The Ryen Russillo Show - Bengals Ceiling, Jayden’s Injury/Future & More NFL Week 2 w/ Nate Tice, Plus Lane Kiffin’s L at Ole Miss

Episode Date: September 21, 2026

Ryen talks NFL Week 2 with Nate Tice! The Vikings and Bengals impress, Mahomes’ deep ball is back, Jayden Daniels suffers another injury, and Marvin Harrison Jr. is trending toward becoming one of the biggest busts ever. Then, Ryen gives his thoughts on Lane Kiffin’s return to Ole Miss and why that was the outcome you should have wanted. And finally, Kyle and Ceruti stop by for some listener-submitted Life Advice, including skipping a family funeral and a break-in follow-up. NFL WEEK 2 WITH NATE TICE (2:45) Vikings-Bears (17:35) Packers-Jets (19:40) Bengals-Texans (31:25) Chiefs-Colts (42:10) Broncos-Jags (53:45) Saints-Ravens (1:00:35) Trinidad Chambliss (1:05:30) Aaron Rodgers Is Bad (1:08:00) Marvin Harrison Jr. Trending Bust (1:14:10) Browns & Chiefs Draft Classes (1:15:40) Jayden Daniels (1:20:45) Carly Irsay on the Sidelines LANE RETURNS TO OLE MISS (1:26:25) LIFE ADVICE (1:35:30) _ _ _ _ _ GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER or 1-800-MY-RESET, [phone] or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). Wagering offered by DK Sportsbook: 21+. Present in most states. (18+ DC/NH/PR/WY). Void in CAN. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino (KS). Pass-thru of per wager tax may apply in IL. Event Trading offered by DraftKings Predictions, CFTC-registered: 18+. Trading involves risk of loss. Market availability varies. General: 1 per new DraftKings customer. Trade $5 get $150 Prediction Dollars (1-year expiry) or bet $5 get $10 in Bonus Bets (7-day expiry and stake removed from payout). Rewards issued in $50 increments every 7 days via click-to-claim for 14 days. Click-to-claims expire 7 days after issuance. Rewards are non-withdrawable. 7 days = 168hrs. Predictions offer void in NY. Terms: dkng.co/offer. Ends 10/18/26 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. _ _ _ _ _ Raising Cane’s Chicken Fingers. One Love. _ _ _ _ _ Reese’s. The Official Candy Partner of Barstool Sports. Go Get Reese’s Wherever You Shop _ _ _ _ _

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It was terrific. Let's start with Minnesota's win against Chicago's offense, which did not look like it was going to break any records. The headline, Caleb Williams, goes down with the hamstring thing. I don't know if you get a chance to listen to Greg Olson with me last week. Okay. So I don't expect everybody to listen to everything that I'm doing here, but to share it with you, which the audience to hear you listen to Greg talk about it. He goes, you know, the stuff

with Brian Flores. I was like, really tell me what the hell's going on. And he said it perfectly. He's like, he pitches backwards. Normally when you pitch, you throw the fastball to set up everything else. In this case, the analogy would be, imagine just throwing all your breaking stuff to finish with the fastball, although from

a direct comp of it, it's that Flores starts with everybody in the line of scrimmage, so that would actually kind of be your fastball, but I'm not going to get bogged down and what that actually really means. But everybody's playing kind of top down. Everybody zone, cloud, quarters, let's just make sure everything's in front of us and then we'll figure it out there. And instead, they're just stacking the line of scrimmage, making your offensive line have to guess, making your quarterback have to guess. And it worked.

It worked all afternoon. I would say if Caleb doesn't get hurt, I think Chicago still pulls this football game out because they'd solve some stuff with the run game. Ben Johnson's gone up against him a million times. But first and foremost, let's start with Flores and the fact that the Vikings win games, even when they get. awful quarterback play because of what they do on defense. Yep. And they figured out the run game a little bit, at least to keep them alive. But no, that's, it is like a great analogy.

Like I, I've called Brian Flores like Phil Necro. Like, you know, he's a knuckle baller. Like it's like, oh, all right, all right. Here. Oh, shoot. You know, and you're just like, oh, you're always out of balance. And Flores is trying to win. He's turned early downs, first and second down into passing downs.

You know, he is trying to put you behind the sticks. He's throwing stuff that teams used. to only throw on third down or second and long. Now he's doing it on first and ten. Now he's doing it against run formations. And that's what it is. And he has a lot of blitzes and it's a defense with a lot of returning faces. Not just Harrison, Harrison Smith, but like everybody.

Like really, the two new faces are Caleb Banks and Dominique Orange. You know, other than that, though, it's a lot of returning guys. And a couple of they're missing too that are supposed to be like key contributors on top of everything else. Like just to remind you like this isn't even fully formed yet. Keep going. No. Yeah. And it's, it's really hard because it's a lot of, you know, I say it's older brother.

Like I'm not hitting you. I'm not hitting you. Oh, I hit you. You know, it's like a lot of like, you know, just getting on the flinch. And he's going to make you wrong. Like they and I can get into what the bears try to counter with. And this is why, you know, you saw Cole come at and Colson Love one blocking Dallas Turner is what he does is that those defenses. And it's not he invented it.

You know, a lot of defenses do it. But he just fully leaned into it as they read the slide of the protection. So if you are, like, they're going to make you wrong no matter what. If you are in a six-man protection, which is the most common drop-back protection, there is a center, a guard, a tackle working together and a half-slide. And then the other guard, the tackle, and the running back work onto the other side. That is the six-man. There's different versions depending on how the front works, where four-guise slide,

tackle and running back are together. And what he does is they're reading, when they're all mugged up, they're reading which way the slide's going. And so where the offensive line is working to, those guys drop. They hot drop, they call it. And then the other side is the ones actually blitzing. So then they have a numbers. So they don't.

I'm sorry, but like to stand, it's you said a hot drop in the same way a route would be the hot route. It's like whatever the initially designed route was now that you see that the blitz is behind you. So you have to cut everything off to a much shorter depth so that I can get the ball out too quicker. Whoever is on the line of scrimmage is deciding after the ball is snapped into the slide of whether or not they're going or dropping out. Yep. And, and, and the term hot drop is because they're taking away the hot route. That is, you know, there's two ways.

It was the Justin Herbert discussion last week. There's kind of two ways, you know, two rules of thought going against blitzing teams. It's either wadded up and protect it, get a hat on a hat, which is something I believe in. And then gash them, throw it down the field and say, hey, keep blitzing us. We're going to get 20 yards of pop. You might get us once or twice, but we're going to get 20 yards of pop or throw hot. And while now this defense takes away the likely hot throws, which are usually slants, crossers, quick out routes, and then on top of it, they'll run cover two.

So that's another change up off the blitz looks is that the quarterback is thinking he's heated up, but then they run cover two. And cover two is the safest coverage, quote unquote. And how to beat cover two is you have to throw deep digs, whole shots to the side, seam balls, and corner routes, what all those sound like deep down the field. So this is the Joe Burrow discussion. So the quarterback goes, oh, I'm heated up. But actually, then sometimes it's covered too.

It's like, oh, no, I'm not heated up. Oh, no, I got to read this out and find the deep route. And then maybe I'm wrong. And I am heated up and I have to get rid of it quickly. So he's doing the, he's min maxing. You know, he's doing a little bit of everything where he's either doing a one or a zero. And so they're reading that hot drop. So in a six-man protection, you're going to be wrong.

And a five-man protection, which is another way to get at, they're going to read the slide. And no matter what, that end man in the line of scrimmage is going to get there. So that's what the quarterback has to beat that guy that's on the end man on the line of scrimmage that's racing towards them. You see Dallas Turner a couple times just running Scott free because they're sliding to wad it up and that guy's hot. That guy's the hot guy for the quarterback. And then on top of it, what the bears try to do is they try to do they try full wadded up. And when I say that, they try to use a seven man slide.

So these are all the protections you can have three or five, six, seven. So a seven-man protection, there's ways to, if you see two backs in the back field, they can kind of like, you see the Patriots do do a lot. They're kind of the old school team. The Bengals would do this tight-in and running back and you try to sort it out. But they're trying to just do a full slide, which is a simple protection. But what the bears were saying is like, hey, we're not even trying to figure it out. We're just going to wad this up and hopefully Caleb makes us right with some downfield routes. But it becomes a numbers game.

If I'm wasting seven guys of protection, that's a tight-in or running back, I only have three routes. And if they drop seven into coverage, it's three versus seven. Very hard to win that way. You can find a couple throws, but that's why Caleb was running around a bunch because they're running a not a lot of guys in routes. They're covered when there isn't a blitz. So again, it's just a frustrating thing. It's either I'm throwing so much gas at you, you have to get rid of the ball quick,

or I'm not. And that's why I mean the Big Brother thing. So I'm not hitting you. I'm not hitting you. And then he hits you. But it's just, it's very, very hard, especially in a rain game like that, especially when they just manipulate and kind of know what you're trying to do. And what's funny is that that seven-man slide was the old-school way of how to try and beat that

Brian Flores kind of blitzes and teams got away from it. And now the bears have reverted all the way back to trying to like, hey, we're just wad this up and try and gash them down the field. And it's really, really hard to do. I remember, I think it was those early 2000s Rams teams. And it was the saying was, and I'm talking about their defense, not even their offense. It was 11 men to the football, right? And when it's working, and I remember the broadcaster,

because it was just this awesome thing where guys are flying all over the place. You just feel like no one's ever open. And the announcer, I didn't even know if it was mad. I mean, it was somebody of that stature. It was just like, man, when you see it like this, you kind of wonder, like, why doesn't everybody do 11 men of the football? And you're like, well, because if you start getting to play fakes and all the same stuff, like it could be a complete disaster.

And so when you watch what Flores is doing in the line of scrimmage and playing it backwards, as Olson describes it. The way you just described it, to me also tells you, like, you have to draft a very specific person on defense. You have to be able to draft somebody that's both a pass rusher, but can fake getting back into coverage long enough. And not asking them run 20 yards down the field, but like you've got to stay connected through those five or 10 yards.

And you have to be smart enough. All of those guys, the communication has to be elite. So when you're watching it, you're going, hey, why don't you do that? It's going to be a teaching component with Flores. It has to be an incredible scouting thing where they're like, we trust that this guy is not going to freelance. We trust that right as the snap happens, he's going to make the right decision more often than not. Because just as 11 men of the football, this could be an entire disaster for a defense trying to do this without the same kind of coaching. And that's why guys like Andrew Van Gankle, go badgers, is kind of like he stands out in this defense is because these guys are,

These guys are so reped in this. And again, they have so much experience. So the counters are already laid out. Okay, gash them down the field. Other counters that offenses try to use, like quick screens to receivers. But then if you ever notice, watch those Vikings edge rushers or outside linebackers or Harrison Smith, get their hands up. And so it's like then becomes a trick shot for the quarterback on a screen. So even screens, which are supposed to be the easy, hey, training wheels play, let's make it safe.

Now it become difficult. Like so it's a great, which was laying out is exactly right. They get these kind of hybrid guys, tweeners. If hybrid is complimentary, tweeners is derogatory. Dallas Turner isn't just a great edge guy. He's twitching and drop. Exactly. Right.

And he can get out. Yeah. Yeah, you got to get Van Ginkle's another example. The guy they even drafted from Cincinnati, Jake Galday, no one knew a position what he was. Is he a slot? Is he an edge? Is he an offball linebacker?

Perfect. We just had, he's a front seven player. Josh Mattelis, another player. He can just play in the slot. He can play in the box. He can blitz. He can drop. Their inside linebackers are unique players because they're really good pass rushers because

they get the knife down and go down the A gap of watch. So again, they're just well versed. And even on top of it is these blitzes, and you know, there's some Belichick here. Belichick did the hot drops. That was the seeing ghost game for Sam Darnel. Is that I just don't know which guy's dropping. I'm throwing hot. Now I'm throwing picks is they'll run cover zero.

And usually cover zero is man to man. Hey, Gash him, cover zero. It's one-on-ones everywhere. He just got to get the ball out. But then Flores has adapted his rules, and now it's almost a zero match where they're pattern matching on the back end. So they're not just playing man-to-man. They're passing off.

And he's turned cover zero, which used to be pure man into match coverages. And actually, in a later game we can get to is that's the Boe Nixon interception against the Jaguars, is they ran a more modern cover zero is because they were pattern matching. Jordan Lewis made a great play and fell off. But they're essentially bracketing and kind of in and outing each of these routes. And they know that the quarterback is heated up. So really, just they can kind of take chances and just know that, hey, hey, I can fall off on this. So it's a modern twist on some kind of like stuff that Belichick was doing and Flores.

And all these guys are just so well versed in it that they can drop so quickly. Because over time, there's the human element. Like, okay, oh, yeah, Gary Bradbury, these centers and they're taught all week, hey, don't give away what our protection slide is. yeah but in the fourth quarter he's tired and all of a sudden he just goes rip rip liz liz and tells the defense which slots the way they're sliding and pointing and the defense goes oh okay you know now I know which way to drop and and then there's other stuff where guys are doing fake points and stuff like that but you can see that kind of trip that's why it trickles down always against the Vikings yeah look this sport and the more and more I pay attention to that kind

of stuff is like it's just a simple motion right because of the human nature part of it or having somebody run inside of the actual number one option. You know, like there was a touchdown to the right corner of the end zone. I can't even remember which game it was, but all it was is they brought a tight end or a receiver inside of the outside receiver. Like he was outside of him, he motions inside of him, and he runs straight. And the linebacker who has to get that area to the left of him into the end zone, he just takes a simple step to stay with the guy that's running at him, that's the shortest.

And the next thing you know, like, well, how do that guy get so wide open? like it was just a simple motion. That's all it was because it left you indecisive for a second as your backpedaling going. I know what my responsibility is, but oh my God, this big guys coming up right now. He might be it. And that's kind of what this game is. The Caleb's final touchdown was that. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. Sorry to catch you off. The Eagles final touchdown was a great example of that was that they messed with it in and out rules of the motion of Devante Smith. They thought it so in and out is two, two DBs, the corner in the slot. One, takes the in route, no matter which guy has it, one takes the out route.

Devante Smith is on a speed motion. So the guy that slots like, oh, he's coming at me. He's coming inside. But then Devante Smith reverses back out and runs an outbreaker so he gets double covered. Because the guy that thought he has the end, thought he had him. And the out guy's like, no, I got him. And then the guys pops right behind wide open for a touchdown. So exactly what you're laying out was an example there.

Real quick on the Caleb thing. I remember when Taitan went down with the Achilles thing against the Knicks. well, of course, all of us remember it. And whatever, and you were like, well, man, he's in a ton of pain, which was like the only thing that was telling me, like, maybe it wasn't the Achilles because usually when you see it happen, the player's confused. Remember Kobe was like, did you kick me?

Even James Wiseman was like backpedaling. And then he fell down and kind of looked around, like confused, like what's going on? So that's why, like, for a moment there with a Tatum thing, I was like, I'm still not 100% sure. And so when Caleb was in so much pain, even though he wasn't hit by anybody and the leg just gives out and now everybody thinks every single injury

is in Achilles now all the time. Look, to your point on third and long, Chicago was in third and seven plus eight times. They went two for eight. One of them was solving it with a screen. The Loveland thing is still really weird. One catch, three yards. And they left him into block

on the Badgent throw to the end zone because I was watching that matchup being like, do you get it to Loveland? Because he's such a playmaker. I'm like, they have to leave him in against Dallas Turner. and I don't love the just across the board, stop blocking defensive ends with tight ends thing

because it's like, well, sometimes it actually does work. Yeah, right. And so on that one, they're hoping he can hold up long enough. It's kind of an impossible spot to go, Bejian, hey, get in there. But three red zone trips, no points for it, the fumbled to go line, the blocked field goal, Caleb's injury.

So it's just a brutal, brutal day and a bear's defense that none of us necessarily like that maybe the good side here is you only gave up nine points of this whole thing. But since it's the hamstring part, it and how messy as you had told me this summer, you're like, I think the NFC North is the Big 12. I don't think anybody should be written off and no one should be scared of anyone else based on what we've seen through two weeks.

Then it includes Green Bay, who you're like, what do I do with this team right now? Green Bay's defense, which I thought was going to be a total joke is actually like kind of good. I think, again, Vikings with Carson Wentz, but like that game, even then it was upon rewatch, it was so many short fields. That's where all the points came from. And then they play the Jets. And Jets are no joke. Like, Jets are kind of like, you know, well, Aaron Glenn's clock management at the end might have been a joke.

But the rest of the team, like the run game. I don't think he understood it. I saw his quote after the fact. Yeah. So go ahead. No, no. It's kind of, yeah, him and then Vrable burned two timeouts in a row. And that got to delay a game.

That was a, there was some weird moments, clock management stuff. But yeah, but the Jets are not bad. Like, I don't think they're great, but they're not bad. And, I mean, Lucas Van Ness was baptizing them. I mean, he was incredible. Lucas Vandes. So, like, yeah, he, shout out to him. And then they have a young guy, Danny Dennis Sutton from Penn State that look good.

So they, like, their defense, I think Jonathan Gannon, I said this last week, but that was like the second highest rate he ever blitz was in week one as a play caller. And I think this week or against the Jets yesterday was a higher rate or at least an equivalent rate. So he's blitzing. He's playing different or he's coaching it up, scheming it different than he did it with the Eagles. It's, yeah, the Packers defense, the run game, maybe. they get Caleb Johnson going, but the O-Lyons still a mess.

Jordan Love is still, it's all hero ball from Jordan Love. But yeah, they're a weird team, too. The Lions, I don't know, I can't trust their D-Bs. Kelvin Shepard's emotional. They're supposed to get everybody back. When they get Branch and Kirby back, I would imagine what, post-week 5? Yeah. They just can't be like 0-1-5, you know?

Really? Right. Right. Their offense is fine. They're not going to be O-N-5. No, no, they're too good. Like, they have too much talent. It's just more Jemir Gibbs.

Like, don't run them into the ground because they have no backup running back. So it's like that, that's my like one little thing I'm worried. Like if Jemir Gibbs gets banged up, like they're built on the run game and then Jaregoff playing off of that. So like that's one little scary thing I'm watching right now. But they were out their right tackle. They're out their left guard. And I don't know. I thought actually the Lions offense didn't play as bad as it maybe looked.

I just think the Bill's offense, which is just elite right now and just firing on all cylinders. Well, let's talk about the bills because they didn't play and rarely does a team not play. And I go, God, I like him even more after watching how hard that win was for Cincinnati against Houston. So look, the headline on this whole thing is Houston's own two. Probably a little early to be worrying about them being the 12 seed in the AFC. I don't like the O&2 stat that just inundates every single broadcast. And maybe I'm wrong on this one. But it's just I think there's so many bad teams.

that are calculated in the O and two start thing, where if I were a good team with expectations, things haven't worked out for me. I've had a tough schedule to start the first two weeks. I'd be like, I know what the number says, 16% of the teams making the playoffs, starting O&2 since it's expanded. We're not those teams.

We are good and we've been disappointing through two weeks. So I don't think it's relevant, even if some people will just tell me, hey, it's math, like what point are you trying to make? I'll accept that maybe so many people think I'm wrong about the whole thing. I just think it's kind of overstated. Having said all that, watching how hard that was for Burrow makes me go,

Jesus, the bills are amazing. Right? That's what you've been going into the week, and I talked about this on Thursday with Matt, was the bills did everything you should do against that Texas defense. If you want a nickel and dime against them, you're dead. Like, they have too much speed. They have too many pass rushers, and they just have too much. I know it doesn't feel that way after a couple of weeks,

but they held Joe Burrow to the second lowest success rate he's ever had in a single game. Only one out of four dropbacks was successful. That is stark. Like that is so low, but he was explosive and he extended plays. And when you're playing against a defense that runs so much zone, especially a lot of quarters, the longer the play goes,

the harder it is to guard. But if you're throwing within two, two and a half seconds, they can just close. They can read routes. The touchdown, Jamar Chase, not the, oh my God, unbelievable pure way. What the best catch of the year?

Oh my God. There's no way there's going to be a better touchdown catch than that. He's unbelievable. He's actually, it's, it's, can we stay with that? Because I always argue that he's, I think he's the best receiver in the league. I think there's people when Jefferson's at his peak, and look, it wasn't Jefferson's fault last year that he had two touchdowns, so then he gets overlooked a little bit. There was actually like a really good comparison between the two, and that Chase makes that

play. And I've always liked Chase a little bit more because I think he's got a little bit more motherfucker in him. But then if you look at Jefferson, on the Wentz throw that he missed in the end zone, Jefferson set that route up so perfectly because every single receiver running that route is running a corner route into the back of the end zone,

every single one. And all he does is just faint and then run straight to the back of the end zone. And he looked back at Wentz, and he kind of went with his fingers very close, like it was close. And I don't think he was like shitting on him there a little bit. I think he was trying to be like,

oh, man, we were this close, they were this close. But he was also letting you know, like the throw wasn't good because I was wide open. And when people prefer Jefferson on the route, technician stuff, you see that play and you go, well, I can't tell you

that you're wrong. So I'm not just saying this because Chase, that end zone touchdown is so stupid that it was even possible that he could get his body and his feet down with all that. He's my favorite and I would argue him still the best in the league. But I don't know. Yeah, it's a 1A1B. I'm partial to Jefferson

just because, yeah, the route writing stuff actually is why. And just some of the Jefferson stuff working from the slot, like just more of a kind of like total player and some stuff. He moves like his legs and upper body are like separate from each other. I mean, I know that's not stupid, but like they truly, his legs would be this way and his upper body be the other way. It's, it's weird. But Chase is just a force of nature. Like so, and again, this is what the extended

plays. And I had the stat on it. Yeah, Burrow on throws over two and a half seconds was nine of 13 for 137 yards and two touchdowns. And that was him because against those quarters looks. And again, on it, even though some people thought Reed Blakenship was wrong, Chase is running a dig and on that side it's a quarter safety and quarter safeties against digs drive on it. They are supposed to take it away and drive

on it. He drives on it but then the play extends and then Chase just keeps running and so it's that's the thing. If you extend against a really tight zone defense like that that's how you make it pop. So even though Burrow 25% success rate got sacked five times

he had seven explosives. So it's like yeah we didn't make a lot of contact But when we did, it was going over the fence. And that's how you have to beat the Texas. You can't live trying to go for a 50% success rate. And the bills did in week one. And I thought Burrow, in extending those plays, did in a week two because Alano Brown was rough.

Marius Mims is a star. Or, you know, Lano Brown has some rough moments. Yeah. Mims is awesome. Yeah. It just felt so like, you know, regardless of the sack numbers, which is high, which you always sort of expect with Burrow. And, you know, because he's played the first two weeks, if you project it out over a full season,

it's going to start creeping up to the season he was sacked 51 times, which is a career high. But it's also the throws where it's like a defensive lineman is hanging around his hips. And he's completing some of this stuff. I think yesterday was a bit of a reminder of like, this is why every time these QB tier things come out, like he's going to be fourth. Like he's going to be fourth at worst. And look, on the other side of the football, you know, you go through free agency, which is probably worse and worse as far as,

what you're shopping for because, as I point out all the time, when the cap continues to go up like this, you can just be like, well, who's available? Well, no one, because you just get to keep everybody, even if you make a mistake. I'll sign my slot. Like, I'll sign my safety. Like, yeah, why not? Why not? I can pay them 20 mil. Who cares? Especially with the cap trickery that you can pull off in the NFL. But if you look at what Cincinnati's done here, I mean, Dexter Dolores is a no-brainer, or Dexter Lawrence, other than you kind of wonder like, all right, is it simply a contract thing where the other teams even allow him to go? I know John and then. has been around for a while.

They bring in Cook. Running through who they brought in, Mafé as well from Seattle, who they had to make some decisions on contract stuff because they have so many good players on defense. It's like, all right. And you could even argue maybe he isn't quite what people thought he was going to be a couple years ago.

But I'm talking about like five guys that are new that are real dudes, including three on the defensive line. And, you know, a Cincinnati defense where I'm like, I'm not just going to assume because it's different, it's going to be better. but if you're the 10th best defense, which is I think where they are right now and opposing yards per play,

that is a completely different Cincinnati situation. Like the conversations you're allowed to have about them now and where they are in the AFC with a healthy borough is as crazy as the AFC is, which feels like it's just deep one through eight with all of these teams. Looking at their defense the first couple of weeks, again, against a Houston team,

who I do think is going to be really good. This is an awesome start for this franchise. Yeah, it's, I have a theory of like, you know, everyone wants to go from their bad players, their Ds and D minuses. They want the A's, you know, jump. That's where they want to bump up grade. But really, it's kind of shit to not shit. Like, sometimes going from a D to a B minus or a C plus, actually is a huge boost.

But sometimes you go from a D to Dexter Lawrence. And it's a, yeah, it is that D to an A. And I mean, yesterday, and I have some qualms with what the Texans are calling in the run game right now. I think they should be more of an at-you gap scheme, duo run scheme, which is more. more physical, more double teams, more polars. They run too much zone. And, yeah, Dexter Lawrence shredded them whenever they ran zone because you're going against,

as the listeners ran out, name the center for the Texans. All right. Yeah, that's exactly it. I can name Dexter Lawrence, and he dominated him, because especially on those zone runs, he has to block him one-on-one. And they only had one successful running back run, and that was a three-yard gain on second and one to Woody Marks. So that was the only time they stayed ahead of the chain.

when they ran the ball yesterday, the Texans. They got stuffed six times. A stuff is a tackle for zero yards or a TFL. That's hard living. You know, that's really hard living. If the Bengals can do this on top of the turnovers, like they have two really good corners. Now they're kind of filled out the front

and they can keep them behind the sticks and not have all these short yardage plays on third down. And when they do get, have short yardage plays, they have guys that can dominate. Because it wasn't just Dexter Lawrence, too. It's a guy that was even there. T.J. Slate had some dominant plays

as well and he's been there. So it's just, yeah, I feel a little. Well, his life's a lot easier now. Oh, yeah. Three new guys on the defensive line. Yeah. We got over 1,200 pounds up here up front. And then on top of it, too, is the run, they're getting a little what I call siloed,

where it's if they're under center, they're running it, if they're in shock on their passing. Zach Taylor has shown that he'll adapt off of that. So they need some more shock. Like Baltimore? Yes. Baltimore is the same way. And that's why teams look at four weeks.

And then once you get those tendencies, that's when you really see teams make jumps in the second month because then they got tendencies in film and all that kind of stuff. And you see the good teams break those tendencies is that I did like the Bengals were using more kind of what they call two backgrounds with actual another guy in the backfield. And they were actually pretty good at that pretty successful at that. And I want them to keep leaning into it and kind of build out that package because that was really working for them. And it's nice to just have that floor lifting run package.

And they had one taken back. That was that there was even like a 20-something yard gain. But if that's part of this package and on top of these explosive plays that we know, Jamaric Chase and T. Higgins is going to get to, it's like this. And now they can play defense and actually hold up against some of these offenses because I thought CJ Stroud actually played great. I know people aren't going to think that, but he actually, he was playing like a hero yesterday. It was just that I think the rest of the team let him down.

They had a drop field goal. You know, the holder is dropping a field goal, which you never see in the NFL, especially indoors. That's kind of just like, you're fired. Like, what are you doing here if you were dropping field goals? but I just think this Bengals team is just they got a lot, they're live on defense like you said. It might not be 10th, but they're not going to be bottom

10 like they were last year. No, in the Red Zone situation, I'm with you on Stroud, like I don't leave that. I mean, do you realize he leads the NFL and pass attempts through two weeks? Oh, I believe. You know he threw it 55 times? Like, I watched the whole game and then I still was like, he threw it 55

times yesterday. Yeah. So you factor in that number of shootout with the bills. It would make sense. end of the year, Stroud's not going to lead the league in past attempts. I'm with you. The Red Zone stuff was a disaster yesterday for him. I'm still like Houston next week. I do too.

I like both of these teams. I like the bills too. They're the class of the AFC, you know? And that's the thing is like I still feel okay about the Texans. Like, again, the defense held Joe Burrow to his second lowest success rate he's ever had. Usually you would take that. And but, you know, those big plays are Jamar Chase and even T. Higgins, all that they add up to. Houston, you're 12th seed right now.

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All right. Whatever the communication was that they talked about where the green dot was the safety and then they moved it to middle linebacker. I guess never do that again. I mean, I know they still gave up 30 plus points, but it was Kansas City. The night game at their place.

And then they started dropping bodies in the secondary there. You have to feel, I know your own two in Indianapolis, but you have to feel so much better that you competed in this game, that it got to overtime, and that there were moments where the defense didn't look anything like what Baltimore came rolling in with week one. Yeah. And on top of it, like the offense is still, you still got Jonathan Taylor.

You still have it. I mean, now it appears getting hurt. It's not ideal. But yeah, Josh Downs. I know. I really like Pierce a lot. And especially what I played golf with his dad. Really? Dude, unbelievable family. Oh, they're freak athletes, aren't they? Like the whole family? Yeah. They're all like crazy athletes. Yeah. Yeah. And his dad was like a single digit handicap and plays the base.

I mean, it's like, it doesn't even, you think I'm lying. It's like all true. Yeah, I played golf with him out. Elgin, was it? I forget. I don't know. He's not even like, yeah, and that's the thing. He's six three.

I think he was like a really good volleyball player, if I remember correctly, too. He was probably good at everything. Yeah. He was good at golf and then he was telling me about all the brothers. He was an awesome, awesome guy. Still is. That's really cool. I know.

He went to the Badgers camp and they didn't, and they didn't offer. them. Yeah, but we have a lot of problems going on in Wisconsin right now. But I mean, you feel like, you know, that's the type of guy you offer, especially at Wisconsin. No, but I thought the run game for the Colts look good. I, like, I just don't think they have the forces on defense, even if they played better. Like, Lou Annamroo is a good coach. It's just, they just, like, Arden Key shouldn't be playing that many snaps. And then on top of it, they don't really have that much pass rush shoes. But offensively, like, watch the open and drive. She Mainstike can still dial them up. They, they turtled a little bit in the end, I thought. You know, you've got to realize you're going against number 15. You know, I thought at the very end, but I did think that the run game stuff was pretty good for the Colts. They had the both of those touchdowns came in what they call pin pull. Outside, outside guy pins, offensive alignment pull.

It's student body left and student body right. You know, that's what those plays are. But no, like having the fact that the Colts can still get to that, their old lines not bad. Dana Jones is still iffy, but at least he can still kind of. pepper some throws when it's all going well. But I'll say, though, the Chief's like getting their kind of like, Patrick Mahomes kind of getting the deep ball back. All right, let's talk about it.

Yeah. Hey, shout out. Collinsworth had two unbelievable moments. Maybe he had more, but two that stood out to me. And he goes, you know, you've got Kenneth Walker in there, who, by the way, it is not just about, hey, did he get 100 yards tonight? By the way, I have some Pierce family facts that I needed. I was laughing about while you were talking because I totally messed up the town.

We'll get to that a little bit later. it's I think there was a second and short and overtime and he finds away like there's no way it's a TFL and he finds a way to just get the extra yard or two and then moves the chains it's it's not like I said the catches that you're starting to see from him a little bit more that Collins were talked about but he's going like look over the course of the season kind of those packages you were talking about with the two running backs of Cincinnati like out of this will we start to see and I don't know if there's look there isn't a number one wide receiver on this team still. But for a night, and Sanda was all over this, like through Mahomes' first 70 games, the number

of 20-plus-yard plays, like air-yard throws. And now since like the last few seasons, that has dropped off. He had a 29 to Thornton, who I couldn't believe hung on to that ball in overtime. He had a 44-yard one. I know it's just a few of them, but Jesus, like, if you look at how long it's been since Mahomes, of all people, hasn't had this as part of his arsenal, you wonder if it doesn't necessarily have to be the number one receiver, but Walker is finally somebody that you have to respect with how you're going to play your fronts against him, because if you're just going to

let him run wild, Mahomes is totally happy just taking it the entire time. The trickle-down effect of a run game, those safeties have to creep up. Like, those safeties have to be a little, a little bit lower. Or they just, their eyes have to be in the back. And that's kind of the modern game right now. These defenses with a kind of, the too high thing is kind of a misconception, and it's like kind of a misnomer. It's too high shell. and they rotate down into three and other things, or they invert, yada, yada. But when you're in quarters is that the safeties are the run fit.

Like they are run defenders. Like they are the forced defenders. And that's a very key part of how to attack those defenses. You want to influence the safeties. So if I have a run game cooking and a run game getting explosives, then the safeties have to be part of the run. Like they start have to fill up. They have to get a little tighter.

But then that creates air in the office. offense because now when I attack deeper, if I'm throwing it 20 yards down the field, that's just two yards more space if the safety is that much closer. And really, it's not even just Kenneth Walker. It's Emmett Johnson, the rookie from Nebraska, which I actually thought Colonsworth actually had some scouting on him, which I was like, whoa, look at you. Like, actually had some notes on him. I was like, I was actually kind of surprised by that. But you saw the two Taekwant Thornton deep balls. They were both third long. Those, those were kind of the classics for the chiefs. Like the one, the overtime one was what third and 12 i mean just that's like the mohams throw that's the whole point

everybody else you're supposed to go hey we've got them in third and 12 and when mohomes is right and now allan you have to put into that conversation but mahomes was the only guy where you're like i still don't feel good and it's it feels like it's been too long since you should be the opponent still not feeling good on third and 12 against that guy and that was that was the same play that they hit tyree kill on and the first super bowl against 49ers wasp it was the exact same play That's the same play. Same play. Same play, same formation, same chip help from, from tight end, everything.

It was just, you know, flipped one right or left. But it's, yeah, one by three formation. One by three to me is one, meaning alone tight ends, the ISO receiver. Three is the trips receivers to the other side. And the first time they hit Taekwant Thornton on a deep one, it was same formation, one by three, same third and extra long. And that one, they ran a deep over to Taekwant Thornton, you know, just literally what it sounds like deep and over.

And what WASP is is a deep sail route and sales and overs work off each other. One you're breaking in and one you're breaking out. So they ran the same formation on those third extollonics. And then they ran that was that's what's so genius about the last one was that they ran the counter. They ran the change up off the one they showed earlier. And then they just come down with a great play. But yeah, same one that Tyrook Hill hit against the 49ers in that 2019 Super Bowl. You know, so it kind of funny that they were playing the hits.

And it's looking good again. This is also with their left tackle out for the Chiefs. That's great. They're at that undrafted rookie. I'm shocked. Okay. Daniel Jones. We talked about it last week a little bit going like, hey, that whole thing was a fluke

that started 25. I'm not taking myself out of fluke phase, but I thought the second Collinsworth point that I want to bring up is their overtime, their first and 10, they're facing an eight-man box, which is something else I was watching, because the end of that regulation, Colts drive where they got them to punt. it reminded me to the Minnesota game earlier. Spagnola was like, I'm going to put 10 guys. He had one play, 10 guys in a line of scrimmage,

and one corner was lined up against somebody against a slot. And so then I was like, is he going to close the rest of the game with this? Because we've all seen it from Spagnolo over the years. It's like once he decides, okay, fuck this. Like this is just what's going to happen the rest of the time. They kind of got out of that a little bit. But on this one particular play, it's first and 10. I think if Casey's 17 and is an eight-man box

and you can tell that this is like where I think Collinsworth, like, if you're not paying enough attention to it. You don't appreciate him because he's basically saying like that's the difference between like the other guys and maybe where Daniel Jones is still at because you've got to check out of that right now. And it was a one yard tackle for a loss. It sets them up and now that you get the field goal decision. And now you're feeling like, okay, we're, we're screwed. We're screwed here now because we definitely needed seven against this kind of team. Overall, I think there's a lot, especially with Pierce going out that, I mean, look, you just should feel way, there's, it's hard to

feel that much better about yourself after a loss, but the Colts did it. There's several times where the Colts could just gave up. And the fact that they're kind of kept fighting in a team that's I mean, they kind of have a black cloud hanging over them right now. Maybe it's the owner on the sideline. But they kind of have a black cloud hanging over them right now. But I really do think that's like they could have gave up a lot of times. That's really hard to go in. And they went at Arrowhead. You know, it, I mean, they go to Texans next or they play the Texans next. But I agree. that it's like they at least have life and it's not a totally deadbeat offense and not a total deadbeat defense even though that they're not ideal and they're not totally healthy right now.

How do you feel about the kicking off if it's against the chiefs with the overtime rules? Because I thought that was an interesting debate. And then Tariko brought up the records. It's like, well, you know, you still want to know what you have to do. Yeah. But the way it plays. And I'm not trying to do this just because the way it played out. That makes that conversation a lot harder than I think people give it credit for.

It's like, okay, but if we go field goal, field goal, that means that just the way the possessions work, they're getting an extra possession before we do. Do we really want to do that to Mahomes? I know. I know. I go back and forth on this because it's a heart versus head thing for me. I don't know either because, again, it's situations with it. And I don't know that kind of have to adapt some of the overtime thinking because it's new rules. And it's like how the flow of these games have gone with those overtime rules is that back and forth, whether it's field goal, feel goal, or you get the touchdown first. Okay, now we know I have to

get a touchdown next or punt punt. And then whoever had the ball first, now it's live, now it's sudden death. You know, I've seen that kind of flow happen a lot too. So I go back and forth on this, but especially going against number 15, who is literally the best two minute operator, I've probably ever seen. So again, that's what kind of that turns into as well. I'm with you. I stick to you want the ball second, but like it's still just very hard when you're going against number 15. I still think I'd rather know what I have to do. Same. Okay. Yeah.

That's the whole point. But. But yeah. If I think the other guy is that good, do I really want to sign myself up for the odds that he's getting a second position? Yeah. It's like the dragon rules. If you're going against Josh Allen, Mahomes, maybe Lamar, it's like, eh, burrow.

It's like, all right, but maybe he'll shy away from that and try to get the ball first. Denver pulls it up. out against Jacksonville. It was an ugly first half. All the bad bow knicks was there. You have pointed this out to me that he is just, I mean, this is kind of like the floor is things. Like, why doesn't everybody do that? Or I remember like back when Rex Ryan had Mark Sanchez and they were making runs the AFC title games. And it was like, so he's just going to blitz all the time. Like you can just blitz? And granted, because it was Rex too. He was like, and we're going to blitz even more. And I remember like doing shows on Monday. Scott and I'd be sitting there going like, so can you just

blitz all the time? Like, that doesn't seem to make any sense. build the house out of it, build the whole whole plane out blitzers. That's how we do. How's when we have Dereal Rivas, too? Right. But to the point of like, it's kind of like the golf play action numbers. You know, like, well, what do you say? Play action.

It's like, why don't you do it every time? Well, you can't do it every time. It's like, okay, well, what's Bo Nix against pressure? Well, why don't you just pressure every time? Then you start thinking, like, should I pressure them every time? Especially like, they didn't sack them, though. They didn't sack them at all in this game. And then I have a theory on it, but I'm going to tee it back up to you.

this was clearly a philosophical change at halftime for what they wanted Knicks to look for because it looked like it was like, find the one-on-ones and just sling it. And it changed Denver's offense. And I think some of that, and another thing too was,

the frustration I would say I had from the Broncos Chiefs game in week one was that for better for worse, there's a lot of training wheels in the Broncos' offense right now for the quarterback and really for the offense line to help them out. They're talented offensive line, but they had do some scheme stuff to help them out, which is good. It's good coaching.

They weren't putting Knicks on the move. And that was kind of like, you kind of have to. Like you kind of, those are floor raises for this offense. They only put them on the move twice, designed rollouts is what next gen stats call it. Bootlegs, sprint outs. They do this thing called dash pass, which is like a bit, that big third and three to jail and wattle. That's dash pass. And the Broncos run that more than anybody else.

Bo Nix had more. It's talked about some Thursday with Matt. Bo Nix had more design spurnouts than any other quarterback in the NFL last year. And it wasn't even close. You know, I think Stafford was second and he had like 20 fewer. And I don't think anyone else was even close to that. So it was, but it makes it easier for the quarterback. It cuts off the field.

And if you have enough juice at receiver, you can kind of find someone. I think I like the six guys when they're healthy. If I look at the receiver's depth chart for them. And look, Waddle's really good. He's not some of the elite guys that we're talking about here. But you go one through six through Denver's depth chart at that position. And I'm like, I still think I like little Jordan Humphrey a little bit. Pat Bryant.

That's my, my dude. I love Pat Bryant. He's a power slot, baby. Big dude, you basically do tight end stuff, but has enough juice on the outside. No, and then other things, too, more QB replays in the run game, which was effective against the Jacks last year when they played. So he was keeping it. Or just, you know, some of those handoffs were replays. He just didn't, you know, didn't keep it.

So I do think that they just had a good game plan. I think they got to it in the second quarter. The first quarter again, I mean, the first drive is extremely frustrating if I were a Broncos fan. Nick's checked it down before the deep routes were, like, breaking. Like usually you check it down once those routes break and then I go, oh, I got to check it down now. And he's checking it down before that. But I think he was pushing it. But I agree with you.

Some of the go-ball stuff was there just taking the one-on-ones. Hey, we have Cortland Sutton. Hey, we have juice on the outside. Let's just try and give him a shot. And it works. We have guys that can win like that and they're physical like that. They also draw penalties. Like the Travis Hunter got called for a penalty that led to the Jonah Coleman touchdown.

Jonah Coleman's awesome, by the way. Like, he's their third running back because Dobbins leaves, Harvey was inactive for this one. So we're talking about a guy getting his first touches. It was his first touchdown. And he was a huge part of closing this game out, especially when they had to go four a minute up a touchdown. Yeah. He's a really smart player. I mean, they gushed about them all preseason too at Washington.

Super smart. He's great protection. another thing I was really frustrated about in week one. You're playing Spags and then you're putting RJ Harvey and he goes your protection back. RJ Harvey is not good in protection. But Coleman in college was great and in preseason was great. But now I think they found their excuse to play him. And you could see like even the play his last run, he gets the first down and he goes down.

And that's a smart player, a rookie just doing that, knowing that and also making sure he gets past the first because he knows if you slide, they start where you start your slide. I was like, this is a coach's favorite. And that's why you can see why Sean Payton gushes about him, why Davis Webb gushes about him. But like, that's, I think it's going to be Jonah Coleman's backfield no matter what. So, no, it's, that felt more how I picture the Broncos this year. And honestly, I feel still good about Jaxx. I thought Trevor Lawrence was great outside of that pick. And that was more just Riley Moss making a great play.

And Trevor Lawrence also assuming what the coverage was. He thought it was covered two. It was covered two. But he thought the corner Riley Moss was just going to sit there in the, flat, he did what they call two carry, is that if you don't have an out route coming towards you, then you carry that vertical route and you take away that whole shot that Trevor thought he had. So it was more just like, just like how Bo Nix's interceptor was. It was like, I assumed this and it wasn't that.

It didn't play out how I thought in my head. So that was just kind of one of those. But I thought Trevor was on fire. But I thought these were two good teams going at it. I actually my one little worry for the Jags was they gave up a lot of pressures. Their guards gave up like six quick pressures. I think they give up six quick pressures, and the Broncos offensive line, the whole game gave up five total pressures. So that's, you know, that's maybe where my one worry from the Jags is in this takeaway.

Well, that's a great point on the matchup there with the Denver front, because I was kind of like, where are these guys? And it's against the Jacksonville offensive line, which the best version of it probably still is being considered any better than average. I mean, things can change, right? But personnel-wise, nobody was raving about it. They thought it was a weak part of this otherwise AFC contending team. I thought that pick from Lawrence looked a little second season-ish where it was like you just kind of got lost on that one. I think it was on third down because I know the next one in the end zone. Right.

So the next one in the end zone, I hated. And then, you know, Davis Webb's on the sideline, all this stuff's happening over and over again. I just can't imagine that Sean Peyton. I mean, look, there's still moments from like, so Sean Peyton, who's pretty good at this stuff, thinks Bow-Nix's the guy and you still don't really like him. Who's probably right? You know, I'm like, is there any scenario where I'm still right about Bo Nix and Sean Payton is wrong? Because that feels pretty stupid to think. But the bigger part of this, because they look so bad in week one, the play calling in that first half and then the interception where Davis Webb's like, I can't believe you through the jump ball.

And Ross Tucker, who's been awesome these first two weeks, by the way, on the broadcast, you can just see all the prep oozing out of him. He's just like, well, look, if it's a jump ball to Sutton in the back of the end, so I'm sitting here going like, I realize this. And you're talking about breaking off the coverage a little bit that led to this kind of crowded situation. But Davis Webb's like, you can't throw that. They show them on the sideline. And to the Peyton and the play calling of all of this, like the amount of thought that had to go in to go ahead

and then make this decision and then everyone to go, oh, this isn't going to work, I think that second half is like, there's a reason why these really smart offensive people thought that this would be better for every person. buddy. And I don't know what happened at halftime or who talked about what, but it was very clear. It was like two entirely different teams. Yeah. On some of the stuff they were doing. It felt like they, you know, and this is good. Again, Sean Payton knows what he's doing. You could tell

to he was talking to Webb before place, like on the, on the mic. So maybe he did. So, you know, just food for thought. Just food for thought. Just I noticed that a couple times they cut in. But no, a good part, what good coaches do is they trim their game playing down as the game goes along. And that's what it felt like the Broncos did. So like what you're mentioning with the go ball stuff, what you're mentioning with, I'd say the run game stuff. It feels, you know, you start with, I'm making up a number. You start with 70 plays, really good coaches go, we're just going to run these 12 in the second half. And just I know we put a lot of work in, but guess what? These are the ones that work. And I think Peyton's one of the best at that. He has no qualms with, you know,

pressing a button over and over. And I think maybe, you know, has some influence on Davis went with that. But I really did think they leaned into their strengths in this game, which is like what you want to see for a team that should be contending. I love how the front showed up in the second half. And I love what they did with all of these wide receivers. Okay, this is going to be a thing we're going to jump into every week, vibes versus feel off vibes versus film. It's already messed up the title of it. I don't even like the word vibes. I'm pretty sick of it. But I think it makes sense for what I'm doing. I'm sitting on the couch. I know you are crunching everything and looking at the tape.

And then based on your prep with this question I threw you last night in preparation for today's episode. It dawned on me, but I am already aware of where my flaw could be. I was like, especially in the Waddle, pass interference, and then they also got the penalty after that on unsportsmanlike on Liam Cohen afterwards. You're right. Billy Martin. So if Denver's going right to left on your TV screen, the right sideline is directly into the sun. And I was wondering, I'm like, does it feel like Denver throws a lot of those balls up there? And wouldn't that make sense if their guys were used to it? And it's the receiver's advantage of like when the ball is supposed to be out, how deep the route is, all that kind of stuff.

If you're the corner that never is dealing with that and has to turn around and find the ball in the sun, could that be something that Denver actually prioritizes? I also immediately caught myself and said, well, how many other stadiums are set up to like, could this just be the four o'clock eastern window? And it's the second half of a Broncos game, and you're noticing these go routes on the right side of the field in the sun, and there isn't really any other place that you're just noticing because it's the only place you would ever notice them. So I wonder if there is something to that where Denver thinks is an advantage, or you're like, that's just the tilt of the earth, bro. What I say immediately, they play in Mountain West. They're the only ones that play a mountain time.

Arizona does a little bit. But the other thing, too, and there's a little bit of a... But not as open. So there's that. Right. There's a little bit of a play style thing here happening too. And it just, I kind of, it was a good question because I kind of, I noticed it too is Bo Nix likes to work to the outside. He's, he throws between the numbers at one of the lowest rates in the NFL, like since he's entered the league. So he throws more go balls and stop routes and fades to the outside than anybody else.

Loves throwing slot fades. Loves throwing the balls to court. I mean, we just saw it. Like, it's everything we just talked about. So it's a little bit of that where, because he. He throws to the outside more than anyone. And I even looked at the numbers. He's through vertical routes to the outside on both sides more than anyone else in the NFL, starting for last year.

I just looked through 2025 in the first two weeks. So he throws more go balls than anybody else to the outside. Plus the sun is over there to the side because of the Mountain West time and all that or Mountain Time, all that stuff. So it's a little bit of like, yeah, kind of like a little bit of play style thing and a little bit of the story of statement orientation. But it's, I don't know if is it, well, it's kind of Jerry World's got the same. on issue, but that's an issue for everybody. That's not a home field advantage. It's a disadvantage sometimes. How many times the Cowboys drop it off of that? But it was a fun idea, and I kind of realized that too. It's like, there are a lot of throws in the sun, especially

to the right. But yeah, I think it's just Nix's play style leads to that a little bit. Yeah, I don't think I've just noticed it, but I immediately realized that you might be noticing it because it's the only place to notice it. So therefore, it isn't some game plan thing that they do. Do you know who the leading passer is yardage right now in the NFL? Is it Shuck? It is Shuck. I promise I will not do this to you because I don't like when like, oh, yeah, I thought this guy knew his shit and I put you on the spot.

But I know you want to spend a little time with the Ravens. I watched the second half this morning because it wasn't a priority screen yesterday. And I'll give it to Shuck. He got the ball out quick. You know, on the broadcast, they were talking a little bit about like, hey, this vaunted Ravens defense. And that very well be the case, but we were doing the preview stuff. I'm like, this Ravens team has like a lot of assumptions, like more assumptions with its roster than other Super Bowl contenders in the AFC.

And the lack of pass rush, I think shows up in that second half on top of Shuck, looking like he's been playing for 10 years getting the ball out. But then they had to start getting more exotic with Kyle Hamilton. It's like, look, you're going to be blitzing now because we can't. And there was a TFL in there. But other than when they just decided to rush five in a spot where they, should be able to just go, hey, they're going to be, New Orleans did mix it up a little bit better than maybe you would have expected

in some of the play calling being down a score. But I think that's a spot where you're kind of wondering, did the Ravens have that closer and really it felt like Hamilton was their only option as closer. So, you know, again, if there's anything I'm saying that you think is insane, fix it, correct it, but that's what I saw. No, I know, I mean, just looking field-wise and stat-wise, I was like, oh, man, Ravens offensively, actually was kind of fine with everything.

but they only had one real drive in the fourth quarter. Like the Saints just had the ball forever in the fourth quarter. You know, there's a two-minute drive at the end. So they only had one design run in the whole fourth quarter. This is a team built to run when you have Derek Henry and Lamar. They ran it out of shotgun because your whole under center stuff from week one and everybody talking about it with them. And the tendency thing, which is why kind of like said Ravens when we were talking about it before,

I don't know what happened there, but it was like, so, you know, you're just going to, it was a three and out, and then it was the interception afterwards. I mean, they barely ran any plays. And then even the third and one, Lamar's launching a ball to Chris Moore. And you and I, you know, I feel like I'm pretty well versed with football players. And I was like, who's more? I don't know who it was. Yeah, that's what you're saying, too.

Because it was one-on-one. So you don't want to tell you, we spend all this time talking about explosives, but he dials it up. He's right on him. it's like granted you're running that deep so could have all been out in front of him a little bit more the corner plate at cool it was right with him you know so like but then you're going what the fuck is the whole point of this under center derrick henry lamar jackson thing if on third one you're not just and i thought i thought when he launched it they're going to go for it on fourth one like that's that's what i thought and then they didn't that was like a little bit like you know i want to say it's a

red flag but i was kind of just like oh that was curious like i that's if you're that aggressive step on third and one, it's usually because you know you have fourth down in your pocket. You're going to go, you know, we're going to go for it anyways. But I've always been a believer. It's like, get a fresh set of downs. Get the first. You know, and that second of one, launch it. Third one, okay, let's just get the first.

And then we can get a new bite at the Apple. That was curious to me. Also, like you mentioned, and I think the defense right now, they're fine. Mentor is good. But the thing is this is where talent really comes in the play is Juan Johnson. And if you just notice those two big plays he had underneath throws, those were third downs. The Ravens did exactly what they wanted the Saints to do and Tower Shuck to do. You're going to throw underneath.

This is what the Seahawks and Mike McDonald live off of. But if you ever notice the Seahawks doing it and it looks like tag team finishers and wrestling, when they just tee off on the guys and they only get two yards after a checkdown, Juan Johnson's going for not only just first downs, but huge plays. They don't have that kind of tackling horses and maybe that just well verseness of whatever. you want to put it. They're not at like as adept to it as like with the Seattle start. Probably will get better as time goes along. But that was just something that knows to me. And even Chuck, you mentioned like getting the ball out quick. He was dicing them up on throws from like like underneath like 10 yards,

like zero to 10 yards. And like they was like. Look, I thought he was awesome, man. He's smart. He knows what he is too. That's what I like. I like quarterback's I know what they are good and bad. Like he knows, I can get away with this. My arm can't get away with this. Like you, I can make this guy miss. I'm to take a sack. I'm going to throw the ball away here. He kind of just knows what he is. And Kellamomore can dial him up too. Like the Laleavi touchdown is a great design. That's called Trinidad Chambers had a touchdown actually on the same the same one. Same exact concept. It's called divide. But you see it again. It's a quarter's beater because they're putting the safety in a bind. She's just supposed in the corner. And the safety just gets caught. And I don't know.

Kellan Moore just does a lot of good stuff. And Chuck is operate outside of the first half against the lines. It's like he's since then, he's really just seeing it. And I think he had a miss to a lobby on a third down. And it's because he got blitz by Kyle Hamilton. He's getting pressured. It's covers zero, I think, but it was a blitz. And because he knows he's about to get heated up, even before Alave is breaking on his route, the ball's out.

And he gives it a chance. It doesn't get completed, but he gives the play a chance. Maybe that's the best way I can put Tower Shuck. And I mean, that's so complimentary. And Chase Young rocks. Chase Young's really good. Chase Young's just really good. And we kind of forget about him.

I mean, it kind of took a while. So I don't blame anybody for forgetting about him. But his win rate of the last couple of years has been incredible. I was thinking about him a little bit. Like, could Clowny have maybe had a better career based on like what you thought he would be when he was coming out? Yeah. Right? But he's so talented.

The reason he's still playing is that his talent keeps his floor so much higher. And I think Chase is similar in the sense. Like in the beginning you're like, well, I thought this guy was like going to be a game record. And I know there's some health stuff and all that kind of stuff. Like maybe that talent is keeping him better than you would have ever expected later. Although, look, I think he's only 27. I just feel like he hasn't been. What's that?

I couldn't believe he had bigger market and everything. Like, because like you mentioned the win rate, like his pressure rates have been good, but now he's finishing. And it's like, and he's been, him and Ronnie Stanley went 12 times. They went one-on-one. Chase Young had four pressures. And that, that means he dominated. Like that's a 33% pressure rate against a pretty good left tackle. He's older now, but pretty good left tackle.

And if you're winning all that he had three quick pressures the whole game, which is, again, that's dominant. Like so I, yeah, he's just, he's changed where I was like, oh, he's good. He's kind of underrated now. It's like more like, no, he's just like really good. And he's like up there. It's not just underlying numbers, nerd stats. It's like I test dominance when he gets those one-on-one opportunities. All right.

Let's do a little rapid fire. And then I know you want to talk Trinidad. before we let you go. So we got to tease that. See we can do this all in 15 minutes. I was itching. What on Trinidad? Yeah, oh, man.

I love him. I love him. I know he's red flags, age, size. That dude can play quarterback, man. He hangs in a pocket and fires that fastball and I love it. Yeah, that's a dude right there. I only can get so high with him. I know I'm jumping the gun.

Go ahead. Just do it. Just do it. You're in it. You're in the pocket. So, like, my process, I can only get so high with them. Like, I can only have them. I'm not going to have them as a top 10 guy in my big board.

I'm not going to have probably even top 20. But if a team takes a chance in him as how he plays right now, I even liked him last year. Like, I had a late, second or early third round grade. He put his paperwork in. He got, what, second to fifth round feedback? Yeah, middle round feedback. And that's always, they always are safer with what they give you. The league does.

I had the late second, third round grade. And I joke that was like him, Nussmeyer, and Simpson. I was like three old SEC small quarterbacks, like take which one that you like. But the dude is just, he gets it. Like the timing is great. The one, two, three, ball out. He's got a good arm. I would even say very good.

Like, he's got a lot of juice on that arm. He's a good athlete. I wouldn't say he's like the upper echelon, but he's good. And he just hangs in the pocket and throws over the middle. And why I always bring up throwing over the middle? Because throwing over the middle means anticipation. It means you're seeing it. And he did it when big moments, red zone third down.

And on top of it, like, just has a great feel for just any else. He also has the playmaking ability. So again, my comparison firm has been Jeff Garcia. And but it's like I can only get so high with the profile because of the age. I'm not going to be just wave it away. And bulk is a big thing for me. 205 is really that cutoff I look at that Jane Daniels is a great example. J.G. McCarthy are great examples.

if you're sub 205, really sub 205 and not thick, like injuries kind of stack up on you. So what his profile is, he's maxing it out. But it's like if a team ends up taking a chance on him, how he's playing right now in the end of the first round, like I totally get it

because the dude's just a baller and actually plays quarterback on top of the playmaking stuff. There you go. There we go. I actually need to clean up a little on the Pierce family, not from Elgin. Glenn Allen played golf with his dad, The reason I always reference Elgin is Van Pelt and I were on the Chicago affiliate,

which was actually a massive pain in our ass because they used to get mad if we weren't doing enough Chicago topics. And we're like, you know, we are on, I think, like 400 stations. And it's a national show. But it was the only affiliate hour we had. And for whatever reason, used to get judged based on how you did on that one hour as opposed to all the other stations. So I don't blame Chicago for wanting us to do more Chicago stuff. But there's always like, I think because of that, they were like, okay, how many remotes did we sell? like we have one in Elgin that no one wants to do. Waddle and Sylvie said no to it.

They're like, let's get those dopes from Bristol to do it. So when we showed up, I remember Waddle and Sylvie, we were like, what are you guys doing your remote tomorrow? We're like, Elgin. And they were like, what the fuck, dude? Seriously? So then we realized it was like, oh, they had this package that they had to stick somebody at. So I always think of Elgin.

The Pierce family, not from Elgin, from Glenn Allen, I believe. And so, yeah, the brother is going to play at Purdue this year. the other brother played UNC for a bit. I think he's like on the three, on three national team. The father played football at Northwestern. Mother played volleyball. So there's your volleyball.

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Can we have a NFL sound effect When we do these rapid fires Like the old school ESPN radio days No I want like a tackle sound I want that to be the transition Yeah like yeah yeah Yeah

Because we did a really long one That was like 12 seconds long Because those Saturday shows were six hours So I would just be like Let's make the dumbest one ever Not many people appreciated it. But Kyle, to-do list. Inside drill.

Just tape an inside drill and just keep it going. Oklahoma drill and just play it over and over. Quick hitter. How bad is late Aaron Rogers' career compared to other old quarterback swan songs? Because it's looking pretty bad, Ryan. It's looking pretty bad. And a lot of people have their head in the sand about it and make excuses about, oh, Mike Tomlin doesn't, it was telling them to do it.

that. Mike Tomlin was telling him to do that. And it's like, no, Aaron Rogers has kind of been very disappointing. And even the play he got jacked up on, speaking of jacked up, they got the strip sack on. He, uh, he, he didn't know the protection and he didn't know how to beat that blitz. And why I get frustrated about that is when he was with the Jets, it was the same thing he got teed off on when he played the Vikings. I want to say he played the Broncos and I want to say he played the Falcons. And those games, he got beat by the same blitz. And it's a four week blitz. I can get. get into it if you want. But what it is that it's a rule breaking blitz. And what a quarterback has to do do or a center has to do is change the slide or throw hot off of it. And he doesn't do that. And he says

like 200 starts and why it's even more frustrating is Bo Nix did it. We have frustrations with Bo Nix now he sees the game. He pointed a side adjust to Jalen Waddle in week of one. And Aaron Rogers, who has all these dozens and dozens of starts isn't doing that. So it's kind of one of these where I'm like, what do you what do you do here Aaron Rogers right now in 2026 and yeah, kind of a little disappointing right now. Mike Sano had a note in his pick six column this morning, whereas if you look at expected points

added for Rogers, obviously a quarterback, he's had 18 seasons. You look at the first two-week numbers at EPA. This year right now, he's at negative 39.3. The second worst first two weeks of a season for Rogers was negative 5.6. So this is as bad as it is,

it's even worse. Okay. where it's too early for this after a one target zero any other stat Tony Snell type line here for Marvin Harrison Jr. Where would he be Tony Snell. Oh, poor Marvin. There's no way this is real. Like there's no way.

And so the question is like where would he be for you personally on most unlikely busts ever? It's I mean if he actually if this trend keeps going, which is right. It's getting there. So it was fun when you posed me the question. It was even though it was like I had like kind of racked my brain, maybe up there with those couple of those lines receivers, Mike Williams, the USC version, Charles Rogers, like Aaron Curry.

I think there's some stuff with Williams and Rogers where you were like, oh, okay. Well, this is why it didn't work out. 250. And Charles Rogers had injuries and other stuff. Shouldn't have stayed in Michigan. Long story short. But it would be up there. I was even just racking names up, like just trying to think, like, because there's not even,

there's just moments of detail. He can't finish through contact, like as far as catching the ball. And it's not been like, oh, it's just like this is a drop. I visit the Cardinals training camp right after he got drafted or the year he was a rookie. And I'm visiting their training camp because I was kind of like, you know, interested in what the Cardinals were doing. I like their defensive coordinator. I thought petting was pretty cool. And this is when Clayton Adams was their old line coach.

And I thought, I'm watching that practice and Kyle were through him three fade balls and he dropped all three. Like he got broken up all three. And I was like, okay, you know, rookie week one of camp, not seen. It's just been consistent. And if you're six four and you can't come down with a ball like that, all right, then you better be crafty route runner. You better be on your P's and Q's and he's just kind of not playing like that. So he would be up there because I thought he was so safe. Receivers are volatile.

But I thought he had such a safe profile. Remember Robert Gallery, O'Lyman from Iowa? I can't believe you because this is the first name I thought of last night when we were texting each other. The first name I thought of was Robert Gallery, which I don't think is fair to Robert Gallery. It's just that I thought that Robert Gallery was going to be like a first ballot Hall of Famer, Iowa, the whole thing. And like he ended up playing in the league. I'll give you a guard. the fact that Chance Warmac was done after like five years blows my fucking mind.

Yeah, that's another one. He was disgusting in college. Yes, and Mike. And also, like, got himself back into shape. I don't know. Like, yeah, he was a weird one. What was, um, but Cooper went ahead of him. So I don't know if like that was the warning that year.

Remember Jonathan Cooper? He was from North Carolina. Mm-hmm. You know of the other safeties I thought of? And this guy didn't go. I was Michael Huff. Oh, Michael Hough, great shout. It was when the Seahawks took, you were talking about like, this was the warning sign.

When the Seahawks took Earl Thomas. Yes, yes, in front of the USC kid, Taylor Mays. Yeah, Taylor Mays. And everyone was like, what? Taylor Mays, this guy's changing the safety position. And Pete Carroll coached him at USC and took Earl Thomas over him. I remember that being like, that's interesting. That's, yeah, that's really interesting, especially with, I think it was his first, first,

first rounder Pete Carroll had. But the guy year before, Aaron Curry. Aaron Curry was the year before to Seahawks. He was supposed to be the safe linebacker from Wake Forest. Wait. Yeah. Number four overall pick. And he was out of the league like in four years. That was that was another one that came to mind for me. But then yeah. Then there's like not bust but underwhelming when you thought they would be like stars like Peter Warwick. Peter Warwick. Reggie Bush. Michael Crabtree. Sammy Watkins. Mark Barron. is a good one. Mark Barron was another one. He was supposed to kind of reinvent the safety position,

like all that stuff. Those are kind of some of the names came to mind. Trent Richardson, guys that were kind of like, ah, yeah, four are so high with these guys and kind of just didn't become anything. I can't believe you brought Robert Dallery because I'm like, I just don't think that that's fair because he still played 100 games. And, you know, he immediately, what, after three years, I mean, you think you have a tackle for the rest of, you know, 15 years. And you're like, Actually, he's going to play guard in his fourth year, but that was always the Mel Kuiper thing was like, if you miss on a tackle, you can just make him a guard? And it's like, well, hey, if we're taking him with two or three, can I not have to, like, that doesn't feel like that picks after him. Oh, yeah.

Larry Fitzgerald, Philip Rogers, Sean Taylor, Kellynne Winslow the second. Kind of can be one. Roy Williams, DeAngelo Hall, Big Ben, Jonathan Vilma, Tommy Harris. Like, there's some dudes that got, I mean, you're not going to take linebacker two or anything, but that was a loaded class after him. Glenn Dorsey, I thought, was going to be a lot better. But he played. But I meant like it's the same thing as gallery is that, hey, you guys are being unfair. Like this guy played a million seasons and all this different stuff.

It's like, no, no, no, go back to that pre-draft stuff of like gallery is the cleanest prospect. So I wasn't even going to say him because I'm like, it's still not fair because he's played all these games. Trent, I think is a good one. Yeah. B-A-M-F-T-R on the B-A-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-ageage-B-Message boards back then. But I talked to somebody who played with him with, I forget which stop it was. I think it was after the Colts had traded for him. And yeah, yeah, that was like, we had a good grade on him. Why are you willing to give them up so quickly, Browns who need all the talent they can get?

Yeah, I know that. The first guy never got him ever in college. And then when I talked to somebody who played with him, I said, what happened there? And they go, you know, he wasn't actually like the quickest dude. There was no like raw speed thing there. So if he got a little bit heavy, if he just got like a little bit heavier, then that stuff wasn't going to translate because then he was just going to be like a target back there

because he wasn't this make you miss dude at all. And apparently he did get a little bit more than just a little bit heavier. All right. Ron Dane. What's that? Ron Dane. That was another one I kind of thought off to.

Another quick hitter. Who had a better draft class? The Browns or the Chish? Chiefs because I'm trying to figure this out because I think both of these teams have I mean the Browns have done two in a row I think but the chief no one drafts better though than Brett Veach with his back against the wall that guy that guy comes out shooting mansor Delane Peter Woods R Mason Thomas like I think he got three true needle moving guys on defense that needed needle moving guys on defense and then the Browns Denzel Boston looks like a stud Casey Concepcion looks a lot of fun I thought they nailed the Austin Barber pick, who was their third rounder. They bumped him into guard, and he's actually looks like their best offense alignment. I'm going to pat myself on the back. I had a top 50 grade on him.

And then Spencer Fano, I don't think he can hang at tackle, but they're going to try him. But I think his best position will end up being on the inside. Just the lack of length is kind of showing up with the bull rushes. But he doesn't look bad. Like it's like, no, you can play. You just might have some limitations on the outside there. But like, I think the Browns have now nailed two draft classes in a REL Harold Fanon last year. I think Junkins is actually really good.

Penn State tape. The safety from Toledo, who everybody was super hot on too, but look, I have not. I've not locked in to the secondary tape for the Browns first two weeks in the season. You haven't? All right. I haven't.

I'll put it on your list. Here's one, and I think I already know what's going to happen here. He's going to get the extension. But do you extend Jaden Daniels with the quarterback market number of, like, north of 60 million a year? So he had that incredible rookie year. The fact that the Washington commanders played in the NSC title game 20 months ago seems like the fakesest statement ever, but it's real. It happened. You can look it up. He played seven games last season. And, you know, look, he's always scared me because he wants to bail and because of his frame. To be fair to him, he was fantastic again on the ground. He was not hit on the play where he dislocates his elbow. He gets tangled up with his offensive lineman getting into their set.

And then he falls down, left elbow dislocates Tom Brady's shit on the air, which I actually kind of lightens. Very human moment. And then he apologized. But depending on how long this injury takes, we'd be talking about Jaden playing 26 and maybe like 26 of his first 40 games. Maybe that's best case scenario. I can't help, but as good as he was at LSU, I'm like, I just, there's something about the approach to the way he plays the game that I wonder if that rookie year will feel fluky, but will the rookie year do enough for a Washington franchise that, you know, the RG3 thing was a mess in a bunch of different ways, the Kirk Cousins thing, letting him bounce.

Like, would they go, hey, we spent the money on him, or excuse me, we spent the pick on him, let's spend the money on him. Like, it feels like he probably gets the extension, and I'd be scared of death to give it to him. Well, and also on top of it, if they do move on from Dan Quinn after this year, like having him as a should be a selling point for if you want to try. a new coach, you know, and having him. But he's got to change his play style. He has to.

And this is a history of time thing. He was already an outlier for me. I wasn't, I had, you know, border to one what I, it's a first round grade. But I had him a little lower than like the consensus when he came out just because he was such an outlier with a scramble rate because of his size. And it's a combat sport. And people want to wave away size all the time. And then you see these guys, you know, get hurt all the time.

And when I say 205 is usually my threshold because that's where light heavy weights and heavy weights cut off in combat sports. But he might be a welterweight right now. And if he wants to, yes, you can win this way. You can win being undersized. You just can't take that many hits. And when he gets pressured and when he scrambles, he scrambles, he scrambles to run. And he has never been a scramble to thrower. And this is good.

And he hasn't changed his play style at all, like from college. He had, I mean, it was productive yesterday. and he avoided those hits yesterday, and I hate it. Like, while it's happening and it's working, the spin move that he had against Philadelphia in week one, I'm like, that's insane. It was a double spin move. I hate it every time. I know.

And that's the thing. It's like he's chasing the sugar. Like, it's like, no, no, no. Like, I get it. Like, I know that's a good play. But again, over time, this isn't going to work. It just doesn't. Guys have to throttle it down.

And coming out of college, I look back, and this is, I look back in my little report on him. So since 2019, which is far back. as I could look and for FBS quarterbacks, no quarterback scrambled more ever than Jane Daniels. 258 scrambles he had in college. So those are hits that add up too. 258 and no one else was above 200 over that time period. So it wasn't even, again, not even close. And then if you just even look, so the rate was 14%.

And the guys, the other guys that had a high rate were a little bit bulkier. And another thing as I looked is that he takes a lot of sacks as well. If you're going to take a lot of sacks, you have to, offset it with explosive plays or pushing the football down the field. When he gets pressured or gets that he throws underneath and throws short. So the math game over time doesn't really add up. And so he has to change his playing style. He just does.

I like it has to be a little bit more of a nickel and dime. He has to learn how to play from the pocket yet and sprinkle in the scrambles like Lamar has as, hey, third next to long, let's create a play. Like Janehan Hertz kind of actually. Like watch Jaylon Hertz on third down. He's like, okay, it's scramble time a little bit. Like, you know, because those are good ways to, you know, convert on third and eight and third and ten. So he just has to.

And or he has to drink about 200 grams of protein a day and just bulk up. He has to. It's just physics. And now we got enough proof of concept last year. You got three different injuries on top of the elbow. So it wasn't just one injury that's got it. So yeah, it was a non-contact thing. I think Dan Quinn's getting crushed unfairly for it because it was such a freak thing.

But again, when you. you're doing it a couple times. It's like, man, can your body even just hold up in this game? I don't like the end of half, fourth down thing, but I totally understand being like, hey, Dallas is going to score 30 plus. Yeah, you're going to track me. You got any points. I wouldn't. I don't think you should be critical of it at all. All right. Let's do one more each here. Okay. I am mine. I think I got to all mine, actually. I think those are my three quick hitters, but I know what your last one is. I want to see Carly.

Eursay's notes. I want to know what these notes are. If I, you know, I'm one who takes notes, if somebody grabbed one of my legal pads and it just said that Russell Westbrook had an absurd outlier usage rate in 2017 line after line after line. You'd be like, well, your notes are, you know, this is shining type shit here. It's very performative to me. I think her announcement is performative to the Colts fans that want her to be the hero for a team that is going through a disappointing run. People can say that I'm only saying it because she's a woman would be total bullshit because Boston made fun of Robert Kraft forever because he brought a stopwatch to a workout like post-parcells. He started walking around. Yeah, go look it up. I was looking at it again this

morning. He walked around with the stopwatch and was manually timing people at workouts. He called to Bucky Jones a press corner when he played safety. So it was like Robert Kraft once he brought Belichick in because if Kent Pellichick wasn't going to let him do this stuff, was like, whatever you've been doing here. And like, that was part of the Parcell's divorce, right? The whole, if you want me to cook the dinner, at least let me pick out the groceries here a little bit. So I think if she's going to be on the sideline taking notes,

which I think is really shitty to do to your employees, I remember I worked with a different radio manager who also sucked tremendously. And he decided to come in on a solo show when I was a fill-in, and he sat next to me while I was on the fucking air and took notes about everything that I was saying. He sat next to me in the co-host chair while I'm on air, not just to America, the entire world. ESPNRadio.com.

You know, so I'm sitting there completely like, no, I'm in over my head. I'm trying out. Not try out, but I'd been there. I'd get a shift. I might not get his shift for another six weeks. And he was sitting there looking at me. And then he would actually like, if I made a good point,

he'd be like, okay. And if you made a point, he didn't like, he'd be like, and then he would write something down, like Colin Farrell in season two of True Detective talking to his son. So I'm like, when I see her do it, I want to know, what are you writing down? You're right. That's it. What are you writing down so that we have a better sense of what it is you're actually evaluating? Share the notes. Is it like Jackie Treehorn's drawing and Bigelowowski? That's kind of what I think, you know, it's just that. Well, and also,

top of it. And this actually, you know, talk about Big Dom and the Eagles, Eagles land, sorry to bring him up as well. But the teams only, you only have so many headsets. So like if she wears a headset, she's the owner. She can do whatever she wants. I get that. She takes away a headset from a coach or somebody else that could use a headset because there's a limit to how many headsets. It's an NFL rule because otherwise there's just, you know, you have 500 assistants have headsets. So that always cracks me up too, like when those extra guys get headsets, they name coach doma as a coach so he can wear that set and be on the sideline as well but i just think that's curious because also if you're listening to everything like do you actually know what the play calls are

like there's a lot of verbiage and even me who's been around it like like like so she hears a play she's just like hmm like zoro you know like just right now like keywords that's why we need to see the notes i know is she playing bingo like you just waiting for like oh oh okay trips okay i heard trips there and she's like crossing it off now i'm right there with you. I hate owners on the sideline. It's, it's, hey, you hire these people to, to coach and do your game. Don't put extra pressure with them being on the sideline. I hate when owners come down the second half. It's always been something I hate in the fourth quarter, because they want to be part of the, what about the fourth quarter, though? I think I can,

I think if you want to come down at the end of the fourth quarter, I think I'm okay with that one. I know. Arthur Blank used to stand in the back at least, right? Yes. Yeah, Arthur, yeah. And I mean, but also felt like it jinks every time he did it. Maybe it was just because the Falcons were pretty cursed for a while or still are. Hey, I'm like a zero, zero plays run in the red zone so far. Hey, they were 20 to one to be the number one pick and I was,

talented. I was talented. I was like, have you guys looked at this quarterback situation? Have you looked at their pastures? I don't know. Boy, Strand got in. You did through a pick just like Brett Farf,

on his first pass at time. Pick six on his first pass at time. He's Brett Farve and reincarnate it. But no, all of fame, 2041. That's it. baby. Yeah, he just has to go to Green Bay. He'll replace Jordan Love in about 10 years.

All right. All right. I think that'll do it for the show. Good stuff. That's for Nate Tice. Football 301 Yahoo Sports. Talk to your week three. Raising Cains. And as you know, if you listen to the pod, started by our good friend Todd Graves down in Baton Rouge. Look, if you're ordering canes, you already know the move. You get the box combo. That's four hand-battered chicken fingers, golden crinkle cut fries, Texas toast, a cytokane sauce. They stick strictly to high quality chicken finger meals, made fresh and cooked to order, pair it with a freshly squeezed lemonade or iced tea, and you're set. I still have a lemonade in my fridge right now.

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trying to get revenge against LSU. And the atmosphere, I've been to that stadium, I've been to a bunch of the stadiums. It's something about the South. Man, I'm just telling you, like, the atmosphere sticks to you in a way that you have to get rid of with, like, two showers. It felt like a Roman Coliseum,

where it was like, okay. Like, everything matters. And yet, at the same time, I was like, I don't know how much any of this will matter. Like, for a night, it mattered. All week in Mississippi, it matters. It certainly matters in LSU. But, like, this could be an event

where you look back and be like, oh, that was a huge deal. and it might not really even mean anything. And maybe that dawned on me because I was watching Kiffin in the tunnel get ready to come out on the field. He's kind of just adjusting his belt, getting ready. He'd been booed like crazy.

I completely understand. I'm not even saying that Ole Miss fans shouldn't hate the guy. But I wondered if Kiffin really cared or if he's even capable of caring. Because people can say like, well, I want to try to never care what people think. We're like, never?

You never do? I don't think never is the approach. but there are times where I admire someone who literally just doesn't care. And for Kiffin, as I'm watching him, like, will any of this, like all of this bullshit, all of the stuff that we've talked about for a year here, does any of this really matter? Not to be a nihilist about the whole thing, although I wonder if Kiffin is at times. Because Kiffin, despite how gross this exit was, his team heading into the playoffs and being like, you're going to do this now.

He did it because the LSU job's a better job. Everybody knows it. It's a better job. And he wanted a better job. It's a job that he's wanted for years, despite his success at Ole Miss. And LSU was happy to welcome him in, and we'll see, right? But this sport of college football that, if you really want to be negative about it, is an impossibly gross sport, right?

Like, nothing is sacred anymore. And you have coaches demanding sacrifice from players, the same sacrifice that almost none of these coaches that ever make now. Now they're going to say, well, hey, I was sleeping on a couch as a grad assistant, so now it's your time to suffer, which happens in a lot of different industries, right? But that coached a player, the promise, you're going to do this, you're going to be that. You have to do this for the betterment of the team. You have to do all these things.

And it's like, peace, I'm out of here. It's a sport that doesn't care about allies, the alliance between the Big Ten and the fact 12, just one of many things I could reference here. It doesn't care about tradition. It doesn't care about any of this stuff anymore, all right? Because the goal is every single last television doll. Now, we hear NFL players somehow attempt to be profound, and really pro athletes do this in general, where they're sitting there on the couch, doing a podcast, they're like, well, you know it's a business. But like, no shit. I've only heard it a thousand times. Well, if the NFL is a business, then college football is organized crime,

and the SEC is the Sicilian stuff that Henry Hill references in Goodfellas. But for a night, it felt like it was a win for righteousness because Old Miss beating LSU was the right thing. It was the right thing considering this story. And I'm happy for Old Miss. They should have won.

Everyone that was neutral should have been rooting for Old Miss, and they answered it. Because on a Saturday of watching quarterbacks, and I know I will always like Saturday more than Sunday. However, when somebody who loves Sunday, and it's not just like, you know, hey, I've got a fantasy team and I bought a jersey and that kind of stuff, I'm talking like the guys that are really into it.

Like, why would you like that version of the sport better than this version of the sport? Because I'll admit, and it kind of happened to me yesterday, or Saturday. You're watching the college quarterback. He looks to the sideline, helpless. I don't even think they, I don't know what's happening. the development of the quarterback thing. Not that there's now more bust than there used to be, because I've already covered that, but the training wheels that these, these offensive coaches

will not take off of some of these quarterbacks. It's actually making them worse. Like, okay, the reads will be easier, but you're actually going to be worse at this stuff. So whether it's a quarterback dropping back with all this physical talent, where he only wants to run, or he looks at one receiver, or he throws a fucking screen that you're like, are you trying to end your teammates career. Like you can't, you can't drop back and then go, oh, no, he's going to get killed if I throw him this bubble screen. He's like, no, man, that's the call. One where you can get the ball out. I was, I was thrilled to watch Carson Wentz throw it in the dirt in front of a running back that was going to get killed on a screen that got blown up. Like, the defense just had a great

call in. Wentz dropped back. He was like, this isn't even going to work. And he threw it like three yards in front of his running back. I'm like, my God, that was great. And then on Saturday night, you get to watch Trinidad Chamble's, who is not any of those things that I talk about as much as I love Saturday and how frustrated I get with the quarterback position because he doesn't do any of those things. He drops back. He makes reads. And yes, I know he's old, but it's not like he was in a power four program the entire time. I mean, this guy's story is incredible. He's the best quarterback in college football right now. I don't know if that means he's going to be the highest draft pick out of those guys, and right now I don't care about that.

Because watching him, how about this? On his first eight third down throws, he was eight for eight. I knew that Ole Miss had the better quarterback. I knew they had the better running back, even though Lacey left the game. I know that they had the better number one of a receiver, even though Ray ended up kind of being the star over Deuce. But I didn't think Ole Miss was going to win the line of scrimmage. And they kicked LSU's ass in the first half, whether it was all line issues for LSU

or the defensive line, which is loaded, that front seven for LSU should be a real weapon for them. And in the first half, it was generally neutralized and whether it was great protection or Chambliss knowing what he could or couldn't do on every single dropback and throwing it into windows that you just don't expect. And him responding. They go up 17-0, right?

LSU puts together a really nice drive. I'm like, all right, well, they're still hanging around. Like, we just watched Texas come back against Ohio State. like this thing has gone bad, but it's not impossible. And then what does Chambliss do? He responds immediately. In the second half, LSU figured out some stuff on defense. Levitt made some plays, even though I had his unofficial count of 11 bails on my notes.

You may have a different count. It drives me crazy because he's really good at it. But I'm talking not design QB runs. I'm not talking extending the play. I'm talking Levitt early in that game just was bailing on pockets all over the place. It's just something that he's going to do because so often it kind of works out for him, but it didn't work out certainly in the first half. So LSU gets back in this game, they tie this thing up.

And then it's like, actually, that it factor that you talk about, that none of us really know how to perfectly define with words, but we know exactly what we're talking about it when we watch it on TV. And it's like, what did you think was going to happen? Even when LSU tied it up. I'm like, I don't know. I still imagine Chambers is just going to figure this thing out. It goes right back down to the field.

And then when he runs it around everybody, you know, I, I was really curious to see what the LSU sideline was going to be like. If there were some sort of contain that was broken, which it sort of was, but if it was just a mix-up, and Kiffin just kind of nodded in a way that told me, he's like, nope, turn to that. Like, I'm the guy that brought him here. Like, this is the guy that I coached. And that's not very surprising that he made another play this time with his legs

when his team needed him to respond. So on Saturday night, it felt like a win for what's right. it's good that Ole Miss beat Lane Kiffin when he left them the way that he did. You know, that's something that we should all be rooting for, especially for a sport that's so often flaunts that it doesn't care about right and wrong. Today's life advice is presented by YouTube TV. With NFL Sunday ticket and YouTube TV, it doesn't matter who's coming over, and it doesn't matter what team they love and need to see.

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And best of all, kids, I am liquid. So, now you know what's possible. let me tell you what's required. Life advice, life advice, RR at gmail.com. Kyle is here. Very happy. Back in the winner's column. Yeah, man.

That must have felt good. Nothing like a little Aaron Rogers to make you feel better. Ooh, I thought he was dead for a second. I'm glad he's okay. I know. I thought he was, no one will ever question that dude's toughness.

My gosh, no. He even talked about it too. It was, I don't know if he was throwing dudes under the bus there, but he was just like, you know, usually you get a feeling, you know, when one of those happens, but clearly some miscommunication on that one. I was like, well, I did go watch for that moment to see what he was going to say. And I thought for the most part, he was pretty diplomatic about it, even though historically, he's usually never afraid.

Usually he was so nasty that it likely was everyone else's fault. But, yeah, he's here too. How about your Niners? I'm a fake Niners fan, dude. Don't worry about it. I've just become, you know, I don't know. The NFL has been, the light, my love of, like, a specific team has been sucked out of me. I just, I'm here for the vibes, dude.

Yeah. Right. Like, I don't know. It didn't work for the magic. I don't know why. Like, I still love the magic, probably because they've been bad for my. So it's not like, I don't know. It's like a badge of honor for you.

I'm just waiting for something good to happen. But the nineer thing, yeah, like, I don't know. I'm trying to think the last time I was like really into a nineers game was years and years and years ago. So it was a capernick. That Super Bowl was a bummer for me. Did you stop watching? Yeah. Yeah, I was out.

Can't support that stuff. No. I ran into somebody the other night that told me they don't watch anymore. I was like, oh, shit. People still doing that. Oh, there's a lot. There's a few. I mean, it's a friend.

So, and I kind of know whose deal. So I was kind of like, yeah, no, I get it. And I just kind of let it. I was like, I don't write follow-ups because Kaepernick did the 10-year run. And we still, we have the street going at nine straight years of like week seven, week eight, when there's a backup in that stinks. And then somebody who's a legitimate media member does like, this guy's playing. but Kaepernick can't and you're like it's been 10 years man that shit still kind of hits though

it does hit it does really well i just like to i just know how much longer we can go like i probably figured after six or seven years it wouldn't keep happening um and it and it does and it will somebody somebody will say it earnestly and people would be like yeah great point i mean he did the whole sit down because it was the 10 year thing and he was like i'm still training i'm still ready Yeah, why doesn't the anchor go, hey, man, really? It's been a decade. Wow. I think I know your answer, but.

Yeah. No, that's fine. That's who they're talking. Anyway. Yeah, anyway. But no, it's a bummer. It's, yeah. So shout out to that.

I mean, I don't root against the Niners. The problem is, like, I love Stafford so much. Like, again, I'm going to get crucified for this. But, like, I love Stafford so much. I was such a Stafford Stan for, like, the longest time that, like, I root for him kind of personally. And it was cool. We had him on the show.

And that goes against everything, like, fandom. should be, right? I shouldn't be rooting for a team in the own division. So I'm just talking myself. I'm digging my own grave here. But if you're being honest and we appreciate that. I'm thinking about going to the game tonight. Yeah. Arbonne. Maybe.

Which one though? I will say that text thread though that you put, I mean, you texted us yesterday about Rogers, whatever, and then you immediately brought back the shirtless photo and just it put me off. I'm going to be honest. I just didn't respond. I was just like, I'm good. We were also a little busy yesterday. We did do Vassini's first shows.

and check that out. Yeah. But I did see the text and then I didn't want to discourage, you know, texting's good, you know, for this group. I didn't want to discourage anything.

So I, too, left it alone, but I was busy. All right. I'm going to share this. I've been texting Shane Gillis like once every six months, just pictures of myself doing things.

And I don't think we're friends. Okay. And I think it's the funniest thing. And I don't, I don't think he does. And I'm, I'm probably going to do it every six to eight months, just randomly. And I laugh every time I do it.

And I don't think he does. If there are a line that you don't cross, like, will you send him the one that you sent us? Or are you like, no, dude, that circle of trust. Probably not that one. Probably not that one. Probably not that one. Do you think his number, your contact is saved and his phone?

Dude, that would be weird if you're not. But that would be crazy. I didn't realize how insulting that was to people. It is because I'm the king of that. Yeah. Yeah. I got family that I'm doing that too right now. I mean, I'm slowly working through the group chats and be like, who is this?

Ryan saves like four numbers and he'll text me with somebody like blatantly obvious that we are like friends with. And he's like, who's this? Like this so and so. How do you not? How is your life easier by not saving this number? Keeping you on your toes. State of mind, dude. Yeah.

It's a lifestyle, really. I also do need to shave every day in the last week. I'm like, you're going to move on from whatever this is. Stepdad. Is your stepdad? The guy with a Camero in town? Whatever's going on here. That just made me realize, has there ever been a car that you've wanted that you still kind of want,

but you feel like you've grown out of a little bit? Grown out of? I don't think so. See, that's even a better answer. A shitty rusty Jeep? I don't know. Does anyone grow up? of those like i don't know you ever drive one on the highway for a few hours yes i get over

pretty quick it was a liberty though you know i wasn't proud of that one but yeah the the Cherokee like a nice old one boxy heavy doors yeah i still think about the wagon ear hmm i haven't really thought about the waggoner i've got a very specific one you know two colorways maybe that burgundy or that that forest green with the gold stripe on it that's still pretty high up there for me so the grand Cherokee the 90s grand cherokee the 90s grand Yeah. That's my first car. It was a hot car back.

Some guys get all the left. White 94. That thing, I told, I told the story, like, eight miles of the gallon. I did cash for clunkers. I got like eight grand for that car, shout out to Obama. And never look back. Great investment. It's crazy, man.

Just stop watching the NFL because of Kaepernick. And now you're shitting on. You can't figure me out. You can't pin me down. Yeah, I can't. What do with this guy? All right. Let's read some emails.

Skipping my girlfriend's family members' funeral. Sounds like a good start. Gentlemen, I'm at a loss in this situation. I'm very interested in receiving your opinions on the matter as I expect some differing beliefs on this one. My girlfriend and I are going to my friend's wedding. We live, well, I'm not going to give many locations away. Let's just say it's a cross-country trip.

And since we've both had an insanely busy work year, weddings and life in general, we decided to turn the wedding into a mini-vacad vacation. stay Thursday through Monday. That makes sense. The wedding's on a Saturday, which leaves us all Friday and Sunday to do our thing. Then my girlfriend finds out that her mom's cousin

or something along the line. What a great read by you. Or something like that. Just going to tell our guy maybe to clean up the messaging perhaps. But look, he's talking to his buddies here. Figure out the lineage just before you show up if you do. Yeah. Something. I don't think of a divorce. and I'm not even sure.

All right, is having a funeral back home on that Sunday. So that's why I was providing locations. I just don't like to give too much away here. But I think everybody's able to follow along the place they're living, flying cross-country, going to hang out this other place, get a couple extra days, except this person or someone apparently has died. And there's going to be a funeral. Yeah, I don't.

I'm not trying to be funny about it. All right. she informs me via text and I ask, quote, are you feeling like you don't want to go to the wedding anymore? Or how are you feeling? She simply promptly responds, I feel like you don't want me to come.

I reassure her that obviously I want her there, but I do feel guilt for dragging her to three weddings this summer. And then this one across the country, so I do want to grant her an out if needed. Next day we're having lunch. She starts talking about 5 a.m. out of the wedding destination on that Sunday after the wedding, so that would get her back to the other coast. It's around 11 a.m. for a 2 p.m. funeral. So they'd be going east to west. Boy, that's a tough one, though. And then she asks, if I have travel insurance and whether I think we should change our flights. I'm thinking, wait, our flights, which I guess she could read from my facial reaction. She then asks, what, you don't want to go to the service?

where I then say, of course I do. It just sounds like a brutal dick. You're not wrong. It's a no-win situation here. It's tough because you're dragging her to three weddings that, you know, we know how dudes feel about. This is number four. Plus wet, you know how dudes feel about plus ones and they're like,

this has to be for real. So like, you know, basically cemented as somebody who goes to important things. So continue. There's the issue. I didn't even consider that I would be. going to this funeral. I've never met her mom's cousin. My girlfriend has barely ever mentioned her prior to her passing. I completely understand my girlfriend wants me there under normal circumstances. I would be there. No questions asked. But am I actually expected to take a 5 am. flight across the

country to attend the funeral of someone I've never met the morning after a wedding and cutting are a mini vacation short? Is there a reasonable middle ground here I can propose or do I have to chalk this one up to the game? It's a bummer because you're not going to score many points. for going, but you could totally just lose, I mean, you're hemorrhaging points by not, you know? Like, oh, yeah, he's actually still at the B&B. He'll be a long tomorrow. Because the other thing is you're going home, right? This is home. This isn't like, yeah, he couldn't make it to Chicago. You know, he's got something going on. It's like he just didn't want, didn't want to be bothered. And I'd say if you're going to be in it for the long haul, like, yeah, it's not about the person

who passed funos are usually for everyone else. Unfortunately, that's just the rule. So, I wouldn't try to rationalize your way out of it. If you're not going, I guess respected, but I don't think I would have the stomach to do it. I think I just lose to vacate. This is kind of part of being in a family. If you're headed that way, it's just kind of the type of shit you're going to have to do.

Right. This is, I think most people, neutrals would read this and go, you're not in the wrong. I think we all agree that he's not wrong to go, what? Go ahead. But it kind of,

it all hinges on how the other person's taking the situation and she's clearly taking it very seriously and doesn't think there's any like outs for you. So there's just no outs for you. I think this is just going to have to be the situation. It sucks. I think everyone would tell you it sucks, but like it's really not worth like you you can't come across as like the guy who poo is a funeral. Like it just can't be your thing like in general. It's a tough stuff. Yeah. Even though again, I support. He's never there for me after a death. Yeah. But he's a great earner.

You don't get a lot of those chances to, like, show up for someone, you know? Right. So fortunately, yeah, this is, uh, this is an L. Yeah, I mean, this really depends on her, too. Like, some guys are out there with just the most chill, significant other ever. Yeah. And if this wedding is super important to our guy emailing here, it's like, okay, well, you're going to the wedding.

Like, I don't want to disrupt that. So, like, maybe you go solo. Or I'll just deal. with this or whatever. But the fact that it's a cross-country flight and a great point by Kyle, you're going back to where you live. There's not really any out. And reading this email, I get a sense that I'm not saying, like, I'm not being critical of her, but I'll never forget, like there was somebody in my past where I went on a trip and they just said, well, wait, you just go where you want whenever you want to.

I was like, yeah, what the fuck? That's the program. Yeah. What did you think this? Like, what were you? Because again, the person was working nonstop. We had no plans. I bolted for three and a half days for a golf trip.

And then it was, it was very, very early. And I was just like, oh, yeah, I headed out to, you know, wherever I went. And they were like, wait, you just, you just do that. Like, not very often. But yeah, I had a window. It was super important to me. It was kind of this special thing. And yeah, and I'll be, I'll be back Saturday night or Sunday whenever I came back or something like that. I was like, it's not, you know, I'll see in four dates. It's not going to be that big of a deal. And it made me realize. I'm like, oh, it's not even about what this is. It's kind of like a bit of a warning. And I think there's two things here that concern me about why you're definitely going to have to do this. Is that. that if she's dropping a, you don't even want me to go to the wedding. Huge bummer. Yeah.

Vibe assassin right there. That is crazy. Because again, it is a good gesture by you. Like, it is a good gesture to be like, hey, there's a lot going on. If you don't want to go. Yeah. That is, again, a nice thing, but it could also go the wrong way, depending on how you handle it. I probably would have done the same thing he did be like, well, listen, like, I'm cementing that I'm going to this thing, you know, tickets, hotel rooms, gifts.

bought paid for. But yeah, I would give the out and I would be dealing with the same, do you want me to go sort of deal. So, because if this is a direct route from, are you feeling like you don't want to go to the wedding anymore or how are you feeling? And then she goes, I feel like you don't want me to come. We only have what you're sharing from, but if that took less than a second to get that response after you just being like, hey, how are you feeling like you don't want to go? I'm not saying that she sounds, difficult or needy or anything like that. Because again, I don't want, like, someone just died.

So you have to be there for her, even if it's an inconvenience to you. So you're going to that funeral man. So like there's that. So we could just kind of put that one a bit. But that scares me a little bit. If she's taking the express, the commuter lane to, well, you don't want me to go now. And it's like, whoa, whoa, wait. Like, all I'm asking is if you don't feel like you're,

up to it with everything that's going on. So if you go to the wedding, your Sunday's going to be pretty tough. But not as, you know, there's a lot. Not as tough of the rest of the week if you don't go to the funeral. I mean, I'm afraid you've done damage here based on her grading system. And, you know, you're going to go to the wedding. You're going to be great. You're going to get up.

You're going to go back. You're going to go to the funeral. you're going to do everything that you possibly wanted you to do. And then Sunday night's going to be like, I really don't like how these past few days have gone. And you're just going to go, you know, luckily this weekend just for a par. It's like, really?

That's par. Yeah. I'm going to swear I was shooting Bertie there. We got an update from the guy that was wondering if he broke into a girl's apartment. Yes. It went well. We've been on more dates and both made some breaking in jokes. I didn't lock the door because I wasn't sure.

she had a key. The vase was a quick find. It was just drying on the counter so I didn't have to rummage. I grew up in a house that my friends would be watching games in my basement before I got home without telling me. So it didn't quite register until it was too late for me, L.O.L. But we're all good now. Here's our immediate response. Oh, my God, all caps. That's good. I just got home. You completely made my day. Thank you so much for the flowers and pretzels. They were pretzels from Trader Joe's, just so everybody knows now. I'm so getting it. R-N that's a good sign

I'm a ignore that fact that you broke into my house but no seriously the sweetest thing anyone has ever done from you

has ever done for me thank you we'll leave out his name heart emojis we got a response pick attached below

I think I dodge a bullet so I think he's good yeah me too best case scenario the jokes are a great side great great move something tells me she wouldn't make you go to the funeral, man.

She's a keeper, yeah. Come on, don't bump this guy out anymore than he is. All right, we covered that one. Sometimes I get lost and all the all right. A hair one. This one's directed just at me, I guess. Ryan 5'8-150 mountain athlete

in the roaring fork Valley. Working, well, I think he wants us to leave that out, but I've been to where he lives and works, and it's an awesome part of the country. Where outdoor pursuit, ski, bike, run, fish are much more enjoyable than the gym. It's been a few years since I decided to take the hair down. But now I find myself in hair purgatory. After coming to grips, the hair was not coming back.

I clipped on the number one guard and took it down. For a while, it didn't look too bad. I would even have the delusional thoughts I could grow this out. that's a wild time. I remember my sister was like, I don't grow back. I'm like, what are you talking about? Does it? Like, imagine the talk show circuit you'd be on and be like, yeah, I just kind of grew back.

Yeah, it's like the dudes. I remember the dudes in, like, in high school who were like trying to figure out the beard situation. But yeah, if you just shave it a bunch of times, it just grows back thicker. You're like, oh, yeah, so we just had dude shaving like every hour. Like, just trying to get that. There's still some people that, like, stick to that, you know? I wish. There's a chest hair thing that I think is true with that one.

It is not true. It's debunk. I've actually looked at this. Yeah, it just grows back like it feels thicker because it's like a stub. So it grows, but it's thick. It's a thick piece of hair that's growing instead of like the end tip kind of thing. I don't know. Science.

It's just not going to take your word for it. Do your own research, folks. I didn't think I was going to be a chest hair guy. But I think I shaved it when I was young. And here we are. And I got to cycle in and out of this Tom Selleck world. Like sometimes it's hot. Sometimes it isn't.

So I don't know what to do. As time passes, the two-car garage starts to look a little empty. And I moved on to stage two with no guard, metal clippers to skin. But now I find myself staring at a charred landscape after a wildfire with a few sprigs of hair remaining. I can't bring myself to take a razor to the entire head. and my work life provides cover with a hard hat so daily life isn't so bad at least you're not on tv with a jib cam float behind you it's the occasional social engagement where the five eight height couple with some random hair sprouts i find myself contemplating a self-induced tonshire

with uh with hollawing coming up maybe i can test the waters as a fryer man that is leaning into it if you were going to go fryer tuck on that one Uh, man, look, I think you've already kind of like done a great job to this point. You know, I don't, when I see guys hanging on for a little bit and people give them a hard time, I'm like, let them fucking be, man. They're on their own journey right now. You know, it's already going to be bad. It's already been bad. And you're fucking rooting against the guy.

Yeah. Like, stop it. And that's what I felt. So people were so happy. first college reunion. They're like, fuck, ah,

Riscilla sucks. Like, if there's ever, anyone deserve this, it's him. So then I'm just looking around, be like, all you guys are going to be better off with this?

Like, isn't it kind of funny, though? Like, I feel like, like, and I haven't gone through this, but.

How amazing I am now? No, I remember seeing you for the first time. And it blew my mind. And then I was just like, now I'm like, man, I see pictures of your hair.

And I'm like, That's weird. So, but, but I will say, and I think this, you could probably agree to this is that you just, when you're going through something like this and it could be a hair thing, it could be like a big old pimple on your face. You just, you just, you just think every single person is not the same, man. It's not the same. No, no, no, no, I'm not.

Hold on. Let me finish my point. You just think that every single person is like, look at how stupid that person looks. And most of the time, it's actually not that way, but you're in your own head. Now, listen, your friend group and your immediate people, like, they know because they take, they just, they just, they just, they see the changes. We're taking stock all the time. But it is crazy how your brain just immediately like, like, or if you like anything,

like you say something like maybe. You're the main character of your own story. Yeah, you make a joke in a meeting. Yeah, you make a joke in a meeting. You didn't go well and you just think about the rest of the day. And nobody else thinks about that. That's kind of like that's, it's just kind of funny how that works. I think about one manager's bad jokes all the time.

I wanted to know it. Well, they were exceptionally bad. I would, I would assume. That would probably the case, yes. I think you're doing great, man. Seriously. This isn't some support group thing here. But I would tell you, like, when you first start going to the middle shaver, you have to like almost give it an hour and getting some direct light and look at all the stuff that you missed. Okay. And you can do this. But you'll notice like,

and then it's up to you, like, how often you want to do it. Like, I don't, I don't have to go an office or anything like that. I remember I was like a one and then I'd give it a couple weeks. And I remember Stanford receiving like, did you decide to go grow it out? Like, what are you doing? And I'm like, hey, man, it's early for me. Like, I'm at home doing this by myself. Like, this is tough. And when you start crying and the hairs get stuck to your face, like, it's an even more. So I think you're going to be happier, the cleaner that you get it to.

And if you want to leave a little something on the sides, you know, go for it. The razor thing, I just don't feel like the maintenance of the razor thing personally. I just don't feel like doing it. So is it so much that like how often would you say it's required like could you still make a day of it go like have a barber clear and clean your beard up and just do the you know make it exactly or would that just be way too much time in the barbershop how long is it. I don't go to a barbershop that often. I usually just do it home. I should go to the barbershop. Instead, because they clean it all up, you know, the next stuff that you're doing blind back here. Like a little eucalyptus hot towel on the face. That's a nice thing. Yeah. I inhale those things at equinox. The cold ones. I just right in my face. I haven't seen you in a bit. Do you. Do you. blend the beard into the baldness or is it just like a hard stop? I don't really know what I'm doing, man. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I kind of just go like up to them to sides, but in the blending,

there's no blending going on. Nah, it's just a hard line. There's not at home. Yeah, I'm not at home. Yeah. Yeah, even if I go like when I was in France and I went to this woman because I was like, all right, I don't feel like the number of clippers that I bought because I'm like, this will still be cheaper than if you're just gone for a while and then you go into some place.

And she's like, what do you? I'm like, just get it over with is what we want you to do here, ma'am. You can see what I need to get back to. So let's just get there. All right. I think we answered that. Sort of. No.

I don't feel like leaving any is the move, though, right? Like, you don't want to start looking like Jason Alexander here, which, by the way, like, you look back in like the 90s and stuff. Like, people were just afraid to be bald? Like, they just, they were just afraid to be bald, I think. if they would just leave the horseshoe thing around and you're like how is that a better option? The horseshoot thing's sort of crazy.

I'll give you that one, but it was it was kind of accepted for a little while. And I think there's just some people that's like I don't want to not have any. Like on a, you know, NYPD Blue just run the fingers through it. Yeah, and I couldn't blame anyone for having that stance, I think. Same.

You guys can. Jeez, wow. I'm just saying. No, I'm just saying if it, if that's, if you're in this predicament and you're like, yeah, I don't want it to be all gone. If Ryan grew up the horseshoe, you'd be like, if Ryan grew out the horseshoe, you'd be like, yeah, it's not good for you, dude. I would, I'm tempted to just do it for the fuckery of it just to go. I think we've had enough of that with the, uh, the food man shoe. We got to take a break here on the. Hey, let's just try this for a little bit.

I do this once a year. I don't. People always are kind of like, what are you doing? Like, I do it like once a year. This feels long, though. I don't remember it being this. Like, I mean, like, the length of time you've had it for. This is laziness. You're proven something to bugger? Oh, no. You're just, okay. No, this is crazy.

You're like, all right, I just bought myself another week. I can't. Just start all over again and do it tomorrow. I might now that we're talking about it. So, because the problem is I have to, like, let it, the rest come back in before I go back to the whole thing. This isn't the best life advice you ever done. I'll tell you that.

All right. My wife babysat for free. Hey guys, 6-5. By the way, that's not a knock on you. That was a very Aaron Rogers thing. I'm talking about myself here. 6-5-180-notable gym stats, player comp.

Evan Mobley can shoot a three, but better off down low in defense using my athleticism. This guy's a real athlete. I'm emailing because on Saturday night, my wife babysat for a little cousins from 5.30 till midnight. This is not an emergency. They were just hanging out with friends. When my wife's aunt got back, they had some small talk until she ended the conversation with a,

thanks so much as my wife left. There was no agreement to being paid before, but feels like with that sort of commitment before being paid is just a common courtesy, right? For context, we got married about two months ago and her aunt offered to make our wedding cake as a wedding gift. This is a very nice gesture, and we offered a payer, but she refused. This was simply their wedding present to us. is it wrong for her to feel taken advantage of when it is family despite it being the correct thing to do to pay her was she misled into devoting a Saturday

night to a job she was not going to get paid for I suggested sending her on a Venmo request unless your wife is 16 she shouldn't be paid for fucking babysitting I don't think of a different email this is crazy this is crazy

this is worse than the dude giving away his stuff from the registry like what are you doing charge in your family I have one more sentence than serrity for George. I mean, who knows? Maybe I'm wrong again. I'll get yelled at. This is just his Italian sensibilities flaring up. I love it. But is this worse than what she did, meaning sending the Venmo request. Would that be worse than what she did? It's not about the money for us. It's just common courtesy and being generous with each other, especially for family. Let us know your thoughts,

love the show. Surrey? Wait, worse than what she did saying, what, making a wedding cake instead of giving you a gift? No, this full sentence was, I suggested sending her on a Venmo request, but is this worse than what she did, which is tricking her, he has his wife into hanging out with her kids that she likes and she's considering it family time. It doesn't even sound like she thought that she was doing like a favor, right? So that would be silly just because on the back end you found out somebody really appreciated that. I don't know. I wouldn't dig too deep into this one. I mean, she might have duped you. I don't know. I guess how does your how does your wife feel about this. You seem to be the one worked up. I haven't heard anything from her about whether or not she feels

like she was in this situation. I don't know, man. Like, obviously, yeah, like, it's annoying if this was kind of like not expected and you just had to stay and watch these kids for a while, but like that's kind of a family thing. I don't know. And then like, just say, hey, this isn't going to happen. I can't. Like, this is like something that's an thing. Yeah. But like a one-off to be like, hey, man, I watched your niece and nephews. Like, come on. Antenna's up. I think you're right about this. Okay. Is this the deal? I mean, is it happening all the time? I remember getting tricked into some stuff where it'd be like parents would drop their kids off and then I'm like what's going on here like I got enough responsibilities with all my siblings now I'm in

charge because I was a nice younger kid I'm like what the fuck is going on here um I there's another time where like I ended up bartending at something and I was like well how did this happen um and then you're just kind of no no no I'm talking about like I was a kid I was like 14 or something like wine and champagne. And then I was like, oh, this is because they didn't want to pay anybody. So the point that I'm making here is like your intent is up thing is perfect. But I'm with Sir Rudy on this one. First of all, the Venmo request is insane. Okay. Like, do you want to start? Like, if this is, you should be asking your wife, like, what's the scattering board of her? The wedding cake thing makes you feel a little bit like, all right, they're always trying to figure

out different angles on money. And if if she was like tricked to your point, then just don't ever do it again. But I think to Sir Rudy's greater point is like you can't just hang out with like a bunch of younger kids than your family for the night. You know, wouldn't you want to offer to do something like that for somebody that you cared about that was in your family? And you get to hang out with some kids, especially if you don't have any of your own. That would be like an awesome thing to be able to do for a night. I would think if you obviously like kids. So I would hold off on the Venmo thing.

I wouldn't even do. I wouldn't even consider it. Yeah. I mean, I start making jokes. Like, if this actually happened, you went through with this, I'd be like, every time I'd hang out with you, if I was the family, I'd be like, hey, here's a fiber. Thanks for hanging out with us today. You know, like, this is, that's insanity.

That is insane. I get, do we all get his point, though? Yes. He's bringing up the wedding cake of like, this might be this kind of cruise here. Maybe they're schemers. Yeah. Right. But like, hey, man.

I don't know. I think. Antenna's up, Kyle. That's all they need to be said. Full episodes available on Netflix. Thanks to Tom, Kevin, Surudy, N. The Ryan Rosillo Show, Arsenal Sports.

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