The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Pats Cut Cam Newton, Plus CFB Over/Unders With Stanford Steve

Episode Date: August 31, 2021

Russillo shares his thoughts on the biggest headline from NFL roster cuts, the Patriots releasing Cam Newton, as well as a few other roster decisions throughout the league (0:28), before talking with ...ESPN’s Stanford Steve about which teams they are looking at to have a good college football season, as well as some of their favorite win totals bets (11:45). Finally, Ryen answers some listener-submitted Life Advice questions (52:15). Host: Ryen Russillo Guest: Stanford Steve Producers: Kyle Crichton and Steve Ceruti  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 today's podcast we're going back to the old school stanford steve from sports center we're going to do a bunch of college football preview stuff i'm going to talk about cam newton being cut news this morning and a new batch of life advice, including a statement that needed to be issued, I guess. Today's the final cut down day, the 53-man roster. And if you're on the East Coast
Starting point is 00:00:32 or waking up on the West Coast, news of Cam Newton being cut. Kind of the headline here is New England has decided to go with Mac Jones as their starting quarterback this year. So let's back up. We had a few teams
Starting point is 00:00:43 that needed to make decisions. And feel free, guys, if you want to jump in Jones as their starting quarterback this year. Let's back up. We had a few teams that needed to make decisions. Feel free, guys, if you want to jump in at some point here at the end of this because I think there's some where we thought, okay, are the Jets really making a decision other than Zach Wilson, especially when you look at the rest of the depth chart at that position? The Jets are just going for it here.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Who else? Jacksonville had to make a decision. They went Trevor Lawrence. I don't think anybody was shocked by that one. I think the only thing you could look at is the handling of the Gardner Minshew deal. Was it brilliant in the way they handled him as if he were a real option and therefore they got something for him in a trade with the Colts? Or was it a complete waste of time and a charade when Lawrence was always going to be the starter and then Lawrence wasn't getting enough reps? And that's something that we hear all the time. And as I get older and sometimes I'll push back a little bit.
Starting point is 00:01:30 No one's ever told me reps actually aren't important. Okay, I'm not arguing that. But I guess I don't know that I always believe that if a guy isn't taking every single rep that somehow deters his career at some point. So it depends. There was opinions all over the place on the weekend on the Gardner Minshew deal. Brilliant or a complete waste of time. But Jacksonville's going with their guy. Houston's a whole
Starting point is 00:01:49 another topic. We'll get to the Deshaun Watson trade rumor stuff that was going on this weekend as well. Denver goes with Teddy Bridgewater. Chicago, you know, honestly, Bears Twitter is so insufferable right now. And not that I've ever put Bears Twitter in that group with other fan bases,
Starting point is 00:02:07 but the amount of angst and depression that all Bears people have. And even like it's leaked over into people that have no emotional attachment to the Bears whatsoever. The fact that Nagy just keeps pushing back on Justin Fields starting. I kind of feel like it's becoming a waste of time because look, here's what's going to happen. Dalton's not going to be that great, and then Fields is going to play.
Starting point is 00:02:30 And I don't know that it'll prevent the Bears from making the playoffs. Who knows? It's the NFL. You never know. You switch out half the teams. The Saints going with Jameis. That honestly shouldn't be surprising whatsoever. And then Trey Lance and Garoppolo.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I don't know that there was really much of anything there. And Trey Lance did hurt his finger, but that's not that big of a deal, apparently. If I go back and jump on one of these, the Deshaun Watson, he turns 26 in a couple weeks. The rumor was that they were going to get three firsts in two seconds. I don't know. There's some ballsy front office people. I don't know who would have both the equity built up with the city.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Although, you know, look, if we're being grown-ups about how these decisions come about, as tough as the allegations are against Deshaun, and there's a ton, I don't know how you trade for him because you don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:20 You don't know what's going to happen with the NFL player protocol because they've got to wait out some of this stuff. And there's the civil charges. And apparently, I think there's 10 criminal charges now. I don't know who would trade for that guy. But I think if we're all being honest here,
Starting point is 00:03:35 there's a good portion of NFL fans, if you ended up with 26-year-old Deshaun Watson, you'd be like, all right, we'll see how this goes. Ride this out. I mean, you know you would have that. You know you would have that conversation with yourself or with your buddies being like, well, you know, we'll see how this goes. Ride this out. I mean, you know you would have that. You know you would have that conversation with yourself or with your buddies being like, well, you know, we'll see how this goes. But the idea that you don't know what any of those are and then you give up three firsts in two seconds. Look, I would never rule out any transaction.
Starting point is 00:03:58 But that's a huge ask with that kind of uncertainty that played out. All right, so then you have the Pats. Anybody around New England, you know what's weird is last year, guys around the Pats were telling me Stidham was better in camp than Cam. Cam Newton, as we spent a lot of time talking about him last year, as the season progressed, I thought it was one of the worst seasons from a quarterback that I've seen. It's like week to week, somebody that's supposed to be a guy.
Starting point is 00:04:24 He's clearly, Cam, at his worst, is still better than some of these other guys that should never even be starters. But with Cam Newton, there's a minimum level of expectation of what you're supposed to see there. Yes, there were opt-outs. Yes, the Patriots are bad at the skill position, guys. Yes, he got COVID. And after that Seattle game, you're thinking Cam Newton's the best signing in the history of free agency. A million bucks a year, and everybody's freaking out about it, and then it falls off. I mean, he had five touchdowns total, five passing touchdowns total going into the last week against the Jets. So for the season, he had five and then ended up with eight.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I've told you numerous times, as you watch it play out, and people kind of figure it out, and I don't know if it was COVID, I don't know if it's injury or what. It just got worse and worse and worse. So when the announcement that the Pats are re-signing Cam for a deal that could have gotten to $13.6 million, Cam still made $3.5 million on this deal. That's not a very smart deal by the Pats. You want to talk about depth? I don't know. You just, you just threw three and a half million at a guy that couldn't beat out a rookie. And after watching Cam fall apart last year, you go, all right, who are you bidding against? Because the initial deal was, you know, announced at like 7 million. And then it was like, no, it's 13.6 with incentives. It's like, okay, what's the realistic base? Like what, what's he going to make if he plays? And it still was
Starting point is 00:05:43 going to be, you know, I think six or $7 million. And I thought, wow, not only did they do that deal early with Cam, they bumped him up quite a bit from where they were before. I think anybody and this is kind of me getting it from people that are around the team. I'm not one of those people, as we all know, but I wouldn't say this stuff unless I were feeling a little bit, I was just confident about the information. And that for the concerns about Cam, the non-quarterback, like what's his personality going to be? They loved him. They really did, by all accounts. I think there was some serious frustration that he wasn't vaccinated and that if you're starting
Starting point is 00:06:20 quarterback, who then again, messes up the testing protocol but like look i can even have sympathy for cam or messing up the testing thing when i was coming back from overseas i was convinced i had it wrong the whole time you ask somebody you get whoever you ask you get five different answers i can see somebody screwing it up the difference is i'm not a starting quarterback in the nfl and nobody's depending on me um so you have to make sure you get that stuff right so i think that part was frustrating but i don't think it's, hey, Cam's not vaccinated. We're getting rid of this guy because I actually think Belichick liked him and the locker room clearly respected him.
Starting point is 00:06:51 It's that Mac Jones, whether it was watching during the preseason games or more importantly, all the reps that he was taking, Mac Jones was the better quarterback. He was better. And if Cam wasn't much better than he was last season then I actually don't think that's a huge surprise um and as I've said throughout with any of the first round quarterbacks I feel good about the extremes who's going to be really good who isn't going to be good if Sam Ellinger ends up being like a 10-year starter in the pros I'm going to be shocked that would be on the extreme side of like, you know, he kind of looks like GNC, no coupon Tebow.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And I, I, you know, I hear about him in the mix. I was like, my gosh, like that's not who I watch in college at all. Um, Mac Jones or stuff. I really liked, there's some stuff that I thought there were limitations, but apparently Josh McDaniels is like, this guy runs the offense exactly the way I want him to run the offense. runs the offense exactly the way I want him to run the offense. And for Cam, if the physical part isn't right,
Starting point is 00:07:50 there's going to be a lot of pre-snap stuff that just isn't going to happen with Cam. He's just not going to do that stuff as much. And it's been noted, and you saw it play out there first time. So I also saw Chris Long tweet out saying, hey, this is actually Belichick doing Cam a huge favor by getting him out of there now and see if he can land somewhere else. But with the vaccination protocols and everything else going on, uh, you know, I don't, I don't know how desirable Cam Newton is, but he's gonna, he, you have to think he's going to end up on some kind of roster and knowing he already pocketed some money on this deal too. So not a shock that
Starting point is 00:08:21 it went this way, but I think him being cut is, is the surprising part of this. If he were going to lose his job to Mac Jones, I don't think anybody, I don't know that any of us would have said no way, you know, he's Cam's going to start every single game this year, but being,
Starting point is 00:08:35 being out on cut down days kind of surprised. I mean, I know Kyle, you ordered a Jersey last year, correct? Yeah. Yeah, I did,
Starting point is 00:08:43 but how's that going? I mean, going i i guess i what i thought a while ago that like listen super bowl is not in the plans it's just something i've gotten used to and and at least thinking should we show up will we not i was like at least a good storyline was like a good cam comeback season and we show up with like nine ten wins and it's because cam like had a couple good games and whatever. So that's not going to happen. But I guess my question is, I thought, so I was listening to you talk about
Starting point is 00:09:10 how much money he was going to get even if he didn't hit all of his incentives. And I just realized I was wrong. I thought it was $1.5 million to have him for the year. And like, he's better than Hoyer, right? Why couldn't we have him be the backup? So I guess what I'm saying is, if he never started a game,
Starting point is 00:09:25 would he have just only gotten like 1.5? What's the 1.5 million I keep seeing? There was a base. His base was 1.5. His signing bonus was 2 million. So I believe, based on what I've read today, and again, you never know with the NFL stuff, that he already pocketed 3.5 million
Starting point is 00:09:44 and then maybe like another hundred grand for something that the max version of what he could have made was 13.6. But I mean, I have to imagine that a lot of that was, um, probably some playing incentives, but I doubt if he just was awful and played all season, he would get 13.6 million.
Starting point is 00:10:00 So now none of that matters. Um, and good for him. You know, he was able to pocket some money here, but I still, I still think that's kind of like a that's quite the tab to eat now when you go okay now we have hoyer oh they they freaking love hoyer though i mean they love him he's no castle like hoyer's gonna be on the team for you know i i've you know, Hoyer, there's like nothing that, I mean,
Starting point is 00:10:25 Hoyer just screams limitations and they love having them around. So there's that. And then Stidham, who I've, I've never been as high on as now I've always have this joke about every new England Patriots backup quarterback being like the most overrated player in sports, because every time they have somebody, then I'll read pat's media people talk that guy up like all the time and rarely um do they work out although you know what garoppolo brissett there was a stretch in the middle there there was a rohan davy to ryan
Starting point is 00:10:55 mallett stretch where that guy for a long time was overrated but the fact that they turned garoppolo and brissett and starters then who knows they're back. Maybe they're back in business. Kyle, you grabbing the new Mac Jones jersey? Yeah, I don't think I have much of a choice. I think I'm going to go defensive, guys. I was going to be like, Gilmore is my guy, but they're about to screw me over on that choice too. So I'll just stick with my Chandler Jones
Starting point is 00:11:18 jersey for now. You know what you could do is you could just add zero, right? And then, you know, put some duct tape over Cam's name and just put Mac Jones on the back and then you know put some duct tape over over cam's name and just put mac jones on the back and then you can test the water it's not it's not halloween saruti you can't just start i'm just saying if you want to dive all the way in you could just you know you could dip your toe in the water for a second no i'll just pay the money and just be sad about whatever happens that's fair let's talk some college ball stanford steve coming up next.
Starting point is 00:11:48 The star of Scott Van Pelt Sports Center at Stanford Steve. What's going on, man? Already trying to stir up the feathers, aren't you? One night back and you're going to just come right at it with your stick-to-itiveness, Ryan. This is my guy. You guys know that. We spent more time together. At least I did with him as I always joke I was with him more than any other
Starting point is 00:12:08 person over I think about a six year stretch a lot of people called those people married but that was not the case for me alright let's talk college ball I don't want to pick the four teams for the playoffs I don't want to pick Bama, Clemson Oklahoma, Ohio State
Starting point is 00:12:24 although it's very tough I have a really hard time seeing Clemson, not only because I like their quarterback, I like their depth on defense, and I love their schedule. And even if they lose to Georgia, I just don't see them not winning the ACC considering how the schedule shakes out. And look, they don't have Notre Dame. They don't have North Carolina. And they don't have Miami, which is unbelievable that they miss all of those teams. Yeah, they do have to play Boston College. Watch out for Boston College this year.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I know all your buddies up in Boston will be fired up because there's huge college football fans in that city. But yeah, I mean, I heard you last week with Bruce going through the conference championships between those four teams. It's astounding. And when I got to the end of last year, I was really worried the sport was broken because I understand, you know, we don't want to be, you know, at the college football level, it's not everybody gets a trophy.
Starting point is 00:13:24 But I do think about the opportunity right and and with there i go with the group of five okay and obviously cincinnati goes nine and oh last year get their peach bowl you know they have their arguments obviously they're not going to get it it's a in one in a year where they didn't have one of those wins and no out of conference-conference games, they're not getting in. But for somebody to break through, it's got to be somebody like that. Like a group of five, we go back to UCF, they're probably the best group of five of all time going undefeated, and they didn't get an opportunity. And that goes back to their schedule because they missed an ACC game,
Starting point is 00:13:59 I think it was against Georgia Tech that year, that got canceled evidently. But like Cincinnati got road games at Indiana and at Notre Dame this year. They got a guy, a quarterback, who everybody talks about this offseason has taken that stride to get into the top 10 quarterback. You know, that McShay's big board, all that stuff. So I look at Cincinnati as a team with opportunity. I look at Oklahoma, and I just think about the
Starting point is 00:14:26 contrast in styles they have to Iowa State. And when you look at Iowa State, I know there was, you know, some things thrown around the off season about these, you know, analytics guys and what they would make the point spread if, if Iowa State played Alabama on a neutral site and all this stuff. But when you look at the way Matt Campbell's constructed Iowa State, right, there's no five stars, there's no four stars, it's three stars, player development, everybody came back. And now they got NFL guys at running back, at tight end, defense, linebacker. And, you know, you look at Lincoln Riley with Rattler,
Starting point is 00:15:00 who's as aggressive as a quarterback as there is out there. And, you know, we used to call it all the time when you were doing the show, Ryan, fake – I called it fake momentum, right? Quarterback back, coach is back, you won your bowl game, right? And when you really look at Oklahoma last year, and they, you know, they kept going up and up and up and up. But when you look at it, okay, they pummeled Florida when Florida treated that Cotton Bowl
Starting point is 00:15:25 as a spring game. They beat Iowa State because Purdy plays the worst game of his career and throws three picks. I think it's the only time he ever did it. So I just look at that game down the road because it's such a contrast in style. Iowa State tries to keep everything in front of you,
Starting point is 00:15:41 and they're one of the few teams in the country that will take five yards a clip and keep staying in front of you. And they're one of the few teams in the country that will take five yards a clip and keep staying in third and short situations to keep that pressure on the defense. So that's what's fascinating to me when you talk about two teams from outside the mix and that could break through those. Because I put Georgia in that top five.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I put Georgia because I think they're going to get the benefit of it out too because of what they've done recently and obviously what they've done recruiting. So something you and I were talking about when it comes to Oklahoma and Iowa State, and this is the part that sucks, that we're frustrated by as a sport, but it's just what happens, is Iowa State luckily has Iowa their second week. So it's a top 25 team. And then it gets real slim the rest of the way.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Although the Big 12, I don't think gets enough credit for how much deeper it's been the last couple of years. Like everybody's just so dismissive of the Big 12. And you're like, you know what? There's a lot of teams there that actually don't suck, that are tough outs on a Saturday if you're not ready to go. But I know no one wants to believe that outside of the Big 12. Then they got Texas. Who knows what they're going to be in November? I mean, I never know with them
Starting point is 00:16:45 anymore at this point. With Sark, I'm hoping for it, but if they were top 10, I wouldn't be surprised. And if they were 2-6, I don't know. Although that would be a little surprising. Anyway, so they have Oklahoma. They're at Norman, and that's their second-to-last game. The problem here, like say Iowa State
Starting point is 00:17:02 gets that one and they lose the rematch if it's the Big 12, Oklahoma will get in. If Iowaowa state loses and wins the rematch then probably no one gets in from the big 12 depending on again we're long overdue from some sort of anarchy and maybe a couple two lost conference champs looking to get in like this is going to happen at some point i don't like that it's been these four teams over and over again i can't believe that it continues this way but eventually this cycle will be broken up and we're going to start having surprises. But the
Starting point is 00:17:29 who have you been stuff that I know Cannell used to freak out about all the time in the SEC, but this is the part where it's a reality where I don't know if Iowa State's getting the rematch benefit of the doubt the way the Sooners would be to get a Big 12 team in. I totally agree and I agree with you on the Big 12.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I love the coaching hires that have been made when it comes to Iowa State, Kansas State, all right? I mean, Kansas is as bad as it's been, but you got to go get a guy that can rebuild a program. They went and did that. And I think Texas is the outlier because when you talk about the roads for Iowa State and Oklahoma, you need Texas. You need Texas to beat Louisiana week one.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And you really need them to go put one on Arkansas in week two, which I think is going to be an atmosphere that we haven't seen in a while. Because those people are going to want Texas blood really bad. So for Iowa State, I agree with you. The thing there is that, and we can talk about the big 10 later, but I think I was going to win the big 10 West. Um, I, I feel confident in that. I know everybody's on Wisconsin because of what they have coming back, but it's, it's, and that's what gets me to the Clemson Georgia game, which I'll talk about, but it almost,
Starting point is 00:18:40 it's not, it's weird how this started has started to play out because it's now about what the teams you have beaten have done. So like with Georgia, if Georgia wins, they're going to get Clemson. Clemson, you talk about that schedule. They're going to most likely run the table. So they're always going to have that loss or that win that's going to get carried so much higher than a team that maybe hasn't lost a game. And that's what I think we lose focus of is these teams that are going week in and week out and winning football games.
Starting point is 00:19:13 And that's why I get mad a lot of times because when these teams lose at the top, we don't drop them far enough. And I know we've talked many years and you go back to your top 25 when you had the rank every week and you lost your mind from you know 15 to 25 but i'm saying at the top we when you lose you've got to drop and keep some
Starting point is 00:19:31 undefeated teams at least at the beginning of the season we have a whole season to play out let them teams that lost play their way back in yeah that's where the poll part of it is is like hey if we didn't have the polls we wouldn wouldn't do this. But eventually, we start forming opinions about teams. It's impossible to remove that from it. But I still think whenever anybody goes, well, with the expansion and with the scheduling and the alliance and all this stuff, it's going to have greater non-conference. It's like, dude, if I've learned everything, it's still stop scheduling people. Yeah, no doubt. Because the human voting process,
Starting point is 00:20:06 it is so hard for them to ignore a good loss. They just can't. And so, I don't know. All right, as far as the Big Ten, though, I was reading a piece on The Athletic, and I think Matt Fortuna had the quote, and it was really good. He was talking to a coach, and he said,
Starting point is 00:20:22 here's the deal. Ohio State's probably weaker than they've been in recent years and the teams around them are probably closer and the gap is still massive. And so go ahead. I totally agree because, and Fleek and I talk about this week in and week out on our podcast about the idea of the, you know, you talk about quarterback tears all the time in the NFL. I look at conference and tears for the last of the, you know, you talk about quarterback tears all the time in the NFL. I look at conference and tears. For the last five years, I would say, Clemson, above everybody else in the ACC,
Starting point is 00:20:56 was the largest gap, right? And now I think that's switched. I agree. I think it's Ohio State. And when you look at Ohio State, what they've done recruiting is just stupid. Like, I'm reading a bunch of preseason things. I'm like, wow. I'm like, Big Ten quarterback, first team.
Starting point is 00:21:11 And everybody's just like, well, whoever wins the Ohio State job, that's who's going to be first team all Big Ten quarterback. And when you factor in a guy like Ryan Day, who has won me over, like not a lot of guys can. I can't find – like there's not a lot of holes to poke in. And I heard Bruce with you, you know, talking about their defense. And I get it. But they still have five stars coming in to replace these guys.
Starting point is 00:21:34 So, there's a learning curve you have. Now, I know they have Oregon coming in week two, and they got to be buttoned up, you know, for that one. But I think they will. Like, you factor in a quarterback situation with a new guy. You have Ryan Day, who I think is the best play caller in the sport. I'll take my shot with that, with that roster. And we talk about when their defense has been elite.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Their defense was shaky last year, but they still have talent down there. We used to go down to the games early all the time, and I don't think we got a chance to do it when you and I were traveling. But the last couple of times that I've gone, my favorite thing to do now is go watch Larry Johnson with that D line, whatever he has. Like, yeah, it was pretty nice when he had the bosses and chase young, but to see those guys get after it pre pregame is,
Starting point is 00:22:20 is something that is just amazing. Like you just don't see it. And then you see how all these guys become successful at the next level. And it just goes back real quick. There was a Cotton Bowl SC in Ohio State. Darnold, I think it was his last game. And I just remember going out to the D-line workout, and I'm like, oh, Darnold is going to get crushed tonight.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I'm like, he has no chance. Because they just keep rolling in. You're like, all right, wait, which four is the first team? Which four is the second team? You don't know. I'll take that idea with Ohio State, knowing what they have established as far as a coaching staff, a roster,
Starting point is 00:22:56 and a talent. They're talking about the running back already being at J.K. Dottman's level, and he doesn't even have a carry, I believe, yet. Stroud's going to put up numbers in this offense. If there's one thing that they do. The receivers are stupid. The receivers are awesome. And, you know, I defer to some quarterback people,
Starting point is 00:23:11 certainly more so than me, that are around guys in high school. When Leinert talks up Stroud the way he does, I can tell it's specific and that he's not just filling time. You know what I mean? Like, Leinert's not the type of guy that's going to start talking some dude up just to talk him up for no reason. So that, on top of the fact that Ryan Day is, I think there are a lot of coaches that follow the legend
Starting point is 00:23:29 and they draft off him for a couple of years. And then you start to see the cracks and you go, okay, that's why the legend is the legend. That's why there's maybe only four or five of these guys that can run that kind of program. But the fact that Day, post-Urban, seems to have it at that level is pretty... I mean, it's not just pretty impressive.
Starting point is 00:23:49 It's almost unfathomable because it's not supposed to happen. That's why the other guy's a legend because he had it at that level. And the next guy isn't just supposed to be able to keep it there. And so far, that's what it feels like with that. And I can't get over the fact too, Ryan,
Starting point is 00:24:02 just touching on these top five teams at the top, is how hard it is to sustain it, man. When you're getting every – and I know these teams are inferior. We just talked about lack of talent. But you're going into situations and road games, noon kickoffs, stadiums that are empty. And to keep these kids playing at that level, when you talk about Clemson Oklahoma Alabama Georgia um and Ohio State is is just I mean it's I it's it's unprecedented um when you see and and look at the other teams that are trying to get you and they just continue to to get by and win these games
Starting point is 00:24:38 is incredible to me Oregon as you mentioned um that'll'll be both their second games of the season on the 11th. They're the highest preseason AP Pac-12 team at 11. They have a quarterback change. But talent-wise, I'd put their – honestly, I just think talent-wise, one through whatever, you have signed up and allowed to have jerseys. They've done a better job recruiting than anybody else the Pac-12 has. Some would say that they're just more aggressive than everybody else. Arizona State's probably in that
Starting point is 00:25:10 mix as far as their aggressiveness too. But, you know, USC's at 15. I know you're pretty plugged in out there. We don't have the Cardinal anywhere. Give me your assessment of the top of the Pac-12. I think Oregon, Washington
Starting point is 00:25:26 is the wild card to me because last year I still don't know what, I mean, they played minimal games, they won the North but couldn't play in the title game because of COVID. Stanford went up and beat them in a game I was like, this is Washington and I'm like, Stanford was alright.
Starting point is 00:25:42 They were playing a road game every week because they couldn't practice at their home on campus. But they're the wild card. I think they're favored now. They're going to Ann Arbor week two also. They have talent. Jimmy Lake's done a great job of sustaining that roster. But I think Oregon is a level
Starting point is 00:25:57 above in the North. And when you look at the South, I really think it's a free-for-all. Because I think Arizona State, UCLA, USC, and Utah can all win that division, all of them. So when it comes down to scheduling, you know, what does it look like? Utah gets Oregon to come to their place. You know, Washington, I don't think, plays SC or Utah.
Starting point is 00:26:20 So it's going to be one of those things where Oregon is going to need somebody in the South to have a credible win in that, in that, in that, say in that conference title game. But are they going to, I mean, they're going to be a good football team, but are they going to be, you know, seven and three, you know, with three losses that are all close in division. You know, you saw what UCLA is, is now. And I think with Chip is a really, really intriguing thing. They got LSU coming up here. But Chip in the preseason was really, really complimentary of his guys. And we know Chip.
Starting point is 00:26:56 He's not like that a lot. So if he's complimentary about his guys, he likes it. You're going to see that stuff you saw in the first week with just all the misdirection in the run game and just complicating things and making sure his guys have edges. The defense, you can't get a lot out of what they did against Hawaii. You talk about
Starting point is 00:27:15 the returning starters. I know Azanero loves the group he has, and Chip's talked about the cohesiveness, about how much time they spent together and how they bought in. UCLA is dangerous to me, but I think Utah is the team, just because I know lot of cohesiveness about how much time they spent together and how they bought in and uh ucla is dangerous to me but i think utah is the team just because i know what i'm getting there and when you look at the schedule also and they get brewers a kid from baylor who took a lot of shots the last couple years he's probably in that adrian martinez class where he kind of played his best ball as a
Starting point is 00:27:41 true freshman you know when he had when, you know, some guys around him. And then Fedora came into Baylor last year, that mix, they get a new DC and then he leaves for Salt Lake, but I would take Whittingham and my chances with Utah in the South there. Yeah. And another thing with UCLA too, and I don't, I don't always love this because I think NFL coaches do it all the time. And it really is like the average margin of victory is always almost one score, no matter what. And you're like, Oh, we had this many one score losses.
Starting point is 00:28:04 But if you looked at UCLA, if you just watched the product, it was better. But you're not allowed to say it when it's like a 3-14. But the six-point loss to Colorado opened the season. Then they miss a game. They don't play. Oh, that was weird because they had like a rescheduling of it. They lose to Oregon by three. They played Cal on a Sunday morning.
Starting point is 00:28:21 And then they lost to Stanford, UCLA, and Oregon. And they had fourth-quarter leads in every single game. Right. So if they're a little bit better, but then again, we may not even know until after LSU because if we switch it over to the SEC, there's no way LSU is going to be as bad as they were last year. I mean, if you ever want to talk – like I was kind of kidding around. We were joking, and I said, I wonder if we'd be better at college football predictions if we gave ourselves two weeks or if we just do what we do now.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Because there is no sport that we all talk about that we know less than. It's just it's it's impossible to know more. And we're talking about turnover in college and all these quarterbacks who like, look, if you're a top basketball recruit coming out of high school, the chances are we know where you're going to be somewhat impactful. Yeah, I mean, not everybody is, but it's definitely all over the place more so with quarterbacks and if you went back to last year you said okay you know how would i feel if i gave myself a couple weeks would i be better and you're like i don't know the mississippi state kid looked like he was going in the first round and winning the heisman and then he got benched so uh there's no way lsu will be as bad i would not think and I I seriously think too that what they were doing
Starting point is 00:29:25 with the quarterback is you know Max being the starter yeah he was the best guy that I saw at the position and in a weird way you were like why did it take so long to get to him um but there's just still too much talent there for LSU to be as bad as they were last year uh totally agree and that's why it's a fascinating matchup this week, because when you look at it, I go back to Max Johnson, as you mentioned, being the starter. And I watched the Florida, the shoe throw game again last week, and I still can't believe they won that game. Like you go back and watch what had to transpire for them to win. But for O to get his team to that point, I thought was pretty darn remarkable because it shows the guys are still bought in.
Starting point is 00:30:10 And the quarterback situation is all over the place. They finally get the kid Bootsy to get some targets and look what he does with the ball. They come back. They win a shootout against Ole Miss. They frustrate Corral enough. I think he threw all of his picks in like three games last year which is which is pretty crazy to me um but lsu i love i love johnson um as the quarterback there
Starting point is 00:30:31 because it gives you stability man like you look at these teams that struggle that have you know have done well recruiting it usually goes back to you know picking the wrong guy or or the wrong guy not winning the job in camp. So there's a lot going on there. They obviously evacuated to Houston. They're going out to Pasadena. Now people – you talked to people down there. I talked to people.
Starting point is 00:30:59 They were all planning on going out to the Rose Bowl for the game. Now you don't know. We saw what the crowd looked like for UCLA, so it's not going to be a really home game, but it never really is unless you play at Washington and Oregon in that conference. So with LSU, to me, you hear everybody talk about the West, and it's like Mississippi State's going to be better. Ole Miss is going to be better. Arkansas, remember them last year?
Starting point is 00:31:21 They started out well, and A&M's going to be better. But they all can't win nine or ten games, man. They're going to have to beat each other. So I know people are picking Bama to win it. I honestly think A&M has a really good chance to win that division. I look at Jimbo. He's a guy. He's won 78% of his games.
Starting point is 00:31:40 And when you look up and down the sport, and now we got Mack Brown in, but we lost less miles there's only that four or five that have won national titles jimbo's one of those guys and when you look at how he's constructed that rocker roster and you you know i i don't think you know it feels like to me the aggie fans have taken over as the number one fan base that sells their recruits like oh we got this guy he's a baller know, like they have pumped up their recruits more than anybody. So when you look at what they lost on the offensive line, you got no more excuses.
Starting point is 00:32:10 You got all these four and five stars coming in. You talk to people that are around the program that have seen Haynes King. I've never seen him, but they really like the idea of him in this offense and the dynamic that he brings and the different things he could do as opposed to Kellen Mond, which we watched for the last eight years in College Station. So I really think A&M,
Starting point is 00:32:31 they get Bama to come to College Station. We've been there for that game. We know how crazy it is. I think A&M's a real threat to Alabama in the West. I want to pick them just because I didn't want to pick the same four teams. I'm just not sure. I picked them last year, and that's how close I was.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Well, that was good though. Cause you're right there. And I would think, you know, even if you were, I probably wasn't as high on even the last version of Kellen Mond that we saw, like when people talk about him in the draft, I was like, man, I don't know. I've just watched him too many Saturdays where every series is like, it's not the same guy. It's like one series. You're like, oh my God, this guy's amazing.
Starting point is 00:33:03 And the next series is like, oh, this is why this is so frustrating. And the overall numbers are better. I get it. And King, if you watch, like, I think he was the number five dual threat coming out of this class anyway. So that's like the big thing with him. And you're like, well, wait, Mon actually ran it. So it's kind of funny to hear guys say like, oh, he adds another element. And you're like, well, wait, even when Mon was frustrating, he could always get out and run.
Starting point is 00:33:24 He was so big that that was a real weapon to him in the haines it's small i mean he looks pretty slight so we'll see um he's the higher regarded recruit between how it went down to the battle so i guess i'm not entirely shocked that it's him but the non-conference is kent colorado new mexico um jeez i don't even who's the other one here? Oh, Prairie View. Yeah. Prairie View is the game before LSU. So they finish at LSU, but they got... Trap game.
Starting point is 00:33:56 That's right. Take Prairie View in the points now. We're giving that one out for November 20th for you on that one. The other thing too about LSU, it was kind kind of funny is that there was even the thought that dickie brennan could get the job back and i don't i don't know i i think honestly i think they just liked him so much and he was around and he lost the job to burrow that they felt bad and then they gave him
Starting point is 00:34:18 the job then he breaks his arm and then there's like reports but like he could still come back you're like what he like he may come back and be on the team but I don't know that the other Nussmeier and Johnson would have to both be terrible. All right, let's look at Georgia then in the East because Brad was very,
Starting point is 00:34:36 I think it was very telling that he's like, look, when Georgia plays other teams that are in their stratosphere with the same amount of talent, it hasn't gone well. They beat up all the teams they're supposed to
Starting point is 00:34:44 but when they're supposed to beat these teams that are really good that they have the same amount of talent, it hasn't gone well. They beat up all the teams they're supposed to, but when they're supposed to beat these teams that are really good, they have the same recruiting rankings as. And that's the thing, is Kirby's been able to just roll the guys in there. They have Muschamp now on staff too, which has to help.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Sure do. But people, I don't know. I guess the Kirby thing, like sometimes I'll just be like, look, all right, so he lost to Bama. Like everybody loses to Bama. All the assistants lose to Saban. So what are we really talking about here?
Starting point is 00:35:07 Some major, major problem. But then again, if you're Georgia at some point, you're like, hey, we got to get through this at some point and beat one of these teams. Yeah, it's a weird dynamic, man. They got there that fast in the title game. You're right. It was like that. No, it's a great point.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And then they get into that predicament of, right they're the sec team that lost are they motivated to play in the sugar bowl against texas texas comes in we're back they win then they smoked them too that was that was like impressive and that and that's where you get you know you get the you know and then it gets to the point where the georgia players are being asked are you motivated to play in this game of course they're going to say yes you know so the next year they get baylor who was way on their man and was probably a couple snaps away from making the playoff uh in that in that uh big 12 title game against oklahoma i really i think that was kyler murray or no that was hertz's year and and then you look at Georgia with the – you know, then they come back. They lose to South Carolina early with Fromm. And it's just – you want – and I've said before, I have Georgia fatigue
Starting point is 00:36:11 because I don't understand why they keep getting the benefit of when they're – you know, the losses they have. It feels like they still get in higher regard. You know, a couple years ago they had Notre Dame come to them. They were a big favorite, and they, you know, squeaked by there. But what – it doesn't make sense to me is the recruiting there, okay? They've recruited out of the world, but now you look at it and they got offensive line issues now in camp,
Starting point is 00:36:40 and now without pickings they don't have a receiver. Like, how are you Georgia and you don't have a receiver like I think back to Aaron Murray like the receivers he had like Georgia's always had receivers and now you're worried that you don't have guys and against Clemson in a game where you know you have a chance to win that game and now it's going to be decided because you've recruited all five stars on the offensive line and and now you've got a couple injuries. I don't think they know who's going to play center yet, which is a serious problem, because when I watch Brisey for Clemson, number 11,
Starting point is 00:37:12 that's a guy that could just put him right in the middle and just say wreak havoc. So it's so puzzling to me. And I will say, I think they did get screwed last year when they had to transfer quarterback from Wake Forest, who I thought was going to be a good player. And then he bails on him in the middle of camp. So that screwed up their whole quarterback situation for the whole year. And, you know, they obviously didn't play that bad at Bama, but, you know, got seduced by the big plays. But they're just, I mean, and now you look at Florida in that division, who I think
Starting point is 00:37:44 is going to take a step back, even though I know Mullen's good with quarterbacks and they get Bama to come to them. But, like, I honestly think, like, Kentucky's probably the second-best team in the East. When you look at them, they've been, you know, running an offense from the early 1900s the last couple years and still, you know, winning football games.
Starting point is 00:38:04 But you get Levis, who's a former Connecticut quarterback. Yeah, I'm biased towards him because I want him to do well. But he was at Penn State. He left there. And then they get the kid from Wanda Robinson from Nebraska who was a huge playmaker, basically their best offensive player. And they get the guy from the Rams to come in and run the offense. So I think Kentucky's the second-best team in the East,
Starting point is 00:38:23 which gets me to the depth of that division. They have three first-year coaches, and I don't expect anything from those teams. So that looks like three easy wins to me with Vandy, South Carolina, and Tennessee. So I don't think Georgia's going to get challenged really much, and that's why I think this first game is what I want to see from them because it's one of the few times we I want to see from them because it's
Starting point is 00:38:45 one of the few times we're going to see them play against comparable talent. And just so I can clean up something when I said Texas smoked them, it was a one score game, but it was 28-7 in that bowl game of the 18 season. And if you watched it, the fact that Texas just ran all over them. So you score a couple of late touchdowns and make it a one score game. That doesn't do it for me, but I just know, I just know how it goes. It's going to be like, Oh, they smoked him.
Starting point is 00:39:07 It was 28, 21. You're like, yeah. Did you watch that and feel like they were close because they weren't. Um, all right. New set,
Starting point is 00:39:12 new segment should be Rosillo digging in box scores. That'd be good. That'd be good. Yeah. We'll put that in the B side of things. Give me, um, give me your Notre Dame take.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Uh, I've, I've getting crushed by this, but I think they have the best running back set in the country. They obviously got Mayer back at tight end. They got another young kid. I think he's from Cincinnati who's going to be a stud tight end. They obviously have offensive line guys.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I do think they're going to have a lot more speed at receiver, which I think is going to help Cone a ton because the one thing that was weird, and when you go back to Boykin and Claypool and those guys, especially last year with Ian, he didn't have any game. Guys on third and five that could just separate. I mean, Skoranek was a nice player. I still think he's on an NFL roster. I mean, he's a possession guy, but you didn't have
Starting point is 00:40:07 that elusive guy that you could put in the slot and help move the chains. I do think they got a lot to replace on defense. A fascinating game against Wisconsin at Soldier Field early this year. They get Cincinnati to come to them. They get Carolina to come to
Starting point is 00:40:23 them. Monday night, or Sunday night in Tallahassee I have no idea what to expect from Florida State like when you go in there and look at the transfer portal and look at their roster it's like they flipped it upside down
Starting point is 00:40:40 and they announced you know split quarterbacks with Milton and the other guy who beat North Carolina last year. But I'd be happy. I think 9-3 is the floor for Notre Dame. I really do. I think Cone's a guy who, when you go back and look, he had that big old knee brace on at Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:41:03 He still went to the Rose Bowl, and it was a crazy play at the end where Herbertbert runs that one in but i thought wisconsin was the better team going into that game and i i think cones i mean he's a locker room guy too you hear you hear people talk about how much wisconsin missed him when he left last year and you saw their downfall once that season got going um but i i be excited if I was a Notre Dame fan because you've got excitement, you've got playmakers, so much speed at running back. So I think the floor is 9-3 for them. Who's your favorite quarterback then in college?
Starting point is 00:41:34 Is it Howell? Yeah, I like Sam a lot. I'm really interested to see Ritter because, I mean, I see what he's capable of and I just want to see him on the road to Indiana, on the road at South Bend. Those are huge spots for him. I'll tell you there's a guy who
Starting point is 00:41:53 I really like a lot is Dylan Gabriel at UCF. I think he gets comparisons obviously from Hawaii and being a lefty to Tua and stuff like that, but you talk about being smooth and pretty with the football man like that guy i mean week in and week out like i think it was two years ago stanford went there i mean they had uh corner nfl corner pulse with debo's on the saints now um i mean they came out right at him, right at him. And I was like, holy cow.
Starting point is 00:42:25 I mean, deep balls, hitches, overs. He can make every throw. He's a guy that I really enjoy watching. I'm actually fired up Thursday night to see him against Bachmeier, the quarterback for Boise State. But I think Dylan Gabriel might be up there as my favorite guy. Wow, I was not expecting Dylan Gabriel. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:44 You want to do some over unders yeah let's do it what do you want Illinois three and a half can we still get that oh last week that's a win last week was a last week was a total um and that's why it was tough I said if I like I like to try and pick these so you don't have to sweat the whole season so Illinois just know yeah you just know right away so like illinois i think it was three and a half like there's no way they were getting the four without winning that game last week and nebraska on the other hand was six i think there's no way they're getting look at their schedule they have to go to norman in three weeks with that team they just put out in champagne
Starting point is 00:43:21 they're going to play at Oklahoma. Name that score. We'll see. We'll see if it's as bad. Because I actually, the crazy thing about the Nebraska game is I liked their, I love their ends. I love their,
Starting point is 00:43:34 especially when nothing is going right for you at any other element of the game, then your defense just starts going, all right, what are we doing out here? Yeah. I mean, that's why,
Starting point is 00:43:44 I mean, open with a, it sounds bad saying it, I mean, that's why, I mean, opening with a – it sounds bad saying it, but like Bielema, you know, he had no idea what to expect. And I know Frost is getting crushed for talking about the four-man front, but like there definitely was some things Bielema did to offset and frustrate Nebraska. You saw that offense, you know, struggle and then get it going late.
Starting point is 00:44:04 The problem for Nebraska is, though, is it's like, okay, what are you doing? And you just go, okay, it going late the problem for nebraska is though is it's like okay what are you doing and you just go okay it's the only game on we've been waiting a year and you guys it's the only like power five game that we got so then literally everyone is watching this game and then now the angst of nebraska if they just lost this on a normal saturday noon eastern window like they're certainly capable of doing again this year nobody would even give a shit so that was kind of my money you know it's my monday night football quarterback yeah where if you're the only thing that we're watching now literally everyone on social media becomes a nebraska expert um because i mean it was just a sloppy ugly game but i don't know i it's it's kind of funny because i read an article it's like now what do you do if you're nebraska you try frost
Starting point is 00:44:42 you're like you know maybe you stop firing people and giving everybody buyouts i know nebraska loves giving out buyouts but maybe maybe you stop doing that all right um give me uh give me another total here i got an over uh boston college is a team in the acc they're in clemson i'm telling i i really like the way this team's constructed uh last year you go back they lost four or five games to ranked teams. They went toe-to-toe with Clemson and North Carolina. Two losses combined, 10 points. They bring Djokovic back, who's an NFL quarterback, transferred from Notre Dame.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Zay Flowers is a receiver who might be the best in the conference. They got a kid, Trey Berry, who was an FCS All-American at Northwestern State, and he's going to be their tight end this dude's like six six a total stud and their offensive line all five are back they got the big kid zion who's he's a big kid i call him little damian woody that's what he reminds me of damian loves watching him uh so and you got rabel's son i believe he's going to be at left tackle but just the idea of Halfley coming in and admitting they were the first teams, I think, to pull the plug
Starting point is 00:45:48 on the previous year. And then him admitting that they were super vanilla last year and knowing what he could do defensively as we saw with that Ohio State team three years ago. I just like the idea. No Notre Dame, no North Carolina, no Miami on the schedule.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I like the way they're built. They got their quarterback, and their defense has got some transfers coming in. And I just think Boston College, when you look at that ACC, there's games that are there to be won. Now, they haven't won eight games since 2009, so we got that going against us, but we'll go BC. What is it? Com Ave will be rocking?
Starting point is 00:46:28 Com Ave will be rocking. Yeah. There we go. Depending on the nice stretch of Com Ave. People didn't believe me when I said that. Like, well, I lived on the nicest stretch of Com Ave towards BC, not the McShay part of Com Ave.
Starting point is 00:46:39 That's the beginning of the city. All right. I'm going to give you an over. We already did it. A&M, nine and a half. Okay. I'm sneaky, kind of wanting to pick them to win the west and then on staying with that theme i almost want to throw you an under on seven and a half old miss uh just because you go okay somebody has to be the fourth best team and the best team can they get to eight wins i mean they could you know they got louisville to open um you know i know that the voters like old miss even though they're not in there they're kind
Starting point is 00:47:08 of just outside of the top 25 in both the ap and the coaches and we know that they're going to score points i mean that's not but it's it's just is it going to break right for them in a year where we feel like they might be the fourth or fifth best team in the division and so then it's like okay so maybe uh maybe that's easy pickings at under seven and a half. Yeah, it's just a matter of can the defense get any stops? Yeah. And when it's come down to it, when they've needed it, they haven't even shown they can do it. And I know they won their bowl game against Indiana,
Starting point is 00:47:43 but Indiana was not even close to the team they were once Pennix got hurt. But I'm with you there because somebody – I would lean Mississippi State under also in that. I think Ole Miss might be a touch above Mississippi State, but both those teams, I don't expect them to go over their season win totals. I think they're up against it when you look at Alabama, A&M, and LSU. All right, I'll give you one more, and then you can finish this out. There we go. Give me some winners, kid.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Give me the over 7.5 for TCU. That's the wild card in that conference because, obviously, Oklahoma, Iowa State, right? So who's that third team? You talk about Oklahoma State, who's a team that, to me, it just feels like they underachieve. And they've always had a wide receiver. They always got the running back.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I don't know about that this year. But TCU, the quarterback's got some big guts, man. He's a tough kid. And you would think Patterson would get it going when those teams – in Texas, I put in that tier with TCU and Oklahoma State as who's going to challenge those top two teams. But, I mean, the track record shows you Patterson will be there. I don't know what to expect, but if I had to lean, I would go over there.
Starting point is 00:49:07 I do like Kansas State in that conference. I think that they're going to be heard from the way their schedule plays out. Okay. You got one more? You want to give out Kansas over one and a half wins? No, but I will give you, even though they looked as bad as they could and not as bad as their cleats melting on the Fresno State turf last week, I will give you UConn over.
Starting point is 00:49:32 It's not going to be pretty, but we get Yale, we get Holy Cross, and we got UMass. Okay? I heard UMass is heading in the right direction this year. And you also have Middle Tennessee. You get Wyoming to come to the rent. You never know. And you get Army.
Starting point is 00:49:49 You never know. But I would take my chances there. You saw their effect. How about, where is it? In 2018, they gave up 8.9 yards per play. That's almost impossible. Wait, UConn did? Yes. You're just throwing
Starting point is 00:50:08 out some bad UConn stats from a couple years ago? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It can't be worse. It's a first down every play. That's bad. That's not what you're looking for. You want to tighten that up. You know what you need to do? Come back next year. Because I was going to give out some awards and I just said screw it because it's the same thing over and over again. Because I can't wait
Starting point is 00:50:24 to see what happens with Michigan new coordinators a whole deal everybody's really young they went young and then they were like we're playing music you're like oh yeah guys are playing music at practice it's gonna be awesome this year and I'm not even doing that it's just the whole idea of every time you get rid of everybody then you come in the next year and you're more aggressive you play music and the energy is better. And it may very well be that because I think some of the assistants before were almost a hundred. Yes. And I give him credit for that. You know, knowing how different the recruiting rankings in and seeing how important social media is now in recruiting. But when you look at their roster, they just don't have any guys that you're scared of. Like,
Starting point is 00:51:04 Hey, we got to double cover this guy this week. When we play Michigan, we got to make sure we have this guy accounted for. They just don't have those guys. There's no threat of being scared or big play capability. And that's what worries me with Michigan, which seems like they've always had an NFL receiver or running back. And I just don't see it on the roster. has had an NFL receiver or running back. And I just don't see it on the roster.
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Starting point is 00:52:34 Life advice is lifeadvicerr at gmail.com. Okay, here we go, guys. This one's heavy, but I think we can get through it. 510180, found myself in an uncomfortable situation with my wife, her boss slash friend. Some background, we have three kids, we're 32. I got her pregnant at the end of her freshman year of college and fortunately everything's worked out since. All right, we're generally happy with our lives, make decent money
Starting point is 00:52:55 and I'm not even gonna say where they live. As you might imagine, we both struggle with the loss of our youth, spending our 20s changing diapers and losing sleep over fussy children rather than partying and traveling. We've worked really hard to get where we're at now. My wife struggled with school and really should have gotten into a trade, but her parents are dicks and she was pretty. So despite her love of manual labor, she was forced to a private school, education, and college.
Starting point is 00:53:21 I don't understand the pretty part of this and Whatever. Okay. All right. So she spent the first 12 years of our marriage at home with the kids doing school when she could and supporting me as I got degrees and worked my ass off to make money. During COVID, while my job easily translated to working at home, she formed a relationship with a local contractor painter and began working for him. She's smart, attractive, and competent. So she's been very valuable over the last past year in the business, helping it grow. And she's also got out of the house doing the work she loves. She's also grown close to her boss, a 40-ish dude who's married to a Brazilian bombshell,
Starting point is 00:53:54 though he's a dumpy alcoholic short white dude. Okay. A lot of stuff there. He has no kids, but over the past year, he's become a great friend to her as they run the business along with being my friend and a great quasi uncle to our kids. My wife's always gotten along better with guys than women. She has strong female friends, but I've made peace with the fact that she forms close relationships with dudes. Unfortunately, her relationship with her boss took a turn when both of them, drunk at a bar at a questionable moment, she was super comfortable with him
Starting point is 00:54:21 and felt it was okay to do an up and down touch and feel with her breasts which are quite uneven it's actually science that does happen um just so he could realize their unevenness i've never cared about uh there's lack of congruity they're not dramatically uneven okay uh but she has large breasts and despite the damage that three breastfed kids did to them. All right. All checks out. I got home from a men's basketball game where I rolled my ankle and she sat me down and told me we're very honest with each other. And I can't express given how much we've been through that. I believe it was her trying to be one of the guys just fucking around. Look, I'm not ending my marriage over this. It's just frustrating. I see the big picture of the situation because this guy has no kids and she could take over his business someday. We have a
Starting point is 00:55:03 special needs child who's five and I see him working with his mom one day painting because that might be all he can do. All right. Um, I don't know if that's true, but I get your point here. She's upset knowing she crossed the line and she's always upfront about her and her boss's relationships with me. They go on networking lunches a lot and I'm okay with it because she spent so much time with the kids. I'm happy she's getting out in the world. The problem is that she's somewhat sheltered, given that we spent our time in our 20s, right? And now she's learning about going out and that stuff. I'm frustrated because I love the situation for her
Starting point is 00:55:32 and down the line for her son, but I'm mad at her and her boss, who I consider a friend, that they thought this was okay. I understand it wasn't sexual, but no dude should be touching my wife's breasts, regardless of how interesting their juxtaposition is. I'm not sure how to feel about this.
Starting point is 00:55:43 I honestly want to keep her working with him because it's good for her on and on and on. It's an awkward situation. Okay. Yeah, you know, look, I think on the realm of if we had a sliding scale of stuff that could be happening, you know, and the cheating part of it is the straight up, hey, married and an affair, hotel rooms,
Starting point is 00:56:05 maybe even a weekend together, lies and lies and lies that could ruin a family and forever damage the relationship. Or somehow people get through that. Some of you have, some of you haven't. Who knows? I can't imagine the guilt part if I was going to try to pull something like that off. Or you just go, hey, the love is, it's a void, and now I'm doing what I need to do to survive, or maybe your wife's doing it to you because that's just the instinct of it all, right? All right, a lot of factors, a lot of factors. You luckily have none of that happening. When I try to think of all the times if I were married, which obviously I spent a great deal of time examining, but if I were to think back of like what,
Starting point is 00:56:46 what could happen where you'd be like, all right, this is acceptable. Like cast away. I think Helen Hunt making out with Tom Hanks in the garage before he gets his Jeep back, like that one's acceptable. Like if my wife were going to marry a guy that landed, you know, his plane crashed and he ended up on a deserted Island for years. And then he magically made it back on a raft. And then she made out with him real quick in the garage. I think I'd be able to process that one. So that's the castaway. In this case, I think the problem is here is that it's great that your wife is this honest and you've rationalized it for her.
Starting point is 00:57:19 You've thought it all out, which is really admirable. And you don't seem like raging upset. You're just upset about the situation. I think the fact is the guy here doesn't have any respect for you. You may think he does, or maybe you do get along. I mean, you've mentioned that you get along here, but he, this is what, this is what I know about like, and this is male or female, by the way, but you'll kind of like see what you can get away with, right? And you'll, you'll test it. You know, those guys that I'll know, and I can just tell like what they're doing and they're like throwing something out there to see what kind of reaction
Starting point is 00:57:55 they get. And so if this guy's a drunk and he's just kind of getting after it and your wife is really attractive and they're together all the time. It's not great that she put herself in this situation, but at the same time, the fact the guy was more than down for, you know, I guess we're saying an unsupervised examination here, um, that it's, um, this is a guess, but I wonder if this is a guy being like, let me see how far I can go with this. And then maybe I'm planting the seed for something else down the road. So I would have a major problem with my wife going back to work for this guy. If we're talking about painting and local contracting stuff, she could go ahead and make a business card and get out there and do this on her own and probably a very short amount of time. That's what advertising is for. And it might end
Starting point is 00:58:51 up being a great move for her to go ahead and start to do this on her own. And you can get her away from this guy. I mean, if he is all of these things that you said, he is describing him this way, then I would think long-term, I wouldn't want my wife hanging out with this kind of guy in the first place, especially if he, like, I don't know if you talk to this guy about it. Like I just, my sense is it's this guy, if your wife is that attractive, it's like, Hey, this is kind of cool. And then, you know, now we'll, now we'll see where this goes. Even if your wife is sort of horrified that she did it. And just to even have some element of that going on. Um, I wouldn't be able to deal with that. It doesn't sound like you would either.
Starting point is 00:59:30 And I'd be curious what would happen. It's like, hey, I'd prefer if you weren't actually like working with that guy or if you're only working with them, not going out and doing that. But it isn't the end of the world. Or, you know, maybe some people process it differently and say, hey, it's actually not that big of a deal if everybody knows each other. I don't know. I don't know that I would go there with it. But the fact that he would do it I think is maybe more problematic than your wife doing this.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Kyle, you got anything for us on this one? Yeah, a few things. I think this guy has a good sense of humor about it. I liked all his descriptor words about congruencies and stuff like that. I think that really had a little levity to the situation um but uh it's definitely like in a perfect world free the nipple but i know it's not a perfect world so i guess what i'm saying is is like women like with their friends will do that it's not like guys like it's like
Starting point is 01:00:21 it'd be weird if like guys were like showing their balls to each other. But like women like do that to their friends. And maybe this was like a situation of like, you know, forgot where we were and who we were. But I'm just like friends with you and we're drunk. And then maybe everybody kind of came back to reality. And I think you're right. The guy sort of is doing the see what he can get away with stuff. So for the husband, just kind of remember like a reality check to you. Like, oh, man, everybody doesn't care about how you feel.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Like, so I think it's like a little bit of everything. But like you said, I think it's not the end of the world that's a little uncomfortable. But I mean, like the guy said, I don't think you can say, I don't want to have her working there because you really can't have her working, whatever. So I think you just got to kind of let her
Starting point is 01:01:02 decide how she wants to move forward. And if she wants to start her own business and have overhead for painting, yeah, fine. But if not, just remember that that guy isn't your friend. He's really only her coworker and he only cares about himself. But it's not the end of the world. You got painting overhead in there too, which I'm impressed by. Yeah, you need a truck and you need paint, right, and stuff. head in there too which i'm i'm impressed by you need a truck and you need paint right and stuff yeah but overhead for painting is is way cheaper than overhead for other stuff manual labor i mean
Starting point is 01:01:31 talking you know air guns roofing framing you have a completely different setup finish carpentry flooring you know we're talking a lot of different systems. If she drives a sedan, though, that's just another couple thousand dollars you're going to have to work around. I have an important meeting here in just a matter of minutes, so I'm going to do one more that we got a lot of here. I'm sorry this isn't the longest life advice we've ever done. The number of people that have written in to defend the CrossFit pull-up. Look, it's just easier, man.
Starting point is 01:02:10 It's just easier. Good for you. You know, I always say about it, anybody that's out there doing it, that's great. But like we had a Will Kane Hasselbeck pull-up thing. And I remember sitting there in disbelief being like, wait, you said you can do 30 pull-ups. He's like, yeah, I can do 30 pull-ups. I'm like, you can just do 30 straight pull-up thing and I remember sitting there in disbelief being like wait you said you can do 30 pull-ups he's like yeah I can do 30 pull-ups I'm like you can just do 30 straight pull-ups he's like well no the the what is it the Kipling I think I don't know and I was like okay well then like that's not yeah if you have to raise the caveat then it's you can't do it period because there's almost right there's not I don't know that there's any guys just walking down the
Starting point is 01:02:45 street they could do 30 pull-ups 30 normal pull-ups unless you're just a freak gymnast guy who like somehow specializes in pull-ups yeah like jeremy scott could do 30 pull-ups i don't know if he could do 30 pull-ups because he's pretty big 30 pull-ups is a ton of pull-ups i don't think you're giving pull-ups enough respect. Maybe not, but I think I'm giving Jeremy the proper respect. I don't know. I just don't understand. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:12 I don't understand why you would care that much. It's kind of like the whole soccer thing. It's like it's not soccer. It's soccer guys. So I'm just telling you, I get that this movement is an actual exercise. It's just not the same. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:29 It's like the sumo deadlift person, legs as far apart as possible, cross grip, you know, and then it's like, hey, look at my new personal record deadlifting or some of the guys that do these bench things that I still can't believe. You're like, what was that rep? That went like four inches. What was that? And you're like, oh, crush it. 315 again.
Starting point is 01:03:52 And you're like, well, then these are different things. And I don't know why we have to pretend they're not different things. And I just think the push-ups or excuse me, the pull-ups. I didn't know. Yeah, we had the guy saying the CrossFit push-up. And I was totally lost at that one. So I guess it's just my final statement on the pull-ups. I didn't know. Yeah, we had the guy saying the CrossFit push-up, and I was totally lost at that one. So I guess it's just my final statement on the pull-up thing. I don't know why it's being argued.
Starting point is 01:04:14 The fact that you're out there doing it, whatever exercise it is, that's great. You deserve all the credit in the world. I'm just not going to... Don't tell people, don't tell random people you can do 30 pull-ups, because you can't do it the way most of us have processed pull-ups. Unless you get one of those certificates.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Yeah, go ahead. Do non-wide grip regular pull-ups count to you? Yeah. Wide grip because it's even harder. Non-wide grip. I'm saying close grip. What do you mean? Like turned around?
Starting point is 01:04:42 I don't know. Turned, not turned. I would be devastated if you said they didn't count. Thank you. Here's what I would also ask. How many times do you guys have to update your personal number on a pull-up
Starting point is 01:04:49 just in your everyday life? Does it happen much? It's been a while. Exactly. Maybe since like junior high certificate? That was a big deal though. I remember all my stats from junior high, like the mile, all that stuff,
Starting point is 01:05:02 the pull-ups and sit-ups. What was your best pull-up? I always had my stats ready for anyone to ask me about it my mile was like 5 45 i was fast what's up i am fast well i was fast last week i ran a black pepper snake okay uh that'll do it again life advice rr at gmail make sure you subscribe and uh coming up uh later this week we're gonna book mcfarland We'll do some college and NFL. And then Scott Hanson, Red Zone style. So a lot of football as we gear up for the first real week of college ball. And then, of course, going into next week, we'll be back with three podcasts.
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