argue if you wanted to, that it was a true road game for Utah. I don't know that that was a great time at the Mercedes Benz dome for fan base from the furthest point of the country. And then I did the head to head thing.

I go, Oregon, Utah, like where there's someto-head thing. I go Oregon, Utah. There's some other head-to-heads where I go, I think I'd pick Clemson against Michigan. I could be wrong. I might even pick USC against Oklahoma State, which would contradict the rankings there.

Oregon, Utah is an absolute I don't know. I could pick a side. I don't know. I just went with the total body of work for Oregon. I just like it a little bit better than Utah. So there you go, your top 12. Start the NFL week off right with a no-sweat same-game parlay. Every Thursday from FanDuel, America's number one sportsbook. It doesn't matter if you're new to FanDuel or already have an account.

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No, you know. I just forgot the time. you why don't you tell me what time it is again because i always screw it up it's always weird the east coast thing for me on the mondays well i did so we're on seven to nine on espnu radio and then we picked up a second gig we're on noon to three in the afternoon so you get five hours of us non-stop talking we're on mad dog sports radio in the afternoon but now were you just were you really listening or were you saying that to try to give me a little chance to plug

no I really was listening I was really listening and I got frustrated because Dusty was making a point and it took so long that I was waiting for him to like tee you up and then I was like this is what happens when you don't have a host. So I don't want this to get back to Dusty and have him think I was giving him shit.

Oh, it's going to get back. He's going to be ticked to you. He's going to be hot. But it was one of those things where I was like, I really want to hear where this goes. And I was in the car sweating my ass off seven minutes later. And I went, all right, I can't. I tried. I tried. I tried.

But I think whenever they, you know, the non-host thing, I think it's great trying without the host. But then I'm like, oh, there's a reason there's hosts. So basically, I just spent the first minute and a half dumping on the mechanics of your radio show. And that's not what I meant to do because I actually do like the show. Now I feel like a dick. I'm sorry. Oh, I can't wait. Dusty's going to listen to this. He's, he's, we have great chemistry. You do. I think he teased me up perfectly. I thought what you were going to say, because we had, we do our own dirty dozen, which is our top 12 teams. And we

pick like a draft, our top 12 teams of college football. And it got about as heated as it's ever been between he and I. And the first thing I got done with when I was done with the segment, like people were like, are you guys okay? I went back to you and I, when we used to have some heated debates about rankings, who deserves to be where and who would win. And it was, it was getting hot and i think he was getting as frustrated with me as you used to get and that's all i kept thinking i'm like am i that bad like these guys are starting to hate me but i thought it was good radio like from that perspective no it is good it's i catch it more often than you realize because now i was like

why am i catching now it makes sense i'm like, that's because he's on five hours now. Have you noticed a pattern that maybe it is you? Maybe. I'll tell you, Courtney's told me that all the time. You know, I'll talk to her and be like, I was a rough day at work. You know, I don't know if it was the best segment. And she'll often say, you know, maybe it's you. You're the one that's annoying. You're the one that's always just playing the devil's advocate,

contrarian a little too much. Maybe it is me. No, I actually think van pelt and i are our worst two fights were far worse than anything i ever had with you um there was a couple there were a couple segments before when i was before you were on the show yes yes when you came in to visit van pelt was giving it to you and then i was like foaming at the mouth and it was like if bama went down like seven nothing to unranked vandy which wouldn't happen but you understand the point and then danny would put out his googly eyes like oh and then van pelt said why do you do

it and i then i jumped in so you were just like fuck these guys and then i remember you saying like why do you follow me then why do you say that vanderbilt couldn't go up on alabama why you got to take that stance hazel could because i forget how often what do they get him once every every seven years so i have used a lot of self-restraint with those first quarter i learned too many times that they're probably not gonna probably not gonna end that way but that's what you used to do. Anytime a big time SEC school was down 7-0, you'd get those two eyes or the thinking emoji and then you yelled back at us. Yeah, that was more heated than really anything you and I ever had. I know there was a time where the one time I got the most pissed at you and it was we

were going back and forth, we were going back and forth. And I was like, well, what do you, you know, like, what do you mean? And you were like, uh, on the air, which had never happened to me ever. Like no one had ever done the high school buddies hanging out. Like, and I tell me that only happened once. It happened one time. Cause I think I said on the, I was like, did you just, me as a rebuttal? Whatever.

All right. All right. So we spent five minutes on that. That was a good start. Okay. What did you do at number one in your dirty dozen? At my dirty dozen, I went back. I'm going to pull it up here to make sure I have it right.

Because I want to make sure I'm accurate here. I moved Georgia out and I have Alabama as because I want to make sure I'm accurate here. I moved Georgia out and I have Alabama as the number one team in the country. And I thought that was one of those cases where they've got the resume, they got the eye test, they did it with a backup.

Now with Bryce Young going out, they did it with Milrow coming in. So I had them at number one. You didn't have an issue with that did you no i moved georgia out no i didn't do a joel clatt where he went from one to five which is absurd um but i know one day you guys are gonna have a beach house together and just hang out on your porch being like no he hates me now oh he doesn't like you now no i put a poll out the top four jobs because you only have four options on Twitter polls.

And I put Wisconsin, Nebraska, Georgia Tech, Arizona State. And he was pissed off because I didn't have Colorado as one of the top four. So I reposted. Recruiting-wise alone, Arizona, you could say the same for Georgia Tech too. It's just Tech is a little bit more challenging. I don't think you're wrong there to leave them out of the top four. And by the way, like, I'm all for that place. It's unbelievable. See you.

But it's, I mean, you've been down a long time, except for like one weird year there. So I don't have a problem with that. Look, I had Ohio State won, as I mentioned in the open of the podcast today. I have different challenges with doing the 12. And the reason I'm doing the 12, too too is at the end of the year, I want one of those teams at 11 or 12 to be horrible with no resume.

And we're like, cool, they're going to be in the playoff. Awesome. Because it happens. I went back and looked at every team from like 11, 12, and 13. And I'm like, these arguments are going to be so fucking stupid. There's going to be some school that plays no one out of conference, has one ranked win, and that team isn't even ranked anymore. And they're going to be 12th. And we're like, welcome to the playoff. That's okay. Because when we saw the bracket that everybody else said, that plays no one out of conference has one ranked win, and that team isn't even ranked anymore,

and they're going to be 12th, and we're like, welcome to the playoff. That's okay, because when we saw the bracket that everybody else said, and I saw you tweet out, like, whoever doesn't like this can't be my friend. That's fine. We've had our issues in the past here, too. Ohio State just feels like I know for certain what they are in offense, and that is scarier

than what Bama or Georgia is. And so the Georgia part that's weird is this is the Kent State thing, which I actually look at that as you get so up for these other games. Like I've seen Bama in the FCS game look like shit for a half, and it could be the worst 30 minutes of football you've seen from all year long because they're just like, whatever, we're not up for this. We go to Auburn next week. But then to go to Mizzou, where I watched that game, Danny,

and that wasn't this weird, we have four turnovers in the red zone score. They were kind of going back and forth with Mizzou, who, let's face it, should have beat Auburn, maybe, but didn't. And they're certainly on the lower end of SEC school. So I moved Georgia out of that, and I moved them to three, but it was really splitting hairs for that one to put Ohio State up. I just feel like with their receivers and their quarterback and their tackles and the tight end,

I feel like that's the best bet of any single unit of those three teams, which, again, could be wrong because it still might be Georgia's defense. Why do you hate the ACC? I haven't heard Clemson brought up yet. No, I put them to four. I put them over Michigan. Yeah, because I look at, look, I think if I'm, again, I'm just sort of repeating myself here, but Clemson's wins against ranked teams, NC State's good, Wake's good. Those teams will probably still be ranked at the end of the year

where a team like Arkansas, I go, I don't know. I think they're alright. I don't love the quarterback all the time. They could end up 12th or they could end up 24th. I don't know what the hell's going to happen with them, but I don't know why Michigan's getting the benefit of the doubt and the other polls from so

many other people over Clemson when I like their two best wins more than I like Michigan's. I do too. I think Clemson is a team that I looked at with a lot of speculation coming into the season. I almost was of the mindset, I think I talked to you about this, was they might need to make a change at quarterback

to Cade Klubnick because DJ Wengle was struggling for the first three, four games. And then the Wake Forest game, I really thought was going to be his coming out party. He was able to silence his critics. He put the team on his back. He had so many outstanding throws in that game that it was just going to be this massive turning point.

And I do think that's one Dabo Sweeney deserves a ton of credit for because he stood by his guy for a lot longer than a lot of coaches would have. And that's one of Dabo's greatest traits. And maybe one of his weaknesses, too, is that he's loyal to a fault. You know, the fact that he doesn't love the transfer portal because he feels, you know, hey, that might have betrayed a program and he doesn't like that. But he was preaching at ACC Media Days this offseason

that DJ was going to be the quarterback that he saw at Notre Dame, the quarterback that we saw in high school. And we didn't see that for three games. I mean, Georgia tech, that was a nationally televised game. The score was a little bit seething. He was struggling.

It wasn't great. You know, they kind of sputtered, they stopped, they started. And then I thought that was kind of the part, like the, the real turning moment potentially for

DJ's career. That's why I'm starting to buy more into Clemson. And I have them slightly higher just because of the resume, but I think a lot of it does hinge on DJ. And now they've done it without Brian Brzee, who's been out, you know, he's out last week. That was a pretty impressive win. Their secondary got torched by Wake and that was a rough performance for them, but they found a way to win with the offense, which I didn't think they'd be able to do. They wouldn't have done that last year. The fact that I think they'll get healthier on the defensive side of the ball,

especially secondary, I think Clemson is a team that I was skeptical outside, maybe just on the outside of the playoff. I'm starting to believe that they might be one of these legit playoff contenders, too. So I think four is probably the appropriate spot for them. This is where I would just go back to Georgia. Yeah.

I'm with you. I think it's getting more like Kent state. Totally agree. It happens. You're at home. It's slow start. You're late. You know,

you're just, you put it on Georgia. You put it on Oregon and like this showcase game, you smash South Carolina, which again is not a talentless football team. Not to say they're like i think south carolina is awesome but they always have like a couple guys there and you're watching those first two weeks and this is what we both agree on how much i hate this

like hearing from people and seeing like people that do this being like well i guess it's georgia all over again you're like jesus christ it's two weeks why do we do this every year we actually think that like it's good like as if sports don't become unpredictable despite the lack of parity part of it but here we are now a month into it and it feels it feels like i mean you tell me at first i'm looking at all their tight ends and their formations and they can do all these different things and use bowers all over the place but are they lacking outside guys is it is it is it starting to show up now as teams change how they're defending them yes because i don't think you can have, and I think Brock Bowers might be the most talented offensive player

in the country. He's that good. He's that special. But I still don't think the tight end can be, just can't be your go-to guy. You have to have an alpha that can take some of that load off in addition to Brock Bowers. And then you become really dangerous.

And I think the loss of Jermaine Burton going over to Alabama, like in losing George Pickens, the NFL, I think there is some issues there at receiver. And I also think Stetson Bennett hasn't played that great the last couple weeks. He's kind of sputtered. I think he needs to find who his guy's going to be.

They were a 29 point favorite against Missouri, you know, and they were the Kent state game never felt like they were going to lose. It was just like, ah, they'll wake up, they'll flip the switch, they'll be fine. Against Mizzou, they were in danger of losing that game. That was a pretty embarrassing performance. And I think we're going to learn a lot more about Georgia this week against Auburn, where, again, they are a massive favorite.

I actually like them in this game. I think they do kind of wake up and get back to what they're doing. But I think offensively, they've got to find somebody not named Brock Bowers and not a running back, somebody that'll step up. I mean, are you really going to ask Ladd McConkie to be your guy? Like, that's going to be your threat? Somebody else has to evolve on that offense as a deep weapon for Stetson Bennett. Somebody that can kind of open up the field

so Brock Bowers can open up things in the middle as well. Yeah, and I always kind of think I probably hold George's running backs to a different standard because there have been some stretches there where you're like, all right, this guy's an early pro and all these different things. I mean, I know McIntosh is a senior and maybe he's third on the depth chart there, but I thought McIntosh had a couple big runs there in that game that kind of changed

things, his nastiness. That was actually kind of a tough win for them, and it shouldn't be. If we're going to look at you after two weeks saying, oh, you're going to do all these things, like that game against Mizzou after the Kent State one shouldn't happen. I have no problem dropping them down. It could be completely wrong. You know what? They still might be better than Ohio State and Bama.

We're going to find out. All right. Let's do the conference stuff here. You brought up a really great point. Here we are. I'm being nice to you. When you're talking about the ACC, if you run through it, the quarterbacks, whether it's DJ, who I think we all collectively

feel better about, we're still waiting for a longer-term version of the Notre Dame guy, which is going on year three. I think your guy at Florida State is really impressive. Travis, Leary at NC State,

you know, Van Dyke. The quarterback to watch is Drake May. Oh, I haven't even got to Drake. Yeah. All right. Yeah. I mean, but there's Drake.

I mean, even the kid at Syracuse has been pretty good. The UVA kid isn't even close to being the same statistically. But I think if you dig in there with the offensive line, that kid was awesome. Armstrong was last year.

And Hartman from Wake. You pointed it out. I thought you were being annoying. And then I was like, nope, he's right. He's totally right because the depth of the quarterback talent and Hartman from Wake. You pointed it out. I thought you were being annoying. And then I was like, nope, he's right. He's totally right because the depth of the quarterback talent, it's not the best conference. But that position, I think it is the best. I think so, too.

And I think it's interesting that two of the quarterbacks you mentioned are not playing as well as they did last year. And Devin Leary and Tyler Van Dyke at Miami. Armstrong, too.. Armstrong too. Armstrong too. Statistically, he was awesome. Trent liked him a lot. There you go. He's a stud. He probably should have left.

Robert and I, his coordinator, goes to Syracuse and look at what's happened to Garrett Schrader. He's flourishing in that system. I was a little bit curious if Brandon Armstrong was more of a product of the system. That's one of those up-tempo, stretch the field vertically, trust the weapons, and it schemes a lot of guys

open. I think that's why you're seeing Syracuse have so much success now. But Devin Leary has kind of struggled. He has not been as solid as he was last year. They should have lost to East Carolina the first game. He had like 200 yards passing. He didn't play great against Clemson. It was okay.

It was a close game. And then Tyler Van Dyke, he's probably the one I'm most concerned about. He was incredible last year. Everybody was talking about him as a potential top 10 pick in the draft. Then they turn over with Mario and they bring in Josh Gattis, who I don't know if there's something off there. I know they've had some injuries with Restrepo being out wide receiver, but

I don't fit maybe a question mark Mario getting involved with the offense, maybe a question mark, something to keep an eye on when he was benched against Middle Tennessee. I don't think that's a great look. In today's environment, I think you do have to be concerned if you're a Miami fan that possibly transferring is on the table, especially

considering he knows what he's capable of doing. And a lot of schools would line up and say, we saw what you did with your freshman year. It's an issue at Miami, something to keep an eye on. But back to the quarterbacks in the ACC, I mean, Jordan Travis has been balling. He's made huge leaps. I thought he had a little bit of a setback against wake. Um, I, I, I just setbacks are good. Like he's, I think he's the most improved player maybe in the conference. And I, I gave a ton of credit to Mike Norvell and Alex Atkins, the offensive coordinator

for designing a system around him. But when you take away the run game, which I thought wake did a pretty good job of doing, I think he's a little bit limited in the pass game. He's not going to be a guy that's going to be able to throw it 40 plus times and go toe to toe. And Sam Hartman, to me, is the best quarterback in the conference right now. Maybe Drake May, but Drake May is still young. He still has a way to go. But Sam Hartman, the way they run him, that system, it is wild. I mean, I don't really like it to be honest. I can't stand it. I can't stand it. So like he sits there, him and the running back, like stand next to each other and they go super slow and he rides them up to the

line of scrimmage. And he's actually reading the safety from the quarterback position while the ball's in the belly of the back. And most of the time, you're like, what are they doing? Do they not know? And to Hartman's credit, it's almost like you're daring the defense to say, go ahead. You're saying, make your move. And you're like, no, you make the move. And it's kind of like this game of chicken.

And he waits till the very last second. And so many times the defense finally declares and they're like, all right, we're going to attack the run. And right when they're about to hit him in this tight window, he puts out these beautiful touch passes to a great group of wide receivers at Wake Forest. It is one of the most unique offenses I've seen. And I don't see anybody else run it the way they do. And maybe nobody else can because the way

he runs it he's he's a pretty special talent what he can do Stanford will do some of that extended mesh stuff at times but I don't know and I now that I'm thinking back to the times of watching him they don't do it as consistently as they do I mean they sit there and hold it it's wild I

I don't know I don't know that it's great for him as a quarterback developing, but it's super annoying to play. It is. It clearly works. And I do think he has a good array of throws in there. Okay, so if we were looking

at the conferences, it's okay to say the SEC is the best? Are you okay saying that today? Yeah, but I... So... Would you say they're not as strong as they've been the last couple years? I mean, LSU's down.

A&M's a disaster, which I want to talk about. A&M's a disaster. Florida's a disaster. Kentucky's one of your stronger teams in the East. Just lost to Ole Miss. Ole Miss is up. Mississippi State's up. I think they're a little more vulnerable

than they have been in the last couple of years. Cause I I've been quieter about the SEC stuff. I mean, other than occasionally tweeting about it every once in a while, but like, just tip your cap to them. They're the best. I think they're more vulnerable, but like, who's, who's going to be that conference. I think overall take there's more parody in college football this year than we've seen in the last five. And I think the PAC 12 is back, which is great. And you're starting to realize, I didn't realize this until I talked to some coaches, the impact that COVID had on the Pac-12 and teams that were kind of west of the Rocky Mountains.

They lost a year of development. They lost a year of on-field work. I mean, I was talking to a coach. He covered a game at New Mexico. And they were one of the teams that had to leave New Mexico. They moved to Las Vegas. But he said, the coaches were telling me when they were training in the weight room, they couldn't even spot each other.

They had to have like six feet of distance. I mean, ridiculous stuff that was happening. That's actually good because it puts you under pressure to make sure you get that rep up. That's right. But like Washington only played four games. I mean, I really think it rocked the Pac-12. Now that we're further removed from that, I think you're seeing

a lot of these teams kind of come back to the forefront, which I think is great for college football. They still might beat each other up and will USC or one of them remain UCLA? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe. But I also like, you need to be better

for me to buy into this dip when everything preceding COVID also showed that you were behind everybody else. So I don't know if the Pac-12 like deserves any of the benefit of the doubt when I watch some of the games.

But I don't, like my biggest thing with the SEC is okay, fine. But like when you play Arkansas or A&M in Mississippi, and again on a Saturday like everybody else, like they may not be ranked. I just think it's tougher than some of the middling stuff. With the Big Ten this year, a conference that I kind of hold to a different standard because I think of like, wait, you may have three real contenders at a playoff spot. That's, I think, a super important part of the evaluation. But then I look at the Big Ten West, which usually drives me fucking crazy every other year, where I'm like, oh, so this one team's not going to play anybody at a conference again. They're not going to have to play anybody that's tough on the East. And then

they're going to have this awesome record. And you're going to try to tell me that they're actually a playoff team when I've watched them probably play five or six times. And I'm like, that team isn't that good. Now, granted, it's early. The scheduling thing is sort of a mess. Northwestern's in first place in their one and four. That's the part of the Big Ten where there's this group of like Washington State goes to Wisconsin, beats them. Michigan State, we thought, wow, nice win for Washington. And then we're like, oh my God, Michigan State's a mess. And then it's like, no, Minnesota's the team you need to pay attention to. And I know Purdue's very competitive and all.

The first month plus for the Big Ten has made me wonder where all that depth is, where I just don't think there's any comparison to that depth of, yes, maybe A&M. Again, I say disaster based on my expectations for them. A&M fans may say, like, whatever. I still think A&M's like a tougher out. I still think LSU, despite the quarterback play, which I'm not a huge fan of at this point,

is a tougher out than some of these Big Ten teams that I've talked about here. And that's why I'm still looking at it saying, you can frame it however you want there's still a gap there's still a gap for me and it's because I have certain years where it's almost like my own Tua thing I thought Tua was going to be pretty good as a pro

so I'm going to judge him differently I keep waiting for the Big 10 to kind of surpass the SEC at some point and so I'm a little harsher with them because my expectations are higher. It's like a student that gets good grades or a child that gets good grades as opposed to your other kid that smoked cigarettes out back at 14 years old. You're like, I'm not going to worry about him as much. I think what you said there is probably the most accurate thing you've said

is that behind the SEC, it's kind of wide open. I mean, look at the depth of the Big 12. There's not much difference. West Virginia, maybe that team is out. I know, but I actually think like West Virginia still, like that's not a walkover team at all, as we've seen a couple times this year, despite the last weekend.

I think the Big 12 can make an argument as the second best conference in the country. So go ahead. Sorry. From a depth standpoint, but what might kill them is what killed the Pac-12 for years is what if they beat each other up? Like, I don't...

I like Spencer Sanders. I like Mike Gundy's squad. I just don't know if they're that team that's going to be able to, you know, maybe their one loss at the end of the year. But I think the Big 12, the winner is probably going to have two losses. I think you're probably looking at a 10-2,

you know, team meeting an 11-1 team, and maybe the 10-2 team wins the conference, and then they're left out because they have two losses. You're probably looking at a 10-2 team meeting an 11-1 team, and maybe the 10-2 team wins the conference, and then they're left out because they have two losses. But I do think that's another kind of interesting angle to the way things could play out. I know I've said this for a couple years now.

One of these years, it will happen. I do think you'll see a two-loss team that will make the playoffs. You know, a two-loss conference champion that I think would be deserving for it. Because I think the Big 12 is going to beat itself up. I think the Pac-12 is going to beat itself up. And there's a scenario.

I mean, do you honestly think that you would put... Because there's a scenario. You could have two Big Ten teams and two SEC teams. And maybe that's the most likely scenario as things are kind of unfolding. Because you could see George Obama undefeated in the SEC championship game. Georgia's schedule is an absolute cakewalk to get there. Alabama has

some more hiccups potentially, but they've gotten through some of their toughest opponents. And then Michigan, their opponent, maybe Penn State throws a wrench in that, but I think Michigan has a great chance to be undefeated when they go to Columbus. And then, you know, could you see a scenario where you've got Michigan, Ohio State, Bama, and Georgia in the championship, in the playoffs? Yeah. I mean, look, if Bama were undefeated and you get undefeated 12-0 through the SEC West, I think that's the toughest division to stay clean through. And, you know, to Bama's credit, like Ohio State, Oklahoma, you know, like I always have a ton of respect for the big-time

programs that find a way to challenge themselves all the time. And there are a bunch all over the country. So that's why I think when somebody's like, oh, this conference doesn't play anybody at this conference. No, it's program. It's program specific. There's certain programs that just will not challenge themselves because they feel like that gives them a better chance. And I respect the ones that at least just one non-conference. It's somewhat challenging and sometimes it doesn't even work out with how far you schedule these things out. I was with you under the old regime. There's still, when you only have a few years, seven, eight years of data, think if you had 50 years of a four-team playoff, how often things like, I never wanted to hear the argument of, well, this hasn't happened before or last time this happened. It's like, well, did last time this happened, what else was around it?

That's what you have to compare you can't just compare here's the resume here's the loss and whatever okay but what else was around it to prevent it or to make that thing happen and that's where it gets a little bit more complicated but with the expanded version of it well of course you're going to have two lost champs and if bam were to lose to georgia in the sec title game and then both still get into the playoffs were to lose to Georgia in the SEC title game and then both still get into the playoffs, I'd have to know what the rest is. If USC's clean and Clemson's clean, well, no, it's not going to happen because whoever wins the Big Ten

is deserving. But that's where I don't trust USC yet to go undefeated. Do you? Like, they look better than I thought. I thought they were going to be a nine-win team. They were looking way better than that. But I still think they have flaws on the defensive side of the ball. I still think the offense is incredibly talented,

but I think there could be a hiccup in there. I mean, Oregon State did a pretty good job holding them to 17 points. I wonder if there's another potential hiccup in there where they could still be. I just look at the teams that possibly could be flawed and get a loss, and I think the more likely scenario, the teams I trust are kind of the same ones that are there. And it's Michigan, Ohio. Now, here's the thing that I hope happens. If it does get to that, I mean, how many times have we heard,

well, the committee wants to encourage strong scheduling. Michigan schedule is a joke. You know, their non-conference should be held against them. I don't know if it will. And because they did exactly what they were supposed to, them and Ohio State both ate home games. Now the conference games, that happens every other year in the Big Ten. You get five home ones. But the three out-of-conference games, which were really maybe the easiest non-conference of anybody in the

country, that could be a potential problem for Michigan if they're undefeated, lose to Ohio State. Maybe it's not as close. That could be a problem for Michigan if they're in this team with one loss. If it's Michigan undefeated with a loss to Ohio State, not the conference championship game, Bama or Georgia undefeated, but they lost in the SEC championship game, and there's somebody else that's a lock to get in,

then that's when I think it kills Michigan. And I think last year's result in the playoff would absolutely impact them, and I'd probably be okay with them remembering what took place at the Orange Bowl. UCLA, very excited about that Washington win, but Bowling Green, Alabama State, South Alabama, as I was trying to think off the top of my head. But, you know, the Pac-12 used to be able to argue, hey, we're the only ones doing

this nine times a season. And now you hear it all the time with the Big Ten fans that never brought it up before. Never said like, that's what always drives me crazy about the nine game thing now. It's like, you guys never cared. Never would defend a Pac-12 school back in the day

and now you want to now i'm just going down my own little road i guess i just got real disappointed with the big 10 this past weekend yeah it's been ugly yeah the big 10 west is atrocious it's bad it's as bad as it's been i think i think wisconsin being as bad as they have been and obviously getting rid of paul ch Chris because you've kind of seen this coming. I think that was a significant blow. Northwestern's not a team that can carry the torch. I'm bummed for Scott Frost.

I thought Nebraska was going to be more competitive this year. Iowa's offense is atrocious. I mean, it's well documented how bad it is. I think they might not be last, but they're 129th, 130th. I think they moved up one spot.

But there's just, is it going to be Brett Bielema's squad that kind of comes to fruition here and keeps this ball rolling as a physical team? But any one of those. This is where I think the ACC is looking at this situation too because I think the best teams are in the Atlantic, not the Coastal. This is when your best foot forward would be to do away with the divisions and have their two best teams play. I think it could hurt the Big Ten because maybe there would have been an opportunity for two teams in the playoff if you had them play each other like you're going to

get most likely in the SEC with Georgia and Bama playing against each other what do you think is going on with A&M? I think there's a couple things I do think the criticism of Jimbo's system is warranted he's got a more antiquated style that he's ran for a long time and he's had some success with it

but if you do take away the years with Jameis Winston the offensive numbers are pretty average he really hasn't had too many receivers come through his system that have really flourished. It's been more of a traditional old-school play-action pass. We're not going to go fast.

We're not going to worry about the chunk plays. And I think that's starting to catch up to him, especially since he hasn't had a quarterback like Jameis Winston that's been in any part of his program. I also think, too, you got to be careful when you try to build culture by

buying players and selling NFL. Because I saw that firsthand at Florida State. He sold, I'm going to get you to the NFL. I'm going to get to the NFL. I'm going to get to the NFL. And clearly now, they're having so much success in the recruiting trail

that I think you sometimes lose sight of what the task at hand is. And that should be winning a championship, right? That's what Texas A&M brought them in there for. That's what we're supposed to play for. But I think that's becoming more challenging than ever, not only in College Station, but around the country.

And I think once you lose that game or games, you see a team that kind of starts crumbling really fast. I thought you saw it. And it's so similar with Florida, with Dan Mullen. I mean, remember, they felt like they arrived because they lost Alabama by two. They still lost Alabama. Then they lost another game, and the team packed it in.

And there was a culture problem. It was championship or bust. And Dan Mullen even sent that message in the Sugar Bowl, I think it was against, was it Sugar Bowl or Cotton Bowl against Oklahoma? And he's like, this isn't even a real game for us. We play for championships. And you throw in the towel on the season, it's either championship or bust. There's something going on that's just a little bit off in Texas A&M. The expectations are off the charts.

There's talent there. He's going to get a pass because there's that young talent of this recruiting class. But you've got to be careful you don't lose it. When they lost Aniyah Smith, and it was really A-chain or Aniyah Smith were the only two offensive weapons. And you lose one of smith and it was really a chain or anaya smith were the only two offensive weapons and you lose one of them and it makes them really pedestrian on offense yeah both those guys are studs and you know there's a lot of playmakers that we all get excited about with on saturday but a chain and smith were like another level like if you were

going to talk like top tier playmaking get the ball in their hands and and turn turn a game around um i I love both those players and Smith being out. You knew when that injury happened, you were like, alright, he's fucked. The Jimbo thing, you could also just say, hey, you know what? If you don't figure out a quarterback, you're stuck like a lot of other programs are. I like Max Johnson.

I thought he was the best of the LSU quarterbacks. I like his toughness. Get a couple nice wins on the resume, but it's still not a completed deal. Then he gets hurt again. Haynes King comes back in and Haynes lost his job pretty quickly because I was watching him going, this isn't going to work. This isn't going to work. And maybe I like Max more because of the results a little bit, because I remember the first time I visited Tuscaloosa right after Saban had gotten it going and somebody walked me around the facility and they were telling me Saban story after Saban story. When you, when I first started realizing like, Jesus, this guy's another level. You know, I saw all these former players in Alabama gear. Um, but they were, they were being like just pictures hanging around the facility. And it was anyone who had just left Bama.

And the guy was like, we took down like Sean Alexander was up here and we're like, take it down. Nobody knows who he is. You know? And you're like, what? And you go,

no, no, no. Take like anybody that's been out of the program for over 10 years. When we have recruits coming through, they don't even know who these guys are. So put up like the last first round pick that we just had, because these kids will know

they'll be more aware they're going to be in tune with that kind of stuff like all of these things no stone unturned that's why i do think there's other saban disciples that sell that nfl thing so hard because saban actually pushed it but he always wanted to make it the most up-to-date that he ever could to make sure the younger kids didn't have to get a key map. Yeah, but I think you can sell NFL. I mean, every kid that goes to any college thinks he's playing in the NFL. Well, LSU, when you come out of the tunnel, all it is is the first thing you see,

not the field, but when you come out of the facility across the street. Go ahead. But I think at Alabama, you have a very unique culture that is passed on from generation to generation, like classes that come through there. That the message is, if you buy in to the process and the work that you got to put in, then you'll get the success and you'll get the NFL. But you got to buy into the process. And I don't know for whatever reason,

if they're buying into the process, there's a little bit of entitlement coming in because of some of the recruits that are coming in there that, we just have to show up and go through the work. And there's not a more disciplined program than Bama at players buying in. Does that make sense? Yeah. They can get away with it. I totally get it.

Cause it's kind of like, Oh, I want to create that. Well, you can't create it until you've done it. And then it's like, well, how do I do it if I haven't created

it yet? You're like, you just have to have it. You just have to have it that way. I think you know you're signing up for something a little bit different, which they certainly deserve because of who they've been throughout this run. You hit on a great point, though. It's something that will always happen

if you miss on a quarterback, especially if it's a four or five or five star from, you know, if it's a five star because it scares off other recruits, you don't have much depth. If you miss on that, it will get you fired. Now Jimbo is not getting fired, but clearly missed on Haynes King who was pretty high recruit. It wasn't working.

Max Johnson is a, I like Max a lot. You know, I know his dad, obviously Brad from Florida state, but he's more of a stable presence in there than a dynamic playmaker. And look at Graham Mertz at Wisconsin was the highest rated recruit they had had in the history of the program, but he's not that good. It cost Paul Chris the job and Mack Brown at North Carolina, at Texas the first time around after national championships. He misses on, you know, Garrett Gilbert, whoever it was.

You know, it just, It happens all over the place. If you miss on a quarterback, it will cost you your job or at least a few losing seasons. That's why I always wonder if Ohio State is better positioned because they end up just offering all of them. And they won't go like, oh, let's miss a cycle here because we just brought in the big time guy. And I'd have to be more locked into the recruiting thing. But again, I've referenced this one other time on the podcast. There was a local guy who was all over Ohio State and he's terrific with it. And he was basically like talking today and the philosophy of the coaching staff is like,

we just bring in as many top guys as we can and we'll offer right up into the last day, somebody that somebody else like, we'll just go for it. And then we'll sort them out once they get here, which was, you know, whether it was going all the way back to borough, which ended up working out, but it worked out for borough to be somewhere else. You know, Joe, wasn't even that guy. There's first year at LSU until he got with, with, with Joe Brady. So, you know, it's not all on Ohio state that they lost him, but they had yours and

then, you know, like, okay, fine. We don't, not gonna really need you. Cause we've got Stroud. And so I wonder how much more aggressive schools should just be about saying we're going to offer everybody. But then I wonder geographically if Ohio State's just positioned a little bit better because there's a little less competition where if there's a kid that's from that footprint that may be willing to, you know, again, I'm kind of talking to my ass here a little bit, just theorizing on this stuff. of my ass here a little bit, just theorizing on this stuff. No, you are 100% right, though. You've got to try. And I think in today's... I just offer everybody and be like,

if you don't like it, you can leave and we'll help you leave. Last year, when they had Quinn Ewers, they had Jack Miller, they had CJ Stroud, and they had Kyle McCord, who's the backup now. Now, two of them have gone. Did they offer the Penn State kid, too? Drew? Yeah, I think so. But they had four quarterbacks. Three of them were five stars and the other was a think so. But they had four quarterbacks.

Three of them were five stars and the other was a four star. And they had four of them on their roster all last year. And then, like you said, they're like, hey, come here. If it works out, great. If not, good luck somewhere else. Well, you know,

you'll pick up a system. We'll develop you and you go somewhere else. No hard feelings. And I think it's a plan that's worked out really well. It is hard to get those players to buy into that. And I think Texas is trying to do that

with Arch Manning coming in next year. They'll have a pretty nice stable of quarterbacks. When yours next year's, Arch Manning can wait around. I'm sure they'll probably try to go after another one. Now, Arch Manning's a name that might hold some guys at bay. I'm not waiting around too long, like a week. I don't know how that competition's going to go. But yeah, I think your best

chance is to try to load up as many as you can. Okay, before we let you go, I'm putting you on the spot, but I'm also putting myself on the spot because I want to go back to the old school here. Let's have a draft. Let's try to go through from this point on

draft our playoff Final Four, so we can't take the same teams. You'll get the first pick. We'll go eight picks here, four each, and see how accurate we are with a month plus of evidence here. Okay.

I get number one? Yeah. I'll take Ohio State. Okay. All right, snake draft. So I get the next two. Okay i'm just kidding i wanted to do i messed the rules up why all of our games stopped happening okay uh shit every whoever went first is going to feel like they crushed this but that's all right

i will i mean i'm really going to pass on drama I will. I mean, I'm really going to pass on Bama. Really? No, I'm just saying it out loud. I'll take Bama. I'll take Clemson.

Oh, okay. Great. Cause I almost took Georgia. I will take Georgia now. I'll take, I almost took Georgia. I will take Georgia now. I'll take... I'll take Michigan. Good.

I'll take SC. Now we're getting in some flyers, right? I'll go... This is where we're really going to put Danny's Twitter persona to the test. Does he take Oklahoma State over Tennessee and Ole Miss? I'll go... This is where we're really going to put Danny's Twitter persona to the test. Does he take Oklahoma State over Tennessee and Ole Miss? I'll take... It's not going to be Ole Miss

because they've got to go through Bama. Tennessee. I like Tennessee a lot. We're about to find out a lot more about them over the next two weeks. They go to LSU, Bama. I'll take Oklahoma State. You've got to go path. You've got to go who'sSU, Bama. I'll take Oklahoma State. You got to go path.

You got to go. It's going to get there. I'll take Oklahoma State. Yeah, the Big 12. I remember Brad Edwards teaching me this. It's like, if you look at how the Big 12 schedules things, they'll kind of know who they think is going to be. Like, they'll schedule it so that a bunch of their teams

will have a higher ranking because they started cleaner. And then at the end, strategically, it looks like you're beating better teams because of the ranking part of it. It's actually, you'd have to have Brad give a dissertation on it. Maybe we'll have him on again for that. All right, do I go wild card here, even though I have a Pac-12 school already? So I probably don't want to do that.

Oklahoma State, like the pick. Penn State out there flirting. I don't have a Big Ten pick. Problem is, you got Penn State's that stretch is going to be tough at Michigan

Minnesota Ohio State do go to Bloomington this year in case somebody was wondering

uh trying to think I'm not picking a third SEC school it's stupid

no you love the SEC come on go ahead take LSU. It's your squad. That's a good loss, though, to a Florida State team. Is that what pissed you off?

That was great. When they were ahead of them in the AP? Oh, my God. No. I don't even. You're doing these blind resumes now, and I just assume whatever it is, it's all SEC-based. I had four SEC teams in my top 12. The back end is a joke. There's just people plugging in SEC teams at the back

end of that. It's ridiculous. So you think Mississippi State, do you think that many teams have put 40 on A&M? No, but Mississippi State's a unique offense. Oh, okay. I think Rodgers is a good quarterback. He's a great quarterback. That's like back to my original point where I think those

random Saturdays with some of those SEC West teams, I just think it's tougher. I was told the air raid would never work in the SEC. Those physical defensive fronts. 2009, maybe somebody said that. Kansas still available. All right, take a pick, Priscilla.

This is brutal. Am I really going to take Penn State? They can do it. There's a team I'm nervous you're going to take. Really? What what TCU no although I like Sonny Dykes he's done a good job all right go ahead I'm not going to take him I don't think it's

what do you think I was going to take who do you got I'll take Penn State all right I'll take Utah I think Utah is a team people are just sleeping on oh Oh, wait. You want to keep going? Oh, that was eight? That's it?

Let's go all the way to 12. Damn it. All right. That's eight. I wasn't writing them down. You were. All right. Wait.

Do you want to bonus to the Danny Connell six-team playoff where everybody gets treated fairly, including the group of fives? No. You have to pick a group of five. That's right. All right, that'll do it. So you go to Ohio State, Clemson, Michigan, Oklahoma State, and I've got Bama, Georgia, USC, and Penn State.

I don't like that last pick, but I also didn't want to pick Tennessee. It's my third. At least you didn't get Utah. I'll get them our next draft. We'll have to do this again, see if any of these are still alive. Can I leave you with two things?

Please. You know I don't think Tua sucks, right? Wait, do I? You sent a tweet. So, you sent a tweet about Tua after he beat the Ravens and came back. And do you remember, I sent a very sarcastic tweet because you put up his numbers and you're like,

not bad for a backup quarterback. Tua comes back and i i responded to your tweet i said yeah but everything was underthrown because that's to his knock right the arm strength and you retweeted it to everyone and said oh no like canal like here's a canal take like that was a serious take i thought you were serious actually crushed no i thought he threw like five touchdown passes and four and he was Like, here's a Canel take. Like, that was a serious take. I thought you were serious, actually. I was getting crushed. No. He threw, like, five touchdown passes and four in a yard. It was phenomenal. Well, the throw to Hill was underthrown. It was, but that was not the time to crush Tua.

And then Tuanon is a very real thing. Like, if you'd say anything bad about Tua, they will come after you. So that was a fun couple days just dealing with some Tua backers. They were too busy with me. So I don't know how much you got from that. But yeah, I did. I thought you were just knocking the SEC quarterback. And because that deep ball was underthrown, I was like, oh my God, he's doing this now.

I said everything was underthrown. I was being very sarcastic. Almost like the worst dude ever. That's what I was trying to be. And nobody got the joke. They just thought I was being a... I was getting slaughtered. I was just getting crushed.

You know what? We need to do Worst Dude Ever the next time you come on. We'll bring it back. That was a good one. Last thing, you see the war on football is back, right? I did see that. It's back with a vengeance too. They're coming. It was like the Cold War for the last five years.

You didn't hear anything and all of a sudden, with two is hit on Thursday night. My goodness. They're back. How, who can be more outraged over the hits is the competition that's out there in the war on football. This is your time to shine,

man. No, I've shut down the war on football. I gave up. Um, do you guys go ahead? You guys can try to shut it down. You can say all these

things just go ahead i'll sit back and we'll talk our top 12 and we'll go ahead the best was when you blame the liberal media while we were at espn and i don't know that we had the full understanding of what that would would mean and now removed with more information you're like oh my god you said that and thought you were still going to work there and then you like threw gasoline on the fire and had a liberal media drop every time we talked about it just to remind people in case they didn't know like to remind them give a little extra added what was what was unintentionally funny about that now in retrospect is that it actually made people really mad that we didn't even realize we're mad about it and it was like when we played one trump piece of audio because we're like this guy's out of control listen to

how crazy this soundbite is and then there was a meeting about it where it was like what's up with these guys they have de santa's tattoos and then we were like no that wasn't that there was like what's up with these guys they have DeSantis tattoos and then we were like no that wasn't that there was like none other promoting Trump and it was like no I'm like that's not even close to what we were doing although maybe people thought you were more than I was well yeah well when I got the hat that said make radio great again and I think a lot of people just walking in the hallways look up and they don't really read the hat they're probably they thought it was maga like south florida chapter coming to connecticut i would say that you've maybe done a a terrible job disguising where some of the allegiance are and then i don't know the

thing is that's just weird is that if i were working there we would not have a liberal media drop in 2022 and we were doing it because we were making fun of you for catching so much shit during the war of football where was it christine brennan that like just basically front page of usa today sports just tore into you as like some neanderthal it was either her or is it sally jenkins yeah it was either one of the two it might have been christine brennan i forget who it was but one of the two. It might have been Christine Brown. I forget who it was. But yeah, they torched me

as a Neanderthal who didn't care. Then there was some politician wrote a letter to John Skipper saying, how could this guy work at the company more? It was bad. It was ugly. It's Danny Cannell.

Talk to you again soon, man. You got it. It's time for this week's worst take where we peruse the opinion people out there and come up with we think potentially be the worst the podium right now is 30 if you can remind us here still Gilbert arenas number one Bart Scott on the Chiefs nobody's

scared of them and Patrick Mahoney's number two and then Charles James entered the podium last week with the Daniel Jones is basically Josh Allen without what an offensive line or something like that just the O line, that's the only difference some people were definitely upset that we took

Perks, Westbrook and Beverly, best defensive backcourt, we might have gotten too caught up in the moment, but I also think that there's going to be some Westbrook stuff that I think that Westbrook gift is still not fully unwrapped. I don't know if you saw some of the cuts that were out there on social media last night at Westbrook fucking up defensively.

It's not great. Yeah. I mean, why do people keep making this mistake that like, oh, no, this new coach, everything is going to happen. I swear to God, if you gave Westbrook the square peg and round hole thing. You come back a day later and you'd be like, you'd be like, dude, I don't think it's going to work. It's impossible. He would just stick his chest out and be like, get out of here. He would work hard at it. Yeah, but he would not succeed. Right, and you would say, hey, I don't think this is going to work. And he'd be like, get the fuck out of here. Nobody works harder than me.

It's impossible. Although, I mean, some people are saying, did we jump the gun on the Josh Allen, Daniel Jones thing? Two rushing touchdowns, another win, they're 3-1. He got hurt. But, you know, people are saying, people are talking about it. That would be surprising to me. Year four, he turned into Josh Allen. I would

gladly go, yep, didn't have that one. Yeah, it's our bad. If that's what happens. I could do my whole guess what the team did about guys you liked or didn't like. But when a team says, nah, we don't need the option. We're not going to pick up the option. Yeah.

I don't know. We'll see. We will see. We will see. What do you got Kyle for your nomination this week? I mean, I just didn't get enough help from, from my crowdsourcing. And I,

I tried to say I wasn't going to go with Emmanuel Acho, but basically we just had to look him up and just on the fly, get something. So, you know, do, do better because you're getting Acho tweets now. So he said on October

2nd, Mike Evans, first ballot Hall of Famer. If not for Brady bringing attention to the Bucks, Evans would have gone the majority of his career underappreciated. So Mike Evans, first ballot Hall of Famer. I don't know if it knocks anyone off, but this is what I had to get on the fly. So do better. Wait, no, I think the bigger thing

is to act like we didn't all love Mike Evans the entire time. People are like, who's all love Mike Evans. Yeah, Brady. Two-part tweet, yeah. People are like, who's this Evans guy? Last year, two years ago. I like this one only because there have been seven first ballot Hall of Famers in the history of the NFL. And has Mike Evans ever been the best receiver in the league? Ever.

Ever throughout his whole career. I like Mike Evans. But has he been a top three receiver? Maybe. Never been the best. So the league ever, ever throughout his whole career. I like Mike Evans, but like, has he been a top three receiver? Maybe. Never been the best. So, who knows? Yeah, this is like a happy meal of take because you were like,

oh, there's something else in there too. Yeah. So, yeah. There will be better Acho takes too. Like that's, you know, that's a Luke warm up. Yeah, that's like an appetizer. So, I mean,

that's not going to make the podium, but I think it's warming us up. Yeah, I'm with you there. I'm going to nominate myself for thinking that stupid fucking Patrick Mahomes thing was a columnist in a local newspaper. That's totally my fuck up. I hate doing stuff like that. Can't happen from time to time. And the way it was sent to me by a couple people, I was like, oh, wow, this is weird.

And then I just perused it getting ready for Monday's show. I threw it in. Although I do think there's some criticism of him that are still weird to me. Uh, but I used it as a bad example and thought it was a columnist. And, um, you know,

that's me. Iron sharpens iron. I saw, I mean, it was a dirty move by, was it, was Kansas city star, whatever the paper was,

it was a dirty move. The tweet was super lame. It was basically acting like it was an opinion article and it was a couple sentences from some random guy in the middle of Missouri. This is my first show, so I need to do better. Hey, by the way, are you in a wheelbarrow right now broadcasting? What's going on?

You got the wrong headphone in. That's why. Oh, is that why? Sorry, guys. Here, pop this one on. We're back. You like the one headphone look, huh? I just like to be able to hear. I don't like to be able to hear i don't like to be in the you know i like to be able to hear the surroundings a lot of backup singers do that yeah i want to hear the applause in the background um okay i think sir rudy's here has a real chance and i don't know that it's going to be popular enough to be recognized for the absolute bullshit

this is so go ahead i i might you might have to make a change. Yeah, go ahead. This, this pissed me off so much. I mean, I, I, we, I know I'm a Homer for the magic. We know,

but you don't get mad. You don't get mad at Wagner, but, and I, and I, but it's also a thing where like, not only is that true, but I also like the point of this tweet and this article is just to get people like me pissed off.

It's just, let's throw a bunch of names out there. Some are going to be ridiculous and people are going to tweet about it and that's how we get engagement. I acknowledge that I'm falling for the trap here, but Bleacher Report came out with a list. What was this? It was the end of last

week, I think Thursday of last week, of the basically like the next, the breakout candidates for this upcoming NBA season. Let me just read this list to you really quickly. Because it's all over the place. It doesn't make any sense. Number one, Cade Cunningham. Alright, fine. I love Cade. You and I both love Cade since day one.

So that's fine. But number two is Tyrese Halliburton. Halliburton's already good. I think everybody already knows Halliburton's really good. His numbers are going to be better because his team is awful and they might be the worst team in the league this good. And yeah, he's probably, his numbers are going to be better because his team is awful. And they might be the worst team in the league this year. But like, okay, that's kind of a weird one to say that he's going to break out this season.

All right, but I'll allow it. Jalen Green, three. It's fine. This is where it gets insane. Laurie Markkinen is four. Laurie Markkinen. Yeah, I mean, he's already had an opportunity to be next. And even if he puts up good stats in Utah,

they don't count. I don't care. They don't count. I know who Lurie Markkinen is. It's going to be a bad team, good stats guy. That's not a breakout candidate for me. We know who Lurie Markkinen is.

He's going into his sixth year. Yeah. At what point is the line... We draw a line for a third or fourth year. You're not going to be a breakout candidate. I'll finish out the list. Michael Porter Jr.'s five. I mean, it's whether or not he stays healthy or not.

I don't like that one either. Anthony Simons is a good one. Devin Bassel. Jalen Smith. James Wiseman. And then Poku is 10. But it's really about who's not on this list. So you didn't put a guy like Scotty Barnes on this list.

You didn't put the guy that I said, Franz Wagner, on this list who tore up Eurobasket and is literally, I think, the prime breakout candidate for this year. And then, you know, Mosley's also not on the list as well. Did he break out last year? I guess you can kind of get away with like he had a good year last year, so maybe he's not eligible. But Barnes and Franz not being on this list, I just I don't understand. Like this list was complete clickbait and I'm falling for the trap here, guys.

But like, it just, it made me irrationally mad. Yeah, you still sound mad about it. But it's the bad list. I mean, the fact that you could have Poku and Simons, who, you know, again, I like Simons. I think it's pretty clear. You got to have Markman. You have him on the,

is this guy ever going to be near next in your sixth list? That's just so weird that Markman have him on the is this guy ever going to be near next in your six list that's just so weird that marketing would be on it but yeah it's bad list bad list I don't quite think it reaches the level though like I just I think we have to take into account the clickbaity nature of it I don't vote it in the podium do you guys

I would I'd vote it third over the Charles James Daniel Jones because now I'm hedging you just don't like that one I would. I'd vote it third over the Charles James Tandem Jones thing because now I'm hedging. What the fuck, man? You just don't like that one. Marketing upsets me more than Franz not even being on it, to be honest with you. So we're back to one football? No, I mean, I wasn't

going to change anything. There was no editor that went, hey, why are you putting marketing on there? Fourth. I think they were like, leave it. Leave it. Engagement. Clicks. No presses. Bad presses. Yeah, but the thing is, those lists, even when they're attempted to be done right, I think they were like leave it leave it engagement clicks no press those lists even when they're attempted to be done right all get clicks and then

you know the those those aggregators of NBA content those different sites that have all of these followers and I just I'll never believe why there's 40,000 people that like one of their dumb fucking tweets where it's like hey so and so-and-so had this list. Here it is on our feed.

It's like, you know, and then I'd be like, featured on ESPN. Yeah, Fox Sports, ESPN. Yeah. CNN. Not really. Not really featured. Maybe somebody read a tweet. All right. So, yes. Kyle. Yeah.

No, I think I was going to have everything stay where it was. Okay, you win. That's a tiebreaker. Yeah. He doesn't want basketball in here. I'm like the stubborn jury member who's dragging this thing out for like three more weeks so we get a mistrial. I'm just not.

I just wanted to go home. Yeah. Do you think he did it? Yeah. Just wanted to go home. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah, just wanted to go home. Maybe, yeah. Yeah, just wanted to go home. Okay, that's where it's taken.

You want details? Bye. I drive a Ferrari, 355 Cabriolet. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you could possibly imagine. And best of all, kids, I am liquid. So, now you know what's possible.

Let me tell you what's required. Taking a look at some of the community emails here before we get to life advice. Lifeadvicerr at gmail.com A couple things. One is somebody wanted to ask about, it was just a follow

up to Saruti's buddy. How long was your buddy with you, Saruti, that wasn't going to school, living in your dorm room? Like about a month, maybe a little over a month. It's kind of incredible. I've been thinking about it a lot the last couple of days.

So somebody wanted to let us know it wasn't that weird. Legit 511-246, built like a bag of milk. A bag of milk? Yeah, you don't see milk, two 46 built like a bag of milk. A bag of milk. Yeah. You don't see milk served by the bag after a certain age. Not to say that it doesn't still exist, but you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Just, you get to a certain age and you don't have access to milk bags. Uh, much like Cerruti's boy. I also crashed in my best friend's dorm at Seton hall. We were both freshmen and I was attending ocean County college about an hour south, not to brag. Really good line. Seton Hall started a week before OCC. So after helping him move in, I ended up staying the party. Next thing I know, I've been there six days, even started to pledge a fraternity. I was written up for underage drinking twice that week. It was eventually

banned from Boland Hall, which is the freshman dorm. By Sunday night, I had to leave to start at OCC the next day. When I returned the following weekend to party, some of the brothers at the frat were confused as to why I'd stopped pledging. It was incredible explaining that I didn't even go here. I don't even go here. I don't even work here. Side note, I'm in construction. I guess it doesn't matter, but he said the first project, his first day with a new company was working on Bull and Hall.

Thought for sure my name would show up on the band list when he went to get his ID badge. Got lucky. Also, go Celtics. I love the idea of pledging and then having the guys be like, you're really slacking on this. Be like, I don't even go here. Gotta check your betting list. Alpha Pi.

Again, Kyle, your fraternity was on campus, right? It was the first year of it. They were setting it up on campus. You guys can be the first ones. But it's like before we get set up, they were like, you guys can be the first ones. But it's like, before we get set up,

they were like, you know, I don't know. Just act like it. I don't know. There was like no house or anything. And it wasn't on, I don't know what it was.

It was basically like a shell company of a fraternity. I don't know what it was. It was trying to make it happen. It wasn't another school, right, that you were attending, correct? But there was something different.

Was it just strictly that it was Latino fraternity and they were like, you're good? Yeah, they were like, I guess. There's nothing in here that says you can't be in here. I was like, okay. I mean, it's just all my friends are starting it. They were like, you should do it. I was like, okay. All right.

Okay. This is something else. I don't know if it's worth bringing attention to it, but apparently there's just somebody who is on Reddit attacking every topic as if they were me. So there've been a few suggestions as Kyle has forwarded to me that people keep asking if this is me on Reddit debating with strangers all the time. i can promise you i'm pretty sure the guys would back me up here that in my free time i would not spend it going on reddit to argue with people that i don't know about stuff um i can confirm i'm almost never on it you know i stopped paying attention to anything that anybody was saying about me

after like my family was like what the hell is this or what and i just was like look i don't know what to tell you like you can look at it and be bothered and upset when something isn't you know what i mean like i don't know what to tell you uh people are going to talk about people and so you know again i think there's some stuff every now and then that comes across it's actually really funny um i think there was a guy that was doing a simmons thing and then he was even doing simmons impersonations that somebody showed me and it was actually really fucking funny at one point he he was doing like a fake read for a hard something a hard seltzer or something and then he just went into bill voice it was like seltzer you have to is seltzer having a moment and it was just fucking hilarious so like any anything that i've used as a phrase again you

talk long enough, you're going to have some crutches. And I've certainly had my crutches, but I think there's a guy. Apex mountain. Yeah. Right. Right.

Seltzer double moment. But I could just, how about we just do this? It's not me. How about that? It's not you. And I can, I can confirm.

I remember I sent you a, like a link. Cause I spend way too much time on Reddit. Um, although I, I don't really peruse the Russillo or Bill Simmons Reddits, but I do spend a lot of time on Reddit. There's a lot of good soccer content in there. But I did send you something from one other show once. And I remember your response was, how do you read this?

Because it is kind of complicated if you look at it, because there's just the lines. And you don't know who's responding to who. And if you're not used to it, you don't get it. So at that point, I was like, oh rossillo's never on reddit then there you go yeah i couldn't i couldn't figure it out i was like wait do i stay on this thread whatever there you go well mystery saw not a radical yeah not against it whatever uh some people sent me some really funny stuff from it so it's not me dumping on it's just me telling you like you know once i get done with this job, I work on the other job.

Okay. All right. So let's get to I have another follow-up on the pedantic topic. Whatever. Who fucking cares? Let's just read life advice emails. Yeah. Free electrician is hitting on my girlfriend.

5'11", 195, 37 years old. Garage gym owner. Rogue monster cave. I guess I have that too. We call it the mass station over here. He throws in some bench and squat numbers. Strong. 335, 435, deadlift.

Gave up maxing years ago. Max deadlift is nightmare fuel for me. Okay. Back in April, my girlfriend changed the name here, Kim, and I purchased a house in Connecticut for context. We're both divorced.

We're living on our own for quite some time before making the decision to purchase a house together. We've decided not to remarry and I think this comes into play later. Kim is an interior designer who now works

for a small architecture firm and used to work for a small residential construction company. During her time at the small residential construction company, she made some great contacts with

contractors who we have used on our house, one of those being an electrician. He did a ton of work on our old house and never charged her! So, previous to this home purchase, this electrician was doing stuff for free. My guess is

Kim is good looking. After the purchase, we had plans to do a bunch, although everybody's good looking in their own way, right? Do a bunch of work on the house. We're both DIY people. Her way more than me. However, the plans we have involve a lot of electrical work, which we can't do.

Smart. Electrical work scares the shit out of me. I still don't even like it. When I have the stud detector and all that stuff, I almost still don't trust it. Especially when I'm like, wait, that i almost still don't trust it especially when i'm like wait that's definitely you just tap it away and you're like there's no stud there and it says it is i don't know what the fuck to do i used to be a lot ballsier just hammering away with the drill when i was younger i was like all right well here we go i recently installed a light uh did some electrical work in the house and i was so afraid that i shut off every single circuit breaker because i was afraid i had the wrong one. I had no power in the entire house.

That's the right way to do it. Headlamp just gone. I cannot tell you my pre-mental checklist when it comes to anything having to do with anything electrical where I'm at now compared to where I was. I don't even know why I have some of the

tools I have because you don't even trust anything anymore. Moving on. So it's great this guy's doing it for free. Most of us are bitches about it. All right. So anyway, lucky enough for us, her friend, who is married, has done all the work we've asked him to do in the new home. I don't know how much all the work would have cost if we went in another direction, but he only charges $1,000.

And that was after we pleaded with him to charge us. So he still wanted to do all this extra work for free. He includes the list here. The work is consistent of installing a car charger in the garage, connecting the new HVAC unit, rerouting switches, rerouting outlets, hanging a TV in our fireplace and connecting it to existing switches, installing recessed lights, connecting our washer and dryer in the basement. We move the location of them. This also includes materials. This list is probably longer than that, but he spent a significant amount

of time at the house doing this work. Okay, so he's basically doing it for free again. This is a ton of shit to be doing for somebody. It's like the sales tax on what he would have charged you. Sounds like a fair trade. Right. And the materials, I mean, give me a break. Moving a washer dryer, like a couple of these things would have cost more than $1,000 on their own. I'm not one to go to my girlfriend's phone or even ask who she's texting, but she's been complaining a lot about him lately.

She never has in the past. She says he's being incredibly weird and creepy lately. I can only think of two examples that she has told me about. So I assume there are plenty more. Probably are. One day he finished his work here. So I assume there are plenty more probably are. Uh, one day he finished his work here. So I thanked him for his work later. I found out he had texted Kim saying, quote, you know, your boy wasn't too excited about the work I did. Hopefully he gets

more excited when he sees you. If you were mine, I'd be excited to see you every day. Okay. Auto stop. Fuck this guy. Fuck this guy. All right. You're a fucking hit on the homeowner's wife or in this case girlfriend which i guess you could say i don't know i mean look whatever you were saying earlier whether or not it comes into play that you're not actually technically remarried like uh anyway all right i'm uncomfortable i i don't think anybody's taking the other side of this although some electrician being like well for a thousand dollars uh territory there's some sub actually union 948 uh here we go so i'm not sure what my relationship has to do with his work but okay he like you owns a boat and has invited her out uh on a number of times for her to quote check it out just the two

of them fucking boat guys man they're out of control i see his name constantly pop up on her phone i know she always deflects when he gets creepy the fact that we're not married maybe gives him the opportunity constantly hit her up he's married so what do we do continue to essentially get free work and put up with it we don't have much more we'd like him to do for now dot dot dot why would you want this guy at your house blocked i mean i guess are there some people i totally disagree okay so rudy the floor is yours i totally disagree so i actually have some firsthand experience in this one my wife so as you hit on homeowners oh no other way around for your dad no No, no, no, no. Yeah, are you A, B, or C in this situation? Who are you?

Let me tell the story. You did say you did electrical work. I did, but yeah, no, no. My wife is a realtor, and she does a lot of commercial real estate. And so she's a lot of calls, a lot of texts, a lot of kind of, you know, some people are a little sketchy. I'm just going to call it like it is, a little sketchy. And she recently, probably the last couple of months, sent me some texts from a guy who she was selling this property. One of her clients was this Hasidic Jewish guy.

And he buys a bunch of stuff, does a bunch of business with her. And he was kind of like being like he was clearly like, you know, just seeing what was up kind of thing. She talked multiple times about being married. I think he definitely knew about me. I was in the picture. But he would her like like creepy selfie pictures of him like out of the blue come on clearly like hitting on her obviously trying to see what's up and he's married talks he's got all these kids or whatever and she was like are you like mad would you be

jealous about this i was like no like he's funding like he's doing as long as it's okay with you and it's not like weird and creepy i mean it is i guess creepy but like nothing that would actually scare you he's giving you a ton of business so i don't know i would we just kind of decide to keep riding it now obviously if this guy crosses a line and your wife doesn't feel safe then by all means fuck this guy but here's what i would do just keep inviting him over for different projects like every single week you should have a different thing for him to do until he just gets really annoyed and finally stops doing it like maybe use this to your advantage or, like, he'll just quit on his own.

I feel like you can still kind of use this thing to piss this guy off even if he's still doing this as long as your wife is comfortable with him. Kyle, do you want to go first? Because I just disagreed with everything Cerruti said. I think he turned me right there. I don't know. Oh, really? I think he got, I mean, I don't know.

The only thing that I would say is maybe if the non-husband boyfriend guy, if he's not around, you're just going to keep this guy showing signs of unwanted advances. And then you're like, alright, yeah, just when it's you two in the house together, I hope it's all good. I am glad

we're getting free stuff here. But yeah, I hope this doesn't ever get out of hand. That's a pretty big sliver of this thing, but I kind of agree with what he's been saying. If you're almost done, maybe just see where this goes. If he's the only one

who's really upset and she's just annoyed, maybe she walks down the street and gets annoyed by this shit all the time. It's just that this guy's got her number. But I do see the small chance like this to get out of hand it's like yeah we kind of knew and we kept inviting him to be in a room with you alone like i don't know uh well look first of all it's up to her and her level of acceptance for this like is the trade-off on the electrical work enough for her to consistently have to put up with this fucking guy who has no respect for the email

zero he has no respect for you he's hitting on your girlfriend your live-in girlfriend in your own home he's texting her all the time asking to go out on the boat this guy doesn't give a fuck about you yeah i also don't think it's even remotely the same to get the free electrical work as you said through with your wife who gets some recommendations on stuff every now and then feeling it out okay he buys multiple properties from multiple properties from using my wife as a realtor. He's giving business. And I said to her, as long as you're cool with it.

It's really only selfie pictures. And it's just of himself. How old is he? It's not anything creepy. He's old. He's in his 50s. Yeah, old guys are fucking weird. Yeah, he does not give a fuck.

And he's since stopped doing it because she just kept knocking down his advances. But again, I'm not saying if you're uncomfortable with it, obviously do not like tell him to fuck off and don't do anything. But I'm just saying, if you want to get back at this guy,

use him for his free work. Like, and then that you, the guy, the emailer, whenever he comes over to do work, you should be at the house at this time too. Like really kind of fuck with him.

So he can't really do anything kind of sketchy on the side. I'd bench that day. I'd line it up. This guy's throwing up 335. Let's see. Let's see how fucking captain plug in feels when he sees you throwing up those kinds of numbers um i totally disagree with you guys i can understand there's going to be people that disagree with me it's like hey that shit's hard to find it's hard to get a sub that you trust to show up on time and

you're getting a great deal on all these things uh so here's what i would do i would put together the final punch list to have it all up have the the guy come over and do it. And at the end, she should start talking about the email or being like, you know, it's just, it's just been such a long road for, for my boyfriend. You know, it wasn't murder. They called it self-defense, but you know, he was away for a while and, you know, it's just, he's just looking to move past everything that's gone on. But I just, you know, I've never felt safer around anyone than with this guy because he killed a dude. All right.

So I think there's a way. I don't know. I just don't like the idea of this guy being in the house and doing this. You guys seem to like the discounted electrical work. So we'll agree to disagree. Fair. Right? There's nothing left there?

Nope. I'm good. We're not afraid. We're not afraid to gnaw at the tendons okay blackjack etiquette all right wouldn't call myself uh the definitive resource on this but played a few hands of cards checking in six foot 205 haven't played any pickup hoops in a while and the gut is starting to uh notice but we'll uh we'll get back out there all right wanted your thoughts on the scenario i recently encountered a blackjack table i was playing at a table with six seats there were

five of us at the table but one guy let's call him dave no idea what his real name is i was playing two hands so all six spots to deal a hand were being used all right so this is actually pretty normal a guy was playing two hands especially if he was at the table before you and your friend sat down. I have a feeling there's going to be a lot of disagreements on this one. On multiple occasions, another person would come up to the table and ask if the sixth seat was open because it was,

but Dave would say something like, sorry, I'm playing two hands. Table's full. Nobody argued with Dave when he said this, but I could tell people were upset about it. A couple other people seemed to think it was completely normal that Dave was playing two hands and that he had priority at both seats. I'm not a super experienced blackjack player, but I could tell people were upset about it. A couple other people seemed to think it was completely normal that Dave was playing two hands and that he had priority at both seats. I'm not a super experienced blackjack player, but Dave's moves seem incredibly rude to me. It isn't. I don't think it is, especially if he was there before and he was playing the two hands. I guess it is kind of the dealer's call. If they want to say, no, you've got to let somebody sit

down there. I think that could happen, but if they were letting him do it, he also could be a regular, you know, where he's get his VIP card that they're sliding through the all time. And again, if a guy's playing multiple hands, he's either so rich, he doesn't give a fuck, or he's a guy that's playing a lot of poker, or excuse me, in this case, playing a lot of blackjack. And, you know, if he's a regular, every, you know, he's in there all the time. I mean, this is, this is normal. I've seen guys have the whole table to themselves if they want to, and they're playing enough, but I've also seen people let people in.

So I don't think it's entirely rude. I think it could be completely rude to somebody that doesn't have any experience with it because they're like, are you serious? I'm like, well, yeah, it's actually a thing that happens. Anyway, so what bugged me the most is I was at one of the only $10 minimum bet tables in the casino, and there had been a little tough to find a seat at. Probably could have guessed that. Dave was betting $50 to $100 per hand, and there was a $50 minimum bet table wide open next to us.

Also, if Dave had been playing all six hands on the table, was nobody else allowed to play there? I've seen it. I mean, I've seen it, and it's kind of like, now, you know, find another table. Is nobody else allowed to play there? I've seen it. I mean, I've seen it and it's kind of like now, you know, find another table. But again, that guy would have to have enough juice or betting enough that the dealer would think it was okay. So yeah, actually that would check out too.

I'm sure there's going to be some other people who say absolutely not. You can't do that. I don't know. I've seen it. Because I'm way younger and definitely a less experienced blackjack player than Dave, I didn't feel qualified to say anything to him about it, although Dave did try to stop me from hitting on my 16 against the 7, even though basic strategy says to hit, and he was trying to help me play the odds correctly.

That's weird. Unless he was counting, and he thought he had a good number. But yeah, you're supposed to hit on the 16 against the 7. Because you're probably going to fucking lose anyway. That's the point. That's the rationale to hit on the 16 against the 7 because you're probably going to fucking lose anyway. That's the point. That's the rationale behind hitting on the 16.

So I don't know. I mean, if he was really... Then he was kind of helping you as he was playing. That's... But I don't know if he's counting, you know, or... You know what I should say? Or attempting to count, which is what...

He's got a secret. Counting. Well, no, the counting part... Gambling secret like me and Cerrut a counting well no the counting secret like no the card the counting isn't that hard it's just that hard to keep track of that and then do the true count and then you know like understand every single hand likelihood of you know all you're doing is slightly increasing your odds so i don't know know if that's why he was saying that, but just straight up not trying to do anything, 16 on 7. So that's weird.

My question to you is this, does Dave really have priority to play two hands if somebody else asks for the empty seat? If he does not have priority, should I have said something to Dave? I shouldn't say anything to Dave. Should I say something to the dealer or pit boss? Love your show. Yeah, I don't think you say anything there.

I don't know this well enough, but I think the dealer could probably say something if they wanted to. And if they're not, and they're letting him say, sorry, I'm playing two hands, he's probably somebody that they have in there all the time. The part where he's betting $50 and $100 on hand

and there's an open table at a $50 minimum means that is kind of annoying i get it but i'm gonna i'm gonna say that you were better off not saying anything and in the future i wouldn't say anything either especially when in no offense like the 10 tables like people kind of give you a hard time anyway that's a telling it all because it's it's basically everybody kind of looks at that as like, oh, you know, you're just here to play some cards, guys, you know, whatever. And I know

it sounds, look, that was the only table I would ever play on myself. I remember waiting and waiting and waiting because I just didn't have enough money to lose on anything else. And I honestly, I don't like going and sitting down and whipping your dick out to be like, oh, I'm playing, you know, $500 fucking hands because I don't want to lose that money either.

So that's not where that's coming from. But yeah, I don't know. You guys, anything? I look at it sort of like I was a bus guy. I rode the bus to work for almost three years here when I first came out here. And, you know, sometimes sometimes the bus is full and there's, you know, people standing and you're like, am I going to be a standing guy? Or there's a guy with a big ass backpack right next to a seat. And what do I do?

I'll point and he'll shake his head no. It's like, all right, I guess it's no. I think that sucks. I think you probably know it sucks, but you're cool with it. What am I going to do? Go up to the bus driver and be like, hey, this guy in the middle of the bus back here is not letting me sit down. He totally could. That's how I look at most of those

situations. Just like, yeah, it sucks. I won't do that to people, but it's done. It's just kind of regular. I wouldn't let myself think about it too much. Just how it works. I assume that there is got to be some advantage of playing two hands at a full

table versus like him jumping up to the 25 table and playing by himself i would assume that's the reason he's doing this no there actually isn't and that's where the emailer story and i don't think he realizes sorry interrupts rudy no i'm even realize yeah i don't even think the emailer realizes that like that sort of proves a weird point in this, that if you really are that guy and know what the fuck is going on, even though I'm a little suspicious on the 6 versus 17, why wouldn't you just want to play

and be in control of two or three hands at another table as opposed to, and again, this is why I bring up the $10 hand thing, it's just considered very jv that most of the people are kind of like hey i want to play some cards for the night and this isn't about being in anybody's wallet it's about understanding like who's gonna fuck up the flow if they do or don't know what they're doing and more often than not the higher end table those people are actually going to know what they're doing more so than the five and ten dollar hand people who are just kind of fired up to play fucking blackjack and being a casino and

get some free drinks out of the whole thing so if this guy is like sorry you know i've got he shouldn't even be at this table with a bunch of people that more often than not at the lower end tables are going to be less likely to know all the different combinations of what they're supposed to do or not supposed to dealers answering a lot of questions at those tables. Yeah, right. Shout out to the roulette, the beginner roulette table. That is brutal. My guess, my educated guess on this one

is again, it is not a hard and fast rule. Like if the dealer wants to do something, they probably could. But if they didn't, I think that's their sign to lay out on that one. Yeah.

One of my least favorite, I'm not a big blackjack guy. I have buddies that are. And you know, the person at the table, if you're like a hardo at a $10 table being like, Hey dude, like that's the wrong play.

And you screwed everybody else over. Like, I don't like, I look at the black. If you want to play by the, if you want to play by the card, then do, then do you,

but understand that the $10 table, like this isn't how it's going to work. Like it's, it's, it's kind of how it looks like the, the John Harbaugh, like analytics thing. Like I don't always follow it 100% of the way,

but sometimes it's vibe betting. Do I feel a good vibe about hitting on this when I know that the card says I shouldn't? And people that get mad about that, if you're at a $10 table, then that's on you, man. So I would say there's really no way for you to get this guy kicked off the table, right? Because nobody's trying to lose money intentionally to get this guy pissed off enough to leave. So you're kind of just shit out of luck no I don't think that's but I mean this would be like certain certain players like if you're a pickup basketball game you kind of look around and see see what the rest of the group is like you're not

going to yell at some other guy like you need to stay at the nail you know like you're not you would yell at him screen sound yeah right although I did infamously yell don't shoot that to a guy on my team once. Oh, no.

And couple buddies have still to this day never let me live it down. And I was like, it was an awful shot. It was game. And I was like, don't shoot that. And they were like, I can't believe you actually said to another guy in a pickup game, don't shoot that. That you just straight up did not know. Didn't know. Yeah, I think that's fair.

Oh, no. You need to know the boundaries yeah but there was no I mean there was no chance this person out of the five he was the worst option of the five should not have been taking the shot it was an intense game and I just like I can't believe this guy actually thinks he's going to go fucking

make a fucking Kobe on us here yeah anyway all right that's life advice we'll be back on Friday remember three days a week thanks to Rudy. Thanks to Kyle. The Rhyme of a Single Podcast from your Spotify. Outro Music