The Ryen Russillo Show - Most Complete NFL Teams, Rams Comeback, Drake Maye w/ Nate Tice! Plus Ryen’s CFB Top 12

Episode Date: October 5, 2026

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Live from Chicago for me, I'm at the Barstool Studios. Been here a couple days. So a lot of accessories behind me here. Nate Tice joins again, Football 301, Yahoo Sports Week 5. Nate, I don't even know how we can do this Sunday justice. This is one of the best Sundays ever. It felt like it was incredible matchups. Again, you know, there's a lot of weeks where it's like a lot of stuff's coming down to the wire,

but this wasn't exactly like great to watch for three plus hours. It's almost like you'd need three hours just to do week for this kind of service. It was, I'm just kind of in awe of the product. For somebody who usually like Saturday more than Sundays, this is an all-time Sunday. So I'll start wherever you want to start. Oh, well, that was the thing even when we go on the preview show that we do on Thursday. It was like, oh, this was pretty easy. A lot of juicy matchups, but then even non-juicy matchups were entertaining.

I don't think there's a, when NFL's hitting, it's just, it's so good. And that's the thing. So I wasn't just a witching hour and all that. It was witching day throughout. Why up until the last game? Up until the last game, points galore. I got to yell at some ratch. which is always fun.

And then on top of it, just I think you got good quarterback playing some matchups. You got good defensive playing some matchups as well. Got some sloppiness. So I could go a lot of different directions. I really do think the game that stood out to me the most, believe it or not, was probably the Cowboys Texans game, which was not a game I previewed. But I also, there's the game that really, I actually should say the game was set out to me else was Jaguars Bengals because I did think that was there.

Yeah, let's start there. because I think it's two good teams. Yeah, because, you know, when the Jacksonville destroys New England, we turn to a new New England topic, which is understandable, because we'll do that, hey, you made the Super Bowl, what the hell's wrong with this team? They continue to be problematic. You know, May's got all these issues, and we'll get to May's terrific Sunday here a little bit. But I want to start with that because Ted Wynn from the Athletic, who we love having on the show,

he said after the weekend, he's like, that's the most complete team in the NFL. Is that accurate to you? Yeah, I've been actually kind of gauging that too. I think so. I think that's where I'm going with. I've been really popping that question on a couple people on my show. I was like, how do you power rank the AFC? How do you?

And then they're always like, I don't know. What do you think? No, I think the Jags are the ones I feel best about, even though there is a little bit of the old line stuff still, and there's a little bit of the defensive firepower still. But they also have a nice high floor, and they got really good coaches on both sides. And that's what's stood up to me the most is the game planning. And then on top of it, they have a quarterback playing confident. and then they can turn to a run game that's different, sorry, a stray of this, a stray thought about all this,

or something that I think is so fascinating is Liam Cohn is a Sean McVeigh guy. And there's been a lot of talk about the, you know, the 13 personnel, and I've joked about that before. What I always thought that 13 personnel thing was the Rams were giving themselves the ability to pivot if they need to in the playoffs. And we've talked about this. This is what the Jaguars do so well, is that they have different styles they can lead into. That's what that Nate Borgercher pick on day two that everybody lost their minds about, even though it was a great wide tight end class,

everyone kind of forgot about that. But they went with that because they gave themselves, hey, if we have to get heavy, if we have to go multi-tight ends, we can do it now legitimately, and the defense has to honor it. We have Chris Rodriguez, and it's like, all right, Chris Rodriguez.

But now with facial Tutin, they have a different style of running back they can lean into when they need to. Last, this Sunday was a Tutton game because let's run away from Dexterity, Lawrence. Let's get to the outside. He's got more speed. But when they need to hammer it home, they got Chris Rodriguez. They have multiple receivers now, even if the guy that is the most highly touted guy as far as draft pick, BTJ, is more of kind of a super role player. But now he's the

speed guy. They got Jacobi Myers. They got Parker Washington. They got Brent Strange. They got all these guys. They got Josh Cameron, a rookie that's playing really well as a dirty work guy. And now they're highlighting him a little bit. But why I'm bringing all this stuff up is it's not just offense, the defense as well. It's like they change their game plan every single week. And that's the good stuff. And that's what you, those are the contenders. Now on top of it, it's proof in the pudding

with the results. And then they have a quarterback playing like a top five guy right now. Yeah, Trevor Lawrence has never touched the 60s in QBR. He's 70 right now. And we've had some quarterbacks get off to some absurd starts. That's still not even the best in the NFL. There's a weird yards allowed

thing in there. But when you look at their success against third down, they're number two. They're giving up the second least amount of points. That's number two. All these are like number two to Minnesota, which is totally understandable. And when I watched them, I look at like, like I thought last night's game with Carolina and golf was very telling in that, hey, this is the scattering report on golf. You got to get him off of his spot. Just get him to move a little bit. He has a harder time getting lateral and then like getting himself parallel into the throw again. You know, it's like just something for him. The stuff we were raised.

about with Herbert, yet despite everybody's frustration with him. It's like, okay, these are some of the things that he can do. And so it's not necessarily even how many QB hits or how many sacks. It's like, all right, are you moving this guy around a little bit? And when I watch Jacksonville's edge guys, they just get off so quick that even if it's not a sack thing, you feel like it's disruptive, which is why sacks can be one of the dumbest stats to really hammer home, whether it's an edge guy or some of the – I was even looking at like Jamal Williams for the Chargers. I was looking up his numbers last night because I've forgotten about him and just how nasty he was. It was like, yeah, that wasn't a sack guy at all.

Like, never. It's going to be a sack guy because he's lined up over the center. And I think the Travis Hunter part of this thing is starting to come together. It's just a nasty, like, I'm going to clean you out hit. And I know that's just a small part of the film from the overall day. But it feels like, hey, there's a reason why this guy was going to go as high as he was, even if the two-way, you know, 50 snaps on both sides of the ball thing is never going to happen in the NFL. So there's a lot to like about this.

It's actually kind of looking at it too. how they lose to Denver? Like, how do you lose to that Denver offense in the second half? But we talked about that. It was one-on-one shots. Nix had a really good stretch. Waddle got going there a little bit. It seemed like they were changing up the approach.

But I don't know who I would say is more complete than Jacksonville. Like, who else is in the conversation of the top teams? And even like the Ravens, who I do like, I have more questions about their defense than I maybe thought I would. Like, they are up there. And then NFC, the heavyweights all look flawed as well. And this whole offseason, I've been saying, AFC's wide open. Really, it's the NFL's wide open,

like even more than we would expect, like all the heavyweights have a little bit of stuff. I'm still squinting at. So to me, chiefs maybe, but then Taekwant Thornton, like, which is also part of the problem with the chiefs, is that Taekwant Thornton is a very important player for them, is that, like, is rearing its ugly head.

They have, they're benching their left guard, Kingsley Suamataia and being kind of coy about it. And just little things like that, even though I believe what the chiefs are, doing. Their formula is working. Run game. Mahomes in the red zone. Mahomes on third down and a defense like Armae-Mason Thomas is showing up. George Carl Loftus is showing up. Chris Jones is Chris Jones. They're doing some cool stuff on defense as always with Spags. Then Clint Kubi, I kind of got him a

little bit. So I also with the Jags and I mentioned all the offense stuff and you mentioned just the defense of stuff with those guys kind of bullrushing. Anthony Kempel, their defense coordinator, all other guys played to their best ability, even guys that like Jordan Lewis, who's their slot guy, like all of a sudden he's played very well since he's gotten to jacksville. But there's stuff that too is even when they get beat on a play, like you mentioned with the Broncos or even Burrow kind of starting to pepper him as the game went along, he makes it hard on them. He makes them do the hard thing over and over.

But yeah, you're going to go to this spot, but we're going to make you work for that. Like the gimmies aren't gimmies against them. And there's one kind of instance where they were bringing up, what they call double mug pressure with two guys in the A gap. And they were doing that with a. Bengals do is they'll walk their running back up. And if you notice there's a couple times when they walk the running back up because they're trying to limit the space between

like the blitzer and the running back. That's what that's kind of like the theory of that. Good offense has gotten away from it, but I digress. But he walks them up and then what the Jags did is they check when the guy walks up and then they bail out because then you're wasting the running back and protection because he can't really release from that spot. Burrow later in the game, they walked up, running back walks up and he waves off the runnerback goes, no, no, just release over here. Like there's, not going to blitz there. And then they blitzed. And so it was kind of like, hey, we're going to keep you one page behind. And even if Burrell makes the completion, you still, he pre-snap, he has to

work. That's a lot of work when you're throwing the ball 50-something times. Every time they're under center, they key in on tendencies. And that's why it's so important to get tendency breakers or to have more of a balance attack if you're shocking under center. Hey, if they're under center, let's run. All right. So we're going to key in that angles run game did not get going the entire game. So they just do a lot of really the right things that good. good stuff. And I mean, I can go on and on about some of the red zone designs too. Like the, once again, the red zone, you see some of the coolest stuff from this team with the Jaguars, I mean. The BTJ touchdown was just like, hey, the Bengals linebackers are bad and their safeties are bad. All right, let's have the guy, BTJ run an over route from the slot because the linebackers won't find him. And like, they're supposed to drop back and carry him. They're just like lost in no man's land. And they keyed on the linebackers the entire game. I think Trevor Lawrence went 16 of 18 throws between the numbers. If you look at his heat, he Avers target chart, it's hilarious. It's all just all just bunched into the middle because that's the weakness of the

Bengals. So, which is key on it. Like, let's not overthink this. So I'm up there. At the worst, they're on the podium. But I've been really leaning into, I think they're the class of the NFL right now. Okay. I feel like they deserve a lot of credit.

And if you're going to like the Niners, you're like, okay, it's been awesome on offense. There's some good numbers there defensively. There's some not great numbers there defensively. But there's always going to be that, all right, you're the old. oldest roster. Like how many of these guys are you going to have their week 15, week 16, whatever? Like, they have an end-a-season matchup. I think in the preview, what we were talking, I was like,

how many Niners are going to be healthy for that game? Because it's like a real issue. As great as they've looked, and we're going to give them their flowers for their incredible game against Denver there. But if you're trying to think of like the most complete teams, we've been raving about this Vikings defense the entire time. Are you kidding me? Like, they could have lost that game to Miami

because they can't do anything with Kyler-Murray in offense. TBD, I guess, if you're trying to be nice about it. But between Trevor, between the defense, between the weapons, you know, this is, and I don't think it's really any shame in blowing a game at Denver as bad as their offenses look, because great teams have gone up there and lost those kinds of games, even when Denver wasn't even that great. So that could be part of it. And on the Cincinnati side of it, I couldn't help but feel like,

and granted, Chase goes out early on the face mask concussion thing. Higgins goes out a little bit later. but what we had liked about, hey, there's some awesome offensive line stuff that's happening. Hey, look at these six guys that they brought on on defense and look at the draft pick. And then it looked like the struggling Cincinnati version again yesterday. Burroughs pick was terrible, which is strange too. And he was mad at himself in a way where it was like, you didn't see the guy in the outside. Like, what are you a rookie?

The fourth down throw, probably because Higgins and Chase are out at that point, but to throw it underneath when you, you got to get 10 and they get nine and sure it was kind of close. It was like you're really adjusted on that because the Bengals did it earlier. So again, knowing situation from their defenders like that, because that Burrell loves that, the little angle route on those third and longs and fourth and longs because that's a long, that's a long distance to get that one.

Yeah, I know. And especially in the red zone because then the defenders don't have to back up as much. So it's a little, it's tight. But no, I thought that was a great jacks play too. But I agree. It was kind of like, really, that's your play calling fourth and ball again? Look, I guess I give Burrow the benefit of the doubt that whatever else was going on in the routes, like any news he couldn't take a sack.

It's like, I'm going to get this out because there were plays where it reminded me of, well, they can't run the football again. Burroughs getting heated up here a little bit. And yeah, I mean, you missed maybe the best wide receiver duo in the entire NFL. Like, that's going to change some things for you offensively. But then I'm watching what Drake May's doing out there with his group going, you know, sometimes that's what's great about this game as teams will find a way as guys are

down left and right, whether it was the corners or Denver, the corners for Detroit going into that one, excuse me, the corners for Carolina in that game against Detroit or Detroit without their safety's this entire time. Yeah, Carolina is chopping like high after guy. So I have

another Lawrence topic, but I think I'm going to save it. I think I'm going to save it for later so we can get to more games here because this is the sixth year for him and you could talk about his timeline. But let me just save it for another time. We have less games because I just want to try to do as much as we can here. So you mentioned Dallas and Houston. I'll tell you what I was doing. I was sitting there. Houston's down 3027, 655 left. And I'm going, all right, I want all my attention on this game

right now because like this is a huge CJ movement. This can be a defining drive for this Texas team that's O and 3, staring at O and 4, taken on Dallas. Like, what does CJ got here? Because from a weapon standpoint with Nico's back, you're like, you know, there's a lot to pick from. Noah looks pretty good. Hutchinson made some big catches in this game. They can't run the football, but that's, I love that they won't quit on it, even if there's games where you just go, probably should stop doing that now. So it's first in 10.

They have a false start. We can pull the plug. It's okay. I know that you're trying to establish it, but sometimes, sometimes. They're committed to balance. I know. Given that, but it was basically like the play chart for the draw. where they go up was great pass, great pass.

Hey, let's make sure we keep him guessing. And then it's like nothing. Yeah. Yeah. So as I'm sitting there, I'm going, it's all right, 655 left. Like, let's go C.J. Stroud, fall start. And I'm like, great. Here we go.

But first and 15, 26-yard pass. He's got a 13-yard pass to Nico. He's got a 22-yard pass to Noel. He's facing first and 20 turns into third and 19. And that's run the lateral, which is incredible. And then Marks is in for the six-yard touchdown run. like, man, they did it. But there's not one person that's been watching Dallas this year, even in this game, that isn't going like, there's no way Dallas does worse than an automatic

three points here to tie this thing up. Because they've got two 15 left. A field goal is absolutely in play. And considering what is now turning into just a nightmare for defenses that you are not going to, when they have four downs to use, you are not going to stop Dallas with C.D. and Pickens from beating whatever coverage there is, one out of those four times. And that is the task for anyone going up against this Dallas team. And it seems impossible right now. It's players, it's scheme, another quarterback playing super confident. Like, DAC is just incredible pre-snap. And now post-snap, he's, I mean, they, they can just turn so many different dials when they need to. I talk about ability to pivot. Like, that's not, it's not even just their star CD and pickings and everything.

It's the role players I always harp on. Like Ryan Flournoy's ability to play in the slot or outside allows CD Lamb to move into the slot when needed. By the way, he's good, huh? He's really good. Yeah, he's really good. He's got a lot of ability. He's a gritty blocker too. Actually, all their guys can block.

It's just they just sometimes Pickens and CD are choosy with it. It's funny that he looks small out there because of Pickens and CD and he's 6-1-205. Yep. Yep. He's a big boy. And he can run. Like it's, it's again, and even guys like the tight end wise, like Ferguson kind of has his role. Like, you know, in the red zone, he caught the fourth down on that final drive.

He's, him and Dak always have a great chemistry and reading things. Brevin Span Ford, their blocking tight end is really good. Like, and he actually's got a little bit of juice too. They love their big 10 tight ends. I think all of them are big 10 guys, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin. But like, CD yesterday. He had 10 catches, 12 targets from the outside, lined up wide, 120. 28 yards in the slot,

seven catches on nine targets, 61 yards, and the touchdown at the end. And the touchdown at the end was one of those where, like the text and stuff is like, okay, are you guys learning your lessons?

Because that was the exact same coverage that the bills beat them on with Joshua Palmer on the little post, different concepts and everything. It was man to man. And then the back safety is kicked over to the loan receiver. And there's three receivers to the other side, including C.D. Lam.

And in that man coverage, one hole, one rat, whatever you want to call it, the linebacker away from the runningback side is free to either look up routes, read the quarterback, depends on what the game plan is. But those DBs are going to play with outside leverage because their help is from the inside. So if I have CD Lam in the slot, Jalen Petrie is a good player, but he's better going forward, not backwards. So C.D. Lamb has an advantage there. It's an A versus a B. And he's running a vendor. Does he think he has inside help there? Yep. That's why he's playing outside. And this is the, but this is the. problem is that they cheat the safe deep safety over to the X, the Pickens. And so he has no help from the back end either, which should make it a little tighter at least, but that's just a that for the ability of CD-O-M and Dak Prescott, that is child's play. That is nothing.

Like they could do that all day. It's like going against the tubes, even though the Texas defense is not a bunch of tubes. But that, as far as scheme and just ability-wise, that is nothing in the NFL. And so that's why I'm almost disappointed that the Texans went to it again because they got burned for similar reasons with Joshua Palmer. Inside breaking route, no help from the inside, and they cheated the deep safety over to DJ Moore on that one when they're playing the bills. So that was just very disappointing. And on top of it, Kamari Lasseter had a rough game.

It was just like the bills game. Eight inches 136 yards he allowed. It was, they hit a big bull's eye on his back. And that's another thing. It's, you know, jimmy's and Joe's sometimes. And apparently the Cowboys are, right? Well, there's the Joe. what we want to go after.

All right, which is a little surprising, too, because when you look at it before the season starts, you go, all right, well Stingley's going to take out the one. And for Laster to be the number two, like, that's a great number two. That is what we all expected. I thought Lasser might retire in the third quarter of this game. He was getting worked. And, you know, I'd have to, like, look at it and maybe sit with somebody

a little smarter than me because Pickens, to his credit, wasn't getting any targets. So I was wondering, like, through the course of the game, you still expect against Stingley, like C.D. is going to get his wins. It's just what's going to happen with somebody that's good. So you're thinking, all right, so Pickens only has one target, I think, through like 30 plus game minutes.

So does that mean Lassar's been doing a good job on him? They hit him on that deep one where you know, other versions of Pickens, I would think for taking him that long and make an impact of the game, like you might not even get that catch because he could shut down. And Lassar was so mad about it that he like stays on top of him.

He's still kind of fucking with Pickens a little bit. And then you're like, what's Pickens going to be like when he gets up? Because I'm like, this could be something stupid. And Pickens, to his credit, just ignored Laster, who was still like laying on him, gets up. And then he just does his quick first down celebration. I was like, okay. And then it's just penalty after penalty. And they were all penalties.

He got worked on that sideline route. Now, granted, it was an incredible sideline route. But at that point, like, Laster, he's convinced himself he's not doing anything wrong, which is not specific to him. But you're starting to, like, take yourself out of it a little bit more. He was, and this is somebody who dropped the interception that would have sealed the Bills game. So he is a very talented guy with a lot of expectations who's had a bad start to the season and a disastrous Sunday, which, you know, like these guys can turn it around. I wouldn't put him down as like, hey, that's a problem right now that he's your starter.

I'm not saying that. But you were watching someone kind of unravel in real time in the second half with him. it's why I always feel like corners relate to relief pitchers in baseball. It's just so volatile. You know, the good ones are awesome, the great closers and all that. But then there's these other guys that it's like it depends on matchup. Depends who they're getting dunked on. They just kind of have the ups and downs with it.

And what's credit again to, or I don't know if credit's the right word, but the Texans tried to do some different stuff. Derek Stingley usually only aligns to the quarterback's right side, the defensive left, because that's like an old theory, Legion of Boom, Richard Sherman, kind of of popularized it. It's put our age corner on this side because that's the quarterback's throwing kind of side to the right side.

They moved him over, they moved him around, left and right. So he had 18 snaps on the defensive right side. He only had one before that game over the first three weeks. So they're trying to kind of go like, hey, you just can't pepper Laster, we're going to switch these guys around. It didn't matter. It really

didn't matter. Like Laster, and then even, like, he didn't get credit with getting targeted, but like, on the last drive again to bring that up was they ran a comeback route to CD Lamb and on that last drive it was to Derek Stingley side and that was again another great instance and again I'm really high on Clayton Adams Brian Schott and I'm redack and just how they're seeing the game that designs is they run that concept what it's called 99 the classic concept threeverts basically and they always run in those big moments the Cowboys and Derek Singley very good corner knows that and so it's the same

formation. We've seen 99 get hit. If you watch the end of the commander's game, you'll see it with two big plays of CD-LAM. And Derek Stingley, all right, CD-Lam, release and vertical. Oh, I know what's coming. Here comes the go-ball. So he starts turning and running. Then they're on a comeback. So it was kind of the classic, I know what I know-what-you-know-what-you-know kind of moment from the Cowboys. Comeback gets 15-yard games, another chunk play. Then there's George Pickens going to the opposite side on the next play. It's like, all these guys getting going, but then the scheme, just maximizing it at the right moments. And, I can get it even more on that because I encourage everybody. And if you rewatch this game, and this is why, again, I'm so high in the Cowboys and what this offense can be, watch Cooper Beebe's headbops. And I know this is a sound very niche, but this is how they know what they're going against. Will Anderson played like a star. De Nile Hunter's extremely good. They still got clowny. So the head bob, if you're on the road, it's a silent count if you're in the shotgun.

and usually you kind of do one thing. It's either the, you know, the guard taps you. He looks back. He taps when the quarterback does the step or the hand, and then the center snaps it, or they put their head between the legs and then snap it. There's just different variations of it. The Cowboys, which is so unique and so advanced, do it all.

So there's sometimes where the guard looks back, doesn't say a word. It's just when he looks back and then Cooper Beebee snaps it. There's times he looks back, then taps Bibi, then he snaps it. There's times Bibi bobs his head real slow. and then snaps it. There's times he's looking between his head or between his legs and it looks up and snaps it real quick.

There's times he does what I call the pouncy, which is they, he goes like this, the head tilt. He does that as well. Like that is advanced stuff. Like that is hard to do, especially on the road. And I know it sounds so simple, but it's hard to communicate it. It's hard to offense align to all know that. And it's also the quarterback to be comfortable to go like, hey, I got, I got give the signal with seven seconds while I'm also signaling while I'm also changing protections.

So again, that's the real advanced stuff and the twist that the Cowboys do that. I'm like, God, that's really, really good football. When Houston went up, I was like, I can't wait to talk about Willie Anderson for one hour today. But we'll have to wait. He's just monster. He's ridiculous. All right. Let's start positive here.

Look at the Texan schedule, though. If they're five and five going in, I wouldn't be totally shocked. Just look at the next five games. I'm just I'm going to encourage or six games just really going to encourage people it's like I'm not I've one share left all right let's give us a record so it's Titans Jags Giants Chargers

Browns Colts Mm-hmm give me your Texans record I'm just like 5 and 5 I'm gonna go they're gonna rip off they're gonna lose the Jags and then the other others they win they all these underlying stats I look at

they're like still like a top 10 team and I know underlying stats are underlying stats and yada yada It's small sample size, but it's like the offense and the passing game is good, like firmly good. Maybe they get away from this run game. Maybe they don't play the Cowboys who have actually a good run defense, yada, yada. The defense is too talented to not figure it out. That's how I.

Cowboys run defense looked like Pittsburgh in the 70s yesterday. I know. They looked like the 2004 or 2001 Ravens. No, it's one of those things where the underlying stuff is actually not as bad as it seems. It's just really, and this is always famous last words, as long as they clean up the mistakes, it will look pretty good. But I think they just had some bad stuff going on,

but there's still some underlying good, especially that passing game. And I just, I don't know, the defense just has too much talent. So it's like, and the lineback's too much talent to be given up 30. That's it.

Like, it just, if you would say, if you would say, you're going to score 30 against Dallas. If you were Houston, you're like, okay,

we're getting our first win. But this is not new for Texans fans, by the way, with Demico, since he's been there. O and 2, 0 and 3, 0, did have a 2 and 0 start in 24. So if you look at his first three weeks,

so that was before the fourth week, there was a graphic up where it's like the third worst record of any hit coach to start the first three weeks of the season. So I'm going to say four and six, but I love the positivity of 5 and 5. That Colts game rattled me a little bit, though.

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See shell.us forward slash more for more details. Okay, let's do another start positive here instead of focusing on Denver's office. offense. There we go. Some of these San Francisco numbers on offense, we just have to share them with you to understand what Shaneahan and what Purdy are doing right now. First of all, Purdy has not been sacked on 122 pass plays, which is like the longest streak to start a season, I think all the way back to like is it Peyton Manning. I think it was 117. So he's already past that. So we're talking a long, long time of Purdy. Again, get the ball out. He had a play yesterday where I always try to think of like, why is Kurt Warner come on and rave about Brock

Purdy. Kind of the same way we were talking about Herbert with Brady going, hey, here are the things that he's raving about while he's also disgusted with everything that he's watched here for three hours, okay, which is his own charges topic. But Purdy had you know, I always get mad about like when we talk about quarterback, you're like,

oh, look at his form and look at his throat. It's like, yeah, but you don't get to do that. You don't get to do that when you play in the games. Very rarely are you ever going to get to like pop, pop, pop, pop, pop and your feet, and it's like, okay, get his base and towel on the arm. It's like you're lucky to get seven of those if you drop back 40 times a game.

So I don't care about your fucking form and like what it looks like at your pro day. Not to say that pro days aren't useless for even more reasons. Purdy had one of those clean pockets and he did exactly that where he pop, pop, pop, pop, and like got it to the backside. It might have been the third or fourth option against that Denver defense, which was, you know, that you want to talk about missing Sartan, Moss both going out, still having that kind of day. I don't care what the numbers are.

That Denver defense was fantastic yesterday. So it was hard for Purdy. And there was that one little moment. You were like, this is why the play college. This is why the quarterbacks love this guy. There was nothing about it that felt physically gifted. It was just a moment where it was like, look how calm and in rhythm. And through this actually was able to stay in like one of those perfect setups to get out this throw that was a much later option as everything else was shut down.

The other part of this, I don't know if you were. want to do the EPA stuff. I'm sure you have it here too. They're number one in EPA offense. The pass EPA is absurd. So they're basically more than double. There are expected points added more than double the number two team in the NFL. They're at like point five and Baltimore is at point two. And there's no way that holds up. There's no way. It's such a ridiculous number. We are talking 2007 Brady first four weeks of a season for this offense, even if we feel like from a total point standpoint, it doesn't necessarily look like that. But some of these advanced things are telling you this has never happened except one or two

times and it's probably not going to keep happening because it's so far ahead of everybody else. Yeah, there's some schedule stuff too. They've only taken three, they've only had three TFLs. So they have no sacks, but the run game only has three TFLs so far this entire season two. So it's just positive play, positive play, positive play, positive play. Like just run game, pass game, screens, downfield shots. Even on the stuff with Purdy too is that, you know, Shanahan's offense is so like one, two, three, four, throw to his freaking hash if you're getting single high or you throw to like throw it to this spot, get to this read. But why Purdy feels always so different than, you know, Jimmy G and other guys that have operated in this

offense. It's just that a little bit of creation he can sprinkle into. Like he's a really good athlete and he still kind of gets underrated as an athlete. He's bigger than people realize he's not tall, but it's always about thickness. I'm not a heart on this. It's a Russell Wilson thing. It is. Like look at Russell Wilson on the set next to Burleson and forget Kyle Long. I mean, everybody looks miniature next to Kyle Long and this is Kyle as like a non-player and I've still next to Kyle when he was a player and it's a humiliating experience. And he has abs and you're like, what the fuck. So anyway, like this is your Russell, this is your Russell Wilson point, though.

Like, Wilson looks so small just on the CBS set. Yeah. But it was thickness. Was that baseball ass? Yes. I can't believe you just said that because Purdy got a QB sneak and they pushed him. And I said, God, he's got, he's got big ass. And I actually said that in like a group chat.

I mean, I was like, man, Purdy's just got a big ass. Like, but he's a good. You can say that. I can't say that. Yeah, you play. Yeah. It's great. No, he's, he has this acceleration.

Great ass on that party. Great ass on that party. it's great. It's it's it's it's brocked up. Uh, no it's yeah, no, they don't get stuffed. He operates the offense like the they do the old school drop back stuff where it's just seven steps under the, uh, from under center, no play action like, which is I want more teams to do it. And why that's so cool is that all five options are live. You know, when you do play action, it limits it. Usually you're only getting two guys, maybe three guys out in routes or it's touchdown to check down kind of simplifies it for the quarterback. It's not a bad thing.

I think every team should have that. But they're getting to the under center, drop back, quarterback is reading it out, one, two, three, four, sometimes five. And then on top of it, it's Shanhan is just, he's got the belt, like, as the best play designer and just the twist he's doing on his own stuff that just gets me going. They had a run to Debo Samuel, and it's a counter run, and he's offset. And what I mean by offsets, he's not directly behind the quarterback. He's offset, like, or it's old school.

That's like Bill Walsh school stuff. And what it does is changes the angles, but they usually pass out of that. And so now he's just like, no, we're going to run. And we're not running zone because everyone knows Shanahan's the zone guy, we're running counter, which is polars, two polars. And that's something that's really stood out to me is that Shanahan is, it's not that he's leaning away from zone. It's just that all the non-zone runs are just awesome right now.

So they're, he's doing, they always have that stuff. There's always going to be a high floor with Shanahan because of the designs. but now the new twist he's added, pretty seeing the game so well, it's like the offensive ceiling is ridiculous. That's why the points are like this. But I had a little stat too is that duo and gap scheme. So duo's man, if you want it, gap schemes, polar.

We can get more details from that. Which is keep it broad. This year, they have 54% success rate. Absurd. Anything again, about 45%, 46% is good. 54%. Their second is success rate in the entire week. But this year on zone runs,

or 12th in successory. And you would never think that with the Shanahan offense. They can still do some zone. But now the other stuff that he's filled in his playbook with is just as dangerous as his fast balls. So it's like now the off speed bitches are just like, it's like prime Pedro Martinez. Like he's just like, oh, God, okay, you can do that now too. Like, oh, shoot. Like, and you can just see defenses who think they have a handle on everything just get popped.

And even like that kittle screen touchdown was like, you mentioned like the best coaches and why football show great is how these teams adapt. Ushik gets actually one of the great pretty creation plays. Ushik gets sought off. He's banged up. So now they go 13 personnel instead of 22 personnel with three tight ends. Braden Willis is on the field. They go splitbacks with CMC and Brayden Willis on there.

Brainwills motions out. And because Vance Joseph is an emotional blitzer, like we talked about last week, they bring cover zero, which is if we're running a screen against cover zero, we're doing great on offense. And because that most, motion happens. The corner has to go out with Willis.

Fonga has to bump out Luke Farrell. And now the backside safety, his assignment, is Kittle. So at the snap of the ball, he's like, oh, shoot, who's my guy? Oh, Kittle? And so he starts running over there, what's his name, Brandon Jones. He starts running over there. And then so now, on top of it, this is what great plate design does. It's just a tight end screen. But because that little window dressing, the defense is slow to the ball. Now there's angles for the blockers because those guys are all moved over and bumped over and it covers zero. So, yeah, a screen against Cover Zio is great. As teams that go against the Vikings, how does that work out for you?

But now you're doing this, and like that's, and then Kittle, it just looks amazing and he just runs past everybody. And so it's just play designs, execution, it's everything. That offense is really awesome. And I can only get so high on the defense because they can't stop the run. But that was the thing. I even picked the 40 hours before this game because I was like, the Broncos don't have the natural answers to it to make that work, to like abuse what this.

defense can do, or it can't do, I should say. I love Chanahanah, 405. You know, they're up 1714. I think lesser coaches would have just focused on clock and would have stopped playing football. And we still see it at the highest levels. It drives me crazy. And I think a lot of it, and say, look, in credit to Braybill and Drake May, it was the same

thing. They're like, we're probably going to lose this game by focusing on trying to get clock. But the problem is it's just like a poorly executed timeout. we can identify those things easily. Fans, media can easily identify it. All the stuff that we don't understand as soon as it's, hey, how can you not running out of the clock? Like, why are you throwing?

You should have run. Now you've lost and what's going on at there at the end. And that's probably why so many coaches, like, well, if I screw this up, I might as well screw it up the way that everybody expected. And I think still in the NFL, guys will coach that way. And I'm watching this moment going,

like, they can't run the football against Denver right now. If they hand it off three straight times, it's it's not going to happen i mean mcalfrey was 15 and 52 yards three and a head like that was that was actually i'm surprised it was that high he had the touchdown so it kind of makes you feel like he had a good game i mean they cannot just turn around and hand the ball off here because even as bad as denver's offense has been now it's a completely different game they come out pass pass and then of course the perfectly timed screen against that blitz coverage and the kiddell's just going he knew he's like this is over uh susy got it he like gets he's like oh yeah he was so

happy because he's like no one's, you know, it's still a tight end. You're like, you don't think anybody's going to catch you, but granted, you know, both the corners, it's going to be some third string nickelback that you would have thought was going to catch up to him or something. No. Kittle is just like, nope, this is over. And so that is one of those moments when when people talk about Shanahan and how great he is and everything, he's just going like, we need to actually figure out a way to attack. And you would think, like, you're kind of surprised it didn't open up with Sartan going out and then Moss goes out. You're like, are they going to look for just taking shots at the backups here and

they didn't have time for it I think on the protection and then there's another part of this to be comparing this start for Purdy to Brady in 07 which is still the first half of that season maybe the greatest thing I've ever seen in football because they did tail off a little bit maybe it's the Rams maybe it's the Ravens which I have as a rule

because I know you brought up the 2001 Ravens is that anytime we talk about any great defense no one is allowed to be compared to that even the 86 85 bears ever like you just can't they played with 13 guys 2 or invisible. We keep it moving here. But when you look at the receiving core here for San Francisco, like this is, like Evans has had a really nice start. He's their leading receiver, not tight end.

He's 34th in the NFL in receiving yards. Do you know some of the other guys who got targets yesterday? I couldn't believe it. I was like, Brandon Cooks is out there. Yes. Yes. It's a greatest hits. Those guys has a target. And like if you're looking at the receivers, like Debo, they're going to use it a bunch of different ways, which is fun to see that all over again. He still looks thick to me. Use check's going to be out now. So it's Evans, it's Kittle. It's Ustichick.

It's Debo, which is, you know, five catches. But it just kind of felt like, hey, that's what they used to do with this guy. Then it's McCaffrey. And then it's Brandon Cooks and Cowling. Outs. You know, he's five foot eight. I don't know. Yeah.

Yeah. And like watch him last year against this Broncos defense in the playoffs. Watch him get swallowed up. Like, that's the thing. If it was so easy, you shouldn't Debo have been going. I mean, he had some nice games, but go off with the commanders when he was it there and it's like he gets right back to the four in irs it's like oh look at this he's still useful it's great and that that's why i want to highlight that last play too is that brayden wills

seventh rounder who you know barely has a lot of reps like he's in this key moment and he has no no one in this offense ever has any hesitation i much all these other offenses and guys are looking at each are like what like our guys like you know they break the huddle and the guys like what do i have there's never that with the four and irs and it's it's always been palpable with shanahan even that first year in san franc 2017 Like they had no talent. They're playing undrafted guys. And some of them worked out.

Some of them turned into Kittle, you know, day three picks. And then it doesn't matter. All the guys know what they're doing and execute the assignment. And it's like, that's just good coaching. Like all the stuff is just so, so good every single week. All right, Denver's offense. So this is the third straight game. They've started with a three and out.

The only time they didn't have a throat three and out was in the first game against Kansas City when Nick's through a pick. They have 13 points total in the first half. Yes, that's the worst. the NFL. Like it was kind of funny in the Jacksonville game because they came back and won it. Like this Denver team, you know, they make the adjustments or whatever. Nix had 25 completions yesterday. 14 were to running backs. I know Bryant went down, but this feels like a waste of waddle other than that second half against Jacksonville. So from a personnel standpoint, it shouldn't be this bad.

Right. Why is it this bad? Because no, they're not calling, when they do call things downfield, he's not when plays breathed. Yesterday from inside the pocket, there's a stack called average area yards to the sticks. So it's how far you're pushing the ball relative to the first down marker. From the pocket,

Bo Nix's was negative 4.3. That means he was throwing it four yards short of the sticks, no matter what down it was when he was working from inside the pocket. That is, that, and obviously. So wait a minute. Say that again because that's not like on, sometimes there's some really good quarterbacks and I'll look at their third down like to the sticks. And you go, oh, you know what?

Because it's usually a separator for me. Yeah. Like, hey, you're throwing beyond the stick. But I've even seen some guys that I really like where I'm like, oh, that number doesn't look very good there. But this is on all downs. All downs from working from negative 4.3. And I mean, this is there's third and tens.

They're running swing screens. So they're not, it's not even just like him checking the ball down too quick, which is a thing. And it's been a thing. his entire career. And this guy's the same age as Trevor Lawrence and Brock Purdy. You know, so we can say, yeah, it's only year three, yada yada, but like this is what he is. There's a classic line. Like, you know, Cheetah doesn't change its spots. And that's what he doesn't let a lot of plays breathe. And when I say that is because they run downfield concepts with big routes. And then he just instantly looks at the checkdown and fires a fastball to the checkdown before those

routes are even breaking. And this is just a thing. And again, this defense. is very gettable like this 49ers defense and how you have to beat it is you have to create you know breathing space you can't let these safeties clamp down and if you notice how many times like malcolm mustafa was making a play on the balls because he's not threatened behind him and they have jalen waddle like janeland waddle like literally the fastest people in football and you never feel him like you never feel him being dangerous in these games and like you never feel like bow nix also doesn't throw him over the middle. And that is, again, I always harp on this because that is a good tell an indicator how well you're seeing the offense and how are you seeing and anticipating stuff. And so when you run these big overroutes and big post routes and you're instantly going to the checkdown, those guys know I'm not threatened. So now they just saw off everything that's underneath. And so the yak gets squeezed. I think there's something to be said about the quarterbacks that are dangerous. And it's like, I think opposing fans watch them and go,

man, we throw a checkdown on her screen. It goes for two yards. Like, why is it so much it's because the dbs are threatened by those quarterbacks down the field and then they're like oh okay i got get okay now oh shoot like so the timing of it the spacing of it is actually proper and so everything just feels always so fast with him like how his eyes are moving and not good in a good way pretty like you mentioned is calm one two three four five it's here it's like nix is one done check down and he's a great athlete and this is even when i wrote him up coming out of Oregon it's like he's got great tools an unbelievable arm, and he's great with his legs, or he's a great athlete, just never uses those tools. And it's kind of, yeah, that's why RJ Harvey ends up with, what, 12 catches or 12 targets or whatever you

end up with? 10. 10 catches, I think. Oh, my God. They had a 27% success rate in the first half, one explosive. And they have too much this, that for, again, I'm going to keep saying the word, getable. That 49ers defense, you can get explosives on. And they only had one.

They had eight total successful plays before they got two more in the final two minager. So it's just, it's one of those things where it's like, yeah, the offense feels way too tight and they have enough talent on that offense. They have Sutton, they've waddle. Like, they have speed. They have guys, Marvin Bims. They have guys that can attack down the field. They just don't have a quarterback that's willing to do it. You know, any, quarterbacks would love to change places with Bownix.

Oh, that's right. With that offensive line, like you go, all right. Tim Tebow has the promise. I don't know what they're going to call this one for Sean McVeigh. but felt like it meant something. This was a pivotal moment. The Rams are down all day long. I remember at one point I looked at it.

It was like, all right, Philly's 0 for five on third downs and they're up two scores. Like, okay, what is going on? Stafford's picks were bad, all right? So, you know, this was, Stafford can be a little turnover prone to start a season. You know, there's stuff that happens

if you look at that and usually calms down. But he's got Nakuwbacks, so you're like, okay, why is this happening? I think the Philadelphia front, my guy Nolan Smith, even though he's unblocked on the second stack, there were some moments there. You know, there's some different names than the guys that are supposed to be like the brand names that are making some plays for this Philadelphia front. So like that part of it's good, even though Philadelphia has started losing guys all over the place, which is what the sport can kind of become. I'm even going to dare to say I thought Hertz had two things I thought were really good. The fourth and two, he gets absolutely destroyed because Shula was dialing up pressure. I think going into the second half, they were at like a 59 percent blitz rate, which is like the highest of a Chris Shula game ever, who's certainly making a name for himself. Again, Aaron Donald's not even play. playing in this game. So I thought hurts on that fourth and two where he got

destroyed to Lemon for the first down. Yeah, it was a fourth and two. I'm like, okay. You know, he hung in there. I don't know if the Cooper touchdown over the defensive back is a good throw or a bad throw. Nate? Thanks. That's the bus run over me. No, no, it was not a good throw. It was a great play by Darius Cooper. Even the second

touchdown was weird because Darius Cooper is ad-libbing the route. Like he should be keep running. The defense actually played it well and he stops. So it's like, yeah, credit to Cooper and Hertz kind of hanging there and throwing it, but it wasn't like design. The first one's a bad throw. It's a bad throw.

I couldn't believe that Cooper ended up with the defensive back couldn't believe it on top of everything else. But I was trying to find things because you knew going into this like Devante is his bailout. And that's how good Devante Smith is. Okay. There are so many times. where it feels like he is throwing,

which is incredible too, because Devante's not exactly DeAndre Hopkins build, but it's like, all right, I'm stuck on third and seven, whatever, I'll just go over here. I think AJ actually has that

when he's right too. But AJ wants to be down the field. Smith feels like any, any contested catch is like Advantage Devante Smith, which is just, it speaks to his timing and his athleticism

because it's not just, yeah, it's not him boxing somebody out. Like we see with these other guys. So you knew with this Rams defense, especially with that Blitz approach. You're like, okay, so this could be a tough one for Hertz. And it turned into an all-time or tough one.

So this lead and maybe I'm putting too much on the fourth and two, the rest of it's a disaster. As we all know, you're listening to this now, Philadelphia was zero for 12 on third downs. And I was looking specifically at one of those possessions there where it came down. They were up 2010. Think about this.

They're up 2010 with first and goal at the Rams 9, with 938 left, and they lost the fucking job. game. I'm going to ask you about the decision to not kick the field goal on fourth down, but when I started looking at what was happening in the third downs in the second half, it's like, hey, there's a third and ten to start the second half. He throws it two yards past the line of scrimmage. Third and five, it's incomplete short of the sticks. Third and three, they decided to run it. On third and three after the first two non-conversions, they're like, maybe we run it. And that's where you start to see, is this the play caller going, we don't think our guy has it today

against this kind of matchup. So incredible comeback. I do want your thoughts on the option to not kick the field goal to go up 2310. I think it can be dismissed a little bit, but I also sometimes go like, hey, what's wrong with being up two touchdowns instead of the seven that Stafford's definitely going to score

and how easy it is to get in a field goal range at the end of these games now with the kickoff rules and everything else that happens. There's just so much here that feels like it's hurts going in the wrong direction based on what we've seen this season. but at least before they were good on third down and then they have a historic dud.

And that's why even the Titans game where he went off on third down, I was kind of like, it's a double-edged short here where it's like, commander's game too. Yeah. And that's,

you don't want to make a living on third down. You want to be good on third down. You want to make your living on first and second down. Like that means the flow of the offense is working. And of course, Sequin Barkley going out, it's not ideal. But still,

and Lane Johnson being, just to interject like Sequan's yards per carry is kind of nice but like this this hasn't felt like you know because last year's a regression from where we were at two years ago when he's one of the best offensive players of league so Seekwon not being there

certainly sucks on top of all the other challenges they've had with the offensive line on top of everything else but like I haven't felt like it's been Seekwan esk even when he's played is that fair? No it's totally fair that's where their run game has been really bad other than the Bears game and they got kind of got away from

because of game script and everything. But that's been the trickle down of our center, who's already kind of banged up anyways, Cam Juergens is now a guard. And now we have a backup center. Lane Johnson's out. So again, who are we leaning on? You mentioned Devante Smith is kind of that safety blanket.

Lane Johnson's a safety blanket. Because that's, if you ever watch Joe on Hertz, when he's not comfortable, which way does he bail? It's usually to the right. And there's Lane Johnson's stonewall the guy, and then he loops around.

Hertz is not good throwing on the left to the left. He's never has been. So again, that's why I had hesitation with this offense, even going into the year, was if we want to be a boot-heavy zone offense, your offense alliance built to be an at-shoe duo scheme and your quarterback can't throw to the left. You know, so again, we're taking, they're already limited on what you can do and what's supposed to be the staples of your offense. On top of it, you don't have tight ends that can block. Now we have Zach Ertz out there, you know, Dallas Godderts are he's taking a step off. That's a big key if you want to be a zone running team because they have to set the edge. He was out yesterday too, right?

Yep. Yeah. Well, Hertz played and then he, yeah, Goddard's out. Yeah, Goddard's been out for a couple weeks now. You know, he's kind of been banged up a little bit. Anyways, anyway, so, you know, a week when I look fun. Anyways. But like top targets are Cooper Lemon and Dantavian Wicks yesterday.

So, you know, that's not. Lemon's quiet. And that's because Lemon's a slot guy and Hertz isn't really working over the middle to him. And he's just kind of like, there's plays. It's not even me being mean. It's just you watch it. And there's others I have noticed this now is that he's staring right at the route that's over the middle on third downs or other situations. And he just goes, I'm checking it down.

And that is just lack of comfort, lack of, I don't want to make a mistake right now. Now I'm feeling tight as the quarterback. And when you don't have a run game that's, you know, two years ago, one of the best run games that we've seen in a while, when that tails off into not even just average, but a bottom 10 run game, all right, then the passing game's got picked that up. And it's all just been living and dying on explosive plays. Those are the Devante Smith dunks. There's just no flow to this offense. And then the blitz wise, yeah, you mentioned it already. But Hertz versus the blitz yesterday.

It was 5 to 16 for 46 yards. He went through for 47 yards against non-blitzes. But he was pressured 13 times. He was sacked twice. And there was one, again, actually I brought this up against with Rogers, the four-week blitz. You have a backup center in there. You have a quarterback that doesn't do side adjusts or an offense that doesn't do side-adjusts.

And so it's just dead on arrival that like those plays are dead before they even, the ball is snapped. And modern offenses shouldn't have those plays. You should always have an answer or a bailout, you know, or a check or an adjustment. And so Chris Schu was like, I'm going to keep doing this. I'm just going to keep blitzing because I'm not threatened by getting dunked on by Devante Smith or AJ Brown now. Like you got, all right, you're going to try and nickel and dime us.

Well, a quarterback right now is not in a comfortable nickel and dime world. So it was just a lot, like they don't have anything to want to lean. on and Hertz isn't seen the game so it's not there's no down to down efficiency at all to like overcome any of this they just live and die by passing explosives and that it's an impossible way to live it really is especially when the defense is

getting battered too other than that bad two weeks for Hertz bad two weeks for this offense the Bears defense looked like the Vikings you know on on prime time Monday night game so that always makes it a little bit worse and then you're like okay how are they going to respond and even as they were up they're like this game is

so strange, but obviously it could be a very pivotal moment for a Rams team that no one would have expected was to start one in three even with the injuries. The Rams did some cool stuff with tempo, which I've been keeping my cliff Kingsbury's on that staff. And now this is two weeks in a row, the Broncos game last week where it's like when they've gone no huddle, the offense has gotten a little bit of juice. They had 17 plays and no huddle. Some of that, of course, is because they're down two scores, but they were even doing it before that when the game flow was just kind of neutral or game script was kind of neutral. And someone kind of keep my eye on with them because their offense feels a little hard right now too.

Run game's still getting there, but past game feels a little weird right now. Like Stafford's been missing throws. You mentioned it. He's a limit tester. Hey, I'm going to try this shit and see what happens. There's not interceptions that were misses from him, but just look, anytime you see it with him, but when you see, I think he'd be the first to tell you he didn't have a very good game. But when it mattered, he still has, well, this isn't breaking news here.

but the whole point is like, okay, we're down, we're down four. Okay, well, who do we have? Like, we have one of the three or four best guys to give us a chance. And it doesn't matter what the first 55 minutes looked like, which is what this game was. You know, this was, I think he even said it wasn't the game I wanted, but we got the result we wanted. And I think McVeigh felt a little something extra because one and three was going to feel like it was like the difference is two and two and one and three is one game. It was going to feel like five games. Yes.

Especially just how it felt. That's what they knew. Put up 40. And it's like, oh, we lost a shootout. It's like, no, just clawing for those points. So, yeah, they, they have, and the special teams still suck, which is, again, it's unbelievable how bad their special teams is. It's just I can't, I can't get over it. It's like every year now.

It's just every year. Their special team stinks. So that's another thing with this game. Because they played last year, and they got a field goal block. The game winner against the Eagles. So that was when Jordan Davis was rumbling, running for the score. And, you know, we were looking up as G. PPS numbers.

It's like, I bet you he had that in the back of his mind. Like, oh, no. It's going to come down to another special team's play. Why don't think he'd ever beaten Siriani either, right? I don't think so, no, because it was a playoff game or that game last year, at least. Yeah. I think we got to talk Pats. We've got to talk Tric May.

Let me say this. He has that fumble and you're like, okay, this is going to keep happening because it's a bad fumble. The, I don't like. He's got baby hands, man. There's no one in New England's going to want to hear that because hands can derail great men. This this fumble was just bad because it was like an awareness thing of like, hey, it's, you know, look, I get it. Rousseau's on fire right now.

And there was clearly, like he's going to win a bunch of reps throughout the end day. And so I guess I'm kind of sitting there going like, all right, they've been playing better. I think that they were really good as far as like we're going to start attacking this bill's defense, which by the way, when you look at the EPA. stuff. They've sorted it after week four. They're the third worst defense. Yep. Um, which makes sense. Bedford's out. I know Oliver went down. Bedford's so important to what they do in the back, because I just think there's such a drop off with, with the rest of the players. Uh, you can set me straight on that if you think I'm wrong. No, no, no, you're right. They just don't have

horses right now at all other than like Dionne Walker our guy. That's, but yeah, right. Yeah, but on the back end, definitely not. So as all the May stuff is like starting to have, because you can go through the eight games and make it the playoffs and then make it, is this going to be a bad game where they lose this thing? I'm like, you know what? There's too much juice to him. There's too much juice. And I don't mean to offend Brian Hoyer, but there's a reason why Brian Hoherer was never like

the guy long term anywhere. It's like, yes, we know you know the playbook. You're great in the quarterback room. These are compliments about Brian Hoare. But if Brian Hoyer where you're starting quarterback, every week you'd be going, can we do better than this? even though I know he had that absurd Chiefs game where he filled in relief

and it was like, oh, Belichick's just a god amongst men here. Drake, to me, has too much juice. And I thought that was on display yesterday, especially considering what's been happening to his own receiving core here. And it's not a great Bill's defense, but staying in the fight,

blowing the lead, then coming back. And much like that Niners possession with four minutes left, McDaniels is in his spot with Rabel going, all right, what do we do here? And it's like, let's go win the game. and they come out throwing, the announcers are like, all right, the clock is stopping.

And I'm like, they kind of have to do this. They need to be about trying to get a first down here to extend this thing. Because with the guy on the other side, like, who knows what's going to happen? You're probably going to end up losing. Yeah, the guy missed. Yeah, the other guy on the other side can do anything at any time. So go to Orbat, according to behind the back, should have been an intentional grounding. It was still hilarious, though.

What is that? That should have been grounding. It was unbelievable. Like, but it was hilarious. never seen a quarterback do that. So that was a new one for me. But that's, again, but they didn't even discuss it,

which is shocking. Usually the officials are great on that stuff. And there was no receiver in the area. It's a backhand. Like, good for Allen. At that point, like, I don't think it's, although it would have been a safety

if it was intentional grounding, right, because he was into the end zone. Yep. The reason I have to stay on this, not that I feel like I'm not cutting you off here because I'm about to educate everybody. Intentional grounding first installed in 1910, because basically once they,

allowed forward passing, guys were just throwing the ball at their own feet. Then there was another change in 1914. Teddy didn't think about that one, did he? Right, where it was a penalty and it was the loss of downs. Then I think in 1990, they changed it again. So it could be a spot foul and all these different things. I was wondering this about intentional grounded because it happens in college a little bit more. What if it were strictly enforced?

What if it was you actually had to throw the ball? ball at somebody. And forget the tackle box thing. I don't know if that would lead to more danger for quarterbacks. And as much as this has shifted towards protecting these guys, you have to, because nobody wants to roll out the Sunday NBC

primetime game and have it be Marioita against Brady Corp. Mario's backup. Yeah, right. Mario's backup. Because he started out. So I do wonder if

the rule is a applied the way it was supposed. I'm not going all the way back to 1910, but you can't, you shouldn't be able to throw a dirt ball at a running back that's like three yards to the left of you or something like that. You actually had to throw it to a.

Anyway, I'm just glad you brought up the Allen play because I couldn't believe they weren't even talking about it when it looked fairly obvious that that should have been a game changing play. At first I was like, oh, he's outside the pocket. I was like, no, he's not. And then I was like, okay, there's a receiver. And I watched it back. I was like, no, there wasn't.

There's nobody, like, it was really as clear as it can get. They try to reduce gray area. This is what I've been told, you know, over the years, you know, they try to reduce any gray area that's like without, hey, we're not going to argue intent here because that can work on the negative side where a receiver runs the wrong route. And then the guy, I think actually, Bryce Young got digging for it last night. But no, like a receiver runs a wrong route. You sail a pass. Like sometimes they'll call intentional grounding in that way and the negative way. Negative for the offense.

I'm an offensive guy, so it's negative. But then for the other sense is that, hey, we don't know if that guy was on a screen because you'll see the running back blocking sometimes they dirt it right at that or a tight end. And you see the quarterback pointing like, oh, no, I got an eligible right there. I think that's what it is just because don't worry, I got some rough stuff later. But it's like they are just trying to take away the gray air for the rest. Like even getting it past the line of scrimmage, they changed when I was in college. So about 15, 16 years ago, they changed that where it was like, just get it near the line of

scrimmage. You know, it's not, hey, you have to actually get it past. It's like, just get it close enough. That's really what they told us. Like, just get it close to the line of scrimmage. So, like, they're even like trying to just go like, yeah, so they don't have to get into like, what angle did that pass at with the marker there? Like they're just trying to reduce gray area. But no, I thought that was a clear as day one. But like in May, and actually speaking of Allen, like this is why those two are fun to watch both of them, does they have enough idiot in them that even the negatives it's just like whatever here i'm just going to launch this play on the like the next play like there there's that's why the high-end guys are the high-end guys

us mere mortals kind of think about the bad plays too much they just kind of go eh all right here comes the next play like i'm just going to launch this one like may has the fumble and next drive he's firing it um he's had the week from hell where i have to write 4,000 words check it on of Yahoo Sports, but I have to write 4,000 words on it. And then there he is on the first drive, like completing a fort down against a two-invert look, which was a really funky look from Leonard, actually. He hits Dobbs of the sideline. So two-unverts, two, but the safety is in the flat, corners back. And then he hits Dobbs on the touchdown, which was really good progression on. If anyone's watched Texas this year and watch Archmanning and Sarks offense, how many times

they run bubble pump, where they pump the bubble or pump the screen, and then they run the two wheel routes up the sideline or wheel route and a seam route they run it. Every time they pass the 30, I will put money on it. I'll put minus 500, minus 1,000 odds. They're about to run bubble pump. I think Manning had a pump where he then threw it to the pump fake and it got destroyed against Ohio State because it made me so mad. I was like, well, that's the checkdown, even though it always gets blown up. It says, here you take it. I don't think you can pump fake it and then throw it to the guy and have it work or whatever. Go ahead.

Oh, yeah, no, but what was really cool was that this is, again, it's kind of like May is seeing the game well, even if it doesn't feel like it sometimes, is he gets to the backside there. Not a lot of quarterbacks get to the backside, and Dobbs is running the end breaker, and he gets a long time to work on it because he's the backside running the glance,

which is like, you know, skinny pose, wherever you want to call it, bang eight. And so he pumps, and then you see him just work back, work back, work back and then he hits it and it hits put it right there on dobs so that is the stuff where it's like hey even though he's had the week from hell even though it's not gone perfect he's still working within the scheme and on top of working within the scheme and this is why the elite guys are elite guys and i think may is closer to that than he is to the middle of the pack that like people have been kind of making them out to be i know how the start the season is gone is that okay

working with them within the scheme but then the creation uh i mean they had multiple times where they botched the snap for whatever was going on with him in Wilson, botched the snap, and then he whirlwinds around and hits Hunter Henry on a crosser, the scrambles. He was very decisive. And it was very palpable, like, in that game where how decisive he was to, like, I'm going to let this play work. I'm going to find a checkdown.

Nope. Actually, this time I'm going to scramble. I'm going to bail. That is, you're picking one of those three options. And I thought he did a really good job of that throughout the game, even though he's had some pressure in his lap throughout the game. And, you know, he's throwing the Chisholm, who apparently Chisham, you know, maybe I've been ragged on a little too much. Oh, my God.

That is in all time. Like, even as he catches it, you're like, there's no way he caught that. No way, kidding. And then he did. And then before he had the dig route, which again was May working in the, and within the scheme. But then Chisholm, hey, those guys are paid to catch the ball. And sometimes it's Chisham doing it. And it's not the A.J. Brown that you traded a future first rounder for Romeo Dobbs.

that he paid a bunch of money for. It's, no, it's Chisholm. That's a step up. But no, I thought, I thought he was very decisive. He only took one sack, despite a 43% pressure rate. That's always a good sign. You mentioned, though, the Bill's defense isn't great. My numbers, yeah, 30th and E.P.

per play, 29th in success rate, so it's not even just big plays. It's, you can pepper them. And I'm in the credit, because I ragged on it in my article, I thought there's a lack of creativity with this offense. I'm not, I think Doug Marone, some of his stuff is a little archaic. I thought their run game had a lot more diversity to it. They run duo a little too much

even for me who's Mr. Duo and I love that play. They were doing the duo formations and then running different plays out of it. So it's like, okay, they're breaking their own tendencies. Like that shows a little bit of thoughtfulness.

It's not to the Jags level or Kyle Shanahan's level, but it's better than what they were doing. So I thought it was a really confident game from the Patriots on both sides of them. I think their defense has been doing some cool. stuff too. But yeah, but I really thought it was a confident game from them. They held Josh Allen to

four yards running, which is always going to be a good sign for you. Yeah. And then it turned into the Keon Coleman game considering all the guys that they were missing at receiver, which is incredible because Keon had about three years worth of celebration stored up to, like he was just, I was like, is he still going? And I don't really blame him. I'm like, this guy was just been a bus this entire time. And he was so good. And I love that Ross Tucker said that on the broadcast. He's like, this is the guy that was at Florida State. Like, dude, he was a man against boys at Florida State. And you're like, all right, even if he doesn't like workout, workout, it can't be this bad.

And for the most part, it has been that huge disappointment. So maybe something there to get him to break out of what has not been an impressive start to his career. The Josh Allen interception. And I know, like, look, the Niners situation with four minutes left and the lead is different than the Pat situation with a minute plus left in the lead. But they came out and they passed. it twice and then it's like they're in a spot where they've got to convert a third down and May converts it but even then with in that spot I'm like you know I just like I it depends on

the matchup right depends on how you're blocking it up and everything like even Philadelphia in their game that when they did get it down to the field goal decision in that moment they ended up doing that with running the football because it was like working during that series or I should say in that possession but the May well no let me me just save with this with the Allen. Second and six, he doesn't need that. I know they said that on the broadcast. That was it, that was the first couple of years, Josh Allen interception. And I don't know if that's just a sign of a frustrating day. Even when Alan had turned the corner, there's a throw he has against Cincinnati where he's deep and it's like second down.

And he just takes this shot. And they were backed up in their own end. And I remember watching the game because I was in Alabama at like a Texas roadhouse by myself because I'd stayed for the LSU game. But then I had to stay and do all the football stuff. So I like, I'll never forget. And I just went, oh, if he never gets rid of that, like, there's going to be a problem. And all it was is I think it was a reminder of the things that had us worried about Josh Allen in the beginning of his career, which we no longer worry about. And that's why it was so uncharacteristic. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It was like, oh, it crept back in. You're like, I can get us back and get us back right here. It's like, well, yeah, and fourth and six, maybe, you know, clock, third and six, timeout situation. Second and six, no way. You can't make that throw. And so whatever, he knows that. You still have more bites at the apple.

Like, yeah, that's the thing. You don't have to try and swallow the whole thing. No, I remember always the Jets would get him with under Sala, and he would have those moments where it's like bad Josh would come out. And again, I'm always going to favor quarterbacks to have the wild horse to him, like, and just try and rear just, hey, come back in as opposed to maybe the guy that's too safe because the guys there are too safe will never even try the stuff that pushes the ceiling up. They'll just say, hey, I'm okay with this.

You know, and that usually the backup quarterbacks and media really like those guys. But the guys that are the wild horses, or it's like, no, you got, yes, you take those negative, I mean, the last week against Chargers, he had a couple of those moments, too. You know, and some of that actually was even misreads. Like, his first pick was against quarters and he threw the inbreaker, like, you know, that's a route that's dead. So that's always going to rear its head. And he went in the second half, they had 16 dropbacks. He was only successful on four of them. Like, credit to the Patriots, again, they were making him press. And that felt like a pressed moment from Allen, which, again, don't usually feel, but he felt pressed a little bit in that game.

They, uh, last that, I'm sorry, they had, there's eight combined miss tackles in this entire game for four from each side. So both teams, if you watch, again, the Patriots receivers have yet to make anyone miss. That's an actual stat. They have not forced to miss tackles this entire season still. But again, the Patriots, though, is like when Alan got to checkdowns or got to underneath stuff or a play was about to pop, boom, nice tackle in space. So, again, I want to credit the Patriots for making Allen go, like, oh, I got to push this ball because no one's breaking tackles right now. Like, so you could feel that pressing moment. They popped at the very end. This episode is brought to you by Raising Cain, started back in the day by our friend Todd Graves.

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I have a Panthers question that will cover the Detroit game because that game was awesome too. But we've got to touch on the Chiefs win against Vegas because I was building this segment, depending on how this game would go is like, how is Vegas built? Because when you look at him, you're like, all right, they're kind of built with tight ends. We all love Bowers. I love mayor in college. I love to see his resurgence here. And whatever you think of Kirk, he is very good at those underthrows.

Like, I don't know what the numbers tell us. I don't know what the chart says of it. Like usually my issue would be with him third downs. I always felt like even when he was really, really good, it'd be a little third of, a little short of the sticks on a lot of that stuff. Or I was like, I don't know if he's necessarily. Well, he's kind of been preparing for this moment his entire life

because a lot of these throws are just maybe that 7 to 15 range where that feels like their comfort zone. Gentie had a big play. I mean, when I was sitting there thinking about it, I'm like, who is the best receiver on this team? I'm like, I guess it's Trey Tucker. Tray Tucker, maybe. Trey Tucker's their number one.

There's even some defensive pass rush numbers that are a lot worse than you would think because you just expect that Max Crosby's this complete game record. Number one in kickoff return. So the special team stuff has been really good. They had the weakest combined strength of schedule. So that had a little bit to do with it. So I actually thought they were going to get their ass kicked in this game.

And they did not. This was a hard one for the Chiefs until Mahomes hits Thornton in one of the strangest injuries you'll ever see because Thornton gets up with a broken ankle and celebrates, not realizing his leg is broken, and then falls down. And then somebody comes over to look at him and be like,

you're all right. And he's like, look at my foot. And it was just snapped to the side. He handled it very, that's about as well as I've ever seen anybody handle something. Dak handled it pretty well when his broke. I think it just freaks you out and your adrenaline's going on. That maybe it doesn't hurt for those first five minutes or something like that. But this was a hard game for King's.

Kansas City against the Vegas team. I thought, like, look, let's not kid ourselves. It's the schedule. They're not that good. It was, I think, well, Kubiak is now shown. He's got the goods. And I think their defense coordinator. Rob Leonard does some really good stuff, too.

I think this might be a betting angle if anyone's interested, is that I think the Raiders haven't let up a point on their opening drives yet this season. And then if you watch that opening drive from Kubiak in this game or even the Saints game, it's like, he knows the buttons to push. Like, he's a younger guy, but he's a younger guy. He's been calling plays for a decent amount, of course, as his dad. But we mentioned Bowers. You mentioned mayor.

And then Ian Thomas, the third tight end, it's catching a touchdown on like a beautiful design because that was just a playoff their most common run, which is toss zone. Zorro. A lot of the back to the left side for our guys yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. Back to the left. JFK, JFK offense. No, it's, you know, so they did the top.

They fake the toss. It's what's called a waggle. Fake the toss. And then because they had the motion, the chiefs defenders' brains popped because they're like, oh, motion, run, play. And then it's always classic because those enemy defenders bail back because they're like, okay, play action usually means an overrout I have to look up. And then there's Ian Thomas on just what they call why delay. Just delay and just run right at the seam. And there he is for a touchdown.

And you mentioned all the tight ends again, is that the Raiders had 27 plays yesterday where they had one or fewer receivers on the field. Kirk Cousins dropback 14 times. He went 10 of 14, 10 of 14 dropbacks were successful, 71% success rate, 0.53 EPA per play. So that means of those 14 dropbacks, he was averaging half a point. And then 9.1 net yards per attempt. And so they're getting into big bodies, and Kirk is seeing the game while and chucking it. And he threw it 52 times. Yeah.

52 times. And his top three targets were Bauer's mayor, I think is Gentile and then mayor. So, I mean, Trey Tucker's like fourth in targets yesterday, and even on the broadcasts were like, oh, the wide receiver is a little upset. We were like talking about the room. You're like, no shit. Like, no shit. People are looking at this wide receiver group being like Cody White's second and receiver targets for the entire game. The fumble part of this, I, the down, not down, wrist, hand, forearm, all that kind of stuff.

You know, it just, it's not like I was sitting there rooting for the Raiders necessarily. but it's like you hate to see like that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean because that was like Kansas City was just having a hard time with this. I mean,

I know they still ended up scoring 30 points, but like sometimes it's a hard 30. You know, I think Carolina's points, even against Detroit's defense where their corners just can't seem to cover anybody, it wasn't fucking easy for Bryce Young last night. Like that was a lot of work. Exactly.

It's what I talk about with the borough against the Jags. It's like, yeah, he got to. his numbers, but he had to work for those numbers and mentally had to work for those numbers. No, I agree. I think... By the way, I'm screwing up the fumble. I'm screwing up the fumble in the Denver game, in the San Francisco game. This was a straightforward one.

Yeah. Yeah, that's right. That's right. I was trying to remember the visual of it. Yeah, it was a kickoff fumble, but I mean, the same thing. It goes from 2319 to 3019 because the chiefs have a 20-yard field in this spot. But on the review, I was thinking at two different things, because, um, you know, that was young, right?

Dimitri Young. Yeah. And that was why he was just pained on the sideline going like, I think I just cost us the game. And again, like you said, you just hate, you want, you want good versus good. You don't want that to happen. The turnover is to have. Right.

You just want to see a flow. Everything worked fine. And I have. Because it was 4-0 Vegas after like, okay, you know, everything I talked about. Like, I wrote down on my notes, like, how is this Vegas team built? How are they built into a 3-0? And you're like, there's a lot of shit in here. There's a lot of stuff.

More notes on the Raiders than the chiefs in this game in a good way. Like when I... Yeah. Yeah. When I recap the last night. So basically we're both saying we like them. We feel... I don't know if it's a long term feel better or whatever.

Yeah. They were 3 and 0 and the best game they've played this year was the one they lost. Right. Is that fair? That's fair. They had no three and outs yesterday. Zero. Zero percent three and outs.

If you want to ask how hard three and outs are, the Eagles are 10 of their 13, three-quarter third quarter drives have resulted in a three-and-outes. this season. The Raiders, I have, I was not half-time adjustments. Not half-time adjustments. Just roll the ball out there and throw out. I don't even know. I'm being unfair, but that would, yeah. That's, that's what is that 10 of 13? Third quarter. 10 of 13, third quarter drives that result in a three and out for the Eagles. Yeah, so that's, that's the opposite of halftime adjustments. It's the, yeah, three versus David Webb. Yeah, 10 and 13. And then another that not counting because it's not three and out, they went four and out because they had to fill a forked-down conversion.

So make sure it's a third in love. Yeah. So we want to talk about just how the Raiders did. I have a stack called, I call it suplex. It's success rate, supposed to play rate. Just give it a little tweak of just not just using a success rate because I don't think it always gets there. It's like OPS for you.

Your own personal OPS. The Raiders won that battle, 5% differential. So they won that battle. They just had the two turnovers, but they were still in the game. And again, cousin, I mean, these quarterbacks got whacked yesterday. Cousins, that's always been an underrated thing with him is how tough he is. And how about like Kirk Cousins' creation? You're talking about like just seeing the game well?

Like he had the touchdown to Bowers. He had several bootlegs where it was almost Mahomesian where he's bootleg, bootleg, bootleg, and then finds the late outlet over the middle, like, which is like a, but Cousins who show by the book is also going, I'm like, yeah, I live in Vegas now. Let's try this out. It's working. I don't know.

He's so much more aggressive than what I've seen. You know, maybe the Atlanta experience turned him into like, hey, screw it. Like, let's just roll with this. But I don't know. It's been pretty fun to see him kind of just like let it all hang out a little bit or as much as he can let it all hang out. Yeah, look, I love seeing this from mayor because this is kind of what I thought he would be when he came into the league four years ago and he's never cracked 330 yards receiving

for a season. you could speak to the quarterbacks back there, but this is a nasty group and that stuff over the middle, like it would make sense. If these guys, if Bowers, who's going to catch everything,

and mayors, like if these are your targets, you like, it's like the old gronk stuff in the red zone. Not to say that they're gronk, but it's just, well,

I'm not going to lose. Yeah. Like, the worst is the incompletion. It's a good bet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

No, it's, no, I, I love mayor. I always thought he was underrated as a receiver and an athlete, and kind of overrated as a blocker in a weird way. And now he's a complete Y.

They extended him for a reason. They kind of knew what their offense can be built this way. And then, no, the old line's playing great. They're not perfect. Again, like R. Mason Thomas went off. But they didn't really get a lot. I don't think they got any sacks, despite all the hits. And so it's just one of those things where they're, it's playing, everyone's

playing, again, to their best abilities. Well, I mentioned that with Shanahan. That's how all these guys all feel with Kubiak, where all these guys, different guys are making plays where it's like, Like you said, White, Dunkin on Mansour Delane? Like, what? You know, like, that's, again, guys are playing confident because they're not thinking. They know that the scheme is working for them.

And it's cool to watch. Kansas City has scored 20 points in the fourth quarter to pull this up. Right. But that throw by Mahomes, Thornton, I hate what happened to Thornton. But that was like the reminder of, oh, yeah, like, I'm just going to make it happen. Mm-hmm. Okay. Pretty good.

I am going to we got quick hitters three pieces here so let's fly through this a little bit still feels like I could do 30 minutes on the Panthers I just love that game so much

I just love yesterday glowing still why don't you go first so I can ask you the last question that'll be our little sneak peek at Saturdays because I know you want me to ask you about one quarterback

so I'm going to do that at the end because we haven't done any Saturday stuff which we need to do a better job of because we both obviously like college so much as well. So you start, and then I'll go last, and it'll be about a quarterback in the SEC. If it feels like the refs are really going out for themselves, you know, marks for themselves, going into the business for themselves,

I think it's because they are. Okay, I got stats on this, but also just tangible stuff. Adrian Hill blowing up on Eric Wilson and Minnesota because he got run into, which was absolutely embarrassing. You got a side judge saying he didn't flag him though, right? Didn't he just yell at them and didn't say get back? Yeah. And like Eric Wilson was trying to help them.

It's like the refs are supposed to calm everything down. Like, why are you escalating? Protect and serve. No, the side judge saying, fuck you to Trey McBride multiple times, which was a new one to me. I've seen some refs get after coaches a little bit, but not a player. That was a new one to me. But also. Fort Morgan's own.

Oh, yeah. Yes. No, I know. So there's stats here. All right. Through four weeks, I can go all the way back in True Media in year 2000, so this century, this millennium. There have been more penalties per offensive snap through four weeks on record this year than ever. 6.2%.

It's up half a percent from last year through four weeks. So we're seeing more penalties per snap than we ever have, period, through four weeks. That is, they're throwing more flags. The refs are bowing up on players. who wants this? And it's not the good penalties. It's not defensive pass interference. You know,

it's not like the penalties that can lead to more points. They've called more offensive false starts this year since 2007. They have fourth most offensive holdings per game since 2000. Special teams penalties are up. So even punters are really good right now. So now we're getting 60, 70, our booms. We're getting offensive holdings on those booms.

So then the team gets pushed back even further. And I just like to compare even to 2020, which was the juice ball year in the NFL. All stats from 2020 should be thrown out, by the way. So penalties in 2020 through four weeks, there were 720 total. There's been 934 so far this year. And that was before we're playing Monday night. And this was halfway through Sunday night football. I looked this up.

So there's been 214 more penalties already through four weeks. Then we got in 2020. Defense of PI, there's 86 in 2020 through four weeks. There's 57 this year. Offensive Holdings. There was 102 through four weeks in 2020. There's 196 through this year. So false starts, offensive holdings, the bad penalties,

and they're just like throwing them. And if you watch the Jackson Bengals game, yeah, that was pretty, there was a lot of tic-y-tac penalties that they're calling. Jacksonville, what, 10 in the first half? 10 of the first half. Most of my team since, I think it was week 13, 20, 23, or something like that, which was the Cowboys, of course. Of course, they're going to be the most penalized team.

But no, just if so if you feel that way, anybody watching going like, man, there feels like there are. There literally has been more penalties through four weeks than ever. The how is that I can look at in 2020 or 2000, I'm sorry. All right. Well, I'm going to blame James Harden because I've seen things the last couple weeks. The CD-Lam arm hook against the Ravens where he got the flag on Wiggins. That was a James Harden grab the defender's arm, hook it with your non-dribbling hand, flail up into the body and get the

why the NBA officials have never figured out, be like, hey, even if we're wrong a couple times, let's just never, let's let this correct itself. Nope. Nope, we're just going to let them keep doing it. You're going to do it this year. Anytime you're ready, NBA officials to stop doing it. I'll be here on the couch waiting for it.

But now we're seeing receivers do this shit. We saw it on the Wallace PI, which was terrible and took off the interception for the Rams against, I think that was Bryant who flailed into that one. Speaking of Raiders, there's a play on that deep shot over the middle where the Raiders receiver dives into the body

of the Chief's defensive player I don't have the names but I remember the play because it was like ooh is there a contact oh there's contacts there's contacts or flags like no he dove into him so in a sport that didn't do this shit I don't know if they

somebody just got a hardened VHS for their birthday or something and they started watching the way he manipulates the game I think that's why the officials are mad. And I think the officials, I think some of these players could do a slightly better job running back into the field and not fucking truck sticking

the official while they're trying to get back to the field. So it sounds like I'm pro official right now. I'm just pointing out as a fair person because they could call way more PIs if they wanted to. And there's always the hey, no one does anything in the preseason. So all your pre-snap stuff, which you're pointing to, those numbers are exploding. Like this is part of it.

maybe. I don't know. That's a lot of flags. I couldn't believe some of those numbers there. I do think the officials are maybe fighting back in a way because the Vrable flag seemed crazy. We had the Liam Cohen one as well. Because Frable's like, I've done that a hundred times. And he said, that's a fucking terrible fucking call. You got two of two of them in there for the same sentence, which is hard to do. I think the officials are kind of sick of getting bodied, the physical nature of the job now. Have you noticed that too? Like guys are just running into it. them where you're like, you didn't have to celebrate a first down and then turn. And you're like, you're the most gifted people in the world at avoiding other contact.

And you're just walking through the side judge. They see red. They see the stripes that are like, I got my shot here. Like, I don't know. I think some too, if I do it playing devil's advocate, some of the procedural stuff is leaning, you know, new offensive stuff, more motion is going to lead to some procedural stuff. So I will agree with that. It just, you know, or I will say that to give him some benefit of the doubt.

I just, you know, just watch a Hockley on a night game and an island game. And notice how much he's in that quarterback huddle, how much he's talking to the quarterback. You know, it would make Big Don blush, you know, how much she gets into the shot. Just just focus on it. Does Big Dom have his sag card, I hope? Oh, man. You see Barclay get hurt? You know where Big Dom was.

It was the first thing I noticed. He's a trainer now. All right. That was mine. I had that hardened thing in the holster here for a little while after week three. So when I saw the Raiders guy try to dive into a Chiefs player to get a flag instead of, you know, I don't think he was going to catch a ball anyway. So your next quick hitter is that was mine. So I jumped on here.

No, but the Bears having more first down than the Jets had plays. I just kind of wanted to like laugh at that because it was just Ben Johnson's also a complete sicko starting with two quarterbacks on the first play. Like, that's like college, big school coach stuff messing with people, you know, not NFL, week four with backup quarterbacks, just a toy with people. So I don't know if my one-liner is like Ben Johnson's the right kind of sicko. And I'm like, I'm totally loving it because I just like that kind of niche stuff. I don't know if niche stuff is the right word for it. But on top of it, it's just that no matter who's that quarterback there and what Caleb's going to push that ceiling up, it's like Ben Johnson's got the goods as well. The run scheme's awesome.

The designs off the scheme. They're having played a perfect game. They're still putting up points and yards like that. I think they had 34 first downs. The only other team to hit that this year, I mean, anything about 30 is ridiculous. But 34, there's only two teams that have been both 30. And the other one was the bills against the Lions on that Thursday night game.

And we're seeing what that Lions defense is all about. There reminds me a lot of my dad's early Vikings teams, a lot of track meets with those Lions games. But no, Ben Johnson's the right kind of sicko. And then Dennis Allen, I have no idea how to gauge this bear's defense. But Dennis Allen, the defensive coordinator is doing some really cool stuff like I'm passing downs. And the Jets have some problems with their protection scheme. And Dennis Allen kind of like was like, oh, I can't wait to abuse this.

And that's what happens when you get whatever was 30-something first downs where they had more plays than the Jets or more first downs than the Jets even had plays. Your number one passer right now is Bryce Young. So let's see how this keeps going. because I want to talk about, and I don't mean this as an insult, but it doesn't sound like a compliment where I feel like the Panthers have gimmicked it in a way that works for Bryce Young. And I think Collinsworth, again, was terrific on the broadcast because I was kind of with him.

He's like, I went back and watched all every throw this summer. And I didn't really know what I was going to stand. And then, you know, he has that kind of game where I think Gino Smith had a Monday night game once where he was just on fire. And then everybody thought, like he was going to be really good. And, you know, it's been a little up and down. So maybe I don't think Carolina deserves more than a quick hitter.

So I'll just ask you this. Do you think the Chargers want Herbert to get hurt for the entire season? So classic broadcaster moment where they're like, all right, well, Herbert's had a rough stretch of it. We'll see how it goes. First play, boom, interception. You just go like, you didn't even finish the sentence. And it's already thrown it the other way. Now, Donald would turn the favor on his first play.

But the interception at the end of the first half is absolutely. inexcusable. You're at your own 28 and he takes that shot. It's terrible. That leads to a quick touchdown two plays later for Seattle. This was a strange game because at no point did you ever think the charges were actually in it and yet they were in it. Then Mike McDaniel

where that shit's fun when you're scoring 70 against the Broncos and quote and rock him. But man, like this guy's taking a beating. Herbert looks broken. You're down another tackle again.

Lad leaves the game again and you're going Philly special for this dude at that point where it felt like I get to give the charges like they stayed in the game in a game that didn't seem like it was going to happen but in that moment where it's like hey this isn't going to happen today this is going to happen today and so now you're sending Herbert out there on a potential to get crushed he got hitting the ribs

where I couldn't believe he got up as quickly as he did and then ran it immediately afterwards so I know the simple answers no of course the Chargers don't actually want him to get hurt for the season but I almost felt like that game was reckless, even though technically I have to admit they kind of did get back into the game. And that's, yeah, that's the both sides of it.

It's kind of like, yeah, a guy, our quarterback got hit. He got knocked down 16 times. And it's not like all knockdowns aren't built the same. Those were hard knockdowns. Like you mentioned, the shots of the ribs, all that stuff. And I'm with you where it's just, I don't know, man. It's just, they're so sloppy.

And that's what's been so. disappointing about watching them. It's just like they're not even like well coached. Like they have some cool scheme stuff, but no, but every guy doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make, I just still blows my mind. Anyone that doesn't like Herbert, you have all the ammunition right now. Oh yeah. But everyone would tell you it's never been this bad. Right. And this is the stretch that he's on right now. So if you don't like them, you know, you're winning. And you don't even have to watch the full game. You can just watch the first play and you're like, see, we're done. Like, you know, Yeah, but that interception isn't as bad as the second one is awful.

The second one is like, hey, how many starts have you had? Well, that was the one last week. To CJ Governor Johnson. It was like, it was a high school read. And I keep going back to it. It's like, he threw a post to a post safety. It's like the thing you don't do when you did it. Or not getting the ball off in the red zone on fourth down.

Right. You know, just stuff where you're like, what are you doing? Yeah. And I think that's him having a carryover of last season. It's kind of like that CJ Stroud thing. I'm going to have to ask you to nerd out on the film where he seems to add two extra yards to the drop. And I wouldn't blame him considering that offensive line. But there was a third and long, I think, a really deep ball.

It was a comeback, but it was like a 20-yard, well, it was probably more than a 20-yard air throw. It might have been like 20 yards beyond the line of scrimmage where he throws it to Hutchinson and the corner closes down and breaks it up. And you're like, okay, but why are you drifting backwards? Just a couple extra yards because now, you know, just a science of how much longer the ball is going to take to get there. I'm going to have to send you that throw because I didn't want to talk about it today, but I just did.

I can nail myself. All right. So the final two slots are going to be for you because I'm going to ask you a question. So go ahead. Oh, mine actually, I had a college one, which I thought you would like, sorry if I was over a spin. Oh, well, I have another college one on top of the one that I think you're going to throw me.

And that's, I saw some atrocious clock and game management this weekend. And I was even trying to pay attention to that stuff. And it's from college coaches with NFL experience, which, have you noticed that college coaches do not know how to handle the two-minute warning or whatever they call in college. I'm sorry, they don't know how to handle it. It's amazing to me. But PJ, well, they never call a timeout before it. Well, is that part of it? Jed Fish did. Burning a timeout before fourth down with 220 left to go in all three timeouts. If you don't do not get this, you should be, they should be running a play there. It was fourth down, fourth and five or so. And they're backed up and a Williams ends up

making a great play. They call a timeout before that. That is terrible game management. They should be running a ball play before the two-minute warning, so they get an extra timeout. So then if they don't get it, they can stop the clock and get the ball back. Right, right. And he burns the timeout, so there you have two timeouts.

And then they burn two more when they are in scoring range after Williams makes that play. And it was like, no, you should be holding on to these. Because if you don't get it, it's game over, and then they didn't get it. And Jetfish used to be the clock and game management guy for Sean McVeigh in L.A. So shows you what that title is. But then, and he does some good offensive stuff. I actually do like some stuff Washington does. I think Judge is a good coach.

He, he do. I was reading about his timeout strategy where he was quoted in a bunch of different times. And he admits, like, I am not going to do it by the book the way the other people are. He's like, defenses can have the timeouts in the first half. We don't even care. Second half, they're for the offense and for that end. But I know, look, no one is going to go, oh, okay, well, then that makes sense. in the SC game.

I understand. I'm not defending that. But I just thought it was super... Right. I thought it was very interesting that he was so revealing that he's like, I'm not going to do it the way everybody expects me to do it all the time.

And I guess mission accomplished. Yeah, I guess. Exactly. And then PJ Fleck kicks an extra point when they're up five in the fourth quarter, which was go for two there. When points are at a premium. That one blew my mind too.

But apparently when I tweeted that one out, Minnesota fans. Like first time watching PJ Fleck. So again, I have been enjoying watching the gophers this year. Even as a Wisconsin guy, I like their quarterback, Drake Lindsay. I like him. I think they're really well coached right now. It's not always pretty.

Like they're a little safe on offense sometimes, but it's like, I don't know. I've watched a lot of their, if you have a good quarterback, I'm going to watch a lot of your ball games. So I was watching that. I've been watching a lot of Minnesota this year. And I thought he had their team has been coached really well this. here. It helps when you go against Bryce Underwood, I guess, as well.

It does help, unless you're Iowa. All right, final one. The floor is yours on some more. We have to talk about Austin Simmons. We had the showdown with Camaro Taylor, but Austin Simmons, you know, whether it's Taylor getting all the national pub and what Keelan Russell's done the last couple of weeks,

Trinidad having his moments. The other bigger name established guys like Levitt transferring in, and obviously Gunner still being there. I could probably still throw a couple more names if we wanted to, one guy named Arch and Austin. But the Austin Simmons show feels very real. And that was an ass-whipping all over the field for Missouri in a spot where you're like, I, Florida will probably get them.

Missouri always feels like, oh, hey, nice little Missouri story there. Look at you guys thinking you're going to get to the playoffs. But where is Austin Simmons right now a quarterback for you from what you've seen? So I'm going to be writing a mock draft, my first mock draft today, actually. And he'll be in it. You'll be in that first round. He's going to be a first round pick. Yeah.

It's not just, you know, arm talent's arm, talent, big arm, big arm, whatever, but it's how he's using it. He is progressing as far as, you know, just as a player, but progressing from the pocket. He can make the hard throws. And I think NFL throws, you know, gets thrown around. But NFL throws, not just, it's not just like he had a big dig on third down that was really nice. He progresses through it. It's called a dagger concept. And he progresses through it, beautiful.

but then just if you watch him push it to the outside, it'll be a little five-yard, six-yard-out routes. He's throwing him all the way to the field before the flat defender can get there. And that's real arm juice. That's talent, arm talent. The thing is, though, hanging in the pocket, progressing, getting better each week as well.

He stood out to me a few, I mean, shoot, when he was at Ole Miss, he stood out to me because Jackson Dark kept getting banged up. And then I was like, who the heck is this guy? And I was like, oh, baseball background. Are you like 16? Like, it's like, what is this guy? You know, I'm not in tune on recruiting all the time.

It's like, you're not a real boy until I see you in college. You know, I can care less about some of the recruiting stuff. There's some guys, I'll keep tabs on. But, and then I kind of, you know, he beat out Trinidad last year and then got hurt. And then I really like Trinidad. And so I can see why he never relinquished the job. But Simmons is young. He's 20.

He's got good size. He's not the biggest guy. Pressure can get to him a little bit where he's kind of can squeeze up against pressure. But that's a live arm and he knows how to use it. And now his timing is caught up to the arm talent. And that, if you watch his feet, he is playing with calm feet and a game in big moments on third down or two minutes like last week and throw after throw after throw. And hate to be this guy, but actually I was more impressed by him than Taylor last week.

I know Taylor had the highlight throws. But all the in between stuff, I thought Simmons was much better quarterback throughout the four quarters. I know he had a couple like dropped interceptions at the end, but it was really throughout that four quarters. Big throws on third down. Great decision making and great progressing too from the pocket. And so yeah, he'll be he'll be up there. I've been trying to decide to me right now, it's like he's battling for quarterback three, quarterback four, because other guys have definitely dropped off. Like sellers for me has dropped off. Dante Moore has dropped off. But I have him up there with, you know, Arch, Mestemaker, Trinidad. Like I really do think he's, he's real. And it's

really cool because he's so young still even though he's draft eligible. He had to throw to Caden Lee on the right sideline where on the TV broadcast you couldn't see Cade because of the way the angle now granted I mean he's throwing the ball so he knows but it's one of those leads where it's not over the top it's not like outside shoulder it's not you know leading the post cut you know the safety's gone so you can that's such an I'm not saying it's an easy throw but it's a

It feels great because you're like, if I just throw it out in front of this guy off of that cut, and I know there's no safety over there. I can kind of get away. I don't have to like feathered. This had to be like feathered. It had to be in front of the DB. But again, the DB, it looks like you can't see the receiver. And then he like pops out behind him.

And it was like feathered down the numbers kind of on the inside of it where he's either. Because it just doesn't look like he's beat the defensive back at all. And it looks like out of. You know what I'm saying? Like it looks like, oh, that's a dangerous, dangerous throw. And it wasn't. Yeah. It was, no, no, I know exactly what's happening here right now.

And he even gets a little like funky with some of the body angle on some of this stuff or it's almost like he's showing off a little bit. Yep. Yeah. I mean, the one, the bot snap was, it was, it wasn't, you know, it just stuff happens. But the bot snap that turns into a touchdown, like that's a display of armed talent and weird circumstances too, because he's on his back foot. and he's not throwing that high and he's not line driving. It's what Paul Christie just called looping liner where it's just, that ball doesn't come off the screen and it's 40-something yards on his back foot.

And that's like, that's easy arm talent, like easy arm strength. It's not just throwing it like Ryan Mallet 90 yards down the field. You know, it's throwing those balls. And you talked about before, you don't always get the perfect seven on seven pockets. He's just, oh, yeah, that's great. It's usually off your back foot or from weird platforms. and that arm strength never dips.

Those RPMs never dip. So again, to me, that's high-end stuff. Yeah, no, he's been super oppressive to me. That'll do it. A new personal record for us. Thanks to Nate Tice, Football 301, Yahoo Sports. We'll be back every Monday here talking some NFL and probably even a little bit more college.

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My college football top 12 after five weeks of action. I love kind of where we're at right now because I don't, maybe it's just getting older and doing this job as long as you do it, where you kind of feel like I'm less emphatic about things just because you've seen so many different things happening. but we do fall in love with some of these teams in August, and then we fall in love with them all over again. But I have problems with a lot of the top teams,

and I think that's going to be really exciting. There's another part of this too where I, look, granted, I've talked about the SEC depth. I'm not the only one. But there's something to be said about the second tier in the Big Ten. I don't know if UCLA is really this good. They're ranked now. They're 21st.

Minnesota, getting Michigan, which Michigan is supposed to be, whether it was creeping into Tier 1 or Tier 2, I don't even know if they're in tier two. It doesn't necessarily matter. But that kind of speaks to that Iowa. Come back against them is like, hey, is that a great win?

It was considering the circumstances, but considering where Michigan's out offensively and Underwood having this really great game, I think by his standards against Iowa and then the game against Minnesota, we're okay, all right, so we're back to the drawing board. But the positive, the positive of all of this, is that Nebraska is scoring a ton of points.

UCLA scoring a ton of points. Minnesota's probably going to be a tougher out. Wisconsin is much, they're not bad, but they're much better than you would have thought. Northwestern scoring a ton of points. So there's something to be said, and maybe that's replacing Michigan and replacing Penn State, but with the flaws that we've seen from top contenders in both conferences, really we could talk about all the conferences other than the ACC, because Miami looks ridiculous.

It may lead to a few more surprises, maybe more so in the Big Ten than we're accustomed to where it's felt like the Big Ten traditionally, like, okay, here's the top line, and then everybody else is kind of an easy out. So I think that makes the season even more exciting. I'm going to keep Texas at number one off this past week as they get ready for Oklahoma, who's also off in the Red River rivalry. Texas is favored by six, which tells you basically everything you need to know about this series. I was going back through it.

You know, there's been times where one team came in is the clear better team, and because of this rivalry and what it means, you kind of have to throw it all out. There's also that stretch from 20 and 21 where they scored over 200 points combined and just absolute shootouts. Again, rivalry, you don't call it that. I don't think you have to worry about 100 points

being scored with Oklahoma's offense coming in. They're 94th in yards per play, which is actually up from last year. That's how bad their offense was, 107. So look, I'm keeping Texas at one. Texas is actually 87th in yards per play. and that's why anybody that says, hey, I don't have Texas number one,

and I have one of these other teams, I'd be totally fine with it. Keeping Georgia to, I don't know that Vandy's a real test score-wise. It was a little bit earlier there. One of the running backs is dinged up. I'm picking Georgia at Alabama this weekend,

and we will get to Alabama, who now the last two weeks on offense is absolutely rolling. Georgia has not won at Brian Denny since 2007. I'm putting Miami, Emmy number three in the AP, Notre Dame is number three. Again, it's a toss-up. I know it's Clemson, but at least it was someone. And again, if you're saying Clemson isn't someone anymore, that's fine.

But it was the exact same thing, at least with better personnel. And yeah, the Menses stats are absurd. And sure, a lot of the throws are behind the line of scrimmage. But look at the first play of that game. Like, I'm watching it. I'm like, okay, it's another throw at the line of scrimmage. Barkate, who came over from Duke. And it's so well executed that 78, the offensive line from Miami, doesn't even have

anyone to block on this inside screen. Like, he's looking for somebody on Clemson to kill. And it's so perfectly executed, Clemson's a mess on it. And he goes 70-plus yards. 78 finally gets his hands on somebody. I don't know if that block necessarily would have mattered. But I watch it back again. I'm like, this is ridiculous what they're doing.

and Damon Wilson, who was at UGA, who had nine sacks last year from Missouri, absolutely dominant this game from a pass-fushing standpoint. So maybe it was Saturday night, maybe it was the atmosphere. I think Herb Street at one point was like, yeah, they can't do anything on offense and Tate the quarterback from Clemson's limping down, so this is great. And maybe it's just because Notre Dame messed around with North Carolina for the first half. And that brings us to the Irish at number four. They scored, they punted, then scored on eight of their next nine possessions.

North Carolina ties, well, they should have tied it up with a kickoff return to start the second half. So it's 2120 and you're like, what the hell's going on here? It's Belichick going to have some sort of moment. Not the case. CJ Carr had a ton of touchdowns in this one. But Walton, who's the third string, or was going to be the third string running back? He's not anymore. He's getting the bulk of the carries and he did against North Carolina as well. He goes off. So it's like, all right, here's a third weapon. And that's kind of been the thing now with Notre Dame is you're like, who is some of these other guys going to be after the established names. After the two running backs go to the pros last year.

It looks like they've got three running backs. It looks like they have plenty of wide receivers. And you could nitpick about the defense a little bit here if you wanted to. But this is 15 straight wins by double digits. That's number two all time to Miami, the greatest talent, as far as any rosters ever happened in college football, that 2000, 2001 team won 17 straight games by double digits. Again, go back and look at that roster if you're bored today. at BYU in two weeks for Notre Dame.

They're already favored. Again, I don't know if you can get in anywhere, but it's minus 10 at BYU, which speaks to what we saw from BYU this weekend. All right, number five, Ohio State. That was the most typical Iowa game ever. I mean this kind of like a compliment, but Iowa football feels like having a lakehouse,

but you're across the street from the lake. And you hope you become friends with the neighbors. And you're like, hey, you know, tell the kids anytime they want to come by, but like it still isn't your lakefront. and it's awesome to have a lake house in the lake village, but you're not on the lake. And there's just always something kind of missing. And that's how it feels like with Iowa,

even in the really good seasons, where you find out immediately like, yeah, you're not one of these teams, even with the start and the respect that we all have for them. And I love the game day was there. Love those people. But you're watching that game play out going, yeah, this isn't going to happen. Like, it's just not going to happen.

I thought Sayans mobility in the pocket, because I've been talking about him a little bit, a little reminder of some of the stuff that maybe scouts would like, if not him matching up physically with some of the other guys. With Jeremiah Smith, whatever, Heisman favorite. Hank Brown was 12 or 27. I think the backup actually looked a little bit better there for Iowa, but it was also in a situation where Ohio State wasn't exactly ramped up on defense

because it didn't really matter. So he goes 5'5 with a touchdown. Smith finishes with 11 with 206 and another two touchdowns. And, yeah, I mean, if I want to look at some Ohio State, I was looking for something with Ohio State. They're 12th in yards per carry, but we like both of their running backs. So it doesn't really seem to matter as of right now.

Indiana put them at six. Bama is six in the AP. So Indiana did drop one spot there. Battle with Nebraska for first place. But there are six two and O ten teams. Six two and O teams in the Big Ten. Number seven, Alabama. All right.

So Keel and Russell, the last two weeks, he's been maybe the best quarterback in all of college football. He's number one in total, B.R in college football. Coleman Williams, three state games of the touchdown. Now, yards per carry. The beginning of the year, I was like, maybe Russell's the quarterback because he's going to be able to escape

and they don't necessarily like their offensive line. And there's a bunch of procedural stuff with them that I haven't really been able to figure out why it's been such a mess. But at times, like the Kentucky game, defense took over. This past weekend with the showdown with Camario Taylor, you're like, okay, they can just go crazy. They went crazy against South Carolina, who's a mess. but watching Keelan Russell in this offense now,

this is what's interesting about the Georgia matchup because as much as we love Gunner Stockton's efficiency and what Georgia has done and more explosive plays, we talked to Bill Connolly about that last week. It's like, you know, Georgia, he called them a blue chip service academy on offense the last few years and there's numbers that back all that stuff up, but to the start of this season, it's looked a little bit different.

But will they, and I don't know if it turns into a shootout because I think both of these defenses are capable of having just a great Saturday. But if it turns to some kind of shootout, can Stockton and that offense keep up with what looks like one of the best wide receiver rooms with Coleman Williams looking back, Brooks, Scott? That's an incredible group at wide receiver. So will Georgia be able to hang with them personnel-wise and at quarterback? And based on what we've seen in the last two weeks, like I don't think Russell's going to play like that against Georgia's defense, but at least you know it's a possibility. And some of these deep throws now and his patience and what he's doing with his physical tools are incredibly impressive. So the other thing, too, was running the football last year.

They were 127th in yards per carry, which seems impossible. Like no one will ever believe that five years from now that an Alabama football team that actually made the playoff was 127th in college football and yards per carry. This year, they're 34th. So that number is starting to go in the right direction. All right. So number eight, this is where it gets weird. and it's starting to, with the AP poll, turn into standings instead of actual rankings.

They have BYU 8th, and I talked about Texas Tech being disrespected last week in the polls, and after their battle with Colorado, and Dion Sanders, who apparently is going to play like 10 quarterbacks a season, look, I can't put BYU 8th, all right? Bear at quarterback. Bachmeyer had, let me see the number here. He had 62 yards passing in this game.

He was 11 to 24. When I looked up when they were battling with TCU and he ends up running in that touchdown that basically sealed the game, even though it was still a lot of game left. And the defense is so good with BYU that you're like, all right, well, they don't have to worry about it. So I had these dueling Big 12 teams that you're like, Texas Tech isn't what we thought it would be.

BYU isn't necessarily what we thought it be, but the voters have liked BYU more than Texas Tech, even though I think going into this week, the BYU schedule didn't even stack up with what Texas Tech had done. Again, I think it was because everybody seemed to be watching at Oregon State game, which was tough than the Houston game. But whatever, I mean, they pulled it out. That was a ranked team.

You can have them to this point. Because I don't, I think that number were Notre Dame's favored by 10 at their place tells you that Vegas does not look at BYU right now, despite the record and despite the rankings as a real threat. So why are they ahead of Ole Miss? Why are they ahead of LSU? You know, Ole Miss with their life, but they've played people. LSU's played someone, and they both have a loss to show for it. So granted, the Florida thing is over after their beat down at Missouri. By the way, how about that game? I'm not obviously going to have Florida in my top 12. They fell to 16 in the AP, 15 in the coaches pulled.

But of all the ways that Missouri, Florida game could go. And Simmons has been one of the best quarterback stories in all of college football. I don't have Missouri in my top 12. They're 14 of the AP. They didn't make my thing. Even though if you wanted to say, hey, would there win against Florida that's better or anything that Texas Tech and BYU's done, that would also sort of apply to what I'm doing here.

I thought it was the tackles for loss early against Florida's rushing attack. We were like, wait a minute. Like, this doesn't happen at Jaden Ball. This is the best running back in college football. He had 12 carries for 13 yards. And again, getting behind the line of scrimmage with a defensive front and, you know, the overall defense losing four players of the NFL draft. So look out for Missou maybe creeping in at some point, taking a look at their schedule. They've got A&M.

Then they're at Ole Miss. So they get two of those. They're going to be flirting with a playoff appearance here. That should be maybe even more than what BYU, Texas Tech has done. So maybe I'm still stuck to the preseason thing here a little bit. So I went number eight, Ole Miss. yes, I get it. They got their ass kicked at Florida, but they've played Florida and LSU, and they played Louisville.

LSU loses a close one at Ole Miss, houses A&M. That'll be a ranked win now, but it shouldn't be a ranked win at the end of the season. Who knows what's going to happen with A&M? So I'm just going to put those two teams ahead of BYU who's passing offense I could not support in Texas Tech, where if you look at their yards per play allowed, they were number one in college football last year.

They're 26th. So I'll go Ole Miss 8, LSU 9, Texas Tech, 10th. I'm going to put Utah ahead of BYU, so that's 11, 12, knowing that maybe there's an argument to get Oregon back in the mix, but that loss is going to look so nasty. And maybe Missouri's the answer to this. So there you go, top 12. You want details?

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Saw DJ Shadow do introducing, start to finish solo. Didn't even bother inviting anyone, knew no one would want to go, was in heaven. That's one of the formative CDs of my entire life. So I was trying to explain to the people who are like, what are you doing? Why do you want to do that? Brian was the guy explaining to the girl at the bar who's clearly not interested in what's going on. I don't even bother. Do you know how important DJ Shadow is?

you think there's a skip on introducing Are you serious? And he had these great visuals going Then he told some stories She tried to get him on the pot And then the whole thing was around Diplo Run Club Which I had I vastly underestimated what that was

I was like so what do they get together It's kind of like an organic Just a bunch of people meet up And it's pop-up flash mob Nope 12,000 people at a park and it's going to take forever to get into it. Actually, it was pretty well handled, but I didn't give myself enough buffer,

so I wasn't able to run, unfortunately. But somebody ran with my bib in their pocket, so apparently I ran like a 20, 20 minute 5K, so still got to. Like that war gone. Yeah. Suck one. I always love those Will Ferrell Bud Light ads.

Bud Light, suck one. All right, we're burying the lead here. Kyle has a glow to him today. Yeah, he does. and if you're watching this show on Netflix, I'm looking up instead of at my laptop because that's the way the screen's going to work. Kyle, I got I'm going to hand it to your boys.

They came in, they battled, got one on the road against the bills. How are we feeling? It didn't feel like it was going to be a get-right game. So I didn't wear this jersey yesterday. I wore a black Patriots hat that I could totally stash if it was like, I was going to be out all day

because I didn't work last night. So I was like, I'm going to hit the town. So I didn't want to be a sad guy walking around in this fucking Patriots jersey. And now I wish I did because that was, that was unbelievable. It was awesome. I was watching next to like an adorable, older Philly family that were watching the Eagles. So it was really just a great time for the most of it.

For the most part they did. But yeah, what are you doing like the reverse funeral thing when a team shows up to an elimination game dressed in black? I just didn't feel like nothing gave me any real hope other than the one I just have to, the bottom line of hope I have to carry from week to week. And I just, I didn't want to be like. I didn't want to be like standing out in this in this jersey and I wish I did because it was really was really fucking awesome. Is that the move now though then? So you just just black hat until they

lose otherwise? No, I just I don't know. It just didn't feel right. I was like this is there was no like hope, you know, going into like, oh, Drake May. It's up. It's like we're doing fake shoulder injuries or whatever. I was just like this is this is I didn't really have any real hope. Plus I didn't want to get this thing dirty too. You know, I'm out there eating wings and sweet chili sauce. I just didn't want to ruin. You got to get this thing dry cleaned. You can't throw the fucking washing machine, you know. This is the pre-ed up. Raiders, Jets,

bears, dolphins, Packers, next five. Give me your projected, based on your model, what the Pat's record will be after those next five games. Those next five wins? Yeah, dude. All right.

Maybe the Packers, I don't know. Maybe the Packers. Packers. I would say at Chicago. Is Caleb going to be back? Thursday game. Yeah, I think they're going to let Caleb Williams get his job back. All right, cool.

As great as that Bayesian roll out. You've got to go through Bayesian's dad, though, don't you? He's behind you guys now, you know? I know. Has there ever been two less supportive dads on a quarterback's team between Rome and Bejan? Yeah. Like, what's the system here? Everybody, all my teammates' dad's shit on me.

All right. Let's, well, you can send an email to us if he wants to. Let's get to, um, let's get to one here. This is called the Jonas Brothers Fight. 511-205. My NBA comp in my men's league is Luke Kinnard. Hold my own on defense. Great catch and shoot.

Much worse off the dribble. Need you to tell me if I'm in the wrong here. The other night I ended up at a Jonas Brothers concert. Originally when I agreed to go with my girlfriend, my favorite band All-Time Low was supposed to open for the show. Okay. So Rudy, you got a big all-time low guy. No, it rings a bell.

I'm trying to think of a song. Hold on. Number four. Well, that's okay. Oh, wait. Yeah, Dear Maria, Cal me in. Great song. Great song.

Okay. Millennial Classic. There you go. That's what I've thought. I was thinking about this the other day, just a quick aside. Like, whenever you think of the 50s, you think of something. Whenever you think of the 60s, you definitely think of something. Same thing with the 70s, 80s, 90s.

What do you think of when you think of the 2000s? 50s. Everywhere. Yeah. Rock the boat. Lincoln Park. He's fucking everywhere. You're not.

you're not doing a great job. New metal. I'm just thinking. I'm not even talking about like music, but just a thing. Yeah, I thought about this a lot actually because I feel like then

and I was born in what, 1988 so like I didn't have like a, you know, I was born and raised in the 90s, but the 90s kind of feels like the last like really cool decade. Bright colors. Is that fair to say?

Because the 2000, I grew up. I was a teenager in early 20s in the 2000s. And there was like a lot bad fashion. There's a lot of questionable music. Big emo scene. Like, I don't know. I'm not saying I hate it. Prostitips, puka shells. Yeah, I'm thinking.

But I don't know that you look back and go, that was cool. You know, like, it was just the thing that happened. Whereas the 90s, you're like, oh, man, the aesthetic, like Seinfeld, the Bulls. Like, there's just so much. And again, that was probably like really pre-internly social media. So that probably plays into it too. But yeah, I don't know. 2000s were weird, man. It just doesn't feel like there's this identifiable feel.

Like when I say 70s, now granted, you could also say the 70s. are the worst because it's probably when confidence in the country was at its lowest ever for a bunch of very justified reasons. But whenever I'll like read something or then I'll think back, like the 90s, I could just sit here and riff for five minutes and like, hey, the 90s were this. The 2000s, I don't know, man. I wonder, I wonder if that means anything. All right, moving on. Back to the emails. So yeah, share amongst your friends. So, um, all time low was supposed to open. Spoiler, they did not open, but I kept my word and went anyway. Not all heroes wear capes. Two dudes I'm friends with who agreed to go to the show in the same presupp position.

Smartly bailed a week beforehand after they found out all-time low wouldn't be there. So the crew ended up me and my girlfriend plus seven other girls. For context, all of these other girls are friends of my girlfriend. Again, I agreed to go, so no one should cry for me, but damn. Anyway, long story short, the girl buying the tickets for the whole group fucked up and accidentally bought one of the eight tickets in row B, B, instead of row B. So we all got to our seats and realized one girl, let's call her Lucy, was sitting alone in row B, b, while seven of us were sitting in B, including me. Me being the only guy, immediately texted the other girl, Lucy, who I've been friends with for years, she's married, don't make it weird, telling her she needed to immediately come down and take my seat so she could sit with her other seven girlfriends. and I'd take the solo seat. There was zero reason for her to be alone while the one guy took a girl gang seat. The girl played it off, said no big deal, as in she was being gracious about it, but as any good guy,

I was going to force the issue, walk up to her row and make her take my seat. Here's a problem. My girlfriend immediately started poking at me saying she didn't want me to move because she wanted to sit next to me, even though she's friends with all these girls. They're in a group chat together. I know for a fact they're actual friends, not fake friends. She complained and guilted me about giving up the seat and regrettably I stayed. Should I have forced the issue here? I see my girlfriend every single day. To me, this is an obvious moment where both should have sacrificed two hours at a concert so that someone were friends with could have a good time. I thought my girlfriend was incredibly selfish and I've been disappointed about it since. Lucy, the row BB girl, is close with all of these girls and would have had a

great time in the row with everybody else but also added to the girl group vibes. And meanwhile, my girlfriend and block the move. I will say I could tell the other girls were frustrated about it, but I chose to keep the peace and not force the issue. Love you guys making a ruling. What could I have done differently,

if anything? I respect the jury. I think it's good that you went back to mind in your business, man. I really do. I think that's the best move because, like, I understand that you want to be like,

no, you're absolutely, you don't deserve it. Like, I understand that you want to, in your head you wanted to do that, but like, if your girlfriend already is going to be upset that you even tried that, and then you actually went and pulled off the swing,

which, you know, you'd rather her satellite friends be disappointed in you than, you know, than the person that you live with or whatever, you know. So I think it's nice that you, your head is in the right place. I think it's fine to be disappointed in your girlfriend for her I don't think it's okay to tell her. That's going to be out and well for you. So I think everyone knows where you stand. You maybe made a big enough scene so that her friends were like, well, fuck, at least he tried, but, you know. Right. So I think this is, this is the max effort you should have put into it. Correct. This is a, she,

lack of self-awareness there from her is bad. Like that, like this is a no-brainer. You made the right call. Everyone else knew it except your girlfriend. That's, I'm not saying it's a red flag, but it's a flag. But as Kyle said, like all the other girls, knowing that you were willing to fall on the sword here is huge for you. And you don't have to ruin anything on the home front. You just kind of let it die there. I will say, you know, this could be one of those things where in like a month or so you got an

an argument, and you could just bring up like, and you didn't let me move that seat. And everyone thinks you're going to do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. This one's got to be buried deep down. Like, you don't ever bring this up again because it's probably not really great. That's the worst, right? When you're fighting and you're like, I need something. I need ammo.

Yeah. Yeah, I need something. And your fucking uncle. Immediate regret when you pull that thing out. So don't do that. Don't do that. But the win is that everyone kind of knew that you were the right guy here. So that's good for you.

You're good. You lost when you woke up that day, man. Well, J-brose? had a great attitude about it. Yeah. Yeah, this guy's great. Like, he still went. I mean, this is the thing that I think is one of the frustrating dynamics as we try to figure out the opposite sex. But let's face it, like if there's something I want to do and I know that she's going to hate it, I don't ask her to go. They ask us to go to the things we know we're going to hate to prove some fucking point. I mean, if you ever had to sum up the discise,

connect that will live on forever. It's that. It's dudes generally are not like, do you want to go to WWE with me and seven of my friends? Get blackout drunk, eat some wings. Yeah. Let's do it. We're going to wear oversized t-shirts. The new Allegiance Stadium is supposed to be sick. Right. Party brothers are showing up. Yeah. When she says no, you're like, hey, you don't want to go to this, do you?

And she goes, absolutely not. You're like, that's it. You'd never say, like, well, it would mean a lot to me if you went. So you're the man. You went to a Jonas Brothers concert. So Rudy's right about the flag part of this. I mean, is this normal? Is this a pattern?

Because, like, selfishness in the way it can show up sometimes. You're just like, what? Like, that's, now, who knows? I mean, he's telling us that they're all friends. And I get what she wanted. She likes you. She wanted you, you know, wiggling around a little bit there in the row, standing up, singing a couple of choruses that you know.

She wanted to do that. And so she wanted like the optimum situation and was totally fine. Apparently with a real friend, like, hey, you're going to be there. You want to be there. Jonas Brothers by yourself. I don't know if there was a second set. I don't know the set list for the Jonas Brothers. brothers, I doubt you guys do either.

I don't know if there was a chance where you could have sold it as, let's just give it a couple songs. And then you see what happens. But I don't want to be critical of you because you were in a brutal spot. And I think Sir Rudy's bigger picture thing of like, is this a pattern or is this kind of a one-off? Like, I don't know. She's used to getting her way. My sense is your girlfriend generally has gotten her way growing up.

And I thought the Jonas brothers were like over. I thought they were like the cheetah girls. I was like, remember that? Yeah, maybe there's like a. reunion or something, but I thought it was like a... No, dude, 98 degrees is still torn, dude. Like, these dudes are the longevity on some of these guys. These guys all, yeah, I think they come back, right, when it's time to get a little cash. But like, I thought it would be a while for the Jonas

brothers did that, but maybe I'm thinking of one direction. One direction is so much better than those guys. All right. Next email. Big fan of the pod. I've been listening since the SBP Day, 6-1, mid-20s. I compare I'm hearing myself to a much shorter in poor man's Hidu Turcala. Lights out shooter when it matters. Hayto's a terrific player. Great distributor.

More than capable handling the ball running offense, but an absolute dud and zero effort guy on defense. Is that where you're scattering in Port Wess, Reed? That was a pretty good defensive team. Magic 2009. You're funneling a lot of stuff, though. Yeah, that's fair. Dwight did cover up a lot of deficiencies.

I'll give them that. I'm at a career crossroads and need the mailbag's judgment. I've been thinking about getting out for my corporate America finance job and have an opportunity to become an AE for a small company in the sports industry. I love sports, a much more people relationship guy than Excel guy. And honestly, I think I could thrive in sales. The catch, the guaranteed base is about $30,000 less than what I was previously making and the rest is commission.

It's a newer company, so there's no established track record for what someone in this exact role will make other than their estimate, of course. I love those. Like, how much am I going to make here? You could make anywhere from five grand to 35 grand a month. Of course, the flip side of commission is that one great year could potentially make more than I'd earn over the next four years climbing the corporate ladder, waiting for the next big promotion, big upside, real downside. I've got a mortgage and a wife to support no kids yet. So this isn't exactly 22-year-old with three roommates. Fuck it. Let's bail territory. But I also wonder, when does being responsible turn into being comfortable.

Yeah, man, right? Am I supposed to take the safe corporate job, collect the guaranteed paycheck, get my 3% raises and slowly climb the ladder, or is this one of those moments where you're actually supposed to bet on yourself? I'm not asking you to make this decision for me. I'm asking, how do you know when a career risk is calculated

versus just stupid? Would love to hear where you guys land on this. It's always kind of tough to ask us because we're not in the normal thing, even though there's times where it applies, but I'm always a big go for it guy. I think the $30,000 number. Now, if you're on a strict budget

and you take out that $30,000 after taxes or whatever, like what are we talking about, is it enough that's going to derail your year financially for a year? You know, that's really what it comes down to. How on board is your wife? It's not like you're writing in saying, hey, this is $100,000 cut. You know, I'm making $200.

I'm going to make $100. And, you know, and then you're going to start, you're going to start looking at car. lease is a little bit closer, you're also going to start looking at vacations, you know, you're not just going to go, hey, put it on the room, you know, it, I, you have those moments. Yeah, I'll do. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not great. Like, to me being rich is you like, two-day FedEx, done. I don't give a shit, 25 extra bucks. I, I always would tell everybody to kind of go, but it really depends, I think, from a budget standpoint, if that first year doesn't

go, well, what is that going to do to you? That's the first thought that I have on it. Yeah, I mean, I think I would have made a great social studies teacher. Just 25 years in, out, don't cross any lines. You're guaranteed employment. I like that type of stuff. Did you go by Kyle? That sounds, no, I don't think so, unless you're in one of those, like, New Age California

schools or everyone's like, you know. Our social studies teacher in high school. Who's the first name? He did not command the room. Oh, Jesus. So you were like needling him. That's tough. No, he just wanted us to call us by the story he wanted.

He was a super nice guy, incredibly nice guy. But, you know, I think he got to the point where you'd be like, hey, can we watch a movie today? 10 minutes in, he'd be like, okay. Jesus Christ. Bush over. But I guess my point is like, I like the idea of like, I'm good here. I'll just get my little raise and I'll, you know, I'm locked in. I can plan on doing stuff because I'm going to plan on having a job that.

that gets incrementally, whatever. So, like, that's where I'd lean towards. Like, if you're already, you know, a few years into that and you're looking at your list of things, you're like, all right, well, only 18 more years of this. Like, I kind of like the security that brings. And then what's an AE? Like, is that assistant executive?

What does that mean? I assume an account executive, right? Account executive, maybe. Okay. That's what I thought it was. I don't know. I don't think it'd be administrative anything. Right.

Yeah. Yeah, I know. It's pretty new, pretty different. I don't know what they're, you know. If the base is less and it seems like you could have a bad year and they'll keep you around because you're not making that much. I don't know. But it's certainly, I don't think I'd have balls to do it.

The other thing. Planning on kids have a house. Everything you guys said, I think, is I don't have any to add on. But is that, like, he's like, I want to work in sports. Like, that's kind of, is that working in, like, you're technically working for, like, a team, but like you're not doing, like, the fun parts of, I feel like the things that would, like, maybe make you like.

It can still be fun, though. If you're doing sales, like, it can still be kind of fun, even though I think the hours are a lot heavier. So that's something you need to find out. Because there's a lot of like salespeople. Remember when I was always around the Celtics nonstop, like they'd be doing the nine to five thing. And they'd be at every game with clients. You know, just it was a real, it wasn't just a job. It was a total commitment to a lifestyle. That's not for everybody. So you need. Yeah, you need to figure that part up, unless you can't stand your family. And you're like, oh, we got the Wizards tonight. Yeah, I mean, that could totally open doors within an organization to even like shift around too. Like there's probably not going to get that chance if you're not in that building. So from a county. My thing whenever you. Yeah, right. Who knows? I mean, there's people that have crossed over though from stuff into the stuff that they really wanted.

And I'm always blown away when that happens. But sometimes it's just like, hey, if this is a good person, we think they're smart and we want them in the room. Like that story can happen too. But what I would say to anybody other than just like the whole, you got to go for it, you got to go for it every single time. Like, that's not real evaluation of anything. But anytime where I've been like, it's time to move on, I had to know that it wasn't like an in-between.

It's almost like something that you feel where you're showing up to the place to you work and be like, okay, I'm done. And whenever I've gotten at that point, like, I think all of us flirt with, well, what would happen here? What would I want to do there? I mean, this is always that tough time of life in your 20s, because it's like, hey, yeah, guess, what, this is what happens to most people.

This is what it's going to be. Too late to be a fireman. I'm not sure. Right. Actually, it's never too late to be a fireman. I'm not sure it is. Yeah, but I don't know if I got to. I've thought about picking up a shift.

Dude, I mean, people love firemen. It's crazy. Yeah, but then, you know, next thing you know, you're a volunteer fireman and then you're on, you're on call there for a little while. And you're helping an old man. A life. I'm not ready. Wipe himself up.

And you just go, oh, I thought it was going to be a ladder with chicks. Yeah. Like, nope. Ed needs cleaning. we have time for one more? Yeah, I think we have time for one more. I know it's close. I think it's a close enough one, quick enough one.

33, 510, 180 pickup comp. Second wolf stint, Ricky Rubio. Shout out Kenneth Gari. Pass first guy who loves to throw a solid bounce pass. I consider myself a decent handyman. I can fix most things around the house myself. Growing up, my dad was adamant about never paying anyone to do a project on the house. well if he was good at stuff

he was much better of these types of things than I am but I can handle most projects this brings me to my current issue I need some new windows in a patio door water leakage and drafts and made this an issue to get addressed sooner than later since I live in the Midwest

and winter is right around the corner I watched a few YouTube videos and learn quickly windows in a patio door maybe above my pay grade and I should pony up the money yeah I mean if the framing is the reason why the door is messed up like it might not just be like

hey, I took the door out. I have a buddy that can help me carry this thing out and then put the next one in. But you might get in there going, okay, all the framing around this is the real issue. Your wife's like, why are we applying for permits? What's going on? So anyway, it's above my pay grade. Should I pony up the money and have a professional handle this? My question is, when I have the pro come in for an estimate, what's protocol? I've had two come over so far. The first guy I just let walk around and measure. the second guy, I followed him around. Yeah. I'm having a third company coming next week.

I think this is probably already happened because his email was a few weeks ago. I want to know the best way to handle this. If someone who's been to a few estimates in their life and grew up in the construction business, please let me know what to do. Love the show. I'll hang up and listen. Well, I did just have our windows redone. And I would definitely recommend not doing that yourself.

It seemed insane. But I mean, if he's measuring like 20-something windows, like you're not following this dude around. to every window, like making sure that his ruler is working correctly. Like, if it's like a door and you're just like, hey, yeah, we want this kind of style, like this is a problem, whatever, blah, blah, blah. Like, sure, hang around. But it's like, you just got to be like, you know, use some self-awareness.

Like, should you, are you lingering in a weird way? Like, no, don't do that. Let him kind of walk around house. The dude to know that he knows a little bit of something about something. And that's, that maybe you can get that out of the way early and then leave him alone. If you need to get a couple terms off. Just throw a couple buzzwords out. Whatever. And then be done, though, you know. About levels. Yeah.

Right, but that's like me telling Steve Nash, be like, I used to play a little bit. You just don't, they're never going to go, oh, no way, really? Tell me about your entire experience. No, that's true. It doesn't work. It doesn't matter. Like, hey, I'm actually pretty handy. You know, like, I think anytime I've ever done anything like that, not even to the

handiness, any of these subjects, you should regret it immediately. Because nobody fucking cares. And if this is a person who's a professional in any professional field, they know all of us are frauds by suggesting like, hey, you know, I actually used to do a little bit of this around the house. Anytime I've had to have an estimate now, like knowing this too, there's a chance the estimate gets a 10%

boost if you're a pain in the ass on the site of the estimate. Okay? That happens because they start going like, what's this guy? He fixed the fucking sink and so now he's going to watch me and he's going to check the tape measure and he's going to say like, they could be leaving your house

factoring in annoyance tax and bump it up 10%. So it sounds like this guy probably already got it done, but I would tell you a hard and fast rule is to leave them alone, completely leave them alone and make it seem. If you want to like present, hey, I'm actually going to be like a great hang. I'm going to get your cold drinks. You can use the bathroom. I'm not going to make you go in the woods, all this kind of stuff. Like, hey, that's fine. But there are, I'm just telling you from some serious first day experience, leaving estimates where my father straight up with leave a job being like, I don't want to work from

this guy. And so I'm going to bid it higher just because I can already tell it's going to be a pain in the ass. And then if you get a yes, you're like, all right, this is great. And he still regrets it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, just a end. Shout out to those old guys like this guy's dad who just commit to being a jack of all trades and, you know, have like an anvil in their house. Like I don't think they're making too many guys like that anymore. But it seems like a lot of old guys like have that in them. Like, you know, they're fixing their, they're fixing their stares. They're fixing their stairs. They're fixing their car. They're, you know, they're doing the roof stuff. They're, you know, they're making concrete out of shit they got in the shed. You know, I think I love those

old guys. So shout out to that. Those are the kind of numbers we need. Not what percentage of 30-year-olds are married and that declining number or the home ownership always bums me out quite a bit for younger people. But we need to know, like, can you do shingling? Like that, if we start put up some. And will you do it anyway? If you can. Yeah. Like, Derek Thompson has. had some can you build your own deck charts from the 60s to now? That thing would be, you think home ownership is bad. That would be off a cliff.

All right, that'll do it for the show today. Thanks to Tom, Kevin. All the guys here in Chicago. What's your name again? Jack! Shout to Jack. Shout to Jack. He told me his name two hours ago.

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