The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Trent Dilfer on the Bengals' Statement Win, Chiefs Disaster, and Tua Optimism

Episode Date: October 25, 2021

Russillo shares some thoughts on the Bengals' win over the Ravens and the Chiefs' blowout loss to the Titans (0:28), before he is joined by Super Bowl champion Trent Dilfer to discuss todays football headline: "The Bengals Are Good!" They discuss Joe Burrow's NFL proficiency, Trent describes what it's like when a QB is synced with a WR in the same way Joe Burrow is with Ja'Marr Chase, why the Chiefs' offense has been less effective vs. their opponents, Trent's optimism for Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa, whether Jared Goff can be the Lions' QB of the future, a tough game for Justin Fields vs. the Buccaneers, and more (6:50). Finally, Ryen answers some listener-submitted Life Advice questions (41:50). Host: Ryen Russillo Guest: Trent Dilfer Producers: Kyle Crichton and Steve Ceruti Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

today on the podcast we have trent dilfer i'm going to start with cincinnati which is everybody's favorite team on a monday after their big win against baltimore kansas city we still can't figure it out as it gets worse every single week we'll talk about some of the other quarterbacks and one name that trent wants you to learn for next year's NFL draft. We're going to get to Dilfer pretty quickly here as we start today's podcast. But there are a couple things that I want to touch on. And that is everywhere you turn right now, the Cincinnati Bengals are the headliner. They're the headliner on Monday Morning Quarterback. They're the headliner on some of the athletic stuff that I check out all the time.

And that's because I think they're good. Look, this is probably a little bit halfway through the season. Maybe it doesn't really mean that much. But Cincinnati is right now the number one seed in the AFC. And if you go through the AFC the way the playoff would go to this point, what I've learned at both conferences here, that first tier of teams has totally separated itself. I mean, look at the NFC, for example. Arizona, we still know, is undefeated. Tampa rolls.

Green Bay, no issue. Six straight. Cowboys are good. The Rams are good. That's five teams with only one loss or undefeated Arizona. On the other side of all the AFC teams that we've gone through here, and this isn't that

different in that it's unpredictable how we cycle through these week to week, but for a bit there, it's the Bills, hey, it's the defense, and it's Josh Allen. Okay, that's fine. Then it's Baltimore because of what they do to the Chargers. I'm not going to now say, all right, well, that means Cincinnati is better. My point is I think all these teams are pretty good.

I'm a little surprised to see Vegas as the two seed. And even Tennessee, who puts it on Kansas City yesterday at 5-2. Tennessee last year, you know the deal was. We knew what they could do offensively, but we hated their defense. Their defense isn't that much better. It's still 24th in opponent's yard to play, but that's a team that's figured some things out here after starting the season with a loss to Arizona that we didn't really quite understand what that meant.

So their losses are Arizona and then the Jets loss, which is weird and make sense. But Tennessee sitting there five and two, like it's just the top of both conferences seems to be very crowded with teams that we could cycle through every week saying, Hey, I can make an argument for this team being the best in their conference. And I think that's kind of the lesson of all of this. I'm not now pivoting away from,

Hey, I don't think the bills are any good because they have a second loss. I don't think the Ravens are any good because they have a loss like this. I just think all of these teams are interchangeable. And on top of Kansas City being a disaster, which I'm going to get to here in a second, that just gives you, it just gives you like, it's basically kind of that MVP thing that we have. We say, hey, it's this team or this player, and it's not even close.

It is very close is the point. It is very, very close at the top of both conferences. And from here on out the rest of the way, we're probably just going to see all these different teams kind of own the headlines for a week. Cincinnati deserves it, though. They lost to the Ravens five straight. They have not had a top 10 defense for the longest time. They're fifth in total defense right now.

Jamar Chase is a matchup problem. They did a really good job in free agency. So there's just a lot to like with this football team. Okay, let's get to the Chiefs. It's 27-3, lost to Tennessee. Before this weekend, we could at least say with the Chiefs, well, you know what, actually their offense is still pretty good. Look at some of the stuff they did.

Look what they did at Washington last week. They're going to have to figure out their defense. Maybe it's going to be a problem, but they're still going to have this offense at some point. Well, as of now, they're not even in the playoffs. They basically shut out the entire game by a Tennessee team that, yeah, I'm telling you, I like them, but that defense isn't any good. It's not any good

statistically. It's better than maybe what it was because their secondary was just off the charts bad last season. But Kansas City can't score. Mahomes gets destroyed on the last play that he was in the game. He went into the concussion protocol. He said he passed, so he'll be back. Chris Jones got hurt again.

Another one of their guys got hurt. They had a bunch of injuries, but there's a stat now on them that argues basically the Chiefs, and this is from Mike Sandoz's athletic piece that he starts every Monday with, the Chiefs are a minus 9.2 on expected points allowed. So that means they're already at like a 9 point deficit statistically when they start a game because of how historically bad this defense is.

And he goes back and looks through it. They're the second worst defense since 2015 when the New Orleans Saints were just a little bit worse than this one. So that's what you're talking about. You're almost down double digits to start the game because that's what your defense is projected to do, or in this case, not do. Like I said, when the offense was still putting up some stats and you thought, okay, this is fine. We're going to ask Dilfer about all this stuff stuff too but I could at least go back to that but that was so bad I don't really know what else to say it'd be it'd be like for me it'd be as if Steph Curry after a few years in the league just couldn't hit jumpers anymore and you just go wait wait is this

is this all fake like has this been a mirage? Did they figure him out? Because there still is a little of that stuff. And look, I thought it was a joke last week. I said, hey, I'll buy all the chief stock in the world. I don't feel that way now. I don't. And I thought for sure.

I was like, yeah, they'll probably still get 10 wins and then we'll figure this thing out and see what happens. I don't feel that way now. I don't. I think it's getting uglier and uglier. I don't think that Mah now. I don't. I think it's getting uglier and uglier. I don't think that Mahomes has been figured out. I know this isn't the greatest example, but I remember when Mangini used to be in studio, we would talk about like, what do you do when you have no quarterback? And he's like, it sucks because you're starting week one going, we don't

really have any chance, do we? And everybody in the building knows it, but we were always hoping to do. And he's like, that's why I'm Matt Castle. That's why, um, you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick, that's why some of these guys float around as much as they do, because you're like, at least this person has done it before. Um, I'm not comparing Patrick Mahomes and Matt Castle and Ryan Fitzpatrick, but what I'm saying is it just seems impossible that somebody who played the game with such ease and was probably the quickest I've ever allowed myself to say, hey, he's probably going to be

the best to ever play the position when it's all said and done. Resume-wise, it's going to be nearly impossible to catch Brady. But from a talent standpoint, it's that special. And now it's a mess.

It's a mess. And I can't believe what I was watching for three hours against Tennessee. Hey, weekly visit here with Trent Dilfer. The headline everywhere, Trent, for the NFL is Joe Burrow in the show. And what he and Jamar Chase did to the Ravens, what they did defensively as well. Look, I just think Cincinnati's good. It was before this week I thought that they were good.

What are you seeing from them now? See, I didn't. That's really interesting. I'm not saying I thought they were bad. I guess I was like everybody else. They were an afterthought. It was like, oh, okay, they're going to make some strides. They're going to be okay.

And then I watched that game yesterday, and they got the right stuff, man. I think it starts with the quarterback. His intangible talent even exceeds his physical talent. He just has it. That's what most people know it as. He's got the it factor.

His teammates, his coaches, the community love him. He's a tough guy. He's got dude qualities, as we've talked about. And then he's got it from a playing standpoint. He's not super flashy. He can do some cool athletic stuff, as we know. But he does all the little things, the boring things,

the things you don't really think that much about until you see him pay off. He does that in spades. He plays the position at a very high level. Considering he hasn't played it a lot, right? What week did he get hurt in last year? Six? Something like that?

So am I right there? Yeah, I thought there were two and seven or something like that. Okay, so he played eight, nine games. He's played six this year. That's not a lot of football in the NFL. He's playing it like he's played it for seven, eight, nine years. Reminds me a lot of Russell. Different type of play.

Obviously, very different quarterbacks, but Russell from an early age, early starting, you're like, oh my gosh, he plays this with nuance. He plays this artistically, as Steve Young would say, and he's going to be really good. I think Burrow's going to be a guy we're going to be talking about for years. I think they feed off that. I think there's a lot of confidence within the organization

because of that. Jamar Chase obviously is a fantastic talent. I don't think this just surprised anybody. You watch LSU as close as anybody, right? Those dudes they had two years ago at LSU is as good a receiver as you'll ever see in college football. They were pro-ready while they were playing in college.

Again, a guy that is not just run fast, catch the ball, run after catch. It's the little things. He's a really good route runner. He has great run after catch ability. He understands space and timing. That's one thing that pops out about those two. It gets talked about pre-draft. Hey, we're going to draft your college receiver and they're going to have great rapport. Yeah, that's a factual statement. What is that rapport? It's kind of like thinking each other's

thoughts and seeing the field the same way. It's when I'm ready for you to make your break, you're making it because you know I'm ready to make your break. You see those little things pop up, especially those crossing routes they ran yesterday that they busted out for big gains. Those aren't big gains if they're not executed with the right timing. And then defensively, or just I would say physicality, they're way more physical than I thought they'd be, both defensively and offensively. So I did not think they were very good until yesterday. Now I think they're very good good and I think those are some of the reasons why okay yeah that that's a lot there because the chase part of it you know some people like Jefferson better because he was this crisp like technician route runner right um but physically you know Jamar was somebody that was gonna I always liked that he was

gonna hit you back a little as a receiver and we don don't, we don't always get to see that. And you know, the, the off season was kind of weird because you didn't know what to expect with Burrow. Like I was reading Sandoz stuff and Sandoz was saying that there was another executive that thought his leg looked atrophied. And it's like, well, okay, maybe it just is because he hasn't worked out. And then you've got Jamar saying he can't catch footballs um which was i don't know what to believe on that one because i've seen it played out both ways that it was a weird thing for him to say but it was also him actually being specific saying this football's different and it's harder for me to see right now that's it i'm just making that point like i didn't think all of

a sudden this guy couldn't make plays so now to see him like i just what does a guy like that do for you as a quarterback when you have like a no-doubt, wins every 50-50 ball, I'm not calling him DeAndre Hopkins, but knowing you can throw to Hopkins and he solves your problems, what is that like for you as a quarterback? Who is that guy for you? Well, I didn't have it in the pros. I had it in college.

Five of my receivers in college played in the NFL. Charlie Jones played for a long time. Titus Winans, Malcolm Seabrohm played for five, six, seven years. And I'll just go back and that's a hundred years ago, but it was, it was so awesome because you didn't have to be perfect, right? So much of why quarterbacks struggle at times is because they think they have to be perfect and nobody does anything well when you think you have to be perfect. You prepare to be perfect, and then you just want to let it rip. When you have dudes that make you right, you're more decisive. You've heard me say that a lot.

You want quarterbacks to be really decisive in their decisions and when they release the ball. And when you have that guy, you play with no fear. You're more decisive. You play faster. You're not waiting for things to happen perfectly. You take pressure off yourself. I never had it in the NFL.

The best receivers I had in the NFL, I mean, Shannon Sharp was the best. He was a tight end in his 13th year because he understood all the nuance of it. Antonio Bryant was very gifted. And when I played with him in Cleveland, we were just starting to get some rapport. He was the first guy I felt like could win those balls that you weren't perfect on. But there was some temperamental stuff

around that too. Played with him in San Francisco, same type of thing. Like you could see the talent, you could see the ability to make plays on Sundays, but it was all, could you trust him

to always be in the right spot? Daryl Jackson, more of an underneath guy in Seattle, was a guy that, and Bobby Ingram, those are two more ball control guys that over time you felt like they're going to make you right underneath. But to have a guy that can make you right underneath, make you right in the vertical game, you can trust. A lot of the NFL games become, we have all these zone beater plays because you have to create all these uh interesting ways of beating combo zones and fire zones and

then a team plays you man and really when they play you man it's pick a guy let it fly and you better have that guy and i think that's that's the combo everybody's looking for is the craftsman against zone you can trust him to do all the little things well. And then against man, he's a matchup nightmare no matter who you have on the other side. And that's where you see Hopkins, OBJ when he was healthy and rolling. The best of the best are the guys that

it doesn't matter who's covering him. It doesn't matter what the man technique is. Really, you're looking at a handful of routes, right? You're going to run go balls. You're going to run back shoulders. You're going to run slants. And you're going to run some type of whip concept. I mean, that's really all teams do against man.

And you've got to be able to win those. And that's what Jamar is going to be able to allow Burrow to have that comfort when a team tries to play man and be aggressive. He knows who he's going to with the with the ball you mentioned uh russell wilson in there quickly uh we know he's hurt but have you ever simulated a two-minute drill on the field before a game kicked off you know drew breeze really started all that right it was uh peyton manning really started the pregame. It was dorky to do that stuff. Okay, so let me give you like this stuff. So I came in when your Marinos and Elways and Aikmans and Moons

and Kellys and Favre, you know, that was the group. I mean, Boomer Esiason was still playing. It was you as a young quarterback did whatever they did. And it almost felt like those dudes rolled out, just had a shot of Jack and smoked a cigarette. That's what, that's what pregame felt like. You know, they're just kind of lollygagging around. Marino, you know, sometimes they'd have their pads on.

Sometimes they wouldn't. Toss it around a little bit, throw a couple routes, go back in, probably smoke another cigarette, come back out with your stuff on and get your blood flowing and go. So that's what we all did, right? We all kind of came out more nonchalantly, used pregame as just kind of a get your mind right, get your body right thing. Well, then Peyton rolls up and he's doing this hundred and something catalog pregame throw, going through drops, has his whole army out there, coaches throwing him balls.

And honestly, we kind of giggled at first. What's this guy doing? Well, you know, seven Pro Bowls later, you're not giggling, right? You're like, well, maybe there's something to that. So a lot of us late in our careers started doing more purposeful stuff and bringing playing the game before the game but then drew took it to another level drew was the first guy I remember coming out doing kind of the Peyton Manning script but like air playing out a drive going through you know a drop here's this guy I'm gonna duck underneath that Maya's got to go to there I

got a slide step I got a star I'm sidearm it to the check down and really doing those air reps as if it were a drive. I think Russell's taking, now everybody's doing some version of it and they should be. It's proven. These human performance coaches that deal with the psychology of competition, visualization, air reps, all these different things matter. I mean, they increase performance. So I think now you're just seeing the next iteration of it. You know, here's a guy that's on IR, uh, and he's out there getting real reps because that's what the human performance guys will tell you that those are real reps. If they're reps in your brain, they're real reps. So I applaud these guys who, again, there's so many things I wish I would have done differently.

We could sit down forever. We can do a week series on the things I would change. That would be one of them, is that I would have taken that approach much more serious. As I do as a coach now, I'll call an entire game on Friday afternoon in my office, sitting just like this, on this chair with my feet, just like they are with my script, eyes closed, visualizing defense, visualizing situations,

visualizing a guy going down, chaos on the sideline, whatever it is. I wish I would have done that as a player. I would have been a heck of a much better player than I was. No kidding. So you guys, your generation was just, that wasn't cool. No.

It's not just it wasn't cool. Nobody did it, right? And all you're doing as a young player is trying to mimic the guys you grow up idolizing, right? So it's like I remember I tried to change my release one year because I practiced Dan Marino for three days straight in Miami. Tried to drop the ball down lower and all these different things that jacked me up for a year. tried to drop the ball down lower and all these different things. It jacked me up for a year. But you didn't have a lot of resources except looking at the guys that did it.

And that generation didn't treat pregame with the same level of intensity or purposefulness as this generation does. Was Marino kind of nasty? He was great to me. He was great to me. He was great to me, but yes, he was nasty. I'll never forget. We're in Miami practicing at their facility. This is probably 97, 98.

And this is just right when we're starting to get good. That Tampa defense is just starting to get good. Really good. And he's having a horrible practice. I mean, we're owning them in seven on seven team drills, just getting out for the dolphins. And he just gets after, he starts with the coaches and then he goes to the receivers and then he goes the offensive line. And it's just, he went person by person in front of all of us

and just rip them new ones. And I'm sitting there in my third, fourth year, whatever it was, again, thinking that's the way to do it. Now, you forget, you gotta have context there. He has equity built up, right? He's Dan Flippen Marino. He can say whatever he wants to whoever he wants. But it was definitely a different way of looking at leadership. He did it very confrontationally and was on with how he did it. It worked for him. I wouldn't suggest it for many

other people. Yeah, that sounds about right. All right. This could have been the headline of everything. And I know we've already talked about it before, but before when the Chiefs were losing, it was because the defense and yet statistically you could still point to the offense and say okay mahomes is making some bad mistakes i don't know what the hell we just watched yesterday go for it it's been trending this way and it's this is where my coach hat will come on but also i put my espn hat on here where i would study football like study trends study teams because you know you had 90 seconds to talk about 20 minutes of information um

football offensive football has grown a lot one thing hasn't changed you have to have a physical presence offensively. And I'll, I'll explain it the easiest way. The defense has to be threatened from the inside out. When they're threatened from the inside out, they have to compact, right? They have to come in. Not every defense coordinator will tell you, every defense player will tell you they hate being gutted inside. So if you can threaten them inside, this doesn't, it doesn't always have to be boring stuff,

right? It doesn't always have to be two back ISO six offensive line, but you've got to make them come in, right? You got to make them protect their house, which is the inside. Once you've done that, now all the stuff that chiefs do is obviously the best. It's

incredible. People steal it. It was like Mike Martz of the Rams. They were so awesome. Everybody stole their stuff. But that stuff doesn't work if the defense now is an umbrella, if they're outside in. If they're not worried about the inside, then they play you from the outside and just kind of condense everything. What happens to an offense when you become that is you become frenetic. And you get away, and here's the key to all this. Most people probably roll in their eyes like, what does that mean to me? I'm playing fantasy football. Here's why it matters. Because what, same thing that makes you laugh makes you cry so all those

giggling moments from the homeless magical tyree kill catch the little ball and goes for 40 travis kelsey has 13 catches they throw a ball guy i've never heard of number 17 he goes for 70 all the cool stuff they've done that made you giggle well now they're trying to do the same stuff it's making you cry because cry because now it's done frenetically because there's no threatening to the defense inside out. So what the defense says conceptually is, great, let them do all this stuff. We're going to flood those areas with a bunch of people.

And we're going to get beat sometimes. He's probably still going to have 25 completions. But in the course of a 60-play game, we're going to hit them more times than we would have hit them otherwise. He's going to try to, he's going to get bored doing that stuff and look for something better. And we're going to get them out of their comfort zone. And when they're out of their comfort zone, more chaos will happen and we'll be able to turn them over. And that's what's happened. It's Tony Dungy's philosophy forever. That Tampa two defense, it's just done a bunch

of different ways. Now people call it Ben, but don't break, but it's even more than that. It's like, I'm not even worried about the inside. So I'm just going to, I'm just going to be an accordion on you and crush you from the outside in. And eventually over time, you're going to get your yards, but it's not going to get your points. And as I mean, I'm sorry, way too long of an answer. There's no physicalityity there's no threatening of the defense inside there's no boring inside handoffs that go for six then he repeats the play and it goes for four and then they run another inside play and it goes for eight and then all of a sudden the defense is reacting and you're getting a different call now they're in

here well guess what when they're in here guess who, guess what? When they're in here, guess who's really open out there? All those talented players. So I think it's partly Andy Reid's fault. I think he's gotten too spread happy. I think it's Mahomes' fault for not just taking the cheese more often. I think they retooled their offensive line. I don't think it's not worked well from a physicality standpoint, and it's causing them a lot of problems and then you compound that with the defense being you know mediocre um they're not playing as physical uh and

you know it snowballs on you can you get it back absolutely and i and i think they will but that's a dill for answer that could have taken 30 seconds to say instead i took eight minutes um but there's it's it's a conceptual thing. It's how you look at football. Yeah, but that makes sense. I guess the hard part would be, okay, what's going to take them so long? Because you had brought this up before, and you're right that it was kind of trending this way.

And then to see it just be a disaster for three hours where the Chiefs are getting shut out and you're going, okay, well, now what? Now how can you let it get to this point? Think of it this way. This came to my head. I can see the fans saying, why don't they just throw that little eight-yard route? My wife says this stuff.

Why aren't they just throwing the ball to Tyreek Hill? Why don't they just throw Kelsey that little out route? You know what? And I go, because, sweetie, you can't do that every time because now the defense isn't threatened to play from the ball all the way to the sideline to the back of the end zone. Like, that's really what you want a defense to feel. You want them to feel that they have to defend from the center of the ball

to both sidelines to the back of the end zone, wherever they're at. You want them to feel like they have to have all that accounted for. And if you just keep doing the easy stuff, the stuff that the fan and many coaches thinks just easy, it's low hanging fruit. Well, then you're really not making the defense do that stuff, right? They're not having to defend the middle of the ball, the inside of the D the inside of the offense, the side of the defense.

So you got to be willing. Some coaches call them purpose plays, some call them identity plays, whatever you want to call them. You got to be willing to do really boring, monotonous things. I think Stefanski does as good a job. I think the Kubiak tree, the Shanahan tree does the best job of this. They're always going to make sure that you have to defend inside out and they will run purposeful plays from the start of the game to set up other plates what the chiefs are doing is like oh these are the 30 awesome things we can do this week let's just start from the first day of the

game and be full throttle to the end well i think teams are starting to catch up on that and they're not spending practice time defending the boring stuff. Yeah. I'm not going to counter any of that stuff. I know we've talked to you about Tua a lot and it's felt like statistically he's been better the last couple weeks with the caveat of like you know it always feels like

somebody's got a couple bad throws a game um he seems to have a couple disastrous ones and then the rumor that miami was going to move on from him is he somebody you would be moving on from at this point i wouldn't i don't know if i'm the best guy to ask this i'm probably more bullish on two than anybody yeah um so i would totally understand if you're a skeptic you're like well he's obviously going to say good things i'll say this objectively as i can he is uniquely gifted anticipation accuracy timing he's a better athlete than people give him credit for and he looks like he's 100, extended some big plays yesterday. He is, I think he's incredibly talented.

I think his intangible stuff is even better than his physical stuff. That's why I've always been so bullish on him. Think about the smoke that's surrounding him right now. And yet, I mean, think about what his Wednesday and Thursday press conferences are like, and then his Sunday post-game and what he's having to hear in the locker room. And he probably can't open his phone without hearing something about him being traded. He's going through all this and yet he had arguably his best day yesterday. I did not see the second interception.

I was at a volleyball game getting back to my iPad, missed it. So I haven't seen the second interception. But I saw a lot of it, and it was high, high, high-level quarterback. He hasn't played a lot, right? I think the more he plays, the better it's going to get. I really like Charlie Fry. The guy calling the plays for him. I think he's done a great job. They're more explosive

offensively. They're doing a better job. He wins that game yesterday in kind of heroic fashion, but the defense can't stop a Pitt's fade for Matt Ryan to put him in a field goal range. It's a different narrative if they win that game. So there's a lot of things going against them. And I still see his grit and determination and talent, both physically and intangibly coming out. I think he's definitely somebody you can build around. I did a Houston radio show this morning with Sean Salisbury.

And I said, you know, I would be, they should throw a parade if they get Tua in this trade and they get a lot for Deshaun because he's a guy for his franchise is downtrodden as that. He's a guy that you can build around and he'll be great for the culture and you'll be able to bring players in and they'll gravitate towards Tua.

They're not gonna be any good for a while, if you're rebuilding this is a guy you can build around that was a it was an interesting game for golf you know coming in with everything that's gone on and the numbers that tell you you know he can't win without mcve. And we all know why McVay went to Stafford. But I almost feel like with Goff now, there's almost some sympathy for this, especially for a Detroit team that seems to fight and seems to want to play for Dan Campbell and all this kind of stuff

and how emotional he's been after a couple of these tough losses. Is there enough there with Goff where you think, okay, Detroit actually does have a guy. It's about the rest of the roster. Yeah, and I think this is a tough one. I like Jared. I like him a lot. I think he's very limited in some things that keep getting him in trouble. So yes, I think you have to build really well around

him. Now, full transparency, I think you have to build really well around him. Now, full transparency, I did not see the second half of that game. I watched every step of the first half and did not see the second half. And that's where the two interceptions came, correct? So I did not see him. The last one was debatable. I mean, it was tipped and it may have even been on the ground, but they

weren't going to change the call. Yeah. I think Jared has to play a very specific type of football, and they played it that way in St. Louis, in L.A. with him, where he's a run, run action, or spread them out pass guy. You don't have a ton of versatility with what you can do offensively, and a lot of these guys, McVay being the top of this list, want to be uber creative with what they're doing with their quarterback.

And changing the launch point is a huge deal in the NFL. I mean, it's a huge deal. You cannot any longer sit back and throw the bulk of your passes from one spot. It's hard to do that with Jared. So I think that is something that frustrates coaches because they want more. I would pose this question. Who's better? What's your backup plan?

Because Jared Goff is still better than anybody coming out this year except maybe one guy. He's seasoned. He's been to a super bowl. Like he's been through tough situations. He handles the media. Well, he's a pro. He handles the locker room. Well, like he does a lot of the stuff that's part of this job and all of a sudden, all of a sudden jump off and say, well, we, we need to get rid of them. Great. There's probably an argument for that, but who? And I always ask this question and people get stumped because it's like, oh, that's right. I don't know

who else is better. I think that's where Detroit's in. I think they've got to fix their team before they can properly evaluate whether they move on from Jared Goff or not. The Bears game was ugly, partly because Tampa is rolling right now and Tom didn't even have all of his guys.

Gronk was out. Antonio Brown was out. Real quick, because I thought about this yesterday. Think about what you just said. I didn't have all those guys. Talk about two of the best skill position players in the NFL. Yeah. That's what we're talking about. Some guys, yeah, they're missing.

I'll just use Kyle Rudolph. Really good player. Good tight end for years. But it's not Gronk. You're losing Gronk. Okay, they're missing so-and-so receiver number two. No, this is Antonio Brown. When his head's right,

he's already one of the top five skilled position players in the NFL. And it's just amazing how they can just lose those two guys and look like an absolute machine offensively. It's scary how good they can be. Yeah, 38 points against the Bears. And on the other side, we're left with a Monday of wanting to talk about Justin Fields. If you're on the Chicago side of this, he, what, 22 of 32, 184, zero touchdowns, three picks.

What was the worst? Two fumbles, too. Yeah. Two fumbles. I think he had five turnovers. You know, five turnovers. I thought the worst was the one. The one fumble was really bad that he was kind of

trying to climb up and he was careless with the ball the interception where he's trying to like fall right roll right sees a guy late air mills it goes to the corner it looked like the game was fast on him and I

lived it so I know I put myself in his shoes and you just don't see the pictures clearly. You're guessing. Um, what's that like? It's awful. I still, I still wake up in cold sweats. Uh, no, I've dedicated my life after football to letting kids not ever go through it. I mean, literally that's why I've done everything I've done after football is so nobody would

have to live through what I went through. You've never heard me tell a quarterback, do it like I did it. I usually tell them, hey, here's a lesson I learned doing it the hard way. Learn from my mistake. Don't make the mistake yourself. It's awful. Because you remember, you're an alpha. You've been the best at what you've done your whole life. You're the best. You've been the best at what you've done your whole life. You're a supreme athlete. You've never had to go through this because life's kind of been easy, right?

All of us. We've had hard things. But for the most part, football hasn't been hard until this point. And all of a sudden, it's more than hard. It's like everything you've ever believed is now upside down. And it's really a lonely spot and you need help. And that's why I'm really hard on coaches in these moments. Your coach needs to help you. I always say this, if you're doing everything Monday through Saturday

the right way as a young quarterback, it's on your coach to not ever allow that to happen to you on Sundays. Now, if you're a punk, and Ryan Leaf was on my pod, and he admitted he was a punk, so he would shake his head yes if he hears me say this. If you're Ryan Leaf and you're not doing the things Monday through Saturday, and now you're sucking on Sunday, that's on. That's 100% on you.

But if you're a pro, you're studying film, you're getting extra reps, you're asking questions about protections, you're studying film, you're getting extra reps, you're asking questions about protections, you're constantly engaged with your teammates, how can we be more successful this week? You're doing everything you can. And you're sucking on Sunday? I think a lot of that goes on your coach putting you in a bad position. You haven't worked on the things in during the week from a football standpoint that will help you be successful. You haven't given them answers to the test before the test. I think most young quarterbacks are successful.

If you ask them what's the biggest reason, they're going to point directly to the person calling the plays and coaching during the week and say, well, I have a lot of these answers before the game starts. And I'm just kind of doing what coach told me to do. Mac in New England, again, I think he's playing at an incredibly high level. And I think Josh McDaniels is one of the greatest offensive coaches

of our generation. And he has all the answers to the test before the test starts. And that's why he's playing decisively. I don't see that in Chicago and Justin Fields. Wow, so you're that high in McDaniels. I don't know that I've heard you say that definitively. You think he's one of the best guys going on offense?

Why? I think he's in the Shanahan, McVay, all these rock star guys because he gives you the answers. He can play offense a bunch of different ways. Look what he did when he had Tebow. I'm obviously around Tom for that long.

You're going to get a lot of tricks of the trade. He's been mentored by the greatest coach of all time in Bill. I think he can just play a lot of different ways. I don't think he's forced into a system. I've always said this. They don't have a system. They put together a game plan

that puts their players in a position to succeed and exposes your weaknesses. I've seen him play with four tight ends, simply three tight ends and two backs. I've seen him play with five wide receivers. I've seen him run RPOs before RPOs were a thing. I've seen him as good a trick play guy as there is. And they're purposeful.

They're not just to be fun. They're purposeful. Um, they're really good in the run game. They're great. They're not just to be fun. They're purposeful. They're really good in the run game. They're great in their protection schemes. That's the Skarnakia influence. Their short yardage run game, goal line run game for the last 20 years has been the best in the league. Nobody runs the ball better in the tight red than them. He just gets the whole picture. You have so many offense coordinators growing up these days

that they're really good at what they know, but they don't know enough. And they're system guys. They believe it's system, system, system. I think Josh and his offensive coaches believe in football IQ, teach enough football, be a great teacher, and put your players in a position to succeed, whatever the best way to do that is this week.

Everybody's watching them playing 21 personnel this year. Tied in, two backs, two wide receivers. Oh, Matt, they're doing this to protect Mac Jones. Don't be surprised if next year they're in spread. You know what I mean? And they're running as flashy as stuff as New England's doing or in two years. They're going to do whatever their personnel dictates. If they end up changing,

investing more in offensive players because they believe they have the quarterback, don't be surprised if you see a uber explosive offense in the next couple of years from New England if you see them starting to devote their resources there. And New England's pretty easy to figure out on how they're going to play each year based on how they're devote their resources there. And New England's pretty easy to figure out on how they're going to play each year

based on how they're investing their resources in the offseason. When they're going heavy on defense and drafting defense, you're going to see a conservative offense with an aggressive defense. If you see them go into free agency or you see them start drafting on the offensive side of the ball, they're going to do the opposite.

They're going to grow that offense and they're going to become more explosive., they're going to do the opposite. They're going to grow that offense, and they're going to become more explosive. They're playing to win the game. That's the difference of the Patriots and the Nervales. A lot of these guys are playing to be really good on one side of the ball, the other. The Patriots, every single week, are putting the best plan together

to try to win the game. Final thought here. You've got a name for us regarding the draft because we're already starting to hear like, okay, depending on who needs quarterbacks, it's usually like five or six teams every offseason. This may not be the draft for them, but you have a name that has not been brought up

because I have not heard. I know who he is. I just haven't heard his name brought up a lot. Yeah, keep on looking for Brennan Armstrong from Virginia. He is a much better athlete than people give him credit for. So when he goes to the pre-draft process, he will test very well. He's got thick joints, which a lot of these guys are looking for. Every time I say that, people roll their eyes, but it's a big deal.

You're looking for guys that are thick-jointed because it usually equates to long-term health. And you can put more weight, more horsepower on a kid with thick joints. Throw catalog out the yin-yang. So when I say throw catalog, you watch college kids, and one of the biggest arguments usually is, well, they just haven't made a lot of different types of throws. Can they learn them? Absolutely.

But how long is it going to take to learn them? This kid's made every throw you can imagine, every element of the passing game. They have as much volume as any team, probably next to the Lipscomb Academy Mustangs. Like they believe in volume. They have a ton of volume. So he's had to learn a lot. He handles a lot with the line of scrimmage.

And Bronco does a really good job of creating a professional environment at his school. So they run that thing like an NFL franchise. So he'll walk in the door and be very comfortable. I wasn't sure on his overall horsepower. That was my, and again, I hadn't done a comprehensive study, but my little notes were like, yeah, okay, tempo's the ball more than he rips it.

Not sure on overall horsepower. The more you start watching him, you realize that he plays with whatever horsepower is needed. And a la Mahomes. Now, I'm not saying he's as talented as Mahomes. Please don't confuse that. But Mahomes, Rodgers, I'd put in this, they only play with the appropriate amount of horsepower needed.

Meaning Mahomes only throws the ball as hard as he needs to throw it, right? Aaron does the same thing. You see a lot of these guys, Herbert still is learning this. He just rips fire every chance he gets. Holmes only throws the ball as hard as he needs to throw it, right? Aaron does the same thing. You see a lot of these guys. Herbert still is learning this. He just rips fire every chance he gets. Like he's maximum output on every play. Armstrong is a guy that he has the level of horsepower needed for whatever play.

You need a hard action, half roll in the pocket, throw it back 60 yards across the field. I didn't know if he had that. He has it. You need a guy to have his legs tangled up and still get the ball to the boundary. He can do it. But he's going to play the bulk of his game the way he wants to play it. That tells me he understands the craft of playing. So when I see a guy do that, I'm like,

oh, wow, he's advanced because he actually knows what's needed for this play. All right. That's good. His numbers. And they're a good team, too, this year. They're kind of under the radar. They're the one nobody wants to play in the ACC because they know they can gash you. That's Trent Dilfer.

You can check him out on his Beyond the X's and O's podcast, Apple Podcasts, Trent. And always appreciate the time. Thanks, man. Thanks, brother. See you. You want details? Fine. I drive a Ferrari 355 Cabriolet.

What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you could possibly imagine. And best of all, kids, I am liquid. So, now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required. Hey, are we gonna, before we get to life advice, guys,

are we gonna get on the succession train here, or what? I'm already on it. Okay. Alright. So, what about you, Kyle? I fell asleep watching it last night because uh you know stopped working at midnight so um and i bill bill and sal already did their like overview of the episode so i'm all fucked up on succession but i like it so we can talk about it whenever it's just it's been a strange relationship all All right, yeah, because we didn't do it last week

and we said we were going to do it, so I would like to do it. I'd like to do it on Wednesdays because Kyle's so busy. And then this Wednesday, I want to go abroad because we had the Grand Prix here stateside. People were very excited about it. I didn't realize that McLaren's now considered the most popular team.

Did you guys know that? In the world of the states states I was reading some poll sorry about that yeah I know I I have a hard time believing McLaren's more popular than Ferrari in Europe do you think that's why they didn't get back to you because now all of a sudden they're super popular um I I went back and looked at it what was supposed to happen if i was going to go to the the austin grand prix i just like saying grand prix um i think they somebody had wanted me to do a podcast and it's not really up to me you know i can't just say yeah hey i'm going to come and do a podcast i mean in, maybe, but there probably would have been some request for a show fee or something like that.

I don't get paid that. The company gets paid it. it didn't work out. That's all right, though. Maybe Belgium. You never know. You're right, though. McLaren, what am I looking at? I don't know, but it's 30% of fans naming it their favorite team in the world. Number two was Red Bull at 20%.

Number three was Ferrari at 18%. That's a sizable gap. So that's a world pull. Yeah, that's what it says. This is globally. Gosh, that doesn't even seem. F1 Global Survey by Motorsport Network. Okay.

Sure. Came out two days ago. Who's to doubt them? No, because that's what I saw. Somebody sent it to me. It was like, check out McLaren. And I went, alright. I guess this is. Okay, let's

pivot into life advice. As I said, I'll probably do some more college football later this week. We're still hoping to land a huge guest for that. And I'm not 100% sure how that's going to work out, but it just wasn't a very good weekend. So anyway, going to a Harry Ween concert.

It's lifeadvicerr at gmail.com. Our man checking in 65205, strong lower body. He says he's terrible at benching. This isn't a very serious issue. It seems serious to me. I'm going to a Harry Styles concert, Harryween, on Halloween with my girlfriend. Long story short, I have to go due to the way we get the tickets, and I don't know what to wear.

Apparently, people wear very eccentric clothes to this concert, in halloween um and i'm in a predicament i can't wear my halloween costume that i'm wearing the 30th because it's ted lasso and that would cause some issues so you can't wear a ted lasso outfit to a harry styles concert is am i reading that right do you guys i guess so yeah i i don't know why, but sure. I feel like he's saying that because maybe he doesn't want to give away his Halloween costume to whoever else is going to be in his party at the concert. I think there might just be something he's not saying, right? Because it's not all adding up. Yeah, because when I read it the first time, I thought, wait, does he mean that Ted Lasso

would be offensive to other attendees at a Harry Styles concert? And I'm like, no, that can't be what it is. Wait, are British people offended by Ted Lasso? Yeah. Honestly, the first time it dawned on me. I don't know. I was trying to figure out the way that it could come across that way. So I don't know.

So then he's like, do I wear normal clothes at risk of sticking out like a sore thumb? I'm not sure if that'll be an issue uh because i will stick out like a sore thumb regardless or do i wear a basic halloween costume like being a hippie or a nerd or something i always think that if you can't decide hippie or nerd are great options um i just haven't thought about dressing up in such a long time i'm really not not even a fan of Harry Styles or Halloween, for that matter. Sounds like you're going to have a hell of a night, man. But I'm trying to be a good boyfriend and need your advice. I don't even like music or emails. On top of everything else, he says.

Let's just do a quick Harry Styles minute. Where are we at with him? Yes. I mean, I love Harry Styles. Love him. Absolutely love him. Watermelon Sugar, great song. His album, his last album is actually Sneaky Great.

I mean, call me whatever names you want, but I am pro Harry Styles. Plus, he was in Dunkirk. So, I mean, this guy, he's a Christopher Nolan guy. He's basically perfect in my book. Oh, my God. All I can think of is Smallman now listening to you say this right now and laughing hysterically that you were so excited there's nothing more predictable than you coming strong yeah with the harry styles i also the halloween so if this guy's looking to give away a ticket

like i'm around i think it's in new york city right so not that far just saying dude is it new york city wow i think so yeah i think it's at MSG. Okay. Kyle, anything on Harry Styles? I just love that he... Rudy just makes me feel better about my weird thing I have for John Mayer because he's got an equally weird thing for Harry Styles. I think this is great. Also love John Mayer, so no shame

whatsoever. Saw him in concert last year. Oh, nice. The concert's still good? I saw him at MSG. He was amazing. I haven't been since 2010. Oh, no. Is he still bringing the heat? A little continuum action? Yeah, I get you. No, he's great. He covers a lot of stuff, too.

He's in the dead and company stuff. I'm not a big redhead guy, but it's cool shit. He's a versatile dude. There's no shame in dudes liking Harry Styles and John Mayer. Especially in 2021. Agreed. Yeah, I don't have an issue

with anything you guys said there. I don't know what Harry Styles' deal is other than I have nothing against him. It's just I noticed that he has this kind of dance move that everybody freaks out about. And whenever I'm on Instagram, they'll just be, it pops up.

Like, I think I watched one or two and now I'm fucked. And it's just, I had no idea idea by the way did any of us truly understand how much we will watch each other dance i don't think we i don't think we really put a the accurate dollar amount on that one i'm ashamed to admit how much i watch of like tiktok and instagram reels like i i am ashamed to admit how much how bad it is at times because you don't know what it is.

Because you can get stuck in a loop for like 30 minutes to an hour. Because if you don't have anything to do, you're just, all right, swipe up. What's the next one? It's like the perfect algorithm for boredom. It really is. No, and I'll be like, why am I watching?

And it'd be one thing like, okay, beyond the obvious, you're watching this person dance because they're attractive or whatever. But I'll just be like, that's not why you're watching this one. Like, why are you watching this one? And it's something, there's some hypnotic serotonin thing going on where i don't think we truly understood how addicted we would be to watching literally anyone dance to anything because that's all it is so yeah harris dow has

got this one move where he kind of does the shoulders back and the head back and the hands are up and he just he really sells it hard and that's like when he does that on the stage i notice people go crazy uh so here's the deal um we haven't talked about your email really at all because it's kind of funny but this isn't that complicated right just dress up is something you know you already don't want to go you already don't like halloween but you're going and like, I guess you're saying you're going to stick out like a sore thumb because, because of what? Cause it's going to be all women.

I don't know. If your girlfriend wants to go see Harry Styles and wants you to put on an outfit, go for it. I always liked the dog, the bounty hunter stuff. Cause you can wear a vest, but nice again,

I don't know. I don't know if I trust dog bounty hunter anymore. That's what this should be, though. The advice is what are the good things you can do that you wouldn't feel like an idiot or an asshole. That's really what it is. That's what it is. We should just spend 45 seconds on just what.

You said Dog the Bounty Hunter. That's yours? Well, that's too much. That's too much. That's a house party thing. I don't think you're going to see Harry Styles dressed as Dog the Bounty Hunter. I'm sorry. I think the Dog the Bounty Hunter

thing's been kind of played out anyway. You know, people have done that for years. But yeah, I don't. I'm trying to think. Alright, give me something. It's basic, but I mean going with the British theme, just be somebody from Peaky Blinders. Throw on like one of those you know, wool Kangol hats, like a

tweed vest and you're good to go and look kind of dangerous. You're going to sweat your ass off. All right, I'll take the vest off then. You're only going to wear it for like five minutes. Take a couple pictures and you're good. No, I kind of like where your head's at though, but I think there's isn't there some

I mean, there's nothing more like, man, you really didn't put any time I mean, there's nothing more like, man, you really didn't put any time into this. Um, when it's, when it's, uh, baseball player,

you know what I mean? Like baseball pants and a baseball shirt. And you're like, what are you like a baseball player? And you're like, so you, you're also somebody who doesn't put a lot of effort into things too. Huh?

So would you just as a guy with minimal effort into things, too. Is that what you just asked? A guy with minimal effort? I like Jersey guy. Especially if you're like, why not go as David Beckham? Do your hair up, throw on a soccer jersey. Again, British theme. I feel like I'm full of ideas right now. All very simple.

And then you wouldn't get too hot either. No, that one could probably play a little bit better, but we don't know what this guy's hair is like. So maybe he just does a blonde wig. He's still got a bunch of days here, though. So he can make this happen. I did Indiana Jones two years ago. I'm not going to lie to you guys.

I was feeling sexy. Like just a real, the word sexy was exactly how I was feeling. Did you have the whip included? You know, actually, I went to, I did not care that I was feeling. Did you have the whip included? You know, actually, I did not care that I was going to do. I was like, all right, anything Halloween that I'm doing this year, I'm going as Indiana Jones. I don't care if I've done it once.

I'm not figuring out three cons. So I got really drunk at this party that Tate brought me to, and I just left a whip in the yard because I just didn't want to hold it anymore. So I did have a whip. But actually, I think it worked better without it. Had a nice leather jacket and the brown leather jacket really just pulled it all together. So you're saying sexy Indiana Jones. Yeah, feel

sexy. Feel good about you, man. Don't feel like you got to paint your face and be uncomfortable. If you want to feel sexy at this concert, think about what that means to you, dude. Fair. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. Lumberjack, you just

wear a hard hat. Probably can't get into the show with an axe. I'll say anybody from the YMCA band or from, what is it, the Village people? Yeah, you could do that. It's a popular one, especially in groups and college. No. I wouldn't do it, but it's's been done i just know it's a popular one

okay i don't think we did a very good job there i think you guys did i didn't so uh you don't strike me as a guy that's dressed up for halloween in although you could be sneaky i don't know maybe you like halloween parties i know i'm not anti i just haven't know, I haven't done it in forever. And then I didn't want to for the show. Cannell loved dressing up for the show. Yeah, that was too... You were kind of too cool for school. You and Danny were on different pages

when it came to that stuff. Danny was down for every gimmick and you didn't want to do any gimmicks. And that's okay. You're different people. What about Woody? Toy Story, that's a popular one. There you go. Everybody was the Joker two years ago ago that one's lame as hell every nba i feel like half of the nba two years ago was the joker like we get it carl at the

eight towns it's true episode of the office it's like where do they get a load of me damn it Creed there's three guys that did the Joker Kevin Creed and and Dwight which was good because it was making fun of what you were saying that everybody was doing Joker I can't be super topical and be somebody from Dune be Paul from Dune that would be tough that would be tough

you just kind of look you just look dirt because he's got like some nice clothes and then he's also got like some i don't know i just you shred up some black stuff and just those costumes suck if you have to explain it like what are you oh i'm the i'm one of the other guys from dune like so what it's like you just have a black jump i'm a hard on you dude come on yeah no that's great. Dude, it's great, by the way. Love you. You should go as a scientist. Just wear a lab coat. It's not a bad one.

It's easy. Then it sucks. It also isn't that great. Three-hole gym punch. Three-hole punch gym. I meant... Sorry, whatever. All right, moving on.

Can I bail on any of these commitments to stop failing my classes? Uh-oh. 6'2", 210. Senior in in college playing on school club rugby team and acting in a student-run play. Each of these consumes 15 to 20 hours per week. I'm busy every weeknight training or rehearsing. I play games on Saturday, so I'm mentally distracted all day. I have rehearsal Sundays from 1 to 5. all day and I have rehearsal Sundays from one to five. These are great experiences, but I'm at risk of failing all four of my classes right now. I have two hard engineering classes, one intro history class and one business class. I can't fail any classes if I want to graduate on time in May. I'm also trying to secure a job on top of this. Are you hiring? We're not. So we just eliminated that distraction for you. I'm considering bailing on one of these

commitments and I'm hoping for some advice.'ve played rugby all through college playoffs start this weekend there's a backup who's not bad my best friends are on the team it would suck to abandon them but i've lost my love for the game we're going to win our playoffs so probably one month left oh so they're going to win the whole thing the acting club is totally new for me and i'm not really friends with anyone else the club the problem is they would have no one else to play my role which is supporting character at about one-third of the scenes the show is in three weeks i could probably rip some adderall stop having free time and make everything work together but that sounds terrible should i drop any of these commitments or start skipping practices or something should i tank my gpa well should i just suck it up and manage my

time better i've been trying to do it all for two months and it's not working. I mean, look, I think there's always a way you could figure it out. I'd imagine you're probably not being entirely truthful that there's probably some other stuff that you're doing. The engineering classes, that's a really good excuse because anybody that's ever been in the engineering school, I have a couple of friends that were former engineering students because they were like, all right, this is a disaster. I'm out of here. The best advice I could give you if you actually are failing four classes, I would go to the professors and start the process now. Because, I mean, you only have like another month and a half here, if that, to figure out how to get these grades up.

if that to figure out how to get these grades up so i would go to all of them and tell them hey look i try to do a bunch of extra stuff this year it's not because i'm screwing around although you know again you might be or not you're probably not going to admit it um i overextended myself this class has been tough i need to get caught up what can i do like make make the effort because i've always thought professors are usually pretty good with this stuff not all but most are make the effort to like make that connection with them now so that um now they're going to change your grade for you something like that but so when you can go to them at the end of the end of the semester being like hey this is where i need to be like what can i do here you know whether it's going to be extra work or something like that

because you don't want to fail the classes and then tank your GPA and then graduate. Nobody's going to be enjoying that deal. I'm sure parents aren't going to be psyched about that either. It sounds like you could quit rugby. Really? Bailing on anything when they're expecting

you, but is it that big of a deal if you don't like playing anymore when they're expecting you but i mean is it that big of a deal if you don't like playing anymore and you're still going to be friends with these guys in the rugby team and you said they're going to win the playoff without you um do you worry about not getting a ring that's what it sounds like no guys get a ring yeah you probably would still get a ring um you know i like that you're trying to do these other things, honestly. Good for you. But I would also add that that one seems like an easier, based on the way you described it, it'd be easier to quit that one than the play.

The show's in three weeks, and you've been rehearsing with these guys, and you're in a third of the scene, so you have a major role in this. And there's no backup. Is there really no backup there's no backup they would hate you that's pretty funny that's addictive i would not advocate doing that no but you're gonna figure out a way to not fail these classes man so you know to just say hey

do a better job with your time which you could but you but you haven't. But I would talk to the four professors now. I would talk to them this week and plant the seed in their head that, hey, I'm struggling. I got to turn this around. I'm quitting some extra stuff here and I'm going to lock in. And they're going to be like, all right, maybe, maybe not. But you never know. There's a human element to that when you make that connection with the professor and you're struggling, which is way better than when you go to them at the end of the semester and you're like, hey, I got a 59. Like, all right, well, you never said anything to me the entire time you were in the class. So that's the best advice I could give you because I don't know what your time deal is.

I don't think it's impossible for you to take classes, not fail them and have two extracurricular things here like you're in Rushmore. But, you know, the kid in Rushmore had a hard time with his grades too. He was in a lot of clubs though. A lot of clubs. Beekeepers, young aviators, all sorts of stuff. Kyle? I got an idea.

Quit everything. How about that? Quit it all. Quit it all and then go to the library. Eat your fucking sandwiches in the library. it all and then go to the library eat your fucking sandwiches in the library just like spend the time in the library quitting because of grades is a an actual amazing excuse i actually quit rugby uh using a combination of grades and uh ow that really fucking hurt and um and then also i quit when my freshman and both semesters, my freshman year and one of my sophomore semesters, I basically like faked, um, rush.

I didn't fake rush. Like it was just, uh, this, these ones, these fraternities recording me. And I just kept saying for three semesters in a row, it's like, you know, I want to, my grades are just crazy right now. And I don't think, I just don't think I could, I could, and everyone's like, all right, dude, we get it. So I think that's, I think everybody would understand. I think he says that there's no love lofts with the game of rugby. And he really doesn't know or care about anybody

in the play other than that it would just be, it would just suck. But like, it would suck worse to fail your classes. And it'd be great to just spend, have all the time possible that you deem necessary to devote to, um, turning your classes around. Cause I've been there and it's crazy and it's actually wild what being able to focus in the library can do for you. So I don't know why you're failing. I don't know if you suck at writing essays or if you can't retain any information or you're missing classes or you suck

at taking tests. But if it's something that you can fix in the library i would just i would just literally spend all the time that you can possibly put in the library and fuck everything else because it sucks if you're gonna have to come back when no one's there or just for another semester you're gonna feel like shit and whoever's paying for college whether it's you your parents or a combination of you your parents in the state it's gonna feel like shit so wow kyle just brought the hammer down get in the library quit everything yeah but i feel like kyle's not afraid like you're letting so many people down especially in the play in that situation you know like you're gonna be a dick are you okay with being a dick yeah are you gonna

let yourself down are you letting yourself down and like oh yeah i'm just saying i failed all my classes because i had a fucking play and i just couldn't couldn't figure out the rest of it. It's like you don't care about these people. You're probably it sounds like you're not even going to hang out with them after the play either. So ever. What in the fuck, dude? Go fix your fix your life, man. I think it's fair Gave that guy a lot to chew on But then you don't have to worry about I let my rugby guys down But at least I have this You're just like, listen, everybody got the axe across the board Because I'm working on me

This is me time That is a good theme in 2021 though If you say, hey, I gotta count on me I gotta do me Then I feel like people are gonna let you get away with that more now Than they ever have before. It's a fair point. It's a fair point.

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