The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Michael Vick on Learning Offensive Systems. Plus, NFL Week 4 Awards, Lakers-Heat, and a CFB Check-in

Episode Date: October 5, 2020

Russillo gives out his NFL awards for Week 4 before sharing some thoughts on Lakers-Heat Game 3. Then he talks with Fox NFL analyst Michael Vick about QBs learning a new “system," learning Andy Reid’s system in Philadelphia, Patrick Mahomes thriving in that system in Kansas City, the Browns getting Odell Beckham Jr. some opportunities on the field, the Patriots being able to remain competitive through three games with Cam Newton, and more. Then Ryen gives a quick college football update before answering some listener-submitted Life Advice questions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

hey what's up i am fired up this is a complete this is a five tool podcast today we have a bunch of things we're going to get to mike vick is our guest i'm going to talk about andy reed's offense learning new offenses and also trying to keep demanding receivers happy. I'm going to do a little bit of a college football roundup now a couple more weeks into the season. I'm still not sure what any of this is, but I'm going to talk about it anyway. Game three, a little recap, their win for your. How about your heat now, Miami? And then I'm going to get to the NFL awards right off the top. So today's episode that is absolutely loaded. The Ryan Russillo podcast on the Ringer Podcast Network is brought to you by State Farm. Getting great car and home insurance from State Farm at a surprisingly great rate.

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shout out to one number here. Dak Prescott, by the way. Now he has 1,690 passing yards through four games. The most in NFL history through four games. The second most was Kurt Warner with the 2,000 Rams where he was at 1,557

yards. So we're talking over 100 yards ahead of Kurt Warner's pace. Greatest show on turf 20 years ago. There's a few reasons why offense is out of control. By the way, offense going into this past weekend, averaging just under 25 points per game. That's 16% better than just a year ago, 22% higher during the average of the previous two decades, and that is because offensive holding has been cut dramatically in half. I think the numbers are floating somewhere around 50%

lower, and I guess it's a league mandate. So if you go around and research, and I know guys have mentioned it here or there, but it's absurd. We have no holding, and that means, or very few holding calls, and that means offenses are out of control. But Dak has been out of control because the team is giving up a million points. Let's review some history here. So Dallas has now allowed after a 49, 38 loss to the Browns where the Browns actually ran it for 307 yards, worst in Dallas history. Um, I believe these are some of the most ridiculous Cleveland numbers because they're, they're running the football. Like this isn't just Baker. They're moving Baker around. They're rolling them out. They're doing some things. They, they look like, I mean, Baker looks like a different guy, but this isn't Baker just lighting up defenses. They have balance and they're

actually using Odell Beckham Jr. Shocking development. So this defense, how bad is it? It's this bad. They've allowed 36.5 points per game, which would project is the single worst scoring defense in team history. And it's almost 10 points worse than their other worst defense as far as scoring per game. Now I imagine an average out of here a little bit, but all the goodwill after the Atlanta comeback, it doesn't really mean anything because Dallas is now one in three, a good loss to the Rams.

I think we'd like the Rams, um, that Falcons come back. Great. The Seahawks, like some of these games, they look close. Like it'll be misleading for weeks from now.

If Dallas puts together a little stretch of people say, well, you know, they played the Seahawks to one score game and they were close there with the Browns late. I don't know. Look, and I'm not going anti-DAC by any means.

And he's putting up huge, huge numbers, but it is a defensive problem first. I mean, there should be no time spent on what's do what's DAC doing wrong. I did that last week, but I mean, this is out of control with how bad they've been. Mike McCarthy said afterwards, we're not going to be a one-call defense. And talking about Mike Nolan, the D coordinator, who I guess hasn't been a coordinator in six years.

But here's the thing as a non-football guy's observation. Why wouldn't you want to make the defense a little bit simpler? They've benched some guys in the secondary. Jalen Smith, the linebacker, is getting a lot of the criticism. The edge guys aren't doing necessarily that much. And yet, when you look at Dallas is too deep, you go, look at all this talent. This team should not be one and three. And the fact is that they're still in the NFC East. And I say that as if there was any debate on whether or not they could move to another division. I don't believe that'll happen. You can go ahead and report that. But the point is that division

is so, so bad that you're still kind of alive despite being one and three. But that defense is terrible. And I would think you would want, with a new staff and a new system and a bunch of new pieces on that side of the football, that you'd want to make things a little bit simpler. Because whatever they're doing now isn't working. Okay, the Drew bled so much he needed a transfusion award. That goes to Billills quarterback Josh Allen. Now, Josh Allen is off to the best QB start for a Bills QB since Drew Bledsoe in 2002, and that's why he gets the award.

Bledsoe in 2002 had 10 touchdowns, two picks the first four games that season. Now let's hope Josh Allen finishes out a little bit better. 14 touchdowns with 13 picks the rest of the way. But at four games in, the Bills are an undefeated team, an undefeated team since 2002 divisional realignment. 44 of the 53 teams that went 4-0 to start the season made the playoffs. By the way, on the other side of Houston, Texas, 0-4. The 56 teams that have started 0-4 since the 0-2 realignment,

zero of those 56 teams have started 0-4 and made the playoffs. Josh Allen, I still think, is a very interesting study for one very specific reason, and that is he's been great this year and much better than who he's been in previous years. And look, if I were to say to you, hey, because there's been resistance by this from Bills fans, and I get it, your guy got beat up on publicly. I do think some of the criticisms were fair, but he's not the same guy.

Yet Bills fans want people to think that he's always been this guy and he just hasn't. Here's a blind QB resume. This quarterback played in 2019. His QB rating was behind Daniel Jones and tied with Joe Flacco. He was 24th in QBR. He was 25th in yards per attempt. He was last in completion percentage. He was 30th in yards per game. He had the fifth lowest third down passes attempted, and his average yards to stick was third worse. But guess what? Josh Allen isn't any of those things now. He's been incredible. Basically, any stat you look at, he's probably even higher. I mean, he's up there with Mahomes and Lamar and Aaron Rodgers with some of these guys to start this season.

So he's off to a great start. And let's hope it goes a lot better for Josh Allen than it did for Drew. Bled so much he needed a transfusion the rest of the way. Award number three. This is the you can't hum with your nose being held. Did you know that, Kyle? No, but it makes sense. Does it make sense?

Do you want to try it? Yeah, it blows your mind. Yeah, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. It's a little known fact. Another little known fact, why you're like, wait a minute, what does this have to do with anything? It's that the Indianapolis Colts defense may be incredible. From Albert

Breer, si.com, check out these stats right now after another win for the Colts, and we'll get to their schedule. Yes, hold on. Total yards defensively first. Yards per play first. Rushing yards allowed per game fourth. Rushing yards per play sixth. Passing yards per game first. Passing yards per play first. Interception percentage first First sack percentage. Seventh first downs game allowed first third down efficiency against first points per game. First. Yes. They lost to the Jags in week one. Yes. They limited Minnesota to 11 points. The Jets seven and the bears 11. And by the way, I'm telling you right now, Trubisky is getting another start with Nick Foles being healthy. I sent that out to a Bears fan.

He said, absolutely not. I go, hey, and this Bears fan's listening to this podcast. He knows who I am. I'm not going to bring up his name for political reasons, but I'm just saying, even though the Colts defense has played this schedule, these stats have been incredible. And I just think if you were to say,

hey, you know who's had a great defense so far? The Colts. I don't know that a lot of people would know that and i know some of you right now are probably in the car trying to hum holding your nose i had some other little known facts did you know that roller coasters kyle were invented to prevent people from partaking in sinful acts late 1800s too many horror houses oh sorry brothels um and saloons so a guy decided to invent roller coasters to distract people get your kicks somewhere else yeah wow yeah look that's what they were called in the late 1800s we'll say brothels so let's just be let's just be up to date on the terminology here um i was researching a bunch of little known facts and i felt like the best one there was the the deal. So there you go.

Okay, two more awards. What's wrong with your Rocket Scientist Award? That goes to Matt Patricia, now in his third season with the Detroit Lions. Lions football. Patricia in his first year, 6-10. Last year, 3-12. And now 1-3. They were up 14-0 on the Saints.

They gave up 35 straight points, losing to New Orleans, who, by the way, you were like, wait, are the Saints going to be 1-3? Now they get Michael Thomas back to 2-2. They've had, I think, a tough schedule to start the season. I don't think there's any debate about that whatsoever. You throw in Tampa, the win, Green Bay loss, the loss in Las Vegas, where I thought the Raiders

actually played pretty well in that game. I don't know if people are off the Raiders now. A lot of drafts being saved and saying, hey, how about all that heckling of Gruden and Mike Mayock? What's up now? And then guess what? They've lost a couple games since then, but I still think the Raiders probably doing better than people thought they would when they kind of became a national punchline there for a little bit. But back to the Lions and Matt Patricia. We know that he's a rocket scientist because it's brought up every freaking broadcast. The pencil he doesn't use that's tucked into his hat. Shout out for all the math and being smart, but here's some bad math if you're a rocket scientist. The Lions, I'm going to read this to you twice because I couldn't believe it when I saw it. The Lions are now seven, eight, and one

in the last three seasons went up by 10 points. Okay. So that means since Patricia started 2018, three plus seasons. So not three full ones. I can't believe they've been up double digits, 16 times, by the way, but they are seven, eight, and one with a double digit or more lead. That's impossible to compare that to something else. It's ridiculous. And no one should really compare anything to the chiefs because it's that special. Side note, Kyle, I'd like to do this. Jealousy rankings. I think the Chiefs have to be up there in the last 20 years.

How jealous you are as a fan base of the Chiefs fan base, getting to watch what Mahomes is, what this offense can do, and how horrifying it is at times. I think it's right there with the Warriors. Maybe a little behind. Need more success to catch them. But it's early 2000s Lakers-type stuff, and the Lakers stuff is probably right there with the Warriors, maybe a little behind, need more success to catch them, but it's early 2000s Lakers type stuff. And the Lakers stuff is probably right there with the Warriors too.

There aren't five teams in any of the professional sports in the last 20 years that would be ahead of the jealousy that I think most NFL fans should have of Chiefs fans getting to watch this stuff. Because the Chiefs are actually, if you look at the other side of this rocket scientist stat here, the Chiefs are 7-5, trailing by 10 points or more. Lions are 7-8-1 with those leads. Okay, and finally, I know people are desperately asking for an update to the Bill Belichick and Tom Brady power rankings coming off of where we were at. You know, I kept Tom ahead of Bill, even with that Raiders win. Brady, five touchdowns. It's going to be hard for Bill to pass Tom,

but if Bill can beat the Chiefs and COVID with Brian Hoyer, I don't have any choice but to put Bill ahead of Tom. But let's hold off, because right now it's incomplete. We're not ready to go. Those are your week four NFL awards. Going to talk with Mike Vick here in a second. Some hoops coming.

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Our surprisingly great player from last week was Odell Beckham Jr. Now you're thinking, wait a minute, why is that surprising? That guy's awesome. Well, it's surprising when you're like surprised that he's that awesome because you realize he went an entire year

with that previous regime going, why is this guy not being used more? Now, he had two carries, but he had the clincher on that reverse, the 50 yard touchdown run. He had two, um, two carries total. So he actually ran it really well. Catches five for 81 yards, but the two touchdowns, the one from Jarvis Landry Cleveland is finally using Jarvis and Odell and this running attack where they went nuts yesterday. It looks like a completely different team, essentially with a lot of the same personnel. And it's not like Baker went crazy against the Cowboys.

He was 19 to 30 for 165, but you could just see with the way they were moving them out. All of it looks different. And it just, it's comical that a coaching staff could have a toy like Odell Beckham Jr. and not know how to use it. So even though I don't always love frustrated receiver who's like so about himself, but in this case, like Odell reminding us of what he's capable of was not surprising that he's this good. It was just a surprise to think, oh, right. That's why everybody freaked out about this guy when he first entered the league outside of LSU.

I want to talk a little NBA finals here. You know, Bill and I will probably figure out a day this week. Either I'm going to go on his. I think I'm due to go on his. But Lakers lose game three. And I got to be honest, have any of you ever watched a playoff series before? And I know those of you that get it do not take this personally because this isn't aimed at you. But I look at, I don't know if it's the broadcast that was selling you on this idea that was

back or Jimmy Butler selling you. And I'm not going to tell anybody to be less confident. Like, hey, Jimmy, you, I don't know, the Lakers may not actually be in trouble. They may have just been up 2-0. My biggest rule ever, I'll repeat it again. You cannot play as desperate when you were up 2-0 as when you were down 0-2. You can't fake that. You can't fake that.

And if you watch the Lakers throughout this postseason, despite this group never doing anything collectively, and much like the Clippers, they seem to not take their opponents that seriously. And whether it was game one against Portland that the Lakers lost and then swept them, losing game one to Houston and actually losing it pretty single-handedly

and then almost blowing a couple leads in that series because they just felt like it had more to do with where LA was at mentally. They beat up on Denver game one, and I think that set the tone. It's like, eh, you know, whatever. And then they gave one game back there. They go up 2-0 against the Miami team, where I think they're less likely to take them seriously

with no bam and draggage than they would have had they been full health. And even in this game, as bad as it was, they get down 13 in the first quarter. Anthony Davis fouled trouble throughout the entire night, so he wasn't very good. Jimmy Butler was incredible, 40-point triple-double. I think the first guy to hit 40 in a finals game without making a three since Shaq like 18 years ago,

I think is the number there. Jimmy was incredible. Jimmy was incredible. Jimmy was incredible. Okay, fine. But what happens is we then want to turn all of this stuff into something more than it is. What does this mean?

Does this mean the Lakers are in trouble? I just don't see it that way. I think they smoked Miami in game four. I just think that they do. I don't think Anthony Davis is going to shrink five inches from game three into game four. And he's probably not going to have the same kind of foul trouble because it's just an oddity in the way something happened. Will the Lakers turn it over what 12 times in the first quarter again, or was it, was it 10? I don't know, whatever it was, they were on pace for 40 at one point. And that's not necessarily the case. Let's look at the rebounding numbers here one more time

because that's always pretty revealing on these matchups. Rebounding numbers, the Lakers actually were only plus 6 when they've been plus 20 in some of these other games. Rebounding a lot of times is straight-up effort. So LeBron was his standard near triple double self the rest of the way. But the team, even late, they went up 91-89. I'm like, wait, they're going to steal this one too. And it looked like they were playing terrible. And then at the very end, I give Miami a ton of credit for fighting them off and Butler finishing and LeBron actually got switched from a couple

of times. I don't think LeBron defensively, he's certainly not where he was. That goes without saying, but Butler was not afraid of him at all. And Tyler Hero, who was terrible through most of the game, had two or three big, big plays at the very end, and they were able to hold off the Lakers. So now the series is a 2-1. But then it turns into with Butler, because he was responding to LeBron, saying, hey, you're in trouble. I don't care that Butler went back.

But then we're all forced to kind of come up with some kind of talking point. It's like, hey, you're in trouble. I don't care that Butler went back, but then we're all forced to kind of come up with some kind of talking point. It's like, well, what is Butler? Is Butler actually a little underrated? I mean, look, if Butler wants to go nuclear on teams and say, I don't want to be here anymore, I mean, is it the team's fault for not figuring it out? So this whole thing has turned into Philadelphia, Chicago, Minnesota. Butler is really good. I'll say it again, though to we have to we have to classify like when you're tweeting out the goat speaks and it's a jimmy butler video i think your goat qualifications are a little too low and now on the other side for rondo who continues to be this

i don't know what it is it's not media creation i don't know but it's it It's not media creation. I don't know. But it's like my theory on, the example that I use is money. If I'm broke my entire 20s, and then I have money in my 40s, and I show up to a high school or college reunion, and I go, see, you guys are wrong about me in my 20s. And they're like, no, you actually were broke. If one of my friends was like, hey, you're broke. And then I have money 10 years later, it doesn't mean that I wasn't broke. And if Rondo, who quit on Boston, who quit on Dallas, who was completely disinterested at moments

with Chicago and New Orleans, who looked unplayable at times in the Lakers, then turns into an incredible asset during the playoffs, that's real. And he can not like play off Rondo, but Rondo's like oblivious to his own reality, which is so weird to me. And this quote that came out of this Jack McMullen piece that was going around yesterday when he was talking to LeBron about his body language, where Rondo said he confronted LeBron

about his body language. LeBron has terrible body language for his teammates. He has basically his entire career. So here's the quote. And Rondo's talking about LeBron's teammates. If they missed four shots in a row and LeBron was making a face, it was crushing to them. He was their Michael Jordan. They didn't want to let him down. But if LeBron said one thing positive to Brandon Ingram or Kyle Kuzma, they immediately were back to their old selves on confronting

LeBron about his body language. Okay, great story, except none of that's even remotely applicable. First of all, LeBron is still doing that. He does it all the time of defensive rotation, like that pistol action that Van Gundy was talking about where the guard brings it up to a screener out in the side. And it's, it's not with bigs. It's like perimeter players. And you're kind of just, you have to make a decision to follow the ball or stay with your guy. LeBron screwed up a bunch of those last night. And then when somebody else makes a bucket, LeBron's body language didn't improve. When I read that quote, I was like, wait, Rondo, did you confront LeBron from your seat when you decided not to sit with Luke Walton during a game last year and thought that it

was the media's fault for bringing all that up? Rondo does the thing. Rondo even said when he was in Boston that he stopped playing defense the last couple seasons. Like, he did it. He said it. There was another quote in the story that said, if you watched him shoot in Chicago, you would have thought he'd gone a

month without making a shot. And yet in practice, he would go like eight for eight, nine for nine, if there was a hundred dollar bill on the line. So Rondo, who, and again, has been incredible for this Lakers team as the playoffs have gone on. All the credit to him. But that other Rondo, the broke 20-year-old Rondo, in the analogy here, also exists. That person is also real. But then as the Lakers are up 2-0, we're like, how can we get a Rondo story out of this?

How can we turn this into something bigger? Where's our, instead of Jimmy Butler was incredible and got Miami a game, and now the series is 2-1, so let's see what happens. No, is Jimmy Butler the GOAT? Is Jimmy Butler actually the guy every team would want? Is Jimmy Butler, like, Jimmy Butler's a lot of great things, but there's also a ceiling on Jimmy Butler. What do the kids say, Kyle? No cap?

I've been told. You were late on that. That's all right, buddy. It's Monday. But, you know, I think there's a cap there. I think been told. You were late on that. That's all right, buddy. It's Monday. But, you know, I think there's a cap there. I think there is. And so Rondo, who gives this absurd quote that isn't even accurate, and then, of course, what happens at the end of game three? 0.7 seconds left. LeBron decides to go into the locker room.

What happened to the body language thing? And Rondo, for the longest time, has been difficult. I remember talking to people when he's coming out of the draft and out of Kentucky. They were like, you know, he's kind of an asshole. Like, wait, what? Like, I haven't heard. I'll hear wingspan. I'll hear bad athlete, bad body.

I'll hear really good shooter when it matters. It was like Rondo out of Kentucky. I was like, OK, that's interesting. out of Kentucky. I was like, okay, that's interesting. So I find myself like on these islands alone, consuming all of this going, why, why is everybody falling for all of this stuff? The day the quote comes out, LeBron leaves the court and he does that not because he's a terrible guy. Cause he isn't LeBron's not a bad guy. He's just not. But he's extremely theatrical. So that is LeBron letting the stage, as he exits the stage, letting the audience know

that I am distancing myself from these people, like he's done so many times in his career. So the body language thing was never corrected because it's always existed and Rondo had nothing to do with it. But then it turns into this great quote, because we're like, how can we figure out a cool storyline when LA's up to, oh, we're like, let's start making up a ton of shit. And this is coming from Rondo, by the way, but it's just so predictable. I'm playing the results and trying to find more and more stories to tell fiction or nonfiction when hours after I read the quote, I'm like, oh, there goes LeBron. And none of this matters.

None of this matters. It doesn't matter that LeBron left. And I have a bigger Lakers thing I'm going to do that's very pro-Lakers that speaks to how all of these little things along the way generally never really matter because I've got the Lakers winning game four and, you know, we shall see. Okay, get to Vic right after this. But this season we know is going to look a little different. Many fans won't be watching in the stadium or bars, but from home. We shall see. Miller Lite actually trolled fans looking for illegal streams

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system. We see Brady doing some different things. We see it with all these younger quarterbacks, especially when there's turnover. So how hard is it, if you can think back to some times where you had different coordinators, different systems, and trying to learn not just the terminology but what kind of offense you were running. Yeah, well, I learned about, I'd say, maybe six different systems from Chip Kelly to Dan Reeves to the West Coast system. And then I got with Andy and had to learn his system. And the Pittsburgh Steelers system overall has been built

over the last 15 years since Ben has been there. It's a tough challenge. And you have to almost, you know, put yourself to sleep at night thinking about, you know, one play or maybe three plays or the breakdown, the whole – all the intricacies in the whole entire play from calling the play to the last man that's in the route combination to check down. It's, you know, it was always funny when I was going through those phases

and having to learn a new offense. Like, my level of focus would just be so intense and on another level that, you know, I could be riding in the car with my kids and I'm thinking about, you know, two jet wide go or, you know, a 33 wham, you know, is it left side, right side? Is it, you know, because I know I'm going to have to execute it in practice the next day. And in NFL, when you learn a new system, you know, you install it one day, you go out and practice it the next.

So either you're going to know it or you're going to get embarrassed. But it's a challenge to the brain, man, and it takes about a good two months to really be able to feel comfortable and go out and execute it. And then I think, you know, I would say most quarterbacks agree versus live action at least four to six months before you can go out there and feel comfortable doing it and like situational football, run no huddle,

you know, run a two-minute drill. So it takes some time. It takes some time. What are the specifics of it? Like I understand like it's probably easy to understand the primary but then does all of that change when you look at the safeties and then you guys are all trying to communicate this stuff like we can think watching like why do they get so much time in between plays but the amount of stuff that you're trying to decipher is actually ridiculous in that

short amount of time yeah yeah well you're trying to absorb a lot of information in a short period of time and at the same time you got to keep your eyes on the play clock and make sure you don't get a delay of game. And then you got to watch the personnel coming in and out because, you know, one play may have, you know, a personnel grouping of three wide receivers and one back. And then there might be another personnel grouping of four receivers and one back. And now you got to know who's coming in, who's going out,

where they got to line up, where they got to line up how they got to line up uh so it's even bigger than just calling a play and knowing it in your in your mind you also got to get to the line of scrimmage and make sure that everybody lines up correctly we used to call it first wide vision in the west coast system your first wide vision is everybody lined up correctly? And that was just one critical thing because, you know, if you've got a two-by-two set, two receivers over here, two receivers over there, and you've got three guys lined up over this way, you've got to redirect.

The clock is ticking. So that's where, you know, you have to be really, you know, just real detailed in, you know, alignment and, you know, spacing and everybody has to understand. So, honestly, it's not just the quarterback having to understand what needs to be done within the framework of the offense. It's the receivers, the running backs, the receiver might be flexed, receiver might be flexed, splits. You know, I mean, the quarterback position, the running back might be flexed, receiver might be flexed, splits. You know, I mean, the quarterback position, it was so fun,

I would say because it was challenging. And, you know, even in college, you know, before I learned how to play quarterback, I used to just sit in the film room and just look at the screen. I mean, and coach talking about defenses and, you know, blitzes. And I don't even really know the plays. I'm trying to learn the plays. So, you know, when I think back to, you know,

how I grew in terms of the quarterback position, like overall, it gives me a great deal of confidence that God blessed me with a little bit of common sense, right? me a great deal of confidence that God blessed me with a little bit of common sense, right? And some football knowledge to be at a process, man. And I'm thankful

for that because without that, I wouldn't have been able to go on the field and execute. So you think about all the talent that I have, not being able to mentally put it together, then, you know, it's probably a position change. Now, I was ready to change my position, not because of a coach,

because I was discouraged, you know. At Virginia Tech? At Virginia Tech, yeah, man. When I got there, Ryan, it was tough, man. It was hard, man. You know, in high school, we didn't go through X's and O's in detail. We didn't, you know, we didn't sharpen, you know, the mind football, you know, football-wise. And from a, you know, a competent standpoint, learning the game.

My coach was a running back growing up, you know. So he played in the National Football League. His name was Tommy Raymond. But he didn't know how to coach the position. He knew enough. So when I got to Tech, I was just behind, and it took about I got there in August. It clicked for me

in December. So it took like three and a half months to learn defenses first. I did it backwards. I learned defenses first, and then I learned the offense that spring. And then I had to compete for a job. So thank God that everything of clicked uh within like seven or eight months so how close were you though what were you going to do be just like a rock ishmael type I mean I mean I could catch like my hands were superb I can catch the rock I could run it yeah I think you can run it

all right you know i don't think i was tough enough to play defense but you know whatever coach would have instructed me to do but it was in my heart to play quarterback other than that it would have never clicked that day yeah that makes sense so you you've talked about this before and i think it's very honest and revealing like as you just mentioned with virginia tech you're probably just watching it being like hey coach just give me the ball like we're going to be fine right and then atlanta like it's just not going to work that way in the nfl but then you get to andy reed you have the second part of your career can you help us understand what the andy

reed system is and what what it evolves into and maybe how it fit you better later on and it clearly looks like as you matured you are more accepting of trying to learn something like this yeah i can i can honestly say this um when i first got uh to india in 2009 um the offense had changed dramatically from what i was accustomed to when i learned the west coast system and these same coaches that I had in between 2004, 2006 worked up on the Marty Morningwig, who was a good friend of Andy's and happened to be my coach in Philadelphia when I got there.

So that version of the West Coast system was different. Like Andy had expanded the whole system until I think what he had created as far as his own concepts and what he thought could beat defenses that was being, you know, put in front of his offices at the time. And it wasn't, you know, it wasn't until about, you know, maybe a month after I got there where I had to step back and step away from him and say, okay, this is not the same West Coast system that I had in Atlanta. This is something totally different.

The texting calls was different. The route concepts was different. And I will say this. So, you know, to break it down, this talent that Andy possessed on his team, the speed, you know, the versatility in Brian Westbrook and Deshaun Jackson, and they just drafted Jeremy Macklin, that made his offenses different. So now, you know, it's not the quick slants and the quick outs and, you know, the quick short passing game slants and the quick outs and, you know,

the quick short passing game that the West Coast system consists of. Now we've got deep shots and more vertical passing game. And that was the start of the evolution right there. And it was based on, you know, the quarterback and the talent that he had. So we watched the Mahomes-Lamar showdown from last week. We got the Chiefs again here. It's not just the times that Mahomes hits Hill and it's a really good segue into what you were talking about faster guys in space expanding kind

of what you can do in this this concept but when you're watching Mahomes what do you see that maybe some of us don't see because it seems almost unfair now at this point all right so what i see is this and because patrick holmes is on his way to greatness like we'll be considering him as one of the greatest of all time when it's all said and done um you know hopefully uh as long as andy want to coach you know patrick will be a success story and even after andy somebody will come in and by that time Patrick will he'll be able to go out and call the game on his own. He'll learn so much from Andy because I know how much I've learned from Andy

just in a short period of time. But this is what makes Patrick Mahomes so special. Aside from all the attributes that he has, all the intangibles and things that he does great Patrick sees the field better than anyone who's playing a position right now. And, listen, I have a great deal of admiration for quarterbacks

all across the league, but, you know, I have to call it like I say. I know, you know, what it takes to make a great passer. I've had coaches in my career, you know, and I think every quarterback in the National Football League right now has great vision. But some just see it a little quicker and can anticipate it a little quicker than others. And it's more so because of, you know, the play calls and the concepts that you're running.

You know, all offenses are different, but Patrick sees things happening before it even happens, and his anticipation is amazing. And that's what sets him apart. And then the fact that he has a strong arm to get the ball anywhere. I mean, just imagine being a defensive guy and you got a ball being thrown on a rope that you don't see every day. You might see it in practice sometimes,

depending on the arm strength of your quarterback. But you don't see this every day. Now you got a guy come out there with on a fastball, and you can't track it. The ball's hitting the receiver before you even get a chance. And at that time, you know, now you're getting discouraged. And, man, I just you know, you, you're getting discouraged and man, I just think his vision and this arm strength, you know,

which all ties together makes him a great quarterback, but his ability to see things before it happens is uncanny. So on the other side of that game and, you know, it ended up being a closer score than it felt. Cause I felt like Kansas city was in complete control. Mar Ravens bounced back. We know how dynamic he's been. But how concerned are you with Baltimore's long-term prospects against other teams where do you buy into the idea

that if you can get up on them, which very few teams can, that Lamar and this offense is somehow limited and be able to come back? Where are you with that? Yeah, what I was going to say is that that's just not going to happen too often. They played against the best offense league,

probably one of the best offenses in NFL history. So, of course, it was going to be a shootout. Somebody had to be on top. Somebody had to come out on top. Somebody was going to trail. I just don't think the Baltimore Ravens are going to be down, you know,

almost, you know, in 80% of the games that they're going to be playing. I mean, I look at their schedule and they have some challenges and ultimately, you know, the AFC North is where they have to focus and have their – you know, unless they're playing against the Steelers or the Green Bay Packers or a team that can go tit for tat, I don't see the Baltimore Ravens being down at all. I see them playing ball control. I see them up in, you know, the X Factor, like always,

with the three-headed monster in the backfield and Edwards and Dobbins and, you know, Ingram. You know, so – andutralizing Passing Game. So they're just a very talented man, and, you know, they have a good coaching staff, which is, you know, what's the part they and Lamar and what they can do with them. How important is that? I think we're seeing more of it now, but did you have times

where you felt like a staff was trying to turn you into quarterback that you weren't really? Like, whereas Lamar, everything is tailored to them. Did you have moments where you go, why are you guys asking me to do this stuff? Yeah, when I was young in the West Coast system, when I was in Atlanta, you know, 2004. And, look, I don't discredit, you know, Rich McKay,

our general manager at the time. I know he had my best interest at heart. He was maybe trying to turn me into a better passer or whatever. But I just finished up with Dan Reeves and Danny, Coach John Elway, and we had just went to Green Bay and beat Green Bay the year before. And I got hurt, you know, the following season, and then Dan was fired. But, you know, I don't, you know, discredit any decision that was ever made. You know, I would hope that it was in the best interest of the team.

But, you know, in that West Coast system, I instantly transformed my mind into becoming a passer. And, you know, I looked at what Andy was doing with Donovan, you know, from afar, and I'm like, man, Donovan, he's throwing a rock around. He's having fun out there. I mean, he's really throwing a pill. And, you know, I wanted that too. So I was striving for that.

And that's where the game was. And to my coach's credit, you know, Greg Knapp and Jim Moore, in 2009, they was like, all right, the hell with this. In 2006, I'm sorry. The hell with this. You know, they went in, spent some time with some college teams. And we had a different offense. And now we zone read.

And then we got the wildcat. In 2006, myself and Ward Dirk, I think we both rushed for 1,000 yards. So I give my coaches credit for realizing, okay, we can do this with Michael. We can make him a better passer. But also let's take advantage of his skill set in year five and year six while he's still young and he's still got some tread left. So, yeah, yeah. But the game has come a long way, man.

And like I said, if I was playing in today's time, things would be different. You know, but it wasn't my time. This is not my era. And I respected my era. I respected going through that process and the growth and, and, you know, open doors. I want to talk Cleveland here because it's actually positive. We spent a lot of time talking about Cleveland last year in the lead up, and then it ends up being, you know, super disappointing, but it isn't just Baker because it's really about this rushing attack. And we saw against Dallas, huge numbers and specifically tailoring more stuff for Odell. So how, it almost just seems like, look, there's a lot of different debates you could have about

Odell, but if you get them to have them on your team, why not try to find a way to use them a little bit more? What they did last year is criminal criminal and yet when you look at what what's Stefanski and his team they're slowly designing more and more stuff for him he puts the game away and you're reminded like oh that's right that's why this guy's like this awesome and that big of a deal how frustrating do you think it is for players like Odell or guys in general that are just like okay look I'm not saying I'm perfect but like why did you even bother trading for me if you're not going to open me up like this? Yeah.

I gave a lot of credit to Odell this morning on one of our shows on FS1 because throughout all of this, I never heard Odell complain one time. I never heard him- This year. Snapping. Well, yeah, this year. Last year. Last year, maybe.

So I just can't recollect that far. But even still, I don't remember outcry. You know, I remember, you know, more so Odell, just the competitor in him coming out and, you know, wanting the ball and wanting to be a difference maker. It's a big difference. You know, it's a difference in standing up and saying, oh, man, throw me the ball.

I'm open. You know, I'm doing my part. You know, they're talking about trading them. And, no, I'm going to be a Brown as long as the Browns want me. You know, that's the attitude that you have to have. And when you possess that attitude and you have that patience, then all of a sudden people start to take notice. I read something early in the season where Baker Mayfield was saying that,

you know, he was, you know, trying to just play through the system. And, you know, Baker's learning a new system, you know, I think as well. You know, some different concepts, different plays, different looks. And he's just trying to get comfortable. You know, we'll find ways to get Odell, Odell the ball. And, you know, I understand why Baker was saying that, because he's not trying to force it. He's trying to learn himself.

I think Odell understands that, you know, we're building something. We're all trying to learn together. That's the only way we're going to have some success. And, look, week three, week four, starting to turn things around, starting to find ways to get Odell to ball. And it's all because of his positive energy. And, yes, you know, we look at Baker and say, okay, Baker, you haven't been doing what you're supposed to do.

But it's a long season, man. It's a long season. And my frustration with the Browns was always just not taking advantage of the talent that they put around Baker Mayfield. Two good backs, two good receivers, two good defensive pieces, constantly coming together. And the team is playing with confidence. I think Baker brings the confidence. Odell brings the confidence. Landry brings the confidence.

Now let's just put it all together. So now the onus is on the coaching, and the coaching is coming around as well. Has there been a player or a team that surprised you? Maybe somebody you thought a lot of and it hasn't worked out, or somebody maybe you'd overlooked? Has there been somebody that jumps out to you

and be like, man, this really surprises me a quarter way into the season? You know, it's... I would say the Patriots with Cam. You know, not to take anything away from Cam. I know Cam abilities. You know, it was just a matter of, you know, how Cam would adapt, you know, just to a lot of things. I mean, new team, new teammates, new offense.

And, man, they just look good. And Cam looked like the Cam of old. Cam looked like he was having fun. But outside of that, he's been a professional. You know, he's, you know, keeping the chains moving. He's winning games. And we know they're not going to be perfect, but he's superseded our expectations up until this point.

So, you know, we always known New England Patriots to compete. People probably thought it was going to be a drop-off where they was going to have to, you know, test the waters a little bit and tread lightly until things started to take form. No, they came out smoking. And so they've been the biggest surprise for me, but I don't know why they're the biggest surprise when they have

Bill Belichick, and I've been saying it all, you know, offseason, you know, the guy Josh McDaniels who coached Tim Tebow, so I could see what was coming with Cam. But it's the modern 2020, you modern 2020 version of McDaniels and probably what he's seen over the last five years

as the evolution of the quarterback position has changed. Now he has that guy, Tim Tebow times 20. No disrespect, but it is what it is. Off the Odell thing, I do think that this is something that's always kind of one of my favorites when you guys can tell us stories. But receivers are, I don't know if selfish is the right word, maybe single-minded. I mean, it would suck.

It would suck to run 80 routes a game and get like two throws your way. I am sympathetic to that. But I also think that there's some receivers that would rather get 10 balls for 100 plus yards and lose and be like, all right, I'm good. So give me, is there somebody that you had that was, I don't know how deep you're going to go in this, but is there a guy you played with you were like,

come on, man, like where it was, it was a challenge to keep the guy happy all the time? Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, I think we do podcasts and we have these type of talks. Good. We're not earning guys out, but we're having some fun with it. And I've learned to appreciate that side, that competitive side of the receiver before I talk about who this guy was.

He's one of my favorites. He know it, too. And we had conversations about this. So he don't hear this, and he not going to care because, you know, it's just how he was. But thank God I had another receiver who was, you know, just – I won't say just team-oriented and about winning because I know that my man Jeremy Macklin was coming from a good place when he had his little tantrums. I won't say just team-oriented and about winning because I know that my man Jeremy

Macklin was coming from a good place when he had his little tantrums. But Deshaun was always like that bright spot. You know, he could have, you know, two catches for, you know, 38 yards in the wind. And he like, yo, bro, just look out

for me next week. But sometimes I... Macklin, on the other hand, don't go too many games without feeding my man J-Mac because J-Mac going to get on. J-Mac going to get on. You're like, bro, I need the ball, bro. I need the ball. And, you know, he wasn't selfish to a point where, you know,

if we lost and he had 10 catches that he was happy. It was just that if we lost and he had 10 catches, that he was happy. It was just that if we lost and J-Mac ain't getting no attempts, oh, you gonna hear it because he like, I could be a difference maker. I know what I can do when I get the ball in my hand, so I felt

more of the responsibility on myself. I felt pressure to get the ball to Jeremy. Like I said, don't go, you know, more than two games without giving him at least six to eight targets. And that's just because he demanded the ball. But it was more sort of competitive in him. So I worried about more of J-Mac.

Deshaun, I was like, okay, Deshaun, if I just hit him on one bomb, if I hit him on one bomb, he cool. You know what I'm saying? Then I could focus on Jeremy. So that was a cool part about playing with young receivers is it helped me develop those guys because it wasn't just on the field development. It was off the field as well. So how would he bug you about it?

Like, I still have a – he's a young guy. You're this legend. Jeremy will bring you the stat sheet. Jeremy will bring you the stat sheet. Like, and Jeremy was real smart. He was a real smart player. was real smart player and he'll come and step in the film room for a minute. Look bro, that's just consider open right here. You know so what I'm saying is you know you know clouded coverage or you

know it's a little iffy. It's not iffy to him so i had to let j mac i had to let him have it and i think i did pretty well um you know and satisfying his hunger for the football that's good i like i love that stuff that's my favorite stuff that's mike vick you can follow him at michael vick and he'll be joining us occasionally throughout the season man so i really appreciate it yes sir thanks for having me'm going to get some college football stuff out. But first, FanDuel, because I got to tell you about my new favorite

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In Iowa, call 1-800-BETS-OFF. Before life advice, a little college football here, just some rapid fire. I don't know if we're going to call it a title for this. No huddle. No, I'm not going to do that. But a few things here. Eight ranked teams lost this week. So that's eight ranked teams that lost. Six lost versus unranked teams. Not records because the record is 10 ranked teams losing in a weekend and eight unranked losses in a different weekend.

losing in a weekend and eight unranked losses in a different weekend. Let's start with the Big 12. Oklahoma, this is such a crazy number. So they lose to Iowa State at Lames is how the Iowa fans call it. I don't think that's fair to Cyclones fans in Ames, Iowa, but that's what the kids say. First time that Oklahoma lost there since 1960. First back-to-back losses for Oklahoma since 1999. That's insane. Okay. So we have the red

river rivalry, um, renamed years ago with a Texas team that should have two big 12 losses, but they came back against Texas tech and lost to TCU. Again. They keep losing to TCU this past decade. It's crazy. I would also add Tom Herman to my list of coaches that the college football public roots against the most. Jim Harbaugh is the captain, forever captain. He's a fifth-year guy. They let him come back and hang out. Herman's on that team. Chip Kelly would be on that team. I think Brian Kelly is on that team. I don't know who the fifth guy is. The college football coaches that the college football community

roots against the most. It's definitely Harbaugh one. I think Herman's there, Chip. Yeah, and Brian Kelly, but that might have more to do with Notre Dame and Notre Dame's bad performances in the playoffs. But, you know, Notre Dame

should never apologize for having great seasons and getting the college football playoff because other big programs get smoked and they actually don't get as much heat as Notre Dame does so again looking at the Big 12 Oklahoma State's in first place at 3-0 um now remember they started the season where Big 12 looked like a mess because they were losing these Sunbelt teams and then the Tulsa game where you're like wait Oklahoma State barely beat Tulsa well Tulsa is actually pretty good if you watch Tulsa this past week so Oklahoma State's 3-0 there I don't know what I mean Oklahoma can't run the football that's a little weird the defensive tackling is a huge problem that kid uh Brees Hall the running back for Iowa State that big run that

he had that was sort of a delay there's about five or six different guys from Oklahoma that all missed him. So some of the tackling issues are part of the problem there. And Spencer Rattler, who I know everybody wants to beat up on after the QB one thing, because I went back and watched some episodes after we talked about it with Danny Cannell. He's incredibly unlikable in the show. But you know what? As I get older, I'm not going to beat up on a kid in his teenage years for being a little punkish. The irony of Cannell saying that is there's a lot of things that Spencer Rattler does in that show that reminds me of working with Cannell. Um, so there you go. There you go. But I'm also not like going to say, Hey, Spencer Rattler was awesome to all of his

teammates, but I don't think he's necessarily the problem there. He did throw that pick late. He didn't seem to have seen the, uh, secondary well enough. I think he thought he had one-on-one on, on that post route. Um, and he definitely didn't because it was a pick. But there are more problems than just Spencer Rattler there. And on top of it, with Tom Herman in Texas, I swear if they didn't have Sam Eleanor, I think that they would go four and eight. All right. So speaking of rankings, Oklahoma State goes from 17 to seven. Tennessee goes from 21 to 14 after beating Missouri. I mean, that seems kind of stupid.

And then you have BYU, who's probably good. BYU jumps seven spots as well from 22 to 15. Real quick on BYU, destroying Navy, the Army game postponed, Troy, whatever, Louisiana Tech. But they did add that Boise State game, and they've got Houston in there as well. Oh, San Diego State is the other one. So we know they're independent. UConn, also in the independent group with UMass, just in case you want to keep up.

The independent standings, BYU, Liberty, Army, New Mexico State, UConn, UMass. Some of those teams not playing. I have no issue with any of these teams jumping up. I mean, the Tennessee thing seems stupid. but then again, when you have eight ranked teams lose, like, what are you going to do? And as I remind everyone that gets mad about the rankings, do your own. I had to do it a couple of times, a couple of years for ESPN.com. And I sit there and watch everything. I was traveling all the time. Thought I was totally on top of it. You start ranking teams. And when you get to like 13, 14, 15, you start running out of stuff and you start coming up with an order that probably

nobody else would agree with. So there you go. I have no problem. The Big Ten teams are back in this. Like I said, Ohio State staying at six. Penn State moves up one. Not a big deal at all for any of these. I'm not going to get worked up about any of this stuff.

Speaking of rankings, UCF did issue a statement saying they still had themselves in the playoff despite their loss to Tulsa. One other thing that I wanted to bring up are two other things. Will Muschamp, head coach of South Carolina. I was going through it and I was probably a little harsher than I thought because he did have that win against a top-ranked Georgia team. But there haven't been a lot of wins in the five years he's been at South Carolina. And what they didn't do as far as their own sense of urgency at the end of that Florida game, was awful. I don't know how many of you watched it. I imagine it's a small segment of the audience here. But South Carolina down a couple scores, and they just took forever. They were down 38-17.

I'm going to go ahead and look at this, how long that drive took. They got a touchdown that made it 38-24. South Carolina takes over at its own 22 with eight minutes to go. This drive took seven minutes, and on fourth and goal at the four, they didn't score. So I'm double-checking this thing again. Yeah, over seven minutes. It was brutal. And there was a tweet, John Middlecoff, who I know does some radio and does some podcasting

with Colin Cowherd. He had a great, great tweet. It was, it was perfect. Cause he said, Hey, I know a lot of football people that rave about will must champ love being around him on and on and on. I first met must champ in 2008. He's incredible. I've met him in person a bunch of different times. You want to run through a wall for the freaking guy. You're all in, all in. And for whatever reason, all the football people that love him, the energy that he has, his teams just are so underwhelming and it keeps happening. And South Carolina is, you know, they're not going to do anything this year. They're already 0-2. And, you know, looking back at that game, this year they're already owing to uh and you know looking back at that game i just you're at home going why are you the only people who have no

sense of urgency and you're actually on the field clemson we know is going to be terrific with all the weapons bama and mac jones this thing looks real beyond davante smith and waddle everybody loves waddle davante's overlooked because there was judy and rugs there davante smith's always open all the time but mechi this john mechi John Mechie kid, a couple of big scores for them. And my new favorite guy, and I'm going to have to pay more attention to him, but that is DeMarvin Leal, five-star to Converse Texas for A&M. He's number eight who had the interception. He's just built different. As the kids like to say, he's just different that way. So I'm going to be paying more attention to him. So there you go. Oh yeah. Cincinnati's good too. Okay. A couple of life advices here. Hit us up. Lifeadvicerr at gmail.com.

I have a big surprise for you. Life advice fans. We're going to have a real live professional advice person joining us. Who's pretty famous in his field. And I reached out and said, Hey, I do this thing. And he was like, I'm in. Because at first I thought he was definitely out. Okay. I'm not going to use any names on this one at all. Ryan, I have a very bad situation. I would like your advice. I will only change the names. I'm a 25-year-old male living on Long Island. And for the past two years, I've been involved with a 39-year-old married woman named Jennifer. Okay. Two kids, ages seven and three. She married her college sweetheart. And on social media, they present themselves an extremely happy rich couple living on the island.

Wow. That never happens on Instagram. Since I've known her, she's told me her and her husband, we'll just, he has made up a bunch of names here. This guy's a real, this is like cousin Greg when they are not in fact receipts. Top secret. Okay. Since I've known her, she's told me her and her husband. We'll just maybe we'll just say husband because I don't even trust your fake names have been having issues and that a divorce was coming. It never came.

Here's where it gets complicated. All right. Now it gets complicated all right now it gets complicated on my birthday weekend in late august matthew found some of my clothing at their house and after some deeper snooping went on to obtain our long chain of text messages okay so she's married and cheating on her husband with you and she's not smart enough to delete her text messages smart furthermore um he's since reached out to my siblings on social media. Oh, no. Okay, that sucks.

Telling them we met on a dating site called Seeking Arrangement, which is true. Since I failed out of college a number of years ago, I've become increasingly scared of my lack of career success. Anyway, he reached out due to anger and just wanted to blow up my life since his marriage is now about to be over. I presented myself as being this single the past few years. So obviously this has become a big deal. Oh, so you were telling girls that you were with, that you were single. Meanwhile, you were, uh, sleeping with a married woman whose marriage is now over. Jennifer now tells me the marriage is all caps, definitely over, and that she wants me to move into their house since he is now moving into their second home. I want to, but also have numerous concerns.

Do you? Do you? Seems like a good way to get killed, dude. Right. Is she now just moving forward with us because Matthew is gone? A big reason. Not proud to admit this. I'm considering the move.

All right. The big reason, and it's parenthesis here parenthetical either. All right. I'm not proud to admit this. I am considering the move. The reason is because of the financial security, even with Matthew, the husband out of the picture, Jennifer is very successful in real estate. I would imagine she makes between 500 K to 1 million annually. And despite working hard, I'm only making about 40,000 annually in my retail job. Nothing to write home about, especially on Long Island. I've never met her kids or any of her other friends. It's a huge risk.

And I feel if I say no, my time with her may not last. Not to mention if I say yes, my family is now in on my secret and will undoubtedly continue to judge me. Any honest advice will be appreciated. All right. You want some honest advice here, buddy? You kind of suck. Like, thanks for the download. But like, fuck you, man.

Seriously. I'm not saying, look, it happens. People that are married end up being outside of the marriage, but you have taken zero responsibility in all of this. So your main concerns were that other girls that thought you were single have found out. Your other concern is that your family knows that you're a homewrecker. You've never met her kids, so you're not remotely thinking about your kids. And the most fucked up part about this is that you're thinking of moving in with her, where you're then going to be part of the kid's life because you don't make enough money.

So you put it that way. I, you know, not once has this been about her or caring about her. Not once has this been like, I like her kids. Not my guess is this is that she's kind of attractive for you and maybe you're in shape or she just likes younger dudes. And I, you know, there's not really any advice in, in this unless, unless like, here's, what's going to happen, man, you're going to look in the mirror after this and you will feel bad about it. So I'm not acting like I was the most mature person at 25 at all. I don't know that I would have done this. I don't think I would have, cause I really care about kids. And the fact that you, I mean, look, she has to keep you hidden from the entire family because it's an affair and that's, that's fine.

But you know, these kids are really young. And if the only reason you're moving in is because she makes money, then just stop even thinking about it. Okay. Now, if you're in love with her and you think it's going to work out long-term, but you didn't mention any of that stuff. It doesn't come up in the email at all. It's only about how much she makes and how much you don't make. And you didn't care about the husband's feelings. And we don't know the

full scope. I mean, everybody could be guilty of something here, but at least based on what you've told me and the things that stand out as factors, none of them are really the good ones. So I would tell you to move on because the foundation of this relationship is not very good. I would, you know, whatever. I mean, you can relationship is not very good, I would, you know, whatever. I mean, you can tell people in your family, like, whatever, you made a mistake. It's not the end of the world. People make mistakes. But don't move in with a woman that you don't mention once that you care about her here or have any guilt whatsoever. Like, you don't have guilt that the husband found out or that the marriage is over. You have,

and maybe they were doomed and it wasn't going to work out. So that kind of justified it for you in your head and people rationalize decisions that they know they shouldn't make, but we can really get there if we want to, right? Like, well, this, this, and this, but you know, she's got a seven and three-year-old and you're going to be moving in. You've got to step up and be a part of their life. And I'm not saying it means you have to guarantee you're never going to leave, but your, um, your entree into this, this family life world, like you're not going to be able to pull this off. You're just not. So don't mess with the kids. Don't mess up the kids here. All right, let's get to another one. Um,

okay. Uh, we'll leave names out. Cause I just, I'm going to leave names out unless people say, Hey, use my name. Cause you just never know.. Okay, guys. I was hoping to get some advice on a potential move. I'm a 25-year-old born and raised in Northwest Ohio. Went to school at Miami University in Southwest Ohio and moved to Columbus, Ohio immediately after graduation. Whole family is here. Sister lives five minutes down the road. I'm single. I have a dog and countless friends here in Columbus and an overall very established young life with a solid job in an industry I don't care about. I've recently been offered a position to work in the golf industry, which I'd love for more money. Ooh, covering Metro Chicago and Milwaukee

and would need to move there by the end of October. I know quite a few people there in my age range from the start and wouldn't have a problem getting to know more. My question is, what would you see as any cons in accepting the position and making the move? I hesitate slightly because of the family and already established aspect of my Ohio life. I think hearing from Ryan and Bill, well, I can tell you Bill's probably not going to help out on this one, would help provide a bit of peace of mind, confidence in my choice, considering they've been in the position or a complete third party situation. Okay, we get a lot of these. You get a lot of the weighing the future and career versus friends and comfort and all that kind of stuff. I'm a big, big move once guy. And then you can always come back. And then when you come back, if you did move, you're

probably going to appreciate where you're at a little bit more. Some people like being home. Some people love being around family. Some people prioritize friends over all of it. I will tell you as somebody that prioritized career over everything, and then behind that was career number two, and then people. I miss my friends a lot. I mean, I make jokes about not having friends. I actually have tons of friends all over the country. And when I was moving out to Los Angeles, I actually thought about moving to Denver just because of friendship. I mean, it's not a lie. That's how much I like Denver. That's how much I like the group that was there. And there was part of me that said, you have been grinding now from 25, 26 years. Well, let's say 26, uh, 25, definitely

not grinding, but 26 till now it's only been about that. And so if you have like your guys that are going to be your friends, the rest of your lives, like that's a pretty special thing. If you all get along, you all, I would kill to be able to have like three of my buddies from college in the same town and go, do you guys just want to come over and throw stuff? You know, again, I'm not breaking stuff, but you know what I mean? And so if you have that, especially if you get along with your family and the siblings, like that's really, that's real stuff.

That's awesome. But a couple of things you point out here. You're getting offered a job in the golf industry during a pandemic, and it's for more money, and you get to cover Chicago and Milwaukee and not live in Columbus. That seems like a no-brainer. Columbus is definitely better. I think the first time I went there in 2008, I was there two years ago, and it's definitely way better now. Columbus is better

now. So if this were 10 years ago, email, I'd be like, what are you doing? But I will, I will give a most improved at Columbus over some of the other cities that I've been to. But if you can start hanging out in Chicago and you said you already have friends there and you're only 25, I like the Chicago idea a lot, but there's clearly something that's, that's tying you to this. So this isn't really even about you. I think what you have to understand is it's, it's, it's not as simple as, Hey, what's more important to you. Okay. Because that part of it, but I like moving. I like moving to a better place. I like moving in an industry that you like. So better job, better money, better city. And you already

had friends there. I think it's great that you love the family part of it and the Columbus side of this, but it's not like you're moving to New Zealand here. Okay. You're moving to Chicago and Milwaukee area and your family's in Ohio. So yes, the day-to-day will be different, but I think you have to move. Isn't Columbus like the test city for a bunch of food? Because it's got like the most, the best demographics is like what represents America. So like the Wendy's gets a whole bunch of different stuff. That's the only thing I've heard about Columbus. Well, it sounds like I got to Google something.

Does Columbus have the best? I think like the most representative demographics of the country, I think is what I've... That's just what Mark Titus told me. He couldn't be full of shit. That sounds so specific. It might be real. Yeah.

Like the Burger King, that's where they try their chicken fries first. So you might be leaving that. That's the only thing i know um wait how columbus became america's test market although this is written but it's written by the columbus monthly or monthly columbus i believe funded by clubtrillion.com. Yeah. No, Columbus Monthly. Okay. Columbus has long been, to a degree of notoriety, a haven for test marketing products. Isn't what's still driving companies. Yeah. Oh, so now it's become more sophisticated.

I'm telling you, when I went there recently for, I think i was there with nissan in the in the heisman house uh i was i was pretty impressed because when i was there you know the worst thing about all these college towns is pre-uber and lyft like if you stayed out after a game oh dude you you just were you calling the cab company that it's just so hard yeah i mean it's impossible to get home so unfortunately i think too many of our stanford steve mcshay rankings were based on how soon can we get the hell out of here um but yeah it looks like that columbus theory not not a bad theory so i don't know maybe maybe if our guy moves the whole demographic will be thrown off. Okay.

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