The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Week 12 Recap With Chris Long | The Ryen Russillo Podcast

Episode Date: November 25, 2019

Russillo is joined by two-time Super Bowl champion Chris Long to discuss NFL Week 12. They talk Patriots-Cowboys, CFP rankings for NFL teams, best/worst plane rides, Eagles struggles, Dwayne Haskins��s selfie, and a Myles Garrett update, before they guess celebrity net worths. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

what is good i'm fired up about this podcast today chris long every monday the ryan rossillo podcast part of the ringer network we will cover dallas and new england san francisco's domination of green bay the nfl is college football playoff teams. That argument, maybe one through four, one through six. Plane rides, what offends you? Celebrity net worth over-unders with very little research. Although the research I did was distracting me, Chris, from everything else. And yeah, I think we're going to have this thing covered today.

How are you? I'm good. Net worth is the important thing, though. So don't let football get in the way of that no no i know i didn't know if you wanted to read more on it because i didn't i didn't want to have guys start thinking like wait a minute he had a production deal and then this is how much his tv show did and all these different things so i was a little worried about how deep the net worth stuff would go so um let's not do that.

All right. Are we good? No, that's fine. I mean, listen, the more just raw Google numbers, the better. It's more entertaining. Perfect. Perfect. Okay. Today's show, or the Ryan Russillo show, is brought to you by State Farm. If you're fumbling with insurance, State Farm agents are here to help because with over 19,000 agents, they're local to you and available to help whether you connect in person by phone or through the State Farm mobile app. Agents are here to help, so go with the one that has coverage and agents you can count on. State Farm, talk to an agent today. Also, I want to remind you, our good friends at DraftKings have been around with any of my content now for what feels like forever. Very thankful to them.

In my house, we have some Thanksgiving traditions that we do every year. Clearly, this is a mass read because I will not be hosting Thanksgiving at my house this year. Every Thanksgiving with my family, what do I do? We try to figure out where everybody's going to be, and then we FaceTime with each other. It's an unbelievable tradition. And, of course, we watch football. Last year, I went to play pickup hoops. It's weird out here in LA. I don't think you respect the holidays, the winter holidays, the way the Northeast does. So you show up and all of a sudden there's a line outside of Sharks Cove. There was a Starbucks. It's a mad

house. And I thought, hey, this can't happen on Christmas either. It does. You had to wait in line to get run. But of course, we watch football, and with DraftKings, the leader in one-day fantasy football, new users have 100,000 reasons to be thankful this Thanksgiving with a free shot at over $100,000 in prizes. Draft your lineup and feel the sweat like never

before. Every run, throw, and catch mean more with the DraftKings lineup on the line. It's simple. Just draft your lineup, stay under the salary cap, and see how your team stacks up against the competition. Who do we like this weekend? We like Lamar tonight. I know that's going to maybe factor into playing rides a little bit. Do you have somebody this weekend you want to give me a matchup you like, Chris?

Me? Well, it was a positive for me this weekend actually setting my lineup, but I did leave Jameis on the bench who torched the falcons uh so i'm just gonna say like maybe i sold jamis too early and i'll put him back in the lineup done i don't even know who they play who do they play all right we're gonna get it on this hold on this could be i mean i have tannahillannehill now, so I think that qualifies as a two-headed monster. Manahill? Dude, he's making me like the Titans.

He is making me like the Titans, and it's weird. I couldn't believe it when I thought, okay, Pat's Dallas. I feel like more people. You didn't see a lot of Jags-Titans tweets during that two-game window, the second window there on an NFL Sunday. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to put the Rockets and Mavs on. I want to watch the Lucas show on the second window there on an NFL Sunday. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to put the Rockets and Mavs on. I want to watch the Luka show on the second screen. And then, uh, I almost didn't, I text you. I said, everybody keeps saying like, you should be watching Luka instead of this

bad game. And I kind of figured you might've been cheating on football. I just feel like the Titans and Jags play 30 times a year. I know that number sounds high. They play every week, dude. They play every week. And it looks the same, bro. At one point last night, I was so focused on the Pats game. I look over to Derrick Henry breaking off like an 80-yard run, and I'm like, oh, it's just the replay from the last game.

Yeah, right, right. It's actually live. That's happening again so then i look and they're like up 30 to 3 and i go whoa wow go get yours tannahill by the way it's a good time yeah it's a good time to to do a stinker is is during pat's pat's. I mean, that was the time for Nick and the Jags to really just, yeah, it was bad. That is what is comical about some of the Carson Wentz stuff that we're going to get to because people are waiting for your content on Carson Wentz after a tough Sunday against Seattle. But somehow Nick Foles is like, never should have gotten rid of Nick.

And then you're like, no one paid attention. No one knew what was going on with the Titans-Jags game. Nope. And Nick, hey, listen, it's not Nick's fault they gave up almost 80 points his first two starts. And it's not like Minshew was lighting the world on fire towards the change that came in Jacksonville. So, yeah, I mean, the Foles thing is relevant because it's always the first argument against Carson. Massive.

Hey man, can we get, can we have some, a little less siren in, in your low rent district? Are the listeners hearing this siren? They're going to hear that. Why are there so many emergencies?

Where the fuck do you live? I live on the main artery in and out of town so the problem is the police and the fire department are blocks away but there's one way in and one way out when you're trying to get to the place on time and they go right past the balcony here so well shout out to firemen they do a lot of good work. Yeah. Shout out to all the law enforcement. I don't know. What are you trying to do? And first responders.

Yeah, just first responders in general. I'm not the one who lives in a godless city that goes to the bar on Christmas and Thanksgiving. Yeah, I don't know what happened. This is almost like that town. What was that Tarantino script that didn't do as well? It was like his first script. It was with Clooney. And they showed up to that weird bar. And it was like everybody just turned into a vampire that was when i was

like vampire the vampire movie that was what i was thinking actually dust till dawn didn't do well hasn't aged well i just think it was one of those deals where it's like this tarantino guy's on fire and you're like oh this is one of his first scripts okay you know as a writer everybody has a bad game that's that's what i'm saying okay so i'm sure draft kings is thrilled about this mid-read uh jamis by the way has your jacks we're still in the read yeah nothing adds to the sweat of watching the game quite like having a completely free shot at over 100 000 prizes download the draft kings app now new users enter the code russillo r-u-s-s enter the code RUESSILLO at signup to get a completely free shot at over $100,000 in prizes. Again, that's code RUESSILLO to get a totally free shot at $100,000 in prizes only at DraftKings. Eligibility restrictions apply. See DraftKings.com for details. dot com for details. I also want to use this opportunity to plug Chris Long's Chalk Media.

The Chalk Media YouTube channel is up there. I watched the Aaron Donald video this weekend. Yeah, where you went to a goat farm to say this is where he was born. Fishbowl interviews are up. You went George R.R. Martin. How did that booking go? Bro, the George R.R. Martin thing so nerve-wracking because it was one of those things we just threw out a shot in the dark and most of the stuff we've done has been in person but we were like yeah we'll skype for him like he's like yeah let's skype so i get there i'm getting a skype set up and anybody that has done this now which i've done for only a month can tell you it's nothing more terrifying than technical difficulties like before a big interview george could see us but couldn't hear

us for five minutes and i was so petrified that it was us luckily it turned out to be the it team on his on his end uh but once the interview started man it was awesome the only the only pretense there was no game of thrones talk which was cool with me because honestly that's all anybody probably wants to talk to him about he's got a lot more going on so it was you couldn't ask one thing uh i mean like i tried to respect the request i mean this was in the heat of the finale and i don't think he wanted to if i'm reading between the lines step on the finale or shit on the finale because i he did say he's not a big fan of explosions i think think there was a subliminal diss during the interview, and that was right after, I guess it was episode four of that last season

where Danny lost her shit. Yeah. By the way, Jameis plays. I appreciate that plug. Jameis plays the Jags this week, so more good news. And another thought I had with your reads, do you have a lot of people that probably miss out on on the promo code because they're not sure if there's one or two l's in

your name i usually always say two s is two l's i'll go ahead and uh spell it out too so um you know you could get you could get a simpler name i could like me when anybody puts your name was built for promo codes no doubt built for it anybody out there that wants to do a promo code pay your boy uh i got a monosyllabic name irish by the way it's also the green light podcast of chris long green light will feature celebrity interviews commentary from chris long special guests one of a kind segments and more nothing is off limits at shock one of a kind do you hear that shit we even do something called a mailbag nobody else has done a mailbag anyone ever done a mailbag hot and controversial news items and trending discussions

from professional collegiate sports my gosh uh you got miles teller coming up right miles teller on fishbowl actually he just he just dropped uh i think it was yesterday but we didn't make a big deal about it because uh all the games and all that but that was a cool interview and one that you uh threw me the oop on yeah he's a good dude i like him i'll tell you this of anyone that's famous that i've interacted with though he is the number one guy that gives me the most shit like that's his shtick with me like hey i'm gonna mess with rossillo the most and i'll have moments where i'm like all right you like i get i get where we are in the hierarchy of things but you can stop you're stuck yeah i mean like listen he wouldn't gonna do it to you because you're at the

end of the day you are you are a movie star so um right i think he has a nice dry sense of humor. And you're, I think you're bone dry, but he's like desert dry. And to be in a situation where you're out dried, I think it's a little bit off-putting for you or a little bit like, you know, disorientating. It isn't the dryness. Although, how do we know the dry makeup of bone versus desert? Do you have that? Is that a field guide? makeup of bone versus desert. Do you have that? I think desert. I think that's one of those glass half full glass half empty. Jameis Winston isms. Okay, let's do this.

Let's get to the football. Dallas at New England. Messy the whole way through. We've got a fourth down. We've got a couple bad calls. We've got a Jerry Jones presser after the fact. It felt like it was the most leading damning thing of Jason Garrett's future there in Dallas. But Tom and the Patriots on an ugly day find a way to win a tough game at home.

And it leaves me going, we know what New England's offense is, but that defense was incredible. Stephon Gilmore had an unbelievable game, completely shutting out Amari Cooper. And I almost feel like kind of what was supposed to happen is what happened but i don't know that i look at the result and feel dramatically different about one team or the other i agree with you and as i was sitting there struggling in a really sloppy borderline unwatchable game that could have been so much better without the weather uh i was i was scrambling for a theme and it hit me at halftime. The theme is exactly what I thought it was going to be. It was coaching, the weather, and it was two bad

performances. I didn't expect the performances to be as sloppy, but we can get to that in a second. Everybody knows the Jason Garrett stuff. We talk about the special teams, the fourth and seven, Jerry upset. But New England, man, they continue to just find ways to win Brady managing the game 17 of 37 is not eye-popping by any standard he didn't throw a pick you know there were a couple times he got hit I thought he was dead

when he got tabletopped and Robert Quinn came down on him I thought that might have been it for him he had a bunch of drops Edelman's dealing with a shoulder he's having to to throw to rookie receivers. And you kind of wonder if they knew what they had in these guys because they didn't make a move at the deadline, right? I don't know if you're looking at that and saying- Well, they grabbed Sanu. Well, I mean, they didn't make a tight end move. They didn't make a move at tackle.

Wynn came back. I thought for sure they'd make a move at tackle, and they didn't go do it. And Wynn, at least in the short term, gives them a little bit of stability. Newhouse had been a liability, and this allows them to get more of their best receivers out in routes, which are their running backs, actually. So what do you do with Garrett, who, you know, it was pretty clear that Troy Aikman was pointing out some specific stuff, which is great.

You know, when we were talking about different things that were happening, special teams and then New England had been kicking short. And then that last one, they almost gave up the football where it was a live ball and they ended up taking over on the 11, which was a disaster because Aikman's like, look, you're going to move your guys up. 11, which was a disaster because Aikman's like, look, you're going to move your guys up. A lot of people had a huge problem with Garrett on the fourth and seven at the Pats 11 at that point to make it 13 to nine instead of just trying to make it a tie football game and go for a touchdown. Again, it would have been against the number one red zone defense. So I know that on a Twitter Sunday, it turns into like helmet to helmet contact that is or isn't called that everybody's upset about and that every coach sucks, which is a lot of fun um a lot of you guys really banging out the creative

content but with this one it felt glaring and even more so because Aikman's like I don't know what the point of three points here is yeah I mean listen you got the special team stuff right off the bat and and it all stems from you know everybody sees the jerry interview which i have my feelings about jerry this is kind of your problem you've you've you've allowed this for uh the better part of a decade so like the buck stops with you we hear things that garrett's kind of a figurehead a placeholder somebody that doesn't make all the decisions like you know after the game you have him saying he doesn't really look at win probability analytics and this that and the third and that's going to get you killed

on twitter especially killed but this was this was a situation where you lost to new england on the road in the rain they've won 21 straight at home including playoffs you've got a short week against buffalo coming up unless you're talking about about firing Jason Garrett, why light a fire under his ass and imagine that he's going to be any different for creating this distraction on a short week? I mean, the fourth and seventh thing I agree with. You've got to go there. You haven't been in the red zone basically all game. You're going to have to go get down there again if you kick the field goal and score a touchdown.

So I agree with that. He's not the most cutting-edge guy, Garrett. I think the biggest takeaway for me was Cooper's home road splits, and this is a guy that completely transformed the offense, have been glaring this year. I mean, 13 touchdowns, 11 at home, two on the road, and the Gilmore value is driven home again because he does what New England does. He takes away your best option, and then they turn into Dallas from a year ago. And that's why Bill is who Bill is, and that's why Jason is who Jason is. And again, they didn't run the ball this much except for the Jets game all year. The first three quarters, that's kind of what they did. And I felt like we got robbed of Dak's prove-it moment.

And I know some people are like, well, the calls didn't lose them the game. But the tripping stuff was egregious. And I felt like I had this feeling that everybody's talking about Dak and the MVP race and he should be talked about too. We literally had it. America's team, quote-unquote against the Pats the evil empire 95 yards and we had this dramatic moment where somebody was gonna get exposed and somebody would and it gets taken away by calls so I felt a little bit

dissatisfied at the end of the game and to your point I don't know what to make of it other than Brady looks really handsome in the rain man it looked It looked like a, didn't it look like a cologne commercial? Sitting. Yeah, but like not the high end. Not the high end. Yeah. Not like unisex stuff that you'd get in Soho, but something. Aqua Dejo?

That's not, I mean, that's good, but that's not, that's not like some sort of place that's just a boutique. What's your fragrance? Not to get too far off topic. Tell the people at home. I don't know that i'm even comfortable doing that because oh my god are you kidding me yeah yeah and it's almost always like more female angled stuff than than male so you know what's up now wow yeah i just made look your pheromones do different things. Every guy's different. Everybody's got their own chemistry. So, but I don't, I don't want to turn it into this big,

like, by the way, I rock creed. Shout out to Scott. Stap. Is that how you say his name? I hope so. The guy from creed,

the guy from creed. You don't know his name. I know what you're talking about, but Hey Kyle, can you get on the creed? Uh, check out their tour date. See if they're coming through LA.

Yeah, maybe we should hit one. I don't want to make this all about the Cowboys, though, because the Cowboys are a team that's barely beaten anybody. And I know that it's tantalizing how much talent they have. You're like, how the hell are they not better? So this movie is getting old. I still think that they'll probably get in and win the division and still give people problems. But Brady, though, here's the thing about Brady.

Everything around him is like, I mentioned them not going out and getting a number one. They don't go out and get a tight end. The fullbacks hurt. You've got patchwork on the offensive line. You're throwing to rookie receivers. He doesn't have to be the goat on days like that. He knows the defense he has. He manages the game and he's not been a manager his entire career. But this is where he's like, and we're going to talk about Carson a little bit. Carson in this situation, he's going to try to do too much. Other quarterbacks are going to try to do too much. Tom knows exactly what he needs to do to win in that situation. It's enough mobility. It's like that third and 20 conversion to Edelman.

I forget what quarter, but he shook off Robert Quinn. He set his feet again. He makes the throw and he does just enough and he knows what not to do. That's really what I took away from it. Not that I needed any reminder 20 years of this stuff, but it's just, hey, Brady's going to win this kind of game. For more often than not, he's going to win this kind of game.

And this is the part where New England starts to rally and they start to exaggerate the outside noise and everybody's looking at New England saying this is a really good football team they're different this year Brady doesn't have the weapons he hasn't been the same but he's still going to go out and win you that game but I agree with you the DAC thing like it really felt like oh my gosh here we go like let's see can this guy go the entire length of the field chances are they weren't going to do that and even if they got it down to the 20 or maybe even the 10 against that secondary, again, against the number one red zone touchdown defense in the NFL, it's not likely that you're

getting seven out of that. It just isn't. So to blame it all on the trips, I always feel like it's a loser mentality thing. But at the same time, you're right in that one moment. And for Dak, Dak is becoming a week toto-week discussion about what he is or what he isn't on the market. Here's what he is. I don't know that he's ever a top five guy. He has some numbers that would tell you that. He's number one in passing yards. The top five quarterbacks, by the way, in QBR, which is a little flawed and definitely slants towards running quarterbacks,

it's Lamar at one, Mahomes at two, Dak at three, Russell Wilson at at four and deshaun watson at five by the way how about that five black quarterbacks are one through five i love it that's unbelievable history is now and right considering where quarterbacks have been and the doubts and all that kind of stuff that's an unbelievable group of guys right there yeah it's cool and it's happening on the heels of and listen like i don't root for any i just want people to be represented properly and i think you know black quarterbacks are getting the credit they deserve now and the game is changing and i do think dactyl belongs in that discussion the way he's been playing because we get so caught up in doing these top five lists i feel like sometimes we have to feel like oh you

got to put brady in you got to put a rod in i call him a rod again to anybody listening who loves baseball i don't care that's that's the best a rod um so i think sometimes we put these legacy top fives in we should be talking about who's playing the best right now and dac is in that top five yeah i mean i agree you look at that list you're like this this isn't just an incredible story here so i do want to point out too because of the the DAC thing, I have some news here. Sources are telling me that before the season, right around the beginning of the season, DAC turned down four years and 140 million. Okay. So that's 35 million a year, which would tie him with Russell Wilson for the highest average annual salary. Russ is at 35. Roethlisberger's at 34. Aaron Rogers is at 33.5. Goff is 33.5. Essentially, this thing

becomes like, well, how soon did you sign your contract? Because Roethlisberger is actually as high even though he's up sooner because it was a shorter extension. It was a two-year extension. So Dak may have also turned down 100 million guaranteed. I don't know if that's 100 million guaranteed at signing. That would surpass anything else that we've had with Matt Ryan at $94.5. The practical guarantees on guys' contracts, Goff is like $110, Wentz is at $107. So there's a chance Dak turned down $100 million guaranteed at signing, highest average annual salary, and that wasn't enough. And I'm not criticizing him for that. But understand if those numbers, that's what I have on the numbers. Again, I don't know the language on

the guaranteed stuff. I can't get that confirmed. If that's what he's turning down, then you have to understand he's looking at resetting the market, which is something all people should be applauding because the franchise tag has kept average annual salaries down for far too long, especially at that position. So him losing or getting a touchdown at the end of that drive, like that's not factoring into what the price tag is going to be for him. So there you go. I just want to get that stuff out there. No, I agree. And I'm not mad at him for turning that down, but something to think about if you sign that contract in Dallas and you're killing it on the field, you can kill it off the field too.

Exactly. So like, you know, you're leaving a lot to chance there and certainly not going to slight a guy for believing in himself. A lot of what he does is believe in himself. I mean, that's one of his biggest assets is his leadership and belief. And, uh, you know, it's interesting when you look at him and not do revisionist history, but like, let's say he goes the length of that field and, and, and wins the game. Uh, we're talking about him in the MVP race. And if you look at the other guys in the race, Russell and Lamar, that's kind of the consensus right now. You could argue that Dak has the most talent around him,

but the worst coaching. So it's an interesting imbalance there for Dak. And, you know, I respect Dak, and I think he deserves to be in the conversation top five this year. There's no reason not to talk about it right now. That's not to say it's a legacy thing or a long-term thing, but right now, yeah. And he's looking because he'll be the guy doing the most recent contract

to reset that. He's not going to want just 35, apparently, if that's what he did and he turned that stuff down. I know you had one more shout-out in the New England thing. Yeah, I wanted to shout out Matt Slater. Not that he listens to the radio, but I know there's Pat's fans on here who know that well. One of the best teammates I had. I also talked, you know, Matt blocked the punt last night that set up a touchdown. He also had a huge touchdown in the Buffalo game as well in the other really tight game that they won. That was a big one for them when the offense was sputtering. So this is a guy who has a direct hand in winning two football games,

who's known as a special teams guy. He shows up every week, great teammate, great leader, and they have leadership in New England. And that's the reason why when we talk about that college football style playoff thing a little bit, I damn near didn't want to put the Pats on there because I think they have enough issues offensively in the top four, but their leadership and their coaching between guys like him, McCourty, Hightower, that leadership is going away. It's rare in the NFL, and they still have it in droves. So if New England comes away with a big win against Dallas

and then San Francisco absolutely puts it on Green Bay, I mean, that was an unbelievable performance, so we're going to spend some time on that. We want to have some fun with the college football playoff rankings coming out every Tuesday. If we were to rank the top four and ultimately top six teams, so the first four in, seeding, and then the next two, and feel free to use any ridiculous college football argument

that people, fans, media use for or against any teams. Everybody does it. I mean, like, literally, it's a moving target. So I'm just going to make my own rules up. Perfect, because that's all you do. You just use the stuff that tears down what's anti your argument and then just prop everybody else up that you're going for. All right. Do you want to go first?

I'll go first. Okay. Okay. I got the ravens one we've got two top five wins and and i'll reveal that the hawks are five for me they've obviously beaten the niners they got the worst loss it was as bad as um the saints worst loss but it happened early and losing to cleveland i don't think it's much worse than losing to atlanta but it's not much better even though that's looking better now strength Strength of schedule, 16, and they're a team that nobody wants to see right now. Nobody wants to see Baltimore.

They got a shot at home field. I think they get it, honestly. They still got the Rams. They got the Niners, the Steelers, and at the Browns, but they'll be favored the whole way the rest of the year. Since Peters got there, defense has been a lot better. I got them one. I got San Francisco second. Really bad strength of schedule. They've exposed some teams. They beat the shit out of Carolina, Green Bay, the Rams, and those are teams I think never got well, and I don't see Green Bay being quite the same after this loss.

They're balanced. They have one loss in division. I think if they lose to Seattle, that's a big mover. If they lose to Seattle twice, I think it's hard for you to make a case that if we're doing the college football playoff thing, you can allow a team in that's lost the same team twice. Because by them losing twice to the Seahawks, the Seahawks probably slide in the top four. And there's no room for both of them. The Saints, I'm going third. The home-to-home against the Hawks is a tiebreak for me. They got the worst loss in division, though.

It's like losing in the SEC to kind of a shitty team. They're going to get the Bama treatment. If Seattle wins out and New Orleans wins out, I don't know what happens. They're probably going to be favored in all their games. They've still got the Falcons, the Niners. That'll be the interesting line for me. New England, I'm going to say is like Bama. We're going to put them in at four. And the reason I'm giving the Saints the nod over them is mainly because the committee wants to see an AFC-AFC, NFC-NFC split. So they'll play the Ravens. Their best wins are the lowly NFC East, and they've got a tough schedule ahead,

and they've got a 26-strength schedule. I just don't believe in it. They're going to need style points offensively. That's my top four. I'll get to my fringe after you do your top four. Okay, give me your order again then because I feel like two teams you said got the Bama treatment. It usually doesn't happen. Well, you know, for me, it's the Saints and the Patriots. I mean, the Saints and the Patriots almost get legacy treatment

and their records are very good. I think, I think the Saints I struggle with, cause I thought about sliding the Hawks into that third slot. I still think the Hawks and the Saints are better than the Patriots, but you can't leave the Patriots out. You just can't. Yeah. See, that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to super bam on new England here. I have them one because you know why, even though they lost the head to head with Baltimore, it's that awful thing in college football. It's like, yeah, our loss is to you, but it's a better loss than your losses.

And they have two. So New England has the best loss of any of the teams. And I know San Francisco's loss against Seattle is up there. But the worst wins. But, yeah, they have the worst wins, but that's not what we do in college football. We only care about the losses. And Baltimore has two of them.

But this is our special thing.'s this it's this unbelievably annoying thing where we only look at who you lost to not who you beat but you know look if if you're new england and you've been in the college football playoff for like i don't know half of the last two decades then i could see that happening whereas baltimore has you know, the loss to the Chiefs, which is a one-score loss, but it wasn't really a one-score game. The loss to the Browns, it's bad. They should have also lost to the Steelers. So if I were sitting there on the desk with Reese Davis and Herbstreit

and all those guys, I'd be like, you know, they actually could have lost three games in a row, and Cincinnati was a one-score game. So I could start doing all those things. So I have New England ahead of them in college football sense. I have San Francisco too. And you're right. If you want to start doing strength of schedule with the heavy hitters, New England's 22, San Francisco's moved up to 30 after their win against Green Bay. And if it weren't for that win against Green Bay, I don't know that I would

have put them to, but it was so dominant. It's so horrifying. I think Garoppolo has been steadier, not great, but steadier, uhier later in the last few weeks. They didn't have to run the hell out of the ball, but that was an absolute jailbreak all night long. There's nothing that Green Bay could do to block those guys. And think about what they did to Aaron Rodgers. He was 3.15 yards per attempt in that game last night, the lowest number for Rodgers since 2008. He was 0-9 on third down in the first half. That Niners defense I still think is better than New England's defense,

but I'm going to put them at two. I've got Baltimore at three, and I have New Orleans at four, who I don't think their loss is as bad as the Browns' loss for Baltimore. I think their loss to Atlanta is inexplicable. They got just dump-trucked in that game. They were terrible. But it's in division, though. Oh, yeah, that's right.

The division games. Well, it's hate week, right? It'd be like the South Carolina loss this year. It's like, well, it's in conference. Weird shit happens in the SEC. I don't think anybody should be sitting there saying South Carolina is a division game. It's a division game. conference like weird shit happens in the SEC I don't think anybody should be sitting there saying South Carolina is a hey it's a division game it's a division game well I'm not saying I disagree or

agree the one thing I disagree with your four though is you know the San Francisco and New England shuffling like they both have bad schedules they both have essentially the same record they have the same record they're one lost teams but San Francisco's wins have been so good and you can't tell me the Patriots match up well against them at this point that front this isn't about match that o-line this isn't about okay well i'm putting my if they play in the super bowl i think i'll actually pick san francisco because of what you just said i mean how give me your real quick just do you have do you have nick bosa posters up all over your workout shed now? No, I still don't think he's necessarily a better rusher than Joey. I love both their games.

I love both their games, but one's working with a really good group around him, one through four, and some really good coverage. Listen, I'm not saying... I watched the entire game last night. It got boring after a little bit. I didn't think Green Bay was ever that good. You know that. And I'm not saying they can't make a run, but I'm watching Nick Bosa just baptize people

left and right. His power is something his brother can't do. I think his brother has more technique. And so it's just, uh, it's, it's, it's different flavors, man. I mean, I really think, uh, when you're looking at rushers, it's an art form. So yeah, I, I, I think that'd be a bad matchup for New England, and that's why I would keep them at two, along with their really impressive wins.

New England, you could argue against and be like, hey, it's like the ACC. They're in the AFC East. Like, it's a joke. In the Clemson thing. Yeah, you'd just be like, all right. But, again, there's people that hate the SEC that are arguing very pro-Clemson right now because they are ignoring all the things they criticized Bama for earlier this year and then just saying, no, but Clemson's absolutely rolling.

By the way, quick thing on the Bosa clan. There's been some internet chatter about just a family free-for-all, how the Longs versus the gronks versus the bosses would do in just a battle yeah you know oh we're winning i got kyle bro and like if it was prime howie it's not prime howie anymore but prime howie could could beat up like 99 no i don't even want to say 99 99.9 percent of people on the planet like like even random, you know how, like when you think of who you could beat up, you're like, well, there's always that there's just random dudes. I mean, like Indiana Jones had to fight that guy by the airplane. Like my dad could beat that guy up. Like Kyle. Yeah. It wouldn't even, he wouldn't even had to use the prop and like Kyle would have picked the dude up and just stuck him through the prop

listen i'm bringing tenacity toughness i'm heavy-handed i'm not the biggest strongest guy in the world i'm gonna hold my own but kyle and prime howie sorry could prime howie like if if tank abbott and him were arguing over a parking spot are you taking howie my dad's not gonna do a lot of arguing if Tank Abbott and him were arguing over a parking spot, are you taking Howie? My dad's not going to do a lot of arguing. I'll just put it that way. Okay, so look, the Bosa guys, though, are trim. They're athletic.

I think there's a conditioning thing there where they have the advantage on you. And when you start adding the Gronkowski clan up together, I think three more just were cloned. So I don't even know how many, like the Gronk clan could show up 20 deep and you'd be like, who the hell is this guy? I'd be like, oh, he's in middle Tennessee state. Like he's a long snapper.

I think you pick your best three. I think you pick your best three or your best two and you roll with it. If we went best two, best three, as long as Kyle's there, I feel really good about it. And if we, and if it's actually like prime Howie, not like Howie after a bunch of shoulder surgeries and whatnot, like,

you know, down some weight, I feel very good. Not late night West wing Howie. No, not late, late night watching West wing, uh,

for sure. Not. Um, but yeah, I, and also by the way, the bosses are just really, really,

really, really good rushers. So I don't want to overvalue that in a street fight okay all right i think that's i think all of that was fair and people are going to think i'm just backing my guy here i don't think anybody has the trump card over over kyle and i don't know that gronk feels pain. No, they really don't. I'm just telling you, just trust me. Just trust me. This is not a take.

This is objective. Ask anybody that's played with Kyle. No, and I could see Gronk after getting hit in the head four times, and he's still not hurt, and he's bleeding, and he's just like, hey, does anybody just want to dance instead? And Kyle would be like, I'm not here to dance instead and kyle be like i'm not here to dance okay so we did our one through four we did our one through four who would you would you have an afc team in either five or six slots like they put up on the television graphic yes

when i when i wrote this down and and listen at the end of the day disclaimer is somebody's gonna feel disrespected here it really doesn't't matter. This is an exercise, guys. This is not real life. Patriots fans, I know I put you four, but one, you shouldn't give a shit about me. Ignore the noise. Do your job. Well, this is real, though.

And two, now at five through eight, I have the Hawks, the Chiefs, the Vikings, and then Green Bay. That's such a recency thing with Green Bay. No, it's not. Who's been saying all year that they don't like Green Bay as a team? You liked him at the beginning of the year. You liked their defense, the Smith brothers, shout out. But I remember you did pivot. You did pivot. So I'm not trying to call you out. After the Broncos game, you can't because after the

Broncos game, I do four shows here, right? I'm a lot like you. There's a lot of me out in the airwaves right now. I know some of your listeners don't like that in my mentions, you know, evidently I think your NBA fans don't like me much, but, um, I've said on record that after that Denver game, I was not a big fan of their, the way they, they play the run on defense. I think that Aaron's doing a lot with a little, and at some point they'll come back down to earth and Aaron's road splits. As you mentioned, he played bad last night. He'd been bad most of the year. In fact, I bet big on the Niners last night just to prove this, double down on it.

But enough about the Packers. They're not getting in the 14 playoff. The Hawks, for me, were really tough because right now I think they're better than the Saints, but the Saints own the head-to-head with a backup quarterback. So that'll all shake itself out. I have the Chiefs sixth. Tough schedule. Mahomes, Reed, they're getting healthy.

They're really balanced, actually. And the committee does respect injuries, right? And the committee always factors in the injury stuff. Yep, no doubt. And I think they're getting balanced. Like, their defense is playing better. Actually, there's a lot of people who are more worried about their offense lately than their defense.

Big game versus the Pats. But otherwise, but otherwise, they're all division games. They're under 500 games left. They could make a run. The Vikings, to me, they'll never get in because people don't believe in Kirk. They left enough to chance the committee. The committee's not going to do it. NFC North bias. Seahawks are easily five.

The Chiefs thing is interesting there, though. The metrics still really like the chiefs and they're at seven and four with Houston battling it out for the third seed in the AFC. That's not a terrible, when you first said it, I'm like, come on, really? Are we putting an AFC team in there in the six? But I think I'd put Seattle and I still, I'm not going to write off green Bay. I'm just, I'm just not, I'd have them. I have them six, maybe knowing I'm switching them out for Kansas city a little bit later. I just also know that they're not going to write off Green Bay. I'm just not. I'd have them six, maybe knowing I'm switching them out for Kansas City a little bit later. I just also know

that they're not going to get home field and they've been just much different on the road. So it's not necessarily a disrespect thing. But to me, the Saints are in the top four because of the possibility

of home field advantage. They have not been impressive lately. They were my favorite team. I thought they were the best team in the league for a long time. But it's going to come back down to earth. Yeah, it's week to week, but if they don't get home field, they're not three for me.

If they get home field, they're at least three. I'm not sure the committee would appreciate that kind of, really, you shouldn't be projecting. We are the committee, bro. Oh, that's right. Okay, let's do our plane rides here, and then we've got the schedule theory for me. It's not even a theory. I'm just going to point it out that it is usually the schedule stupid, the way we talk about all of these NFL teams. And then we get a couple of fun things with offensive stuff and celebrity net worth. Plane ride. Worst one? uh it was probably we had the same teams we chose from the raiders being minus 56 point differential crashing back down to earth uh but i'm actually gonna go dallas with jera jera i think

jera's on his own plane but after that press conference short week against buffalo like buffalo has been pretty good lately josh allen great two-game stretch they're beat up they're you know feeling that new New England hangover. I think it's a long flight going west. Yeah, no bueno. I'm going to go Oakland just because, and I like this part for Darnold. Any of these guys, whether it's Allen, Lamar has proved himself more so than any of the quarterbacks now in that draft class. But even though the numbers tell you half of them are going to bust, I've talked about this before.

I just taped a video for The Ringer where I went through it, and it's like, hey, here's the last 20 years. Here are all the first-rounders. There's 55 quarterbacks, and 28 are convincingly busts. And a couple of these guys are going to be busts. And Darnold has been thrown in there like, hey, what do we think Darnold's going to be in a couple years? So I think that part of it's great.

But if you're Oakland and you thought, hey, this thing's working the gruden thing the mac thing it's it's it could be nothing more than a bad week but you got it handed to you against the jets and we can talk west east and all those different things but um you know i think that one is right there with dallas but maybe the dallas one is worse because the magnitude of the entire thing best plane ride i'm gonna go baltimore leaving la tonight whoa it's gonna be a good one no i agree future plane rides i do i do i mean the one thing that now there's a big swing here it could be awful because they're gonna get home at like 7 a.m or it could be just the greatest thing in the world i like seattle though i like seattle because you know seattle is realizing that they're for

real they came into um you know with no clowny you know bottom five in in past defense dvoa is like 21 they come in and they hold the eagles who are going through some stuff let's go we'll get to why don't you just give us the eagle stuff here now instead just do it well that was a dominant win look i know the injuries thing here with philly you can go over it here but people are looking at you as like this wentz apologist now and it was awful yesterday well yeah here's the thing okay so first off could have been more dominant i mean matt calf dropped the ball in the end zone and Russ inexplicably overthrew Hollister in the end zone, who was wide open. So those are two scores right there.

They're lucky it wasn't worse. And looking at it last week, they're saying, you know, the Pats struggled to get that win in some ways, and it wasn't even close. Listen, the Carson thing. Yeah, I'm a Carson. First I would, I hated Carson cause I built Nick a shrine to be funny. And cause I liked the movie major league and everybody was in a bad mood. Yeah. I hate, yeah. So I hate Carson first. Now I'm a Carson apologist. I have people in my mentions asked me if I'm related to him. And then yesterday I said, Carson hasn't played well yet today. Like he's playing bad today. I'll give you that. Um, and then I have a buddy who's in the Eagles press box in Philly that texts me. He's like, yo, people up here reading your tweet and it's causing quite a stir. I was like, Oh, what are they saying? Somebody was like, Oh,

he's trying to be TV guy. I was like, some motherfucker in the press box said that you're in the press box. And like, all I've done is you're in the press box. Who's in the press box, the press I'm tweeting from my fucking couch. I don't need to have a podcast or be on Thursday Night Football with Amazon or be on The Ringer with you. It's not how I make my money. I'm not a take guy. I don't think I am.

They were accusing you of being a take guy. You were trying to like, how can I get on Get Up? Yeah, basically, I want to get on Get Up. I want to get on whatever shows. What want to get on, you know, whatever shows. What's Stephen A on these days? First take. Yeah, I want to be on first take. Because I said Carson's playing bad in a game,

but he overthrew two screen passes badly in the first quarter and was all over the place. And I've been defending Carson all year. Carson had a bad game. I think he's bottomed out. You know, there's the excuses. I'll get to them. But, you know, sometimes you look at it like a Kirk Cousins thing,

and not to compare the two because they're different types of players. But Kirk hit rock bottom against the Bears and never looked back. Now, I think there's a lot of schematic things that are better off and, you know, some skill position players that are much better off than what Carson has in Philly but you know he he's got the injuries we all know we all know who he's without and who he had I mean he's he's missing Brooks who we can get the anxiety thing in a bit Brandon Brooks who's the best guard in the league you know who deals with anxiety had to miss the game because of an illness which came out later later. Say he had basically an episode that he hadn't had in a couple years.

So I want to take this time to support Brooks, and I know that's a tough thing to go through. So he also is missing Deshaun Jackson, AJ, Nelly, Lane, which is huge. You look at the Lane numbers. You look at the lane numbers, you know, with him the past few games, three drives, 147 yards, 10 points. Without him, 23 drives, 509 yards, and nine points. So, like, that's a big difference. And he was under siege a lot yesterday. He's throwing to—by the way, Matt Pryor's never played a game. Brooks comes out.

He's got to play, like, 45 snaps. He's throwing to Ortega Whiteside. I got to say it like that, supposedly. J-Matt, who just came off the street like two weeks ago. Hollins, Mack Hollins, and Greg Ward, who's a kid from Houston who I really like but hasn't gotten a lot of time in the league. And J-Ajai, as your running back, who is off the street off an ACL 10 days ago, you stick anybody in this situation, it's not going to be good. So what we're looking at right now is a range. You have Carson's ceiling, which we know is very high, which is the first thing I would look at in a quarterback. How high is your ceiling? Because coaches' jobs are to get it out of that player. Play callers and coaches.

Now we know this is the floor. I think this is the floor. This is as bad as he can be. It's lower than I thought. I hope this is the floor. Right. I think it's the floor, dude. You stick anybody in that offense, it's going to be an issue. All right, but look, I get it.

You run through all the injuries. I'm just saying, doesn't there have to be an adjustment to yourself as the quarterback going all right you know what and this is somebody we talked about being an mvp a couple years ago this is somebody we've always put ahead of all these other dudes that consistently somebody that's always been projected as a top five guy like hey he's gonna be top five when he's at don't you have to understand your own game situation when you've had it now for multiple weeks and that's where i'm getting yeah i'm getting there because and here's the problem. Forgive me for going for fucking four minutes on this thing,

but the problem is that any take I give on Carson Wentz, unless it's nuanced, is going to get blown out of proportion and misinterpreted. I tweeted that he didn't play so well. I got people in the fucking press box telling me I'm TV guy. I got somebody quote tweeting me like, see, even his teammates are saying it. I'm like, dude, you're a verified account. I've been singing his praises all year long.

The drops are not an excuse anymore. Players aren't dropping balls. He's missing people. He's having a couple bad games here. And yesterday was abysmal. Five turnovers, he had a big hand in them. But baked into that anti-Wentz argument is always Nick Foles, who I love as well. So I can't keep track of who I love and who I hate.

I like both the guys. They're different players. I think Foles, if you look at it, you'd be surprised. Since 2017, and 2017 is relevant here because that's the ceiling for both these players. And Nick had two peaks in his career, by the way. There was a Chip Kelly peak. There was the floor in St. Louis in 2015, which I was on that team. He threw 10 interceptions, seven touchdowns, was completing

just north of 50%. And we went bad. We were bad. And so coaching matters. Scheme matters. And I'll say this because since 2007, since Frank Reich left and since Flip left, you've got Foles is 4-4, Wentz is 10-12. Foles is 10 touchdowns, 5 picks. Wentz is 38 touchdowns, 13 picks. 6.9 yards in attempt for Foles, 7.1 for Wentz. 96 rating for Foles, 94 rating for Wentz. So they're the same quarterback, just in different places dealing with different schemes.

They've had similar numbers. And you could even argue that Carson's been better, which negates this anti-Carson on account of the Foles thing argument. The fact of the matter is scheme matters. And we had lightning in a bottle in 2017. Not just that. We had so much depth. And we had so many good players.

You cannot tell me it's even comparable. had so many good players. Like you cannot tell me it's even comparable. And the difference is I mentioned, I mentioned Brady earlier. Brady's got a shit situation right now that I'm sure he's not happy about, but Brady goes out and manages the game. And that doesn't mean he can't win it at times and knows when to make the big throw. But I believe that because of a self-fulfilling prophecy in Philly with the fans, the media hating Carson, The kid is human. It's in his head, bro. I'm like, I'm watching, like, he's definitely dealing with that stuff too. And you can say, well, he gets paid a lot of money to not have to deal with that stuff. Eventually it has to be better if we think that you're going to be this guy,

even with all of those challenges around. So I would ask, so I would pose this question to you or anybody that wants to move on from Carson. For what? Well, I didn't say that. No, I know, but I have that. I'm not even close to that. Right. Okay, well, that's a real narrative in Philly. You're going to move on from a franchise quarterback?

Like, go do it. Go see what happens. I'm just telling you. You move on from Carson. Somebody that can get the most out of this kid is going to get the most out of this kid. And you're actually sorry. Isn't even close to where I was going with that. And no, I know, I know you're not, but I'm playing devil's advocate here. So, I mean, listen, context matters. Certainly not making excuses. I can't keep track of whether I like him or I hate him according to some people

on Twitter and whatnot, but I like him and Nick. You I said, Nick, the guy you're comparing to, has not been much better since 2017, even with the Eagles. They're two good quarterbacks. They do things differently. You could argue that maybe in this terrible situation where everybody's hurt, Nick might be better off because Carson is a playmaker, not a game manager. And that's what he needs to work on being a little bit more of knowing that, okay, in this situation, this, at this point in the season, manage the game a little better. Okay. I still want to get to the Garrett story. Cause I know you have something on that. I got to get the schedules. We'll have fun at the end, but I want to do a little bit on this Haskins

thing. Dwayne Haskins quarterback for the the Redskins, they win 19-16 against Detroit. He had had a tough game throughout, but when it mattered and they got the game-winning field goal on this one, he had a nice run and everybody was making, that was for Stephen A. Smith jokes. He had his teammate from Ohio State, McLaurin, for a 17-yarder on that drive to get him in a better situation there so you know look the whole thing it worked out for him at the end but then when they had the Lions throw a pick Redskins office had to come back out on the field take a knee and Haskins was taking a selfie with a fan and as you can imagine Callahan now the head coach wasn't thrilled with it and this became kind of a generational debate although it's an okay boomer moment it really was and if anybody's perused the kids content who had the

picture taken who actually was the kid was like hey and then haskins took his phone and then took the picture that kid sucks he is the poster boy for everything that is annoying about generational arguments he went at theismann he did the okay boomer a million times he said hey i you know and then went on tv he's like I was a guy that had never been a fan now I'm a fan he was engaging with fans what's wrong with that hey you know what maybe Julian Edelman when the Pats go on defense can come sit with us and do an AMA and section whatever like there's there's a line to it where yes in that moment Haskins says he has to be better I'm not even beating up Haskins for it I actually was more offended by the kid who was arguing and having his moment where everybody's hey dude everybody's gonna forget who you are by thursday um it was my thing is remind him just remind him yeah just remind him

the kid's excited the kid seems like he's got some leadership ability i'm not gonna get carried away here and be like the football thing is figured out because they beat the lions and driscoll but the kid between last week pulling the o-line together which i thought was again like good idea maybe wrong place i think again the uh they're taking selfies with the fans that's that's legitimate excitement and and passion on a bad team on a by a rookie but somebody's got to be like a vet or somebody's like, dude, this is going to look bad. You got to come sit over here.

I don't want to deal with this all tomorrow. And it's not the end of the world at all, but it is funny. And the funny part to me is like, it's not the end of the world at all. But even pointing it out on Twitter yesterday, I was watching people just get eviscerated for even being like, did you see what Haskins did?

Okay, boomer. Like, dude, like, listen, my man, it, it's not the end of the world, but I've never seen it happen. Yeah. When you're sitting there saying a vet should be there to make sure it doesn't happen. What are you like? What is the vets? Hey, let's make sure eyes on Haskins. Let's make sure he's not going to IG live. No, no, no, no. When you see that, you're not, no, I'm taking, I'm actually taking the pressure off the kid who got excited and did something a little silly.

Uh, I think if, if you see it, somebody would be like, Hey man, we still gotta, we still gotta take a knee here. We gotta kneel down.

It's not the end of the world. It really doesn't matter. Who's got to take the knee. I'm sure case Keenum wasn't real happy to go out and take the knee. Dudes hate that. Uh, anyway. All right. So it wasn't keenan wasn't real happy to go out and take the knee dudes hate that uh anyway all right so it wasn't wasn't so it's not a big deal though like let's the disclaimer here is it's not a big deal for me it's more it's more the impact and the fallout and how funny it is depending on what narrative you're trying to push and it's usually lines up generationally but i wasn't the only player that was like, yeah, that wasn't the best look. Yeah, but that's not a narrative.

That isn't narrative. It's common sense. Sometimes we make these things more complicated. And I know I've just said that this became a generational thing. But this is a very simple thing. Like, hey, you're on this football team. If you want to take a selfie with a fan, you can wait until after the game. And maybe it means nothing for Haskins or maybe three years from now we come back.

If Haskins struggles, it'll be a thing that is brought up. I don't think means anything but it will be brought up I don't think it's gonna but we but when we continually praise like the Patriots for the Patriot way and doing everything right and not giving anybody anything we were mystified by it the same people are mad if you kind of chuckle at the Dwayne Haskins thing it's like chill man like it's not that serious and one guy was like you need to calm I'm like, it sounds like you need to calm down, bro. I'm just tweeting about what I see just like every play on the field. Let's get to Garrett and the rest of the stuff here. But first, how about this read? You're going to make fun of me so bad. Here we go. I'm pretty conscious about what I eat, especially when I'm going to work out. Hey, Google, how much protein is in an egg?

There are six grams of protein in one large hard-boiled egg. The Google Assistant is ready to help. You get more done with just your voice. In the car, at home, and everywhere you take your phone, a little help, hands-free. Just say, hey, Google, to get started. Go ahead, laugh. Hey, Google. a little help hands-free just say hey google to get started go ahead laugh hey google buy ryan some shirts with sleeves on them kyle who approved that who approved that was that dude it was not me i wouldn't have done that to you was did liz do that to me i don't know dude that's on the nose did did google talk back by the way it does

we facetime during this pod because as two two friends who are trying to do a pod it's hard without the facetime and uh it looks like you've been doing an upper workout today bro no i'm just getting started i'm just walking around the house as soon as i leave here okay it's on i don't even know what i'm gonna do i don't even know because i'm still i fit cut off i'm just nursing stuff um so there you go there's there's our there's our google demo um and thank you for the answer there okay miles garrett uh we didn't really touch on it and i know you want to talk about it specifically because you're connected to the story with his involvement in water boys but the latest thing after the appeal was was denied and the leaked story about

whether or not a racial slur was used and Mason Ruoff, after actually being benched in his game for Pittsburgh, denied using it. It's always a really difficult thing to try to figure out. But the one thing that jumped out to me was the story about whether or not his penalty or his punishment would leak into next season. And that's where I think in the moment, we are collectively the worst. When we talk about punishment, everybody is super emotional. That's when you're not supposed to make decisions.

That's when you shouldn't be negotiating. Instead, everybody's emotional, suggesting all these things and trying to outdo the next guy with all this punishment. What he did was bad. What he did was the worst thing. If you think that Rudolph should have been suspended because he grabbed

Garrett's mask first and stepped to him, then I would say that means you think that everybody that steps to somebody or grabs a helmet and a pileup should then be suspended. That seems absurd. Garrett did the wrong thing. But having said all of that, Garrett should not be suspended in the next year. That's ridiculous. So I'm kind of left at kind of these murky conclusions. But one thing I'm definitive in is that let's not lose our minds and have the guy be missing weeks into 2020 no i agree with you and i think we've already lost our minds but you can already see it your your hypothesis um that watch next week you know it'll subside it went

from last week the guy punched a baby on the field was what i felt like happened and babies aren't even allowed to play no babies aren't allowed to play. And if they were, you shouldn't punt them. But that's what I thought that he did. I thought he picked up an eight-month-old and punted it out of the stadium and it landed in Lake Erie. Is that the lake?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That was what I thought Twitter saw. But it was a bad, ugly football fight. And Waterboys is, of course, shameless plug, our charity. You can go check it out at waterboys.org. Miles Garrett is a big part of it. I handed him the keys.

I know the kid well. I don't know him that well. We don't go back. But I admire his intellect and his intentional nature in how he approaches his charity work. This was way out of character. And when it happened, I was so confused. And in fact, for the record, I'm the one who condemned my buddy and the guy that works with my charity, possibly the cost of us getting donations. And I also didn't make it about Rudolph at all. That wasn't the day for it.

Friday wasn't. I did it on my show. And a lot of this I've already said, but most people don't listen to my pod, so I figure I'll just say it again. We've got people in the aftermath, Peter King saying something that hasn't happened in decades needs to be litigated like something

that hasn't happened in decades. Well, that's just not true. I mean, you got Flozell Adams. You've got Antonio Smith. Hell, you've got Joe Green, who is one of the good guys in our NFL history who had his moments

and is a great ambassador for the league. He's my dad's favorite player. He's like, all I heard about is how awesome he is. And in 1970, I think he struck somebody with a helmet, ironically, against the Cleveland Browns. And so I would ask like

peter king or mark slareth who i you know not to single him out it's just one of many tweets that said i've met and former players saying i've never seen this ever in my life on a football field i you're either really lucky or disingenuous because i saw a couple helmets swung at least and um maybe they met it in games maybelereth means in a game that he played in though or just yeah maybe maybe but but but then i would ask like a schlereth or somebody and like believe me i like mark like me and mark are cool i would ask i just disagree like somebody who says you've never seen it i'd say well it's happened in practice actually on camera and actually it's happened in the game i've never seen somebody connect that way in a game but

antonio smith hit incognito right upside the jaw with his helmet less than a decade ago. I would just say, so is your problem that it happened and it looks bad for the league? Or is your problem that it happened at all? Because if your problem is that somebody possibly had a chance to get hurt, then you should be going back and litigating practice fights and everything that didn't happen in primetime on Thursday night. Sounds more like you're concerned about the image of the league. And then there's the fallout, right? And I've said this with a slur. I knew about it on Friday

after we shot our show. I heard about it from his team, was told to keep it on low. Now, I don't necessarily agree with the strategy of keeping it on low because as Miles has now learned, for whatever his motivations were for not bringing it out, whether it was to not incite a race war or make an excuse for his actions, which he's continued to say, there's no excuse for my actions, it leaked. And that's what happens in situations like this. You go to league office. I don't know if the league office leaked it. I doubt his team did because they were trying to keep it down. I don't know who did it but if you're calling miles a liar and i do not know what happened on the field only two people know that maybe more but i think a couple more probably would because i mean they're all okay yeah but you're telling

me there's never an incident okay but you're not there's not an incident in the entire game where the two of them are walking by each other or I know you're talking about the one play, but we don't even know that the allegation was that it was only on the one play or the one play. So I would just say this. If your basis for calling Miles a liar automatically, and I do not know what happened on the field, I'm not going to choose sides because that's two grown men. Whether I know one or work with one or not, that's between them. And your premise for calling him a liar is that it took him a week to talk about it. You're completely wrong because he didn't talk about it. It got leaked. He was forced to talk about it because people couldn't keep their mouth shut on it. And so I guess my thing is, it's just as

unfair to do that as it would be for me to pigeonhole Mason Rudolph because of his politics and assume that he's going to drop an N-bomb on a field full of dudes that would not be very happy about it. First off, it's incredibly, I mean, it goes without saying, it's ridiculously wrong if that's what happened. Two, you'd have to be a total moron. So just because he wears a red hat, he's got a crush on Tommy Lauren. And as I noted, not the knockoff Tommy Lauren, Lauren, and as I noted, not the knockoff Tommy Lauren, Britt McHenry, but the real Tommy Lauren, I'm not going to assume that he's going to use that slur. So it's wrong to assume either guy's lying just off that. Only two people know it, and the NFL says they don't have any film.

I'm not saying this is the motivation, but you can't have a violence and a racism problem. So the quicker this goes to bed, the better for the league. I know that I've heard about his team kind of handling this in the past week, and I feel like they've been trying to sell whether accurate, inaccurate. I don't know. But the way they've gone about trying to sell like, hey, make sure if you're talking about miles, make sure you understand all these things. And this is all I've heard secondhand. It's not like any of them called me. I've only heard good things from teams that evaluated him that know about him.

I'm not even talking about team people from the cleveland browns i'm talking about other teams that have that have asked me about it i don't really know what to believe i don't know if rudolph wears that hat that that means what he's he's down for saying i know a lot of people do um it doesn't you know i think some people can vote a certain way because of the economy and it doesn't mean that everybody's in the same group. Well, this isn't a political podcast. No, no, right, right. Sometimes we are.

But look, the appeals officers are James Thrash and Derrick Brooks. Do you think the NFL right now, if it were true, would want to tell a black player, hey, we don't believe you or we don't want this out because we want to protect Mason Rudolph? Do you think anybody would do that in 2019? Why are you assuming that Derek Brooks would know? Why are you assuming that those guys would know? The NFL, if there was a film, which by the way,

evidently they were looking for a mic. And Jay Glazer reported, and I know this is true, and I can verify because I knew this on Friday, was that, and I knew about the slur on Friday, and I wasn't the only one evidently because Jay came out and said that. You knew about the accusation of the slur. I knew about the accusation, allegedly, and I've tried to say that as much as possible.

It's tiresome to say it every sentence. Jay Glazer was supposed to have a sit-down interview with Miles on Sunday, and either the league or the Browns killed that. I don't know. But they were also looking for tape. They were looking for microphones. And a guy that I trust in the league who mics people and knows about that side of things was like, it's very abnormal that the NFL wouldn't have a mic on the field, side of things like it's very abnormal that the that the NFL wouldn't have a mic on the field that somebody's not mic'd whether it's the guard or the center or Mason or you know so it's just the the circumstances surrounding it are unfortunate because we're never going to

know the truth and somebody is really wrong here whether you're lying about that or whether you said it and if he said it I'll say this if he said it and he allegedly say this. If he said it, and he allegedly said it, and the unfortunate thing is this soundbite's going to make the most news out of this entire segment, I would have hit him twice. Yeah, I get it. Look, I don't know. I mean, honestly, it's been a week plus of it.

I don't know who to believe. But if you're telling us that on Friday you had known about it, the execution of getting it out there, or if you're Garrett, I don't know, because then I feel like I'm going down the road where it feels like I'm protecting Rudolph. I mean, maybe the NFL didn't mic up Rudolph because they were like, dude, Rudolph, come on. Yeah, we don't.

Well, you just can't have. And listen, Cleveland fans that played this out tailgating and were hitting a dummy of Mason Rudolph, classless. People are drinking. But at the end of the day, I don't think any fan base is immune to that type of activity. I think if the roles were reversed,

the Steelers fans would be doing the same shit. So it's unfortunate. We don't know what to make of the veracity of that allegation. Ready to have some fun? Yeah, that wasn't fun. Okay, this spawned from who's richer, Russillo or Big Cat?

And I think we came down to some kind of conclusion on the text thread that he has some stuff coming, potentially, and I don't want to get in another man's pocket here, even though we all just talk about it all the time with sports. We also don't want to steal a segment. We're pretty sure we didn't steal this from PMT, but we don't listen to a lot of pods, even people we like. No, I listen to a lot of their interviews, but I don't. What happens is the part of my take audience is so young that anything that you do that may be similar to something they've done, which could have very well been something Van Pelt

and I did 10 years ago, then it turns into you stole it from those guys. And you're like, well, actually, a lot of guys have been doing a lot of stuff a long time and you're like 18. So just trust that guys have been around like 26 years more than you have. And we're friends with Dan. Yeah. And we're all friends anyway. And PFT.

Yeah. PFTft i don't know what the rankings are right now between those guys and don't leave out hank so yeah but tell them what it is though what the content what what the segment is what what the entire conversation did we say it was net worth we're doing that worth thing right so we started doing some googling of net worths and all this stuff and the information out there is so incredibly bad. Like mine, there's a couple that I don't want to bum people out here. Because let's face it, guys that do well in this business make more money than you want to hear that they're making. But the downside of that is I had no money, like literally no money to my name up until like 32, 33 years old.

Okay, like zero. So, you know, that's the trade-off. I've seen your pad now. It's pretty good. There's one website. I swear all these celebrity net worth things, what we're going to do here is we're going to do celebrity net worth over-unders based on limited internet research. The reason why I love the limited internet research is you can just keep going and going and going. I've seen some about me that say I'm making $50,000 a year. That's a little low. There's one that has my net worth. It's close. There's another one that's not even close. I always think they're written by Russian people. This one says he seems so much confidential about his personal life. He has not yet revealed his love affair and married life. He has not talked about his girlfriend

or wife. He may be a married. He may be a married or in a relationship, but no proof about the rumor is yet published. He drives a Land Rover which cost around $73,000. He is living a luxurious lifestyle with his family. Yeah, that's good. Hey,

say hi to the kids in the background. Hey, hey kids. mr silo yeah right thanksgiving how's that range over running i i uh i wish it only cost 73 000 but oh flex yes weird flex but let's uh let's do this so we we're gonna we're gonna tee up three to each other and we're gonna say over under and then whatever whatever internet stuff you want to use here because that's the other thing is all my guys i have all these quotes from these i don't know who writes these net worth websites they're the most poorly written things ever but i can't wait

to do it all right all right are you Yeah. You want me to hit you first? Why don't you hit me first? Okay. Salt Bay. The Turkish chef who does the salt thing off the elbow in a sensual manner. What are you setting the over under at? Okay. I found a number that says 50 million. 50?

Five zero. I'm taking the under i think i think homeboy's worth in the range of 5 to 10 million dollars because i i think that i think that his restaurants are probably doing really well i think in assets if you had are we doing assets are we doing just like cash in the bank well we never know right because there's there's assets there's future earnings which was hilarious because then when i googled the celebrity net worth, and then I was like, does net worth mean future potential earnings? And then it just sent me a ton of links of future celebrity net worth, which is the second one coming up to you, by the way, future the rapper. Okay. So Salt Bae chain, I just got this

from my dude here, Cowboy Reed. It's not doing well, by the way. It's not doing well. No, It's not doing well, by the way. It's not doing well. No, the chain restaurants are worth $1.5 billion, according to Google. No, but see, I found stuff. The guy dressed up as Castro and stood in front of a picture of a Castro mural, and then somebody was going at him. And he basically equated the Castro revolution to his revolution in being a restaurateur. And then people in Miami are like peace. I actually salt base sucks.

If you Google them and start reading about this stuff, he pulls tips and then they have a service fee that if you break glasses and plates, apparently all allegedly right where you take, he takes all the tips from that night shift and then the broken plates and glasses are paid for out of the tips. And then he pulls the tips to everybody else. So he got hit with a massive multi ahundred thousand dollar lawsuit by a waitress.

He had to settle out of court for it. Apparently he was doing it in Miami. He was doing it in New York. He fed this Venezuelan dictator that didn't go over well. So there's a lot of stuff out there on him. And despite the views on Instagram, I don't know what his hand is in any of the restaurants. I don't know what his percentage is. Is he first money in? Is he any of these things? One New York steakhouse was described as like the worst, most overpriced steakhouse in all of New York City. So it's definitely south

of 50 million. I don't even know what the number is. Well, you're dealing with some, I think it's south of there. I think it's between five and 10 mil. I think I have a hot take. If he doesn't have his hair, he's not the same. It's not the same. I mean, the wrist action is salt. The wrist action is yes. He's salt Bob without the, without the, uh, without the Vidal Sassoon looking ass, uh, man, great Vidal Sassoon pull. Yeah. And, and at the end of the day, like, I think he might be a victim of his own hype, uh, much like a movie, like the Joker, uh, you know joker uh you know you're there's so much build up and then you go to salt bae's restaurant and it's steaks a little dry you know the experience isn't great a lot of broken glass a lot of unhappy uh servers yeah i think north of five but lower

than 10 okay all right i think we settled it what do you got for me i think the internet pays too ryan no i get it you do shit like that i would look i would love i've thought about posting my shoulder workout from this past weekend because i'm really proud of it and then i'm going to start selling some pea protein and whatever but i was going to do a full ig story as if i were a real fitness person just to screw around with it just to see what what would happen knowing it's working for some guys and girls. I'm seeing people with like easily six figure followers who I'm like, yo, you're not even in shape. Yeah. I think a lot of those people, if you did, Oh, I have a half a million followers on Instagram. I'm pumping out some teeth whitener, a little, a little pea protein, you know, scrunchies are back.

I think those people are, are well below a million dollars but their celebrity net worth is always high because they look at the following on stuff and i don't i don't always buy that and i gotta tell you some of these sumo deadlift videos it's not that impressive but you know what i don't i don't want to go down that road yeah especially not on upper body day for you i'll go next uh i will go with a big earner here. Strangely, a big earner. Michael the Turner burner? Carrot Top.

Oh, no. Carrot Top. Carrot Top, the Google machine says he's worth 75 big ones. I think he's worth more. You think he's worth more? Usually, if you get... And listen. Is he still selling out? There's nothing against getting work done up top on the grill but not for me but usually if you start getting work done on the

grill i just assume your financials are out of order all right but he's got he's got he's the luxor guy luxor i know i read about it I'm looking at this right now. I mean, he's every night. I'm taking the under, but not by much. I think comedians do well, especially like if there's a little nostalgia with it. And,

uh, my man is in his fifties, by the way. But again, I'm sticking to the fact that if you're, if you're speaking to dead list, if you're, if you've altered your grill,

I'm always going to assume that there's something awry in the old bank account maybe i shouldn't have gone over that because i always think like anybody that's involved with a sitcom or music and the royalties after that like what's his royalty situation i'm going to change my mind i'm going to go under i'm going to go under yeah i'll go i'll take the under i'll take the under now could he make that what does he is he a saver is he a spender you know is he always ordering i don't know yeah yeah he might be does he search out the book and be like hey ned's booksellers has the same thing we can't leave out the fact okay we can't we can't leave out the fact that he's muscle

bound either that's what i'm saying right okay all right strangely muscle bound like my man was on steroids for a little bit there he was he was on some shit no question it's cost money yeah the good stuff you know when i was down in cabo it was like are you serious i'm supposed to walk into one of these places there's just a picture when you're in cabo bro you can go in and yeah. Hey, like need some, uh, need some morphine.

It's right here on the wall in pill form, right next to the ibuprofen. That's scary stuff right there. Okay. Um, future. And here's a review of future from one of these Russian celebrity net worth. I'm convinced they're all Russians.

Here's the quote. Future uses auto autotune extensively both in his songs and raps. Many popular magazines acknowledge this fact and yet loves the creativity that the star brings in using the latest tools. Despite his work, some artists even criticize Future's work.

As far as sources are concerned, rapper T-Pain slammed Future of using the autotune to which there was an ugly spat between the two rappers. Oh, by the way, Future's music comes closest to conjuring the numbing overstimulation of our times. I'm setting the over under at 40 million. I'm going to take the over. I'm a big fan of Future's work.

I love Future. I'm actually trying to figure out what my favorite song is by Future. I don't want to sound too white. Let's just take the over and move on. Yeah, we both agree. Now, I think there's always a little concern about future earnings. Yeah, no pun intended. But there's no doubt when you're probably one of the most popular guys

going in the game right now, I don't think $40 million is a hard number for him to eclipse. There's no way because there's no way. I think that's too low. Celebrity net worth was low on that. By the way, T-Pain, still bringing it. Saw him at Bonnaroo. Really good act, man.

Never thought that that was something that would age well. Still going with a hat? But he's still... Huh? Is he still going with a hat? I don't remember. You don't. Speaking of hats, though, because I feel like you're real close to wanting to pull off another tier of hat that you'd like to wear to a festival, but you're afraid of doing it. So you kind of do these entry-level, kind of like Panama Jack deals. And I think there's another hat thing. Yeah. There's another hat that you want to get to. You know what I'm thinking of having, if I ended up moving instead

of have a, have a swarming party, which is always going to be tough for me because no one in LA goes anywhere, but I'd like to do a theme dress up party and have everybody dress up as LA D bags. And have everybody dress up as LAD bags. And I really missed my window a weekend ago to do that at a fancy party that I was at. And I go, you know what? You should have, instead of just going hoodie and joggers like you always do. And I sat and watched the Baylor game and didn't talk to anybody. I've got to go. I think I'm going to go tactical mesh vest and just like hillsong cowboy hat hillsong cowboy hat tactical

vest and like whatever just you know ripped up jeans some tokyo company i love it bro i i love the concept of the party and yeah for me if you do if you do want to allow me to come because that might be the the party that i can actually pull off some of the looks i've been trying to pull off that's what i'm saying too yeah like you know i've been if i've been afraid to cross like i've always been a bolo tie guy like i do have a number of bolo ties that are some of them are so nice that i actually like i'm afraid to wear them like i have a nice little bolo collection i go to a place in montana to get them every summer no that's nice and then i never have reasons to wear them and whenever i'm at that shop they have a lot of really cool like turquoise jewelry that dudes wear like if they're like i don't know where these dudes are that wear this

shit they're all like dudes in the black crows there's no like there's no way anybody that's not a musician or living in like hipsterville can pull it off but they look kind of cool some of these turquoise bracelets and shit i just i'm not gonna do it true but you know but you could not pull off turquoise i'd have a better shot than you for sure oh bald muscle-bound guy with with turquoise not it's not the it's not the look so are you trying to tell me that D'Angelo, Jeremiatris Vickers, whose passions were the American Southwest, Will Ferrell's character on The Office?

That's the stuff about Will Ferrell that I always think is like next level funny. And I know some people don't appreciate it the way I do, and that's fine. We all have different tastes. But when Will Ferrell's trying to figure out what his office character's going to be, in two of the things that are immediate,

he's like, well, one of my passions is the American Southwest, and everything is turquoise, like turquoise accessories all over. And he had to have told the office people and the writers, a thing that we should add to this is that I'm just going to be wearing a ton of turquoise. That was an important detail. It was like homeboy his his character in eastbound and down which is remains to be one of the i mean that season's one of the best actually shafer shay for bmw ashley shafer that fucking hair dude the hair that his wife beverly it was all

rick flair and then it's donna i'm thrusting down on Donna. Let the boy watch. That back and forth with he and Danny McBride. Apocalypto! No, seriously. That is like Marlon Brando Stella type of stuff. Where he and Danny McBride is like, Ashley, that's a girl's name. I love girls. Thank you very much. I see that as

a compliment. I take that as a compliment. Ashley is a girl's nameakes the outtakes from that season if you haven't watched them you need to go watch my we gave you nick cage last week this is probably more traffic but watch the outtakes from eastbound and down that seat watching craig try to keep a straight face between ashley and danny in the uh i'm calling it between will and danny in the in the car dealership. I sell fucking Kias. It's the best character, supporting character in TV history, bro.

And apparently McBride, like Farrell, when he's doing his thing, makes me laugh in a way that's not motivated by anything else other than just looking at him. And McBride apparently does that for Farrell, which is the story. And then you just watch mcbride and was like i just can't stop and the mcbride thing when he's a substitute teacher and van pelt and i used to have that drop all the time where he's like and what people don't know is these guys they ruled the kingdoms with magic and these dudes are wizards and if you find that clip on youtube and mcbride talking to this classroom making up a history

lesson it's it's just i don't know and look and some people like it and some people just go this isn't even that funny and that's why we're all different so there you go hey if it's not for you it's not for you uh do you know where danny's from he's from uh i thought he was from one of the carolinas right north carolina fredericksburg virginia little town 40 miles from me yeah all right comes back for the virginia film festival in charlottesville virginia a lot sounds like never seen a chalk guest yeah maybe we'd love to have him fishbowl okay you got one for me we got we got three more yeah i'll go i'll go less stroud um survivor man one of my favorite people if you're listening less can we hang out um he was the self-camera guy he was like the guy that was like whatever bear grills in your production team like

i'm here solo with a with a handy cam sony 8-bit yeah he he was like the indie film version of bear grills like bear grills was the big the big Hollywood blockbuster movie where you're like, it's a fucking 40-foot wall. Let me just jump down it real quick. Like, no one would do that in a surviving situation. Yeah, and the whole French Foreign Legion thing,

what is that? I'd love to check that out because all I ever know about the French Foreign Legion, which is nothing, growing up was like, where you just sweat. If you were in Europe

and shit just wasn't working out, you'd join the French Foreign Legion. And and apparently they're kind of badasses or they aren't or where are they in comparison to special forces guys in the u.s but i always had this weird say uh yeah i don't know but i've always had this weird affinity like if i was ended up in the south of france and things went wrong i'd be like well i guess i just joined the french foreign legion now we go to africa and post up that all could be made um can't be that hard and and the thing about stroud is of course he's not only and i like bear grills but this guy's the indie film version he's he's more legit his net worth here is set at five five um i i don't know

if i'm gonna take the over and under but i'll tell you that for him, probably like 1.5 mil is enough to live like a King for the rest of his life. My man does not need creature comforts. I can't imagine him having expensive tastes. Like what kind of car do you think homeboy drives? Uh, Subaru Forester is what he drives. Subaru Forester. There's no way he doesn't drive a Subaru Forester. You don't remember the he doesn't drive a Subaru Forester you don't remember the Renault Encore you don't remember that one no no oh no I wasn't alive then true okay all right I got one more for you the ShamWow guy ShamWow yeah let me google him real quick I'm trying to remember what he looks like Vince schlomi is he in jail well his future net

worth has gone down um i know he did oh boy yeah he's aggressive looking no he just looks aggressive what's going on with the hair it's like he's gonna look it's like he's gonna look he sold the slap chop the sham wow thing remember he Remember, he's like, you're going to love my nuts. That was his go-to line. I love that it says that he's a professional comedian, actor, film director, and screenwriter. Yes, I know he got into trouble years ago for something. I have no idea what happened other than the charger dropped. I don't know. He's got the, it's like this stegosaurus thing going on with his hair. It's like what, it's like kind of a Mohawk, kind of not a Mohawk at all. It's like you just made your hair a Mohawk for no reason other than to shoot an infomercial. He actually wrote and starred in this movie. The New York Post review said, quote, maybe the least amusing comedy ever made. No. said quote maybe the least amusing comedy ever made no was it hey was it a dry was it a dry comedy ryan i don't know it sounds like it was just kind of gross um and so vince um tall guy

don't know his current situation it says his net worth is at two mil oh i'm taking the under i don't know not adjusted for lawyer fees seems like a guy with a lot of alimony i don't we don't know if that's true or not we don't know it's all speculation in this segment a lot of it a lot of it reckless i'll go under as well but the the girls that would hook up with you because you're on a sham wow commercial are probably their crossover on the venn diagram of women they're trying to take advantage of you it's pretty or chicks you don't want to be with is probably pretty high and i think that he he had probably a you know he probably had his party years and now he's on the back end i'm taking i'm gonna stop you there because one of them is pretty bad he was like arrested for assault

so okay well i didn't know it was kind of like when you read that entire book about the rockefeller I'm going to stop you there because one of them is pretty bad. He was like arrested for assault. Okay. Well, I didn't know. It was kind of like when you read that entire book about the Rockefeller guy and you were like, this guy's awesome. I'm like, well, if you read here on his Wikipedia, he was basically the most awful person alive. I didn't say Big Bill was awesome. I said he was a real scoundrel, but we hadn't gotten to the part later on about Big Bill Rockefeller. That's the problem.

Well, ShamWow sounds like a fucking scoundrel okay sounds good you got one more for me yeah i had vin diesel uh the google machine has 200 million i'm gonna go over yeah i think it's over i think whenever you're doing stuff that continues to be the creative stuff that continues to be fee related, royalties, all this stuff. Although he has a really particular way about him. He wouldn't do movies unless his name were in it. The movie has to be named after the character that he plays in the movie. That's why it's Riddick. That's why it's Triple X.

That's why he's not in the second Fast and the Furious because he wanted to be. Well, why was he in the first one? Because at that point, he didn't blow up enough. So some of of me i always kind of wonder like i know i brought this up before but you go just asshole insufferable asshole route in life or do you go hey we're all trying to get by in society here and at some point vin diesel just said hey these are the rules if you want to be in vin diesel you know the vin diesel business and I guess it worked out like being in the Dak Prescott business yeah but I don't think Dak is as difficult I know I'm just saying these dudes know they're worth fucking Vin Diesel knows his worth Dak knows his worth

they're both gonna be worth a couple hundred mil how many times you see triple x never the only movie I want bro I saw Riddick when I was younger. I think I saw Triple X when I was younger. I remember there was a movie about pyramids and... Is it Scorpion King? No, that's The Rock. That's The Rock, yeah. Wait a minute. Did you hear nephew Kyle just aghast in the background about not seeing Triple X? Kyle, you want to jump in here? in the background about not seeing triple x kyle you want to jump in here i mean i said it all man it wasn't a lot to watch i thought triple x was watchable for everybody you liked it was it i liked it well i'm looking at his filmography here his imdb and the only movie that i legitimately could tell you loosely what's happening in the movie is the fast and the furious movies because i know it's about cars but i had no idea he wasn't in all of them

and what's the redeeming factor in the movie about cars they're fast dude that's what i hear and furious fucking cars are angry bro there's some good fast and furious things like tokyo drift is is a great movie it's a great soundtrack and um you know the ncis version of paul walker isn't everybody's favorite um but you know look quarter mile at a time that's kind of the way you're doing it i just remember running into lewis one day at espn and we're like stop freaking out it's not about you it's pat it's uh uh here's the movie i was thinking of pitch black it's not necessarily in the desert but is that he was on was he in saving private ryan he isn't saving private ryan he gets whacked early i just watched

it after reading the normandy book it's what the fuck was his argument there he hadn't blown up yet because you don't get to come on a tom Hanks set and tell him what the fuck. No, I don't think Spielberg was like, oh, we're going to call it Saving Private Ryan. That's the script. It's kind of the shot here. We're going to be Normandy. Yeah, we're going to need this to be Saving Private Ryan. He's like, I want it to be Diesel Beach.

You just call it Diesel Beach. Fuck. What if it were called diesel beach saves private ryan wreck it ralph he was in wrecking ralph was he not ralph breaks the internet okay maybe maybe he's dialed it back then later on i don't i don't know i I think he liked the money and that's why he's north of 200M. The royalties on, I guarantee you, and no offense to people that like that movie, but the DVD buying crowd is probably also the Fast and Furious crowd. So he's getting mad royalties. Love it. What a great way to end it. Check out media the youtube channel with chris and his great

interviews he is great at this he does it in a way uh really i think it's unlike most anyone that's doing it and i guess that'll be that'll be i do it in front of an audience of zero don't say that so just like everybody else does you guys you guys need to drive viewers to my site keep this thing alive just joking it's going great we'd love for you guys to come check out fishbowl and green light so appreciate it you need to learn how you say hey two million people watch my video on facebook and then i got a deal out of it and it's like did two million people watch it or do they scroll past it because it was auto-feeded in and we x'd out of it immediately and then facebook bumped up everybody's numbers and then people got jobs because of that. Pet peeve? Yeah. Yeah. No, seriously. I remember one guy

worked who was like, oh yeah, 2.8 million views on my Facebook show. We're like, what? And then bosses were like, that's incredible. It means that 2.8 people in the United States had something pop up on their feed that they had no interest in watching and X'd out of it, but it counted. So look, I could go on Facebook rants all day long. It messed up a lot of people's industries and cost people jobs and it's not cool. And that's why when somebody is doing something, you're like, okay, well, maybe you're just better off lying about it. So, all right, down or no, how about a positive? Thanksgiving, everybody have a happy Thanksgiving. A positive is my family's coming back for Thanksgiving. It's going to be awesome. I'm wishing you and your family that you mentioned earlier, all your children, a happy Thanksgiving

as well, Ryan. We're going to have a great time. The Brut, the Rosillo Brut over here is deep and strong. All right. Talk to you next week. Outro Music