The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Lions-Chiefs Hypothetical, and Ohio State Outclasses Penn State Again With Todd McShay. Plus, the Embiid Confrontation.

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

Russillo opens the show with his NFL Week 9 awards (0:46) before updating his college football rankings and sharing his thoughts on the Joel Embiid situation (16:30). Then, he’s joined by Todd McShay to break down the Lions' rise to the top of the NFL, discuss what’s wrong with Trevor Lawrence, and predict what Tuesday’s College Football Playoff rankings will look like (27:55). Finally, Life Advice with Ceruti and Kyle (62:45). How do I handle my girlfriend texting her ex and then lying about it? Check us out on YouTube for exclusive clips, livestreams, and more at https://www.youtube.com/@RyenRussilloPodcast. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Host: Ryen Russillo Guest: Todd McShay Producers: Steve Ceruti, Kyle Crichton, and Mike Wargon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Detroit marches on the title of best team in the NFL. Perhaps we'll do best win, worst loss, and also a little bonus coverage. After I do the college football top 12, I want to talk about this in bead story from the locker room over this past weekend. We'll do more on that. Chiefs, Lions, Super Bowl today with McShea. football top 12. I want to talk about this Embiid story from the locker room over this past weekend. We'll do more on that. Chiefs, Lions, Super Bowl today with McShea. How many other teams in the NFC should you be afraid of? What the hell is going on with Trevor Lawrence?

A deeper breakdown on Penn State, Ohio State with him and also Carson Beck in George's win against Florida. We've got life advice for you with the gang extended here. Enjoy the pod. Week nine. Best win is Detroit to Green Bay. Without question, Detroit continues their march towards the title of best team in the NFL. Despite Kansas City's perfect record. I think we could talk about the defensive differences between the two teams,

but Detroit's up 20th, 24th three in the third quarter rainy at green Bay. You know, one of the things with Detroit schedule, when you looked at golf and he thought how many times this guy even going to play in any kind of weather? Well, this is the first time they actually played in a non dome situation. I don't know. Maybe if there was a, a roof that was open at one of these

points, but you know, they gave up 150 more yards, but it didn't matter because they were doing all the Dan Campbell stuff here again. They got to pick six, they converted both fourth downs, one of them, a fourth and one at the Green Bay 15 yard line running it right in for a touchdown. Green Bay had 21st downs in this one, but they were able to control most of the game. And with that kind of score, you're like, this isn't even really close. Now, granted Jordan loves dealing with this groin injury that we saw lingering constantly throughout last week. And I think you can see step up or just show itself in certain moments.

Despite love, like looking at the entire game, you're like, all right, that's not so bad. But it's just, you know, no Hutchinson. And then to do this defensively against Green Bay and all these receivers, Hutchinson, who had a 25% pressure rate this season was the highest we've seen in a, from a player in five years. Um, the defensive numbers are still not exactly where you'd want them to be. Even with the investment in the secondary, the opposing yards for play is 5.7. Um, which is the bottom third of the NFL. Last year it was 5.7 for the entire season, but that was actually 29th.

So that ranking is a little bit higher, even if the opponent's yards per play is the same. But they've been better, like a lot better defensively against three of the last four opponents here. And I just think it's one of those wins where you're like, I don't know. I don't know if anybody in the NFC is even close to this team. They got Minnesota. Granted, it was a tough one. You know, they gave us some points there, but the last month, the defense has been getting better just based on what the opponents aren't doing even with this Hutchinson injury.

So look, all the love for them and they deserve all of it because that was dominant in a condition where you were like, is Green Bay going to be more suited for this than Detroit will be with all these fast guys in the offense and all the precision on stuff. It was like, no, actually Detroit's totally in control of this thing. All right, playoff seating. Do you know where your Arizona Cardinals are this Monday morning? You probably don't.

They are a four seed in the NFC, five and four record, first place in the NFC, the only team in the NFC West, well, first place in the NFC West, right? The only team in the NFC West that's undefeated, so they're two and 0, they're the division, and it's the latest in a season they've been in sole possession of first place since November of 21. So it's been three years.

So the comeback field goal against the chargers and the previous two weeks. Arizona had had these games, especially the Miami game, where it was a bit like the Jacksonville Philly game that we had just yesterday, especially the Miami game, where it was a bit like the Jacksonville-Philly game that we had just yesterday, which I'll get into because there's just always this one game on a Sunday where you think, okay, I cannot pay attention to this one anymore. It's fine. And then you're at the end going, is this possible? This is going to happen. This other team has a chance to win this thing. And I think nothing would have been grosser for Philly fans for them to blow that game to Jacksonville, considering the score and the control that

game, however, with Arizona, uh, they're in the game with the charges, really good defense with the LA chargers, but they find a way, kick the game, winning field goal. Okay. Miami they're down 27, 18. It looks like Miami's getting to a back. Good news for everybody. Miami's going to get a win on the board

against kind of a week to week fighting Arizona team where you didn't know really what, like that Bills game that they lost, you probably felt better about them, but they get off to the one and three start where they won three in a row and they were dominant yesterday against the Bears, Sack and Caleb Williams six times.

And I think the best part about this is that Arizona did it by running the football, out gaining the Bears on the ground, two 13 to 69. And Kyler not really being like having to be Superman the entire time, like he has in some of these drives in other games, they were just in control of this one from the jump and then beat up on Caleb the entire time. So they've won three in a row. They're in first place in their division and actually a fourth seed, despite better records of some of the teams behind them.

Some quick stuff on the Chicago part of this. We know that Tyreek Stevenson, number 29, who was, you know, infamously connected with the Hail Mary where he's turned around and getting into it with the crowd while Jane Daniels is actually scrambling around trying to get the pass off. And then he comes over and tips it, tipped up, whatever, Hail Mary, they catch it, lose the whole deal. So then there was two different versions of the story, which I think are probably the same though. And there's always a lesson in this that I think you should remember if you care about this stuff a lot, right? And granted, it's what I do for a living, so it's sort of important. But Jay Glazer had a piece on the pregame show

that I was watching on Fox where it was like, hey, here's the deal, like Tyreke got demoted and then he took himself out of practice and whatever, we'll pay attention. So now that's planting the seed of like, okay, this might be really bad. He played yesterday and to his credit, Tyreke, I don't know if it was real or if it was fake,

but he was doing it. He was letting everybody know as they came off the sideline, like, hey, let's get it. He was being involved. He was doing the things you would wanna see somebody do, whether genuine or completely calculated. Those would be the things you would wanna do. But what happens,

whenever there's kind of the national part of it, and it's a story that maybe the team doesn't want out, then they'll go to somebody that covers the team locally and kind of say that the national thing isn't right, but the story basically sounds like it's the same, and this is probably way too much on this thing at this point, but I just wondered how much it would really matter for a Bears team, um, that record wise probably got some teams at the right time. And to have Caleb look like beginning of the year, Caleb, where he's getting his ass handed to him again, it's probably not where

you want to be halfway through the season. Um, but the damage control of, well, that's not really what happens. Like, well, what happened? This guy, this guy asked out of practice after you demoted him from just starting defensive back position, correct? Well, yes, but no. And it happens in every sport. It happens all the time where. practice after you demoted him from just starting defensive back position, correct? Well, yes, but no.

And it happens in every sport. It happens all the time where they're not even refuting that what the first guy said was wrong. They'll just find somebody else to tell a different version of sometimes the same thing as if that's controlling the message. Anyway, whatever lesson out there for you. Philadelphia has six and two, six seed in the NFC. Currently they lose the tiebreaker to Minnesota, um, because of a strength of

record stuff, like they go deep on that tiebreaker, probably won't matter. So don't worry about it. They've won a four, uh, they've won four in a row. I talked up the Sinse win last week cause I thought it was a really good win. And for them to just be dominant in the second half and tear it up after, look, Philly had three possessions because of how ridiculous since that is opening drive was I believe so only three offensive possessions for the Eagles in that game still able to put up that many points and just feeling better about them getting more

possessions things turning over a little quickly in that second half so at home against Jacksonville better health with the skill guys up 22 zip. This is a walk over the sake, the Saquon Barkley run really is that special. Like you can't watch it enough because the last move for him to kind of line up, like, I think I'm going to jump backwards and hurdle this guy coming behind me. One you that you could actually be positioned that way on a football field and not be scared to death with your back towards defenders, but then to hurdle over somebody in reverse, kind of back to those original things of why Saquon was coming out of the draft, like, okay, this guy's actually a little bit different,

and this is why you can take a running back this high. Well, at least those were the arguments back then. There's also one of my favorite players in this game. I don't know what happened on the second down. So the third and 22 that hurts his Devante Smith is an absurd throw catch whole thing. I thought that ball was out. Cause it looked like he puts so much on that football. I was like, is that, is that going to be back to the end zone? And it happens sometimes on some of those throws and quarterbacks.

You're like, Oh, he put too much on that. And it's just the receivers are so good. Then it's exactly what they're supposed to do. And it's actually the perfect throw. And nobody else is going to get that ball except for the receiver. Except on second down, he overthrew it. And I thought, was he overthrowing that or he just missed that badly where the fan caught it and then spiked it. People were wondering why didn't you just keep the football. I'm pretty sure they're probably going to go up to you and ask for the football back because it wasn't

actually given to you. So those two plays, you're up 22-0. You know, like, all right, Philly's got this, except they don't. I think the third and 22 made it 28, by the way. So Jacksonville's down 28-22 with 2-11 to go. Let's run through these throws. So Jacksonville gets on the board with a touchdown, then there's a fumble touchdown. So now it's 22-16. Then we mentioned that third and 22 shot that makes it 28-16. Jacksonville scores again. But here's what I thought was really alarming through all this. Because Trevor Lawrence still has numbers that will tell

you like this year is better than any other year that he's had. Clearly his first year was terrible. There was enough of a second year jump to feel good about him in combination with the fact of who he was in college and the kind of prospect that people talked about him being coming out. Although I do remember Dill for telling us he was a long loader. All right, write that one down. Long loader. Anyway, All right, like that one long loader. Anyway, Jacksonville down 2823. It's first in 10. After that miss field goal at the Jacksonville 47. Trevor Lawrence throws it to Washington incomplete.

That was a miss. There was a short middle to Ingram. That was a missed two minute warning a short middle to Ingram. That was a miss. Two minute warning. Incomplete pass up the right side, but it was a pass interference on this one. Now I don't know if the PI was the reason why the shot looked like it wasn't even close to anybody, but I don't know if I want to give Lawrence a benefit of the doubt we could maybe on that one. Then deep right, incomplete miss and then short left that converted and got him a first down. So that was like the one throw out of this entire stretch where you go, okay, because these other ones are just behind the guy, not even close to anybody.

Then in first and 10 at the Philly 13, you're down 28-23. It's first down. He throws an interception into the end zone, N'Kobe Dean, my man, that is the kind of throw that you have to make on fourth and 10 in that spot. And maybe not even that, or maybe fourth and goal from the eight, where there's no chance of even like the game is basically going to be over because there's no chance of getting another first down.

The carelessness of what that throw was in combination with how many other throws just on this possession alone, he just was missing everybody. And it kind of made me feel like, well, is that why they were getting touchdowns before? Cause they were like that thing that we've talked about in the past where when quarterbacks are just so carefree because they're losing, they're down three scores here, so it doesn't really matter. So you're going to be a little bit looser with the ball. But then as soon as it's like a real possession again, or the outcome

of every throw matters, does he turn back into the guy that you don't trust? That possession was awful. The last interception also awful. And it did make me think too, like after seeing his second year, John McGoon, okay, this makes more sense based on the guy we watched on Saturdays. But is his 200 million guaranteed the second worst quarterback contract? Or is there still hope for this guy?

I don't know. Um, best wins, Detroit worst loss. I don't think any, but anything's going to top the Texans losing to the jets. I think that's the worst loss of anything we saw. Nothing really trumped that yesterday. If Philly had blown that game, that could have been it. Dallas is bad again. 27-13, late touchdown against Atlanta 27-21,

makes it seem better. Apparently Dak, reading lips on the sideline, we often suck. I thought Tua played really well yesterday, so no turnovers from Tua in back-to-back games, even though he had three fumbles that he did not lose against Arizona. Zero lost fumbles in these two games. And then a 14-play touchdown drive for 97 yards after the Allen interception off the Key and Coleman tip,

which was just an amazing play by Jalen Ramsey. But Miami goes up 10-3 and you're wondering if they're finally going to get Buffalo because T 2 has only got them one other time while beating up on the other two teams in New England in the Jetson division. But nope, can't beat Buffalo. Tyreek Hill has had one touchdown since week one and Jaylen Waller got his first TD of the season. Look at those guys' numbers. I mean, even with 2 coming back, it's nice to see things cranked up. I guess it's against New England. Those guys had a few more targets there. Um, the saints have fired Dennis Allen. Quite a departure from the Clint Kubiak love two weeks into the season where they were scoring a million points.

No one could stop them. Perfect marriage of OC and quarterback. Everybody's on the same page. And then you lose seven in a row and granted car got hurt and it was disrupted with the Rattler deal. And then you lose seven in a row and granted Carr got hurt and it was disrupted with the Rattler deal. And then you were onto the other kid from Fresno, I think. Alan 18 and 25 with the Saints.

I got to tell you this, I was happy for Bryce Young. I was just happy to see Bryce Young get a win yesterday and looked like he was having fun playing football again for the first time I think I've seen since he was at Alabama. again for the first time I think I've seen since he was out of Alabama. Get ready to tackle the NFL action with FanDuel, America's number one sports book, because right now new customers can bet $5 and get 150 in bonus bets if you win. The FanDuel Sportsbook app gives you everything you need to place live

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Uh, this is, I don't know how it's going to look with the committee here because there's this SCC bunching at the end that'll all probably take care of itself. Um, that I, as of right now, want to avoid. But I just don't know how you consistently can state a one rule without breaking that rule to get 12 teams into this. I have Oregon one like everybody else, although the coaches pulled,

there's one coach that did not vote Oregon number one as they easily handled Michigan. Georgia's two in both polls. I have Georgia two as well. Carson Beck is a mess though. I mean, there's a mess again in that Florida game. He threw three more picks. It was 20-20.

Florida is definitely a little bit better now this year than they were at the beginning of the year, maybe the last time you saw them, Miami was handing it to them. So they're better than they were to start the year, but 2020 is probably not what you're expecting out of Georgia. Some people still think they're the best team in the entire country. Ohio state, stop me if you've heard this before, gets it done against Penn State again, 2013. And they needed a run clock, a ton of clock. I think they got it back with like five minutes left and they got four first downs.

And you could tell that drive, them being able to run the football, then Will Howard converting that last one, knowing they're going to run out the clock, victory formation. Those guys were fired up about that win, which also makes me think that Ohio State either was that worried about their own offensive line issues. I think also in combination with how much they respected Penn State as an opponent. The AP and coaches poll have Miami at four. I'm going to have Texas at four. I'd argue that Michigan, Oklahoma, Vandy, maybe not Michigan. This is crazy.

Is Oklahoma or Vandy better than any single win that Miami has this year? Miami is going to go the entire season not playing anybody ranked. By the way, Duke, how weird was that game? They were down 28-17 to Duke and then outscored them 36-3 the rest of the way. They're going to go 12-0. They've got Georgia Tech, Wake and Syracuse to finish this up. They will be a top four seed. I would imagine depending on what happens. I obviously was holding out hope for Clemson still, and they get

absolutely smashed by Louisville. They made it look closer at the end of this game with a couple of scores. But yeah, this one was this was 33 14 there before a late touchdown. So the ACC had kind of a weird wake up call weekend, especially when you include the pit SMU result where Pittsburgh got trounced in this one as well. Um, and it was ugly. I mean, it was 31 to three at halftime SMU. So we'll have SMU ranked there. So yeah, I flipped Texas and Miami, just based on who they've beaten.

But Miami is going to be in this thing and it looks even better. They're going to get through the, the, the ACC title game, well it's happening around them. All right. so Penn State, I put them at six. Look, I don't really wanna beat up on Penn State today because I don't really know that that's, I know they never beat them. We've already talked about the history here. They just rarely get them.

Franklin doesn't have a great record against these good teams. I'll admit to, I think Fox goes overboard with the pro Big Ten stuff because they think they're counteracting the CSP and SEC stuff. And I think that, I don't know, I think it's kind of a waste of time. And like, when they put the graphic up a couple weeks ago, where it was

like, Penn State would have six playoff appearances, three more than any other team, if it were 12 teams throughout all this. And it's like, well, that doesn't mean anything. It just means that they don't, they they beat up on all the people that they play on their schedule. But I actually think Penn State's better this year. I think the, the USC win was a tough win despite what USC's record is. Maybe you're dismissive of it. Up 10, nothing in this one. You think you have them. I know that it ends up being this deal where you're pissed because it's, you think like, Oh, it should have been a day game. It should have been a night game and all these other, whatever they were in it.

It wasn't like they were embarrassed, but yeah, it's a little too repetitive. And now Penn state probably is still in the playoff if they stay clean against Washington, Purdue, Minnesota and Maryland. So actually they're going to get into the playoff in the version that I was always so upset about. Um, number seven, Indiana. So Indiana is actually in first with Oregon six and O both in the conference nine and O overall trounce, Michigan state, who's a four and five

football team, and we'll see what happens at Ohio state, the crazy thing will be. If the loser's definitely in right. Cause Indiana would be 11-1, and then that would mean we'd have an Oregon Ohio State rematch, right? Like, is that better for Indiana? Well, I don't know. If they get Ohio State and they're 12-0 going into it,

then they're probably in anyway. The Indiana thing has like really changed up a lot of the stuff where it's going gonna be a boost. It's like, it's gonna be an extra boost for Ohio State, but Ohio State's already gonna be in now anyway, cause they're only lost the number one team in the country. So we'll see, we'll see. BYU eight, I have Tennessee nine.

I kind of lost interest in Tennessee there a little bit. Slow game going against Kentucky, but they pulled it out, that's fine. Notre Dame 10. I'm gonna go SMU 11 after crushing Pittsburgh. SMU is 13 in the AP and 15 in the coaches' poll so the voter's not loving them as much. 12s, here are your options.

The AP went with Bama 11, Boise 12. The coaches have Bama 11. They have Ole Miss 12, where the AP is not as into Ole Miss despite just an ass-kicking against Arkansas on Saturday. So there's this collection of SEC teams here, whether it's Bama, LSU, A&M dropping five spots. Thanks, Rossello for the Alliance pick, South Carolina, then Ole Miss. So you've got six spots here and it's four SEC teams, but they all kind of like have big games again here too,

as well, like Bama's gonna play LSU here, A&M's got Texas, Ole Miss still has Georgia. That one's at home. So there's a chance certainly to get back into this stuff, but they're also chance to kind of eliminate each other here as well. And Tennessee, I think the rest of the way, yep. See they have Georgia also.

So I'm going to go with, I don't really want to put Bama there like everybody else did. So why don't we just go Boise even though today, I don't know, I mean, Bama's not like this world killer right now. So just to sit here and say automatically that I know Bama is better than Boise State.

They probably are, but I'm fine with Boise after putting together a nice little run here, even though, yep, they haven't beaten anybody right. Great, awesome. Breaking my own rules again. All right, speaking of breaking rules, I wanna talk a little NBA off of the big news from the weekend that had nothing to do with any of the games and that was Joel Embiid getting into it with a reporter. So the backstory here,

and I only understand this as an outsider because I don't know Marcus Hayes, Philadelphia Inquirer columnist. I guess he's been there forever. He wrote this story about Embiid. As you know, if you listen to me talk about Embiid, I'm getting over it in general despite liking him. I've just been more over it. I talked about it in the Over Under pod. It became a breakout video. Then it makes it look like I hate Embiid, but I'm just tired of just all the bullshit

around it. And then when somebody's like, hey, did you read that column is to kind of lit them up? I was like, Oh, I wonder if I'll agree with a lot of the stuff. Well, um, when I read the column, I, I actually couldn't believe it because. Hayes was trying to make a point and it was such an impossible turn where he said, quote, Joel Embiid consistently points to the birth of his son Arthur as the major inflection point in his career. He often says that he wants to be a great, he wants to be great to leave a

legacy for the boy named after his little brother who died in an automobile accident when Embiid was in his first year as a 76er. All right. Next paragraph. Well, in order to be great at your job, you first have to show up for work. And Embiid has been great at just the opposite. Now in his 11th season, he consistently has been in poor condition.

I gotta tell you, yes, I would not argue for and Bede's conditioning. I would also agree that, yeah, it's kind of ridiculous, like how often he's hurt and the other times he's missing games. I would say as an editor to this piece, I'd be like, you know what, maybe we put a little buffer in there

in between the death of his brother and then write into dumping on him for not playing enough games. Like, is there any way you can get from that point to the next point with a few other points in between? Or maybe just don't make that point because that seems a little unfair. And when I read it, I kind of couldn't fucking believe it.

I was like, that's so I don't know. Trust me. I'm not saying this to be dismissive of anybody that's a writer. It's just that I'm not reading every local story is certainly not as much as I used to when it comes to these teams. But I also know that like when I was in Boston, there was always like a columnist or two that would decide to just kind of be that guy, right? You just kind of be that guy and get reaction and piss people off. And some people actually make like a real living out of it by being relevant by pissing

everybody off all the time. I have no idea if that's what this guy's deal is, but I thought it was crossing a line. Then on Saturday night, you're watching some of the late college football and you see a tweet from another six years reporter saying that Embiids assaulted a reporter in the locker room. Um, I always feel like the word assault does more work. Like it just feels like it's, Oh my God, this must be really bad. Um, and then I don't know what happened because there was all sorts of stuff happening on X where it was somebody who's yelling, don't report this. Apparently there wasn't a video when it was somebody who's yelling, don't report this.

Apparently there wasn't a video when it feels like there's always a video, um, that, that it was just a shove. And, you know, I, you can't, it's, it's hard to sit here and say like, Hey, I'm totally okay with it, but I'm just on a bead side with this one. I thought this piece crossed the line and And you're not supposed to put your hands on anybody and that kind of stuff. And Embiid's an enormous human being, so he's gonna have the physical advantage of literally anybody he's going up against here.

But I guess what I would say is instead of saying like, cool, it's awesome he shoved this reporter, I also don't think assault should have been thrown around as freely as it was. You can get into the semantics of it. I think normal people would be like, there's a difference between shoving somebody in the shoulder if that's the case and then going to the airport. I also don't think assault should have been thrown around as freely as it was. You can get into the semantics of it. I think normal people would be like, there's a difference between shoving somebody in the

shoulder if that's just what happened and then just jacking somebody in the head. So basically my point would be even where I'm at, where I'm positioned right now with Embiid, I had no issue with this whatsoever because I thought this article crossed the line and was just trying to be, like it was trying to be brutal on purpose. I think those two paragraphs, it was like, let me see how nasty I can make this. And I guess they actually changed. They edited the original article and changed that part of it or just took it out entirely after people were so pissed about it. So yeah, cool. You got a reaction. and change that part of it, or just took it out entirely after people were so pissed about it. So yeah, cool.

You get a reaction and then you also get one out of the player and we'll see what happens. Good to have Todd McShay with us Mondays. As always, the McShay show, Saturdays, Tuesdays, Thursdays. I knew you guys did a breakdown of Georgia, Florida. Also some Ohio State Penn State stuff. So there's a couple things that I want to do from that, but let's start with the NFL. Detroit feels like, well, I don't know if I can say they're the most complete team, but they feel like they're marching towards best team in the NFL despite the fact that Kansas City's undefeated,

but maybe we're just holding Kansas City to its own standard because Kansas City is a much better defense to this point of the season than Detroit is. But when you watch the Lions play dominant on the road in Green Bay conditions and they look like the more comfortable team through it all, I know Love's dealing with the groin injury, but just takeaways on like, if it were right now, if Detroit were playing Kansas City in the Super Bowl, who would you pick? Well, let's start with Detroit, right? I guess the big question, Mark, was how was Detroit going to play outside in these conditions? They seemed like the outside team. They seemed like they were not a dome football team.

They handled the conditions better. And yes, part of it was Jordan Love just not being himself and dealing with the groin injury and making some, I mean, I don't want to call them uncharacteristic mistakes because he still makes some mistakes where you're like, oh man, come on. But it just felt like Detroit, like the conditions were not an issue for the Lions.

And they jumped them early and were able to kind of then lean into playing with a lead and it just, it looked, it looked the way you would expect a team that is used to playing outside. Look. And that was the big question mark, right? I think this, and then they've got another game. What is it at Chicago late in the season? But other than that, there's like a lot of warm weather dome games. They're protected. The biggest thing for me is how complete this team looks. Defensively, they lost Hutchinson,

and you can't make up for that. But they've been able to make up for that so far. And they're doing it by they're blitzing more. And they have, when you blitz, the obvious issue that comes with blitzing and being more aggressive is that you leave yourself vulnerable in the back end. They've handled it extremely well. I love their safety tandem. Joseph and Branch.

And Branch gets kicked out of that game and Joseph steps up and has the huge pick. I think that's two weeks in a row with an interception. I've always loved Joseph. So I just, I think the fact that they're making plays on the back end, the fact that they're dialing up pressure at the right time, are they as good as Kansas City defensively? No, but they're damn good. And offensively, I don't think there's any question the more efficient offensive team and that's Detroit and it's kind of weird to say with Patrick Mahomes, but it's been a couple of years now with struggling in the regular season on offense, weapons, whether it's injuries or losing guys in the off season, they just don't look as dynamic and explosive as they

have and as they had been in years past. So I don't know about you, man, but like, it's so impossible to sit there and be like, yeah, I would feel great about Detroit against Kansas City in the Superbowl setting because you got my homes and you got that defense. But right now the better team in my mind, when I'm watching games on Sunday, the better team has been Detroit. I mean, offensively, like St. Brown, what he's doing, just so consistent and so dynamic. Laporta is a stud at tight end. We knew that from his rookie year and continues to be a huge factor.

Jamison Williams isn't even in, he'll be back at some point. And when he comes back, he adds another element. But this Khalid Raymond, the Holy Cross kid has stepped up the last two weeks in his absence. So you got the two headed monster running back. Jameer Gibbs has been everything they had hoped for and more as a first round pick when everyone was just bashing Brad Holmes. We talked about it right after the draft. Like, yeah, you can yell at them all you want. But they got huge difference makers with their draft picks. And just the way that they were able to load up on picks for a two-year span and how productive those players

have been from the early rounds. Like, this is an organization that has built it the right way and the product on the field has been phenomenal. And Jared Goff, like, how about that stat? Did you see that stat? And Jared Goff, like how about that stat? Did you see that stat? The Lions have in the last six games since week three,

I guess, have 26 touchdowns and Jared Goff has 22 incompletions. Like that's outrageous, man. Yeah, there's all these stats where, you know, in the past I would wonder, okay, what's your completion rate? And then that doesn't seem to matter as much All these stats where, you know, in the past I would wonder, okay, what's your completion rate? And then that doesn't seem to matter as much because the design has some of the throws in the offense, but golf is 75% right now.

It's number one in the NFL. Yards per attempt. I used to think that was super important. Then I started thinking like, well, can it be a little misleading here? And golf is number two in the NFL, only behind Lamar Jackson. And that's always the one with Mahomes where you just can't believe how much that number keeps going down and down and down because he's changed the way he's played quarterback based on personnel and some of that other stuff.

Look, the games tomorrow, the games tomorrow, we're here. We're prepping the show and, and it's a neutral site. They have to line up and play tomorrow. Who are you taking? I'm gonna pick Kansas City. Yeah, cause you always do, cause my home's in your always right, so.

Yeah, but the fact I'm even thinking about it is like as much credit as I could give to another team. Cause I'm with you, like as you said here, it feels like Detroit's the best team in the NFL, and yet Kansas is undefeated, we'll see what happens tonight, the whole thing. I think that itself is like a compliment. I really do.

I don't know that you have to say I'd pick Detroit, you know, is Detroit or the field? Well, of course you would take the field, but the fact that it could even be a topic, I think is a credit to where they're at. And who they become last years. Who in the NFC scares you the most? There's competition.

Well, I'd like to see Green Bay with a healthy Jordan Love. So I think that's an issue. Does Washington scare you? Minnesota, Philly? I'm not saying they're all good teams. I'm just curious. I don't know. I still think a healthy 49ers team is scarier to me than Washington, Philly or Minnesota. I just have a hard time quitting the 49ers. Then maybe that's ridiculous because they're not in the 11 seed. Who would you pick? I mean, would you rather play Arizona or San Francisco? If you Detroit. Right now? Yeah. Like today maybe San Francisco but where they're going to be at the end of the season I would bet everything on

San Francisco being better than Arizona. What about Washington? It's hard right? Washington. It's hard, right? Washington is good, man. They're good. You know, Jaden Daniels has come back to earth a little bit, but not, you know, but like still dynamic, but they're a good football team. But I, if I like crystal balling it, I think Sam Fran has a better chance. There's a good chance to be better at the end of the year Minnesota scares me. I think they're a damn good football team. I really do. I think they're there to like like this is real Well, I'm glad you said that cuz I'll admit that there was part of me watching the Colts game last night where They're down seven zip at half. I'm like, is this Minnesota story over based on the standard that we'd have for them?

You know, the defense is rolling. Darnold's figured it out. They have the best wide receiver, you know, like they get Hawkinson back. Yep. And yet they're down seven zip. They've lost two games in a row. God, that was a brutal first half. Right.

And I was watching it going, okay, the Lions won. No problem. Cause we've spent so much time already gushing about the Lions. The Rams won is weird cause the Rams have been like three different teams this year, but that didn't seem like it was some awful loss. Just like there are certain weeks where if you get Stafford on the wrong week, like he might just beat you

cause he's been so good. But then when they're down seven, nothing. And I'm kind of doing some of my college football notes and everything I'm sitting in my kitchen Island. And I'm like, maybe this Minnesota thing is just kind of over. You don college football notes and everything. I'm sitting in my kitchen island and I'm like, maybe this Minnesota thing is just kind of over. You don't think so though? No, no, I don't. I don't. I mean, you remember they lost to

Detroit by two points. Yeah. Oh, something to think about. Okay. I think we can get out of its own way. But go ahead. I really liked Philly the last month or so. Yeah, I do too. But I, I just, do you trust them in, in a playoff environment against one of these scenes? That's where I, I just hear, I don't have a whole lot of trust. Here's what I would say though, like of all these teams that were constantly trying to figure out because it changes because of injuries and sometimes like interior linemen that we're not aware of, like, you know, they're on their third defensive tackle, you know, that

kind of stuff. You're like, Oh, okay. Now I see why they're when you're as talented as they are, then they are like even the worst version of Hertz can't be like the best version of him was considered the best quarterback in the NFC going into just last year, the start of 23 after the Superbowl appearance in 22.

So I would rather you have a bunch of dudes that I can still name that I still think are good. But maybe that's part of what's been misleading about the Eagles. Like I just think that that team is more talented than. Like I just think that that team is more talented than, than, um, than Washington is. Although Washington's front is, is really nasty right now. Yeah. I like Philly. The talent is, is absolutely like undeniable. Okay.

I just wonder if they can get out of their own way when we get late in the season, playoffs, critical decisions, coaches, putting team organizations in the right spot, will they make the right decisions to allow all that talent to come to the top? That's where my concern is. All right. Can we talk about Trevor Lawrence? Yeah.

All right. So I spent a good chunk going through that last possession where he throws a pick on first down, that's like a fourth down throw. All right. You want to throw that on fourth down fine, but like they still have plenty of time left, they've moved the football. There's a chance you're going to pull this out. And I think he missed six of seven throws other than the first down.

There's one that's a PI. You could argue that that's why I think he might've missed the throw anyway, even with the PI. So maybe you can say two were fine. What, what is he? What, how did this happen? Cause at least we know there's like real college stuff that was pretty good. And it felt like after his rough rookie year that so many really good quarterbacks have, there was a significant jump into a second year.

Then you have Peterson. It's just, there's even some numbers that tell you he's actually like better than you would think, which is kind of crazy. Some of the QBR stuff, but I think most of us watch it every week going, what, what is this guy? Like what, what happened? You have to wonder is I'm starting to get worried. Let's put it this way. I'm starting to get worried that this is Trevor Lawrence, right?

That his rookie year was just throw out the tape. His second year was just throw out the tape. worried. Let's put it this way. I'm starting to get worried that this is Trevor Lawrence, right? That his rookie year was just throw out the tape. His second year was getting in a system, kind of seeing like the league, seeing Trevor Lawrence in a system that's functional and taking time to catch up with it. Guys that I talked to in the league that have a better understanding, like defensive guys that understand. I get the strong sense that they feel like Doug Peterson's offense has peaked in terms of what they can do, what they can create. I don't think it's helping. I'm not saying it's a bad system or they can't be successful, but I do think there's some schematic things that are not necessarily putting Trevor Lawrence in the best position to win. But at the end

of the day, like we saw really good signs from him that second year. Last year we saw a quarterback that was battling injuries and had didn't feel like himself and was kind of always behind the eight ball. And I was expecting this year to be a bounce back to be quite honest. And I don't know that there's lingering injury effects. I think there's lingering mental effects. Here's what I see. Because I've studied this a lot because it's frustrating when you have that high of a grade on a quarterback and for him to play this inconsistently and poorly like he has for this long of a period of time, you got to kind of check yourself, right?

And so I see a quarterback that all of a sudden is like not inconsistent, but really bad versus the Blitz. And that's part scheme. It's part plan. You know what I mean? Like not having the right plan and the right ways to navigate through that. But it's also, there's something in his brain that's not clicking and functioning the way it needs to. Where it's causing enough disruption for him,

where he doesn't trust where he's going with the ball. He doesn't trust what he's seeing. He doesn't have a confidence level in what his plan is to beat the Blitz. And that's not something you expect to see with an NFL quarterback with the experience that he now has, right? And so that's been frustrating to watch. Bigger picture. I just, I don't see a quarterback who's comfortable with his footwork, who's consistent with his footwork, who's, you know, it's like, it's more stuff that we talk about in college prospects than we do with NFL guys. How many times do you and I have a conversation about a four or five year vet in the NFL at the quarterback position, like, oh, his footwork's a mess. It just doesn't happen a lot.

You know what I mean? Like Josh Allen, that Josh Allen, we had that conversation coming out of Wyoming. Josh Allen, we had that conversation as a rookie. But now your full-time job with the support that you have with quarterback coaches, with the off seasons you have, like it gets to a point, right Ryan? Like it truly gets to a point, I guess like a shooter in the NBA.

It gets to a point where your footwork and your shot are the same. Like and now it's not about tweaking it and improving it or like, it's about just drilling it over and over. So it's muscle memory and it's like, that's who I am. I don't know the NBA, like I don't study the NBA like you do. But I would find it hard to believe there are a lot of guys that five years into their career, you're like,

well, if he could just get his footwork and his base right, and, you know, or is changing his shot. Like, I don't hear that a lot in NBA coverage. And I know you don't have that a lot with NFL quarterbacks. So the why is, the why behind it all is hard to pinpoint because I'm not in that building every day and I don't know what's going on. And I'm not an NFL defensive coordinator

who can sit and walk through like the minutiae, but I do, but I am an evaluator and I see the tape and I see a quarterback that is dealing with footwork issues, fast brain, rushed process, lack of confidence in his plan and where his eyes should be. And that shows up on tape and that shouldn't occur at this point in his career. Let's talk a little college. I left, you didn't like that answer or just that was, it was so authoritative? Yeah, it was so good. Why would I even mess with it? I have nothing to add to it. But I do want to get some college ball in just because I think there's, there's a few games to the least we're touching on.

And the headline is Ohio state beats Penn state. Um, you know, if, if somebody just wants to rail on Penn state there, I get it. Um, my bigger issue is just now what happens where you're just going to be eligible to play for a national championship, perhaps without one significant win, but that's, it's almost like a, it's almost like a, it's almost like a, it's almost like a, it's almost like My bigger issue is just now what happens where you're just going to be eligible to play for a national championship perhaps without one significant win, but that's its own issue with the expansion of the playoffs. Congrats. But Penn State's in the game. They should feel like there's some massive gap. It starts off great and they don't convert the fourth down,

which was the move at the time. But I didn't leave that thinking like Penn State should be embarrassed. The problem is that it's just so repetitive for Franklin and this group against the best teams, that this is what happens whenever you play them, despite clearly feeling like you had a real chance, especially at the start of this game. So I didn't leave being like, oh, Penn State, these frauds,

because that'd be totally unfair. It's just more along the line. Oh, you do? Okay, go for it. I'm not saying frauds, but I long the line. Oh, you do. Okay, go for it. I'm not saying frauds, but but I left being like, shit, like, if if Will Howard doesn't make that one one terrible decision and throw for the pick six, if Will Howard, and I love what Will Howard did in the second half, and the running and all the little things that he did. But if Will Howard doesn't't, you know, the fumble in the end zone and that, like, there

are like two or three plays where if Ohio State made them or didn't make a mistake, I felt like it was lopsided. I felt Ohio State was faster. I felt Ohio State, honest to God, this was like a crowning jewel coaching moment for Chip Kelly who doesn't need one. But my God, did they out scheme Penn State in this game offensively. Like you got a lifelong, not just like a season, a lifelong left guard, you kick out to left tackle. You got a center who started last year but hasn't played much this year and has never

played guard starting at left guard. And you're able to run the ball for like 149 with your two running backs. And you're able to out scheme Penn State the way they did. Like how about the like Tate, the wide receiver for Ohio State opened that that could have been a touchdown if Will Howard was on. So those three plays, Will Howard, bad pick six early in the game, Will Howard with the fumble into the end zone. And then Will Howard missing a wide open receiver and throwing Tate like three yards out of

bounds instead of leading them to a touchdown. That changes the whole game, bud. Ohio State was significantly better coached. They significantly out-schemed Penn State defensively. They were faster on both sides of the ball, more athletic. I don't know, I just saw a huge gap. And it wasn't Ohio State's best game. They played a great game.

You know, when it was all said and done, they, defensively, that's the best game I've seen this year. Kind of what we've been waiting for all year long. Like, Egubinosa, like, at the cornerback. Denzel Burke played well. Pass Rush, they mixed it up. Like, they played really good on all three levels on the defensive side for Ohio State. But, I don't know, I just, I walked away from it being like, yeah, the score was close, one score, all that. But a few different plays in Ohio State. When's this one by like 21? Um, yeah, I guess I can't really push back on that.

You're right. Um, it's just that I think it's one of those games where towards the end of it, they still had a chance, like the fact that they still had a chance against the team historically that there's a lot of these games where I've left going, okay, there's a gap, there's a gap. And maybe you still feel that, um, because we're not used to Ohio State's defense showing up like this. I completely agree as far as like day and Kelly afterwards, the way they were

celebrating on the field, like how much this meant to them knowing how they had to put this thing together and then Howard kind of running away with it. I think that last drive made him feel like a little bit more physical than they have throughout a lot of times this season. That's why they were so fired up to convert all those first downs. Franklin has now gone 95 and 40 at Penn State. He's 1633 into Big 10 and we could go through a bunch of that stuff and say, okay, well who you're playing.

Is it a Franklin problem in your opinion? Oh, I always ask myself this question, who are they going to get to that's going to make them better? I am not a James Franklin guy. And I'm not here to explain all the reasons why. I think they're capped out with James Franklin. But I also like, I'm a realist. I'm not like, I'm not the lunatic fringe is Herb Street always talk about. I'm not the 10, 15% that like screens the loudest. I try to be very rational about this and I'm like, all right, like who's going to come in and make this better? He obviously recruits extremely well. They obviously run a really good organization, if you will, you know,

they're there. They win almost every game they should win. And they, and they should win almost every game they play because they are getting talent there. But it, it very like if it wasn't, if it wasn't Saturday, then when you know what what I mean? Like Ohio State comes in with a terrible left tackle situation, terrible left side of their offensive line situation. They come in with a defense that wasn't playing, you know, up to the level that you expected. You're playing at home.

You got your quarterback is back. And by the way, it wasn't like, well, if Allard was just a hundred percent, like he had three runs and climbed the pocket that first drive, like it was not a lack of mobility at quarterback. In fact, when they brought in our guy, Pribula, that kind of set back that first drive, right? So I didn't get a sense that it was it was circumstance or injury or any anything like that.

It was just Ohio State was a better football team more talented better coached and so if the goal and obviously the goal is to take that next step as a program you better have someone who can come in and do all the things that Franklin's been able to do but it then is able to take that next step. And I don't, I don't know who that guy is. Georgia beats Florida. They were losing at halftime down 13 six. Game was 20, 20. And then it was 34 20 in a very short amount of time. But these Carson Beck interceptions, Todd, are brutal.

They're not, they're not like, Oh, you know, something good. It's just tip ball. You're not, you're not like, Oh, you know, something good. It's just, you're not, you're not seeing the extra, you're not seeing the extra guy. Like there's another dude over there near the throw and you know, they can be number two in the country here and maybe they still win the whole thing, but God, he can't imagine they're going to escape the SEC title game in the playoffs. If he keeps playing like this and Florida's, you know, look, Florida's down lag way.

He gets knocked out. They're bringing in another freshman quarterback and nobody's heard of. From Yale. Florida's been more competitive here that I think then, then maybe people realize. So even though their record and the spread and all that kind of stuff, you're like, Oh, Georgia should just kill this team. Um, the Beck part of it for who Georgia is supposed to be the rest of the way is probably the headline for me, even though they got the win. Yeah, it's one of the headlines in college football. But you enter the year with an

experienced quarterback where everyone's talking about he very well could be the first quarterback taken in the 2025 NFL draft. You see some mistakes early on, you think, well, they're going to correct this. And you keep watching on Saturdays and you keep seeing the same mistakes. Just can't happen, man. And there's no turning away from it. There's no benching him and bringing somebody else in. He's your guy and you've got to ride with it. But like three more interceptions, 11 interceptions on the season, four multiple interception games. You can excuse away an interception or a bad decision here and there, but at this point, it's beyond a pattern.

It's beyond a trend. And that's frightening because Georgia's good enough up front offensively. Georgia's good enough defensively. Georgia does not have elite weapons at wide receiver, but they've got enough talent. You know, that first interception, it's like, I made the analogy, like when you're going to take a left onto like a busy road or like a two lane highway and you're trying to get on, like you look left and there's no car coming, you look right, there's no car coming. But then you always kind of peek back left as you're starting to make the turn left under the busy road.

It's like he looked left, he looked right, but he didn't do that last peek back to see the oncoming 90 mile an hour car that's racing out of nowhere. That's what happened. He got caught. The six foot two cornerback number 28 makes the interception. That's on Carson Beck. The second interception, I swear to you, could have been picked off by at least two people, two defenders, maybe the third who was in trail coverage.

Terrible decision. There are times where it's like, is he just careless? There are other times where I'm like, is he just locked on too much where he's predetermined? And when you start combining all those thoughts that you have when you're studying his tape, what's the bottom line? The bottom line is he's just not seeing the whole field What's the bottom line? The bottom line is he's just not seeing the whole field and he's not making sound decisions with the ball. And so now if I'm the offensive coordinator, if I'm Kirby Smart, like we now have to plan

for this. We have to work, this is a work around situation. We cannot trust our quarterback to, and put him in positions where he's allowed to make these mistakes. Because the first five or six, it's on him. The next four or five, like we should be working to try to correct it. You get to 11 interceptions in a season at this point, we would just turn the calendar over to November. And now it's on the coaching staff moving forward.

They have to game plan around this because it's not gonna change. It just, it doesn't appear like it's going to change. And that's a scary place to be when you come into the season and one of the strengths of your entire team is supposed to be your quarterback. Yeah, it was great to see Nate Frazier get the bulk of the carries.

Cause I just, I feel like there's been times this year with him, the freshman running back, where I was like, I'm surprised they're not giving him a little bit more. And I get it, because Trevor Etienne's the other guy getting the carries, and he's been kind of in and out going back to the beginning of the year. They're different when he's in though, I'll say that. When Etienne is in.

Oh, you like Etienne better. I do, but I see the talent of Frazier, but I think if you have both of them healthy, that's when you're rolling. And that is my guess will be a big part of the plan to kind of overcome what's happening at quarterback. Did you have anything else on, like who would you pick Miami against,

national championship, Oregon or Miami against national championship? Oregon or Miami? To win? Yeah. Oregon. Georgia. Georgia because of the defense, but I'd be less competent. Miami, Ohio State.

Ohio State. Miami, Texas. Texas. Miami, Penn State. Miami. Okay, so it took us getting to the sixth team in the country before we found a win there. Tennessee at six and the coaches post still sort of shocks me. Because why do you even read that? Well, there's seven in the AP as well. I mean, look, I'm just in anticipation of all the results that we're getting tomorrow. Here's what I think we're going to see.

Okay. It's tomorrow night. We know Oregon is going to be one. Ohio State, Georgia will be two, three. I think Miami will be at four. I think you'd make an argument for BYU at five, but I think it will be at four. I think you could make an argument for BYU at five, but I think it'll probably be Texas. Then you get down to, so that would be five, six for me,

Texas, BYU, you can put them however you want. I think it'll be Texas. Then you get to seven, I think it'll be Penn State. I think that's as far as they'll drop. I don't necessarily agree with it. But yeah, I think that's be Penn State. I think that's as far as they'll drop. I don't necessarily agree with it. I, but yeah, I think that's a comfortable spot. Penn State at seven. I would go Tennessee at eight. So Tennessee eight. Then to me, it gets interesting, right? Now it's like really weird, but you seem to be definitive on Tennessee better than Indiana. Yeah. Yeah, I do. Cause I have eyes and I've watched football

for a long time. And I love it, like you can't take away anything that Signetti's done, but like, what was I reading? I don't think they, have they beaten anyone as a, I don't know, something weird, like Nebraska's the only team with a winning record currently that they've beaten in Nebraska's five and four? Something like that. So the strength of schedule is still on some of the football ranking stuff.

Like, you know, somebody can hear this from Bloomington and go, no, that's not accurate. And it's like, well, actually you can look at their strength of schedule is still so far behind everybody else's like way behind. I mean even BYU is like 61. Indiana I have it at 103 this morning. Yeah. It's going to be interesting cause now you're w let's just, let's say Tennessee's a date, right? Yeah. I think Notre Dame could very well be nine ahead of Boise state. Boise state to me, like that lost to Oregon, that was only three points, right?

Was it three? I think it was only three. That was close. And so now all of a sudden like that. Yeah. 37, 34. Yeah, man. Like that's, that's impressive. That's a great loss.

So I think Notre Dame, Boise, then I would have Indiana like 11. And then the 12th spot. and it doesn't matter now, we get a lot of football to play, but if we were to do this, I think I would throw in Alabama at that spot, but not feel, not have tremendous confidence in it. But that's how I think it's going to roll. Something like that. And they certainly got- What about SMU?

I would have them on the outside looking in, but they were not going to have. Yeah. I would have them outside looking in. I guess I just don't want to default to Bama again. I was just supposed to put them 12 here and that's what they did in the polls, which I also kind of understand. But it's like, are you picking Bama? Say, oh, well, Bama would still beat Indiana.

Bama would still beat all these teams. It's like, okay, maybe they would. I know they'd be favored in some of this stuff, but you picking Bama? Say, Oh, well, you know, Bama would still be at Indiana. Bama would still be at all these teams. It's like, okay, maybe they would. I know they'd be favored in some of this stuff, but what are we doing? Are we picking this year's Bama? Were we picking the last 10 years of Bama? And that's likely what's happening here with the voters again. And we'll see if the committee who. I'm thinking of Bama team that, that worked over Georgia and has talent and has

a quarterback that when he's and has talent and has a quarterback that when he's right is, is a freak. Uh, I can't, I can't push back on that a ton. I can't, but I think I went Boise just because of, just because I don't have anything else to add to it and in the AP it's flipped it'sama 11, Boise 12. And who knows? This could be a template that has nothing to do with the committee. I think Boise is higher. I can see Boise in the top 10 when the rankings come out. All right. Well, that'll be tomorrow. I'm excited. That's Todd McShay. Again, check

out the McShay show, ring or feed wherever you get your podcasts. Saturday Night Live. Recap everything is an awesome pod. People already love it. Tuesdays and Thursdays. What else you get going on this week anything? Saturday night live. It's our own version Saturday night live we're uh We are going live finally on that show. I'm excited about it live on YouTube and Spotify. I believe so, um, oh nice Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna try it out. Try not to screw it up. Oh, oh you have an open invitation I'm sure you'll come on like one more time where it's beneficial to you and it's like, you know

Like the playoff or some some big night, but uh But open invitation to racelo, it'll probably just be mention. I And we're excited for it. I mean just think about lsu. Bama coming up like i'd love to be in batarouche But you're coming off that game Herbie Fowler sign off, like the second the game's over, we jump in. Where else would you rather be? Talking ball. Maybe I'll call in from the sideline.

Oh, you're gonna be there? Dude, I go every year. Ah, fuck. Are you really? Now I'm pissed. Now it doesn't seem so exciting sitting in my home talking about the game. Where are you going to eat? We're doing Brandon's Supper Club, I think Thursday and Friday night. And then, you know,

just take it from there. Hooked up at the casino. Should be fun. That's a great way to scout. I'm going to talk about that in the show this week. That's a scouting delight because the saints are home on Sunday. I can't do the saints. I can't do the saints. LSU I've done it before. It's, it's a big ass. It's a big ass. Yeah. It's tough to appeal yourself.

Right. You know, out of the, I'm actually going to come back. I'm going to, I haven't done this in a while, but I've been so sick of doing it. The last couple of years where I would go to these sec schools for the game, but then I would just be so schools for the game. But then I would just be so. Worried about missing the NFL on Sunday that I would just do all NFL Sundays. And then I would tape my pod on Monday from the hotel room.

And then I would get back to LA at like a Monday night. And the last couple of times I've done it, there was no reason to really even be depressed. I just was bummed out and I'm like eating at some strip mall, watching Sunday night football, taking notes, and then getting up and like working out at a hotel gym and checking your flight. And you're like, you're still there. You're still there in the sec town and everybody's

been gone now for like 48 hours. And you're sitting there doing life advice, like three o'clock in the afternoon. When you're the one who really needs the life advice at that point. Right. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Right. So we're trying something a little different this time. I'm going to, like three o'clock in the afternoon. When you're the one who really needs the life advice at that point. Right, right. Yeah, right. So we're trying something a little different this time. I'm trying to get back Sunday morning. So going for it. Big boy departure. Like early? Yeah, early. Just. Out of where?

Baton Rouge. That's aggressive. Atlanta, LAX. But that just ruins that like, what are you doing? I'm going to be able to pull it off. I can tape everything and then get back here and then I'll just stay up getting caught up on all the games. Like I totally can do it. It's just instead of starting at 10 AM, I'll start at two and instead of being done at eight, I'll be done at midnight and then we'll rip it right back. Yeah. All right.

Well, enjoy the weekend. All right. Thanks, Todd. Enjoy your week, not just the weekend. I'm going to be able to pull it off. I'm going to be able to pull it off. I'm going to be able to pull it off. I'm going to be able to pull it off.

I'm going to be able to pull it off. I'm going to be able to pull it off. I'm going to be able to pull it off. I'm going to be able to pull it off. I'm going to be able to pull it off. I rip it right back. Yeah. All right. Well enjoy the weekend All right. Thanks Todd. Enjoy your week. Not just the weekend. That's Todd McShay You want details bye I drive a Ferrari 355 cabriolet What's up? I? Have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you can possibly imagine. And best of all kids, I am liquid.

So now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required. Life advice, life advice, rr at gmail.com. We've got Kyle and Saruti. Yup. What's going on? Johnny's are back. That's about all. Is there any other news going on?

No one has more Johnny's gear than you do. Get a ton of Johnny's gear. Hey, next week we're playing Quinnipiac, Steve. Let's go. Somebody tweeted at me that there was like a shout out in the press box pod, so I'll have to go back and listen to it. I do listen to the pod. They said that they needed help with the Quinnipiac poll, so I guess I might be the expert, so I'll have to call in. Get on that dude. Do you take a lot of pride in that poll?

You know what's kind of crazy? I initially yes. Because like when you tell people you know where you went to school, you want people to know where you went. And you know, Quinnipiac's a little obscure school in the northeast. Shout out to Hamden, Connecticut. But that's actually a work study job to call. I didn't personally do it, but I had a bunch of buddies that did work study where they would call up, cold call random people, undecided voters, and just ask them questions. Which feels like, I need to know more about that.

I'm like mad that I didn't do it. That seems like it could have been kind of fun. It's nice that you have a claim to fame. When I say I go to Potsdam, people are like, the Potsdam good, am I right? That's all I got, that's all they had for Potsdam. The high school mascot was the Stoners, by the way. Unironically, like a guy who like breaks stones.

That's actually kind of awesome. Pretty funny, yeah. Dudes were walking around with Potsdam Stoners gear. Pretty good. That's like the USC Cox hat, South Carolina. Everybody had that hat back in the day, yep. I had it. So did I. You want to go to a Dave show?

Here's your South Carolina hat. Yep. All right. All right. What do we got here? Denver Live Pod. We're getting a lot of these. Let's just put them all to bed right now.

I'm a photographer based in Denver. I have shot live concerts and sports. Would love to shoot the live pod at the Fillmore. I do it for super cheap or free. I mean, I listen to every pod for free, so it's only fair. I'd also be sure to only share flattering angles of Rossello. Let me know if you might be interested, happy to talk about it more, share some of my work.

P.S. Kyle, I played lacrosse with Zoe at SLU and am a normal person, he can confirm. SLU shout outs. It's Bill's spot, it's not mine. So I have nothing to do with it. I'm just sort of there. If you're going and you wanna take photos of me after, that'd be cool.

Need some photos for the family calendar this year. Christmas dance. So what is that? Just what's what? I'm just saying, if he's going to go anyway, like, you know, after I'm really going there to push the button, it sounds like, and then put the pot up later. So, you know, I'm going to be free afterwards. That kind of sounds like it would suck for him.

Whatever you just asked, if you'd be interested in doing. A solo shoot? Well, just like out and about, like maybe the crowd. Like in the alley? I don't know. With your arms folded? I have been doing the arms folded thing. I've been liking the way the results have been coming with the arms folded. Anyway, we can talk off air.

I love the idea of like, hey, we hired this photographer to shoot the show. Oh, like, you know, what does Bill want? Does he want this? Oh, no, he's just photographer to shoot the show. Oh, like, you know, what, what does Bill want? Does he want this? Oh no, he's just going to shoot Kyle on the job. I'm just saying if you're going to anyway. Yeah, but I don't think that's what he wants to do. I was surprised.

Yeah. I don't know. I was surprised how like down you were for your own photo shoot. Don't get a lot of offers. That's all I'm saying. Get it where you fit it. That's fair. Yeah. You miss all the shots you don't take. Didn't Michael Scott say that? I think Wayne Gretzky said it and Michael Scott said it. Okay. Sports journalism. Current personal trainer, 34, five 10, 200 pounds, 550 deadlift, 500

pound squat, 365 bench press. Look out. Seems high. Former professional MMA fighter and former football player. So look out. I'm a diehard Chicago Bulls fan. The last few years I started a Twitter account strictly for my Bulls thoughts and it's taken off into a nice little following.

A couple of months ago, I was asked by a sports site to write content for them about the bulls. My problem is they seem to want bubblegum content, small six paragraph articles on whatever trade rumor or bullshit thing is in the news that day. I want to do in-depth analysis, write pieces breaking down exactly what the bulls miss about Alex Cruz's defense or break down the reasons why Patrick Williams looks like a bust. I wanna write the kind of articles that talk days, if not weeks, to really break down what's going on, the kind of articles you used to see on Grantland. This site has no interest in these kinds of pieces. Is there any appetite for those types of articles anymore?

Is that side of journalism dead? Would I be better off starting my own blog or podcast? Well, um, it's going to say to you on a microphone. Yeah. I mean, look, um, I, I think you're, it's great that that's what you want to do. I don't know if that's what the audience wants anymore.

Um, I cannot believe how quickly Google and just the time from pre, well, I would say researching the preview stuff for the over unders for the 23, 24 season versus the 24, 25 season, how bad Google was and what it was drawing me towards and all of the articles that exactly you're talking about. Like you would actually click on it.

Most of the times I can kind of weed it out before I even click where I'm like, I don't think this is a real place and it'll be somebody's picture and there's like a byline and then it's supposedly totally real. And it would just be like five places where Lonzo ball could go and be like, you know, Lakers was drafted there. Charlotte brother plays there.

Golden state potential help with Curry injury, Miami, always in the market for talent. And then it would just, then it's over fucking articles over. And I had Googled like last time Lonzo ball played or whatever. And I granted, I could just look it up on a game log, but the traffic now, whatever it was and like Bleacher report was ahead of this before anybody else. It was kind of like the first fake podcast number where, because everything was a slideshow, their numbers just dominated. So then every time you went to look for anything sports related, it was just

going to Bleacher Report because it was getting the highest hit rate, but it also took you, you had to click 12 fucking times to read the article. Now, granted they ended up hiring like some real people, but in the beginning, it was just, let's do the slideshow thing that's different than everybody else. And then our numbers are going to be through the roof. And I think it worked out for all of those people the

same way it's worked out for, for some in podcasting. But when I'm talking like you're right, the guy writing in is totally right. And it's really, really frustrating, but it would appear to be a result of what I, what I always talk about, like the's really, really frustrating, but it would appear to be a result of what I, what I always talk about. Like the audience really is the blame for the product that they get because it seems like people click on that shit more than they were going to click on

any of the long form stuff. But I can't believe how quickly when you're trying to look up like something from a couple of seasons ago, or you're trying to find the right stat for what's the record, so much of it isn't just totally wrong. And then the rest of it will be just, I said a word and here's a word and whatever those most popular thing in the last week. Like if you wanted to try to find any Carl Anthony Towns information, good luck finding anything that would be more than just a couple of months

ago from the trade to now. Like it's just nuts. So. I mean, I don't, I think this stuff is probably changing as the way people get their stuff and what they care about changing. But do you think this is almost part of the storyline now of your arc about doing the thing you actually wanna do? Is this the beginning part where it's just like,

you're not gonna like it, but you just like you do it? Like, is that, if this is what you want, you want to talk and analyze sports, and the most jobs there are writing this, I don't know, could be AI stuff that is kind of garbage, but that's what's out there. Like, is that like the beginning? Is that like, you know, if you want to be a bartender,

maybe you start as a dishwasher or, you know, you want to be a server, you just do that for a little bit. Is that, you think that's like the new norm, sort of? Yeah. It's like Chris Evans, like you got to do not another teen movie before you start doing be a server, you just do that for a little bit. Is that, you think that's like the new norm, sort of? Yeah. It's like Chris Evans, like you got to do not another teen movie before you start doing, for your Captain America. Right, cause he's just like,

are people going to look at you differently when you're trying to go for your next job and you still keep the Twitter account, it's going well. And you're like, oh, but he also wrote for this website that's nothing. Like I don't think it would damage you as much as he's worried about. It's probably good that you're going in the right direction in this increasingly harder

to be successful at thing. I don't know. Maybe it's not increasingly harder, but... It sounds like he's not just like, hey, I want to write no matter what. It's like, hey, I want to write this specific thing. I think he could still do that. It's just going to take way longer to grow and it's going to be harder. And it's going to be more of a grind where you can probably get that instant gratification as concept right away. If you do the stuff you don't want to do at first and then grow into it. Um, but you know, you never know if that payoffs even going to be there.

So it's like, is it worth it or is it not worth it? Uh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, here's the thing I would ask, how important is this to you? Because it sounds like it's not so important that you're going to do the paying your dues phase that Kyle was kind of alluding to here. Like you don't want to do any of that stuff.

Like if you cared about it so much, then maybe you do that for a little while. But if you're going to just not enjoy it, I would say just keep doing your thing and just tell the people know. But I, I think the just keep doing your thing and just tell the people no. But I think the real shame in all of this is that the number of times I will see, that's why I still religiously will read Ringer with some of the long form stuff and then the athletic has a lot of really good long form stuff.

But whenever you're Googling something now for just, Hey, what's going on with this team or I'm going to see what's going on there. It's just this, it's mostly terrible. And I won't even know who the person is. 90% of the time it's like, who the fuck wrote this? And it's, there's just nothing to it. There's nothing to it whatsoever. What I think those are the things that get the clicks. So that's why you're being asked to write those. So anyway, you're going to have to figure out what's important to you because maybe not writing those and being annoyed is still more important

than growing whatever it is that you're trying to grow. So, um, all right. Let's see here. Girlfriend texted X. Uh oh. Ben, an RR fan since day one, used to listen to him and SVP walking around Ohio State's campus back in 2009.

She doesn't listen, you can keep it all in. Alright, 6'6", nice. 235, Dirk. Mainly because I was a tall person in my small town. I grew up in and could shoot elbow and baseline, Fataways and wing threes were my specialty, All-Star gains and some D3. Offers started a new job recently, TA for regional company.

Gig is great, doing well on salary now compared to commission based sales where I also did well. Free trips to Cancun, private shares, quit my job and had to go to Indy for training on the new one. When I was gone, my girl for the four years and I got into an argument. I wasn't drinking at the time, but she was and then went off on me for breaking her trash can where there's no proof that I did. Became a huge argument and then the next day everything was fine.

Got home and a month later she was super sketchy about her phone. She's never been like that. We live in a big college town, Columbus, Ohio, and her brother played there back in the day. It was driving me nuts So I went through her Apple watch and found she was texting her ex who lives in Cali boy this guy doesn't care. He wants us to share all of it. All right That she was there for seven years before moving back to Ohio when she met me I asked her when she last talked to him. She said she couldn't remember. It's clearly a lie. He's 2,500 miles away

So I'm not threatened but her mom lives there so she could easily go see him. She also texted the guy who she didn't say anything wrong to, but he was clearly flirting with her, wanted to cool off with the keyboard scene. What's that mean? I have no idea. I hate that I don't know, but I don't know. Yeah, I need you guys. We live together, have a condo. I don't know, but I don't know. Uh, yeah, I need you guys. We live together, have a condo. I don't know if I can trust her though. And I would stay in Columbus. I graduated, uh, she wants me to propose and wants to start a family, but I don't know if I can trust her.

What would you do? So it's a lot of stuff, but it doesn't seem like it's that serious. Oh, this is all because of a fucking garbage can, man. It must've been one hell of a receptacle. Well, it's, it sounds like he's, you know, he's with somebody that when they drink, like certain things aren't off the table. That's, that's the, that's what it sounds like. Maybe.

Like maybe it's, maybe it's a fight, slams the door in the, you're in separate rooms and she pulls out her phone and fires something off, I don't know. And then maybe she zooms out the next day and she's like, oh, what the fuck? So maybe that's the kind of person that she is. And I think there's a lot more of those people out there than you want to admit or that those people would want to admit.

So it might not be that she's a devious person, but if she gets into some extracurriculars and then bad ideas become not so bad ideas, that's maybe what it sounds like, so I don't know. Wait, just for clarification, do we know what the texts were to the guy? Or we just saw that there were text messages? Yeah, well, she said that one guy

was definitely flirting with her. The second guy, it wasn't that big of a deal. guy was definitely flirting with her. The second guy, it wasn't that big of a deal. Um, got home some sketchy, uh, was driving me nuts. Found it. She was texting her ex. Um, I asked her what she, so she lied about talking to him. So it wasn't, he didn't even say necessarily what was in there.

Um, yeah, I mean, it depends on what's in there. Hey, I'm going to meet up or whatever, or like this guy sucks. I don't want to live with him anymore. Smash my trash can. I mean, there's on what's in there. Hey, I'm going to meet up or whatever, or like, this guy sucks. I don't want to live with him anymore. Smash my trash can. I mean, there's levels to it. Now, some people would see it as like a complete betrayal just to be talking to anybody. I think that is. Yeah, there's a case to be made.

There's a case to be made. But, you know, especially if they live in the same town as us. They live in the same town as the mom. Maybe she always liked Derek and she's just like, you know, I saw Derek the other day. He helped me put my AC in. I don't know. Derek sounds like a solid guy. In the most part, yeah, you could make a case to be like,

yeah, you shouldn't be messing around with this type of stuff. Okay, but would you not marry a person because of this? Well, I feel like this is always the case where, we obviously don't know this person. How out of character is this for her? If there are other things, is there a reason that you went to her phone

because she was acting sketchy? Have you suspected something like this before? If this is totally out of nowhere and not like her, then I think you kind of let it slide as a kind of a one-off thing. Maybe she was having a bad night, she really liked that. Maybe it was a two-in-one.

Maybe there's a recycling situation going on in that trash can. Could have been awesome. There's one right next to me I love it so many mess with that be pissed off $150 simple human. Yeah, that's what it is Well, yeah, you know you get that we got it on sale a bed bath to be out when they're going Sure, black Friday. It wasn't 150 bucks, but it is a nice one But yeah, like but if she's done this before you like don't trust her then yeah, like that's a This might be the beginning of the end So I depends on like we don't have all the information yeah, like that's a, this might be the beginning of the end. So it depends on like, we don't have all the information

here, but you have to ask yourself like, do like, all right, is this just like one blip of like not trusting or is there a habit of her kind of going behind your back on things that I need to maybe be a little bit more aware of and take a little bit more seriously. And the question also was like, not like, you know, am I in the wrong here? Should I, it was like, I'm thinking about marrying this

person, what do you think about marriage? Some was like, I'm thinking about marrying this person. What do you think about marriage? Some guys get married six, seven times. Other guys will never do it because they're just like, I can't imagine. So if you're, like, there's definitely a spectrum for how you feel about marriage. And if you're like-

Six or seven times? You know, I mean, some guys, you don't think? There's guys out there in their seventies who are on their, you know, their sixth marriage, I think. So- Yeah, those people are really throwing off the stats too, by the way, because- That's what I mean. I was just giving you, you know, their sixth marriage, I think. Yeah, those people are really throwing off the stats too, by the way, because I remember this stat. That's what I mean, I was just giving you, you know,

the polar opposites here. Yeah, I get you, I get you. So imagine getting divorced five times and then being like, yeah, I'll do this again. I can't imagine inviting people to that. I can't imagine throwing that many weddings. You can't. How many times can you get divorced

before you could actually have like a normal wedding too? Because I've had this conversation with some friends who have, you know, who have, not three times, but twice. It's like, all right, how many weddings do you really get in your life? Can you be excited about the third one? Like, do you do the whole ensemble and you invite the hundred and fifty people? Do you have friends that have been divorced twice already? I think that's nice. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no situation, which is keep it vague. And it's like, man, we're going to do the wedding thing again. At that point, I think only your family comes, just your family comes in.

I think it's like a... I wouldn't want anybody around. I'd be like, hey guys, we're married. Just that boy out. Yeah, this is embarrassing actually. Like I don't know. Yeah. I think you're totally right on that one.

You guys could be taking bets at my fucking third wedding. Great. Like this person's such a fucking narcissist. Like, what is this? So 250 plus black tie affair. wedding. Great. Like this person's such a fucking narcissist. Like what is this? So 250 plus black tie affair. Like your fourth time, huh? Yeah. Really like these, huh? Uh, yeah, I don't know if we helped a ton there. Nope. Nope. Um, I don't know. It just sounds like. Do you confront her though? I mean, I guess,

I guess maybe throw that out there. You already know she's lied. Yeah. That sort of sucks, but he did go through her stuff, which we're not usually a fan of here. Um, I think the only time I've really felt good about saying, maybe check it out was when the guy's wife and kids went missing, right edge reasonable. Yeah.

I think that one was like, maybe I'll, maybe I'll just peruse here and see if there's a clue. I hate to break this rule. Yeah. That one I'm like, yeah, I think, I think that would be fine. Um, did I tell you guys about the time when a friend of mine called me, but didn't realize they had called me and they were in the car with my ex talking about me. And so I answered the, I answered the phone. How does this shit happen?

Man, this is another example of like the, like this shit ha like. This is the only thing that would happen to Ryan. So talk to tech shit right there. I don't know what that is. No, it was a call. The call came in and I answered it. And then I could just hear two people talking about me. And then I knew, and then I heard my ex say something like, well, I wanted to

move and, and I was like, do you really want to listen to this? I'm like, you're going to get some answers to stuff. You're going to get some law. They're going to be a bunch of mystery solved and perhaps a few mysteries added to the to-do list. So I went, yeah, I just went, I'm not going to do this. Do you really have time or energy to get to the bottom of this? Well, it was like a good eight seconds

and I was like, are you, what are you gonna get out of this? Did you ever tell them that happened? I told my friend, I didn't tell the ex. Yeah. She was like, you hung up? Yeah. Power moved out.

I think you got a little of your power back by doing that. Yeah. Then it was kind of like, did you hang up so you could tell me you hung up? So you sounded cool. Like, what's that? Bottom line is a hung up. Let's do one more, whatever. Six, two, one 95, player, comp Royce O'Neal. Don't have any impressive gym staffs, but I love my bicep pump.

Good for you. 24 years old, I have some trouble finding balance in my life, a little background. I graduated college four months ago. And as of a month ago, I was accepted to medical school because of my goal of being a physician one day. I sort of turned into a lone wolf when I started college, constantly studying and working on this goal.

Now that I'm done with school, I've realized how closed off I was for the last four years. I barely have any friends and don't have very many hobbies other than hitting the gym and watching games. I wanted to ask you guys what suggestions you might have for someone in my position. When you guys look back, do you wish you had been more social and gotten to know more people

or would you have rather stayed focused on the grind? I imagine the answer is a mix of the two. Any advice would be much appreciated. I just wanted to hear what you guys think is the most important things to focus on at my age. No, I did go to BYU, so going out and going to the bars isn't really an option. Ha ha, go Cougs.

I don't see an issue with any of this. Met school's tough, man. Like there were guys in pre-med at UVM that we didn't see all the time. And that blew our minds. Like there was one engineering guy in the group and he couldn't really do anything. He was constantly engineering. And then some of the pre-med guys, like it wasn't until the very end of a semester that you would see them. So you've made a massive commitment unless you're just so gifted.

And I don't even know how that works, but you're just so gifted that you sort of just get it all, you get everything and then you don't have, I think that's probably fairly rare. So, um, and the BYU, interesting wrinkle, right? I mean, how much fun would you really have had? Intermural sports. No, I'm not saying, you know, yeah. Yeah. I mean, Jimmer would tell you would tell you, he had a great time.

But I, this is the age, I mean, the cool thing is you're gonna be a doctor. So I guess like, you know, most people who are bummed out about their college experience also don't have a doctor, doctorate, so that's awesome. But I guess it's like the, just being a doctor and having no friends outweigh not having an awesome college experience.

I think people wanna have friends with it, be friends with a doctor though. I don't know, maybe not. Maybe remember how I used to go out to bars with my suit on in college. Maybe you just go straight from work lab coat. Yeah, you're right. Scrubs? Maybe, scrubs or maybe just the ID badge. Is this Halloween?

ID badge is just hanging from your, you know, from your pocket or something. Like, oh, put that away. Yeah, put that away. Yeah. That's such a long day. Days are blending together. And I'll save so many lives today. In the emergency room.

But I don't know. You're still young and you get to do this part. A lot of guys do this part with no money and no prospects and you're doing it like finished and probably making decent money. I know you got loans, but who doesn't? So I don't know. I think, got loans, but who doesn't? So, I don't know. I think, like we already said, the BYU part,

how much could you really have done? You could have got yourself in some serious trouble. I mean, I thought pot sandwich strict. I can't imagine getting caught doing stuff at BYU. So, yeah, I don't know. I think it's classic to wonder if you did this wrong. I know I probably did my shit wrong. I would go back for academic

success instead of all the time I used doing other stuff. What would you do? What would you like? I was thinking, would I actually do more extracurriculars? I probably would have got a better skill than a communications degree, which I'm not sure the communications department really even knows. I was like, wait, so I just will be HR one day? I don't know. Not sure. The communication degree is a joke, right? Yeah. Yeah. I'll be honest.

Yeah. Listen, I'm two comms degree guys here, like half of my guiding. Listen, I've got, there's people that I graduated with that are on network news channels and there are people that literally just didn't even get into the business, it's very strange. I know. I don't know. I would have just tried a little harder I think.

Probably in high school too I would have tried a little harder. Because then I really realized how limited those college things were. Like my dad yelled at me that I applied to UAlbany. He was like, you're not getting in there, what the fuck, you just wasted 50 bucks. I was like wow, didn't realize you were there.

Did you not get in? Yeah, then I didn't get it. Didn't get it. No, you didn't get in. Um, fair loss, dude. I think the other thing though, the point that we should get to here is that you probably need to find a way to do a better job of the people in your department that are in your school.

And all have the same stresses and all have the same brutal schedules. Like I totally get it. You didn't have the same undergrad and all have the same brutal schedules. Like I totally get it. You didn't have the same undergrad experience that other guys did, but you decided very early on this is something you want to pursue and you're on the path to it and that's going to be. Part of the sacrifice that you can't just get weird on a Thursday because your commitment to your schooling is that much more, you know, it's just the schedule, man. It's, it's brutal. Like I even knew some girls that were in physical therapy. And then as they progressed through the school and PT training, like we would never see him.

We saw him like the first couple of years. And then they'd be like, did they transfer? It's like, no, that's what it is. And I know it sucks, but I think you'll feel better for it down the road. But as far as being in med school, find people, like try to be social within that group. Because I think all of you are going for the same things.

You'll understand the sacrifices that you're making. And maybe it's just something where you say, Hey, once every six weeks or something, we let's make sure we find a break. Yeah. Do trivia. You know, get me the guy that gets trivia. And I started. Does it have to be that door? Yeah. I'm serious. just something where you say, Hey, once every six weeks or something, we let's make sure we find a break.

Yeah. Do trivia, you know, get, get me the guy that gets trivia night started. Does it have to be that dorky? Do trivia is awesome. What are you talking about? Is trivia awesome? Yeah. You guys are like, awesome being in a bar that does trivia that you didn't know

about, that's kind of cool. I think that's cool. I was surprised. Wait, so you think trying to go, oh, you think trivia? Surprise trivia? Wait, so you think trying to go to trivia sucks, but accidentally doing trivia is awesome? I just meant it was a nice surprise for me in the last month.

I was like, oh, fuck, it's turning into, it's like a flash mob, but it's trivia. I was like, oh, that's interesting. Okay, so rank them, rank them. Appointment trivia, surprise trivia. Well, surprise trivia is awesome. I mean, I'm not going to argue on that, but. So you think.

I just thought it was funny that it was your, your first, first, because they're doctors, probably nerds. Yeah. Um, I would get texts from people all the time cheating being like, Hey, I'm a true guy who is Kirk Gibson or something like that. Um, what's, what's dorkier trivia or group karaoke off at butterfly and West Hartford with all the music, the music and theater kids from Hartford

and then ESPN being in the mix because that thing was insane. It was. I would say man that's tough because that sounds dorkier than trivia. I mean I wasn't there but come on. But it was like kind of awesome and so I've only went a couple times because it was a shit show. And it could be really fun. But I'm not, it's not for me, like I guess I'm more of a dork because I like the trivia thing. But I'm not, I don't think that's dorky. I guess that yeah, it's probably the trivia thing.

But that- Wait, so you said theater games, were they doing like queueing up like numbers from cats or something? Or was it like- Duke. Yeah, and like they have enough microphones that like one group was like-

They had a second. Battle, karaoke-ing the other group. And and they all had it the fucking routine down. And I went once because everybody talked about like how crazy it was. I think I just gone through a breakup and somebody's like, oh, you should come out. You should come out. I was like, this is making it way worse. I'm gonna go home. But it was just on and you would have thought if it were an episode of Glee and you were like,

Hey, you're just going to be an extra and this is going to be an episode of Glee. I would have believed it. It was so coordinated. It was so intense and people were actually really good too. But then there'd be like an ESPN dude that would get in the mix or whatever every now and then. But that thing, I'm glad I saw it. I never wanted to go again.

And I didn't, wasn't going to sing a song either. So there's something kind of bad-ass though. Maybe you guys are going to laugh at this, but like, if you're, if you're killing it at trivia, like you just know all these like cool history facts and I don't know, that's, that's like a powerful feeling. When it's great to feel smart. Yeah.

All right. You've got me sold. Yeah. Group trivia, we should plan this Ryan's house. Maybe. All right. Yeah. We'll do it at my right over said. Yeah, group trivia. We should plan this, Ryan's house maybe. All right. Yeah, we'll do it at my place. Right over said, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, let me get some questions next time I see you guys. That'd be great. All right, that'll do it for Life Advice. Friday feedback, we're gonna tape live, well, I don't know, I guess we'll just tape it. Live. I don't know why I guess I'll just tape it and it'll be,

I don't know why I would say live. In Denver. We could probably pull it off live, but it's not important for it to be live. Friday feedback, rr at gmail.com. So any questions there, we'll go through it and sound like Saree had something else there. No, just tape it.

We're going to tape it on Wednesday. Should drop probably Thursday or into Friday. So get them in front All right. Sounds good. Um, we got big cap after the college football committee rankings Something else big going on Tuesday to busy week. So yeah, there you go. Oh, yeah, that's right the trade deadline That's what I was thinking Thanks to work on thanks to Kyle. Thanks to Serenity, the Ryan Rizzolo podcast, your YouTube page and the Ringer's channel. Must be 21 and older, present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 plus and present in DC gambling problem, call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit rg-help.com, call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org forward slash chat in Connecticut or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland.

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