The Scathing Atheist - 638: Livin' on a Prager Edition

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

In this week’s episode, Gen Z thinks this Jesus fella is pretty skibidi Ohio, the new pope takes a long look at the story of Cain and Abel, and we’ll turn to Dennis Prager for some very questionable answers. --- To make a per episode donation at Patreon.com, click here: http://www.patreon.com/ScathingAtheist To buy our book, click here: https://www.amazon.com/Outbreak-Crisis-Religion-Ruined-Pandemic/dp/B08L2HSVS8/ If you see a news story you think we might be interested in, you can send it here: [e-mail] To check out our sister show, The Skepticrat, click here: https://audioboom.com/channel/the-skepticrat To check out our sister show’s hot friend, God Awful Movies, click here: https://audioboom.com/channel/god-awful-movies To check out our half-sister show, Citation Needed, click here: http://citationpod.com/ To check out our sister show’s sister show, D and D minus, click here: https://danddminus.libsyn.com/ Report instances of harassment or abuse connected to this show to the Creator Accountability Network here: https://creatoraccountabilitynetwork.org/ --- Guest Links: Check out the Blackfold podcast here: https://blackfoldpodcast.podbean.com/ --- Headlines: Young, red-pilled men are becoming more religious: https://www.yahoo.com/news/gen-z-men-becoming-more-100000474.html Jehovah’s Witnesses are suing a reporter for "wiretapping"—after inviting him on the call: https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/jehovahs-witnesses-are-suing-a-reporter Utah Senator Mike Lee proposes bill that would ban porn nationwide: https://slate.com/life/2025/05/porn-ban-videos-republican-project-2025.html Appeals court rules that Southwest's lawyers don't have to do "religious freedom" training: https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/appeals-court-southwests-lawyers Pope Leo’s ‘MAGA-Type’ Brother Goes To Confession About His Trolling For Trump: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pope-leo-xiv-brother-online_n_682432c1e4b0993b52bf9d29 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/13/us/louis-prevost-pope-leo-xiv-brother.html --- This Week in Misogyny: Brain-dead Georgia woman turned into flesh incubator by state: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-forced-keep-brain-dead-pregnant-woman-alive-rcna207002 Fertility Clinic in California bombed: https://bnonews.com/index.php/2025/05/bomb-explosion-fertility-clinic-in-palm-springs-california/ Women’s March on June 14th: https://www.womensmarch.com/

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And it's Canadian Immigrants Day. Right? I'm no illusions. I'm Eli Bosnik. I'm Heath Henright. And from Sarah Vaughan's, New Jersey, Ann Arbor, Michigan and Waycross, Georgia This is the Skating Atheist. On this week's episode, Gen Z thinks this Jesus fella's pretty skibbity Ohio. The new Pope takes a long look at the story of Cain and the ape

And we'll turn to Dennis Prager for some very questionable answers. But first, the diatribe. Lucinda and I lost a friend this week. He's a friend that we made through the shows. He came to a couple of our live shows, but then we wound up friends online and then we got to know each other's cats. And once you know each other's pets, you're all the way friends, right? But the whole time I knew him, he had very serious health problems.

So last week he decided that he'd come far enough and he chose to stop treatment. And just a couple hours before we were set to record, I got the news that he had passed. And of course he was an atheist. And that matters at times like this, right? Because the decision to end one's life never sits quite right with me when it comes from a religious person.

And don't get me wrong, I'm a strong supporter of death with dignity. I think every person has an innate right to decide, you know, when it's their time to go, regardless of what they think is going to happen. But when somebody is making that call with the expectation or even just, you know, the vague hope of a paradise on the other side, it's not exactly an informed decision. But Richard walked off stage with his eyes wide open. He knew it was the end.

Now, I don't know the man well enough to eulogize him, but I know that he had a great third act. He found love again late in his life. It was a love, if I recall correctly, that was based on the mutual appreciation of a well-placed semicolon, which is appropriate since semicolons bring clauses together and tell you that something important is coming. And she was a lucky woman because he was one of those people that just always seemed thrilled with every minute that he got to participate in the world. And from what I hear, he kept that up all the way to the end.

He was still making jokes as long as he still had enough breath to carry them. And in that, he was a shining example of how wrong religious people are when they talk about atheists. Right? This is so often we hear Christian Jews atheism like it's the antonym of joy. We're supposed to be these grumpy, miserable, miserly fucks debauched by our lack of moral compasses and contorted with rage by our temporal insignificance. And sure, that might be my Tinder profile, but it definitely isn't true of all atheists.

It definitely wasn't true of Richard. See, that's what they don't understand. In so many ways, religion robs one of meaning in its attempt to impose bullshit meaning. How often are we asked some variation of, if there's no God, then what's the point of existence? The implication, I guess, is that because you'll be forgotten, you're pointless. Because in the grand scheme of things, everyone who knew you will die and everybody who knew them will die.

And even if you manage fame on the level of Shakespeare, your name is eventually going to burn up when the sun stretches out to the earth's orbit. And the only thing that could rescue you from this melancholy void is an eternal afterlife. But purpose doesn't need to be eternal to be valid. We don't measure marathoners against infinite distances. We don't measure billionaires against infinite fortunes. And if we did, their accomplishments would seem pretty goddamn meaningless.

So why would we measure our lives against eternity? Why should we uniquely employ this impossible standard only to the single most important thing that we could measure? Lives are meaningful one moment at a time, so their meaning should be measured in moments. And if you can keep making meaningful moments right up to the end, congratulations, you won. Put your initials in the fucking high scoreboard and don't let anybody try to tell you the lack of afterlife somehow robbed your life of meaning.

Life doesn't need a point. Life is the point. And think for a second about how callous and clouded one's worldview would have to be to miss that. You get to be. You get to have been. You get to be one of the parts of the universe that knows about itself. You get to prevail upon the ceaseless curiosities of the world to learn and to teach and to wonder and to make and to appreciate art, to sing and to hear and to wonder and to make and to appreciate art to sing and to hear songs you get to be a note in a symphony that's been playing for billions of years you get to love and to be loved that may be the greatest lie that religion ever sold us

that something as beautiful as life needs a point told us that something as beautiful as life needs a point. They're talking about you, Jesus. We're gonna wrap this broadcast and bring you a special news bulletin. Joining me for headlines tonight are the Lunan Mayo, Tamai Ciel, Heath Enright, and Eli Bosnik-Felis. Are you ready to expedite? When one falls, we point and laugh.

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can, please go to patreon.com slash scathing atheist and make a per episode donation or increase your pledge, or go to maytreon.com to follow along. And now, please! On with the headlines. Please, please, please, please, please, please, please! In our lead story tonight, it's very likely that you heard something or read something online in the past week about how Gen Z men are becoming more religious. And while true, I feel it's a little overblown in the media, so I want to throw some water on it.

So this buzz isn't coming from a new survey as near as I can tell, but rather from an article in Vox. And what the article is really highlighting is an increase in the gender gap of religiosity in Gen Z. And rather than marveling at the increasing rates that Gen Z women are leaving the church, the framing that most media has chosen to go with is about the decreasing rates

that Gen Z men are leaving the church. So to be clear, they're still leaving. They're just not leaving as quickly as the generations before them. And that's what passes for a fucking revival in Christianity these days. Well, good luck with that. Lots of untapped tithing from incels in their mom's basement who can't chip in for Capri sons and Lunchables that the solid growth sector for the church. I mean, to be fair, the church has been promising to fight for the rights of young, able-bodied white men

for ever. I mean, their messaging is very targeted. Yeah, so, okay, so first of all, quick thanks to Vincent for sending this one to scathingnews.gmail.com. Vincent, see Eli about your possum nipples or whatever. But to understand this story, we need to back up a little bit and talk about this much ballyhooed reversal in the religiosity trend. Because yes, the rate at which religiosity is decreasing in America has slowed considerably, but it's

still decreasing. And you don't need to invent a victory for Christianity in order to explain it, right? So as American culture has shifted away from Christian as default right as an expectation Atheism scooped up all the low-hanging fruit Eventually you run out of low-hanging fruit that explains literally everything in the demographic shifts Right, but so many Christian people heard Decrease in acceleration and they were like the atheists are coming back to us. We yeah, we're yes Yeah, because what comes right after not losing as much Winning, that's right

Zero is a Muslim Calculus awesome Now that being said there is a disturbing resurgence of religiosity among Gen Z men, particularly the younger end of that generation, but it's not a resurgence of just religion in general. Gen Z men aren't flackin' to fuckin' Unitarianism in the Anglican Church. They're moving towards the heavy homophobia churches and the heavy misogyny churches, which admittedly are most of the fuckin' churches, but those are the ones that are seeing the resurgence.

Red-pilled young men are sold to patriarchy, they're lured in with talk about male loneliness epidemics and reverse racism, and they're staying for the eternal salvation and the gay hate. And to be clear, we're not talking about most Gen Z men, but we're talking about a significant enough number to start popping out of the demographic data at us. I love how much they're misunderstanding it though. Like, what do we want? An inflection point from concave up to concave down,

but it's still going up. When do we want it? I like Andrew Tate. Yeah, like it's stupid, but still scary for sure. Well, right. Yeah, exactly. Enough to swing a close election, right? Now it's worth noting here though

that the development is concerning, but it's not surprising. It is part of the inevitable backlash to Me Too. Every major surge of feminism in all of American history was followed a few years later by a religious revival aimed at men and emphasizing the good old days of barefoot pregnantness or whatever, right? But what's truly unprecedented is the data on women that this concern for religious men is obscuring because Gen Z women are leaving organized religion at a rate we've never seen before. They're steadily becoming more liberal, more secular, more accepting

of LGBTQ people, more pluralistic and more feminist. In fact, we've actually reached a point where with the youngest cohort of Gen Z, men attend church more than women. That's something that we've never seen before. And it's not even clear if the current model of Christianity is even sustainable with that shift. Christianity has always relied on women calling men back to the church after marriage. No idea how they plan to perpetuate the fucking sausage fest that they're building now. And in witness me news, be it Scientology or the Catholic Church, there's almost no clearer sign that the bad guys are getting caught than when they start suing everybody. Seize and Desist is basically the theocratic version of, and I would have gotten away with

it too if it weren't for you meddling kids. So it comes as no surprise this week that the Jehovah's Witnesses are suing a reporter and whistleblower for wiretapping them because he attended a Zoom call that they accidentally invited him to. Just Jeffrey Goldberg hanging out in the newsroom weeping with laughter. Guys, you're not going to believe what just fucking happened. So first off, big thanks to window mirror goon for sending us this story to scathingnews at gmail.com.

If you send us atheist news to scathingnews at gmail.com, we promise not to think too hard about the terrifying implications of your screen name. No matter how deeply they haunt us. Window mirror goon. Okay. I'm not getting haunted. I'm picturing like a hockey goon golden retriever seeing himself in a mirror and dropping the gloves.

Oh, the reflection. Interesting. I liked that he had gloves on. So I'm picturing possum nipple pizza. Eli said it once and now every time I hear scathing news at GMO.com that's in my head. So sure. Right. So here's the story. Back in 2020, the Pennsylvania Attorney General's office opened a grand jury investigation into JW congregations across the state because A, there was good reason to believe that

JW leaders were committing crimes against children covering them up and B, the JWs kept internal records about people accused of sexual abuse, but refused to share that list publicly. Oh, wow. And 16 people have since been charged in these investigations, thanks in large part to former Jehovah's Witness Mark O'Donnell, who had been sounding the alarm from within the organization for years. Now, naturally, the JWs were deeply concerned for their legal standing when this was announced, so they arranged a private call with their lawyers.

A call to which they accidentally invited Mark. Who invited him? How? Not clear. But they sent him the invite, he attended the meeting, he reported on what he heard, and now the Jehovah's Witnesses are suing him for wiretapping, citing quote, invasion of privacy and reputational harm caused by other people knowing the things they said.

We're also suing for libel, by the way. I'm not a cat. That guy's a liar. So I want to judge to throw this case out based on the fact that the reputation of Jehovah's Witnesses is already as low as it can be. Yeah. Right? There's no, you can't harm this. You can't get any lower. You can't dig on this ground. You can't murder a dead man. And look, the JWs know they have no shot in this case, but as Mark revealed this week,

their intention was never to win a wiretapping lawsuit against a guy they invited to a Zoom call. It was to expose his sources within the church, many of whom, I will remind you, are goddamn sexual abuse victims and some of them are children. According to Mark, quote, in the litigation, the JWs have demanded that I name every Jehovah's Witness I have communicated with in the last five years regarding the faith of the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Obviously, that would reveal my journalistic sources, and I will not do so, end quote. Well, good for him. And look, I know it's hard to find silver linings about child abuse cover-up stories, but quote. Well, good for him. And look, I know it's hard to find silver linings about child abuse coverup stories, but at some point, a guy who testified on the J-dub's defense is gonna talk about it in church.

And that's technically gonna be the witness's witness witnessing, which is fun, right? Like just grammatically. It's fun, yeah, so buffalo, buffalo, buffalo situation. Yeah. So yeah, let this be a reminder that the Jehovah's Witnesses are not Just the little old ladies who knock on your door or the overheated teenagers by the magazine rack

They are a cult a litigious one and the more evil stuff, you know about them the more litigious they get so head on a swivel everybody now that you've heard this story and In stroke them if you got them news. Hell yeah. Republicans are trying to take away the porn. That's happening. Shut the fuck up about the Qatari bribe jets and the Salvadoran gulags. Nobody cares.

We're talking about this now. A new bill sponsored by Senator Mike Lee of Utah, Representative Mary Miller of Illinois, and the death of joy would effectively ban all pornography nationwide. Not to underplay how horrific this bill is, but I think these folks don't understand the sheer volume of things I'm capable of jacking it to. Right? I did my pubescing pre-internet. I jerked off the women's names in the credits, guys.

Exactly. thank you. So the bill is called the Interstate Obscenity Definition Act or IODA and it would officially define obscene material at the federal level. Here's the strategy behind that. We're a country founded by creepy dudes in chastity coats with lots of buckles and ruffle accents So the first amendment of the Constitution doesn't protect anything that's considered obscene with that in mind the Creepy dudes in chastity coats with buckles and ruffles who wrote project 2025 made this exact plan for legislation And now these Republicans are trying it the new law would make it possible to prosecute anyone who possesses or sends obscene material.

An obscene would be defined by three components. One, it appeals to the prurient interest in nudity, sex, or excretion. Two, it depicts, describes, or represents actual or simulated sexual acts with the objective intent to arouse, titillate, or gratify the sexual desires of a person. 3. It lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. Okay, not only do those definitions already exist in better forms, all they very clearly added was shit porn. Right. Yeah. And look, the end result of this, if they got away with it, would be the same porn, but there would be like a fucking math problem

on a blackboard in the background, right? This is education. Yeah. And I'm so curious how Mike Lee and these other sponsors think we'd police this thing. Especially the appealing to prurient interest part. Like, I'm picturing a cop smashing down my door while I'm watching porn and then I just like immediately start acting disinterested. Like, you got on with what I was doing. Oh, huh. Big snip. Talking about my lack of prurient interest in this, but I will reluctantly finish lock eyes with me.

Like it seems like it would be fun to deal with that. Right. Or, or, or we could just solve all of this by, will it go with a very erudite podcast about the mise en scene of different porn videos on fucking Pornhub or whatever? So here's the good news. The bill is very unlikely to pass. Similar bills were attempted in 2022 and 2024, and they failed. That being said, the fact that it's even conceivable to try this indicates a problem.

The country is swinging toward theocracy more and more, and at the same time, a big block of ridiculous dude bros is having a huffy anti-feminist backlash, and angry incel content creators are getting absurdly large followings. Andrew Tate, one obvious example. Another is a popular Twitch streamer called Asmongold who likes to talk about hoflation. That's the idea that women are allowed to make money now and because of all their only fans riches, which Asmongold thinks is the only way they make money, the economic cost of owning a woman has gone way up. It's inflation. That's a real thing they're

whining about. Guys just do fun when they're exploiting themselves. Yeah. Women would rather do sex work than be financially dependent on me does not say as much about women as some men seem to think it does. So yeah, IOTA is probably going to fail, but I was thinking about what it would look like if they pass it and I kind of like where things might go, artistically speaking. We might get a new evolution of the art form with a strong focus on literary, political, and scientific merit. And that sounds amazing.

Like Shakespearean sonnet porn and Lincoln Douglas porn, fucking a beaker, lots of my vision board, finally getting representation. Also if the bill did pass, every Democrat could just run on a platform of come and nothing else in the upcoming elections. So I think I'm actually rooting for the bill now. All right. Well, since we never seem more important than we do when we're defending poor, and I guess this would be a great time to pause and tell you a little bit more about matriot.

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This week in Misogyny. Misogyny. Misogyny. Y'all, my I told you so's are never any fun. So I'm sure you've already heard about the latest holy shit, not even Margaret Atwood thought of that shit situation brewing in my home state of Georgia. But in case you haven't,

the state has turned a brain dead woman into a flesh incubator for the sake of a nine week old fetus. This is a story of April Newkirk, a 30-year-old Georgia woman who went to the hospital in February for severe headaches. But showing nowhere near as much compassion for her as they later show for her unborn fetus,

the hospital didn't run any scans or tests. They just gave her some medicine and sent her home. The next day, she was found gargling and gasping for air. Turns out she had multiple blood clots in her brain. By the time they could get her back to the hospital she was already brain dead. Now to be clear brain dead is dead. It's go ahead and harvest the organs levels of dead. But Georgia's medieval abortion laws make no provisions for that and Newkirk was nine weeks pregnant when this happened. And look, I want you to pause for a second and consider just how pregnant nine weeks isn't. We're just barely out of the embryo stage here. It's the size of a fucking fingernail,

but it has a heartbeat or what passes for one according to these bullshit laws. So medical personnel have no choice but to keep her alive with machines until the fetus is viable, which is 34 weeks. So her family has to prolong their grief by months and then presumably raise the kid the state burdened them with. And look, the obvious victim here is Newkirk's family. Her mother is furious about the lack of choice. And when this motherless child is forced into the world,

he'll be the victim too. But you also have to consider the scale of this kind of shit. How much life-saving medical equipment and finite attention of medical personnel are we going to devote to this case and cases like it? I mean, if I was a doctor or a nurse and the state consigned me to participating in this inhumane torture, I'd be tempted to find another job. How much medical personnel are we going to sacrifice on the altar of forced birth before we right this fucking ship?

And another ancillary issue we should never forget about is the danger that occurs when we empower the misogynist. After all, I have a sneaking suspicion that this fetuses or humans lie is also behind the recent bombing of a fertility clinic in California. Now at the time of this writing, they're not officially offering up a motivation, but when a car explodes in the parking lot of American reproductive centers,

you can take a pretty good guess. Either it was a Christian terrorist trying to save unborn clusters of cells, or else it was a Tesla. But I'm not only bringing you bad news this week. See, as you may know, dear leader is going to be celebrating his birthday with a fascist military parade through the streets of DC on June 14th. And officially it's because that's the army's 250th birthday, but it's also Trump's birthday

and that's absolutely why they're doing it. But that's also why the Women's March chose that date to revive their efforts and possibly ding the shit out of Trump's precious news cycle. It would be pretty awesome if every story about his parade ended with a reminder that way more people showed up to march against him. So be sure to check out womensmarch.com to see where the closest march is to you, or just check the show notes. So with that, and a quick thanks to Peter and Zachary for sending a couple of these

stories to me at scathingnews.gmail.com. I'll wrap things up and hand you back over to Noah, Heath, and Eli. Thank you, Lucinda. And in freedom isn't free news. One of the things that's hard to convey in the moment of a terrifying news cycle is that crazy religious rulings rarely last. Now, I want to be clear, the harm done, the money wasted, all of that is very real. But almost always when you read a headline like, Trump appointed judge, sentences Jews to be Christian,

that ruling goes away on appeal. Long after the damage it was meant to do has already been done and forgotten. And I'm not saying we shouldn't be panicking, by all means, continue to panic, but sometimes it's helpful to remind ourselves that the shit storms do past. And we got a reminder of that this week when an appeals court ruled that no

Southwest airlines is lawyers do not have to go through a right wing religious freedom training for firing a bigot. We're not doing a government imposed bigotry equity and inclusion training. No. Oh, Hey, can we use that time to send them to a class on how to book a fucking flight? No they refuse. Okay. So regular listeners might remember this story from way back in August of 2023 when optimistic rubes like myself were looking forward to a Kamala Harris presidency and our biggest worry was that Maui was on fire.

The case itself goes all the way back to 2017, when Charlene Carter, a batshit anti-choice flight attendant, was justifiably fired by Southwest for harassing her union rep via email because the rep attended the women's march and then for accusing the union president of murder for supporting abortion rights. So yeah, she got fired, she filed a grievance with her union, she lost that grievance because of course, then she sued Southwest and her union and won because the jury system of just regular folks figuring out this law stuff is fucking idiotic. Okay, juror number eight just hit himself in the eye with a boiled peanut.

I feel like he's not a peer. Objection, objection, your honor, of this lady thing. Sustained. I was appointed by a president 40 years ago. She's also holding a bag of boiled peanuts. Yeah, exactly. It's a very small one from Southwest. Yeah, so the jury gave her her job back and awarded her $5 million, later reduced to just $800,000.

Yeah, it's Southwest again. And they ruled that Southwest had to issue a statement to their flight attendants, affirming that they would not violate Title VII rights to religious freedom. And this is where things get wacky. Southwest did as they were instructed and released a statement saying, we don't discriminate based on religion, but that wasn't good enough. U.S. District Judge Brantley Starr ruled that they were supposed to say that they may not discriminate, star ruled that they were supposed to say that they may not discriminate, not don't. And their statement didn't mention Title VII by name.

Come on. He wrote, quote, it's hard to see how Southwest could have violated the notice requirement more. Oh, call me. I know how they could have violated it more. I have so many ideas. Here's his example. Real quote.

I'm quoting from his decision. After God told Adam, you must not eat from the tree in the middle of the garden. Imagine Adam telling God, I do not eat from the tree while an apple core rests at his feet or where Gandalf bellows, you shall not pass the Balrog muses. I do not pass while strolling past Gandalf on the bridge of Gazad-d'Om. Yes, that is a real quote from a real federal judge in his decision. Okay, and that federal judge is about to sentence the Balrog to bridge sensitivity training with HR?

Yeah, it's as weird as those examples are, neither even makes your fucking point or any point that I can discern. Yeah. So, Star holds Southwest in contempt, writes his own version of the memo for them to send out and, citing a quote, chronic failure to uphold federal protections for religious freedom, ordered that three of Southwest's lawyers undergo religious freedom training. And who did he suggest provide that training? Why, the Alliance Defending Freedom, of course, a registered hate group with a history of

arguing that gay people should be criminalized and that women shouldn't have jobs unless it's birthing. Also, I sentenced the company to die and then come back whiter like Gandalf in that thing. Well making things come back whiter is the ADF specialty. So you don't I know it. Yeah. So that decision of course got appealed. An appeal that drew briefs from the Freedom From Religion Foundation, and I love this, the ADF itself, who just made sure to note that they were like, wide open on Thursdays.

But finally, this week, two conservative federal judges ruled that no, you don't get to send lawyers to religious freedom re-education school no matter how many board games you have lost to Heath. So yeah. I would never play a board game with those people. Hundreds of thousands of dollars later, the almost kind of sort of right thing has happened. So tune in for 2026 when Americans start getting their rights back retroactively, everybody. I think that's been pushed back to 2029.

Yeah. Minimum. Yeah. And finally tonight in Big Brother is Botching News. When Pope Francis took over in 2013, we didn't hear much of anything about his four siblings. Frankie was from Argentina. So I was just picturing like four beautiful smiley people wearing little messy jerseys, teaching surf lessons in a very calm voice.

Okay, obviously that's not everyone from Argentina, but my stereotyping American brain at least conjured something positive. But when Bob from Chicago became the new pope, and I heard he has a brother, I had a much different reaction. More like, fucking yikes, here we go. And that was about the right reaction. Yes, it was. Pope Bobby Southside has an older brother named Louie. And Louie is a 73-year-old Florida man who enjoys line dancing on honky-tonk Thursdays

and posting slurs on social media. Yeah, and I bet I know which ones Catholics are more upset about too. Yeah, right, right. The only thing that distinguishes them from the previous pope on the slur front is his acumen with social media, I think. Well, apparently the conclave doesn't do much

in the way of vetting family members ahead of time, so we got to watch the Catholic Church's PR team in a panic for the last two weeks trying to deal with Florida man Louie. It started with Louie's social media posts. Some guy at the Vatican had to go on Louie's Facebook and immediately see Nancy Pelosi is a drunk C word exact quote. Oh god. And that was right next to the claim that Nancy's husband Paul was in a secret relationship with an extremely violent male sex worker who then attacked Paul with a hammer. That conspiracy theory. Oh wow. And of course some posts about just general homophobia and transphobia. So

it was a tricky moment for the Vatican. Lots of good points that agree with their Catholic philosophy from Louis. But Louis wasn't great for the Vatican lots of good points that agree with their Catholic philosophy from Louie But Louie wasn't great with the phrasing of the bigotry and that's an important core tenant of the church You're supposed to say an Italian Louie God So what's the PR plan after too many offensive comments you do an interview with Piers Morgan Personality for signaling progressive values. During the interview, Louis said, I'm a MAGA type and I have my beliefs,

but I don't need to create heat for my brother. And he added that he's gone quiet online and that he's biting his tongue. Now, I'd love it if Louie would maybe learn something, but honestly, learn absolutely nothing, but also shut the fuck up is so much better than we get from most people who need to learn something. The only positive thing I've read about Louie is that he does the wordle with his brother every day. The Pope is doing the wordle every day and I like that.

Yeah, it's all very sweet until manga is the word again then all of a sudden he's throwing out excommunications for ruining his street. The only point I have in a Pope is excommunicating whatever asshole world editor chose manga. I thought we were gonna lose Noah everybody. I thought we were gonna lose him. So later in that interview Piers Morgan asked Louis if the Vatican had called him to talk about social media strategy. And Louis said, no one has contacted me yet, but I'm pretty sure he's lying.

Or maybe we got some contact after that comment because all those posts are gone now. Somebody got Louis to delete pretty much everything he's ever said on the Internet. And I'm guessing that involved some old Italian bishop and a 73 year old Florida man just smashing computers and phones and fucking VCRs with a baseball bat and yelling at each other. And then finally getting the Vatican's like one IT guy under 50 years old to walk him through it. And thanks for doing this Chris. Hey when you die, do you want us to put you in a box and cut out your heart? No, okay, I was just asking. We ask, we ask. And while I lament the fact that I didn't think of a way of working Pope

Leotard into the story that doesn't sound like a slur against the mentally handicapped. We're going to close the headlines for the night. Heath, Eli, thanks as always. He's too mongey. And when we come back, we'll beat Dennis Prager's kids in the total number of times we've checked in on him this year contest. Hey podcast listener. Sorry, just popping in again because we didn't have any ads this week. And while we were on break, I learned about pay pigs on TikTok. Yeah, it's true. We did. And look, this seems like a scam or something wildly exploitive and problematic. But if

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One thing I have to hand it to Christians for is their ability to squeeze feature length stupidity into short form video, which is why we're here to present yet another God awful mini. So tell us Heath, what will we be breaking down today? We watched two different videos from Prager University. Yeah. Oh, like tasting menu. Almost there on yet in my degree asterisk. Masters of Race is what we're

going to talk about. The first of those videos is called The Two Ways to React When Evil is Done by a quote religious person. It's the story of how the world would be too boring without pedophiles. It is though. That's the argument that he makes in the video. And the second one is called a message to the Christian left. It's the story of how black people don't like Dennis Prager and he wants a law to fix that. Yes.

Again, seriously, that's the argument. We watched the first video and I'm like, well, the second video can't possibly be better than that. And it starts off with him going like, here's what I got to say to the blacks. And I'm like, Oh, Dennis. Yep. That's where he started. That is where he starts.

And Eli, how bad were these minis? Well, if you love the religious apologetics of the Christian right, but you wish it had all the delicacy and sensitivity of your grandma being escorted out of bingo by church security, you will love this movie. It's not so much the horrifying things that Dennis Prager is saying, so much as he is saying them in the voice of an allergist telling you Claritin doesn't work. Right, right.

All right. So is there anything you guys want to nominate this one for being the best at being the worst at? Yeah, I'm going to go with best worst. I honestly can't tell if these are real videos. Like I know Dennis Prager, so I know they're real. But like, if we made deep fakes of Dennis Prager as a joke, this is exactly what we'd have him say as a joke.

Yeah. And I was going to go with best worst anger. So at one point, Dennis has to calm himself down, right? As he gets very emotional. But he's completely devoid of emotion throughout. He's just dead. He's ordering a fucking Sub-sandwich throughout. We've all seen Jews be angrier about how many pickles were brought to the table Dennis Prager will claim he is about child rape. Yep, and I'm gonna go with best worst. Trust me Someone behind the camera agrees with me

best worst. Trust me, someone behind the camera agrees with me. We'll talk about it when we get to it. Oh, I love Megan. Megan was great. Oh, Megan. All right. So we're going to open up with a video that's called the two ways to react when evil is done by a religious person. And we should point out that the word religious is in quotes in the title.

So, so even the title is trying to sneak in a no true Scotsman phallus, right? Exactly. But he's answering a question that one of his viewers sent to him. Yeah, so what they do for these videos is they have these like long live streams that are called fireside chats

where Dennis Prager just fucking vamps and Then they break them into little videos so that we have C segments for our podcast Yeah, and this then that's what we're watching. We're watching we couldn't handle the whole Fireside chat, but yeah, so but he's answering the question How can we help heal the wounds of people hurt by bad or unhappy? religious people. But yeah, but this, the person asking the question, they have a friend who is an atheist because a member of his mother's church molested him. Yeah, we watch Dennis pray.

He keeps digging himself these huge holes. He's reading this thing off his iPad and the person who wrote a letter or an email to him, whatever, and it says, my friend is an atheist because a you know a loving God wouldn't let him get sexually assaulted as a child and then Dennis Prager's just like fuck that's tough one I'm against sexual assault I'm all the way I do here yeah this is where he has to calm himself down. He's like, he's like, oh, I just I really I have to I need to take a minute. I really hate I have to contain my rage against child molesters.

I'm like, or what Dennis bring you sloppy piece of fucking shit. You're going to go all taken on the child molesters. You know, that day. I would love that. If you don't contain yourself. Dennis, I will single-handedly fund your Liam Neeson turn into I'm an Action Movie Star now. I feel like Liam Neeson has some lectures at Dennis Prager's university too. Yeah, but despite, like this email goes on for so long going like, now despite my friend's atheism he is a good person. He's very bright, courageous.

Polite. Polite to others. This is a weird list. It's such a telling thing about Christian values though, right? Because they have to be like, no, no, no. I know when I say atheist, you're picturing just faced down in a baby torso, just eating all the flesh they can get his teeth on.

Yes, and cowardly and stupid. He says, please and thank you. But he's happy when he does, he does that politely with the torso. Well, okay, but then it ends, the end of the email says, even if I can't bring my friend to God, I want him to be happy.

Okay, like if you had to add that first part, you're terrible. Right. You just want him to be happy. OK, like if you had to add that first part, you're terrible. Right. You can you just want people to be happy. Like I want my friend to be happy. It doesn't have extra hurdles in atheism. Right. But apparently it does for Dennis Prager. And we should point out that all the way through this, like he's being constantly edited, right? Like he'll be he'll be like mid-sentence and they'll just edit it Which is a fairly common thing that you know people do on YouTube when they're doing long

Monologues, but he cannot get through six fucking words without an edit through any of these videos at this point He finishes the question. He goes well. I I I have a Have a an emotion based in so that is lit I transcribed that into our notes My closed captioning just said foghorn leghorn This was the best he could manage with an edit But yeah, he says he has an emotion based answer and a reason based answer. He doesn't know what he actually means Is your being too emotional about your molestation.

He sure I have a rational way for you to look at that. Yep. He says at this point, he says, you know, the fact that the molesters seemed to be religious was irrelevant and I might seem to be really a hip violation to even mention that. Sure. Remember, and pedophile and he says, look, look, I get it that you were molested by a so-called religious person, but we don't hold things against a whole group of people. And I was like, are you sure Dennis Breger?

Because I watched ahead and I've seen the second video, Dennis Breger. So yeah, but that's a strong start, right? He's like, okay, so first of all, I think this child rape victim is being very irrational. Very judgey. Jesus Christ, man. He goes, look, if you wanted a fucking world without the occasional child rape, maybe you should have thought of that before you were descended from Eve. Hmm? So, and then he gives, he gives this bizarre fucking example. He goes, okay, look, if there was a machine that made you happy by

manipulating your nerves all the time, you wouldn't live in that machine, would you? And yes, why would you not? My dude, my dude, my phone is a machine that makes me unhappy and I live in it all the time. Were you fucking talking about that? Was such an upgrade. What's great is I feel like he read the first half of the utilitarian pleasure monster argument.

Yeah. Yeah. Pleasure monster sounds great. I want to be one of those. But he has to have stopped mid sentence. Like he can't have made it all the way through the sentence. You wouldn't want to have pleasure all the time, would you? Why would you not want that, Dennis?

What the fuck is wrong with you? I get it. I get it. Yeah. Machine that makes you happy, bad. I don't need to read the predicate. Yeah. He also makes the argument that we need to have

Pedophiles around yes, because otherwise, you know, we need the free will otherwise we'd be robots God could totally stop all of the pedophiles But then we'd be robots and I was like and you would find that boring and that's the is that seriously your argument? I feel like robots is better than rapists, right? Yes! Also, no. We'd be people who don't do rape. Not robots.

We would just not do that and we would choose among other options besides that one. It's amazing that they seem to think that once you take child rape off the decision tree wall, there's really no decision tree left, right? Yeah. Like God's being like, if I stop all the crimes, that would remove free will. I need somebody to yell from the background. Hey, what if you just stop the child? Just the one thing, just the child.

Just get rid of that one. Well, also, like, I don't have the free will to eat the sun. Yeah. Right. Like there are obviously there are things that we can and can't do. So, like, yeah, I don't have the free will to lick my elbow. I don't feel like a robot. Yeah. But so he, he bumbles his way through that. But then he, he explains that like, if you really want to answer this question,

it all depends on how rational your atheist friend can be about their molestation. Right? So then he like does away with the very idea of atheism, right? He's like, he's like, I mean, come on, does your friend really believe that the universe created itself? That's not a rational view. Ron Howard. It did though. It did. Yeah, exactly. No. And he makes an accidentally good argument right next to his worst argument. Immediately.

It's great. So he traps himself in a corner. He goes, look, I Would rather your friend be happy than your friend believe in God and then he realizes he says that and that's not his brand So he goes But what about revenge? Well, yeah, okay. So yeah, right. It would be quantifiably untrue To say that if hell was a thing, right? He says, it's more important that your friend is happy than that they believe in God. That would not be true if hell exists or if you remotely believe that hell exists, right?

But then he's like, no, no, no, but he would be happier if he did believe in God. And I'm like, oh, really? He'd be happier knowing that there was an all powerful being that could have stopped his rape, but didn't because of a vague notion of free will. Take me there, Dennis. Yeah, that makes sense for that victim to be thinking something along those lines. Wouldn't want people to be all boring and consensual. So I took one for the team. That's your serious argument. Yeah, I took one for the team.

Yeah. Yeah. Right. But yes. But then he goes, he gets to his final argument, his revenge argument right where he goes like, well, hey, if you believe in God, you get to imagine this guy burning in hell forever that molested you, huh? That's psychologically healthy, right? For you to do. And then, because he realizes what a terrible argument it is, he looks off camera and goes, Megan nodded. This guy gets it. Megan, He's literally this guy gets hitting the one person who's in the room that he's paid to be there. Megan off camera agrees with you wouldn't know Megan. She's there though. She's from Canada. Yeah. Where the brothers at? So that's the next

video. Here's the thing though. If you believe in Christianity, then the molester guy, he just told his brain that he was sorry later and got into heaven anyway. Yeah. Right? So in fact, if your bullshit is true and your atheist guy finds God, he's going to probably run into his molester in heaven eventually. And that's going to be super fucking awkward. Or he doesn't believe in God, then he ends up burning in hell. Wow. The molester in heaven eventually and that's gonna be super fucking awkward or he doesn't believe in God that he ends up burning in hell while the

molester goes to heaven also Dennis Prager doesn't believe in afterlife punishment because he's fucking Jewish yeah he claims only God could punish the terrible rapist but we could do it right now. Also, sure. If only there wasn't a church covering it up. So okay, so that's video number one, but somehow it gets even worse because video two is called a message to the Christian left. But that's only because somebody managed to talk him out of his original title idea, which

was a message to the blacks. Gentlemen, may I quote? Please. I wish there were leaders in America today saying to black America, you cannot hate a white that is opening fucking line. Okay. So cook, cook. He's got this.

So, okay. So quick peek behind the scenes scenes the first video that we chose was about the Fed We thought that would be a really fun one about like a bunch of conspiracy theory bullshit But it was just explaining how the Fed worked. It was no good. And I called the late audible I was four minutes into it. I'm like guys. This isn't gonna work. This isn't funny and Eli sent me another video He's like will this one work and it was this second video that he sent me first I am nine seconds in and I'm like, yup. This one will do it. That'll do pig.

That'll do. So yeah. But he explains to us that there's a law in the Bible that says in Deuteronomy that says do not hate an Egyptian. Right? that says do not hate an Egyptian. Right. So even though the Egyptians enslaved the Jews, they're not allowed to hate them, much like the whites enslaved the black. Right. And we all know historically that Jewish people have never hated an Egyptian person.

No, no. So we should try to do the same thing here in the United States. hated an Egyptian person. No, no. Try to do the same thing here in the United States. And hey, hey, Dennis, does it feel good to be the Egyptians in your metaphor? Yeah, right. So yeah, but then he explains that the only reason that other people aren't agreeing with him publicly is because they're a bunch of fucking cowards.

They're afraid. Yeah. Yeah. He says, and I quote, there is no other explanation. I'm like, well, maybe you're a bigot, Dennis. I've got one. It's so funny because he's like, you know, there's all this hate against whites from the black people and also resentment and anger and gel.

It's a lot of negative emotions. And I was like, oh, okay. So they don't get to have any negative emotions towards white people. It's not just, Hey, they just, they don't get to feel like sorrow. Right. Right. They're just bringing up old shit. It's been so long since slavery.

He actually says literally where he goes. He goes, it's been 160 years. Get over it. The blacks. Yes. His, his actual quote is, so the thing he said about the Bible, he was was like this was one generation later and they had a law that was don't kill and he goes guys It's been 160 years after slavery. It's not one generation that I wrote in my notes It's six

Yeah, wow, unless you don't count from the beginning of slavery or if you count Jim Crowe in which case It's none. Right! Well, he realizes that he skipped that. He's like, oh, fuck, well, there's also Jim Crow and, like, a bunch of racism ever since, so I guess they're bringing up new shit too. Hold on. Stop bringing up old and new shit.

White people died in the Civil War. And then he's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I found it. I found it. We've been so cool to the black people since World War II. So cool. Yes.

Yeah. He's like, since the civil rights era, he literally says, since the civil rights era, there's really no excuse for all this resentment. There's no one in his life that's willing to tell him no, that he can't put that video out into the world. Just finish spraying someone with a hose and then you help him up and you're like, we're good, right? Like, this is, this is, you're okay. Okay, that was going so fucking badly

and then he made it worse. He made all of those arguments and then he's like, hold on, I got another one. I got another one. The Civil War ended slavery and so many white people died during that war. That was an actual point he made. Yeah. Yep. An actual point he made. Well, if you think about it, a lot of white people died to end slavery too. Yeah. And I'm like, but they're not the ones that started the war, right? Like it was the fight was the white people fighting for slavery that started the war. The other white people were just finishing a war. Some racists started.

And now that I think about it, Jewish people are afraid to talk about this, but 8 million Germans died while the Holocaust was getting ended by that war You're welcome Wow They're afraid to face it Heath. They're afraid to face. Yep. Yep. Their numbers only like seven allegedly, but then But then he tells the the blacks that God is pretty serious about this reverse racism stuff. So you might want to go back off all of that white hate that y'all are known for. And then he fucking sundowns. It's us to the though.

Okay. Gentlemen, this is like 1% off what he does. Nobody hates white people like white people. They live on hatred and now China classes courses. Yeah. Okay. Business school. Right.

Yes. Yes. Yes. He's like, yeah, you know, I think you shouldn't lump people in all this one group because that's what the Chinese did. Okay. He actually says that he says Wocusts are obsessed with all these I think exact words Chinese revolution like classes

Yes, and like the hated classes during the Cultural Revolution in China were literally all black classes Those were like the cap the rich people but still like you need to know that detail Dennis before you say that. Yeah. He also says, well, we're the biggest, you know, us, the wokeists were the biggest fomenters of hating white people is the white wokeists. And I was like, we're, we're the biggest fomenters of hating you, Dennis. It's like a little different. Right. Well, I, and I'm like watching him going like, yeah, man, you're making a lot of people hate white people right now. So I guess in that sense, maybe. Yeah. And then he tells us, he's like, and you know, if you're white and you deny, you're a racist, you're even a bigger racist. Okay. So Dennis clearly had to do one single HR thing for like two minutes and immediately

he got in there and he yelled, I'm not a racist right away. This video is what he learned from that experience. Yes, he was told about subconscious racism in like 2001 and he still hasn't gotten over it. Yes, through a telephone game he played with Matt Walsh. Right. Well, and also he goes, he goes, you know, you're racist just for being a white. And I'm like, dude, you just use the term a white.

OK, like that's a pretty big red flag that maybe you're a racist. And then I love this so much. He says, look, that lie, which is the lie of racism existing, is as bad for black people as it is for white people and we're supposed to be like, oh, that's really bad. That's seriously that's the argument. Like hating a white guy is actually racist against black people.

If you think about it, because because you can't be happy. Black people are the real white supremacists. If you think about it. Yes, that's what he says. That's the end of this video. Yeah. No, sorry, Heath, I hate to argue with you, but the actual end of this video is you can't be a happy or healthy person if you feel like you're a victim and you're filled with hate.

I'm Dennis Pritchard. Yes, yes. Oh, all right. Well, much like Dennis's family, we've got nothing more to say to him, so we're going to wrap things up there and start digging around for the next... God Awful Mini. I'm not a racist. Before we close our pedals back up for the night, I want to thank everybody who's already

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