The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Wild Tour Stories With DJ Whoo Kid | The Ryen Russillo Podcast

Episode Date: April 16, 2020

Russillo talks about the uncertainty surrounding when pro sports will return (1:40) before he is joined by legendary hip-hop DJ and producer DJ Whoo Kid to discuss coming up in Queens, New York, navig...ating the music industry at a young age, working with Russell Simmons, 50 Cent, G-Unit, Mobb Deep, Eminem, D12, Capone-N-Noreaga, and some incredible stories from the road (8:55). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I cannot wait as I tweeted out yesterday at Ryan and your solo I can't wait for today's podcast a really really long conversation with DJ who kid who kid goes all the way back to the start of 50 cent and then g unitUnit and then Eminem. I mean, he goes back beyond that when he was just DJing and doing all sorts of stuff. He's going to tell an hour's worth plus of stories. They're going to be amazing. I really think this is probably one of the best podcasts I've ever done.
Starting point is 00:00:37 So that's how excited I am about this. So today's episode of the Ryan Russillo Podcast and the Ringer Podcast Network is brought to you by State Farm. Honestly, I don't do a lot. Who Kid's the one who talks the whole time? So he's terrific. Just like sports, the game of life is unpredictable. Talk to a State Farm agent and get a teammate who can help you navigate the unexpected. People just wanting doomsday scenarios for every single sporting event.
Starting point is 00:00:59 I just, I don't think you're going to get your way on this one. So that may be unexpected to you. I just, the outdoing of every soundbite of no, you know, man, we might not have anything until 2028. Okay, fine. Talk to me when we're all watching NBA games this summer, because I honestly think, you know, there's going to be versions of this that are very, very different, but that's kind of always what I expected. I was watching some stuff today on college football where everybody seems to be losing their minds on that one. But I don't know. I think watching some stuff today on college football where everybody seems to be losing their minds on that one.
Starting point is 00:01:26 But I don't know. I think they're going to try to find a way to bring in the TV money, which is what I always said. Talk to a teammate who can help you navigate the unexpected.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Talk to a State Farm agent today. Before we get to Who Kid, I want to spend a few minutes on, you know, more stuff that we're going through here. And that is different leagues and what their start-up date is. I mentioned on Sunday's pod with Bill Simmons,
Starting point is 00:01:52 Baxter Holmes, Peace, and ESPN.com, which is really thorough, really good quotes, front office people, GMs, and trainers, about what is realistic in trying to get this league started. So if the league were to start up at some point this summer, an abbreviated version, a quarantined location type of thing, all the different things that are being thrown out there as possibilities, how long would the players actually need? And when one trainer said 30 days at least, it made me think, okay, well, you are to the point
Starting point is 00:02:17 where you can't even be talked to because that means you want even longer and it's just not going to happen. Yes, the athlete is a finely-tuned body. Yes, an athlete, especially somebody who's a little bit older like LeBron, talking about peaking at the right time, fine-tuning this whole thing. I do believe in this stuff. I do believe in the technique and getting ready. But I also think that enough guys as athletes can kind of just also, you know, play a little slower than they normally would for a couple weeks
Starting point is 00:02:40 and work themselves slowly into game shape. None of this is ideal. But if we have it on and we think guys are turning the ball over a little bit too much or don't have great touch around the rim on some finishes because guys haven't been playing a lot like we're going to be okay with it because it's on and i'm not going to be sending out tweets being like oh these crit you know these screens these down screens not as crisp as i would like to see so i i feel like it's always kind of one of those human nature things where it's not necessarily like if you give somebody an excuse you're going to use it because that's what people do.
Starting point is 00:03:07 But this is more than that. It's a little bit of like, hey, instead of just accepting how challenging this whole thing is and how uncertain still is even if today, despite my positive thought that some version of this stuff is going to come back at some point, let's focus on what's negative and let's focus on how it's not going to look good and i just when i read that stuff i just go okay yeah no we're all on the same page here but what what's what's your point like what's your observation of this that guys are going to be a little out of shape okay fine guess what you're not getting 30 days and you're definitely not getting beyond 30 days to run you guys into shape which is still the funniest thing because none of the guys want
Starting point is 00:03:41 to even play in the preseason anyway they'd love to never practice and now the guys want to even play in the preseason anyway. They'd love to never practice, and now actually guys want to practice. And then another thing. I've heard players say, and NBA players say, I haven't touched a ball in a month. That's on you. All right? A lot of the younger players live in buildings in all 30 NBA cities, even rural somewhat cities.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Look, I mean, that sounds like not the greatest description, but you'd understand this. There are of these NBA cities, some cities are just not cities. Like Salt Lake City is a city, but it doesn't feel like a city when you're there in comparison to other NBA cities. If you can't find a parking lot to dribble in, if you're an NBA player who can't actually find a hoop, think about a guy being in a major city. New York's a little tougher,
Starting point is 00:04:26 but I'm just not going to have a ton of sympathy for the guy that says, I just wasn't even able to touch a basketball this whole time because I live in an apartment building. There's nothing against grabbing a basketball and going outside and dribbling in an empty parking lot. I know that sounds ridiculous. I know it sounds stupid.
Starting point is 00:04:45 It's like, wait a minute, what are we doing here? I'd imagine there are other guys that can find a way, whether it's shots up at home or in trying to extend the quarantine rules, shooting at the opposite ends of the gym. I mean, we're still all going to grocery stores. So a couple of guys shooting at a gym at separate hoops, I don't think is necessarily anti-flattening the curve. So that that's the other part of it like baseball hey we need a month to get ready
Starting point is 00:05:10 pitchers need time to stretch out their arms but the chances are pitchers live in the same cities right now with other teammates that also own baseball gloves where they could probably find a parking lot or any kind of field that's open and not closed off and they're not even close to each other my never never mind anybody else where they could probably long toss and build up a little bit of arm strength. Yes, the bullpen sessions would not be the same with monitoring and all that kind of stuff, but people actually did throw baseballs in the olden days and build up their arm strength without all the video simulation and body mechanical breakdown stuff where you could do some work on your own. And that's my point, is you can still, despite all of this,
Starting point is 00:05:48 find a way to do some kind of work on your own instead of, well, you know, can't do anything about it. I'd asked the team about the thing I brought up on Sunday saying, is there any way to, you know, maybe open up these facilities, have a video coordinator, unlock the door, have hour shifts where it's each player by themselves. You wouldn't even need to do that. You could have multiple players at different hoops.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Their facilities are not just one court. There are multiple baskets in all of these facilities. And then it's like, okay, but the problem is if, say, the New York clubs can't do it, but Milwaukee could, the competitive advantage-disad disadvantage thing, the NBA is not going to allow one team to go ahead and do that kind of stuff. I would still think if you worked for one of these teams, you just would say, hey, do you guys want to get some shots up at some
Starting point is 00:06:35 point today? Even if in theory, the practice facilities are closed down a little bit. So I don't know, maybe some of you guys disagree. If your counter is, hey, we're talking about the safety of people, if we're talking about quarantine, then we're really not going to have any kind of conversation. I, I deal in the reality neighborhood where if, if you are a pro athlete and you can't figure out any way to get your hands on a ball, I don't, I don't know, man, I just, there's no way, there's no way I could ever understand thinking that way. Even if you lived in a apartment building, even if you lived in a dense, dense city, I would go for a road trip an hour outside of the city and find a place where I could go dribble and just run up and down a court,
Starting point is 00:07:18 even if the rims are locked and there's no one around. I would not come to Manhattan Beach to find a hoop because there are none. And then one more thing on the baseball deal where it's like, okay, if baseball starts up and it's centralized, it's just Arizona. Okay. Well, I don't want to be away from my family. Yes. Understood. Okay. I get that, that if you have a family, even with me not having one, that's not something you'd, you'd want to do. You're away a lot, but you already are kind of away a lot. And a lot of you guys go on road trips where you're away from your family already for two weeks at a time. So you know what my family would love, even though they may miss me and I may miss them and have some of those moments where all of a sudden everybody's captain family,
Starting point is 00:07:56 my family would really like if I made 20 million this year as opposed to zero, because that could also do something for my family. And if you're saying, wait a minute, 20 million, that's not what everybody makes. You know what my family would also like? For me to make 500,000 instead of zero. So we can talk about the family dynamic and it's nice to have dinner. Most of these guys aren't having dinner
Starting point is 00:08:16 with their families every night in a normal season. So if there's some other abbreviated version where it's all located, where all the teams are in a centralized area and it's a little bit more strenuous on the family dynamic, I have a level of sympathy for you, but not a dramatic level of sympathy where I go, you still have an opportunity to work and make a very, very substantial living and provide for this family. Because most families that I can think of on the lower end would be like, you know what would suck is to not make zero money for the next year. So there you go. All right. Let's talk with Who Kid. I can't wait for this. Okay. You know him from Shade 45, 50 Cent, G-Unit, Hooliwood Shuffle. He's a guy I've hung out a couple times.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Everybody likes him. I don't know. It seems like you get yourself in a trouble who kid, but everybody always ends up liking you. And we go back over the start of this. So let's start where it all started because in interviews,
Starting point is 00:09:17 it's unbelievable in this neighborhood. You grew up in Queens and all these people that are around. So what was that like? These guys that you were neighborhood people and now are world famous and they were all in this really small part of New York City. Yeah, it's kind of weird where I was from. I was raised in Queens Village.
Starting point is 00:09:39 So it's like a trilateral. So Hollis Avenue was here. Springfield was here. And Linden was like a trilateral. So Hollis Avenue was here. Springfield was here. And Linden was like, it was like a triangle. So it's weird. Where I lived, I lived in the middle. So my neighbor was like DJ Clue, Envy. Envy lived across the street from Clue.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And then to the right on Hollis was Jam Master J, Run DMC. They all lived on Hollis was a Jam Master Jay. You know, Run DMC, they all lived on Hollis. And then further ahead to Linden was L Cool J. But the thing that's so weird, there was a park called 34 Park. PS 34 is like an elementary school. But PS 34 is where if you ever wanted to catch Russell Simmons doing drugs or heroin, he would be at the chess table. He's there hanging with
Starting point is 00:10:30 the homies and they're doing heroin, chilling. LQJ would come down, the skinny L would come and play basketball with the crew. But I think the reason he worked out is because in those days, I don't know, maybe they tried to fuck with him and shit like that because he was so skinny.
Starting point is 00:10:45 So then he worked out. That's why he's so buffed up. You know what I'm saying? And then, of course, my fucking block, 111th Road, was serious because I had e-money bags. I had a tall stretch. And e-money bags was like the street gangster. Like, he caused so much war amongst like the drug dealers which is kind of like interconnected with 50 cent you know these other guys but tall stretch he was a producer he was part of the live squad but he had the early tupac like i think once he quit uh digital underground
Starting point is 00:11:18 tupac was beginning to be a gangster so he used to come on my block. He used to like, I used to like, like literally like sit in front of my house and then I see Tupac and Tall Stretch walking by with a 40 ounce and Chinese food. It was like clockwork every day. 40 ounce Chinese food, 40 ounce Chinese food. So I don't know what I did one day. My father was whipping me in my backyard.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I don't know what I did. I don't know what the fuck my father, you know, Caribbean parents whip the shit out of you and shit. tall stretch and tupac just stopped and just like watched my father with me for like 10 minutes and then usually caribbean parents make you kneel like in you know in the backyard in the sun and you and then i had to scream like i'm sorry poppy which is i'd say pardon poppy which is is like, I'm sorry, Poppy, like, until he tells me to get the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:12:06 So I'm screaming pardon, Poppy, and Tupac and Tall Stretch is just laughing at me. Holy shit, you got whipped the fuck out of. And guess what? They got their Chinese food and their 40 ounce, and they're just like, just like laughing at me eating and watching me scream pardon, Poppy. And that's the only connection I have with Tupac. I never met him after, musically. I never got his music.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I never got in the studio. But that's how crazy that this neighborhood, which is now called Shadyville because of me, but back then, it was just too much shit going on. It was too hip-hopped out. 50 Cent would come on my block, beat up a drug dealer that owed him money. And he used to be called Boo Boo.
Starting point is 00:12:48 So he'll come on his little fucking... He had, like, a baby ninja. So he's, like, 300 pounds on a baby ninja. You know how small a baby ninja is? That's a tiny-ass motorcycle. But he'll come, and they'll be like, oh, shit, Boo Boo's coming. And he'll fuck everybody up that owe him money. So imagine, like, you're a kid,
Starting point is 00:13:04 like, just sitting in front of your house, watering money so imagine like you're a kid like the sitting in front of your house watering the grass and you just see like like the early 50 cent who was called boo-boo beating up drug dealers and we have no connection i never used to talk to him i never used to like say what's up and you're a teenager right you're like 15 maybe or are you like later times i was i was i was like i think i was like 17 17 like i was in high school how how the hell was 50 cent 300 pounds was he fat is that why he works out all the time man they called him his nickname was boo-boo he was a bully so his name was boo-boo so he was fat he was like a big guy so but he was like uh you know he was kind of like like like uh what was that guy from um yeah like a tebow kind of guy
Starting point is 00:13:52 he'll come in and so imagine like you're sitting there you're watching him beat somebody up and then literally like maybe 10 or 15 years later you're on stage in front of 100,000 people with this guy that's how weird our fate is. Like, I have no connection, no communication, but he's literally, like, across the street from me beating up some guy with drug money. And then, literally, 15 years later, we're on stage with fucking Eminem and fucking Dr. Dre.
Starting point is 00:14:21 This is fucking, like, and I'm in Africa. I've been fucking, like, you know, like we're in Israel, like 30,000 people. Like, can you imagine, like, shit like this don't even make no kind of sense. But that's how crazy where I was from. This little trilateral area, it was just, it popped out. Steve Stout lived to the left. And, you know, Biggie used to come on the block, too, to get beats from Tall Stretch. Nas used to come on the block, to get beats from tall stretch naz just come on the block and we eat money bags get you know nori from iraq used to come down so
Starting point is 00:14:50 it was like very like hip-hopped out so you decide all right i want i want in and i know that you know the mixtape thing is is so competitive i mean it's just i don't even know that that kids outside of that, that culture even understand it. I know that I have my own limitations, but like, how did you decide, okay, this is what I'm doing. And I know that your story's kind of funny and that you just kept kind of faking it and lying about it until it just actually became real. It was almost like you were lying about the things that were going to happen anyway. Yeah. Like back then we had like little recorders, like those cheesy recorders from
Starting point is 00:15:26 radio shack and i used to get drops from people they sound like shit but at the end of the day like you have to use your opportunity and you know it's an opportunity it's like if you see noriega in front of you or you see biggie you see you gotta like pray to god they do a drop and i used to do that with pun and but but I did with people that was easily accessible because business-wise I saw that the DJs were not dealing with like um you know like like Hype Williams or or or or Spike Lee like these guys were easily like accessible like Russell Simmons and I would get like like like the industry to host my tapes like Chris Lighty I started with that first because if you're close to like the people to host my tapes like chris leidy i started with that first because if
Starting point is 00:16:06 you're close to like the people that's making money like lero cohen and you know you know like steve rifkin you get these guys to host your i don't know it's kind of like a a corporate it's like it's like you're going to a corporate party or some like you know and people respect it more because how the hell you get like fucking Chris Lighty who managed like every fucking big artist from Missy Elliott to Busta Rhymes to like, you know, to eventually 50 Cent, like to host your tape. That's how I got Busta Rhymes to host my first tape because he managed Busta when he was big at that time when he had like Janet Jackson in a video. So I actually went to the video shoot while he was doing all that high-end fucking, I think it was like state-of-the-art Matrix-style video shoot with Janet Jackson. And that's where I got my first drops
Starting point is 00:16:53 from Busta Rhymes. And then after that, it opened my eyes because I felt like more interaction with the actual artists talking and going on and shit. And the shit sounded like shit. Like, you know, a shitty- ass Radio Shack, Sam Ash bullshit. It's not like crap, but people didn't mind because it's really Busta Rhymes, like doing the intro in between.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And then it led to like sports stars. I kind of like went through all the rappers after a while where I was like, yo, let me just get like sports stars to get involved. So thank God that I linked up with 50 Cent, and then we started touring. And that's how I kidnapped fucking Floyd Mayweather before he was big. I have mixtapes. I got bloopers with almost every NBA star from that era hosting shit, from Donald Trump hosting shit.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Then I went to the stars. Once I got on SiriusXM, then I got movie stars to host my shit because some DJs was trying to copy the hosting stuff, like getting people to hype. But, you know, like Charlie Murphy and a lot of people that passed away hosted a lot of our tapes.
Starting point is 00:17:58 You know what I'm saying? But it was a way, like, there was no social media back then. So I used their popularity or wherever they were at to promote my tape. So if Floyd Mayweather had a big fight and he's all over like, you know, TV promotions, fucking Masswear Garden or whatever, because he's everywhere on TV, everybody's like part of the algorithm. Everybody's on his dick. So what I would do is if you see that there's a tape with Floyd Mayweather
Starting point is 00:18:26 hosting it, it's part of the algorithm at that time. Cause there was no, all we had was barely YouTube and it was no Twitter, no, no Instagram, nothing. So I've used Floyd Mayweather's popularity to fucking promote my tape.
Starting point is 00:18:39 And he didn't even know that he hosted it. Talking shit. Yeah. I'm the best. Who can drop that shit? At the same time, him fucking somebody up, if he won that fight, that's more tapes on itself. It was weird.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I was like, I used to be like, Yeah, but it makes sense. Yeah. Honestly, it's more creative than tagging somebody or having them retweet you, but it's kind of in the same family. A lot of DJs never thought about it like that. Mike kind of in the same family a lot of people never thought about it like that you know mike tyson like you get mike tyson to host his shit he just knocks
Starting point is 00:19:09 out fucking buster douglas he knocks out this guy not every time i would knock people out people more tapes like stores keep calling me we need more of that mike tyson mixed tape that he's hosting like they don't even care about the music anymore because it's just from visually, you walk in a store and you just can't believe it. There's a fucking Donald Trump posting a tape. At that time, he was like, everybody was on his dick because of his money. He had the fucking apprenticeship, blah, blah, blah. Everybody wanted to be Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:19:40 There was not no black people that wasn't sweating Donald Trump back in the days. I didn't think he would be president, but back then, everybody was on his dick. So for me to get him to host it, he already was charging, like, you know, when he first came, he was like, you know, I charge a million dollars just for an interview. I charge, like, $100,000
Starting point is 00:19:58 for drops. I was like, what? Get the fuck out of here, yo. I was like, I'll give you an IOU, motherfucker. Get the fuck out of here. But he wanted to be on my radio show because of his kids. His kids was like fans of G-Dragon Radio. So that's the only reason that it was a great barter system. And I did The Apprentice. I did a couple episodes, too. But it was a good barter system. But the fact that, you know, what would you go to see? Donald Trump hosting a street-level, like, bootleg. That shit was, like, in China. That shit. I went to somewhere in Kazakhstan to, like, one of them flea markets. And they had, like, a mixtape African guy.
Starting point is 00:20:37 He was like, yeah, I got Donald Trump right here hosting. This is you. This is you. And he couldn't believe that it was me. He couldn't believe that it was me. But the interconnection is ridiculous where you have every culture bootleg system bootlegging
Starting point is 00:20:50 your shit. No fucking Twitter, no Instagram. I got Irish Mob. I got fucking the Chinese. I used to sell that shit to fucking what's that shit? Tower Records. I used to make my own invoices. And I got a little smarter. I used to make my own invoices. And that's when I went,
Starting point is 00:21:06 and then I got a little smarter. I went to the labels that I was robbing the music from and leaking and bootlegging. I went to their distribution department and I stole their whole distribution list. So I had like, like for Sony, I had like 6,000 stores that they had.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I just had like my girl or some homies just call every store and then we just created like there was no rules back then there was no ceasing this is there was no so let me let me stay on that then because you're doing this thing you're leaking it out everybody's losing their minds and it becomes this kind of game that you guys have but you i know puffy came at you because of the biggie leak but were you actually still prior to that pretending to be his DJ and doing interviews? How did that come together
Starting point is 00:21:50 where people thought you were Puffy's DJ and you were just like, yeah, whatever, let's do it, and you started doing interviews? Well, the Puffy DJ thing was before I leaked the Biggie song. Right, right. He had the Bad Boy mixtape, so like I said,
Starting point is 00:22:06 I busted my ass to get near everybody that had energy or any kind of like mixtape movement. He actually had a great legendary mixtape situation because he got Biggie. He got like six other artists from his label that popped off
Starting point is 00:22:21 from the Bad Boy mixtape. So I was like, yo, let me host, you know, the next Bad Boy mixtape so i was like yo let me host you know the next bad boy mixtape or and then i got him to host mine at the same time so once he did that intro like dj who kid bad boy collaboration that was it that was enough for me to say that yo i'm his dj because he i have the vocal of him actually saying that. Stupid places, I'm not going to say Canada is stupid, but stupid places like Canada, like Much Music and those idiots over
Starting point is 00:22:50 there, they're a print. They're like a print kind of regulated situation. You can send a print and actual audio and they believe anything. So I sent them the whole fucking what I've done. I got the mixtape.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And they thought that it was the album. They thought it was new music with Puff Daddy. But it's just Puff Daddy hosting my tape. So what I did is I called the promoter in Canada. And I was like, let's just do a Bad Boy tour. And at that time, how would anybody know? There's no Instagram.
Starting point is 00:23:22 There's no way to tweet who is lying. He's over here in Regina, Torrey, or Calgary. I did eight cities. When I went to Toronto, I didn't much music. But when I went to much music, I spiced it up
Starting point is 00:23:37 even iller because I went and bought a Sean Jones suit in New York before I even got there. So I had the whole mafia, mobster, Sean Jones suits in New York before I even got there. So I had the whole, you know, those mafia, mobster fucking Sean Jones suits. And I came in and people were like,
Starting point is 00:23:50 ooh, Pop Daddy's DJ, who can? And all the kids, you know, you have those stupid little kids in the crowd, yay!
Starting point is 00:23:58 Like, okay, I was like, these fucking idiots. I did a full interview and out of everybody that caught me, it was Parv Pierre.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Parv Pierre had some kind of like, you know, back then the cable system was so expensive back then to have certain channels. So he had every channel. He's obviously Puff Daddy's manager. So he had like every channel. He just happened to flick through the channel and caught much music the same day I was on it. And he was just like shaking his head like, this motherfucker who kidding is crazy, man. But the only reason I think he didn't kill me
Starting point is 00:24:30 is because he's Haitian and I'm Haitian. So he was like, I'm going to let him live with that. But when I came back to the States, he came up to me. He was like, yeah, I saw you on that much music shit. But I was like, I don't know. I was like, oh shit, get the fuck out of here. It was a joke. Everywhere I would go, I don't know. I was like, oh shit, get the fuck out of here. It was a joke. Everywhere I would go,
Starting point is 00:24:47 I'll never forget some club in Calgary. I don't even know if it's still open. It was like 6,000 kids and they had like a balcony. So the prom was like, just go to the balcony
Starting point is 00:24:56 and stand on a balcony. It will shine like there's a movie light on you and then we'll announce you. And I just went to the balcony and they shine like this big ass light and I put my hands up.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I'm like, pop daddy's DJ. I was like, yeah. Like, it was like, yeah. Like,
Starting point is 00:25:09 it was like a fucking joke, man. It was like fucking easy, man. It was like a joke. Now the lies need to link up with Russell Simmons. That's next on my level. Like once I got to Russell Simmons,
Starting point is 00:25:20 it was over. So how did the Russell Simmons thing happen then? Cause of that? I mean, well, you know, there was a thing called Kinko's back then. So Kinko's, I would go to Kinko's and print like fake tour flyers. Like I would be like, yeah, I got this. You know, I was dating a Japanese chick, you know, at that time, which I married eventually.
Starting point is 00:25:39 But I called her. I was like, give me some club names or famous clubs in Japan. So what she would do is she would hit me with all the names and locations and I would make fake flyers at Kinko's. I would produce a fake tour and then I would submit it to all
Starting point is 00:25:55 the labels so I could get free wax because back then we had records and shit. So she was mad expensive. So for some reason my flyer got to russell simmons at dev jam because he i think he had to approve like a lot of the wax to go out because it was an expensive like situation to give away to every dj and i just give it to every dj but russell simmons like who the fuck is this dj from queens that's always in like Asia. He just finished like a whole Japanese run.
Starting point is 00:26:27 And then the funny thing is at that time, Chris Lighty, Chris Lighty was the assistant of Russell. So I got cool with him because he's the one that gave Russell Simmons the flyer. So Russell was like, get this motherfucker in here. He's from Queens too.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Where's he from? Well, he's like near Hollis and it's pretty like Hollis get this motherfucker in here. He's from Queens, too? Where's he from? Well, he's near Hollis. And Spring's like, Hollis? Get him in here. So I already knew the certain words that would get Russell Simmons kind of like, yo, who the fuck is this guy? I got in there. I was like, yeah, I got this big-ass tour.
Starting point is 00:26:57 And I don't know. They just love me out there. He was like, what? You from Queens? So after that, he put me on Chris Lighty's little brother, Mike Lighty. So Mike Lighty was in charge of giving the wax. But once I got cool with that little section right there, then it was over. I just kept getting free shit.
Starting point is 00:27:16 And I just kept going to Kinko's, printing out flyers, printing out shit. I did it everywhere. But Russell Simmons was like the cake because once he approved me then everybody fell in line because dev jam was at the top of the tier of like hip-hop okay so let's go back how does 50 cent transition from the almost this omar wire character where he's beating up drug dealers he weighs 300 pounds he's got his little like how does he's boo-boo yeah right so how does how does he go from boo-boo to, because I remember when that first thing came out, you know, again, this is me just getting out of college. I was living in Boston and we're like, wait a minute, like, this is different.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Like his whole cadence, everything was just so different. And now you're hooked up with this guy from the neighborhood, but like you're, you're part of G unit, you're part of his crew. So how does that all happen? Well, he got shot up and they tried to kill him. So at that time, my cousin, Sean Money XL, was managing him. So once he got well and he's recuperating, they wanted to get into, like, promotional, back into the game. So they came up with an idea to put, like,
Starting point is 00:28:24 because I was doing mixtapes anyway i was leaking everybody's shit bootlegging but shaw money was like yo we want to start like a a new style of mixtape but we're gonna steal everybody's instrumental and 50 is gonna do it over but before you even go over there 50 wants to meet you because we're gonna need a dj to do these hoods with these little hood running we got to do so i was like what to need a dj to do these hoods this little hood running we got to do so i was like what he said yeah you got to be the dj because we're not hiring or we're not interviewing people because they just tried to kill him so who tried to kill him who tried to kill him we don't even know until this day it's like you know some of them hip-hop mysteries or
Starting point is 00:29:02 whatever they don't want i mean he probably knows who tried to kill him or whatever. But at the end of the day, it's like that Tupac Vicky bullshit, you know, like they try to, I think he got shot like nine times or whatever. And then he supposedly, nobody knows who tried to kill him. But now he's at a crossroads of like, yo, I can't hire nobody. Whoever is going to come into our crew has to be related, like a blood relative, like has to be related.
Starting point is 00:29:30 So I was Sean Money's cousin. So Sean Money just called me. He knew I was a mixtape DJ bootleg, and he's like, yo, you're the DJ. But first, you got to go meet him. I was like, what? But he just got shot up because he got shot in his mouth. His teeth came out. He got shot in his hand. I was like, damn. I was like, I got to go meet this guy.
Starting point is 00:29:46 He might be walking dead. I don't know. He might look crazy. I don't really want to look at his face. So when I got there to Long Island in the basement, it's just like, there's a dirty van outside. Like a fucked up van. Because at that time, 50 had no money. So I had my Benz or whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:03 I think I had a Lexus. I had a Lexus convertible at that time. So I was bootlegging, making money. So it's funny because everybody that was there had money except 50. So when I went down there, I was preparing myself to see his face because I was like, Dan, the first thing I got to do is get past his face because he got shot in his face. So when I saw him, I was like, what? It just looked like a dimple.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I was like, man, it didn't even look that bad. Like, his teeth was, like, wired shut. And it looked like he had a dimple. It didn't even look like, I thought his shit was going to be really fucked up. So I was like, so that's the first thing I told him. I was like, oh, shit, yo, you look all right, yo. You look like a piece of shit, man. You good.
Starting point is 00:30:39 He was like, what? He started getting serious. And then that's when I first met Lloyd Banks and Tony Ayo. And they both looked like they were going to rob me. Because like I said, I was making money at that time. And they were like, you know, nobody was making money at that time. But in the basement was vests, guns everywhere. I mean, I never saw so many guns in my life.
Starting point is 00:30:58 So he was like, yo, who cares? I want to talk to you real quick. I'm going to ask you three questions. And then once you answer these questions, you know, we're going to hire you. I was like, a word? I was like, go ahead. He was like, yo, if some niggas come at me with some guns, like Uzis or whatever, what are you going to do? I was like, man, I don't know you. I'm out of here, yo. Get the fuck out of here. I'm out, yo. I don't know you. I'm out. Like, I'm running. He was like, what? So he starts laughing. He was like,
Starting point is 00:31:25 you're hired, though. You're hired, man, because I'm not even going to ask you the other two questions. You're hired. As long as I know who's around me and how I got to maneuver, if something does go down, I know that you're a pussy and you're out of here.
Starting point is 00:31:41 At least I can rely or grab whoever that... He just wants to know who's around him. Like he didn't want me. And he, he liked the fact that I was honest. Cause I didn't, I didn't tell him, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:50 I'm going to shoot people up and I'm going to jump in front of you. Or I'm going to lay everybody down. I wasn't talking like tough, you know, I was going to tell him straight up. Like, I'm out of here. Like,
Starting point is 00:32:00 look out of here. So he starts laughing and shit. So once I got hired, they gave me like a bulletproof vest, like a white one, because they all had blue or black. I think they had like blue, but they gave me like a white one. So on stage I could be differentiated
Starting point is 00:32:14 from everybody else, because they had like 30 guys on the stage that went on the tour. So it was just one tour bus and 30 guys. So randomly you got to hurry up and get on the bus and find a spot to sleep because you know, it's not like I had my own bunk. It was
Starting point is 00:32:30 free for all. So even 50, there'll be nights he sleeps on the floor to fucking, like that's how real he was. People love the fact that he kind of like made himself like equal to everybody on that bus. But that whole bus was like 42 bulletproof vests.
Starting point is 00:32:47 It was like another guns for war forever. So it was like 30 to 40 guys at every show in all these hood clubs. And that's how I started my whole G-Unit connection. Once I fucking survived that, we had like 180 shows.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I survived that shit. When I survived that, then I became like DJ. And then the first mixtape, of course, that same day when he hired me, I had to do drops. I didn't put the first tape together, the 50 Centures of Future. I just did my drops and left. And then
Starting point is 00:33:18 I took over after all that. The second mixtape, God's Plan, I started taking over. I got the guns and you know we had like cheesy that cheesy gun effects i was like what the fuck is this i just went and got the fucking uh um heat movie robert de niro al pacino i took all the guns from that movie and i sampled every gun so that's why you always hear a mixtape it sounds like a real shootout even at the shows people thought that it was like real sure people would be running or bobbing their head they would think that it's like a real shootout because i
Starting point is 00:33:49 took all the guns from that movie that's it all right so i don't know is is this because i always like to ask like the best story from that tour i don't really care about the girl thing because i already know the answer to that one but um what uh like what was the most scared was that the most scared you had ever been or is there another time on tour was a completely different situation where you're more scared um you don't understand i i was coming from i was coming from uh first of all i i i i just came from touring with CNN, Coppola Noriega. So they were insane. So I was on a road with Mobb Deep.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I was on a road with Red Man and Method Man. There was a Def Jam tour. And then, like I said, I got so cool with Chris Lighty and Def Jam that they hired me. They're like, yo, can you be CNN's tour DJ. And that shit was like shootouts and I think I got Give me your best story from that run then.
Starting point is 00:34:54 There was one time we were on a tour bus and these crazy white boys, they were like some fans and then they got really close to the bus and then they almost made the bus like, I guess, crash or some shit. So Nori was like, pull this shit over, pull that motherfucker over.
Starting point is 00:35:13 But these were like fans. Cause you gotta understand like Noriega was like CNN, Capone, Noriega, they were like, like high impact, crazy shit. Like their shows was gangster shooting. Yeah. Why? Yeah. All this crazy shit. So you their shows was gangsta shooting. He had all this crazy shit. So you got to understand, these crazy college white boys was just, like, going crazy, too.
Starting point is 00:35:30 But they had a convertible. There was, like, eight white boys on a convertible, and they got too close. They almost made the bus crash, and then fucking... The door was like, pull this bus over.
Starting point is 00:35:40 They pulled the bus over. So the white boys started that. Because, you know, back then, we had the locals on the tour buses, so they knew that this is the rapper's tour bus. It's not like a random bus. He just going crazy. They had, like, the album logo,
Starting point is 00:35:51 which was kind of crazy to be. I don't know why, but they had the album CNN logo on the bus. So when we pulled over, you know, all the security guards and Nori and Capone, everybody got out there, and they just started beating up
Starting point is 00:36:04 all the white boys to the ground, to a pulp, just pounding them out. I'm looking out the window like, are you serious? These are fans and shit, but the fact that they almost made the bus crash, they beat the shit out of
Starting point is 00:36:19 all of them. It was a good almost four or five minutes of just straight kicking. These guys had back then, we had Timberland. You know how big them boots are? They had like 40 belows. The 40 belows was huge. Pounding people out, beating them up. And then that's not even
Starting point is 00:36:35 adding on to the shootouts with Mobb Deep. Every time we had shows with Mobb Deep, always ends in shootouts. I remember there was a time, it was like the Matrix. So when I DJ, you know, the DJ console, there's like a space always in between. It's two turntables, a mixer, and there's a space. So every time there's a shootout, I go in that space. But most of the time, I got so desensitized from every shootout.
Starting point is 00:36:57 There was one time Mobb Deep went on before us, and we went on after Mobb Deep. I don't know what they did. before us and we went on after mob people i don't know what they did some guy came back locked the door of the whole like event space like locked the shit and then just pull out a fucking shotgun and start shooting crazy so i'm just looking at this shit like like like it's the matrix everything is slow mode but the but the fact that i didn't need to move or run it's kind of crazy because i'm so desensitized to like, I guess the violence is just, it just became normal because I got past the horror stage or getting
Starting point is 00:37:32 worried and you can't like show fear with these guys. So I don't know. I kind of like learned how to like compress all that shit because you, from, from my experience, people who run are the ones that get shot. So I was like, let me just sit here and let me just watch everybody run around and shoot. As long as the guy with the gun ain't coming my way, I'm cool.
Starting point is 00:37:51 So I took all that desensitization shit to the 50 Cent Tour. So seeing 50 Cent, I see fans get beat up, blood everywhere. There was a guy that got killed one time in the back. That's when you see Get Rich or Die Trying. That scene where the guy died in the back, like that, somebody died one time, but we couldn't cancel the show
Starting point is 00:38:11 because if 50 Cent was like, yo, I ain't doing the show because there's a dead body there, it would have been more dead bodies. So while they were doing an investigation, like that shit ain't got nothing to do with us. It's just some street bullshit that happened. And then we came like at one o'clock to get ready to go on stage.
Starting point is 00:38:28 There's a dead body in the back of the club. We still had to do the show because the whole club was like sold out. So the last thing they want to hear is 50 Cent's canceling because there's a dead body in the back. So the dead body's back there, yellow tape. They're still doing the investigation. But I guess the police knew that if this shit got shut down, it would be even more violence.
Starting point is 00:38:47 People paid like thousands of dollars just to be next to 50-50 or to watch them. You know what I'm saying? So, it's just shit like that. It's just like, alright, we knock that out. Alright. Let's get out of here. Next show. And then we go to Ohio and we meet gangsters and
Starting point is 00:39:03 shoot out fights again. Knock out that show. Next show, go to North Carolina. But most of the places, 90% of the places, it was love. But you always got to get some kind of negative bullshit because it just can't be easy everywhere. But if you have 30, 40 guys with you, it kind of repels any kind of hate or any kind of... I'm going to think twice before I go fuck with 50. 50 is already crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:30 So imagine you see you got to fight 50 plus the 40 guys, plus who knows what, you know, guns, whatever else is going to happen is going to go down. And me being a DJ, I'm the last to get my shit out. After they shit it up and fight and everything,
Starting point is 00:39:47 I got to go back and get the equipment. So, look, I think, as I've seen you explain before, especially in hip-hop, there's certain guys, you're listening to them and you go, you may have just caught on to the thing and put a hat on and now you're going to talk about how hard you are versus the guys that are real like especially with you and i experiencing rap music for the same time in completely different um and like me outside playing basketball in a suburban connecticut town and my father fucking walking by
Starting point is 00:40:21 listening to america's most wanted and hearing ice cubes lyrics and my father going like what the fuck is what are you listening to what is this um and now i was working out to it the other day and i was listening i go god if i were a father and my like white 13 year old son were listening to these lyrics i'd be like what the hell is going on here um because it was weird i mean you know what i mean like this is the first time but you're like westerns right like westerns growing up and it's cool the cowboy the desperado like all these these figures that's kind of what like early hip-hop was especially you know the west coast stuff for for anyone of a certain age so when 50 comes along and you hear that he's been shot you know you're like is he in a gang is he not in a gang and then it's kind of funny to see how he's gone corporate but he still hasn't
Starting point is 00:41:04 necessarily like removed that part of his personality how he's gone corporate but he still hasn't necessarily like removed that part of his personality where he's still like don't fuck with me um what is it about him that that's you know not like a lot of those guys don't usually have the long successful career in a bunch of different venues because it's like no eventually you have to get a little more corporate it doesn't seem like or it seems like he's been able to kind of do both and still be a guy that's considered real i i think it's because it's kind of like the scarface effect like you know if you see you know scarface was a notorious drug dealer piece of shit he killed mad people sold drugs and he got rich but it's just the fact that he there's a lot of courage and hustle and literally like you hear that kind of story and you can't believe that this person survived that long until he got killed.
Starting point is 00:41:53 He becomes like a legend. So I remember one time I was hanging with Gaddafi. I used to DJ a lot of their events. They were funneling music money into the movie industry. So Omar Gaddafi's sons would pick me up. Like the Gaddafi Gaddafi. Right. Like the one that America fucking shot the fuck up and killed and shit.
Starting point is 00:42:16 So I used to DJ a lot of their events everywhere, from Toronto to Venice, all these billionaire parties and shit like that. But there was one time I was in Toronto and I had to do a fucking movie premiere for some bullshit movie. So he was there. He's sponsoring it and giving money. But he used to pay me like 15 Gs just to DJ, do whatever I fucking want, only because I
Starting point is 00:42:41 was 50 cents DJ. He was a G-unit fan or whatever. But the relationship got bigger when he saw that I was a cool guy to fuck with, too. And then he was more a fan of the mixtapes more than 50 Cent because of the bullets and the gunshots I had all over the tapes. But one time I had an event real quick. I invited Al Pacino's daughter. Al Pacino's daughter is like, she's just a little heavyset at that time.
Starting point is 00:43:07 You know, she's kind of big. So she doesn't, you couldn't tell that it was Al Pacino's daughter. You know, he has like mad daughters. I don't know, man, but I was mad cool with her. So I said, yo, come fuck with me at this event. So I think the Gaddafis had like the whole section empty. Like it's just for me and the Gaddafis.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Like, but I didn't know, this is my first time even dealing with them by myself, with all 50 and shit like that. So I went there and I was like, damn, I got a fucking caviar. I love caviar. I'm a widow. I would wild like caviar. But I went and got some crackers and caviar.
Starting point is 00:43:39 So I walked away and I left Al Pacino's daughter chilling in VIP until I come back with the crackers. So when I, when I went to get the crackers, Gaddafi and them comes in. So, you know, these guys are like, you know, anti-feminine, you know, they don't care about women. Like women are second class citizens where they come from. So they, they, they just felt disrespected that there was a woman in it.
Starting point is 00:44:03 You know what I'm saying? So, I'm getting my crackers and my fucking I'm just getting my crackers and my shit, my caviar coming back. And then, I see them, like, they just threw her ass out. They just threw her, like, she's just, like, they're carrying her the fuck,
Starting point is 00:44:21 I don't know where they're going with her. I'm like, what are you doing? I said, what the fuck are you doing? He just threw away my gas. He was like, I don't give a fuck, man. No women in that fucking shit. This is a man's world. No women. We don't fuck with it.
Starting point is 00:44:34 This is fucking Allah. All kinds of Allah. I know it's crazy. I was like, yo. I was like, all right. But you know that's Al Pacino's daughter. He was like, what? That's Al Pacino's daughter?
Starting point is 00:44:44 Get her back over here. They carried this big fat chick back like a baby. They brought her back to the VIP and it just shows you how the energy where 50 Cent and Al Pacino can't be that different. Their aura
Starting point is 00:45:00 got more bigger where it could be corporate or whatever. When you see white people, corporate people say 50 cent, like that's the, that's like, that's the corporate world, you know, because he, they don't care about what he did or he just beat up Ja Rule or he just smack like some other rapper at, at vibe awards.
Starting point is 00:45:17 He'll be with the mayor of New York city doing a charity literally the next day. Cause his aura got so big and it's in everybody's DNA. You're in college listening to this shit. You more admire the story of him overcoming. If I got shot nine times, I'll quit. I'll retire and I'll go down south and
Starting point is 00:45:37 become a garbage man. I'll pick up trash and lay low and make $100,000 a year of some stupid shit. But he just came back, went harder, went at Jay-Z, went at this guy, still killing Ja Rule, murdering. Like, he never let that fucking, like, that shootout bring. People love, like, those kind of, and it was organic. There was no social media because he became a hood legend.
Starting point is 00:46:05 You know, like, you heard about it. You're like, yo, this guy got media because he became a hood legend. You know, like you heard about it. You're like, yo, this guy got shot and he's still out there. He came out with another diss record. What's wrong with this guy? So that tells you, what kind of person is this? And me, here I come in. He was already like legendarily like crazy. But by producing like other songs like Tupac in 50, Biggie in 50,
Starting point is 00:46:26 Snoop Dogg in 50, Sean Paul, culturally, gangsterly, pimply, I threw the spices on top of a story that was already too crazy. So you're already listening to all these hits. So imagine you're listening to radio.
Starting point is 00:46:42 You're already listening to like 15 fucking 50 cent songs plus his album and leak bullshit it just makes it it just makes you bigger than you are so it doesn't matter like what he's done he could smack like 20 people in a row he'll be hanging with obama like the next day and just like have dinner with him very cordially who who did he hate the most though was it was it jay-z or was it ja rule i mean obviously floyd isn't a rapper um the floyd stuff where you go back and forth but who do you think he was the one that like it bothered him the most i don't think i don't
Starting point is 00:47:16 think anybody's ever bothered him because he treats it like it's like a chess game or you know when you have like a war model on the wall and you're just putting attacks and you gotta like you gotta take over this city you gotta take over that city and we won here we won there he kind of like defeated mostly and then there's some people that he just will just keep defeating
Starting point is 00:47:38 until the end of time I think Ja Rule is definitely Ja Rule is definitely gonna be like out of here until fucking until he's out of here. And that's when it stops. I mean, because a lot of people don't know the stories of, like, back then, you know, Murder, Inc. used to, like, you know, Earth God, he had a lot of power. He probably still does. I don't know what kind of power he has now.
Starting point is 00:47:59 But back then, he had the Jay-Zs, the DMXs. Everybody was under his umbrella. So the Destiny Child, like Beyonce. I remember 50 had a song with Destiny Child. And then I guess, you know, Irv called like, take this guy off. Get out of here. We don't fuck with this guy.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Because he had so many artists under him that people wanted to get with. You know, so people would respect, like, you know, this is a new guy. Take him off. Fuck it. So imagine you're dealing with that blackball shit and every fucking label, like every label. Then he gets dropped by his own label after the shootout. So it looked like Murder, Inc. was winning at that time.
Starting point is 00:48:42 But if it wasn't for Chris Lighty, like, literally, like, not giving a fuck, Because at that time, Chris Lighty had a deal with Murder, Inc. He managed them, too. He had Ja Rule. Remember, he managed everybody. Gotti with Jay-Z, DMX. He still had like Jay-Z here and there, but it wasn't like all the way on point because Irv Gotti and them was the shit. Back then it was, I think it was Ja Rule, DMX, and Jay-Z. That was what was to be Murder, Inc. So at that time, Irv was like on top of the world. So anything he says goes.
Starting point is 00:49:19 So imagine you're just a guy trying to put music out. Everywhere you go, yo, this guy takes you off the shit. This guy stops your shit. A lot of people don't know that. That's why Fikki's relentless with the Ja Rule shit, because they were doing that to him. Yeah, makes sense. The fact that Eminem, that's why the only two people are, you know, Chris Lighty passed away. So those are only probably two people he would fuck with.
Starting point is 00:49:44 It would be Chris Lighty and Eminem. Eminem, Dr. Dre, he really didn't want to deal with that. He finally had his shit popping. He got out of the Death Row shit of Suge Knight. He had Eminem. He had Chronic. He's a success.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Why do I have to take in this guy that just got shot nine times? Now I have to take his beef with me. I don't feel like dealing with all that shit right now. So then Eminem was like, I'll take him. Yeah, I mean, how did you hook up with Eminem to the point where, I mean, I don't know what your relationship is with him. Well, the first generic connection was the mixtape.
Starting point is 00:50:18 So Eminem got 50 Cent is the Future. So that kind of like woke his ass up. And then that was like all of us connected like shop shop money you know send it to um paul rosenberg um and uh and uh i think uh m's lawyer at that time so the combination of all of us getting hurt on that tape made eminem want to sign 50. so i think eminem is really the one that kind of like, saved his life, to be honest. Like, he'll stop whatever he's
Starting point is 00:50:50 doing for Eminem. He'll do whatever. If Eminem wants him in Russia, he's going to Russia. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's the only one, and I think he's the only one that he'll talk to. Dre is like business. He doesn't hate Dre, but he'll talk to him on some business shit, beats and getting production done
Starting point is 00:51:05 but he knows the story like you know like if it wasn't for Eminem he would never even be there Dre you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:51:12 so it's kind of like people just it's just like you know if you feel like somebody has a potential of being like
Starting point is 00:51:19 something great with a legendary status but you gotta take the risk in picking them and and going with it. You know, that was his fate in the hip hop shit. Somebody took a risk. Like, you know, Chris Lighty did it first. And then Eminem did it with the label.
Starting point is 00:51:36 When it was Chris Lighty, like, going with him and going with the hype, it was just like leaked mixtape songs. Like, that was the hype. That's crazy. then eminem just kind of like made it even more crazy after garrison died trying it was over and then me my my job was just mixtapes and creating the hype and my lying techniques and got professionally hooked up where i just made everybody do freestyles it was easy 50 cent had so much hype and then once he got with Dre,
Starting point is 00:52:06 it was easy for me to get Snoop and call everybody. Everybody I called, yeah, we'll do it. What do you want me to do? So I had like so many songs. I had like a thousand songs done. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:52:15 So it was easy. And then it's easy to fucking woo all you guys out there because y'all don't know the backstory, but y'all just seen like the energy of the music and the shooting but there's always a meaning
Starting point is 00:52:27 why he is who he is like you know he's gonna be relentless because in the beginning people were relentless to him what's your your favorite part about Eminem from the beginning to you know the middle
Starting point is 00:52:44 of it and then him him still, you know I would I would say 20 years ago when he popped up like hey this guy's still gonna be really relevant 20 years from now I don't think a lot of people would have said that especially just the way music works and the whole deal But what's what's your favorite part about him? I? Like the fact that he's a cool guy. Mary's is funny. He's actually very hilariously funny. Like I'm the comedic aspect of the whole thing that has to do with Junior. Because Junior in the beginning was gangster. They were like killers and scary.
Starting point is 00:53:15 And they had the aura you couldn't get near. I kind of broke him down where you can still be like that. But I will be the balance of being funny. And I'll be stupid. I'll ride a fucking camel. I'll get on a kang stupid. I'll ride a fucking camel. I'll fight a kangaroo because you're too gangster to do it. You're too cool and tough to fight a kangaroo. Let me do it.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Everybody thinks I'm June in any way. Let me go fight the kangaroo. Let me get beat up and everybody laughs at me with this kangaroo. I made them come on my side. When you hang with Eminem, Eminem's always been fucking zany, always been funny. He's just like a little kid stuck in his room. And the reason I say that is because he can't go nowhere.
Starting point is 00:53:57 He's like, you're fucking 17, 18, or even younger than that. You're like a 14-year- old that can't go outside because the whole world knows you so i was like and then the fact that he only talks to maybe like eight people in his lifetime and i'm like one of the eight even if i wait like when i gotta do an interview or we have an event or i go see him at a show I'm still like one of the eight to like nine people that he talks to. He doesn't talk to nobody. You know what I'm saying? So it's kind of like maybe
Starting point is 00:54:31 because of my, I guess he connects with my stupidity and, you know, he's always been funny. You know, in the beginning of his career, all his music videos was crazy, zany, and that's really like who he is. You know, like him doing skits for me, he loves doing that shit. A lot of people don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:46 He loves doing crazy ass skits. Like funny shit. Like he's, I don't know. For me to get 50 cents to do a skit is like, come on, man. It's like, yeah, I'm gonna kill you, dig it. Like, but he'll fucking produce it. He'll fucking, he'll get like impersonators.
Starting point is 00:55:03 He'll get like a fake Jay-Z. He'll get like fucking somebody, something like Trump a fake jay-z he'll get like fucking somebody something like trump and he gets in it and he edits it like he makes like production where i'll just get nigga i'm gonna kill you that's what i'm gonna get for 50 and that's it but that's the type of person he is you know what i'm saying and then he i have like some wild stories on him but he's the fucking like he's hands down the coolest white boy I've ever met in my life wait a minute so you do or you you don't want to tell him because I don't
Starting point is 00:55:31 I mean I look man you tell me what you want to do because I don't know I mean hell if you got a great Eminem story you want to share I'm all for it you know it I mean there's one I kind of like leaked a little bit of it where he where in Japan he was shooting shit up. Like,
Starting point is 00:55:45 you know, in Japan back in the days they had like realistic guns. Like there were toy guns, like BB guns or whatever, but they made them so real. They look like, and they shoot like real guns. So when you shoot the BB,
Starting point is 00:55:58 it's almost like a silencer. Like, so he was, he loved going like to Asia and buy, he'd buy like a whole bunch of these shits just to take back before they were banned in the states because you know kids i guess they were making them so realistic kids was killing each other in the hood like you know a cop see a kid they don't know if it's real or not so they totally banned the guns all toy guns have the
Starting point is 00:56:18 red tips you know the goofy ass big ass chunky red tip so the cop could be like oh that's a toy gun but back then they looked so realistic. So what he would do, I used to have like fucking, you know, I'm on tour. So I always have hoes in my room fucking them going crazy. But in Japan, they don't speak English like that. So
Starting point is 00:56:37 I had these two chicks and then one chick was like, yo, I don't think my friend want to leave. The other chick finally fucking falls asleep on her her back on a couch but now it's like three in the morning we never usually so we're in japan so that we have yakuza that's like as security so the yakuza is like downstairs they're upstairs they buy the elevators so they're just like you know making sure nobody comes to the m&M would have the whole top floor. You know what I'm saying? So I'm sleeping. And then all of a sudden.
Starting point is 00:57:10 The chick I fuck is like, grab me. She's like, oh, I was like, oh, what happened? What happened? What the fuck going on? And then her friend is like crying and screaming. She's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody came in here with a gun and shot in here. And shot at the drapes or shot at me. Because she said that whoever kicked the door open had a mask. Kicked the door open, pulled the gun out. And then she sees the guy with the mask. And then she faints because she thought she was going to get killed.
Starting point is 00:57:45 So the chick that was on the couch sees the girl, faints, and then wakes up from her faint and starts screaming. Like, she been saw it. The guy shot. She faints. She wakes up after her faint, wakes up my chick. I'm just like, what? I'm talking to somebody who said somebody tried to kill me. So I'm thinking that maybe somebody tried to kill me.
Starting point is 00:58:05 They think I'm 50 Cent. Or I don't know. Like, I woke up, shot money. I was like, yo, there's somebody trying to kill us and shit. Like, because we saw on the drape, they had, like,
Starting point is 00:58:14 these little holes in there. So I was like, yo, don't we have, like, Yakuza out here? What the fuck's going on? So me and my buddy called up. We called downstairs and we called the police.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Like, there's somebody with a gun. Like, in here trying to kill us and shit. So the chick is like, where are they at? So the chick just left. They didn't even, like, stay. They left. So meanwhile, the police come. We do a police report. It was crazy shit.
Starting point is 00:58:38 We're chilling. All of a sudden, the next day, nobody's saying nothing. We're still, like, I'm with d12 i'm with proof i'm telling like bizarre and fucking everybody that's on the tour like i'm like yo somebody's trying to kill us yo like i think somebody thought i was 50 because i was kind of like buff back then so i don't know i was like maybe he thought i was 50 and some Japanese. Because even the night before, Eminem got this clone. He's like a copycat. His name was Partial.
Starting point is 00:59:10 He looked just like Eminem. But part of the show, he would just pop up, and Eminem would shoot him. He would disappear. And we'll do a magic show on stage. So he looked just like Eminem. So I used to take him to the clubs and charge 10 Gs, act like he's Eminem. And he's fucking, you know, I would give him like 500 bucks. I'll pay up all the security, like 500 each.
Starting point is 00:59:34 And then maybe I'll take proof or whatever with me. And then at that, you know, cause at that, at that time, if you see Eminem coming in the club, you know you're not going to get near him. You know what I'm saying? So all the Japanese people are crying. Like, they're going crazy because he looks... The security guards look like houses.
Starting point is 00:59:51 They're, like, huge. So they're just surrounding him. And they thought he was Eminem. But that same night, we had beef with some crazy gangster, like, Japanese Yakuza dudes. The security guards don't... You know, it's the first time they're wearing Japan. So they don't understand the culture
Starting point is 01:00:06 or how serious it is. So they beat up, they punched the hell out of some crazy kid, some Japanese kid, and then the kid comes back. He's waiting for us outside with a sword.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Like, he had a sword. He went to his car and pulled his sword out. So I was like, yo, I'm not losing an arm in fucking Japan for no fucking beef, like some pointless beef.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I don't even know why they were arguing. We got the vet and we got the fuck out of there. So that's why I told Sha, I was like, yo, I think these guys are coming to where we're at.
Starting point is 01:00:34 I don't know how they, because we have Yakuza security. That's why I was like, yo, Yakuza is like trying to kill us and shit? Security's here. How they gonna try to kill us? So whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Two days go by. One day go by. We're doing another show. We're still talking about this shit because nothing's been, like, concluded of the whole matter. So there was one night, I just got,
Starting point is 01:00:56 I think it was like the fourth day we were in Yokohama or one of the cities in Japan. I think Tokyo or whatever. And I just, let me get up. And then I wanted to get, like, you know, a drink. You know, in Japan, I think Tokyo or whatever. And I just, let me get up. And then I wanted to get a drink. You know, in Japan, they have all these weird drinks
Starting point is 01:01:09 with balls in it and all these toys and all this corny shit. But I didn't have no Japanese. I didn't have no coins. I didn't have no whatever yen or whatever the coin is. So I was waking up all the rappers.
Starting point is 01:01:20 It was four in the morning. I'm trying to wake up all the rappers because I went to Proof Room because me and Proof was mad cool on the road. So I would go to him. I'd go to Young Buck. And then I think Buck had some coins. I took his coins. So now I come out, I'm going to the machine to get like some soda pop or whatever they call it. I see fucking Eminem with the mask. Like he had like the fucking bandana. And I seen him kick fucking Bizarre's door in. He's just shooting in the room.
Starting point is 01:01:47 He looks at me and he just runs to his room and shuts the door. So that means he knew for like four fucking days. The whole time. We're fucking out of our minds scared. We got police involved in it. We do all this crazy shit and he just never
Starting point is 01:02:02 told us. I was like, this motherfucker is crazy, though. I just can't believe this dude. I was like, this motherfucker is crazy. I just can't believe this dude. This is the type of person he is. He's out of his mind. I'm going to let you bounce after this. I like to do five questions and then not do them
Starting point is 01:02:18 all the time with guests. We're going to do it with you in honor of Craig Kilbourne. A little more rapid fire. Give me the city that you, you love. Like you had no idea something off the radar. I mean, there's all cities that we all love,
Starting point is 01:02:31 but like, give me one that's, that's international that you're like, this city is amazing that maybe people wouldn't think about. Um, there's a, there's a, there's a city called,
Starting point is 01:02:43 uh, I don't know. I'll never forget that shit. Um, damn. It's a there's a there's a city called uh i don't know i'll never forget that shit um damn what's it called shit uh oh estonia yeah i've heard good things i heard it's nuts so estonia is i'll never forget estonia because after the concert um we i i took 50 to the room and then i went to go meet uh you know a production guy like he had like a huge suite so he would he would trick like 50 in in the room selection so 50 always had a suite but he never added his suite on the list so when I went to the suite, everybody from the after party was in there. And that's all women.
Starting point is 01:03:26 So I had to go DJ the after party after. So when I get to the after party and I'm rocking it and now it's over. It's four in the morning. And once it's over, all the girls start screaming group set, group set. I was like, what the fuck? So I thought it was a joke.
Starting point is 01:03:42 So we go back to the hotel. All the fucking girls from the club, even the ones that followed us and more, went back to that suite and then I put 50 in his room and now I'm like, let me go see what's going on in the production room because I heard there's some shit
Starting point is 01:03:58 going on. So I open the door and once the door opens and then he's like, welcome to Fantasy Island. Like, everybody, all the chicks are naked. Like, the barber's fucking, the baggage handler, everybody, those girls are naked. I'm talking about like 30, 40 girls
Starting point is 01:04:13 butt-ass naked. And we just, it was over. I was like, see ya. I just... So Estonia, it's out of control, right right it doesn't matter for those but the hands down like some weird ass shit yeah just to make sure we don't have any any uh geography people getting in our case um uh talon is the city yeah it's just it's just
Starting point is 01:04:40 south of finland across the baltic sea there estonia is its own country latvia okay give me give me a young rapper now yeah it doesn't have to be like real year young but like a newer generation rapper that you love um i love ybn corday he reminds me he's like kind of like the balance of uh because he fucks with like uh i don't know he he reminds me like he's very lyrical but he's giving me like the oh he has the the aura of all the neo kids too of the new kids that's rapping but it's just no ignorance so he's a storyteller but i don't know it's it's hard to explain you got to go see his show to understand it you know i'm saying like he does a great show and he's very interactive with the people but he he's a good risk taker for some reason you know i used to i mean before it was kendrick lamar because he used
Starting point is 01:05:37 to be going crazy with his different styles but um he's kind of like why being court is kind of like, YBN Cordae is kind of like a slower version for me to keep up, to catch up. And he doesn't OD with the experimentations. You know how you're like Kanye West crying. I mean, I just heard some shit where Kendrick Lamar was like, like he's just crying. It's cool to be like that, but I'm a little too old to be trying to like experiment with you so yeah why being corday got me up to speed on a lot of shit he's kind of like one of my and plus he you know he he's haitian now he dates uh that tennis player that's haitian too
Starting point is 01:06:19 so he so he's in so we we also have a personal relationship so it's kind of like i was a fan i never met him i played his records first or i leaked a lot of his shit from his manager and then um this is like a year and then i think his father and brother was in the car hearing me on radio bumping his shit and. I think that kind of touched his heart because his father and brother called him, yo, you're on the radio. Who kid? He loves you. He's playing you nonstop.
Starting point is 01:06:54 It was like an organic kind of thing. I've always liked his style. Last one. Give me the NBA guy you're the closest with. NBA guy that I the closest with. NBA guy that I'm closest with? I can imagine when you're in all these different
Starting point is 01:07:09 cities, whether it's your show or knowing you from all the touring, that some guys are always hitting you up. Who's the lock to hit you up when you get to his city? All the big guys, I know them, but I guess their game and their popularity kind of like, it's not like back in the days where, you know, like Starks used to come to my party. up until, I think Iman Shumpert was probably the last of the breed of they could come to the party whenever, do whatever they fucking want.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Steve, I remember the Knicks had Steve. Wasn't he Steve? Steve Franchise? No, no, no. Stephen Francis. Yeah, Stephen Francis. No, he went to play with LeBron too. It was Iman Shumpert and him that got transferred out
Starting point is 01:08:10 they got traded from the Knicks yeah J.R. Smith yeah J.R. Smith yeah so him and Shumpert are like the last of like if you see me like wallowing out back in the days in the clubs with Drake and everybody, the Knicks was always in there.
Starting point is 01:08:28 I think because of my parties, we created that law that they have to be back at a certain time because they had a game the next day. They had like curfews and shit because they were ODing, partying like crazy. So, you know, and everybody that comes into town, they'll hit me because they know I'll be at a greenhouse or wherever doing all the wild shit. But I would say, I mean, LeBron would be kind of like, he's just too high up to just too high up there to just stop and go you know so
Starting point is 01:09:06 like I was with him in in All-Star Weekend in Toronto um it's like you know
Starting point is 01:09:15 you just hang with him all day it's good because there's no pressure of him like he has to play or
Starting point is 01:09:22 he can't be out there like that you know what I'm saying so that he'll probably be like one of the because or he can't be out there like that you know what i'm saying so that he'll probably be like one of the because you know i've he's hosted like tons of my tapes and but i would say i would say lebron um would be like a good but everybody else is just cool they just come out and chill yeah um tim thomas is old school. Tim Thomas is like one of my best friends and shit. Oh, no kidding.
Starting point is 01:09:48 We were just talking about him in the redraft the other day. Yeah, old school. He's like one of my best, best, best, best, best friends. So, yeah, he's crazy. He was part of like crazy, too. Hey, so I know you can follow Who Kid at DJ Who Kid. That's on Twitter. And then it's also at DJ Who Kid on IG.
Starting point is 01:10:08 And you got something new coming up with Akon, right? Because we were talking about that before. So I know the Hulu would shuffle, but you're doing some podcast stuff too. So I just want to make sure you get it out there. Yeah, I got my Who Army podcast. It's going to be refurnished. It was an Ignite podcast, but now it's going to be Who Army because everything is going to be Who Army
Starting point is 01:10:28 this year. I just started my Who Army live. I just did it with Akon. He was on my first one. He's already causing trouble out there. You need to be on there live with me too. Yeah, I want to come in. Yeah, I want to come in once we get
Starting point is 01:10:44 all sorted out through all this, man. Yeah, and then of course, you know, I have like a book, TV stuff going on too. And I'm currently on that cartoon documentary on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Like all the stuff we're talking about. When you see the scene, you're going to understand why these stories are out there. But I'm on the cartoon tattoo. I actually got like mad tattoos from him. There's actually a cartoon one right here. Yeah, right. That Netflix doc on cartoon.
Starting point is 01:11:16 That's right. Yeah, I just watched that the other day. You get my whole back. But I did it the same day with Dre, Eminem, and 50. So I had to. I was there. I was there. I was like, yo, just do my back. Fuck it.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Like, he was just knocking out the whole G unit bullshit. So, and then, yeah, that's basically it. I got my, you know, everybody just follow me on Instagram. And then I got my weed strand coming out soon. My Who Weed. Getting that done now. Because everybody's fucking stuck in quarantine. So I'm putting that together. So all myized uh states out there that fuck with weed hopefully you can handle my
Starting point is 01:11:51 who we strength you know i'm saying so okay you're who we on hey uh i i know you got stuff going on even during this i really appreciate the time i appreciate all the time you've had for us and my friends and hopefully I get to run into you again soon. Alright man, so stay safe. Thank you.

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