The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Live From Las Vegas With Todd McShay: Top Five Personal NFL and NBA Draft Misses, Plus Life Advice

Episode Date: November 16, 2023

Russillo was live from Las Vegas with Todd McShay! They talk about their humble beginnings when they first met early in their careers and the criticism of Caleb Williams as the next “can’t miss” draft prospect. Plus, Todd gives his top five NFL draft misses, and Russillo gives his top five NBA draft misses (22:28). Finally, Kyle and Ceruti join for Live Advice (36:25). The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming, please checkout theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Host: Ryen Russillo Guest: Todd McShay Producers: Isaiah Blakely, Kyle Crichton, Steve Ceruti Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

live from vegas jimmy kimmel's comedy club thanks to salesforce we had todd mcshay with us going over our all-time nfl and nba bust five apiece our humble beginnings we do a little q a and life advice live again from no. But blueberry muffins with the delicious crumb topping, total yes. Get almost, almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. Alcohol and select markets. Product availability may vary by region. See app for details. All right. So we got Todd McShay coming out. We'll do life advice. We'll do Q&As.

We've got a lot of fun. Thank you again for making it out here on a Wednesday night, and we'll get this thing started. Thank you. Thank you. Put asses in the seats, huh? Look at you. Well, I think there may have been a coupon

i'm not sure uh we're doing tonight my uh i just sitting in that car for eight straight hours like my legs are dying right now so it's like all right um i've been in a car ride with you for like five hours and it was i can't imagine being in your head alone it's a dangerous neighborhood up there well it we had a lot of we we traveled a lot in 2008 it was the only year they let us do game day together and they were like all right it's it's time for you guys to move on although you moved on to tv so you got like promoted i was still just doing radios yeah we missed so many flights back on Sunday morning that they decided from travel and expense.

Thank God it was a big enough company to not really pay attention to what was happening. They were like, how come their flights keep going up every Sunday? Why are they coming back on Monday? We met 20 years ago at that Boston radio station. I was reading Todd in sporting news. I didn't know who he was. I just really liked his stuff. And then somebody was like, he actually lives in Boston. Like maybe we can have him come by the studio. And he shows up. He's like this young dude. It was like, I was like, Oh, what is this?

I was like, I thought this was his old grizzled NFL guy. He actually showed up with Portnoy, which is funny because Dave, you introduced me to Dave in the in the studio and I was like oh you're the guy that like does that pamphlet right well that's that was the joke like I grew up with Dave Portnoy who started Barstool Sports and I was actually living with him at the time we all got out of college I was making 12 grand my first year for this the tiny little scouting company called the War Room and I got a hundred percent raise the next year making 24 000 in midtown manhattan then we moved to boston and port noise living there he was making 125 000 like right out of college selling medical uh technology or something medical devices yeah yeah those guys actually it's a good gig but but i'm living with

them and i come home one day and he's sitting sitting there. He's talking to, like, two creditors. He's got two phones going. Like, what is going on, man? He's like, yeah, we're going to have to cut this lease out. I'm going to have to move home for a while. I'm starting this barstool sports thing. And we started joking, like, so you're going to leave this $125,000 to start a pamphlet about gambling? And, you know, it's funny.

You know, joke's on me now because he just bought a 56 million dollar home in nantucket he was so mad when i said pamphlet and i was like all right well that was the big joke it was a pamphlet and he was delivering it in one of our friends mom's old minivan overnight i mean it was a disaster but i remember when when we met so the it was 15 10 the zone right yeah it's the radio station there's still some t-shirts and when they first started they were going up against the i can't wait to see those they uh they first started they were going up against weei which is like the big show in town has the biggest sports station in the country in the country and they but they got uh bill

you guys had bill simmons at first sean mcdonough like some big names and they were making a run for it and that fizzled i think the money ran yeah they spent all the money on those guys and then i showed up right so so i'm we come in and i'm just starting with espn i'm doing some tb i'm kind of contracted out i don't have a i'm not a salaried employee at the time and so i'm kind of nervous because portnoy comes to me he's like listen we got this opportunity I'm paying 15 10 the zone to get like an hour of time so we it's not like we were getting paid he was paying we were selling hours like at one point my show was four hours and then these other guys bought two hours of it and they showed up to work they're like your show's two hours now yeah and we were

one of the hours it was me and Portnoy and this other guy Elio Imbernoni who was my good friend from college and um so we went in we did like like four or five shows, a couple for bars. And we had a lot of fun. And then we went into studio for the first time. That's when we met. We didn't know. I mean, we're young. We're dumb.

We're important. Always buying time. We go into the fridge in between segments. And it's stocked full of polar, you know, polar soda. I think it's a New England thing. Yeah, it must be. I mean, it's like trash of polar you know polar soda and i think it's a new england thing yeah it must be i mean it's like trash soda right take it easy and and we and we we proceed to go on the air for the next segment for 15 minutes and just rip polar soda like this radio station's a joke they can't afford diet pepsi or coke or whatever you know they've got polar polar this

polar that polar this the show ends and we walk out and they're like two executives red in the face they're like we we our biggest sponsor is polar the phone has been ringing off the hook you guys just blew it and so that was it that was the last time that was the last time that we were that was the last barstool sports that was yeah we hit it off so we we became friends from that point on but i did i was looking today because i couldn't remember if it was 15 10 the zone or the fan or whatever radio and i came upon this this great quote from rusello you ready i said this in 03 well no you said it after the fact they were interviewing like you and simmons and some of the other guys oh yeah where you are today like this company that we started this radio station we better get to the draft soon yeah we will i love doing this to you so this

is rusello's quote in the article that i read today when they offered me the contract they said it's a thousand bucks a paycheck i was i, I was so stupid. I was like, holy shit, 52 grand a year. He goes, he goes on to say, I can pay some bills, maybe go away for a week in the summer. I'll be able to make adult money for sure here. He goes, I was thrilled. And then he goes on to say, and then I found out that you get paychecks every two weeks. The article then one line underneath says, Rosillo was making $26,500 in that first year. But that's what I loved about him. You know, we met, we were both struggling. We both couldn't pay rent. We both could, you know, but we kind of grew up in that same

neighborhood, same area. And, and, and, and when he called me, when, when the 15, 10, the zone fell apart, I was like, you gotta come down to Bristol. And it was, yeah. I mean, it was a little, cause the weird thing with Todd is he had this awesome setup with this scouts Inc. And then like ESPN made all sorts of decisions and they just wrote you guys a huge check for it. So then all of a sudden i was like wait now you're rich i'm like what the fuck um rich so they were getting rid of people and yeah and the reason i worked at espn for 15 years is because of todd so um i called them up and said they gave me a contract and then it was fake and they actually like waved papers in in the background of the phone i was like where's my raise because i'd signed a contract for like a

hundred thousand dollars a year and they were like we, we we've got it. It's done, you know, crossing the T's dot in the eyes. And then they laid me off a week later. So I was like, so that whole thing, I turned down two other offers. And I was like, so it was like the first lesson in how screwed up, uh, the business can be. And so I was desperate. And the funny thing is, is like, had I not been that desperate, I would have never even bothered to be like, dude, ESPN is not going to want me there. Like like i'm not ready for that i you know i can't even get a tryout and i called todd and todd was like hey i'll at least get somebody to listen to your tape so they're not going to just throw it in the bin where like the joke with radio stations is people get drunk at holiday parties

and put on people's demo tapes and he's like i'll promise that won't happen what i didn't know was the most unorganized place in the world and they were like we didn't even think you're good but we constantly screw up the schedule and if you'll drive down here two hours every single weekend um and that's what started it man so thanks so it's always cool to repay it i don't know if that's repaying you right now uh before we do any of the story time stuff because i we have a funny thing that we want to do at the end. I have a theory about draft experts that of all the professions somebody can have, maybe politicians is higher, but draft expert is near the top of everybody thinking

you're the dumbest person ever. No, like the number of people that I've had to argue with being like, you know he's my friend. You didn't run this part of the show by me before. Everybody thinks like you and Mel are actually terrible at what you do. I'm well aware. That's why I stopped looking at comments about 10 years ago. Do you think that that's I mean, have you had to see a therapist for that or anything?

No, no, it's I think it's it's made me a better man. I can deal with stuff. Iron sharpens iron. No, I mean, listen, here's the deal. Exactly. Here's the deal. I mean, NFL teams, screw it. The last five years, four of the last five years,

I've had the most of all these hundreds. It used to be Kuyper, and then it was Kuyper and me, and then it was Daniel Jeremiah, and now there's 98 people that submit their top 100 every year, and they have this competition. And I've been number one, like, four of the last five years. I didn't even know that. I know, hugely important. there's like 98 people that submit their top 100 every year and they have this competition and i've been number one like for the last five years i didn't even know that i know it's hugely important they should be like you know the front of usa today right but my point is you can be as accurate

as anyone in the league and have you know know exactly where these guys are going to go but the at the end of the day teams make mistakes. And they spend millions of dollars every year just scouting college players. They have two, three, four years of tape. They have senior bowls, you know, East-West Shrine games, combines, individual workouts, private workouts, all that stuff, the pro days. And they still get it wrong. And, you know, we can go into a deep thing that no one really cares about tonight. But trying to figure out when you give someone more money, more free time and more fame than they've ever had,

like, it doesn't matter who the human being is, what the profession is. You go from, you know, scraping by in college and now you're making $4 million a year or a couple million dollars a year. And you've got all this free time on your hand. You're focusing on football all the time. You've got all this fame and you're doing like you and you're playing with 33 year olds and you're 21 there's going to be some some problems and we see that every single year yeah look i mean the divorce rate would be lower if we were better predicting people that's true so i think you should you should have that in your bio thank you no but when you put in this much work and, you know, I didn't play in any game anybody cared about. I didn't have the coaching that people that are far more qualified in like terminology and different rules and stuff.

But when I add up all the hours that I watch, I go, I think I'm I'm I think I'm better at it. I think I'm right more than I'm wrong. And then I think like I wonder what it would be like to work for a team. But my lane is totally different than your lane of of going to school for it. for a team but my lane is is totally different than your lane of of going to school for it being in with people talking to as many teams as you do was it me on the outside like i always thought putting in all that work and then actually being part of something that's competitive has to be more rewarding than being on tv but then i'll hear all the people but i'll hear all the people in the front office beg you for a job being like can i do what you do instead of this so i don't always wonder how that dynamic works out because i i know you well enough to know that there's been opportunities

but i don't know that you've really wanted to do it as much as i would have thought you would have the only reason i got into this gig and got paid twelve thousand dollars in my first year living in midtown manhattan was scraping by like literally trying to see if i could get to his roommate was like 65 yeah and 400 pounds and i slept on his couch and he was my boss so it was very awkward but um he did like to party though so he did he did big wine guy yeah with with ice in his yeah i see him all the time anyway yeah he's one of those guys you're like every time i'm out he's out like what what does that mean yeah i had a point to this, but ultimately,

like I got into it to be, to, you know, go up the chain and become a general manager. That's what I wanted to do. I wanted nothing to do with television, nothing to do with radio. I truly enjoy like watching the tape, writing reports, all that stuff. And then I, you know, I got the first gig I ever got was with the game day radio doing, doing that, that shows like eight hours every Saturday and all that. And I, I didn't know what I was doing, doing that, that shows like eight hours every Saturday and all that. And I, I didn't know what I was doing. I mean, I, I screwed up. So I was shocked that I continued to have a job, you know, and I wanted nothing to do with it, but I got an offer. You got to understand, I was one of four people in this tiny company and we built it from

scratch, like grassroots, the thing ESPN thing that ESPN bought. And then we, we finally, we had 16 NFL teams that were, that were contracting us out and we just weren't making enough money to survive. So like we were like six days away from just shutting it down and everyone go in the league and take a job. This was back in like 2003. As an aside, knowing how much they paid for the company at the time and Todd had a a little piece of it i couldn't believe they didn't just start scouts corp and just like steal the idea from you yeah yeah yeah no i know just so we did some sporting news stuff and then espn came in we did a contract with them to do content and a year into it they ripped it up and and paid the you know the owners of the company and i yeah i had a tiny percentage but like 19 million dollars to to take over the company right at that point i'm like i've seen this thing through i can go

work for the browns or the jets those are two teams i was talking to or i can see this through and i would talk to my friends i only had a couple at that point a couple friends in the league and they're like dude i haven't been home in four months i've been traveling around from like omaha nebraska to kansas to you, all over the country in my car. Like you should see the back of my car at McDonald's and Burger King and all this shit. Like stay where you are. It's a better life. And so that, you know, and then I Joe Douglas became the general manager of the Jets and I played with him in college. And I had an opportunity to go there in a very high ranking position.

Then ESPN came back and said, you know what? We're going to give you a six-year deal. So it just, the timing was never there. But it's the one thing I miss, I've missed in my professional career is because there's no, I said it to Urban Meyer when he came to work for us for a year. He's like, everybody likes Urban.

So that's what it is. He loved Todd, by the way. He's always a crowd pleaser. Yeah, we're still close. I mean, there's Urban Meyer, the coach. There's Urban Meyer, the... The guy on TV and the coach. And then there's the Urban Meyer

when you're actually just, like, one-on-one with him. So, anyway. But the point is, he said, he's like, he's like, tell me, like, do you love doing this? I was like, I actually, I've come to enjoy it. I was like, but at the end of the day, coach, like, you can have the best show of your life, the worst show of your life.

When you walk off the set, they're going to say, great job. That was awesome. I mean, you could have been the worst, worst performance of your life with every single day. Great job. Great job. We got the commercials and we're good. Uh, and, but there's no winning, there's no losing. And that's the hard part about what we do is there's just no winning, no losing. No, rarely would you leave the set being like, suck today. Yeah, you were horrible. Although I probably could have used it a few times. Before we get to this exercise that we have at the end where we're going to share our top five misses that we could go back and fix in the NFL and the NBA draft,

I want to just get to kind of the nuts and bolts of it. I know we do it most weeks when you're on and everything, but the way the top five is shaking out, the way there's's this cut off and honestly like the Caleb Williams thing starting to turn I'll just throw in my two cents on I still watch those games I think they're doing him the disservice I wouldn't look at this falling apart USC season and go oh you know what I'm not into him anymore I think they're asking him to bail them out every possession put the cape on and save their ass because they can't do anything else right. So if I were an NFL evaluator, yeah,

there's some bad habits and some stuff I may not like, but the situation isn't doing him any favors. So if you need to write that down, I can do it again. I will. You've made a mental note. Just like the time you stood next to Tebow and said he's taller than you think, put that in your scouting report. No, I said he wasn't as big as you think.

Oh. I was like, I was out with him. Yeah, and you clearly had a couple drinks or something. I didn't like him, though. I didn't give him a good grade. A good grade? No, I mean, he went in the first round. I wouldn't have taken him in the first round.

There you go. Yeah, so this year, here's the deal. Like, Caleb Williams, if you go back, Patrick Mahomes was, he was very similar. If you go back, Patrick Mahomes, he was very similar. The special plays are so special that you only see one of them every decade, maybe 15 years. Mahomes got in horrible habits. I remember Mahomes.

There were some throws where he gets the ball out of the shotgun, and he's like this, right? And instead of just – I'm talking Pop Warner, like young kid stuff. Like get your feet perpendicular to the offensive line. Step to where you're throwing the ball. Follow through like easy stuff. He was just getting the ball and like 50 yards down the field when he had all the time in the world. He would bail out of the pocket.

Everything was sloppy. Then he got a year at Kansas city and sat behind Alex Smith and had, had Andy is his, is his head coach and a quarterback developer and had one year to sit and learn, got everything kind of fixed up. And he still has the special plays, but he got rid of all those bad habits that he had at Texas tech. I see the same exact things from Caleb Williams.

You can't coach some of the stuff that Caleb does. Like I just want like the touchdown drive in the last game that they lost, they've lost four out of the last five games. He's, everything is hero ball now, right? But there were two plays on that first scoring drive where it's like, find me somebody else that can do that that's in college. Find me somebody else in the last seven years that can do that that's in college that's why to me like he's gonna have the highest grade that I've given and I was too low on my homes coming out because of all the stuff I just said and I was worried that he had too many bad habits I was worried that he just didn't know how to play within a system but then found out that how

intelligent he was and how capable he was of picking all this stuff up Caleb some guys are gonna knock him Drake May from North Carolina is another great quarterback. And if you like Drake May, you're going to point to the slop. You're going to point to losing four out of five games. You're going to point to him making too many plays where he doesn't have to get outside of the pocket. He doesn't have to do some of the things he's doing. You're going to point to the fact that he's the new generation of dudes, right? He's painting his fingernails crying with mom in the stands the crying thing really was a negative with somebody when you if

you're pushing for drake may and you're a scout going into your gm these are the things you're going to pound on the table like drake may is so clean cut he never cries all the number cries with mom in the stands he waits till he goes home to cry to mom. You know, like, so I just, I hear all this shit every year. And it's like, because Caleb came in after winning the Heisman and was like, everyone knows he's going to be the first overall pick. It's like, all right, now I'm a scout. I got 15 months to figure out how I'm going to knock this guy. Yeah.

And that's what we do. And so all that stuff, like, yeah, you can bring that in. But again, find me a quarterback that can do the things that he does. And what's interesting this year now, you've got the Bears are picking at one as of right now. Like if the draft were today, based off of the records, the Bears have the Carolina Panthers first pick because of the trade last year. So the Bears would be picking at one. Arizona's picking at two. And then there are like six teams behind them, the Patriots, the Giants,

the Bears again with their pick, the Rams. Arizona. Yeah, all those teams kind of mix in. It's going to be the Bears and Arizona, I think, are going to be one and two, how it looks right now. But after that, Giants, Bears again, Rams, all of those teams are sitting there. But this is a year

like it's it's like having three rare diamonds that you can get. And after that, everything's like, you know, there's a bunch of good players. But when you're talking about Caleb Williams, who's got a chance to be a Patrick Mahomes type of talent at the next level, if developed properly, Drake May, who would would be like the star everyone's talking about if it wasn't for Caleb Williams. And then Marvin Harrison Jr. I mean, honestly, like Julio Jones, Calvin Johnson, you go by like, I would say Jamar Chase. Those are the three guys I look over the last 15, 17 years were the premier top grades I've ever given to wide receivers. He's going to be just as high, if not higher.

So you're talking about three guys that could absolutely change your organization. And then after that, it's just a regular draft. Good players, but not that special. So it's going to be interesting. Do the Giants want to win? Do the Patriots want to win? Mac Jones should have been. He earned it, but he's benched this week.

They're talking about Will Greer competing with Bailey Zappi. It's going to be interesting to see how it plays out because no one will ever admit that they're not trying and the players are all trying. But there will be some coaching decisions and players playing and not playing that I think will be interesting to track because it's so rare to have a draft where you literally have three guys that are a rarity to get.

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It was tough for me to find them. I put a list on my phone. Of mine or I may have left my notes back there. So Rudy, is there an index card with all sorts of valuable information? Handwriting that I doubt you'd even be able to read. I may just have to go back and grab it. This is this is really good show stuff. Well, you know, look, it's a live show. All right, let's make sure we have this. All right. How's everyone doing? grab it this is this is really good show stuff well you know look it's a live show all right let's make sure we have this all right how's everyone doing and this is what you paid the big bucks for right for rassila to go back yeah i i put down the list and it's it's it's always

interesting to go back and it's embarrassing i just never checked that wall so hard. That sucked. Do you want to go first? No, you go first. I've talked too much. All right, this one stings. Because back in my early days, when they were having me go to the draft with the Celtics, and then, like, this sucks. When they took Al Jefferson, Daryl Morey came up to me and was like, hey, the thing that we do with any high school player is you have to have this.

You have to have this. You have to have this. We run this whole program and we do it for every high school guy. This is one of the origins of the Daryl and I thing. We were still cool after this. But then I went on TV, local Comcast Celtics thing. I was like, when the Celtics draft a high school player, Tommy, what they do. And this is like me to Tommy Heinsohn and Mike Gorman. I'm like, they have to run them through this. And they look for this rebounding rate, whatever, whatever. The assistant GM to Ainge comes up to me after commercial break. He goes, where the fuck did you get that? And I go, well, somebody, he goes, we don't do any of that. Great. I was like, great. Thanks, Daryl. Awesome. So from that draft class, there was a Russian cat

named Sergei Monia, 6'-8 could kind of do everything did somebody actually remember that or no you're just laughing all right it's the name um i would like when you're younger too like when you're a draft expert when you're younger you're so confident right and so i'm sitting there being like this guy i can't believe he's not projected to go top 10 he's nasty he played one year one year he's still playing for saint petersburg now 20 seasons later so i didn't say beats right so yeah one season in the nba and i was like in love with him he was uh he was the 23rd pick in 04 one season you're usually looking for a little bit more my moño was jamarcus russell thank you what happened thank you that was a jamarcus Russell. Thank you. What happened?

Thank you. That was a Jamarcus thing, though, more than it was an evaluation. Well, again, young, first time doing this, first time ESPN sent me out to do pro days. And this son of a gun gets on one knee

at the end of his pro day and launches at 65 yards and hits a goal post from his knee. 65 yards. And I was like, whoo! And he had a great year. It just one season he beat Notre Dame remember he had a great season big strong not overly mobile but like would kind of like Roethlisberger you know would break some tackles and could

just drive the ball and make throws that a lot of guys can't and so I got enamored with it and then i i was always concerned like this guy's he just seems like really relaxed you know like i can't figure out like who he is mentally and so i didn't have enough context at that point so i trusted one person who i was like you know what's going on his personality his drive all that he's like, no, he's a worker. He's, you know, first one in, last one out, all the shtick. And he's like, he's just chill. And he's like, it's a positive. You know, nothing affects him. Do you still talk to this person?

I literally have not spoken a word to this. I see this guy annually at, like, the Combine Senior Bowl, and I'll walk in the other direction. So you learn. You live and learn. But Marcus Russell was, was yeah he was my first big gotcha moment well at least you didn't actually run a team and take him number one so there's i remember there was a guy with a and m who i go all right what's up with manziel i go

what's up he's got magic and he's like man because i just know coming out of the tunnel with him on saturdays we have a chance. That doesn't really seem like an answer about how he's going to be as an NFL quarterback. What about the other six days? Right. And then when it didn't work, I go, man, was that guy – he wasn't going to sell his guy out to me because I had had the show with Van Pelt at that point, but he wasn't going to dog his guy either.

Yeah. And that's – especially down south, That's like one of the biggest things. All right, I've got another bust for you for the people, for the non-casuals. Julian Wright, 6'8", out of Kansas. Guy was filthy. He did lead the Israeli league in rebounding about nine years ago. See, the NFL doesn't have the –

I know. We can't ship him over to Europe and – I went back a few days years I was like how's he doing with Belgrade I'm like oh you know I wasn't totally up yeah he he I had this weird thing for 6-8 guys for a while like if you could do all of these things and you weren't necessarily like super polished I was like he'll figure it out at the hardest level of competition in the world uh because that'll be easy So I have a new 6'8 rule. I think it started with Earl Clark from Louisville where I was like, if you're not actually good at the

basketball part, then I'm going to stop thinking you're going to be a good pick. But that was some of the early lessons there. But that one haunts me because when he was nice, it was nice. Coming down the break, leading it past good vision, shooting would get better. And he didn't do anything. Sam Darnold's my next one thank you see but everybody still has sympathy for him and we thought we were so close to seeing him with shanahan when we thought yeah no i was i was pumped up about it i know i know and mcshay comeback season seriously i i legitimately because remember that was the year with like josh mccown uh Baker Mayfield. Josh Rosen.

Josh Rosen, sorry. Josh Rosen. Who else was in that class? Lamar. And Lamar goes 31st or 32nd in that draft and winds up being the best of all the quarterbacks that were taken. So I thought he was going to be special, though. It's one thing to miss and have him as a top-ten prospect

and you know he's going to go early, but I thought he was going to be the next guy and he just has never pulled it together i i can't i still to this day can't totally figure it out it's it's just bad mistakes bad times but also remember how we started too it was like the jets have their guy yes because i also noticed how many times have we heard i mean mark sanchez sam darnold my next guy on my list i'll just tell you zach wilson like there's there's a trend here sometimes it's not the guy but but with zach it's the guy tell me it's not do you have a blind spot for attractive white quarterbacks jermarcus russell well that's it's

Jamarcus Russell? Well, that's... There's one outlier. Speaking of white guys, Sauce Castillo, a.k.a. Nick Stauskas. When I thought... I remember I called Chad Ford, and I was like, I think he can play a little one. I don't think he's just a two.

I think his ball handling's pretty crisp, and so did three. He was tall. He might be like 6'7", but because he was projected only as an off-ball, spot-up shooter, and then Michigan had these moments where they actually let him initiate the offense, I was like, you're getting even more with this guy because I love the guards that can play both on and off. He couldn't play on or off, and that's a problem.

And then he just couldn't shoot. And then everybody else was doing what I was doing. I think Sacramento ended up trading a first-rounder for him after it was already pretty clear, like, I don't think he's going to be that guy. But Vivek was on fire early on. New owner syndrome happens a lot. But Stauskas is the eighth pick in 14.

Yeah. CJ Spiller. Like, what happened, man? Yeah, that's like Darren McFadden. He was like my all-satellite team, inaugural all-satellite team, best in space. The league was starting to become more pass than run. You didn't need a 220-pounder. I thought he was going to be a perfect fit.

Could help in the return game if you wanted. He just never did it. He just didn't have he didn't have the juice he couldn't stay healthy for a while he disappointed me i mean that running backs are hit and miss but cj spiller i was certain was going to be a great see cj is more disappointing than even trent richardson because when trent came in and then i talked to i was like what's up and they were like he wasn't the quickest so if he ever got a little bit slower here it was over for him and i was like wow that's kind of great because remember

he was just truck sticking everybody yeah at alabama and um you know look all right i'm gonna save the best for last here but i'm gonna go lsu tyrus thomas speaking of 6a it's all 6-8 guys they haunt me number four pick an 06. I remember going on Chicago radio, and I was like, it's just going to take a little time. Like, don't worry about it. I also remember, I think I was leaving the Portsmouth Invitational Tournament. I was sitting next to a GM. We ended up on the same flight. And I was like, the Tyrus Thomas stuff is kind of out of nowhere. Like, he kind of plays no position, but could play all the positions. He's like, athletically, he should go number two. I'm like, behind El Magic, Bargnani?

I was a big LaMarcus Aldridge guy that year, so it was a win for me, at least for that. But I talked myself into Tyrus that he was going to play basketball. Like, again, there's a pattern here. These guys that I think can do everything and ultimately do nothing. He just couldn't shoot. Like, if you can't shoot and you can't play with the ball in your hands and then you don't do any of the other stuff.

And I think he was a bit of a prickly cat on top of everything else. You know, it's like Mac Jones. Like, dude, you have to be a little bit better to be mad at everybody. How about the Mac Jones stuff? You get Gronkowski coming out now. I'd love to know what Saban said to Belichick. Because for me on that, like, Bill had been just cycling through bad plan after bad plan. And then it's like, so you desperately need a quarterback.

And now you're going to take, what, the fifth one that's left? How does it feel being Mac Jones knowing that you're the guy that is going to wind up shipping Bill Belichick out of New England? Right? That sucks. He's probably not opening uh an ale house on boylston no no sam adams all right you got one more i got one more and we'll be uh well we talked about lamar and mahomes i was a little bit low the sad part is i was looking through this today on the flight in some of my best hits were guys that i thought were going to suck in the league

and wound up sucking. And, like, all the time you put in, like, watching every single throw for a quarterback for three years and all this stuff, you want to like the guy. You want, you know, like, and then you get on television with Kuyper and he's got his, you know, his sunglasses on 3 o'clock in the afternoon and his hair's back like a, you know, looks like a raven. He's from Baltimore. He's, like, looks like a raven. He's from Baltimore.

He's dressed like a raven, and he's yelling at me. With Clawson, with Jimmy Clawson, he actually said, like right before the draft, he's screaming at me. Meanwhile, I'm not at the point where I'm even on the draft coverage. So it was like his parting shot to me. You weren't even on the show. On like 6 p.m. SportsCenter right before the actual show starts, and I'm like back in Bristol.

They're at the site. They're down in New York City. He's like like i'm telling you what mcshay you're wrong on jimmy clausen if he doesn't turn out to be a great player in the first three years i'm gonna retire well here we are and i couldn't say anything back though we got three two one onto the draft show that's a bad move right to the lock but yeah like yeah, like Tim Tebow, Jimmy Clawson, Brady Quinn. By the way, did I ever tell you the Brady Quinn story?

No, but the good-looking quarterback blind spot thing has been debunked. Thank you. If you had said you liked all those guys, I'd be like, there's a pattern.

Brady Quinn's sister threatened to slap me when we were at the ESPYs one day because I had said so many bad things. That started off different. Paxton Lynch, E.J. Manuel, Brandon Whedon, Daniel Jones. These are all the guys that Kuyper liked that I didn't like.

But it's like I'm not proud of it. It's like I'm tearing down these people. I'm with you on that because I think I watch enough on Saturday that every now and then there will be somebody ramped up and it will be like I can see him be a third, fourth round guy. And I'm like, Oh my God, do you not have cable? You know? So like, I think it's a coin flip with all the guys in the first round. I'm more lost than ever. All right. My last one, cause this one really hurts. If you had told me that I would like Wiseman more than the guy who is now my current favorite player in the NBA, Anthony Edwards,

I was going to be surprised. Now look, when I watched Wiseman, I go, don't do this. He's played three games. One were against the two high school teams in the Oregon game. There's not enough to go on, but the way he moved when he wasn't thinking was so special. But then I was like, when he has to think there's a bit of a, it's almost like bad dial-up. And I go, you've seen this before. You've seen this before. But the biggest miss wasn't just being wrong about Wiseman. It was that I didn't understand Anthony Edwards, the person. I didn't understand the personality. I called down to Georgia.

I was like, what do I need to know? And they were like, he's a motherfucker. And I was like, this guy's lying to me. He just, because I was like, he doesn't, like, he can't shoot. He takes awful shots. He tries to out-athlete everybody. And the lesson in that is that, yeah, the rest of the team wasn't good. Georgia wasn't in that is that yeah the rest of the team wasn't good it was georgia wasn't bad because of him the rest of the team was terrible he knew they

were terrible and he just decided i'm going to try to do it on my own and he's not one of those dynamic scorers who wants to do it on his own and now he's my favorite player in the league and i actually like the guy that's going to be in the g league more than him four years ago attaboy at least i'm not alone. Yeah, well look, at least I wanted to admit that to you. Alright, let's just reset here. Thanks to Todd.

This is my guy. And we'll bring out the boys here. Let me just grab a laptop and get the emails queued up. You want details? Bye. I drive a Ferrari, 355 cabriolet. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you could possibly imagine.

And best of all, kids, I am liquid. So, now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required. There he is, folks. Do you guys remember that Tommy Bahama remark he made to open the show? Looks good on you. I know. You guys got here last night, huh?

We did. Yeah. Shouldn't be alone in Vegas. It was so bad today, I took a bath. I took a bath in my hotel room. Not the figurative lost a bunch of money, which I also did. He didn't leave his hotel for like 24 hours he just stayed in the hotel we're at the mirage he just stayed there uh first time leaving the

mirage today yeah we need to get to the questions at some point but i have a few of my own uh you were here by yourself yeah i just i like to get places early so i forgot that i was going to vegas so i stepped off the plane at like 9 a.m. yesterday and was just alone. And then you took a bath today. Yeah. When's the last time you took a bath? 2018 in Cleveland. It was for the finals.

I was in the penthouse hotel room because something got messed up. But before that, it had been like 10 years. And I forgot about water displacement so i filled it up to the top and just got in and like a me amount of water hit the ground and i just let it sit there and probably 20 minutes later like the guys came knocking like hey we've got a massive leak up here i was like oh i'm sorry um so but that was the last time i took a bath before not a huge bath guy average one every what that'd be what every six years yeah yeah i don't fit in like apartment size baths i made oh yeah i don't tell bath you know i have so many other i didn't know about any of this uh you know what let's just not ask about any of it. Is that all right? Yeah. We got questions and stuff. All right.

You already made it. This is Saruti, by the way. His lovely wife is in. Thank you. Oh, this will be a good one because you guys both live with women. Nice. All right. Girlfriend move and procedures.

Gentlemen of the Alliance. 28, 5, 10, 180. Adult league soccer player with minimal gym stats. Although I've started going the past few months, pickup comp is Trey Burke with a lower field goal percentage in the paint. That's not good. My girlfriend, also 28, and I've been together for almost a year. The topic of her moving in in 2024 has been thrown around informally. This impending move-in has become a topic of conversation between my friends and I.

This is the first serious relationship I've had. The main concern is that she's lived at home since college and not moved out at any point. While I believe this is mostly due to her working a lower paying job, which she loves, the fact that she hasn't moved in with her sister, friends, or anyone else the past seven years is something I, as an only child, find odd. I'm independent and enjoy being alone, but also feel ready for her to move in at some point in the future. She discussed early on in our relationship possibly moving in with her sister who owns a house, but a recent inquiry into that possibility led her to saying that she, quote, hadn't thought about it recently. This leads me to think she would only move out if it would be to live with me at this point.

What's the best way to approach the situation? Does this seem like a warning flag to any of you guys? Open to any and all feedback on how to approach this. It doesn't seem like it's that big of a deal especially if she's italian right i mean that's it's like what i ask it's like how you go like it's like how hot is she when we're reading something i'm yeah because that's usually like is he italian could that explain the strange behavior and i think i think this one if she is it would make sense what are you saying dude i'm saying you guys stay at home until it's like you know you should you know that's just what happens look at look at tommy devito that's totally normal

and this is all because of tommy devito you think if she's italian a lot of america was like what the fuck that's so crazy and then a lot of america was also like yeah i know like he hasn't found the one yet that's why he's still at home that sounded like a chicken cutlet situation more than it was a lack. I mean, if you're the quarterback of the giants, you're probably going to meet a few women. Yeah.

That's usually historically how that position works. What, what about you? What, from the beginning, how I moved in? Well, not your whole life story,

but I guess the Italian part, I don't know. I don't know that being Italian, it didn't need to do with it. I mean, I hate to, no, I'm not saying all Italians are bad.

No, I'm just saying, I'm just bad no i'm just saying i'm just saying i'm just saying it's it sometimes comes with that culture where they just kind of kick it at home yeah until the next thing happens yeah i think uh you know there is like a you know your mom's sunday gravy you like to go home and you just cut out the middleman by just never moving out that's pretty great i didn't do that i moved out i lived i did live at home when i was working at espn scp and riscilla days we're bringing a full circle here i lived at home during that and i was dating it was kind of awkward um but then when we moved in together i was i was living on my own she was also we were both in west hartford good spot so i don't know i do think it is a little bit of a red

flag like i don't know she's kind of pushing in that direction she's waiting for you to make a move look i think there's so many other red flags that would be higher than this one having no friends would be way worse than having no roommates, historically. Like, that's always kind of the thing. Like, you don't have one person that you hang out with. You've never been invited to a wedding in your 35. These are bad things.

No offense if none of you are north of 35. Kyle, you just went to your... Kyle's been to, like, one wedding in his life. I was 28, so not 35. Yeah, but I know your crew. Yeah, yeah. That's not... They're not getting married.

I don't know. You're salt of the earth. I've been invited to a couple coming home parties. Anyway. Yeah, right. He got invited to those, so that's a good sign. I think this guy's overthinking it a little bit, and he is...

Is there a bit of an only child angle where he told on himself a little bit, where he's thinking, hey, everything's not going to actually go my way this time lenny kravitz uh do you think do you think i i this isn't really that big of a deal i think he's overthinking this one and here's the deal she moves in and you don't like each other you're not married it's just a lease and you'll probably get hosed on some transaction later on but better than in front of a judge yeah i think you you just want to do maybe a couple back-to-back sleepovers. Not to say that hasn't happened, but if that's what he's worried about,

is like, how's it going to happen when she's like... Why can't you just, like, soft launch it? Like a restaurant that's not ready with a full menu. Hey, why don't you stay here for a few weeks? Yeah, don't move your stuff out. Yeah, but stay here. Exactly. There you go. Don't break your lease with your parents. Okay, what's up, guys?

Six foot, 180, huge right arm from holding my children. I will say, my wife is shaking her head now. It has gotten tough. The left arm is feeling good. All right, let's just bring it to the audience. Show of hands, people that think holding a baby makes one arm stronger than the other all right and opposed yeah yeah well that guy's core is balanced that's great uh all right standing room etiquette what's

up guys six one 180 huge right arm already said that rossillo recently caught a bean team game i like that in the standing room only section when i overheard guy on my left five five important to the story five foot five saying he wishes he could strike up a conversation with the girl on my right i let him know shooters have to shoot and step back in to let him take his chance well that that there's no way this goes right i'm still i'm still a little thrown off that i read the intro twice all right after striking out horribly he tried to move back to my left however two guys over 6-3 250 took his spot so he went to slide into the side hit on a girl at the game also at 5-5 she says. He goes back to original spot.

Two dudes, two tight ends are in his way. He was pissed and aggressively let the guys know they need to move. I was fine since I could see over him anyway, but wanted to see where this altercation went. I quickly realized they needed to intervene after a small guy told them, quote, I know karate and will fuck you up. Question for the guy. Should I have told the guy he was fine standing in front of me leaving out that it was due to his stature should i have been on his side and try to get the guys to move or should i've sat back to watch the whole thing go down ps one of the guys ended up hooking up with the girl that was the girl the guy was hitting on oof that's a talk

hope they won the game. That's a tough night out. So the 6'1 guy is like basically he could have gone to the 5'5 guy and be like, hey, I think once you say the karate line out loud to people in a public setting, no one should have your back on anything. Fucking bagel boss at that point, right? Yeah, right. That guy towers over the bagel guy.

Yeah, yeah. But still, it's the same. Everyone's like, what did you just say? Although the bagel guy, I kind of got where he was everyone's like what did you just say although the bagel guy iconic got where he was coming from i mean he was clearly and what which part that was that was a boiling of like yeah you know that guy online all the time right say stuff about me that's tough yeah and the funny thing is he looks exactly like somebody i know did you let that guy know no no i no. I was like, hey, you look kind of like the bagel guy.

Like, oh, sweet. Thanks, man. That's not a guy you want to look like. No, no, not at all. Yeah. I think I can't get past the karate line. If you say the karate line, I'm never going to be like, hey, man, why don't we hang out more? And do you say karate like or is that like an overarching

thing? Like is like is there actually a karate? Is there there is a karate like or is that like an overarching thing like it's like is there actually a karate is there there is a correct it's not like a bunch of different stuff thanks thanks guy well my question would be though like when when someone says hey i'm gonna fight i know karate like do people like it's one thing you've been doing taekwondo or you're a boxing guy you're an mma guy marcus is raising his hand for some reason uh Do you... You took karate for 15 years? What, did you just start chopping people? I'm not afraid of you. It definitely helps.

Oh. I think most disciplines are going to lose to 4-on-1, although we've already covered this topic. Have you ever, before you were about to fight, say, hold on, I know karate? I don't think anybody that's actually tough would say, hold on, are you aware of my disciplines? Are you sure you want to do this?

Yeah, are you sure you want to do this? Because I think I'd be like, now I'm definitely sure. You're messing with a purple belt? Right. Look, this guy's night sucked. And I think that's worth a comment. Much like the bagel guy, it wasn't about the other guys. It was about the girl.

It was about everything else. And who knows? Maybe he had the Kings under. And for that guy, it's like Vegas. Only gamble what you can lose. You gambled on the space you lost the space and now you have to spend a little time fixing it and you don't get it back you don't get it back and look it's no offense but like if you're buying a standing room ticket

it's a free-for-all nobody nobody is ever in the history standing room and like yeah no definitely go hit on somebody then come back and we'll give you the spot. Yeah. Fives. How that works. Okay. Um, strip club etiquette fitting. Anything, uh, anything to add from last night? Oh, I'm super uncomfortable in strip clubs.

I don't, I try not to go there. Okay. Uh, you want to elaborate? No, I just, I don't know. I think the last one I was at like new year's Eve and I was like i can't believe i'm here and i don't know i don't i don't like it i think it's

normally when the like the waitresses come up and talk to me i'm like am i supposed to pay you for talking to me because i don't want to do that and i'm not spending any money really i feel like this is a ripoff i don't know it's like i don't belong i'm always like the ricky bobby like i don't know what to do with my hands like not that not that I'm going to get handsy. Sure. So I just start like, my friends always bust me. I'll start like asking questions

and be like, so where are you from? Because I'm uncomfortable with the silence. And I just like, I don't know. What am I supposed to do? I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I don't want this. So yeah, I'm bad as well. There you go.

Yeah. I mean, sometimes you just be like, hey, this isn't going to go anywhere. Yeah. Like, I'm not a, I'm not a backroom guy. Magic game. I don't care. Just leave me alone. Like, there's not a ton to do in hartford and they serve late

uh all right here we go five nine twenty four one sixty casual jim gore shorter andrew harrison wow it's going way back where's our kentucky guy um i have a friend dating back to middle school let's call him drew who i've always been super tight with and consider his family as my own in recent years i've grown apart from drew both because we haven't lived near each other since high school ended and also because i went up to college while he went straight into the workforce other interests are different also maturity gap between the two of us due to not due to educational status there's been honestly uh that since we've met so he's like i've dominated him smarts wise since the early days.

Awkward things I've managed to make new friends throughout my time in college while Drew has struggled to do so. This has caused a situation which Drew considers

me his closest friend while I feel like the super tight bond ran its course a while ago. Yeah, it always sucks when you're the rival. It's kind of like the college football thing.

It's like, you're not even our rival. It's like, you're not even my number one friend, dude. You're like number six. We don't think about you. Yeah i'm your one your rankings are off all right so i go on my way to see him when i'm home from time to time because one he helped me

out through some tough times in high school and i feel like i owe it to him boy would he be thrilled to know about this assessment of the friendship none of my other college friends live in my hometown so it's not like i'm trying to see anyone else this despite the fact that drew is a niche hobby that i'm only happy to indulge in because i see this person really all right so maybe i don't know rc cars i don't know what we're doing here recently there was somebody let's call him jason at drew's work that introduced him to strip clubs around six months ago up until six months ago drew never went out and hardly ever drank i on the other hand drink uh since i started college and go out two to three weeks to various bars oh every two to three weeks various bars not one bar for two or three weeks to various bars. Oh, every two to three weeks to various bars, not one bar for two or three weeks.

That'd be pretty aggressive. Sports bars, we got it. I've never been to a strip club and frankly don't want to for a variety of reasons, an exception of friends' bachelor party whenever that time comes. But for Drew, I'm happy he's loosened up, even if it's not my place of choice.

Now comes the issue. Drew and Jason had a major tip three to four months ago and don't talk to each other anymore so now i'm back to being his only close friend drew however still wants to go to the strip club and doesn't want to go by himself that's actually kind of good that he knows that solo like oh drew's here again it's we're not open yet drew uh so he's been wanting us to go with him last time i came home me and drew were hanging out and some of the time i wanted to go back to my parents house and sleep and call it a night and he would not stop insisting on going to the strip club a few blocks away he kept it up for

30 minutes but i held my ground got home even though the whole ordeal made both of us annoyed as fuck at each other ever since he always brings it up calls to pressure me and calls me a wimp about the whole thing i've i internally have just tossed and turned on whose side i'm on through this entire email uh jews motivation for wanting to do the strip club as opposed to the bar is that he's had luck with talking to women i want to sell that guy 15 years of karate lessons because because what the fuck uh massive error bad luck talking with women i thought he meant yeah i was like they usually are as we've just covered pretty friendly when you walk in um but in the non-paying deals he's had bad luck talking to women our emailer says the same for him but that's another

email at least the strip club he feels connected to women there because they want his money. So he does like the attention, which is kind of the whole fucking point of the industry. How should I handle this? Am I being a wuss about it? Should I give in? Look, anybody that's ever gone through a weird social phase, you know, like, I've always been pretty popular, so no.

No, like when I moved to high school and I transferred in, it was like a weird deal. And then I've had different times that you move to a new town and whatever, but like, you know how it, whether it is you or it's a, it's a sibling or somebody you're close to, you just know, like in certain, certain ways, socially, there's a bit more of a hangup and maybe it's just as simple as them being shy and it's not other, some massive diagnosis. Um, I'm actually in favor of, of people kind of being like, Hey, this is something I kind of like doing now. Strip club's a bit aggressive, but I'm not like anti somebody that normally doesn't have an outgoing personality, then trying to do something to be outgoing.

But if you guys are, how old are you again? If you guys, well, are you again if you guys well you're 24 so that makes sense but even at 24 if somebody's super strip club guy and you're like i kind of don't want to go that's up to him to understand that like you don't want to go like i if you don't want to be there it's not fun and he's rolling in as a local doing what thinking he's actually going to go on a date with one of them in two years of course not yeah guess who's not going to be the weird guy in that equation the guy who doesn't want to go to the strip club on a regular basis so i think you're kind of fine and just let your friend be like if he wants to go solo i guess i

know he doesn't like doing that but he's got to learn because it's not up to you to like hold this guy's hand at the strip club because he wants to go so bad. Yeah, strip club guy, every single one of them, you give them an inch, they take a mile. So you cannot, you can't even be like, well, you can't even check your watch and see what time it is. It just has to be straight no because if that guy sees an inch of daylight, he's going to try to go and run it through that wall.

Yeah, it's an ask every time. Should we all come on? And then he'll lay low for like two hours and then try to hit you when you had a couple drinks. It's like, no, dude. So you have to just, you have to be very firm. No with strip club guys. Yeah, I don't think there's really much meat on that bone other than that.

I don't like imagine he will. I guarantee you at 24 at like 30, he'll go. I can't believe I used to call you a wuss for not wanting to go. I don't know. You think those guys change? Sometimes they just kind of that's kind of who they are. Guys that love strip clubs love strip clubs, though. But sometimes it's as simple as like, hey, it's still open.

All right. Whatever. All right. Here's a quick one, a technical one. What's going on with the transitions between segments and commercials on the pod? You're on the spot. What is there? What is going on?

Just saying you need to tighten it up. I've heard. It's not my deal anymore, guys. I have heard people don't love the swoosh transition. And I did read that somebody thinks we're in 2007 using that transition as a PowerPoint presentation. Which I disagree with. I mean, we could just go straight to the commercial. I love the whoosh. You guys show of hands for the whoosh.

All right, there we go. Oh, that was actually not as many as I hoped for. I don't know. It was a Kyle thing. I just don't want to change it. It was actually the same one that was on Bill's pod, and when Ryan came over, I was like, Ryan's not going to want to hear that.

That's the most important whoosh we have, so I was like, I'll give it to Ryan. I really love that. I've heard the whoosh. I think it's funny because it's like a star wipe on an 80s sitcom. We're not trying to reinvent the wheel here. We're going to break, man. I don't know what to do.

You know what? Let's have somebody voice over something different that's so weird. Should we just have random James Harden lines like we've been doing at the end of the pod? It should just be a moan. It should be the noise Kyle makes when he first gets into the bathtub in 2029. We should just have Kyle's breathing take us into break. That's a whoosh of sorts.

By the way, didn't happen when I was running the show, so. No, we can't replace Kyle, obviously, so we're trying, man. I don't know. Thanks. We have a few, like, more Friday feedback ones here, so I'm not quite sure. Um, all right, we'll do two more of these and we'll end on a high note because there's another one that's kind of comes full circle, uh, that I think is, is least important to get everybody up to date on. Uh, all right, here's a good one. Cause I think Kyle, you actually, these could be your expertise.

Six, one, two Oh five average at everything in the weight room, but can hit a golf ball. Three, your expertise. 6'1", 205, averaging everything in the weight room, but can hit a golf ball 310. Sweet. Player comp, poor man's Rodney Stuckey. Kind of liked him. Kind of liked him for a little while. That area of the crowd, really liked it. Recent issues come up. After living in my

condo for over a year, someone recently began playing super loud music between 1 and 4 a.m. on obscure weeknights. Most annoying part is that even if you dampen the noise, you can still feel it. The first couple of nights I let it slide, but recently it's become louder and louder and has become a source of anger rather than annoyance,

even to the point that I've gone outside and walked the complex trying to find who was playing it and either leave a note or knock on the door. Yet despite going, essentially door to door, cannot find the source when outside, have reached out to the HOA, and they are no help. Shocker. Would you reach cannot find the source, went outside, have reached out to the HOA, and they are no help. Shocker. Would you reach out to the police?

Or I would reach out to the police, but I can't imagine they're going to be much help because I've gone through the whole complex and could not pinpoint the location. Wanted to reach out and see if someone who's an expert with HOAs in real estate would handle this. Experts, aggressive. I just have my complaints.

I have my issues in both departments. Anything, Kyle? How loud could it be if you can't even figure out where this is coming from i feel like everyone that you're trying it's like everyone's gonna think you're a dick if you're like well i don't know where it is but i hear it like i don't i don't i mean i understand what you're saying also i've i'm not i'm not so precious about my neighbors like one to four a.m though i mean i sleep at three i sleep weeknights yeah i don't i think it would be fine. I can go to sleep, though.

I can go back there and go to sleep. I was thinking about doing it while you were doing the long question and answer. I was like, could I? Wow. No, no, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. So it was a little long is what you're saying? I just, I just, I'm not going to be the guy that, you know, tries to knock on doors for this.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but is this perhaps where Facebook community comes in for an hoa i was gonna say can you ask around do you have no other do you not know anyone else is there equipment is there like spy equipment you could just put on headphones and like have one of those things you're just sort of pinpointing the sound waves that'd be fun to order sure if it works like is it like those ghost finder shows but just for the music i guess some guy did you see the Ghost Finder where the guy was convinced it was making him drink whiskey? I saw a clip of that. Did you see that clip? That was great.

I just wish those shows would be like, none of this is real. I thought Plane Repo was real. I was heartbroken when I found out that Plane Repo was not real. I mean, none of those shows are real. I'm not telling you Santa Claus. Why are you looking at me like that? I watched like nine episodes of it. Do you know how dangerous Plane Repo would actually be?

I was glued to the TV. I was like, how do they keep getting away with this? Reenactments. I'm coming back next season. All right, last one. Remember when we talked about the roofing nail situation? Yes. Right?

So to catch everybody up on that, we had somebody email in just a recent show where he was like, my neighbor's a dick. There was a tree that fell and it got flooded and all these different things. And they were refinishing the roof because the tree that had fallen, but all these other things that happened with the neighbor were clearly this neighbor. He'd given us real solid, hard evidence that this neighbor wasn't the sweetest time. And it appeared that his son and another neighbor's kid may have been actually the ones that put the roofing nails underneath his trucks tire it was repaired but then the guy was

going on and on however we have new evidence this is maybe a first. Unless I deleted it. Don't worry. I know how to get back in. All right. This is bad. This is bad because I'm going to not say this part in the segment, but it may check out. Hi, guys.

At my apex, I was often compared to a poor man's michael doliac during the 97 98 utah tournament run i love that team it's a good team dick the neighbor might in fact be a dick but let me tell you the more accurate story of junior in the deflated tires after hearing the story of the emailer asking whether he needed to pay his awful neighbor dick the 90 bucks because his son placed roofing nails behind the neighbor's tires i could not help but wonder if i live in the same neighborhood about a month ago our neighborhood had a rash of postings on facebook and the next door app asking about flat tires with roofing nails in them after some digging it was discovered that a young male punk was purposely placing roofing nails behind tires and it happened more

than once to further substantiate my wonders a home in the neighborhood did have a tree fall on the house. The emailer did mention a tree fall on their house. If this is the same neighborhood, what the emailer failed to mention is that his son, let's call him Junior, also placed roofing nails behind the tires of two other neighbors. In total, Junior and his wild mate get three total homes with roofing nails i live in a midwestern town with a sensible and simple life this fellow midwesterner needs to corral his wild banshee of a son and reimbursed not only dick but the three other homes thank you for sharing another perspective to further liven up the neighborhood message boards.

Unbelievable. I believe him, though. I believe him. Could it be that some emailers are lying to us? No. They wouldn't do that to us, would they? It's a five Fridays. Am I right?

I don't like to believe that. I don't know. There's a lot of specifics in there. I guess he could have used all the evidence he used in there. You could have just found out from the original email, though. He could have totally made that up both emails had the same last name different first names oh shit yeah all right uh look thank you so much for doing this we'll do the meet and greet downstairs i know it was late um because we were lining it up because the f1 stuff so uh again it means a lot that you would take the time to come out and do this.

So thanks to Kyle. Thanks to Steve. Thanks to Elizabeth. Thanks to Salesforce. And we'll be downstairs in a minute to hang out and get pictures, all right? So thank you. Yeah. Yeah.

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