The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Yanks Pack Up the Sox, the Strange 4-0 Eagles, and Fixing the Ravens With Kevin Clark. Plus, Is Kyle Shanahan a $30M coach?

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

Russillo opens the show talking about Cam Schlittler’s incredible performance last night to eliminate the Red Sox. Then ESPN’s Kevin Clark stops by to discuss the 49ers' win over the Rams and just how impressive Kyle Shanahan is at maximizing QBs. They also discuss the Eagles' poor stats despite remaining undefeated through four weeks, the upcoming Ravens-Texans matchup, reevaluating the Bucs’ ceiling, the Chargers’ offensive line struggles, and CFB’s marquee matchup: Miami vs. Florida State. Finally, Ryen closes the show with Life Advice! (0:00) Welcome to the Show(2:01) Yankees eliminated the Red Sox(6:25) Kevin Clark joins / Big 49ers win(29:07) The weird 4-0 Eagles(35:17) Texans-Ravens(39:30) What to make of the Bucs(43:50) Chargers-Commanders(46:25) Miami Hurricanes(57:57) Life Advice Host: Ryen RussilloGuest: Kevin ClarkProducers: Kyle Crichton, Steve Ceruti, and Jonathan Frias_ _ _ _ Chad Powers - New Episodes on Tuesdays on Hulu The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On today's episode of the Ryan Roussela podcast, I'll do a little baseball for you. An all-time night from Cam Schlittler. Yep. You've heard all the puns by now. But he was, there you go. You can do it again. We can do it all day if we want to. just a historic performance.

Like he actually was doing stuff we have not, you could say technically ever seen with the combination of velocity, the final box score, and shutting down this Red Sox lineup that may or may not have four guys that are probably utility players in this lineup. My disappointment level is a good run.

It's a good run. I picked up this Red Sox run late September and, you know, it's early October. So I'm okay. I'm not damaged. So we're going to talk about that a little bit. But more importantly, we're going to talk football with Kevin Clark.

We're going to do through a bunch of the big games. We're also going to talk bigger picture on the OC mind as the head coach. It gets aggressive at some point. And then, of course, his thoughts on Miami's big turnaround this season, which we thought we did last year, but it does feel a little bit different this time. We've got an alliance pick, and Kyle is here for life advice. Enjoy. This is the Ryan Murillo podcast presented by Fandul,

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or visit RG. Help.com. Call 888, 789, 777, or visit at CCPg.org forward slash chat in Connecticut. Cam Schlittler, that is the story last night, and it's the kind of story for baseball fans that are going to get you excited probably about the next 10 years. There's nothing, nothing that would get me more excited back than the day

about the hope of having like a top of the rotation prospect step up and be like my favorite thing ever for the next 10 years. And I'm not saying that's going to happen. I have no idea. The numbers are incredible from Schlitler last night, historic. He hit 90s. plus miles an hour on 64 of his 107 pitches, okay? He went eight scoreless, five singles, no walks, 12 strikeouts.

You can actually look at that box score and say he's like the first guy to do this ever. There's also one, like the first rookie to throw this many strikeouts in an elimination game since Levan Hernandez, which Jeff Passon posted that last night and showed us the YouTube video of the umpire getting excited about being a part. of history atop, everything else. I've watched that a few different times, LeVan, in that strike zone that he was getting, and you're just like, man, this is fun. So that's the kind of thing that you didn't just win the series

Yankees fans. You're going, wait a minute. Do we have a dude now that we can put in between our two lefties as you go up against Toronto? Because every single thing from that box score, and that's just the best. It's the best when you're a baseball fan, and you're like, do we have a homegrown guy

who's going to be a stud, who, by the way, was also from All-Poll to make it even worse for the Red Sox. How am I doing? Thanks for asking. I'm okay. Really good. Doing really good. And I'm serious.

These used to be the kind of things that'd be devastating. I may even taking the night off or the day off, or maybe because I took the night off. They then would need the day off. But this was okay. I was okay with it. I was late to the game with the 25 Red Sox. I still sort of pissed about a lot of different things.

And when you're younger, you get pissed about even more things. You know, when you're younger and you identify with the baseball team, I think it has a lot to do with, like, who we are as young men. You don't have family yet. Maybe we don't have a career that we love. Maybe none of you even volunteer, you know? So you go, hey, I need something.

I need something. I can't be, like now I think guys will wear like beanies, right? But back in my day, the move was you just get really into baseball, you know, or maybe you love tool and you argue about time signatures. I don't know like no dude no dude that's 7-8 so that's what I used to be like pre-2004 these kinds of losses make me miserable okay with it now 2004 helps also being older also feeling there's other stuff going on and it's also my job every single day and I don't know how it happened for me I wish it hadn't although it feels a little bit healthier on a day

like today but this Red Sox team you can't play that way and get it going against this Yankees team like that. Whatever the bullpen advantage that Boston had didn't really come to play with this whatsoever. Sure, in game one, even though that almost got ugly. But if you look at game two, like, that's the game, just a million mistakes. You've got Duran and left field. You got the Raphael Bunt. You've got Whitlock, who's been one of the best relievers in baseball, not coming through, Eaton, not scoring from third. The Jazz Chisholm dive, save and run. So, There was just so many mistakes in game two and their defense wasn't very good. And look, they're just not that great of a team.

If you look at that lineup, you're going, there's like four guys in here that probably shouldn't be in a division contending teams lineup to start the 26th season. So look, congrats to the Yanks and congrats to Jimmy Fallon. I'm making this public right now. If I'm invited on the Fallon show as a guest, I'm not going on. It's not because I didn't realize that fever pitch wasn't a documentary. It's just that dude. I'm telling you when the Sox won and they were filming all that stuff.

that guy was on the field, non-footage moments, just running around. Like, it had finally happened. It's like, dude, stick to the script. Stick to the script. I don't know if it was B-roll. If it was B-roll, maybe I'll retract my rejecting the invitation to the show. But, you know, that stung. That stung for a lot of, luckily I'm old enough to deal with it now.

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Don't miss out. Free access ends August 24th. Visit Ancestry.com for more detail. terms apply let's talk some football Kevin Clark joins us now from ESPN old friend from his time at the ringer also this is football out multiple episodes per week what's good man good to see you I'm just I'm excited good college weekend Florida State Miami and then decent NFL weekend and then baseball playoffs which are happening that's right all accurate statements I'm going to get to Miami Florida State with you because I know how excited you are about your canes because I think you should be excited about your canes. Let's start because I didn't do a lot on it last night's game. Yeah. So you've got Mack Jones out there with no receiving production from the 24th season. I think the throw on the touchdown to start the get into the Tungus touchdown, I guess

that'd probably be the second one. Just him kind of giving up on the route and being like, I'm going to get this out because it's there now, showed me something. The roughing the passer throw showed me something. And then just him moving around and just finding different ways to get him involved while he's dealing with his PCL injury. So we know we've kind of seen this Shanahan story before, but what does this say about Mack Jones and San Francisco in general to you? Not only the team part of this record with these injuries, but just who he is now versus kind of what I thought of him post in New England. in Jacksonville where I thought he was terrible. This is what we were begging for was to see Mack Jones in this offense.

I've always joked like it's not quarterbacking is not like F1 where you get to see the driver in the same car as the other driver. Like you don't get to compare and say there's two McLaren's. They have basically the same car. Let's see how it goes, right? Quarterbacking is different. So we never got to see the Brock Purdy versus Mac Jones just like running the same car, see who's better, right?

See who's better in the corners. And now we're kind of getting to see it. And it's a Kyle Shanahan testament, the fact that last night, Mac Jones had the second most yardage on short passes out of any quarterback this year. He was basically throwing a lot of his work within 10 yards. I think that's by design. But it's also, he's getting the ball out quickly. And he doesn't have, you know, Ricky Pearsall is out. Like he doesn't have some of the weapons that you're supposed to have if you're the Niners quarterback.

And so I was so impressed with everybody last night. That was an amazing Kyle Shanahan win because I've been down on Shanahan in the maybe three or four years ago because it was it felt like when when Jimmy Groppo would get hurt, they would everybody would just give up on the season. And for that win last night when everybody is unbelievably hurt and you've got Bosa out and you've got a lack of depth anywhere, everywhere to grind that out and to make Mack Jones into what he was last night. I'm just, I'm so impressed with that was an organization of win to me. me and now we can do the discourse of what what should have happened in the draft with with mac jones and should they've taken him third overall or whatever like i don't even know if that matters like it's it's kyle shanahan and kyle shanahan can create a top 10 quarterback which to me means you should take kyle shanahan ahead of almost anybody except maybe five or six quarterbacks in

this league oh wow this is very brad stevensish yes like there was a step at Rosillo a couple years ago where if you just did the top seasons by yards per attempt, it was like five of them in history, like five of them were Shanahan quarterbacks. Like he creates yards per attempt monsters, which is the most, which is an efficiency stat. He creates efficient quarterbacks. So I, there's a, there's not a lot of guys where if you're drafting personnel, I'd say, I want that guy over Kyle Shanahan. So it's funny because I was going to actually not do this now because I was thinking about it as an opening on a slower day.

But let's just do it because I'd rather do it with you. Because one of the things about like the most important person for your organization, one of the things that I used to think was really silly is like, okay, so Theo Epstein's going to make $1.5 million, but Craig Grebeck's going to make $5 million. Like utility infielder is going to make. but a lot of it has to do with kind of the standard of what that job pays you. This is something that I talk about all the time. Like, if I think about how many people listen to Pardon My Take, and I don't know how much those guys make, but I probably could guess, and then how much, like, late-night TV hosts make,

and yet if you looked at Pardon My Take's audience versus the audience for these late-night hosts, but we grew up with the idea that that was the marquee job in television, that those people always it's an eight-figure deal it's 20 plus million it's just kind of what it is you have your person who's like the anchor of your late night TV it's still kind of this people could say whatever they want about network but it's still on in a lot of homes but the actual viewership is so down dramatically from what we grew up with but yet the standard if I ever told like a buddy like hey I think the guys from part of my take should make more money than fill in the blank talk show host because I know that's its own topic on top of everything else.

else. What you're saying about Shanahan is exactly what I was thinking last night. It's like, if this guy is this good, we can get in the fucking timeouts and should have done this. Yeah. Yeah. I just think that's so small on the pie chart of what's important when it seems like Shanahan could just do this all the time. Like, this is the person that should be making $30 million a year for your organization. I totally agree. And to piggyback off the late night point, there was someone recently, Curtis put, Brian Curtis put out a thing where I guess, DiCaprio told this great story on New Heights the other day about how his first agent, one of the changes named to Lenny Williams, because DiCaprio was too ethnic, which is the same thing

happened to me. Yeah. And so, Brian was like, this sounds like a great late, late night anecdote because it was, it was his opener on Letterman 35 years ago, whenever, whenever DeCaprio made his debut on David Letterman, probably around Titanic. and someone in the replies and it stood out to me was like well this is the new late night and I thought about it and it's like it is like you got to have your anecdotes prepped for new heights or pardon my take or silo like it really is this is where you go with your good anecdotes now you don't if you go to like some of late night stuff you're doing bits or whatever but it's really kind of hard to break through like you someone just clips you and all the sudden you have more reach than like someone puts it on TikTok and all of a sudden you have more reach than then then you would if you appeared on a network show for five hours overnight. Like, it's a fascinating thing to get into,

but we're not going to do that. We're going to do Kyle Shanahan. I agree. I mean, that's the inefficiency in there's no cap for coaches, right? There's no salary cap for coaches. I've been surprised. Now, I've heard people say this in the past. I've been surprised.

Maybe Detroit was doing a little bit with Ben Johnson. Maybe, not maybe. Tampa Bay was trying to do with Liam Cohen. If we pay our offensive coordinator who is propping up this quarterback, what is almost head coaching money to keep him around, is that worth it? And I kind of think the answer is yes, but you kind of have to find a guy who doesn't want everything that comes along with being a head coach in order for that to be a successful model.

But Ben Johnson does want to be head coach. Liam Cohen does want to be head coach. He used to want to do it for Trent Balky and then circumstances change and he does that secret interview in Jacksonville. And so the play caller, I think, I think play calling and a lot of that stuff can be overrated. But if you have a proven track record of making quarterbacks better, and remember, the difference between, we're still,

the difference between a mediocre, so let's Daniel Jones making $14 million this year and the top quarterbacks are making $55 million, okay? If you can take Daniel Jones, if you're Shane Steichen, just proof of concept, if you can take a $14 million quarterback and making him a $55 million quarterback, shouldn't you get some of that? Shouldn't that be baked into your cost?

I don't know the answer. And obviously the union part of it as far as this is negotiated and salaries, there's a salary floor and all that stuff. So that's different. How this is all slotted, the franchise tag, which is negotiating off of, coaches don't have that. I'm just wondering if in 10 years we're going to look at coaching salaries

dramatically differently because of one owner saying screw it. And David Teper kind of tried to do this with Matt Ruhl and unfortunately it was Matt Ruhl. But at some point an owner is going to be like, if we can, if this guy can create that kind of value, and remember, these are all hedge fund guys now who are buying in these teams, they can create what amounts to shareholder value. If they can increase the value of our investments, then yeah, they deserve quarterback money. I'm totally with you on this.

The play calling part of it would be tough to just say, hey, like Chip Kelly had to go through head coaching for them to him probably be totally fine with making as much as he is now as the play caller for Vegas, right? Right. If you're in coaching, you likely are an incredibly competitive person. You probably for years have thought about it on the ride home, the shower, getting ready in the day, like, what is it going to be like when it's my program? And you're so competitive that you want to be a head coach. So for some of the younger guys, but it's almost like the Vic Fangio model on the other side

of it. It's just, are you just happy doing this? And I bet so many of these guys, once they go through the head coaching ringer, are so thrilled just to focus on the football part of it. their side of the ball and never have to do anything else. And, you know, it's another thing watching Mack Jones last night and going, I can't believe. Like, I think Belichick's UNC stuff and relationship stuff makes so much sense now when I remind myself that he had Matt Patricia call plays. I think that is actually like the line. Like, when did it start going with, not when

he decided to like win a showdown with Brady over money with no backup plan, which I've referenced a million times, that he was like, no, we could just, we can just do this. And for Mac Jones to go from Matt Patricia to Shanahan, which is quarterback heaven, and again, the other part of it, too, like I agree completely on the organizational pride of last night, the way those guys were acting after winning that game. And yeah, it's the fourth downstop, and it's overtime and all that stuff. And then going up against McBay, who's very much part of the same conversation, I remember when you had a good, you had a great tweet. It was years ago, right? And I think the premise was, I'm going to try to get this

joke right, but it was like, did you have a Bud Light line at some point with Sean McVeigh? And it's like hired, all right? And then, and then, so I made that joke. I said, basically, it was a flow chart. It was, have you met Sean McVeigh? And then have you had a Bud Light line with Sean McVeigh? And if you have, you're hired as head coach. So I make that joke. And then, like, two days later, I'm not, this part is not a joke. The Arizona Cardinals hire Cliff Kingsbury. And on the Arizona Cardinals website, in the press release, it says is friends with Ramscoats Sean McVeigh. It literally said that. And then they had to edit it out afterwards because of they did the meme. They did the meme. Well, I went through it again this morning.

And this is something I, because there was a lot of hysteria about it. And some of the criticism, I think is a bigger picture thing that has nothing to do with each and every. individual hire, but it gets to how many white guys are getting opportunities to be head coaches the NFL, which is a longstanding issue and something that's debated all the time. But when it comes to an owner who's like, where do I get one of these guys on this family tree? And I think years removed from that observation and all the discussion around it, it was the right move for almost all of these teams. Like if you want to get in my case and say, hey, Kingsdale, you've already made the face, but we can do it. No, no, I'm thinking, yeah, there's, I mean, if you go through it,

like what do I need to do 90% hit rate to be right because I'm not I'm not going to be able to do that but go ahead I was going to say all right so McVeigh obviously is a hit Kingsbury not exactly Zach Taylor I think will probably not end up being a hit do you consider him hit because he made a Super Bowl yes are you yeah okay okay I agree yes but would how many guys with Joe Burrow I'm just asking how many guys with Joe Burrow would have made would have would have would have started winning. I guess. Understanding how simple we can be about just the result part of it,

but yeah, he's not as good when Burrow is there. When Joe Burroughs out. Right, but he wasn't as good when Joe Burrow wasn't there before that. So the guy's first overall pick for a reason. So it's a hit, yes, but I don't think he's the long-term answer there. And then, by the way, I think we're going to debate McDaniel.

McDaniel made to exactly what we're talking about. million times he got to a from what we're talking about a bridge 14 million dollar quarterback so he's playing like before mcmanuel got there to a 55 60 million dollar contract so he did the job he was hired for which is make the quarterback better the team wasn't strong enough they got bad luck on injuries and then you know quarterback injuries and then front seven injuries in the time he never worked out it's probably not going to work out there but i don't he did what he was hired for so it's a by the way we interred nick daniel did this a job. Yes.

Like, no one's going to want to agree with us on that thing when he gets fired. He did the job. That's, he was hired to maximize the quarterback position. And then he maximized the quarterback position. It didn't work out long term. Yeah. Now, it's all going to, like they've missed

on some draft picks. The offensive line never got very good. Tyreek Hills out. Like, they got really unlucky two years ago when they were the hottest team in football for three months out of the season, then everybody who could rush the pass or got injured. McDaniel, to me, will probably get fired. He'll go be an O.C. somewhere.

And I think he's going to genuinely be a great head coach a second time around. With a stronger GM, different environment, I think he can be a great head coach. So on the play calling front of all of this stuff, is it then possible to be able to pull this off. Like, is McDermott an example that you don't need these, these quarterback mittens, you know, on every single decision because of what's happened with Josh Allen. It feels like Harbaugh and Lamar is a little bit different because, like, Harbaugh's just been there so long and they really do prioritize, like, who they bring in is the O.C. And they're even willing to, though something's working, you know, making the switch to monkey.

in and realizing, like, we've got to be a little bit different. There's another level that we need to go to here. I'm just wondering, does it work anymore? Like, would an owner, even if you had a top pick, go, I know this doesn't make any sense, but I want a defensive-minded head coach and then we'll figure out the development side because I don't know that anybody's going to do that anymore. It's really hard to figure out, first of all, owners are really weird, and owners just based their decisions off, like, what happened last month, right?

So they don't exactly take, like, a 10-year review. And typically, owners just hire the opposite of whoever they just fired. So that's part of it. And so, like, I promise you, when Miami fires Mike McDaniel, they're going to hire a leader of men, defensive coach. Baseball manager. Yeah, baseball manager. They're going to hire, who's a good baseball manager?

The guy who just retired in Atlanta, we're going to hire that guy. Brian Snicker, said his name? Yeah. Yeah, he got to, I saw that game a truck. That's the kind of guy. That's the kind of guy that the dolphins are higher, a guy who has a going way of present gets a truck. And so I think that I think there's a model there.

I mean, what you want is Vic Fangio. And what's funny is a couple of years ago there was a player. I won't, I don't, I don't think he wants me to share this. But the player came and visited Bill and I. And so as far as keeping it. Anthony Brown, right? a player probably wants to remain anonymous but he came and visited the ringer and we're talking and he had played for Fangio at one point and so and Fanjo was getting

head coaching buzz at this point is before he was head coach in Denver and we said hey where would he be a fit and the guy was like dude I think that a Fangio is eventually going to be a reluctant head coach like I think he just wants to coach his guys and he wants to scheme it up and he just wants to like be a captain of a pirate ship right like he wants to just feel that way and then you become a head coach and all of a sudden you're worried about special teams you're worried about all of these things you're worried about the quarterback's mindset and i think those guys were wired like that so you got to find the offensive vicangio the problem is as you said that's really few and far between and you have to get fired like chip kelly in a lot of cases uh and i also

think that it's really hard to be have such an ego that you want to be an NFL coach and then not want to be a head coach right like if you don't have an ego if you're truly like a humble servant you're probably coaching at Beaufort high school in Georgia you know you're probably just like I'm good I'm making 92,000 dollars I got my family you know God family football I'm good I don't mean anything else I got my truck just like Brian Snicker and we're good and so I I think it'd be really hard to say, let's do the college thing, which is like the super staff. It'd be really hard unless you godfather offer it, which I don't know, I don't know which owners can be the first one to do that, but somebody should.

I don't know when, well, we'll see. But, you know, when I was going through all the play callers today and then I was trying to figure out, okay, which teams are defensive-minded from the top down, don't prioritize like play calling and yet still have great quarterback production. And look, there's still a few of them. And I'm glad you brought up Steichen, which is back to the offensive side of things. Because when I talked to Ted Wynn from the athletic, when he went through and was asking defensive coaches like who the best play callers were, like Stuyken was getting love in that

piece. He wasn't ranked in the top five. But I just loved that it was a non-results answer. Because the easiest thing in the world is to go, are you kidding me? I'm supposed to put in Shane Steichen after what just happened at the quarterback position. It's like, well, they're trying to figure out if. they have a guy that they spent this really high pick on in Anthony Richardson, and that probably has way more to do with it. And yet the people that were willing to make that, like, hey, I know

this sounds crazy, but we think Stuygens actually really good going up against him over the years, certainly not in 24. And then to have the Daniel Jones part of it, because the other lesson that we're learning here is I went through and did like the 20 years of first round quarterbacks that were traded. And it was like a non-Matthew Stafford trade. Clearly, the receiving team wanted him and it worked. But all these other first round guys that basically it's like, yeah, we're done with you. And then they go to the next place. It was like, oh, forever of teams winning a playoff game with the new first rounder. And now it's happening. It's been Baker, you know, maybe not in the playoff win being the standard for

everybody, but what we've seen with Donald, what we've seen with Daniel Jones. And again, it was another piece of the Mac Jones story from last night. Kevin O'Connell, is obsessed with the quarterback journey and we talked about a little bit on my show at the owner's meeting of March and he basically says his theory is that franchises fail quarterbacks rather than quarterbacks fail like there's always a couple of traits

you can accentuate and I kind of feel like the league is hopefully starting to learn that a little bit because we give up on guys too early like Anthony Richardson two things can be true at once Anthony Richardson was failed by the Colts but they were correct to move on from him Does that make sense?

Sure. They drafted him, and his fatal flaw was he simply hadn't played enough football. He gets hurt his rookie year. He does a stupid thing his second year, which is taps out of a game, shouldn't have done that. That's a really easy way to lose locker room. But then you're saying in year three, well, he hasn't proven himself. Well, the issue is you needed to give him a long runway. If you were going to draft him and give him that short leash, you're going to end up with a bust on your hands.

And so I want to see Anthony Richardson in a different environment where they let them take a ton of practice. I don't know where that would be. Throw them in Pittsburgh or something like that and just see what happens. This is next year now. But the quarterback journey to me is really fascinating because you have all these play callers now who pride themselves on being able to do this with anybody. And that's the one thing. If you get six Bud Light Limes in these guys and say, hey, you know, how many guys? Have a deal with Bud Light Lime?

I do not. Do they even make it anymore? Not to be dismissive. We'll get IT on that. I interrupted you. I've never had a Bud Light Lound in my life. It was just a joke from, it was a McVeigh joke from six years ago.

I don't even know why I picked that. I don't think he likes Bud Light Line. I laugh. I don't know. It went viral. It worked. All right. So,

yeah, that's how it goes. All right. So I think that there's so many of these play callers who think they can do this with anybody. Like a lot of these guys, think they can do it with their backup. That's why it's funny to me that the default

is signing these guys for $60 million because no coach has ever been like, actually, let this guy go because I can spam play action with the backup for $9 million and it's going to be totally fine. I've never seen that before. This episode is brought to you by Hulu. Glenn Powell is

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Plus for bundle subscribers. Terms apply. Let's talk about this week. Philadelphia. There was a headline on ESPN.com that I saw this morning. It was like, is Philly the worst forno team of all time? That's unbelievable. well look it was i clicked worked on me you clicked yeah and they're not the answer okay they're not

they're not uh was that carolina team from a bunch of years ago um just more bad news for carolina even when you're good we're going back and relitigating whether or not you were good or not so it's it's the seventh worst forno team of all time some of the traditional passing stuff not great 31st in yards the EPA per pass stuff a little bit better but that's only because it's not

31st it's saying that bottom third quadrant which doesn't make any sense that sentence bottom third quadrant but I just wanted to let the people know that we're going to be on that

and be like you know that doesn't make any sense I'm aware as I said it so they're going up against this Denver team that there's so many things about this team that I really like and it doesn't start with their quarterback. So their past rush is incredible. They've got two of the best tackles in football.

They win against the past rush. So look, Philly deserves the benefit of the doubt, but it's crazy. They're 4-0. And I don't blame any of us for talking about them the way we're talking about them. I did it with Sheal on Monday. I'm like, yeah, 4-0, but this is weird. But I still think being able to come back against the Rams

and then putting up that kind of score on Tampa before Tampa gets it to a one-scorer. game later is probably more indicative of who this team is obviously because I'm giving um I'm deferring to the talent on the roster yeah the talent on the roster is all the matter it's almost like college where nothing matters except a one roster versus the other and the talent differentiation just reveals itself and I'm looking at this and I'm saying okay Jordan Davis is improved Jalen carter's a dog Jalick's Hunt who's leading the team in pressures like he so hunt told me this story so he was raw coming out of college raw raw raw and he had some great numbers at the combine and they taught him how to play football and so hunt told me the story that in training camp he tried like a chop move on lane

johnson and lane just threw him and then he literally on during the play apologized to lane johnson for like trying to beat him like it was such a thorough drubbing that he was like uh that's on me I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, sir. And then by, I asked him, like, have you beaten Lane since? He was like, yeah, like week 12 over week 13, we were doing some stuff and I was able to get past him. And that, to me, that's literally development, right?

That's how you develop players. And in a league where I think that development gets mailed in a lot, I don't think the Eagles take it for granted. And I think that they're so good at harnessing athleticism. They have such a rigid system and when to take their chances with fly and traits and say hey if this guy develops that's great if he doesn't it's just such a low investment that we're okay with it like i i just think they're they're operating in all cylinders right now and if you're around it you feel it like when you go to philly everything is thought

out everything um you know it's a mixture of analytics and gut and all that stuff and also just like guys who want to win like that that that that that's the biggest thing like i remember uh well i don't this is such a i can't believe in but tell the story i was reading one time that walt weiss met greg popovich and uh as one does and was like give me some advice and pop was like i probably blowing him off and was like just get guys who want to win and everything else just takes care of itself and i think about that a lot where it's like i don't know jalen hurts it seems like and i don't want to do the the jelan hurts where he ranks stuff because that has just gotten so like i

shield him just like you i'd shield on my show last month and he like refuses to do it like because if you rank him sixth they get killed if you rank him 12th you get killed like he's just in a different universe but i think that there's not a lot of grace extended to jalen hurts for winning and i think that there's a bunch of guys in this league where when they get one yard beyond the sticks on a huge third down not using the touch push just a scramble that we go oh my god he's doing just no, oh, he's grinding out. He's not completing passes, but he's doing just enough to win, that they get to be winner guy, and Jalen Hurts has to be something else.

And so I think that the fact that they're, what's funny to me is, and this happened a couple years ago, didn't Jason Kelsey say when they were nine and one, that they were like the most miserable team on earth? It's funny to me that the Eagles are such winners that we keep qualifying their successes and saying, oh, are they the most miserable team ever? Are they the worst 4-0 team ever?

When are they getting completed past in the second half? These are problems that 25 franchises would kill the half. And it goes back to something that Jimmy Johnson said to Bill Belichick and Seth Wickersham's book, which is that if you just do what you're supposed to do, 24 out of the 30 teams, this was in the early 90s, we'll just get out of your way. And what the Eagles do a great job of is never being one of the teams that get out of your way. They're always the six who are waiting for you to make the mistake.

And it's a little bit patriotish to me where during the Belichick years, like they exposed, they're so competent they would expose your incompetence. And there's a skill in that. That's really well said. By the way, your whole point on this guy's a gamer, that's why I was not raving about Jackson Dart the Monday after. I know it was his first start, but I was like, I'm not falling for this stuff. I try to tell people, I was like, don't play the result where it's like,

I was doing a little of this, he's doing a little of that. You're just like, yeah, I don't know, three short fields. Okay, it was this first start, though. That's why we're giving a pass here. Good for him. All right. Houston and the Ravens. Ravens on this one historically.

The Ravens injury report is so bad that I was looking at it this morning. I saw Hamilton was even on it now. Yeah, but he finished the KC game on top of all the other guys that didn't finish. Houston's new offensive line looks a lot like the previous offensive line but I don't care about the defensive numbers. At this point

all I care about is the health part of it. There's not one Baltimore statistic a month in that's interesting to me because I don't think that's who they are and I think their schedule is just that brutal. So I'd expect them to put on some kind of like statement game here five games

in to remind everybody but I don't know what to do with them with the health. First of all, I think these are the two worst tackling teams in football, which should not be happening. So take the over. I think that the Ravens, you say that you don't think this is who the Ravens are. What's interesting to me is last year they were not perfect on defense. They made an adjustment to how Hamilton is deployed to the deep safety role, and then they became the best defense in football for the rest of the year. The big question for them on the defense is, is there a move to make?

Is there a move? A, we're not doing this enough. I thought Malachi Stark's being drafted I thought he was a winner I thought that he was an awesome athlete and I thought he was going to free up Kyle Hamilton to be one of the best players in football and that might be true but so many of the things

have devolved that you can't notice or he can't impact the game they're not stopping the run Roquan Smith is regressed quite a bit and they can't tackle and when you do that and you can't most importantly you can't rush the passer if you can't rush the passer you're screwed like that

and then Madabique's got the the neck injury that sounds extremely serious is out for the year. They're just not getting to the quarterback. And so everything else is flowing from there that the Jay Alexander signing hasn't gone well. I picked this team to win the Super Bowl. And I've been really disappointed. And I guess

when you say, you don't think this is who they are, I don't know what's going to change. Because they're getting more injured and their flaws seem to be personnel, which scares me more than, A, which is make Kyle Hamilton a deeper safety. so Texans I got a lot of concerns about them too

the offensive line as you said their fatal flaw was that they thought that different names meant better names and I thought the protection schemes last year were bad I thought CJ Stroud having more ownership with the line of scrimmage was going to be a good thing I just haven't seen that much of a different team and we always underrate offensive lines because I was like I did a show right before the season And I had this little panic, like, all right, they could be a Texans could be a top five defense.

The Texans could have top five, you know, quarterback skill guys. If everything goes right, the fatal flaw is they need or the, the only thing they need to do is have mediocre offensive line play. Well, they're not going to get it. They haven't gotten that. And so I don't know, I'm like, Lakin Tomlinson. Like, Lakin, that's your move? I think he's like to bottom five and pressure rate allowed. Like, I just don't know.

By the way, C.J. Stroud, I don't know if he's holding on the ball too long or whatever, he takes violent hits. That's what worry. If I'm Nick Asario, that's what worries me the most is like he's taking these hits that are just brutal. And something's got to change or else you're getting into this territory of, of you're going to look back and say, oh, my God, we ruin this guy. The only thing I can hang on to is like holding out hope for Baltimore. more. And sure, Lamar's ability is, you know, hey, probably starts there, right? But the second observation would be much like last year with the turnaround, I felt like had as much to do with

schedule as scheme. The fact, they've already played Kansas City. They've already played Detroit. They have the disastrous opening night against Buffalo. But yeah, right, until I stopped feeling better about the depth chart, especially on the defensive side of the football, I still would be shocked. And by the way, great number on the totals here. Every Houston game that they've been in this year has gone under every Baltimore game they've been in has gone over. Two more games that I want to touch on and then we'll let you get to what you really care about. McDonnell with Seattle, the head coach said that their in-house analytics, and I'm paraphrasing here, said Baker's like the best quarterback in the NFL on extended plays. And I don't think that's a surprise, maybe to

Anybody that's watched, you know, maybe being the best is a little surprising, but he's just good at keeping things alive and he's just such a gamer and, you know, all this stuff. I think Lamar probably would be the first guy that you would think of, but I don't know what the stats are for 25, so maybe that's misleading. Josh Allen, probably in that conversation as well, but has Tampa done enough the first few weeks in because they've been down in every one of these games and there's not a point differential argument for him, but it just always felt like with the Bucks is that they were an afterthought to the class of the NFC.

Have they done anything that changes your mind on their ceiling? Well, Justin Worf's probably the best player's been out, and they've been really scrambling along the offensive line. And so the fact that they were able to steal wins, it's a little bit like the Eagles thing. The fact that they were able to, Ruiz was on my show this week, and we were arguing, and I was like, you know, is it a good or a bad thing that they were the first team in history

to win three games in a row? to start the season on the last play of the game i think that's a good thing are you like especially in the nfc south when it's not going to i'm not i'm not exactly seeing an 85 bears anywhere in that division right and so i think that the bucks jason light's one of the best jams in football um they've got talent everywhere everything what what what i love about the bucks and one of the reasons that i i picked them to make the playoffs every year is like there's the old billy by billy bean line if you have to do something you're screwed the bucks never, and this is, again, very Halle-Rosman-ish, they never draft for need, like ever.

Like, Ibuka, no one was like, oh, my God, the bucks have to worry about the receiver room. Nobody said that, but they said, we're going to draft best player available. Exact same thing for the Eagles. And what happens a lot of times is not a Nikiel Harry selection. Not a Nikol-Haree selection, that's correct. I mean, I really do believe that if you look at Belichick's draft, especially in the last four or five years he was there, It was just to plug holes. He was using the draft to plug holes,

which Howie and which he wasn't doing at the beginning. And Howie and Jason Light have decided that their talent base is so high and they have so many veterans on significant contracts who are doing their job effectively that they can draft for best player available. And it's not pretty. And a lot of times everybody says they want to draft on best player available, but nobody wants to actually do it because it's ugly, right? Like there's the Paul Deepa Desta line about how ownership,

the best owners the way he describes ownership is your kid wants to go on a roller coaster and then it starts to get scary and they scream I want to get off right and the best owners never scream I want to get off they want to ride the roller coaster the entire time and I think that that's important

because sometimes when your drafting strategy is best player available it doesn't look pretty in the moment because you're saying oh what are we going to do a linebacker or what are we going to do about wide receiver like it doesn't that's not how how a good GM works and jason and jason light and howly rose and both run their organization like they're going to run it for 100 years and that's how you compete for super bowl's yeah i said it before like the process is the best example everybody comes in

ownership's on the same page hinky's going to just tank in a way that we've met just unapologetic about it never explain it and then everybody's going to go this is he's got six g league guys plan right now. And so whether it's the stuff we were talking about in the beginning with, all right, we're going to make sure this quarterback gets all sorts of runway. And it's like, yep, we're two and eight in year two. Yeah.

You know, and the backup's got a Super Bowl and he's 35 years old and has a podcast. People, it does a pretty good numbers. It's more of like a local show. But there's just everyone who, It wants to map out these beautiful plans. They're so easy to live with when you're just looking at the plan

and then not living it all the time. You got anything on Washington and the Chargers? Because I'm worried about Herbert. The pressure rate numbers that I were looking at, he's back at 27% pressure rate on dropbacks. 28% was his career high. That was his rookie year. Some of that stuff can be on you.

Alt is out. Beckton looks like he could be out too. For Sean Say it's been out of year. Yeah, right, right. I didn't count him anymore. And this Giants front, which I think I weekly remind everybody how much I like, although it's a really weird front to like because the pressure stuff that they were getting against the charges was incredible. And yet they're so bad against the run, the yard for carry stuff. So I was like, all right, maybe dial back.

Like you should just say, I really like their past rush part of the front here. Washington's a, it's not like that group. you're like, oh my God, I'm really scared. But considering what's happening on this O-Line and what Harbaugh wants to do, a team that everybody was excited about, that opening night, Chiefs win, the Denver game. There's a lot of stuff where it felt like maybe the public was coming around in Herbert a little bit more because he just gets, it's just back in force with this guy the way he's talked about. These are alarming trends here.

It's really hard to be a great team. And I thought the Chargers could have been a great team. it's really hard with a bad offensive line and with backup offensive linemen. At some point you just run out of him and run out bodies and Justin Herbert gets the crap knocked out of him. I will say, now that I'm a Cam Ward truther,

I know how the Herbert truthers feel. Like now that I'm like, if you put Cam Ward on 20 teams, he's gonna run away with rookie year. Now that I'm that guy, I feel so much more context and empathy with the Herbert situation. No, it's unfortunate.

And I think Jim Harbaugh is an amazing coach. I think Justin Herbert's an amazing coach. quarterback it's probably just not going to happen this year because of the pressure rate it's just too high and i don't know where you're going to get these bodies from these by the way there's not enough bodies for offensive lines in august and then now you're not going to find one off the street yes three at this level like alt is just hey we're good for a decade now that's how good he is yes now now who knows i mean with him i think the injury report was doubtful with the angle so it yeah yeah it's not and the commanders i was a little worry about their defense

last week. We'll see once Jaden Daniels gets back. It's been fine. I'm not, I'm not ready to hit the panic button. You lose Jane Daniels for two weeks. He's the guy that props open the championship window and all that stuff. So I was disappointed yesterday, or sorry, last week with the Falcons, but I think

they'll probably win this game. Last thing. I know you love your canes. Give me kind of like going into October 24 kev versus 25 kev. Well, 24 Kav had seen the Virginia Tech game when the holes in Miami's defense had been exposed.

And so I knew that it was going to be a wild ride. And I thought they were going to lose one of the stupid games on the road. I know they were always going to lose a game like Syracuse, but I thought it was actually going to be Louisville, where you're just trading touchdowns and then time expires. I think that if you follow recruiting patterns, I do quite a bit, like, this is all right on time. College football is a very efficient sport, Ryan, where if a bunch of guys are after somebody, like, if Kirby and Kalin DeBoer and Brian Kelly are all after the same guy, they're usually one of the best players in the world. And Miami's in on those guys now.

And Miami's getting some of those guys now. And that wasn't the case under Mena Diaz and Mark Richt and Al Golden. It just wasn't that level. It hasn't been that level. I mean, Koker was getting five stars, but it wasn't even like it was the wrong five stars. It's since Butch Davis, they haven't had this level of, talent acquisition. Now, you know, I think it's a weird college football now is a year-to-year sport with the portal.

And I don't think national media is necessarily reckoned with it. But I'm feeling, I'm feeling decent. And I think that the fact that there are no dominant quarterbacks this year is going to help Miami because they're going to be ground and pound and, you know, a bunch sets and running mesh a bunch and probably winning every game by scoring 27 to 28 points. But I don't think, I don't think they're going to play, you know, Texas. which has probably the best roster in the sport, or Ohio State or Alabama,

I don't think they're going to put up 45 points in the playoffs. I don't. So I think that Miami has as good as chance as anybody to win to win the national championship. They're picking them eyes soon this weekend. I am. You know, it's funny. So when I was a kid, I was watching a college basketball game,

and one of the color guys, it was like, you know, Kentucky struggling with somebody on the road. And one of the guys said, John Wooden always said it's never, there's no such thing is an upset when it's, conference game on the road and i've thought about that for 30 years but now i can't find any evidence of john wooden having said it so now it's just mine now i'm just what i say so uh wooden's out of the picture um so i did that with bill walton because i remember i'd asked i was very very early days

espn it was some weekend shift and i asked bill walton if you thought any NBA players listened to the dead before the game or something like that and i was trying to be like how do i get to bill walton quote out of him you know I was just trying right it's trying yes 30 and uh he was like it's not what inspires us it's that we have the ability to be inspired and I was like oh and so I was like man that's a really good quote from bill wall and by the way the interview went so off the rails and with our time restrictions for radio back in the day especially then with like a clock that would cut you off a certain point I was like who two questions by the way I think went 14 minutes, segments were nine minutes, and the guy behind the glass was like, we can't run

that. Riscilla, wait, Rissila did a Bill Walton thing where he spoke for 34, 34 minutes when all Brian asked was, how did you meet David Halberstom? And he just spoke for 34 minutes. That would not have worked on radio. That would doubt have worked on his video. No, that may have been the birth of podcasting. It's just like the people in tech

We're like, we've got to figure out a way To get these Bill Walton interviews up Like there's nothing that we can do Radio cannot contain this man So maybe that's how podcasts were even invented But yeah, I was kind of like, all right, cool Because Bill was really nice, he would walk around ESPN And I'd say, hey, do you ever get any shots up anymore?

He's like, I just enjoy writing my bicycle And he'd have a huge smile And he meant it. He wasn't bullshit, you know? There might be some other famous guys it would walk through ESPN and be like, eh, put on a smile, play the game, whatever. Bill was genuinely so sincere and so nice to every single person. Hey, not the same subject, but how are you view in Miami?

I just want to know your thoughts. I thought that game against Florida was a war. And even though... Yeah, yeah. That's why, you know, I'm kind of like holding out hope for... Like, there's the watching part of me can get in the way. sometimes where sometimes if I watch too many, well, I don't want to frame it that way. There can be times where a game that's lost, you know, in the general consciousness of all

the viewing on Saturday, everybody was watching that Florida Miami game. So that wasn't like some like, oh man, you caught UTEPs. You know about UTEP secondary because it doesn't really do anything for me. So I'm not going to watch UTEP secondary. But that Florida performance like wonders. if this is going to be a sneaky spot for Texas, you know, or it is just Texas. I agree. I actually picked earlier on this weekend against Pamp bet the line was six and a half

and I actually picked Florida. I just, I thought Miami was violent in that game. And so even though they weren't scoring and there was technically the spot where Beck throws the pick and you're like, is Florida actually going to find a way to steal this one, which would have felt completely wrong. Because the way I watch football games is like everybody else, but then I'll, I'll have some moments that really are about doing the show. So I'll

think to myself, like, who should have won this game? Like, who is in control more often? Not that I think game control should be something with the playoff committee necessarily, you know, banks decisions on there. But Florida was clearly the better football team, despite the score being so strange, but I just,

what's that? You said Florida was a better football team. Yeah. Well, no, that's not. Miami's better. I'm kidding. You're right. Miami was clearly the better football team. I misspoke. But the violence, the pressure, the edge guys, and like NFL edge guys that, you know, for Miami for years, you just, even when they stunk, they're like, all right, well, that guy's a first rounder. Yeah.

And I don't, I don't know what the gap. I mean, is it Rousseau? Like, I'm just trying to think of like how many Miami badasses. Joe and Phillips. Yeah, right. Greg Rousseau. Yeah, they haven't been a lot. They didn't recruit.

They didn't take football seriously because for 25 years, it was really easy to not spend any money and have no resources and win national championships. Then college football changes Rusillo, and they go, ah, it was still easy for us. And all of a sudden, you've got Al Golden. And then Urban Myers coming in and taking whoever he wants from Broward County. And Jimbo Fisher is coming into Miami Central High School. And Nick Saban is a living, an American heritage in St. Thomas Aquinas.

And we're going, what if we fought this with Manny Diaz? Didn't work. You follow the recruiting. You're on it. It's easy. to easy to pick follow the it's easy to predict the sport when you follow the talent acquisition patterns this is football host kevin clark from ESPN and uh we do have them on the show and i know i got a little aggressive on the zach taylor conversation so i apologize for that well i actually think

it is a funny line for him like oh it's a hit because he made the super bowl it sounds that's where that's where i knew because i knew you were going to do it too yeah so i was like ready and i i didn't I felt like I came after you, but I was more about the concept and not personal, if that makes sense. It reminds me of when I got, I had been baiting them all. I used to do a Sunday show with Soak and Ruiz, and I was baiting them. They hated the Titans team that won, that got the one seed a few years ago, the Rable Titans team. And I was just backing them into a corner all season for them to say wins are not a team stat. And they finally did it.

They finally did it. The wins are not a, a predictive stat. They basically decided wins don't matter anymore because they hated the Titans team so much. So you basically did that with me. The Super Bowl, I had to throw it out to say Zach Taylor is not that good. I also did not like that Titans team. And I did a segment calling him the worst one seed. And then I went through all of it and the whole thing.

And then Titans, you want to talk about local news coming after a guy. I had people in weather tweeting at me that were upset in Tennessee. And then I forget what happened. I think they went on a pretty deep run that year, didn't they? They lost to the Cincinnati Bengals in the first game. If I'm mistaken. Oops. Take that.

How's the weather in Nashville now, boys? Yeah. Something gloomy coming this way? Thank you, Kevin. Thank you, buddy. Before we get to life advice, let's check out sportsbook.fandle.com, the alliance marches on, even without Sir Rudy. I did not answer a text last night about this.

but we were able to figure it out. We're just going to do it with three picks. No Sir Rudy, who is not with us. Didn't die. He's just off today. All right. So. Have it at a time.

Yeah. I've got a couple of picks here. If you want to do one, you could do two picks. I don't care, Kyle. Also, if you want to check out some future spreads, because I was messing around with that this morning, Ohio State's minus six and a half against Michigan. So you can bet that game. That takes place November 29th right now.

You can also bet Michigan at SC, it's going to take place in a couple weeks. But right now, we're worried about trying to give back to three and oh and be a winner back to back weeks for the alliance fans out there which we know there's a ton we get we uh some crop top ponchos it's sort of like a lot of american theme that we are back ordered so i don't know if we're going to get them in time but you know what I'm talking about those are two words I haven't really heard together ever crop top ponchos but uh maybe maybe I'll fire up Google search after this yeah I'll send you a link all right what do you got uh all right on the fly here.

I was getting a haircut yesterday, not that anyone said anything. And there was a guy who, thank you. He played one year at Minnesota. This is Ohio State. I don't know. I thought that was a sign.

It doesn't feel like a sign anymore. Shout out to Kevin Clark. I'm going to take Miami. Not minus four and a half. I'm just going to take the money line. That's minus 180. I think they will beat Florida State. Minus 180.

Okay. All right. That's cool. All right. Let's stay on the the Florida talk Fleeke and I talked about it Clark and I talked about it

I mean and now it's only plus four and a half at home against Texas but we'll plug that one in so can you plug this all in on the fly here I think I can yeah all right and then the other one we'll go with Felica's pick Purdue

who is that's right he gave us for yeah he really likes Purdue at home against number 23 Illinois plus nine and a half Purdue sneaky sneaky He's scoring some points out there, boiler maker country. So what is the payout for those three legs?

You'll get plus 477 if you put that in right now. That's exactly what we're hoping to do. That's the range. You can check it out. Yeah, you can check it out in those future bets as well and all sorts of stuff from their buffet of entertainment. Sports Bay. Sports bay.

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from office supplies to IT essentials and maintenance tools now let's get to it life advice email address life advice RR at gmail.com we only uh surrity free zone here today back like it's dual threat it is not like dual threat we used to end that with Chris Fowler trivia yeah didn't didn't really get that part but you never understood that no I mean I didn't get it back then but you know i've learned a lot more about you and and that whole space so do you want to give me uh some first impressions do you want to share now first impressions of you yeah i don't think this guy likes me but then i'm not sure he likes a lot of guys so i'm like maybe that maybe don't take it personal um on time i like i liked on time i was like this is great because i was doing i was doing

you and bill and bill was sort of like you know you're like a minute man you're just sort of ready to go and you were like we were pretty pretty uh pretty uh pretty regimented which was cool uh because like almost militaristic yeah yeah exactly yeah it's like not sure not sure if i should be joking with him or not like oh he actually he's a he's a guy who appreciates a joke so that it's just a lot a lot of feeling out going on uh anyway thanks thanks for sharing that you're welcome all right let's get to some emails what do we got here uh let's see Well, there's a Surrudi compliment here, so it's only right. We give it to him when he's not here because it seems like everything he gets is the opposite.

Yeah, so we'll save it. We'll save it from when he's here. Yeah. I just don't understand how anybody gets on his case. You know what's amazing about Surrudi? Kyle. Have you ever seen him mad? You know, I don't think so.

Yeah. I don't think so. He's always like this. But sometimes it's like, hey, what's going on in it? Right. Or do you, you're passionate. You're a lover. You know, there's range. So maybe maybe you're better. He's been disappointed one time. Like, I think I fucked something up. And he was just like on the phone like a lot of that. A lot of like the, man, it really, really sucks that that happened. You know, but I don't think it was ever mad. It was once where it was like that. Man, what a great guy. He's like there for me. He's there for me and he's sad for me. Also, I'm in trouble. You know what I mean? So that was. Yeah. It's really. the man. Yeah. All right. Here we go. Dating someone living in a rough area. Oh, wait, dating someone living in a rough area. Sorry. 29 years old, 510, 170, no gym stats, player cop Mario Chalmers, plays hard, can occasionally hit a big time three. It doesn't mind getting yelled that by LeBron

if it means winning two rings. They yelled at that guy a lot. Just got laid off after working for one of the biggest brands in the world for 10 years. While looking for new appointments, have some free time and reconnected with an old co-worker online that I wanted a few dates with a few years back, but just never went anywhere. She recently moved a little more than an hour away to a rough part of the state because her dad wanted to move closer to his job. While at first I didn't mind taking the drive, after picking her up last week and going to dinner, I realized how tough this is going to be since she doesn't drive. She never got a license nor has a car and just takes the bus everywhere. After dinner, we headed back to her place where we hung out and watched a movie. After

we were finished, she asked if I wanted to stay or leave, I ended up leaving because I didn't want to leave my car there overnight on the street. While leaving and walking in my car parked around the corner, I noticed a car parked two cars past mine. It was like it was just broken into because it definitely wasn't there a few hours ago. I felt very lucky it wasn't my car as I just got it a few months back, hopped in and dipped. I called on the way home to tell her what I saw. She said something along the line of, quote, yeah, that'll happen here or there, end quote. So I'm not only faced with the dilemma of driving over an hour every time to see her, I'm now afraid to hang out of her place because of stuff like this.

She also mentioned one of the convenience stores up the street was broken into and robbed last week. The only other thing would be to drive there, pick her up, drive her back to my place. And if she stays the night, drive her back in the morning or take or her take the bus closer to me. But that feels like it'll be a hassle for her. I do like her. Conversation always flows well, but this just might be a deal breaker. I don't hate driving, but driving back and forth like this seems like a lot. What do you guys think?

I hate driving. That would have been a deal break. I would have slowly faded out, you know? That's, but I mean, Los, I mean, Hollywood, even like, you know, decent parts of Hollywood where pretty much I've been the whole time, like, it's really not, it's not shocking when you see, you know,

the shattered glass on the ground. In the Crown Jewel even, Poughkeepsie. Not shocking either. So this wouldn't make me, like, worried about what's going to happen to me. This is a charger to the game thing. If you're going to park your car there overnight, at night is when the, you know, You know, the shady shit happens, you know, maybe, maybe you could look for a parking garage that's close, you know, in cities where cars get their window smashed, parking garages are a plenty.

So if you don't want to end this over that, I'd see, I'd try to Google Maps a parking garage and maybe it's a five-minute walk. But just the distance would be enough for me to be like, I don't really want to do this every time I want to see somebody. So, you know, I guess we're just different people. The guy was so worried about his car being broken into, he didn't spend, he didn't spend the night. yeah this is going to be in the back of your head all the time unless you figure out you know a safe spot for your car he's like i'm just not going to be able for him that's stuff going on i can't focus i want to when we do this i just want to be able to focus on you right now i'm thinking about my my deductible it's a great new restaurant open 30 minutes away i really think we should go

yeah meet in the middle i got to tell you if she's willing to get on a bus to meet you that's either the all-time keeper or she has no options right the fact that uber isn't a thought well it's expensive it is expensive that would get so all i could tell you is i don't care how much you like her you're already this upset about existing scenarios so imagine a couple months in and it's an hour there an hour back every time that you want to spend time with her and to pick her up thing and leave is even dumber than that one yeah um I don't know. I mean, look, if I park my car in Venice overnight, am I going to think about it? Sure. But if I like the girl, then I'm not going to just be like, hey, look, I don't like parking my car there.

So, I mean, clearly our emailer here has different reservations. They're triggered perhaps a little bit quicker. I'm not criticizing him necessarily, but some people worry about some stuff that other people don't really worry about it. And sometimes it's age or sometimes it's asset or sometimes it's, you know, it's just, I feel like when people get older. I don't know what that is. Sometimes I miss the young freedom of not ever thinking about any of those things. I'm parking in this loading zone. God damn it. There's nothing else that's close enough for me to feel good about where I'm parking this.

I'm parking in the loading zone. I want to know what kind of car this guy has. I really wish. It better be pretty sweet, right? Well, it's the other way. There's two ways of looking at it, right? It's just like, I really cannot afford anything else to happen to this Nissan Ultima. I just fucking can't.

I can't do it. Or, you know, fucking love that new Bronco. I got the big one, you know? Like, I, it's either, like, really nice. And he's like, he's constantly thinking about it where it's parked even in nicer neighborhoods. Like, nobody better park too close. Or he's like, I literally cannot have a trash bag window on top of all the other bullshit that's going on with this car. I think it's probably either one of those two ends of the spectrum.

I don't think it's in the middle. my guess is just a little particular about things so but if it's a Nissan Ultima then if you're parking in a bad but like I think it's kind of a still desirable car or maybe it was a long time ago maybe that was a Nissan Maxima and they were also easy to break into I think man I had a fucking trash bag window when I first moved here that sucked it really sucked man I remember reading an article about how it was actually like the manufacturer's fault that the cars are being broken into that much because they were so easy to break into and then hot wire And I was like, that's a pivot.

Right. What a Jedi mind trick. Our obsession with finding someone else who's obviously to blame. So, look, it's going to get, you're already annoyed by it and you haven't even started doing it. So, I mean, if she wants to take a bus to you and switch it up every now and then, fine. But I feel like you're in a low spot right now. I'll just be totally frank with it. You got laid off.

you may connect with her big time I'm also wondering like does she not have that many options to or are you that awesome maybe this guy's awesome I mean my head's all over the place with all of these things but I my

my gut reaction is that you're kind of like of all of our ups and downs through life you know going through some of the stuff that you're going through your bit of a down stretch maybe and you're trying to figure out like hey this could be companionship and you're like yeah history though he might have left something on the table there and he's like i got to see what

happens here i've always that's very true that could be like you know knowing at him so um i'd say check check for those parking garages and if some and if it's too far away then maybe maybe you don't do this but you know try one more thing to make you feel good about this yeah get a monthly rate won't hurt as much maybe what if she said i i'm totally down if you want to get me a bus pass check for am what's amtrak like over there do you guys have you guys have one of the big big rail lines or what okay uh we got a pretty straightforward one day one listener don't miss the show love everything y'all do five eleven 152 at my peak clara comp uh kentucky's reed shepherd just replaced the dunks with sick left-handed layoffs my off hand now it's just a lot of unguarded

free throws and mid-range jumpers shooting alone at the park. In the back of my mind, I truly believe I was in the right here, but I'm not a confrontational person. So this afternoon, oh, afternoon run has run in. All right. So I thought we were talking hoops, and then I thought he was going for a jog. Let's read that sentence again, Mark. So this afternoon's run-in has me reflecting back on it much more than anyone should.

I work in a busy business district in one of the largest cities in the U.S. Today for lunch, I ordered Chipotle via the app and even gave it an extra 10 minutes to ensure it would be ready when I went to pick it up. When I arrived slightly ahead of lunch rush, I order there weekly. My order was not ready on the to-go shelf. Uh-oh. The rush hadn't hit yet. And like any self-aware human being, I stepped back to give room for others checking for their orders.

Again, the rush had not hit yet. So I took a look around. A few minutes later, I saw Rob, name changed ish, walk in and stand directly in front of me. Things quickly got busier, and it was clear not the A-Team, working at Chipotle. With the orders, God, Chipotle gets so much reference on this pot. With orders only being brought out of someone approached the employee working, the station. Rob had somehow worked his way in front of me in line,

but was not looking to make a move for his order. Close to the front of the line, someone who had walked straight in and picked up immediately, picked up immediately left, and I took the chance to fill the space. When I gave the work of my name, I immediately heard aloud and Rob from behind me. He performed really scolded me about cutting the line.

waving his arms to get others around us on his side and even shuffle to make it difficult for me to leave the area. I was somewhat irked with his response and responded with something like, sorry, man, just trying to get out of here. I've been waiting longer than you. Was I in the wrong here? Rob seemed content passively waiting for his turn, but I was 30 minutes past pickup time. It was ready to eat and needed to head back to work. Thankfully, Rob had a company branded backpack on him. Upon returning to the office, I was quickly able to locate his LinkedIn profile. Turns out he's a U.S. representative. Nothing big to report. but thought an interesting conclusion of the story. What the fuck is up with you guys getting into it with Chipotle and then finding people on LinkedIn? Where's that going? So look, you were there early, but it happens, especially in a chaotic thing. I think one time I just straight up was getting cut in line

so much at the ESPN cafeteria. I then on Taco Tuesday costed somebody else for cutting me and he was like, dude, I was in line. And then I was pretty sure, I'm pretty sure he cut me. I'm still pretty sure he cut me. You were so rage blind. You're like, I don't know what actually happened.

But the way he delivered it was so, like, good. But there was just, like, a lot of different things that would happen to Eastman cafeteria. DePortez doesn't follow the rules. I don't know what it is. Those guys would just come in and fucking free for all. Well, I don't know. Like, the salad bar has usually one to maybe even two entrances, dependent on how it would be set up.

These guys would, like, start at fucking carrots in the middle. And then I'd be like, what are you? Anywhere there's a spot. Yeah, anywhere there's a spot. like that doesn't make any sense and so um it just kept happening over and over and over again and we would talk about like there's some people that come in and cut again it wasn't just for this um there are a lot of people that cut but i never forget that salad bar incident but then the taco one so yeah right like you you it sucks for you in this spot because this guy decided to be all

theatrical about it and by the way if he's a politician like add that to the equation of all of these things he's like we are you know like this is what I'm talking about folks this will not stand this is the change I'm talking about we're just all trying to eat on equal footing um but if you were there first and then you're getting yelled at when he kind of like works his way in

in the narcissistic way a politician would by the way um you know this this makes a lot of sense uh I just don't understand looking it up after the fact but again maybe it was that curiosity somebody gave me the finger yesterday in the street it's crazy how does it feel now than as it used to feel like you know i feel like the finger used to be like you know up with the c word it's like you can't do this that's like what it was drilled into my head maybe that's just like the folks i'm around now the finger's like i don't know it's definitely not that i don't know maybe it's me getting older maybe times

of changes but like the finger used to be like last resort it felt like but i don't know maybe driving is a different context it was a busy street but not a busy street in manhattan beach but it's the one that's busy kind of in and out on highland and i took a left of the light where if you don't get up there like no one was in the left lane but i i jump probably a couple car lengths up to get into that left lane to turn oh got to do it right which kind of everybody does like i try not to be egregious about it when i do it like some guys you'll just see get in the other lane and then floor it to get in front of any other oncoming traffic. I wouldn't do that, but it was,

it was like a car length and a half, two car lengths where I'm like, all right, the light's green, it's going to move a little. So let me just kind of get into this thing because then if you get stuck in the light and get stuck of the light. And it may have had to do with like a couple kids on these dirt bikes that are basically just dirt bikes, but they're e-bikes.

And you go one mile an hour under what the max is or something? No, I mean, And there's, I saw these two guys on these different motorcycles yesterday. There are supposedly e-bikes and there's no license plate on them whatsoever. And again, this is starting to sound old. But like, it's just way too fast for the walking area. Yeah.

And Manhattan. It's just, there's too many people walking down every single block to go into the beach and all these different beach entrances. It's not just funneled to one entrance where you have to kind of watch what you're doing. It's constant like cross traffic. And so there's one stretch where you can really let it get wide open where there aren't that many people walking but there's long stretches here in the south bay where you can't really just like let it go and you're a kid you don't give a fuck which i totally understand so i think it was because too i don't know if had anything to do with the kids and them thinking oh no like there's a

car coming the other way but then i'm immediately in that expanded left lane right there's nothing that's even close and i get a guy truck with a rack on it by the way yeah and he just gives me a big old meaty middle finger and like I saw it it was he was a pretty big guy and it was just meaty and he like really let me have it with the finger and I went you know I don't what was I gonna do I want to go home he was huge too all right so he's old older but that finger it's still like I'll never forget it because it was the silhouette yeah I don't know what he did I mean the thing had like scar tissue and ash maybe it's sewn back on but because he had a framers rack on the truck i was like oh i was like okay then i'm like i'm gonna you know because i envied

framer racks i you know i always wanted one um but i just didn't i didn't stay in the framing game long enough there isn't really much to add this email other than i just told that story so i think let me just get this off i think please yeah a if i think mobile orders and all in these pickup stations and the you order it yourself on the iPad. You're nailing it. Has screwed up all the sort of like common courtesy and where lines are supposed to be in restaurants, especially things that are a little bit small in the smaller end like Chipotle, go to like a little boba tea smoothie place where it's like there wasn't even

really enough room for one line. Now there's two. Listen, I think it's a little bit more of a free fraud when we're talking about mobile pickup. You get it. You know, we make it, you find it type of deal. I think you, A, in this situation, you have the karma on your side. side you could you know if you really wanted to you could have been like hey buddy take a look at this like i've been here do you see me when you walked in that's because i've been here you could

have done that glad you didn't were adults and i mean unless you're unless you're going to there's one spot where someone's taking orders and a guy's ready to order something you're like hey i'm here from door dash could i like you're shoving a phone in someone's face then you would have been in the wrong i think this mobile pickup nonsense it's a little bit wild west so you should You should have many reasons to think that you're in the right here. I think that's it. I think that's all I have. But especially with the mobile order thing, it's, you know, sort of like you can manipulate

stats to make your argument right, sort of like, you know, sort of like sports. So you're good. You're right. The pickup, but this is for actually delivery people. This is for civilians. But then if you come over here, something might not be right. You double check. I did it the other day.

Sometimes a business has been getting shit stolen, so they say that you can pick up your stuff from this rack, but you actually have to ask Todd, the guy in there, do you have it? And so if you're going to be sheepishly standing there, you might not get your thing. They're not going to actually put it there and yell out your name because they've got some shady folks in there, grabbing people's lunches. So, again, no rules. I think you can go to sleep at night knowing that you didn't do anything wrong. So there you go. It is really frustrating when you're already there first, but you're hanging. bat and then somebody kind of gets in front of you thinking that they're first in line and then

for them that same person start like a movement inside the Chipotle to cost you with his constituency well you might have to be posturing in there you know if you're if you're waiting and you need to be picked on or you want to you know Moses Malone would never have this happen to him right right I think that's fair to say yeah you got it sometimes you got to talk to people with your eyes when you're you know make eye contact with that guy as he's, you know, running around, filling pans of beans or whatever the fuck he's doing. You got to make sure you catch his eye. It's like a busy bar and a bartender.

You got to catch the employee's eye so he knows you need something. Or maybe, or, you know, a firm but not stern. Hey, or whatever. You got to make yourself seen in a place like that. All right. Good stuff. Thanks, Kyle. Yep.

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