The Science of Flipping - Tax Strategy and Enitites
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Yo, yo, welcome back to the Science of Flipping podcast.
I'm your host, Justin Colby, and today we are going to talk about everyone's favorite subject, taxes. More importantly, we're going to
talk about how you actually keep more of the money you make than actually give it to the government.
Uncle Sam loved taking your money. They built it just to take your money. However, what they have
also done, if you are smart enough,
is they've actually created rules and created guidelines that people who have good accountants and good financial advice and tax strategy, actually, they give you loopholes so you don't
have to pay taxes. So today, I want this episode to talk about that, keeping more of the money you make. Now, let's start with one simple subject,
tax strategy. Now, for you listening to this podcast, you're likely a real estate investor or
are trying to get into the space of real estate investing. So I applaud you. I love it. Now,
you need to make sure you are talking to someone about your actual tax strategy. Now, I use my accountant and bookkeeper to do my taxes,
but when it comes to actual tax strategy,
entity setting up, all of that,
I actually use a company called Prime Corporate Services.
So if you go to primecorporateservices.com
forward slash T-S-O-F,
primecorporateservices.com forward slash T-S-O-F, which stands for the science of flipping,
they will know you heard my podcast. I'll say it one more time for you guys.
Prime Corporate Services dot com forward slash T-S-O-F. They will know that you heard my podcast
and they will treat you great. In fact, they're going to do a complimentary call with you.
So that is the relationship I have with them. from all the loopholes, or even more importantly, all of the given ways the IRS quite literally
is setting me up to not pay any taxes.
Lastly, the last time I should say,
primecorporateservices.com forward slash TSOF.
Now, because you're coming through me,
they are gonna give you a complimentary strategy call.
In fact, if you do need
any entities set up at all they will actually do it at the cost they're not going to upcharge you
all the cities and counties have their own cost to fill out the paperwork so if you use them which
i highly encourage because i do it so if it's good enough for me it's good enough for you then
they will not upcharge that now Now, what I ultimately call them
for and utilize them is, again, setting up the proper entity structure based around the companies
that I'm using so that I can get the best tax write-offs as possible. Now, one of my students
in my elite coaching program actually asked me a question about how I pay myself and why I don't seem to get as many
tax write-offs as you would think. Now, I do get a lot of tax write-offs, but the way I pay myself
is I have an LLC that funnels to an S corporation, and that S corporation pays me a salary. Now,
I'm going to pay the IRS something in my active wholesaling
business. So why I want to make that very clear is because that's active income. Wholesaling
properties does not give me any tax write-offs at all because quite literally, it is active income.
So if I make a million dollars this year in my LLC, I will basically pay myself in my S-corp.
Every dollar of salary that I am paying myself actually will go to the IRS.
Every dollar in salary will go to the IRS.
Now, you might be thinking just like my student was thinking, well, wait a minute, Justin.
If there's all these ways to strategize how to not have to pay taxes
why are you paying taxes in your wholesaling business well i just told you guys this and again
this is why i would tell you make sure you take a prime up on their complimentary calls totally
complimentary because you're coming through me because they will explain to you the different verticals and where you can
actually get tax savings and tax write-offs. So when you wholesale a million dollars worth of home,
there's no asset to depreciate. Well, there's not really any write-offs. Now, one thing that can be
a write-off is obviously your car. Now, depending upon how far you want to stretch it, you can say
you use your car for 100% work use.
For some people, that's accurate.
You buy a couple cars.
You take, let's just say, the Honda Prius.
That's the one you're driving around town in.
100% of that car payment is going towards work, right?
Because you're viewing properties.
You're driving around, meeting with sellers.
The only time you're driving that car is work.
You also have expenses. But the reality is you don't have the big tax write-offs that really,
really save you huge in your income, especially when you're making the level of income we make.
Again, if I have a million dollars of income generated or revenue, I should say,
and as long as I keep my expenses low and I stay at anywhere from
a 30 to 40% margin there, then I'm going to get taxed on that income because there's just not
enough tax write-offs to justify $300,000, $400,000 of income that quite literally is going to
be charged me, right? I mean, my car is great and I can write that off,
but there's just not enough, right? Tax write-offs, meals, there won't be enough unless you are just spending money outlandishly, which again, you might not want to do that because
even though the IRS quite literally is backlogged with audits, you just don't want your card to be
pulled, right? Now, do I get a ton of tax write-offs
from my rental portfolio? Absolutely. Again, I use primecorporateservices.com forward slash TSOF
to set up my entities. So for example, I have my wholesaling entity. Let's just call it A.
And then I have, right now I have 14 rentals. I want to acquire a lot more here. But right now,
the 14 rentals are under one other LLC, and I'm actually breaking that out. So I don't have all
14 under one. I'm actually going to break it out, and I'm going to have three or two others. So
three total holding all of my holds. So I called Prime. They set me up with more LLCs, which based around how I want my taxes
to flow, they gave me the proper tax strategy. I can tell you this. In a company or in a business
that has assets such as rentals, you for sure should not be paying much, if any, taxes at all.
You have the depreciation. you have the interest, you have
insurance, you have all these categories that really are great write-offs for the income you're
making. And again, if you are paying taxes, I would really tell you that you need to be talking to
Prime about your tax strategy. Are you doing it correctly based around your goal? Now, let me
revert back here. For those
of you that are wholesalers, that are flippers, that are making a ton of active income, there are
ways, there really are ways that you can create a business that makes a ton of revenue, seven figures
or more, and have tax write-offs that are pretty, pretty darn substantial. As I've mentioned,
sometimes that means you need to spend
a ton of money to get there.
Why I caution people about trying to be
overly tax write-off centric
in the wholesaling and flipping business
is because you might make a lot of money,
but you may not make quite enough
to get to the next level,
which would be something like buying a plane,
which could be a tax write-off.
Again, that's a huge, huge expense. And a lot of you are at that level. I mean, I would say the
vast majority, like 99.9% of the people in the flipping and wholesaling business aren't there.
So again, the easiest thing to do, because I am not an accountant. So this is not, you know, full blown financial tax advice. I'm
not licensed. I am telling you how I've structured it and how this company prime corporate services
dot com forward slash TSOF has helped me. Right. And you need that. Even if you're just getting
started, you at least need to get your entities structured. Right? You at least need some LLC, maybe an S-corp. You need
something even if you are just getting started. But with all that said, it's really important for
you to keep more of the money you're making. And that comes down to how you're doing it. How are
you structuring it, right? Where are you finding the tax write-offs? And this is important because
you don't start your own business to go make $100,000
so you can get taxed in the same way an employee gets taxed making $100,000. People aren't putting
enough emphasis on this ability to keep more of the money you make. And it's because they don't
know the resource that people like myself, the people that are making a lot of money are actually
using such as, again, Prime. I'm not trying to beat you up in the head with this, but the reality is they've
helped me so greatly set up entities, create my tax structure and give me a strategy to save,
if not completely stop paying taxes in certain entities, in certain structures. There are a lot
of ways that you can get tax write-offs, as long as you are structured correctly.
I'll give you one quick example in my wholesaling and flipping business.
The reason why I have an LLC that flows to an S-corp is really the LLC is the flow through.
All the money goes in, and that flows into the S-corp. Now, how I pay myself, which is salary
and distribution, is really going to predicate how much money I make. So I save roughly, save
roughly 8% of self-employment tax structuring that way. So let's just use the argument that
I would have been taxed 40% because of my structuring of my entities, because of how I've
laid that out, I now am actually going to get taxed 32%. That's a big savings when you're
talking about hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars of income. I will love
saving 8% on that level of income. So I really urge you guys to understand tax strategy,
to understand how you want to set up your entity and entity structuring for the purpose of tax
write-offs, for the purpose of keeping more of the money you make. So I'll say it one more time, primecorporateservices.com forward slash T-S-O-F. That will give you the
complimentary call that you can just talk about what you're trying to do. Maybe you're trying to
just buy rentals. Maybe you're trying to buy short-term rentals, which is really a different
type of business, right? And so you need to understand what you're doing. You need to
understand where the values are. You need to understand where the values
are. You need to be structured the right way and ultimately keep more of the money you have.
Hopefully this helps. Obviously, I just gave you the resource over and over and over again
about who I'm using to create entity structure, tax planning. They help me with everything from
estate planning to building business credit. I mean, they literally help me with everything.
And so that is my resource,
primecorporateservices.com forward slash TSOF.
That way they know you came through this podcast,
this video.
And if you're not watching this on YouTube,
go over to youtube.com forward slash Justin Colby.
Make sure you subscribe as I'm dropping heat over there.
Otherwise, I will see you guys, talk to you guys on the next episode.
Peace.