The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Is Tua a Starter Again? Plus, Why Kyler’s Play Isn’t Sustainable and Trey Lance’s Future With Trent Dilfer.

Episode Date: September 19, 2022

Russillo shares his thoughts on QB Tua Tagovailoa after his six-touchdown performance vs. the Ravens, Kyler Murray's athletic ability, a shaky start for the Broncos, and more (0:42). Then Ryen is join...ed by Super Bowl champion Trent Dilfer to discuss the Dolphins' comeback win vs. the Ravens, how coach Mike McDaniel can maximize Tua's potential with game-planning, why Kyler Murray has the highest ceiling and the lowest floor, Broncos HC Nathaniel Hackett's early coaching struggles, the versatility and impact of Micah Parsons, Trey Lance's season-ending injury, and more (23:01). Then Ryen answers some listener-submitted Life Advice questions (56:26). Host: Ryen Russillo Guest: Trent Dilfer Producers: Kyle Crichton and Steve Ceruti Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I love today's podcast. I will start with reassessing my Tua take from a week ago. He was incredible. A couple of other things, I'll get to the NFL. I could have gone for an hour straight, but we're going to let Trent Dilfer do that. He's talking Tua. He's talking Kyler. A little Dallas in there.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Some really disappointing thoughts on Trey Lance with this latest injury. We're going to let Trent Dilfer do that. He's talking Tua. He's talking Kyler. A little Dallas in there. Some really disappointing thoughts on Trey Lance with this latest injury. And we don't seem to lose any bets, but we're not going to be arrogant about it. But we have an incredible record, so we'll talk about that. Cerruti has a system. Question mark, exclamation point. And life advice. Enjoy.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Didn't look like a great slate to start the weekend for week two of the NFL, but the closing windows of the early games and then the afternoon games, I mean, this is nuts. I mean, we didn't even deserve a close game at the end of Sunday night because the end of these two windows were incredible, massive comebacks, history all over the place. We'll get to it, but that's not why you're here. No, I know why you're here. You want to talk about Tua. you want to talk about Tua. So last week, I said, with some reservation, because I don't think I normally do that, because I was like, you know what? Two years of this, watch the Pats game.
Starting point is 00:01:14 By the way, I know a lot of people think like it was a Pats-related lean. I don't care about the Pats. I just, I don't even think they're that good. I'm indifferent on Mac Jones. Maybe they're going to run the football a ton. Winning at Pittsburgh against Trubisky is not that big of a deal, especially with Watt being out.
Starting point is 00:01:26 So I just watched it. It was like, hey, they won, but it doesn't feel any different. And I said, I think he might be a backup, or he is a backup. I even said, as I was doing it, I'm like, yeah, I don't normally do this, but this is how I feel, and I wrote it down, and now I'm going to say it. And then that's the breakout video.
Starting point is 00:01:41 And in the first half of the game against Baltimore I felt the same way I was like yeah I don't know and then he turned into a hall of famer 469 yards six touchdowns uh I mean he hits he hits Gusecki on that third down which is incredible Hill twice. Waddle. He had that rollout against pressure where he threw it. Granted, being left-handed was perfect for him in that spot.
Starting point is 00:02:14 He put on an absolute show against a Baltimore team now. Defensively, it's too early this year, but this is kind of a weird trend because they've had some bad defensive teams. This is arguably, statistically, if you go on expected points allowed defensively, this is Baltimore's worst defensive performance in 382 games. And Tua shred them. And what was unfair about what I said was that this is a new system, a new coach that clearly trusts him way more than the previous regimes that he's dealt with.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Looking back at Flores and some of the stuff that they would do him, again, Brian Flores is a defensive guy. He's not exactly calling the offensive plays, but it was just very clear they did not trust their quarterback. That's one of the first things I look at. I'll never forget it with Mitch Trubisky in Chicago. I was like, oh, they don't trust him. I'm not saying that Mitch should be trusted,
Starting point is 00:03:01 but you can start to see the way a team calls plays for the QBs. These QBs that are in this category of the unknown, the way they call plays will tell you a lot about how the staff feels about them. And that will influence how I will feel about the quarterback. Well, hell, if these guys have them in practice every single day, then how would I know better than they do? But what was unfair is that he's loaded with weapons. I think they did some really smart stuff with Tua where it was quick, where it was, hey, this is automatically,
Starting point is 00:03:31 it's going to be an easier throw, but it's going to be quick. It's going to be a pivot out to the left. It's going to be show something here, and then this is one throw, where instead of having you have to drop back and stay in the pocket all day long like this traditional passer,
Starting point is 00:03:43 which isn't even, like guys are rolling out all over the place now. That part of it all was unfair. Now, the reason for my disappointment, even talking about him last week and the way that I did was that it's because I actually liked him so much is that I thought he was going to be really good. I thought he had this extra thing that I'm always trying to find when I'm evaluating quarterbacks, which I think is just really hard to identify because if I can't do it,
Starting point is 00:04:06 hell, if they can't do it, they do it for a living. I don't expect that I'm going to be able to do it all the time. And so, you know, was it that he was awful? Well, you know, when the defense was below average for Miami, Tua had been 1-8. If the defense carried him, then they could win some football games. They had that run last year where I really think it had more to do with the schedule and the defense and field position than it did
Starting point is 00:04:24 with just Tua being better than maybe some of us were giving him credit for. But it's like if Christopher Nolan wrote a movie where, again, Tua's not exactly Christopher Nolan yet. He was in the second half. But if Christopher, like I like the movie Overboard. Check it out, kids. But if Christopher Nolan wrote Overboard, I'd be like, really, dude? We're going from Memento to this? Again, Overboard's pretty good. Would expect a little bit more for Christopher Nolan. So now the question is, have I changed my mind? Have you been listening to me at all for the last few years? It's going to take a little bit more than
Starting point is 00:05:01 an absurd and absurdly productive and historic all of the adjectives you want to throw on this thing. He was awesome. It could be because of the new regime and the trust and the weapons. This is the start of something new. But I'm not going to just dive headfirst in the opposite direction of how I felt about him for two plus years. But awful time. Legendarily bad timing.
Starting point is 00:05:23 awful timing, legendarily bad timing. And I will admit, as I said it last week, I still felt somewhat unfair about coming to that conclusion after just one game with a new regime. Kyler Murray's the best athlete in the NFL. What he did yesterday against the Raiders, down 20 to nothing, coming back, winning that game 29-23 in overtime. He is the best athlete in the NFL, and I also don't think it's sustainable.
Starting point is 00:05:46 We all saw the two-point conversion. You've seen it by now. 85-yard scramble. That took 21 seconds. It is the same guy that I remember watching at A&M the first time thinking like, wait, there's a quarterback ahead of Kyler Murray. The first time I watched him at A&M, I kept hearing about him. I remember Avery Johnson telling me about him when he was in high school, when Avery was with his ESPN. He's like, wait, I'm not going to do the Avery, but you can vision it, right? You can already hear it in your head. And he's like, oh, he's this baseball kid.
Starting point is 00:06:14 He's this football kid. And so I was kind of like paying a little bit more attention to him. And he immediately, when he got on the field, they're like, what are you talking? Like, this is insane. His ability to run away from people. Think about Max Crosby had him. He had him. And Kyler Murray, the diminutive Kyler Murray, was able to run away from people. Think about Max Crosby had him. He had him and Kyler Murray, the diminutive Kyler Murray
Starting point is 00:06:27 was able to get away and make a play. We know without John Dre Hopkins this team is not as good. Winning record with him, losing record without him, almost a touchdown worst on offense. It looked like it was happening again because Kyler just wasn't that good for most of this game. But allow me a Joe Burrow comp
Starting point is 00:06:43 because Burrow yesterday, getting his ass kicked again with four new offensive line members of that unit, right? They changed that in the offseason. We knew it was a big problem. It's a bigger problem now. I don't know what the hell's going on.
Starting point is 00:06:55 He's on pace to now be sacked 111 times. That would be a lot. I don't think it's going to happen, but he's getting his ass kicked. And that Cowboys game was a grind. A grind. But a really good quarterback starts to realize,
Starting point is 00:07:12 okay, these are the things that aren't working, and now I have to adapt to the things around me. I can't rely on blocking or, hey, nobody's getting open. I need to step up the risk on some of my throws. And that becomes, as I mentioned, how often I'm trying to figure out this quarterback riddle. That becomes something, because I used to think like, oh, no interceptions, that's the best,
Starting point is 00:07:31 never turns the football over. No interceptions is actually bad, unless I think you're like the Rodgers or the prime Bradys or maybe even Mahomes. But at some point, you have to up your risk, as I've mentioned. And for some of these QBs now that have these awesome TD interception ratios, I'm like, yeah, but that's actually kind of bad because it tells me you are safe all of the time
Starting point is 00:07:50 when your team needs you to not be safe. And that's what Burrow, granted he's unsafe behind that O-line, but that's what Burrow does and gives his team still a chance. Granted, they lost in the last second field goal to Dallas, but gave himself a chance where for three hours, nothing is working out.
Starting point is 00:08:05 You look up and you go, wait, this game is tied now. And that's what I look at with the Kyler part of this. I'm not saying he's burrow. I'm not saying he's one of those guys that finds a way, but he did it yesterday when it looked like it was going awful for him, that nothing was working on offense. So if he's anything like that, if he's one of the quarterbacks where it doesn't look pretty the entire time, because I don't love the scrambling. I don't know how it holds up. I know it's a really, really great weapon. I think it's really great in week two. I don't know how it's
Starting point is 00:08:34 going to look in week 13. I've seen it before. It seems like his hits, when he's hurt, it lingers a little bit longer. We saw that at the end of the year last year. But now for Arizona, that start, when you go 0-2, 11.3% chance of making the playoffs versus a 42% chance when you go 1-1. Denver looked like for a while yesterday they were going to go 0-2, which would have meant losses to Seattle and Houston to start the season. If you look at the talent around the NFL, I think a good argument to be made that Houston and Seattle are among two of the worst rosters in the league.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Maybe Chicago would be in that group, too. Maybe we'll have a surprise a little bit later on from now. I don't think you put Jacksonville in that group anymore. Granted, no Sertain. Judy ends up going out. Simmons, the safety, ends up going out. But they're losing at home to the Houston Texans. And I'm like, are they really going to go 0-2?
Starting point is 00:09:26 Russell Wilson coming in. And really, a nice group of skill guys. Can I just do an aside here? Can we pretend that no one's actually offended by skill players versus non-skill players? Like, we get that O-line, D-line, linebacker safeties and all of you have
Starting point is 00:09:41 amazing skills, that it's actually not an insult. It's just a thing we'll call it guys that touch the football more i guess that would be less offensive guys that touch the ball more instead of skill players but anyway all right so let's talk about hackett because he is now he's arguably got the lowest approval rating of a head coach on social media in two weeks this is a new record for the quickest lowest approval rating of a head coach on social media in two weeks. This is a new record for the quickest, lowest Q rating ever for a head coach. 25 flags in two games. The red zone numbers suck. It's all passes, which apparently, and the theories appear to be on this one,
Starting point is 00:10:16 to appease Russ and letting him cook a little bit more. But the fans started counting down the play clock in Denver, their own fans, to help them out. Why? Well, let's run through the ends of halves here, because it's hard to be this bad this often, this quickly into the season. The end of the first half against Houston, fourth and goal at the one, delay a game, fourth and six, they end up making the field goal,
Starting point is 00:10:37 tie it up at 6-6. All right, whatever. Second half, Denver's down 9-6, third and one. They run that tight end option. They lose a yard on that one. They line up for a 54-yard field goal attempt. They get another delay a game, and then they punt. They burned a timeout by not having a punt returner on the field. They also burned another timeout because they didn't get a play in after a sack. Why did that matter? Because it's a week
Starting point is 00:10:58 after they didn't use a timeout from about 1.11 to 20 seconds left at the end of the game at Seattle where they brought Russell Wilson in and then they took him back out. They still had two timeouts left. I guess you could argue that Hackett was trying to at least play it safe with this stuff. I would actually rather not get cute with the clock because I also think penalty flags are thrown around so much on pass interference and defensive holding that when the clock or when your downs reset and you thought you were getting really cute by being like, we're only going to score with this much time left i think i'd actually have more chances even if it means i'm leaving a little bit more clock there that's my own theory
Starting point is 00:11:32 discuss if you must so they don't use the time out until 20 seconds left two left and then they bring russ out and they decide now let's kick a 64 field goal, which according to the stats in the NFL since 1991, teams are 2 of 35 on field goals from that distance or longer. So Wilson starts 6 of 20 in this game, 6 of 19 in the first half against Houston. It's his worst completion percentage in a half in his entire career. And then Denver starts booing him. They win this game. That's kind of irrelevant because the booing part and
Starting point is 00:12:05 the Russell Wilson thing, which is so surprising, I want to talk about booing here a little bit. Would I ever boo? No. I work in the media. I'm not the person that should be answering this question. I guess if I brought a couple of kids and made a sign and I was in my 40s and start booing like crazy, I don't know that I would do that. Again, I'm not a parent and I'm a member of the media. So I'm not the best person to ask. But I also think that the media, when they got on Seattle's case, when they were booing Russell Wilson in his return, for them to be like, how could you boo this guy? He's the greatest quarterback in franchise history, which is true. But that's not really the point. It's emotional. It's always weird when the person who has no emotional attachment thinks they should tell the person with the emotional attachment how
Starting point is 00:12:40 they should feel. It doesn't mean the advice is wrong, but it's just a lot easier for the person that doesn't care. I don't care. Many of the media members I saw for that Monday nighter do not care. But Russell Wilson wanted out. He wanted out of your city. And when somebody decides they don't want to be associated with your franchise or your city and the thing that you care about, maybe sometimes care about a little too much,
Starting point is 00:12:58 there's going to be a negative reaction. Guess what happens? Russell Wilson will have his name up in the stadium years from now, retire his jersey. Everyone will cheer him. And that will be the moment where they are grateful for what he brought to that city. But when it's pretty clear the guy wanted out for a long time and it just started to get weirder and weirder. And the other thing that I would add to this is this kind of backs up everything I always knew or thought about Wilson, where if I could have invested in, I don't know about that guy, I would have been able to retire because I feel like I was ahead of it. And I was always confused why people would ever even argue with me about it. I don't know about that guy. I would have been able to retire because I feel like I was ahead of it. I was always confused why people would
Starting point is 00:13:26 ever even argue with me about it. We've had two former receivers, Doug Baldwin, basically send out a little petty tweet. I don't even know what it was. Just sort of a cheerleader after Seattle lost, or excuse me, after Seattle beat Russell Wilson in Denver and his return back home
Starting point is 00:13:42 on that Monday night. Now you can say, hey, he's just a Seahawk. Not a big deal. Ah, no, no. And then Richard Sherman did the same thing yesterday while Wilson was struggling. That's two former teammates. That doesn't really happen a lot. It's happened with Aaron Rodgers and former teammates.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I remember one of the offensive linemen for the Steelers kind of called out Le'Veon Bell a little bit on the holdout, which is weird because you're just not used to offensive linemen seeming like they're anything but team first. But it just, I think, hammers home a point that when Wilson's playing great, you sign up for all of it, as I would too. But I was reading this preview of that Seahawks-Denver game from The Athletic, and there was a quote in there that just kind of hammers home all the stuff that I've been trying to say. Here's the article. Before the NFL draft in April, which Wilson recounted last week in the quarterback's telling, he was invited into
Starting point is 00:14:29 GM George Patton's office, again, Broncos GM, while Patton was studying draft eligible wide receivers and asked to contribute to the evaluation process. Quote from Wilson, we watched every single receiver, literally. And when I say every single receiver, we watched every single receiver for about a good hour, hour and a half, two hours. We watched every single guy. And then we came across this guy named Montrell Washington. We looked at each other and said, hey, he may be the one. There were 87 draft eligible wide receivers for the 2022 draft. have two hours. Let's average it out to 90 minutes. That's 87 receivers, 90 minutes. It's 130 hours. That means if you're watching film on receivers three hours a day, because you got kids and other stuff going on, that's 43 days spent watching receivers. Maybe they doubled up. Maybe it was 22. Guess what probably didn't happen? That. Moving on. How about the Browns? All right. Quoting Mike Santos, historic collapses. A lot went wrong for the Browns to lose this game up 13.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I know a lot of people are saying Chubb should have just knelt before going into the end zone. I don't know. Two touchdown lead, a minute and a half left. Probably feel pretty good about it. Kareem Hunt going out of bounds before the two-minute warning at 202 to me is much worse than Chubb going out of bounds because you figure we're going to be good.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Cade York misses the extra point. So teams leading by 13 points with two minutes to 1.30 left in the game were 201-0 since 2000. What if they had made the extra point? Again, Sando points out the team's up 14 with two minutes to 1.30 to go. We're 338-1. The only loss, the Browns to the Bears in 2001.
Starting point is 00:16:19 For college football, I'm going to start ranking because we're going to have an expanding playoff to 12 teams where we're going to reward some teams for never playing anybody out of conference and having an easy division. Then they're going to have a chance to win a national championship. Awesome. Sweet. It will happen and people will go, wait, was Ursula right about this? But that's okay. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:37 It's happening. I'm going to rank the top 12 teams. I'm going to do it starting Wednesday. I could do some A&M Miami stuff here. It was a pretty light slate. I mean, I could talk about college football all day. I could do some A&M Miami stuff here. It was a pretty light slate. I mean, I could talk about college football all day. I could do an hour on the NFL. I'm not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:16:50 We're going to ask Trent about some of these things. But yeah, coming up Wednesday, I'm going to rank the top 12 in college football, and we're going to do it every single week. Football season is underway, so now's the perfect time to download FanDuel, America's number one sportsbook, because right now, new customers get a no-sweat
Starting point is 00:17:06 first bet up to $1,000. That's three bets back. If your first bet doesn't win, just sign up with the promo code RYAN, R-Y-E-N. Okay, it needs to be discussed. Everybody won their bet again this weekend, too, including two same-game parlays.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Yeah. Well, I did, yeah, same-game parlay. Kyle still has one leg left, but we're feeling confident about it tonight. Because he did... Yours was like plus 300, Kyle. You had like a long shot at that. Yeah, it's on my board right now.
Starting point is 00:17:32 It's plus 304. Yeah. So... So what do you need to have happen tonight for you to close that? Vikings just have to win. Vikings just have to beat the Eagles, which I think is probably fine.
Starting point is 00:17:42 And then we're 6-0 in our bets. That feels a little confident. So that would be 6-0 in our bets. That feels a little confident. So that would be 6-0. So I think we're 22-4. Maybe we did figure something out. No, I've been around way too long. All right. Do you want to share what your thing is here?
Starting point is 00:17:58 Do we just... Because you... So Rudy, just so the audience understands this. So Rudy's been telling you for like the last couple weeks, and I guess it started with soccer, that he goes, I figured out a way in the same game parlay to adjust the line, and he thinks he's cracked the code. I've seen too many people get their dicks kicked in in this game for too long
Starting point is 00:18:17 to think anybody that's ever figured any code out other than Haralobob betting the overs in the second half, which was just a stroke of genius and even more genius once you realize how basic it was. I think there's probably a little bit more to it with just how good he was and why people hold him to such legendary status. But we're on fire, and I've just been looking at whatever the highest public money is
Starting point is 00:18:38 and giving out. I didn't even like giving out Dallas, and they won the game, and they were getting seven and a half on FanDuel. So that's what I'm going to stick with and you guys are crushing the parlays because I still think in our standings thing, when you win in the same game
Starting point is 00:18:52 parlay, it should count as two wins versus my straight up win. You guys should get two wins in our standings and I should only get one picking something straight up because the parlay is like, this is nuts. So alright, fine. Tell us, Saruti, what is happening? That's why I shouldn't get credit for every individual pick because I'm taking adjusted lines in total. So like I had the Packers, for example, last weekend, I think they were a 10
Starting point is 00:19:12 and a half point favorite against the bears. I had them at six and a half. So all they had to do is win by a touchdown. And I just parlay that with like a higher total and take the under. And that's you're, you're going to win. Like, I think it's a better option than teasing. I'm not a gambling expert. Nobody really is. I kind of think of think i mean i think some people kind of have their their nose to the ground well there are but there are people like stanford steve is really i mean i get it he's he's really good at that i think the gambling hardo thing is really annoying the gambling back and forth stuff is very odd like as soon as you pick something that goes wrong it's like i I always knew.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Every guy out there just wants, I don't know, people want this gambling cred. Hey, fine. Cool. Take it all. You can have it all. I'm not fighting for it. The band analogy is perfect. It's like, oh, cool. Now we can't also enjoy this because you were here first.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Okay, that's fun. Awesome, dude. Cool. All right. All right, I think we have it then. So wait, you're adjusting the lines, but you still have to hit both. What are the payouts then?
Starting point is 00:20:15 It's about even money. I used to try to aim for even money. Another good example would be week one. I took the Chiefs' money line against the Cardinals, parlayed that with Patrick Mahomes over 250 yards passing and then it adjusted over of 39 and a half like those two teams are going to score a ton that's going to hit more often than it's not like it just is and it's even money uh I think that it's going to
Starting point is 00:20:35 hit more often than it's not could sound a tad aggressive hey listen my fan dual account uh begs to differ right now well good for you man you, man. Good for you. All right. And Kyle, you're on fire. So we'll see what happens with Minnesota tonight. Yeah. I mean, honestly, with this kind of start, it's absurd. You might want to start fading us, but we're still going to give you out those picks. The first thing I'm looking at for this week is another heavy public bet. Percentage of the bets now almost 90% on the Niners minus one at Denver. Nobody likes
Starting point is 00:21:08 Denver right now. So that's why I'm probably going to give out Denver. We'll see what happens with that line. If it moves another public number, that's really big. The Chiefs minus six and a half at the Colts, 87% of the bets are on the Chiefs. And this is according to the one website that I use that tracks this. So you could get a slightly different percentage somewhere else, but it's pretty revealing. Like you can see where the money split down the middle. You can also see there's a difference
Starting point is 00:21:33 between money and percentage of bets. So that's what I've been going with because I actually think the history of that is better than just going, hey, this team's better than that team. I'm going to lay a touchdown. FanDuel has all your favorite bets from the money line to point spreads
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Starting point is 00:23:00 Every other Monday with Trent Dilfer. So let's start with it. After week one of TUA, I was like, I don't know, man. If it doesn't happen in year two, it's alarming. I know they won, and then he puts on an absolute show in week two. So thoughts? Well, I think the biggest thing is the 17-8 in 25 starts.
Starting point is 00:23:22 This game is about winning. He's been a winner forever. And I do think there's something to do guys being a winner since they came out of the womb. Some guys know how to win. Some guys don't. He's always been a winner. I think he's going to win in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Is he going to always do it the way the modern day fan, the fantasy owners want him to do it? Probably not. He is conservative by nature in a good way. He takes his spots when he takes, you know, he takes, he looks for opportunities to take chances, but he's not going to take a lot.
Starting point is 00:23:58 And I think he's got the perfect fit now on Coach McDaniel. Let's not forget Coach McDaniel has behind the scenes, been a guy that the guys that know football in the NFL will say is the next Sean McVay. He is kind of that boy wonder, play caller, play designer. And he likes to do it.
Starting point is 00:24:19 And I think it matters when you like your quarterback. You like what he has to offer. You like the skill set that he has. You have two explosive perimeter guys in Tyreek Hill and Waddle that are also jack-of-all-trade guys. They're not one-dimensional like an A.J. Green that can only show up out on the perimeter.
Starting point is 00:24:35 They're guys that can play outside and inside. They can be creative with them as ball carriers whether they're from the running back position or from the slot bubble type guy. It gives you a lot of flexibility offensively when you're creative as an offensive play caller. So a long-winded way of saying,
Starting point is 00:24:53 I told everybody so, just kidding. This is what you need if you're Tua. You need this type of offense around you. Now, a lot of that was Baltimore's dysfunction. A lot of it, you know, he should not have thrown six touchdowns, but if he only throws three in that game and they lose by 14, I still think he plays pretty well. I thought he played well the first week. Uh I think he's doing what he's asked to do. Uh they haven't started running the ball to the
Starting point is 00:25:20 expectation of coach McDaniel. I think they will. Uh I think there's really positive signs that this is going to be a quote-unquote breakout year for Tua. Is he going to be the MVP? No. Are they going to win the Super Bowl? No. Is he getting MVP votes? Even no. But I think you're going to see this year
Starting point is 00:25:37 being the year where everybody goes, okay, now I'm starting to see how this guy can be one of the better quarterbacks in the nfl i love what mcdaniel is doing in and i don't i don't know if this is like part of the the growth of like opening things up right it's like it's even with two it's like wait i've got tyreek on like just busting up the coverage back there all right well now you know let's make sure i'm looking for that here uh i thought the rollout played it was left left where he gets away from the pass rush and then, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:09 lines it up perfectly. The Gusecki throw, the wall throw. I mean, these are awesome throws, but I also see McDaniel doing some stuff for him where it's like, we don't want you even thinking. We don't want you thinking. We want the ball out this quickly to kind of get the rhythm going here and you know sometimes i'll be like well is that because they don't want him back there traditionally going through all of his reads because i actually thought at bama like that was one of the things i really liked about him he was one of the rare college quarterbacks where i felt like he was looking at the different levels and throwing with anticipation and and look it wasn't one read and then fucking run like half the guys I watch on Saturday. I thought he had all those things.
Starting point is 00:26:45 But I think McDaniels is mixing up what they're asking him to do, which either keeps him engaged, the defense guessing or whatever. But I just liked it because it seemed like there was just more to it than what I've seen in the previous two years. Yeah. Okay. So let's get into this because you let me kind of do some long form stuff here. You're actually bringing up what I think is a topic that nobody will really understand, but they need to know about. When those of us in the football world that respect each other in the quarterback world,
Starting point is 00:27:16 get together and talk about offense, play calling, whatever it is. So your list of your favorite guys. So we're all in this big inner circle together. We your list of your favorite guys. So we're in, we're all in this big inner circle together. We talk about what you just said, and that is the quarterback should not be expected for 30 times a game to drop back and play the position the way the fan thinks he should play the position. You're actually doing your quarterback a disservice by doing that. The best way to develop a team and an offensive team, a quarterback, receivers, runners, offensive line, is to give them these, what we call freebies. You should be good enough
Starting point is 00:27:55 as a coach. You should work hard enough as a coach to give your players freebies. Plays where they don't have to think. We out X and O them and we're going to make you look really good doing so. By the way, this happens for Aaron Rodgers, people. He doesn't put on the Superman cape 32 times a game. He plays about 15 plays a game where he has to be Aaron Rodgers. Anybody that plays for Sean McVay gets to do this. Anybody that plays for Mike McDaniel gets to do this. Anybody that plays for Mike McDaniel gets to do this. Anybody that plays for Kyle Shanahan gets to do this.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Anybody that plays for Lincoln Riley gets to do this. Anybody that plays for Ryan Day gets to do this. Anybody that plays for Chip Kelly gets to do this. Anybody that plays with those 15 to 20 guys out there that are really, really, really good at offense, you will not be expected to do fulfill reads a bunch. You'll be expected on third and eight to do it. You'll be expected when you're down on 21 to do it, but we're going to call
Starting point is 00:28:55 a game where we're going to take some of that burden from you. My quarterback threw six touchdowns the other night. Four of them he didn't have to think about a thing. It was told to him, and he just knew it when he went to the line of scrimmage. He was getting the ball how he was going to get it and how he was going to score. We just out-coached the team for four touchdowns. He earned two of them. Two of them, he went and played quarterback better than most high school kids can play. Watch Caleb Williams play at USC this year.
Starting point is 00:29:21 He'll throw 45 and be my guest this year, or he'll account for 45 to 50 this year. He'll earn on his own 18 to 23 of them. The rest will be Lincoln Riley play designs. They're just better than you could defend. You see us all the time. When you're, when you're really studying offensive football, when Mike March was coaching,
Starting point is 00:29:43 he's still one of the great offensive minds of all time. If you did it the way Mike asked you to do it, if Kurt just did it the way Mike asked you to do it, you're guaranteed 15 to 20. They're just going to be there. Tom Brady in New England with Josh McDaniel. I can go on and on and on.
Starting point is 00:29:59 They're just the great coaches to take that weight off of your shoulders so that you're freed up when we do need you. There's going to be times like, yo, they're outcoaching me. You've got to go play. You've got to go play football. And I think that's really when you see the next level to the quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:30:20 I don't know if Tua has that yet. We'll see because Mike's not going to out-coach everybody every single week. But he showed signs of it yesterday afternoon. He showed signs when you're down. You score four touchdowns in the fourth quarter, you're doing something pretty well. The touchdown to Waddle, he pins the free safety to the left to cover Hill and Gusecki so that there's run after the catch
Starting point is 00:30:43 or Waddle doesn't get his brains beat him because that stink nod by the number three receiver that free safety should have that like that's not a great matchup you're looking for two high they're not one high he gets one high he moves that safety to the left so that Waddle can beat the linebacker and then he back shoulders it so that the free safety can't come over there after he's already moved them. So there's some nuance to his game we're already seeing. So I know that was a really long-winded answer,
Starting point is 00:31:12 but I need to say that you need, as an offensive play caller, and I go all around the country and talk about this, you got to take the burden off of your, if you're going to throw it 30 times, 15 of them, you should take the burden off the quarterback. I love that answer. Okay, let's talk about Kyler. In the open, I said he's the best athlete in the NFL. Watching that game yesterday, I don't know how it's sustainable.
Starting point is 00:31:36 It's fun. It's amazing. It was also a mess at times. And I think the Kyler part of it is when he's, you know, it's kind of reminds me of Carson Wentz discussion. I kept listening to all the ex quarterbacks rave and rave and rave about Carson Wentz. So I'm like, well, shit, if these guys are all freaking out about him, then there has to be something to this, right? Even, even former quarterbacks that disagree with each other about stuff. And then I realized I'm like, you know what? It's the Carson Wentz throws that he
Starting point is 00:32:02 can do that other guys can't do, which is propping him up in a way where there's still some buy-in. So for me with Kyler, when it's great, it's indefensible. There's nothing you can do against the guy, but it also scared the shit out of me yesterday. I really can't add anything to that. It's the highest ceiling and the lowest floor. And I think, again, you go back to pre-draft, I think I was as high on Kyler as anybody.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I mean, I watched the guy never lose a Texas 7A high school football game. I coached him out of the Elite 11. I saw him do things I'd never seen a player do before. I didn't care. I remember I said one time, Rich Eisen, he goes, he's only 5'11". I said, I don't care if he's 5'4". Like, I really don't care how tall he is.
Starting point is 00:32:45 The things I've seen the kid do are, you can't explain. Some guys would care, but yeah, yeah. Yeah, you can't explain. My point, I was exaggerating to make the point that he just has magic. He is absolutely magical with what he can do. But to let him cook, right? We saw this with Russ. I think Russ is a really good example here.
Starting point is 00:33:07 When we let Russ cook in Seattle, you also let Russ take 16 yard sacks, lose you a couple games, throw some interceptions, do some crazy frenetic things, but you got the high ceiling as you got the low floor. When you truly just unleash that type of football player. I think Kyler's a great example of this. When you just say, okay, we're willing to live with all the other stuff, but have them try to tackle, have them try to sustain coverage for 12 seconds. Like have them try to do this stuff. Like you're also going to get these amazing splash impactful plays.
Starting point is 00:33:43 It's can you, and I don't know the answer to this. Can you finish? Can you win a Super Bowl doing it? And I would lean on Steve Young for this one. Worked with him. One of my best friends would sit there every week and listen to it. He said, we could win a lot of games when I was the best athlete on the field. And Bill Walsh, George, just kind of unleashed me.
Starting point is 00:34:04 But I realized we'd never win a Superbowl. We'd never win a Superbowl until I could do the boring, monotonous managerial things well. And then trust that I could still be the greatest athlete on the field when I needed to be. Well, guess what? They won a Superbowl with Steve, the year he was the most efficient he had ever been. He was the surgeon, not the butcher, but he still made all those splash plays. So I guess my point is that I can't take my eyes off of it. We did this show early last year after Kyler did something incredible earlier in the year. I'm watching Red zone and I don't want them to change away from the Cardinals game. I'm trying to find a local feed to get that game. Cause that's the only, I only want to watch
Starting point is 00:34:52 football when he's playing quarterback. Like that's what I, I could care less about watching some of this other stuff. I can just watch NFL films, highlights and understand what happened in the game. But I don't want to miss a snap of what Kyler Murray does because once they do the boring, monotonous managerial stuff well and they can do this other stuff, I don't know how you stop the offense. I really don't. I'm not smart enough. Okay, so that's, I think, a departure
Starting point is 00:35:18 for where it feels like so much of the media thinks Cliff Kingsbury is terrible. My argument that's pro-Cliff is that before he got there, it was three non-winning seasons seasons three and thirteen the last year before he gets there five and ten eight and eight to eleven and six he was brought in to develop kyler i still think that that contract for him is is a pretty big like confirmation of you're the guy where it's like man all right we'll see what happens front office cliff they extensions. I read into the people that study it more than I do and better than I do. They'll be like, oh, there's no
Starting point is 00:35:48 lack of motion. We don't like his formations. There's no creativity. It feels like the football media thinks Cliff now is holding him back where I feel like when they win, it's only because everybody else. And when they lose, it's only because of Kingsbury when in fact, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:04 they probably lose because Hopkins isn't playing in the games. They're about a touchdown worse when Hopkins isn't out there. What do you see with the system and the cliff and the development part about this? Like, I don't know what your relationship is with him. I feel like I'm at times arguing a point that's like if the goal were to improve the franchise and develop the quarterback, then that's what he's done. But then again, the playoff game last year was a complete disaster, and that was the last thing we had seen, obviously, prior to the first. Look, they got the
Starting point is 00:36:30 Chiefs. Who knows what's going to happen next week? The schedule was tough, so give me your view. Don't know him. Studied him for years, still a little bit. Don't study as much pro stuff. Study more college stuff. Now, when I say study, like all 22, taking notes, schemes, blah, blah, blah, study more college stuff. Now, when I say study, like all 22 taking notes,
Starting point is 00:36:46 schemes, blah, blah, blah, blah, nobody cares. Um, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:52 I don't, I think watching them. And again, I can't keep my eyes off them. I think the offense was built and all the off season work goes into having Hopkins, right. It's structured a certain way to create space, create width,
Starting point is 00:37:09 and you don't have Hopkins there, and the data shows you. You're just not as good. He's obviously one of the best players in the league. I've never been a huge A.J. Green fan. I thought he was really good. I'm not saying he's chopped liver, but I never thought he was an alpha, right? I never thought he was one of those alpha takeover game guys. I thought he was a great supplement to Hopkins. So now you're kind of playing the game half the field, right? You're playing with Ertz, AJ, the runner, and then
Starting point is 00:37:41 really Kyle. Yeah, Marquise Brown, no more, you know, which also hurts. But Marquise Brown wouldn't block you. And that's a whole another time. We should do a topic one time. We should do a segment on why can't you run the ball because your receivers are soft. Like running the football in the NFL takes
Starting point is 00:37:59 tough guy receivers. When you refuse to block people, when you refuse to put your hands on people, it's really hard to run the ball. I mean, Marquise Brown yesterday on the broken play, well, it's not broken play, audibles to option,
Starting point is 00:38:14 late in the game to the left, and they praise the Raiders' free safety from coming out of the middle. That was the Duran play, and it's the first thing I saw on the left sideline. Like, Brown wasn't even, go ahead. And I guarantee you that Duran makes a great play but he ain't making it right himself he ain't making that play by himself okay so that ball's going to be pitched the free safety is
Starting point is 00:38:36 going to come down he hasn't met she takes a great angle but if if Brown blocks the corner and the corner doesn't show up he's going to get more yards. Then the throw to Marquise Brown, that's a great throw. In the NFL, that's 100 for 100. Catch, tuck, protect your body, understand the situation. That ball's never coming out. He kind of spins, balls out there. He wants to go score with it. That's what he wants to do.
Starting point is 00:39:03 He doesn't understand. Catch the ball, protect it, get get down that stuff will drive you crazy and they immediately go to cliff on the sidelines he says catch the you know i mean he you could tell he's frustrated so again this is the this perception versus reality of the nfl is everybody goes oh wow he's so fast they got marquise Brown. They're going to be so explosive. And here's a coach being like, well, I'm limited in the run game. I'm limited in conflict catches. I'm limited in perimeter blocking in the perimeter passing game. He's a one trick pony. When you have a, when you have a Hopkins, he's a, he's the complete
Starting point is 00:39:41 wide receivers gnarly in the run game blocking. He's the gnarliest conflict catching guy in the NFL. He's a one-on-one nightmare and he makes everybody else better. And you see a lot of the creativity in the past game built around that. Now it might be his fault to call some of these plays. He calls, I remember this another great example, and I'm not just trying to pick on Hollywood Brown, but they throw, we call it whiz. It's this double stack with number three kind of running on the line in a scrimmage perimeter bubble,
Starting point is 00:40:12 and the two wide receivers sort it. So one wide receiver has what you'd call the MDM, the most dangerous man. The other receiver comes off of that to secure it, and then he's going to kick the next defender. It's one of the great perimeter passes in football. It's basically the modern-day way of running the old sweep that the Green Bay Packers ran
Starting point is 00:40:35 or the old counter-trade that the Washington Redskins have. It's a way of getting to the edge pretty safely. You only can do it if the receiver that has the point defender is violent. He doesn't have to win. He has to tie. So they run it. And some dude from the Raiders, 21, basically just blows on Marquise Brown and he gets out of the way and the number three receivers get the ball,
Starting point is 00:41:01 just gets lit up. And I'm like, okay, you can look at this two ways. One, if that's Hopkins on the point, that Raider dude doesn't pass the line of scrimmage he's gonna stone him with those big long arms those gnarly hands he's gonna work to the outside shoulder and just you know slobber knock him and it's gonna be an awesome football play or is Cliff stupid for calling it with Marquise Brown there as the point defender? I'll listen to both, but that's the difference that
Starting point is 00:41:29 a Hopkins makes. It allows you to run the offense that you envision. He's not running the offense he's envisioning. Another incredible answer. It does sound like you are suggesting that it'd be easy to block but we'll keep
Starting point is 00:41:45 it moving for the sake of time short arms just because the lack of length your stud just you lack natural length my my arms are longer than you realize we'll do a wingspan measurement we'll get you the latest numbers okay how does this nathaniel hackett thing happen here okay because i mean it's it's one thing to like fuck up on on the you know the monday nighter and you're going all right you've got timeouts what's the plan russ is going to come in let's convert fourth and five no let's try to kick a 64 yard you're like all right alarming and then you screw up the end of the first half of your home opener and then you've got all the situations i've gone over all of this in the opener but it's like it's kind of like three of
Starting point is 00:42:22 the four closing moments you've had you're you're you're you're fucking it up 75 of the time how does this happen with again i know he's a first time head coach but it's not like he's new to football yeah um i don't know because i live it in this and i i'm not trying to make a high school comparison to the NFL, but please, I'm not that stupid. But the complexity of being a play caller with managing the game, and you have to, every week, even at this level, it takes hours of what I call the lonely work of me sitting right where I'm sitting right now and playing the game throughout my head between the play caller and managing situations and calling my coaches up to the office to be okay we have this situation in this moment hey i'm going to get you on the phones we're on defensive comms i need this piece of information
Starting point is 00:43:14 let's get out ahead of this and you know so you're playing the game out ahead because it is hard and for years you've talked to a lot of offensive play callers that are head coaches that have to balance this. You have to have a plan for how you're going to balance all this stuff. It almost becomes system overload if you haven't prepped for it ahead of time. And I'm just wondering, I'm going to defend him here. I'll defend him to the end of the month. And then I won't defend him anymore. He's just learning for the first time how to do this,
Starting point is 00:43:46 how to run an offense, which is really hard to do, and run a team, which is even harder to do. And I bet you he's waking up again this morning going, oh my gosh, how did I make that mistake? Like if I was watching TV, I'd be mad at me too. Because every fan gets it. Every announcer gets it. Every pundit gets it.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Somehow I didn't get it in the moment, but I know that. I don't know how I didn't get that. Again, this isn't really an answer. It's just kind of a justification for how he could be making these egregious mistakes because I don't know him real well, but the people that I trust in the league, which you know is a short list. I mean, you're talking about 10 people
Starting point is 00:44:31 that I really, really admire and trust in the NFL. They all really think a lot of them. So, and these people aren't wrong, but these are the best of the best that have been doing it forever. And they're like, this guy, he's really good. He's really solid. So I'm guessing it's just system overload right now.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Who's the best you've ever been around at taking care of all of this stuff where there's just never a misstep? Well, Belichick, I've never been around him. I'm just studying it, watching it. You can just see it. You can just see that they've gone over everything exponentially more than everybody else has. Him not calling the timeout at the Seahawks Super Bowl, and then the explanation for why he was watching their sideline, understanding that, let me not bail them out here. I just don't think that list is very long of guys that are that aware of that many moving parts.
Starting point is 00:45:25 How about him knowing where Sean McVay was on the sideline, knowing what calls they were making based on where he was on the sideline? Oh, yeah. There's stuff that... Go a little deeper on that one then. So they knew what types of plays he would call based on where he stood on the sideline. Yeah. So there's stuff that they just do that very few have ever done.
Starting point is 00:45:52 And then when you're a coach and you want to be great at what you do, you study that stuff. You don't, you don't get defensive. I think what happens is a lot of coaches in football is they never thought through some of this stuff. So they get really defensive and then criticize instead of going, no, that guy's better than me. I'm going to learn from that because I want to be really good at my job one day.
Starting point is 00:46:10 I want to be one of the best. So like, as I remember when I got into coaching four years ago, I know a lot of football, a lot of offense. I mean, I've been around it a long time. I've studied, I've worked hard at it, but I'm like this Lincoln Riley guy, come on now, like he's doing some stuff that's really cool so I went to my vacation home in Tahoe and asked my wife this for six weeks I did nothing
Starting point is 00:46:30 but study Lincoln Riley eight hours a day studied Lincoln Riley for six weeks I think I knew Lincoln better than Lincoln knew himself then I find out his brother's really good at what he does so I start studying his brother and I'm like I'm a better coach because I now know kind of I've never talked to him about but. So I started studying his brother and I'm like, I'm a better coach because
Starting point is 00:46:45 I now know kind of, I've never talked to him about, but I think I figured out kind of the secrets here. And I think you have to do that with great guys that manage their teams really well. They they're great CEOs. Um, I, you know, I'm going to give him a a guy some props that not a lot would. My year in Cleveland, Romeo, and it wasn't just because he came from Belichick, Romeo was trying to do all this stuff really well.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I was actually really impressed with Romeo Cornell as a head coach, except for who he hired. What Romeo messed up was who he hired as his offensive coordinator i've said this the worst worst coach in the history of coaches but he put together an organizational structure and thought through all the minutiae of how you could win a game with inferior talent really well and he taught the right things. Like I would sit there in meetings and I was in my, what, my eight, nine, 10,
Starting point is 00:47:47 I was in my 12th year, I think. And I would sit there and go, okay, this guy, this guy gets it. Like he's going to create an opportunity for us to win every game if we do our jobs. And I think that's what the great head coaches do is they create an opportunity for players to be the best versions of themselves.
Starting point is 00:48:07 And if they do their jobs well, they'll handle the rest as coaches. Is Cooper Rush as good as Dak Prescott? He's a good player, but no, he's not as good as Dak Prescott. I think what it did, I read something this morning. What did I read? Did McCarthy criticize? Oh, basically he said, I need to get with Kellen Moore and teach him how to be a little more conservative.
Starting point is 00:48:34 It was something to that effect, right? Well, Phil Simms had also said there isn't any drop-off between Dak and Cooper. Well, yeah, I'm not going to get into that. But here's what I think happens, is you know the limitations of your quarterback. And I'm not saying get into that but here's what i think happens is you know the limitations of your quarterback and i'm not saying cooper has tons of limitations but he doesn't have as many reps right i mean he doesn't know the offense like the back of his hand like dac does so as a play
Starting point is 00:48:56 designer call you're like you're that week like okay what can we do really well, right? What's the best stuff we can do? And we'll do that. And oh my gosh, it worked. It was really effective. And Cooper looks great doing it. But if you actually watch the Cowboys offense, and again, I haven't studied all 22 and every offensive snap, but I did watch a lot of that game. I'm like, this is kind of like week one training camp install. camp install like this is week one ace naked you know two back run uh seven stop flat vertical activation like this is your day week one like here's our base offense this isn't all the layers
Starting point is 00:49:39 put onto the offense and i think now you play faster your identity, you kind of know what your identity is because all the players go, Oh yeah, I remember week one of training camp. This is the stuff we put in. We're pretty good at this. Now the fans didn't say, well, I don't do that stuff all the time. Well, because in the NFL, if you're not evolving week in and week out, they're going to figure this stuff out pretty quick, but you got one or two chances to run your base stuff with the new quarterback. So I think that's what you saw was you saw him call a game that was very in line with his exposure to this offense. It is what this offense does best because it's the stuff they've done most often. They always say they write a book on a backup quarterback and after about two to four weeks
Starting point is 00:50:25 that book will be written and defenses will respond to it i've always said that's a true statement if it's quarterback plus offensive play caller like really the book that's written is okay with this quarterback this is what the play caller calls it's not one or the other it's both together and if they continue to run base week one training camp install stuff they'll figure it out real quick so kellen and cooper have to start adding layers to this if they're going to have success and i also think the game was called very much hey let's do what we can do offensively, but our defense is playing pretty well here. We don't have to do too much because our defense is getting the ball back for us.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Yeah, this is Mike Parsons' experience here. I mean, this is like next-level stuff, man. I never would even flirt with suggesting anybody else can impact a game like Aaron Donald can defensively, but I'm still hesitant to go that far with it, but Parsons has been the first guy in a long time that's making me think differently about having that kind of Aaron Donald type impact. Think about this real quick.
Starting point is 00:51:34 One of the things Belichick said years ago, I think it, you know, it was with Rabel really is when the conversation started. Was he made kind of versatility cool? Yeah, Troy Brown playing defensive back. Yeah, he made versatility cool. I think what happened in the league after he started proving concept where a lot of coaches were like, oh, he's on to something. We're never going to give them credit, but when you have versatile players,
Starting point is 00:52:03 you have scheme versatility. When you have scheme versatility, you're not predictable. When you're not predictable, you can be aggressive. You can trigger, uh, and they don't know what's coming. You really get a advantage when you're versatile. Um, I think Aaron Donald, Donald isn't just one of the best. He is. He's one of the, everything they say about him.
Starting point is 00:52:24 I agree with, but he's so versatile too. He plays the five and he plays the one of the best. He is. He's one of the, everything they say about him, I agree with, but he's so versatile too. He plays the five and he plays the three plays the one. He plays a zero. He walks around. He's so versatile in what he can do. Micah Parsons freak like Aaron, but his versatility, I think allows him to even more freakish because you have no idea where he's showing up.
Starting point is 00:52:47 So I'll give you an example as a coach and every coach that listens to me like, oh yeah, he hit it there. You can plan around a guy if you know where he's going to line up. I don't care how good that guy is. You can either take stuff out that's not going to let them ruin the game, or you can create cool schemes to get two, three bodies on them. Modern day football, don't block them. Read them. Blah, blah, blah, blah. A bunch of stuff you can do. You're a mess all week. You don't sleep. Your wife's ugly. Your food sucks. You put on 12 pounds. When the game wrecker, when you don't, You know, you put on 12 pounds when the game record, when you don't, where it's, where's Waldo.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Okay. Waldo's a game record and you don't know where he's going to be. Life is miserable. It's horrific because you don't have any answers. Now he may show up over your second year left tackle. He may show up as a bubble backer. He may show up out in the slot and walk in where he's not in the number account pre-snap. He might line up over your free agent left guard
Starting point is 00:53:51 that is so stiff he can't tie his shoes. You don't know what's going to happen. So I think they've landed in something there. And they have Lawrence. They have other good players too. They have other dynamic athletes that they can kind of play chess with. And what's cool about Quinn is he doesn't – his creativity is very subtle. And it almost lulls you to sleep. And now Mike is showing up in places where, like – I've got to rewind that. I've got YouTube TV.
Starting point is 00:54:20 It's kind of hard to rewind. I wish I was back to DirecTV. But, you know, I'll rewind the 20 seconds just to be like, oh Oh my, Oh, I see that. Oh, he was a seven last week and now they did this. So that slide protection, he's looping all the way inside that he's going to be matched up on the backside uncovered. That's doing the slide. And this guy's got no chance because that guy's a square player. And I just's got an edge in Micah Parsons. There is calculus going on, everybody. Football at its highest level is not algebra. It is calculus.
Starting point is 00:54:52 And when done well with great players, it's kind of unstoppable. Okay, last thought here. Trey Lance, unfortunately, out for the season. We didn't really get a good chance to see. I don't know what week one. I didn't take anything away from that game. The loss at Chicago in those conditions. But Jimmy's in, and this makes sense.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I love that San Francisco said, hey, we don't like the offers, and we're not desperate. We don't have to do this. He's not going to lose his shit. We can trust him to be a backup, and now it looks like it's going to work out for everybody. Yeah, I said this on call just to be funny, but I think it's actually kind of true.
Starting point is 00:55:30 They should take Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers off the State Farm commercials and put Lynch and Shanahan and Jimmy G on there, right? Because it's like, right now you have the greatest advertisement for insurance policy you could ever find. And you're right, they handled it i i think i it's great and i think i think kyle is smart enough and he is he's one of the best he's just going to basically revamp the offense say okay we thought we're going to do this 40 now that's gone because we're not going to run jimmy g and we'll get back to some of this and we'll do that. And, you know, we'll play to Jimmy G's strengths.
Starting point is 00:56:05 It's going to be unfortunate because I don't get to unleash this 40% that I wanted to unleash, but oh, well, let's move on. I'm bummed for Trey. I think this could be a career record, to be honest with you. Susan will be now his third year without playing significant snaps. He had limited passes as a college player, which is usually, it's the only exception I've ever made in my pre, well,
Starting point is 00:56:28 I was wrong on Sanchez. And then I made an exception for Trey Lance, less than 1500 attempts as a college player. It very rarely works out in your favor in the NFL. I was willing to take that chance for Trey because I figured his ability to run the ball would be kind of the balancing act to give him a longer leash in the NFL to play more snaps before he became a refined passer. Now you're looking at less than 1,500 attempts in college football,
Starting point is 00:56:58 three years without playing significant snaps. I think Jimmy G will be successful. I do think the 49ers will be successful. Therefore, what do you do at the end of this year like this could be i hope not i love the kid but this this could be catastrophic for trey lance trent we always enjoy the time and we'll talk Thanks, brother. See you. liquid. So, now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required. Life advice this week, lifeadvicerr at gmail.com. We had a lot of follow-ups to the wedding dilemma. And, you know, again, a lot of different opinions
Starting point is 00:57:55 out there. We welcome them all. We read very few. But this one was one that I thought I wanted to read. Whenever we have our female crew chiming in, I always like to get that perspective. This show can be a little male, if you haven't noticed, which is fine.
Starting point is 00:58:14 This one, female, 43, 5'9", 160, run half marathons, just starting weights, don't have a baseline for bench. Don't worry about it. All right. The email last week about the girlfriend wanting to skip the church part of the wedding had me questioning
Starting point is 00:58:27 my own marriage. Uh-oh. My question, have I been completely duped by my husband? Is he some way not fulfilling the very basics
Starting point is 00:58:36 of a relationship etiquette? My first reaction to last week's email was that you should just not attend the wedding. From a practical standpoint, it does not make sense. There would be minimal time
Starting point is 00:58:44 for the couple to be together during the key points, ceremony, dinner, transportation. I don't understand this. Why would they, I don't think with a wedding party, they'd be like, you have to go in the worst Uber.
Starting point is 00:58:53 I don't think that happens. So Rudy, you had a wedding recently. Did you make, did you make, are people making non-wedding parties significant others ride the loser cruiser? Like what's going on?
Starting point is 00:59:05 I don't remember that when I've been in it or guest of. No, usually there's like a bus at our wedding. It was on a puke bus because like three or four people puked on the bus on the way home, which was super fun. But I don't know. Everybody hops on the same one. And that's kind of how it goes. I don't think it's like a, hey, you're not in the immediate wedding party.
Starting point is 00:59:24 You're not every man for himself at that point. So I don't know. I guess it depends on the wedding. But no, that seems kind of how it goes. I don't think it's like a, hey, you're not in the immediate wedding party. You're not every man for himself at that point. So, I don't know. I guess it depends on the wedding, but no, that seems kind of weird. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, whatever. Not disputing that. The groomsman will be with his friends and will be completely occupied. The wedding couple would save on a head count and not have to pay for dinner, drinks, etc. for
Starting point is 00:59:39 one more person who does not want to be there. There's no reason for her to attend the entire event. She should fly out and spend the days with her friend and off wedding hours with her boyfriend. The logic is based on my 12-year partnership with my husband who has frequently declined to attend weddings and events where he did not know a lot of people or just didn't want to attend. Your reaction
Starting point is 00:59:55 to her even asking that question as well as Kyle and Saruti's and citing it as an example of female privilege has me wondering if I'm doing something completely wrong with my marriage. I think she's never been more right. I like what she's doing. Uh-oh. Context on my husband. Husband's great, very loving, emotionally supportive, does more than half the work and taking care of the household and dogs. He makes good money and I make significantly more than him. Just want to be clear that I'm not a kept woman. Attaching photos because I believe we're fairly
Starting point is 01:00:23 evenly matched from a looks perspective. Let me just click on this one real quick. This, this woman is so matter of fact about all of this. I love her. Yeah. Her efficiency is off the charts. She's like,
Starting point is 01:00:35 Hey, this is what's up. I like her. Very pragmatic. Yeah. He was clear from the start of relationship. He does not want to go to every work family friend event that I go to or get invited to. I have the same option to decline for any of his events. I tend to be more social and enjoy meeting new people, so I will usually attend the event when I'm invited. He is great with new people, but would prefer to spend his time at home reading or during football season doing research and working on fantasy, daily fantasy, and prop bets. We didn't get just fantasy. We got all three thrown at it. Well, if he's been telling you,
Starting point is 01:01:09 hon, today's a big research day. Gotta put the work in. I can't go to that farmer's market. No days off. No days off. Great line. I don't have to worry about it.
Starting point is 01:01:25 If there's something that I feel strongly about him attending, then I will just say so when he comes. I would say I attend 67% of the events solo, and I'm totally okay with that. I don't have to worry about it if I'm having a good time and he wants to leave. When we do attend events together, I also have fun because in general, I find him enjoyable.
Starting point is 01:01:45 An enjoyable person to be around. At events he doesn't attend, people often ask where he is and I just say he didn't want to come. I think you should just say, oh, today's a big research day. He's got three same game parlays he's trying to unlock. I was able to attend these things just fine before I met him so it didn't occur to me that it was a problem to go solo after we met. Your response about men always having to attend these things just fine before I met him so it didn't occur to me that it was a problem to go solo after we met your response about men always having to attend these things without question
Starting point is 01:02:09 is making me think that he's been pulling an adorable fast one on me for all these years what should I be renegotiating the event policy for our relationship alright I don't think this is the podcast to come to for this significant part of your deal. I think you answered this on your own. You never even thought about it until you heard us talk about it, which again, some people would disagree because people are going to disagree with literally everything you say.
Starting point is 01:02:41 But the important things are the important things that you pointed out, right? Let's read the email back. You just said, my husband is great, very loving, emotionally supportive, does more than half the work and taking care of the household and dogs. He makes good money. You said you make more than him, a lot more. All right. He just doesn't like to go to shit. And you've never cared until you heard us talking about the last wedding email. So that means this has been a win for you the entire time. If you think of a list of all the things that your significant other can be good at and bad at, it sounds like he's good at all the really good things.
Starting point is 01:03:12 And there's something that I would put definitely in that slightly less important category. And it's actually been less important to you. So now you're concerned about something you've never been concerned about for years. I would just go back to the little time machine or just, uh, restore the computer to a previous date before we'd ever read that email. And you just keep rolling in the direction you're rolling in, because it sounds like he's been an awesome partner to you. And you've never even had any other questions. Like when I think about the things that I would really want grand, awful, awful, uh, I shouldn't even go down this road with it because nobody wants to hear me say it but like
Starting point is 01:03:45 when you think about the things that'll matter to you about your significant other going to stuff when you don't care about going solo shouldn't matter other people would put a huge priority on you know i know people that can't do any of these things like if the other person doesn't go i almost think there's this weird power dynamic where it's like, I kind of don't want to go. But because I know you definitely don't want you to go, now I want you to go. I've seen that happen a little bit before. So I think you're in a good spot here. I think he's been great.
Starting point is 01:04:15 As you point out, I don't think he's a con. He clearly doesn't like going to shit. Although the daily fantasy studying does make me chuckle a little bit on that one. But what if he's killing it, though? I mean, maybe he's maybe we don't know. Daily Fantasy studying does make me chuckle a little bit on that one. What if he's killing it, though? I mean, maybe he's, we don't know. Maybe that's his main source of income, and he's just crushing it. I think she would have mentioned that with all the other details she's provided. Well, yeah, but now she's going to ask to see the account.
Starting point is 01:04:35 So, you know. Yeah, he's probably not a great sign there. I don't know. I think this is perfect. I mean, I would consider myself a pretty good partner when it comes to like going to things. Life partner? Life partner, event partner, you know, all of it. You know, we'll find the best avenue to have a good time. That's for sure. But I've been places where it's like I'm coming and like I'm going with her and like she's around all the friends and I could turn it on. I'll like for four hours. Yeah, you can. I'll turn it on.
Starting point is 01:05:03 I'll be like, you've known me your whole life, but I'll see like, they'll be like doing one of their inside joke, laughing things about something that happened five years ago. And then she has to turn to me and be like, all right. So this one time when we were on our way to Canada or something, it's like, if I just like disappeared and wasn't here, you'd have an awesome time. And I'd be totally fine not doing this whole trip with you. So the fact that you guys have that in a shorthand and like those are the events like I'll be at an event where I'm like, you know, it'd be cool if I was if I'd be a little bit easier if I was here alone.
Starting point is 01:05:32 And I've been the guy who's like, you know, turning it on, having a good time. But also it's like those are like you're a group of five that have known each other forever. This one guy who's like, you know, attached to you. And I just think it's great that you have such a shorthand already that you're just like, yeah, this one's not for you. And I want to go. So that's, that's fine. I'm glad you don't want to go. That's perfect. You guys are killing it. That's the, that's the great point because my, my wife is like the life of the party. She's friendly with everybody, whatever. She's good in social settings. I am a little bit more
Starting point is 01:06:02 introverted. Like I kind of like to be by myself myself i have a very like hard time limit too like when i'm at an event she can kind of look at me and go oh he's i think he's ready to go home and i'm not like moody or weird about it like she just kind of knows like it's like your stance changes a little bit yeah and like you know she can just kind of there's a general vibe where it's like all right steve's ready to go home um but she also like will know events that i don't need to be present at and she'll be like oh you don't have to come that's fine like weddings are kind of, oh, you don't have to come. That's fine. Weddings are kind of off-limits. I'm going to have to go to family weddings, especially, obviously, on her side.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I can't skip weddings. So I'll just say to the emailer, it's pretty fucking awesome that you allow him to do this. I hope he reciprocates the love in a different way to you as well. But as long as you've got a good thing going and it's not bothering you, as Ryan said, there's no real reason to change what's going on. If you're both happy and you're not mad or jealous of him because he's not present at different places, then I would just say keep living your life the way it is.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Don't let this podcast change your view on your guy. Yeah, nothing to add to that. Okay, let's go. Car Wash, Am I the Asshole? What's up, guys? A little over 5'11", so I tell people six feet. Feel a little guilty about it, 195.
Starting point is 01:07:08 I'm writing this just minutes after a low stakes, but high tension situation at the local car wash. My wife and I have a baby girl on the way due in the next couple of weeks. All right. So you're already sort of like pre little frazzled. Day can come anytime now. Since I spend my Sundays this time of year
Starting point is 01:07:23 playing on the couch, researching daily fantasy fantasy and no, I'm just kidding. Playing on the couch watching football. I thought I would deep clean her car before the games. Look at everybody's getting along this week. Let me read that again. right in front of the automatic floor mat washing station. There was already another woman washing her mats out, so I took the mats out of my car and set them all by the machine to hold my spot in line while I vacuumed. Hmm. What's that? Is that allowed? Let's see what happens. Once the woman who was already at the station was done,
Starting point is 01:08:20 I started loading up my mats. It took about a minute per mat, so I would feed one in and then go back to my car to finish up the vacuuming. I added the uptick on the pronunciation there at the end. That was just a straight sentence. Right after I fed my second to last mat in the machine, a little boy, probably six or seven, walked over with a mat in hand with my last mat still laying right in front of of the machine i went back and kindly said hey buddy do you mind you know let me phrase that because i put a hard emphasis on that buddy we're still hostile towards kids yeah yeah let's try that friendlier like i'm all out of candy all right um hey buddy do you mind if i throw my last one in
Starting point is 01:09:03 that's probably what it was more like he nodded and i waited there and put my last one in once it opened up when i walked back to my car after feeding the last man and the kid's mom dressed head to toe in lululemon and cleaning a very nice suv looked at me disgusted and said fuck you sort of under her breath but definitely in a way that she wanted me to hear. I was extremely confused and wanted to say something, but ultimately decided it wasn't worth it to get into it with a soccer mom. I went and grabbed my mat out of the machine, told the kid thanks, put my vacuum hose back and drove off. All that to ask, am I the asshole? I wasn't in a rush. I probably could have let him do his one mat, but wanted to finish the job.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Maybe I misunderstood the unspoken rules of the car wash. If she's the one on the wrong, should I have said something? Worth noting, I live in Colorado. That is helpful. So not quite Midwest friendliness, but not Boston either. Would love your thoughts. Well, I appreciate you listening. I think you're totally wrong here.
Starting point is 01:09:59 I think I know what happened is you were trying to be hyper-efficient, but it's kind of like, I got yelled at once on the Mass Pike, granted that didn't go well, where I went to put gas in the car and Mass doesn't have the full, I don't know what the hell I did. I ended up basically taking a little too long to go into the store to grab some waters or whatever and then go back in and it took up a spot. So I could have been quicker about it. The guy laid into me Massachusetts style. And I was kind of like, yeah, I think I'm wrong here. Um, and it kind of been one of those deals where like, I did it going, I'll be fine because there's not that many cars. And then with the pike, you never know you get a rush. And then all of a sudden people are looking for hoses. And you know, I, I was wrong. I was wrong. I think you're wrong here because as you describe it, you parked by the vacuum to vacuum the car. You're saying it's right in front of the automatic floor mat, but you were trying to do two things at once. was that, you know, if you're vacuuming, you're vacuuming. You're saying that you were vacuuming and then putting a mat through
Starting point is 01:11:06 and then going back to vacuuming and putting a mat through. And then when you weren't back in time to put in the last mat, this kid was ahead of you. And then you decided, and again, the kid's six or seven, so you're going to fucking lose. And then it's a mom. She's never, ever going to think any interaction with her kid from a stranger is like,
Starting point is 01:11:21 yeah, actually, what would be a kid's name? Could Joseph maybe? you know yeah yeah let the stranger put his madden through the fourth one because he's trying to do both at the exact same time so you know she's going to have a more aggressive reaction she probably didn't have to drop an f-bomb on you right there but she's only looking at a stranger messing with her kid who's ready to put in a map because you're trying to do two things at once. And at this point, it's not slow enough for you to get away with trying to get all this done at the same time. So that would be, that would be the way I look at this. I don't think there's really much debate. Yeah. I think I like to do it sometimes like where, where like I try to do two
Starting point is 01:11:59 things at once. Sometimes when my bread of water is filling up a cup, it goes pretty slow. I'll try to do something else. And sometimes you lose. But most times you win. So you took the risk. And I think it was more of a perception thing. I doubt it was actually. If it's an automatic thing, you don't have to stand by it, obviously. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:21 It takes a minute. You kind of have to stand by it. I think it's actually not efficient at all because those hoses, those vacuums are like coin op or credit card operation. That's time that you're losing on the vacuum, by the way. And that's how you end up with a pretty expensive car wash when you don't get all the vacuuming done. And now you got to do another cycle. Yeah, you're definitely those. That's precious. That's you're paying for the second on that vacuum. So I do think you're losing a little bit of efficiency there. But I think the reason that you're not the asshole is because you just let the shit go. So I think you've got a pretty good head on your shoulders.
Starting point is 01:12:52 The Brita cup overflowed. That's okay. Yeah, but this would be like being at the workplace and putting your large water container under the water cooler and then using the toaster. If you're in the same room, yeah. Right, and somebody's like, dude, you know, whatever. I think his reaction to this was good, that he just was like, I'm just going to kind of eat this one. She was aggressive.
Starting point is 01:13:14 She was too aggressive. But that's the way it's going to happen. When it's like a kid who's six or seven that's involved and a stranger just talks to the kid, then the mom's going to lose her shit. You know, that's just the way it goes. So I don't think you were right, but I thought you're the way the guy hit, you're absolutely right, Kyle, the way he handled it, just kind of drop off, drive off and be like, whatever, you know, I think that's the right way to do it.
Starting point is 01:13:35 I was trying to think, is there a, is there a gym analogy to this at all? Like, is this would be like if you're at the squat rack and then you're also like maybe doing the lat pull downs and like put your place, you know, like the little pin in and like, you're kind of going back and forth like that would be unacceptable right supersets no you could you better be big if you're doing supersets because then if you're big you just get away with it because it's like well this guy i mean there's a guy there's a guy at my gym now he's wearing mama didn't raise no bitch cut off sleeve t-shirts that guy sounds fun yeah and then he's there was another one like i thought maybe because that would be the kind of thing I would wear to be funny, knowing that I don't like, okay, but who's it funny for? laugh in his car by himself an hour from now. But yeah, this guy's wearing mama didn't raise no bitch shirt. And he has another shirt because then he was like, oh my God, this guy's wearing weightlifting themed motto shirts. And the other one was just something just like, you know, like, you know, I'll do the lifting. You can do the watching.
Starting point is 01:14:45 I mean, it was something else like super aggressive. And I'm like, this guy's, because he's big and he is strong, but he's just kind of like big, big. He's definitely a big guy. But yeah, supersets, that's a good question, Sruti. Is there a gym equivalent of this? If you were, you know, taking up a machine and going too long and but i still think the gym analogy uh i don't know i'm not going to spend all day trying to
Starting point is 01:15:12 take someone else would have to be like in line waiting for like the lat pull down machine while you're trying to occupy two different things so that you just work in rack yeah and then that person just all goes over and uses the lat pull down bar and you're like why i was here it's like well no you're in this you're at the squat rack. You're not actually here. You can't do both at once. Yeah, you could work in. If you're going to do that, if you're going to superset or whatever,
Starting point is 01:15:31 you've got to let the other person work in when you're not there. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a work-in option when you're running your mats through the automatic wash. It's one mat at a time, and this guy tried to work in his mat, and the seven-year-old just was like, oh, you know, so I look, I think a mom didn't like a mom didn't like a stranger talking to her kid. Right. And I think if you are one of those moms, maybe you should stop sending your kid to do real world tasks is what I mean. Whoa. I mean, Hey, listen, if you're going to be like, Hey,
Starting point is 01:15:59 go pay this bill at the diner. And all of a sudden, like the kid doesn't know what's going on. It's like, it's like leaving your kid at like the checkout thing. Like I'll be back in five minutes while like, well, while we pay for these things, just, just hold the spot in line, like, which is fine. But if things go awry, I think you should be a little bit cooler on the parent side. If you're like, yeah, you're right. I let it, I let a child try to do an adult task. I just think maybe you should remember that parents before you're like, don't talk to my kid. It's like, Hey, maybe your kid shouldn't be speaking for your car right now at the fucking laundry matter at matter at the at the car wash that's what i mean i think everything's fine i just think maybe if you're going to be a parent who's a little bit weird
Starting point is 01:16:32 about interactions with your kids maybe don't send your kids to do adult interactions that's it well maybe she wanted to teach her son a lesson that mama didn't raise no bitch like you can't take shit from guys that are trying to do a two-task thing at the line. Great job, Mom. I don't know. I just think you should be a little bit cooler if you're going to be upping the stakes of what your kid has to do. All right. We'll do one more here. He wants to go by the name. He's offering us an alias, and he would like to be called James.
Starting point is 01:17:01 29-year-old. I'm going to leave his country of origin out. call it James. 29-year-old. I'm going to leave his country of origin out. He's 6'2", 185, 265, two reps bench and squat. He says, weird, I know. I agree. That is weird. You're 185. Well, whatever. Maybe your knees hurt. Pick pickup basketball player specializing in
Starting point is 01:17:27 backdoor alley-oops and huge between game dunks what so you can dunk but you can only squat 265 twice well it is weird he's the one that told us it was weird and we agree um i only hit personal records when i listen to your pod or old life advice segments well you should be super pissed off and motivated after that breakdown story i've been oh i like this there's an outline to this one i've been putting in a lot of work cultivating a relationship with a 20 year old woman that myself and my friends played basketball with she's a former d1 player six feet tall, and now plays professionally every summer. I'm quite into her, and I can tell she's waiting for me to ask her out.
Starting point is 01:18:10 But I thought I'd wait until she was finished traveling for the season before I made my move. Mistake. Why does everybody wait? I felt like November would be a good time. Now, granted, if the other person is going through something, you're trying to time it better. I kind of get it here. But anyway, all right.
Starting point is 01:18:30 So I thought she'd wait for the season. She's got the cutest kid. He's revealing a lot here that I've ever seen in my life. And knowing that she has a child doesn't concern me like it would a few years ago. That makes sense. About a month ago, I removed myself from dating apps and broke off my casual relationship so I could be fully available when her season comes to close this week. All right.
Starting point is 01:18:52 So you are pre-dumping people for somebody you're not even asking out yet. I love the focus. Love the focus. But last week, a girl I dated six years ago, she's also my age, but she's only 5'4". Okay. Reached out trying to connect.
Starting point is 01:19:18 I wasn't sure of the context, but she was someone I dated for a few years and was excited to catch up and see how she was doing. Went for drinks, had an absolute blast. She's hilarious, smart, gorgeous.
Starting point is 01:19:26 We talked for five straight hours. It was honestly the best date I've been on in years. She had her hands on my leg. The faces she was making made it very clear she wanted us to get together again. This was a girl who I was deeply in love with and thought I'd marry when I was 22 years old. She broke up with me then because she was going through some very, very tough stuff in her family life. At the end of the night, she asked if we could do this again soon. At this point, I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Who do I pursue? The tall basketball player lights out from three, and there's a chance we could eventually have D1 athlete babies together. There it is. Yeah, I mean, you're playing with fire at 5'4". You just are. You just are. And you're only six feet tall? 6'2"?
Starting point is 01:20:07 6'2". Yeah, I mean, when the mom's tall... Anyway. She has an adorable kid. She travels a lot. Not the basketball violation. She has an adorable kid. She travels a lot.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Not the basketball violation. And I don't know what her rapport would be like outside of the gymnasium. She's an absolute catch. So if I don't make a move soon, I'm afraid I'll miss my window. My ex is someone I never thought I'd have a chance with again, but her chemistry after one night of drinks was undeniable, and I haven't met anyone I've connected with her like her since we split up when we were both young and immature. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:20:46 I'll blindly follow anything you, so Rudy or Kyle suggest. Thanks. Uh, then he provided us more info not to share. Uh, all right. I would just ask out the tall one now.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Find out immediately because I know what you're going to do, dude. You know, you got, again, some guys listen to this email like poor fucking guy it's six foot smoke show draining it from three that's kind of interested in him and now there's this five four goddess that also wants to get back together all right so the right move you know that sometimes you know you get back with the person in the past actually be great because there's like this rekindling you you skip all of those stupid steps like you kind of know it you know you know that sometimes you know you get back with the person in the past actually be great because there's like this rekindling you you skip all of those stupid steps like you kind of know it you know you know it when there's this connection beyond just the physical attraction uh there's just you know i think you kind of know when it's like wait this is just a little bit
Starting point is 01:21:36 different than everything else and sometimes that is somebody you have a passive because you kind of grew up together and then some people have a hard time with the gap thing uh i definitely when i was younger would be like oh cool yeah let's get to get back together while you're traveling with different dudes these vacation spots and people are sending me instagram posts of it like yeah that's fucking sweet now i want to hang out with you again um when i was younger absolute couldn't do it get a little bit older you're just like you know you start to scar up a little bit more and you're like ah fuck it fuck it. Who cares? Right? But I think you need to know because if you just went all in on the 5'4 girl, you're going to keep wondering about the 6'
Starting point is 01:22:10 girl. So, and it sounds like you kind of prefer the 6' girl because you keep, you brought up the height twice. So, again, I'll let you go right now, but I'm just saying find out where you stand with 6' before you make any form uh
Starting point is 01:22:28 you know future moves of five four surety now two things one i actually don't think it's weird that he waited to ask her out because i had a buddy once who basically got got together with this girl she kind of knew him they ended up dating and then she went to like new zealand for six months and it's like what what's the? So you're just going to start a relationship and it's going to be a long distance relationship right away. Like that's if you know she's coming back, just wait. So I actually don't have an issue with that. My question for this guy is eventually. Yeah, definitely. Obviously, ask the six foot girl out. It's always going to be in the back of your head. But chances are you're going to like her. Like you kind of know a little bit
Starting point is 01:23:02 about her. You like her kid. You think she's cute. It's not a problem. There's going to be a decision or a point where you're going to have to make a decision about the two of them. And it's going to be like, what do you value more, love or breeding? Like that seems like the two different angles here. Like, sure. Do you want, do you want to have your kid potentially be a sick athlete? Or do you want to like, you know, be with this girl who potentially gets you in ways that other girls don't?
Starting point is 01:23:21 So, you know, I know guys that really care about like, yeah So, um, you know, I, I know guys that really care about like, yeah, I want, you know, I wanted to date an athletic girl because I'm athletic and I want, you know, I want to be a coach and I want them to get scholarships and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:23:31 That's cool. But how much do you actually, do you, do you actually love your wife too? Like, I don't know. I feel like I would choose the love aspect, but that's going to be a decision.
Starting point is 01:23:39 I think you kind of have to make. Could have soccer players. Cause soccer people because soccer people soccer community tells me tall people would be awful at it like Russell Westbrook wouldn't be good at soccer which I dispute he's 6'2 and she's 5'4 I mean if you have a girl who's
Starting point is 01:23:55 5'8 5'9 that's she could still I mean that's a great she could play hoop she could do a bunch of sports she could play soccer that's fine guy you know maybe tougher hopefully he gets to 6 feet you you know, it'll be maybe tougher. Hopefully he gets to six feet. You never know. Yeah, it's not like
Starting point is 01:24:08 there are short moms with tall sons. It does happen. You know, I don't know how family trees work, man. There's some stuff that goes on there. You know, genes are crazy.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Yeah, absolutely. Kyle, anything here? You ever have a time where you just had so many options you didn't know what to do? Usually coming home from college or something, you know, it's like, all right, we got some choices. But we got some time. But we got some time. Give us one. I don you didn't know what to do usually coming home from college or something you know it's like all right we got some choices but we got some time but we got some
Starting point is 01:24:27 time give us one i don't think i'm gonna do that because like i said wedding date already set uh yeah see you guys there so um does your fiance listen to life advice no and and uh no we'll leave it at that um i hope she never does my point is for this guy i don't see why you can't do both at this point you're still at the stage where hey hey, hold on, listen, just hear me out. So at one point, there's this woman who's, what, 20? He said she's 20? No, no, no, no, no. They met, which one?
Starting point is 01:24:56 Six footer or five floor? The six footer. They said she was a 20-year-old? No, she's 27. Oh, she's 27. Okay. She's 27, and I think the five floor girl's also 27. Oh, okay. Cool, cool okay cool cool so i don't
Starting point is 01:25:05 think i don't think either i'm gonna grow all right great so rule that out we hadn't touched we hadn't addressed that part of it great but like so she's gonna be what like this is not her last season ever right and i mean how long is the off season basically you're gonna be in this weird talking stage where she's gonna be like maybe i haven't even thought about you that way and then i'm gonna go to europe as a hot girl who's an athlete and or wherever she's going to be like, maybe I haven't even thought about you that way. And then I'm going to go to Europe as a hot girl who's an athlete or wherever she's going. And I'll be back in a couple months or something. So I mean, either way, you're still like kind of feeling things out. And this ex that kind of reappeared is also like, she's not, it's not gonna be like, hey, are you talking to anybody? Where have you like, hey, I saw that. Who's this like in your
Starting point is 01:25:41 Instagram? You're in this early stage anyway, which is in the feel out stage, which you could still say I'm dating around. So I still think, I think you could sort of kind of put your lines out there and see who's tugging is what I mean. Cause it's, this is still a low stakes thing. Obviously you've been thinking about, you've been thinking about the who's tugging the ball, the ball player. And I just think that, I think that you, you could totally do both at the same time. Definitely have to talk to the ballplayer because you're going to be, if you do actually do end up with this old girlfriend, you are going to be thinking about it. So I think I don't see anything wrong
Starting point is 01:26:12 with just casting some lines. I'm glad that you've got like two people that you're, you know, think would be receptive. I wouldn't worry. Yeah, I mean, some people have zero. So you might be right. You might be in. You might totally be right. Like, who cares?
Starting point is 01:26:26 You know, everybody's in their 20s, nothing's set in stone. I do think this is where you give the emailer credit, James. You give him credit for actually, you know, this guy's a real planner here. You know, this guy's really thinking it out. And in a way, he doesn't want his heart, he doesn't want his emotions to be twisted up by continuing with 5'4", knowing that it sounds like his preference is 6 feet. So that's why he got off the dating apps. That's why he's kind of pre-dumped everybody.
Starting point is 01:26:51 I think there's a difference between logging out of Hinge and then, like, you know, logging out of 5'4". No, and then, sure, exactly. Exactly. I don't know. I think you guys are underselling 5-4 because he literally said that he thought he was going to marry this girl they didn't break up because they didn't like each other they broke up because of you know some odd circumstances he never even thought this was an option now she's back in his life like i i wonder if he actually if if he cares about her more and
Starting point is 01:27:19 that's way more of an option than you guys would give him credit for but even if he does he could still be driving himself crazy like pulling up the other girl's instagram being like does she have any new highlight vids like like maybe you could just just yeah just see if this goes anywhere and if she's just like yeah you know thanks i just got a lot got the kid got season got practice i mean i don't know how are you even gonna know how are you even gonna know is what i mean like i think it's totally fine to to take a you know take a shot at each one give yourself a couple months to like try both of them out and then and you got to make a decision I mean the one is probably local right the the ex is probably local the other one is going to be here for you know good time short time not a long time or whatever the saying is like
Starting point is 01:27:56 she's going to be gone soon right so I mean you kind of really only have a little bit of time to even see what's going on here here's the thing like the waiting it out the reason why even though Suri I kind of agree with you because your buddy in the New Zealand scenario if you're almost to even see what's going on here. Here's the thing, like the waiting it out, the reason why, even though, Saruti, I kind of agree with you, because your buddy in the New Zealand scenario, if you're almost too aggressive and then the girl gets New Zealand and she kind of wants to be single
Starting point is 01:28:12 and experience the whole thing, instead of all of a sudden starting this new long-distance relationship, although, you know, it doesn't mean, hey, we have to date and check in and then, you know, six months in a day, I'll be at Bradley International waiting for you here. There's a way to do it, but I also just think at times when you don't show any interest because
Starting point is 01:28:29 you're timing it all out on this schedule that you think is most optimum, you can fuck things up too. And let's also add this. And if she's really attractive and she's six feet and she's playing international basketball, there's a really good chance there's some male basketball players that have also shown interest in her so like if you wait that out knowing that she has some real you've got some real competition here and then she comes back and says like oh I never even knew that you were interested because you were
Starting point is 01:28:54 waiting until trade deadline you know what I mean like you're dealing in some deep waters here with a lot of other dudes you know it's like if you see a hot bartender and you think your window's there, but you're like, oh, I don't want to. It's like, man, don't fucking wait.
Starting point is 01:29:08 Like, find out. Because if there is a window where she's available, the idea that she's going to be available for like six months as you figure out your perfect timing strategy. Like, she's a hot bartender. Guess what's going to happen? There's a million fucking guys firing her. And some point, some point, she's going to say yes to one of those other guys
Starting point is 01:29:24 while you're trying to map out, you know, the most, uh, optimum moon position here. So I, here's what I've done in my twenties. I keep sleeping with five, four, and then I probably DM six foot on the side and just see how it was going. So, I mean, I know that's a shitty answer, but that's probably what I would have done back then. Actually, I'm not going to say probably it's a hundred percent what I would have done. So you're in your 20s. That was probably the most real answer. But I do think it's admirable that you're kind of like, I don't want to do anything to anybody else or even do anything to myself.
Starting point is 01:29:57 A six-foot is your preferred mating partner. All right. There you go. We did three for you today college football rankings Wednesday we've got a special author coming up Wednesday has nothing to do with sports
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