The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Julian Edelman on NFL Systems and Fighting the Urge to Come Back(?)

Episode Date: August 25, 2022

Russillo shares his thoughts on the percentage of first-round QBs who find success on their second team (0:39), before talking to three-time Super Bowl champion Julian Edelman about his retirement, the itch to get back into the NFL, his favorite offenses from the 2021-22 season, Bill Belichick film room stories, and more (12:25). Finally Ryen answers some listener-submitted Life Advice questions (41:25). Host: Ryen Russillo Guest: Julian Edelman Producers: Kyle Crichton and Steve Ceruti Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

today's podcast we got julian edelman super bowl winner on trying to stay retired we'll talk a little brady as well and also the pat system and how it evolves but i really wanted to get into some of the stuff that he likes from from other offenses that he's been able to kind of sit back and watch a year from move from playing. The Open will be about quarterbacks that were taken in the first round and how likely it is when they flame out one place, how likely it is that they're successful somewhere else. I'm going to tell you right now, that list is even shorter than I thought it would be and life advice. Enjoy. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. Winter is here, so be prepared and get almost anything delivered with Uber Eats.

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But blueberry muffins with the delicious crumb topping? Total yes. Get almost, almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. Alcohol in select markets. Product availability may vary by region. See app for details. You know that I love talking about the NFL quarterback position, trying to figure out different trends. I know that I've done the segment about first round picks over the last two decades being more than likely 50% bust rate.

I've done that segment numerous times, probably too many. But what I did want to look at is kind of answering the Baker Mayfield question. And that is, we have a first round quarterback going to another team. How often is that quarterback successful at his next place? The results are horrifying. It's even worse. And actually, what I really did is I want to dig into kind of the last 10 drafts over a different period. Like it's too soon, some of the more recent drafts to decide what we have as far as these

quarterbacks and what their careers are going to be. So I focused on 2009 to 2018, but I ran the numbers from 2009 to 2017, the 25 first round quarterbacks. If you throw in the 18 class, that's 30 first round quarterbacks. That includes Baker, but we're still, I guess, TBD with Baker, even if history tells us that we probably already have our answer for what he's going to be at the next franchise. We also have Mitch in Pittsburgh. We've got Mariota in Atlanta. Atlanta is likely going to be terrible.

And Ritter's going to play at some point. Marcus Mariota starting all 17 games for the Atlanta Falcons. There's no way. I mean, is it an impossibility? No. Is it likely? No. Bad teams.

Eventually, you're going to go to the young guy to see what you have. And with Mitch having Pickett there in pittsburgh as well you know it's not likely that mitch rabisky's going to be the guy um end to end here for for the steelers it's just it's just not likely right so as i've mentioned in the past you know the first rounders are basically 50 50-50 proposition for being a bust. If you look at the drafts from 2009 to 2017, that's 25 first-round quarterbacks. You have four that you can say, these guys were franchise guys. That's Stafford.

Again, he changed teams after 12 years, so I'm not putting him in that group. He's sort of different. Stafford, Cam. Cam was a good quarterback for the Panthers. He did what he needed to do as far as solving that franchise's problem at the position, even if I thought he was a little bit of a peak fluke here there when they made it to the Super Bowl. shit kicked out of him. And then Mahomes, who clearly is that guy. Deshaun Watson would be in this group, but he's sort of in his own group that's a little bit more complicated. So it's really four out of the 25 franchise problem solvers, five we include Watson, but he's not

with that franchise anymore. So you can't really include him. Then you've got this other group that just have no teams after they were done. Jake Locker had injuries with Tennessee, never started a game anywhere else. Christian Ponder was on a bunch of different rosters, but didn't necessarily make them all the time. Blake Bortles, since Jacksonville took him, he's had two pass attempts with the LA Rams. Manziel never played for another team again. Paxton Lynch did not have a ton of interest after his short stint there getting a couple starts with Denver. So that's one, two, three, four, and five quarterbacks out of this group that were first

rounders that had nothing going on. All right, so let's look at guys that were first round picks and then went to a new team and had some starts. Mark Sanchez, if you remember the Dick Enberg pronunciation, 62 starts to the Jets, 11 for everybody else. Josh Freeman, remember when Tampa had him? You're like, this guy's a horse. Two starts the rest of his career post-Tampa. Tim Tebow, 14 starts with Denver. God, that number seems low.

Two with the Jets. Blaine Gabber, this is actually a success story. 27 starts at the beginning of his career, 21 with a handful of other teams. RG3, 35 starts with Washington. Seven at post-post-Washington. Tannehill, Ryan Tannehill. I'm going to put a little bold mark around Ryan Tannehill.

88 starts with Miami, which probably feels higher than we would remember it. 43 with Tennessee. His first two years were terrific statistically. Took a step back somewhat last year. But he, I'm telling you to remember this one because he seems to fall into his own category altogether. Brandon Whedon, 20 starts, then five. E.J. Manuel, 17 starts with Buffalo, then one. Teddy Bridgewater, weird one, 28 starts with Minnesota, then 35 with Carolina, New Orleans, and Denver. Jameis, maybe in that Tannehill group, 70 starts with Tampa.

He probably still would have been a starter there even though he's a turnover machine. But once you get the option of bringing Brady, that's going to change your career path. He would have had more than seven starts with New Orleans if he had stayed healthy, and he's the number one guy on the JEP chart with the Saints. So Jameis could be one of those rare guys

that goes from a team as a top pick and then has a real career after that. Mariota, 61 starts in Tennessee, zero since. Jared Goff has 69 starts in the Rams, 14 with Detroit. He's going to be Detroit's guy, I guess, for a little while. Carson Wentz, 68 starts with Philly, 17 with the Colts. They were good after one year. That doesn't tell you too much to get excited about.

Mitch, 50 starts in Chicago, zero since. I guess that'll change. And then Sam Bradford, it was kind of like I felt a little different too because the injury part of it. He had with St. Louis, 49 starts and 34 the rest of the way. It's Philly, Minnesota as well. So some quick math on this. The group of 15 quarterbacks that were not the franchise problem solvers,

not the guys that never ever get to touch a football again professionally for money, the group of 15 that were first rounders that started and then never played again, here are the averages. This group averaged 48 starts with the team that drafted them. They averaged 13 starts for the next teams that they played. So the point of this is, is that Tannehill is actually an anomaly. Tannehill is somebody that started almost 90 games with the team that drafted him and then went on

to have a more statistically successful run, but actually be the guy in Tennessee. Jameis has that chance with New Orleans. Wentz, I don't know what to do with. Goff is kind of weird because it was like they wanted to upgrade from him and Stafford wanted out. So I guess Goff could be in this. So if I'm being nice, if I'm being the most lenient with this study, it's that you have

three guys out of that group that moved on to another team out of 15 over a nine-year draft span that actually had somewhat of a starting career. And we only have one year with Goff, one year with Jameis, and honestly, Tannehill's like the gold standard of all of this. I guess you could say Bradford a little, but it was just kind of weird with all the injuries. And then he was basically on a different team every single year after he was with the St. Louis Rams. Those numbers are not very good. Now, why does this happen? Interesting quote that I got from a friend of mine who covers football, and I don't know that he shared it, so I'm not going to

name who the quarterback was or who it was that shared it with me, but he was talking about a quarterback in this year's upcoming class in 2023. And the guy said, hey, I have a second round grade on it. And then the guy from the football team said, well, if you have a second round grade, that means he's a first rounder because that's the way it works now. So does it mean now we have even a higher bust rate than 50-50 based on just this last 10-year stretch that I haven't used the most recent guys in 21 and 20 and then 18-19? Although it's already leaning towards, hey, they're half your bust right there as we look at those picks in the first round. So could it be that now the evaluation is stretched where teams are knowingly taking

lesser prospects earlier than ever before? It didn't happen in this year's draft class. And that's why we have maybe an even higher bust rate and why these guys aren't working out when they go into their second team. There's also another part of this that's very much human nature. And it happens, I think, outside of sports, but definitely all the time in sports. It's a little bit like the NBA lottery pick, where if 24 to 30 months previously, you were evaluating a player saying, this guy's a lottery pick. We have him seventh on our board. Then he flames out somewhere else. You're like, well, those guys are stupid. It's that coaching staff. They're dumb. So the same thing happens with quarterbacks. ate all the draft picks. You might have needed a quarterback.

You ended up not taking him. He goes somewhere else. You're like, that coach stinks. They don't know how to develop anybody. The play calling is terrible. They didn't have an offensive line. We're going to bring him in. Then you're like, oh wait, this guy just does suck. It wasn't them and it's not us. Then, of course, you have the other approach you've heard from teams. I think the Jets are doing

this right now. It's way too early for me to sit there saying, hey, Zach Wilson is going to suck. Hasn't been a great start, but unfair to say those things. Where the team goes, all right, after two years, maybe in year three, if you think you don't really have it, even though you spent some high picks, a lot of resources on bringing in a new quarterback, you just keep drafting them. Just keep drafting them until you get the one. So what I'm suggesting here is that it's getting even harder. The numbers are getting even worse.

And then if you add in the Baker group from that class, Lamar's been terrific. Allen has been terrific. Darnold, bust. Rosen, massive bust. And now you're looking at Baker Mayfield and a new team. You want the final number that's probably the scariest out of all of this stuff is if you go

Stafford, Cam, Luck, Mahomes. Let's throw in Lamar, let's throw in Josh Allen. Deshaun, again, would have been seven, but I don't think you can put him in that group now. So if you go from 2009 to 2018, that's six out of 30 quarterbacks that solved your problem as first round picks. Have fun with that. And what I would tell any fan base, not even the Panthers, is I would say this. Instead of saying, hey, I always kind of like that guy. When you get him, you're probably better off

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Super Bowl champ. He's got a new podcast coming out too as well. Games with names of Sam Morrill. So I'll make sure we're asking about that at the end because I know there's one game in particular he's probably going to want to focus on. I saw the video from Salt Lake. You were at UFC 278. I was home on the couch watching it. I know we're both Rockhold fans.

I want to start there. This is such a loser way to approach it. It's not the way a Super Bowl champ would look at it. It might be my favorite loss of anybody I've ever rooted for. I'd have to agree. Gutsy performance. That fight, and I don't know where he's going to go from there.

I haven't really talked to him about his future, but if it was one of his last fights, if he didn't win, that would be the way to go out. if you didn't win, that would be the way to go out. You know, just guy breaks his ribs, breaks his nose right away, gets through it, rocks him a few times. And I don't know if it was the altitude or something, but he was a little too gassed to just finish it off because he hit him with that step back left hook twice.

And I thought it was going to go, but it was awesome to be there. I was there to support my guy and I'm just, I'm bummed he couldn't get it done, but I'm super proud of the hard work and the growth he got out of last year and getting ready for that fight

because anytime you're out of something, he got out of last year and getting ready for that fight. Cause anytime you're out of something for, he was out of it for three years. Anytime you're out of anything at the highest level for, for six months, it's a grind to get back. And, uh, you know, he, he went out there and he showed everyone who he was. All right. This is, this is a good transition julie because you know you have been out now for a year going into your second year being out i know i was reading the quotes from the other day where you were like you know i'm gonna put myself through some workouts just sort

of see what's out i think there's a difference between that first off season like that first time you're like man this is such a nice breather to then being like, and I think I kind of miss it a little bit. So how different is this lead up for you thinking you're still retired as opposed to probably the break from finally shutting it down after all the years of playing ball? I mean, it's completely different that first year you're out, you still have, I mean, I retired because of an acute injury, you know, my, my knee, like I tore the root of my meniscus. So I was dealing with all that. And getting through practice, and if that's a grind,

football ain't fun when you're hurting. You know what I mean? Especially when you're going to be getting other things here left and right. When you go into a game at 70%, 65%, and you got to get through a game and be productive and go out and produce. It's tough and it hurts you as an athlete psychologically. You sit there and you're like, that was such an easy movement to me literally a year ago or two years ago. literally a year ago or two years ago.

And then, you know, so that's what I was dealing with with my first year out. That real, fresh, terrible feeling of getting through a season. Now that I got a year under my belt, my body's kind of calcified, my body's feeling decent. Now you sit there and you're like, you know, you go out and play like little pickleball or you shoot hoops and you're like, my knee feels you go out and play like little pickleball or you shoot hoops.

You're like, man, my knee feels kind of good. I feel kind of good right now. And I'm not compounding my body or my legs with the load that I'm usually doing when you're playing professionally. But, you know, you do get a little curious, if you know what I mean. So how curious are you then? Well, I'm about to go to the gym right now, so we'll see after this workout. But there'd have to be a lot of things to happen for me to go out

and really consider something like that. It's not just, all right, let's put the cleats on and go to the grass and practice. There's a whole leading up to getting ready for an NFL football season, especially when you're at the age of 36 and you missed a year and you haven't been putting that compound load on your legs like you're used to doing. I'd have to evaluate some things, but the curiosity is there.

I just don't know the percentage. Okay, so then what are the workouts like? Are you doing specific football workouts as if you were getting ready for the season? Are you working with a trainer? How intense is this? I mean, I go to church. I do a lot of boxing training. And then I've also, I probably run probably six times, eight times a month, twice a week, one and a half times a week on average. Uh, and, and I do do some kind of football specific explosive ballistic type training as far as, you know, they have this thing called the extra genie. It's a, it's a, um, a rope pulley system. It helps with, you know, your get off and your take off and your explosion. And I like that because ultimately, you know,

that's when I always get my cuttis. You know, you always get in your best shape when you do sprints. So I do that naturally now. And that's what I also evaluate. Like my knee doesn't feel bad. It doesn't blow up on me, you know. But, you know, so those are the exercises I'm doing. And I'll continue to do until I can't.

So part of it though, isn't just the cuts and the breaks. You want to be hot. Like this is, this is about the aesthetic part of your next step too. Like if that's the, you know, part of the by-product is just looking awesome, then we're good to go. I mean, you're a PMT listener. I mean, I'm, I'm like two time thirst trap winner of the fucking the tankies. I mean, I got something to live up to. These are high standards we live by. It's all fair. This is all fair.

I do want to ask you then going back to that last year. I mean, was it tough to watch film or yourself that last year? It's true. That's honestly why I retired. When you start looking old, like, and it's not even just the games. It's the take. It's like, it's the practices, the body language. I mean, I wanted to throw up. That's why, I mean, that's why I had to retire.

Because you always look, when you're a younger player and like, I remember you play a couple guys and they're in their absolute prime when you're still trying to figure things out. And then you figure things out and it's like four or five years later and that guy that you still are battling who was a badass dude has diminished. That's blood in the water. I'm going to embarrass him every time. I'm going to try to light him up because I remember how hard it was and how he used to embarrass me. And I have a whole lot of those out there. So, you know, that blood was in the water. Guys were going to come after me. I had to get out. I remember one of my favorite ones ever.

You know, I get to know Darren Woodson pretty well, safety legend with the Dallas Cowboys. And I was like, when'd you know you were done? He was like, we were watching film. And I was like, who is that? Get off the light. Who is that? And they were like, dude. And he was like, oh my God. Like it took him a second to realize it was him.

And he was like, that was it. He goes, I could, I was so embarrassed watching myself. And he's like, on the field, I had no idea it was that bad. I mean, it's true. You know, then you go do drills that were like remedial drills just to get you warmed up and that's all filmed and then you watch it you watch these things you're like man there's no pop like where's the explosion out can't get over my my knees over my shoulders oh that's disgusting that guy almost covered me that should never happen like those types of

things were going through my mind i'm like i this is like i love the game too much and i have that taste of you know at the high level when you feel that and you taste that and you've worked all your life to get there and stay there you know what and once you see it go you're like yeah this ain't me this i can't do that so when you look at... I see you got the Brady hat on, by the way. Is there a discount code that you can share with us for that? Or is that just friends and family? I think it's friends and family.

Okay. All right. I think it's friends and family. I don't have a promo code. Hopefully, he does hear this because he hasn't returned my text messages in a while. And I'm giving him free publicity. That's why I did it. That's why I honestly did it. I heard this is like, you got like top five potty in sport world. This is going to get some, you know, some unearned media. And

I'm over here. I got perfect hydration. I said, Tom, why don't I throw you on there too, dude? Yeah. See, I feel like you've done enough with Brady that if your texts are ignored, you shouldn't feel the same way the rest of us do. Because I have a rule that if the guy's clearly way more famous and more successful than me, if I text him twice without any response, then it's on him. I learned that rule from Van Pelt. If the other guy has more juice than you do, and you go 0 for 2 on two text inquiries, then you're just going to hang out until he hits you back up later on. But I would think that you and Brady are a little... I would think you're beyond worrying about hang out until he hits you back up later on. But I would think that you and Brady are a little, like I would think you're beyond, you know,

worrying about what your ratio is on the text responses. No, yeah. I honestly don't. I don't hit them up. I know I'm just messing around, but I would like them to come on the podcast. I haven't got brave enough to ask them yet. I still get scared to ask him to do anything,

even though I'll do like 14, 15 things a day on all his brands, this, that. But, you know, I don't like it. That's the worst part of when you're out of the league, is actually like now I have other shit. I got the production company. We got the podcast, Games With Names. And now you got to go ask people for things. And I remember being asked for these things. Now I have other shit. I got the production company. We got the podcast, Games With Names. And now you got to go ask people for things.

And I remember being asked for these things. And you're like, dude, it's not the time right now. It's so hard. I don't want to bother the guys that are still in the league because I know what they're going through. They already got their family that they're probably negating because it's football season. They got other things. They got off the field things. Let them do that when they want to hit you up. They got other things. They got off the field things like

let them do that when they want to hit you up. They'll hit you. It's like a bird. You know, you let the bird fly. You let them out of the cage. They'll come back. They'll come back. I'm telling you right now, you're going to lose that. You're going to have to figure out. Now, you don't want to be annoying about it, but to never ask isn't doing anyone any good. And I think if anybody's your friend, you go one time, hey, dude, I get it. You get a million asks. I'm starting this thing any way down the line. And then what you do is you don't ask for tomorrow. You ask for months, and then it's a couple months later. Because everybody says yes to the layaway plan. They just go,, oh yeah, I'll do that in a couple of months.

No problem, Jules. You're my guy. And then it's the next thing you know, it's October. And they'd already said yes in August. So I think we got to get you a little bit more aggressive in everything else you do. I don't, I don't doubt that you can do this as well. Yeah, we'll, we'll figure it out. You know, it's a learning experience, but I'm, I'm coachable.

So I appreciate that. All right. Well, there you go. Can you give me a sense of, you know, you were so good when we talked last year about the Patriot part, and I do want to start there. I want to just do all New England for the next 15 minutes here. But when you see, like, your installs had to be totally different

because you're talking about dealing with Brady, you know, where other teams are figuring what they can get away with and all their stuff. Like, how different of a transition is that, do you think, for a coaching staff and Belichick overseeing something where he probably didn't have to worry about going too fast for anybody

and now with a completely different offensive regime trying to figure out the best way to balance being tougher to defend but also making sure he's not overwhelming a second-year guy? I mean, I think that not just has to do with your quarterback but that has to do with the whole room uh you know as as a as a whole when you have a bunch of veteran guys that have been in a system for a while you know you you can

compound new things and you can be a game plan. But when you have a young team and you have a new play caller or guys that aren't comfortable in that situation or not used to doing that situation, you have to simplify it because you guys have to learn each other. Everyone's got to learn each other. And we had to have similar parts of that later in my career because we kind of evolved to you know what the college schools are doing now with these one word tell everyone what to do kind of nascar terms which is playing fast so like i even had to learn you know later in my career my you know, that zero out slot is now South or whatever example, like they change

things constantly. So it is tough for even older players that are in evolving systems. But when you're starting from ground zero with a rookie quarterback, you know, that's, that's really tough, especially going into another year with the Patriots situation as they have right now. Going into year two of a quarterback that had a solid first year, has a lot to work on. But now you have to go work with the completely new play caller. He was just getting comfortable and familiar with how Josh liked to play call. And Josh was getting comfortable with how he likes to the plays being called that relationship is like is huge that quarterback play caller relationship i mean that's ultimately

where it all starts um i don't know if i answered your question by any means i got off track i got i got i got off track in asking it but you actually answered it really well for a poorly formed question because i'm just always as an, I'm very interested in, you know, granted, I watch all these games, right? We already know this from the area of the whole deal. And I was always so impressed with Belichick and the entire staff. And granted, Brady's part of this too, of the adaptability week to week, which we've already talked about. Like, hey, this week, we're going to be this kind of team, but next this week we're going to be this kind of team, but next week we're going to be this kind of team. And most teams can't do that because they either don't trust the players to do it, you know what I mean, or they don't want to change what they, you know, sometimes coaches can be so stubborn they don't want to change their identity. Like, we always have to be this,

and that can lead to predictability. And that's what I always thought was so impressive, whether it was a system for the season, whether it was week-to-week stuff. But I guess I'd also like to know, like, how much, how often did you feel like, even with you and Brady on the same page for all those years, where you were like, wow, we're going to try this,

or we're going to start doing some of these things, or we're going to tease this in the first quarter leading this? How much did you feel challenged in an offense that always felt like it was something everybody could trust? I mean, there was plenty of moments where we would look at each other like, why are we running this? Or why are we doing this?

And that just... That's normal, though, for anybody, right? It's normal. And that's because coaches, they're over here. Sometimes coaches try to overcoat, overcoat, like, overthink. They think about every situation. They think about every, you know what I mean?

And sometimes it's like you're overprepared or you overdo something. Or, you know, sometimes when that would happen, you know, Bill would always just say, like, well, we only need, like, five or six plays. You run those five or six plays really well. Like, for every look you're going to get. You should be all right. And that's kind of how I always liked it. The faster you play, the less you have in, you know, that's, that's,

that's when guys can play fast. They're not thinking about what, what fucking, what's your personnel group? Oh, it's army. Oh, so that makes me the F. All right, now zero sloppy. And you know, so that there's a lot of the communication of all this stuff and the complexity sometimes is a downfall for a lot of these teams. And then you look at some other teams, like I look at some teams, I'm like, man, they're just running these basic concepts, and they're lighting it up. And

if you watch it throughout the whole season, I mean, they pretty much do what they do. A lot of these coaches, they're going to do what they do well. And that's what it is. And then, you know, they have the tendency breakers of all these other plays. So who did you watch this first year really get a chance to sit back where you're like, man, I really like what that team does on offense? sit back where you're like, man, I really like what that team does on offense? I mean, everyone's going to say the Rams. I mean, everyone's going to...

What is it? What is it about McVay that you see that we don't see? I mean, he dresses a lot of things up. He runs like... He runs a lot of the same plays, but he changes up personnel groups, formations, and that gets defenses to lose guys. And then you'll see Cooper cut wide open down the field

because he's not playing in his traditional spot. He's playing in another spot, and he knows all the positions, and all the other guys know all the positions. So everyone's playing everywhere, and that's hard for a defense to like really, all right, they got to like call out. All right, where's this guy? All right, that guy's right there when guys are constantly moving. So I like that. The spacing that they get in their routes paired with a lot of the play action game.

They kind of got away from it and then they got back to it. I like those play action games because you can marry a lot of your blocking into your route running, which I always love. So I thought they were good. That's the one team that you're always going to say. They kind of have a plan for everything instead of just going out and calling plays on, you know, all right, third and whatever, we're going to just run four verticals, which you see from teams. For everything, instead of just going out and calling plays on, all right, third and three, or third and whatever,

we're going to just run four verticals, which you see from teams. It's the same play. All right, it's four verticals. There's no methodicalness about how we're going to call this play. I think they have a plan every time they go into a drive. So I like the way McVay calls plays and those guys are doing. I mean, Kyle Shanahan, he's in that same kind of world. And these are coaches that I don't know these systems. I don't know the West Coast system. I know like the Charlie Weiss system and the McDaniels O'Brien system, which is completely different. There's like three systems that are in the NFL. There's the West Coast. There's that

other system that we're in. I don't know who started it. I think Charlie Weiss was one of the pioneers of it. And then every coach after got evolved and added their twist to it. And there's this number system. So, you know, it's pretty cool. It'd be pretty cool to see, you know, Mick Bay and how his play calling has evolved. Because, you know, it really came from the West Coast system back with Bill Walsh. I was a huge Bill walsh i was

a huge bill walsh fan and then you know it goes to each one of these coaches the home grins and then like the andy reeds and then they spit out a couple coaches and you know it'd be pretty cool to see those guys and really get an in-depth look like in a in a meeting or at a practice with how they they do their their stuff so if you're a Raiders fan, you know, you're listening to this, then what could you expect from a McDaniel system? Once he really gets this thing implemented,

what is it? I think what he does is he's going to, he's going to use the players he has. He's going to use their strengths to the best that they can. And, you know, I was just at their practice yesterday with, uh,

the Patriots over in Vegas, the joint practice. And, you know, I was just at their practice yesterday with the Patriots over in Vegas, the joint practice. And they look really good. I mean, they got a lot of playmakers. I think with Derek Carr, I think McDaniels is going to be, they're going to have a really good relationship. It already looks like that. I saw some catches by Devontae Adams that I don't know why the Green Packers let him go. You know, Hunter Renfro has his niche. He's just, I think they got a lot of playmakers.

And I didn't even get to see Darren Waller, which I was excited to see how he was going to be because playing with Gronk for so long, you know what a tight end looks like when he's a badass dude. I wanted to see him really bad, but he wasn't out there. I think he's got a hammy or something. But, you know, I think Josh is going to use all the players on that offense. He's going to use all their strengths, and they're going to have a great plan. And they have great players that complement each other well. You know, you got Devontae, who they can move around anywhere, but you could just throw him at an X and just say, all right, it's one-all on him.

And if they take him out, then you're going to have Hunter Renfro in that intermediate game along with Waller. I mean, they got a lot of playmakers over there. It's just, we'll see if their line can hold up. And then Jacobs, the kid, the running back, if they keep him, you know, I don't know what they're going to do with that. They just got rid of Drake.

They're probably going to run off that. They just got rid of Drake. They're probably going to run off that play action as well. I mean, depending on how that division is built up, I mean, if you look at all those defensive lines, they're all built for passing teams. So if they're zigging, he could zag. I don't know if he's going to go that route because they can run the football with that running back. He's really good.

Yeah, I mean, Josh, I think over the years, and you would attest to this, that he's one of the few guys that won't give up on the run. He doesn't give up on it, and it is kind of that zag now. I'm not talking specifically that Buffalo game that was so weird during the regular season, the first time New England and Buffalo met up. I actually felt like Buffalo should have let Josh pass a little bit more,

but they just didn't want to let Allen throw the football. But that's something about McDaniels that I think, again, if you've watched it long enough, he'll come at you with a run-heavy scheme just to screw you up for a little while and see if you're paying attention, see if you're ready for it. I mean, you've got to look at it. That was the strength of that team last year. Yeah.

As far as they've got a young quarterback with Mack, and yeah, they were letting the training wheels off eventually. They were working them in, but the best thing for a young quarterback or a new quarterback is a run game. I don't think they're going to have that simple of an offense this year because they've got a veteran-type quarterback in Derek Carr. This guy, he is what he is we all know he is what he is but it's going to be interesting to see him with Josh because you know he was they were getting there with with Gruden and and that whole regime like they were close a couple times they flirted with they last year

with the adverse situations they overcame. It'll be good to see how these two work together. I'm really interested to see how they evolve going into the year. Is there a quarterback... We've got a couple more things here, and then I want to ask you about the first episode of the podcast here

before we finish. Is there a quarterback that maybe you feel like the public is wrong about whether it's a you know baker actually is good or tua is actually good or some of these other guys that feel like they're constantly criticized on the shows uh where when you've watched it you're like you know what there's actually something here i i mean give me some names out there brush up my memory who else what are some of the other headlines? You know, like Dak feels like there's a wide gap

on like what people think of Dak Prescott. Basically, I'm just wondering if there's somebody that you feel like is criticized too much. But again, the depth of the quarterback position feels like it's pretty deep right now. You know, Cousins is like a middle-of-the-pack guy. Garoppolo's kind of like a middle-of-the-pack guy. He's going to lose a starting gig, apparently.

I think Jimmy G gets hated on a lot. And, you know, there's some headlines out what I said about him a couple weeks back or a few months back on that All the Smoke show. But as much as you want to say anything whether how he's performed or not he's brought a team to the super bowl and an nfc championship and he's won you know an incredible amount i don't know what that is there's some guys that just win but i think he gets hated on a lot because i have a lot of niners friends i'm a niner i grew up a niners fan and they're all like off with Jimmy's head.

We want Trey Lance. I'm like, well, the grass ain't always greener. You know, like this, this is going to be a whole process when you bring in a young quarterback that he's like 21 years old.

Like he's went to a one double a, this guy doesn't know what real football is quite yet. Like there are guys that can make that jump and I'm not saying it's impossible, but it ain't like everyone can do it. And Jimmy G, you guys were already in a decent situation where you got a guy that kind of managed the game. Yeah, he lost a couple games, but I always believed that there was that one time

that Jimmy was going to flip it. He never did. He kind of made me look like an idiot, but I think he gets hated on a lot for what you know, what he's done in this league. I don't care about the teams. I don't care about who he had around him. You know, we've seen a lot of teams not go to Super Bowls with, you know, really good quarterbacks and really good offenses and really good every, like,

I mean, Aaron Rodgers. He hasn't been to the Super Bowl in 10 years. Jimmy G went to the Super Bowl. Went to the NFL and beat them over there. You know what I mean, Aaron Rodgers, he hadn't been to the Super Bowl in 10 years. Jimmy G went to the Super Bowl. Went to the NFL and beat them over there. You know what I mean? I still cannot believe the results of that game last year. Before the pre-workout wears off, because we know you're going to run in there, give us a little teaser here on what the first episode is with Sam of the new podcast.

So Games with Names, presented by Winbet, is a podcast we came up with a few months back. We partnered up with Sam Morrell, a funny-ass guy from New York, built in conflict. This guy obviously loves every New York team. You know, me being in Boston for 12 years, growing up in Boston really as an adult, I became kind of Bostonian-ish. I pretty much loved all the teams

there. We got a close-knit professional team. Everyone kind of knows each other, so that's pretty fun. We're going to be breaking down the 18-1 game with Teddy Bruschi and Eli Manning. I believe it's Teddy Bruschi's first time going on talking about a loss of any sort, especially this game. So it's really cool and fun to hear both perspectives, to talk to Eli Manning,

even though he's my first favorite Manning. I like him better. I like Peyton because he knocked us out of afc championships and i wasn't quite like a really good patriot at the time that he beat us in the super bowl i think i had like two plays in that game so like i didn't have a real hatred for him quite yet yes i wanted to have that super bowl but like i wasn't like in it yet so i actually kind of like, so it's fun to have him on the podcast and go over this crazy game. The 18-1, the Patriots

losing 0-7 to the Giants and hearing about that year through both their eyes. It's fun. We talk pop culture around these games times. We go and talk about what was going on in our lives. It's just kind of conversational shit talking between a New York guy and a Boston Bay Area guy. And then we bring in other people to join. So it's actually been pretty fun. It's been really fun. And I hope people that listen, they feel the fun that it kind of shines off because it's genuinely, we're having fun.

Well, I mean, as soon as you said Bruschi, Bruschi's one of my favorite guys. It was awesome getting to know him at ESPN and I used to love having him come in and then he would come in and tell stories. I remember we had Bruschi with Saturday, do the same couple segments together, going back and forth on that ridiculous Peyton comeback in Indy,

which probably cost the Pats another ring because they would have beaten the Bears. But anyway. That was 06, 24-7 at halftime or something? Yeah. 21-7. We watched that so many times, even though I wasn't on that team. For like four-minute offense and two-minute offense. And every time

Bill would put that on, you could just hear his teeth grinding. It was gnarly. So funny. He'll bring in all these old-ass videos, these old-ass clips of how a defensive end should

take on the YY wing and he'll show LT blowing it up he's like this is how you do it you know just the best player of all time at the position love it yeah Andre just go do what Lawrence Taylor did no problem

hey Jules thanks a lot man good luck on the pod games and names with Sam Morell out now. You can check that one, and we'll catch up soon. Thanks. All right, bro. I'll see you, man. You want details?

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Let me tell you what's required. Life advice is lifeadvicerr at gmail.com. We had a lot of follow-ups to the guy talking about Ian Ravaport. And even the guy that talked to Ian Rappaport followed up with us and sent us his demo.

Yeah. Which I respect. I'm not going to watch it. But, no. I guess we probably could watch it. I would love to watch it. You want to watch it? Alright. I guess we'll all watch it together. But somebody definitely said in the writing, and I kind of knew this when I was reading it, they were like,

the absolute power move in all of this was hoping it's going to get back to rapaport right um that it because it was on the pod that eventually it will work its way here's the thing it it's it's more likely than it isn't that somebody will bring up to rapaport like hey did you hear these guys talking about this dude who set you up with your lighting three days and was apparently fucking amazing at it um rapid border he met the guy so you know i don't i don't know what this story on the podcast will mean and like we try to reiterate multiple times when we talked about it is like there's only so much a person can do for the other person and my guess would be whatever this guy wants to be and all this other stuff.

Yeah, but now there's peer pressure. Peer pressure is a very powerful thing. And if people are hitting up Rapaport and the dudes are like, hey, did you run the pod? You gotta help this guy out. He's trying to live out his dream. It's a solid play.

You never know. There was another guy that said that the guy who sent in the question, how we should handle this, there, there was a lot of, lot of, uh, people jumping in here and one guy, and again, he didn't have all the information, so it's unfair to the followup email, but he was like, this guy should be like the dude who's known if he's so good at setting people up with their light three days a week. Um, he should, he should just get the word out.

Rappaport should spread the word like, hey, if you're ever in this part of the country and you need your lighting set up three out of seven days, this is your guy. And I'm just telling you, this part of the country, nobody else is going there. I was going to say, I looked it up yesterday because you said his wife was from there. And I was like, where are we talking about? It's not a frequent flyer place. I don't think people are dropping in that particular market too often. Yeah.

So good thought. Not fair to one of the follow-up community guys here because he just didn't know. He didn't know. You know, if it were Boston or something like this, Rappaport's like, I got a guy. It's fucking awesome. And he's going to be really, he's going to be, you're going to hit it off with him. It's going to be amazing. And then, you know, he may follow up in six months, hoping to build out that Rolodex of contacts.

What are we doing today, Kyle, with the hat and the T-shirt? Because I've noticed this seems to be a theme going on with you today. Well, Titus gave me this hat the last time I saw him. And I was like, I don't think I'll ever wear this out. But I was like, at least I could do is wear it on the podcast. He I think he ordered it online. I don't think he got it in his travels, but I think it says, let me get a pack of reds and ten dollars on Pub six. I just didn't know what I'm going to do with it.

I saw him like a week ago. He's like, I got you a gift. And I don't know. It's really good on you. Thanks don't have many trucker hats but i figured this was like one chance to wear it out he was uh he was in missoula last night right he was just having beers at some dive bar some cores light some cold one cls yeah and then he had a cores like grateful dead hat on to go along with his his absolutely registered neighbor look that he has going on yeah the mustache is a lot it's a lot i don't know it was it was a lot he's loving everything about himself these days

so i'm not gonna say anything but he's loving all the choices he's making these days so i'll just he's i loved it all yeah i think it's funny that you guys are convinced i never want to hang out with you too because he'll be like hey i, I'm actually in Manhattan Beach this weekend for whatever. And then I was like, well, here's a guy you should hit up. Yeah. Then he was like, wait, what? He's like, I'm telling you I'm coming to your town. And you immediately pawned me off to some mutual.

I was like, no, this is the guy that you're going to want to hang out with and just hit him up and buckle up. And he was like, no, what are you doing? I was like, oh, yeah, I'm in France. I'm not. I'm out. You should hang out with him more. You might get some hats out of him. I love the Coors Light hat.

I mean, I thought it looked great. I'll pass it along. Do we have anything else to add to this or should we just kind of get rolling to some of the emails? I'm good. Okay, let's do a gym one. Let's do a gym one. Live and work out in a large city where the gym is usually packed from 5 a.m. to 7 p.m. Wow.

Rough. 5'9", 190, 295 on the bench. A little muscular with a beer gut. Look, if you're 190, throwing up 295, that's great. But when you say 295, it makes me wonder why isn't it 300? So is it really 295? I wouldn't tell anybody I was 295 until I was 300. But again, 300 is a weird way to get to with the way the plates work. That's whatever. You'd be pissed about it. Use it.

I respectfully waited for the squat rack, messed around with some machines, and as soon as it popped open, I scooped it up. As soon as I get done with my first set, some dude stops me, taps me on the shoulder and asks, hey, can you come find me when you're done? I'll be by the bench presser dumbbells.

Already annoyed that he stopped me to ask this, I kind of snapped and said, bro, I'm not gonna walk around the fucking gym looking for you to use the rack aggressive um dude didn't know what to say and walked away should i have been nice this one is sewed up yeah Yeah. Should I have been nice and tried to find the homie? Or was it wrong of him to think of scouring across the gym looking for his lazy ass? Currently writing this email from said squat rack to just wait a couple more minutes. Just a couple, waste a couple more minutes of his time. Wow.

You were super pissed about this. You wrote an email pissed, which is never a good idea somebody who's wrote a few emails pissed off um i probably regret half of them the other half you know so i'm still probably going to do it again at some point so you were mad but you would you know i think you were a little aggressive here bud um squat rack etiquette is very different it's very weird you know different places that i've worked out at traveling you know you've got you've got tripod girl and she's going into squats into sumo dead and it's just like hey you know 20 minutes is a long time oh cool you're gonna do 45 minutes you're gonna fucking take all this footage you take seven minutes in between sets again i'm talking about this workout in hawaii it was

fucking brutal there's just guys looking at each other going, is she seriously doing this? Like if you had a competition coming up, which I don't think you do, uh, this is absurd. Right. But then I had a buddy, I had a buddy in my age group, which I think is funny that I have to like identify that now to be like, so you can understand the processing of, of my older here, where a guy had asked me a couple of years ago, he's like, Hey, I was traveling. I was at a hotel and this guy got on the squat rack and he had just started. And I tapped him and was like, Hey, do you mind if I get in? And he said, no, you can't. And then he hit me up. He's like, was I wrong? And I was like, yeah, you're totally wrong. Like squatting is just sort of that thing where nobody really wants to

share a rack with you, but it'd be nice if everybody kind of kept it to a minute or two in between sets. If you're going heavier, heavier you know it's definitely gonna be closer to two plus minutes um but you have to understand that of course i explained it to my friend told him why he was totally wrong why the response that he got was totally normal and i guess guess what he didn't change his mind he's like yeah i still think it's wrong i'm like okay cool you do not understand any of it you asked me for my perspective i told you the right answer and you're still like, no, everybody else is wrong. Cool. Great talk. So I get your point here that this guy, but I don't think you had to be that hard on him about it because really it's up to the other person that wants the equipment, wants the station. It's his responsibility or her responsibility to monitor it more so than it is

your responsibility to make sure one specific person who you don't even know. So it sounds like you were a little aggro with this. I would appreciate if you just clean it up next time. You said, could I have been nicer? You couldn't have been meaner. I mean, other than you were just like a level below punching this guy. So I think you could be nicer about it. Clearly you were worked up up maybe it was a double dose of pre-workout who knows hearing this right now you're probably agreeing with us because you were in that moment you were intense

maybe it was a heavy day but I don't think it was wrong of him to ask about it but yeah I think that is a bit of an ask you know I'm not mad the other guy asked I'm just saying you're not wrong and that that guy act saying you're not wrong and that that guy act like you're gonna be done but by the way when your shit's still on there like

you're supposed to leave it up and delay the next person while you go walking around the gym to go find that person like yeah i wouldn't do that either so um i don't know i think everybody's kind of wrong and everybody's kind of right in this one i just think you don't have to be that hard about it yeah i'd say just be nicer to strangers. Your life's going to go a lot better. You could save a lot of unforeseen stuff from happening. Just be nicer to strangers than you're currently doing. That's all I'd say.

Yeah, he also kind of broke a rule of don't fire off emails or texts in the heat of the moment. He's saying he did this from the gym right after it happened, right? He was doing it in the squat rack to make the guy wait longer yeah so i mean it's great this guy was really pissed off it's really just not that big of a deal i agree with you you shouldn't have you didn't have to do that what would you guys have done though i mean would you have just said hey

man like i don't that's not really a simple no like what's like i said i love saying no calmly nicely i'm fine with that unless it's a chargers fan and i and i told you i felt disgusting about that no here's here's what you do is you just say hey like if you have your routine kind of factored out you'll be like all right 30 seconds of reps two minutes of rest i've got three more to go hey i'll probably be done in six to eight minutes like that's what i would do and it's on on that guy. Most of us should be keeping track of time. Or say yes and don't do it. And smoke shows.

No, don't do that. Just say a simple no. Kyle said say yes and don't do it. I forgot. What are you doing, Kyle? What do you mean? Be nice. No, you can be like, I forgot. It's not like, I don't have to fucking babysit you, pal. You can just be like, I forgot. I'm listening to a great podcast right now. Ryan Rosillo, Life Advice. I don't know. I'll be nice no you could be like i forgot it's not like i don't have to fucking babysit you pal you could just be like i forgot i'm listening to a great podcast right now ryan rossillo life advice i don't know that'll be that's nicer to people three seconds later he's like no just lie to them

be out be outwardly nice and then go about your business i i think i mean i like whatever i like saying stuff and be like i'll done i'll be done in five minutes and 40 seconds and the guy will be like jesus the rossillo guy's really got a job, man. Yeah. He probably counts his macros. Which I don't. All right. Hey, Kyle, do you want to handle this one? People constantly get really pissed off about the podcast timestamps.

If you're listening on Apple, I guess it's been a long time. If you're listening on Apple, that's not... We're not responsible for that. I can only put one timestamp. shout out to spotify if you click on spotify timestamp that's exactly where it's supposed to be there's ads in between that i can't really do much about so if you're listening on spotify you're you're not saying that right but we're still talking about an inconvenience of like 12 seconds off in either direction right it's not like whatever the whatever the time of the ad is so it could be two If you're, if you're looking for life advice, if you're looking

for life advice, there's going to be three to four ads before that. So, um, you know, if you're on Apple, that's, you know, some of the ads are 30 seconds, some of our minute and a half. So, you know, you're probably off by three minutes. I'd say just get Spotify. It's free. We used to have to rewind tapes, man, to find the song and you, then you just had to guess at it. So, you know, if the timestamps offer a little bit, you're probably going to rewind tapes, man, to find the song, and then you just had to guess at it. So, you know, if the timestamp's off for a little bit, you're probably going to find it. Probably going to find it at some point. There's also like a 15 and

30 second skip ahead button. It's not that hard to search for now. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's down on Spotify. Okay. Alright, this one's sort of weird it's actually not that weird i don't let me um all right let me do this one instead huge fan of the show 33 year old male married toddler daughter 510 225 bench 325 squat 415 wow this guy's just gotta wait all day to get in there,

put in that work. I grew up in Georgia and moved to Chicago after college for a job. Is your wife from Chicago? Because you realize that you also have to move to Chicago when your wife's from Chicago. I met my wife in 2015. A lot of my wife's sorority sisters from the University of Illinois ended up moving to Chicago after graduation. So there was always a bunch of people around to hang out with or plan activities. No problems with any of them, and most of the sorority sisters' boyfriends were decent hangs as well. All right. Great situation.

A year ago, we moved out of the city. The area we were in wasn't great for raising a kid, so we moved out of the city towards our hometown to be a little closer to our family, get a bigger place in the yard. We're an hour closer to our family and out of the city, but we're also an hour away from most of our friends. Our friends have been great and made trips out to visit us every once in a while, but there's still plenty of times we wish we could

meet up with someone for dinner, activity, golf, bowling, park, the park. We've been in our new place for a little over a year and I haven't made a ton of progress in the friend department. How do I make friends? Or I guess the question is, how do you make friends as an adult? I used to make friends at the gym, but I bought a home gym when we moved last summer. We had the space and I didn't want to worry about gyms closing again for COVID. I felt pretty creepy chatting up parents at the park with my wife. It's even worse when I'm on a solo dad duty and take my daughter to the park. Most of the time, if there are additional people at the park, it'll be a mom and her kids. The moms are always friendly, but we chit-chat about the kids and milestones, etc. I usually pick up my daughter from daycare after work.

And again, most of the other parents picking up are women. Is it acceptable for me to ask for the mom's information instead of play dates and stuff like that? Is that begging for a weird discussion argument for my wife? I'm not trying to turn this into anything nefarious. I just want to make some friends a little closer to us so we can hang out together. Any tips or suggestions to make it less weird or creepy?

I like that your concern is in the right place here. There's a couple things I think you could do. The first thing would be buy a Camaro. Something like that. American muscle. And whatever your town setup is, just drive around the town for hours. Just lap after lap after lap. Rev the engine at the stoplights.

Maybe peel out when it's a little bit later. And just be known as Camaro guy in town. Because if I know one thing about the Midwest, they love American muscle cars. And you might get invited to a club. The other thing you could do is when your kid starts playing sports, just walk up to a group of guys and ask them just flat out, hey, does anyone want to be best friends for the rest of our lives? That just cuts right to it.

It's efficient. They know where you're coming from. It sounds like you don't want to join the swinger community, but apparently I think that speeds up the getting to know each other process from what i've heard it's just it's just diving head for it's like summer classes three hour sessions not tuesdays and thursdays just jumping in three hours a day five days a week getting that credit uh i'm kidding because you're asking the absolute worst fucking person in the world

how to make friends as an adult uh The only thing I can tell you is just start golfing and join a golf club. And I've thought about it on my own. I'm like, hey, just start golfing again. I used to do it. I belonged to a couple of different clubs when I was in Vermont. I was decent enough to play. I wasn't going to embarrass myself and have some nice days and have some shitty ones just like everybody else. But I think as you get older, that's like the best way to do it. The gym, I don't want to talk to anybody. I don't have any kids that I can force my way into. There's probably plenty of people I wouldn't want to be friends with that would want to be friends with me, but there might be a group of people that I'd like to be friends with that apparently don't want to be friends with me.

So, and I work so much, I normally don't care about it, but I've been pretty bad, uh, the last couple of years in Connecticut. It didn't really matter because I was always working and I was going into work all the time. And now I'm literally home all the time. So I am the worst fucking person to ask. So if Kyle or Steve want to take this, uh, I wouldn't listen to any of my advice. My, I will save the best for last because Steve actually has to think about this stuff

coming up soon. But like, I, it's my first instinct was going to be like i'll sit in bars but i was like oh you're a family guy that's probably not the type of guys you want to meet drink more most yeah most situations i would be like man go to bars you'll find a guy's like beer you'll find a great friend but look if you get fucking sideways four days a week you're gonna meet some people i just think i think that that's not going to be your case. Cause you want like people with kids or whatever. It sounds like your kids are probably too young to be in public school. Cause that's where all the kids come from. And then you kind of do the play day and you get to meet the parent as,

as they come, you know, like, you know, I have Timmy's dad. Something's off with that guy, you know, next,

but I think, yeah, the golf golf is great. And I mean, I don't know. There's you're just, it's going to have to be through activities from your kids, right? Because you kind of want people that are in the same situation as you, carpools and stuff like that.

So, I mean, it's coming, I guess. I'd say, yeah, just jump in a couple foursomes in a golf range and see if you like anybody. I don't know. Yeah, it sounds like he's just like a couple years off of being able to do this in a non-creepy way. Because, yeah, you're right. Like from everything that I've heard, it's like basically once you have kids, you hang out with your kids' friends.

You're going to be at soccer games together. You're going to be doing all this shit together. Your kids' friends? You're hanging out with five-year-olds? No. I'm sorry. Your kids' friends' parents. Other parents. I was going to say. I don't remember that. You're not hanging out with younger kids. It's a good call. Well, he also didn't really say he wants to go out to dinner. What do you want to do with said people he wants to golf bowl

and go to parks i mean you could all those places you can go solo and meet people i mean i would the whole thing about not you know asking for a girl's number who's like not your wife and be like hey i just want to be friends like that's probably not a great road to go down no he's aware of that and he's right because i just there's going to be even if it's from the purest intentions even when the most of the people totally get where you're coming from there's going to be one that tells the husband because she's a lunatic where she's going to be like oh so and so asked me for my number at daycare you know and it's going to be completely taken the wrong way and whether or not maybe she's normal but then tells that story to the husband maybe the husband's a lunatic.

Now, all of a sudden, you're a fucking weird guy in the eyes of these people that totally didn't understand the sincerity with you just wanting to meet some new people. No, that's what it is. It's like the guys only want one thing meme. And like, you're just like, I just want to make friends. And she's like, he wants to have sex with me. So like, you're totally screwed there no matter what.

So I would definitely not do that. Or at least don't do it. Like if the other guy, if her husband's around, do it with him. So it's like a little bit less creepy. But once you, I said, you said to Kyle, go to, I don't know, you could go out to places solo and just like chatting people up. It doesn't have to be a bar. Go bowling. Yeah. Go to a golf course. Like, I don't know, do some activities that you like. Uh, it doesn't have to just be, you know, I don't know. It doesn't have to be a necessarily at a bar or like a drinking activity, but just like, that's how you meet people, meet people that things that you like together i wouldn't bowl solo something about that seems

weird but i definitely would golf on it yeah i feel like it depends on what you look like yeah if you look like the guy from like uh what is it uh from big lebowski yeah maybe don't look that way but i feel like if you know you could be the intriguing solo bowling guy but then the other thing which uh no cb shem... No, who's the guy... Like, the villain guy? The Jesus. You don't fuck with the Jesus. Dark-haired Jesus.

Yeah, like, don't look like that guy. But other than that, you'll probably be fine. Maybe you could make a hat like Kyle's hat that says, not here to sleep with your wife, but to bowl with your husband.

I got a guy... And you wear that to... You wear that to daycare when you pick up your kid and then you ask for a phone number so that way the wife knows where your head's at. Great t-shirt, maybe. How many of those hats would you have to make

for it to be cost-effective? Because just one, you'd be like, and I don't know who else would buy it. Should I do another one? Because I can't help this guy. Yeah. I'm the worst possible guy to ask him. Making friends is hard, man.

Okay, we got one more. We'll just sneak it in here. Newer fan here. Just started listening after PMT last year. All right, thanks. 25 years old, 62, 225. Decent beard, better mustache, killer legs, according to my wife. Well, I guess deep down down that's all that matters.

The problem started when my wife and I bought a house a year ago just outside Fayetteville, Arkansas. We were PhD students at the university. Small place in the typical subdivision.

Really have no issues outside of my older next-door neighbor who I'll call Dick. Nice. Yeah. I see what you did there. Clever.

Dick is around 60 and has a pretty grating personality. His wife and son are nice, but nearly every time I walk outside, he tries to pull me into some long conversation and give me advice. How long to cut the yard,

that I should cut the tree out front. Yeah, this stuff. I don't know. I get it. This guy sucks. Wow, Suri fucking hates him. Dick will occasionally trap me into a conversation asking about work. And God forbid I say I'm stressed.

Well, I don't let work do that to me. I deal with it. And don't worry, man. Yep. You're right. Suri was right. Because cool, bro. Yeah.

You asked me a question. I gave you an answer. Like no matter what, you were going to have the solution to everything all the time. I mean, that's I'm trying to think of like the perfect example because it's reminding me of a conversation I had with this guy. It was like, no matter what I said, he was just going to kind of tell me that he had the solution for it all the time. And I, that guy sucks. So if this guy's doing this to you all the time, then he stares at me in that weird superior old guy who thinks he's better than you because he's old way. It's kind of the

point that I purposely avoid stepping out of my house when I see his vehicle in the driveway. Yeah, that's a problem. I'm there. Um, that's the way this is. This is you.

Yeah. You have a Richard on your own, don't you? I mean, he doesn't, he's, he lives by himself. Uh,

and I like to the point where like, if I see him outside, I won't go outside. But, and my wife and I always joke, as soon as we step outside, like take the dogs out or get the mail, like he's just outside in the yard doing something. It's like, what are you doing? won't go outside. But and my wife and I always joke, as soon as we step outside, like take the dogs out or get the mail, like he's just outside in the yard doing something.

It's like, what are you doing? You're always outside. Oh, yeah. And then he'll try to string me into a conversation about like how like, hey, why don't you do you want to connect the fence in the back? No, I don't want to do that. I did it this way because it's the way I wanted to do or like, hey, your tree clippings are, you know, they're washing up in front of my mailbox.

Don't just like complain about all this shit all the time to the point where i literally just don't go outside whenever i see him around so this is my my advice would be to avoid this guy at all costs uh all right so he continues but all caps he did give me his old floor jack he wanted uh to get rid of and some plants for the front of our garden so it's not all negative my wife says he's just an old guy with no friends well maybe we can connect that old guy with the previous email yeah pen pals at least this guy don't fucking talk to you all day bud all right uh yeah ask this guy if he's ever been to naperville all right um and again that's not where the emailer was from i just like like naming random Chicago towns outside of Chicago towns. My wife says he's just an old guy, no friends.

He wants someone to tell what to do to mentor, but I honestly don't want or need that shit. Yeah, this guy's a doctor, man. Yeah, come on. I don't fucking need you telling you how to dig a trench. You should tell him somebody died that you were hey i was working the day i lost somebody no that wouldn't happen to me don't want to get to you dude

my main question revolves around if you've dealt with the older annoying neighbor before have any tips for me to stop worrying every time i walk the doggies outside trying to tell me how to live i mean there's always the way you could just really cut it off at the pass here and just say, hey man, fucking back off. There you go. That usually works. Arkansas, you could insult Trump in front of him.

Pretty good chance. Start putting up weird flags. Just go outside in an Elizabeth Warren t-shirt yeah but then he might talk to you more and try to convince you yeah right that might that might not work at all uh he's like

man that Bill Clinton he's a fucking rascal huh laughing laughing laughing alright yeah uh you know you should just start sharing you should make this your entertainment that's what i would do yeah i would make this you would just start telling them that you were you know your phds and aliens and that you've been abducted and that there's a lot of stuff that people don't know and just be so,

I mean, if you have the right personality for this and most people aren't built different and can't really do this and I'm not even saying that, I'm one of those people. Although I'll notice every now and then I'm doing something for my own entertainment where I'll kind of like do something

and go, what did you do? So you're going to buy solo you laughing in the car later because of what you just did here where no one else knows what you just did i'm like yeah i did it uh you could have a lot of fun with this if you were wired the right way where you're like you know what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna out miserable this guy start showing him new music just stuff just different just share the worst theories possible with this guy. You ever heard of Doja Cat, pal? You're going to love this. Although, I think Doja Cat's incredibly talented. I could see

this guy. I do too. Yeah, I mean, to me, she checks a lot of boxes. Yeah, for old guys, I don't know. A lot. Give them a couple of Ancient Aliens DVDs. See how silly he likes those. No, you just be like, wait, you think we controlled world currency?

Dude, it's the stonecutters. All right. That was a collection of some of the most useful advice. No, it wasn't. All right. I think that's it. We good? Yeah, we're good.

Sure. I like old guys with stories but i mean most people don't kyle be like if this guy you'd be friends with him there's a vietnam vet at my bar who like loves telling stories and he was like every day with the fucking questions man and i was like you're telling stories i'm asking questions we're good friends but every once in a while i'd be like what's with the fucking questions i love i love listening to old guys tell stories but yeah but there's a difference between story guy and tell me how to live my life guy. I agree.

We all need to not tell everyone else how they should live their lives. That's just a general rule. So yeah, if this guy's got great war stories, sure, if you come for us, we don't just talk about war, but yeah, right. It doesn't sound like that's what we got going on. Wait, so this guy's mad he's showing up

to a dive bar all the time and he's mad people are talking to him? No, it was more of like a joke. He just has one of those hard voices where it sounds like he's upset, but of mad he's shown up to a dive bar all the time and he's mad people are talking to him? No, it was more of like a joke. He just has one of those like hard voices where it sounds like he's upset. But of course he's not upset. Like where he sits next to me, he comes down whenever he buys me a drink, whenever we talk. And then I'll be like saying something. I'll be like, oh, and then what happened with this?

He's like, oh, this guy with the fucking questions. Like, whatever, man. You're telling me about, you know, napalm and shit. I just want to, I'm wondering about something else. That's all. Like thinking about buying a house. You've owned wondering about something else. That's all. Thinking about buying a house. You've owned several houses, whatever.

He's like, oh, he's with the questions. I was like, all right, we're always with the stories. Love you, Alan. See you soon. I watched First Blood this week. Speaking of Vietnam. What'd you think?

Holds up. It's great. It's a great movie. It's kind of a weird thing, though, because you're? Holds up. It's great. It's a great movie. It's kind of a weird thing though, because you're writing up the script. You have to think of like, how do I get the audience to be sympathetic to a dude who's just destroying some town in the Pacific Northwest? So,

you know, Brian Dennehy, he's the overbearing cop, you know, screwed up the beginning. Suri, have you even seen first blood? No,

no. I just said, no idea. Sometimes I hate you. Yeah. It was a bad time for everybody, Rambo. I haven't seen Rambo either. Stallone has this massive PTSD thing

at the very end that like brings it full circle and you like, you feel for him. He gives his speech. It's an incredible, it's incredible Stallone. I don't know if they've done that. Have they done

that on the rewatchables? Because that's it's hard to say anything's Apex Mountain beyond Rocky, but that that dialogue at the end was Sam Troutman. First blood was with the crossbow, right? That exploding crossbow is that a different Rambo?

No, that's Rambo. That's the second one. We're just Rambo. First blood is the first one. That's the second one. We're just Rambo. First Blood is the first one and it's the best one. And it's, I think, available now on Apple for $4.99. So check that one out. Steel, yeah. Because he's kind of

taking out these local cops. So you're like, how would the audience, how are they going to feel about this? And yet you're, you know, you're like, I think I'm on the outlaw side here, which is, you know, I guess it's a lot like Westerns, except it was in 1980 and outside of Portland,

maybe, or Seattle, I don't know. All right, that was Talking Movies. Awesome. Please subscribe to the Ryan Russillo Podcast. Thanks to Steve and Kyle. And we'll be back next week with a good chunk of college football that we thought we were going to do this week.

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